[SPEAKER_04]: Hello everyone and welcome to Delta Flyers Journey through the wormhole with cork dacks and their good friends, Tom and Harry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Join us as we make our way through episodes of Deep Space Nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your host for today are my fellow track actors, Terry Ferrell, Robert Duncan McNeil, and myself Garrett Wong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good morning everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good morning, good evening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good night.
[UNKNOWN]: Good night.
[SPEAKER_01]: whatever time of day it is, wherever you're listening, I hope you don't have snow like me like drawing the long driveway.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do when you're plowing?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you use when you're plowing your drawing?
[SPEAKER_01]: I use a cub cadet.
[SPEAKER_01]: A cub cadet?
[SPEAKER_01]: Snowplowing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it like a tractor?
[SPEAKER_04]: Snowplowing?
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't drive it, you push it, but it does have a motor.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the grips, you grip one side and it helps drive.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you navigate the steepness of the driveway of your drive?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a little motor on the wheel, so it helps.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an assist, it doesn't drive the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, assist pulling it up the hill, but there's so many knobs and levers to use because you've got to pull in the wheel locks on both handles.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to push down the motor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Blower yes, and then as you are going up the hill you to steer it you pull the different sides It's a lot going on and you've got the wheelie to turn your snow plow thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh It's intimidating at first, but once you get the hang of it, you're like, oh thank goodness Because we had a really steep hill Yeah, well, that's what I'm afraid of Robbie what what's stopping you and the machine from sliding down your drive There's a motor there's a motor propelling it up
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like your car if you have it in drive, it's not going to roll back on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what about going, once you go to the left, it'll stop, it won't just stop when you it can let go of the handle.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll stay still.
[SPEAKER_04]: It has like a safety thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you've operated that as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Terrifier back in the evening.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it was, I don't know if it was the same thing because this was when I lived in Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this was a while ago, but we
[SPEAKER_04]: We get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way to get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're so.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not getting, you know, sponsored by the workout, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it is a workout.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it still is, and it's better than shoveling for your back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So much better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Terry, you were a pilot on DS9.
[SPEAKER_01]: You piloted a lot of shuttles and, and, so I'm experienced.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're experienced like me, we're pilots.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are, and also my dad taught me to drive in a left-handed MGB.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of cool actually.
[SPEAKER_04]: It really worked out for quantum league because they had an mgb that was on the left side and I was like Wow, I drive it for real and they said, do you know how to drive it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know how to drive a man?
[SPEAKER_04]: You I mean, yes, I'm manual and I'm like, yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do that's how my dad taught me how else would you learn how to drive a car?
[SPEAKER_04]: You learn a car by driving it man.
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll eat my first car.
[SPEAKER_04]: My dots and 300 ZX
[SPEAKER_02]: Dots and my mom had a Dots and she loved her Dots and I loved my Dots and it was Dots and in the beginning the old old days then it changed in Nissan 300 ZX.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this was the sports car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had the Toyota Supra which was the oh yeah, I'm petrater to the 300 ZX.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you had a really cool BMW though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you were in my you've been that you gave me a ride around the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I drove you around the
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had a m3.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was a specialty version.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was sort of a racing version of the three series that was So now the engine was just it was just it was so throaty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had people when I'm on the side of the road It's just starting on the with the the light turns green and people immediately turned to hear the you know The engine they're staring at the car and the wheels were separate
[SPEAKER_02]: Robby from I'm getting motorcycle like nerdy like you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, the wheel.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I love car special edition on duty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah special edition.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had people say I stopped like saying excuse me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I buy those off of you and I'm like, Wow, what am I going to replace them with.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll pay 2,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just go find a mouseware.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd so buy and go buy the car.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were expensive.
[SPEAKER_04]: My 300 ZX.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was the 30th anniversary edition and it had a turbo.
[SPEAKER_04]: and I was super excited that I had pearly p7s it was like yeah nice tires to get you guys nerding out yes it was a guy magnet it was it was yeah it was they were all silver because they were super I think they only made like five thousand of them
[SPEAKER_02]: Also was limited edition then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was my paper dolls check the pilot bought my car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when it became Nissan and it was a Nissan 300 ZX that went into mass production.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't limited edition at that point.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny now to look back at that car and see how kind of boxy it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the time it was super modern.
[SPEAKER_04]: Super modern.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and the lights coming on.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should find it and get it by it again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, have one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure I get hit on my way to work in that car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, I was on my way to my first.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was my first fitting for deep space nine and it was making a left on to fountain from
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Fairfax because I lived on Fairfax and yeah, and yeah, and yeah, and yeah, yeah, ran the light smashed right into me.
[SPEAKER_04]: My car was total Bobby, Delacentina came to get me in the Paramount van.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, recognize the guy and he said, that guy's an extra.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to sue you as soon as he saw it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was an extra on DS9.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, not a deep space 9, but he was an extra that Bobby Della Santina wrecked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And when I got served papers, it was it was like on a Saturday morning or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: This guy serves me as a I'm so sorry, Miss Farrell.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, okay, now this guy recognizes me.
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't even done anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, buddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: The show is very exciting, but they're still not as cool as my cup cadets, no plow.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, club cadets.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I handle things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see you operate that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got some birthdays today.
[SPEAKER_01]: What we have a birthday this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is Damian O'Donnell, whose birthday is on April 8th.
[SPEAKER_01]: Happy birthday Damian.
[SPEAKER_04]: Happy birthday Damian.
[SPEAKER_02]: Happy birthday to Damian O'Donnell.
[SPEAKER_01]: A poetry time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I have a lemric for the episode, a simple investigation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: A shapeshifter who only knew how to stand guard found that feelings began hitting him hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: In a Rises embrace love found its place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very risky for a heart battle scarred.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, but I'm a slice of bacon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_04]: Drink up the praise.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're getting too good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you need it, like, lower it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, well, I did feel for Odo in this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's been through so much pain in his life.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like a verse to love.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't want to feel his feelings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, because
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't know what to do with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the bottom line is if that woman was not married spoiler, he would be with her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're supposed to say spoiler first, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have to say spoiler and then say sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just heard it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, Terry, you have a poem?
[SPEAKER_04]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to lower that bar right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, now, no self critique, okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, but this was a tough one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Smooth, beautiful, and a liar to boot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rapt around her finger, not a chance, has our sleuth.
[SPEAKER_04]: Deeply protective, he takes her to his lair.
[SPEAKER_04]: Losing his heart to a spy, be careful, take care.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pain is inevitable when the truth is revealed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Their love was on fire intensely sealed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: How can you say that's very good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is them on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been working on this since last night, and you can imagine the amount of paper in my living room.
[SPEAKER_04]: You start writing and then like, oh, no, not that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on, don't over again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you called Odo's quarters his layer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Worring her in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it was very creative.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was definitely very creative.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I cool time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here is my high coup for a simple investigation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mystery woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Odo falls head over heels.
[SPEAKER_02]: temporary bliss, it is sad for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really is sad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a step towards dealing with his feelings.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what that's what this is supposed to be like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do let's get the logistics down.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's written by Renee Eshavaria.
[SPEAKER_02]: directed by John Cretchmer, who also directed Voyager episodes, and who was also married to my friend from the UCLA Theater Department.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guestars, we have Day Young, as Arissa.
[SPEAKER_02]: John Durbin, as Trady.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nicholas Worth, as Sorm, Randy Mulkey, as Idanean, operative.
[SPEAKER_02]: When they said Idanean on the episode, Megan said, oh my god, that sounds like Jadanean, which is my hybrid of Danny, Janet and Ian.
[SPEAKER_02]: because we have Sabrina and then we have Judeanian.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it sounds like Eidanian, that's very close.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, co-stars, Brent Cotton as Eidanian.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Random Eidanian, I suppose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, trivia.
[SPEAKER_02]: inspired by the 1952, a Richard Flescher film the narrow margin.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the movie, Charles McGraw, plays an officer who is assigned to a scort Marie Windsor to a trial where she is a key witness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Over the film, he falls in love with her, even though he shouldn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the film, it is discovered that Windsor is also a cop and had been acting as a decoy for the real
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's the, you know, the inspiration behind the idea of the story plot line for this episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: She definitely had that 50s vibe.
[SPEAKER_01]: She did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That sort of like film noir sort of, it was very film noir this episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if they told her like, hey, this is based on the 1952 film narrow margin.
[SPEAKER_02]: She went off and watched it and then kind of studied that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Star Trek often does this sort of film noir inspired episodes where there's a mystery and you know, I did want to say about day young who plays Arissa But that she was on a next generation episode called The Masterpiece Society, so she'd already done track.
[SPEAKER_01]: before this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another interesting connection to track is she was a waitress in the movie Space Balls that Tim Russ was also in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also about day young, her older sister is named Lee Taylor Young.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you know that actress, but she was also in Deep Space Nine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she and her sister were both on Deep Space Nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: That might be a record.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, siblings that have been on Voyager, that's for sure, but then it wasn't that crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alrighty.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, we start off in some guest quarters on these based nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: We see an idea in an idea in Alien, who is wearing some type of hood thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was almost medieval looking like I look like a monk.
[SPEAKER_02]: A monk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he looked cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it looked pretty sleek.
[SPEAKER_02]: It almost looked like, you know, I've been watching the Olympics and it almost looked like it could be something for the Olympics for
[SPEAKER_02]: like a sports jacket warm-up jacket yeah something like that you know right for the you know the the the Bolivia team say warm-up jacket anyway so he's looking through some stuff he literally seems a little nervous though the doorbell rings and he opens the door opens and these two guys just sort of just
[SPEAKER_02]: muscle their way in.
[SPEAKER_02]: In hindsight, after seeing this episode, I started thinking, if you're a spy, or like a CIA kind of person, don't you have any hand-to-hand combat skills?
[SPEAKER_02]: It just seemed like he was just not doing anything, but they push him around.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's knocked to the ground, and they're asking him if he has what they need.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not even sure if this is the right person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do we have the wrong person?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, where's this crystal?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're asking, they're looking for
[SPEAKER_02]: a specific item.
[SPEAKER_02]: As the he's on the ground, the Adanian then pulls out a phaser about to shoot them, but one of the two members of the former sorm, is it sorm that does it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sorm is the one that ends up shooting him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was weird because when he says, oh, I thought it was on stun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a way he said it was like evil, you know, mastermind guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then later he's the dummy guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like, it was he was like insistent, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like they they made these guys comedic.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that was a big mistake because they are the threat in the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't threatening.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they were buffoons, it was ridiculous, they would have been scary.
[SPEAKER_04]: And also seven bad guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted them to be so, the whole comedic edge, you could see the influence, the comedic influence, especially from the, the get-go in the casting.
[SPEAKER_02]: They casted a very laurel-hardy, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: The laurel-hardy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the heavier rounder, if it was literally laurel-hardy.
[SPEAKER_02]: right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And they were scary.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, they were really off-putting looking.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, it was inconsistent for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: He started off sounding like he was the boss.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then later, you find out he's more the off guy that's, you know, the gentle giant doesn't know what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You said that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're absolutely right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that off right off the bat kind of pulled me out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what's happening here?
[SPEAKER_01]: They say at the end of the scene, they're going to wait for this woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That he was going to meet.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to wait as
[SPEAKER_01]: in these quarters.
[SPEAKER_04]: So then we go up to quarks and also how did they know he didn't have the item on him.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you vaporize the item?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because he had that thing in his arm in his sleeve, I mean, yeah, he wasn't they weren't thinking.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that was the item.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were looking for because he was the one that he pulled out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know was it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, he pulled it out, but it happened so fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: This episode is starting off with a lot of holes in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I think is a, you know, is a foreshadow where you're going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's, it's not a good shadow.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: A good shadow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we've got a quarks next in DAX, Bashir, Odono, Brian, or talking about this holoprogram has, that's finally arrived.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's based on Bashir's secret agent series, which, by the way, I read that,
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they were threatened with a lawsuit by United artists.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the blood.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why they talk about this secret agent series, but they don't really write a lot for it because United artists or whoever had said, we're going to sue you for stealing over the 007.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, the chase went wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the other thing I remember thinking my membership or membership.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I remember thinking dang it Yeah, we get to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't get to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was so excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah You think that was part of the their fear they thought okay if we show the action They're definitely gonna sue us if we talk about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not gonna say anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can't do anything about somebody talking about
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everybody wants to try this game, Odo arrives.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, you know, to do want to see me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Bashir tells him about the game once in the play, but Odo's not really into it, and Odo backs out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Odo was in a weird mood, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was, yeah, it was kind of, it threw me.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other bizarre behavior you're about to say it is, is they, you know, when Odo leaves, it's O'Brien who says, oh, I'll jump into the role of, and after he sees the photo,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of the one, which I thought that made me laugh.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so loud.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you're a married man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And all of a sudden, he's like, hubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbubbub
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, we've strange.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Oda when he sees the woman, he doesn't want to deal with romance.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why he doesn't want to play the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Miles is a dog and he definitely wants to play that part.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we go over to the bar and we meet Arissa who's this attractive woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's waiting for someone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Quark is trying to sell her something or he's coming on very hard in this scene with the drink and
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be because he like stirs it and put his finger in his, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it had to be well, it's funny, because that's Quirk trying to flirt and give his best zoom under low stare at.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he And then the whole finger thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to be seductive.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, Oh, my.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, but I don't know if he's trying to seduce her as much as just to get her to buy something.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to sell her the hollest we trying to make profit there.
[SPEAKER_01]: A rising in tapestry is just pressing too hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Odo comes over and tries to intervene for a second and then she tells quirk that he should probably keep an eye on his business and she points out this cheater.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see the POV of somebody cheating on Dabo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then I love that work runs off to just, you know, not lose more money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was super cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there was a guy in the upper level, like the mezzanine level, and Arissa says he's got a gravitonometer, which is affecting the double table.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's helping his friend out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, they made that guy in Alien and a matching Alien at the double table.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is, we cut to that shot of him being paid all these bars of Latin them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought, wow, there's cheating going on in the future, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so Quark runs off and then she accuses Odo of flirting, basically assumes that he's going to flirt with her because he's got bedroom eyes.
[SPEAKER_01]: She says.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And once she says that, Odo gets very nervous and comfortable.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he, uh, nearly walks into the wall and leaves.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we see the assassins as he's leaving.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see the assassins.
[SPEAKER_01]: sitting in the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: This whole initial interchange between Odo and Arissa.
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt there was a lot of opportunity for the director to sort of fine-tune this performance and it was just all over the place.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what is happening here?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a bit confusing to be perfectly honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she was assuming a lot of things, but it's a classic sort of film noir, femme fatale.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she's playing the seductress.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's leaning into the
[SPEAKER_01]: seduction and sexuality very quickly and it's just it feels like tropes to me right away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but that very first I just I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Odo says, are you waiting for someone or Rissa says, then she answers you.
[SPEAKER_02]: She has this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she goes, where have you been on my life?
[SPEAKER_02]: I got no, it was supposed to be, are you waiting for someone, she was supposed to say, you, where have you been on my life?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was supposed to be one thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's, it's got separated into two by the actress, which should have been caught by Krechmer, which he didn't catch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not interested in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm being very specific, but interesting note.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yes, it makes a big difference.
[SPEAKER_04]: Totally, it was off because that she was serious.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like,
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a little bizarre, yeah, way too forward and it seemed like a lie right away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so she was more playful with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would have changed it, you know, for the better.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because if she said bedroomize even playfully, then later when she references it, then it would seem to make more sense that she said, no, except for when I said that you had
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because this just was.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I was in auto shoes and and she spoke to me like that, I would think she's a creepy scary woman like something Yes, he has some weird agenda.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would I be attracted to that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so yeah, and you're and you're you're playing me.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's Yes, you're a lady.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, so yeah, I'm going to make fun of you later.
[SPEAKER_04]: All my friends are going to laugh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it felt.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: What would you keep talking to the mean girl?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, well, maybe that did you not say it in daily?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, Robbie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was just going to say, maybe that sort of turn for the character.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Cretimer was going for the mean girl thing at first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she sort of falls for Odo in, you know, authentically as the, as the thing goes on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he started.
[SPEAKER_01]: One way is playing him, but then she realizes, no, he's a really nice guy and stops.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's what they were going for.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It felt like it was the same note all the way through.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you could play him, but be playful about the play.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome colors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we go to cargo bay next and I was confused at the top of the scene because photos looking at boxes and then the boxes keep getting pulled away and I was Yes, why is he is he hiding from someone?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but he was looking at inventory.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did too looking for some, you know, anomaly in the
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you have started a tight on the reflection than Robby and then pull back with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just didn't get the reflection.
[SPEAKER_04]: But in a real mirror or in a real reflection.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, here's a strange crazy idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: As a changeling couldn't he make a mirror out of his hand?
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he could.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did like the boxes that got rolled away.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a funny running bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here comes in, ask what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it is odd.
[SPEAKER_01]: He reluctantly sort of tells her, you know, do I have bed room eyes and care of response?
[SPEAKER_01]: The woman is very perceptive.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she's kind of flirting back a little here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you feel that?
[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think through out.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's noticing that he... She doesn't go in with the laughs like everybody else.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just thought she was BFF, you know, giving advice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't feel like she was trying to flirt with Odo, like, or she was jealous.
[SPEAKER_04]: I felt like a little bit like... You're wise.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when she says, you know, you should go see her again.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little reluctant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I'm gonna say this, but I don't really want this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was, I think that the performance was nuanced.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: She tells her to see the woman again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have finished the scene looking at his reflection again And we cut to this security office where Erissa is waiting for Odo.
[SPEAKER_01]: She has a data port internet.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're seeing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've never seen this before in Star Trek.
[SPEAKER_02]: What the heck?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how do you get how do anybody can get that?
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: And just
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It should be black market kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and it should be covered up like why are you keeping it open like that to the air and yeah, everyone can see it was covered by your hair, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she says she says she grew up on Fini a prime and she learned not to trust policemen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was so confused by these aliens like what kind of alien is she?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a human.
[SPEAKER_01]: She looks human.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's talking about Phenia Prime, so I did a little research.
[SPEAKER_01]: Phenia Prime, I think, most of these aliens are only referenced in this episode that I was- Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Phenia Prime is like a rough planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got some technology, but it's run by gangsters.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where our two henchmen come from Phenia Prime, they're Phenians.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Athenians are another planet that we only hear about in this episode, but they're basically super smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: they get information, but they're very secretive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're all spies basically.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what she is, but we don't know that about her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know that about.
[SPEAKER_01]: She looks human.
[SPEAKER_01]: She looks like she's a woman.
[SPEAKER_04]: She really does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which confused me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's definitely confusing, but after seeing everything, so does this sound correct?
[SPEAKER_02]: As an idagian,
[SPEAKER_02]: She went undercover in the Orion or Syndicate, the Orion Mafia, which is absolutely insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: She gathered all this information after years of serving with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: All her memories were placed into a crystal.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was then programmed to think she was a completely different human being.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then spoiler.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, different rings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what that's why I started looking up these aliens because I'm like, I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was too much to introduce.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't fit either one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was never clear to me why she looked like the Phenians.
[SPEAKER_01]: She should look like a Phenian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And with those dots, but then or whatever those nose holes.
[SPEAKER_04]: It showed Phenians as those guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: The henchmen are Phenians.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she's, but she's not Phenians.
[SPEAKER_01]: She went, oh, so she got to be a lot of questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're saying that's why it's confusing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because she said she grew up on Phenia.
[SPEAKER_04]: But she doesn't look like a Phenian.
[SPEAKER_01]: We grew up on Phenia if she's a human with the data port.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we do learn in the scene that
[SPEAKER_01]: was well known for finding people and that's why she was meeting him because he was going to help her locate her daughter that she gave up when her daughter was born 15 years ago and that's what this is all about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't buy it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what she says.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Odo does buy it in this scene which is surprising to me because he's usually much smarter
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but when someone says bedroom eyes, he, she put a spell on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, did she put a spell on him?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't even see what's up around now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Ota takes her to go find this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's his name?
[SPEAKER_01]: Tauva, the guy that got killed.
[SPEAKER_01]: They go to his door.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody answers, but Ota says I could see he should be there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He never left.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went in the room, but never left.
[SPEAKER_01]: They go inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: They look around and auto finds the vaporized remains on the floor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he sees that they try to cover it With that chair moved over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he sees the indentation on the carpet.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh, huh It's not he's a gum shoe.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna figure out this crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he should figure out that she's a liar
[SPEAKER_04]: honest to Pete.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't believe for a second.
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't find that.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a lot on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, love is blind.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't even see was true love.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, yes, we've all been there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've all been there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been there.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've been there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been there.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've been there.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've been there
[SPEAKER_01]: called the world is very relatable episode for most people if we're almost everybody all right so he's just lost his brain yeah or whatever change links have friends or whatever they have he's lost his fluid he's lost it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we got a security office.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yes, Odo has figured out that the residue is a danyan.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably tovid and Arissa is at a dead end with her daughter now.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to have to start over.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's getting more Odo's sympathy here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Odo does say in the scene, he won't press charges for breaking into his computer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's got her data for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She broke in the computer.
[SPEAKER_01]: She did all kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't get info though.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the why he says he's not going to press charges.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yes, still still.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have a good luck if you're trying to break into somebody's house when you still get in trouble.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bedroom eyes.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's something called a Tempest Murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: A Tempest.
[SPEAKER_01]: looking to see if he left something, I guess, check something in a locker or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very sneaky.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking, was that information that she picked up in his office?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because that's what how it felt to me, like because she just left him, then suddenly she's in the computer looking at stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the corridor right outside his office that she's doing this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very bold.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's playing him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we go to the promenade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cork is closing up the bar when there's a knock from the inside of the park.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's corn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Morn comes out of the bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cork says, Morn, we're closed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go.
[SPEAKER_01]: As Morn stumbles home, we reveals a risa coming out of somewhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Odo has been following her.
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows that she's up to something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, he's acting like the real Odo we know and he says in the scene, we may have to strip search you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's out of character Seriously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but she holds out a chip that she found.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but her response was like that might be fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: So to the strip search
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but in the interest of saving time here's what I guess what I got and she's got the data crystal Yeah, we go to commercially come back and we're in the security office.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it says the crystal is going to be very hard to decode He also finally says he knows that she's been lying to him
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God he said that and that's an example to me of like if somebody does something out of character I'll buy it when they acknowledge like I hate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have yes, you know So here he finally acknowledges I I'm not stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you've been lying to me Which helped me a lot
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she admits that she has been working for this guy, dream, a finian.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you find it kind of like her tone doesn't change at all?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So when I was watching the first time I felt like she's still lying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: because there was no, I needed to, I think I needed to see her feel like some resolve or more relaxed or some turn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or more sincere or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Instead of the same tone still felt like she was lying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: And no, I don't think it's in says what race he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was looking all around.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think he's with the Orion syndicate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he could be anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I assume he's finnians.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: All criminals and great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nareduells as Armin might say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There do wells.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Plus, if he's part of that kind of syndicate, he's probably been in it all his life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't just pop in from another planet and create that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a family business.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: My name is Dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: I sound like a sick dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she talks about working for Dream in the Orion Syndicate, and she says she wants
[SPEAKER_01]: and tell if it was going to help her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Odo decides to put her in protective custody custody until they see what's on this chip.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what he's going to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is also the same scene at the very end where she's not sure why he's helping her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you helping me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this how do you kindness of your heart?
[SPEAKER_02]: And Odo's like, I don't have a heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: She could have fooled me.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's now this rom-com.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's totally, this happens that jumps all over the place.
[SPEAKER_04]: It does all over the place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it does.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's part of me that I liked it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The inconsistencies?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's understood.
[SPEAKER_04]: And him almost walking into a wall was weird.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, no, he's more composed.
[SPEAKER_04]: He could still be affected.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's 17.
[SPEAKER_04]: He almost walks into a wall and might be a fun conversation to have.
[SPEAKER_04]: But to watch it, it just felt like I don't believe him either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure a lot of people just loved seeing him actually have some
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes, he did, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that yeah, I think that Renee would curb in this cargo bay is next.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trady brings in some takeaway food in a plastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like something you get from door dash.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, what was just a wrap?
[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't it just look like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: It was in a plastic that he takes the plastic to go off.
[SPEAKER_04]: It looked like what they have wraps, have wraps and then the wraps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's
[SPEAKER_02]: Dordash version is in a rap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they can just remotely order from where they're at in the cargo bay I guess so.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he went together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he came from.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was something more bizarre looking.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the Dordash person at the airlock clear.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's checked on the on the app.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's at the door.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he came in with a guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's a silly short scene where basically they're talking about, you know, we'll wait for her get the crystal and then we'll kill her.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it just was goofy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: To go containers, they look like idiots and there was no threat, which to me this is one of the biggest
[SPEAKER_01]: downsides of this episode is they should have been a threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can have all the romance.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have bought into Odo not being as smart as he normally is, but there was never any jeopardy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never felt seriously like any one was in jeopardy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was no.
[SPEAKER_04]: It should have felt like they were assassins.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is what they did all the time and they're cool as steel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they should have looked less like assassins in terms of their garb of what they were wearing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They should have been kind of closing his monks or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they look like some pounds.
[SPEAKER_04]: How would you not notice them with that crazy hair?
[SPEAKER_01]: And their goofy idiotic responses to everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're in New Alien.
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't seen before.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody in the promenade would notice that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: They stand out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We go to the guest quarters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otis walking her into protective custody, but he says, don't get too used to this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not staying here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he beams them into his quarters.
[SPEAKER_01]: His land.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thinking is that if anyone's trying to track her, they'll think she's in her quarters.
[SPEAKER_01]: but he's really beam to his room so they won't know where she's at.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Clever.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says that she can use his bed because he doesn't need it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll be safe here.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can just regenerate in the bucket.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep an eye out.
[SPEAKER_01]: to protect her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she tells her story, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a long story about how she was a neck girl and she told herself she wasn't selling her body since there was no actual contact.
[SPEAKER_04]: She said something about them being in my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she says, I let them into my mind for money and Drain was one of those people.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how she met Drain and then he paid me more than I'd ever seen before.
[SPEAKER_01]: She says, and I was removed from the consequences of what I was doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's easy to pretend I wasn't hurting anyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Classic film noir from Fatal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Constable didn't feel like they were connected.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was something about the way she was telling story and not making eye contact.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then when she did make eye contact, it was super serious.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I kind of mean that all the way through it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just disconnected to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, by the hook line and sinker, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I will protect you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will be your knight in shining armor.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So how do we know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: He does say in this that he he's seeing a bit of himself in her situation because he says I never have occurred myself to walk away from the Kardashians.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like that little detail that oh he's he's seeing a victim of some aliens that took advantage of him the way that these aliens or this Orion syndicate took advantage of her.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he can understand how she got caught up and did things that were not only illegal but heard other people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he does call her beautiful at the end of the scene too, but then he apologizes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were going to kiss at the end of the scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was a moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, especially when I, when what they see is so beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I merely meant she's like, no, don't apologize.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, felt right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Odo basically just,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he, Kai Bosch himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go see if they made any progress into coding the crystal by.
[SPEAKER_02]: He pulls around.
[SPEAKER_02]: He pulls a rock.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was affected by rum from the prior episode, the same kind of nervous energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't pull the trigger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he gets over that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: We go into the Holla Suite Bashir's program.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's seducing a woman in the limo.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the beginning of this and he's taking off her her parachute in the limo.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a gown on and he says extraordinary.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just jumped out of an airplane at 20,000 feet and you have there's not a hair on your head out of place.
[SPEAKER_01]: I laughed out loud.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
[SPEAKER_04]: And to me, what was funny is, then, Odo pops his head in and the first still moving, but Odo isn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this where a brand goes like he's in character and he's oh hi, Odo like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just he breaks care.
[SPEAKER_02]: Does he say that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the limo's moving.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the characters can just pop in.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Odo hops in.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says can I talk to the Odo says can I talk to you for a minute to be sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: She hops out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Odo hops in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought they were going to get out and let her stay in the limo.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just like, oh my god, how rude to do to her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she.
[SPEAKER_02]: just get out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's raining, get out, get out of the limites.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a hollow character, so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so stand on the side of the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He asks, how does Julian know when a woman is interested is what out of one's to know, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Julian knows immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about he goes, is this about dead demise?
[SPEAKER_01]: And Odo's embarrassed, but you know, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Julian says everybody knows.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Julian tells Odo that you can't be afraid of having your heartbroken that missing a chance for love is much worse than the pain of heartbreak, which is kind of a true idea and relatable idea and great, great advice.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm glad they put that in and gave Bashir a moment to be a little deeper than we normally see him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And especially helping Odo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where Miles pops in with a gun in the iPad.
[SPEAKER_01]: As Falcon or Falcon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Bashir is going, it doesn't count.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was talking to Odo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he's like a little kid right there when he says in the pretend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this is where I was going to talk about the James Bond being sued, but it's MGM.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not UA, but MGM.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll did the flip back and forth though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe UA was subsidiary of MGM.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're all together.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then they've been bought out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good point.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, this is all they could do was be in a limo and not really do much James Bond.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to Odo's quarters next.
[SPEAKER_01]: Arissa is up.
[SPEAKER_01]: She can't sleep because she wants to know what's in the crystal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very seductive scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: They talk about his detective book.
[SPEAKER_01]: that he's reading.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, but tonight he doesn't really feel like reading.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they could talk.
[SPEAKER_01]: And all of these, this is a very slow scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: All these lines, lots of subtexts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they kiss, they end up kissing at the end of the scene.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which I couldn't help but think about is make up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw his nose.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought they did a good little job around his neck, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the rubber move on his face a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, that's not maddening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I ask this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you say the better-mise thing again?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or did we miss that scene?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I wanted to say something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we missed that.
[SPEAKER_04]: We did.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, in that, okay, I just want to say this because there's a tell that people do when they're lying, you know, and when she said that, but I, but I meant it about you having.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she went, better am I, but she didn't say better-mise to him and she had that little flutter like people do in their line, you know what I mean, but that's the actors playing the scene.
[SPEAKER_04]: These are those moments that just drive me insane when I'm watching something when I don't know was that the actor's choice was it just not a great choice for that scene was it something that director just didn't see or was it intentional because when I saw that that was a tell that people do when they lie and I went she's still lying.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because that's what it telegraphed to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I read some trivia to both of you here?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I read.
[SPEAKER_02]: Renee had to shave his entire upper body for this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that was weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even in shirts, I was like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't look like his body.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, not that I've seen him naked.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just nobody has chest hair.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see that and it's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, it's all gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, the writer said originally planned for Odo to have a sexual relationship with Shalan Aroya early in the fifth season while he was still a humanoid.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they felt that she wasn't right for him when she was introduced in broken link, the episode broken link.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they altered their plans by the time they got around to doing an auto-relationship story, however, he had regained his shape-shifting abilities.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was something that displeased Ronald DeMore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Quote, I wish we'd done the show while auto was still human.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if he had been human, the relationship with this woman would have carried a little more weight and I agree I do Yeah, I do I was thinking thank god he read all those books.
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember when Cara picked up the yes, yes, you're creating the love slave book
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Romance novel.
[SPEAKER_02]: René Ishavaria's original tell play.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a scene where Erissa comes out of Otto's bedroom and finds Otto regenerating.
[SPEAKER_02]: She walks over to him and touches him, or the liquid, and he morphs onto her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ishavaria was especially proud of the scene, but I refelt it was the medically more important for this particular episode that Otto make love as a humanoid.
[SPEAKER_02]: This may have been
[SPEAKER_02]: where that scene was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the afterglow scene, Otto does share that she is the first woman he's ever been close with the first human.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does admit that once on his planet, he had a similar experience that you might call sexual.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she shares in this scene that she's worried she's going to always have to look over her shoulder.
[SPEAKER_01]: She'll never be free of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of the Orion Syndicate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they decide you know what let's let's not talk about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be in the here and now with each other They start to make love again.
[SPEAKER_01]: You see his hands sort of change into shimmering.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because it's kind of important.
[SPEAKER_04]: She he says it was that whole experience he had And he talks she asked him about what that was and it it was with another
[SPEAKER_04]: to bad I'm not a changeling.
[SPEAKER_04]: He says, we shouldn't let that stop us.
[SPEAKER_04]: When I loved, was the pure ecstasy when he, when he morphs into her hand, yeah, she just, it's almost like she has, she had an orgasm, it seems.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she had an orgasm without other than his hand being, and it was, yeah, I really believe that moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I want to be with the changeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who wouldn't?
[SPEAKER_02]: Who wouldn't want to be with you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I'll take a side of that, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all we have to do is hold hands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all we got to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: They can keep my clothes on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just realized why he had to shave because he can't do the details.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I also think I was thinking about this when we were watching this episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's too bad that he didn't just get better and better at it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So eventually Renee O'Burgeonwall wouldn't have to have the stuff on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, you're so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because this video of season would have been more powerful, I think, an easier take in if he could still be a changeling, but look like Renee.
[SPEAKER_02]: But show the gradual process from the season where he gets less and less rubbery looking and more human looking, until finally season 6 and 7, it's just Renee with slick back hair.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: With the regular face.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, that's a great idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe his hair isn't slick back because that's also part of I can't do detail.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and so he's more of a better at detail agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've been a really cool arc.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what when he turns into a Falcon?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, details.
[SPEAKER_04]: He should be practicing with more than that jungle gym thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: you should be practicing with like turning into the falcon maybe he has got different things anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good with me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good point.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we go to ops next for a great DAX and hear a gossiping scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dax is sure something's going on here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's just being a constable.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just trying to protect her.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the tell about Cara not being okay with what's going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you in the dialogue here.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's saying that she's not happy about Odo being with this woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just her attitude about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, no, it's not possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: That he never do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which is weird because she told him to go for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she did the beginning.
[SPEAKER_02]: She did.
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe this scene was shot before the other scene.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why isn't she acting like she's okay with it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because she loves him unconsciously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: But she should be trying to cover.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like she is happy for him, but not happy for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not happy for herself.
[SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Warf doesn't like the gossiping.
[SPEAKER_01]: He thinks Odo can just take care of himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Cisco enters once a know where Odo is, because Odo requested a briefing with Starfleet Intelligence, but he's late, and he's never late.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Dax fills him in a little bit, when Odo arrives, Odo's a bit uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like to look every and I shared with each other, like right, like a mad, good for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, Kerson came out for a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm at a home at a.
[SPEAKER_01]: They go Cisco goes into his office with Odo after that great look with DAX.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we cut to Odo's quarters a little later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Arisa is contacting Drain trying to contact not Drain.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Drain plumbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Drain.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's Drain's identical twin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Drain and Drain with the two.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she gets his identification code or, you know, she's got a data port in her neck.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she's good at all this hacking stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She just sent a message.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_02]: A suffocated transmission.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk to GM Tim.
[SPEAKER_02]: She DMed him.
[SPEAKER_01]: She slid right into Drams.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We go back to our bosos in the cargo bay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You actually wrote bosos on there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You did.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: The bosos.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they kind of did look like clouds.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, well, they've made a deal with the risk to get the crystal and let her go, but...
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, they say, but we're going to kill her.
[SPEAKER_01]: The gun pointing bit, I did not find very intimidating.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember when Sorm or Sorm, whatever?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You had the gun and he put it to a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just makes them look like dofuses.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not a threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to get killed because they don't like they could do anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think they're they're written or directed to the level that the show really should be out.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like doing a different show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, they're in a different show.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a Disney show.
[SPEAKER_02]: This bums me out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like John Cretchmer.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I do this really bums me out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was John as much as the scripting and the casting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was all the things made them a complete non-threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like a Disney channel kid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely not all on John.
[SPEAKER_01]: We go to the security office next and a Danyan agent who we haven't met before enters.
[SPEAKER_01]: To talk to Odo, he wants to assure that Arissa is safe, he's looking for her.
[SPEAKER_01]: He reveals that she is an agent for the Adanyan government sent to infiltrate Drames organization, the Serrine Syndicate gang.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he says in the scene, she doesn't even know it because her real memories are stored in that data crystal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, I'll explain the rest.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just go find her.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's starting to make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I know that we know what's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a pretty cool storyline if you think about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to further get out, they erase all of her memories.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on the crystal and it has to be re, you know, positioned in within her or whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like all of that intention.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't think it played that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't manifest in the way that this is so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they had high aspirations for this episode, but it kind of fell flat on a number of different areas.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say so.
[SPEAKER_01]: We go to the Science Lab next.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see Miles is on the floor, kind of moaning.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a deputy out.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does say that Arissa took the crystal and the Athenian says in the scene,
[SPEAKER_01]: It generates a distinctive signal, so we might be able to track it, but I was wondering, did a riso come in and beat up miles in the deputy and steal the crystal?
[SPEAKER_04]: Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: Seems unnecessary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are they on the floor?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they got beat up?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we had to be her, she's just by herself taking the crystal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did the bozos beat them up?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're waiting for the crystal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: they just needed to have a reason how she got the crystal to see her sneaking in and stealing it is more plausible than that she beat up a Brian and whoever else was with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't buy this at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that she beat them both up.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a data port.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a net girl.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not a assassin.
[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't have this close hand-to-hand combat skills.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we haven't really, they've never
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, but that's what they say happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: She beat him up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Miles says she took the crystal and we go to cargo bay.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is definitely a, you know, meet the bad guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where they're.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they've been saying they're going to kill her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She brings the crystal in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trady says he's alone, but we know sorms hiding behind the.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, holy cow.
[SPEAKER_04]: We find sort on the bad hiding.
[SPEAKER_04]: His head is taller than the cargo.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, she's going to see the top of his head.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the hell?
[SPEAKER_04]: Why not put one more thing on top?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just saying there you can't see me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't see me.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all he's doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't see me.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's even better.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they should have done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Arissa says to Trady as anyone else here, and he goes, no, just me, not true.
[SPEAKER_01]: We cut out to the corridor.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did like this low angle as the drama's unfolding.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Odo and Adainian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Adainian says I've lost the signal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we cut back into the cargo bay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trady shows her that he has no weapons on him and this very dramatic circle around.
[SPEAKER_01]: goofy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look up my sleeves.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, Disney villain.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says your turn and she does the same sort of thing and like wiggles her butt or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he says her wings and her hips.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But she could have had a gum between her legs.
[SPEAKER_01]: it's just was not serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not this is here, there was no threat.
[SPEAKER_02]: She probably goes, she turns around and wiggles her butt.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might as well said she turned around and twerked is what she did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, torquing would have been more interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: But she hands over the crystal, then Sorm pops out, you know, I'm trading says, I don't leave to meet my friend, Sorm pops out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, well, but she stopped for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You said you were alone.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be the start back in a way or running.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got to get out of here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, on top of it, you're alone.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're a woman alone in a cargo bay with a stranger.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're going to just go, who's that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like she's, what, 12, 13?
[SPEAKER_04]: She would have started backing away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just as Sorm starts to power up his weapon to kill her.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a noise.
[SPEAKER_01]: We look around the door shut, but no one's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We look up and Oto has shapeshifted onto the ceiling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did like the drop down from the ceiling.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, whoa, actually the doors were opening.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Each one here goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's open.
[SPEAKER_02]: The sound happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Door one opens.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, what happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Door two opens.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Terry a third door opens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when we see the shot of Odo really cool, waiting on the ceiling to drop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a ninja.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was very cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ninja Odo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or Ninja Odo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ninja Odo.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in Joe does down, there's a fight here, of course, Odo's great at fighting, and he wins, and he saves his love.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have a nice push in on the crystal at the very end.
[SPEAKER_01]: When Erissa says, I'm wishing you this was all about.
[SPEAKER_01]: We push in on the crystal.
[SPEAKER_01]: We cut to the infirmary.
[SPEAKER_01]: We pull out of the crystal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little design transition there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her data port is activated.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now Bashir's got to do the memory transfer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so while the transfer's going on, Adanian explains the operation that the altered her memories put her on Fenaia.
[SPEAKER_01]: She woke up believing she was a different person.
[SPEAKER_01]: She got all the information they wanted and when they were ready to recall her, towed the guy they got.
[SPEAKER_01]: evaporated, make contact.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why she did say, I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I know him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So some of that stuff is starting to make sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: I trusted him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know why.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to backtrack very quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: That fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny because the final bozo was completely incapacitated.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he there's nothing he can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Odo takes an extra shot on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you get notice that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's like, you're going to get one more punch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, what they were about to do to his lover that he just kind of lost it which we don't see ever happening Yeah, oh, going beyond more than what he has to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so known.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so business like and I thought oh, that's very interesting He just exerts what's necessary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and in that case, it was over Impassioned.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, so but she's doing the memory transfer, you know a Daniel does say with what she knows about
[SPEAKER_01]: the Orion Syndicate, they could take them all down.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's very, you know, she's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's got her spy on.
[SPEAKER_04]: My photos upset that she almost died and that they should have been more protective of her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Bashir comes out and says, uh, the transfers complete, he's going to take her to surgery, which I didn't understand why she needs her.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, and we wouldn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, because no one's explained.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's surgery for to put her back to to
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because she is, I didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember she has the same look as the guy with the hoodie.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why it would have been more helpful if they were aliens that we knew that we knew.
[SPEAKER_04]: We weren't working so hard to go, wait a minute, who is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: And who is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess sometimes when there's too many moving parts that may be like super.
[SPEAKER_02]: She should have been bollian, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: That would have been easy.
[SPEAKER_02]: If she was bollian and blue, we know what they look like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, only we didn't see her being right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she was going to be turned into, yeah, I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we go to Odo's quarters after surgery, Oryssa arrives to meet Odo.
[SPEAKER_01]: She has the alien features.
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and the gorgeous purple.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: We see things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The dramatic lighting as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Black men was very film noir and shadows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, lots of shadows.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we get close and her makeup is
[SPEAKER_04]: horrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you could see the lines every lit in her eyebrow not connecting the lace on the eyebrow was not it you could definitely see it you're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and the gentleman had the same kind of the other IDanians had a dark blue that purple on her just looked she looked like a 1950s.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she did.
[SPEAKER_01]: She admits to Odo that she now knows she has a husband.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's very sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Odo says it's not your fault.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just fell in love with a woman who never really existed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very sad.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a risk of response.
[SPEAKER_02]: She says she did exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was real and she'd loved you in a way she still does.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that was the perfect answer because now Odo knows.
[SPEAKER_02]: In another lifetime, this would be his woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: This would be who he would betrothes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And when he says, well, I ever see you again, and she pauses for so long, and you know the answers, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's so sweet that she says, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was so much kinder than saying no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that she'll never forget him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she emphasized that never at the very end.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, I think the writing at this final scene is good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: My theme is it's better to have loved and felt the heartache of losing it than to live with a heart that never loved it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: The so poetic, basically the it's better to have loved and lost than to never loved it all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that!
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is for months.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is changeling hormones and it was a little bit of headgames in the beginning too 100% yeah, which is kind of like mine which is get to know someone before allowing yourself to fall in love my other lesson is Whenever someone rings a doorbell and you're a secret Identian operative, please look through the peephole first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ter Fair you have our Patreon poll winner for theme slash moral slash lesson of this episode
[SPEAKER_04]: I do submitted by Alex Ray, love doesn't have to be fully real to have emotional consequences.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely my pleasure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for having me.
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