[SPEAKER_13]: Hi, I'm Matt Leib, and I'm Vince Mancini, and this is Matt, you're so full for man.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I know.
[SPEAKER_13]: It was just fucked up because I can do a really good job.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I do a really good John Lennon.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, you know, don't do Gido Gido Gido Gido Gido, which I basically, I'm just doing Dana Carvey, but that's okay, right?
[SPEAKER_13]: You gotta start somewhere.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're gonna be talking about from season four of Madman, episode 11.
[SPEAKER_13]: Chinese wall.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's the name of the episode that is in your building a house and everybody don't don't you don't have to.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have to.
[SPEAKER_13]: You don't have to.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's the thing about podcasting.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can but you don't have to.
[SPEAKER_13]: And that's what we should remember and focus on.
[SPEAKER_13]: Let's talk.
[SPEAKER_13]: Tell your friends about this non-problematic podcast.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're talking about Chinese wall.
[SPEAKER_13]: And this week, we have a wonderful guest.
[SPEAKER_13]: A returning champion.
[SPEAKER_13]: He is such a returning champion that he is the producer of this podcast.
[SPEAKER_13]: A comedian and dear to your friend, ladies and gentlemen, everyone else.
[SPEAKER_13]: You know, I'm you love him.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's brand, flavor.
[SPEAKER_13]: Was I?
[SPEAKER_13]: What up dog?
[SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, oh, speaking of I forgot to tell you when you asked me how I wanted to be introduced, I said comedian I forgot to mention dog walker comedian and dog walker.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I get my rover back up off the ground.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, well, I mean, you know, Vince's mom is always game for a walk.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, you know, you got to get a rover at 45 for a half hour walk.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it extra if the dogs are bigger?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: As for Matt's mom.
[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're both doing it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Is that what we're both going to do it?
[SPEAKER_13]: I ran it back.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, I mean, you certainly did.
[SPEAKER_13]: You know, but here's the thing that I say whenever someone makes one of me, I always say, I'm not going to run out of your crying world.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not gonna run out of here crying tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_13]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what I say.
[SPEAKER_13]: I forgot to do the comment thing that we usually do now.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm doing it now.
[SPEAKER_13]: But I found a space for it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Brent, how you doing?
[SPEAKER_13]: How's life?
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, it's, it's, it's never better.
[SPEAKER_04]: Never better?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I got nothing to complain about, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: I can.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm alive.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can ask for.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, the Mariners lost again last night, so that's not great, but in that, you know, to a pretty well.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, good.
[SPEAKER_13]: Other than that, everything's fine.
[SPEAKER_13]: Tax day.
[SPEAKER_13]: We all paid our taxes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mariners.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's your guy that like works on a boat, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: That is, that is my understanding.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's like one of at least two blue color job.
[SPEAKER_05]: Burst on the mirror and a mariner, I think.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then if you expand it, oiler,
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, they don't exist anymore, but there are the steelers.
[SPEAKER_05]: They mean they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't
[SPEAKER_13]: who had the Texans before, you tall?
[SPEAKER_13]: Anyways, we're having a good podcast so far, and I want to ask you, Brent.
[SPEAKER_13]: What's your favorite advertisement?
[SPEAKER_04]: My, well, this will be like my third favorite ad, or yeah, that's right, I think, but I would say, I haven't been thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And one that, one that I think about a lot, even though it hasn't ran in probably 20 years, is the Honda Element ad with the crab.
[SPEAKER_04]: the crab.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember the crab.
[SPEAKER_04]: But remember the Kia with the, I was going to say, remember the Kia hamsters.
[SPEAKER_04]: The hamster.
[SPEAKER_04]: I pinch.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the, that's not him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every time I see a onelman, I think, a Honda element with a crab.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: God.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know if you're right.
[SPEAKER_13]: I just looked it up.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is Honda element with a crab right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you like hanging with the servers here, the beach a lot.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so for people who are just listening to this, which is everybody.
[SPEAKER_13]: There, it is a still frame, you know, it's like 2D.
[SPEAKER_13]: You do see a Honda element, but it's like, it looks like a, like a comic strip almost.
[SPEAKER_13]: Is that the what you remember?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so I think I've got the right one here it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm always down here too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Weekends.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind telling you a few sick days.
[SPEAKER_00]: I paint.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I carry their boards, they change inside me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to paint.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, that's so close.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get pinched.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not paint?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it hurts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe little paint?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've got some melted butter and some tongs in here, so.
[SPEAKER_00]: No paint, no paint, not paint.
[SPEAKER_05]: This really was wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: This really sounds like a Matt Lee frot cast car for every present to the real world.
[SPEAKER_13]: Dude, there was a time two thousand six is when this ad came out.
[SPEAKER_13]: There was a time in America where you could just be a Mexican crab.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can do Latino face.
[SPEAKER_13]: You could do Latino face as a crab and say, probably hank is like, because of being sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's like what the when we do it, we're doing it ironically and with the knowledge of course of the various, you do a land acknowledgement.
[SPEAKER_13]: Cultures that go into creating this accent whereas what they're doing is a crab that says, I mean, because probably a bunch of white dudes in an advertising agency said, you know what Mexican say a lot?
[SPEAKER_13]: They say,
[SPEAKER_13]: They're always saying, you know, a pinch a this and pinch a that.
[SPEAKER_13]: We should make a like a crab called Mr. Peanchae.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then they're like, well, they're like pitching other ideas for Honda.
[SPEAKER_13]: And they're like, all right, what else we got?
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, we got this crab called Peanchae.
[SPEAKER_13]: Do you want it?
[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And want to do the pitch?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: He wants to do the pitch.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Bob, we got one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Finally.
[SPEAKER_05]: We finally sold it.
[SPEAKER_05]: We sold it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Honda.
[SPEAKER_13]: the element yeah I mean still not an accord that is wild I don't know how I missed that ad I think I was in college so at this time I was learning too much wow let's uh let's brag a little more now I was on heroin too don't you know don't you understand what a fucking euphemism is brand do you like do you like madman I sure do I I've said before
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, obviously.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I sincerely am proud to work on this podcast and put it out and tell people that I work on this podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, can you tell that?
[SPEAKER_05]: How do you squeeze that into a conversation?
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you tell someone that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Most of it, like what I'm trying to collect on employment and stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like on my taxes, I'm like, yeah, I work on this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really proud of you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Please don't take any more away.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is how much I made.
[SPEAKER_13]: You're totally, I love just telling your H&R block guy.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm actually really proud of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a parody song every episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's also a synopsis of the episode.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's also doing that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not for anybody, it's crazy, but it's on HBO Max now, so there's like a whole world that's expanding.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't imagine weird owl, but it was a really obscure stuff and no one cares.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, like if weird owl was like Van Gogh operating in secret.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I make clips for the Instagram, and one of them went really bonkers because the bunch of insults found.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that is the craziest thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: You got our Instagram game up in the name.
[SPEAKER_13]: We wanted Intel's fine.
[SPEAKER_13]: It was the one, Mike Isaac episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with Allison the Secretary when she throws the thing at him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, you got to check it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got to see that again.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just came out of the book.
[SPEAKER_05]: I started, yeah, it's not reading the comments on that.
[SPEAKER_13]: The clip is, it's got the most views we've ever gotten.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is like a lot.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, by a lot.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, this is like it's almost like viral viral and it's all in cells Who are just mad at this woman for throwing something at Don Draper and they're like she's such an idiot And then people going like you guys don't understand in the show They were together and whatnot and and then a few people going like I hate when the people talk afterwards
[SPEAKER_05]: Why are they talking over the clip and it's like because it's a podcast you hit it This is not madman clips the account Would honestly maybe be a better route.
[SPEAKER_04]: We might.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I don't need a lot of We could not pivot you guys want to pivot to just running an Instagram account for man pulling all birds
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pulling all the economic wins are blowing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Just be like, we're going to pivot from shoes to AI.
[SPEAKER_13]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_13]: But this is not a TV show about pivoting from shoes to AI.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, this is a TV show about men who are mad.
[SPEAKER_13]: And we, of course, can't start the podcast without first playing.
[SPEAKER_13]: You guessed it.
[SPEAKER_13]: The theme song.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, it's me.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, everyone.
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, everyone.
[SPEAKER_13]: I was once again, we're going to be talking to our film season four of Madman episode 11.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what happens when you don't have producer Brent and your earpiece saying, okay, that's right, okay, not bad to go, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Chinese wall, Vince, can you break us off a little piece of that Chinese?
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: The employees of SCDP scrambled to hold on to the rest of their accounts.
[SPEAKER_05]: When word leaks of lucky strikes affection to BBDO and Roger lies to the rest of the firm about going to Raleigh to try to win back the account.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's right, but more importantly, what was happening at the time that this episode was set in?
[SPEAKER_05]: That's right, Matt.
[SPEAKER_05]: We cannot evaluate a period piece, divorced from its period context.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got to put a little of that context back in.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we like to do that with a little segment we call the news machine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want my ass wall street journal.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no big lie.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no system.
[SPEAKER_01]: The universe is indifferent.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's right, we're going all the way back to October 3rd 2010 when this episode aired which means we're going all the way back to October 3rd 1965, the year that this show was set in.
[SPEAKER_05]: So many things were happening.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you know Pope Paul the sixth was about to visit New York?
[SPEAKER_04]: How was he on crime?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a top on crime pulp or we're not sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's Italian.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Oh, so he's a criminal pope This was actually the first time that a raining pontiff had visited the western hemisphere, which is really kind of crazy The beginning of the Pope Mobile with the you know like sniper proof glass or whatever
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, this, he had traveled more than any more than all of the previous popes combined, I guess, and they're called the Pilgrim Pope.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, who was the Pope who, uh, the Pope before the Nazi Pope?
[SPEAKER_05]: The John Paul II, JP II.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, this isn't JP II.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, this is Pope Paul.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, dude, the popes are always old.
[SPEAKER_05]: There was probably like 12 popes in between there.
[SPEAKER_13]: But it wasn't John Paul for he was for a while because he was he went to go see What the gold birx like singing group and yes sister I think it was this track one it could have been says track two
[SPEAKER_09]: I forget which one, but the Paul is in this, this is like, they are all a sisters or they are all a black women.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is a sister like the way of black people say, how do you say, which kind of sister is this?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, it's sister like my only sister, it's sister like with an A at the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was actually Polish, but, well, still fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so I mean, that's the big story, but you know, do I turn this light above?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why it's a pop submarine, got a screen door.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad it's going to tell you next at the moment.
[SPEAKER_05]: The temple is beautiful.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so full.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's full of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So those are the big stories.
[SPEAKER_05]: Of course, we like a little more of the human interest side of things.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to the Miami-Herald for this fascinating headline.
[SPEAKER_05]: Two dogs witnessed her will.
[SPEAKER_05]: She didn't like legality.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's figure that out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Red line?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the headline.
[SPEAKER_05]: A will.
[SPEAKER_05]: Allegedly written on a pink cocktail napkin and witnessed by two dogs is absolutely illegal.
[SPEAKER_05]: A former shoe salesman from Miami Beach insisted Saturday.
[SPEAKER_05]: A legal or legal.
[SPEAKER_05]: Legal.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely legal.
[SPEAKER_05]: A former shoe salesman.
[SPEAKER_05]: According to a former shoe.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what he's doing now.
[SPEAKER_13]: I assume his new job is lawyer, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: just call him a lawyer he wrote it and he disagrees sharply with the registrar of wills in Philadelphia also they just ask some guy yeah registrar throughout the will friday complete lack of seriousness said john e-walsh noting the two dogs listed as witnesses and quote a vulgarity written upon the document
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, man, I mean, there is part of me that's like, yeah, I mean, if you, it's already asking a lot to accept the will that's witnessed by two dogs, but then just writing like,
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: My shoes salesman get y'all my fucking house.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just ask my dogs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's, it's pretty stupid.
[SPEAKER_13]: I assume, so is the shoes salesman listed in the fucking will?
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to find out, not so said Jack Cohen of 6276 Street, Miami Beach, the author.
[SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't written.
[SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't either written in a pink cocktail napkin.
[SPEAKER_05]: The whale belonged to his sister-in-law, Dora Marske, a Philadelphia.
[SPEAKER_05]: She died last December at age 65.
[SPEAKER_05]: Her estate is valued at about $63,000.
[SPEAKER_05]: She has survived by six brothers in a sister.
[SPEAKER_05]: A royal family squabble has risen since her demise.
[SPEAKER_05]: At a hearing in July, witnesses offered conflicting accounts of drinking at the time the will was made in June 1962.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't drink said Cohen, somebody told the lie.
[SPEAKER_05]: The two dogs did not testify.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is incredible.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mrs. Marsky was an eccentric type explained Cohen.
[SPEAKER_05]: She didn't like legality.
[SPEAKER_05]: She had a dog, Chubby.
[SPEAKER_05]: She was just crazy about him and she wanted him on the will.
[SPEAKER_05]: She signed his name herself.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_13]: What do you think we think?
[SPEAKER_05]: Cohen and a niece of Mrs. Marske, Mrs. Shirley Greenberg, were to share the estate under the will.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mrs. Greenberg's dog, Brandy, was the other dog witness.
[SPEAKER_05]: She signed for that animal too.
[SPEAKER_05]: In all, except for the dog's seven-person signed, the deceased Mr. Mrs. Greenberg, Mr. and Mrs. Cohen, Mr. and Mrs. David Shapiro.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Shapiro's are now contesting the will.
[SPEAKER_05]: It seems that someone wrote a dirty word on the document too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then it was scratched out.
[SPEAKER_13]: What is app to do I feel like I don't know wait so but it also sounds like there's other witnesses outside of the dogs yeah and the people that are contesting it have signed it apparently but yeah I feel like the people contesting it also plan to the story in the paper to make it look like she's a crazy person who you know who wrote titties on an napkin and then uh the
[SPEAKER_13]: But no, it just sounds like she likes her dogs and wanted her dog's signatures on the will.
[SPEAKER_13]: It doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_13]: But it's not what, what, what, and where is the scam?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, they are going to, I mean, $60,000 was a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a fuck ton, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so we got that story.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, I forgot.
[SPEAKER_13]: I wonder if the green bird's in the comments, ever made up.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's the question I have.
[SPEAKER_13]: Do the green bird's in the comments?
[SPEAKER_13]: And the Shapiro's, you know, I wonder if they, hopefully they all, they all made up.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: We are going to appeal said Cohen, they are making a far set of this, that's the end of the story.
[SPEAKER_05]: Another story, this is an interesting one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Another headline that didn't make any sense, but at least I understand what it means now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Headline is Kill Roy unknown in Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_05]: slogan sorry about that uh okay kill Roy so this is about army slang you're not going to get that from the headline unless like yes you were like in world war two which probably a lot of people reading this the first time around uh could remember that uh side gone kill Roy hasn't been to this war yet but nobody in vial is a car too bad isn't kill Roy it's a it was a slang we're
[SPEAKER_05]: Each generation of warriors coins its own slang expressions and catch phrases.
[SPEAKER_05]: Kilroy was here was the watchword of World War II.
[SPEAKER_05]: The strange device was painted on bombed out buildings in Europe, scrawled and sand on the beaches of the South Pacific and written in chalk on bombs and torpedoes, trucks and troop transport.
[SPEAKER_13]: right it's like a guy who's like uh it's a cartoon of a guy holding his nose you see his like his nose is over the line he's like holding it and goes kill Roy was here it's a cartoon yeah yeah and a slug yeah i don't know which came first the slogan of the cartoon but uh yeah i don't know whatever
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry about that seems to be the main slang slogan to come out of the war in Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_05]: Saigon bar girls sing it out in their high musical voices when a patron asks for a date.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sgt.
[SPEAKER_05]: use it to tell private why they can't have a pass or get out of guard duty.
[SPEAKER_05]: Captains say it to kernels and explaining why they couldn't hold a certain perimeter or why the viet Kong got away.
[SPEAKER_05]: Even generals find themselves saying,
[SPEAKER_13]: Sorry about that ended up being the perfect slogan for the Vietnam War, so that is kind of amazing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a mildly sarcastic expression, meaning the transgressor really means I'm not sorry about that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not actually sorry we're gonna win this war and it'll be known famously as a war in which America won.
[SPEAKER_05]: Really isn't all that sorry, but there's a war and what can you do about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Most of the slang is the haphazard product of oriental and screudability.
[SPEAKER_05]: The traditional GI penchant for conquering the language barrier with love and chocolate bars and standard pentagon military jargon.
[SPEAKER_13]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_13]: What are like optimistic and bright way to paint the military?
[SPEAKER_13]: You know how they like to go in and go in.
[SPEAKER_13]: And we have to cross the cultural void through love and chocolate.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, bribing local women to have sex with them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And whatever you call it, thus a very pretty native girl or a very fine Vietnamese officer or a very efficient head waiter is number one.
[SPEAKER_05]: The very worst of anything or anybody in category is automatically number 10.
[SPEAKER_05]: When a number one girl meets a number 10 fellow, it's never kiss met.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, all of that sounds terrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: So sorry about that is sort of the six, seven of Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_04]: 100% 100%.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's their Skibdi toilet.
[SPEAKER_13]: There's Skibdi toilet.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that's fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... finally in case you thought that uh... you know right wing militias were like a new thing uh... this is from the Miami-Herald minute man may retreat into mexico oh shit lost angeles the minute man branded a paramilitary group by the attorney general's office plan to move out of their training uh... sorry plan to move their training activities out of california to avoid legislation
[SPEAKER_05]: Attorney General Thomas the Lynch told the Jewish Federation Council's Community Relations Committee, I don't know why, if that's the scene of this.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's why, yeah, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: That an undercover agent from the State Department of Justice attended minute men field exercises August 28th and 29th near San Diego.
[SPEAKER_05]: He said our agent was told that the minute men planned to move their maneuvers to Mexico or to Arizona or Mexico because of our new anti-paramilitary legislation.
[SPEAKER_05]: They still intend to carry on some activities here, which they believe will not conflict with the law.
[SPEAKER_12]: I, you know, I, I, this, why, why is it that, why was it Jewish agency as well?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think this, I think that the attorney general was like speaking to the Jewish organization and being like, listen, we got a plan to deal with all these right-wing paramilitaries.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's, that's what I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: In there, we chased him out of California, everything's cool now.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is like, uh, yeah, it's like another like 80 L type thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: the because all of these minute man organizations all these like paramilitary right when organizations are also like Nazi essentially.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah this was but this was when they were like anti Zionist as well as anti-Semitic now they're anti right right now they hate the Jews but they love Israel because the West for them to go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lynch said Troy Huffton, California Minute Man Leader, Outline Methods at the meeting for harassing persons he called Communists and Left Wingers.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lynch said exercises included survival training, rifle practice, the use of explosives and electronic snooping devices.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to read the whole article, but everybody thinks Castro has dumped Che Guevara and not on the outs, but it turned out he was really just going to Bolivia and Africa at the moment revolution there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_13]: And eventually get killed by the CIA.
[SPEAKER_13]: in in Bolivia, right?
[SPEAKER_13]: Isn't that where you're done?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, that's a bummer, but that is also context.
[SPEAKER_05]: It did give us one of our best Simpsons joke, where they're eating at a restaurant or at a bistro, and it's called the Shes Sheguevera.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, that is good.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's a good joke.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's good stuff.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: So that makes us all properly contextualized to understand this episode.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's the point of it.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's to understand that.
[SPEAKER_13]: And now we do, we understand.
[SPEAKER_13]: And now we can talk about the show.
[SPEAKER_13]: But first before we do, here's a little bit of the draper D story.
[SPEAKER_13]: Based on the Patula Clark song, downtown Patula.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it is time for pound town.
[SPEAKER_10]: Peggy's alone in the backseat, and then Abe shows up he needs a ride.
[SPEAKER_13]: Downtown Peggy sits on his lepsis, sorry, and Abe left sense as she only weighs.
[SPEAKER_10]: One pound, they're headed in a packed car from the beach and to the city.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, bro Peggy's arm and she don't mind because he's pretty What will she do?
[SPEAKER_10]: The next thing you see from there, Hey, business side her apartment He's gotta take Peggy to pound town Thanks feeling great, I've been pound town Hey, there's a band and guns pound town
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, there's more to that, of course, it is I didn't think about that being Pinky's first you probably I mean he grew up in Brooklyn, I don't know that's true But I mean I feel like the way that Abe treated her you know in previous episodes
[SPEAKER_13]: The only reason why Peggy would even consider being attracted to him after the fact is because it's a little naughty to be dating at you.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's my guess.
[SPEAKER_13]: Otherwise, like, you know, why would she still, uh, why would she be attracted to him?
[SPEAKER_13]: Like he was like, he likes problematic men.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's true too, that's true.
[SPEAKER_13]: But she also like dates, uh, like weaklings, like that, that previous boy.
[SPEAKER_05]: So she's turning over a new leaf.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the name is not a weakling.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, it's not that Abe is right away like he yeah, I mean look hey writers can be strong Yeah writers can be strong.
[SPEAKER_13]: Just look at Vince just look at how strong he is true.
[SPEAKER_13]: I resent just look at it look at the muscle look at his medically tight ass.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh Yeah, no, it's I think Abe is not exactly a weekling, but he's
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he's a strong personality.
[SPEAKER_13]: He has a strong personality.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Wilton, Wilton flower, you know, exactly exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's also kind of an exciting, like, you into another side of New York that she's kind of interested in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's hip.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's cool.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's hanging out with all her friends.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, yeah, let's talk about this episode.
[SPEAKER_13]: Just basic thoughts, Vince, what do you think?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, first of all, I mean, it's called Chinese wall and I think like the, you know, explain that jokes aside.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the idea of Chinese wall is that you have like a little paper, like a thin wall, but like a clear separation between your personal life and your work life.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so this episode is all about, you know,
[SPEAKER_05]: Don and Dr. Miller's conflicting views of the separation between personal work-life, Peggy and Abe's conflicting views of separation between work-life and personal life, and, of course, Joan and Rogers sort of the conflicting ideas between the separation.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and, of course, Ken and Pete and Pete's father-in-law.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you know, it's very thematically tight in that way, because it's covering that theme.
[SPEAKER_05]: Stan and Pegor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Great episode in that sense.
[SPEAKER_13]: Wait, but isn't that a Japanese wall to Chinese walls also have paid?
[SPEAKER_13]: Do they do paper walls too?
[SPEAKER_13]: I assume they're the same.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know if it's racist to say that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not sure, do they look the same?
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, but the great wall of China.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that's a strong, that's not a paper wall.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, it's famously sturdy.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know what they mean by Chinese wall.
[SPEAKER_13]: I said the whole episode of saying, somebody say Chinese wall, so I understand it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, a Chinese wall now commonly termed an ethical wall or firewall is an information barrier within an organization designed to prevent conflicts of interest by restricting the flow of confidence.
[SPEAKER_05]: So maybe they are saying like a strong wall and I just interpreted it as a Japanese wall.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're thinking Japanese wall, but I like that racism in my head on it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, no, but it still sounds kind of
[SPEAKER_13]: you're not completely wrong because it is referring to specifically the ethics based on, you know, Don, uh, Don asking faith for this favor of tell me what you find.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I understand.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, the thematically I was on point.
[SPEAKER_05]: My other point about this episode, uh, which is I feel like they're doing a lot of color theory and they're doing like way too much of
[SPEAKER_05]: Like color they maybe that's maybe something that you'd only notice I don't notice if you're doing like a close read rewatcher the show and I just watching it for fun, but like the way they're like constantly putting Stan and Peggy and the downtown crew and really bright colors to like sort of contrast them with the drab you know black suited okay the door wearing business guy types is is it was kind of grading on me, but uh yeah, I don't even notice those things
[SPEAKER_13]: But like visually, I'm always just like, I don't know, man, they, you know, put it on the camera on the point and shoot, you know, I mean.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like the general, the general, the general evolution of this show is sort of away from like, I think it starts off with more cultural commentary, like, and like sort of, you know,
[SPEAKER_05]: historical commentary like the beginning of the show and then sort of as the show evolves it becomes more of a character piece uh-huh and so like when I see like four seasons in one there's still these like clear markers where it's like oh remember the generation gap and the 60s and the time they were changing guys wearing fedores but then people wearing colorful things and having fears I'm kind of I kind of push back because I'm like I don't really care like that was the what that was my way into the show but we're past that now I think we need to do that again
[SPEAKER_13]: there's also a deep-seated resentment that I think our entire generation has for people who lionize the sixties.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, and it just so, you know, boomers telling us how great and revolutionary that they were while being terrible to us.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, we, we don't lock it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Brent, general thoughts.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would say my general thoughts are, look, it's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every episode of Madman is pretty good.
[SPEAKER_04]: But as far as that episode's a Madman go, this one, kind of a glue guy, you know, not your own run-hitter, kind of a utility player.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like, it's kind of holding a lot of this season together.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's like, there's not a lot of like new or exciting stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: We already knew about Lucky Strike.
[SPEAKER_04]: We already kind of, we already met Abe.
[SPEAKER_04]: We already kind of knew Don and Megan were going to hook up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, it serves a function.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it serves a function, but there's it's a little bit of a let's let's see what else, especially because I don't clubhouse.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly great clubhouse guy real leader, but it there by the end of it, I was kind of like, all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: They, how do they get out of this mess?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like, that's exactly what I really remember how they, I don't know, this lucky strike thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was kind of like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, lucky strike.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's next, what's next?
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, I had a great time, there's some jokes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I at least one of Peggy's shirts.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, wow, what a great shirt.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's never had an excellent shirt.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is the, like the floral print one?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if it's flowering.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's flowering.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, roughly things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, those nice, like a tie, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a good shirt.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I mean, same here, I kind of thought this was, it's episode was like a served function, was very much leading into other more interesting episodes in which other things happen.
[SPEAKER_13]: I also feel already exhausted from a previous episode in which there's a personal crisis in
[SPEAKER_13]: Don freaking out now, you know, I have to get to the office, you know, it's like he's been doing this for like, I don't know three episodes in a row now like, oh my life is falling apart.
[SPEAKER_13]: I have to get to the office and so he's, you know, this is Obviously all hands on deck full crisis mode and it's understood that this will losing
[SPEAKER_13]: Lucky Strike will ruin the company, at least in some fashion, so you want to see what the results are or what the strategy is for fixing it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So instead of it being that it's kind of just like everyone.
[SPEAKER_13]: learning that the company is going to, you know, fail.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, it feels like a very like almost like LinkedIn themed episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're sure we're going to persevere.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to do this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's very much rely on our networks.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I got I remember.
[SPEAKER_05]: When I got laid off from a prox, they gave me, you know, one of the terms of the separation agreement is like, Abba, you get free career counseling with love, love with your career counseling.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so I did like one session because I was like, maybe she's got something to tell me that I don't already know and it was like,
[SPEAKER_05]: It was nope.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was the same fucking bullshit like career center advice from when you're in college that gives you absolutely nothing Yeah, how to write a resume.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the same experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got laid up from a job and I got one and I was like whatever it's real do it And she had me like re format my resume and then everyone I showed it to after that was like this is bad Why did you do this right back?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes, please waste your time.
[SPEAKER_05]: I I'm a who doesn't have a real job telling you how to get a job, so sure
[SPEAKER_13]: I had to do one of those things, but it was when I was getting general assistance, which is like welfare, essentially.
[SPEAKER_13]: I had like in order to get it, I had to, number one, I had to go to work, which I was like, well, that, what?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I had to like go to the VA hospital and like wash clothes.
[SPEAKER_13]: So I was like, isn't this what?
[SPEAKER_13]: training program.
[SPEAKER_13]: It was one day they taught me and a room full of people how to write a resume, which I'm like, okay, if ever there was a good place to teach people how to get a job right a resume, I assume they're like, you know, welfare office is that makes sense to me at the very least, at least in a track.
[SPEAKER_13]: But I was sitting in there going like, I know how to get a job.
[SPEAKER_13]: I just don't
[SPEAKER_13]: They kept saying yo, you five oh, huh, and I was like, I'm why would I be here?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, why is there a sting here and they?
[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing I could say would convince them that I wasn't at I think I was Six foot two Spectacles sorry six I'm that classic six with six bespectacle to cop that everyone talks about that's right
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, and yeah, it's not like, I mean, I guess it was the mustache just doing a lot of the Yeah, anyways, I thought this episode was okay, but I want to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So let's go through it And for this one, I got to say it really doesn't serve it to break it down into individual arcs because there's kind of just one thing going throughout the entire time.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's one clear like late motif that I did is a light motif for late motif.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're a strong person.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I really liked the subplot where it was clear that the writers were like some dads and they were like, remember how back in the day, like you didn't even have to be there during the delivery.
[SPEAKER_05]: You could just like go out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You just go out and golf or go to the ball game.
[SPEAKER_13]: You got a call and then say, oh, your daughter's born.
[SPEAKER_13]: You'd be like, I'll see her in a week.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, go go buy some cigars for the boys.
[SPEAKER_13]: Busy and killing hookers in Tijuana.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, that's a father, you know, I respected that as a writing choice because all we're thinking about in our generation.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a God.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have to do so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: They make us sit on this chair that doesn't even really fold out and you have to sleep on it for like three nights and I know, but get the babies poop all day.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, but why does it have to
[SPEAKER_13]: to be uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't understand it.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a very weird.
[SPEAKER_11]: Why does it have to be?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I just give a regular recliner.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like they built a special chair who's only function is to be uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's so fucking weird.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then they're like, or you could take the window seat.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's like three feet wide.
[SPEAKER_13]: and it's like it's you got to roll up into a ball and it might as well have a sign under it that says here lies my sleeping bitch ass husband who's too tired to stay up during 18 hours of labor.
[SPEAKER_13]: Why would I?
[SPEAKER_13]: What do I have to do?
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, they sit there and just go good job.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, I don't want that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Now I'm just kidding.
[SPEAKER_13]: I love my wife What's they talking about?
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, the show Madman So it opens with Joyce and Peggy are coming back from the beach Abe shows up and makes Peggy sit on her lap his leg lap And he does this thing where he's like
[SPEAKER_13]: being kind of sexual with her and as also complimenting her like she's she's a apologetic for having to sit on his lap and he's like whatever you like what do you weigh a pound yeah not long after that she takes him back to her do you think you could use your butt cheeks to straddle my penis like okay just yeah i'm just fit it right between you don't need a seat belt i think that's why
[SPEAKER_13]: Peggy takes him back to her apartment, and he's, again, kind of doing the single, he's complimenting her, but in this way that it's like, he's like trying a little bit hard, and it's almost insulting.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is one of the things he says to her.
[SPEAKER_11]: God, I love your shoulders.
[SPEAKER_11]: You look like you're in the Olympics.
[SPEAKER_08]: He never stopped talking.
[SPEAKER_13]: that like that is such a backhanded cobblers like shoulders so broad I love of my god just like I love how I love how big your bones are
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I love how much extra skin you have.
[SPEAKER_13]: She'll make her's in general.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shoulders in general is odd place to start my man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I've complimented my wife's shoulders before.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I get into some extent, but I definitely didn't lead with that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I don't think she's old enough yet to be, you know, complimenting her on like getting her like,
[SPEAKER_13]: body built up you know what I mean like when woman is in so much definition in your lats right yeah exactly I just get really like climate tree I just love the way you look like you're built for water polo
[SPEAKER_13]: Just there's something I'll just love the way your body reminds me of a pair So you can't just say Olympics.
[SPEAKER_13]: You got to specify it in it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but we know what it is It's swimming.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's like look at her.
[SPEAKER_13]: She's she's got she's up broad shoulder big bone lady And there's nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_13]: She's very hot, but you might come off a little weird Kenny is out to dinner With his fiance Larissa fucking all-in-ic
[SPEAKER_13]: Can you guys believe it?
[SPEAKER_13]: Do you guys know who that is?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that Clarissa?
[SPEAKER_13]: No, that's, that's, make something joan heart.
[SPEAKER_13]: Melissa Joan heart.
[SPEAKER_04]: Melissa Joan heart.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_13]: Clarissa, all in a Alex Mac, that's it.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a secret life.
[SPEAKER_13]: Alex Mac, she would turn into like quick, like liquid sour goo.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, she would be mercury.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then she would like turn into, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: hottest girl in the world.
[SPEAKER_13]: I was wanted to be with her.
[SPEAKER_13]: She looks good for her age too.
[SPEAKER_13]: God day.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was a little after my time.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had a thing for Clarissa, so like they make sense that the people, you know, people, fears, younger will be into Alex Mac.
[SPEAKER_13]: Alex Mack was the one to choose.
[SPEAKER_13]: She could get it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So it's nice to see her there.
[SPEAKER_13]: He finds out at dinner that a when a competitor like, you know, comes by and says condolences to him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, when the weird guy from the guy go ad shows up.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, um, that's what I thought.
[SPEAKER_13]: I was like, I've seen this guy.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, he finds out that Lucky Strike is leaving Sterling Cooper Draper Price.
[SPEAKER_13]: And this sets off a series of telephone calls and visits.
[SPEAKER_13]: Can he visit speed at the hospital?
[SPEAKER_13]: Was wife is giving birth and I was like, hey, can you hear about Lucky Strike?
[SPEAKER_13]: and the back, you know, Pete calls Don, while he's making it with Dr. Fay and, you know, Don is like, well, I have to get her to the office.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then they all go to the office and back at the office Roger finally shows up here's the news and pretends to be shocked by it, which is a really fun scene, just because he's pretending to be on the phone with Lee Garner Jr. Another reason I like it is because as far as I remember, nothing comes of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and that was a weird moment there where it looked like I was trying to tell whether whether they're trying to imply that Bert Cooper saw him Put his hand over the whatever you call that little the hangar up her guy hangar up button I couldn't tell if if Bert Cooper was supposed to have clocked that or not because if he did clock it
[SPEAKER_13]: I feel like he would have said something about it, um, you know, I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_13]: But he calls and gives a pretty like convincing performance in the middle of the room.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like, you know, how could you do this?
[SPEAKER_13]: It's been 30 years and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_13]: And, um, yeah, it's, uh, it's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_13]: Leigh earned a junior is polling.
[SPEAKER_11]: You mean, who cares?
[SPEAKER_11]: I've helped you, Barry?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, he says that in the previous episode.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's like, you know how many lies have told for you and like most of them are just like about him suck at dick.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm pretty sure because Lee Gerd Jr's been gay his whole life I assume Roger has Seen multiple different sal type scenarios in which he's come on to people who are not interested
[SPEAKER_13]: Don comes back to the office and Dr. Faye is on the couch asleep and you can almost see her feet.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anyways, Don pours himself a drink and tells Faye about lucky strike leaving.
[SPEAKER_13]: she tries to get him to not drink too much and at one point he just looks she looks at her at him and says all look at that poem and he looks back goes what what
[SPEAKER_13]: What did you say?
[SPEAKER_13]: What are those Jew words?
[SPEAKER_13]: Like, what?
[SPEAKER_13]: There's like a moment there where I feel like he's offended and maybe, you know, she cast some sort of Jew spell.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He was calling me out saying like it's very obvious that she's Jewish and I'm like okay But it's also very obvious that she looks Italian because she's played she's played by an Italian and she's she's played by an actress Who's who for me at least.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, that's like that face, but wait We got a DM that who was Jewish that Dr. Miller Jewish Dr. Miller.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I didn't I didn't see the DM But okay fine
[SPEAKER_13]: That's no big deal.
[SPEAKER_13]: The only reason I thought she might be other than her using the word punum was because her last name was Miller, which is, you know, is surprising to other people common for Jews in terms of the last name.
[SPEAKER_13]: There's a lot of Miller's.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know how in the whole, you know, paleocelament, Miller's came up, but they did.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, she uses Jewish magic on him and he's afraid.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what I wrote down.
[SPEAKER_13]: Then, you know, back at the hospital, Pete spends this whole episode mid his wife giving birth and it's it is a funny little like, uh, I don't know,
[SPEAKER_13]: home base to go back to where he's freaking out about everything that's happening, but he's also keeps coming back to the hospital and having to deal with work stuff even there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's got important stuff to do while his wife is giving birth.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right, but also I have important things going on and I feel I feel bad about it because there's
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, he does have important work to do.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is a really specifically bad time at the company.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's not, you know, oh, he's just, you know, doing 18 holes of golf with some scumbags or whatnot.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's like, then losing this business is going to, you know, make it so that they might go out of business because of it.
[SPEAKER_13]: While he's there, Tom, his father-in-law,
[SPEAKER_13]: uh... is like listen you had your fun but now it's time to work with a big company maybe you should talk to Ted Shaw and and later Ted Shaw does come by and give the uh... hard sell for peat what are your thoughts on whether or not peat should bail right here because my thought was yes that was my thought i mean a copy yeah i'm probably bailing i mean yeah he just got shit on
[SPEAKER_05]: Don Don just like don't I don't know why I don't I was like that'll be an interesting question to ask people I mean don't just wrap fucked him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know He's clearly weighing it against having to work with Ted Shaw Which does seem like a nightmare is it just that Ted Shaw is annoying is that the whole yeah, I think so I think that's it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well Ted Shaw is just also obviously
[SPEAKER_05]: So obviously like inferior to Don, but also just annoying to be around, so it's kind of, yeah, you can see how it doesn't feel like he's rising star, I don't think.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's also a pride thing, like, you know, if your father-in-law was like, all right, come on, get a real job.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not my dad, fuck you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, yeah, you're not my real dad.
[SPEAKER_13]: My real dad died in a plane crash.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: But yeah, this is kind of what he's dealing with.
[SPEAKER_13]: Meanwhile, at the office,
[SPEAKER_13]: Pete is telling everyone that if they try to send a resume out, he'll execute them.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is a really fun way of threatening your own co-workers.
[SPEAKER_13]: Then there is another call from Roger.
[SPEAKER_13]: So Roger is told that he's got to go to North Carolina and meet with Lee Garner Jr and the people at American tobacco in person and try to make the case.
[SPEAKER_13]: He calls pretending to be in North Carolina, but he is at a New York hotel room, hiding out, and he tells everyone that's it.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's all fucked.
[SPEAKER_13]: I talked to him.
[SPEAKER_13]: He won't.
[SPEAKER_13]: They won't change your mind.
[SPEAKER_13]: Lucky strike is gone.
[SPEAKER_13]: later he calls up Joan begging her for sex and in begging her for sex, one of his strategies is tell her the truth about where I am, which I thought was like and reveal that you're telling the truth now is which is a reveal that you have been withholding the truth from her for the last however long.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is such a weird strategy that I was just like, let's see what happens, you know, like, maybe this will work.
[SPEAKER_13]: It just seems like a big risk for someone who's like really sad and lonely.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Do you have some of that?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, here's it.
[SPEAKER_08]: You knew about it.
[SPEAKER_13]: I can't believe you.
[SPEAKER_13]: We could have done something.
[SPEAKER_13]: Don't yell at me.
[SPEAKER_13]: I just love the way he's like, why are you yelling at me?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't do the truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mommy, I'm so all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm all right.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what my kid will do.
[SPEAKER_05]: He'll like hit me in the nut through something and then I'll yell at him for it and then he'll cry as a way to be like, why are you being mean to me?
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh my God, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: You hit me in the nut, so why do you think?
[SPEAKER_13]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_13]: I do not understand why my career will pop and he'll be like daddy was mean to me.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why?
[SPEAKER_13]: Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Karina does this all the time where she just goes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Stop being mean to me after I say you have to brush your teeth.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's always that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not being mean to you.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm really nice.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's fucked up.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm calling CPS.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, don't call him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's like the first five years of their lives.
[SPEAKER_05]: You just spend like getting abused, forcing them to do things.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like if you don't force them to do these things, it's like your bad parent.
[SPEAKER_05]: Meanwhile, it's like it's all stuff that they treat as if you're water boarding them.
[SPEAKER_13]: Always always and I swear to God have the stuff that they don't want to do It's because they can tell you really need them to do it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm like
[SPEAKER_13]: This instinct sucks.
[SPEAKER_13]: Why is that your instinct?
[SPEAKER_13]: It's just like, oh, he wants me to, I should not.
[SPEAKER_13]: Why am I the enemy?
[SPEAKER_13]: Shouldn't it be like, oh, dad, the man who made me, he wants to protect me.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, not that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anyways, I love my daughter.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like this storyline because
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like this show turns us into Don Draper because it's so much more enjoyable to watch like Roger when he's brimming with confidence getting drunk and being a piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like watching Roger be weak and sad.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of just like, I don't like this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you go back to be?
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you go back to be being a glib cad?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we feel like you'll be incorrigible, please.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're looking very corrigible and it's not becoming of you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's not being corrigible.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not becoming.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do think it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess in 1965, I guess it was just different.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was harder to get into all the people, but like nobody else.
[SPEAKER_04]: tried to contact literally anyone to find out what was going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were just like, yeah, Rogers gonna play and he'll take care of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: We I can't I think that's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the whole Chinese wall between accounts and the rest of the agency where it's like, oh, no, we have a single point of contact.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't need a bunch of like annoying creatives, hassling the money people.
[SPEAKER_05]: We just have, we just have one schmoozy guy who gets drunk with them and does all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, Dawn is such a confident like salesman in the pitchman that I'm surprised that there, you know, there's not.
[SPEAKER_04]: At least a scene where they talk him out of calling Lee Garner senior or something, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think part of it is also that no one likes dealing with the lucky strike guys because they're scary.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're all scary, so the nerds.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: It could be, I was thinking that, you know, the, it's a Chinese wall, because when Roger and Lee Garner junior were close together, you couldn't pull them apart,
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you did a spray with the hose.
[SPEAKER_13]: They get, it's harder for them to break because their fingers are trying to, oh, like a, yeah, a Chinese finger trap.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, I had fun with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was good once I got it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, no, it was like, sometimes you just have to muddle through my thoughts.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was a thinker.
[SPEAKER_05]: You guys look at that on the way home.
[SPEAKER_13]: That was like, you ever like walked through a foam ball pit, you know, like you ever been to like a kid's zone or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's one, I'm on, uh, prednisone because I hurt my back at a kid's fun zone over the weekend.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: So that's sometimes the way I do a bit is like that.
[SPEAKER_13]: It really slogans through trying to.
[SPEAKER_13]: Lift one leg over another I thought it was gonna be fun but now I'm trudging my way out Yeah, it's trudging I got a trudge any who before we trudged too far.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah A little a little break for a oh shit.
[SPEAKER_13]: Is that bread?
[SPEAKER_13]: Wow He's right.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And we're back as mad yourself a man here with Brent Flyberg producer of Mad Yourself a man.
[SPEAKER_13]: How you doing Brent?
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh so much worse.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh good.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um now now it's time for us to continue talking about Madman and so
[SPEAKER_13]: There's an all-hands meeting at Sterling Cooper Draper Price, and they have to announce that they grow up women.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, the all-hands meeting is that everyone gets to squeeze today.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not the fun kind of all-hands meeting, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_13]: The 60's all-hands meetings were just a bunch of guys going, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow,
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, no, it is, uh, everyone's there.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're listening to first bird is talking.
[SPEAKER_13]: Then Dawn is talking like, don't worry, everything's going to be fine.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then they hand it over to some random turtle dude who we've never seen before.
[SPEAKER_13]: He is the head accountant and it is, I think it's like a great way of visually telling the audience and then also, you know, the characters in the show.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, this is really bad.
[SPEAKER_13]: The accountant's talking.
[SPEAKER_13]: If you let your head account and talk at your office and it's like, you know, fire rings are about to be happening.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just, uh, yeah, flashbacks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just, you never want, if you're ever in an all-hands meeting where the CEO comes on to reassure everyone that, like, everything's going fine, it's like, get out, like start updating your resume, get out of there.
[SPEAKER_13]: First of all, I just want to say, I...
[SPEAKER_13]: have not met a lot of you personally, but I know you're good at your job.
[SPEAKER_13]: Second of all, with that being said, go find a new one.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to need a few of you to fewer of you to work harder.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Which is great because that's good work for you if you're sticking around.
[SPEAKER_13]: you will find out if you're sticking around at the end of lunch.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so everyone's freaking out and done meets with all of creative.
[SPEAKER_13]: Danny asked if it's the last hired last fired sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: So I could be able to fucking talk you about.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you mean he was the most recent hire?
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's like, well, I get to stay here longer because I showed up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why?
[SPEAKER_13]: Is that a thing last hired last fired?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, this is just a dumb joke because it was kind of like a...
[SPEAKER_13]: I just got here.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can't fire me, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can't do it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like, I've never heard that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Did he invent?
[SPEAKER_13]: It was he like, well, the rhyme sounds real.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was very clever for him.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know what that's.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, too.
[SPEAKER_13]: Brent, what were you going to say?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I was going to say at least give the part where he.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a little joke where they're like, does anyone have any questions and Danny Seagull in the battle race?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it does bring his hands.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, we could see him because he's little.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, it's so good.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, like where they cast people deliberately just to like make fun of them, you know, we've got to get it we've got to just cast a short guy so we can just do short jokes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, so yeah, Peggy is still being tasked with doing the play text pitch and, you know, Peggy spends the majority of this episode being in sort of like a horny days.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, like she's really into Abe, you know, after they have sex, she like they wake up in the morning and she basically is like, don't leave fuck again And he's like, oh, okay, let's do this and then they, you know, have more sex Me and she just floats in on a cloud of fuckfumes straight up straight up.
[SPEAKER_13]: She's just like, you know, floats in like she was smelling a fuck pie on a windowsill And She's
[SPEAKER_13]: She's working on this play-tex pitch that Dawn is still letting her do because he doesn't want to do it because it'll look desperate, which I think is really funny.
[SPEAKER_13]: And her pitch is, of course, incredibly horny and both Danny Seagull and Stan Notice, the horneiness of it, and I have a clip of that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Play-tex gloves, protect a woman's hands, so they're soft enough to...
[SPEAKER_08]: Touch all the things a woman wants to touch all the things
[SPEAKER_13]: I love that moment because right there, Danny Seagull thinks he's being suggestive and sexy and also undermining of her pitch and she's like, uh-huh, she's like, no, I am not knowingly being horny in this picture.
[SPEAKER_13]: The subtext that you caught is actually the text of the text, so I understand you think you're showing me something here, but no, I am openly horny.
[SPEAKER_08]: The exciting things she wants to feel with her fingertips.
[SPEAKER_08]: His lips.
[SPEAKER_08]: The top to pair on his chest.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: The small is back.
[SPEAKER_09]: What is she, what is she wearing under?
[SPEAKER_09]: The small of my back.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do they make foot gloves?
[SPEAKER_01]: My whole, my whole back is small.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine Dawn saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a delivery for Peggy Olson.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to take care of this in the practice.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to stick!
[SPEAKER_13]: my wrong or she's given it all the last days of Rome and my wrong or is am I about to get my dick sucked later there's something about Danny Seagull that had to give me the cure for the common blow.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, the cure for the common come you know there's something about Danny Seagull that excites me as like I love watching him
[SPEAKER_13]: be incompetent and almost every facet in his life, including like the way he reads signals from people.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's kind of like he's kind of like a stand-in for the inattentive viewer.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's like, and did I just catch something here?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Was there a very subtle whiff of I'm about to get some pussy going on in here?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, he's he's great and of course Stan feels the exact same way because he too is not great at reading signals But more to the point he's incredibly overconfident and thinks he's like the hottest dude in the world Which let's be real next to Don Draper.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think he is the second hottest guy in the office
[SPEAKER_05]: So this is this kind of plays into my color theory complaint it's mostly centered on Stan Like Stan annoys me as a character not because he's like an annoying guy I just feel like the symbolism of like what he's supposed to represent tends to overshadow like his character qualities Okay, it feels a little tri-hard like it feels like they had an idea of what a character should represent and they never quite got around to like fleshing him out as
[SPEAKER_05]: And he was being just kind of like everybody in the office is wearing their suit and ties and their fedoras and they're like hey and then we got this one guy who looks like he's in a fucking sailor cartoon, you know, he's like dressed like a motorcycle guy one day and then the next day he's got like his stripey beach boys polo shirt on and then the next day he's got like a green green blazer and a blue shirt which looks pretty badass, but like I mean that was a good outfit
[SPEAKER_05]: it feels like they're trying to do more with the symbolism than they are with like just telling the fucking story of like who the story is and what his deal is, I guess.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's true and I will say that like this is based on my memory of the full rewatch of Stan Stan serves that purpose almost like the entirety of the series.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, um, his character like we always feel like we're gonna get another layer of Stan and then it's like, nah, really.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll eventually you kind of do, but yeah, but not really.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like, yeah, I don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen the lighter seasons in a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I remember him growing on me, and I do feel like, I don't know, maybe it was intentional, maybe it's not, but I think that
[SPEAKER_04]: early on he's a poser like that's a mean thing yeah he's all like I'm a motorcycle guy I'm a nudist I'm a cool guy it's like no you don't he I don't think he knows who he is and right of later on I think he's a bad guy I think in another show like he would be one of the best characters right I just think he's just he's slightly weak compared to the rest of madman yes yeah
[SPEAKER_13]: I would say, and this is just based on my memory of the full series, if you were to switch Stan's character and you know, also Peggy's character obviously, like gender wise, you would find he sort of serves the role of a girl for, you know, the lead character, one of the like, you know, second lead characters to eventually end up with because we need someone for
[SPEAKER_13]: with.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what it feels like.
[SPEAKER_05]: And also, I think part of it is also, it's like he, he kind of replaced Paul Kinsey in the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like I like Paul Kinsey, Paul Kinsey is such so much richer of a text.
[SPEAKER_05]: Completely.
[SPEAKER_13]: This, yeah, Stan is a lot more, I don't know, it's, uh,
[SPEAKER_13]: Shallow of a character.
[SPEAKER_13]: I guess it's like the the character is not fully fleshed out and I don't remember if it ever gets fully fleshed out But I will say he's interesting enough for me Yeah, so I kind of kill in the vibe.
[SPEAKER_13]: It doesn't kill the vibe He does the thing he needs to do He just changes a lot as a character and so because of that you don't really get a consistent like who is Stan?
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, we know he's horny.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's kind of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and it was if it's a choice between me wanting to pay attention to Stan and me wanting to pay attention to Kinsey or Harry Crane or Pete or even Kenny.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, yeah, like, those other ones better.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I will say Harry Crayne for me is a tough one, but I think it's because he is a good character that I find him so grotesque Such a piece of shit like I don't lie to him as such like a libertarian cock suckers.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, he's like one of the you worst motherfuckers on the show He's got a JD van's quality
[SPEAKER_05]: where he's like a bad person, but he's also like a weak person at the same time, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like he's he's playing sort of fumbled his way into like a really powerful position and you can tell.
[SPEAKER_04]: And no one respects him.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like a tiny bully.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, no one respects him, so it's like it's hard to you don't want to be the one to bully him because everyone's already bullying him Anyhow Don it gets a call from glow coat glow coat.
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, pulling their account and he yells at them He says I want a Cleo for you
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, then he throws his Cleo against the desk and he breaks it and he throws it away and then he comes in to Back to just like that angle when he won the ward and then the other guy at the bar was like Yeah, you know, this is terrible for you, right now everyone's gonna think that like everyone's gonna say like, oh, this is too artistic because like You know, I mean, which is interesting angle that I don't think I would have thought about
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but it's cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you sort of see it come to fruition here with the the glow coat dropping him a second.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that is true.
[SPEAKER_13]: But yeah, he's, you know, feeling shitty about it because also Pete was the one who was supposed to, you know, call these like big clients and just reassure them.
[SPEAKER_13]: Everything's going to be fine.
[SPEAKER_13]: Just because we lost Lucky Strike doesn't mean we're necessarily going to go out of business.
[SPEAKER_13]: Don goes to take that call.
[SPEAKER_13]: Pete is like half asleep in the chair because he's been up all night You know, because his wife is about to have a baby He comes back in the room and in As soon as he comes back in he overhears this conversation is Pete is just talking about how you know Truety is still in labor because her pussy too tight And It's a little doctor says they never let the labor go fast to some sense.
[SPEAKER_06]: What exactly is the problem?
[SPEAKER_06]: Apparently, Trudy's pelvis is too small and the baby shoulders can't get through.
[SPEAKER_06]: They should cut it out.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't like to start there.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it's right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Baby got the Olympian shoulders.
[SPEAKER_13]: Trudy got that too tight pussy.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he walked.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy that Berk Cooper is so quick to be like cut it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you consider cutting it out like a... You know what, you know what can happen during a medical procedure.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_13]: You had both your balls cut out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're going to accidentally cut out a review.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I don't think he cares.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think he wants revenge on people with working, you know, reproductive organs.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, Don comes in during this conversation, and basically, you know, chides Pete for not having his head in the game.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, your wife.
[SPEAKER_11]: Your wife's pussy too tight to call people.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Your wife's pussy too tight and to handle the having one baby.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm going to lose my company.
[SPEAKER_13]: So and Pete is rightfully like pissed off at dawns attitude because it's like hey mother fucker you're the one who made me You know drop this multi-million dollar account because you were because you're Reward deserve it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Fuck it asshole dude Yeah, so then like Pete is back at the hospital.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's forced to hang out with Ted Shaw Ted Shaw's pitching hard
[SPEAKER_13]: Meanwhile, Roger, this is real quick.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Ted Chau was pretty smooth.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's so too.
[SPEAKER_04]: He convinced me to work for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: It could be Campbell, color, and and John, he's like, wouldn't it be, you know, your name for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm open to that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, go.
[SPEAKER_04]: She ain't shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Whatever it is, but I was like, damn, that's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he got my
[SPEAKER_05]: Also, one of the things, I mean, watching the show from the context of our generation, just like the dynamic between Pete and his father-in-law, it's like, it really lives in this world that you can tell our parents came from because back in those days, it was like, okay, if you are like a white dude with a college degree, it's just like, oh yeah, they just hand you like a job for life at some company.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a company where you're just like, okay, you, you are going to have two weeks, two weeks paid vacation and and like a nest egg from the time that you want to do.
[SPEAKER_13]: We'll hire you and then you work for 20 years and then you're going to be rich for the rest of your life.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you have money to like move to Florida and golf and and leave an inheritance for your children.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we will have engraved rattles.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, there was just a, oh god, they didn't have to start any fucking podcast.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'll tell you that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'll tell you that right now forced into a life of podcasting.
[SPEAKER_13]: They never had to pay taxes with 6 10 99s.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, anyways.
[SPEAKER_13]: So all yourself employed, the government takes most of it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So anyways, Dawn is, oh, yeah, no, Roger visits Joan, tries to make out with her.
[SPEAKER_13]: Joan's not interested.
[SPEAKER_13]: She can't do this anymore.
[SPEAKER_13]: And Roger learns that them fucking after the mug was last time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, do you have the conversation?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I just love when she says, Broder, I can't do this anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like three times and it goes, just say what you just, just right.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you trying to say?
[SPEAKER_05]: What's trying to say to me here?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've never been more obvious.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's like, you can't be doing bits right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to,
[SPEAKER_13]: I really loved him being like, man, I wish I had known that the, you know, after the mugging was the last time and it's like, well, I could have given you like a guess, like something that should have hinted you to that was the, you know, abortion episode from last week, right?
[SPEAKER_13]: Remember that?
[SPEAKER_13]: That was a whole thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: You don't think that maybe that was also part of it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anywho.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wish I would have known that was the last time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would have tried other positions Right, I would have tried doggy.
[SPEAKER_13]: I would have done comma sutras stuff pile drive a cowgirl I kept saying I was gonna go down on you.
[SPEAKER_13]: I never did.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know I never got to taste the once I spent 20 years saying I'll gain your pussy I was too afraid but now I'm not no more.
[SPEAKER_13]: See, that's why you got to save it
[SPEAKER_13]: In case they try to break up, would you be like, nah, but what if I use your pussy right now?
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not a fray no more.
[SPEAKER_13]: So.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, another thing, another thing we do with the writing in the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: One thing that I thought was brilliant is,
[SPEAKER_05]: I know, I don't know, six or seven.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whenever we learned about Bert Cooper's his unnecessary orgectomy, like the way they seeded the doctor's name in there and let you try and figure out what it was and then only gave it to you later.
[SPEAKER_05]: They did a similar thing in this episode where like in the first scene with Kenny, the guy from the rival ad agency, says Mike indulances and he says, oh, you mean David Montgomery?
[SPEAKER_05]: And then we get David Montgomery later when we go to his funeral, so it's like it builds this anticipation Where you're like, who the fuck is David Montgomery?
[SPEAKER_05]: How is this going to be important?
[SPEAKER_05]: I really like the way that they sort of seated that name in there and then
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it sort of finally comes to a head when we actually have the scene at David Montgomery's funeral, which Roger is too much of a bitch to attend.
[SPEAKER_05]: It seems like that would be like Roger's perfect function is like smoozing at a funeral wedding crash or style, but no, he's like too busy wallowing.
[SPEAKER_05]: They go to David Montgomery's funeral and it's a really funny scene anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because it's just people telling all these stories about times the sky wasn't there for his family at all But was totally thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's like yeah, the times where he was stuck at work until the day he died and was just like you know What I love having a family at home
[SPEAKER_13]: Trust me, meanwhile they're, yeah, while he was in London for three months.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was look, every time he had a chance, he looked for a thimble for you.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, right, it's supposed to what he actually did, which was kill hookers.
[SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, and while they're there, they're only there to net work, which is such a funny 10 abortions, he spent all the rest of his money on thimbles for his daughter.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, he got a punch card, so we got the 10th one free.
[SPEAKER_13]: But they're there just to network and there's this funny little moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do Carl's there from Austin, Prena.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's always right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have dog food experience.
[SPEAKER_13]: We have dog food experience.
[SPEAKER_13]: Love to have dog food experience.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the earnestness with what she says, we have dog food experience.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, he's just like, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, all right, put that on the list.
[SPEAKER_13]: Meanwhile, well says dog food experience.
[SPEAKER_13]: Matt's mom, yeah, I know, I know it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, Dr. Fay is waiting for Don in his office.
[SPEAKER_13]: She's got her shoes on, so that sucks.
[SPEAKER_13]: And Don starts crying about who is unhappy and at what agency?
[SPEAKER_13]: Because obviously Fay works at multiple agencies and knows, you know, what's going on at each one of them.
[SPEAKER_13]: and one of the things she would know is who what client is unhappy with what agency and he wants this information in order to try to like, you know, post some clients.
[SPEAKER_13]: Faith freaks out rightfully so I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess it's perfect because I think they they both sort of have a point but they're both suck.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like a like peak madmen writing where it's like they both, yeah they both have
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, hey, I need you, I need you to betray your clients for me and tell me, like, who's Tell me who's really up for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I can sell them stuff and she's like, but don't.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't disrespect the rules of business.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're like, all right.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's no rules in business.
[SPEAKER_05]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you both are being children.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I think she's also, I think she's responding to the fact that like, you're my situation chip.
[SPEAKER_04]: You are not my husband.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't, I don't know if I trust you enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: to even potentially put my own career at risk.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: And ultimately, she's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's what's so funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's what she's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But she's also like, she's trying to play the card of, uh, actually I care too much about business to do this for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like, right, the fuck up, like the guys are, uh, your entire business runs on nepotism and chronism, like the right that shit.
[SPEAKER_13]: I also though, I also think that she understands that this is a lot bigger of an ask than he's making it out to be.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's going like, he's asking almost casually like, come on, tell me, tell me, you know, what's the big deal, honey, and for her, she's like, this is kind of like you acting like anal sex is not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like you know what I mean, it's like what's also it's like he's talking down to her He's talking to her like her job isn't as important as a hundred percent and you know at this point He has multiple times Denigrated her line of work like he even said you're not a real doctor
[SPEAKER_13]: He said that's straight up, you're not a real doctor while he was having a panic attack about the fact that he's wanted by the government.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you imagine if Joe Biden said that to Dr. Joe Biden?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they're not.
[SPEAKER_05]: Unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, there's no way they'd stay together.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anyways, they do have this big fight over it.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's very interesting, you know, but I think, you know, like the episode title implies,
[SPEAKER_13]: The fight itself is a lot like when you're at a stop light and everyone gets out of the car and runs around and then goes back in the car.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, whatever that thing's called.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, I think it's uh, some sort of Chinese fire drill.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anyways, really thought this bit was gonna kill.
[SPEAKER_13]: So Stan sees that Peggy is nervous.
[SPEAKER_13]: And for a chance to give her some meditation practices, but then he goes in for a kiss.
[SPEAKER_13]: He just straight up, you know, sexually harasses her in a salsa because he thinks that she's just generally horny for everyone.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like the thing he witnessed with the pitch is funny because he is like, he ends and Danny Seagull.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I think most men are confused when a woman is sexual.
[SPEAKER_13]: you know, there's something about a woman being openly sexual that you for a second, especially if you're young, you think like, oh my god, is this the like one woman who has my sexuality, which is like, if someone ran up to me and started talking my dick, I'd let them, you know, so they think that's what's going on, you know, she's crazy horny, she'll just fuck anything, and of course that's not at all what's going on.
[SPEAKER_13]: Turns out the delivery guy was her actual boyfriend
[SPEAKER_13]: Stan feels embarrassed by her, you know, refusal, her rebuffing his affections, and in an active revenge during the play-tech's pitch, he declines to tell Peggy that she has lipstick on her teeth, and she does the entire pitch with a teeth full of lipstick.
[SPEAKER_13]: And she kills it in the pitch.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a great pitch.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was, yeah, I like that they didn't play it bigger because for a second there I was worried because she has the lipstick on her teeth.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's just been sexually harassed by Stan.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's doing this amazing pitch and the client is like looking at her, looking at her, looking at his lips at her, looking at his teeth at her.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought she was going to be like, how, you know, there you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, comedy of error type like that guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think did a great job of
[SPEAKER_04]: not horny right like he does it's I which I think allowed her to sort of shake it off because the way he does it is perfect.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like almost clinical.
[SPEAKER_13]: It does it.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's amazing like the look that she gives her like nervous kind of tick is she's going through a lot.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's good face acting because she is like
[SPEAKER_13]: Wait, is he sexually harassed me?
[SPEAKER_13]: No, he can't be.
[SPEAKER_13]: It must be like he has a tick.
[SPEAKER_13]: Maybe this is a medical issue he's dealing with.
[SPEAKER_13]: Maybe I shouldn't say anything at all.
[SPEAKER_13]: And she does that all with an span of like 0.5 seconds.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: And it's great to see.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then, of course, at the end of the pitch, it ends up being Harry who says, you have lipstick all over your teeth.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Stan walks by.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, perfect layout for Harry's, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, me, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: To be the guy to be like, you look stupid.
[SPEAKER_04]: You look stupid.
[SPEAKER_11]: Got your ass bitch.
[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe you should have let me squeeze your tits.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, oh, it sucks to be you now.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is what happens.
[SPEAKER_11]: Every time you don't let me squeeze your tits, God's gonna punish you.
[SPEAKER_13]: Fuck it in, so.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anyways, and Dawn sees that Megan has put his Cleo back together, and she wants to stay and help Dawn.
[SPEAKER_13]: She wants to learn all the ins and outs of the advertisement business.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is an interesting moment
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, you know, now we have a newer hotter Peggy, but it turns out it's not that she is just trying to smash and it is, it's really sexy because she's hot.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I liked that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, my wife was like, oh, I hate Megan.
[SPEAKER_05]: She doesn't, you know, she's like, she's like, there's a phonyness to Megan.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think it, I think it works on men and 100%.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was something I was wondering was, do I think she's a good actress?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do I think she's a bad actress or do I think she's perfectly kind of G, Mr. Draper.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, when me I could copy like it's grading.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to give her the benefit of the downside of this great actress because she's nailing that, but if she was like this is fucking annoying.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, they're clearly setting her up to be like dream secretary, right, which is, you know, there's a fakeness to it, but I also, I think it's manufactured and it's like intentional on Megan's part.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it is, um, it is hard to tell.
[SPEAKER_05]: She said she's an artist.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's an actress.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and I'm glad that part of her story is Canadian because you're like, yeah, that's a Canadian.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what you can, you can tell she's Canadian.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can tell she's Canadian and she got those French tees.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anyways, uh, they're like making out and stuff and he's like, no, I can't, uh, I can't make another mistake right now.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, God, and she's like, don't worry.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm cool.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm, I'm a cool girl.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can, you can treat me like shit afterwards.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not gonna run out crying and he's just like, okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: So they fuck.
[SPEAKER_13]: And uh, later he comes home after like putting his clothes on and saying, you know, by making your hot coming.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, after coming, he comes home to see Dr. Fay Miller is leaving.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he also, like, there's an important moment where she establishes that she is not his other secretaries.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what, yeah, yeah, that's literally what she says.
[SPEAKER_13]: She's like, I'm not going to run out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, regular secretary.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a cool secretary.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, she's just letting you know, that other one was a bitch.
[SPEAKER_13]: If I could have just let you fuck me and forget me, you can discard me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, do whatever you want to me, I'm Canadian.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can throw me off the boat after fucking me, you know, like Captain Stabbin.
[SPEAKER_13]: What was that one?
[SPEAKER_13]: It was like a porn.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a weird genre.
[SPEAKER_13]: It was, yeah, it was weird, weird porn genres.
[SPEAKER_05]: They were like mean-spirited.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it was like, it was like back at the Bangbus days, where it was just like porn was mean.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_13]: I didn't like that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, famously it's nice now.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to see a woman gaped by a man who loves her.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Respect her.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, yes, I am pro love and I'm pro laughs.
[SPEAKER_13]: So he comes home to see Dr. Vey Miller is leaving something at the door.
[SPEAKER_13]: You think it's going to be a deer John letter, but they come in and it is something else entirely.
[SPEAKER_13]: Here's that scene.
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't want to do this over the phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to write it on the envelope.
[SPEAKER_07]: Can I come inside?
[SPEAKER_07]: I got you a meeting with Heinz.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's been a girl's sauces and beans.
[SPEAKER_07]: OK.
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought about what you said.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I thought about you.
[SPEAKER_12]: I thought about beans.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I thought about whatever you are in my life right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: beans.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I was just thinking of Gypsy's Trump's and thieves, but trying to sing it in vinegar sauce and beans.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's good, too.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, yeah, so this is a you see the look on Don's face when this happens where he's just like, uh, fuck, I think I would respect that you more if you had stood your ground on this and he feels guilty could too because he just fucked big and, you know, like,
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I thought you said I was a right spider.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I go watch my dick off in this ink really quick?
[SPEAKER_13]: You don't want to stay do you because I kind of smell like this, uh, Montreal poo fire.
[SPEAKER_13]: Anywho, they, uh, yeah, so they, they're, they're together, still no feet, not, not my favorite, and then, um, the final, one of the final scenes, I think that might actually be the final scene, but to put a bow on the Roger story, uh, Roger comes home to Jane, um, and she has the Prince of Sterling's gold and makes you sign it, and it's like,
[SPEAKER_05]: Beautiful bow on that story one thing I didn't know and this one is like it did like a A real publisher take Sterling's gold or did Rogers wife which is like make like a vanity printing of Art to tell I think it's the latter Yeah, I think she just paid to have but it looks great.
[SPEAKER_04]: It looks great.
[SPEAKER_13]: It looks like a real book You know, and that's that's as good as it's gonna get sometimes, you know, so he should we would we should get these mass emails where it was like
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, check out the new, check out the new uprox cover artist, and it was like, you know, some, you know, some music person that I never heard of, and I was like, what, what is this a cover of, you guys don't have a magazine, like, what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like make covers.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it'd be around the office sometimes, I'm like, where are these going?
[SPEAKER_05]: What is this for?
[SPEAKER_05]: Right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Talking about this.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's just like you just framed a picture.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is not a cover of anything.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, yeah, also the just the other storyline that wraps up in a nice bow, uh, Pete's got a daughter.
[SPEAKER_13]: Good for him.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, my daughter.
[SPEAKER_11]: He made that right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, man, the cat's next to me and is super pissed.
[SPEAKER_13]: I've been screaming into this mic for hours, singing, singing, pound town, doing this podcast.
[SPEAKER_13]: And the cat has just been dealing with it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, so that's the end of the episode, favorite scene, least favorite scene.
[SPEAKER_13]: Some of we didn't talk about this.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's it's hard to describe because it's it's a hundred percent visual But there's a moment where like like after Stan sexually harasses Peggy and he like tries to make some little joke and she just gives him this look like What what the fuck is your problem?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's just this perfect face that she gives as she walks out of her I'm sure if you've seen the episode I'm pretty sure you know exactly what face that I'm talking about because it's just it's just a perfect
[SPEAKER_05]: Perfect reaction shot and it's like just a distillation of why Elizabeth Moss is so good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Playing Peggy.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Praise to you, Neil.
[SPEAKER_13]: Brent, favorite scene, least favorite scene.
[SPEAKER_13]: So there's so many days in Tomah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now we did the part that really made me laugh.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wish I had had you pull this clip because it's all about John Ham's line read, but when Pete finds out that the baby has been born and
[SPEAKER_04]: It's during like a tense moment where they're all Rogers office and Don is like Congratulations.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, they all say it at the same time.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're all like congratulate.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's very funny.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is a good line, Reed.
[SPEAKER_13]: Actually, Paul, I think it's right here.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that is a good one.
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, and if I had to give this episode a letter grade and I do, I'm going to give it to B plus Vince, would you give this episode?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, are you trailed off there, Matt?
[SPEAKER_05]: I was wondering if you could, uh, annunciate a little better for me, so know what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, like, like, Brent said, it's the episodes of Clubhouse Guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, uh, therefore, so I'll be plus.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh my god, that's amazing.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, it's just a surprise.
[SPEAKER_13]: Brent?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, if I'm grading this on a curve, whether I had madman episodes, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a bottom tier episode of madman, but that's still as far as like TV in general.
[SPEAKER_13]: Solid B plus I can't do it anymore.
[SPEAKER_13]: I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_13]: I can't do this bit anymore.
[SPEAKER_13]: Solid B plus episode of madman and a solid A plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus
[SPEAKER_13]: Matt yourself, I'm man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow, is that the first bit that you've ever deemed too repetitive?
[SPEAKER_13]: No, no, it's not.
[SPEAKER_13]: I just they always brand always cuts out the part where I say I'm tired of this bit.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, but it's all that uh, Brent Flyberg, thank you so much for talking about management with us.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, thanks for having me.
[SPEAKER_13]: Where can people find you?
[SPEAKER_04]: You can find me on my Instagram, it's Abram Fliberg.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can listen to my podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's called the Ohelya.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can find it on all of the podcast.
[SPEAKER_13]: Listen to Ohelya.
[SPEAKER_13]: And there will be a link in the description.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, everybody.
[SPEAKER_13]: Hey, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh,
[SPEAKER_13]: You know that one the first one is Tarzan.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that was Mexican guy did they do that laugh during the Mariante song sometimes Yeah, yours was way better did
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, uh, first is Patrick Deckel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh Deckel.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's like sounds like his name's like Yiddish for penis or something Oh, yeah, it's my Deckel.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, if it's okay, that's why you were close.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah Deckel the halls Going this guy Gabriel
[SPEAKER_13]: You know, don't we now I can't bear all that now, I'll do it then how about I get one?
[SPEAKER_13]: I did it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we'll call him Draper because he's dawning dawning me now.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think he's gonna be like, what happened?
[SPEAKER_13]: I want to be gay apparel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then you can be gay apparel if you want.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes we let people pick their own prep school.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, you got to.
[SPEAKER_13]: You got dawning.
[SPEAKER_13]: You got gay apparel.
[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Next speaking of people picked their own name.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is the only name I could find.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is their screen name.
[SPEAKER_13]: Mac.
[SPEAKER_13]: S. Bojangle.
[SPEAKER_13]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Just finger-liquid.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Speaking of Josh.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can't you think of Fried Chicken and then...
[SPEAKER_05]: It does feel like I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can think because Bojangles.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want Fried Chicken.
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, once you hear anything referencing Fried Chicken, I'm gonna get up.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm hungry for fried chicken.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm gonna get fried chicken.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what I'm gonna do.
[SPEAKER_13]: Speaking of Josh, this person is just one name.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sid.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sid.
[SPEAKER_05]: Callin' this guy, Sloth, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just watch, I say it, maybe there's a slant, something tangentially related.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now we're goin' with Sloth, that's all right.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, it's Sloth, why not?
[SPEAKER_13]: Bucket, shout out to you, Sid.
[SPEAKER_13]: Also, you could have given it a last name or anything, I hope you know who you are, Sid.
[SPEAKER_13]: You did pay $8 or more to get this shout out.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sloth, okay, two more Andrew Robertson.
[SPEAKER_05]: Andrew Robertson, whoo, what do you say?
[SPEAKER_05]: You can't say enough about Andrew Robertson, can you?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, you can't, I mean, Robertson, more like Pico Robertson, where the Jews live.
[SPEAKER_13]: Hmm, it's a very specific neighborhood in Lexington, so I don't know what else to do with Robertson.
[SPEAKER_05]: Robertson, you got Bob, we're calling this guy Apples, because he's Bob and... For Apple, fuck.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: Apples.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, this is good prep school works.
[SPEAKER_13]: It does.
[SPEAKER_13]: Last but not least, Crystal Robinson.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, she's robin' all right, she stole my heart.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, we're calling her Elvira because she's looking through a crystal ball.
[SPEAKER_13]: She's looking through them crystal balls, single-angle-angle-angle, deck dolls with balls.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, guys, this is the beginning with my brain is not leaking out of my head.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is something we should do at the beginning, but if you want to hear more of your name on something at the end of the podcast, eight dollars here more gets you that shout out patreon.com slash broadcast.
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[SPEAKER_13]: For all your questions, comments, and concerns, one of those concerns could be where's my name?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Peggy sits on his lepsis, sorry, and a left-hand says she only weighs.
[SPEAKER_10]: One pound, they're headed in a packed car from the beach and to the city Abrough Peggy's arm and she don't mind because he's pretty What will she do?
[SPEAKER_10]: The next thing you see from there, Abyss, inside her apartment He's about to take Peggy to pound, pound
[SPEAKER_10]: Probably Reggie's first Jew.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Don feelin' down, Roger lost a big account And now the agency might go down He's begging pay for some insight information Now about who it is pleased Around town, but pay is feeling bad Then don't let ask her such a question Don't expect that pay is bad, yes, that's it
[SPEAKER_10]: They're both feeling tension round and round it goes So don's in his office again, he forgets about fate And decides to take Megan to hometown She is from Montreal, hometown She says she's a cool girl, hometown Oh, Dr. Fedono, apologize later
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody knows that I can see the cities If this is meant that for 11 I didn't write more lyrics I should write more than I could do the whole song like I like to do But I didn't do that So instead I'm going off the top of the dome These hard lyrics I'm just making a picture
[SPEAKER_02]: Duck and dick, and I don't want to write any more, but it's why you bitch, I've done enough for you, bitch, suck and dick, is my favorite thing to suck, or have a, all right, yeah, bitch, yeah, play that beauty from me, you stupid bitch, play that bitch, play that bitch, play that bitch, oh, my cats in the room, she is not happy.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sorry, kitty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, kitty.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And give it one reason I'm gay, ha?
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'll get my butt right down.
[SPEAKER_05]: Stupid ass.