WEBVTT 00:00.031 --> 00:04.155 [SPEAKER_02]: This episode is proudly brought to you by Bee Parent's surrogacy. 00:04.796 --> 00:28.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Head to beeparenth surrogacy.com to learn more and start your family building journey to day. 00:28.702 --> 00:40.922 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, hello, you know, like six million people are going to see that six million, yeah, that's how many of you is mama has 00:43.062 --> 00:43.724 [SPEAKER_02]: You're ready, sure. 00:44.586 --> 00:47.173 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome, welcome, welcome. 00:47.233 --> 00:50.080 [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all to the Clear Family podcast. 00:50.120 --> 00:51.684 [SPEAKER_02]: To show all about family. 00:51.724 --> 00:52.667 [SPEAKER_02]: You want to hold down? 00:53.850 --> 00:55.113 [SPEAKER_02]: That's how I always say it. 00:55.193 --> 00:57.339 [SPEAKER_02]: Clearly my wife doesn't listen anymore. 00:57.379 --> 00:59.805 [SPEAKER_02]: To show all about family. 01:01.355 --> 01:02.377 [SPEAKER_02]: But we're gay. 01:06.306 --> 01:11.017 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh god, this show that highlights celebrates uplifts and normalizes. 01:11.678 --> 01:18.874 [SPEAKER_02]: Ligipy to qual families in all of our fabulous identities and this episode. 01:18.854 --> 01:20.376 [SPEAKER_02]: highlights our family. 01:21.578 --> 01:25.184 [SPEAKER_02]: We're doing a look into our lives episode. 01:25.244 --> 01:26.867 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not the words I'm looking for. 01:26.927 --> 01:27.969 [SPEAKER_02]: What are the words I'm looking for? 01:28.449 --> 01:35.921 [SPEAKER_02]: We're doing a check-in episode on the Kelwood's clan. 01:36.262 --> 01:38.846 [SPEAKER_02]: We got a dog crying on the bed in the background. 01:39.226 --> 01:42.752 [SPEAKER_02]: We got a child watching a TV right there. 01:43.137 --> 01:44.921 [SPEAKER_01]: who should be in bed, it's past as bedtime. 01:45.062 --> 01:54.445 [SPEAKER_02]: Who should be in bed, but I'm forcing my wife to do this episode because we had a little hiccup, so we're doing a check-in with the Kelwitz. 01:55.868 --> 01:57.612 [SPEAKER_02]: And we've got a lot to check in on. 01:57.672 --> 01:58.434 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't we? 01:58.915 --> 01:59.136 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 01:59.176 --> 01:59.998 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 02:01.801 --> 02:13.218 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you've listened in the past year and a half, you've known we've been going through a cancer journey and had a breast cancer diagnosis in December of 2024. 02:13.378 --> 02:21.210 [SPEAKER_02]: And 2025 was our breast cancer year with chemo and 02:21.190 --> 02:25.461 [SPEAKER_01]: surgery and radiation targeted treatment. 02:25.922 --> 02:27.205 [SPEAKER_01]: It's carried into 2020. 02:27.406 --> 02:31.977 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're still in targeted treatment, but we see light at the end of the tunnel. 02:32.358 --> 02:34.022 [SPEAKER_02]: It is ending in May. 02:34.343 --> 02:34.744 [SPEAKER_01]: May. 02:36.142 --> 02:37.364 [SPEAKER_01]: more cycle. 02:37.384 --> 02:44.472 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we're at the point of this breast cancer journey where we do see the light at the end of the tunnel and life is looking better. 02:44.572 --> 02:45.033 [SPEAKER_02]: Am I right? 02:45.594 --> 02:45.794 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 02:46.174 --> 02:50.660 [SPEAKER_02]: Not me to speak for you, but I feel like we're getting there. 02:51.020 --> 02:51.841 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 02:51.861 --> 02:58.089 [SPEAKER_02]: Finally feels like and it has been a long fucking journey to be quite honest. 02:58.209 --> 03:03.736 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you want to speak on that. 03:03.896 --> 03:05.338 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's been long 03:05.960 --> 03:07.463 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, and you're pretty tough. 03:08.646 --> 03:09.328 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought I was. 03:09.488 --> 03:16.083 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I tell you what, and is we call her the Honey Badger lovingly in this family, because nothing takes her down. 03:16.243 --> 03:16.624 [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing. 03:17.005 --> 03:17.767 [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what, dear? 03:17.987 --> 03:18.709 [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo. 03:18.729 --> 03:20.172 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 03:20.192 --> 03:21.916 [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo is tough on it. 03:22.457 --> 03:25.504 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that if you weren't a Honey Badger, 03:26.395 --> 03:30.963 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you are, I think it would have taken you down even harder to be quite honest. 03:31.044 --> 03:31.925 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know. 03:32.186 --> 03:38.137 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that you're a honey badgerness really, really paid off for you on this journey. 03:38.778 --> 03:40.181 [SPEAKER_02]: But we're through it. 03:40.842 --> 03:42.565 [SPEAKER_02]: Harris come back. 03:42.545 --> 03:44.587 [SPEAKER_02]: Nicely, I should say, looks good. 03:45.148 --> 03:45.789 [SPEAKER_02]: We are both. 03:46.089 --> 03:50.615 [SPEAKER_02]: This is so last minute, and I ought to be honest, I have an even shower today. 03:50.695 --> 03:58.124 [SPEAKER_02]: I did the gym, and then work, and the kids, and yeah, and in, had no idea she was going to have to do this. 03:58.304 --> 04:00.467 [SPEAKER_01]: So I did shower the two of them. 04:01.848 --> 04:09.818 [SPEAKER_02]: She's better than me now. 04:10.253 --> 04:16.369 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, three treatments left and it's exciting to move along. 04:16.610 --> 04:19.116 [SPEAKER_02]: The targeted treatment is not immunotherapy. 04:19.136 --> 04:23.046 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I've been calling it, it's something it's called targeted treatment. 04:23.066 --> 04:25.613 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, because people don't know what that means. 04:25.593 --> 04:29.717 [SPEAKER_02]: And we don't even know what that means, but it's targeted to make sure it doesn't come back. 04:30.178 --> 04:33.181 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's targeted towards my specific cancer. 04:33.341 --> 04:39.287 [SPEAKER_01]: I am hurt to estrogen positive, progesterian negative, hurt to positive. 04:39.467 --> 04:49.778 [SPEAKER_01]: So that means the estrogen, this is targeted treatment to keep my estrogen levels down and keep the cancer cells from growing. 04:49.758 --> 04:52.625 [SPEAKER_01]: because estrogen feeds my cancer. 04:52.946 --> 04:58.801 [SPEAKER_01]: So I have to keep my estrogen as low as possible, which means hot flases, y'all. 04:59.823 --> 05:01.287 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a hot flases. 05:01.570 --> 05:15.077 [SPEAKER_01]: back to the whole down, so it's targeted treatment because the herd to estrogen positive, or pedestrian negative, herd to positive, is a cancer that comes back frequently and is aggressive. 05:15.418 --> 05:20.829 [SPEAKER_01]: So they do this extra treatment and according to them, this helps keep it at bay. 05:20.869 --> 05:23.494 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're in it to win it. 05:23.963 --> 05:34.581 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, according to them also this is the cancer they treat regularly and this is there's is their jam this is what they do like this cancer this particular one is 05:34.882 --> 05:35.683 [SPEAKER_02]: They're bread and butter. 05:35.983 --> 05:38.906 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, basically, that they said targeted treatment. 05:38.947 --> 05:42.010 [SPEAKER_01]: We joke and we call it diet chemo or chemo light. 05:42.450 --> 05:43.692 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so chemo. 05:43.712 --> 05:46.775 [SPEAKER_01]: And you like to say it is that chemo, but it's chemo. 05:46.935 --> 05:50.700 [SPEAKER_01]: But it is nothing compared to her lunch chemo. 05:51.460 --> 05:53.042 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's still the side effects you get. 05:53.202 --> 06:02.813 [SPEAKER_01]: It all has a lot of the same side effects, but of a third of the extreme or third of the, 06:03.029 --> 06:04.912 [SPEAKER_02]: the terror intensity of it. 06:05.312 --> 06:05.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, intensity. 06:06.014 --> 06:06.474 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the word. 06:06.655 --> 06:06.915 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 06:07.215 --> 06:10.921 [SPEAKER_02]: I walk into the bedroom and seeing you stare it off into the space. 06:11.382 --> 06:16.950 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, space with a dejected look on your face like you're going to die. 06:17.391 --> 06:21.517 [SPEAKER_02]: Like quite honestly, like that's that's cancer. 06:21.557 --> 06:22.278 [SPEAKER_02]: That's chemo. 06:22.659 --> 06:24.241 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're almost there. 06:24.301 --> 06:24.842 [SPEAKER_02]: We're through it. 06:25.163 --> 06:25.663 [SPEAKER_02]: We're getting there. 06:25.704 --> 06:27.046 [SPEAKER_02]: This is supposed to be light hearted. 06:27.086 --> 06:28.648 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to cruise. 06:29.337 --> 06:32.608 [SPEAKER_02]: When this episode airs, we are on our cruise. 06:33.029 --> 06:36.179 [SPEAKER_02]: We are on spring break on our cruise. 06:36.701 --> 06:38.065 [SPEAKER_02]: We're almost docking. 06:39.412 --> 06:50.103 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're almost done with Gaze with kids, which you heard the ad, if you listened to this show, I was helping to sponsor it and get the awareness out. 06:50.143 --> 06:58.733 [SPEAKER_02]: We got 50 families coming with us on this cruise on Royal Caribbean, where it's a whole Gaze family group. 06:58.813 --> 07:00.414 [SPEAKER_02]: We're all going to meet and it's going to be fun. 07:00.474 --> 07:01.476 [SPEAKER_02]: We're very excited. 07:01.516 --> 07:02.837 [SPEAKER_01]: Love new people. 07:04.302 --> 07:05.524 [SPEAKER_01]: Love me, new people. 07:06.084 --> 07:06.825 [SPEAKER_01]: Pring them all on. 07:08.287 --> 07:09.469 [SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be fun. 07:10.150 --> 07:11.491 [SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be so fun. 07:11.571 --> 07:15.937 [SPEAKER_02]: She's gonna just, and it's gonna just be at the sports bar, watching the sports games. 07:16.378 --> 07:17.980 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm gonna be out mingling with the food. 07:18.000 --> 07:19.362 [SPEAKER_01]: But it'll be the final four weekend. 07:19.602 --> 07:21.665 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's not that many games to watch. 07:22.325 --> 07:22.926 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh. 07:22.946 --> 07:24.148 [SPEAKER_01]: Really, there's only four. 07:24.749 --> 07:24.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 07:24.869 --> 07:26.391 [SPEAKER_01]: If we watch men's and women. 07:26.851 --> 07:27.092 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 07:27.452 --> 07:28.133 [SPEAKER_02]: So. 07:28.231 --> 07:30.995 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, Kira keeps whining at us. 07:31.215 --> 07:37.944 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, because because we're at the time of night when the dog gets the attention and she gets to play. 07:38.004 --> 07:40.387 [SPEAKER_02]: Now she's mad at us, because she's not allowed to play. 07:40.688 --> 07:42.851 [SPEAKER_02]: And so she's whining her butt off. 07:44.793 --> 07:47.557 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's never a dull moment, y'all. 07:47.697 --> 07:48.999 [SPEAKER_02]: But we're going on a cruise. 07:49.079 --> 07:50.661 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited. 07:50.911 --> 08:01.287 [SPEAKER_02]: And jokes, but Anne's going to be make best friends with all of these people and I'm going to be the one that's like, I don't really want to hate what's And that's the truth. 08:01.548 --> 08:02.509 [SPEAKER_02]: That is the truth. 08:02.629 --> 08:03.611 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not true. 08:04.132 --> 08:05.414 [SPEAKER_02]: A woe way is somewhere. 08:06.195 --> 08:07.277 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is. 08:09.821 --> 08:12.164 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any ways to take out her part, cherson? 08:12.886 --> 08:14.488 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't take it out, cherson. 08:15.076 --> 08:19.444 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, okay, all right, we're just rambling, but we're all we're excited. 08:19.505 --> 08:32.690 [SPEAKER_02]: This crews kind of when we booked it kind of in our heads helped to mark the end of this cancer journey and we did think would be completely done by that we did think it would be over. 08:32.710 --> 08:34.333 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not over. 08:34.313 --> 08:39.602 [SPEAKER_02]: But we're almost there, but we did think that this is going to be like the marker we did it. 08:39.642 --> 08:40.984 [SPEAKER_02]: We put a stamp in it. 08:41.024 --> 08:42.807 [SPEAKER_02]: We're done with disease. 08:43.548 --> 08:46.172 [SPEAKER_02]: We're headed into a really special week. 08:46.673 --> 08:59.494 [SPEAKER_02]: So sorry, there's no new episode with a new guest, but I thought you might like to have an update 08:59.643 --> 09:15.795 [SPEAKER_02]: We're excited to get away for a second, and but I didn't want to leave you hanging, so we're still releasing in episode and yeah, so thanks Anne for being a good sport always right I'm always willing to jump in 09:16.315 --> 09:17.156 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she knows. 09:17.657 --> 09:21.482 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, it's she knows. 09:21.502 --> 09:22.864 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so fun. 09:23.344 --> 09:23.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love you. 09:24.406 --> 09:25.247 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm. 09:25.367 --> 09:25.768 [SPEAKER_02]: I love you. 09:25.848 --> 09:27.310 [SPEAKER_02]: OK, all right, thanks y'all. 09:27.350 --> 09:28.251 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for tuning in. 09:28.291 --> 09:33.959 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, don't forget that you should always, given us to be here resist. 09:34.900 --> 09:46.255 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, be careful in these crazy times. 09:46.606 --> 09:51.633 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, before we go, do you remember when we were going through the fertility journey with you? 09:51.673 --> 10:06.834 [SPEAKER_02]: You were trying to get pregnant with their first kid and we were doing IUI's IUI's IUI's and then the doctor, mid-ster, like literally mid-cycle, while your legs were in the stir-ups was like, oh, I think we should switch to IVF, you don't remember that? 10:06.854 --> 10:09.198 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember necessarily being in the stir. 10:09.318 --> 10:14.465 [SPEAKER_02]: You were in the stir-ups, like that out because I was on the side of the stir-ups and I was going to talk about me in the stir-ups. 10:14.846 --> 10:15.887 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, back at the rodeo. 10:17.487 --> 10:22.995 [SPEAKER_02]: But in the stirps, switched IVF, we were like, yeah, I UI had been covered at this point, right? 10:23.475 --> 10:37.875 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we get to the point where we're ready to do the transfer, where the eggs are already retrieved and they're gonna put the good one in and before they bring us into the IVF transfer room, they brought us into an office. 10:37.855 --> 10:38.757 [SPEAKER_02]: and literally. 10:38.777 --> 10:39.598 [SPEAKER_02]: The billing office. 10:39.818 --> 10:40.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:40.299 --> 10:46.250 [SPEAKER_02]: And literally slid a piece of paper across the desk and said, you owe this before we do this. 10:46.450 --> 10:48.093 [SPEAKER_02]: You were all prepped and ready to go. 10:48.113 --> 10:48.434 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:48.454 --> 10:48.934 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember? 10:48.974 --> 10:49.395 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 10:49.616 --> 10:49.856 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:50.417 --> 10:51.579 [SPEAKER_02]: And the bill was how much? 10:51.599 --> 10:53.563 [SPEAKER_02]: 15,000 dollars. 10:53.583 --> 10:56.708 [SPEAKER_02]: 15,000 dollars that we were like, 10:56.688 --> 11:07.299 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's a very grobsy, and if we didn't put the, like we were ready to go like the egg was prepped She had to go in so we pulled out a credit card. 11:07.359 --> 11:08.040 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank God. 11:08.060 --> 11:24.197 [SPEAKER_02]: We had a credit card with that with enough limit on it and put it on the credit card And then after that got a loan through your retirement which luckily we had that But the point of this story is is these paths 11:24.177 --> 11:25.979 [SPEAKER_02]: can cost a lot of money. 11:26.039 --> 11:27.920 [SPEAKER_02]: Most likely are going to cost some money. 11:28.301 --> 11:33.265 [SPEAKER_02]: And so if you can get the help, any help, any help monetarily, you should take it. 11:33.305 --> 11:37.489 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I love that I'm partnering with be parent. 11:38.009 --> 11:42.794 [SPEAKER_02]: Be parent helps intended parents manage the entire process. 11:43.194 --> 11:47.898 [SPEAKER_02]: From matching with the 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