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[SPEAKER_07]: In the new hood, we got with us here today.
[SPEAKER_07]: His name is Austin Paget.
[SPEAKER_07]: There he is.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's a hedgehog.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's one of the very few tolerable little turns left.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, they're making a resurgence.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are they?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there's a couple of groups.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, Austin Peterson's always been good too.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's, we've had him on.
[SPEAKER_07]: But did it show this morning?
[SPEAKER_07]: There's only a couple.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's only a couple, I feel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's like, didn't you get into it with Dave Smith?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we were both doing the libertarian stuff together, but I was in Thailand before I came back to the US.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, we were doing all sorts of different things, but we all came together around the Mises Caucus, but kind of things have shaken up and split from six ways to Sunday.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's kind of one of the reasons why we wanted to have you on here today.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, looking from the outside and at all the shit that's happening with, let's call them, I'm going to use air quotes on conservative.
[SPEAKER_05]: podcast host or whatever we want to call it talk right Carlson and can't so and Even Alex Jones having his fucking meltdown trying to get the 25th of the month of my arms Retailer greens doing a podcast a podcast.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know what it is very Prolly started one two Sure he did when you look at this is it shocking to you or or is this just part for the course?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I've been kind of warning about some of this
[SPEAKER_06]: things that could lead to a split for a couple years, but some of the other stuff is shocking.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, but if it's a split with a Republican party, because I don't think it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's just, no, no, there are public parties fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the host.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's mostly like the libertarian element, but not even the libertarian element, because there's a real competition over the label.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the label kind of gets attached to the Ron Paul circle right now, and so the people who control what's coming out of that faction kind of,
[SPEAKER_06]: get a broad representation, but if you think about people who just care about small government
[SPEAKER_06]: 90% of them exist as conservatives right just talking broadly like the constitution and things like that, which is the core of what libertarianism is which is property rights and individual sovereignty and mocking as Christianity or The core of what it can being in conservative was to a large degree in form to yeah like the locking in principles and then I guess the Scottish Enlightenment people in a in a large way.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I think this
[SPEAKER_07]: the Reformation and Scottish Enlightenment people really woe religion, Christianity, specifically back into this idea.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because that means a lot of it started there.
[SPEAKER_07]: The idea of like, from the Jews, this uniqueness before God, right, is one of the seeds of equal representation of the law, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: If we're all made in the image of God, then we're all unique.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that way, and everybody is the same, including kings, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's one of the things that was used philosophically to do away with what we call the divine right of kings, starting with the Magna Carta and moving forward with the agreement of the people and all this other stuff that happened, and eventually our country, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: That used to be not just the definition of conservatism, but Americanism.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, even like the classical liberal belief system is an outgrowth of that because if you think about equal protection under the law, that's where it comes from.
[SPEAKER_07]: Why would there be a equal protection under the law if we're not equal, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: That's in the free speech and all this other stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, it's like it's it's so weird.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_07]: He's been talking about it for a long time.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've been talking about it for a long time.
[SPEAKER_07]: These, I call it the tachia of the American right, because they're just fake, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not actually conservative at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: What, which is, again, why we wouldn't have you on the show today because some people have bitched at us for calling these guys out.
[SPEAKER_05]: The, is one of the questions I want to ask you.
[SPEAKER_05]: What happened to you guys?
[SPEAKER_07]: What happened to you guys?
[SPEAKER_07]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_05]: nothing at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: We were actually the most consistent there is, but there's nothing wrong with calling out people who have changed so dramatically that these are people we knew when we're friends.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, what does that remind you of, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: People who were saying, I don't know what happened.
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't change at all, but these people are yelling at me.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's like Democrats when Woke took over the Democrats.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it is largely connected.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's morphed into this like TDSism.
[SPEAKER_06]: There was an error that it was like true conservatism for a while and that they were
[SPEAKER_06]: Lingo has just gone by the wayside as they're clearly appealing to a left Right TDS audience mostly the extremes Rather than the middle right and so they're pretending like they represent the middle in the true America But it's really the margins and the middle is not
[SPEAKER_06]: like sink, uger, and Dave Smith, the middle is someone who's grilling and wants us to win an Iran even if they're kind of skeptical of the war.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like Chuck Schumer, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because like who among us hasn't put a piece of cheese on a raw hamburger without the grill turned on?
[SPEAKER_07]: For a photo of.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people in that culture.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's also Jewish, you can't eat meat and cheese at the same time, so I don't know what that's about.
[SPEAKER_06]: We had a, we had a vote.
[SPEAKER_06]: But you can place them on each other raw.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's a jackdew.
[SPEAKER_06]: We might figure it out.
[SPEAKER_07]: In Mormonism, they call him Jack.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're a Jack Mormon if you don't really follow any of the rules.
[SPEAKER_05]: OK.
[SPEAKER_07]: I guess that's a jackdew.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, we'll talk about this in this next story here, but there was just a vote in the house and a Democrat flipped for the War Night ran.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're like, eh, keep going.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're killing this guy online.
[SPEAKER_05]: Todd Golden, this is name, we'll get to it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But, um,
[SPEAKER_05]: The last thing I want to ask you about before we get into the news is the Jew thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's Jews, Jews, and Israel is a Israel.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've been DMed by friends who have asked me and they were like, oh, is Dan getting paid by Israel?
[SPEAKER_05]: What the fuck's going on?
[SPEAKER_05]: Neither of us give a fuck about his real one to like holy shit But I would tell you I'd be rich as fuck man.
[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't be here and I you know Jesus Christ 50 hearty hearty of cells are being all 50 states for Christ's sake So no and I don't even think about it at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where did that all start?
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I know we're in bed with them on a couple of these things, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously I ran one of them and then the Gaza thing to an extent but yeah I mean, it started in multiple places and one way it started was with the left
[SPEAKER_06]: right where the left are ready.
[SPEAKER_06]: They combine Jews and white people together as the oppressor in Asians too.
[SPEAKER_06]: But most of them are left.
[SPEAKER_06]: Some of the left separated Jews from that and said actually like fringe groups of left would say Jews are actually the most powerful and then the right when they took up the leftist identity politics that is how it was expressed because maybe black people taking up identity politics are going to
[SPEAKER_06]: have victim status around white people, the only group that white people could choose conceivably is Jews.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's with an extreme narrative stretch where you're discounting your entirely own civilizational trajectory or the fact that everything that some Jewish NGOs said in the
[SPEAKER_06]: And the same things we're being said in the French Revolution, and we have a one like historical trajectory within Chris and Dome talking about the origins of libertarianism, through Christianity, having like individual sovereignty, love, and the word, which is a reference for the truth.
[SPEAKER_06]: Logos, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And all that.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just so bizarre to me, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're hearing you remember more and more and more and more.
[SPEAKER_07]: This was, I was talking about this a lot after
[SPEAKER_07]: After October 7th, but before all this weird anti-Jews stuff started, and this is how identity politics works from the left.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can track this throughout all of history, actually it's not even just what I say modern I mean, back to marks.
[SPEAKER_07]: They will
[SPEAKER_07]: You can track the red-green alliance that again existed way before.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's red-green gold now.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's red-green gold now.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that this red-green alliance between leftists and Islamists have existed long before Marx put a label to leftism, frankly.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, so did leftism.
[SPEAKER_06]: Before it was really before Marx.
[SPEAKER_06]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Communism is the inversion of Christianity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And people ask, well, then if communism was so bad, how can it be connected to Christianity at all?
[SPEAKER_06]: the greater the light, the greater the shadow, if you invert something.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Christianity is the greatest, and so it's opposite.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll also be the worst.
[SPEAKER_06]: And when you say greatest, you mean most amount of people, no, just the greatest value system religion.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so like you know, you're a member of me having this conversation repeatedly.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was, it had nothing to do with the, the fucking Hamas attacks.
[SPEAKER_07]: We were just talking about politics, but
[SPEAKER_07]: From the left, identitarian politics looks like this.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to marshal all the oppressed groups together, all the minority groups together, and make a reactionary, and we're going to be grievance-based, and as a group, we're going to ride that wave into power.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then from the right side, grievance politics, and identity politics looks like we're going to pick a specific minority group and say, they're going to blame for all of our fucking problems.
[SPEAKER_06]: this is you can see this happen again and again and again and again right and there's a good loser canceling me because they're shutting down my youtube show yeah sure shut down my thing yeah and then it's it started like that and Nick went this kind of game traction by kind of stress testing the limits of some of the the banking systems but if you see what's going on now the way to get monetized on youtube is a way to make a much a bunch of money
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not to talk about Israel is to go after Trump and going after Israel is never Trump is protected.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go after Trump is always connected speed.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's why Candace gets the best ad buys and that's why history 102.
[SPEAKER_05]: No shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we get nothing on YouTube and it's all our bread and butter's audio.
[SPEAKER_06]: You need to be anti-civilizational to get paid on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_06]: And these other big tech platforms it shows you that this UK kind of censorship is still lurking right behind.
[SPEAKER_05]: I said this to my wife and my neighbors the other night and I go, dude, it's we're going through it every day.
[SPEAKER_07]: That woman who was the chief, I could think she would have been a GS16 probably or 17 maybe of the governance disinformation board under DHS.
[SPEAKER_07]: She does that exact job for the UK government right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: really yeah she just like got fired here and one over there and started doing it but that's where it came from like a lot of this woke global bullshit comes from through if not from through the Bank of England in London and that's where Mark Carney came from
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, all right, because that dude, I mean, he's just cancel the Kanye concert, which ironically made Kanye even bigger, and it's just like, rising up.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, shit doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just, you know, and Trump had him at the White House.
[SPEAKER_05]: I remember when he was asking about free speech, it he goes, you know, your country isn't known for it anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, ah, back to different blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then Kanye comes over and they're like, nah, bro, we're not doing this.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he, Kear Starmer released a statement on his own personal Twitter about why Kanye wasn't
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're trying to beat the free speech thing, that's probably not it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's crazy that they would even, it's not crazy because leftists are hypocritical, but it's still crazy that they would pretend that they were free speech.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, after they have made $12,000 of this for speech.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so stupid, because there's a half truth to the point where, like, if the government gets centralized enough and powerful enough, eventually there is pressure for a dictator and about through the bureaucracy and control it for his own right,
[SPEAKER_06]: And so people use that to justify dictatorship or monarchy on the right.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like a kind of an edgy point, but it's stupid, it's stupidly fatalistic because we can't actually cut bureaucracy from the executive and reduce the pressure to destroy our society and its foundations, which is what would happen if you did that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And meanwhile, the left is perfectly capable of setting up a dictatorship
[SPEAKER_06]: while pretending their pro-democracy just through their kind of sneaky and a broad bureaucratic control.
[SPEAKER_06]: Meanwhile, it gives them the opportunity to paint us as the dictators while they do a dictatorship.
[SPEAKER_06]: Even though that's not even our plan, it's not even at all Trump strategy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and they are broadcasting bureaucracy, but they're saying he's a dictator because he's executive to get rid of unconstitutional bureaucracy.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we just like a bunch of people are right, just feed into the left narrative constantly.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the reason why we wanted to have him on fake news six, we traditionally don't have guests is we've been talking a lot about the midterms that are coming up in November.
[SPEAKER_05]: We just want to see what somebody in the middle is going to vote for based on some of these issues that we're going to talk about today.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because
[SPEAKER_05]: If it's going to swing and there's going to be this blue wave, I think it's going to be people that are in the middle versus I think Trump started out the rights, obviously, and people who will talk about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a little Republican and midterms anyways, they do.
[SPEAKER_06]: If they show up at all the show of the president, show a lecture.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll find out.
[SPEAKER_05]: So let's start with Iran, because this is a big topic that everybody is saying, hey, dude, you could lose the midterms over this one thing that's going on.
[SPEAKER_07]: as much propaganda around a conflict as this.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like we saw a lot, you can't compare it to COVID.
[SPEAKER_07]: That was full blown.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, that was not, that's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.
[SPEAKER_07]: But this,
[SPEAKER_07]: the constant line about and some of it is a function of just trying to be first somebody hear something from somebody and there's like it used to be that if somebody leaked you something from the government it was real now you've got a bunch of dipshits who talked to the press all the time and it's like a lower level staffer who reports on something that was discussed like at any time although the US made a plan to focus and invade Greenland and and occupied for 30 years like we have a plan for fucking everything
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: We make probably 25 to 50,000 plans per year, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: They get reported up the chain of command and stored in a vault somewhere, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the Wesley Clark memo.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which ironically was that.
[SPEAKER_06]: They referenced it in connection to the Wolf Louis document later, but when Westard Clark was saying, hey, that's just like this other thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: What he was talking about was a memo from 1991.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the Wolf Louis document.
[SPEAKER_07]: Which by the way, was co-written by a guy from the Wolf Louis document later.
[SPEAKER_06]: The memo was before, or maybe maybe it's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: But anyways, it was right after the fall of the Soviet Union.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it was directly targeting every former Soviet client's day.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: As soon as they left the Middle East, we went in, obviously.
[SPEAKER_07]: The Wolfwood's Doctrine, which is what that Wesley Clark fucking, that thing that Dave likes to quote all the time that is hearsay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Clark has had to admit he never actually sought himself a number of times.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, and we know we were interested in the client states anyway.
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, that was part of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: What happened with Israel narrative is the anti-war side figured out that they could elevate their position by latching on to the rising Jewish anti-Jewish identity politics by characterizing all the Middle East wars not as a oil or empire or any of the founding fathers mornings.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now it's like
[SPEAKER_06]: Israel.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was controlling.
[SPEAKER_07]: Which is funny, because the guy with blackmail and the guy who wrote the bulk of the so-called Wolfhoots Doctrine is a fucking afghan.
[SPEAKER_05]: Really?
[SPEAKER_07]: Afghani, afghani.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it was a fucking afghani PhD that wrote most of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: You think he was doing it for Israel?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like fuck off, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's just not, that's not a thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we'll get to the top story here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Iran agrees to hand over uranium.
[SPEAKER_05]: Iran has agreed no nuclear weapons, and they will hand over the nuclear dust per President Trump.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm assuming that's the mountain.
[SPEAKER_05]: that he's referring to they probably bomb the shit out of that it's underneath right now uh... very important is that's iron does not have a nuclear weapon and they've agreed that iron uh... rans agreed to that's and then they've agreed to it very powerfully uh... which is a brilliant line by trump uh... obviously written on the toilet or potentially in the middle of the night now this was a live interview actually but he may have thought it up while he was taking a shit
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, maybe they've agreed to give us back the nuclear dust.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's way underground because of the attack we made with the B2 bombers.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we have a lot of agreements with Iran and I think something's going to happen very positive.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, yesterday, a so-called senior Iranian official warned that US warships are now within striking distance of their rocket launchers.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, that's, that's an interesting thing to say.
[SPEAKER_07]: He said, motion, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r
[SPEAKER_07]: no longer dead made the remarks in the video he said the launchers have most likely been moved by our brothers and are now aimed at the Abraham Lincoln and all American warships they're all under our launchers and we sink them and we will sink them all who will not allow single one to escape us most likely a that's the they don't even know where their launchers are no
[SPEAKER_06]: No, they're not careful.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll get close enough that they can hit us with a rock.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that's going on man.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: The US military says that it has turned back 13 ships so far and it's blockade and now it's expanding the blockade to the entire, like, all oceans.
[SPEAKER_07]: So if they see an Iranian vessel traveling somewhere, then they're going to stop it and board it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I like the reverse blockade.
[SPEAKER_06]: It seems like a much better additional point of leverage than car guy lenders something.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that would have been a huge mistake.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know they were talking about it at the Pentagon and as soon as people started, like I've done a number of different people shows to talk about this and on this wood.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was like, that is a fucking huge mistake.
[SPEAKER_07]: They've definitely got that island zeroed, 100%.
[SPEAKER_07]: All you do stop the boats.
[SPEAKER_07]: We get the most powerful navy in the world.
[SPEAKER_07]: What are we doing here?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, don't over-complicate it and I think that's like an additional point of leverage, but the starting point of the war that people didn't understand because a lot of the people criticizing it are pretending like
[SPEAKER_06]: Six months ago, they were predicting that we would invade Iran, like Iraq, right, under bad anthropological assumptions of democracy building, or that we would try and split Iran up and descend it into like sectarian conflict, which we might end up blowing the infrastructure still.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think we're past that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's something that maybe we were willing to do, but didn't want to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so,
[SPEAKER_06]: Trump's strategy was much less post-modern and much more Roman, where they would kill the leaders until they got to a leadership level that they were willing to negotiate.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's entirely different assumptions in our past Middle East wars.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have the technological capacity to make life impossible for them without getting drawn in, because Iran's two win conditions in their strategy.
[SPEAKER_06]: are to get us to back off like appeasement or to draw us in so far that it's a nightmare right they're prepared for land invasion but we don't need a fight they have nothing yeah we don't need a closing the other side of the straight they're getting choked even faster China's pressuring them to give up there's no point in China investing in Iran to start world war three because
[SPEAKER_06]: they've already lost air superiority, so it's like you're better off investing in a new area.
[SPEAKER_07]: And also China needs the oil, China needs the oil, but still to Europe, we also, I mean, just because you don't know what the plan is, doesn't mean that one doesn't exist, or strategy, or whatever you want to call it, because
[SPEAKER_07]: the straight of Malakah, we signed a security agreement with Indonesia on that, and that's the other part of the delivery system to China, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I just... Trump's an everybody's utaloo.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, or they're in his utaloo, which means he has an information advantage, and there's a SunZoo quote that...
[SPEAKER_06]: If the people who win wars and then start them and then there's people who start wars and then try to win them and those are people that lose Like I have a feeling that Trump won this war before he started it and I mean he definitely know what they can do with yeah, yeah He cut off their abilities Strategically before we even got there
[SPEAKER_07]: So two specific things happened before we ever went to Iran.
[SPEAKER_07]: One is, well, three actually, one is we had them last summer, and then they started moving all their defensive stuff around, and we were watching the whole time.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why we had such good intelligence on what they hit, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: We hit fucking 15,000 targets and it's what two and a half weeks.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: From a, we'll bring an Air Force guy on here sometime and describe how fucking crazy that is, that we hit that many targets.
[SPEAKER_07]: That blows shock in a rack out of the water, but like a margin of probably five to be honest.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: We had good in telling where all their stuff was.
[SPEAKER_07]: The second thing is knocking down Venezuela, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And the reason that was important is Venezuela also supplies Cuba, but it supplies China very cheap pennies on the dollar probably 12 cents for every dollar They should be spending on petroleum
[SPEAKER_07]: And as soon as we start, like we hit Iran and it disrupts oil flow a little bit, but they can still do stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then we blockade and now China's lost 30% 40% of its income petroleum, which they don't just use for energy they use for building.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the first part was softening up the leadership to someone who would negotiate.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the second part was giving them a
[SPEAKER_06]: a reason a deal they couldn't refuse, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Which is the blockade.
[SPEAKER_06]: And people freak out like that jang, fake Chinese, but you guys, like, you killed Ayatola.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to create a poxislamica against America.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you look at it and you're like, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Ayatola was started like 50 years ago.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's more like when the Pope was in France for a couple of years.
[SPEAKER_06]: Only 5% of the Shia world let alone the SUNY world outside of Iran believes in the Ayatola.
[SPEAKER_06]: and he only has like 20% support within Iran.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, and he really, he was already losing control because when you have expanding bureaucracy, a monarch can't really be in charge of it because there's too many elements.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, not without like elevating barons or something, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: You have to create feudalism.
[SPEAKER_06]: It becomes the military and something control.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then the monarch ends up being someone forced to validate the military, but depending on how much cultural capital he has, he can still have some leverage,
[SPEAKER_06]: was a little bit more important than other kings.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the eye of toll was getting in that position where the technocracy beside behind the IRGC was the real power and Iran.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's who Obama and all the globalists were negotiating with to bring them into their sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: Were they afraid of them in, like, for real?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, they're just in off-pallets again.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, they're afraid they're afraid of the American public.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're afraid of doing hardship.
[SPEAKER_07]: And they Trump's going through this backlash rate.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I told I wanted, like, national socialism for Iran, the IRGC wants globalism, they like the dams.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we're just blowing them up until they get someone who agrees to stop working for the globalists.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what's happening.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like a normal person who wants fucking, hey, we want to be ready to develop it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, to not want to make whatever laws you want, we're not going to W-A-F-U and tell you how many chemicals to use, but just don't blow people up and do what you want.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why the whole thing with like, when all these dipshits started talking about Lebanon not being part of a ceasefire, or that it was part of a ceasefire, under no circumstances with that have ever been true.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because one of the major points,
[SPEAKER_07]: from the American side is that this funding of Houthi Amas and Hezbollah is done.
[SPEAKER_07]: You will not do that anymore, or we'll fucking bomb you to, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like he said, this is what I described maybe two months ago, right before all this kicked off.
[SPEAKER_07]: One of the things...
[SPEAKER_07]: One of the things Trump was waiting on because there was waiting like when are we gonna do it when are gonna I remember that One of the things he was waiting on was to identify a number of people inside both The civilian government IRGC and the regular army Give me a list of people who if we kill enough ahead of them they might be willing to fucking talk with us in a serious way And also have the ability to control the country you gotta have both right so that we got a list of those people and we've been clippin people above them Right and
[SPEAKER_07]: And until we get to them, when we talk to them for a bit, maybe that doesn't go well, now you got to die, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: That's just the way it is.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's the Roman style of taking over something.
[SPEAKER_07]: We did it in Gaul, we did it in shit, we did it.
[SPEAKER_07]: We, the Romans did it all over the fucking world.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm pretty sure I was the Gaul.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, you were, yes, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't, yeah, I never did the 23 in me, so I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's how we ended up in Scotland.
[SPEAKER_05]: But let me ask you this, one of the biggest shocks for me, I guess,
[SPEAKER_05]: essentially nuked out, the military wise and all that of the shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why haven't the people risen up and overthrown and installed their own person by now?
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they don't have weapons there.
[SPEAKER_07]: That at all.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we dropped off a bunch of weapons to the Kurds.
[SPEAKER_07]: The Kurdish took them and went back to the fucking Kurdistan.
[SPEAKER_07]: What they want to turn into Kurdistan, they didn't come fight in the city.
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, in Syria, like we would fund sectarian conflict, which wouldn't be a good idea, even if it was possible.
[SPEAKER_06]: Definitely not.
[SPEAKER_06]: But people don't quite understand Iran and that Iran's been a country for 500 years.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's not like Iraq where it was 200 years and kind of didn't have time to melt together, so to say, because you have the Azeri and Iran, which is the Azerbaijani population, and then you have the Kurds, and then you have some arrows.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the Iran defended the Kurds against Saddam,
[SPEAKER_06]: There's like a 500 year history.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're part of a more shared cultural identity.
[SPEAKER_06]: So the Kurds might still, they're still against the regime.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if they had an uprising against the regime, it wouldn't be an uprising that was disconnected from the simultaneous uprising within the Persian population.
[SPEAKER_06]: It wouldn't be, they, the Kurds, the Persians, none of them want Iran to split up.
[SPEAKER_06]: even if they don't like the regime.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, because that's been of all the places that Kurds are right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: Frank, I mean, this sounds weird to say of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I would say Iran's probably been the best outcome for them.
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't have rights anywhere else for the most part where they are.
[SPEAKER_07]: Iraq hates them.
[SPEAKER_07]: They have, I mean, they're in their parliament now, but they do not like them.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know that from firsthand experience.
[SPEAKER_07]: We had some...
[SPEAKER_07]: We trained a bunch of their special operators and a lot of them were Kurdish because they liked to fucking fight, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Most of those guys left the Iraqi army and went back to the Peshmerga at some point, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And then Turkey doesn't particularly care for them either because they're always trying the Turkish Kurds are very frequently on some pathway to create Kurdistan, which is like a cutout.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the Iranian Kurds never are.
[SPEAKER_06]: Usually when we hear about the Kurds, we think of separatism.
[SPEAKER_07]: We think of separatism in Peshmeira to not the Iranian Kurds.
[SPEAKER_07]: The Iranian Kurds are a little bit different.
[SPEAKER_06]: And there's a fake group of democracy for Kurds, which is just people, I think, and I forget what country.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're camped out in some country in Eastern Europe, and they have money from like Saddam way back in the day.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they run propaganda, and they pay American media to show them as representatives of the Kurds.
[SPEAKER_06]: but they're like a leftist group that has no track.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's the same as the M.E.K.
[SPEAKER_07]: Remember that group I was talking about?
[SPEAKER_06]: M.E.K.'
[SPEAKER_06]: 's what I was talking about?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: M.E.K.
[SPEAKER_07]: is like, so M.E.K.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're like an Albanian.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they got booted out of Iran after the 79 revolution.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then they went to Iraq, joined up with Saddam with the bath party for a while.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're full on communes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because Saddam funded them to mess with Iran.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, as an internal uncertainty, basically, yeah, didn't work.
[SPEAKER_07]: SideQuest.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, they got booted out and now Rudy Giuliani.
[SPEAKER_07]: uh... uh... takes money from them to spray paint is that to tell people that fucking we should let the mk take over a ran they do spray paint is all the head of the it's like it's not a thing yeah spray paint on a bald head is expensive too oh well that's that drips the expensive one would not drip yeah well it's on a budget yeah it's not that same shine all you know and smell that you're used to yeah like that judge in the shrunk like just to put a bow on all this um...
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm very curious from your perspective because you know a lot of these people more personally than we do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Is there any opportunity for them?
[SPEAKER_07]: to just be reasonable again, because nothing that Trump has done in Iran has been outside of a normal plan or strategy, it's been Trump doctrine 101, with maximalist demands followed by negotiation, and this is the way peace through strength is designed to work, punch then ask, punch then ask, punch then ask, punch then ask, punch then ask, maybe on the back
[SPEAKER_07]: And then ask again and then punch right like he he's been pretty consistent the way he's handled all this and it's very obvious that he's been consistent in the way that he had there's no like There's no desire at all no matter what some leaker says about building up an army to fucking invade countries that he has any interest in doing that stuff he likes he likes doing Kinetic stuff maximalist
[SPEAKER_07]: claims threats and demands followed by negotiation.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's every single time, it's the same way, and it's weird to me that it's so like hard for these guys to get on board with that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, this is what was happening.
[SPEAKER_06]: Trump is the most libertarian president ever.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's dismantling the U.S. empire.
[SPEAKER_06]: He got Europe to fund their own defense, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: We're not funding the Ukraine more anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're just selling him weapons.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's getting Japan to invest in their own military for the first time since World War II.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why is he doing that?
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's because that's how you can withdraw U.S. troops and how you can avoid spending so much money and getting drawn into conflicts.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: First, you need to remove the dependency, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like 100,000 U.S. troops deployed there at any given time.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not forget about, that's during peacetime.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: It feels like a global reset is happening.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and for the right reasons.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and canceled the last one.
[SPEAKER_05]: It seems like we're going to get out of NATO.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think we'll get out of name unless I think we will.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I think eventually, yeah, I think it is setting the scenes for it because the first step to getting out of name and this goes back to the Roman algae, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, how did the Roman Empire dissolve?
[SPEAKER_06]: It didn't just disappear in a revolt.
[SPEAKER_06]: First, you had the Romans, they would take over an area and then the Romans would do security in that area, so it would be Roman troops.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then eventually it would be locals wearing Roman uniforms and then they would eventually take the Roman uniform off.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that we're describing Iraq.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're getting to the stage where locals wearing uniforms.
[SPEAKER_06]: Where we're getting like Europe and Japan to pay for their own debates.
[SPEAKER_07]: After 80 years of subsidized in the business.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like empires don't last forever, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is the best way that you could actually deconstruct it intelligently while focusing on U.S.
[SPEAKER_06]: productivity, which is the only thing that's ultimately going to keep us secure, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because the military guys were aligned with the globalist WF guys for a while until they realized that, hey, wait a minute, if we join this like globalist economic cartel to the bottom and have a communist utopia, then we don't no longer have a functioning supply chain to type into for ammunition.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so that was what turned those guys against the corporate interest, ironically, because corporations don't like free markets.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that enables us to re-industrialize which pulls the plug on the WIF project.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Trump is like the most libertarian president ever, even if he's not going to get out of NATO.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's showing the seeds for it, and he's pushing the overton window of dialogue, which is the only thing libertarians purport to care about anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's the reason why we wanted to have you on.
[SPEAKER_05]: I see a lot online, but I don't know if it's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where you read all this shit, and again, you don't know what's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I was watching this thing with Higgs at the earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll play this clip here in a second, because he was talking about turning back 13 ships.
[SPEAKER_07]: uh... over there and i ran and uh... and this is by the way what the u.s. is doing right now one it is a big part of our history the first time we ever deployed troops of any kind where that was the navy to the barberry coast to deal with those muslims from fucking with our boats right but forget about the u.s
[SPEAKER_07]: The reason that the British Empire became the British Empire was because of their navy.
[SPEAKER_07]: We now have the most dominant navy in the history of human beings by a factor of a million.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean I don't even know how you even quantify how much farther ahead or further rather ahead.
[SPEAKER_07]: We are naval-wise than everybody else.
[SPEAKER_07]: And even how great our air force is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Navy, it's similar.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's greater because of the Navy, because of our carriers.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's nowhere in the world that we can't put a full-fucking armata and a full-fucking fleet of bombers right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: It would take us two weeks.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're by far still the biggest power projector and Trump's doing that using that to deconstruct the empire intelligently rather than when it's under pressure with we're no longer successful in socialists and all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, just like, it's very, to me, somebody who has spent a lot of time studying war and history is very obvious what's happening right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's very, it's like we are, we have a lot, like, before the Abraham Accords happened, I started, this is what 2000.
[SPEAKER_07]: uh... twenty earlier are nineteen yeah maybe maybe maybe late nineteen yeah we i started to notice that we're doing uh... all these peace deals and and that and done anything with this real yet but it was barrae and oman Saudi Arabia Kuwait i'm like oh these are the richest countries in the middle east that don't fuck around with heres you you i was that came on board at some point
[SPEAKER_07]: And it became very obvious that we were appealing to their financial interests, right, because we've had a fucking intelligence agreement with Saudi Arabia since six months after 9.11.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's when they got rid of the rest of their hard as well.
[SPEAKER_07]: They started fucking killing everybody, including that's why Khashoggi got killed, because he was fucking buddies with Osalam and Laden, right, and he was wrapped up in that fucking network.
[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't because he was talking shit about MBS.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not that I would put it past him, I'm just saying Khashoggi was fucking guilty of sin.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not that he deserved to get ripped apart like that who fucking does just kill this kill the guy move on with your day if you got to do it But anyways, it's been very obvious that all these steps have been strategic in a way that
[SPEAKER_07]: In some ways, because you'll see people in the media, you're like, oh, the Republican or the United States is losing its power globally and blah, blah, blah, it's like, no, we're not at all.
[SPEAKER_07]: One, one, we're showing everybody how what real power looks like right now, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: We're snatching fucking presidents out of their fucking bed at night and shit like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're the UFOs.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we literally.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we're also demonstrated to people that we're going to fucking take care of America.
[SPEAKER_07]: right like all it's which is shocking to me all this so called America first people are so but heard about everything all the time like do you not really understand what's fucking happening here re-sharing manufacturing uh... getting our currency inflation under it's been 80% since 2000 we're getting our currency inflation under control all this other stuff that makes us a strong country of bringing energy production back we're bringing rare earth mineral production back blah blah blah blah all this stuff
[SPEAKER_07]: It made sense for a long time.
[SPEAKER_07]: The world got, it was really curved.
[SPEAKER_07]: They got a little bit flatter and a little bit flatter and a little bit flatter.
[SPEAKER_07]: It made sense to have really strong allies that we supported financially all over the world.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now it doesn't really make sense anymore.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now it's time for everybody to pull their own fucking weight.
[SPEAKER_07]: Even, I mean, Israel is the one that asks us, like to stop funding.
[SPEAKER_06]: Stop funding.
[SPEAKER_06]: We want this rigour range because we get the cheap.
[SPEAKER_07]: But everybody else had to be cuddled into it.
[SPEAKER_07]: They had to be blackmailed, or fucking embarrassed, and Europe into it.
[SPEAKER_07]: They had to, like, even though we handled that situation in Russia through Ukraine, still, we started doing stuff that affected Europe's economy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, and now you're just like, oh, fuck, there's a war comments.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, yeah, there's always a war coming.
[SPEAKER_07]: But the fuck are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_06]: And you're getting to the core of it with Iran, which is what is the point of taking out Iran's military and removing their their missile shield and drone shield from protecting their nuclear threat.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's so that our allied regional block in the Middle East can be self-sufficient without us.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what we can leave the Middle East.
[SPEAKER_06]: and because if we destroy Iran's military and then they develop for another 10 years, all of a sudden, they're completely self-sufficient.
[SPEAKER_05]: But the one clip that they've been showing at a Heggsethel day wasn't the 13 ships and everything else.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the pull-fiction one?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I wanted to ask you guys about this here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Press play.
[SPEAKER_00]: This prayer was decided by Sandy one, which is one of the sandies, to all sandies, all those eight-ten crews prior to all C-star missions, but especially this C-star mission that happened in real time.
[SPEAKER_00]: They call it C-star 25-17, which I think is meant to reflect Ezekiel 25-17.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the prayer is C-star 25-17, and it reads and pray with me, please.
[SPEAKER_00]: The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
[SPEAKER_00]: Blessed is he who in the name of camaraderie and duty shepherd the loss through the valley of darkness.
[SPEAKER_00]: For he is truly his brothers keeper and the finder of lost children.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will strike down upon the with great vengeance and curious that those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you will know my call sign is San D1, when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
[SPEAKER_00]: and amen.
[SPEAKER_07]: You've got damn right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, why was he doing it?
[SPEAKER_05]: Because people online, it wasn't a vote.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not him doing it.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is a lot of this stuff in the military.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he's playing it to the audience.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: He ripped off Pope fiction.
[SPEAKER_05]: This isn't real.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like on viral this morning.
[SPEAKER_07]: These are just psychopath speeches where we fold parts of our experience and parts of our culture.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what everybody always does.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's what I felt like to me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: it's an odd thing to get to be weird about to be honest because we do like um when we went on patrols we would fucking strengthen honor each other all the time that that's just a more shared cultural reference yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like we know it's like once we step outside the wire shits fucking going down like you could come up with a speech or you could just repeat what theater and set in the order right now what's better
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, how many people have quoted Henry the fucking fifth you want to mean I mean, I mean look if you're gonna write better than the Bible than good luck with that now the Pope right who you think would be pretty good at it Bob go to your DMs
[SPEAKER_07]: He did something that was just political.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's completely not.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everything he said over the last week and a half, common two weeks has been political.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but this is like, just play this clip.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's political before he was posted.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was like, I don't really follow Pope's that much.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the Braves, but that's about it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Press play.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, if he was a Braves for you and not a white touch for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus told us, blessed are the peacemakers.
[SPEAKER_01]: but walled to those who manipulate religion and the very name of God for their own military economic or political gain.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, Jesus never said that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I never did.
[SPEAKER_01]: That which is sacred into darkness and filth.
[SPEAKER_01]: From the accent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, my dear sisters and brothers, you, my sisters and brothers, for justice, Jesus Christ, more poor, merciful, meek, and pure of heart,
[SPEAKER_07]: you who have wept and not to give it away so you are the light of the world so we it was going down to Algeria i believe in yeah i just want to address what he said right yeah i got to know we should put this pop in France yeah so revelation twenty two eighteen says i want everyone who hears the words of the prophecy this scroll
[SPEAKER_07]: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll.
[SPEAKER_07]: It echoes warnings from Deuteronomy 4 to Proverbs 35 through 6 and Luke 2236 and a number of other biblical references where the authors say, yeah, don't change what we said.
[SPEAKER_07]: Basically, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't add to it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't subtract from it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Otherwise, you'll be damned.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he's been hypocritical.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wow, the Pope is doing what the Bible tells him not to.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, the Pope's being hypocritical.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I love woke projection never misses you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've never seen a Pope get this political.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the last one dabbled in it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But he, he kind of, I think the last one was more of a communist.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe he was more chill about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think so, though.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was old as shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he didn't really do a lot to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, the baller move was just going out, riding through the village and then dying the next day.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like that was sweet.
[SPEAKER_05]: But other than that, he was a quiet or dude, where is this guy?
[SPEAKER_05]: He advanced killed him.
[SPEAKER_05]: His friends better, yeah, maybe.
[SPEAKER_05]: This guy's front and center around the world.
[SPEAKER_05]: Angel death.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then just everything is either immigration, war, politics, like all the things that obviously doesn't have to worry about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because a lot of the reactionaries are like new Catholic intergrillist and they're talking about how.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was all the Jews, even though there's all these Catholic NGOs, and then meeting while the Pope is like, open your borders.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm waiting for all the fucking poor Catholics who had to suffer through all the bullshit, all the masses, all the other nonsense going to fucking Jesuit school or whatever, whether they're all liberals.
[SPEAKER_07]: Those are liberal ones.
[SPEAKER_06]: The most Catholics are great.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is like the new some of the new Catholics That's just like such a minority is politically relevant.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the just bold Catholics are a slip 50 50 is every other Yeah, there's Baldwin Lourdes, but if you look at so the the Pope the current Leo guy
[SPEAKER_07]: somebody screenshot all of his tweets from his old like as the the day he was named Pope, he deleted his old Twitter account.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well the internet lasts forever, my friend.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and it's it's nothing but fucking globalist anti-Trump.
[SPEAKER_07]: Black Lives Matter.
[SPEAKER_06]: Black Lives Matter.
[SPEAKER_07]: Black Lives Matter.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let all the fucking people in.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we should be friends with Russia, like I mean, I like Russian people I should have talked to Alexander Dugan Yeah, I love Russian people, but the gut like the idea that we should be friends with their government is a bit much Yeah, I love Russia and Russia's an interesting position because they're kind of like the Ayatola Which is that they're more national socialist.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't want to lose their sovereignty to the global system But they allow for that shit, but they also don't want to see the US leave the cartel
[SPEAKER_06]: And become more free market because then that's puts a ton of pressure on there on on them up to become more free Rock and are they fall more farther behind?
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is why the globalists are very aligned against the US industrializing because it compromises the whole system It's the same as when the Dutch got right at their guild system
[SPEAKER_06]: and then France attacked them because it was destroying their textile industry.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so they had a choice of give up their oligarchy or free their market or trying to destroy the Netherlands.
[SPEAKER_06]: They tried.
[SPEAKER_06]: They failed.
[SPEAKER_06]: The England ended up performing after helping the French and failing.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then the French didn't reform.
[SPEAKER_06]: They had the French Revolution.
[SPEAKER_05]: They england doubled their population and became king of the world Okay, so there's a lot of countries there that'll lead us into our first sponsor.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And men's not a prayer.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not if they make an out of group stage.
[SPEAKER_06]: We may not have the FIFA stats.
[SPEAKER_05]: We make it out of group stage because we got an easy draw.
[SPEAKER_05]: And everybody was going at the Trump draw.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's serious.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to the semi-final guaranteed.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's that's what everybody's saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people are saying that.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was an event for 2000 when we got cheated by Germany by the ref.
[SPEAKER_06]: We should have already been in the same house.
[SPEAKER_06]: If we could get cheated by Germany in 2000, was that the land in 1990?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the last US World Cup.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: If we made it.
[SPEAKER_06]: to there then we'll get we'll definitely get that far this time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who's the favorite right now about Spain?
[SPEAKER_05]: Spain.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are the odds?
[SPEAKER_05]: Four and a half to one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, who else?
[SPEAKER_05]: They're not France probably seconds.
[SPEAKER_05]: France is second.
[SPEAKER_07]: England Brazil will be up there.
[SPEAKER_05]: England just lost one of their starters to I think you get a 20 series out.
[SPEAKER_07]: Brazil and Argentina will be up there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Argentina is the reigning champ, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_07]: So they'll be in the mix.
[SPEAKER_07]: Portugal is probably pretty good.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think Ronaldo is actually playing.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's that same or another, but then was just great.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this will be the last one for sure, because I've forgotten.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the point of the way Portugal benched for all the last time and there was last match.
[SPEAKER_07]: He broke the Americans hard.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you remember that, but that year that we lost the Ghana, that only mattered because he came back and tied a game.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is the best cross I've ever seen, especially under pressure.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was like in the 93rd minute and he just trucks down the right side of field, a perfect cross into the box, bam.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I go four of you are wearing identical Ronaldo jerseys and I go, I even I can't fucking tell you apart for Chris Sakes.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how popular he still is.
[SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of this is determined on the star players.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just keep that in mind.
[SPEAKER_05]: And now Bob, you know I gotta ask, where's the United States at here?
[SPEAKER_04]: 64 to 1.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's not bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Would you put money on it?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Baracko has higher odds than us.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who does?
[SPEAKER_04]: Morocco, a Japan boat.
[SPEAKER_06]: Morocco.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's got in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Morocco, these statistics.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, Jack, during the American spirit.
[SPEAKER_07]: Japan.
[SPEAKER_07]: Japan does, okay, sometimes.
[SPEAKER_07]: But Morocco.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like spirit.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's like 40 people in Morocco.
[SPEAKER_07]: What the fuck?
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't, I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Are there,
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how to get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_05]: By the way, it'll he didn't get it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Morocco is another.
[SPEAKER_05]: Again.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the third in the row.
[SPEAKER_06]: They make the European qualifying too hard because of anti-racism.
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[SPEAKER_05]: sit in the couch for this one look we own drink of rose tickets calm i can tell you this they've jacked up the prices of these world cup tickets so high there's not one normal motherfucker who can afford this um you're looking at sixy five hundred for lawyers there so
[SPEAKER_05]: Sit in the couch and watch this one.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's it's better at a bar anyways I To be honest like if you go if if you want to go to a fucking match sometime if it's a championship match or something like that With your team and it or your country and I try to do that if you can once but go to a fucking England
[SPEAKER_07]: And go to some of their soccer stadiums and just to a normal match, and it's his routies.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's going to guess if you're going to just watch a Great a big game that matters watch it in a bar with other fans.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's the best time This one's too expensive even my kids asked last night.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got on a prayer bro That's that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's in Milan in the San Ciro and in the sports section everybody stands on their tunes They get their newspaper.
[SPEAKER_06]: They put it on their chair and then they stand on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a real
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next up Israel and Lebanon choose present Donald Trump announced that the leaders of Israel and Lebanon have agreed to a ten-day ceasefire Which comes is fighting range between rage excuse me between Israel and Tehran Bax militant group
[SPEAKER_05]: Hezbollah, interestingly, is really media, is not reporting that Israel didn't agree to it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Trump just made the prof commission and they had to go along with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, this is something I predicted on the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: A few weeks ago, I go, hey, you can't have a ceasefire and then the next day, immediately go out and bomb.
[SPEAKER_05]: Levin on, it's not gonna be a great look.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Trump is gonna make a phone call.
[SPEAKER_07]: He did, we did, though.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, not only that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, Netanyahu is now saying publicly that he's agreed to it, but they did not like it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure they didn't.
[SPEAKER_06]: But Trump probably holds it through and stuff that they don't like.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's their own media reporting that.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of stuff Israel doesn't like.
[SPEAKER_06]: They didn't like that we sold off Gaza to the original Arabs instead of them controlling it.
[SPEAKER_06]: like we didn't anyways.
[SPEAKER_06]: They wanted to do the Lindsey Graham plan and I ran.
[SPEAKER_06]: We didn't.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think the people who were criticizing this war would have a point if we were invading and occupying them like Iraq and that I would hurt killed Trump's momentum and hurt.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we're not doing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so even before it ends, we're not doing that when it ends because we're not doing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: then it's a totally different political situation, especially if it's tied in with ending Ukraine and then you get like the reindustrialization so I don't know about midterms but like I will let you know I think it's Markets are up and here's what I've said on the show for the last let's call it four weeks because I wanted to take Trump as word of this four to six weeks which
[SPEAKER_05]: This isn't a timeline of this holds, by the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Markets back up all over the shits, I think of oil prices drop, a new Fed chair comes in, and then they're able to drop the interest rates, cars go down, houses go down, things start to move around the economy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think all this shit could be cleaned up by summer, however, you got to get these dick heads that we just talked about to kind of play ball.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, this is the interesting point about Liz, there's a lot actually, you mentioned Morocco, used to be Christian, Algeria, Christian, Spain, Christian, you know, and then the odd of an empire happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, Lebanon is another one, but that was at that was post-automance.
[SPEAKER_07]: Lebanon was a majority of Christian as late as like 1965.
[SPEAKER_07]: People forget about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: They just think of it as a fucking Muslim country.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is not crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not a Muslim country and historically never was.
[SPEAKER_07]: But.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is now, and we're dealing with that.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is the first time ever that a Lebanese head of state and an Israeli head of state will sit down together to discuss something like this, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it would have been a moot point in the first 20 years of Israel's existence after that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Israel's kind of a constant state of war with its surrounding neighbors for a good while, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And what's the relevance of that?
[SPEAKER_06]: The relevance of that is that everybody said that you would never get peace in the Middle East.
[SPEAKER_06]: unless you return 67 borders and made the Arabs happy about Palestine.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Trump did get the Arabs to accept a deal over Palestine, and their whole alliance no longer cares about it, they want to develop.
[SPEAKER_06]: Iran is the only blocker to that, and they're transcending it.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I see a really actually great future for
[SPEAKER_06]: the Middle East.
[SPEAKER_05]: If all of this holds up, and it's the Middle East.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's what always makes me think.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is what we say it's the Middle East, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: First time they're ever talking to Lebanon.
[SPEAKER_06]: So do you have the people that we're fighting Israel in the 67 wars are now they're strong allies, the other half are they're reluctant allies?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like this is a different world we're living in right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: And when colonialism started in the Middle East, the Europeans were so much further advanced, and this is the same thing that happened in the Libercarians,
[SPEAKER_06]: when there's three ways to compete socially, you can compete on social status, like money or morality.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so when the Middle East just got racked by this technology, they descended into like a moral superiority and went increasingly theoretical.
[SPEAKER_06]: But now that you have countries like Saudi Arabia demonstrating that they actually can compete developmentally, especially as Europe is committing cultural suicide, the equation shifts and suddenly the Middle East sees they have an opportunity to compete in another way.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they don't have less.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they choose the vision of Saudi Arabia over Iran.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not just the mechanics of that, but also the public discourse.
[SPEAKER_07]: So you have people that are involved, people at high levels in the Saudi Arabian government and the Bahrain and Oman government, and even the loudest voices are in the Emirates and the UAE talking about, we don't do this terrorism bullshit here.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if we catch you even talking about it, we're going to fuck you.
[SPEAKER_06]: They criticize UK for being too tolerant.
[SPEAKER_06]: On the terrace, at the same time, there's a ton of Muslims in Europe.
[SPEAKER_06]: So they don't want to go to war.
[SPEAKER_06]: with Europe and Chris and dumb and retreat into geodism because they're like, we got a good thing going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just shut up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's very odd.
[SPEAKER_05]: Again, I'm curious how this shakes out because if nothing fucked up happens and they're able to agree with the ceasefire with Iran and Israel and Lebanon and all this other shits,
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a fucking huge win.
[SPEAKER_05]: It does say it is a massive global reset.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a piece in the Middle East.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not, it would be, it's a, it's a joke.
[SPEAKER_07]: And those are like, it's a joke.
[SPEAKER_07]: Those are like, yeah, it's a, they are very anti-WF.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is a joke.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is a, it is a phrase that, that we, if somebody said it, you would laugh at them.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, rap rappers back in the day you say it in the 80s.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I made the prediction like a year and a half or two years ago with Trump.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm hoping it sticks yeah, I mean it but is it just like from Let's just take it from a basic laments perspective here is it just about
[SPEAKER_07]: partnering up with the richest countries in the world to do business with or is this something more no it's about the richest incentives drive-out comes that's for it is that's it incentives drive-out comes you have countries that are dominated by a rule in class for the most part or
[SPEAKER_07]: And look, I don't care for this too much, but there's a lot of indenture servitude and all of the pretty much all of these countries.
[SPEAKER_07]: The ordinary sit, not in Saudi Arabia as much.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, they have it for sure.
[SPEAKER_07]: They have slaves there.
[SPEAKER_07]: But like Kuwait, a normal Kuwaiti person that you were basically born in the purple.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you were born in Kuwait or Bahrain or Oman or the Emirates or anything like that, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't work.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's endo Chinese slave labor basically that works.
[SPEAKER_07]: That part's not great.
[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, they're going to have to modernize at some point because you will create an insurgent class.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you let that persist too long, once you've become successful and start to get more liberal, which they will.
[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, it's a...
[SPEAKER_07]: incentives drive outcomes, you're incentivizing the current rule in class over there to start the process of modernization, which is like put the economics of your country first and then the welfare of your citizens first.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's those are the order that it comes in.
[SPEAKER_07]: The economic infrastructure goes in place and then you realize that you need a middle class, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Right now Arab countries for the most part don't have middle class people they have.
[SPEAKER_07]: a wealthy class that are citizens and they have a poor class that are brought in to do all the work.
[SPEAKER_07]: That won't last.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can't maintain a caste system if you have an open market that's going to cross a region, especially across a global region.
[SPEAKER_07]: It just doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of like, it's funny how there's an advantage to being an oil power, where like, it can go either way, where I've been as well as you can just, or I ran, you can coalesce around that oil, get 50% of it to your army, and then just stay in charge, or on the flip side, like in Saudi Arabia, if your oligarchia is dependent on oil wealth, then you can free the rest of your market and still maintain your level of disproportionate, or not disproportionate of wealth or control over that while having a totally free market.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and I guess for Trump, look, he obviously started this in his first term, is a lot more focused on it in the second term.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I wonder if that was the grand plan from early on when he took office, or if he saw something when he was in there the first term that it was like, all right, I can go back and correct this during the second term because let's face it, all the presidents
[SPEAKER_05]: between them, Biden, Obama, Bush, the other Bush, everybody else, they weren't concerned with that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go back.
[SPEAKER_07]: How far?
[SPEAKER_07]: All the way to the 1950s, Eisenhower should have dealt with this shit, but we didn't have the fucking balls to do it at the time, frankly.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's not all of it is about balls.
[SPEAKER_07]: Part of it is about every U.S. president has been treating the Middle East.
[SPEAKER_07]: Simultaneously is a monolith, but also peace-mealing the fucking strategy, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: We got to deal with this group, we got to deal with that group, we got to deal with this country, we got to deal with that country, and then we need peace in the Middle East though, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: That is those two thoughts or add odds with one another.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're either treated like a monolith or you treat it granular and you can't treat something granular and solve it.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's just not a thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you have cancer in your body, you look for all the cancer, and you find a way to mitigate all of it or treat all of it or whatever you're going to do, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Cut it out.
[SPEAKER_07]: it out as part of it, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: So, and sometimes you do all of those things all at the same time, which is what's fucking happening right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: He Trump is the first U.S. president to treat this as a singular problem with moving pieces that all relate to one another because that's reality, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And
[SPEAKER_06]: It's you can just do things you people don't understand what's possible because they've been their minds have been narrowed down into like these simple Five blue prints of like this is what invasion looks like this is Iraq.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but this was even with immigration though, right like people
[SPEAKER_07]: I've heard from so many center and Democrat people on immigration specifically like, oh, before this latest Trump term, I thought immigration was a problem that we just had a hard time solving.
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't realize it was on purpose.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're talking about fucking died in the world Democrats or telling me, not publicly, obviously.
[SPEAKER_07]: But they're telling me, I didn't realize that they were doing this on purpose and now I do.
[SPEAKER_07]: And literally saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: And for me, as a kid, we were taught that I ran was, you know,
[SPEAKER_05]: horrific and that and they could fucking destroy our country over and over and over again We were taught that about Russia to it, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then you're seeing you know We saw the the Russia Ukraine thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: They can't even defeat a tiny country.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's one with Iran We completely obliterated almost everything they had right including their their fucking leader in what 30 minutes whatever it was And all their guards and then you know, how do you?
[SPEAKER_05]: How do you keep this fear mongering up in the media when we're able to kind of see what's going on through clips and videos and the I think the declassification right of these videos oh yeah it's important is important and it's psychologically when you're able to share it look at it you're like oh fuck
[SPEAKER_07]: It gets passed in fantasizing the voting public, because that's what we do, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like when your kids eat in a crayon like, hey man, you know, you're gonna fucking, a crayon's gonna grow inside your crayon tree is gonna grow inside your fetal stop being cruey.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got cruey, you got cruey.
[SPEAKER_07]: Whatever, stupid shit, you tell kids, it's been the same thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: They've been telling us for all this time that we can't do anything about Russia, we can't do anything about fucking Venezuela, we can't run out of ran, it's like it turns out, we can do it over the fuck we want.
[SPEAKER_05]: But this is the first time I've ever seen in my lifetime.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have the technology.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that's because we didn't we're not getting overly drawn in because the only way we would hurt ourselves is like a soup and suicidal strategy But that doesn't mean we're weaker.
[SPEAKER_06]: It just means that that would be a dumb strategy because there are people with bad motives.
[SPEAKER_06]: They actually want to do that
[SPEAKER_07]: But it doesn't mean we're weaker according to the libertarians.
[SPEAKER_07]: Taco.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_07]: Always chickens out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like if we destroyed all our bases, like we don't want the bases.
[SPEAKER_07]: If we don't send in all of our people all at once into an attrition war, then we're chicken and out.
[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, we won't look.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've spent quite a bit of time at combat and lost more friends as Suicide actually, but over a dozen friends and direct combat.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I don't take this lightly.
[SPEAKER_07]: However, if I said this yesterday, if you told me a year ago or two years ago or five years ago that we could take down Venezuela and take down a ran and lose 13 dudes, I would call you a fucking idiot.
[SPEAKER_07]: But that's precisely what is happening.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the thing is, we won't necessarily be able to do that forever.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, have you heard of the city's trap?
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which is when you have a declining power and a rising power, it's at the point that they meet where the war always happens.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's always started by the declining power.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's because it's their last chance to compete at parity.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you put off the war as long as you can until you're to your last chance to be on top while doing a war.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if we had waited another five years with the way drone and missile technology is changing in the military game is changing, before we had, then Iran would have been able to, with Chinese drone technology create full missile deterrence, where it would have been way too expensive to do what we just did, that would have given them a nuclear shield, that would have made them a globalist pond that could have been used to
[SPEAKER_06]: disrupt every republican president.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would have made them in the least.
[SPEAKER_07]: It would have made them North Korea except that they have access to 50% of the world's oil in that region.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And their technocracy was as aligned with the Obama people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the interesting thing was we play this clip on the show, uh, maybe week, week and a half ago somewhere in there was the only person who was actually running for presidents besides Trump.
[SPEAKER_05]: It said that they would fucking blow up my ran was actually Hillary Clinton.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hillary Clinton has always been a hawk.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, for all the dumb shit.
[SPEAKER_07]: But he specifically singled out our relationship.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she's the Neo-Cons, the old Neo-Cons and the globalist used to be allied.
[SPEAKER_06]: They only reason they would fight is when hard power contradicted with soft power.
[SPEAKER_06]: So somehow, a soft power plan for Iran to bring it, somehow, a hard power plan for Iran.
[SPEAKER_06]: But now, the hard power is not about bringing them into a globalist infrastructure.
[SPEAKER_06]: enabling us to get the hell out of the Middle East like I'm sick of dealing with the storm I want to pull it out I want to get finally Yeah, but I want to deal with the vector for world war three the globalists always you've world war three as like a destabilization threat Because it's probably ultimately going to be would be there only answered to a mouth-thousian trap, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: because if you don't expand your institutions to some property rights, like the surf, give the surfs rights, but then you, and then you have population growth, but then you don't also free up the trades so that they can go somewhere else, then that population growth bottles up, and you get a mouth-thousian trap.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so then you have a revolution where 20% of your population dies,
[SPEAKER_06]: You send another 20% of the young men to die in the Napoleonic Wars after.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now there's enough jobs, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Or you could go free market and innovate into different conditions.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like those, that's the reality of the world.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the left is creating an artificial mouth-dozing trap that they were trying to decrow us out of with economic suicide.
[SPEAKER_06]: So like you could try economic suicide rather than a war, but it's going to get to a war.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's the least popular president of all time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Come on here.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm hearing too.
[SPEAKER_05]: President Donald Trump's approval rating, among Republican voters, is strengthened over the past month, though, according to a new series of polls.
[SPEAKER_05]: The surveys conducted by Quinnipack University, aka Quinnipack and Balls.
[SPEAKER_05]: which is what I know them as, between March and April, Quinnipiac.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it Piac?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's an Indian name anyway, it's a pretty sure they're all dead.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then Elizabeth Warren.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you guys are leaving her out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but yeah, according to March and April show that Trump's net approval rating among Republicans and prove nearly 10 points from 72% to 81% Trump's position with his own party.
[SPEAKER_07]: appears increasingly solid underscoring your widening partisan divide rather than a full broad shift in public opinion Yeah, this is all really interesting to me because you know polls or polls whatever I don't I don't know what to make of most of them to be frank But it's the ones that have been circulating lately
[SPEAKER_07]: are showing not just that Trump is more popular within Republican circles, but also that MAGA itself is growing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like the percentage of Republicans that are MAGA as an organization, if you want to call it that is growing, and then Trump's more, he's the most popular amongst seniors of any president at this point in his term, there's all these other indicators.
[SPEAKER_06]: What are the numbers on MAGA growing?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's up by an 8% Wow, for some reason people make the joke because there's these polls that like Trump has 100% support within maga Trump supporters sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, yeah, that's they assume that that's shrinking, but if that's growing That's very significant and that this with my understanding of like the grillers I think are becoming way more into Trump at the same time that the online people are you getting mad the normal Focus, I just partly why the screaming is getting louder
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I don't know if, like, so who knows what's true or what's not.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, this is a concert with that CNN poll stating the Trump is very popular and that Mago has grown.
[SPEAKER_07]: They've done three different ones over the last month.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: One that Mago is growing to the Trump's more popular, more broadly into these more popular amongst Republicans.
[SPEAKER_07]: Polls are polls, people tend to believe them when they benefit them to believe them.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can make them say whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you learn to, if you're interested in polling, learn to read the cross tabs and find deception in them because you can obviously find it sometimes.
[SPEAKER_07]: The thing that I'm having trouble with right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: obviously beyond just how much stock do you ever put in a poll is why are people who is are historically left and want to damage Trump glazing him so much lately.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's say they're all fake or manipulated or whatever, why CNN do it?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the same, it's weird because it's simultaneously happening as like why are the why still left glazing Nick Fuentes or Candace or Dave or whoever, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's because it makes a republicans look bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Therefore, you're like, hey dude, I want to push the worst people.
[SPEAKER_05]: And associate them with this pussy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_07]: But then what is so some degree by it is like an end.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, and sorry that fucking basically a terrorist who's a representative was like agreeing with Fuentez and these other people, right, openly, like, yeah, I agree with what they're saying.
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, mostly these people just don't like Jews.
[SPEAKER_07]: Although, Bob, go to your Twitter DMs.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, they don't mind Jews at all the more.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just, they think Jews control the world.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to create some resentment.
[SPEAKER_06]: It thinks breakdown because you're blaming the Jews.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's pretty pathetic.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's straight up cuckery.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's Jewish supremacy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you believe the Jews are running the world and that you're the victim of this.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's such defeated energy.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's one thing for black people who were taking over as slaves in a white society to develop that kind of psychosis.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's another thing if you're like a European descendant and you're neglecting your own civilizational trend, but I have some pride.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, a little bit, you know, at least played your own case.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, does this entertain?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this is him talking shit about people who are blaming all the problems on Jews, which is pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, and it play it first, and I'll tell you what I think about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can see, or you can blame the system, blame the banks, blame the Jews.
[SPEAKER_03]: which Jew came to your house and stopped you going to the gym, because you got skinny ass arms, you look like a bitch to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: So which Jew stopped you going to the gym?
[SPEAKER_03]: Hope the Jews control the media, the media make the women not listen.
[SPEAKER_03]: They make the women not listen to you, because they fucking listen to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know why?
[SPEAKER_07]: God.
[SPEAKER_03]: The guns.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but he's not wrong about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like he's he's it's a parody of reality, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but what he's saying is right.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's no there's no intermediary or third party that makes someone disrespect you They disrespect you because you're fat lazy and stupid as I always say, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so this brings it back to this polling thing
[SPEAKER_07]: This is an indicator that the way that people are viewing content and the way it's being monetized is changing because he only cares about money.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, I can tell you for a second.
[SPEAKER_07]: Twint has early in the week said something very similar about stop blaming your problems on Jews, which is a very shocking thing to hear from him.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so it tells you the people that are in this for the money, which all of these guys are are following the money to where it's going, which means that are they getting paid by somebody?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, it's not.
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't have to get paid by anybody to do this stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a tight shift, so it's tricky.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it doesn't mean it's reflected in add dollars.
[SPEAKER_06]: Add dollars are still the other way, but it's in terms of where the voters, where the people are going.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like so Tucker took money from a guitar aid to start his network, but these other guys I don't think they're taking money from some maybe some of them are, but I see no I don't see I can't I don't see any evidence that they're taking any money.
[SPEAKER_07]: I haven't seen any so I'm not going to say that they are And also I don't see the necessity for it because they'll chase the attention and dollars They want legitimacy too.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and relevance.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I want to look stupid as the trend moves on because we're not going to be talking about Israel forever
[SPEAKER_07]: like people don't even talk about Palestine anymore ever since Trump created the peace deal they never mentioned it again and we don't talk about feminism either because three women are about to get executed by Iran I've heard shit from the left it's country now and then all those Christians in Africa so so the tide the tide the
[SPEAKER_07]: the eyeball test is shifting, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And they're shifting with it.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, it makes you wonder, I bet a lot of these dissident people who are trashing Trump right now are gonna fucking jump back on board with the next two.
[SPEAKER_06]: Some of them are trying, and it's like, within the next two months.
[SPEAKER_05]: If he's correct, then I ran.
[SPEAKER_07]: do you think all these people will then not all not all but they will they will find a way to worm their way back in just like they did in twenty four they trash trumped the whole time he was in office first time and then fucking uh uh uh but they like once once the shift happened and the right started dealing with this identitarian bullshit they started going after him too.
[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't until they knew he was going to win that they jumped on board.
[SPEAKER_06]: Guys we give this and rotate some other people maybe
[SPEAKER_06]: Matt Forney or that might not be a good example.
[SPEAKER_06]: He might have been better for me.
[SPEAKER_07]: But against it another one this earlier this week talking shit about people who were blaming the Jews forever.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're the like a bunch of small accounts did it and they did it.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're the last of the last group of shifters that will be able to own the point.
[SPEAKER_06]: Pretty much every shifter from now on is going to have a tough time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because how do you go back?
[SPEAKER_05]: That's uh, I asked his question after calling him a war criminal.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all this up.
[SPEAKER_05]: You abandon us and fucking yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: How how how does it can if someone's come back?
[SPEAKER_05]: How does a fucking talkers come back?
[SPEAKER_05]: How does a talkers come back?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, he's not about Meghan tell it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Meghan Kelly is an interesting question.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's bounced back in fourth.
[SPEAKER_06]: He'll bet he times since and hopefully fewer people will listen to her now.
[SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't die.
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't trust her after the first bounce.
[SPEAKER_06]: I like.
[SPEAKER_06]: Broder out of my mind.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just didn't pay attention to her at all now.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's like making noise again I don't I don't yeah, I don't want to hear about the MSNBC lady who asked about Rosie O'Donnell like I know who you are I don't care about you you're not intelligent go away
[SPEAKER_05]: And also, but David, if you want, sure, if I'm smart enough to, I'm smart enough to see, let's take the Rosia down, I don't think I'm going to miss him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I see.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know what's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't need to watch that interview too.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know what's going to happen in the interview.
[SPEAKER_07]: But Meghan Kelly is an entertaining person, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: And people, she's almost very smart.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's a good understanding.
[SPEAKER_07]: And more than anything, people that are watching that type of content want to be entertained.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why they'll listen to this guy talk shit.
[SPEAKER_07]: Undertale you don't know what he says most of the time is fucking super cuz he's entertaining, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a car.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a train ride now.
[SPEAKER_05]: This one don't give you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think Nick Fendez is entertaining.
[SPEAKER_07]: He is Is it just so radiance the quintess is definitely entertaining.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're like him.
[SPEAKER_06]: I Well, I've been signing the Fuentes warning flag for two years.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like been complaining about him before he went big I saw him in person.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, I know what you're doing
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like four or five years ago because I saw him pretend to be canceled at a freedom fest event to get more publicity Yeah, and but also that he was taking me Like the libertarians didn't realize that they were because they care about Israel so much.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're feeding
[SPEAKER_06]: this movement that's making the new right like national socialists instead of in a more free direction like the boomers are too socialist.
[SPEAKER_06]: The new if the new right isn't anti-socialists were screwed.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nick is not anti-socialist.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nick is like whatever it's me support.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's like glorious empire.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, you could you could I guess the best way to quantify it is post-liberal, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like they they see the power structure and want it for themselves.
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't want to disrupt it or destroy it or go back to the way it was
[SPEAKER_06]: and they can't even do it as sneakily as the left where they're like, I want to be Hitler and like a dictator, even Hitler in his campaign will pretend to like democracy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hitler even pretend to not be Hitler.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't come out and say your Hitler asshole.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and I'll tell you how I found out because this is a story that we've never shared, but in part of it involves Bob and his brosmen of the year here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Milo Yacht-Napos was on the show a long time ago, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: But how long ago?
[SPEAKER_07]: I think the last time was five or six years maybe yeah somewhere in that neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and he texted me He was here with Alex Jones Kanye and Nick Fuentes Do you remember that whole thing with the mask and the I know I drove him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so Anyways, there were my lowest jays running.
[SPEAKER_05]: They were like my lowest running.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was trying to get
[SPEAKER_07]: presidential campaign.
[SPEAKER_05]: But Nick was trying to get Kanye and all these shows to the Hitler thing and all this other shit, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: And Milo texted and he goes, hey man, I don't like this fucking guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, oh, about flintess.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he goes, I'm I'm getting out of here.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was about to do Ross Patterson Revolution.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then Bob was the one who was watching it live unfold.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he goes,
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey dude, that was one with the fuckin' schemas.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he goes, I don't know if the Kanye thing is true, and I was like, yeah, we're thinking about it, and Bob goes, I think you should not do this, and you should turn on what's going on, and luckily we hadn't started the show, so I was able to watch five minutes of it, and it was just fuckin' that shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I can't go to the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: We, yes, we said no, we were all good.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I came out with, on the next episode, wearing the schemas, though, just, yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I support the guys, so I want them around me.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, it's during that period of time, because we couldn't figure out,
[SPEAKER_05]: What the fuck was going on?
[SPEAKER_06]: It would have been a great opportunity to try, well, this is part of the problem, because when they're glorifying national socialism, the libertarians are the Nazis, the libertarians are the ones who should have understood that, hey, the Nazis aren't right-wing and based.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're socialists, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: They destroyed the country and destroyed the German people and their entire eastern diaspora.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Kanye could have been receptive to that, but he was captured in this bubble.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if I talk to Kanye for a week in a summer camp,
[SPEAKER_06]: I would have changed his direction.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's here's some weather he's on.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's my, that was my issue with it.
[SPEAKER_07]: It felt exploitative because I think he was literally mentally having a fucking crash out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I agree.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just to bring him on camera.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like if to talk to him, probably would have been fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: What you guys did was the normal correct decision.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just insane and I think I can convince anyone or I have like some sort I can fix him.
[SPEAKER_06]: I got fixing that's why that's why I said a week in a summer camp because I'm also realistic Yeah, I got a podcast is a little bit of a short time.
[SPEAKER_05]: But luckily Bob was watching it that day and you were the one Bob Who shouted out some of your go ahead to don't through this and I was like why what's going on out?
[SPEAKER_05]: That is it and then I flipped it on Twitter and I was like whoa
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we can't do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to bring this back to the Trump thing though.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I do too before we move on because like the popularity versus the not popularity versus like and the normal actual voter versus the person that's you know, uh, uh, winging and uh, spurging online are two very different groups.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I, I hear from and look, the conditions under which an average person would be upset.
[SPEAKER_07]: are present because the economy is while on the upper trajectory, gas is still high, there's a lot of stuff still high housing, housing sucks, cars a little fucked up, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: There's still stuff to complain about.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's no question about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're making quite a bit of progress and there's a lot of doomsday sayers, dooms, doomsday doomsday doomsday, out there saying stuff like, oh, we haven't even made a dent in immigration 2.6 million people have been removed from this
[SPEAKER_07]: What, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's probably about an eighth of what we need to get rid of maybe 10% TV TV we'll see like we really don't know but when there's 350 million people in the country and it's not your backyard Yeah, and you don't see it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you don't think it's making a dent, but like we always making a dent I live in a Mexican neighborhoods like people are just a parent.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey dude, I we
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got friends on this other shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had my car fucking stolen and they busted the Trandellaragua that right I always joke around about on the show They actually busted them over and drink drinks.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I got 27 and one fucking 32 down in San Antonio.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not only are they going after people and that's like the visible metric right But the more important thing is if you just start treating the country like a regular country where if you don't have a visa You'll get discovered through various means and then push down
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, and then if you develop this expectation that you can't stay here without a visa, that change is everything, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because you get the illegal stuff, but you get that out and then the set of structures getting tightened up, and then if you keep this, if you keep this policy going for 12 years, there will be no unleft.
[SPEAKER_06]: that's illegal.
[SPEAKER_05]: In DHS, by the way, I was talking about the declassification of some of these videos of the bombings and everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: DHS is doing a really good job messaging, especially on Facebook and Twitter.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, ever since I'm in a soda, they didn't handle that terribly well.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, but afterwards they started posting pictures, what the people did, why they got deported and I see in most of my feeds scattered around throughout the days and I'm like, oh shit, I didn't know that was going on.
[SPEAKER_07]: But still the only reports on the average person, it's economy and then security, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Economy and you can, I would include quality lives on that too, but I would include quality life in the economy because that's typically the indicator for it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's, we are re-industrializing, it is a, it is a work in progress, though, and a lot of industries are changing right now, and some people are getting laid out, some people are getting left behind, and it is that we're in a transitory period right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I got to understand why people would be butt heard about it for sure, and then justifiably, so I'm not like talking to them.
[SPEAKER_06]: In the areas that he's focused on like energy, he's been absolutely killer, but he's just one guy He can't focus on every department like health and construction everything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so like we need more specific targeted deregulation And doge is active.
[SPEAKER_06]: I spoke to the doge guys like the head IT people as they were setting it up It was always the plan to integrate within the agency is the doge close the doge close thing is completely fake news
[SPEAKER_06]: and they are using AI and I've created like the decision trees that are being plugged into the AI to cut regulations in the government.
[SPEAKER_06]: And meanwhile, I'm like your black billing.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is not Hillary's, you know, White House.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so there's indicators that polling could be bad.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of people that actually pay attention.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of indicators that look like things could be really good as well, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: You could see both sides for the average person who's struggling though I understand why they would be angry about it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Are we dealing with a more informed more Educated electorate because these poles are higher and they see the things that are happening and they're ignoring the fucking black pills shit Are they just not exposed to all the black pills shit or is it not as bad out there as we think it is?
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know the
[SPEAKER_06]: are they blaming other people and not getting involved locally because there's only so much the federal government can do with the states of basically copied all the federal regulations or all of them or back to the original point are the polls full of shit and if so why are they glazing Trump instead of attack right like going into the making overconfident would be the yeah I guess I think that's that's not that's not real I think it's just like
[SPEAKER_06]: the data and it's kind of, it doesn't mean it doesn't mean Trump's going to win or not for CNN to say that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure what the correlation is, like we'd have to explore that.
[SPEAKER_06]: It might be a no impact thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: it could also be a sale to Warner Bros. Oh, yeah, it's not every else in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, you're completely right.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're like impartiality.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it's very curious.
[SPEAKER_07]: The whole thing is very curious to me because I could understand how polling could be bad and I could understand how it could be good as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the key point also is that you,
[SPEAKER_06]: Almost always lose the midterms.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think the parties won the midterms.
[SPEAKER_06]: There may there's been two times this happened in the last 100 years.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's you win the president's game.
[SPEAKER_07]: Obama and Bush both did.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so it's a recent, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, wait, we've had this debate.
[SPEAKER_07]: Obama did one of his two, right, terms, and Bush did, I think, Bush did both.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, also Iraq.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, you're super unpopular by O6, O6, O6, O6, O6, O6, O6, O6, O4, got him.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, so Trump can just start the Iran war and then he'll win the midterm.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just like he said Obama would do or Biden would do or something.
[SPEAKER_06]: He said Trump in 2014 accused Obama of starting a war with Iran to win the next election.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just kind of ironic.
[SPEAKER_06]: But Trump's war is very different.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not like a bog down war that forces the people to get behind you, which is what that point is illustrating for when you create a like a national security crisis.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the bell weather for me personally will be this June primary in California.
[SPEAKER_05]: If the Republicans take the top two seats for governor, and then you start to see a shift in maybe mayor for Los Angeles, and with Spencer Pratt here to come on the show, they would be wild to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's either English guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, he's Steve Helden.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Steve Helden.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's running for Goblin.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's running for Governor.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's running for Mayor of Los Angeles against Karen Bass and obviously she's in her horrific job.
[SPEAKER_05]: News seems out of there.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if you get two Republicans in there, because that's one of those states where it's top two doesn't matter which party you're in, if there's two top Republicans in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's going to be real fucking interesting than what he say to the nation.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know much about Hilton and his background aside from being an entertainer and shit like that, but he's Britain.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but Bianco is like a he's been on the show.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he's he's really he's pretty conservative.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, like, there's a California sheriff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but there's a California Republican that's basically Ronald Reagan, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like Amnesty for illegal immigrants type of guy and Bianco has made some comments that I didn't particularly care for with regard to immigration as well, but he's pretty like by the book fiscal conservative guy, right, which is not the kind of conservative you typically get in California.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it would be interesting to see how that all plays out because he's still polling
[SPEAKER_07]: first or second depending on the poll and you're talking about 15 to 17 percent in that range.
[SPEAKER_07]: But again, Katie Porter by the end of this month will be out of that race in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, I'm going to have to fucking get her out of there.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll see it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Otherwise, Tom Stier can't wait to do boring.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was going to say the interesting part here is the numbers.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, take these poles with a grain of soil, which you're talking about earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: The numbers are so low for all of these candidates that it ranges like Steve Hilton right now is in the lead, but it's like 17%.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what it's been and he's like, okay, is that enough to do anything like I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's 27% undecided too, that's not real.
[SPEAKER_06]: The only thing that gave me confidence that a Republican could win is when I started listening to him talk and it came out British because the only way a Californian will elect a Republican is if he's a foreigner.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm serious.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, it's like, it takes away all the, you're a deplorable, you're a redneck energy.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the left can't have that by it kills one of their main bias, you know, vectors.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because this is how you can tell that they're all racist.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because Larry Elder didn't get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's another guy right here that we've never talked about on this show, Bissera.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is last name.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he is currently, if you believe the polls tied with Katie Porter on the Democratic side.
[SPEAKER_05]: it's 10% of peace.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know who the fuck that he was pulling it like 2% before swallol got out.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, and then he's just a statistic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Does another Democrat in their mat's man who says he holds like 5% of the voters?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how that is.
[SPEAKER_07]: They will, I'm telling you, when the election happens, it's going to be styrole when probably like 35% of it and he'll be one of the guys in.
[SPEAKER_07]: And now I think it'll be one of the two Republicans as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, interesting.
[SPEAKER_07]: California politics are completely, I, to me, it's all rigged out.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think that even folks are going to be real at all, dude.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Next up, we got some Charlie Kirk sassin updates.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Utah judge overseeing the case against Charlie Kirk's accused sassin Tyler Robinson has unsealed a ballistic report from the federal bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms and explosives that could conclusively match a bullet fragments to the suspected murder weapon but confirmed a match.
[SPEAKER_05]: with this spent casing here.
[SPEAKER_07]: So there's a lot of new updates from this.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the first one is we've confirmed now that it was a 30 caliber bullet.
[SPEAKER_07]: We've also confirmed a 30 caliber, which would include a number of different, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: 30 cow obviously through and the weapon in question of K98, 30 out six.
[SPEAKER_07]: Also that the bullet fragmented, which I know the online sluice didn't want that to be the case, but it is.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's pretty typical, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, it depends, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: But let's do a lot of weird shit.
[SPEAKER_07]: It depends on the round, the weight, like the grain size.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was the JFK conspiracy.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's typical.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you're just going to like to these people, you're just going to sound like you're rationalizing if you explain it, which is
[SPEAKER_06]: It's totally typical because like reality is always stranger than fiction, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And there's a bunch of things that happen in reality that are impossible to explain.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it's like a more of a rare reaction to a bullet going in.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's the same thing that happened with MLK, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: It went into his face and then it deflected and went down.
[SPEAKER_06]: So if you deflect and go down, you're going into the body.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can deflect and go a lot of different ways.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you deflect and go down, it can absorb that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, my buddy got shot here by a 762 by a five one sniper round and it's bigger than this shot here bullet hit the spine right there at the top and went down cut off like chopped off the top of his heart basically came out down here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he's a totally dot.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like that fucked up shit like that happens, but let's stick to the facts here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_07]: Prosecutes alleged that separate testing found DNA consistent with Robinson's on the gun, on the towel that was nearby, and on three of the four rounds inside of the weapon that they recovered.
[SPEAKER_07]: The testing material includes a deformed or damaged piece of the bullet jacket, as well as four led fragments.
[SPEAKER_07]: From inside, it was attached in part as an exhibit alongside a defense motion filed under seal on January 9th.
[SPEAKER_07]: They were trying to, they asked the judge to block the government from further testing until the defense expert had a chance to examine the photographic evidence.
[SPEAKER_07]: But there's no basis for that.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's the ATF, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: and they also found a palm print on the building.
[SPEAKER_07]: that they've got for, I mean, like, so here's, it's overwhelming evidence at this point.
[SPEAKER_07]: So now the shift, the pivot, and I've seen like, the guys at Phoenix ammunition are not huge fans of the government.
[SPEAKER_07]: They won't even sell, they won't sell to the government.
[SPEAKER_07]: They won't sell to police, they won't sell to the military anybody, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: They won't only sell to American citizens, they won't sell to foreigners, nobody.
[SPEAKER_07]: call that what you want.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're their hardcore guys.
[SPEAKER_07]: And they are, um, I would say, don't like the idea of America being friends with any foreign country, but like Israel included, right, however, constantly making fun of anybody who questions this narrative.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I why the guy was posting about it this morning, like Mandy guys must be really but hurt.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because you're all fucking idiots whatever blah blah blah and all the like a decent portion 20 to 40% of the comments are Oh, so we just trust the government now like oh my god And he said it through and he made the point that I always make okay, which is like okay We just don't nobody believes in anything ever again.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because that those are your options right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I think it's the same the reason I even brought this up is because I think it's the same as the Epstein stuff
[SPEAKER_07]: There's a couple of possibilities here, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: One is that all the files were destroyed that show all the evidence of all the stuff that people think happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: But there's not been one piece of evidence produced that shows any kind of pedophilia.
[SPEAKER_07]: Other than maybe some stuff that happened just with Epstein at a ranch somewhere in Arizona, but nothing with no, when you say pedophilia, 17-year-old is not pedophilia, okay?
[SPEAKER_07]: And maybe people are trafficked, Galine Maxwell got,
[SPEAKER_07]: uh, uh, fucking, and he died it, and, and, and found guilty of it, certainly.
[SPEAKER_07]: But this whole overarching narrative that there is a cabal of people drinking kids' bloods and, and raping little kids, and that it's being used by our government or a foreign government to blackmail people, it's like, okay, that, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I really want somebody to do a documentary on where all this sprouted from, because I believe a lot of it myself too.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like sure, but it's not in a government database at the FBI, that the next administration and the FBI director is going to be able to pull that and like, oh, look, these are all the global plans that they left on this computer for.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, you're left now with this situation where, and I look, I don't know, maybe stuff did happen, but I haven't seen any evidence of it, and I'm going to need to, regarding
[SPEAKER_05]: Either way, it's this is probably Kirk from day one.
[SPEAKER_05]: This you and I have said on this show.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: This seems like alone.
[SPEAKER_05]: Godman and this is it and I don't I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to dive in it because I have no I have no problem with diving into conspiracies about Charlie Kirk just like Butler, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a whole lot of Butler.
[SPEAKER_06]: I can there's a lot of reasons to be suspicious to somebody would help these people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: This out for whatever reason.
[SPEAKER_06]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if you're going for like outcomes razor.
[SPEAKER_06]: then that person is not going to be Israel right who like Charlie Kirk was the best friend of and we could see his Was that really Charlie Kirk's reaction to the was he was he with Israel like was that is that?
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, yeah, so like his reaction to the 12 day war kind of tells you everything You need to know right because Charlie like me has been against a war with Iran and when we're talking about a war with Iran We're mainly speaking in terms of like
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... iraqi troops on the ground and vision long one is other things that are happening that trumps doing are not part of like the public imagination or the narrative because he's making them up and he's doing romantakis we weren't talking about any that stuff we were talking about bombings like he's already bomb so money this is a little bit more extreme than that but we've already had the conversation about this episode right so it is what it is and uh... like
[SPEAKER_06]: whatever Charlie was it was just like Trump, just like the YouTube ad buys in Candace, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Trump and Charlie were threats of the left.
[SPEAKER_06]: Candace is not like so if anybody killed Charlie, it would have been the left.
[SPEAKER_06]: The same people that tried to kill Trump.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like obviously Charlie's death led to a complete destruction of the intellectual sphere on the right, like the podcast, airy, and sphere.
[SPEAKER_06]: like he was the only thing keeping it together.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he was desperately trying to extend all of branches to be as reasonable and open-minded as possible and hear people's concerns and like keep the thing together.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that's what he was trying to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was trying to keep the thing together for Trump.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what he said after the 12th day of worries.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, listen, I support Trump.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's my friend.
[SPEAKER_06]: I trust the man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, okay, that's who Charlie is.
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, sure, somebody may have been involved in Killingham besides the loser who did it, but that would have been the left, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And a lot of podcasts have this reaction where they, everybody knows that if you criticize Trump, you're not a threat to the people who might kill you.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're not a threat to the people who control ad buys.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if you,
[SPEAKER_06]: If you support Trump, then if the Dems win, you might get screwed.
[SPEAKER_06]: You might get started by the IRS.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I've seen this time and time again, especially with Trump's first election, talking to like, these really rich guys, I'm really tempted to name the companies, but I won't.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the owners of them who are like, well, I understand the civilizational threat of the left.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I understand this or that.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I don't want to get IRS scrutiny of Trump loses.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the same thing these podcasters are doing.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's pathetic, it's cowardly, it's postmodern level of patheticness.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'd like to see some like real Americans believe in something.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's why I appreciate that you guys sell drinks, because it means that you can say whatever you want.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, I want people to be able to, like you've got to be able to maintain a righteous and but reasonable and logical critique of government.
[SPEAKER_07]: You have to, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Otherwise, like if you, even if you black pill and treat it like the big bad bogey man, it happens in the same way as this Jewish supremacy stuff, which is that, well, it becomes in your mind.
[SPEAKER_07]: It becomes in your mind a problem too big to solve.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean, which is not true.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, that's like Hoppa's analysis, where he takes the Marxist analysis of a press or press, and he applies it to state-first non-state actors, but then you're forgetting that you're like enveloped within this larger society, and even if like purely voluntary society is the ultimate evolution of humanity, which we don't know, because all we know is the more voluntary gets the more functioning the system that's all we know so far, whether that's a totalizing dynamic or a maximizing dynamic, we don't know, it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_06]: But like that's if you take that truth and then twist it into this thing where you're like
[SPEAKER_06]: want to just push a red button, then you become functionally no different than a Marxist, but if your goal is just to dismantle a system.
[SPEAKER_06]: And what's going to arise in that vacuum?
[SPEAKER_07]: We have no idea.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not going to be a dream mark.
[SPEAKER_06]: You capitalists might write a bottom up kind of grudge.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like it because I'm not a big conspiracy guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's where I live in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I've said this forever.
[SPEAKER_05]: Charlie Kirk, I don't think it's a conspiracy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry I don't.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shot wasn't very far away.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: uh... the descriptions we had on that day and everybody who came on and describe the shot and everything else didn't seem like a professional it's way less likely than butler yes i think i think there's actually i think there's absolutely something going on with butler i do to what i don't believe is that trump just let it go yeah i'm trying to kill him and he just let it go by the god the guy who fucking wishes death on people uh... this is the but actually create death on people people expect that like oh
[SPEAKER_06]: If Cash Patel hasn't discovered the mystery of the Butler shooting, then that means that he's in on it too.
[SPEAKER_06]: What makes you think being the FBI director is going to let you in on a sophisticated plot.
[SPEAKER_06]: You only have a little bit of a kind of...
[SPEAKER_06]: You just have to deny or say something like, oh, I thought that was the protocol or I made a mistake at that one level and then everything else from there has cut off and you have no idea who was contacting the book after that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's no point in pulling off a deep state operation like that if it's going to just trace right back to you, you're not going to put it in the FBI file cabinet.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, a long time ago when you knew this and this and this and it's worse than everybody thinks and what I said at the time is still true Well after words rather About him and Bondi and a number of these other people that made public statements Bondi know included by the way.
[SPEAKER_07]: They were either lying when they said they knew something or they're lying now and it's more likely that they were lying when they said they knew something in my opinion Just let's see get
[SPEAKER_07]: The story going and get their names out because they thought it was ammunition Against the enemy that they perceive, which is the left right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, because we all associated at least I did And a few guys feel the same whenever I heard Epstein in the past.
[SPEAKER_05]: I associate with a cleanse, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then all the sudden all this other shit comes out and then both sides are using whatever selected pictures They want everything else.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't know what to believe on that one if they're Is a crazy conspiracy out there that one all side with and be like great I just want to hear it and kind of understand it, but yeah, nobody's really given a good argument for either side Right or left about Epstein God
[SPEAKER_06]: But forget about the connections and the people and the red dots and the strengths.
[SPEAKER_06]: What was Epstein's mission?
[SPEAKER_06]: What was he working for?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, let's bring it back to an incentive level.
[SPEAKER_06]: Epstein was working for global government.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was working for the WF cartel.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do they want to do?
[SPEAKER_06]: They want to standardize regulations and tax rates between countries.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let the developing ones catch up a little bit, but then bring the man and standardize it.
[SPEAKER_06]: That prevents another country from going so free market that competition goes there.
[SPEAKER_06]: That means every country's independent oligarchy is insulated from competition.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the structure they're building, and what that does is according to socialists theory, that prevents a race to the bottom.
[SPEAKER_06]: Towards people lowering their taxes to get it in
[SPEAKER_06]: in reality capitalism leads to improvements.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's all false.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was their mission.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maxwell was the number one was one of the number one accounts on Reddit on world news when it was the most traffic site.
[SPEAKER_06]: Her Maxwell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, going herself.
[SPEAKER_06]: Elaine, just laying Maxwell.
[SPEAKER_06]: She was promoting all this globalist stuff, this WF stuff, this climate stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were working with regimes that were aligned towards those ends.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were working with the technocrats and Iran who wanted that
[SPEAKER_06]: That like this was their mission right so if you want to see who's aligned with Epstein Who's against Epstein you look at who's advancing that mission and who's deconstructing it But it's been constructing their entire vision.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can buy in all of that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the only thing that I have a hard time with is is to believe these two people Yeah
[SPEAKER_05]: were had to have been hired by somebody.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, they were the masterminds behind this.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were one of a million people working on this project.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's what people did about the code and all these fucking photos that we see all over the world.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when I say all over the world, I'm talking about Russia too.
[SPEAKER_05]: The ones that are Russia were wild to me that I had never seen as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then with different people, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, okay, why them versus a politician.
[SPEAKER_05]: I could have a lot more sense.
[SPEAKER_06]: If I asked people for photos, I could have had,
[SPEAKER_06]: have as many folks.
[SPEAKER_07]: We all can I can I can I offer you a somewhat silly but I think salient comparison you you you're not really a game of thrones person right no I watch the pilot in the finale but little finger is who you're describing he's a he runs a brothel he comes from no money right
[SPEAKER_07]: He comes from nothing, but he's a very wealthy man and runs.
[SPEAKER_07]: He satisfies the perverse appetites of the ruling class.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is an archetype throughout all of human history.
[SPEAKER_07]: Epstein is not the first guy to do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: So when people... That's another guy.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like a thousand.
[SPEAKER_07]: Even right now, there's a thousand.
[SPEAKER_07]: You just don't know the fucking name, because they're smarter than he was, I guess.
[SPEAKER_07]: Or not as, or maybe they're lucky or who knows.
[SPEAKER_07]: But people still have this...
[SPEAKER_07]: understanding of the whole that the entire concept of Epstein to them is trafficking kids.
[SPEAKER_07]: and I've never seen any evidence for that, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why don't you come up with some young kids?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, certainly some older teenage women, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Our older teenage girls is calling that.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's still legal.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's still still predatory still legal.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I'm glad he's fucking dead.
[SPEAKER_06]: Still bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: All that stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: However, it's not what you're saying it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's be clear, is it kids chained in the basement?
[SPEAKER_06]: Or is it like, yeah, is it?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: But the reality of it, and I've been saying this for a fucking year now at least, the more interesting part about it is his connections to the intelligence community, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: The fact that he was ad not Kishogi's financial fixer during the Iran-Consourist scandal.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's meaningful to me because it means he's hooked up with a kind of government that we've been running since
[SPEAKER_07]: the 1950s, really, where we started recruiting a post-OSS, where we started recruiting all these dudes who worked in oil and gas from fucking Ivy League colleges to go out into the world and be our fucking spies while still making money for his show.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, so yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there is, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it's like, we've been doing this for a long time, and that part of it, the political corruption, because think about the root of it, think about America's foreign policy from
[SPEAKER_07]: and how fucking stupid it all was and how self-defeating it seemed and all this other stuff and how infiltrated it felt all the time and how just blunder after blunder after blunder.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I want to know about.
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to know about Epstein's involvement in this stuff about other people like him that are involved with whether it's sexual or not.
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to know how my government has been captured by globalist actors.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not just the shiny object of some fucking like sex cult cabal.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't want to mean that's because the Intel community was working for the global corporate cartel because they're just like a mercenary Intel Yeah, I mean James Angleson was a deputy director of the CIA and helped France get fucking nukes to Israel It'll be real right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and these guys have the corporations have all the money and those so the CIA is the security service for them to do We know what they want it what Trump is done is miraculously
[SPEAKER_06]: it actually hilarious because one of the reasons why there's so much focus on Israel is one because no matter what, if you switch the opinion on Israel, you split the Republicans because almost the vast majority of the support for Israel is on the Republican side.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's even in jail coalitions.
[SPEAKER_06]: They support to attack.
[SPEAKER_07]: Even in jail coalitions support Israel more than American Jews do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Percentage wise.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not in jail coal.
[SPEAKER_06]: the good ones, even though they're the ones that get most of the I are from people who are supposed to age Jews.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like forget all that hypocrisy, but I forget where I was going with that, which is Intel, Intel, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is the hilarious irony of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: All the other reasons Israel gets so much attention whether YouTube is monetizing people who criticize Israel is that Israel used to work with the U.S.
[SPEAKER_06]: The U.S.
[SPEAKER_06]: was the biggest presenter of this globalism, this WF project.
[SPEAKER_06]: Israel's intel community and Israel is a country.
[SPEAKER_06]: They worked with us, especially on the radio.
[SPEAKER_06]: Worked with Hillary, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: They worked with us.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now,
[SPEAKER_06]: Israel realized, oh, I'm being protested in every European country.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I'm being protested in every leftist campus.
[SPEAKER_06]: When they create this global infrastructure to bring everybody on, they're going to throw us under the bus just like South Africa, and we're going to be screwed.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'd rather make a bet
[SPEAKER_06]: on a strong independent capitalist US than a dying WF system that's eventually going to throw me under the button.
[SPEAKER_06]: Guaranteed because of ideological things and they're looking at Malay and the intellectual environment is changing and they're realizing that like free markets work and that what Ronald Reagan said was a free market wasn't actually a free market and we need to go more hardcore.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they see this opportunity, they're like, oh, shit, if you go free market, you can become so strong.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you think you lose care about money?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're smart.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they've figured it out, and people realize, like, this is the libertarian talking point.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is the libertarian talking point, and gets the neocons.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like, if you want to be secure,
[SPEAKER_06]: You get a free market.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're going to be so much more technologically advanced.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're going to be a space.
[SPEAKER_06]: You put a gun on your spaceship.
[SPEAKER_06]: But then you do what I like.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can overwrite this entire landscape.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can use an EMP.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can be Cortez versus the Aztecs.
[SPEAKER_06]: It all comes down to your level of development.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so Israel figured that out.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so what you have is that the anti-globalist Intel community,
[SPEAKER_06]: You know the five eyes of the US and then you had Israel and you're saying it flips and England and my six right They don't listen to us like when we tell Israel not to bomb my ran when we have to establish air superiority And they had their biggest ever bomber fleet over Tehran in the 12 day war and they turned it around
[SPEAKER_06]: When we were negotiating with Russia, and my sex worth worked with Ukraine to bomb Russia's fleet inside their fucking country, okay?
[SPEAKER_06]: So like, that's a difference in these relationships.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, one is trying to destabilize us, one is not.
[SPEAKER_06]: And,
[SPEAKER_06]: So Israel was legitimately incentivized to turn against the globalists.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are even our own intel agency is split 50-50.
[SPEAKER_06]: Europe and UK and the Commonwealth are entirely pro-globalists.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_06]: Trump couldn't even appoint anybody at this year.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's allowed to appoint one person.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tom Cotton wouldn't even let him do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so, like, who do you think tells Trump more information, Mossad or the CIA?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, he can probably tell, Mossad could probably tell Trump who the main people are of relevance at the CIA or what they're up to.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't want to show them the CAA too much because half of them are realizing this, half of them are like the military is on our side and they realize that they can't do anything with the functioning supply chain.
[SPEAKER_07]: So are the so's ground branch, maritime branch, like the fucking operators in CIA are pretty conservative as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is real politics.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the people online are chasing narratives and collecting YouTube dollars and not being a threat to the left and being total pussies.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's pretty much the size of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're making noise, but they're not making any impact really.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Last story here is a red flag wall, Lieutenant Governor commits murder suicide here.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was a wild story that I woke up to, a former Democratic Virginia.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax killed his wife and then himself and a shocking murder suicide early Thursday morning, according to Fairfax County Police Department.
[SPEAKER_05]: Justin Fairfax shot and killed shot several times and killed his wife ran into a different part of the home and then killed himself with the same fire arm.
[SPEAKER_05]: He just got unseen said the police chief Kevin Davis during a press conference.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a morning police revealed a 911 call shortly after bidnights from Fairfax's Teenage Sun.
[SPEAKER_05]: Fairfax's killing comes amid reported marital disputes.
[SPEAKER_05]: I heard that they were going currently going through a divorce.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there was a court hearing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Both kids were in that house.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that true?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's been such a weird thing, so they're going through a divorce.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's accused her a couple times one time, specifically, that she was hitting him, or beating him up, or some bullshit like that, and they have cameras in their house, so the judge fucking subpoena the camera footage, and it never happened, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: So he's crazy guy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, gosh, just probably low T usually that'll drive somebody crazy like that low T high T. Yeah, but also leftism leftism Fuck your brain out.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean like you you got to think about Think about what persisting and delusion for that amount of time really does to your brain You know what I mean it I'm the grace of that's the default of most that's the default of most human populations because you're saying leftism right and like
[SPEAKER_06]: the values that are positive in the West that are counter to leftism are actually really rare globally.
[SPEAKER_06]: So everyone else that like for through pretty much all human history is to you'd has a psychological disorder.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, at least cognitive dissonance.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because that's what consciousness, the development of consciousness means is like improved psychology.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like they're literally like impaired like a terrible story of a, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I think it's a good indicator.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, this is a tragedy, obviously, for the family.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it's a good indicator that people who try to, as he was talking about social structures earlier, you can be great at something, you can succeed, be wealthy, powerful, or whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: Or you can more lies and these more lies people.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're the sneaky fuckers in society These ones that are clutching pearls and saying oh, you can't say that They are always fucked just like this guy.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's something underneath the surface of these people Nobody's out there trying to take other people's rights away because they're a good person Yeah, this is a very bizarre story to wake up.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, nobody's out there trying to fucking like
[SPEAKER_07]: uh, uh, uh, limit human production and stop.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to know energy like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: James Togliano, that, yeah, he has a Democrat sender who pretends to be a Christian.
[SPEAKER_06]: This says it is leftist like Taurico.
[SPEAKER_06]: He has vampire teeth.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're talking about that guy.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's how I got the one that's running for that guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: I sent it here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't necessarily think he's done anything wrong.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think he looks like a fuck a pedophile to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he would.
[SPEAKER_05]: He is just too smart.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was a Republican thing and they've got miles of fucking video in this guy that they've got a drop during.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's all he's a preacher.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a leftist.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like Jesus.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's trans and old.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's a Christian.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is why hate when libertarians team up with Zhang and Dugin and all these, they're inverting things that I care about a lot, like the Calvinist connection to progressivism.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're putting that on the founders to deliginimize the founders rather than like
[SPEAKER_06]: letting you know where the U.S. went wrong and how we can fix it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like they're inverting everything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sick.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's just I think to any like anybody that's out there trying to more like moral high road people like this, especially when it comes to politics specifically, that's not a good person.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that's a, maybe there are a couple but it's a really good bread flag that you should pay attention to that person.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't have anybody good running in this state.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can tell you that.
[SPEAKER_05]: on the other side of Texas, it's one of his way worse than I should be doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because you got corn in on the other sides, he's up against Paxton and they're in a special election.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what happens when you fucking hate corn in the Paxton's got a million skeletons in his closet as well that the Democrats are out of bounds.
[SPEAKER_07]: Paxton is basically our Victor Orban.
[SPEAKER_05]: This has become, this by the way, because I was looking at the numbers really this morning, is it going to be one of the most expensive Senate races in the country for the midterms?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they think the Dems can actually think
[SPEAKER_05]: They can flip it and with Tala Rico.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they can't win.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't know how off the reservation this guy isn't in the in the miles of videotape There's this whole thing he's he's I'm I'm not woke because I'm Christian.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah No, but he's well, he's Presbyterian.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, he's super woke Christian and he's not saying that stuff now But he's set it in the past.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, yes, and they've got all the the receipts They're he's inverted Christianity like I said earlier, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's what communism is
[SPEAKER_05]: There's saving the best videos for the last, because by the way, I don't know if you're from Texas or not, but that's what they did in the last election to Alred.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, it was at one commercial, remember the one commercial that got on the screen?
[SPEAKER_05]: The football commercial that got on the screen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look on the check to the ground.
[SPEAKER_06]: The problem with Texas is there's too many Germans.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's more Germans than people realized, which makes it politically more like closer to...
[SPEAKER_05]: Michigan here then I didn't want at least that elements of somebody told me that uh... it was just a bunch of them across just flips and said hey will republican and we can run run like that and that's just you're gonna vote well i've been looking at some of the districts and maybe it's different because it's in Austin
[SPEAKER_06]: but like the candidates for Republican and one area are a leftist city council member from California who to her credit fought COVID from the very beginning and like a big county of LA or something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Actually she was the right choice.
[SPEAKER_06]: The other one was like a Mexican X prostitute who claimed she was trafficked or maybe she was or whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: with like a bunch of makeup on and like not a very these are the these are the Republicans.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, it's not great.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not great.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're in a non-competitive environment.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not a good idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, Harrison's the only one that I like in the state, but like that's for another day here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, now is the one that's show we get to the drinking bro over the week.
[SPEAKER_05]: You've been on before.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, it's why I don't know if they're still here.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'd a bunch of listeners here earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're actually fans of yours.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why they came here today.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we open up the doors and let our listeners come and watch all the shows Drink hearty have seltser and all that other stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you have a real job or you'll allow to come up or no?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, coming up.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's the only reason I'm here really.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, message me on Twitter
[SPEAKER_05]: and said this was your last show shut the night it's not it's yeah well it's one of them yeah yeah it's like are you guys doing a party or something yeah should I come we had a we had a blow up party at Christmas we had a Christmas party so we hired a creed cover band
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was a fucking blast.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's amazing people here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can come around Dan and you swap out with him and then Bob, if you'll go to drinkabros.com That's where you can typically submit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, we'd love to have you in studio so you can do it live here.
[SPEAKER_05]: But the website is...
[SPEAKER_05]: been updated a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got new shirts.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got cell phone cases.
[SPEAKER_05]: The crank owner ones are doing really well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, I have one right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: So this is just your average geostradamus.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you got the trinket bros leering shirts.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is those leering shirts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Crush it almost.
[SPEAKER_05]: It almost didn't pull those shirts crush first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the the bro box by the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are the everybody loves the new bro box with the the masters and the golf balls and all those stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: They were like, holy shit, these are really nice and it was like, yeah, the next one is those chairs so those chairs that everybody loves like year and a half ago We were able to get those back and those are in the next box so order those now, but there's a limit and once they once we hit it, that's it's super fucking hard to get because they're wide
[SPEAKER_05]: and they can all tall boys and shit in them and we're gonna make them different colors and everything in the last one.
[SPEAKER_05]: But thanks for coming into the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: You were here earlier for Ross Paners from Evolution.
[SPEAKER_05]: What's your name?
[SPEAKER_04]: My name's Joe Gefford.
[SPEAKER_05]: Joe.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go, Joe.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, thanks Austin.
[SPEAKER_05]: Joe, you listen to Joe, put that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mike and each of your face.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is.
[SPEAKER_04]: So did you come in specifically?
[SPEAKER_04]: So kind of a weird thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm one of your guys' biggest fans.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I'm just gonna put it out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think 2020 is probably when I started listening to it, but it might turn me on to it and I work from an outside sales, I'm an HFAC person, and so my day is filled with just driving around.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have the endless time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was talking about Rogan earlier, I was like, who is the time listener for our show?
[SPEAKER_04]: Outside sales people do okay, so you know it's podcasts and in Pandora basically because I'm old school So I like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've Pandora struck up a friendship with Austin and what do you what do you think of the show so far compared to the regular shows?
[SPEAKER_06]: Did I make it better or worse?
[SPEAKER_04]: We never have guests on figure so what really in sales in sales we don't we don't say Let me be honest.
[SPEAKER_04]: We say let me be frank.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so you and Dan sitting here together for like the last two hours It's been like pornography for me
[SPEAKER_04]: from a geopolitical standpoint, I really respect your very smart and your very intellectual and you do the other podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's very one-o-two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let me plug that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what I really like about you personally is that.
[SPEAKER_04]: your partner in crime.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's very, very smart and individual, but you break it down.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you can digest it as a normal human being.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so that's really what I appreciate about you.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I appreciate so about you.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, and then Dan same deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very straightforward.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ross, you're great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I identify with both of you guys, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: I grew up in the Northwest.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know identify as Celtic I also like yeah, and by the way, I'm also not afraid to say that I don't know something Like you don't care about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just like all right cool man if we can learn something today Let's do it rather than so oh man.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm though of the authority and anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm not let's dig in on it Yeah, and let's find out and if I don't know the fucking answer that I'll ask my guests
[SPEAKER_06]: We're my co-hosts or whoever we don't want to dilly around on like the first three episodes of survivor where the like the loudest guy takes the leadership We want to write we're skip to episode 20 where the guy who demonstrates that he knows was something's going on And then listen to him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and that's what I love about podcasting every day is when I walk into work
[SPEAKER_05]: It's usually asked in the gym.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what I'm getting into.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what I will learn, what I don't know, what I do know or some weird insights to whatever topic is going on.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's why I never get sick of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because every day,
[SPEAKER_05]: is a winding road that Cheryl Crow said that but we're getting a little bit closer to feeling fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: It goes to say that as well, but you really do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cheryl Crow said a lot of stuff, including about toilet paper.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's a date certainly in terms of insurance.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Eric Clapton.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was also Rosie Adonald's only redeeming moment.
[SPEAKER_06]: Was it really?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she was she responded to Cheryl Crowe and said she said lady have you seen how much toilet you know how much toilet paper I is?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's a big end of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well the lady with the horn earlier probably could have used some of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think Cheryl Crowe said that you only need one square of toilet paper.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, oh, I, he is figs and nuts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you've never been to Tijuana, Mexico, the only sell it by a square.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's good times.
[SPEAKER_04]: In there.
[SPEAKER_04]: It sucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You knew all day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to give it to you guys to be honest.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bob, I sent you a DM.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: On Twitter, but we've been through this hell.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what do I have every day to listen to?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're looking forward to.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's Ross and Dan.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that's as plain as I can say.
[SPEAKER_05]: We greatly appreciate it because without the listeners, you don't have a show.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I try to tell people that all the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we're just talking about conspiracies earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're getting that spot to find comment thing conspiracy thing of like, oh my God.
[SPEAKER_05]: They say, well, I was like, no, no, they did.
[SPEAKER_05]: One, two, you can, like one YouTube today.
[SPEAKER_05]: The comments are on.
[SPEAKER_05]: If they've never gone off on any other platform, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: You can hate as much as you want, like feel free or like it or whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't really care.
[SPEAKER_05]: But every single day, we'll try to be honest.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll try to be real with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like, God, I wish we were getting paid by some outside source.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd love to be rich.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would love to be so rich that I'm like, man, I'm getting paid by guitar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or whatever the fuck it is, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's my point, is that you guys just show up and go to work every day.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like the dynamic between you and your wife is great.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just need more guests to black pill you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you brought to the airport.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, my money is coming.
[SPEAKER_05]: By the way, somebody else brought that up in the chat with the black pill.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of a go ahead.
[SPEAKER_05]: God, well, no, but it's, it's odd to me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like these weird conspiracy theories about things, or I'm like,
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't really pay attention to it unless it's gotten loud enough like the voices have gotten loud enough Yeah, I don't like this person is first in this person, but yeah, it's a rest of the filter You just have to filter it just like anything else.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's it And so like how I'm feeling on a day-to-day basis is kind of how we are on the show But I'm like, okay cool man.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll listen to it And so for me like I'll I have very strong opinions.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a I'm a big guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a boy stress guy
[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes, I'll find myself cornered, you know, kind of confused about what's going on in the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: A genius, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Same here, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll wait to see what you guys have to say about it before I really form my opinion, because I'll go with my opinion based on, and not just yours, I listen to other people as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do the same by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we don't all shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't know shit until we know it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And all of the sense of everywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I listen to every network too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I'll turn on Fox CNN, all of the shit late at night.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I know it's all slanted.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I have this amount of work I have to do in research.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you have to put in the work as it were to actually get to the bottom of some of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, you know, you guys were talking about conspiracies and all that shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the end of the day, if you shake it out, there's going to be pattern recognition is basically what it all is.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what it comes down to.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you look to the red line drawing, pattern recognition, because you can draw a red line to anywhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: Pull a bummer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Drew, a big old red line, didn't you?
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like on a board.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Charlie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, it's truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: truth is what we all seek and that's what seek out and and things like that and it's really just kind of you draw it down to its basic first principles which I messed up on citizen when I was on there.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like you you boil it down.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we go forward from there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is that kind of what you were saying about how I've related to regular?
[SPEAKER_04]: You take what, all of his, what's his name?
[SPEAKER_06]: Roger.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Roger Lynch, he's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's really great.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's so smart.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he just, I just, the stuff and then just spews it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what Austin does is he just,
[SPEAKER_04]: explains it like you're a normal human being.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you're a normal everyday person that you don't you don't sit there and just read history textbooks all day long.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Things are actually way simpler than you think.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the way to be smart is to reduce what you're saying to the point that it sounds so obvious that it's dumb.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's like return to something, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's why that's why I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love retardment.
[SPEAKER_04]: So for what I do, I'm on an HVAC, right, and HVAC, and what do you want nobody wants to have that conversation?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's usually 25,000 dollar conversation.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you've got a coil here that I ain't working in and I've got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's jargony.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then, by the way, it'd be better if you replaced the whole goddamn unit.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you need to explain it so that they know what it means beyond jargon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so that's my strength.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's why I admire it and other people is because I have that ability to do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like that Austin's been pounding so many hard to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've counted you're on your fifth.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's building a tower.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then in my in my little.
[SPEAKER_06]: In my second time until I get to the advertisers.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: My my so I won't take too long, but my socio path.
[SPEAKER_04]: cycle path, you know, mental, I'm just a real person, but you know, I texted you out of the blue, because we kind of interacted a little bit, James Lens, you kind of do that thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, hey, I'm going to be down in Austin, you should come out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I'd like to meet you and all that stuff and you know, oh, is are we going to have are we going to have a show as it's going to be like a whole thing and I'm like, I actually know and I didn't want to stuff it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought they were all by me on to the show and see I apologize, but you reached out to Dan and in this sort of thing kind of happened to organically so it was kind of nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and so we don't come here by the way, like we, we know him and it's.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, but I'm not a fanboy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a fanboy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate what you guys do and I like my background actually went to college for broadcast journalism and flunked out, you know, but this stuff like this is I'm 45, this is like what I do and I'm boring.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just listen to podcasts and I want to try to find what the truth is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I love the truth and the logos thing because you get through these like tides and periods where it has to build up to the point.
[SPEAKER_06]: But when you get this crescendo, it's so rewarding because and people constantly like discount the truth and they say, oh, people aren't rational and so you should give up on rational arguments and there's an whole element of truth to that.
[SPEAKER_06]: But like the truth still matters and the truth still shines through.
[SPEAKER_06]: that's why they want to capture you in like a digital UK style totalitarianism.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like in ancient China, they could lock it down to the point where you could pretty reliably stop truth to the point where like Taoism was their version of individualism because it was entirely internally expressed individualism, which means you wouldn't get killed by the government.
[SPEAKER_06]: if you talked about it, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So that was their coping mechanism, but so you can lock yourself down into like 1,000 year tyrannies.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is one of the reasons why it's good Rome felt because Rome didn't have the institutions to evolve and do a more free society like you're up dead throughout the feudal age.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so the only way room could have survived is if they like transition to a Chinese totalitarian kind of system that was able to maintain a thousand year bureaucracies like how long can you stretch your tower or babble, but that's not actually a good thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is the hey, what is the good thing is we have PF Changs all over the nation and they are fucking delightful.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let us from there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Especially the one at Hartfield Airport, Big Fan, Dan and I have been there.
[SPEAKER_05]: You brought some soccer for us.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to drink that after this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate you sooner than in.
[SPEAKER_05]: Austin, tell everybody where they can find you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Find me on History 102 on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I have my, that's what bread your lunch.
[SPEAKER_06]: We talk about all sorts of incredible topics.
[SPEAKER_06]: Get right down to the truth, teach you a real history.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's like you have some good historians like Dan Carlin who tell a good story or even people say Marter made tells a good story.
[SPEAKER_06]: But they all have the politics of like kind of,
[SPEAKER_06]: progressive error leftist where they
[SPEAKER_06]: which informs that historical analysis.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you want to have good economics in there.
[SPEAKER_06]: You also want to have understanding of the value landscape and the psychology and the religion and the longer cultural trends that go beyond the battle and the short-term human story.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we really try and explain it in a way that's understandable.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so check out history 102.
[SPEAKER_06]: And also in a way that will be like listenable by audiences in a hundred years.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what we want.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're not just focused on
[SPEAKER_06]: whatever the trend is.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then my own show is Austin Padgett, Ludwig never maces.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's also my Twitter handle.
[SPEAKER_06]: So if you type in any combination of Austin Padgett and Ludwig never maces on YouTube or Twitter, you'll find me.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we appreciate you being here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's along with the back catalogue Cooper's been busy putting up that's back catalogue But it's a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's 2300 episodes right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's in the midst of it We appreciate you tuning in on a day in a day out basis for damn to the Anthony Holloway I'm Ross Patterson this is drinking rose fake news good night everyone