[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to another episode of the Street Alpha Podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Tux.
[SPEAKER_01]: And today we are in Sunny Florida.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have the pleasure of sitting with Andrew Hawkins.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's back again for another podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys saw him about two, three years ago?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, three years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when I first started doing this podcast, him and Herman came on with his wild shorts.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we had a great episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a first Australian episode, I think I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in his states.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're back, and we will be going to GTR Festival again this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this episode is brought to you by GTR Festival.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Master Sponsoring.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be excited to go this year again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had such a blast last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen bills that I will never probably see in the States.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's a ton of GTR behind us.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, the way they do things in Australia is way, way different, like on another level.
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for bringing me out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, we can go back out there and kill it again this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I came up with a text to Kate and then I kind of figured, well, I'm already here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I should be doing some networking and meetings.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I basically had meetings here in Orlando, so I kind of went, well, I'll go to fuel fast while I'm here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been down to Austin for some filming with Boost Logic and some other meetings.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot going on over here that I'm trying to take care of behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think my long-term goal is to essentially have another base here of operations in the U.S.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had a lot of people ask me to say, hey, can you do events beyond GTR Festival?
[SPEAKER_02]: yeah so some people want to partner with me and back that so essentially this trip has been a bunch of meetings and networking and you know me I'd one meeting usually turns into like six six other workshop visits or and we're having a car meet tonight here at monster yeah yeah yeah so like I can't help myself I can't just have the one meeting and then go relax I've got to keep doing stuff and hustling and making things happen and just
[SPEAKER_02]: That's me man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love making cool stuff happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I gave up on like a couple of days off at the beach I've even taken Easter I was meant to have a holiday at Easter and then someone goes can you work in my car and Dallas?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I can't afford a holiday guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll pay you enough to make it worth you all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like Be sure and you guys name your price.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I'm working on a car over Easter.
[SPEAKER_02]: So
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're working on the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got to go to LA then I go back home.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like it's yeah, just cramming so much stuff in having a good time while I'm at it I love what I do so You know adding more work isn't exactly making it a worse trip, but it's just it's always fun and just making more things happen So I've got secrets to tell you later in the podcast
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's always good to see you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, when you come out here, it's always a blast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Always a good time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Last time I think I saw you was at SEMA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so definitely party a little too hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the camera.
[SPEAKER_01]: But SEMA was a blast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see anything interesting that you, you know, that you liked that you haven't seen in Australia?
[SPEAKER_02]: From a GTA perspective, what I did enjoy was seeing there was a lot more GTA, Skylon GTA as it's the same as they see them probably ever before or last time.
[SPEAKER_02]: and the build quality had stepped up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for me that was a good sign for the USA.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed meeting some of the owners with built some pretty wild cars and you look forward to seeing that our event and stuff like that but it's good to meet with those guys and and given the encouragement to it's not just about what people are going on, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Andres, sorry, it hasn't got fit down on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It always sounds like you do realize I like all GTIs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's not just all Z1s.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like everything, but seeing I guess a bit of inspiration from Australia and Japan and America rolled into one in some of those builds with a really good song.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you guys do things different over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of former ISO was like high horsepower stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't really have that here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we do have obviously, we're at massive performance, of course, leave build some high horsepower stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But not 1,700, 1,800 horsepower things.
[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of see that very often over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of hard to kind of I guess compare or compete with what you guys do over there because a lot of the bills are only making like, I don't know, 700 horsepower here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I think a sweet spot for a GTI straight car is still that 6,600 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm openly admitted to people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love a 2,000 horsepower GTI.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to have a GTR that you can drive and enjoy on the street, reliably, regularly, and is a nice car, you should be aiming for that 6 to 800.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can make 1,000 reliable, but you've got to build it to make 1,500 and turn it down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like my car's a perfect example of over-building it, going a smaller turbo, and being able to enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But have you ever driven like a 200 horsepower GTR and a normal road?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's terrifying, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah man, like it's like it's, but mine almost feels slow at the track now on 1200, which I don't know sounds pretty crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that sounds wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it hooks up and puts like covers ground so quickly now as I'm well set up all round car.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're on the street.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like,
[SPEAKER_02]: use this to its full potential.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe a Florida Freeway or Texas Freeway occurred.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, Australia.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's not a normal road.
[SPEAKER_02]: I miss having a 700 horsepower get-trag H-patten car that I can take on a twisting mountain road and go to cars and coffee on a Sunday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of miss that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the build's a different, but that's got a lot to do with the melting pot of the environment, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you go to Connecticut, I understand now why they only want 700 horsepower and go to cars in coffee, but their cars in coffee is via a mountain run.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got sick roads, can't use a thousand different lifestyle.
[SPEAKER_02]: You go to LA, it's all car park because, well, what are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: You go to Texas, like, I haven't got 2,000 horsepower, like...
[SPEAKER_02]: Texas and Florida both horsepower states because you get the chance to use them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's the, and then same deal with our scene in Sydney, the role racing scene, the Kutamundra events I ran GTR Festival, combined all of those, you now have a fiercely competitive environment that fosters that development and I'm not going to lie there.
[SPEAKER_02]: the the big GTR street cars have all fallen off the back of the fast race cars.
[SPEAKER_02]: That whole race on Sunday, Salon Monday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like when June 2 and King 32 were going into the sixes like seven years ago, six years ago, the street cars weren't.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you think happened as they went into the middle and bottom sixes?
[SPEAKER_02]: The street cars just kind of got dragged up down with them in the
[SPEAKER_02]: can drive on the street, not even on a pro-radial size tire, like a two-file five or whatever, have now gone 690.
[SPEAKER_02]: So those cars were like in the eights when June and then were starting a crack sixes and now a seven-second street GTR is relatively cool, man, like, cool, like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty normal, but it's not normal like every day you see one, but I mean, you go to JDR Fest, if we saw how many 12, 1500 horse bad JDRs with that, like it was a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was almost like pick the one that doesn't make it, but it's that competition that fuel it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's face it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't race for prize money.
[SPEAKER_02]: We race for our ego.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mean that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a bad one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean that in a good way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fistly competitive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone wants to win.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that environment in Sydney, you've met Sydney people, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't want to lose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, a very passionate about it and they want to win and there's still someone every month that just walks into a shop and goes how much to build a car that wins GDR festival, how much to build a car that wins GDR challenge it could amount of how much to build a car that wins role racing and it's like Some of those shops will turn and go bro, you better have 300 grand to spend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like no problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: He go so like that environment Fosters those builds which forces every shop to step up as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why there's so many big shops in Sydney that can build you a
[SPEAKER_02]: 1200 to 2000 horse power skyline GTR.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well here you need enough customers who want to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you have 10 customers in one shop that want to make a thousand?
[SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden, making a thousand's easy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what every shop's told me.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just need enough customers that want to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there's a support for it, we'll do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the moment, you're not there yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think what happened is a lot of US people kind of got scared off like the big sequential or big auto JDR with 1200.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they all just have told themselves, they want 6 to 800 and just kind of got stuck there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then only a few people here have kind of gone, I know I want to go beyond that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to race my car.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people here say a skyline JDR is a collector's item or like a rare car.
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, a 32-gidiot, I bought mine for 10 grand, like it's, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So to nasty old duts and in my head at some times, I love them.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's my favorite car on the planet, but I can still look at it and just go in my head.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like I didn't pay much for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could just go to raise the crap out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're kind of, because you're later to the party, there's more people paying a lot more for them who don't want to cut them up, I guess, even though you're not cutting them up.
[SPEAKER_02]: they don't want to go that far and there are just people kind of scared of that whole like sequential big-tailed by setup.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once enough cars he get reliable out of thousands, you'll just start seeing more of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just the nature of competition and business, really.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about the RB30 swap into GTRs?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that seems like the more, I don't want to see affordable, but the more common option because RB26 stuff is kind of hard to find right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it seems like all the high horsepower stuff is doing, like I have a 30, Lee runs 30, he doesn't even bother with 26 is because of the cast limitations.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you feel about swapping those into like R34, R33?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just pretty common with Australia, but some people in the States don't believe in doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to keep everything pure to like the 26 and so on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, go get a standard car and go home like if you want to modify car make power capacity look capacity is king and I have been through my stage of a purest.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought a nine and a half thousand RPM 2.8 is the way to go and they do sound amazing and they're awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once I drove an RB30 with 3.2 in it, I just like want to go back and slap old me go watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Capacity is king and then those guys that go are RB30's don't sound as good I go.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the dirt thing too, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see you that, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they go, oh, I don't rev.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, actually my 3.2 when I first did it, we'll rev in it to nine and a half thousand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jun two revs to 11,000 with a 3.2 and it don't tell me it doesn't rev.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because you can't build it to rev.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell me it can't, like.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will admit, like if you don't rev in RB30, it doesn't sound as good as 2.0, I'm not going to lie.
[SPEAKER_02]: But once you get the RPM back into an RB30, they sound amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you think a RB30 can sound just as good as a 26.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is this what I explained it is this and to 8,000 RPM the 30 doesn't sound as good but we'll get into that like 8.5 to 9.5 I'm like tell me goat 32 when you watch or rhm at 9.5,000 going past you doesn't sound good oh so hard and he's oh rhm is revenue to 10,000 but that's the thing if you're only revenue an rb 30 like 7.5,8 I agree 28 sounds better okay but the like right now I've got a 3, 6 and I only need to have a date I really have a bit harder because I can
[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't sound as good, but if you're talking about like, oh, I don't think it's a nine out of ten instead of a nine and a half It's not like one sound terrible one sounds good right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You had mine luck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no sounds good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Still sounds sick I watched I watched your video when you installed the vibrant exhaust.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, to see if what are we 30 with sound like with a titanium.
[SPEAKER_01]: How does it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds, I have a same, I don't have a viber and I have to tie con, but we charge sounds too well the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but it sounds, I mean how you do it, yeah, dude, it sounds like there's no RV that I've heard in person, that sounds like that, with the titanium setup.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're splitting hairs here on the sand, it's like, no, 100% yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just, I don't know how to explain to the people, it's like, don't don't, don't I go over something dumb because you can't work it out, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, don't tell me, this is your reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: capacity is king in a skyline GDR and if you have a three to like needle stroke in an RB third and you have a big head on it to match, you've got the now you've got the torque, the mid range, and the top end.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got everything and I've got videos that prove just how responsive they can be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a G45 1500 makes 1200 at the hubs on 35 pound on a three, two or a three, six, both combos and you've seen how responsive that thing is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's wild, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: No it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't get that combo right, that's not my fault.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sitting here on a podcast trying to tell you how good something is, you're not proving it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got all the videos, the racing, the dyno graphs, but all the evidence to go, this is how good you can make it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't want to copy that to be different, then don't get upset when it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I tell people.
[SPEAKER_01]: 100% and you guys don't really have two days over there, as big as we have here, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: We actually have, we have 2J powered Pro mods in the, in the 5's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not like we don't know how to make power to 2J.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the biggest difference between a 2J and an RB in Australia is not the engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the chassis.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the skyline GDR is more popular because of R32 to 34 can make, but you can almost have standards expansion to make a 1000 at a time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Almost.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say you can.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to say like very close to standard suspension that for a long time I just had re-camber arms coilovers because the factory ones are duds and old and like cast the rods That's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I guess luck bar cuz you're making over a thousand do 1200 around eight sixty on that Wow, so the chassis can handle the panic go for now I'm going to get heat to people arguing here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to look at every camera when I say this Your guy's race tracks are so sticky that I've done a one three sixty on a falcon as in a tire
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you guys got yeah, but I ran an eight on a super with a manual and this is not I'm like, yeah, here not Australia Sorry, no, like there's no super in Australia with like a get-tracks six feet and an RS rear end that makes 1200 horsepower That even comes close to the sky on duty are now go on to roll racing on ash fault Like real no prep not this fake no prep with spraying everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: on a, you know, I mean, like, and don't get me wrong, I still enjoy all that, but go do coulda-munder, for example.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got an eight second JDR and a super that makes the same power runs in 11.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's just a reality of two or three drives.
[SPEAKER_02]: So with the RB versus 2J thing in Australia, yes RB is one more prominent, I think, but I think the chassis is what led to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't just the engine itself.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not some people waving some false flag believing that 2J's aren't great.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're awesome engines.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm never going to argue that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But go show me a super six speed and an R-34 the six speed with both with a thousand horsepower and we'll take them out on the fair right now as street cars, not drag cars, and tell me which ones are better car to use overall.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't argue that, it's all one's all one's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't detract that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the GDR chassis is also a great chassis for handling, for anything, like you can do anything with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me a super can do that you can't you can pretend and someone's gonna argue in the comments go go go go But like and you know Yes, there's some super time attack cars out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome cars I'm not trying to say that they're bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just trying to say that there are 34 well 32 to 34 chassis is why we probably part of the reason we came obsessed with the RB Plus, you know, we started with group A racing in Australia so we had that benchmark so
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that we don't have two giants in Australia.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't build them.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's plenty of fast two giants over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the obvious more popular.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, where do you think that most people fail building RBs in the states?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's very few shops that actually know, and I'm just being honest, there's very few shops that actually know what they're doing with the RB because they work with a lot of two jays.
[SPEAKER_01]: And since they're pretty, they're fairly similar.
[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of I guess machine them or build them the same way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I don't know if there's any other Science to it or if there's any other things that they can do to, you know, not have failures But where do you feel like the differences are and how we build that little things?
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been through the trial and our even my own cars.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been through the trial and error of what works and what doesn't play with a lot of things You guys just haven't been through enough of it yet, and I think there are some shops over here who just go do just ask an Australian workshop
[SPEAKER_02]: and let him tell you, and some of those cars have worked really well, but there are some people over here and hats off to them as well, who go now on to do my own development, and some of them have started off going, oh, I've made this work when you said it wouldn't, and then like, I kind of secretly go give it two months or something, you know, I mean, then like two months later it's broken, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they call me and like, yeah, you're right, like, so I think there's a bit of that trial there to go through, and I think the RB, I've had someone say to me, and I'm not going to say who it is, a very, very big YouTube somewhere overseas, said to me, it's just an engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my guys can do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, cool man, wherever you say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Broken.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, RB has a lot of little things that make sense once you know them, but don't make sense before you know them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Things to do is like, how you settle the thrust when you put a cranking that you wouldn't do that in a procedure.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see it for the giant block, it wouldn't have hammer settling the thrusts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you might go, why are you doing that?
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to do it with a two-j.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, I'm like, little trick we've learned with them to get them to settle the thrust right.
[SPEAKER_02]: how much like inflow in the crank you have might be different like you've got to go off what we've learnt with these RBs rather than go out of water for 2J.
[SPEAKER_02]: Things to do with like you've got to know what they can handle.
[SPEAKER_02]: What can I know five you or an n1 block handle?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think tuning is probably worse than the engine building here to be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's always, yeah, that's always a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will come back to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But actually, before we probably even get to the topic of your head, I saw a video.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the headies get done wrong here a lot too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, two days are pretty basic head and they, most people just go, I said a two, seven, two, instead of our springs and you're good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: RB heads are not the same at all by any means.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, the RB's head is its secret.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the secret to what it does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think everybody knows that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've had this as it's been done to the earth, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had people prove to me that the same turbo on the same sort of like parts of the bottom end and the head on a two-jane and RB, if you take into consideration the capacity in theory of the RB is making more power per pound boost and all that sort of stuff and more efficient.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the heads in those people get wrong here and the biggest thing I kind of try to tell everyone and people will argue that's cool, like I've done it, so I don't need you to argue with me and DM wrong, I'll stick to what I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Within RB, I always say people either go drop in or all in and they go, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: I go, if you're going to be 26 head, they respond really well to like a drop in camshaft, like a HKS or a Tomey drop in or a Kelford drop in, just a drop in, just a drop in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So no head machining, no nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a set of our springs and a set of adjustable camsies.
[SPEAKER_02]: They work fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen 50 horsepower from like 350 to 400.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or I've even seen the cargo from 600 with stock cams to closer to 700.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: With that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then the other end of the spectrum is ported head, like full race ported head, like as far as you can go, port one of the gaskets, take as much as you can, go oversized vows, double vows brings to a tiny retainers and put like a minimum of like a 280 degree cam shaft on a 2-6 or a 29 degree cam shaft on an RB30 of any type, and I'm talking like as much lift as you can physically jam in the thing and people go to me, oh, that's too big, it'll drive crap and I'm like, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they go, no, that'll be crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, it's actually not.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they keep trying to convince me that that won't drive well.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first time I put a race port it had on a two six with only like a G 35 on it, I thought, oh, this will be laggy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will look, I lost no bottom end.
[SPEAKER_02]: I gained mid range.
[SPEAKER_02]: It came on better.
[SPEAKER_02]: RB's love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop trying to make them work down low.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't, I don't care what.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you do get it to work down low, you'll just crush bearings and labor the motor and break it anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the head on them, if you're not losing any bottom end and you're not losing any mid range by having a big head, but you're gaining like a 1.5,000 RPM worth of power band up top and making the thing work up top, they want to work up top.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of their efficiency is up top.
[SPEAKER_02]: No matter what you do in RB, they're not happy when they're trying to make peak talk at 3,000 RPM.
[SPEAKER_02]: They always break.
[SPEAKER_02]: They labour, they don't like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you can put a big head on it and you don't lose any bottom end, what's the downside?
[SPEAKER_02]: None.
[SPEAKER_02]: You gained mid range.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, my 2.6 for the raceport at hand on it in 280 degree cans with like 11.25 left, came on boost quicker than just like dropping cans.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't believe it at first, but when I started like doing this, I was like, and then I did the only person that ever done like a direct comparison, two, six, to three, two, so everything in the engine changes was the same, the head was the same everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I put a 3.200, I'm like the camsets to be small.
[SPEAKER_02]: I put two 90s in it with 1185 lift.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, and it didn't lose any bottom end.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were three though.
[SPEAKER_02]: They picked up bottom end.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm three six and I'm like I need bigger cans I need three hundreds in it like it's that's they just eat up head big time when I like any good person out there They love head So I say drop in or all in all this like I did a light port and I cleaned up the valve area And I put two seven to shut up
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, drop-ins or all in the middle like you might sit there and tell me I andri but I did this and I can't like I'm not saying that like a 272 and a light cleanup doesn't do anything Yeah, I'm saying it's like it's if you're going to spend the money on porting ahead and doing new vows Let's sort of stuff go all in and trust me you have the lumpiest sick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like an Aussie JDR the thing will have to no I'll send you a video to play in a second A stop who wants a cranks like I put it on the 2.6 crank
[SPEAKER_02]: Rods and pistons big head on it like big like a seven second head on it, but only a jeep 35 10 50 on it made 840 at the hubs Rev to 9700 and the sound is epic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me you don't want that like and then I put a three two on the bottom But instead of rev into 9700 rev to 8700
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but now I made that power on like 25 pound of boost like it was so efficient So you're saying okay, so I think I reached out to you right before SEMA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I had a turbo problem Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think I was running into back pressure She's I had a nine six hot side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I think I watched one of your videos where you were explaining that you went with a larger hot side on one of your turbos and you said minimum one ten
[SPEAKER_01]: One ten or one five depending on the brand I think I only one twenty yeah, because they make a v-band Persision makes a v-band one ten and one twenty and one two eight now
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're once, yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's never got very serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with a guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we actually ended up installing that and running it before SEMA.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I picked up, I want to say, my terrible spool 500 RPM sooner with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's strange, and when I drove the car, it was driving like it was picking up as like sooner because it was just coming in earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same sort of both, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just the next gen.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not really sure if it was the back pressure or what it was, but it definitely drove better and it felt like it was like breathing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our bees loved to breathe and it's just, I keep telling everyone, make the thing efficient.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trying to choke it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't put a G30 on it and try and make full boost at three grand.
[SPEAKER_02]: They drive junk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put a G35 on it and get a bigger, bigger rear housing, bigger rear wheel, get some flows through the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let it eat.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they just, they don't lose a heap of bottom end when they do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were designed for group A racing in the late 80s, really, with the limit design happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were never designed to make bottom end.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are two seeks, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, they were designed to make all their power five and above, stop trying to change it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop trying to make an RB, stop, you know, I'm going to say something offensive I caught on this path.
[SPEAKER_02]: But just stop trying to make it do what it's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like, just stop fighting it.
[SPEAKER_02]: and you think high lift cams are you said eleven two five that's kind of a that's a grassland small I got eleven eight five now I want bigger if I can what's coming in the UK's done a new base second on twelve and a half meal if I want to do that next I'm eleven eight five meal lift on a three two or three six you guys are running that much lift yeah man and more
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, it's war brought so good it's crazy because like I had a 11 11 millimeter lift on my current setup Which is not gonna be in there anymore and then it was like a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like that's too much lift You know you should run 10 it 1025 1085 which homemade makes and I'm like well all the guys in Australia Running high lift.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't I run high lift what's the issue?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know so I don't really know again the difference in here
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's that traditional understanding of the bigger the camshaft, the worse it drives, the more me-drangy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And don't give me wrong, if you go to a trade school and learn about generically learn about camshaft, like everything from, you know, like the ramp profile, the lift, and the duration, and the overlap, etc., logic tells you that the bigger the camshaft, the worse it drives.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are engines that do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And from what I'm told, and 2J does that, like a monster camshaft with a G-35 would
[SPEAKER_02]: on a subject yeah yeah but yeah our bees are different and that's the thing is everyone's trying to implement traditional engine building our engine tuning to an RB over here and it's not working and then they kind of look at like oh why isn't that working with like how come they're you're doing that I get I've been told multiple times I must be lying about when my car has because like you'll show me if you don't go and they go and
[SPEAKER_02]: No way like just no way does that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, that's normal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can build you that like yeah, and I've built cars for other people and people have copied my combos and everyone I ask I'm like I saw this guy He's a ex Navy seal in at a car meet in California.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I copied your car exactly jetrag for elevens GTW 384 needs my plenum two eight like just yeah, and I go how is it goes?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's incredible and he goes actually my tuna Told me that my combo was wrong and it will be terrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: He told me that and I said no, man
[SPEAKER_02]: And when I find, and he was awesome, like, I can't have more evidence than just constant builds that keep working, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's what I try to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I've had people say, give me the formula, you give them the formula and they change two things and they ruin it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I say to people that a GTR set up, not just the engine, but the whole car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Over a thousand.
[SPEAKER_02]: If even 700, you get 10 out of 10 right, it's the best car on the planet to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: like I can, like amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: 9 out of 10?
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: 8 out of 10?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: 7 junk.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you've only got to get three things wrong out of 10 and the car goes from being incredible, to terrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when other YouTubers go, I'm finally going to drive a skyline GDPR.
[SPEAKER_02]: They drive a 7 out of 10 parts list car that's not complete packaged on well and they'll go, oh, it's a bit
[SPEAKER_02]: bit disappointing you know what I mean yeah yeah but I've taken people who are on my record just flat out arrogantly I'll say this with total arrogance comfort driver monster best you've ever been and I got you right like and I agree I would too if you someone right now said to me come for driving his super to best or be ever been I'll be like you're right I make like
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's like, I'm gonna drive and I can't back and I'm like, oh yeah, I guess, it is like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's a long time developing my new adjustments to get that right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't just wake up and build a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been developing the one car since 2011.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And made sure that at every point my mentality is I come at 400 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going above 400 Let's perfect like perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah cool perfect for 15 keep it perfect fine and I've done that every step of the way from 280 horsepower to 1200 so if you say to me Andrew build me the perfect JDR at a power level from 400 to 1200 okay do this
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, I've done that not just to try and, I don't know, it's not ego-basically.
[SPEAKER_02]: Generally, when I help viewers, I want to help JDR owners, a lot of our followers are very much thanks for your help and that's actually what I want to do is educate JDR owners and I be owners, help them, help them build a good car rather than guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that development is why I did that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could have skipped so many steps and just built that right and like normal people just build a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been developing and tinkering away for so long.
[SPEAKER_02]: I almost need a reset.
[SPEAKER_02]: I almost want to get back and start from another stock point again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So imagine starting from stock again now 15 years later.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you mentioned that video I posted about the ceiling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're still in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, before that, the biggest, the biggest thing in the comments is it wouldn't happen if you had a 2G, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: For some reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you build a 2G terrible, that'll break too.
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened to your head?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not an RB thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happened to your head was a terrible, like just...
[SPEAKER_02]: bad assembly, bad build, like that, that could have been an LS, that could have been a coyote, that could have been a 4G63, a K-24, S58, you name it, any engine built wrong, he's going to break, and an RB is probably slightly more, I don't want to use the word delicate, because it's not more delicate, it's just, it likes to have things done just right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has, it has less margin of error in it, it's probably the way I like to put an RB build, that once built right,
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't build it right, they tend to not be as happy, probably sooner than another engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what yours had bright.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every, like how you're speaking right now, they all think like, oh, that's what every RB owner sounds like.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all delusional.
[SPEAKER_01]: They say like, oh, it's delicate.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would do it two days.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's more reliable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would anybody want to deal with the nonsense you have to deal with with an RB?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but no, with assembly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you're, that's what they say.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you can, if your cam tunnel was not straight,
[SPEAKER_02]: If your bucket's a wrong, like in the, where I'm at the valve, it's like everything will break.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think what I, I won't say the way more delicate, the reason I say it, it probably a little bit more susceptible to like that becoming an issue sooner is, guess what, we have to 9,000, not to 7,000, like a loser.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's what I say to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's cute, bro, you're going to be ready to 7, that's cute.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just relax, it's fun, but when someone says that, that's where my reply is just, hey, just because you can't rev it to nine grand, but what happened to your engine is, I don't even care, it could have happened to any engine, that was just, I actually had to stop watching at one point, like a horror movie, like, oh, I can't watch that, that was that, I'm like, how many things are going to be wrong with this head?
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that cylinder head, just to kind of clarify what, not the long story, I was, obviously, is my first project.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I picked up a cylinder head and it was brand new from Colby, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: He sold the cylinder head, paid 3500 bucks for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brand new in the plastic from Nissan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which now you regret not getting, not caping.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was lucky enough to have him send me one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I paid for it and I was in a rush.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a amateur thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted the card done right away.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kept saying three months for about two years, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I brought the head to the machine shop, and I said, hey, man, I have this fresh core.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have something that is already done that we don't have to, you know, we can do the process.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he put me in contact with somebody else who had one, which is one of his friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I took that cylinder head and exchanged for this one, for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which if you did the mathematics, the cost of building a cylinder head and buying a second hand core even would be triple what you paid for that new one if done right.
[SPEAKER_01]: If done right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a head right now in Australia is probably about 12 grand US to get a fully race ported head with everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about 12 grand.
[SPEAKER_01]: What about just a core?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well you're going to buy a core.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like if you rang me up and said, hey bro, find me ahead and send me a Croydon spec like it can go sixes.
[SPEAKER_02]: like an all in head with everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now they've got some cause that are floating through rotation.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're probably going to spend about 14,000 US.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the debris.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, none of the cylinder heads cost that much over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not 14,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would never pee that over here knowing, I just sent it to Australia.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't 40 grand.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't have been bothered having anybody in the States build my army.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now you know you get ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, we could just put this on a car over here that runs six straight away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 100%.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, oh, like, what kind of revenue?
[SPEAKER_02]: More than
[SPEAKER_02]: So you want to be like, that's our answer, like it will make more power and go quicker and rev harder than everything else in your car is capable of, so it's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll actually always say this to everyone watching your gave you crap about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That cylinder head I told you on my car that I pulled on that 2.6, it is the same cylinder head that I did the built 2.6 in 2017 was on my built 3.2 and now my built 3.6 that has not changed.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that has changed on that head is the camshaft when I look for bigger camshaft with an RB30 block.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the same port, the same valves, everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's had a quick refresh only because when I went to billet block, I'd be stupid not just.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he'd done a lot of work by then.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think a couple of valves just got a like valve seats.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think two valves seats are like, it's just worn, like let's just freshen it, there was nothing wrong with it though.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did it last year or the year before wasn't it started last year so twenty five seventeen air to twenty five so like eight years of the same ceiling to head across at least three different engine combos So when people go to being that's how it's a lot more you break stuff never popped to shim on that set up either it's not shimless never popped to shimless okay yeah shameless pockets in all else you know why don't go shimless so I can adjust it
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not cutting the valves.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you're using the right retainer and the right shoe and the right set up on the right tune and you don't bash or frimble, you know, there's no reason to drop shoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Quentin said that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said they're run, they run shims and I was like, really, you're like, yeah, we don't have any problems with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, if you're having problems and it's probably something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said a lot of he.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just because you haven't problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's almost like, you know, that's just what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this machine shop in particular, like, one of this, you know, happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had another machine shop inspect it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I sent it over to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, hey, this is what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take a look at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: See what you can do.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, all right, if it's my fault, I'll take care of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Long story short.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was I didn't agree with the findings, you guys can check out the video, I'm not going to explain, and then it just I got an invoice for $1,200, not that it's a lot of money for a cylinder head, but I didn't agree with a lot of the stuff that was on there, labor, polishing cams, 65 doubt, like I'm like dude, like that's not I didn't do anything to the cylinder head that caused any of this, maybe the bent valves, I'll take accountability for it, I'll buy new valves, how'd you been in the valves?
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't even know it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I said, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't blame that on you because there's no way that you physically could have bent the valves in the head unless it was something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll pay for the valves, no problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if the labor for to fix them, no problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else on there was like labor for inspecting and washing the cylinder head.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, dude, like, what about the other stuff?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I kept asking if the cams on the board is off, if the valve guides are beat up and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: couldn't get the information, couldn't get specs, nothing, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, all right, that's a red flag.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, honestly, man, like, you're telling me it's rod bearings.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got the filter open.
[SPEAKER_01]: I dropped the pan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see any type of material in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't believe that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you seem like bearing my tune, and I'll be usually looks like.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not small.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to get up into your head and cause like a tiny slow issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: If your bearing was gone enough to, like, damage your hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Damn, it's in your hands, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think your bearings probably bad to let go, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, lots of them say.
[SPEAKER_02]: So can't say bearing damaged caused you to have not have a straight tunnel in your cam like the cam or like right now That's that was wrong the way the buckets were they don't well like that on their head bro like yeah, that was wrong clearances to begin with and this is damaged itself and aid itself over time
[SPEAKER_01]: So to really clear it up is like, I'm not a machine job.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a machine job.
[SPEAKER_01]: And neither am I.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm pretty sure there's ways to check and have numbers to check tolerances for the board being, oh, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't get that from him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, that's a red flag to me because you're not, you're not giving me enough information.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could pay $1,200 and then I end up in this situation again because you didn't really tell me what the problem was.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the thing is to me, as soon as someone says, I'll go to regular wear on a
[SPEAKER_01]: go check the ball straightness of it like that's that's not even a don't polish cam's out to make sure that the cam spins freely that's not the right way to do no it's just that you should have already tunnel you should have bought that cam like yeah the cam tunnel if it's all I'm making sure it's good you don't have no positive journals and be like okay it spins freely like that's not the way you do it so
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got into a big argument about it because he was upset about it and said, oh, you think I should pay for your stuff and whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was almost like an eagle thing where I was like, you know why, man, just send me the stuff back.
[SPEAKER_01]: No problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't even say anything about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out of my eye here to ruin anybody's business.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just leave it at that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He got offended about about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, well, you're saying that because you need validation.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, for what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, I'm not out here trying to start no problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just send me the stuff back and I'll deal with it myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's YouTube a lot of too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be in
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad you said anything publicly.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but I've tried to tell them and instead of being like thanks for that feedback Let's try and fix the product.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's FU.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who do you think you are?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, why don't I have it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did I didn't engineering like I don't do tech videos of just like I'm strong on going on the block right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had like 36 channels of logging just about what we're testing man like just
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not going to say, but again, you know, if you're working with a company, you're not going to air them out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I prefer that if I have a problem with a part, the reason why you don't go public is you trying to deal with it so that they can get a better practice and a better service out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It worked together for a better car scene as a home.
[SPEAKER_02]: Think of it that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: But sometimes some companies just think they're right and they don't want to hear it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's different.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've had, believe it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not having issues with heads over.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been an issue for me before I built a car for Mickey from Throttle, which is, you know, round cat garage, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shotsomiki Shotsomiki Believe it or not, it's how a metmiki was a Seema 22 He just actually came up with me guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I'm making you longer than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no He's kind of like a juice and you know, I'm pretty friendly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what up to start hanging out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you help with the GTR?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: No problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you need?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he actually built his personal 32 off camera, not on throttle, but they built the engine on throttle.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was November, Seema.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we found out about this TV show, Bang and Gees, maybe we got that everyone did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's still coming out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope him find a drive shaft in the middle of Vegas when he broke your luck of all people So red card back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't a random Australian finding parts for a cup in America So you were pitted together and then so Mickey was one of the beauty 32 and then I got invited to that show And I'm like
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to drive some borrowed JDR if I can, I'd prefer, but I can't get mine there in time and Mickey goes, and I look at Mickey and go, he's like, dude, the show is in like eight weeks, I'm like, and he looked at me like, you guys, you guys, you guys, I can't even say the words are fancy over here, but this, you guys got problems mentally, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So we actually machined a block ready to go, got all the parts sort of everything out, ship what we could there, Rob Abelino flew in,
[SPEAKER_02]: built the engine off camera with you know with the guys I mean they built it but he was there to kind of help and supervise so get built our way but they built it on camera so it wasn't fake they actually did build it he was just there to supervise a little bit and help out right but then put that it was a completely dead stock running 32 we put a 20 built 26 and it would big head brother and pistons pump all the usual inlet manifold G35 sequential gearbox
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, eight days and then I flew in when it was like had turned key so I had to run it in Work with con get it road tuned to begin.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'd like to go test the car, whatever, etc.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was gonna go and then they Disappear to the show and I had to go don't know it and tune it and everything and I remember Mickey just gone Do these things gonna roll in like completely untest it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go tell fast will it be?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that's $675 horsepower on $24.00 if and I'll track a bit crappy because it's a non-prep and it's it's winter, it's cold, we're on a circuit tire, go between $10.00 and $10.00 and $135 on that shitty track because we're about circuit, I go, I'll beat a GT3 RS.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I jumped in a GT3 RS at Dream Racing at Las Vegas and I've driven there enough times to go I'm handy enough to put down a lap that's not, you know, completely off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did a 56-fork that was freezing cold, first lap in the 32-54-4, so two seconds quicker than a GT3 RS on a sub-60 race track.
[SPEAKER_02]: So everyone's like, oh, and then I go, Mickey goes, I didn't believe you, like, I'm like, why not?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I put my alarm in it, it does what it does, like the combo works.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how people can build a car and it not just work off a baseline like that when in theory, if you know your package, you know what you're doing, it should just go together not two thousand horsepower, I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a seven hundred horsepower GDR, I already know it's going to run a circuit, the track.
[SPEAKER_02]: So then we went to the drag trip and it did exactly what I said.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went ten eight at one thirty five straight away.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like building a car like that, it's just
[SPEAKER_02]: it's so easy for us over there now, at least for some of us just to do that, but over here you guys haven't got to that point, but on Mickey's car back to come back to the heads, I told him what I wanted with the head, like I said before, I want it all in, I want it all in head, I want it all in head, I want it to 280 degree camshaft, 11 half middle left, I want it to recess in the head, Michelin and the half.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 11 hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted the head.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted it risked like the relief for the camshaft.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted serious porting, oversized valves, double valve springs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the head shop got told this and said, oh, no, I'm doing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, and Mickey rings me goes, and so did Grady.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, oh, he doesn't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, tell him the fucking do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me, French.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but why would you even want if somebody says no, why would you even want them and do in the first place like No, no, it's could do it at the time and like okay, there was this now like who are you gonna call was in like three head shops?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I've been all of America.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and most of them want to argue and he's exact words were on a two jail that would drive terrible
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what else I have to keep telling people to believe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just some people are just stuck in their ways and you know they probably have a good amount of business coming in and they don't want to shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's some shop for that here too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that can be good at times as well, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you're, but I think it depends on who you're affiliated with also.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like who's who's cars are you working on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That you can say you can back and be like, oh, this is, I did this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I worked on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're not working on these people's cars, and it's like, where is this data information coming from?
[SPEAKER_02]: Before you're doing these building six hundred horsepower cars, and you do them well, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: But don't argue with me about what half the hours and what's going to work, so you don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know some people have tried to argue with me about that, and guess what happens when they build their first hours and what's the power one?
[SPEAKER_02]: It blows up and what did I tell them before they blew it up?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to blow that up because of ABCD.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, nah, all right, so it's tuning breaks more of them than parts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so tuning, you mentioned the cylinder head is a part like a secret to the RB.
[SPEAKER_02]: The cylinder head is a secret.
[SPEAKER_01]: Suning cylinder head is there anything else on the RB that, you know, if you want to build over a thousand that you should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Engine wise, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Engine wise, oiling, getting all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you all know that, but no, but I'm inside from, that's the same deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you have a stock pump and you have stock oil flow, you can get a while with baffles and a catch can.
[SPEAKER_02]: So those people that got to me, I was going to look at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because you got a stock pump.
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about what it says.
[SPEAKER_02]: High volume oil pump.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just pressure, it's flowing more volume.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if it's flows more volume, more than the factory designed it for, and it's already got turbo oiling factory, proven by a group A, what they had to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you have more volume, where's it all go?
[SPEAKER_02]: In the head gets stuck in the head.
[SPEAKER_02]: It can't flow back faster enough from the head.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're a part, Florida wanna circuit at 4,000 RPM, and it's pump on or under the head, and it's draining back slowly.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happens when you put the gas on and you get some crankcase pressure?
[SPEAKER_02]: out the rock covers about the cam covers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you've got a blowing out the cam covers into a catch can, but you've also got even your drain back to some, would you have to have shut up if you don't agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's now pushing the crankcase pressure out, so now the oil can't go anywhere, but where?
[SPEAKER_02]: Out the breather of the catch can.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you have a 10 lead of some, how big should you catch can be?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like six leaders, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to have enough sump that if you do a run from stationary to top of 6 gear and your oil system so bad that it can't all drain back to the sump in time, you need to sump big enough to survive that amount of run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's dry some people, do dry some, say, the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: The dry some has to hold enough to be able to survive what you're doing with them, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: True.
[SPEAKER_02]: So once you've finished that run of top speed run, guess where the oil goes now that you're back at idle.
[SPEAKER_02]: It all drains back again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're good again.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the catch can needs to be big enough to also hold all of the oil that got spatt out of it during that run.
[SPEAKER_02]: So these little one-leater catch-cans at peace everywhere, I'm like, you retired it right, like, put a six-leater catch-can on an RB30 with, I don't have way more pump on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a 10-leater sum.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you do that, I drove around with a factory, like, stole some set-up, just an enlarged sum.
[SPEAKER_02]: It held 10-leaters.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a six-leater catch-can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess how much oil dripped out of that car into years, three years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I did it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like overkill, but there's no such thing as overkill with a GTR.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get it right, and it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: So everyone tries to argue me, oh yeah, but...
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a 10-litre Sump and a 6-litre Cache can a never left one drop of oil on the ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did a lot of work.
[SPEAKER_02]: That 3.2 can't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: The video has proved it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it could hold enough oil in the Cache can that when I finished my run, it could drain back to the Sump.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now I had 10-litres in the Sump again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the big, or forget all this, just dry Sump it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's explosive though.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like 10, that's like 10,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see what these cars cost now?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I mean, if you have a car like that, yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, you know, everybody, if you're going to build up blocks, my advice is over a thousand, put dry some on it and just be done with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you can, really.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, some might say 1500 to 1200, but if you go build up block, you pretty much have to go external oil pump or dry some anyway, you have to, because they don't have a spot for an oil pump on a billet block, or if you make it, or you can do a lot of effort to make it work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I see you have to go dry some, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Billet blocks need stupid oil pressure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you have a bill of black, you're trying to make a big power.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So why would you buy the like it's, by the time you do all those oil mods to the custom sump and the custom catch can of the stuff, you're probably spending 10 grand on your system anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Straling dollars mind you, here I'm talking to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, cylinder heads at secret.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when it comes to making power and making a good set up,
[SPEAKER_02]: The oiling system right is the key to keeping it alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are other little tricks with assembly that really aren't tricks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like machine shop assemblies.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're not major that it's small.
[SPEAKER_02]: For a bottom end or a top.
[SPEAKER_01]: Both.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not major.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not enough for me to sit here and go, oh my god, it's some totally secret.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just ring a shop in a Australian second to give me a hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: And most of them will tell you what you need.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then tuning is the last one with an RB to keep it alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of people tune them wrong here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the key to it all is what I call chopping off the torque curve, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, engines break at peak torque, all of them, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Our bees are just a little bit more, don't like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time you see them crush a bearing, lift their head, spin a bearing, whatever it's all at peak torque.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, if you know peak torque is where it's going to lift their head and where it's going to
[SPEAKER_02]: then get rid of that peak torque point.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that is, let's just say your torque comes up, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it sort of hates a peak and rolls over before it sort of goes like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cut that bit off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I look at whatever peak to whatever torque it makes at say 8,000 RPM, I work backwards to make that torque curve flat.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you have say 800 foot pounds at eight grand, but you have a thousand foot pounds at five and a half,
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, that's 1,000 foot pound of fire and I'm going to break everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Geobox is going to break dry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get rid of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, it doesn't feel aggressive as much on the hit now, but by getting rid of that huge torque spark, it doesn't leave the head, doesn't break drive train, doesn't torque series much, doesn't crush bearings, it's where all the damage happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost, and the thing is, the thing wants to make peak torque at five and a half to six, but you can rev it to nine.
[SPEAKER_01]: true.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you've got a good gearbox and you shift at nine, where do the revs go to?
[SPEAKER_02]: Seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't matter what it makes at six anymore, does it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Once you're moving.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the only time what it does at six matters is that first hit that makes you feel good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you want to feel good and break your car?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or do you want to actually go from A to B and beat people?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you want to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to mind the way the torque curve is set up on its street like street tune.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can do a roll on an 809 yoke hammer.
[SPEAKER_02]: on a 1,100 horsepower are going to roll on and put the power down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the financial heat is like it's got 700, but then once you keep the footing and you get past sort of like seven and a half thousand RPM and getting to like eight and a half, that's where it makes a 1,100.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I pull the gear lever out in a half and it drops to like 7,300, still makes a 1,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if I drive it between 5 and 7, it like a drive like a car that makes 800 or 700, which hooks up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you get that strategy of tuning right with these, instead of it being stupidly aggressive when it comes on boost, and I've had this conversation with Lee here too with these cars, like one time he tried it once and he goes damn, like the car actually went down the street and drove in a straight line and went fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of trying to like go left and right, it's all right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it walks there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So tuning is a big issue, and to me it's all tuning that midrange.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's in for the multiple reasons now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be a little bit controversial here, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I went to Australia and did the podcast with B2R.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then mentioned that he ramps the the boosts and soon it sort of early and that's just how they tune over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, but see billet block.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That problem starts to go away.
[SPEAKER_02]: But have they broken a lot of drive train components and the cars get out of shape when they come on boost?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, however you would know better than me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but the driver's don't mind so when I tell you my strategy for tuning the mid range half of it is Okay, legitimately it makes the car safer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bill it blocks bit different.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can let him eat like let a bit really.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I literally so why don't we just go Billy but we're exactly by me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Billy while we're talking about the rest Cos comes last baby
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you fire in a billet block, and so can't lift the head, it's got a billet crank in it, it's got good ros and pistons in it, and you're going to draw something, I'll say.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you draw some, so you're not going to crush bearings, because you've got good oil pressure and you've got a better bearing, you're not going to crush bearings, you're not going to lift the head, the engine can take it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a tune that is the all-engine, which is like make all of it all the time, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like it's pretty much all my matters will be
[SPEAKER_02]: But the drive ability, go drive one that ramps the way I told you and go drive one that makes it all in and it's totally different car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, that one feels slower because it didn't hit as hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can tell you right now, you hooked up and it went and it just, well, I'm going to, we should replay a video like now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll make one of my setups, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will never say someone else has set up his wrong, but I can tell you that I know my set up work, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: With the the the data the evidence accepted, but I I'll never say the I have some other guy said it did that I don't like saying oh he's wrong cool man do it your way if you want to do and be to I have so many runs on the balls to show They know what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would never argue with what they want to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and if they say they do it this one like yeah, cool
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just found interesting because I was like, oh, wow, like, that's, they have a different strategy than most people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can only go on my own.
[SPEAKER_02]: My car's block when I have that, like, more sedate mid-range in it, and it made like a thousand and fifty went forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it just was so easy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Soon as I went, let it eat, broke two of them in a row.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie though.
[SPEAKER_01]: What, uh, Mr. 33?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got in that car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did it ride along in there?
[SPEAKER_01]: I could not breathe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, like the first five seconds.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's just because how good looking me at the mile in is.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not even the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows that drug bottle as I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yo, I swear I could not, that was the fastest car I've ever been in my life, and it was an attract too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So literally I could not breathe for five seconds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't on video and I was just quiet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the way that car, and I've never been on the GTR before that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a 33 or 34, not even a 32, but it was just like wild aggressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so good when they don't run.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, the way they, I mean, I'm sure if that car was done that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like 17 hours per hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm never going to get No tuning out that mid-range torque When I talk about what I said to you, I'm talking like you 700 to 1200 like no, I want to actually be dry Pro-mosen and pro.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to get them on.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, yeah, because they're being competitive.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a different and an
[SPEAKER_02]: the track, like it's a different world when you talk in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking like you're six to seven hundred, even five hundred, sort of 12, 1300 in the realm of like having a responsive turbo that can go around a corner and driven on the street a lot, night sort of stuff, and probably still a cast block in that world, that mid-range torque curve is everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now let him eat up top bro, they love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for advice, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I ran booze back in up top like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the billablock, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually spoke to I forgot his name, who's who owns a billablock on the bullet race Aaron?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, we have a long conversation About big RBs direction are going and the billablock and so on with Mac and what they're doing with it and so on
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but a lot of people don't really seem to want to run that in the States, and obviously you said that if you're running that you can't run a, you know, stock or pump on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to run it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was cautious.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to build block for the first time, and my problem wasn't whether it could hold the power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been proven so many times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just walking to any shop, took Croydon B to our beer on, most mechanical jam, whatever, just walking, like, and just be like, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Power was never the issue for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was more what service ability like okay when is the block Gonna it's expansion due to heat gonna cause me an issue with bearing clearance causing where when I'm gonna have to freshen it up like Those were the questions I had going on to build block and I don't know I haven't answered them all yet I've done enough working it to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, it's it's but the the Achilles heel of a billet block will always be temperature control and not in a not in a way that is like you can't keep temperature
[SPEAKER_02]: out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably keeping temperature in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when does it take to carry?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd warm it up in my pet.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have mind you, I have a 70 mil radiator in a 50-row oil cooler and like a 10-liter sun bright dry tank.
[SPEAKER_02]: It took 20 minutes to even be at a temperature that I could drive it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because a billet block expands vertically.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the belt on certain setups, someone has an adjustable tensioner, so I'm not going to say that that doesn't exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: But some shops don't want to use that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just want to have a belt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now when it's cold, the belt's pretty loose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then as the block heats up, it just expands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not talking shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is just a fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: And people have done it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've put them in the sun for a day and they grow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when they grow, obviously going to imagine compression ratio changes, bearing clearance has changed and how how tight the belt is changed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't we not talking about like, you can sit with the naked eye, but it's enough at an engine that level.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Croydon will say to me, don't even blip the throttle to 50 degrees water temp or over 50 degrees water temp.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't touch the throttle to let's hit the thermostat.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my coolant has reached like 78 degrees and even then my oil is still at 30 degrees Celsius.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't drive that car at all for like 15 minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: 15 minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's me being an engineer and mess me being in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fifteen minutes is enough to wipe the car down, take the bottle out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like that bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, have you coffee or whatever like, you know, I mean, like, we went out of car's block though and had a 10 liter dump.
[SPEAKER_02]: It took 15 minutes to warm up.
[SPEAKER_02]: The bill of blocks probably takes a little bit of a but what it does do is I'd warm it up, drive it down the pits it takes to a cave, turn the car off, 75 or all down's later, the car's cold again, I could warm it up again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes you get caught out, like, you're like, oh, quick, get in your car, you got a gun, like, man, I can't run yet, the car's too cold.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, some people just ignore it and they get away with it for a while, but I'm just one of those people that goes, I know that if I do that, there won't be any issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't want there to be any issue with that engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I spent it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a $80,000 Australian long motor, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to break it and I don't want to have to rebuild it every six months and I don't want to, like, I want it to last, that's the Aussie way, is like build it so it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if I have to warm it up that long every time I drive it and take good care of it and change it all every time, I have a cleavey filter to monitor the bearing where everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: If that allows for that engine to last four years instead of one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Think of it that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a race car engine, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're putting race car engines in street cars here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're sitting there wondering about complaining.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have to warm it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you kidding?
[SPEAKER_02]: The top of the guy that complains he has to warm it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly, he has to try to get some more and too much of a hurry.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought 15 minutes, I'm like, I was a long time, but no, it's really not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think I wait for, that's about right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Usually, you've got some more than water temp in your car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and that, and that, well, it's in the back right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and that car, yeah, 100%.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I care enough, I don't want to just be jumping in.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you've got a lot of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, then you have to keep the temperature in a window in a billet block to make sure that you keep it within, like, I guess, that sort of amount of expansion it has, because in theory, you're building the engine to suit that expansion of the block, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you want to drive it in a window?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say that window is between 75 and 85 degrees Celsius.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now my car has no problem doing that, because I've got a huge, right, out of huge oil cooler.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what was my bad thing at one end is my good thing at the other.
[SPEAKER_02]: We go on for drives in that car for two hours in traffic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I took it to Perth to go racing, and I drove from the track to the place we're going to shoot to the wheel line and back in traffic probably total out two hours of driving.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the next day at the track, I did some circuit laps in it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not saying full-blown time attack last, but like I had some fun around the circuit, so that it's drivable, it can come off a corner, it's nice, it's actually responsive, good car to drive, and I did like 300Ks in the out-of-and-the-better, I'll probably
[SPEAKER_02]: Got a hard time for a drag engine, which it's not, but so the most important part is basically just a warm-up You're saying I think the warm-up, but also if you want a warm-up quicker to go drag racing then you won't have the cooling system You need to go cruising So make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to build your build-up block to be out of drive on the street a lot Then the cooling system is important in terms of being out of hand-lip But now it takes longer to warm up, but if you're building a drag one on meth and all that's different You go tiny radiator
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you know, I mean like and it's on meth and all and they'll they'll actually build them with slightly different clearances to suit being out of kind of run a bit colder anyway So okay, so cooling is important to have it correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: So all it is with billet is temperature control like if you if you sum it all up It's that now obviously billet block.
[SPEAKER_02]: We go dry some also because they they like stupid oil pressure in them Okay, so we go dry something because just to make sure we don't have that problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's it all up?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm usually I'm cruising hot or idling like at fuller at full noise.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got 110 PS light full noise
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so are you waiting for your opportunity to get to a certain level before you start driving it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to let the weather come down because I run 1060, which everyone watched my video about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why should you use it in your A-B?
[SPEAKER_01]: Which means like, I don't know if we have.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have that here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we have 1060.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can order it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a cash for our ledge 1060.
[SPEAKER_02]: I used it in my college here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It worked really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Penrise 1060 is well, but it's a rice oil.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, my problem is the oil pressure is so high at idle, cold.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to wait for some temperature get out of it as well to let the oil pressure come down.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, if you've just done three passes and you come back, typical nature of a dry sun, but it's only 40 psi at idle, as soon as you touch the throttle goes straight to like 90.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when it's cold, I have like a hundred psi of oil pressure when I'm idling cold, and it just takes it just need to get time at a temperature drop down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it's also, I think, hey, that's high.
[SPEAKER_02]: At idle, it is, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Usually it's like 120.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, full noise, not at idle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll stay for for for for my car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah 120's good up full noise.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want a hundred to hundred and twenty-pace on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was going to be something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like 140 or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the big big ones are like over 150.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Straight ones know, but like some of the drag ones are over a hundred to pace on you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep the bearing alive here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you mentioned in one of the videos you commented about the because I was talking to I forgot who it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was mentioning that like a lot of people in Australia who have billaplocks don't daily drive them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you were like, well, these cars are like $400,000, like who's going to want to do a drive there?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be like, go to downtown airline, tell me you want to dial you draw a JTR.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you want to drive any JTR.
[SPEAKER_02]: This whole, oh, be with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shut up!
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't build like a $300,000 bill with a macular engine bay with an $80,000 long motor, $35,000 is all a strand of all.
[SPEAKER_02]: $35,000 is still expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't build that to go nearly drive it and wear it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, you save it for an occasion bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got 35, yeah, daily drive it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like hurricane daily drive it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I had a twin turbo 2000 horse power hurricane, I wouldn't daily drive that either.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you could do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could.
[SPEAKER_02]: But could I drive my 12-in-a-horsepower billet block as a daily?
[SPEAKER_02]: My version of day-to-day use.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I want to sit in traffic with a sequential and a big clutch.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, no one does, but not stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even want to, I don't even want to sit in traffic in a manual half the time because it's so that sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got calls to make and things to do and like relax.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to chill out if I go to sit in
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's okay all here because it's like there's you see the road here but if you said to me what I drive my 32 around here to go to a car meet to go to the track you hell yeah would you right right I mean we and that's what we do in Sydney okay just that the distance might not be as far right and sometimes you go yeah I'm not going to drive my 32 in peak hour to go to roll racing but I'll leave a bit early and I got good traffic I'm going to drive it so yeah it's more like that it's it's not that they can't drive on the street it's just most of the time we choose not to if that makes sense
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But those people are asking me to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they go through any of those power cars, man?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just stay out of the argument.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, unless you have a 1200 horsepower car that runs mid-eighths on the street, maybe stay out of the argument until then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone I know that has an eight second anything, or seven second anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, they can probably go to the gun.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's someone right now, it's gonna go, I daily drive myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might drive from your house to your work that's 800 meters away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I fight like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's face it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's spending that sort of money on a big build.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't daily drive my GDI when I had a stock bottom end, it made 600 wheel horsepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The cars are valuable, why would I want to put,
[SPEAKER_02]: Huge wear and tear on my pride and joy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's my baby like I want to enjoy that when I enjoy it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's If you do it every day, it takes some of the enjoyment and just the wear and tear on a daily driver of an old 90s Japanese car Sorry, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think about that either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's an older car maker.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a 30 or car and even I've made it so it can do it I just don't want it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, why would I?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no desire to drive it every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would take some of the novelty away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have been forced to drive a couple of turns for probably I want over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I've driven home from Croydon in full peak hour and like a 30, like a hot, like hotter than today, like hot day, no aircon, and driven it right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: No airdines.
[SPEAKER_02]: In peak hour with the bad clutch in it, I've changed real good one now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've done it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even know if I hit or do anything wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always just don't comfortable.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was more that I was uncomfortable than the car was uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_02]: The car was fine, the car's laughing at me going, you're an idiot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's take the air, drive me in this weather.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it really bad about the drive with the sequential?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really the worst this afternoon.
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, this sequential and the engine aren't actually the problem to drive.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I had a, like a, I guess, I had a clutch that had like a slight a clutch storm at Tureland, as opposed to like a Sarah metallic storm at Tureland.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd sent it to I and clutch.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was just man, he's bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great for Drag Race, do 10 runs a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the street clutch will hold the power, but it won't do like a prep track 1, 3, and the 60 10 times in a day, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that I'm back on that clutch, it clutch is not an issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, the gearbox isn't even an issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can drive a dogbox, like it's a normal gearbox in my brain.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I don't even have to think about it anymore, because I've done them for so long.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: having fixed bucket seats with a roll cage is probably more annoying than the dog box.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now if I would have put recliners back in mine and put aircon back in it, oh man, it'd draw fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the suspension, it's not the brakes, it's not the gearbox, it's not even the clutch anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually the seats and the harness is missing me off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it makes sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I took, but if I took the seats and harnesses out of it, probably die, like, so I'd rather not die and enjoy the car,
[SPEAKER_01]: No, because you know we got the phvg coming soon, so, you know, I just, you know, want to make sure that's smooth.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's smooth, like Barry Watts' voice and it's like, oh, there we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's, now they drive great.
[SPEAKER_02]: What, but you, you do need to understand how they work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have never driven one, have never tried to, how they work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong, you can just get in there and drive it with a clutch and just change gears and use the clutch and be normal when you go, it's not too bad, but as you get better at it you start learning like exactly how to like nail a perfect shift upshift or downshift.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you get your flat shift we closed loop done properly and you have a time based like power return.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't just so close loop, I hate open loop flat shift open loop flat shift is if I pull the lever once you feel how much strain there is on that lever it just tells it to cut it for however many milliseconds.
[SPEAKER_02]: No gear changes the same so you can't have a fixed time you've got to over time it So the gear changes too long.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a really long gear change so that you can make sure that any gear change works When you have closed loop the strain gauge tells the ECU how I want a shift So does the ignition cut then the shift happens But the ECU doesn't try to give you any power back into the rotary position sensor goes I'm in gear now
[SPEAKER_02]: So once it's in gear and the road position says I'm in second gear now, then the easy goes cool, he's the power back.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the right that it brings that power back that changes how it drives.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you know how to tune properly, you change the rate of return based on boost pressure on RPM.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're at one pound of boost at 4,000 RPM, you clearly just don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it knows, return the power over almost like an exponential time chart to kind of be a slow return.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's smooth and soft.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you're like 90 to 100 RPM, power, you want bangs and pops and then it's like, yeah, give all the power back right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, as soon as it's in gear, it's like, bring the power back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a fast and gadget because you're driving flat out though, that needs to come back quick like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, you get like, you see the head jolt, if you, yeah, it's not a fast enough shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what that does.
[SPEAKER_02]: So close loop flat shift just makes for a really nice car.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can do, if you go electronic floor, you can do blip on down shift, you can do clutch with down shift, everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this universal though?
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you like, is that some you can share across, you know, several different setups?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the sequential is a pretty much, you're pretty much saying not every sequential has a, like a blade sensor inside that has an actual position gear position sensor in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them still use very rudimentary, like they'll just have a strain gauge and there's nothing in the gearbox.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, not all of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: PPG has an actual position sensor.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not guessing the gear based on RPM versus road speed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like an ECU can do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell you ECU is somewhat geomine and it just measures RPM versus road speed.
[SPEAKER_02]: With the sequential, it's like that road position in the PPG is the blade sensor they have.
[SPEAKER_02]: That just tells you it's in gear now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen people put a PPG in and do time-based gear shifts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: We do them in, like set it up, the technology's there, do it properly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you drive a closed loop, like flat shift set up, once again, I can point back to the mine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like a key.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the point, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: The point of building my car was so that I could show you this stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the point.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not me keeps saying I look at my car, it's the best one.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what a normal car builder would kind of can say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I built that car to show people.
[SPEAKER_02]: how to make these things work and what works and what doesn't test things.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if my card didn't do the best version of it, I've failed at my audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if any of you want to be right now going, I know that sounds arrogant to say, keep looking at my card for how to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's only if you think of me as just a guy that built a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you'd now look at it the other way and go, no, modi video, test products, showcases product, put some through their places and show you what you should do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then in theory, if it wasn't the best version of it, I've done it wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's so anyway, watching, I can't know I'm done to stand that the reason I'm saying is, check out a video of that is you'll see how the flat chef working properly can be really nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you can get another car and stuff rough as guts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are certain boxes that are rougher, but they're also a dedicated race box.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the biggest thing I usually say to people if you want it for street or racing only is a street one needs to have helical cut gears.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not stupidly loud.
[SPEAKER_02]: The dog engage with irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do that with a ppg, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Ppg is helical cut.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's always garkin.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Sam's son is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's helical cut gears.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, why somebody told us it's all street cut.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: You listen to me, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you, okay, you can have dog in game so it's not, it's not as loud as other transmission.
[SPEAKER_02]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has some noise and enough to go, ooh, I've got a gearbox, but not really.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and you know that full bone, like, off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now don't mind off its head straight cut in my time attack car because time attack car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Never goes on the run.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is Alvin's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: is it straight cut or you have absolutely no albums a straight cut it's a race box they built up only for racing.
[SPEAKER_02]: PPG actually where it said let's make it so that a straight car can use it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was guy can did the same thing but I was guy can's kind of like the older technology while PPG's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But albums, Holinger and Sam Sonas are straight cut.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all great boxes.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've all done
[SPEAKER_01]: But don't you just need more to get a stamp on us to work like other accessories to get it to run?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it depends what you say you have.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the other gearboxes, like you have to get a billhousing adapter or stuff like that, but you can order from PPPG the box, it bolts in, you can bolt your transfer case.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can even say them, can you farm your transfer case and build it and that would you transfer case?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can literally then have gearbox and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you've already got the only thing that changes those
[SPEAKER_02]: have to go to the largest like the GM style splines.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can have a bigger input shaft.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you can ring most clutch places and go, I want the same clutch but with the different spline in the plates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like direct clutch serves as all I use.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can just ring them and go, I need a box, I need a clutch for a PBG.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or for every use, always gaking clutch.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty pretty popular over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have, but I, like, why would I use them when I can use direct, which, not always saying, obviously not saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're expecting, because that's what we run over here, we weren't in America.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, always Skykins are pretty popular, option for RBs, honestly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody pretty much runs that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're mixed back with them, believe it or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I've driven a couple that are epic and I've driven a couple like dancing by it's hard, like it's not nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of like neutralize them to be a little bit honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: The great product, like in terms of working, I was geeking to a great brand.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, that's not an issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you go personally opinion for like drive ability, yeah, some have been good, some have so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a bit of hitting me, actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: But overall, like if someone said, I don't put an hour's geek in clutch, and I'd be like, cool, like cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we can't get the right to over here, can we?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you can order it, just tariffs in this and that, and like, by the time a getty, is it twin triple?
[SPEAKER_02]: Quad twin twin.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they can make it suit anything from 400 to 2000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And have you noticed any drivability issues between twin, quad, triple?
[SPEAKER_02]: the theory is there that like a quad plate should drive the best because you can have the same clamping force have more plates and hold more, but for some reason every time I drive a quad plate, it's so heavy and crazy, I'm like, what the hell?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so Twin is probably a good balance between all of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, look, I've asked the other thing about a twin is the packaging can keep into a size that allows you to use like a factory bearing, carry a factory clutch fork, so a lot of people don't think about things like that, like right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So with a twin plate from direct clutch to reason, I'm pretty always really happy with it is I just get it in the car easily.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not an issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, like, that plates are rebuildable by anybody if you had to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if I was in America and I had just war one out, I could go to a clutch place and say, see this ceramic toilet clutch plate, yeah, just punch those, like, rivets out of it and put a new plate on that, that new center part with the spline in it, or I could say, can you just put new ceramic, like, pucks on it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you could rebuild it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's simple, but it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the drivability on the street version of it, oh man, I hated my 32 for a while there when it had the scented eye on it, it was gross.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's still the drag one.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a drag one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they even they said, it's going to drive like crap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: But so does any clutch that has to do eight passes on a track, and I do a one through in the 60, 10 times, that makes 200 horsepower, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what, sorry, that's what's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other one can do it, but it will just be melted.
[SPEAKER_02]: but the end of the day and be unusable, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But the other one is like, okay, cool, let's go again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I did that because I knew I was going to be at TXTK and be racing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then when I kind of got back to Australia after the defects bloated on the start line, factory R200, I had replaced everything else in the drive-train except for the re-cround opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I hadn't gone billet diff yet, and yeah, I left it on the start line.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, TJ.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's that was yeah, that's kind of that pathway down with that, but when you get a good clutch in it Yeah, it's important, but the direct clutch is like it handles 1200 handles a three cx, but at the same time He's it drives like Drives like having like one up from a factory one like it's so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can take off with no throttle and like just yeah, yeah, it's great now love like I love drive my car again
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've been having nothing but issues with my clutch, but I think I kind of figured it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not, not neat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't want to see that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's more of a pedal problem than the clutch problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: People don't get that right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually tried seven different new, like clutch rods in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And two different size clutch slaves in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm dealing with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just to get it how I wanted it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even the pedal stopper, everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: People just throw it in and go, I better work first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you might want to go get an IQ test or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I get a H-Patton is a H-Patton.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a quenchant of H-Patton.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's a shift-paton direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can a sequential shift slightly quicker due to the linkage inside?
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you miss a gear?
[SPEAKER_02]: Kinder.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you have a H-Patton dogbox with Strait Cut Gaze, all right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is a H, this is a Strait Cut with Dog Engagement.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, they can both clutchless shift agreed?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they both have a strain gauge on them, they can both do a full throttle shift, correct?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, if you have a lockout shifter, if you have a lockout shifter on your four-speed H-Patton, can't miss a gear again, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: First, bang second, lockout means gotta go third, fourth.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't miss a gear, you can flat shift, and you can clutchless shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, they both do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the difference?
[SPEAKER_01]: She's cutting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's cutting.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's cutting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Both manual shut up.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're even boasting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it could just be as simple as if it has a clutch, no?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they both have a clutch.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still a manual.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just how I look at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: In my opinion, technically, it's a stick and you shift it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a stick sheet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've already adjusted it now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: The class is hate patting shifting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about, okay, you're not a super guy, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you ever put a ZF transmission in a super?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: You would.
[SPEAKER_02]: On a straight car, an I-D-H-P-E-Stall gearbox, ZF-Stall gearbox.
[SPEAKER_02]: Find an 8-speed one, so the right show is with SIG.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mark for a super.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you could paddle shifter, or you could do like one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, so you'd put that in a super and mark for super.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably before I put in a JDR, I'd be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you don't think that that's like lame to put a ZF in a what are you in the car for?
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you can go that route too, but like as far as excitement you're driven a really good at HP It's a mark for my car came with one
[SPEAKER_02]: But exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just I think I bored of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really got bored of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just it looks good.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you said would you check is sequential out of your JDR?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm putting that age pain.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't know when that sounds even that's a question.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm gonna put the handbag on and cut my bulls up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so it's okay then.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay then, but you put in and it's the way I'm bag when you drive through the city.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you wouldn't, you wouldn't treat it for, you wouldn't treat it as a question for ZF, but you put it in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would I rather have an HP than a five-speed H-patten Syncro box out of a skyline GDR?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think you need to look at compared to what.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm building a gold 33 GDR, a lot of our viewers say hurry up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually want to try that an H-P unit, because I feel like as a genuine streetcar, I want to enjoy in Sydney, I want air, kind of a stereo, and sound ending in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If had an H-P, I'd now can go mode one,
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can also take a phone call and have a normal life and my daughter can go to breakfast and like, you know, I mean, even a normal girl that's not into cars can go, oh, well, you know, that's like oh, and we can go to dinner, but she goes on my 32-GD, I actually let me out of this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: She says I'm staying, then maybe she's a keeper.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you said a five-speed H patent, which has terrible ratios, drops off booze between gear changes, is laggy and will break.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I rather
[SPEAKER_01]: What about it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay, what about a T-P-P-P-6, and I'm not for Super compared to 80's P. And if you heard that sound when they do that and they change it, they drop our booths, like, I mean, you could flash for Shift 2, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, with a Syncro-A, it's not the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not the same, but unless you do, like, uh, like, uh, what is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think what I'm saying is I would take an 8-HP over a Syncro-H button.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: For a fast car that I want to work and enjoy,
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, in a drift car, no, in a circuit car, no, in a street car, yeah, even a drag car, almost like a one.
[SPEAKER_02]: An 8HP is going to be easier to set up and get to launch and go through those short gears and set that up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be better to drive, won't drop off those compared to a H-Batton Syncro.
[SPEAKER_02]: I watch some of the super is it takes to pay with H-Patch this.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's Mike Fives?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Fores.
[SPEAKER_02]: With H-Patch and just like a matter of how fast he tried to shift, it just still like, you could just see that dropping boost and come back on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've wasted time for trying to go fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: H-H-H-HP won't do that anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a trash bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: What about for street use?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just to slow it the street then like it's probably worse and then it blows the tires off But at least an adage pay I can be like bang bang bang bang bang Like plexigree isn't like no, it's it's fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really fast Gear ratios and diff ratios is the most underrated thing people look at when it's changing their car And that's the same with the GTR that's true too.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact I would dare say that the greatest thing you can do to a skull and GDR is a get-tracks six per week four elevens in it Four elevens if you have an a 34 GDR right now We'll get every camera if you have an a 34 GDR and you're not putting four elevens in it
[SPEAKER_02]: You're actually making your life worse and you don't know, like, it's that good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all a drive, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you put a get-trag in a 32 or 33, it just totally changes the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's character, it's jobability, it's response.
[SPEAKER_02]: All that response, I won't response in my JDR.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's people going to argue with this, mostly bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think I'm so I have I have a three 15, which is a stock my one five super ratio and That it just feels so lazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great for highway.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's not exciting for 11's in it with a CD I don't want to have a three I have a 385 now, but what's how different the car is it will suddenly be responsive I've proven this multiple times someone has a five speed I put a six B with four 11's in all of a sudden.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, this is super responsive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, because you changed different Yeah, right the mind's GTR the most famous video of an R34 video everyone goes
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an animal, it's a weapon, it's got super-response engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, man, that engine's nothing different to everything else we've built.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just had really short differentiations in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard rumors of up to four Sikhs, but I know it had four or elevens or four three things.
[SPEAKER_02]: On the really small tracks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you watched that mine's G.T.R.
[SPEAKER_02]: video and put your hand over the speedo and turn the sound off and tell me how fast you think it looks, you'll go, okay, it's fast, but it's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're carrying on like it's the craziest thing ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've built cars that are more responsive than that on camera to drive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did that mine's replica in Sydney.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had Vcam, low mounts, and a four-threes with a six-speed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had thing was insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like I'd have thousand horsepower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It had 650.
[SPEAKER_02]: My 32 when I did the get-tracking it and did twin versus single.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone couldn't believe how wild I was like you did realize a six-speed before 11.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, like the dyno graph is still the dyno graph, because fifth gear, one to one is still one to one, like it's either fifth or fourth or on the dyno, the comparison is direct, the same diff ratio is is now fifth or fourth is one to one, but on the street different car if you haven't got four or elevens in your car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, but you're talking about for all a drive on this evening, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for every all a drive on.
[SPEAKER_01]: She blow the tires off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's different.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then it's a compromise.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the other thing that happens when you have an HP.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can short shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: As you come on boost in first gear, rather than let it then blow the tires, I've tried to pedal your way through that will spin before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool second.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't drop off boost.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know the hole in the hole in the hole in the hole in the hole in the hole.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know that one, we see it all the time, but if you have an ADHD, you can kind of like, as you kind of come on boost, you feel that torque sort of right in, you can short ship in a second, now it doesn't drop off boost, now you've got, like, still got boost in the next gear without drop on off, but you've got less torque by the tires off, so you can short shift your way through the first three gears to try and get some road speed underneath you before you rev it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: This driving style is like, people don't think of this stuff, so yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a sequential, same deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can short shift into the next gear.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can pretty much shift first a second at any time, it doesn't really matter, like it just stays on boost keeps going.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if I had a H-pat and Sincro box, which I don't know why people still argue with, you know, the other type of manual, you change short shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it'll generally drop off boost.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not talking about V8s and stuff, they don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, you know, 1, 6, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
[SPEAKER_02]: So what you do to your suspension set up, do you want to make your street cast slightly better at drag racing or slightly better at circuit racing, they're two different alignments, do you want to make it slightly better at drag racing or circuit when it comes to every part of the car, kind of has changes of direction just a little bit if you make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, but I can you can go either way, I can build either one.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's change gears a little bit and talk about GTR Festival, of course, as I said before, I will be attending, which I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are we expecting to see in Australia at GTR Festival this year?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is our 10th anniversary, so I'll have to obviously make a big impact.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be bringing it in, will you bring it in?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're right now, I can't say it's happening, but it's in the process.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unless something happens with things around the world, I want to have an active carbon car at the event, not just Sacramento today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to make a car to Merubi back, obviously, you know, the Godfather of modern JDR will be there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're coming over.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like the biggest guest.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about anything else I have to use.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you guys doing up?
[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan from shipbox garage is coming out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan's coming out to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's going to make for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to make a pretty word.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got some muddy car mods will be there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be there again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jay Duker from low stands.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up with Tommy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he's going or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't spoken to him actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so Tommy is a, I just texted me the day about the cylinder has a situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he said send it to him and fix it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was looking for one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he has one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you got one, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's alright, you holding out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I feel like he's not into like big power stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not, but like I said earlier that like if I lived in Connecticut, I would grow up with like a 400 wheel horse power silver would be perfect because of the type of driving you do where you leave how you use your car, yeah, that what Tommy's into is a lot I've heard you can say whatever you want about him with his styles and that right he build some stylish cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: He feels like clean, like, I've driven a lot of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've actually helped tune some of them with like being there with pretty well his tune and them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And sort of like talked about some things to kind of change and sort of like do these try that and like, oh yeah, it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and then they're good cars to drive, but they're just totally different to Australia.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We start with painted engine bays and custom wiring looms and custom everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have heaps of fabric while Tommy's like, I want it to bolt on from HKS.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he does restoration clean up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but his restoration is like he'll take a part off and restore that part and put it back on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Australia buys a whole new custom part.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_01]: See, okay, I got it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of like the way I got it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that leads to a different look and feel, which is fine, if he wants to keep driving slow cars, that's fine with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I've driven some of these cars, and they're great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not that he has to lock or not lock what we do.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he can say, I don't lock that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'm not saying that's what he said.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't feel like he was impressed, because he mentioned a couple times.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he was on a different podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's on it's like RB30 swaps and things like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, you know, you're 2,000 horsepower RB, you know, like he's not really into that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just call, but I know guys, I can give them dead stock that are purest too, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool too.
[SPEAKER_02]: One thing I've learned about doing GTR first of all is, everyone seems to think, I don't know everyone, but a lot of it was originally kind of thought, maybe that's all I mean to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thousands of bad GDRs, that's what.
[SPEAKER_02]: But do you want to watch 300 horsepower GDRs go down in an airport runway at Kudemundro and I hold GDR challenge?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It can be the competition led to what it sounds like.
[SPEAKER_02]: But do you get what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you when you're creating content at an event or you've got a YouTube channel,
[SPEAKER_02]: You we all know you've got a you can't just feature for a hundred horsepower stock jet yards all the time now It's a super rare collect the thing different a thousand two Yeah No, we're doing Japanese run on nine's bay and eight's back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then anyway All right, ninety seven so I've learnt now that as I've gone around the world more people started to realize like I Sorry, Andrew it doesn't make your usual thousand like dude like I don't care like
[SPEAKER_02]: I like what I like.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like all of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: One minute, I mean, a dude's private collection looking at like a one of something rare car.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next minute, I mean, Japan looking at a time capsule GTR with like, you know, drag wing on the back and drag radios and like a T88 from a garage active.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like it was built in 2002.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it good by modern standards from a technological standpoint?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but it's gangster like it's
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who car like things can be cool if they don't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it like most human things that are cool I actually not the most functional way to do it usually the functional ways the boring way, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I get that that's human nature, but I fight between like the logic side of the brain, which is the engineer side and Just the car enthusiast passionate side sometimes fight each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got things I like in a cuckoo
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, it's cool, but my logic brain goes, actually, that's pretty stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's just nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I went to the UK and they had a certain thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went to Germany where they can't really do performance mods and metal or GTR guys there, but then the way they done things differently, it's all good.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, I don't sit there and try and go, there's only one way to build a GDR.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you try and argue me about what actually physically works, as in from taking that car from point A to point B as fast as you can objectively, not subjectively, that's a different argument.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you just go to me, oh man, I put these parts on it and this old HK's 51RX, I love the sound.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do it, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to build the best version of that car, and it actually is a noise me when people build a really nice street car and then they go to the drags and they go,
[SPEAKER_02]: that paragraph meant you should have run this mine out, do shut up, kiss.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but the guy enjoys car, not every car needs to go to the track and do exactly what that power level should say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, when I built my one car, it has to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was time attack car has to do lap times, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if I build a cool back street,
[SPEAKER_02]: S14 Silver.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to drive on the street and it makes 350 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't kill the lap time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, it's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's nothing wrong with wanting to build a car that's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: A car that's fast or a car that's a collector's item, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or a Resto toll style thing where you're almost the curator of that car, you know, look.
[SPEAKER_02]: your it's custodian.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: People that try to get angry at each other about what they do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The custodian of a stock car tells me can tell you, are you butchered your car, how dare you butcher it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it always is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the guy with seven and horse pack goes, oh, your car might be fast, but is it fun on a back road?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like all of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy looking at it and take peace one minute and drive in a 2,000 horsepower GTR the next.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy at TX2K.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy at some secret collection.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy at a cars and coffee.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy at all of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as far as I'm concerned, I just wish more people understood that GTR Festival, which is obviously able to all nissons, is exactly that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bring up.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't have a nisson and you want to go to GTR Fest and nisson festival, go to the rental car company and hire an Altama.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can park in the car meet part of it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You matter to get the show and shine bit, but just mind you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once you jump in that out of my be prepared, you can probably get chased by the police.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do 97 mile an hour, the whole way to the end of smoke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, motor plagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be an easy side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe not an hour too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe get a Murano or something like a pathfinder or I don't know, like anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, you guys got tightens over there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we don't have tons.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we haven't got tons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what was it, uh, I drove last year, the big truck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our biggest truck there's a Navara.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he does that big patrol patrol.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the patrol.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the VA, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: See, if you drove a patrol, you could get chased by a patrol car at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's a terrible Daddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I paid my ticket from out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you're back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hope that's how to pay that ticket.
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, I forgot about that route.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's there with speed cameras on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you told me that and I was like
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you got done twice, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think you get one done, one, oh twice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, you got to cut the toes as well as some, I can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tows!
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a speedy speeding ticket.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you got to speed in ticket though.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like literally what I first drove.
[SPEAKER_02]: And would have been like, I wasn't like seven caves over or something stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was nothing as well, wasn't I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it was in a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, direct to the whole JDR fest with things is, you know, I want people watching to understand.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you've got a collector JDR bring it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you've got a stock Nissan, it's all about supporting, like, you might not have a JTR, but you've got the little brother, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's all part of the Nissan family.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we just want everyone to come and have a good time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether you, and I want people to understand, we have an open fund run session on the drag steps.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can run, you, I know a guy
[SPEAKER_02]: three quarters of a million dollars a piece of fun wow like you know Andrew Evans and from garage at zero runs he's zero are he runs he's 400 are like I don't care what it runs I just care that like someone's enjoying their car yeah so people just I want people to understand that concept we in Australia people know that already I'm just in America we're just trying to get that across the people that is you can have a promo or you can have a stock
[SPEAKER_02]: R32, Skyline, GDR, one of 550 Nismo's or whatever, whatever you want, you can park it and hang out or you can race it or you can do whatever, like it's just enjoy the event and just enjoy the fact we've got all these cars there, that's the whole point of it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one greedy way to say it is, I just wanted all the GDRs to come to me, so I could see them all.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's at all the events, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you're doing, you got, I heard you got Japan, New Zealand, you got Australia, of course, you got America, am I missing a few?
[SPEAKER_01]: UK.
[SPEAKER_02]: UK, so this year is Australia on May 22nd, 23rd, New Zealand on June 6th, then we have the UK on August 15th, 16th, and then we have USA, 13th, 15th in November.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are working on Japan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you had Japan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not quite, we're getting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say it's 27, I just want to say I'm working on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Does that mean it will happen?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that'll be bigger than Australia?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: No way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Way.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many GTRs over there, that doesn't mean they'll all go.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was curious about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a long attack to take the drive across Japan?
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, could Japan end up bigger?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, based on how many cars could go?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Theory, it could be bigger.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK. Will it get bigger?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just... You think, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But how many are the potential to be the biggest?
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with USA is that it's just a heartbeat thing, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there's our 35's everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have a DCT class.
[SPEAKER_02]: So our 35 versus V10, that's already hundreds of race cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The roll racing's open to everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's street car, street car.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Dodge Viper can go.
[SPEAKER_02]: My stands can go.
[SPEAKER_02]: As long as that's why we've got barres for the crowds.
[SPEAKER_02]: So my stands can go.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK. OK. And we've got drifting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can bring an S14 with an LS, and it just hang out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you can't have any nissons there are in Texas, I bet it is 50,000 nissons there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Minimum, if you just work at how many nissons there are, that's what I mean, Nissan's.
[SPEAKER_02]: But GTR, I get it, but it's in GTR and Nissan Festival.
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of festivals, I am looking at other locations in the U.S. to hold potentially rather than a GTR festival, it's a nisson festival that's probably a little bit more evenly focused between cruising, drifting, timer tackle, circuit and roll racing, where
[SPEAKER_01]: I am looking at holding these infestables in the U.S. Well, my advice, if I can, it's to do it in Florida, because Florida has all of the... Are you trying to look at social media today?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd probably stop a picture of me at all and I'd say, well, today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh!
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not paying attention.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't see that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just priced it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I priced it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that'd be the best option.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying it's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying I went there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Florida is like the hub for like Nissan's.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want me to like blurt out some top of plan, it would be to have GTR Festival in Texas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have a Nissan Festival in Florida, a Nissan Festival in Connecticut, and a Nissan Festival in California.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't you do GTR Festival in Florida though?
[SPEAKER_01]: GTR Festival with skyscrapers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's there now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can go for half an hour in the reasons why.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they'll all make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: And once I say them, everyone will go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever reason you think I am or am not going there or am not doing it in Florida, cross me.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I laid them all that and listed them, you will go, OK, you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go to the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, this is face it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got T1, Joe Tech.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the other guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just those four shops have enough V10s and R35s to put on a show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's close to a city center, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a central hub.
[SPEAKER_02]: East Coast will go here.
[SPEAKER_02]: West Coast will go there, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but no one from the West Coast's come a photo.
[SPEAKER_02]: And definitely no one from Florida's gone on the West Coast.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a midway point for the city.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now people come in from Canada, like Seattle everywhere, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and also I already had people I knew there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm established there, it's just,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_02]: someone a couple of people have said to me could you hold an event where you remove the word GT after front of it and put something else like as in something festival.
[SPEAKER_01]: Street Alpha Festival.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, we're announcing Street Alpha Festival, 2027.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, yeah, you want to do it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's just say that maybe it's serious, huh?
[SPEAKER_02]: Now maybe the potential for a festival where the letters in front of it might be that engine owners that like commenting on all your RBB videos.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you say, maybe a JZ festival.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: JZ festival, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you got LNL?
[SPEAKER_01]: You got LNL?
[SPEAKER_02]: You got LNL?
[SPEAKER_02]: JZ festival?
[SPEAKER_02]: Who was a JZ festival?
[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond say once it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't want you to watch the GZ festival man a couple of people have asked me said could you help put that together?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's I've got a J.
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about this right.
[SPEAKER_02]: L. S. Fest is huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the engines are in everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: So J.
[SPEAKER_02]: Z. Fest of all the engines are in everything from drag to drift to everything like street cars.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can find a J.
[SPEAKER_02]: Z in a post event, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about how many J.
[SPEAKER_02]: Z's come together in party like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But not.
[SPEAKER_02]: not a drag event, not a super event, a JZ event.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, the person, the people of Approachment basically said, can you take that formula of GDI Festival and turn it into that?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, that would be pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: You think you'd get the support though?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, because you're a GTR guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you do good events, you do good events.
[SPEAKER_02]: People know how a car enthusiast is throwing through regards.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if the person I'm partnering with is a massive person in the JZ scene,
[SPEAKER_01]: true make sense right yeah you're going to part with someone part of someone that's big in that industry and the people I'm talking to are big in that industry so I don't think it'll be a problem so well I will be bringing my super over there we're going to show out you know we're going to put some times down we're going to show these jazzy guys it's really about I'm real drive now all the drive but it's okay
[SPEAKER_02]: If I do a Jay Z if I'm bringing my own journey I'll be lined up with the staging lanes with a kill people I'm just talking crazy right now bring it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a Toyota.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be parked up Yeah, I can't those guys like the talk a lot, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm putting it on my boost and how does that sound Put on the motive those guys with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will get you out But yeah, the point look the plan is I think the style event that I run over here has proved that people kind of like it over here I mean, it's
[SPEAKER_02]: So what you want about crowd like so what you want we've events two years in two years You find me another event.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's two years in that didn't have ten million dollars And that track also correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, find another event where someone from another country come up with no financial backing No investment no partner and put on event with that many people out of it in their first two years and I'll go shake their hand and ask them what to do
[SPEAKER_02]: So where new we're growing organically we're not throwing stupid money so it goes broke if it goes wrong Like I don't have a partner investor in it so for me it's just I just hustle make it work So we'll keep growing it we'll keep trying to make it better That's all I can say really is just that's all I want to do That's why everyone have a good time coming together have a party and just have fun and if that's what we can do that's that's job done
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think the event will get bigger once Herman comes up with these damn blocks We waiting for a man.
[SPEAKER_01]: We waiting for the and a cylinder head.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need a cylinder head, bro Probably been white and longer for short.
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone been white and for those cylinder heads though It's been a couple years I mean the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh a few months a few months It's like my car build.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying three months and it's been two years like come on man get it what we doing here
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it blocks us starting to go out.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we need to know.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been hearing that since 2000, 20, 30.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep hammering.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, hurry up, Herman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Herman, hurry up, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hurry up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, it's...
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what's that happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think more people will be...
[SPEAKER_01]: involved in the RBZ.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, also I think the good thing about his car's block he's trying to do is it removes some of those intricacies of a billet block.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is nothing wrong with those, but there's the area where that block's going to work is A, a replacement block.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, finding in one block brand new in a box, you won't just it doesn't exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it did, that's somebody's got it sitting and there's someone's got it's Sacramento does.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got like 10 of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are Sacramento, everybody goes nuts, reserved for bills for the next five years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like just,
[SPEAKER_02]: But if someone does pop up, they want like $15,000 for no one block, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm
[SPEAKER_02]: it's a bit hit and miss and I unfortunately had that bottom end like of that scale where mine fell apart at 117 euros per hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're also all a dry right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll drive her to more years from the twist on the road drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a right, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just spin tires and look cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just do a good thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that'll fit a perfect opportunity in the market for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'd want it to hurry up and be ready and be out there and we're waiting.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are waiting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll use one at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to eventually write like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You already built it, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: You good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'll save the blocks with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I have another JDR in the build right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get unvalued to JDR festival with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing like what you think I would build either.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it might as well be the opposite of everything I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be so cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It might irritate Tommy too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really hope it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, now I'm curious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're going to love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tie off camera later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm curious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when I show you, it's all going to click.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm there for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm building something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to show everyone I can build every type of JDR.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm curious to know what this is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we'll hear off camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: Off camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's just tell them to go to duty office.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll now then one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if you want to purchase tickets to go to GTO Festival for it 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all open.
[SPEAKER_02]: So tickets for Australia, open on our website.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys up on our website America's now open on our website.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get a discount, the earlier you book, bigger discount you get 75% off today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Only.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Events are also people forget they've been in a economy, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you put on a good race event, race is want to go racing, guess where they spend that money to go racing at those workshops?
[SPEAKER_02]: What are the workshops then do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Develop more parts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get faster.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if there's no events to go faster out, that are worth racing at, then there's no development.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, the vendors, you're not going to make cool stuff for us to buy if they've got nowhere to sell it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I need it to work for everybody from the guy who can just afford a spectator ticket who drives their on his own doesn't know anyone what's his day like what's a VIP what does he get what's his day like?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's a racist day like has it look for the traders so for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's all going to work and I want to I want to bring that mentality forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not just the gdfs or with any other event.
[SPEAKER_02]: So
[SPEAKER_02]: May or may not end up doing in the US.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got big dreams over here, but you know how America goes, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can dream big and make it, but you can dream big and fake it and then dream big and lose it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's one of the course.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the cars I need to be cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's just always been my thing
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this has been great, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for taking it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So guys, just live one hour one hour one hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said you'll be got one hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been two hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was a great conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly didn't think it was two hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can, you obviously know where people can purchase to take it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so on.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can let them know where to follow you or to find you on social media.
[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously we have a GTR Festival Facebook and Instagram, Modi Video or Motive Underscore Video on Instagram, youtube.com slash Modi Video, a Facebook page, which all people in Australia still use for a Modi video.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got my own personal one, Andrew, underscore Horko for Instagram, and then obviously GTRFestival.com for the actual information.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can get that.
[SPEAKER_02]: People go to Instagram and go, where is the schedule like it's on our website?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So everything you want in terms of classes, website has all of that for like racing categories, entry information, schedules, etc.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's on the website.
[SPEAKER_02]: So GDFS would or Chrome.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then just pick what country you want to look at.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also we keep adding countries to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
[SPEAKER_02]: You view as you comment below.
[SPEAKER_02]: What countries should we go to with GDFS?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're hitting all the car stuff like all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe South Africa.
[SPEAKER_02]: South Africa.
[SPEAKER_01]: South Africa.
[SPEAKER_01]: They got some stuff over there hurt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my friend Andre in Dallas is from South Africa.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm used to build you in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, South Africa's got a car scene over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they got those hill climb monsters over there too.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do bye.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're working on a U.S. We're working on a Middle East JDR Festival at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously now, he's not the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But do priorities.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Qatar, Bahrain, U.A.E., one of the other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a, I could talk an hour about the economy, how it works over there, the culture, the car scene, what would require to make an event work.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've trust me.
[SPEAKER_02]: looking into it a lot yeah but that's a that would be a whole podcast just to even explain to you how to work out where we have the event and why right um but it's one of those things where to become a proper destination event where we bring cars from all over the world for like almost a GTR world championship not an American world cup like an actual GTR world championship two cars from five other countries like so ten cars come in something like that it would need backing like you would need
[SPEAKER_02]: either the government or a royal family to go, you know what, we want this to happen because of the tourism will help with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you didn't have that backing, the cost of the facilities and the cost of an event and the cost of the transport, it wouldn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I would tell you right now, most motorsport events like Formula One, Supercars and Australia all have government backing, all of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Most of them would never make a dollar if they were just private business.
[SPEAKER_02]: a lot, some would, but many of them lose money because the government wants them there for tourism.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if anyone doesn't know that, I'll believe that, start researching.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you right now, all the big motors, what events, a majority of them, no, have government backing to be there, in some way or another.
[SPEAKER_02]: And without that government backing, they wouldn't go to that country or that city.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we haven't done any of that with our business, but if we wanted to go to the next level and do something there, we would need some type of help.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's in the works.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in the works.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's in the works.
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully we'll see you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see DTR Festival in different parts of the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we know, it's in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we've been attending and also have been Australia in the next two months.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think coming to Zealand too, if you want, it's only two weeks after the first one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just made you go to hang out with me for two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll think about that might be it might be a few of those trust so my girlfriend might hate me for a little bit, but uh Yeah, so thank you so much for your time We're trying to we got to we got a car to me to Yeah, I know it's like I just looked at Liam like oh, so thank you for coming now, but thank you so much for your time I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll we'll see you guys in Australia if you guys are watching from Australia I will see you there will be there and we'll be having some Content come out from there too of logs and whatever else maybe some podcasts as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need Matukes on the podcast
[SPEAKER_02]: It took us through on a podcast happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely going to get what you're going to buy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we're going to definitely get in here and I want to get Mike Mansour on a podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: All the other sub-todos if you get him excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright then, thank you so much for your time.
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