[SPEAKER_02]: What is up, everybody?
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the stack on Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Justin.
[SPEAKER_02]: and on the stack we talk about a bunch of books that have come out this week and we review them so let's get into the reviews but before we do I want to just make it clear spoiler warning here for everything we talk about for no particular reason I guess we'll see what happens when we talk about these books I also do what I mentioned if you want add free versions of this podcast and all the podcast we do patreon.com slash comic book club but
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're not here to spoil.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't have to call these spoilers.
[SPEAKER_03]: These are nuggets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nugs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are celebrations.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the way that I would describe them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's celebrate our first title.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then I'm 256 from Marvel written by Alguying Art by Carlos Gomez.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's continue with the death spiral storyline as a new villain named Torment is coming straight
[SPEAKER_02]: A. K. Venom carnage and spider bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I did that over right not 100% sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, as we ended last issue torment is coming for Dylan Brock he's not quite ready to take on any Brock yet because what he does is he spirals in on the family.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a thing concept we all know and understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: And especially outside when you're murdering.
[SPEAKER_03]: For you get to the insatisfaction.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a really like pump yourself up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Star Trek rules.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a it's time travel.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to do a slingshot maneuver around the murders.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, he comes for dealing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Paul is protecting him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Things do not turn out so well for everybody concerned.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say before we get into any specific celebrations or anti celebration, so anything that happened at this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have I continue to love this crossover.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's very intense.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was a little iffy about torment as a villain, but I think that's working out really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the different personalities from Spider-Man, Venom, and Carnage.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really tying all of their stories together really nicely.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is great so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is all very well done and very tense.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree it's very good and it's rare especially in a Spider-Man crossover where the villain gets to take center stage and it really work and it feels scary and threatening and I feel like they've done an amazing job with this to keep moving the pieces around and keeping Spider-Man's sort of the smallest character in here, which I would often feel like that might not work but it's working really well here and
[SPEAKER_03]: in descending order, it's sort of like new character torment that we don't know anything about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then carnage, then venom, and then Spider-Man, which is the reverse order of how things usually go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of characters that were meant to care about, or want to be, if I know what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the things that really helps, and I know you feel this way as well, but I think it really helps that there's three solid bases for each of these characters individually in their titles.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Eddie Brock Carnage title was canceled by Charles Solve, but that was a really good solid, very interesting title that had a very different take on Eddie Brock and Carnage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Venom from All-Uing has been great so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Mary Jade thing has been a delightful, fun, surprise, and the supported cast has been really good as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've also really been enjoying Joe Kelly's Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you've got very clear emotional arcs for all three of the main characters,
[SPEAKER_02]: that helps like it should be no brainer but so many of these events start with like yeah we've got a big concept period okay how does this affect people yeah but this feels like this started with okay we have all of these characters in this place
[SPEAKER_02]: How do we craft this in a way that this pushes these things forward and pushes them to the edge?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's coming from that direction, and I think that bears out.
[SPEAKER_02]: We interviewed Joe Kelly recently about this, and I think a lot of what he was saying was about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He clearly thinks about Spider-Man or he thinks about what Spider-Man is, so that's all good stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, now it stuff happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: It does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: A very specific thing happens that I feel like a lot of people may be like or why would like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Should we, okay, we're, we're going to come out and say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been bouncing around it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You probably all do because it unfortunately leaked earlier this week, or at least part of it leaked earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think it was a big page in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Paul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mary Jane's ex-boyfriend has been living with and taking care of Dylan who hates him and constantly roasts him and calls him top-not and makes fun of all of his habits and everything he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Dylan has constantly been like, nope, I'm there for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, excuse me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Paul has been like, I'm there for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dylan, I'm there for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And part of that is his kids were mystical kids that literally disappeared and it's very complicated.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need to worry about it too much, but like he's emotionally attached to Dylan.
[SPEAKER_02]: not just to save Dylan, but also to give Spider-Man a carnage and venom enough time to get there, to fight back against torment.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he sacrifices his life to save him, and he pretty definitively dies, like as much as a comment book character can die.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always very cognizant of like oh there's time travel the story so there's an out or like I was looking for Dylan gets the jackpot device Yeah, this issue it has like oh he probably dropped it by Paul but nope he doesn't he has it of the sewer So it's not there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's still ways they could bring Paul back but like People hate Paul at it seems like they finally kill them off what's your take on this
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a very upsetting honestly like in the way that he seemingly actually died.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh man I thought this was gonna be just a big injury or something, but it's and his last words are like I didn't matter
[SPEAKER_03]: and which is very harsh and like his last couple speeches he has are sort of like I'm nothing he's being told he's nothing by torment so it's like it was very upsetting and I almost feel like if this is Paul's last moment it felt like sort of a little bit of a clap back on the fans that are calling for Paul to die and be like hmm look is this what you want?
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to punish this person who's just trying to be a person and dyes a hero Like that is this is making you happy and I I like that as a meta textual choice Well, that's I I thought this was extremely well done and we are definitely to Paul fans on this podcast I think we were not necessarily Paul fans but Came around because I'll you and you has been putting in the work and we talked to him about this at the era of Comic-Con
[SPEAKER_02]: the idea that making him so hateable in this book and dealing being like, God, leave me alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Leave me alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop eating your veggie burgers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Made him slowly more lovable as it went because he's such
[SPEAKER_02]: like pathetic sad sack that you can't help but feel for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here again, while you're in really puts in the work in this issue, to be like, this is a sacrifice.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is doing this to save Dylan.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what he emphasizes is like, yeah, I'm nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no history.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm nobody.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I care about this kid.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to do anything to save this kid.
[SPEAKER_02]: again your heart goes out to him you feel for him it's a sad death spider man even as he's spying off is like doesn't out loud but he's like i have complicated feelings because this guy i came back from an explosion and he was kind of married to Mary jay do i still i feel it's for whatever and a sety's like he was a human being and that's
[SPEAKER_02]: what he will does.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's also like a rarity in comics is, yeah, it's something that Spider-Man crossovers like this do really well where they have a character or you like, it's Captain G. D. Wolf who's like, oh, it's a long-running side character and they died or like, oh my god, this is awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is this happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is so sad and it works like because they are these regular
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other part that will make it work is clearly at least of this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to affect Dylan storyline.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to affect Mary Jane's storyline.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll probably because Spider-Man feels guilty about everything all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It affects Spider-Man's storyline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Eddie might feel like a little less about it because he's about to die by the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, it comes back to the thing I was saying earlier about making it matter for the characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: It matters because we do care about Paul at the end here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is going to impact these characters going forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it is a sort of strange the way it's done because Paul dies and tells Mary Jane Venom to go get Dylan and she does she does she does she's not like no I must I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I must stay with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: She literally is like drop go
[SPEAKER_03]: Which I was like oh damn yeah, the leading is dead body behind was like, oh, man Yeah, I don't kick in the nuts for Paul so that was a bummer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also like Not that I was affected by a deal in picking up the jackpot thing, but I was like that's very dangerous That the whole thing with that is a look that's what
[SPEAKER_03]: forced MJ to get into the venom suit, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't make the killer, she needs venom or she dies because of the jackpot bracelet.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know that, that felt like a big move.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's an even bigger moment, I guess you could say at the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like this is just a big issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I was like hit three times by it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think this is a good time to cue up our in memoriam for Paul Montage.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll start playing that right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys can fill it in your heads.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just imagine the different to top nuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know people are going to be celebrating online or whatever, but the funny part about it, I think is as much people are like, I hate Paul.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate Paul because he's standing between Mary, Jay, and Peter.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's not going to get back with Peter.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's going to get killed, Paul, and now she's going to get with Flash Thompson.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: It works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, this crossover is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the design for the quote, a good new character at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought was very cool as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to our group of Mrs. Art.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about another big issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mad about DC at number one from DC Comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've only wrote out edited by Chip Sedarsky because this written and drawn by so many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Too many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's sorry for not listening everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, this is a array of all star writers and artists taking on
[SPEAKER_02]: D.C. stuff in the classic mad style.
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, what did you think about this one?
[SPEAKER_03]: What was your take on it?
[SPEAKER_03]: it made me want this just all the time I want this this could be monthly that and this is works in comics in the past i think of what the uh... the marvel comedy book i mean it didn't run maybe for a decade but it certainly ran for a few years at a time when it was continually brought back so like i like this and like i don't know like i guess it's like well people don't want to pick up comedy on on a regular basis but i do think
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a world for that, when it's done as smartly as this.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you have pages like Gye vs. Spy or Spy vs. Gye, don't remember which one it was, which is like, Spy vs. Spy with Gye Gardener.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's a lot of like, just roasts of the DC continuity and that DC characters and comic book fans where they targeted.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a strange thing that goes after, that is weirdly political, I felt like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what I'm talking about, Alex?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm opening it now and it comes up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you like it's it's a while take about like different types of comic book heroes as like podcast podcasts or like oh yeah, yes, that one was very like current interesting you know the thing is like
[SPEAKER_02]: there's a thing that it says on the cover that like no refuds because humor is subjective I'm paraphrasing there and I do think there's part of it that like yes it is I was certainly analyzing I haven't read a bad magazine in years so I might be off some of this actually did feel more like what the or not brand asks or whatever it was then mad magazine to be and for me being like a comedy stop I was like well this isn't right this is not bad magazine
[SPEAKER_02]: There wasn't enough of it that did work that I was okay with it and enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean to call out a couple of specific things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think the guy versus spy was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was that Mark Russell or
[SPEAKER_03]: that wasn't Mark Russell.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was not Mark Russell.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember who did that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that was a very good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: The, uh, the, uh, the Scott Snyder absolute bad bad story was definitely not like a bad magazine thing at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that was the one that maybe I think laugh out loud the second to most in the issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the absolute condiment king, uh, by, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: the the former night wing team was awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tom Taylor and Prudor Dotto.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the one that I wanted to call up particular that I think was the most successful to be was Kyle Starks montage of like second tier superheroes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That he did which we talked to Kyle Starks a couple of months back and he was like
[SPEAKER_02]: he told us and this is a little pretentious but he was like most people who think they're doing comedy and comics are not actually doing comedy and I couldn't stop thinking about that the entire time I was reading this issue because I won't call out anybody here but some of the things I was like yeah that's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: that's not really funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is not really comedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Kyle Stark's thing was very funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of his things, he writes and draws all these ridiculous superheroes that did feel like something that could slot right into mad magazine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we also got a couple of pages from Sergio Aragonas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you took the Kyle Stark's new one, talking about is the dial H for hero fails.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dial H for hero.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: The one right before that I also really enjoyed, which was about the death of Robin, when Robin died because over 5,000 people called in to have him die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I throw out something crazy that you're a little crazy about that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish it was a real 800 number that they had set up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a fake 800.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a 555, so it's not a real number, but if they had put it in a call to apologize to Jason Todd there,
[SPEAKER_02]: That would have been.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I had a fun time reading this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is packed for everything that does it hit.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like two other things that do hit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to see more of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The arts good.
[SPEAKER_02]: The writing is fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like fun to see people's Euro themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know?
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to know your kryptonite thing that I believe ship is at our ski Yes, everyone we've talked about who worked on this are like ship.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's awesome that ship Because definitely to do this and made sort of made this happen so shout out to him as well
[SPEAKER_02]: The one that I thought was the smartest was G. Willow Wilson's page where she was breaking down the brains of people, and it was designed by Chip Cesarsky, so it looks really good, it's very slick.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that was the one that I was like, oh, that is a very precise and very smart level of satire on that page.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, though, I think it's Rainbow Raoul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, it was Rainbow Raoul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mixed up my rhythm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oops, he doodle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, very fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely we're checking out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the who did this one, the mad guy to Batman's villain secret identities.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's all just like a funny name, anything, override the myth, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: That one was really fun as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a lot of good stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just packed, it's jammed.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like you're saying, all the humor will hit different parts of different audiences, but there's really something
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to hear a little bit more about it, we talked to Scott Eong last night, and he contributes a page.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he talks about how much bad magazine has meant to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, and listen to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, tear-double number one from Marvel, written by Stephanie Phillips, art by Lee Garbett.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a kickoff of the next big run on tear-double.
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt is now a law professor.
[SPEAKER_02]: teaching it where else Empire State University and meanwhile he's still doing his Daredevil thing at night, but there's a new enemy who is gunning directly from bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a new serial killer who may or may not be connected.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there may be a new romantic interest as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, I like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a nice it's a lot of different things like I feel like so many Daredevil runs start with like One different thing or one like fucked up thing that happens to him and this one it feels like It feels like a real new page across the board for Daredevil with the like you're saying the lost cool stuff
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a different vibe, but you're talking about feeling old feeling like a little bit just out of touch, which I thought was like, oh, I haven't really heard that from Daredevil I'm curious what that means.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to highlight the art.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we haven't seen Daredevil be a little bit lighter in area.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's more space between the, like, there's more space that Daredevil is being in acting in.
[SPEAKER_03]: It felt
[SPEAKER_03]: lighter in a nice way in the same like last week we talked about the new flashbook that Ryan North and Gavin Gweedree are doing and that felt light and sort of like just an easy book to walk into and this feels the same way to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, totally agree with you on the art.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want you a lot of Stephanie Phillips on the writing just because everything felt very precise dialogue and line-wise as well as plot lies like
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like very simple things, but from having these serial killer taking people's eyes.
[SPEAKER_02]: and Daredevil, of course, is blind to the way that there are certain lines that play off of specifically Matt and his lawn direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: He talks a lot about like, this is kind of the same thing, but a little bit different and here's why, and he's put off by all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was an interesting place to put him.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one thing, this is actually a good thing, but that stuck out to be, is when he needs his new
[SPEAKER_02]: definitely not a romantic interest professor that he works with who hates him.
[SPEAKER_02]: She lists all of his jobs, and I was like, that is weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is weird that he had all of those jobs.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's strange.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just changing up the profession every night again?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I forgot that he was mayor of New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, briefly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, there you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know if he's, uh, looks back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know in the bumps and
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, what did we move on to the next book, which is Royale's number one from image comics written by Derek Kirkkin, art by Jacob Perez.
[SPEAKER_02]: Derek Kirkkin is the creator of the last mermaid, a great book from image that came out a while ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not him drawing it, but he is writing it, and it is about two.
[SPEAKER_02]: twins who are psychics and he used that to cheat on cards and high-stakes poker tournaments, they've gone back to Korea to compete in a tournament.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them is the devil-made care attitude one, the other one is having a little crisis of faith.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was the same so there's a scene of him smoking with a priest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it also dare devil-worthy smoking?
[SPEAKER_02]: that I'd basically the same scene and it was very eerie to me, do you remember the priest?
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, I don't think it was Daredevil, but we'll come, we'll come, we'll find it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll look around to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, anyway, I thought this was really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're saying it's smoking with a priest week on the stack?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's smoking with a priest, it's all he's smoking with a priest.
[SPEAKER_03]: Smoke, if you got a father, says Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: really well done characters, interesting situations, did not go in the direction that I expected by the end of this issue, but good art, good writing, I dug this, would you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: I also really enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_03]: First off, great cover, very active cover.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they are throwing a card directly at the camera, if you will.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the Ace of Spades, meaningful.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way that this plays out is so considered in like, like, I feel like you can feel the depth of thought that went into this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the way we're eased into sort of the supernatural part of this in a way that makes you feel like, yeah, this is just what's happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very like, show don't tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: and then I like the the way the story moves and I truly have no idea where this is going to go in a good way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, very excited to follow this book next up at other DC Comics book Bizarro year none number one written by Kevin Smith and Eric Carrasco art by Nick Petara.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now interestingly DC is not putting this out of the press and I guess probably I understand why, but the
[SPEAKER_02]: Back in the day, there was almost a anthology live action DC show on the DC Universe service, produced by Greg Berlanti called Strange Adventures.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it was going to focus out like Reuter characters every single episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there was going to be a definitive bizarre origin story by Kevin Smith and Eric Carrasco to the point that they talked about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They talked about some cast eggs.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were really going to try to get Nicolas Cage.
[SPEAKER_02]: to play Bizarro in this one episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they were really going to push for.
[SPEAKER_02]: It never happened and now we have a comic that eerily has the same plot that they were going to have on the episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just drawn by Nick Petara.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of what's going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The plot of the book is Jimmy Olson and Perry White gets sucked into Bizarro's world when it is very new.
[SPEAKER_02]: What'd you think Justin?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this was cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: The arts great.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... great interesting no no i you just had a interesting pregnant pause right well you know i that the art is very cool and there's a lot of good uh... visuals especially and i don't know but so as though it is a character that i'm like
[SPEAKER_03]: The more we, as I read this, I'm like, I don't want to know all this, I don't want all this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have enough about him.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't need that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't need to explore it further.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I also think there's a lot of time spent on Jimmy Olsid and Perry White just kind of hanging around the daily planet for one.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much Perry White in this
[SPEAKER_02]: Knowing the backstory, and I almost wish I didn't know the backstory, it feels to me like this is the first act before the commercial break And a lot of it was set up for being like, hey, the viewers aren't necessarily going to know the daily planet or Jimmy Olson on this DC streaming service, I guess, or whatever it is, but it definitely feels like the first chunk of the script to me, and I wish they just gotten to the bizarre of it all faster personally
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I mean, I agree with you and I'm probably I bet that what you're saying is absolutely what this is is the first, you know, third up to the commercial break in first quarter.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I bet they just started seeing the art come back in and they were like, well, let's do the giant splash pages.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and the giant splash places are great.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like a huge toy soldier that's sticking it to the jelly planet building that is super cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: All the stuff on Bizarre world looks really interesting as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like the design for Bizarre because it cruise we out like it's a good design but like it's a little gross like because these little teeth that don't quite match they're
[SPEAKER_03]: Nick Batara on this is such a like frank, quitely vibe, but a little bit like it is the bizarre that it's like the Bizarro all starts to command in a way that I think is it was a smart choice Even if we're like, I don't know if we need all this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I'm curious to check out the second issue Anyway now that we're set up and into the second out post commercial
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of commercials, and Hollywood Wonderman, number one from Marvel, written by Jerry Dougin, art by Mark Buckingham, in this issue, Wonderman is back in Hollywood, but not working as a actor instead of he's pretty much an enforcer for the studio and an old prison buddy of his is in big trouble, though we don't know exactly what kind of trouble really until the end of the issue here, though in mystery, is just deepening, which you think about this
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, I mean, I love Wonderman, I'm a fan of the, I like the series that we just reviewed and it just came out everyone, everyone saw coming back for season two.
[SPEAKER_03]: We, I don't know if you talked about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the West Coast Avengers character back in that era, really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a Wonderman series back in the, I want to say late nineties that I thought was
[SPEAKER_03]: Excellent and And this is but wonder man's been sort of it's called out in this issue, or he's like, yeah, I Did it had the weirds weird things.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was inside rogue for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was weird And so it has a little bit of that like postmodern Story where it's like it's a little weird comics or weird is a little bit of honor tone here and it feels a little bit like moonlight
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, some of the run where I'd say, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're just dealing with all the continuity choices I've come before as opposed to just getting to a story.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I do like the way that his brain is fractured and I think, um, I think if they can follow that and sort of redefine this character in the current comics, that would be very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a little bit of this book was me redefining my expectations over the course of reading the issue, which I think it's an extended issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's more pages than usual in this foreshar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mostly because it's nothing like the TV series, which I didn't necessarily expect, but it's like one hundred percent not like that other than Starier character named Wonderman.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also
[SPEAKER_02]: This is unfair because Jerry Dugget has done so many other things, but for some reason with this one, I was like, oh, this is going to be his comedy book, like he's going to be doing funny stuff with Wonder Band at this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are some jokes in there, but what it actually is is it's a Hollywood noir starring Wonder Band, and it really took me a while to, like,
[SPEAKER_02]: get around to that and once I did I very much dug the vibe of the book like I like the supporting cast a lot it's fun having hellcat in here as the law man who was tracking him down and like pushing his buttons I like this new guy who this new actor I thought this was friend of his was cool as well
[SPEAKER_02]: and tying it back to his prison days.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's very smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Killer Watt being in there was interesting that seemed that seems important.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he was like a 70s noir as well, like the very like 70s Hollywood noir.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a little like glitzzy, a little bit like peeling back the the pristine front of the story to get to the dirty part of her knee.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I should have looked this up beforehand.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's having different people aching and coloring and we're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Mark Bucky Hems art is so different here.
[SPEAKER_02]: That it is over the fantastic for first foes, specials that he's been doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I love seeing Mark Bucky up over the course of 29 pages of a ongoing slash bitty series, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, in Mark Buckyham's art has, I feel like we know him as a little bit more of a classical, like it has an old-school feel to it, which actually rhymes really nicely with the 70s noir of it and the fact that Wonder Man has this like broken brain with a bunch of different arrows messed up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that I am on board, I'm very curious to read the second issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we move on and talk about a one shot?
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe Kilroy is here, number one, from image comics, written by Chau, prove it, art by Delabord to the out to Lajic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess this is maybe a sequel to something or I'm not quite sure, but it is about a guy who is, I believe, an angel, who is fighting a demon.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that maybe question book?
[SPEAKER_03]: question mark.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know this I actually liked that this is very like it's a lot of a throat clearing characters telling you they're telling you what's happening in the story but it's taking a lot of ideas that I think are cool like Kill Roy was here is an old like World War II thing right like soldiers would write that on stuff and that's so that's just an idea that I
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's the idea of a character that's being punished to be stuck around innocent people being killed but unable to act.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so for the first half of the book, the character is being roasted for that being his lot in life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's a lot of like angels, devils, fallen angels.
[SPEAKER_03]: We must kill these 200, there's 200 fallen angels loose on the earth and then the kill Roy gets powered up to being like, well, you're the one that gets to kill them now.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like a good, they're talking about breaking down this being part of a larger story.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is like the cold open of a movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're now you have your hero juiced up with the flaming sword ready to go out there and just wreck shop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this feels very top-cow to me, like if you like top-cow stuff, I think maybe you'll like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what do we move on talk about absolute Superman, number 18 from DC Comics written by Jason Aaron, art by Rafa Sandoval, we're going to do our here introducing King Shazam.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is, I don't think too much of a spoiler if you know anything about the absolute universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: King's is him is not Billy Batson, it is actually Teth Adam, aka Black Adam, but
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some big twists and turns in terms of the origin story here.
[SPEAKER_02]: This also gets very much tied in with the ongoing racial gloal plot as well as power lulling the birth of King Cesam with Superman himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, you're the big absolute Superman head on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about this one?
[SPEAKER_03]: This continues to be sort of the, you know, we talk about the, the, the, the Trinity absolute books and the, if the premise of the absolute universe was like we're going to do a universe that is tinge in darkness, the Omega energy has made the heroes darker and more there's, there's a brooding nature to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this book is the one that is really bearing that standard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Batman is so like outlandish and big that it feels like it's just beyond that idea, is doing its own full thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wonder Woman is similarly, is it a story?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like it's in the mythology, but it's not necessarily like a dyangana that is like suffering.
[SPEAKER_03]: she's actually a brighter, shinier Diana, I would argue than the main continuity one.
[SPEAKER_03]: This superman though in this book is more tortured and we're getting these much more his rogues are also that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just really like it, like the end the art is such a perfect reflection of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just feels darker, feels more shadow at the same time.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's still using the same bright reds and blues that you'd expect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this definitely feels like it is the start of a much more chaotic arc than we've had before because there are all sorts of other characters going against each other, there's also a surprise debut of an absolute character.
[SPEAKER_02]: but I don't think anybody saw coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: I certainly didn't see coming in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this seems like this is heading towards a battle right out, which is something different.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like I was intimating earlier, the parallels between Superman and Black Adam I thought were really smartly done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's actually two debies.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't just get, I'll say who they are, if we have a get, there's another morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: But steel shows up this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: But cool, like it's getting harder, it's getting, like Jason Aaron is just as such a good job of like putting his pieces out without having it feeling like a labor.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like just a drop.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he perfected this on his massive run on Thor, and he's bringing that skill set here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, also telling a story that is really rooted in the core absolute point of view.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, at the same time, there's topicality here, like we've talked about before, like it's really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Deadpool April pulls day number one from Marvel written by gal Simone art by C. F. via Robert Gill and Igguara as you can probably tell from the title.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is ostensibly about Deadpool celebrating April Fool's Day.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's just how it starts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's attacked by a new old enemy who is trying to bring different genres back to Marvel comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are a ton of properties in here from back of the day that
[SPEAKER_02]: I certainly never read or have completely forgotten, though, some folks who are more into much much older comics, timely comics even may remember them better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, this definitely went to directions I was not expecting, but man, Gelsimo does like odd a heater right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're books.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was saying earlier about some
[SPEAKER_02]: or Kyle Starks was saying about subwriters think they're funny, but they're not actually funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gelsibon is funny, and she knows how to write Deadpool, and this is laugh about that funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I just really like her Deadpool.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not so obnoxious.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more, there's a like ability there that I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people miss with Deadpool and make him just this like manic clown that I'm like, I don't need that energy in my comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's too intense.
[SPEAKER_03]: putting the the meta genre stuff like it's not him turning and talking to us all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the metaness is within the story without having him to come to be like, get a little of this shit going on behind me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that like it makes for such just a nice read.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a loving homage to comics as opposed to sort of like undercutting.
[SPEAKER_03]: which is just nice that the humor is built on the positivity and the idea of being like in a romance comic suddenly in your life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a really pleasant surprise.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I liked everybody on the team, but the kindness that you're calling out was the really big surprise there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a really sweet earnest book.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you
[SPEAKER_02]: didn't want like this is sort of the opposite of bad about dc which is just like off the walls bonkers yeah if you're looking for another comedy book to pick up on April Fool's Day this is one that like is very funny but much more concrete in its story.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also really like Deadpool's relationship with Outlaw.
[SPEAKER_03]: like this is something that like I don't know what the like they see they hook up and then they she almost kills him and has several points in his like I can't see you anymore but I like that just ongoing thing it feels very true to Deadpool rather than having this like big emotional like massities dealing with to have to be in a relationship with a someone that's on again
[SPEAKER_03]: and just like sort of like, I love you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I feel like it feels that to me makes more sense with that pool rather than so often it's the other way.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: The sacrifices number 20 from Image Comics written by Rick LeMender, art by Andre LeBan Arujo.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are really getting down to it here as Pigeon has been driven back to his sky palace.
[SPEAKER_02]: the people are under on the attack, trying to destroy him and his family for destroying their world, leading to a big decision by pigeon by the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, I am shocked that we're getting these issues so quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: They seem to be coming back to back, and there's a new one which we think is the last one.
[SPEAKER_03]: It says to be concluded at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I talked about this in the live show, and this issue just really brings those themes home so hard that I was mentioning that like the last couple of arcs have been about like pigeon and his family being gods essentially.
[SPEAKER_03]: The thing that pigeon was, get there to kill from the very beginning and just taking down society and then but when you become in charge of a society you become the thing that you hate.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we get to hear his partner who's dying in her bed, be like, no, you don't need this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just go live a quiet life.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I consider me as sacrifice and you, I want to die so that you, I know when it's time to let go, so that you may go on.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, fuck that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, oh, dude, he recommended, recommended just such a great job of making us follow these characters,
[SPEAKER_03]: that they make a choice that is just wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we get to, we get to and have to follow them.
[SPEAKER_03]: When we know, the character next to him, who he loves is telling him the right thing, and he refuses to listen to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody else writes like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why his books are just constantly so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other thing I love about this book in this story, the last few issues we've gotten.
[SPEAKER_03]: is he lets his characters just age and look at things differently and characters can change so much and it feels totally grounded.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's just really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I don't know if you said this, sorry, if you did, but gorgeous art as well, just like every single panel on here is absolutely stunning from big battle scenes to intimate moments.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just great, that band number eight from DC Comics written by Matt Fraction art by Orion Suk, after a very focused last issue, we're now doing sort of like catch up in Gotham City, a little bit back to what I guess you call the main plot, vandal savage,
[SPEAKER_02]: is the commissioner of the police force poison ivy has been elected mayor and while vandal savage and ivy are convening and talking about what to do about the Batman problem that man is meeting with Alan Scott Green Lantern wondering what to do about his vandal savage problem and also we have a third old man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's wondering, you're out, just, but the third old man, one of the best just scenes of the issue, I thought was talking to his grandson about like being brave and stuff as this cop is just fucking with them for no reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I thought that was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: And just like, totally out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder where this will go, but like I just thought that was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, everything in here is really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is such an interesting experience reading this book because every issue is like, whatever happens in the previous issue, you have to be like, put that out of your head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Forget about that for a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that we're coming into clean with the continuity, but Matt Fraks should just try something entirely different for that wise for the issue, every single time out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very unexpected.
[SPEAKER_02]: The continuity wise, the stuff that we do learn or what they sort of figure out about Vandal Savage, that is very interesting and
[SPEAKER_02]: redeems a lot of a okay event that happened recently with the Gotham City books to the point that in this issue batman was like uh they're talking about the uh meteorite that fell the game that the savage is longevity and batman was like I don't know and exploded I guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's my memory of a two Batman, so I like all of that stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny in between there and I love the idea, the conversations that Alan Scott and Batman have about why they're having coffee in a coffee shop.
[SPEAKER_02]: So just very nuanced, interesting writing throughout this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just great dialogue.
[SPEAKER_03]: This reminds me of why I love the book Starman so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: It has a similar structure where we're following these conversations.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a plot things happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's danger.
[SPEAKER_03]: but there's also just people hanging out talking to each other and it feels like real conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the Alan Scott Batman conversation that they have.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very like we're both superheroes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Batman gets to be funny in a little bit in this book which is something I've been asking for for a over a decade and we're getting it right now loving this run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Captain Marvel, dark past.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one from Marvel, written by Paul Jenkins, art by Lucas Wernick, this is a new five-issue, I believe many series where Captain Marvel is having visions of her past present and future, including things for her past that she doesn't remember or have not necessarily happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is trying to figure out why and how that is happening, teaming up with Iron Man and then Spider-Woman later on in the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was very surprised when I heard about this book because Paul Jenkins came back and they announced another century series that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then he did a carp to Marvel series and I'm like, huh, okay, I don't know why he would do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was a little iffy going into this, but I thought this was really excellent, like
[SPEAKER_02]: very well-paced story about Captain Marvel.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very similar, surprisingly, like they talk about Rogue, a lot of this issue, and it's very like the Rogue, but he's series that's going on right now, where she's also like, I'm having all these memories that I don't know where they're coming from, but I like that one, and I also like this one, and Add in Lucas Wordx Art, which is just some of the best art that Marvel has going right now, and I was very impressed by this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if that's intentional or like if everyone's aware that the Rogue and Captain Marvel Marvel are having similar stories happen?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because it seems crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to imagine it's just a coincidence of publishing schedules, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I agree, I doubt they'll tie together, but it's just very funny that these characters that are tied together personally and like can't tell each other's memories apart, in a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's a part of this story, are having the same mystery happen to them at the same time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like, I like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Captain Marvel, Marvel, I feel like has been a character lately that's been a little bit lost or a little bit just like one note in a lot of the Avengers stuff where it's like we just got to be the best heroes we could be we got to go hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like okay cool but like what's some more interesting stuff you might have and that that's what I think the layers that this comic is maybe going to give us and it's a Jenkins we're having a Jenkins run right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah the Jenkins is a science yeah we can workshop that we can work yeah one yeah we're going to need some Jenkinsurance because we got some good stuff happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Minor threats the last level left alive number four from Dark Horse comics written by Pat Oswald and Jordan Bloom art by Scott Heppern really getting down to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is one more issue of this left and then that's it for playtime Playtime's over Name that character playtime's over
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, that's very.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sounds for one saw from Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do you think that's where the playtime character came from?
[SPEAKER_03]: It might be actually, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the three in who the patriots are fitting back against superhero, multiversal,
[SPEAKER_02]: gentrification in the biggest, most explicitly possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting sort of the ocean's 11 issue here where we're seeing different parts of the plan play out at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a pretty complex story plotting going on in this issue, which comes together really nicely by the head, but I will admit this is what issue that I was like, there's a lot going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I had a little trouble following all the threads
[SPEAKER_03]: Which would be painful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, there's just always so many characters in these books that they're doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I really like them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like no other book right now is mixing tones as well as minor threats between legit action set pieces and superheroes kicking ass and just straight like making fun of stuff comedy that is also happening in this book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love every new hero they introduce.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I want to know more about this character.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a character that shoots cassette tapes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: As we found out talking about that was Scotty Young.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it is Scotty Young.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe those are Scotty Young's old rap cassettes that's been dying to get out into the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for anybody who didn't listen to the interview, Scottie used to be a rapper back of the day and recorded stuff on cassettes, so we're trying to start a petition on GoFundMe.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was really nice, I like the you really landed there, you're trying to go fund him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're just trying to said about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a young no reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I release the rap tapes Scotty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on to Batman Supervan world's finest number 50 from DC Comics written by Mark Wade, art by Dan Mora and Adrian Gutierrez.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now talk about this title for a while, but with the 50th issue, which is very impressive for a Batman Superman team up book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Figured it was worth checking in with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot going on here too, the first story.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's been a super bad going to a dream, the backup story, stuff happens with Jimmy Olson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man, the first story, the art, this skull guy, is really, really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Destiny?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's a Mark Wade book.
[SPEAKER_03]: doing it so well and this is honestly like when I saw a big 50th anniversary issue reading and I was like oh it doesn't feel it feels like he's just continuing to tell his the great story that he wants to do and I actually liked that I feel like especially in a week when we're getting so many like guys it's April Fool's if I like no he's just like this is a big issue but it's just going to be a big issue of the book that I want to make.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's Dan Moore guy is really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish he was on more books rather than the best books, but I guess we'll see, you know, a guy can only draw so many titles at the same time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, though he's proving that maybe
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you can, maybe you can do it all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Dan Morris can have it all in the big city.
[SPEAKER_02]: The internals, 50th anniversary special number one from Marvel are in by Ethan S. Parker and Griffin Sheridan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ralph Machio, not the karate kid and Patrick Stump, art by Phil Notto and Dale Eko-Sham, Michael Chow and Domenico Carbone.
[SPEAKER_02]: What you can probably tell we're getting three stories here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Paying tribute to Jack Kirby's creations, the first one finds Icarus teaming up
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a second one that I'm blanking out what it's about, and the third one introduces a lost forgotten new eternal To cut today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, is there a more damaged property in Marble comics than the eternals?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like is there a thing that you've been spaving?
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, but I feel like it not as many people are mad at the in humans, I feel like the Eternal's movie has aged poorly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you rewatched that movie since you saw?
[SPEAKER_02]: I have not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where the kids are working the way through the MCU, so we're going to get there eventually.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to sit down with your kids and you're going to be like, this is eternals.
[SPEAKER_03]: Enjoy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And really take it in with them again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like 50% of that movie was all right Nice, which 50% you think I don't know I dare you to say the beginning middle or end.
[SPEAKER_03]: I dare you say anything just peppered throughout Oh, you're saying like two percentage points throughout the entire yeah, like everyone so I'll be like that's cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey cool 1% Ryan Tyre Henry
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree with you though, but the reason I put up in humans is because I think it was the same sort of Marvel Studios damage that was caused where they were like, we got to pivot into these humans, everybody's going to love in humans.
[SPEAKER_02]: TV shows coming up, no X-Men, get out of your X-Men, we're all in on humans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then humans came out of people like, this is the worst show I've ever seen in my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they had to be like sweeply in the human zone to the rug and every time they show up now You can't see them in the comics without thinking about that TV show, which sucks But I do think it's the same thing with the turtles because the movie is so universally hated But I would argue like at the same time Kieran Gittlin's run on a turn-als was really good It's really interesting
[SPEAKER_02]: But then they tried to shove them in and be like, yep, they're the same level and the same sort of thing as Avengers and X-Men with the X-Avent and it just didn't quite work.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, and like, I think they should just be weirder.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what this book does, a good job of, is having them be a little weirder, a little more like, God like and sort of concerned with other things, the second story that you were mentioning.
[SPEAKER_03]: of masks and monsters where this eternal is like I will never be amongst you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, this this is the kind of stuff that like if they could just it's only a few pages, but like they made let's follow let that be the book
[SPEAKER_03]: go go bigger and weirder with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they did with a new God's book that I think started out so strong over a DC and then lost its way a little bit with complicated plot.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we could do that in the Marbley University, it will be a turn on really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like these stories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the first story was a fun throwback, particularly really like the Dale Eagle Sham art, always a big fan of his and conveyor belt to film.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like a nice solid Captain America beats Icarus story.
[SPEAKER_02]: The last one, the new Eternal's Powers, I thought were really interesting and cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So which is hard to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was very pleasantly surprised about that
[SPEAKER_02]: We see that character more of the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: That seemed like a very clear setup for a book, so I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see what happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alex, I don't want to call it out, but we got a the end question mark.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen that before in coming?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a new thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because the thing with the end is it usually means, hey guys, this is over, move along.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I usually see like, I'm curious after that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: An explanation point if we're like excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, they're like, it's so for get out of here.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this is more like the end, like the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, you tell me, if you were.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess we'll see what happens touched by a demon number three from Dark Horse comics by Kristen Goodstick.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is about a self-help group that is all demons, and they keep doing a increasingly terrible job with all of their clients.
[SPEAKER_02]: In this one, we get a absolutely hilarious, I thought, riff on the monkey's paw that I've never seen before.
[SPEAKER_01]: And man, I just, I don't know, I could not get enough of the big, like, yeah, really helping, and they are not at all, it is bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn it!
[SPEAKER_03]: it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this has like Scott Pilgrim energy sensitive humor to it in a way that like if you just want to see a new new you've read your Scott Pilgrim volumes too many times like come check this book out because it has that it has the fun energy just with more straight up evil involved, which I think makes it fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and another great shirt in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a lot of discussion on our comic book on Discord about the Hannibal Montanibal T-shirt from the previous issue, which is very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we get lays in Krayabla's with Mrs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Incredible with her hair blowing like in the lamissarob poster.
[SPEAKER_02]: I told Kristen Gustauk she is going to be on our show in a couple of weeks that she needs to make the Hannibal Montana ball t-shirt because there's demand of one or two people in our discord And that's really going to like bring in the money So we'll see if she makes the delays in Krabla's t-shirt as well because I
[SPEAKER_02]: Poison IV 43 from DC Comics, written by G. Willow Wilson, not Rainbow Rall, art by Jamie in Fonte.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's on me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I bet it yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm calling yourself out.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I make a mistake, I own it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, in this issue as we mentioned with Batman, Ivy is the mayor of Gotham City.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is trying to fight out more about
[SPEAKER_02]: what is going on in the city and specifically she is talking to a rich guy who runs the plumbing in the sewers and takes him into the sewers for a little tour of her own catwoman also stops by and there's a couple of other ongoing things that happen as well as we find out why Harley and Ivy broke up another great issue of this book.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm flipping through it again and I'm trying to think what to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I do think maybe this is just me making it up, but it does feel like the art has gotten a little more austere in this mayoral of Mark and that feels purposeful.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in general, I feel like this book just continues to be awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: great character, all the characters are great, and they're given their space in time.
[SPEAKER_03]: This Harley backstory stuff is really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, and I'm very tied up in just poison ivy's relationships in a way that I do not expect to be at this point in my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's really well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the supporting cast going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love how G. Will Wilson allows her to be a real anti hero, like the hero and the villain at the same time, because what she's doing is bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we know this is going to go prog, like she is the mayor of Gotham City, the worst city of the face of the planet, but everything she's doing is like,
[SPEAKER_03]: you're not going to be the mayor very long here I'm sorry yeah this feels fake but also like let me just read the the last page the top two pieces of text this is in Gotham there he was the hill the most turnip brain of the parliament of trees that's crazy but it's crazy good and it's still good yeah it's really
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, what do we last, but not least, talk about alien king killer number one for Barvel written by Saladin, I'm Ned, Art by Carlos Nietto, this takes place on a planet that is infested by Xenomorphs, but run by three kings, not of the Jesus variety, but of the roated out genetically modified variety and a mysterious man who wants to kill them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a lot of Xenomorphs in this book, in this valid book.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're more, well, I was like, this was very different than I expected.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, yeah, so much of the Marvel Alien stuff has been very much like, hey, we're sort of doing the movie style story where it's like a bunch of people and then Xena Morrison and then a bunch of the people die and somebody lives and they, there's not to say they have been bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've liked, especially the first one was an excellent
[SPEAKER_03]: and all of that, where the xenomorphs were frozen underneath and emerged, I thought that was really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just a totally different type of story from anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, post-apocalyptic, plan out where everyone's dead, people trying to get by.
[SPEAKER_03]: The xenomorphs are more just like the natural element that is killing people.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's about the power structure and who got to be where in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's a fresh idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, we're all still getting the elements we know.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a character named Mouse, which I think is an alien thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was a newt or you think you're newt?
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Feels like it's in that lineage.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I like the action.
[SPEAKER_03]: I liked the way that when mouse met the warrior who rips through the xenomorph pre-effectively.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that and I liked the way they sort of helped each other out in an unexpected way.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's funny to see Zina morphs that aren't like red shirts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, that was just a shitty Zina morph.
[SPEAKER_03]: When so much of Ali and it's like, oh, no, Zina morphs to scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's building up to the mama that is the most scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is just like, now they're just regular.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when I was responding to is that like, they seem like very much a side thing going on when they're always kind of the main thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even an alien earth, where it's like, at there's five other aliens, it's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: but really the Zeta War.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that is the baddest one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here it's like, I don't know, it's more of a fantasy structure that's going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they're going for.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just, I think, need to get used to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not what I'm used to with my alien books.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like you said, art's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: The story's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely very different.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is it for the stack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you on the Bizarro planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Bizarro Alex.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me am Bizarro Justin.
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