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[SPEAKER_02]: We've had some great guest dropping by lately, the including a Juno Temple.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was here to discuss the movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, we also talked with Haley Lie Richardson.
[SPEAKER_02]: about that movie, they both star opposite Sam Rockwell.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked with Jokeeth Beckett of the Kornbrab Mafia along with filmmaker Eva Miscagny about the documentary about the Kornbrab Mafia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Adam Goldberg was here, you've seen him on friends, days to get infused, saving private Ryan.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's also a musician, goes under the Goldberg sisters, he has his latest record out.
[SPEAKER_02]: We caught up with Joan Armatrating, the water boys Mike Patton, a faith no more in Mr. Bungle, Fenton Bailey and Randy Barbado were here to discuss the HBO documentary, Murder and Glitterball City.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also talked with the cast of the Artful Dodger, including Maya Mitchell, Susie Porter, Thomas Brody, sangster, David Thielis, Manner James Keenan of Tool and a perfect circle was here as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's me Kyle Meredith today.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get to talk with actress Lily Raebe.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've seen her in American Horror Story Love and Death and on Shrinking on Apple TV Plus.
[SPEAKER_02]: She plays character Meg is Harrison Ford's character's Paul's daughter.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, we'll read the fish log line here.
[SPEAKER_02]: starring Emmy Award nominee Jason Siegel and Melty Award winner Harrison Ford.
[SPEAKER_02]: along with the claim performances from Stars Christian Miller, Emmy Award nominee Jessica Williams, Luke Tinney, Emmy nominee Michael Yuri, Lequita Maxwell, and Ted McGinley, and created by Emmy Award winners Bill Lawrence and Brett Goldstein alongside Siegel, shrinking, follows a grieving therapist played by Jason Siegel, who starts to break the rules and tell his clients exactly what he thinks, ignoring his training and ethics.
[SPEAKER_02]: He finds himself making huge, tumultuous changes to people's lives, including his own.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Lily and I are going to talk all about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The storyline that we find in season three, a little bit of a possible romantic thing with Jason Seagulls characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where is that going to go?
[SPEAKER_02]: The bread crumbs of her character throughout the season and how she says Meg is really Paul's daughter in a whole lot of ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interestingly, she also plays a therapist in presumed innocent, a different show.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what I hear about just living
[SPEAKER_02]: in the therapist world, in the therapy world, and how that informs her actual life, and coming to comedy, especially being on stage, doing Epson's ghost, a very, very heavy production that is, and a whole lot more so let's get into it as we discuss season three of shrinking out now on Apple TV.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Kyle Meredith with Lily Raebe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, how are you?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm well.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so nice to talk to you on here, especially about this great new season of shrinking.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially because we get to see so much more mega this season too, which has been one of the great things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: How much do you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we get this great storyline with this character and Jason Sequel's character this season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how much of this story of the character arc do you know ahead of time?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like did you know anything about this in the early seasons?
[SPEAKER_03]: I did, you know, not before signing on, but I did in the earlier seasons know that this was a possibility.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yes, I wasn't by any means blindsided or totally, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't turn the page and sort of, yes, it wasn't like that at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: But so when you got that information, though, does that sort of direct, like if we go back and watch that those earlier things, do you kind of, are there breadcrumbs?
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess is what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_03]: So to be honest, and I actually, you know, I, in terms of what came first, I think, and again, this is, you know, to really get like the,
[SPEAKER_03]: The answer, you would have to ask Bill and Jason Brett, but I actually think it may be that I'm going to try to use your men before that they felt there was something happening that then became breadcrumbs as opposed to the other way around.
[SPEAKER_03]: So no, we were never consciously kind of playing something knowing that this was coming but I think they felt like there was a kind of chemistry and a connection between the two of them that they started talking about possibly exploring what that might look like.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that says so much about you and your performance is right that they can look and go, oh, look at this, look how they react to each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's play into that because we see you take her from sort of frustrated and a little bit angry in the beginnings to getting to show this much flirtier side of the character.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also, you know, I think there's something to, she, and we learn more and more, or we get, we get to see it more and more, that, you know, Meg is really Paul's daughter.
[SPEAKER_03]: So.
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul and, I mean, I don't, I'm not trying to make this sound like some sort of bizarre threesome in any way, but it's, you know, there's a tremendously deep connection between Paul and Jimmy.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's not that surprising that Jimmy and Meg would have some kind of connection.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are, you know, she, she's his daughter in, in every sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're,
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're more like the knot, even though, you know, they might sort of present it differently.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think there's really, there's a lot of, there's a lot of similarity there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, she and Jimmy share, you know, this tremendous love and sort of simultaneous ache for the same person.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll be right back right after this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Kyle Meredith with Lily Rabe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, it being a therapy show, I mean, it's so right, right, for how you guys segmented, right, which is also interesting because you're in presumed innocent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're in this therapy world.
[SPEAKER_02]: How, how did that happen?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, gosh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I love, I'm a big fan of therapy, that's for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is it about you that they can let's put her in a therapy show?
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, I don't have the answer to that, but I, but I,
[SPEAKER_03]: But I love it, I love it personally.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm so glad that they're making shows about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, do you find it like these shows and these roles help you as like a human being?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because you want it, it's words on a page and you're acting.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there is like, there's real meaning to this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I feel that whenever I'm doing a job that I love or playing a part that I love, of course, it informs my life and me as a person.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're sort of, you're, even if you're playing someone who is nothing like you, actually more so, then, you're sort of, you know, you're, you're opening up your,
[SPEAKER_03]: ribcage and inviting this other person in and living with this other person and in this you know seeing the world through this other lens and I don't that that only will make you expand in some way.
[SPEAKER_02]: How is it how easy is it then for you to like tap back into her you know there's time between seasons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you know if you put it on the shelf or whatever, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I think for, you know, I think because of the Bill Lawrence is a, is a proper genius, and I know that word gets thrown around, but he is one, and he has, you know, what, what has been, the, the, the tone of the show, the world of the show is so specific and so clear, that dropping into it, because like I was doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: because I come and go, you know, I'm doing other jobs at the same time and like I was doing last winter I was doing an Ipson play ghosts at Lincoln Center and coming back, you know, on a day off to shoot and then right after we finished the play, I did the, you know, I went right
[SPEAKER_03]: Those two worlds couldn't be more different, but I, I love having the opportunity to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I find Meg very accessible for me to drop into, but I think that's because of.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's because of the writing, it's because of the, you know, the ground being so solid beneath you in this show and also because of my seen partners and, you know, when I'm with Jason when I'm with Harrison, who are primarily my seen partners in the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to work very hard to know exactly where I am and who I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's fun because we see you in comedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I remember, I think I was reading an interview somewhere, might be with Maya, who's over my shoulder here, now they think about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But talking about just wanting to do more comedy, like you are, you get to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how easy is that for you, how natural is it for you, I guess is what I'm asking.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love doing comedy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was, uh, I, you know, to me, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it
[SPEAKER_03]: They aren't so far apart, you know, I was and and I have all the ups and plays and I've done now to and I did a doll house and there's a lot of tragedy in the doll's house.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're actually I think that that goes might be even more devastating.
[SPEAKER_03]: But going from that into a comedy
[SPEAKER_03]: It I don't think they're as far apart as people often make them because so much you're just you're just telling the truth in you know in the world that you're in and I also think so much of it is about the writing and language and rhythm and and just being present it's you know and and when you're with other great actors like I don't think I know Jason Seagull is a great comedian but to me he's just a great actor.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't I don't really think of him as a comedian and but he's like he's just he he's he is and he's incredibly funny but to me I would just say he's a great actor and that's my experience of of acting opposite him and I yeah I love I love getting to do it I hope I get to do more of it in my career and we'll be right back right after this
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, you've got a great career and you're very good at what you do and it is about being in that moment and just reacting to what you're you're being given, but, you know, to it, it really does say something that to go toe to toe with anybody in this cast, because it's so incredibly cast it, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: What an incredible cast every single person I was saying, I, I just did another interview right before this and I was saying, you know, that night I'll never forget.
[SPEAKER_03]: was over two nights and we were shooting nights for the wedding.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that felt like such a like I had been invited to a wedding because I suddenly was with all of these actors that I admire so much on the show and being with Kristen, being with Ted and being with Michael
[SPEAKER_03]: They're all so phenomenal, every single person on the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I love what you all do seriously.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I look forward to seeing where this show goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just something I watch passively.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that says, for a lot of us, look at this show the same way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And watching what you do by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other things that you're a part of, and I was going to write, I hope you're going to direct more like down the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: How well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for taking the time to talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: What a total pleasure to talk to you about it and I love I love doing the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's actually it's it's a really a pleasure to to get talked about it with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my thanks to Lily Shrieking, the third season out now, on Apple TV.
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