[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Jamie See Show, a soft place to land for visionaries, the feelers, the heart led leaders, rewriting the rules of business.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jamie See author, educator, and eight figure founder whose work blends nervous system science subconscious rewiring and story driven strategy.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you know that your work is meant to reach more people, if you crave a business that feels as good in your body as it looks on paper, you are in the right place.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go way beyond formulas and we go into the felt.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is business.
[SPEAKER_00]: Reimagined through softness, strategy, and soul.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's begin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, I love and welcome back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so happy that you are here.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is your host, Amy C. And we are going to be diving into the topic of how to not future trip into the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: And worry about revenue and worry about how you're going to replicate things.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually one of the most common things in business is future tripping.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk a little about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to just kind of explain a little bit of what future tripping actually is like how it shows up and it really isn't planning.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not planning at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say that if I could explain it in a few ways, it would look like
[SPEAKER_00]: checking next month's projections.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like this running worst case scenarios in our head or feeling anxious about revenue and something in the future that hasn't happened yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And kind of the thought loops are around like what if this isn't a good month?
[SPEAKER_00]: What if it doesn't happen?
[SPEAKER_00]: What if I have to do XYZ?
[SPEAKER_00]: And what if I can't replicate this?
[SPEAKER_00]: What if what if what if what if I can't relax?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the truth is, a lot of this can actually feel like you're being really productive, but it really is just your nervous system, trying to solve uncertainty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what you are brain in your nervous system or always doing is keeping you exactly as you've been programmed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Essentially, every single belief you have, every single nervous system coding that you have is a program.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a set point that your body and brain are always trying to make sure that you stay within because that is what is predictable.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is what is familiar.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's all happening unconsciously and most of us aren't even aware of all of these things happening below the surface.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what happens is we are these dreamers, we're these
[SPEAKER_00]: we are wanting something more than what is our current familiar zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's we want more clients even though we're familiar with maybe having less clients.
[SPEAKER_00]: We want more money even though we're maybe familiar with having less of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We want more overflow.
[SPEAKER_00]: We want more ease.
[SPEAKER_00]: We want more joy.
[SPEAKER_00]: All these things will maybe our familiar set point is struggle and hustle and grind.
[SPEAKER_00]: And remember, your body finds safety in predictability.
[SPEAKER_00]: So all of those things, those familiar set points, that's familiarity, that's safety to the body.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now what your brain is trying to do is forecast predictability.
[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of times it ends up happening is
[SPEAKER_00]: life is unpredictable.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't control what's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can only be able to have a very clear energy and clear idea of what we desire and behave and believe words that and know that we can handle anything that comes our way and that we're not going to make it mean anything about our goodness or our worthiness when that happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: So our brain is always trying to forecast
[SPEAKER_00]: to create control, and to prepare, and to calculate, and to scan, and to make sure we're okay, and that we're keeping ourselves in the familiar zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now,
[SPEAKER_00]: When we think about uncertainty to the brain, when you think about like this, whenever you're learning something new, whenever you're changing, whenever you're moving somewhere else, whenever you're pivoting, whenever you're doing, you are in the unfamiliar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is why it feels so alarming.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the different parts of your body are being activated, different parts of your brain are being used.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times what happens is our brains are trying to future pace so it can anticipate
[SPEAKER_00]: and keep you safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of times, it just comes more up as, as worry.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we can't predict that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times when it's happening is we have this kind of hidden cost that it's kind of creating when we're living out of the present moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because when we are in the future and not in the now, we don't really celebrate everything that's here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't
[SPEAKER_00]: Observe what's working.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't honor ourselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't hold space for what is.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't find evidence of what is working.
[SPEAKER_00]: We might be staying in this like energetic space of just momentum and moving and moving.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't know how to be here all here right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we train our bodies by future pacing, by always thinking about the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are training our bodies that what is right now, the success that we have right now, even if it's not where we want to be, it's just not enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just never enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we've already moved.
[SPEAKER_00]: to next month, we've already moved to next year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so let's kind of give an example of how this shows up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to kind of use the example of, and you can implement any kind of thing that you want here as it relates to, but we're just going to say like how this shows up around like, if you're making between $5,000 to like $20,000 a month, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's just say at that level, maybe hitting $15,000 and immediately worrying about whether you're going to hit it again,
[SPEAKER_00]: like, oh, hey, all right, I'm going to be able to duplicate that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're refreshing stripe at the end of the month to see if we're okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe mapping out next month launch plan before this one is even done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is just kind of constantly finding your thoughts moving into the forward direction of instead of right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is not to say I have to be
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not to say you should not have a plan for your business and just fly by the seat of your pants, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're absolutely able to plan and to have launch plans.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did do those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just noticing.
[SPEAKER_00]: When it's doing it out of urgency, when it's a faster pace than it normally is, because a lot of times what ends up happening is we will end up doing these things out of urgency just to kind of keep the predictability of our bodies to make it feel safe, but we're not actually safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now, what I want to say, the goal here in terms of identity, the way that we see ourselves,
[SPEAKER_00]: Future pacing and thinking about the future is going to stop when we can shift from can I do this again?
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I replicate this again?
[SPEAKER_00]: To I know I can do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know how to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've done this before and even if I haven't, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be able to manage and hold anything that happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: because I am resilient and I am not going to make any outcome mean something about my goodness, my worthiness, my importance, my credibility, my authority.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be moving from
[SPEAKER_00]: This energy of being reactive to grounded.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be going from, let me be this proving energy to just like this stabilized like I got me energy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you are going to be somebody who can trust the things are always working in their favor that with everything can replicate.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even if it doesn't replicate, it's OK.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's OK.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hear this a lot like the other shoes going to drop the other shoes going to drop it's only when we associate an experience as the shoe dropping, but if we saw everything is neutral, it's like, okay, things happen and things get messy and things get weird and things go sideways and that's all right, just part of life, part of life part of learning part of entrepreneur is this part of being a business owner, so I want to kind of.
[SPEAKER_00]: this regulated version of you, what this regulated version looks like.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll be able to set a plan, you'll be able to do the plan, and there won't be this energy of urgency and panic that it won't work, but it's not good enough, that it has to be tweaked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you'll be able to work on
[SPEAKER_00]: knowing that everything can evolve, everything can change, everything can shift, and that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: That you can do these launch plans, that you can do these marketing plans, and regardless of the outcome, you are going to be given the gift of data on how to observe and see what's working, how you can improve it, and that doesn't have to be done right in the moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to prepare for everything for next month.
[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing that I will say, this version of you, knows that at the end of the month, when you are about to essentially quote, reset into the first of the month, you don't emotionally reset.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the key.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't emotionally reset.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the regulated version of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's other version of you that is regulated in this capacity, the focus really will become for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: This, can I stay with myself?
[SPEAKER_00]: No matter what moves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I not self abandon?
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I reassure myself?
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I care for myself?
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I have compassion with myself?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I kind of want to work through some reframes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of moving forward and asking yourself, maybe, what if next month is slow?
[SPEAKER_00]: What if it doesn't work out?
[SPEAKER_00]: What if it's not as much?
[SPEAKER_00]: What if it doesn't?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are that?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then instead of going there, okay, I want you to ask yourself this question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who would I be?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who would I be if next month was slower?
[SPEAKER_00]: What would I be observant?
[SPEAKER_00]: What would I be curious?
[SPEAKER_00]: What I still be brave, but I still be strong, what I still believe in myself, what I would still think that I'm more than deserving of continuing to show up?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who would I be if it was?
[SPEAKER_00]: What story would I tell about myself?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, next question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of us thinking, how can I control the outcome?
[SPEAKER_00]: How can I make sure it happens?
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to ask yourself this instead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I trust my ability to respond from neutrality and curiosity?
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I trust that I can respond
[SPEAKER_00]: with neutrality and curiosity, because everything is neutral.
[SPEAKER_00]: We assign the meaning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know, social media posts didn't do as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's neutral.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you making it mean about you?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you making it mean about your future?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you making it mean about your goodness?
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you making it mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, so revenue dipped a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what are you making it mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: You tell the story.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you are the main character and the author of this entire life, what do you want it to mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: What story would you like to write?
[SPEAKER_00]: That things can dip in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to just get curious and figure out why.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm never going to come.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I need to figure out why.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can fix it right now because I'm not okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: That it's not this right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm completely different energies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now I want to kind of go from a somatic body based.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to think about this and by E.N.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want you to start to notice when you think about next month's revenue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just let's just get aware.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just neutralize neutralize, let's dive in.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you think about next month's revenue, does your chest start to tighten a little bit?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does your throat start to get a little tight?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does your stomach drop?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel like your heart starts to raise?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel like, is there urgency that kicks in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does your breathing change?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you feeling in your stomach?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you feeling it in your chest?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you feeling like, do you feel your body start to change a little bit?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel thoughts start to pop up?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you just feel a sensation?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel anything?
[SPEAKER_00]: What comes up for you, when I was in your body?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, for a lot of people, it would kind of come up in the stomach and the shoulders and the throat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's no right or wrongs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every piece of awareness here is giving you information.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your body is responding to it's literally communicating to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the most brilliant thing about this work is that you can immediately understand what your body is saying to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: This right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: is absolutely the work of building tolerance for uncertainty because your body right now, and that's how it's feeling around uncertainty.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's saying, oh, this time I said, I feel uncertain about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or there's a story attached to your safety, to your enuffness, to your importance.
[SPEAKER_00]: If people are going to judge you, if you're not going to be okay,
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the body saying, hey, this is what uncertainty feels like in my body and the goal here is to not get better at future forecasting is to build tolerance for uncertainty.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do we build tolerance for uncertainty?
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the work.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is what we do here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today was about really truly just being able to understand and become aware, but also more more so than that, I want you.
[SPEAKER_00]: in this moment, to understand, oh, what did I learn just now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I learn that I am attaching a story?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm making it mean something, because that's what I believe.
[SPEAKER_00]: But why do I believe that?
[SPEAKER_00]: What I wanna believe that?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we start to get a little curious of like, oh, why do, why do I wanna do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I doing that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, you could curious, not from a shame place, but from a curiosity lens.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting, my throat's closing, oh, my,
[SPEAKER_00]: Always just make sure you're breathing and thank the body for telling you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, body.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for telling me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am here to support you through that because this is the entire brilliance of being a human.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we have the ability to change, though we have the ability to change inside, which changes our outside.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say that again, everything you change internally, everything you shift perspective, everything that you do internally takes effect in your external world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single thing, because it is only
[SPEAKER_00]: a representation, what you move in shape and shift internally, can't, the outside world can't help but reorganize in your favor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would just say, the goal isn't just to build capacity, isn't just to like understand the stories, but the goal really is never to think you can guarantee anything around your revenue or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is to understand that you know you're always provided for, that you are always well favored, that you're highly fucking favored.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you are going to be the person who can handle anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: that can come your way, whether it's perceived as a good month, perceived as a low month or a perceived as anything, we assign what that means.
[SPEAKER_00]: We make it, we make it mean something.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you want to make this mean moving forward?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, I just want to say I love you, and I'm so proud of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the work you are doing right now is the work that most people will never do in their entire lives and that means something and that matters it really matters because so many people think that doing this work is just going to change oh, just going to change my bank account is just going to change it's just going to change those know do you know changes it changes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single cell of your body, every single person you interact with, it changes the way you think the way you see the world, the way you see yourself, the way you relax, how you're cared for, it changes your relationships, it changes how you show, how you show up in your relationships, how much fun you have, how much playfulness you have, it shows how brave you are and every single positive thing that you are recreating into your body directly affects every single person you in your world.
[SPEAKER_00]: it affects your children, it affects the way that they see themselves, it affects your relationships, it reflects your friendships, it changes into the lineages that will come after you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because so many people recognize and realize that the stories that they are holding on to are the ones that are really actually not even theirs.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are the ones that they absorb through osmosis, but also through their experience growing up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you change yourself now,
[SPEAKER_00]: And you see the world different now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You see yourself now.
[SPEAKER_00]: That can't help but radiate into the people around you.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they can see the world more positively.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that they can see themselves more positively.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they can have faith and trust in themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that they can be resilient.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that they can be strong.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that they can not feel like they have to hyper-control anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the worth that changes not just your life, but the lives of others and the work you do today imprints into people you will never meet ever and that is beautiful and that is important.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I love you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so proud of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything that you need is in the show notes below and I'll see you in the next episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye bye for now.