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[SPEAKER_03]: I am Justin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: patreon.com slash comic book club, which is a good time to bring up, usually here at the beginning of the month, we read a long list of names and folks who support us, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Names we love, and we're crushing it with, thank you, everybody you pledges at the $5 level, we give them a little thank you at the beginning of the month.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had a discussion on our comic book club discord for Patreon members, it got some great feedback there,
[SPEAKER_03]: so we're gonna try something a little different.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna put it at the end of the show instead of the beginning of the show just wanted to if anybody's waiting to hear their name on them to let them know.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are gonna say it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're just gonna say at the end of the show instead of the beginning.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Justin, you had a really good idea actually to give people a sense of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Should we go down all of the time?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just gonna read the names real quick out with the top of the show and you just give everyone a taste to stick around.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you expect at the end of the
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when we'll really say them, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to start including some fake names.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, look at you just dropping right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if we can do it by heart.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to see Hollis.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it is Larson.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do this at the end of the show because he's a god.
[SPEAKER_03]: a great guest for you this evening among many many many other things he is currently working on the rocketeer the island from IDW which is a wild book if you have it read it we talked about it on the stack and loved it ladies gentlemen John Wayne and John Wayne welcome
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for coming on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: As I mentioned, you are writing the rocketeer, the island, the first issue is out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Second issue is coming out April 22nd.
[SPEAKER_03]: This based on a never published outline by Dave Stevens.
[SPEAKER_03]: The artist by Jacob Edgar, and it is...
[SPEAKER_03]: Wild.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually very curious what you want to say about it because I read it being like, oh, I like the rocketeer, and I like John Mayman, and I'm excited to read this, and I did not know the public domain parade that awaited me in this book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was that I'm I'm jumping on spoilers because I know it's been out for a while, but I don't know how much you want to mention, but it was There are a number of public domain characters that show up there was that in Dave Stevens outline is that something no you added that there was one public domain character the big hairy one and And in his outline which which
[SPEAKER_00]: It it he had a really strong at like here's the setup and then it got looser and looser and like so I would say about the first half of issue one was very strongly Dave like setting it all up But then it got real loose thing is day passed away in 2008
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole premise is Cliff, C-Cord, Rocketeer goes looking for a milli-air-heart and is up on an uncharted, self-Pacific island and meets a giant ape.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like that giant ape that's from that famous movie, except in the last few years, the novelization of that movie has gone public domain.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we can use him carefully, you know, he's, he's not the king.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, well, he's calling.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to get out of here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you've left no one stone unturned.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I figure if people can't figure it out by then they need it spewed food, head to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but um, yeah, it's like it was going to be like a King Kong rip off and then we got to actually use, well, Kong anyways.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I thought it was Prince Kong, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not ascended to the throne.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Duke and Duke, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, hey, IDW, as long as we're using this public domain character, wouldn't it be fun to throw in some other era-appropriate public domain characters?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I like who are you thinking?
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I say Popeye and I say Tentin and they said yes and, you know, we don't, we're not calling it rocketeer meets Popeye, rocketeer meets Tentin, we're not advertising it on the covers like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: that gets a litigation crosshair on you probably in a way where using the public domain and the other thing was when it came time for Jacob to draw them you know don't don't be on model Jacob do your version of them because you know that also keeps the lawyers at bay
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and let me say I feel like the sort of legal careful legal position there actually made for a great read because like not knowing going in Seeing Popeye I was like, oh, that's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: He looks sort of like
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's my, and he's there as a sailor.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not there like I'm Popeye's to spin it punch.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, just doing a job sailing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's just great.
[SPEAKER_00]: We couldn't use spinach legally because in the early cartoons, that was, there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, uh, attendance, not things pretty crazy, uh, uh, but yeah, a chance to write 10 10 like that's just nuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, I I left at it and like it's kind of fun because like you said you you watch movies and sometimes trailers show you the whole damn thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in this day and age, it's hard to go into something surprised and you know, be surprised.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny, it's very, it's very, it's very funny to have a legal meeting with a team of lawyers and be like, okay, you can use papai, no spinach.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to see a single shred of leafy green flying across this page.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I got my little winks, papai does something, you know, tough later in the book, and he's like, you know, I eat my veggies, like, you know, like me mama told me or, you know, whatever, you know, it's close but not quite there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do want to mention before I forget every week on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a professional chef down in New Orleans.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've Brett McGriss.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has a restaurant called Shevel.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's great down there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he usually creates a cocktail for us based on the guest or the property.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this week he created this, the Rocketeer Amelia Earhart at an island walk into a bar, dark rum, lime juice, marishina liqueur, honey syrup, agdister of bidders, and absinth.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... and yet it is a mix of different islanded type things to help the rock tier deal perhaps with all the characters that he's going to be to over the court well as had i know this in advance i would have been more festive
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll pass it your way, I gotta remember to do that more often, that is my bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: But let's, for a second, I know this is an exactly your department, but you brought it up, Jacob Edgar's art.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that Popeye was used recently in Savage Dragon, and
[SPEAKER_03]: We had a rust burling game who does writing for our site, sometimes in an interview with him, where Eric Larson was kind of grappling with the idea of, like, how do you depict Popeye in this world?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, from your perspective, for the writing perspective, how do you make sure that Popeye fits in the world of the rocketeer and 10-10 fits in the world of the rocketeer, etc?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, really, I have an expedition crew, and they played the right word.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the ships captain, but it was a little more fun to, you know, use the actual sailor and then I, you know, I need some like brainy, you know, you know, not necessarily teen genius, but some kind of, you know, brain to help out with the expedition and you get to get the, you know, the young resource for reporter for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So really it was like, hey, I, there's a place for these characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to use them, but you know, everyone kind of gets their heroic moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think it makes the whole thing more fun, especially if you go back to previous iterations of Rocketeer where Dave was a little more like, oh, this is the shadow, you know, wink wink.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is, you know, this or that character wink wink.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we have precedent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you have a question here from Nat Towson in the comments?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you locked into an early version of Tintin, too?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I am only using land of the Soviets.
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, no great snakes, no Captain Rackham, you know, none of the two police officers.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you know, Tintin and Snowy.
[SPEAKER_03]: very funny what about the rocketeer given you have all these characters how do you make sure that this story still serves his journey in the journey you want to send him on well it was more like
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, he's he's the star of the show and he does the the coolest thing that doesn't involve giant primates.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and so it was easy to have him be the hero that the the key was in a 22 page issue for, you know, everyone has to kind of get a moment, even if it's just a little moment to like, you know, justify them all coming together and, you know, fighting the bad guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: What makes for what are the central sort of like traits that you're like I have to include this in a rocketeer story, especially since he is very much outside of his normal world and around all these other characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, there's there's This I don't I don't mean to sound and that I don't mean this kind of sendingly, but there's a sitcom element to rock here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's a if you look at the old, you know, the the the Dave Steven stuff it was very
[SPEAKER_00]: And a playfully sitcom in like an old kind of like an old fashioned story telling way, you know, he's after the girl, but the girl likes the other guy and, you know, if the other guy is willing to spend more money, you know, than Cliff, she'll turn up her nose and you're also.
[SPEAKER_00]: God, I think it's the first time I've ever kind of been allowed to be sexy and like not me not me You mean on this podcast Because you have a beautiful backdrop Yeah, if you would have made that drink for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we blew it But I mean like you know Betty there's a there's a cheesecake element to it and there's a
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of the, you know, the guy who turns into the wolf, you know, like, you know, is tongue out and he's all excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the hot girl baster eyes and, you know, I was playing with almost kind of old school stereotypes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was really fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does a clip has some Joey from friends energy to him where he does sort of like he messes up a lot It's very rare in this type of like sort of icon hero to have him be such a fuck up Like a con and he's also works.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't do much, you know like
[SPEAKER_00]: by 1938 standard like I with a rocket pack and even today if one of you guys had a rocket pack we'd be like whoa you're awesome but you know when you look at like you know silver slurfer or Superman like the comic book heroes we're used to a guy who can put on a rocket pack and not even fly precisely
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, isn't that spectacular by current comic book thing?
[SPEAKER_00]: So you kind of put yourself back a hundred years ago or, you know, nine year or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, remember that sense of wonder.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the sort of the sense of wonder that came with, you know, the old school cereals of the day, you know, just, you know, heroes and heroes and dams.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do have a slightly spoiledly question about the issue that I was wondering about.
[SPEAKER_03]: So at one point, while we're talking about the rocketeers, quote-unquote powers, there's somebody that falls overboard for the ship and he dives in to get her.
[SPEAKER_03]: How does he do that with his rocket pack?
[SPEAKER_00]: As you can, you know, it's a comic book, don't overthink it, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_03]: This is jumping back to something we were talking about earlier, but since this is based on an outline from Dave Stevens who did pass way some time ago As a writer, how beholden do you feel to something like that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you feel like you need to honor the letter of the law when you're talking about that outline?
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried as much as possible recognizing that this guy is kind of like, you know, passed into Godhood status and
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was easy because like I said, the setup was very like there are in any time there was a line that you know, they would offer like, you know, oh, pv says this or do says I try to get it in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That being said, by issue three, like, I'm kind of on my own.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just used Dave's stuff for like the setup.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then by then I had, you know, freedom.
[SPEAKER_00]: And his sister runs the estate.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by then I also had her trust, because I clearly was trying to be as accurate as possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so like approvals were easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were, there was nothing to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do what I ask you about a couple of other projects, if you don't mind, one, two is coming back and the pages of comics the magazine, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was gonna be a couple one pages.
[SPEAKER_00]: I basically I got I got I got fucking tricked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and Adam Freeman like I just wrote like a hostess ply kind of you know parody thing does I thought that went with you and they're like choose back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, blah, blah, blah and suddenly this has turned into a serialized story.
[SPEAKER_00]: So so yes, I guess she was back, but it's kind of like I'm looking at the things I had plans
[SPEAKER_00]: I just had a couple lame jokes and you guys have like turned it into a bigger and now I got to step up which is which is fine like I think the fourth one and it's it's turned out fun and it's it's a very different exercise like writing a one-pager like you got to have enough story and it's got to have a payoff and a cliffhanger and just as like a writing exercise it's it's it's been pretty cool
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's less, if I'm understanding you, it's less of like, she was continuing to like a chew one-page gag strip is kind of what we're getting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was a gag strip that has since developed into a story.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think it's fair to say, she was back with the, the bigger thing is for various reasons and not just this thing, Rob and I are talking, Rob Gillery and I are talking almost every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, good tease.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and um, have you been tricked into doing something else is what you're saying I may have tricked him, but we're coming up October Hard to believe but October is the 10th anniversary of the ending of two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Robin.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have each kind of gone our separate ways and he did farm hand and I did
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I've done a ton of stuff, but nothing sort of has hit in the same way as Chu, and the other thing is I didn't want to like come out of the gate with another Chu saying the guy who wrote CHU, but like I like the humor was different.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like I wasn't ready to be funny in the same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I am and now Rob Gillery and I are talking almost every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: So take from that what you will.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, October is the 10th anniversary of the ending of two.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when you say, I'm putting together some pieces right now, I don't know if they're correct, but go ahead, Justin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, when you say you didn't want to be funny in that way, is that in, you just wanted some distance from a, a, that style of comedy writing to get to try something different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or will you burn
[SPEAKER_00]: All my stuff well both, but all my stuff has an element of humor, but she was kind of like more silly and more surreal and almost, I don't want to say family.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was kind of family guy and then it had like a lot of jump cuts and absurdities and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I uh,
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to do other things so I wasn't always completely, you know, the, so I could be hired for more than Deadpool, but 10 years later, I'm getting the itch and just like financially speaking and just, you know, for a lot of other reasons, it would be good to get the Chew Band back together and do something Chew like.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think so, we're very big fans of cheer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we did.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you said 10 years since the end of that, I was like, man, I remember when that started, we covered it and we were already doing this podcast for a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look at pictures of me and the first couple of cons and Rob's got his hair and we're all, you know, we're all gray since that.
[SPEAKER_00]: which kids will do that to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: This ties in nicely to what we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is another question for the comments.
[SPEAKER_03]: Could you ask John about the challenge of writing Gags on a regular basis versus the writing humor in a narrative?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you always have to serve the character.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, you can do these throw away Gags, but they have to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can't be at the expense of
[SPEAKER_00]: who your character is, otherwise you lose the empathy the reader has.
[SPEAKER_00]: So never forget the never go for a cheap gag at the expense of your character.
[SPEAKER_03]: On the opposite end of the spectrum, you just finished up a run on Titans, which is a bit more serious than the gag-headed stuff we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: How does that work out your muscles as a writer?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I was I was a former editor so I kind of know what editors go through, especially, you know, big two, you know, doing like a superhero universe.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was also, you know, I was raised on Wolfman Perez.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was that was my high school year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So getting a getting the old guy to write the classic team, you know, I couldn't be happier about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: and at the end you know I got 17 issues that's a good run these days I would have preferred 38 issues or 58 issues but I can't complain and then they started bringing in all these young characters and I don't I don't think they've officially announced what the new lineup is but it's not the classic lineup and it's like I don't really give a shit about Jonathan canter, Cheshire or all these like you know you've gotten kids you know I sound like I get off
[SPEAKER_00]: you know we're working on the classic characters was a lot of fun and like this last thing I did was part of KO which was yeah which was fun I mean it's a pain in the ass and that you have to like have all the chess pieces you know perfectly arranged and the editors like well you can't use this you can't do this this has to tie into this but it's also pretty cool when it comes together it's also really cool when you get it like an omnibus uh would get that stuff in there but it was uh
[SPEAKER_00]: working with Scott Snyder and Josh Williamson?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you feel like you have more things that you want to say about those characters?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or do you feel like you've kind of worked it out at this point?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I had some more stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a star fire on Tamar and story with her brother and her sister.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was what I was teeing up next.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that had to get shut down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they basically said, hey, we're doing this, whatever this publishing initiative is on,
[SPEAKER_00]: in March.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, we're doing this, you know, to like six books.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I tried to get, I tried to get one more issue because because of the nature of KO, the Titans were splitting apart and evacuating Earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, wait, my team book, my team split up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I have one more issue to get the team back together?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, no, you can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is
[SPEAKER_00]: tied into a bigger thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, all right, well, that sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do I make the work?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I made it work by starting off with a flashback.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the team is together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then at the end, for lack of a better word, Raven has a psychic zoom call.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they all get together for a last hug.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a challenge, but it worked out as good as it could.
[SPEAKER_00]: 10 years or so ago, I wrote a Cyclops series.
[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cyclops was de-aged and he was he was a star jammer on his dad's pirate ship and it was fun comic.
[SPEAKER_00]: I inherited from Raka
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the last issues were part of black vortex and I sit down to write the last issue of my father's son comic Right this scene they're like oh shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: We forgot to tell you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course Sarah is in case didn't ice this entire issue So is the exact same thing as writing my team book without my team.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to write a father's son comic without the father and
[SPEAKER_00]: It's found a way to, you know, make it work with, you know, flashbacks and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, that's, that's the challenge as a, you know, a writer for the big two is you either got to make the shit work or, uh, you get, you get kicked up a stink and you get fired.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, well, I was getting fired anyways, but I was going out on good terms.
[SPEAKER_02]: that's the most comic book, uh, anecdote of all time of like what I had to write them for the de-age cyclops, but I figured it out, but then the ice block came in and like no other medium industry anything would ever have anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was funny because I like when I was doing this titans and it's like this is the exact same damn thing as cyclops.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did it once, I'll do it again.
[SPEAKER_00]: But overall the run was fun,
[SPEAKER_00]: death stroke.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to play with Tara.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I got to use, you know, plastic characters and then a lot of like, you know, I got doom patrol in there and just to, you know, just have a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, with characters I loved.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm starting to get a sense of why you might want to go back to chew a property that has absolutely no interruptions and you completely control yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the other thing I was doing was the scorched, which was the spawn team book, which Todd is still very involved at least in the core books, so Todd would get in and he'd be another chef and he can't really say anything to Todd, he's the boss, he literally knows better than you, but
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am ready to play God for a moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing was, it was a real nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote 23 issues of scorched, I think, maybe 27 and then 17 of Titan.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like nice, meaty runs, you know, a regular paycheck, but when those things went away, all I had was a rocketeer and so I've been blasted, it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: all the creative stuff that was like kind of like percolating in the back of my head has just been like vomiting out and uh the a new book I am one scene away from finishing the first arc and the the artist who you might be familiar with has only done three pencil pages for the pitch which is approved
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, so yeah, we are in great shape.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's awesome funny funny book.
[SPEAKER_02]: If when I tell you the concept you will laugh When will you tell sure that is that in like three to four minutes telling us John, I love to laugh.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love for drinks three to four business really regretting this cocktail miss what am I
[SPEAKER_03]: It is funny to hear you talk about all of this and you're like, okay, I kind of like for the moment put the big tube behind me I'm gonna do some original stuff also.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing this rock to your book that has very specific public to make characters all over it from different levels of continuity Well, I mean in my career, I've written some really crazy crossovers like judge dread versus aliens versus predator army of darkness versus Marvel zombies
[SPEAKER_00]: Red Sonia versus Mars attacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think this is my craziest crossover yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's I mean, it's great I know we mentioned at this point we spoiled the Tintin and Pope I already had we know that Kong at the very least He shows up on the cover of issue three is there more there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we going to?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, those are I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've only got four issues So okay, you know, but by issue four issue four was a real
[SPEAKER_00]: juggling did you got 22 pages and everyone has to have their moment and it has to you know resolve satisfactorily and uh and i think we did it but you know holy shit there was no room for anybody else well uh it's interesting you talking about the sort of guardrails writing into the more like creative like you get to run wild
[SPEAKER_02]: If you run wild now for this idea that you were just telling us about teasing, are you going to want another guardrails project or is it more like, I'm free, I'm running, I'm loose.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's a little both because it's a different, it's a different type of thinking and it's a different type of responsibility, like, like, as an,
[SPEAKER_00]: when i'm not the when it's not created around and i don't own it like someone's like oh you know when's the new issue rocketeer come out i'm like well i think it's the thing but i'm not sure where where if it's my book i have a financial stake to literally know everything and if it's you know if it's creator on like there were titans issues i i did a show this weekend
[SPEAKER_00]: And someone handed me a cover, I'm like, that's not mine, you know, like, how it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look here, it's like, holy shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never even seen this cover.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a bit of a distance, you know, when you're doing big two stuff versus, you know, your own big two or work for higher versus, you know, playing God versus playing with toys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just to start wrapping up here a little bit, obviously we talked about a lot of projects at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there anything we missed?
[SPEAKER_03]: Anything else you would like to plug in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's another thing that's unannounced, so yeah, it's the only thing I have right now is Rocketeer, which you say I'm writing it, I say I've written it, so I've got two creator, creator things that I'm working on, and then you know, the two stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... and uh... i'm just gonna let that like uh... you know i i said that until i finish the first arc i'm just i'm just gonna enjoy it work on this first arc have it done for the artist and then i'll all slow down and we even have a uh... we have a true crossover built in issue six and seven right about the time the trade comes out right about the time we want numbers for the second arc we're gonna squeeze in there and say hey you know look this new books uh... uh... cross and over with you
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is shit, you got to think about when you are doing your own book and you have a financial state.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do I keep it alive at issue six?
[SPEAKER_00]: How do I, you know, DC doesn't, you know, they've got a built-in audience for at least, you know, 30 or so issues on Titans.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting, but that's something you wouldn't, like you've learned that over the years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is a, you, you, your guidebook, your internal guidebook is telling you that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, there's been a lot of mistakes along the way that's gotten me to know what I know now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which still isn't enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, John, we're loving everything really looking forward to more to you as well as whatever the secret project is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the locker tier is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you so much for coming on a pleasure trying to appreciate all of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let me tease one other thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There may be even more to coming down the pike than you think.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say, I would say, watch the internet in the next month.
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch the internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot to look at.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pleasantly surprised.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love these teasers, John.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have a lovely evening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come back anytime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having me next time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll come over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You'll have a lovely place.
[SPEAKER_02]: You look like your on vacation and it looks amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: My patio, and it's... Oh man, there's a gas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is...
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I work when it's not 115 degrees, which is six months out of the year in Phoenix.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Phoenix.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we'll enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Enjoy the weather.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for chatting, John.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, thank you, everyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have a good day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Later.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, just to plug again over you about to jump into something just I was just going to say I was supposed to be in Phoenix right now until for this shoot for a shoot and I would have been coming to you from like a car or my hotel in Phoenix That's why I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will send you over See with the bar John is what I would say
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, check out Rocketeer, the island that is coming out from IDW Issue 2 is coming out April 22nd and then the third issue is coming out, I should have written down the date but it's coming out of May and that's got clung on the cover, check all of that stuff out.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, folks, we are going to move on to our next section, which is my favorite section
[SPEAKER_03]: audience questions there we go and for all his questions all you got to do is drop a question in the comments and we'll get to it it'll be about absolutely anything whatever your heart desires.
[SPEAKER_03]: um look into your heart folks.
[SPEAKER_03]: look into your heart please.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you guys drinking tonight while we're waiting for those questions?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Jay D says you got a little fancy glass over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: um as my solo parenting journey continues I've been really
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, yeah, it's more like when you have to count on the wall, you know, prison situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it's three months, and I'm one week in two days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the one doing the shivin' at this house home.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, it's a tequila, um, negroni essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: Delicious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, what about you?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you drinking?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, like when it is daytime, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's daytime somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Pete, it's nighttime.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not in Phoenix, he doesn't have the I'll go need us night time because put some right to sleep.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah, give some nightmares.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, that's a bottle of knife for your drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you mean.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, there's a question here from Shrekler, classic Shrekler, Stemper.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are some of your favorite coincidences in comics?
[SPEAKER_02]: interesting question because I mean technically there are no in in story I would argue there are no coincidences maybe I guess different published publishing things that happen I mean the one one that comes to mind and
[SPEAKER_02]: This is maybe a case of just a rip-off situation, but I think the timeline doesn't quite match up for one ripping off the other, but Deathstroke and Deadpool being almost identical characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: In a lot of ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: How dare you?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they look like they kill, they have death or dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them talks to you and one of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm probably out this wrong, because I feel like they've talked about it to believe in times keep going back forth, but I feel like Pavy in the Swazer was like,
[SPEAKER_03]: And Rob Bifel was like, no, it is an entirely original character, yeah, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just crazy to do it so, so carbon copy, but then now it's diverged so hard within one of the wild popularity of Deadpool makes for the coincidence feels more real as it has a continues to divert from each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess this is definitely making me think more about like deep impact, Armageddon type situations for the cover of the same summer, but like
[SPEAKER_03]: Ultimately, new ultimate universe and absolute universe coming out at the same time is weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is very weird that those were both running at the same time because like absolute universe obviously is following up.
[SPEAKER_03]: on multibits, Marvel's ultimate universe, the original one, that's something DC has tried to do several times in a row, and this is the first time it's really took and it's really worked, but Marvel rebooted their ultimate universe at the same time, and the big like very similar in their core concepts in certain ways is strange.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and honestly another example where oh, it felt like very synergized when it started and then now it feels very different, especially as the ultimate universe is coming to an end and a little bit withing on its final wrap-up and the absolute lot of it, a lot of it, perhaps a lot of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The absolute universe feels like it's only getting more powerful.
[SPEAKER_02]: to the point where I feel like it's breaking the, I would be curious to hear their initial plan if this was going to be a, you know, two-year thing or whatever, 18 months, because there's no way this is ending.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, don't we, we get the last issue of KO, that this, tomorrow, essentially, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I do where they're going to originally end it then.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always kind of thought they were going to go like two years for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But now I think probably three years or more and Scott Snyder has talked about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's talked about like, I don't remember how many issues he had planned out, but he had sort of roughly planned out like, okay, I'm going to do this year or two year or two, something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now I think he's up to like 54 issues or something like that and his plan.
[SPEAKER_03]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, of course, some of those exciting stuff in comics, the other coincidence we should highlight is myself and Pete the Page both walking into the pit with Midtown comics bags, which is what led to this group coming together.
[SPEAKER_01]: that is a great I was thinking of the the coincidence of when we were in locking key and I got split and split and two in a double sided black axe while I was going through a divorce I felt like that was an interesting point to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yo, that's the, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like goofing on answers.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, you want to hear some real shit kids sit down I got split in half And at the same time when rocks fell on you, Justin, that's when love fell on you for the first time That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got married underneath that rock
[SPEAKER_03]: As you should.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did straight bullet audience question for justice and how many did you did how many times have you seen a madman This is very funny straight and I were texting last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like hey I was just looking at my cable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever seen this channel that it shows madman like all the time?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like I watched it on loop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I watched it every night and so then we were talking about how great for like truly We were texting for like an hour
[SPEAKER_02]: I have watched Madman, I've seen every episode, dozens and dozens of times.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it, it's the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you something, when you're texting stray bullies, is it tough?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because then he has the stop texting, Philip Kennedy Johnson, then replied to you, or is that like, No, he's in the thread.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's like, guys, stop texting me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm working.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trying to write.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, don't you love Madman?
[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, I've seen every episode that show, top to bottom.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could tell you, I could close my eyes and see the scenes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, that's like me and Beverly Hills 9 or 210 in college.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, this guy, that's a fun reveal.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he used to play it after class, and I would just sit down and go, I was doing it by work, and like they played three hours at a row at a syndication.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh boy, I gotta watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, when I was in college, we would watch, come on after a long day of class, and we would watch The Nanny, Power Rangers, the Mystic Knights of Tyrannog.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, and that's when we would start drinking for that All right, this is from not if they are really killing the ultimate universe What do you think Hick been and Justin's favorite Dennis Campbell do next for Marvel?
[SPEAKER_03]: What where is he gonna set up camp next guys?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, why are we camping?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I've given this some thought because I'm worried about the moving, moving camp, camps changing, and I honestly think this would probably be announced by now, if it was happening directly, but feel like there might be an opening at Avengers here, pretty soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, my feeling on that is they're probably priming chips at our ski to do it given that he's doing Armageddon and he's rebuilding the Avengers into something new.
[SPEAKER_03]: So baby, that's going to be him when they boot it back up in the fall or whenever it happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: Booby Dennis Cap would be the ultibates, the Avengers makes a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Could be either, I mean, it depends on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Chip's someone who is doing a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder how much he's going to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like Jed McCase stepping back.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just been doing so much for so long that there's going to be a lot of gap at Marvel coming up.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is from Sarah shot Mueller over on Facebook.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is the best cat or cat-based character in comics?
[SPEAKER_03]: Great question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who, Pete?
[SPEAKER_02]: This has got a really light view up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, he pulled back so hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you can see nothing this long.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his puffed his
[SPEAKER_03]: And we said puff the fluff what that is is that's when you blow in a cat's butt hole I believe what correct me No for medical reasons though for medical reasons to help the cat you play the cat like a You do that once a week with your cat, right, Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I It's stuff because you know you I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just have a follow up question if you suck in is that like helium Like if you suck in it definitely changes your voice
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, part of you want to say panthro, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: You can say are you crying right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting emotional, I'm getting choked up, thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, younger me would probably say the evil pooma that skeletal rides is also a great cat, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: These are, you're mostly describing action figures from the late 80s right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my top of, top of the mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to say he, he, he, he's the, no, that's another cartoon.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just mentioning cartoons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, Catman.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love Catman.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is mostly based on Gelsibode doing secret six.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was, that's a pretty book.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he is such a character in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think of a good cat cat like because there's always of course there's cat woman I like Tickra Tickra.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I say Tickra, but great great cat human
[SPEAKER_02]: living.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete any non cartoons?
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything I'm coming up with is cartoons.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about the claw had a fantastic chat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that was a fun one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, another cartoon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what do we move on?
[SPEAKER_03]: Stanley says, what can comics do better than novels and a vice versa?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I we did an interview last night with Tom King that just dropped on the feed, which is excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was sort of mentioning this a little bit like, you need to do something else besides your main thing as a writer.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was talking about how
[SPEAKER_02]: He's shifting a bit from so much comics work into doing a lot of like film and TV work, but he needs to keep doing the comics work And he would mention someone else like I write novels so that I don't have to be drowning in Hollywood bullshit my entire life So that this feels like I think you I think it's hard to be like one is better than the other.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so they're so different and they're different muscles
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think for me why comics are better is because it's not as much of a commitment and you know you're not you kind of get sucked into this very specific world That is drawn for you and what's great about a novel is you get to get your imagination is the director and imagines all this amazing things so that it's awesome to get lost in a novel But comics are great because
[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of describe this world and you get to kind of go and jump in it and it's not as long or as committed and, you know, usually a little
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's TV's versus movies, like comics or TV and novels or movies, like it's a complete idea, a novel or a series of complete ideas that you read from beginning to end and imagine on your own comics are a little bit less imagination work for you, but it is always resetting, always giving you sort of a new, new take on something that will then reset to the sort of stable version of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I should color how dare you sir.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Sharkler said Pete reads novels.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am shocked And I know how about you read novels, Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, how dare you sir?
[SPEAKER_02]: What novels are you reading?
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete put it in his face
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, geez.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the last one that I read?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I'm constantly reading Douglas Adams on a kind of loop just pick it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just pick it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your favorite one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hitchhiker is guy to the galaxy's mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: The rage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were rich, but I mean, you know, the restaurant at the end of the universe is also amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So long, thanks for all the fish is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's the one that I read more than any other, when I was a kid, and I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't read them in years, but that was the one that I was like, all is the one.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the one for you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Which one was it that, like, it was the instruction on how to fly, where you have to sort of... What was this thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tripover something and then he sort of missed these words.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the first one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hit checkers guy cuz it's a dumb out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's a one of the first things they kind of deal with it's I think about that all the time it's such a hilarious way to word it and yeah describe it Malcolm my young mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is starting Douglas Adams book club.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, okay Just cover those books those like yep five books.
[SPEAKER_02]: Never comment.
[SPEAKER_02]: No more comics
[SPEAKER_03]: and no more audience questions we are done with the moment instead we're going to move over to our next section which is trivia and for that we're going to turn it over to Pete LePage.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, as part we give back to you the lovely audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an opportunity to win $25 free dollars to mid-town comics online because if you had 25 bucks you'd want to go to a comic book shop.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a reader already said pick me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the easy readers into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're talking about novels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't we pick easy reader?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Easy reader novels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, you ready?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do a taste trivia is about the comic lands unknown, the skinless man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a small nod to the legend, T.K.
[SPEAKER_01]: Carter, R.I.P., loved you as iceman and ski patrol.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Question number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is so far very enjoyable comic lands unknown, the skinless man is best described as blank.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it A horror fantasy?
[SPEAKER_01]: B, no, I would say you're a bit wiser, C, nor a bit wiser.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a comic parts unknown about the skinless man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lens unknown.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lens unknown.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: A is correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, question number two.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good start.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this creatively written and fantastically drawn comic is done by whom is it a Ben Stenbeck B. I agree, MoFat or C Donald Muffet.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think anybody, anybody have a strong guess on that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, oh, we got an A.
[SPEAKER_01]: A is pretty nice really nice easy readers laugh, and that was nice There we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a laugh one Laph one Last one last one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should say what is the more cooler character in this comic?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a the talking rabbit?
[SPEAKER_01]: Be as your father and someone who cares about you and who you date.
[SPEAKER_01]: This dude is the worst.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, dick warlock.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, that's a real person's name.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, that's a good name.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, until Star Warlock shows up and wants to date your daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: To be referred to as Mr. Warlock.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is the cooler character was that the question that's not yes, that's this is trivia.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how trivia works That's what's easier.
[SPEAKER_03]: It says a or the headless chicken.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a good shot out there easy reader, but it is a The talking rabbit.
[SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations easy reader.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are getting a 25 dollar gift card to midtown comics You can shoot us an email at comic book club live at gmail.com We'll get that off to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: What secret movie were you referencing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course we're talking about the 1982 classic, the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, of course, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Warlock was in that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's my favorite part.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love Mr. Warlock.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also love that new comics are coming out tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you guys looking forward to this coming out that we haven't read yet, but it's coming out tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, um, hold on a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just had a small pint of good decades.
[SPEAKER_01]: I brought up the list of names.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't even done that yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm excited about Godzilla number eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell the Tim Seals and Godzilla hells to the am there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, also thunder the barbarian number two.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should tell, sorry, hells to the am.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hells to the am?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, green.
[SPEAKER_01]: and then thunder of the very very number two shut up I'm taking a nostalgia bath and this is like a cartoon and comic form and I love it and then lastly but not leastly just an amazing spider-man number twenty three oh my god what the fuck is happening right now what year is it that he is talking of amazing spider-man yeah what a time to be alive interesting you must have enjoyed the previous issues and not the upcoming issue right
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what's going to happen in the upcoming issue, but uh, but you're also going to read it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: You love this news.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm seeing the cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've all seen the cover.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've all seen the cover.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kiss it right before I go to bed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to beneath the trees and obviously he's right right of spring number six, which is closing out this arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: a second arc where some wild, absolutely wild things happen at the end of the last issue and leaving me breathlessly wondering where this series is going to go because it could go anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a follow-up question there.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you say you like reading beneath the trees, is it because you're like, oh man, I don't have enough nightmares and I'd like to add more to my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that why you enjoy reading?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who couldn't use one more
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm full.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need anymore, you know, similarly, I'm looking forward to the nice house by the scene number eight, which the last issue of that had a huge revelation that I'm like, where is this series that has so many characters in it that I'm like, this is so hard to keep in my brain, yet still is such a propulsive story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited to see what the action that is kicking off at the end of the last issue into this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: But stuff I'm looking forward to.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty excited not to mention too, but a DC Comics, but DCKO, very curious to see how that ties up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, Batman number seven, we had Matt Fraction on the live show a couple of weeks back.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he talked about this issue, where Batman meets the Joker, including a four-page full-down.
[SPEAKER_03]: going in the Joker's mind, which is very excited to see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also very excited to see sleep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Number eighth, this has been one of my favorite series from Image Comics, really messed up a horror book beautifully cartoonily drawn, very curious to see how they wrap this up at the final issue, and I knew there was one more.
[SPEAKER_03]: that I wanted to shout out, but I'll leave it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, um, I'll give a shout out to touched by a demon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Number two is coming out from Dark Horse comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is from Kristen Goodsnuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, first issue was very funny, very dark about demons opening up a self-help, uh, bureau.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, business, I guess, odd earth, because they want to try to help people to become angels again, because horribly horribly wrong in the first issue,
[SPEAKER_02]: We do have an important question that I think we need to cover before we go anywhere else from that thousand is nostalgia bath a liquid or more of a bath bomb This is funny because I have a I will tell you what I've been picturing but go ahead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, oh Do you want me to tell you first and then yeah, yeah, I have also an image that I'm yes the image is basically Amber sludge is what I've been picturing like you're dipping yourself and sort of like
[SPEAKER_03]: a liquid version of the amber from Jurassic Park and you're like C.P.
[SPEAKER_03]: a tone like yes, but it's like it's thick.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's thick and it's viscous and it's disgusting.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you said amber sludge, I thought you're talking about the ooze from Ghostbusters too.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's pink.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pink.
[SPEAKER_02]: The column here's what I'm, oh, great point.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're that color-flime.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you like comics?
[SPEAKER_02]: Famously color, full color.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I hear Nostalgia Bath, I picture Pete sliding into a like a cloth-foot tub, full of sharp plastic action figures.
[SPEAKER_02]: And man does it sound painful, painful.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, you know, a big fan of Mr.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bubbles.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought of, uh, I also had the claw foot tub, but just pulled with a lot of bubbles.
[SPEAKER_02]: You heard it here first, folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, a big fan of Mr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put that in your bubble pipe and smoke because this guy loves bumps.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's something that we should put in our bubble pipes and smoke is all of the wonderful people Alright, yeah, on dot com slash comic book club again, anybody have the five dollar and up level once a month We give a little thank you to them and as always we do it right here at the end of the show kick it off with Aaron C. Hollis
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[SPEAKER_03]: And folks, that is it for this week's show, thank you to our guest John Layman for coming on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Next week on the show, speaking of amazing Spider-Man, Joe Kelly is going to be here.
[SPEAKER_03]: For Pete to fall on over him and probably mentioned how much he likes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kill giants.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just kind of speck it Hey, don't I have man.
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