[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the Fallout lorecast.
[SPEAKER_04]: The podcast that explores the boundaries of our knowledge about the world of Fallout.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wastelanders and Voltawellers, welcome back to the Fallout lorecast, I'm so excited because we have this wonderful group joining me this week to talk about a way that they are bringing about the lore into our own world, the way that they're making the lore real.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what am I talking about?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about the Wasteland Jamboree, this is coming up in less than a month from probably when you're listening to this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it is
[SPEAKER_04]: the opportunity to experience fall out in the real world and I'm so excited to have the crew who was behind this with me this week to talk about what this means to them and all the cool things that are going on and the guy leading this is you may have heard of him chipmunk chipmunk has he's got a YouTube channel he does videos he helped put together a lot of the video content on my YouTube page by editing and editing added adding in this is language is difficult
[SPEAKER_04]: words are hard, uh, gameplay footage and that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Chip, you, you and I've known each other for a while, and it was about a year ago where like, hey, Tom, I'm taking on this responsibility, I'm running this big event, it's gonna be a lot, but I'm super excited about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so excited to have you on and hear about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: How are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: a good time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And first off, thanks so much for having us on.
[SPEAKER_02]: We really appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm extremely busy as we predicted.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just this year, in addition to Mojave mayhem, we took on doing an East Coast event because the demand was certainly there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we felt that a lot of East Coasters in the opportunity to come out west and even though they want to, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: to travel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And unpredictable as we know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm right now currently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we decided last year, let's do an East Coast event.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, mine, you know, I thought it would be 2027, 2028, maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had no idea that Stephanie would come back being the voice of reason to say let's do it this year Because then my immediate thought was that means we need to go into the playing stage now and that gives us six months to put together an event that normally takes a year Right, wow, wow, so you guys, okay, so you guys have put together and for people who are not in the know We've had for a number of years now this big event in Las Vegas
[SPEAKER_04]: and the idea is you fly out to Las Vegas, everybody gets to go to some of the real-world locations from Fallout New Vegas, but people dress up in costumes, there's all sorts of fun events and all sorts of things to do over there and that's been a big huge hit and so this year is the first wasteland jamboree in West Virginia which is some of the locations from Fallout 76.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that was the plan, plus there's raising money for charity, it's a big festival, there's all sorts of fun stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I want to get into the nitty gritty.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to find out about the behind-the-scenes stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: What you guys are excited for, all the cool things that I haven't even found out about yet.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I also want to find out who everybody is and where people might know you from and also what you've done to contribute.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's your role in this?
[SPEAKER_04]: And we have a whole host of people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am the executive director of Waysland, Jimbury and Mojave may have.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so you're executive director, and then next on our list, we have Old Man Liver.
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: How's it going?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's going great, how are you?
[SPEAKER_04]: Great, tell us about yourself and what you do with the Waysland, Jimbury.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm Old Man Liver.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am a resident of Good Springs, Nevada.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also come to Pioneer Saloon, known as the Procpector Saloon in Fallout New Vegas, as well as the Good Springs General Store, and I'm the founder of this annual event.
[SPEAKER_01]: that's awesome that's awesome well welcome welcome welcome to the interview and thank you thank you we also have the Ohio cowboy welcome has it going well good Tom thank you for having me on the Ohio cowboy I am the director of special events for the fallout to hope charity initiatives
[SPEAKER_01]: Most of you may recognize that initiative, but also recognize Kenneth Vigue.
[SPEAKER_01]: My role within this is I am assisting Ken with the VIPs, the talent that will be coming to this event in West Virginia, as well as the ones in Las Vegas.
[SPEAKER_01]: As well as a little bit of the marketing and social media, a lot of the work that I do is behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_01]: and voice is kind of the first step in the foreground, so to say.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, welcome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we also have simultaneously Grouch and Clive.
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hi everybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, share some things about yourselves and how you guys are involved.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_08]: So we're both really big fallout fans that that fall out is what actually brought us together.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it's the thing that we're very passionate about.
[SPEAKER_08]: I am spearheading the immersion project for both wasteland, jamboree and mull hobby mayhem.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I'll get more in detail into that a little bit later, but basically I'm trying to create a world where you can go and feel like you're in one of these games that we love so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's very cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: In Clive, I just hope her hearing on whatever she does, whatever she says, hey, Clive, go do this and I say, all right, I'm going to do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can you get everything done?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a team work.
[SPEAKER_04]: It makes us dreamers.
[SPEAKER_04]: Need to live many times.
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome.
[SPEAKER_04]: We also have my tater.
[SPEAKER_04]: My welcome to the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello, thank you for having me.
[SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate it so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm excited about the event coming up.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be amazing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've been over to the West Coast one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I get to be involved with the East Coast one.
[SPEAKER_05]: They've gave me a fancy schmancy title here.
[SPEAKER_05]: I am the VIP Director and Coordinator, Ula-la.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and I stream over on Twitch, a partner streamer on that end, playing a lot of fallout 76.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and you've been doing that for a number of years now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh gosh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's six years now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Six years?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's been a while, yes, sir.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, sir.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then finally, but not last, last, but not last.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, last, but that worked last beta Phoenix.
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome.
[SPEAKER_04]: How are you?
[SPEAKER_09]: Hi, how's it going?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, share some things about what you do, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I am Vita Phoenix.
[SPEAKER_09]: I came into this community as, well, I mean, I'm first and foremost, a big huge game enthusiast, and Fallout is my jam.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I have actually been a modern for the Thesda Games for probably about five years now.
[SPEAKER_09]: We sat in and then a little longer than that.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was in a panel at Good Springs and I wanted to get more involved and so I started working for Fallout for Hope with the Ohio Cowboy and Ken and everything and also now I'm the IT director for the company that does the way Sanjeevory and the Mojave Mehams.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I will be making sure that
[SPEAKER_09]: Hopefully I can get the stream to be going.
[SPEAKER_09]: Pretty, probably not the whole time that we're going, but a lot of it, because I wanted to show a lot of variety about what's going on at the event, because there's so much it's going to happen that we need to show it off, you know, yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm looking forward to streaming a lot while we're there also.
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that sounds great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would love to be able to tune in and see that, you know, I'm sure there are a lot of people who would be like, I could be there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would, but at least I get to watch, you know, that's.
[SPEAKER_09]: but next year, next year I'll buy a ticket and go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well here let's this obviously wouldn't work without all of your effort and I'm sure lots of other people all chipping in at different levels.
[SPEAKER_04]: And for people who don't know, this is May 2nd and 3rd this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you want to go get your tickets, make sure you can go.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is Sutton and Firewood's West Virginia.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just reading off the poster here, so in case you haven't seen anything about this, it says a fan celebration of post-apocalyptic games and media, cosplay parade, live music, fan film festival, larp zone, celebrity meet and greets, panels, faction camps, celebrity gulla event, or is it gallant or is it gala?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how do you pronounce that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I went to one the other.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you gave a ball.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think so here's my theory on it real quick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Gala is like Wait wait wait wait.
[SPEAKER_04]: How did I phrase this?
[SPEAKER_04]: There's Gala there's Gala and there's Gala, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Gala.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Gala, what is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Gala, Gala, Gala to me feels like America like if you're just an American you say Gala or you know you say get Gala I don't remember but if you're fancy you may say Gala or Gala or I anyway
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how that works, but in the south we'd be like, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala, Gala,
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, so there's that and then there's excursions and tours to featured locations and all sorts of other stuff so I guess my first question and the chip I'm going to go with you since you're the guy leading this but what is like if you were to just pitch this in an elevator, what is the event and why is it special.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, well, like if you just boil it down to we're doing it, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: the producer style, it's literally fallout meets Coachella.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is a better version of Mojave Wasteland, or I'm sorry, Mojave mayhem, because it's a fan-driven organic experience that keeps you growing every year.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've made it a point, and oh, man, liberal talk to this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It started as a just a get together of fans, which exceeded our expectations the first year.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then from there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's literally a fan-driven event.
[SPEAKER_02]: And each one has a different feel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mojavey mayhem is a wild, new Vegas feeling party.
[SPEAKER_02]: And with all that celebrities and everything else, Casador.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mojave or a wasteland jumper is similar in many ways, but it's more of, as Ken put it, he's our marketing director, sales marketing.
[SPEAKER_02]: The, it's a county fair vibe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of got a pioneer scout field county fair in the wasteland.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we wanted them to be
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's no other way for me to really describe it other than it's just fans getting together celebrating what they love sharing the community and then growing the community.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very, very much just up-up celebration of the games.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nice, nice, nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who would anybody else like to chime in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to mention that this whole group that that's on your show today, we've all come together organically and I've met every one of these folks through the event itself, which is really cool because we're like a family now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have lifelong friends that I never would have met if it wasn't for the fallout community and throwing these events.
[SPEAKER_00]: and the whole thing happened organically to begin with, and it was one of these things where the very first year, which was 2022, I had acquired the Saloon in 2021, and I felt bad that we weren't doing more, but follow-up fans, because the Saloon has 112 year history.
[SPEAKER_00]: with a lot of stories and it's got a paranormal thing to it, it's got history, it's got a biker background and old west uh everything to it but fall out as part of our uh new or part of our history and I felt like we weren't doing enough for fans at the time all we had was a little Xbox game on the wall and people were coming in every day asking about it and I was like well we need to dedicate a whole
[SPEAKER_00]: wall into this day now.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a giant shrine there of the Fego nations from fallout fans over the last four years.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we, it all started when I said, hey, why don't for national video game this year?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't we see if any of the fallout fans want to meet up at the Saloon?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we expected like 20, maybe 50 people to show up, 100 in our wildest imagination, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next thing you know, we got a thousand people there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a line down the highway.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh, what the hell do we do?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we've got to have a whole day of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we are literally making up stuff as we went on activities and trivia and I always joke about the very first cosplay contest, which is turned into the biggest activity at these events and probably will be for West Virginia as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: but the very first cosplay contest so many people showed up and granted you know national video game dance in July.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the middle of the summer people are showing up in giant power armor outfits and you know thankfully no one died from heat.
[SPEAKER_00]: street stroke or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, literally one this one guy that was staying next to me dressed up in this giant power arm or outfit who ironically is now a dear friend of mine and runs actually runs our kitchen at the Pioneer Saloon in the tower.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know I'm wearing power.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, do you look like you've been to some of these events like what category should I have for the cosplay kind is like best in show blah blah blah blah and I get right on stage of like okay for best in show and I'm really cool and cash out of my wallet as the
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we try to, even though we planned stuff out now, and the first couple of years or so I did the whole run of show, but it's got too big, and that's when I had to, that's when organically this group of volunteers and mega fans have come together to help.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's this huge organization, except with subcategories and such that might be 30 people big at this point, but everyone does it out of just passion for the game and now the event.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can only thank them from the bottom of my heart for getting involved as now thousands of people show up at both of these events and there's no way one person could pull it all off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the key thing as Chip said is getting everybody together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that alone is amazing, but then if for people that come near after year, we want to do different activities to earn excursion, they make a, I went out and I saw the green buyer this year, the next year I want to see healthy share or same with on the west coast and might go, I did the Hoover Dam tour now I want to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: the old Mormon for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we want to give people different things so it's not the exact same experience each year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's coming together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this year, as Chip pointed out, the immersion zones that brought to his organizing is a huge step up for hard core fans that I think people are going to love, even if you've been to the last four years, you're going to freak out about how immersive this is going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of amazing what people can do when they're all motivated in the same direction like when when we all get together just organically and then we come together and then oftentimes it's full of positivity in a way that we're desperately needing in our modern day because you go online and there's so much
[SPEAKER_04]: negativity everywhere because that's what rises at the top.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what gets people to react.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yet, to counter that with, okay, this is a real world, it was based on a video game, yes, but we are all going to get together and touch grass together.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's something about or touch power armor together.
[SPEAKER_09]: that they're getting together with my people and that type of environment where everyone's actually dressed up and, you know, just being nerdy as hell and everything is just the way I like it, you know, it's it is literally like the most refreshing feeling that I could ever imagine.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like I can't not go.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, you know, it's like, okay, you're addicted.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're going to go to
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I think you're on this thing there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: And here you are.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well.
[SPEAKER_09]: No joy is there.
[UNKNOWN]: No joy is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: No joy is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dark, dark chip just spoke.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dark chip.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Damn a version of that outfit where he's got like a really sinister face.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think you're on to something there's I think and maybe I'm I don't know you're talking about a fandom right we're all nerds and probably 90% of us are neurodivergent in some way But as nerds and neurodivergent people one of the things that you learn in life is that you rarely get to just be yourself
[SPEAKER_04]: and not worry about how people are going to react, or not fear the consequences of being condemned for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you walk into, if I walked into my grocery store in a vault suit, everybody would look at me weird, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: But I might go, you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: I like wearing a vault suit.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love fallout, but if you go to an event like this, you don't have to worry about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's something about being yourself and that being celebrated and finding your tribe, finding your people.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's what all of you are touching on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Steven, you can certainly attest to this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get a lot of,
[SPEAKER_02]: male from people that thank us so sincerely for that very reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: They literally will say how it changed their life.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've said it many times.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's better than Christmas for me now, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I get the things we get to do and celebrate and just get together.
[SPEAKER_02]: midday, Saturday or at any point you just look at the crowd having so much fun and that experience is so uplifting because you're yeah, we're part of it and we're bringing it to them and that's very rewarding but the joy that they get and just to see in their faces and for those reasons because they have a family, a huge family that supports them.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't and you'll see it when you go
[SPEAKER_02]: whether it's a new cagirl or an on-club officer or you name it across the spectrum and they're all together loving each other and just celebrate in the game and it's so wonderful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Often we'll tell us how you know they will literally say thank you for getting me out of my basement.
[SPEAKER_00]: and bring me together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel, and I'm not sociable in any other scenario, but I come to these, because I'm with my people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's our whole thing, is just be yourself, inclusiveness, and the community falls on it to your point earlier on the entire spectrum of the political
[SPEAKER_00]: So sure, you know, it's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And but everyone comes together and gets along and everyone's there just to enjoy each other and have a great time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like Chips said, well, literally have people, I somebody at the last event come up to me with their family and they're like, this has been the absolutely best day of my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, the right answer might have been like, when you got married or the birth of your father.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you saying that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't tell your wife, but okay, we're giving the phone memories and now people getting engaged there.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done weddings.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've had the officiato of a wedding or two.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's literally like memories of a lifetime.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's the totally makes sense because that absolutely tracks and I'm I'm glad that these kinds of things exist.
[SPEAKER_04]: I I firmly believe that if we are going to make a better world then we need to connect in ways and find ways to connect on a human level because once you do that and you
[SPEAKER_04]: Physically are in front of another person and you realize we have more in common than we have different then you can debate things like politics or religion or whatever Anybody wants to murder each other about and you and it becomes less murdery because guess what?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know the person you're talking to and you already have some sort of commonality You treat them like a human being not like an anonymous individual on the internet and all of that, but I
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get off my soapbox.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have a ton of respect that you get, just the knowledge of no one each other.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the thing is, is that honestly, I started in and the whole game and thing later.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was a cheer mom and a soccer mom and all that before I started in later in my late 40s, they have welcomed me with open arms, they taught me how to play the game.
[SPEAKER_05]: They taught me how to do things in the game.
[SPEAKER_05]: The community taught me how to stream for goodness sake.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, so it's just they are loving.
[SPEAKER_05]: I went to the West Coast one, did I know an ounce of nothing about new Vegas?
[SPEAKER_05]: Nope, I didn't know much enough.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they loved me and they were like, okay, multi-ter, this and this and that's what this means and I'm like, okay, so everyone's welcome, you know, it really is.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome, that's so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody is welcome in this community.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this community as a is so amazing in the sense that, you know, a lot of what we do follow up for hope is charity driven, you know, between St. Jude's and the Alzheimer's Association.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this past event in Vegas, we raise a lot of money for charity.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've found that this community is not only welcoming,
[SPEAKER_01]: embracing and loving, but if there is a drive or a cause that can better the world, or even a small as another person, they will all get together, we will all get together for that cause.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something to really sit back and think about in the way that the world
[SPEAKER_01]: That's something that this this fandom should celebrate and be proud of.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, there's a certain irony to a bunch of people who love a video game about a wasteland contributing to charities that make sure the world doesn't turn into a wasteland.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he said, oh no, he's just been there.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a part-warming thing is that, you know, one of us isn't troubled and puts out a go-fun me, everybody's like, oh, go!
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and how many times does that happen?
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't get on by I won't go into detail on this, but last year at the one of the pre events, I was at the the atomic museum, and Bethesda did a big,
[SPEAKER_02]: thing there to for their exhibit that they just started and i was talking the curator because i did an episode well three episodes there of the show and he asked me because why do you think it is that fallout is so popular with people and you know and it's grown so big and i said well if you ask me it's because
[SPEAKER_02]: The one thing that resonates in all the games, being a post-apocalyptic madmax kind of world, the difference with fallout to everything else, is that there's always hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's the thing that the gamers and the fans really embrace because in their darkest moments, there's always hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's part of what, in the event, you can celebrate that as well, and there's always that feeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's why personally the fans embrace it the way they do, because it's as dark as it seems, to have hope and have an ending that is hopeful or attemptive is so critical to our human condition.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: You say that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every character who starts in a vault leaves the vault in order to try to make something better.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: like at least on a minimal level, right, except for the, you know, new Vegas, not a Voltweller, also seeking revenge, but whole other story.
[SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, as a Voltweller, you leave and you're fixing a water chip or you're trying to find your dad and bring them back or whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: For some reason, everybody around the wasteland is like, oh, you're the person that can do everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there might be some really.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: form and they need you and there might be some real dark endings but there's also positive ones and most players will try to do the positive yeah totally totally get it but here let's get into I want to hear more about some of the specific details now that we've established that this is absolutely something that every one of us who's a fan of fallout would love to do and to be more part of the community and meet a bunch of people who love everything as much as you do what is it like let's just talk about the jamboree what is a day at that event
[SPEAKER_04]: one of you like to take me through like you wake up in the morning and then this is you get to go do this and then you go do this and then you go do this.
[SPEAKER_04]: What does that look like?
[SPEAKER_06]: So I got this one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so there we go.
[SPEAKER_06]: So imagine a convention.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like a Comic Con, anime Con, anything like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you do there?
[SPEAKER_06]: You go to a panels.
[SPEAKER_06]: You go to see your favorite artists.
[SPEAKER_06]: You go to buy things.
[SPEAKER_06]: But beyond that, what is there?
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, see, that's why I think this event is really unique and really cool because it's a build your own adventure at this point, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, if you're into the like Comic Con experience, you can go to the panels, you can go to vendor alley, you can go do all of that stuff.
[SPEAKER_08]: If you want something that's a little more involved, a little more immersive, we've got that too, or you can just go hang out and look at everyone's pool costumes.
[SPEAKER_08]: There's a little bit of something for everyone.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I think it's really fun.
[SPEAKER_08]: And this will be a challenge, funnel from this.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to take from the first year I'm going to take some rides, so that's what I'm going to do.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and the big way this year, so that's like, I'll get a layer of that you don't choose your own adventure.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you can't find me, I'm probably over by the funnel cake, so to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny because when we originally said we were doing in sudden flatwoods, a lot of people were like, well, why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's so rural and whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact of the matter is, they built that convention center there for a reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the absolute center of the state.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's easy to reach from everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what we did know going in was what
[SPEAKER_02]: we would get from it we get the convention center so we have all the panel rooms and there is good as any con you'd ever go to it's it's that kind of set up we've got for the gala we've got a ball room we've got all of that there's a k-way as part of their property walking distance down the hill that has this huge amphitheater where the live entertainment's going to play all weekend and these amazing bands that are very very theme to what we're doing bluegrass jazz
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of, you know, the country feel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in that area, we can have all our food trucks, we can have the vendor village, we have the immersion zone, all of that is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you park at Holly Gray Park, which is where most of the parking is, and that's just a couple miles down the road, we'll be shuddling people.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you walk, when you're there and you park, we've got an amusement park because we wanted to do a mini-camped and park kind of vibe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got rides, funnel cake boots, food boots, games, carnival games, midway games, that's the first thing you experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it really has nothing to do with the rest of what's going on, just a couple miles down the road.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we bring in Sutton for the Flatwoods Monster Museum and the Film Festival, all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: so that area became so ideal for what we're doing and real world locations where you will see the building that you will see the overseers house up in that hill right you'll see you know the the buildings in Sutton and five woods is a little different it's not quite like it is in the game but don't worry because you can take the bus excursions which we're going to the green
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to Halvisha, and we're going to the Transelicini asylum, so there's all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is to say how a day goes, it's entirely up to you, how you want to put that together.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could stay at the Museum Park all day long, and I'm sure some kids will, because they can't go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's different for everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I love after these events going on YouTube and watching people's experiences out there because they're all completely different even You know, I go, hey, I was there all day and I don't remember that hat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, you know, that's a mate like everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: has their own experience, and then you can, as Ross pointed out, you can kind of choose what you want to do for that day.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may go, hey, I'm going to go check out this voice actor panel inside the, the, the days in where we're, we're having a lot of the convention style part of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then I'm going to go hit vendor village outside, and then I'm going to go watch some of the music while I eat lunch at the amphitheater, and, and it's, so it's part inside part
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... two different towns that are right next to each other uh... so it's it's going to be at every one if you ask them what they did over the weekend i guarantee you're got a ten people get ten different responses so that's exciting for me yeah because they so much they do one of my favorite things is meet up with folks
[SPEAKER_05]: That's my, that's honestly my favorite thing, trading off some, trading off some bottle caps, giving a hug, getting to talk with people, maybe you'd only seen them online.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe you've only seen them as content creators.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it seems like a lot of the people that are there will be very open to talking to you, even if we're not officially there as like a VIP person or something, you know, it's like you can meet up or you make a new friend.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that is,
[SPEAKER_05]: one of the best parts on us.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love the other parts.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love all that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you don't want to be sociable, you don't have to either.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have a room for if you're overwhelmed.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is it called this room?
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have that deprivation chamber.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's actually a room we're
[SPEAKER_05]: Like a chill out when we do, we're having a room to help with that and also these areas are wide open.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can go walk off into the middle and nowhere if you want to.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have to be right up out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not the kind of thing where you gotta be right up in people.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's really open to all kinds of folks.
[SPEAKER_05]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_08]: That area in West Virginia is beautiful too.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, the tree is out there.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's got in May, oh, it's going to be so pretty.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to want to live there.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's a lot of things to do with myself.
[SPEAKER_09]: When I went the last time, it's so pretty.
[SPEAKER_09]: I went to the bottom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's beautiful properties.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: We can flip those, you know, like you could go to West Virginia in the autumn time where the leaves have changed.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, my gosh.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And just being a West Virginia, you get the feel of West Virginia.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You really do.
[SPEAKER_05]: You get, like, we kind of, it reminisces back to the different structures that are all tore up and stuff in there that you'll see buildings.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that looks like a building that's in this area.
[SPEAKER_05]: That even if something exact area, it's architecture of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the folks.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's just really neat.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let me talk to that real quick because, and I know time you want to know what it means to us, so I'm going to answer that question in this big-check, you know, what Mages said.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really wanted to do it in West Virginia from the beginning when we originally suggested it, because having done the travel show, I went from every corner of the state, every,
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, out to Canova and everywhere in between and the end of the deepest parts of Appalachia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everywhere I went, I was just welcomed by people and they are the hospitality of those people is unmatched is what I've experienced.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so in life.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I paint the picture of people who don't know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Your shipment travel show is you dressed up as a giant vault boy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Going to these locations and boy scout, you know, in a boy scout uniform with a funny voice Going to these locations to interview people about these locations that show up and follow games and all of that right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you haven't seen a go check it out, but also now imagine a grown man Walks up with a big funny costume who wants to do something about a video game that they may or may not have ever heard about and you're saying that they responded very positively to that
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god dude, and that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, at the Cranberry Glades, the Ranger, she knew about the game, she never played it.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's, she, and I came in the costumes, I have to.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, you're walking around in a full suit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like a full outfit, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, within five minutes, and my dog was always with me, so that kind of broke the ice too, but within five minutes, she's wanting to order pizza and spend time talking.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Canova Pumpkin House, the Rick Griffith who owns it, and now is a good friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked for hours that day I went there just as ask him if we could if I could shoot there and it's like everywhere I went it was like that and I and it is a range It's from Rangers to Moonchiders.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are the people I was with all the time
[SPEAKER_02]: every one of them was so kind and friendly and I'm not saying everybody's like that because obviously not but the majority of people are there and for us to come in and you'll hear this from because we immediately started working with the OES and the emergency services and the sheriff's department and different people there.
[SPEAKER_02]: To start doing the logistics planning of this, they were so thrilled and a lot of them knew about the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of the vendors had already started putting together scavenger hunts and they were going to do caps or they are doing caps and the caps and the different things that they got involved with.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are so excited and it's not just that we're bringing it to their to Braxton County.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that
[SPEAKER_02]: And we are, and it brings a lot of revenue to, in fact, estimate a $1.2 million of revenue for hotels, food, all of that, that's amazing, for the area.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in addition, we're doing the fall of our hope initiative, we're donating to the Mount your food bank, the fire departments, different things there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a huge impact across the board, which they are incredibly appreciative to.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the state tourism board is on, they're working with us, and everybody just comes together.
[SPEAKER_02]: The newspapers, the TV stations, everybody is so excited that this is happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's because, in a big way, we're all these outsiders from all every state is represented.
[SPEAKER_02]: Multiple countries are coming, people from different countries.
[SPEAKER_02]: all coming to West Virginia to see it, to experience it, and they're going to have that same feeling of hospitality and friendship that I encountered.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's wonderful because West Virginia of all states has needed that more than any other state.
[SPEAKER_02]: And because they've gotten such a bad rap, they're a whole this whole time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've never, you know, it's a state that is, it's a beautiful state with beautiful people and we can come in.
[SPEAKER_02]: and put that under the spotlight, we are more than happy, so that to me is shy or sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: My special, that's what I get out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm what's really neat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to mention that the community is full-out community is so amazing that
[SPEAKER_00]: This, you know, we hold these events in these small towns of flatwoods and Sutton and Nevada, it's good springs and sandy valley.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the only reason good springs residents, which there's only 200 of us there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the only reason that they don't get upset about thousands of people coming in and taking over
[SPEAKER_00]: their town is because the fallout fans are so amazing or so polite and nice and helpful and willing to volunteer that the people create their own volunteer groups that we don't even organize and they go and pick up afterwards.
[SPEAKER_00]: So after the whole weekend our goal is always to act like nothing like we were never there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the cleaner than it was the week before.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that happens organically.
[SPEAKER_00]: These volunteers from factions come together to set up their volunteer groups and it's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The brotherhood in the unclean competing to see who picks up the most garbage.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your point.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this whole video game that's post-apocalyptic and all brings everyone together in the nicest.
[SPEAKER_00]: possible, which and so that's that's what's really special to me about.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I I live the wasteland out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Goodsprings is the neat thing is how much for me, how closely for the Mavie Mayan version, the count of Goodsprings has very accurately depicted in Fallout and New Vegas.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I was talking about immersion.
[SPEAKER_00]: We deal with factions all the time, you know, maybe, you know, motorcycle clubs or those kind of things different different groups and military groups and such and then, and then there's, you know, there's scorpions out in the Good Springs area, not necessarily the size of red scorpions, but they're pretty big in that scene and and so it's really fun for me to get to live.
[SPEAKER_00]: the video game for some extent and now to expand out to West Virginia is even just more exciting because once again not just to cater to 76 fans but also fans of the other video games just can't make it out to the West Coast or don't have the time off or the money to travel and that kind of
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a good point is that you don't have to be somebody who plays Fallout 76 to go to this and enjoy being immersed, you know, in an event that celebrates Fallout as a whole full of Fallout fans, who are fans of all the games, and all of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And speaking of immersion, I want to learn more about this immersion zone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Grouching Clive, this is something I have in experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't been out to one of these.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is this brand new for this event?
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me more about it.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I'm so excited to tell everyone about this.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so the immersion zone, I made the mistake of calling it a larp not realizing that a larp was such like a spiky words that people have a problem with.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I want to clarify on the record that this isn't a larp.
[SPEAKER_08]: There's no prerequisite.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like you don't have to sign up for anything.
[SPEAKER_08]: You don't even have to like come and costume for wasteland, jamboree.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like you can just show up and you can interact.
[SPEAKER_08]: with the people that are in the large zone of the large zone for this event is called Bracken Holler.
[SPEAKER_08]: So we have a number of factions.
[SPEAKER_08]: Half of them are directly from the game.
[SPEAKER_08]: So we've got the on-clave, we've got the brotherhood, got NCR, the responders.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, and the responders, the responders bless them.
[SPEAKER_08]: They're they're doing a customer payer station.
[SPEAKER_08]: So if you're a costume by the sound like they're going to have like sewing machines on site where if you like, rips seeing me, you can take it and
[SPEAKER_08]: They'll run it through the machines for you because of course they would of course they would do that.
[SPEAKER_08]: That totally makes sense It's super on theme and it's actually really funny.
[SPEAKER_08]: You were talking about earlier how the on-clave and the brotherhood Like try to compete to pick up more trash like the brotherhood and the on-clave are like working together like behind the scenes They have like quest lines where you can go and like infiltrate the on-clave as like or you can go infertile the brotherhood as like a on-clave spy And they have all these different like really fun quest lines that you can go
[SPEAKER_04]: I imagine somebody walking up with an on-clave hat and like takes it off and holds it pineapple back and walks in and goes, hello fellow brotherhood brothers, whatever we call ourselves.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so there's, I've been working with all of these different groups and factions and stuff and there's a little bit of something for everyone like we are talking about.
[SPEAKER_08]: So there's
[SPEAKER_08]: Quest that are super easy, low entry or a low barrier to entry.
[SPEAKER_08]: So if you just want to go like not socialize and you want to just go like take a picture with, you know, like one of the many cryptids will have out there.
[SPEAKER_08]: You can do that and you can, you know, progress your quest line for that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Or there's some, you know, like we were talking about, some more elaborate espionage type quests.
[SPEAKER_06]: like imagine if you actually want to be the player character for one of the games and you want to go you know win the game there's there are quest lines that are you know deep and evolved multi-layered and that will sometimes take more than a day to complete yeah and you can actually like complete quest lines that have multiple stages and you get rewards and all sorts of stuff
[SPEAKER_08]: And there's going to be people that are bartering, bartering is kind of an interesting thing that I'm trying to introduce to this community because a lot of people think like, oh, bottle caps are currency, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's like most people that are using bottle caps are using them more like a calling card.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like people put their contact information on their bottle cap and like
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, this is how you can find me after the event.
[SPEAKER_08]: So bottle caps don't have a currency value ascribed to them, but bartering on the other hand, people can bring out like little trinkets, props, stickers, like whatever they want to make, whatever they want to bring out.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like there's someone out there that's going to think it's cool and want to trade you for it.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think the borrowing aspect of it is I personally love partoring.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like what my favorite things to do at these types of events.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I'm really excited to bring that out.
[SPEAKER_06]: So the immersion zone has a lot of different things that you know, it's it's it's part swap me, it's part love.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's part, it's part just, you know, photo wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is is part camping in is part survival and it's all fun.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_08]: So some of the other things we're going to have out there is someone's
[SPEAKER_08]: faction where you can actually go sign up to be a bounty and someone else another attendee will hunt you down and challenge you to a game of like rock paper scissors or I don't know like what are your challenge that they come up with?
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh more go yeah yeah so there's all sorts of fun stuff
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm so excited about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's super cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That seems like such a fun way to differentiate this from other events.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it feels so fallouty, but it also plays into everybody wanting to dress up or play these roles or be like,
[SPEAKER_04]: be in, again, bringing the Lord of life, trying to be a little bit more in the world that we love in our own world at the same time, and just kind of expanding that out.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is so cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now speaking, we bring up people getting dressed up.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are some of the coolest cosplay things that you've seen at these events?
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: So this isn't even the coolest thing about that.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is literally the coolest thing I've ever seen on my entire life.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like I've been a hard core fallout fans since it came out like I don't want to date myself or anything but I've been playing two since it came out like 98 like I played 1 and 97 and I know a guy he comes out to new Vegas he goes by smithy at these events and he has a screen accurate version of Highwayman which is the
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like when I first saw it in person, I literally just started screaming at the top of my lungs and I screamed so loud that he literally like pulled over and he's like, Oh, you must figure out because apparently he had to open on my ear.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, it's so good.
[SPEAKER_04]: We made a whole bunch of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So his cosplay is an entire car.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it still has a really cool, like vault suit that he's put it out and it's based on it.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like his vault suit is really based off of your character you would play in two.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it's got all these tribal elements to it.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I see you dressed up in a whole suit of power armor.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, so tell us about the Fisto costume.
[SPEAKER_04]: What was this?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously, it looks like Fisto from I love it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: So the guy who built this is actually really cool.
[SPEAKER_08]: Me and him and the guy that Old Manley River was talking about in the power armor that did the first year's costume contest.
[SPEAKER_08]: The three of us are going to judge the costume contest at Wasteland Jambory.
[SPEAKER_08]: So that's going to be really fun, but yeah, Fisto made the Protectron, which is Fisto.
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's got like voice modulators in it and stuff, all this sort of cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_08]: But he is actually the other person I was going to mention on the coolest cosplay because he has the most screen accurate fallout to cosplay I've ever seen and he had like all these really cool niche little props like he had like the rope and like all these security cards you get from like
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, the Gecko power plant and all those like super, super niche fallout to stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I spent like half an hour just geeking out on this cost of like, oh my god, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have this, and you have
[SPEAKER_02]: But then I'll also turn around and see a 10-year-old in T-45 proper right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's something he made out of like cardboard in his garage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's really well done But it's limited because right so we want to be able to break it into categories So everyone has a chance to show their cosplay and to share it and and possibly win so I don't know what
[SPEAKER_02]: If Tharo is here, she could answer her, but she's at WonderCon right now, they could, there's a children's category, there's some kind of intermediate, and then there's the studio quality guys, gratches, there are more categories, or is that where we are?
[SPEAKER_08]: not a hundred percent sure about the categories, but I do know that there are two like costume cosplay-focused events.
[SPEAKER_08]: There's the official contest where it's going to be like judge and meetered and there's prizes and stuff that you can earn.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then there's like the cosplay fashion show I think is the helping it.
[SPEAKER_08]: And basically if you're not into your thing or you don't want to go through you know the four-hour process of being in the costume contest, there's going to be an hour at the amphitheater where you can kind of just
[SPEAKER_08]: people can come and walk on stage and, you know, do their little dance on the catwalk and then they can show off and, you know, um, they don't have to compete and they can still get that right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm too sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's power.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It looks like on the website.
[SPEAKER_05]: It looks like the entry levels will be vault dweller, which are, um, folks who haven't entered a contest before the radar.
[SPEAKER_05]: who is for folks that have one three or more novice awards are folks that have one three or less journeyman intermediate awards and then overseer for folks that have one three or more journeyman intermediate awards they have a very broke down and then behemoth is for those makers who build hot costumes professionally are working cosplay as a career there we go and I had that all men I attended more so many meetings I guess I would have known this
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking at the left, I'm looking at the left side here, I didn't have the right.
[SPEAKER_05]: You were talking, I was looking it up.
[SPEAKER_09]: I like how that's broken down.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the same thing, I'm pretty good at this.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then there are things that I'm like, I am not good at that at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: and I just, that is magic and so this is one of those things people who spend a lot of time and effort and talent and skill and artistic talent and all of that and they put together a thing and then they walk out in this outfit that took them who knows how long but you're standing then you're like,
[SPEAKER_04]: You're, where you in the show, where you in the TV show, like what is going on?
[SPEAKER_04]: This is amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I can't do that, but I'm so glad there are people who can.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that is like that is something to be celebrated.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's a fun question.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is an outfit that you haven't seen that you would love to see?
[SPEAKER_04]: What would be something that would just knock your socks off?
[SPEAKER_04]: Even if it wasn't like the highest quality, like not somebody who's professionally doing this, but somebody who just really gave it a solid try and pulled something out of like a really cool lore reference or a type of outfit that you've never seen before, or maybe...
[SPEAKER_02]: I can think of one damn, and I kid you not because this was going through my mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought what haven't we seen?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we literally have seen everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you see somebody come in as the house monitor,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Make it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: For fist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or the group.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or the wing pins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have seen it all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Except.
[SPEAKER_09]: Amazing power.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a sad lack of super mutants.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though every so many scene won.
[SPEAKER_02]: but the tree guy is the one thing that you have.
[SPEAKER_07]: Harold, Harold, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, any.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you could do Harold at different stages.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you could have somebody who's like, you know, younger, Harold with the twigs sticking out.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then you could have an entire tree costume.
[SPEAKER_04]: It would be amazing.
[SPEAKER_07]: There it goes.
[SPEAKER_07]: It would be amazing.
[SPEAKER_09]: It would be amazing.
[SPEAKER_07]: It would be amazing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It would be amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's yeah, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going to be on the ground, we're going
[SPEAKER_05]: When one we had to inflate her donut One thing at the homers you can donut when we need more jet packs people I want to see like pretend planes coming out and every day once.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I want to see girlfriend But I want to know
[SPEAKER_05]: But I want to see like I'm I'm a jetpack and gal myself in game So I want to see like the packs on these power.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know that adds a little more.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry guys And absolutely more than these power-owners.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I don't know how they could do it But yeah, it would be really neat.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would be fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm sure there's somebody out there who can figure it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like people are very creative.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so as we're getting closer to the end of this conversation is we've talked about a lot of the different features We've talked about what's going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've talked about cosplay.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've talked about the immersion zone We've talked about the bands and the getting to meet voice actors and other artists and talented people and meet just meeting other people We've gone through all that stuff
[SPEAKER_04]: What is there, is there one other thing that you do absolutely want to make sure that people who have not experienced this before know about it, or something that they should look forward to?
[SPEAKER_09]: There's going to be a lot of really amazing panels, and I definitely, you know, if you're interested in learning about modding these games, we're going to do two sessions.
[SPEAKER_09]: talking about this and, you know, there's going to be people who stream that are going to be talking and people that, um, well, perky pile for one who used to actually work at Bethesda will be talking, which is really, really cool.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't see that every day.
[SPEAKER_09]: He actually worked on the fallout game.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, there's podcasters and then there's the travel one that the chips doing where we're all going to show that in real life stuff and how good of a job, but that's the does with, you know, actually going out and making these real life locations look so close to, you know, what they do it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Did they put him in the game and it's just like, oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, that's uncanny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, you're actually there.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's so surreal, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And even when it's not like a one to one ratio, they, they really capture the feeling of a place.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've interviewed me a few times, so I took a pile on the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she always has some really interesting things to create.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I involved he's, he was with, uh,
[SPEAKER_04]: developing fallout and I mean he'll he'll talk about how he was behind a lot of the lot of the spooky stuff in the games and like the weird things and he just loves that stuff and I love that stuff too and it's I think you're right I think going to these panels and actually getting to meet these people and see them and and ask them questions and yeah and everybody is super nice like totally walk up to us afterwards ask us all kinds of questions
[SPEAKER_09]: We're there for that purpose.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're hanging out and we're excited about what we're doing and we want to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, please talk to us about it.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's also trivia, which is really fun, and I believe we've got family feud and name that tune.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got family feud and name that tune and I love fortune.
[SPEAKER_09]: Wheel of fortune.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, that's great.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's, that's, that's what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, I forget about the game.
[SPEAKER_07]: I forgot about the game.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I forgot about the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here, here.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've never been, I think the one thing that people say every time after they attend, they're like, this is, some people say, hey, I've gone to 30 years of, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Tom McCons and these types of conventions and they're like, this is my favorite because it doesn't feel like a convention and because and we never want it to be like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't ever want it to be just a convention style where you're you're just in a hotel going from room to room and that's that's all you have to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always an immersive experience and we've said that all along even though sometimes these larger corporations will choose to participate.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've always promised from day one that it would never be a corporate of that and it would always be fan-driven and we're living up to that better than ever before.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's more
[SPEAKER_00]: fans producing more parts of this the event than ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you've never been before, it's an experience like you've never had it at anything anywhere else in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I do have a there's a couple of things people couldn't do ahead of time to join in on the phone early.
[SPEAKER_05]: they can submit a film and you go to the lacelandjamboree.com to get this done ahead of time.
[SPEAKER_05]: April 10th of the date for submitting short films.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and that's right there.
[SPEAKER_05]: It has the click on it, submit your film.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's all the specifics on that.
[SPEAKER_05]: You get an award if you win and all the things.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's also volunteers.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, he's got the award right there.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's really cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a vote boy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, and yes, and then also they have a whole new fancy system of volunteers now.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to understand exactly But we've got you can be a scout a Ranger and this has to do between the West and the East Coast one and you can volunteer right get T-shirt and all this and you get a certain amount of time You get this award and it's all the information on the website and that is this has applied to volunteer right there on the website
[SPEAKER_05]: So check out the website.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's that's my input.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some of these stuff you start in the fun early.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just start up on it early.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so uh, good point volunteers for the immersive zone too.
[SPEAKER_08]: If anyone wants to be just like an ambient like, you know, barter merchant or, you know, quest giver anything like that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like there's this, you can go to the immersive experience page on the website.
[SPEAKER_05]: do more immersive stuff the NPC that's also that's also yeah if you don't want to bring out a whole faction you can just be a one-off NBC and not would be happy to have y'all that's great and wastelandjambory.com just in case people keep on mentioning website wastelandjambory.com also some of the tours are still a bit oh I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt your idea some of the tours are still available so that's something you can buy ahead of time too yeah that on so hilvisha
[SPEAKER_02]: go down the hell be shit to her yes drive in your way up there because you like it up in one scale it's not like fast not the or our tour guide is the guy who made the masks the original masks
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to take you into most of the buildings.
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot do that and fast-knocked.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he has a rare opportunity.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I wouldn't have to say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's hold there, too, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_09]: The window of some of these buildings, you will actually see things that you recognize from Fallout 76 as little objects.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's a fair example.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_09]: That I thought was so cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't think I got a lunch from the hot-a-house, so they're not going to wait until the morning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, is it not good, Veda?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, I went all my gossip to make the food.
[SPEAKER_09]: That was so sad.
[SPEAKER_09]: They will fill yummy.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not going to be able to go this time either.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh no!
[SPEAKER_02]: So just to conclude that point, the green briar is sold out, but Halvisha and the transelagany still have spots.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're if you're planning and sending the excursions, those are two great ones.
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know how high-o cowboy words are hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: You had something you wanted to chime in to.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're getting through everybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: So go ahead and share.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah so i just wanted to jump in on the volunteering so we are coming very close to obviously what uh excuse me wasteland jamboree uh the event going live um so if you don't get a chance to volunteer for this and you are planning to jump out to mojave in mayhem and they guess
[SPEAKER_01]: Still, I hit that link.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's obviously on MojaveMaham.com.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the way SlimeDemory.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're still wanting to be a volunteer, there's still another opportunity to do so.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as Mal was covering, we are doing a tiered system this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first year that we're implementing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: To where the more you volunteer, the more time and it doesn't matter between what event, you can combine those.
[SPEAKER_01]: You will get leveled out, so to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: through the tiers and with that you get access to more items, different gear, and different perks.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's something that I would highly recommend if you're interested in volunteering, whether it's anything from fighting the on-play from Brotherhood to pick up trash.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's volunteers for that, all the way to the meat and greets with the boys' actors and the actors from the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have volunteers all over for different specialties or different roles, and it all goes back to the same tiered system.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I highly, highly recommend everyone look into that, because there's a lot of great stuff that can come from that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, there's nothing better than being able to do a little bit to help the event run along,
[SPEAKER_01]: you might think you're doing a job, but you get some, you know, off the cuff interactions that you wouldn't have if you were just kind of milling around through the event.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my little two piece on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I think that's a long way on the website.
[SPEAKER_09]: And sorry, it's a long theory where on the website.
[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, go check it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think a lot of there are people.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm one of them who Here's an example.
[SPEAKER_04]: I used to tour in a band and in fact I played many bands and I toured in bands I'll try to get a record deal and all of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Today, it's very hard for me to go to a concert And a lot of people will look at me like, oh, you're crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't you love these other bands when you want to go see them?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's hard for me to be the audience.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's a lot easier if I have a job to do and if I feel like I'm a part of the thing that's going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even if I'm not running it, even if I'm not even doing an important thing, I'm just volunteering and helping.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I would rather be
[SPEAKER_04]: backstage or a sidestage doing a thing, enjoying my time there, then being just a consumer in the audience.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have a feeling that there are people who are like me, who look at independent like this and they go, yeah, but I don't want to just go and be part of, quote, the audience.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then you give them the opportunity to volunteer and say, well, yeah, but you could be an NPC in the immersion thing, or you could go help, you know, set up and clean up or whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then all of a sudden it's like,
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, actually that sounds fun now because now I have I have kind of a goal.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a purpose.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I'm helping.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm adding something.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a little bit behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I get to talk to the other people who are behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now I feel like I'm doing something special.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that totally makes sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're one of those people who would look at an event like this and go, yeah, it's not for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Consider volunteering because it might absolutely be for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just haven't quite found the right role yet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and some people don't play in a community center way of playing fallout, like they play it on their own.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are not in your play in 76 with a bunch of folks.
[SPEAKER_05]: They play it on their own and they're very maybe they're a little quieter or maybe, but they want to join in.
[SPEAKER_05]: But they're like, I don't know anybody, you know, watch streamers.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that way, they can just jump in there and you will make friends volunteer and I bet you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: Make you get to know somebody.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is like, it's like, fast tracking.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like,
[SPEAKER_04]: fast tracking the social situation because all of a sudden you you go in you have people that you can talk to you get to know who are volunteering with you who are running the volunteers and that is an absolute like entryway into the social situation because somebody walks up and they go oh by the way did you know this person and you know you're introduced to people and you're now part of a social circle rather than just being a random person in the audience.
[SPEAKER_04]: But some people would rather just be the random person in the audience.
[SPEAKER_04]: Find the place where you fit.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I guess, and to wrap this up, that really kind of goes back to what we were talking about the beginning, is these kinds of events make sense because they allow everybody to be who they naturally are and to find a place in that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that is so wonderful.
[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you everybody for joining me, Chip.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's wrap this up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are there any final words from you about what's going on, or what people should know?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I, not at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I thank you again for the opportunity and everybody did a wonderful job.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is actually what I want to conclude with.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, as Steven said, you know, the management team is probably 30, 40 people total.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's even more than that that are essentially volunteers for the management team.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's the core team, which, you know, is about 10 or 5, 10 people, I would say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, everybody has coalesced in such an amazing way and brings their own talents and their own skill sets, but more than anything, their passion for what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've managed, I've been a general manager over the years, different times, and work is different because you have to work and you may not love it, but whatever,
[SPEAKER_02]: But to have a management team that's passionate and driven and creative and just so energized, it is a blessing and just it's such a wonderful experience to work with all these people, to create these events and then share with the community.
[SPEAKER_02]: And give back to these larger communities that is why it's all worthwhile and what we talked about at the beginning before we serve according to him That's the point I mean if somebody asked me why do you do this that's why I do it because I love this family so much.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, people are as nerdy as I am Right I think that there's how that makes me feel yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's some I think there's a powerful thing to say there because again talking about the current status of the world How many people are tired of everything being run by these corporations in the bottom line and making money is the they're gonna screw over all their customers Because they want to find the best way to make as much money as possible without somebody not buying their thing or whatever, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And to be a part of something that the goal isn't to make anyone rich
[SPEAKER_04]: The goal is to bring people together to contribute to a community, to contribute to the community you're going to, to raise money for another community.
[SPEAKER_04]: The amount of benefit that comes out of that, that is more than just we need to put more money in some CEO's pocket or some investors' pocket.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that brings the meaning.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me put that in a good perspective, Tom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Steven and Stephanie made the decision last year that 50% of our profits for either of that go to the charity that we're sponsoring.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, for Mojavey, mayhem, it's St. Jude for...
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... ways in jemry it's pine your food or the mountain your food bank fifty percent of the profits now there's no other company i've ever worked for that would do that yeah yeah that's amazing that is me and it's neat when you when you're partying for a good cause is just makes it even better
[SPEAKER_00]: that's been our whole point from the beginning to your point was not to get greedy and try to make a bunch of money.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's to entertain the fans and for the longest time we were able to not even charge at all because I've gone to the community knows I'm a big Star Wars geek.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the first Star Wars convention I went to I was like
[SPEAKER_00]: I paid like 200 bucks to get in here and then now I got to pay like 40 hours for each sandwich I wore and then I just walked room to room and it and I was like broke by the end of the weekend and so We you know our goal is always just to break even and then because when you when the event gets to a certain size You have expenses you just can't avoid like busing people around and security and emergency medical personnel and those kinds of things
[SPEAKER_00]: But if we, the goal hopefully will be to make some money so we can also provide a decent contribution to the food bank there and be a real part of the community and and we as chips said everyone's so nice and inviting and and you know we want to give back and then I'd love to give back to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: to these group of volunteers who dedicated now the whole last of their year into getting these events organized.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's if that would be my goal as well because everyone's doing this for free.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's everyone's volunteering their time and as Chip said, it's just all passion and and I feel lucky to have gotten to know you all and everyone else that's involved.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's the coolest thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well this guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wish you the best of luck I'm so glad that all of you are contributing to this and I hope this continues I hope a lot of people will go to wastelandjambree.com Check it out if you haven't looked at it consider going being a part of this under especially understanding that not only are you going for a great time, but it's also going to benefit a lot of people And how many how many people would say I went on vacation and half the money that I paid for my vacation went towards charity like
[SPEAKER_09]: I got sued for myself and shut a whole bunch out of the people right here.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can Right, yeah, that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is really cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, thank you.
[SPEAKER_09]: That final cake is gonna taste even Kind of fried stick of margarine
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