[SPEAKER_10]: Hi, I'm Matt Leib, and I'm Vince Mancini, and this is Matt, and I'm Vince Mancini, and this is Matt, and I'm Vince Mancini, and I'm Vince Mancini, and I'm Vince Mancini, and I'm Vince Mancini, and I'm Vince Mancini, and I'm Vince Mancini, and I'm Vince Mancini.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We're just breaking balls, dude.
[SPEAKER_10]: Break barriers, breaking balls.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know if we'll ever do that show.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, today's episode is the summer man from season 4 of Madman episode 8 and we have a wonderful guest.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is a first time guest.
[SPEAKER_10]: A first time longtime as no one says he is a comedian and he is the host of the wonderful podcast.
[SPEAKER_10]: I hate Bill Mar.
[SPEAKER_10]: Ladies and gentlemen, everyone.
[SPEAKER_10]: I was welcome to the podcast.
[SPEAKER_10]: We're welded.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, thanks for having me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great, you know, most podcasts you do.
[SPEAKER_03]: They put all the plugs in the hay, sign up for the Patreon.
[SPEAKER_03]: They put that at the end, but I appreciate the way you guys put it at the top.
[SPEAKER_03]: You make me sit here in silence.
[SPEAKER_03]: You make the guests sort of sit there, twiddling their thumbs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a little bit like the picture.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're trying to like, we're trying to innovate in making our guests feel like we invented it, though.
[SPEAKER_10]: because there was a time where, yeah, at the end of the episode, everyone's like, Ben, please do follow and subscribe and I was like, y'all, what if, like, right at the beginning, you're just like, hi, everyone, help.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, I need some money.
[SPEAKER_11]: Help.
[SPEAKER_10]: Not just any money.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not the song.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not the draperty story for today, though.
[SPEAKER_10]: I did think about that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Will well, then.
[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you for coming on.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is a podcast about madmen, but I want to ask you.
[SPEAKER_10]: What's your favorite advertisement?
[SPEAKER_03]: So my favorite advertisement is one for the mobile game Royal Kingdom.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the reason I love this ad so much is because the ad is Kevin Hart, uh, he is doing stand-up comedy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's on a stand-up comedy set.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like a brick wall behind him or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's doing stand-up and somebody in the crowd is on their phone and he goes, hey, excuse me, are you on your phone while I'm doing stand-up?
[SPEAKER_03]: And the guy's like, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I'm just playing royal kingdom on my phone and Kevin Hart goes, oh, really me too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he pulls out his phone and the reason I love that ad is that people like to make fun of Kevin Hart for having like no principles or like he will shield for anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it has gotten so bad that he someone came to him and was like, here's our pitch for the ad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your standup comedy is so boring and bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: That not only is the audience on their phone during it, you're also on your phone during it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he went, sounds great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the check clear.
[SPEAKER_10]: Whatever give me money.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, okay, so I think I found that ad here.
[SPEAKER_10]: It is right here.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is for royal kingdom So I told the girl I said, we'll do me a favor put the money in the bag That's funny because that's what he told the probably that people would make this advertising So whatever good the guys balls were so big Excuse me
[SPEAKER_08]: You want your phone?
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, oh man, I'm playing this game real Kingdom.
[SPEAKER_08]: Love this game.
[SPEAKER_08]: You're playing Royal Kingdom.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, at my show.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: You do not have to apologize.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oops.
[SPEAKER_07]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, he brought out his phone.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm playing Royal Kingdom, but let's be clear.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm playing the game uninterrupted people.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_07]: No ads talking about buy this now.
[SPEAKER_07]: I hate buy, bro.
[SPEAKER_07]: I hate that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Say what I should eat, chew on your food, sir.
[SPEAKER_10]: OK. Dude, this is pathetic in ways I didn't know we're possible.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_11]: I do like the idea of putting like the deaf jam audience in there They're like, oh yeah, he's playing Royal King.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, that's just like this were at the Apollo would be much fun here Just there's a giant.
[SPEAKER_10]: What is that the cane that pulls people off stage?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the hook.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah Yeah, they're the clown with a broom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, people at the crowd just just shouting at him like, oh this guy's got no principles
[SPEAKER_10]: Boeing them off stage because he's doing a fucking ad for like scrubbing bubbles.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just in the middle of the of the act doing a product placement is really funny.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, so this is the first time we've ever had it on you have.
[SPEAKER_09]: We got this ad concept for you.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's about how you really love getting interrupted while you're trying to eat dinner with your family.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, oh yeah, let's do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_10]: Even if it ruins his life, he would still do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, this is the first time we've ever had, I think anyone bring up a mobile game ad, which is kind of incredible, because there is a, that's a whole other world of advertisements.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the lying mobile game ad to the point where it became such a thing that then they started advertising other mobile games by going, it's not a lie, that's the actual game.
[SPEAKER_10]: Those games were crazy.
[SPEAKER_10]: It would just be like this fish has to eat a fish of bigger number in order to eat the biggest fish Who's like got a big big number and I remember going like that sounds like a stupid game Why would anyone play that?
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm gonna download it though
[SPEAKER_10]: And then you try to play that game, and it's like, nah, this is you just kind of got to match the squares.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I was like, well, why'd you show me the fish?
[SPEAKER_10]: That dude, on the name moved on to it was in the early days.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like fish.
[SPEAKER_10]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's good though.
[SPEAKER_10]: well that's the traditional that that is the traditional order of the fishing and that's true yeah yeah I guess I guess cast should be in there that's a classic bait cast in fish is what that is we were first engineered the act of fishing on actually but my actual favorite mobile ads are the ones that are like they're animated and it's like a girl and her husband and
[SPEAKER_10]: She has it'll be like stink lines in her armpits and the husband leaves her and then her and her baby have to live in an in an old home That in the winter you're like tapping you're like tapping it's like tapping options like yeah, yeah, it's like she leaves and then it's like help her or abandoned her
[SPEAKER_03]: and you move her into a cabin?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I remember those guys.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love those.
[SPEAKER_10]: Those are just the most insane storyline you could even consider.
[SPEAKER_10]: And you just kind of go with it waiting for that X.
[SPEAKER_10]: But you're like, well, now they're just that head.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now they're just the ads on YouTube that are just AI and are just like the man was walking through the park when the woman fell through from the sky and her angel wings were caught on a tree and were pulled off and then the man helped her and he took her to a bar where they served her drinks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I watched one of those I watched one of those for I swear to God four straight minutes Yeah, I was like, oh no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_10]: I was what are they selling?
[SPEAKER_10]: I knew for no I was just like I think there's a game It says skip I can skip now, but I don't want a skip.
[SPEAKER_10]: I want to know why why we doing this
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think the thing it really, the thing it seems to most effectively be advertising is for the viewer to end their own life because if you spend like five minutes watching something like that, it's like, well, what's the point of carrying on?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, it's a way of letting the viewer know that like,
[SPEAKER_10]: you have time to kill and you're nothing and you don't deserve to live but this is an podcast about how sometimes the consumer of content does not deserve to live no this is a podcast about madmen and we of course cannot start the podcast without first playing the theme song
[SPEAKER_10]: All right ladies and gentlemen everyone else once again we're talking about from season four of madman episode eight the summer man Vince Can you break us off a little piece of that synopsis?
[SPEAKER_09]: Dawn attempts to regain control over his life through physical changes and journal writing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Betty forbids him from attending Eugene's birthday party and is flustered when she and Henry run into Dawn and Bethany on a date.
[SPEAKER_09]: Dawn's persistence with Fay results in an impromptu dinner date, Joey Sexism, creates friction with Joan, forcing Peggy to take action.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right, but more importantly, those are the things that happen in the episode, but I think more importantly, what is happening at the time this episode is set in.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right, we cannot evaluate a period piece divorced from its period context.
[SPEAKER_09]: We like to put some of that context back in with a little segment that we call the news machine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want my ass from Wall Street Journal.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's news, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_09]: That's news.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're going all the way back to September 12th, 2010 when this episode aired.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that means the news machine is going all the way back.
[SPEAKER_09]: To September 12th, 1965, the year that the show is set in.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm taking you to the Beaumont Texas Enterprise for this story.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a name of a newspaper.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: In Beaumont, Texas.
[SPEAKER_09]: Beaumont, Texas Enterprise.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that going to city like Beaumont had like six newspapers?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is back when the print news was still something that people had.
[SPEAKER_10]: So much so that there were... Give me a picture of myself.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, chronicles I've seen times, of course, I've never heard of an enterprise.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you have now.
[SPEAKER_09]: I have now.
[SPEAKER_09]: Headline, mother misled.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sun.
[SPEAKER_09]: 17 is sent to war zone.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: They misled the mother.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: A US Marine Corps recruiter admitted Saturday.
[SPEAKER_09]: He led at least one mother to believe her 17-year-old son would not be sent into combat until he became 18.
[SPEAKER_09]: The rain's promptly cleared up what they call the misunderstanding.
[SPEAKER_09]: The mother indicated approval and the Marines promised it wouldn't happen again.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, it can't happen again.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not how it, it's not how it, it's not how it works.
[SPEAKER_10]: crazy.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sorry about that never again.
[SPEAKER_10]: We'll never send him in when he's 17 again.
[SPEAKER_09]: Representative John Coniors called the meeting at the request of Mrs. Blanche and Hubert of Detroit.
[SPEAKER_09]: She claimed her son Carl, now a bazooka loader in Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hell yeah, good job.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, you know, if you're going to do something in the army, bazooka loading seems like a pretty sick thing to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, did you say John Coniors?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he's very old.
[SPEAKER_03]: He retired from Congress, not even a decade ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It can't be the same guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like a civil, he was on Nixon's enemies list.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like a civil rights hero who ended up getting dementia and like sexually harassing his staff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then like even Congress into what in what order?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think I think dementia and then the rest of the staff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was on Nixon's list after Nixon died.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like one of Nixon's grandchildren who put him on that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I feel like dementia.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's not just an excuse, the sexual harassment, but it's like, well, what are you gonna do?
[SPEAKER_10]: It was like when George H. W. Bush was like squeeze and asses.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was just like
[SPEAKER_10]: You listen.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's got dementia.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's in a wheelchair and he's done so much work.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just like Stan for feet away.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_09]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Man yourself a man comes out in favor of crypt keeper sexual harassment.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, sorry.
[SPEAKER_10]: We've been stuck in a watching a show about the 60s.
[SPEAKER_10]: So now we feel like we're men's men's now.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're men's men's.
[SPEAKER_09]: Carl, now a bazooka loader in Vietnam was misled into believing he would not be sending to combat For fun, you know t-shirt can and type stuff If I wanted someone to take bazooka loads, I'd call Matt's mom
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm like you.
[SPEAKER_11]: Good.
[SPEAKER_09]: Misses, you were assigned a waiver to allow her son to join the Marine's last February.
[SPEAKER_09]: She described Carl as, quote, a dedicated Marine.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, he loves blowing that bazooka.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's been practicing since he was a kid.
[SPEAKER_10]: Any update on whether Carl lived?
[SPEAKER_10]: I looked for him.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was not listed as one of the Vietnam War casualties.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I believe he did live through the war.
[SPEAKER_09]: So good for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's also funny to be like like breaking new story army army recruiter lies to recruit like my god
[SPEAKER_09]: are the United States are me now I guess military next we have one of my favorite news machine segments which is describe a pretty lady which was like the popular genre of article in the 60s were so cool you could just have a whole newspaper that was like I saw a new pretty lady today
[SPEAKER_09]: Also from the Beaumont Enterprise, shape Lee Kansas Beauty, prospective pediatrician is Miss America of 1966.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Deborah Bryant, 19, a brown hair beauty from Kansas, was named Miss America of 1966, Saturday night.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah, what's her name?
[SPEAKER_09]: Deborah Bryant.
[SPEAKER_09]: She does look like quite a dish.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_03]: I leave my office in like three hours and my wife's like, why did it take so long?
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, oh man, I have a crazy edging session.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, she is hot though, I'm gonna miss Bryant.
[SPEAKER_09]: A five foot seven Christian college beauty who will enter Kansas University as a junior this fall.
[SPEAKER_09]: Wanna swim suit preliminary in the pageant?
[SPEAKER_09]: She weighs 115 pounds and thank you for telling me how much she weighs.
[SPEAKER_10]: I always feel like that's the most important thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And measures 36, 23, 36.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, what a winning hand!
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, the song break break house.
[SPEAKER_09]: Deborah, who wants to become a pediatrician because of her love for children, hopes to enter Kansas University Medical School after graduation.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, let's try to finish college before we get on to med school.
[SPEAKER_10]: But let's start there.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe your love of children will derail that a little bit, don't you think?
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, because you're gonna get knocked up.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, do you like podcasts that are about massaging and massagenistic at the same time?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think you know as a guy who's podcast is entirely about Bill Marr It's certainly something I have to wrestle.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that comes up a lot is he'll do some racist joke And I'll be like that's not the racist joke.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is the racist joke Yeah, that is that is a recurring theme on that podcast which is just like he's not even doing the good version of this racist joke
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then so I have all this like bigotry swirling around in my head all the time now Because I'm like, I'll done the of racism.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's not a rice is joke.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not a Japanese stereotype Yeah, this is a Japanese stereotype.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I slam a big camera down on the table.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not a chau-lo-x, and Yeah, they see
[SPEAKER_09]: We're going over to almost past out.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we're going That does my cousin sleeper Going over to the San Francisco Chronicle for this one.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is my other favorite genre is Articles about gangsters that seem to be written in a sort of gangster Petwa Gangland, Crony, Slain, and Chicago
[SPEAKER_09]: Mandel Manny Scar, a dapper little gangster's crony who dreamed of building a little lost Vegas on Chicago's outskirts with shot and killed in a professional gangland style hit yesterday outside his Lakeshore Drive apartment.
[SPEAKER_09]: Scar 41 was nailed with 438 caliber bullets as he carried a bag loaded with delicate tests and salami from his 1965 black converter.
[SPEAKER_09]: Nailed them.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, he's never gonna eat it, that's lamb, y'all know, you're gonna have to eat it up at the floor
[SPEAKER_03]: The modern version of that would be like he got his ass nailed by four bullet or he got his ass wrecked by four bullets We need that modern way of writing in that style.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Scar was under indictment on charges of evading $417,000 in income taxes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Charles Sirusza to be clear is his name scar as an S. K. A. Yeah, or S. K. It's not like Scar face
[SPEAKER_10]: No, so I love this.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love just real quick.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love it when you find out a little a little gangster guy is One of the rare Jewish gangsters That's my favorite thing ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so you're like at the psychiatrist from the soprano.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, those were some tough juts That is how I feel Like oh
[SPEAKER_09]: Charles Syracuse, executive director of the Illinois Crime Investigating Committee, said, Mani was hit because the outfit believed he was stooling to federal investigators or would do so in his trial, opened October 11.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh damn way he was a rat.
[SPEAKER_10]: He well, they thought he might become a rat because yeah, my He got died it Police I see this is a problem with them.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh comparing a Jewish man to a rat Wow, he decimated a drug heard this trope before Much for the tolerant laugh
[SPEAKER_09]: Police also speculated that Skar, a high-rolling gambler and Wheeler dealer, whose operation spread through Las Vegas and Los Angeles, might have defaulted on a debt or double-crossed an underworld boss.
[SPEAKER_09]: Although Skar never made the front ranks of the crime syndicate, he was believed to be its loyal frontman in real estate and other promotions, and he was the buddy of such reputed lords of the outfit as Sam Giancana and Marshall Kaifano.
[SPEAKER_10]: A three time loser, Skars career hit its high point in 1962 when he opened a lavish establishment called Mani Skars Sahara in This is the meanest fucking unity like this is like this why would it's written half as a new story half as like a obituary roast Yeah, it's fucked up
[SPEAKER_09]: Scar hoped to operate the end with glitter of a Las Vegas gambling casino and the opening night crowd included Hollywood celebrities, Jaja Gabor, George Jessel, and Martha Ray.
[SPEAKER_09]: But Scar lost the Sahara the next year to creditors after one of his entertainers, singer Bobby Darin was roughed up by hoodlums and police staged an narcotics raid at the end.
[SPEAKER_09]: X Cowboy star Jean Autry took over, but bowed out after the end was bombed twice.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, that'll happen.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love opening up your own Vegas.
[SPEAKER_03]: That reminds me of years ago outside the improv.
[SPEAKER_03]: I met this woman.
[SPEAKER_03]: who was staying at a hostel and she was like my plan is I'm going to open up the biggest management company that'll manage everybody comedians artists painters and her describing that to me I bet that's how it felt when some guy was going to be like some guy would be like hey I'm going to open up the next lost vagus outside of Chicago and just be like yeah sure man sure you're going to open up a little vagus outside Chicago
[SPEAKER_10]: There is, I think it's been a while since someone has given me their manic future plans.
[SPEAKER_10]: But I miss it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I miss when that was like a regular occurrence.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like there was a time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe it was because I used to hang out with mostly comics at OpenMikes.
[SPEAKER_10]: But the plans these men had, my God.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here's what I'm going to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm going to make a tour and I'm going to tour every single beach in the United States I'm only going to do beach shows and it's going to be all day hanging out with beach babes all night telling jokes and I was like, yeah, man You'll do that
[SPEAKER_03]: Boy, Americans used to dream, they used to dream of a better future, and now we have no hope, no jobs, and no cash.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's hope nothing happens to Kevin Bacon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, by the way, do you know any beach booking agents?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just messaging people or at the beach with their family?
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, who books that?
[SPEAKER_03]: I did you get that hey, who books a nice life I love to get up on that sometimes
[SPEAKER_10]: The entirety of my crowdwork, by the way, is turned into that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just say, hey, what do you do when they go, how do you get that kind of job?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's a link to the apprenticeship program.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, the go to school for things like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: How do they check that you actually got the degree?
[SPEAKER_10]: So there's no real way to know.
[SPEAKER_10]: There was no.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then you just move on to the next audience member trying to get their life.
[SPEAKER_09]: Anyways, does that uh you guys feel properly contextualized?
[SPEAKER_10]: I feel pretty contextualized now that I know what was happening in the 60s.
[SPEAKER_10]: I feel like we can finally start talking about what was happening in this episode.
[SPEAKER_10]: But first, here's a little bit of this week's Draper D story.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Instead of ticket to ride, it's uh, it's, I don't even remember what I wrote.
[SPEAKER_10]: I had to do this one fast because I'm going to the Great Wolf Lodge in a few hours, so I went last week.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, we had the cancel, so now I'm going to the Great Wolf Lodge today to do some indoor fucking water slides.
[SPEAKER_11]: Anyways, here's a song.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just want to point out that that first lyric is I think man gonna be mad and what was the second part?
[SPEAKER_10]: It's episode eight.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just wanted to say I'm just really like that lyric and I've been laughing about that for a while.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think he's got a drink plus you guys.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's got a drink plus you guys.
[SPEAKER_11]: Or he'll be dead.
[SPEAKER_10]: Or he'll be dead.
[SPEAKER_10]: Anyways, there's more to that song.
[SPEAKER_10]: Why?
[SPEAKER_10]: Because you want it.
[SPEAKER_10]: You idiots.
[SPEAKER_10]: So you can listen to that full stupid song at the end of the episode.
[SPEAKER_10]: But for now, let's talk about this one.
[SPEAKER_10]: Vince General thoughts this episode summer man.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm I'm sorry to interrupt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where did you say you were going in a few hours?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to Great Wolf Lodge.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to confess something that's embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You said Great Wolf Lodge and in my head for some reason that was the same that was both I thought you meant bohemian growth.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I assumed you were joking and so I was about to start laughing and then when it was treated seriously I was like wait, what am I thinking of instead and I googled satanic growth and this when I was like okay right right right Okay No, I'm not going to bohemian grow.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is not Austin in the fucking night
[SPEAKER_10]: Is that where it was or is that just where Aleppo was?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's in Monterey, California.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sorry to interrupt.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted to... No, that's a question.
[SPEAKER_10]: To ask that question in case anyone else thought I was going to bohemian grow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, oh, thank God.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not using whatever.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's not, you know, scaring children to death and then drinking the fluid that comes out of the... No, he is instead going to a indoor water park that basically does the same thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, except you're not allowed to kill the children.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, Vince, what are your channel thoughts on this episode?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, um, you know, I like following up on the episode in which Don finally opens up, uh, you know, madman immediately gives us this alternate universe Don who's so introspective that he now gets to have a voice over.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, then almost feels like a prank to me like engineered by Don Draper himself.
[SPEAKER_09]: Is this what you wanted to hear my innermost thoughts?
[SPEAKER_09]: You fucking idiot.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: you happy now um i think this episode is a bit of a troll but uh it's a good troll uh it also feels like we may be reached the limit of the original madman pitch uh the mysterious guy with a fake identity making his way through that advertising industry uh we did that
[SPEAKER_09]: The latter half of the sixties are here and now the show has to do something different.
[SPEAKER_09]: I haven't rewatched past this point in my second watch of the show, but I get the sense that the voiceover is the way away of telegraphing a transition in the madmen in the scope of the madmen universe.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, Weldon, what did you think of this episode and madmen in general?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I will say I have not watched Madman.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember way all the way through or at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I've seen some episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: My wife really likes it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's watching Yeah, Bruno and
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember watching the pilots of Madman and breaking bad when they aired and sitting there in my apartment in Toronto and going, well, these aren't going to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like boring.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, one of you's just boring.
[SPEAKER_03]: The only one is stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: And which was which.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Breaking Bad was stupid and that man was born.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, um, the show, it's like, I, for some reason, though, have seen this episode, I swear to God, like five times, like the second, it started.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh my God, I got the fucking journaling episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I love the way Don Draper goes through the classic journaling journey, where the first time he writes it, he goes, I don't know what I'm doing, why am I writing this, this is embarrassing, and then by the end he's sitting there clearly going like, well, what would Don Draper write in a situation like that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like my, I was watching it with Borat and she looked over me and she was like, it's like funny how he is like such a pretentious at like his diary.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has begun writing it for someone else the way we all like, well, but surely my journal will be published someday and I'd like it to be more interesting than just I had a bagel of pizza bagel for lunch today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the second he learns to be introspective and vulnerable.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also remember people hating this episode like like Vince said that like we're feels like a bit of a troll.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember people being like, oh, what are we going to have narration on every episode?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this going to be like a thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: People seemed like genuinely irritated by this episode.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have that exact memory as well.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was uh,
[SPEAKER_10]: This show is almost like a victim of its time a little bit because it was like right at the beginning of People blogging about TV like and getting insane with it and it was such a popular show that like we've talked you know before about how they did like
[SPEAKER_10]: uh... there was a googling frenzy from some off-handed reference of few episodes ago where everyone's like what do they mean whose doctor liell Evans and was just a set up for a joke that was going to pay off like two episodes later but like people yeah with this episode i remember the same thing people just being like uh... i don't know what the show thinks it's doing with the narration but uh... they shouldn't have that and i just wanted to
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I like rewatching it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I wanted to yell at, you know, that version of the TV blogosphere and just be like, hey, can you guys shut the fuck up and watch the show?
[SPEAKER_10]: There's like, like, if you're actually
[SPEAKER_10]: paying attention to the narration, you realize fairly quickly that it's sort of a joke about how Don Draper is going to how he thinks he should sound in writing a journal.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like that's very fucking funny.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like yeah, the people were acting like it was sincerely poetic.
[SPEAKER_10]: But I was like, it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just like the literary sheen on, but there's a bunch of hot babes in there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Master Yeah, play with their pooses.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he's like, no, no, no, I got to make that sound like, like, fucking smart, like Hemingway wrote it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: I really like this episode in that, like,
[SPEAKER_10]: this is a we're taking the piss out of dawn episode whether or not uh you know people believe that at the time watching it i think it's pretty clear that uh and i also relate to it on the level of uh being an addict and recovery so you're watching
[SPEAKER_10]: the way in which you try to replace alcohol with like art.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's this is something I related to very deeply because like I remember when I was trying to get clean the first time.
[SPEAKER_10]: I was like, you know what I'm going to do?
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm going to write a new song every fricking day.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so like
[SPEAKER_10]: For for a month I wrote like 30 of the worst songs you've ever heard and then eventually went back to doing heroin and And it was like it was watching him do that.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's this like It's yeah to me.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a joke about a
[SPEAKER_09]: no longer think about getting drugs must stare at Naval.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I really loved watching him like trying to function as a normal person, while just looking at the clock, like when can I drink again?
[SPEAKER_10]: Looking at Peggy drinking, you know, her liquor and just being like, ugh, you know, just just not really being able to live in any moment, because he's like so desperately wants to drink.
[SPEAKER_10]: again.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then when he does get the drink, you know, trying to drink like a gentleman, like having exactly one beer as he journals.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's really fun to watch.
[SPEAKER_10]: I also, I love the, the Joey and Joan storyline.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think is, is really fun to watch because
[SPEAKER_10]: We talked about how Stan was misogynist, was a misogynist in previous episodes, and I was like, damn, that's kind of crazy, he's like, that's so much of a misogynist.
[SPEAKER_10]: And this one, Joey is just a piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's weird because it's like I do I mean other than like before he gets like, you know, extremely misogynist Like there's parts of me where I'm like, I feel like I've been the Joey and when I was working in the corporate world Sure, like when I'm like I'm not getting paid enough to care about the shit These are people care about and like I'm not going to
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not going to like invest more of myself in this than this job has invested in me kind of thing Yeah, and then he and then he turned into Mel Gibson and I was like, okay, well, he's worse than me Yeah, yeah, I've never been that bad.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but yeah, let's let's talk about this episode seen by scene Let's go into it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean when we start
[SPEAKER_10]: We've got Dawn, of course, narrating the episode, trying to quit drinking and he's lamenting about like being lazy.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's just like, I used to be so lazy.
[SPEAKER_10]: I wonder what would have happened if in high school.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'd stop being so fucking lazy.
[SPEAKER_10]: And all I can think of is, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: You still would have gone to Korea and killed the guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's at a swim club.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's trying to get in shape throughout this episode.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's narrating while he's swimming.
[SPEAKER_10]: Don getting healthy arc visually where you see him like first struggling with the swimming and then at the end he's like keeping up with the other people and it's like, oh, that's nice good for him now he's hot and in shape.
[SPEAKER_10]: Then a good portion of your sound resentful man.
[SPEAKER_10]: It is, oh, good for him.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's hot and then shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think it's fair.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think that what I like about Don Draper is that he looks hot on the outside, but on the inside, he's dying.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't want him to be healthy.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, I do appreciate like I feel like watching him swim confirms my take on the last episode, which was that, um, him pretending to
[SPEAKER_09]: not to be able to box at all was a artistic choice because you watch John Ham's swim in this and like he can actually swim.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like he has decent swimming form, which is like very not true of a lot of actors in swimming scene.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've seen in movies and television, but okay, this guy's clearly has swam before.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I confirmed my suspicion that that I think
[SPEAKER_09]: him doing like a weird shadow box where he looked like he didn't know what he was doing was a more of an artist.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: John Ham.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I mean, I think he is an athletic guy, you know, he is shoving a broom handle up a guy's ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that athletic?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because then we know he's an athletic guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: His toy is torturing a pledge athletic because then we know for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you do that?
[SPEAKER_09]: Is that a thing you kicked out of college for hazing?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, she's up the horrific horrific.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, shut the broom handle up someone's ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, did they lube it did they what little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds a little so I did murder.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's definitely a soul.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it was like, uh, they dropped charges in exchange for them all leaving the university or something like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, John Hamm, it looks like you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe it took four, four seasons and eight episodes for this to come up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, we don't even know the names of the actors.
[SPEAKER_09]: in the show.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I remember this story.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think he was a Sigma new at University of Texas, and I was thinking, man, you had to haze pretty fucking hard to get kicked out of University of Texas in the house.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is wild.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I worked with a guy one time who played football at the University of Las Vegas, and he was like, we had to stop multiple teammates from killing a heckler.
[SPEAKER_03]: in the parking lot after games like UNLV was where like the guys who failed out of the last chance university they ended up at UNLV.
[SPEAKER_10]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, the good thing is John Ham now is good guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: I assume so a good portion of the Joey and Joan and Peggy storyline revolves around a vending machine.
[SPEAKER_10]: The boys are banging against a vending machine trying to get Joey's watch out because apparently here's what happened The vending machine keeps eating people's change and I suppose they decided to try to stick someone's hand No, Joey had the smallest hand.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and Joey had the smallest hands, so in trying to get whatever they were trying to get out of there
[SPEAKER_09]: Harry had a light, Harry Creen had a light bulb moment.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, small hands on me.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I bet you might grab my insights.
[SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, he, he gets his watch stuck in there.
[SPEAKER_10]: And they, yeah, they have this insane scene where you see like Joan is like chiding them for being too loud and then Joey's like, oh, do sorry, mom.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, and then uh, she, she takes them aside to have a conversation about how like, hey, maybe, uh, you know, you shouldn't be such an asshole, and uh, this is what happened.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so arrogant.
[SPEAKER_05]: Me?
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you do around your besides walking around like you're trying to get raped?
[SPEAKER_05]: Excuse me?
[SPEAKER_06]: Lots of young girl off the bus.
[SPEAKER_06]: I need some mad on from a Shanghai or else to show me the ropes.
[SPEAKER_10]: So that is, um, that's too far is what I said.
[SPEAKER_10]: So why would it be a Shanghai Horous?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it feels like he's mixing his metaphors.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess metaphor and similarly is what he's mixing a little bit.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe he's responding to the red.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's a lot of she's wearing a lot of red.
[SPEAKER_10]: It feels, you know, Shanghai needs to wear red.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we would know the traditional lucky color of China.
[SPEAKER_03]: I assume he would.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a very cultured guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're walking around in China's traditional lucky color.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we get all right.
[SPEAKER_10]: We understand you know what year of what animal it is Okay, union quite a little all that shit fuck you or what if there was an episode of Madman where they had to do a an ad campaign for a shen-yun That'd be great guys.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh sick.
[SPEAKER_10]: I would love that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, we got to meet the moonies again
[SPEAKER_10]: I got a jam and we're gonna talk about when, you know, they can talk about general Chiang Hai check we're gonna have to unleash Chiang on this ad campaign Peggy later confronts Joey about this and
[SPEAKER_10]: It's funny, the mom comment is something that you think is kind of like, I don't know, it just seems like something a childish, you know, boy would say.
[SPEAKER_10]: But you find out that, oh, this really is a mom issue, and which I really enjoy.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's, uh, here's, that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: What did you do to the child?
[SPEAKER_06]: I told her, let me tell you something about the big ragu.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're creative, and she's an overblown secretary.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a Joan in every company.
[SPEAKER_06]: My mother was a Joan.
[SPEAKER_06]: Always telling everybody what to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: She even wore a pen around her neck so people would stare at her tits.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's not your mother.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, just so I'm clear, what he's saying there was that his own mother would tell people what to do and even wore a big pen around her neck so that everyone would look at his mother's tits.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I got from that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know a classic mom.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always trying to get you to look at her big beauty of jokes Insane to me.
[SPEAKER_09]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I feel like this show is so good at being precious about types of guys That would one day like come to her real society and like I feel like this is a very good portrait of like the anti-woke back last
[SPEAKER_09]: where you can tell like so much of that comes from like someone who just like got yelled at by one too many like liberal teachers who are humiliated by your third grade teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, she was always good asking us to read about Martin Luther King and tell me to stop Jack and off.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I hate her now all women because of it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and but it's it's really funny for him to just be like You know, she's exactly like my mother, especially the part with her massive fucking titties Always hanging out there making me horned for these chicks with big delicious hongers Yeah, they're all the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're all my mother all my mom all these asshole big-titted women not dumping them out
[SPEAKER_03]: It made me think of Steph and Mollonew that guy who was like, Yeah, it was radicalized when my mother forced me to take my Diary of Medicaid.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, wait, wait, wait, I don't know that story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was Steph and Mollonew who talked about like the traumatic event of his life as being a child and his mom making him take his like anti-diary of medication.
[SPEAKER_10]: What was dramatic about taking the medication?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it was, but it might have been a suppository, I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was, like, on the very, very early wave of, like, white nationalism.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, white nationalism and anti-feminism.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I guess I know him mostly for his like shitty race science.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I think it was like, how do you get from my mom stuck as a positive area of my ass to white nationalists?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's also so hot, you know, that's how you can get away with those kinds of opinions.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: The most shallow, bold Canadian who ever lived.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's just like a classic libertarian thing too.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's like, everybody's like, I tell you what to do, where do they take right?
[SPEAKER_09]: You're anti-dio-reab medicine.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you don't need a license to drive a car.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I need the government telling me, like, what kind of stuff I could put in my milk?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's true.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is what Joey is.
[SPEAKER_10]: In the scene after Joey is like, you know, hey, stop trying to get raped all the time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Joan is like shocked by what she's just heard.
[SPEAKER_10]: And Peggy comes in to her office.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think to use it as like a through way because like, she, Joan has his weird office set up where people use her offices as a shortcut.
[SPEAKER_10]: In that moment she just she tells Peggy, you know what you could use you could use the extra steps Basically calls her fat right after and I was like I loved Peggy's reaction to was like, okay, so clearly he said something really fucked up So I'm just gonna be like
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, sorry by hurt people hurt people that's right and when she comes home to see Greg off Greg by the way leaving for basic training also is a rapist who raped Joan, so that comment hurt extra So Greg told us tells her that she can just talk to her friends at work, it's okay and then she breaks down crying because she realizes she hates work and everybody there
[SPEAKER_10]: Later we see Dawn wanting to put Joey on another ad campaign and wanting him to be full time for a couple of weeks.
[SPEAKER_10]: And Joan is now starting to tell people, actually there've been a lot of complaints about him.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so maybe we should consider someone else when I think it's clear that the complaints are just her, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he also though is not good at his it's not very good at his job either that's like what struck me is so funny It's like yeah, I guess that's like the reality of like yes You have a budget and you're like I guess we'll just put the mediocre free-lancer on full-time for a few weeks even though like I'm jumping at it, but that moment when Don is when Don is like when Don goes a Perspective and narrative are you sure this was Joe?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's like one of the funniest things I've ever seen on the show.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, yes
[SPEAKER_10]: yeah no he's not he's not it particularly good but he's one of those guys who you can tell gets by on sort of uh mediocre talent and likability like he's a guys guy like everyone in the office likes him and also i think he gets by because there's always one
[SPEAKER_10]: powerful gay in the office who is trying to hit on him.
[SPEAKER_10]: And in this particular scenario, it's not even a gay guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just hairy.
[SPEAKER_10]: Harry is not actually gay.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's only gay for Hollywood advancement.
[SPEAKER_09]: And so imagining himself, he's like, man, if I was handsome like Joey, you'd think of all the things I could do.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: And instead, I keep having to buy Spanish fly.
[SPEAKER_10]: But he has this great scene with Joey in which he's like, basically, just call him hot the whole time.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Handsome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I showed him a picture.
[SPEAKER_00]: How'd you get a picture?
[SPEAKER_00]: I said one of those Polars from the Christmas party to Bernie Kowalski.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just see his like straight up admitting to him that is like, I stole pictures of you to send Cassiadans because I was like, wow, look at this guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, and then that's when Peggy catches up to him and says, hey, maybe stop fucking with Joan so much and it's funny because you see in that scene He's like, okay, okay, message received he he seems adult at that moment where he's like, okay, I understand maybe I'm like going too far so you kind of
[SPEAKER_10]: for a moment, think that maybe he's like, maybe he's not a piece of shit, maybe it's just like, he just, you know, it's the 60s, sometimes you say that to women, and also it's, I like it because it points out that, yeah, for sure, someone like Joey, or any man in the 60s who works in an office in New York, they all are like,
[SPEAKER_10]: clueless about how insanely sound when they are talking about women like well jolly is being reamed out by john uh stan is pressing his ass his bear right up against uh the window of uh john's office right yeah they have like no gauge for seriousness uh uh uh it's to like what they're saying or how seriously to take any woman at the office and it's clear that
[SPEAKER_10]: Peggy occupies this very narrow, rare lane of being like a cool girl who can handle it, and that is not going to last.
[SPEAKER_10]: So Joey and the other creatives are trying to make Mountain Dew cocktails, and then Joan is talking to Lane about how the vending machine sucks and Lane likes productivity, but Joan says it's just going to make all the
[SPEAKER_10]: um, while they're in the office together, Joey is draws a picture of Joan going down on Lane and posts it in Joan's office, which was like, it was one thing to like draw the picture.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was another thing entirely to then, like, put it in the office too.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like that.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's not how funny pictures work dude.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's supposed to like show the insulted person.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's supposed to snicker about it behind their back.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was like kind of the most insane part of it because I was just like snitch tagged himself.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And meanwhile, you know, he's not admitting to it.
[SPEAKER_10]: And fucking Joan goes off on them in such a fucking beautiful way.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is probably my favorite scene.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't wait until next year when all of you are in Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_05]: You won't be pining for the day when someone was trying to make your life easier.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when you're over there, and you're in the jungle, and they're shooting at you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Remember, you're not dying for me because I never liked you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Jesus, damn dog.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was, that is a pretty great.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's a pretty great little telling off to the United things.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then, you know, after that Peggy
[SPEAKER_10]: You know shocked that because Peggy's told him multiple times like hey stop fucker one of their and also please don't draw that picture That's not nice And then especially don't post it goes in the dawn's office and says like you know We should you know do something about this and Don is just
[SPEAKER_10]: straight up tells her you can fire people you know like like I don't I don't need to be involved in this sounds like you hate this guy and sounds like he sucks I don't care you do it yourself and I I enjoy that scene as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also the, like, good advice of, like, look, you don't want me to get involved because then you're undermining yourself if you do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just go deal with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you have that authority.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not my secretary anymore.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: And, and it's something that I think,
[SPEAKER_10]: Joan brings up, you know, coming from like another angle of that, which was like, okay, you know, you firing Joey now makes me look like a fucking asshole and yeah, it was, it was, it was interesting because it's the office politics of who's a big shot kind of like come out in that moment, but I, I, I, I like the way that, uh,
[SPEAKER_10]: What, you know Vince, why don't you talk for a little bit fucking asshole?
[SPEAKER_10]: I would love it if you talked.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_07]: You think I want to talk the whole time?
[SPEAKER_07]: I get the fucking you talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: go on water slides in an hour and a half.
[SPEAKER_03]: You think I want to be wasting my energy talking about some show?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care!
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about it!
[SPEAKER_10]: The events... Why don't you talk about the scene in which Peggy fires them?
[SPEAKER_11]: I was wondering where you were going with that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I wasn't going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_11]: I just talked till the show's over.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you edit you edit the audio man?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I do not edit the audio.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the most chilling things is when you put the audio into the timeline and you just see the long interrupted stretches.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been human talking.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's really a good thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I get mad at Vince.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because it's like your panic when you talk and you panic when you at least for me like I panic when they're when when I'm not talking and I panic Also when I'm talking for too long, there's no like there's no perfect there's no Goldilocks ratio there
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right, so you just kind of keep going.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so she fires his ass.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's like, all right, I didn't know I could fire people.
[SPEAKER_09]: So she fires his ass and she thinks she's doing a solid for all woman kind and Jones like, no, I hate you, you fat bitch, go back to Brooklyn.
[SPEAKER_10]: I got the scene where she was where she fires him.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if we're dawn on this knees?
[SPEAKER_06]: See, this is why I don't like working with women.
[SPEAKER_06]: You have no sense of humor.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're fired.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, all right.
[SPEAKER_06]: I see the nostrils are flair.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll go apologize.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: Get your thanks.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you serious?
[SPEAKER_04]: I am.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll see what Donis is saying about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don doesn't even know who you are.
[SPEAKER_06]: Damn.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I was wrong about you.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was great because he gave him like four chances to like stop being misogynistic and everything he said somehow made it worse is like, oh, well, I guess it's just another example of chicks being annoying.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, oh, I see that you're mad.
[SPEAKER_09]: I see that you're on your period.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I guess I better back down.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had the experience of being on the freeway and seeing like being like, oh, I'll get off to get a gas at the next exit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll get off to get gas at the next exit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like next gas 400 miles, you're like, oh, God.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, all right, maybe maybe I should.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's great because that's like the moment.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's funny.
[SPEAKER_10]: He pulls like a little bit of a Willie Loman, but like, like, if a cool hot guy did it.
[SPEAKER_10]: because he's a little bit cool or he's definitely cool.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think we can all agree with that.
[SPEAKER_10]: You heard the things he says to bitches.
[SPEAKER_10]: He, like, I would cause in death of a salesman, he's like, oh, I just maybe I could not work the road so much and just they hid, sell things here.
[SPEAKER_10]: And the guy's like, or I could fire you right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, them of I don't go on the road.
[SPEAKER_10]: I like,
[SPEAKER_10]: like this moment where he's just like all right i could see your man you fired me so i'm gonna go apologize and not realizing that she is dead serious and is not gonna be able to fucking wiggle his way out of it so great
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he's going to go have to sell his ass.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Bernie Coalski.
[SPEAKER_03]: I death of a salesman does end with the salesman dying in 9.11, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that Robert Pattinson movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sixty-three of the world traits and everything's coming up, Willie.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh no!
[SPEAKER_11]: That's so great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, everybody, everybody in unison saying, oh no, right before the blan hits the tower.
[SPEAKER_09]: The whole building.
[SPEAKER_09]: Wow, the planes look so close from up here.
[SPEAKER_09]: Boy, these execs have a great.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And, uh, oh, is that Brent Flyberg?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, hi.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now we're Joey at Drullo picture of Matt and Vince.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can decide who to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_10]: I can't it's blurs out sometimes.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm gonna have to look.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm gonna look at that picture very closely, but for now Everyone stick around listen these ads don't join the CIA and we'll be right back And we're back.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's mad yourself a man here with Will well then how you doing well?
[SPEAKER_10]: Good.
[SPEAKER_10]: You don't go up?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, is this part two, or are they listening to this separately?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because, you know, it's like, I know there was an ad break, but you're talking to me as if it's like the next week.
[SPEAKER_10]: It does sound, I do realize I do that, but yeah, I like to think that.
[SPEAKER_10]: people when they're listening, you know, they like temporally.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're like, okay, just listen to two minutes of advertising and tell me to join the CIA.
[SPEAKER_10]: I come back to ask, will, hey, having just listen to two minutes of CIA ads, how are you doing with that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just like, um, I don't know how much could have changed in my life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially since we've all been sitting here, nothing can get another talking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing can have changed.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think I think your ancestors were surrounded by really like literal people because they're like, oh, what does this guy do?
[SPEAKER_09]: Like other places they would have been like, uh, we'll call him Smith.
[SPEAKER_09]: But for you, for you, they were like, uh, he's, he's, what's that guy doing?
[SPEAKER_09]: He's welding.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's, uh, that's Bob.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's always welding.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's, you know, so that's what we do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we got our last name's very late in human civilization.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was actually they changed it at Ellis Island.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was electric welder.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it was originally what it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, our family came into existence very late.
[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't have, we were all first names until like 1972 or something like that.
[SPEAKER_09]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But still came through Ellis Island for whatever reason.
[SPEAKER_09]: They just, it was the scenic route, big backlog, big backlog.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I was on a princess cruise that crashed into the Statue of Liberty.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, Dawn's storyline throughout, we see him really trying not to have a drink.
[SPEAKER_10]: It misplaced.
[SPEAKER_10]: Trying to figure out which babe he wants to screw.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's surprisingly tough for him.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, honestly, it must be hard to be.
[SPEAKER_10]: that fuckable especially since like he's also like not drinking now or he's drinking less so now his dick is like fucking fully working and he's just like we want to you lucky ladies he's gonna get the nibble on it which when he wants to go full mast I forgot who Bethany Van Eyes was in between the time
[SPEAKER_09]: Like, in between when Don tells Ida blank and chip to get Bethany Van Eyes on the phone and him going on the date, I forgot that that was her name.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that sounds like such a great porn star name, like Bethany Van Eyes.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's an unfortunate last name to have because of where the porn industry ended up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Mostly coming out of this thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm my name is Tricksie San Fernando Valley and I'm actually an accountant who weirdly enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, my name is Jessica back of a large vein.
[SPEAKER_09]: Bethany Van Nye's get proud by Carl and Sino.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: My name is Roxanne.
[SPEAKER_10]: We could do this forever, you guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Judy Mangbuss.
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you?
[SPEAKER_10]: Roxanne Brazers.
[SPEAKER_10]: Anyways.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Ms. Blaine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my name is Trisha, a feminist porn angle.
[SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: My name is Donatella Stuckin windowsill.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stuckin windowsill.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more familiar with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: As a joke, is the drier thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did Stuckin windowsill sounds way more dangerous.
[SPEAKER_10]: We know Stuckin all kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, Stuckin looking for something under the bed.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's a lot of things you get stuck in.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, guys I'll just be castrated at birth for God's sake.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is this is bad timing But I have to use a bathroom really bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, but you promise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be right to me.
[SPEAKER_09]: Go get stuck in a toilet That's like less.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that that works as well getting stuck in the toilet assuming you're using it normally Yeah, I mean I do remember seeing one.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think it was like Rocco Sifreddy where he's like
[SPEAKER_09]: plowing a chicken and then pushing your head into the toilet, which I thought was like a unnecessary.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like, I had a, I had a friend in college who would be like, look at this funny porno and we'd all be like, you're probably watching too much porn if you're like, I've got my comedy porn as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a different set of bookmarks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've got my comedy porn, my action adventure porn, I've got the porn for jerking off to that stuff I'm a little embarrassed about.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's something that horrifies me.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's something that I want when I want to be scared when I want to be horny when I want to laugh If for your for your next show have you guys considered doing the mgm plus series from From as a FROM FROM.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not from not like David from no, no, no, no, no, no, I haven't even heard of this.
[SPEAKER_09]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, um, people show up.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just suddenly trapped in this spooky town.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there are like monsters in the woods that want to kill them, but they can only come inside if they're let inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're not vampires.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't leave this town.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once you show up in this town, you can't leave this town.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just like stuck there.
[SPEAKER_09]: So it's like a hotel California situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, except even more annoying.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I, I, my wife started watching it for some reason, but it's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, everybody who's watched it, likes it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But everybody who hasn't watched it and sees the ad, they're like, is this like a joke?
[SPEAKER_03]: With this, this is just from on MJM+.
[SPEAKER_09]: Show me a shows now that I just like, I don't know, I don't even, I, I, I turn on the streaming box that I'm like, what the fuck show are we watching?
[SPEAKER_09]: And then I don't remember and watching something bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: look, I think from is great, you know, and you guys can have a lot to have from yourself of from, you know, you can have lots of fun with the title.
[SPEAKER_03]: And for sure, your listenership will go way up, because that show is real popular.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I feel like you never know what is going to hit online, and then, like, you realize that there's like a million people that are watching fucking trader.
[SPEAKER_09]: I have never seen traders, but like, everything online is like, traders, traders, traders.
[SPEAKER_09]: I still don't know what it is, but.
[SPEAKER_09]: Apparently people are watching it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_09]: How do you don't know you don't I just find if you haven't watched it.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I know what it is sort of now.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know that Alan coming so sit at some sort of reality show, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just like where we'll for Mafia, essentially.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody picks somebody.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody at the end, they'll go, you're the traitor and then they reveal if they were one of the traitors or not.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, I don't, yeah, that's, I feel like that's not an obvious enough conceit for reality show for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they, they judge it up, you're also competing for money and the people who win, like split the money up, but it also is now they're all celebrity additions.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, they want the money, but for you, you're just like, yeah, but,
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about their fiscal situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like rooting for whoever and they're also weird alliances Like it'll they'll be like like women from a housewives franchise.
[SPEAKER_03]: They'll be like housewives don't vote out housewives It's like why are they making these arbitrary things but like they do and they take them very serious I think I've never watched the library there.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I don't understand the whole like alliance building thing either I don't want
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a sensation, Vince.
[SPEAKER_03]: You missed out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you heard Survivor was a big deal though.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a big deal.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like I made Donald, he created the myth of Donald Trump sort of.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The EP you mean, Burnett.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys could serve yourself a Viver.
[SPEAKER_03]: there you go there's another one and now unlike my my joking picture from people people listen to podcasts about I know I know there's probably 10 of them are ready yeah for sure oh yeah but there wasn't of the subronos
[SPEAKER_03]: I do love your guys approach it being like we're gonna cover shows way after yeah yeah yeah that's the thing that's the best way to do it in my opinion people might rewatch them yeah i remember at the after the first episode of uh... uh... uh... fuck with of uh... west world somebody posted a screen cap of all the west world recap podcasts yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was what the the pie after the pilot air, they were like dozens of them already being posted.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love that because they all had to keep watching that bullshit that sucks, yeah, um, okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: So Mrs. Blankenship has had cataract surgery.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right?
[SPEAKER_10]: She is holding four giant bottles of liquor because she knows that ton is going to drink them.
[SPEAKER_10]: I...
[SPEAKER_10]: I know I've sent this before, but I'll say it again.
[SPEAKER_10]: I fucking love her.
[SPEAKER_09]: This might be her best episode thus far, and there's been a lot of strong eye to Plankenship.
[SPEAKER_10]: She is so funny in this.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love this right here.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not a cigarettes.
[SPEAKER_11]: I've got your liquor.
[SPEAKER_11]: I only have two hands.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm set and then you're not I just like she's she's so content about she's right you know because she's like look I know who you are you're an alcohol I like I like the other scene too or dawn's like how is your surgery and she's like oh there was a waking nightmare so you're good though right
[SPEAKER_09]: It's like immediately, like didn't, it didn't take that in at all, he's like, okay, well, it's over now, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: I feel like what he took from it was no matter what I asked, she's going to complain as if she's being murdered.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm just going to be like, Look for what he took from it was I want her to stop talking.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, it's so funny, and yeah, and like beyond that in that same scene She's like she's like oh, yeah, your wife called it's like that's not she's not my wife anymore He's like anyways, she called and the you have a two-year-old birthday party.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, yes I need to get Jean a present and it's like is he or she going to be the end like she
[SPEAKER_10]: has no idea about his family and it's so wonderful, but yeah Dawn spends most of this episode narrating his stupid ass fucking journal.
[SPEAKER_10]: I do like that while he's drinking exactly one beer.
[SPEAKER_10]: He is basically gets self-conscious and he goes like, I'm writing how my day went like a girl.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was very funny.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's watching news about Vietnam on TV, which then gets him to start thinking about how his son Jean was conceived in a moment of desperation and born into a mess.
[SPEAKER_10]: and all I could think was Don Draper is writing this as if those two things are connected.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, you know, Jean is very much like Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: In that tea.
[SPEAKER_10]: This child is turning into a bit of a clagmire.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: This child makes me want to, uh, carpet bomb Cambodia.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, but yeah, it is, I just, I love, I love Don.
[SPEAKER_10]: doing the narration in this episode because it's so it's so overwritten and it's it's you just get deep insight into what kind of person he wants to project to be to everyone else and it's it's so funny he's like talking about a list of things he wants to you know I want to climb Mount Kilimanjaro and or just go to Africa
[SPEAKER_03]: I love general.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or just go to anywhere in Africa.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's good to have.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's good to have specific goals.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, specific and broad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are all fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I'd love to go, I'd love to go to Egypt or perhaps South Africa.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hear they're close to each other.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you know, I'll take a train from one to the other.
[SPEAKER_10]: Me and while Betty and Henry are having their, um, you know, storyline going on, it's simultaneously for her.
[SPEAKER_10]: following Henry as he's taking a meeting with some politics guy and it turns out that Don is at the same restaurant on a date with Mrs. Bethany Van Nights, who is an extra in the opera and I like that all the all the young chicks that Don likes have weird weird orthodonture issues.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I had noticed that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Bethany's got the weird sort of mouth thing and then there was the Stephanie.
[SPEAKER_09]: Not as weird as Stephanie did, but yeah, which one was Stephanie again?
[SPEAKER_09]: The Anna Anna's net niece.
[SPEAKER_10]: And oh, yeah, yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, she had 60's teeth.
[SPEAKER_10]: I feel like Bethany, I haven't noticed her teeth at all.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, I feel like those are weird 2000's.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, those are 2000's teeth.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I don't think they have that much that many like braces and like those Megan also has teeth.
[SPEAKER_10]: Megan has a big gap, doesn't she?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but she has the she is like the the unorthodontured and it's kind of like her thing and she makes it makes it kind of hot.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, okay, I got you in my opinion, but I see where you're saying you're saying Bethany has perfectly shaped teeth
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I feel like there's a, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what do you think about it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just, I'm just sort of mulling over the phrase.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she has a gap in her teeth and she, she makes it work.
[SPEAKER_03]: She makes it sexy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's kind of like, wow, well, you know, what she specifically doing to the gap in her teeth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, uh, she's making me imagine things will.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, every time you look at her, she's like shoving like a dime.
[SPEAKER_03]: She would or something like baby.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could not just change in there.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think if the advent of like bad veneers have taught us anything, it's that teeth that have a little bit of character are generally like more We're all attractive now.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, generally more attractive than like weirdly uniform ones Yeah, at a certain point you'd like a person to look like a person.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I Had braces, so I'm like, you know, I'm talking to you on myself a little bit here It'll be fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's just normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just straightening out your teeth like right and that and like crooked teeth can cause like headaches and stuff
[SPEAKER_10]: your teeth shaved down and then had something added to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've made jokes about it, but like a Freddie what's his face on the Dodgers?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like his veneers are crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Freddie Freeman mess.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, you look and you're like, you're 37 years old.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no way you haven't had like a cup of coffee or tea in your lifetime, and which would result in your teeth not being so brilliantly white.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all look like the basket.
[SPEAKER_10]: And beyond that, you know what they all look like?
[SPEAKER_10]: Somebody stop my dental surgery.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: They also look like, remember in, like, something about Mary?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like Matt, Dylan, uh, he overhears something he thinks that she likes having, uh, she likes men with capped teeth.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he gets comically,
[SPEAKER_10]: Comically capped like vineyards.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, essentially.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now everyone has that unironically.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they look like that now They all look like that and everyone's like no, but I like it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's very weird Anyways Bethany anyways, I would say if you're insecure about any part of your appearance You deserve to be it should be more so I think that's the lesson to take that in the lesson That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you're feeling weird about your teeth Good
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and if you try to fix them, we'll still make folks.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, no matter that we hate you.
[SPEAKER_10]: You can get roasted forever.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so she's asking questions like, are you a Felix or an Oscar, which is like an odd couple reference, and then she's like, hey,
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so funny because when she said that in my head I heard like, hey, are you a straight or are you clearly a homosexual?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just not saying it out loud.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: It also feels like she's asking him the stock questions like they were on OK Cupid, where, you know, we like through someone's profile or something.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're the one treating this like a first date.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, but also I think it is coming from a place of her being like,
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know how to get this guy to talk.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, what is your deal?
[SPEAKER_10]: Are you in F.J. or an IN?
[SPEAKER_10]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: S. TMJ.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, nice to meet you.
[SPEAKER_10]: TMJ.
[SPEAKER_10]: She sees Betty at the restaurant and Betty is so hot that she is like, oh.
[SPEAKER_10]: I need to go down on Don.
[SPEAKER_10]: So finally for the first time he gets some quote, I would never put it that way, but he does you'd say you say he gets all up in them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go.
[SPEAKER_03]: He gets all up in them guts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which would not be true.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but he does.
[SPEAKER_09]: She slimes that bazooka.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's what I put into that glove-cluck action in the back of a taxi cab, uh, getting sucked off in the back of a taxi is fucking even even by today standards.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I would say in a, yeah, it's inappropriate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Certainly.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I all I can think of is like the cab driver who's just like guys.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm a person here.
[SPEAKER_10]: I turned to the meter off.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, this is insane.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so yeah, so she gives I have to clean slobber and come off of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have been I got divorced when I was like 27 and even at the peak of my post divorce madness I would have been like hey, you can't suck me off in the bag.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, this is this is not the acceptable.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a lift
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I can rub it a little and give me excited about the sucking off.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting later, but this you know, there are so many options that don't involve, yes, like, and if you're going to start doing that in my brain, I'm going to be like, I have to come as fast as possible, and then it's going to take forever, let's just not do this, so yeah, exactly, yeah, for me, I couldn't it's like,
[SPEAKER_03]: this is useless because there's no way I'm going to be able to come and it's bad enough it's bad enough this happening it's even worse that the driver's going to watch me fail to get an erection because I'm so self-conscious about this happening in the bag of a cab yeah you're going to you're going to lean up too fast and I'm going to squirt globs in the back of this small thing guy
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, all right, we hate it.
[SPEAKER_10]: He was just having fun.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, you know, why did why do we always have to go there?
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, that's that's Mr. Manzini doesn't talk for a long stretches time and then it's like what if you came on a Somalia and got We're trying to do a podcast here Uncoup.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uncoup.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm like.
[SPEAKER_10]: I told you I was a Joey.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: You are.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm I'm more of a
[SPEAKER_10]: Fuck, I don't remember anyone else from Chandler Chandler.
[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_10]: You don't remember anyone else from France.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just said blip the hell guys I'm really excited about going to college.
[SPEAKER_10]: I would just talk about I just have a great will-fludge I told I want to do So she gives him a blowjob doesn't finish.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think he doesn't come because she says to be continued
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he looks pretty happy when he gets out of there.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can tell he can't buy his face.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a little boy, the way he's like, like miles up against the window and he's just happy to, uh, so does that mean she swallows?
[SPEAKER_10]: for her.
[SPEAKER_10]: So she leaves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so I'm the only decent man on this entire call.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what I'm learning.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're the only good guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's narrating, doing it again.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's just like, you know, oh, I bet she thought of that line all night.
[SPEAKER_10]: Unlike me who's really good at thinking of lines.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here's the next one.
[SPEAKER_10]: I look to sleep like a starfish.
[SPEAKER_10]: Imagine I am guy who was on a parachute guy and that's what I like sleep alone good like you know He's very smart actually.
[SPEAKER_09]: I like sleeping alone on a like sleeping in a in a small apartment Very far from my family.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm actually super into loneliness
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, when he cracks open that can of Dinti Moore, yeah, I like my dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like gagged watching him dump that into a bull.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was disgusting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cold can stew.
[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't even warm it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: And do we get to the scene where Betty's friend is like, what did she say about Don when she's like, my husband calls him the sad man.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a that sad man.
[SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, we'll just call him Dinti Moore.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's coming up right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: So meanwhile, Betty and Henry are fighting, because she spent the rest of the date in the bathroom and then complaining about seeing Dawn.
[SPEAKER_10]: Dawn is still letting them live in the house that he paid for.
[SPEAKER_10]: and, um, oh, men's rights man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, first of all, unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and I got to pay child support for some kid, my wife, let me see.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: She won't even let me raise it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and welcome to Mad Yourself, a man, a podcast about how we hate the family courts.
[SPEAKER_10]: Mad yourself, a men's rights activist, so Henry wants to sever the relationship completely between her and Dawn, so calls him up and says, hey, I'm buying a boat, and I need you to move your shit out of the garage, and it's also a way to get him to not go to the Gene's second birthday party on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's also a way to mock him where he's like, yeah, actually my life is going so well.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm buying a boat.
[SPEAKER_09]: I might even start like a t-shirt business and open a restaurant.
[SPEAKER_09]: Think you're going pretty well for me over here.
[SPEAKER_09]: So you got to come and clean your stuff out of my wife's garage.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Bethany, but sorry, you skipped over the part where Henry and Henry and Betty are fighting in the car, and you know, Henry is understandably like annoyed I think by Betty like being so up and out of shape by seeing her ex-husband and she says, I hate him and he says, you hate him.
[SPEAKER_09]: I hate Nazis.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a strong word, Betty.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're out here hating your ex.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm out here hating Nazis.
[SPEAKER_10]: We are not the same.
[SPEAKER_10]: I actually hate injustice.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Things of this nature.
[SPEAKER_10]: Things I hate evil.
[SPEAKER_09]: I hate bad things happening to good people.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's a Muslim.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_10]: Bad dogs.
[SPEAKER_10]: So Francine, who's Betty's friend, says, you know, why do you hate him so much?
[SPEAKER_10]: Am I husband describes him as that sad man?
[SPEAKER_10]: And Betty is like, oh, it's all an act which is so funny and like it's a really good, um, I don't know, inside into the character because she truly,
[SPEAKER_10]: looks at dawn and believes the performance and that's always been Betty's problem with dawn is is that like she takes him at face value so I also think it's no ability to look at him and go like no he's a sad guy you know I also think it's like a waspy thing and it's sort of that like.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's sort of that elitist failure of empathy where it's like, oh, you know they're only homeless because they like, they like it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like they're just like, like anytime something bad happens to people.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was like, ah, you could probably brought it on themselves.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, and she has to kind of make a choice about like how much to invest in hating this guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I don't know what makes her change.
[SPEAKER_10]: But at some point, you know, at the very end, the last scene you see is Don does show up on the Sunday of James 2nd birthday party and she, you know, let's him, you know, Henry's all mad.
[SPEAKER_10]: Where's he doing here and Betty is like, you know, whatever, just it's fine and says it turns to Henry and says we have everything.
[SPEAKER_10]: Which is I mean it's like it's a great line because I think she means it in that moment I just don't know if what what made her change her mind did you have any theories on that Vince
[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe it was just Francine talking her out of it and you know, and she's like, well, I guess I could be, I could still be with the husband who like broke my arm a few weeks ago, like Francine.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Instead, I'm divorced, and I have this, you know, I have this new handsome politician husband who treats me pretty well, all things considered.
[SPEAKER_10]: right yeah so she has a change of heart and you know maybe hates him a little bit less in that moment meanwhile dawn says goodbye Bethany because we are never going to see her again and hello doctor Miller
[SPEAKER_10]: Dr. Miller is arguing with what's clearly like a boyfriend or whatever on the phone.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he don takes that moment to ask her out on a date.
[SPEAKER_10]: They go out on a date and finally they make out.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just don't know what it is about this actress, but she's the most beautiful woman in the world.
[SPEAKER_10]: And sometimes, like, I don't like stranger things, but when she's on it, I'm like, more her please.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm touched.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was overdoing the Italian a little bit in this episode.
[SPEAKER_10]: She's supposed to be Italian.
[SPEAKER_09]: I thought she was like Carla Wono or something like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Her name is Fay Miller.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's a mother in real life.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: But in the episode too, she's like, you know, she's got the, she's got the New Yorkie accent.
[SPEAKER_09]: And she's talking about her dad's like mobbed up.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: But I figured it was like, but it was like, I thought figure's like a juice.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like she was part of the like the Jewish mafia.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: Those are some tough Jews.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, when I hear the last day Miller, and I think what kind of ethnic white are you?
[SPEAKER_10]: I think probably Jewish, but who knows?
[SPEAKER_09]: When I look at her face and hear her voice, I think Italian.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: Doesn't matter to me.
[SPEAKER_10]: Nothing matters to me.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just look at her and I go, she's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing matters to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: My wife?
[SPEAKER_10]: My daughter?
[SPEAKER_10]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about any of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm horrifically depressed at the moment.
[SPEAKER_10]: Everything feels the same.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's a greatness to my life.
[SPEAKER_10]: Which is why I'm excited about going to the Great Wolf Lodge and going down, down, down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sounds like Matt's going to gun himself a mouth.
[SPEAKER_10]: Something has it done.
[SPEAKER_09]: uh... and that's the episode uh... favorite scene leaves favorite scene or something we didn't talk about vans we talked about it but uh... i'd a blanket ship not knowing the gender of dawn's child just yet nailed me heart also a one thing that we didn't talk about is like at one point we're done like zones out the the group they're in the they're in the the main room or whatever
[SPEAKER_09]: And they're talking about eye-to-planking ship and Kenny starts, you know, my uncle was blind and then he says like he had syphilis and then like Dawn like Zones out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Turned into the teacher from Charlie Brown.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: That was like a great kicker for his greatest.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, that was great.
[SPEAKER_10]: Wilwell done a favorite scene at least.
[SPEAKER_10]: Favorite scene or something we didn't talk about that we definitely want to talk about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that same scene, Donna, after the, as they're leaving, Don tells Peggy to send Ray Charles in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe this, how he refers to him.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that was awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a blank ship and also the part Vince was talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also love, I don't know that it's ever been done before on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they do the thing where you like rack in and pull out on Don.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it like zooms in on him and the back, the, you zoom in on the foreground and the background drops away.
[SPEAKER_03]: and just watching that happen is like oh it's like in a horror movie but the horror is just a man contemplating this glass of liquor in his house.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just been being like 20 minutes till I get to have next drink.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's like it's like getting get out when he's being hypnotized.
[SPEAKER_03]: Except the hypnotism is yeah just alcohol is a love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Him being like how many how many seconds would a normal human weight in between ships?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's the you can see him doing that kind of normal people drink this slow.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah What am I supposed to do in the mean time?
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know what to do with my hands If I had to give this episode a letter grade and I do you know what?
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm giving her to be plus Vince What would you give this episode?
[SPEAKER_09]: I agree with you, but I think it's more of a solid be plus.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh Okay, all right shocker and we'll weld in if you had to give this episode a letter grade.
[SPEAKER_10]: What would you give it?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just want to say I find these kinds of bits annoying of just like we always give it the same thing the act like we don't and that's why I would give this episode in a minus minus which of course would make it a B plus one guys were at B plus B plus B plus
[SPEAKER_10]: that's a reply all reference.
[SPEAKER_10]: And that is a B plus episode of Madman and an A plus episode of Mad yourself a man.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, well then, thank you so much for coming on and talking about Mad Ben with us.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, thanks for having me and thanks for having me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where can people find you and listen to you?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll be performing at Bohemian Grove in a couple weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey,
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's all old man Weldon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll have the link in the description.
[SPEAKER_03]: If I'm on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: If I'm on it, it's old man Weldon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope not also my Venmo.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's also not the user name I use for any of my banking stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So don't even try.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, and then I also have a podcast called I hate Bill Marr.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you about how much I hate Bill.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's really good.
[SPEAKER_10]: You should listen.
[SPEAKER_10]: I hate Bill Marr.
[SPEAKER_10]: The description will include links to both his social media and I hate Bill Marr.
[SPEAKER_10]: I wonder.
[SPEAKER_10]: Is that a pro or anti-Bill Marr podcast?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, can I come out in the middle?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I should just like Bill Marr himself.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, thank you again for coming on.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Prep school name to soft approval?
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[SPEAKER_09]: Two more left, we have David Rossi.
[SPEAKER_09]: Rossi, this guy's the Razi.
[SPEAKER_09]: We call this guy the bomb, because he's been honored.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, the Razi, yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, and the Razi Barry for worlds worst, are seen like from irreversible.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We're not dating.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, so anyway, definitely leave that in.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Brent double that, please.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, gain a match.
[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.