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[SPEAKER_01]: Jiam is got the stories from the coast to countryside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeannie's got the questions sharp as the nitrous sway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's day and night we take you all the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: From the back streets to tin so town to the notorious globe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Old Hollywood meets my futile And you're about to know It's the Hollywood Godfather Where the big band plays and the stories don't stop With Gianni and Gini everywhere They're taking you to the top Keep it smooth and keep it classy Feel that swing, non-stop

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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's time for another Hollywood Godfather podcast.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And tonight revisiting us is one of, I mean, every time I do research on this guy, I just keep finding more things about them, more things about them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And let me introduce Jeannie Raymond, our co-host first.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Could you give me my idea?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Hello, hello.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm so excited to have you back.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks for coming back all the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you, Jeannie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks so much, too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Federico has to do, I'll throw you to the do, let's introduce Federico Castaluciano, where is the proposal from?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because he does the butcher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Castaluciano, that's perfect.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Is that it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Perfect, though.

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[SPEAKER_04]: See, see, see, see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My grandma is going to be rolling over in a grave, because she's from Naples.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When I was she's been rolling over, so I'd say we made a

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[SPEAKER_04]: For the first six years of my life, all I listened to was Enrico Caruso, because she lived in my grandmother's family, and from the family to enables.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's, well, I was actually born in the city of enables.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people say that from Napoli, they had born in a, that a lot of them are from, like, the outskirts they got, I've had leaders.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you guys hearing me well?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, all right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So tell us where you were born?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was actually born in Napoli, and Naples, proper, and right in the city.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of people say that from Naples, but they're actually from the outskirts.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was born in a street called Salita Minatois.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it was near the museum to now, the National M.Vart.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I...

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[SPEAKER_05]: basically I came here with my family in 1968, you know, I was like three and a half years old around that time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and have you gone back recently?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've gone back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, go back off and actually, sometimes I work there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love working there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, you know, I've gone back over the years, many, many times.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And what they'll actually, I should say, the first time I actually went back after many years was when we shot the sopranos there, when we shot, when they actually find my character in Napoli.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow, that's funny.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's wild.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I also found out recently that you didn't start your career in the sopranos.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was NYU PD Blue.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, actually, I started off way before my P.D.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Bluest.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But before sopranos, I was knocking around as an actor in New York City for about 10, 12 years.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I started off in theater.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I did regional productions, Shakespeare festivals, I'm talking about the original place.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was referring to television series.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, television.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I started off in all the soaps.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like everybody did, you know, pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We had, yeah, guiding light as the world turns another world, all of those, you know, but just day players.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was just doing like day players.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I do want to kind of get stuck in that world, you know?

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I loved theater, that was my solid foundation as an actor, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that, you know, any young actor that always comes up to me and says, you know, what should I do?

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[SPEAKER_05]: What should I do?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I always tell them, I said, do you do theater?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And if they don't, I said, you really should, because that is a really true foundation for an actor.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You really get to understand the rehearsal process, which we don't have that luxury in television and film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that rehearsal process in creating a character kind of stays in your muscle membrane, you know, later on when you're doing a film and television.

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[SPEAKER_05]: At least that's what kind of worked with me, you know?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, how do you say that?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now I realize why my career didn't go any way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I never went to the theater.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean you've had an incredible career?

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[SPEAKER_05]: What are you crazy?

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm teasing, I'm teasing, I'm teasing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've always, all my life, I always look for the shortcuts, all fall the wrong reasons.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's funny man, hey, you know, when you grow up in the streets, I mean, I grew up in the streets of Patterson, New Jersey, it's kind of the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I always look for shortcuts, but there are no shortcuts when it comes to what we do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, you really got to put the work in.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So how long have you been doing?

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[SPEAKER_06]: your artwork because I looked at some just today while I was stalking you on your Instagram.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was checking out the charcoal pictures you did and they are phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh thank you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Like the guy you were speaking to, he said, I thought they were pictures, because they were completely beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that guy I was speaking to was actually Chass Palm Terrier.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Chass, actually I just finished one of Chass.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, did it really?

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[SPEAKER_05]: A portrait.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's the portrait.

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[SPEAKER_05]: he uh... he commissioned me to do a portrait of him uh... and uh... actually you know what maybe i can just show you real quick oh i think yes it's behind well it's it's behind up and can you see this at all oh my god yeah it's i have to kind of tilt it down and yeah i mean we got it yeah that's great i mean it's all charcoal you did that

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[SPEAKER_03]: unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It is incredible.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It is the other all the way to you come back, but what was that?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I said the other that I saw, I think was one of policemen?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's not.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Friend of mine Kevin Kevin Boykins is a New Jersey retired police officer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Those are

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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they are absolutely beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_06]: How long have you been, you probably out your life?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's how I started.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I started off as an artist as a painter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I studied formally right out of high school on full scholarship to the school of visual arts in New York City.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I studied illustration, media arts, and painting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Painting was the strongest part of it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because I always felt that came into this world as a painter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: visual artist.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so, you know, drawing and painting has been part of my life ever since I was a child.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they must have recognized it if they gave you a scholarship number one, your early trade.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was a hands-on exam, I remember, it was like, I think it was a 1500 students worldwide and they chose, I think, like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: six people for the scholarship that year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And they didn't have the scholarships every year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They would have them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They were sporadic.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It just just happened that that year, you know, I went in for a hands-on exam and then based on my portfolio, that's how I got in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What did you do come out?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Holy soprano and his wife as the Duke of Duchess.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that painting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know what, can I tell you how that, that's a really interesting story, how that came about.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was shooting the sopranos for the second time in Italy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And after we wrapped, I decided to stay a few more weeks and I went up to Florence because I had never been to the Uffizi galleries, all of the Uffizi museum.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I was walking through the galleries and then I come across this painting, this very famous painting that I've seen in history books for ages, by Pietro Delo Francesca, of Federico the Multofeltro and Batista's Forza, his wife.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and the feeling that I got was almost like Jim and Edie kind of looking at each other but passed each other, you know, and it kind of gave me an idea.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I said, wow, I got to do a painting one day of this because it was the fourth season, right, when my character leaves and it breaks them up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So if you look at it, it's two separate panels and it's sort of divided by the frame, you know, and so they're facing each other, you know, they're in profile facing each other,

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[SPEAKER_05]: but their gaze is going past each other, almost like they're done with each other, you know?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so what winds up happening, I'm on the plane going back home and I'm checking my messages from Italy around that time and TV Guide had reached out to me and they said that they had seen my artwork and they were, they wanted to commission me to do

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[SPEAKER_05]: painting of the entire cast for one of their, one of, you know, the, the, the covers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I call them up and I said, you know, I would, I would love to do that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But when do you need this by they said in a few weeks and I'm like, there's no way I could do it with my style.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's realism.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it takes a very long time, you know, to get the drawing down and then the paint it, I said, I have another idea.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I pitched them the idea of the Duke and Duchess of North Paul.

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[SPEAKER_05]: because the original title is the Duke and Duchess of Urbino, Italy, all right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I changed it to North Cornwell, obviously, because that's where they were from.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's, I mean, your creativity is amazing, actually.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You really have a career in that just by itself.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I actually been, man, I've been juggling to careers for, for, for, man, a very, very long time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Most of my life, actually, my adult life, I could say.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I probably should have, I have.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, I'm very fortunate, very, very, very fortunate to be able to do what I love to do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, express myself in these two forms of art, you know?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Is your wife in the business also?

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[SPEAKER_05]: She is, actually she is in, she just got back from Switzerland.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's doing a documentary on makeup.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the effects that it has on the human body and the positive and negative, you know, she's interviewing like scientists and, you know, people in our business, models, actors.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's been shooting it for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She just interviewed a scientist, you know, based on this particular subject.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but she's she's been an actor models and she was a child, uh, you know, uh, we, we, we, we, uh, we met after after a film that I didn't think was very good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, I thought it was horrible.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was called righteous killed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You remember that film?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I, I remember.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was, uh, Pachino and, uh, De Niro.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They were, they were so disconnected in that film was just not even funny, but anyway,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now I remember after what was that?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I said now I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember it right now As I said that right yeah, but anyway, yeah, so she is in the business absolutely Well, she's a pretty woman.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I met several times with you obviously and I thank you now But I absolutely adore her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's she's amazing in so many ways

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's not so important.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, today to find a great woman, it took me a hundred years, but almost 83.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's great.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and Doria is absolutely beautiful and so kind.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I adore her myself.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I love hearing that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You have to come for dinner over here, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Behind me, you see that, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just 16 when I'm moving the chair.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I was, I was, I had the privilege of staying here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've been here for 71 years now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And in 73 when Frank installed died, his lawyer called me, I went to New Office, he left it to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This place has things like a museum.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I can see it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can see the posters back there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's pretty wild.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's almost 3000 square feet in New York on 61st street.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's I'm getting a 3000 square feet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's like an entire home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, then is it's three bedrooms and the bathroom and bedrooms.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything of a huge you got to come.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to do a dinner.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love to love to, man.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll tell you Federico, order this spaghetti.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Bobby Vinton was on the show a week or so ago.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he said he went to Italy and couldn't get spaghetti and that Gianna's was the best spaghetti he's ever eaten.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it was so good to eat.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He went to Italy and couldn't find spaghetti.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And when you said, was he sure that he was in Italy?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the funny thing, that's why I'm laughing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She's telling you to have my spaghetti.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You were kind of sore.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, let's see, no, he don't know anything.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, hey, hey, him and his father said they used to come to Gianni's for dinner on Sundays and brag about the dinner, Gianni made.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you thought I'm pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're Polish.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What are they going to know about spaghetti anyway?

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's a good dinner, it's a good dinner.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's why.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So you are everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I saw on your Instagram.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You are all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You're as busy as Ciani from what I can see.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You're hitting all sorts of places, meeting people.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Good fellow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: With the scrannos.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's been, it's been, it's been kind of crazy lately.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we've done a lot of these appearances.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've completed four films in the recent past.

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[SPEAKER_05]: One of them is out already.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's called Don Q with Armanda Sante.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I like that kid.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Armanda is the best.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's a nice guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, such a nice guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Incredible gentleman.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's just a wonderful guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he called me before before we actually shot the film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He called me and said, I really want you to do this part in this film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, I said, can you send me a script?

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[SPEAKER_05]: He goes, okay, there was no script at the time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, I call him, is there a script that you got the script that didn't get it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: He goes, it goes, all right, we're almost finished with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, we did it a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_06]: What was the name of it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's called Don Cue.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Don Cue.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's loosely based on the donkey-hotte story, but modern day and little Italy with a guy that thinks he's a mob boss, but he's actually, you know, a little boss.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We said it at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it does have a lot of different things going as you're directing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you know, been directing for since 2006.

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[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, talking about the Palm and Terry's, John upon Terry's wife produced my very first film that I co-wrote and directed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I co-wrote it with a dear friend of mine who I grew up with, they went to Grammar School together and he was a budding writer at the time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, came up with the idea, you know, we wrote it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I directed it, she helped finance it through her contacts.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and produced it for us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it won a lot of awards.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was called Tracks of Color, based on a child prodigy, but he was an artist, but he did graffiti art, you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But she's an attractive woman also.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: John loves a beautiful woman.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We actually did a few films together as actors,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's why I'm saying the more I know and keep finding out about you, I mean, from the auto loan, I mean, to accomplish what you've done, and obviously still doing you, and still doing and recognized as an impressionist, it's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm actually a realist painter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I, you know,

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot that I would like to do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's just, you know, as you see, I love doing research.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is just part of my library.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I have an entire 16-foot wall of reference books and different times of books on art.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's another library in the other room.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is where I do all of this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My research is I've been counting century Italian masters and mainly at the 17th century some are you know renaissance as well some paintings and so It's a it's a period that I really kind of Zoned in and related to early on and Visually it just you know, I'm very attracted to that that style of painting and It inspires me I live with my art, you know

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I learned that any galleries that we should know they'd go see right now I'm working on a series of large charcoal drawings like the one that you saw that the chas is painting up you know after he you know goes to him I asked him if he would mind you know having it you know just like so I can have it back for the show and he said that's absolutely Well that was done in the malls

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's all charcoal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's all I use.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but it's a different technique than just taking the charcoal and dry.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I use charcoal pencils, charcoal sticks, erasers, all kinds of stuff, all kinds of different type of erasers in order to get these effects.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just techniques that I've learned over the years, you know, to get the most realistic, you know, result that I can.

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[SPEAKER_06]: How long is it take you to do one of those?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they take between, oh, man, it's a lot of, a lot of time, 20, 100 and 120, 130 hours.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, they're magnificent.

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[SPEAKER_06]: My goodness, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you can't, yeah, there's no shortcuts when it comes to that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was going to say, you know, there's different people on Instagram doing different kind of paintings.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I think yours would take,

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[SPEAKER_06]: a long long time to come together.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You'd have to fast time lapse or fast forward it because I know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's so their exquisite.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They are so beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So that's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I have sleep very little.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's put it that way.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Most of the time, I'm working on painting at night.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and drawing it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's where the phone doesn't ring.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just kind of listen to some music or, you know, the radio or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I just go to town, you know, working and I'm just focused, you know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's where you get that your happy place.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I would imagine where you can just be by yourself and like your imagination.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: One mile.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's very true.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's very true.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so you are working on something called the cabrini project.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Is that out?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's been that's been out and that was that was a wonderful film and

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[SPEAKER_05]: The actor, her name was, her name was Christiana de Lannna.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And she was on a series in Naples.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She was, you know, not put it pure enough, not put it down.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She was on a series, what was a series name?

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[SPEAKER_05]: There was a film, it'll come to me, but anyways, she was very popular for that particular.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And she was like a mob series in Naples.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then she winds up chewing and none.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a unique mob filming label.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Kind mother Capriini, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and Naples, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's unique, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But that was a really wonderful film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember reading the script and I thought it was just beautifully written, really talks about the amazing things that this one woman did for the Italian people here in America.

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[SPEAKER_05]: if you haven't seen the film, you really should.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's really a beautiful film.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Tell us the name of it again.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Cabrini.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's the name.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's the name.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Cabrini.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she was a nun.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, mother could bring a lot about her early on in life.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you know, there's hospitals named after her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's schools named after her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so it's, but I played, um,

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[SPEAKER_05]: In the 19th century, Italian senator, he was the head of the Senate in Italy at the time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Was he lead gentlemen?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess they're all a little bit questionable aren't they?

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, but I'm saying to you, it's a legit role, it's a different side of the coin for you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, for me, was that a legitimate role?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, why not?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it was all in the Italian.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I spoke entirely in the Italian.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah That's wild.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Do we have to do a commercial now?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, let's do a commercial.

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[SPEAKER_04]: One second.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm only me a second All right, are you going out to you going to chill out that I see you gonna be at chill out for the week?

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[UNKNOWN]: Oh

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[SPEAKER_04]: Chiller, you mean?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Chiller, Chiller, Chiller.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, it's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're coming.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I saw you on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Really, over the second, third and fourth.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's funny.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people tell me that I'm going places and I never know about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm going.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope you're there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's that it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's hand over Marriott.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And wouldn't it be New York?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's right here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not far from there, actually.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Not far from there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And for my people, I'd really like you to go on Amazon and buy my new book called Mafia Secrets.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Bring it, I'll sign it, I'll sign God for the memorabilia.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's again April 2, 3 and 4.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's the Hanover Mariat.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to take up my guess time any much more of that, moving on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so great to, the last time we really didn't get into a lot of your facets of your life, fortunately.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What else would you like to exploit?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'd like to talk about some films that are coming up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I have a film, a psychological thriller that I shot independent film up in Rhode Island.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's in the Boston International Film Festival.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's coming up April 10th.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll be there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I shot a film, another film in Jersey called the Lupo, and based on a true story of this young boxer who became really, really top earner in the mob in Jersey.

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[SPEAKER_05]: then got involved in something that, you know, all the people that basically were involved in that particular scheme, we're getting killed off.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he faked his own death.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But till this day,

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, we don't know when no one knows where he is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And Nick Stahl is in that Nick Stahl, the young actor, a wonderful actor, actually.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Matt Del Negro and Matt Servedo, who both worked with me on the sprounds.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We're in that film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I shot another film that's, I think they're still filming.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I did my, you know, I already shot my stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That one is called Into the Black.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that was that was a comedy is a dark kind of a dark comedy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's what's Shivan Hogan and a dear friend of mine who recently passed away, Peter Green, Peter and I. Yeah, right, that's God bless.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and oh, well I forgot the most this is the most interesting one that that it's called bad news on the doorstep and that's produced by the Verdi group in in Rhode Island and they've done about five films with Martin Scorsesey.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And Robert Davies in it, Chasperm and Terry sustains the loan, which is the loan's daughter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And Nick Davies, which is Robert, Robert Davies son, is a wonderful actor.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then who plays my son again?

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's played my son like two or three times.

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[SPEAKER_05]: His Chasperm and Terry son, Dante.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a really good film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Takes place in late 1950s.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's fabulous.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That one's bad news on the doorstep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Bad news on the doorstep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm kidding.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's all general releases and theories.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That one's going to be recent theater.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The other ones.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They're all independent features.

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[SPEAKER_06]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Was the first one the loophole?

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, loophole.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That one was called loophole.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Like Wolf and Italian loophole.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And back to the black and bad news on the doorstep bad news and what we've put this we put this in the promo or the show So it stays up for you a while Plus cool Then to watch on occasion.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I get on there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah looking looking so I really am looking forward to seeing Cabrini that that one

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[SPEAKER_06]: Sounds like a great thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's a phenomenal film, really.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you will absolutely love that film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's beautifully directed, you know, the acting was superb.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, really, really, you should definitely, if you have time to check it out.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I thought you would have full beard.

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[SPEAKER_06]: What would be that for?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, well, that was a time period in 19th century, you know, that was the look that they had and tall, you know, those top hats with the mustache going up like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they, you know, they told me ahead of time to, you know, the Grafacial hair.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I, you know, That's not easy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, especially, you know, if you have to do it quick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I hate facial here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how people grow bearded.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't mind.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't mind.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know my sons and they all have bearded.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You have how many tens of sons?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I have tens of sons.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I got daughters.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I got daughters.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I got a lot of daughters.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Kids do that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, right now with grand daughters and everybody has just 33 of them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, grand kids, great grand kids.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Man, that's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's really makes it unique.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Somewhat unique.

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[SPEAKER_04]: 10 mothers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, holy crow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That is, that is very unique, man.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Better Ricoh, do you have any kids?

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, I don't actually.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, you're smart.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They're overwhelming.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But those cranky heads, man.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No.

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[SPEAKER_05]: How about yourself?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I have four kids.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Four kids, wow.

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[SPEAKER_06]: My youngest, this got married, yes.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, it's nice.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They're all married off.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I remember telling them, I can't wait to break up with you guys.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They broke up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But they're nice and, but people say, what are my hobbies?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, I don't have any hobbies.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm listening to you and your passion for your art, and I'm thinking,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, anybody has no cards, if you had to do it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I know, my hobbies are now watching grandkids, but men, your attention went to a beautiful talent that we all get to enjoy and I'll tell you all.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love children.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of nephews and nieces and stuff, but around to it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, you know, unfortunately, unfortunately, I, I've, I've always made a few dollars.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I always had nannies and drivers and, so I, I mean, yes, to be a normal parent, that's a full-time job.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I get you crazy, forget about it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you don't have time to sit down and paint that's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I had a grand out of your class week and I find she's three and a half.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I finally said, listen, grandma can only do 15 things at a time.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You're maxed out.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Thought for a minute, you know, but.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's yeah, well, they hate you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, that's what they don't often hear no for me.

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[SPEAKER_06]: My son told me mom you could tell him no, they don't have any resentment And I said just my revenge.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I told you guys.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm tired of being in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm the yes grandma.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm making him happy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You piss him off.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know That's great

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there are a couple of films that I've been asked to direct, they're at different stages of financing right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: One of them is written by a former New York City detective, and that is, I've done several play, I've done several play readings of his plays, and it's a very,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, actually, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, Molly was wearing the job.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Terry, Terry was a fireman.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, where I'm talking about Jake Quinn.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Jake is the one, is the writer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I sometimes I get confused because there's like eight brothers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like Andrew, whatever, like they, uh, anyway, it's Jake Quinn.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've done, you know, several of his play.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he, he wrote a screenplay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's probably one of the best screenplays I've read in a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's called The Backyard.

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[SPEAKER_05]: really wonderful, wonderful screenplay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, that I'm looking forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Also, what I have coming up as far as art is an exhibition, you know, putting together at somewhere around 12

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[SPEAKER_05]: 12 to 15 pieces of the, you know, the ones that you saw, the large charcoals.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And a couple of galleries that are just haven't having me show there in the city.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So once that happens, I will definitely let you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, let us know because we drop every show, every Wednesday we drop a show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And by the end of the week, okay, it hits a million people.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a lot of really a lot of viewers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we have, well, this show here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's 365 shows 365 hours up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we've been on for a while.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How many years?

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[SPEAKER_04]: How many years?

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[SPEAKER_04]: How many years?

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[SPEAKER_04]: How many years?

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[SPEAKER_04]: A little over five years.

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[SPEAKER_04]: every Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Nice to drop it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like tonight's show will be on 10 days from now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: A will not will.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, for 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything on and tell you what it's about.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But we do a synopsis show within the graphics.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So people know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we've had tremendous, I mean tremendous guests.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're doing now legends like Paul Lang.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, nice.

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[SPEAKER_04]: and we're doing nothing in the world.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, but dang, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was his big deal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what he says.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, I read that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he didn't Who a guy in France, he would be my way and he put the English language to it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The guy sued him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Who wrote it?

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[SPEAKER_04]: A general a composer and France And he did the English language of it Okay, and gave it to Sinatra and then they got sued

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, did you talk about that when you had fallen?

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, I wouldn't talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You would talk to me again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's like talking about a rock in your shoe.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to know about that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't pull like if you use it used, I had a major nightclub in Vegas for years of fatten years in 1980.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it was open 24-7 and everybody was in there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had a gambling in it and this was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Johnny was so state street that that forget about that was insane.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What went on then there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the rat back was there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No.

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[SPEAKER_06]: but you know that one for me I'm a nobody I was a listener just like everybody else and here I sit but it's it was a Federico she was a fan and kept writing in Oh wow yeah and then the guy that was co-hosted with me I said you know what and I hired her I love it

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[SPEAKER_06]: And it's, I have a, you know, it was because I would always listen to the podcast and then I would think of all these questions I wanted to ask because Johnny and his stories are so incredible.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And, and that's how it started.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So now it's so fun for me to hear these stories and I can ask him right now, but I've been amazed.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I have a friend and he said,

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think he came to town and got kind of Mormon, you know?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you know of the Mormon religion?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Pretty straight-laced.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: However, he owns a sports bar, so I'm not really sure, but anyway, he said he used to work parking cars for Gianni, and I thought, what a small world.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But it's incredible that here are all these stories and then you get somebody like Tony Orlando gets on here and talks about Gianni's bar and how much fun it was in Bobby bit 90 years old.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, and don't call it a bar.

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[SPEAKER_04]: 10,000 square feet of bar.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It was a club.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a casino.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this was a nice one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a vicious.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Johnny, who's so stingy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, a fancy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was one, I mean, not to change the subject, but that was one of my famous killings.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, you know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember we talked about this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I guess you might have some guy team in, I'll try to shoot you and you got the better of them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, hello.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Luckily, in fact, the judge who ruled in justifiable homicide, he had a funny line.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, that's seven justifiable homicides.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have any more for you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh!

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have any more for you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You're out of your nine lives.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel inadequate, all the things you've done, and the move is you keep doing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I mean... Amazing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I, um, but I like, you know, I just, I like...

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, movies that say something to me, you know what I mean, scripts, I don't really, I mean, I get a lot of, a lot of scripts thrown my way and sent my way, I should say.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But a lot of them just don't speak to me, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And sometimes my manager, I'm wondering why he's still with me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because, you know, he sends me things and I'm like, uh, Kirina, you know, I'm not interested in this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'd rather just, you know, not waste anybody's time, not waste my time or their time if I, you know, if I don't feel, I'm into the quality stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, yeah, it's exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There are some projects, you know, in New York that that have, they've approached to me and I just won't, won't go near it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I won't do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's funny that I'm developing something now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a big project, 50 million dollar film.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And George Gallo was directing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, George.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, love George Gallo.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's your name.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Your name came up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's, we're going forward.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, George is a painter as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's a fantastic painter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He does landscape, he's a really good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's like sort of an impressionist style.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he does landscapes mainly, but they're really, really good landscapes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't, you know, in situ, meaning he'll go out and work from life.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I know where he actually do landscapes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was just in Montana not too long ago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I went out there and I just started painting landscape,

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was for a client, it was working on studies for painting for a client out there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So now pictures like you've done, you're going to have an exhibit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to sell those or yes, I've been making a living that's how I bought my first house with my paintings, you know, I just it's, you know, it's been, you know, if you look, you can probably find, you know, some of my prices online, but no, that it's taken a long time, but, you know, that there, there's there's a certain category, you know,

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I'm sure they're incredible.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you travel a lot to paint?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause you told this, the ghost story that I always tell everyone about because I loved your, your celebrity ghosts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You were painting, do you take trips just to find something to paint or I did?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm back in the late 90's site.

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[SPEAKER_05]: it was very interesting because I had a sort of a great friend.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was sort of also like a mentor to me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: As a painter, as an actor, as a person, his name was Jeffrey Holder.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if you remember Jeffrey Holder.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you remember that name?

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was a dancer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was a

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[SPEAKER_05]: You remember that name, Jeffrey Holder?

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was, okay, he was barren Samadhi and the first James Bond with Roger Moore.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was a six foot five African American, well, he was actually from Trinidad, Tobago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he was said, one with the black and white face.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Jeffrey was a dear friend.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's got the picture up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You said that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's him, that's him, Baron Samedi, yep, Jeffrey, you probably remember him from the seven up commercials, too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Remember?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That was, that's really kind of dating us, huh?

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[SPEAKER_05]: But no, but he, he always told me that you have to experience the light in France.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Federico, whatever you do, you have to go to France, experience the life, you know, just paint out there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Whenever you get it, so I was like, one day I come home and I watched a film called Great Expectations.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you remember that film?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Johnny, you remember that film?

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I was never a big film, watch it early on, because I lived on my book in Monaco,

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[SPEAKER_05]: So did you ever, you know, the story of the great expectations, like, you know, or did you ever see the film, the Neuro was in it, Ethan Hawke was in it, Gwyneth Paltrow, it was a beautiful, beautiful film, and at one point,

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[SPEAKER_05]: The Neuro kind of like is this little kid is an artist and he's kind of drawing in the water and his hand comes out of the water and grabs him and he was in a scape prisoner and it was it was the Neuros character and then the Neuro He winds up going he says get get me something where I can you know give me some food or whatever so the kid goes back doesn't say anything to anybody and he

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[SPEAKER_05]: He gives him food and something to break his chains, you know, like hammer or whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he never forgot that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so from afar, you know, there was a strange attorney by the name of Ragnel who winds up coming to this artist and saying here, you know, this is this is money for you to go to France and paint out there, you know, an experienced experience to light.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so later on he finds out that it was the nearest character that was sending in the money in order to do those things.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he said that I felt that every artist should experience the light in France.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so now, Jeffrey Holder's been telling me the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so now it's coming to me through, through great expectations.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just dropped everything at the time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I booked a ticket and I went out there for three months and just painted the landscape.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was in the style of the France.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you're going to see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I do these paintings in the collection.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to display now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, all those paintings.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I sold those are all in collections.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Those were all.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Some of them, my brought back, you know, because I had started studies of them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I finished them in my studio, but they're all in collections, you know, some some are in pretty pretty famous collections, actually.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's fabulous.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, thank you for your time, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You can't have me any time, man.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I love talking to you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I always love seeing you in person too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We always have a great time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We got a range of dinner here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna get you back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like the first week in April.

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[SPEAKER_04]: make sure we know when you're going to have the exhibit because we'll exploit it for you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just got to figure out what the best gallery is for me in Manhattan.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And what's one say I zero in on the gallery, then we'll do it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I hope you show a lot of it online because I just fell in love with those charcoal today.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Eventually, I will be doing more of the artwork, you know, like if you look at my Instagram, it's mainly like, you know, sopranos and, you know, appearances and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But there is a website that shows a lot of my paintings.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just Federico Casteluchio paintings.com or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you can see a lot of the paintings there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But eventually, I will do more of that on Instagram.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you don't have a lot of time to be playing around on Instagram.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You're a part of that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, that's the problem.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, the social media is it's a must, but I'm very bad with it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And 83, I'd like to turn on the view on.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, thank you so much for being here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's my pleasure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I get my best to your lovely wife and we'll get together.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I will.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Please.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Get back to the street in April.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll reach out to you and then we'll get together, man.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, Johnny, all the best to you, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Always.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever done, Jim?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Have you?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Ciao.

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[UNKNOWN]: Ciao.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we go bless you, Jeannie, say can I take a night to my little friends?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, for more or less.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, say, Jose, Jose, Gamma, we love you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We hope we're doing good and you're new nephew and Ireland, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and Ireland, we got, we got cards that led us coming from everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, can I thank you?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: God bless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the lights hit the scene, the legend works in stride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gianni's got the stories from the coast of countryside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gianni's got the questions, sharp as a natural sway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's day night, we take you all the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From the back streets of Tinseltown to the trip to Ria's Globe All Hollywood meets Mafia tales and you're about to know It's the Hollywood Godfather where the big man plays And the stories don't stop

