[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the Lorehouse podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are your guides to the Grand Line.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm John Head of Marketing for Binks's Brew.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Alicia, full-time dry cleaner to Captain Smoker.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is our coverage of Netflix's live-action 1 piece episode 2.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Season 2 episodes 1 through 3.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do spoilers just through this episode, so just through the season two episode three, and we'll be talking some light spoilers for the corresponding anime manga episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just to, you know, let you know what you're missing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, through the first three episodes because I have not yet watched further, so I have neither actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously I know a lot of the anime, but I haven't watched further in the live action.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I mean, this was a great start to the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I did get spoiled for me in advance that there was a new character coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, I recognize the actress because she was on Bridgerton.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I, as soon as she showed up, I was like, oh, somehow she's going to work her way into the cruise, but I'm glad that that happened by the end of these first three episodes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that, you know, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, who thoughts about that anymore?
[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, I do know what another few characters Who look like show, you know a few more characters who show up this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what they look like Martial Materials, but I don't know much about their significance.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking forward to what's ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Yeah, the the little boon story especially really touched me
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited about the new, yeah, the new princess in the crew.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, I guess, which you were sort of hinting at when I said, I was talking about the token female crew member and you said, well, wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll just, we'll just, we'll just keep that under wraps a little bit longer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably be out the season, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because I know, I mean, it seems like the crew gets really big because I know of at least one other crew member that shows up that I won't spoil, but I know what this crew member looks like.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's never super big, at least the main crew.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, but there are definitely a number of other members.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this me and somebody's gonna die?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do characters die?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I will say that the stakes are real.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to reveal people liver die, but the show does try to be a little bit realistic on the brisket being a pirate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's is it Le Boone, this Le Boone die?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I will spoil that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Le Boone is still alive for I'm out in the anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like eight hundred episodes, and are you done with your hot takes by the way?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say with Le Boone,
[SPEAKER_03]: I was not expecting it to hit me very hard because they flash back to that episode like eight times.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're just like, and here's what happened with LeBoon and we're like, okay, we get that you know that we like that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do have questions about like the magic paint on his nose that somehow doesn't wash off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just you got a hand with that away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a lot of hand weaving changing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's there for reasons.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that one, that one, I thought they did a really good job of, I thought they did a really good job on all three of these arcs that they did.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, a lot of them were pretty close.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, they cut out a lot of, you know, little moments within.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did a lot of winking and nodding at things that happened in the anime that they took a different direction here, which I thought was funny and I'll, I'll point that out when we get there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really liked, you know, I always talk about like, you know, key moments where you have to sell an adaptation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought in season one their key moment was when Nami begs for help from Luffy and he just puts the hat on her head and it just goes, you know, that is a key moment, a key character moment for the characters in season one.
[SPEAKER_03]: A key character moment in season two so far is
[SPEAKER_03]: And I almost think that Inaki is, I hope I'm running out because they might, is to Luffy as Sam Reed is to list out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he might, he is possessed by the character.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I mean, I commented on this when we talked about season one, but here you see it more that like this, there's a slightly more unhinged aspect that's that's kind of seeping in a little bit, and you can see why some people might be like, oh,
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also because, you know, the actor is aging.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I saw a video somewhere and he's like, well, now that I'm 22 and like, oh, shut up, but you know, seriously, he looks less and less like a teenager and, you know, that adds an edge also to his emoting.
[SPEAKER_03]: that and and man, I am so worried about them getting that far in the series because of, you know, the amount of time it takes to make these shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: It takes us a long time to get the season two just because of the writer's strike.
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully this can be a release going forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know I think they're already filming season three in Cape Town right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and maybe that's also why they chose actors as we talked about last time who are in their 20s and not teens because they are, uh, the changes won't be as dramatic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I want to say a lot more, but I want to see if it forward the specific sex.
[SPEAKER_03]: So why don't we get right into it?
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to alternate paragraphs here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds good.
[SPEAKER_03]: You first.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, the beginning and the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: In a flashback, we see Gold Roger and Vice-Admirable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vice-Admirable Garp have their last meeting in which Roger asks Garp to protect his son from the sins of his father.
[SPEAKER_01]: Garp doesn't give an answer one way or the other.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the present, we see Ms. All-Sunday, number two of Baroque works, attack the Marines of Shells Town.
[SPEAKER_01]: She acquires a new target, Monkey D. Luffy.
[SPEAKER_03]: The straw hats are ready to go to the grand-line, but first they need supplies.
[SPEAKER_03]: They visit Logetown, the place of gold Rogers beginning an end, just in time for his death day celebrations.
[SPEAKER_03]: Zoro and his new friend Tashigi shopped for new swords.
[SPEAKER_03]: His luck lets him walk away with two swords for free, even if one of them is cursed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sanji buys the biggest fish he can find, and Nami goes on a shopping spree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luffy goes immediately to the execution platform with the help of local thief Bartolomeo.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is intercepted by Buggy and the newly powered up Alvita.
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets caught and put on trial in the courts of Buggy's circus where he is sentenced to death.
[SPEAKER_01]: Buggie brings Luffy to the execution platform, and the other straw hats fight a narrowly defeat Buggie's crew, and Alveda, before Buggie can bring his sword down, Luffy smiles in the face of death, shocking Captain Smoker.
[SPEAKER_01]: Buggie's sword is struck by lightning, and Luffy is saved.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, question, I mean a couple questions, but let's start with, is, like, is Zoro lucky in the way that Matt Kauffin is lucky in the Wheel of Time?
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing that explicit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is actually the only time that Laura's Zoro's luck came up in the anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, it's not, it's not gonna be a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I did enjoy that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like, yeah, that whole exchange with the swords and stuff and, you know, that was, um, and just, you know, anime, ridiculousness where I knew he, when he was going to test the swords that he was going to like, do something that throw it in the air and, and like, the fates decide.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it seems like the fates are on their side because we also talk about buggy sword getting struck by lightning and Luffy is saved.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, that is a big question, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like is this fate?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this somebody intervening?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this, you know, I would just look, who knows?
[SPEAKER_03]: I still don't know where I'm at.
[SPEAKER_03]: These are like lingering questions that will go through the rest of the series.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like why is this crew still going?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
[SPEAKER_03]: This crew led by this like very silly man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is it succeeding so hard?
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, also, I didn't realize that Ms. All Sunday is number two for a course.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is going to be confusing.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's not number two.
[SPEAKER_03]: The men are named.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, no, no, no, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That she is second in command.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, well, I know that Netflix advertised for like that in the marketing, so I don't think that's a spoiler.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but yes, she is the second in command in burrow works.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so the men or names with numbers in the women are named with days of the week or something or days of the week or holidays There's like okay, there's yeah, it's because you run out of the names of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have a days of the week, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's notable she's all Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not just part of Sunday.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's all of it and you only get a number
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember where it cuts off, but only the top people get numbers and names.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone else, they're called the billions.
[SPEAKER_03]: This hasn't been revealed in the show the names of them, but I don't think that's a big spoiler.
[SPEAKER_03]: They call them in the anime the billions and those are all the underlings.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's plenty of people in Baroque works, but most of them don't have names.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least special cool code names.
[SPEAKER_03]: So are you intrigued by the Baroque works mystery, you know, this seems to be the threat of this season?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess the mystery is who is in charge and what are they after?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, and we did hear, I think it was in this episode of my little bit of the next episode that the Kingdom of Elabasta is currently like T-Dragon on the edge of revolution.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we know that something is happening with that based on VV's reveal.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Miss Wednesday's dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Her kingdom is currently about to fall to revolution.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it seems like there's a, you know, you teased me with these wider world politics and we're getting glimpses of it and I'm looking forward to there being more.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, I do continue to think that they're doing a good job in the way they handle the lower where it feels like, I feel like I'm getting it, you know, I mean, it feels like I'm getting lower, but it also feels like I'm rocking it, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they are giving it out at the right pace for people like me who are coming into this fresh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think they're doing a good job revealing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: For example, we got a big reveal of Sea Prism Stone, this episode, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a stone that you can use on Devil Fruit users that acts like the ocean to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I kind of missed that to be honest.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, so Luffy's that's why Luffy was so weak.
[SPEAKER_03]: okay and and they they do a whole bit there he's like see prism stone it's just like oh yeah yeah there was a stone that's right that's right it's already it's been a few days since i watched that's all right yeah so see prism stone if if you missed it like Alicia is a stone that is made of of see prism
[SPEAKER_03]: and which is some kind of mineral that acts like the ocean for double for users.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if the marines are capturing a double fruit user or other pirates are, they'll put them in double fruit bindings or they'll make a cage out of, sorry, out of sea prison bindings or they'll make a cage out of sea prison stone.
[SPEAKER_03]: That way they can't use their powers to escape.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it makes them all like weak to just like the sea wood.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why they can't swim.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so ironic to become a pirate at whether you're a devil for a reader.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the trade-off, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, you know what Brandon's Anderson always says in his writing lectures, as he says, the limitations of a power are more interesting than what it could do.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I agree with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm glad that there is a big drawback to devil for users.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because otherwise, it would just be like, why wouldn't everyone need it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: That you have to make a decision there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially since it's this seems to be a world where, you know, our world is what, like 75% water or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we still at least have vast content.
[SPEAKER_01]: They only seem to have little islands as far as we've seen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not aware of any non- Island here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like Earthsea, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's an archipelago.
[SPEAKER_03]: The mystery of who is Roger's son.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about that going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, I'm assuming it's like in when we get these teases, I assume it has to be someone that we know and so I jump to the conclusion that it's that this is related to Luffy.
[SPEAKER_03]: The show is definitely signaling that, whether it's true or false, I will not confirm or didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, also, especially since he asked, was it in this episode where he asked the admiral or whatever garp to take him on, and so that seems to be how he came to be the Guardian of Fluffy?
[SPEAKER_03]: Could be maybe could be I can't confirm I can't confirm okay, we do have two smokers saying like I've only seen one other person Smile in the face of death on that execute right and that is gold Roger Like father like son.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I want to see that wait we did see the casting of gold Roger.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see who Luffy's mom is then I don't think I've even seen Luffy's mom.
[SPEAKER_03]: What yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a whole.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a fact.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 800 episodes and not a not a single shot of Luffy's mom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay So It's gonna be Alvita.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, jinx.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about Alvita's return?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I guess I kind of expected it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, it's fun that she having her and buggy team up that seems like a natural alliance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I hope they're happy together.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're both just the scorn X's of monkey delufe start to form, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is this kid beating us up so much?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like if, uh, if Louis and our mom teamed up against a stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start that happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Only kind of does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but yeah, it's, you know, buggy should have his own crew, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of not just like, I want buggy to have actual friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he'll be nicer.
[SPEAKER_01]: He seems like he needs some hugs.
[SPEAKER_03]: he definitely does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alvita just seems like unplotting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But maybe now with Buggy's crew, she'll be nicer too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they all just need community and then they'll all be good pirates.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is being a pirate mean to Luffy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is other than sailing around?
[SPEAKER_01]: What does he think makes him a pirate and not a sailor?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say this because I don't want to, I don't want to spoil, but I think that his core philosophy is important.
[SPEAKER_03]: He sees piracy as his past of freedom.
[SPEAKER_03]: He wants to be the most free person in the world, be able to do anything he wants at any time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he wants everybody else to also be free.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he thinks that being a pirate is being free, and he learned that from Shanks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm eager to see Shanks show up again because we were left with that tease at the end of last season.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he, I can't go too deep in doing it, but anyway, he's a great character.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like him every time he's on screen.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'll say.
[SPEAKER_01]: like driving him on to practice and all that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I was trying to think of what he read about gold mines.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is the real name, mehawk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mehawk, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, that is mehawk.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, his, his, you know, he lives in his head for in free.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, but I mean, he's he's using it in a motivating way as long as it doesn't get unhealthy and it's nice to see me Haulker because he has a cool look with the golden eyes and and raise like his the big fuck off sword and then the little stupid half-dagger It's just the contrast is I know it's so funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so this is something that they're doing in the show in the live action show that I think is good is they are bringing in
[SPEAKER_03]: late game characters early and well it's so mehawk does show up early in the anime but what the anime will do is it will show you a character display how bad as they are and then they go away for 500 episodes and the show is doing a better job of saying like let's just work them in more so people don't forget who they are and maybe so we can keep the actors on the payroll so they don't find new gigs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, both of those things are important and just for regular viewers, you know, we want to invest in characters and have them stick around as much as possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's tough with live action shows you're relating to people in a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you enjoy the death scene, the execution scene in general, buggy, buggy getting blown away and Luffy, like what were your thoughts with Luffy, you know, being like, sorry guys, guess I'm dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that it, I mean, it does show a little, we're seeing a sort of extreme recklessness in Luffy that you wonder if it could become dangerous to people around him as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that it seems like he really didn't care in that moment, whether he lived or died, which is a little worrying.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting, because he does fight to the last moment, and then once he realizes there's no other way, that's when he, what's a calm, come over him and smiles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I would say he is reckless.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he
[SPEAKER_03]: But he does at least fight to live until he's like, all right, well, finding and going to do me anything, I'll go out with a smile on my face.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I like that a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Can I ask you, sorry, what's an navigator's name again?
[SPEAKER_03]: Nami.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nami.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I ask you what is up with Nami charging Zoro for borrowing money and nobody else?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the deal with them?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, she just does that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think Zoro was the only one without money in general that wanted to buy things.
[SPEAKER_03]: because he wanted to buy expensive stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Whereas, well, you know what it was?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is she, I think she said it, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Zoro was just buying swords for himself and Sansy was buying food for the crew.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, I mean, it was also a good point that the swords protect all of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: right but dummy also just wants money so you just have to anytime she can make an excuse to make extra money okay she will do it she did the exact same thing in the anime i feel like they just did that to kind of make us chuckle
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why does she have against Zoro in particular?
[SPEAKER_03]: I, yeah, it's not against Zoro.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's, she's, she's a skimmer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bartolomeo, and he thoughts on him.
[SPEAKER_03]: He, I mean, the characters I wasn't saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: They kept his weird, weird design from the anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, at the end, it looked like he had fangs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he a vampire?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he just has those.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what I mean, like, they just kept like the weirdest shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so then I just wondered if like the way they showed him at the end it was like there's some significance like remember this character or just the way he was throughout.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, this seems like a character who might have some significance in the future.
[SPEAKER_03]: He disappears for about 700 episodes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because I'm wondering because obviously right after this, they leave the east blue, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes it harder to see the people who live in the East blue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's got 700 episodes to get there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think all you have to remember is he was really admiring Luffy by the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bomb chicken won't work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you mean.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ma'am neuromantic way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember, they're not allowed to have romantic ones, just according to Oda.
[SPEAKER_01]: okay fine but i can see why with the questions i was asking earlier i know there are people who want like um who i've seen people talking about wanting nami and zoro to get together i was like is that like an enemy's to love her situation but no it can be all there are no lovers oh hopes dashed there can be no love in this world no well there's a lot of love just not romantic love with the strong hats
[SPEAKER_03]: ready to go to good well hunting which I didn't realize was the name of the episode tell I made this outline and it's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright you want to read it?
[SPEAKER_01]: The straw hats reach reverse mountain, a mountain with a current that brings you up and lets you reach the grand line.
[SPEAKER_01]: They make it through in time to be swallowed by the boon, the whale.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luffy is the only one not swallowed.
[SPEAKER_01]: He meets crocus, the elderly care taker of the boon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crocus tells Luffy that the rum bar pirate crew left the whale under his care when they learned he wouldn't be able to survive in the grand line.
[SPEAKER_01]: They promised to come back, but it was many years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the boon keeps trying to break through the red line and continuously hurts himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Inside the boon, the straw hat's meet, Ms. Wednesday and Mr. Nine, two agents of Baroque works.
[SPEAKER_01]: They defeat and capture them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luffy recognizes a song the boon's pirates used to sing to him and Luffy puts on his best performance of Binks Brew.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wins the heart of the boon, gets his friends released, paints his flag on the boon's head and promises to return.
[SPEAKER_01]: grok is helps nami with grandline and navigation and garb assigns smoker to the grandline where he will hunt down for oak works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a question about LeBoon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is he raming his head into the redline when didn't like the others continue on to the grandline?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't he try to swim out that way to find them?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um,
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to pull up a map here of one piece.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll send you the map.
[SPEAKER_03]: They came, I believe, also from the East Blue.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they came from the East Blue, and you'll see that they went up that little narrow street into reverse mountain and they came down into the Grand Line paradise part of the Grand Line.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because of that, the red line goes north to south, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was in the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they went over the red line.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so he wanted to break through the red line.
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't realize it was like such a massive tube.
[SPEAKER_01]: The wheat, where's the red line?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a red line North to south.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, this is a more complicated map than I.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the red line is that land mass north to south that has then the reverse mountain in the middle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he doesn't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: So where did his crew go?
[SPEAKER_01]: They went, so Grand lane paradise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is isn't that where, um, crocuses?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, crocus is, I mean, maybe it's because they went, maybe he's putting his head into it because they, uh, came from the east blue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's just not explained that well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm doing no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just explaining it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they just did.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went to go back to where he came from.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what remind me again why they can't just cross the calm belt?
[SPEAKER_03]: The calm belt has no breeze at all, has no wind at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, worry about real science on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just has no end and also it is a breeding ground for sea kings, which I think we saw one last season Those are those giant sea monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so you you can't go through that you have to row through it and The sea monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, by the time you do that so you can't cross the combat would be nice if you could but you can't
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they go up reverse mountain and come down one of the other ways.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's no way to get into Grand Line New World, then, except to come out.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to go through the, it's a, it's a globe, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So you have to go through the Grand Line Paradise section.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first section.
[SPEAKER_03]: The New World is the second half of the Grand Line.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am currently in the New World section of the anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you can get there, but you have to go around the long way around.
[SPEAKER_01]: So wait, which blue are they between the two comp belts right now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's when they get to whiskey peak, they are just into the Grand Line Paradise section.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're going to go all the way east,
[SPEAKER_03]: over, you know, to the other side of the map to the new world section.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's their goal.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they want to get to Laftale, which is the last island in the Grand Line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm confused.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to look up more maps.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've ruined your day here.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know me in the geography.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, so, uh, first of all, the music.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to love this saddened undeniable Calcutten, since prayer you'll take And you'll end up upon this Holy Sees.
[SPEAKER_03]: What'd you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be your friend, too, if you sang those songs to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the boon in the background, too, being like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sounds like a dolphin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you like that singer's laugh, too?
[SPEAKER_01]: Very jolly pirate.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a character we don't see till way later in the anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm excited that they showed him here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's this isn't earlier introduction.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's an early introduction of a character right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And everyone who knows who that is, had a meltdown, like a good way.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, yeah, we're excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so it's interesting that the Baroque works people seem to be especially good and navigating.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they seem to be able to get around faster than others somehow or yeah, there's there's a special kind of log pose we'll talk about in a little while.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we'll probably get to an episode four, so I don't think it'll be a big spoiler.
[SPEAKER_03]: But right now we have the Lord rep of a log pose being the only way you can navigate in the grandline.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you recall, you have to stay on the island long enough for the log pose to calibrate to the magnetic field of that island, and then it will lead you to the next island.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people most people then are always visiting in the same order, or no, because it chooses a random next island, didn't they say something like that?
[SPEAKER_03]: it's no.
[SPEAKER_03]: It does choose the same next island, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just that this particular the starting point of the ground line, you can choose which island you go to.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's like five starting paths, I think they said.
[SPEAKER_03]: But once you're on one of those paths, that is your path.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't wait now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, gotcha.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so then you just have to go all the way around to get back to the beginning.
[SPEAKER_03]: sort of okay you know what i think this is an episode four so i'm just gonna say this uh there is a thing called an eternal pose and that will always be calibrated to whatever island it's belongs to oh okay that makes sense that's a way to get around a little faster all right then you just need a bunch of those you need a bunch of them for all the island
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to say like, they've changed a lot in this episode, but I really enjoyed how they nodded to the anime because you know how they kept going like, what, go inside the whale?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's exactly what happened in the anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: Crocus lived inside the whale.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when they got in there there was like a whole like sky and everything there was a whole environment because Crocus scientists made that happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically, they were like, why are we on island in the, you know, uh, so Crook has had a little island inside and he said it was because he couldn't get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: LeBoon's skin got toothed back and he couldn't get through the skin for the tranquilize more so he moved in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, she's wild, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and, but I love how they do like three nods to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, that's good to know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did wonder about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, are they going to come back later and he's living inside the boom because that you They rightfully point it out, but there's a lot of stomach acid in there Yeah, so again, yeah, he just did that in the anime So I think they were just kind of being like this would be ridiculous in the live action.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we didn't do that, but Let's let's at least like not do it for everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let the men have some sunlight Yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I did mention here we, you know, I think episode 337 ish in the anime is where you first actually see the Pirates who brought LeBoon.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we are really speeding that up here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then the resolution was a lot different in the anime, whereas LeBoon didn't sing to LeBoon in the anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: He sparred with him, a way that his old Pirates used to, and I'm really glad they made this change.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this works a lot better.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he should not just randomly go attacking traumatized animals.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, let's punch the whale.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not healthy for anyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: But also, I was glad that like it would have seemed ridiculous if Luffy punched him and he just went flying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that is exactly what happened in the anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in the live action, I think it's harder to sell that kind of like tiny boy make big whale move.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes Luffy less and daring, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's not like he hit him.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, oh, you want to spar.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way he was going near him.
[SPEAKER_03]: The moon was hitting back.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were laughing while they were doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it wasn't a violent thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he's like, all right, you've got to keep that on you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know where to find you when I come back to spar again.
[SPEAKER_03]: okay well musical reprise appreciated okay also people had a connection in a good way when Luffy did that that move where he takes his arm up and he like hoaxes arm up and keeps him to the side that is like a classic anime dance that the crew does every now and then and I saw somebody on Reddit going he's doing the thing with a screenshot I reminded me of papai
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they did a really good job with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're really, they're doing a great job, I think, of threading the needle between fan service for the anime watchers and the, you know, onboarding you like with the log pose, you slowly talk about that and broke works and all that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we haven't talked about smokeer yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we haven't really.
[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't talk about their fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why I didn't put that in the last part.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, let's talk about Spoker.
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, did you know this?
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, did you notice that he's played by the same actor as Gallaud from Wheel of Time Season 3?
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw that on his Wikipedia, which is pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, anyway, and my wife is telling me that he should play Carl and Dungeon and Crowler Carl when they do the series because he's okay I still I need to read that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you got I think you would love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I keep it's very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Punk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cool But you I loved what as soon as he showed up with like always too fat cigars.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so ridiculous
[SPEAKER_01]: two at a time and then i guess maybe i don't know when it which of these episodes it was where we find out that he actually i guess he ate of devil fruit and he smoked smoke fruit yep yeah and so he actually turns into puffs of smoke which i was like i should have seen that coming but i didn't right right he's he's just you know that's why the i don't even think the cigar's heard it because he's just you know he's made a smoke
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you would think you would get tiring to hold that in your face the whole time, but it's a look, you know, you gotta commit to the look.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once you have two cigars in your mouth, you can't go back.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, people are going to ask.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think people would recognize him without it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get in soft boy, where's your two cigars?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, how do you beat that guy, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: where you have, uh, uh, uh, you can't grab them, you can't hit them.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, and we also found out that Alvita is slippery.
[SPEAKER_01]: She had the slip slip fruit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, um, these are two categories of devil fruit, okay?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, the kind that alters your body and its properties a bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: like Luffy's stretchy arms and the subship fruit or the chop chop fruit with buggy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are called paramisi-type devil fruits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they are considered the least powerful or one of the least powerful types of devil fruits.
[SPEAKER_03]: The strongest types of devil fruits are called
[SPEAKER_03]: Logia style sorry I need I need a minute logia different and that's smokers fruits So that is when you're entire body can change into a substance interesting Okay, so it is that means he's considered more powerful Generally yes a logia type user is more powerful than a piece apparently see a type user Okay And we still do if you didn't really stand a chance on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we know that, for example, Ms. Wednesday and Mr. Nine are not devil fruit users because they swam.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are not devil fruit users.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, Ms. All Sunday for sure is a devil fruit user.
[SPEAKER_03]: She has, yeah, what that whole thing with the arms and the rose but her power is that she could make any part of her body come out of any other surface.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is very, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yikes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very cool, very creepy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and with rose petals, what are the rose petals about?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that they added that for the, for the, um, I've actually didn't do that in the anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was just a stylistic choice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, she always said like, drink to flu.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, she always did like a French, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, whatever, what, how are many flowers she was doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: She would be like, it's like, I think, I think her, you know what it is?
[SPEAKER_03]: Her fruit is called the flower flower fruit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, because she can sprout from anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, I thought they nailed her.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I thought she was fantastic and just creepy and scary will also being like badass and who with who's the one who can like fly around with the umbrella.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the one that shows up in episode three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is, um, I haven't in the notes here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Miss Valentine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because that's a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering why she had it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't have a day of the week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can get a holiday, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: They ran out of days.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's only seven.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there is a miss Sunday and miss all Sunday.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, because all Sunday is a holiday, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, if you say so, but I he I wondered why she's not there's another part Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just Sunday morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess so.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why I say in general, apparently see a type user to a weaker, then look at type users.
[SPEAKER_03]: But miss all Sunday shows how powerful a apparently see a type user can be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy though because, I mean, yeah, it's so arbitrary how do you say that turning into smoke is more powerful than being able to sprout limbs everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what if somebody harms the limbs that she sprouts does she feel that?
[SPEAKER_03]: The reason I would, people consider it more powerful is just that you can't land a hit on the logo yet type users.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so no matter how hard you hit, you can't land a hit on them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're like, functionally impervious to your, to combat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we haven't met any other logo users yet, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Not yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they're coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: Trust me, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're on the grand line now.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got more powerful people coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right, can't wait.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you'll recall we also have another mystery, powerful person that gets smoker to stop chasing Luffy at the end of episode one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I forget now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been like a week since I watched episode one and I do not know what you mean.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they actually do name him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot that they named him.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is drag and the leader of the Revolutionary Army.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, after the fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, after their fight, he stops Smoker from capturing him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got, um, I see pictures of the anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got exes on his face.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, don't, don't look him up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I just looked at his, his folding is a big spoiler.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, nope, too late.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't let people up, uh, we'll talk about that offline, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't look at my whipsies.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they just really put it all out there and just a caption.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, uh, let's take a break and then we'll close out this arc.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're back, time for some whiskey business, which that's hilarious that they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very cute, very cute.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's draw Hats rich cactus island.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're warmly welcomed by the people of whiskey peak, who give them food and drink to their hearts contents.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nami wins a drinking contest with a non, who's up in Sanjaya or Lured into a private room by some ladies and Luffy finds a bakery.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nami and Zoro discover the town is secretly all-broke works and try to fight everyone off before Mr. Nine and Ms. Wednesday can steal the going married.
[SPEAKER_03]: Luffy's separately discovers that Mayor Egoram is Mr.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eight, the head of this town, and Luffy is captured by Mr.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eight at Ms. Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: The three are intercepted by Mr. 5 and Ms. Valentine.
[SPEAKER_03]: They reveal that Ms. Wednesday is actually Princess VV of Alibasta.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Egorom is the chief of Alibasta's royal guard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Egorom sacrifices himself to allow VV to escape with the straw hats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ms. Valentine kills Mr. 9 for his refusal to betray VV and Ms. All-Sunday shows up on the going Nary.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to call out the biggest miss from the anime with this, and I'm actually glad they took it out because it's kind of exhausting.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the way that this happens in the anime is that they all get drunk and falsely, you know, they all eat and drink to their hearts content and falsely, zero wakes up to use the bathroom or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: and sees what's going on and he fights off like everybody in the town like knocks everybody out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Luffy wakes up and is like, what did you do to these nice people?
[SPEAKER_03]: They were so nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we have like a multi episode fight between Luffy and Zoroals where I was like, shut up, you don't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then finally they hug and are fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm glad that we skipped that pointless fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no me too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also kind of for that and we still had Zoro still fought everyone off Um, I like that he was keeping track for us at home counting very gimly and legolas, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, true true.
[SPEAKER_03]: We turn our kills.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd like to see him team up more.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's kind of a lone fighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see like him and he and Sanji seem to have beef.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'd like to see him team up soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they um
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and in a lot of these fights basically like Luffy will fight the boss and Sanji and Zoro will fight there like two top Lutenants.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lift tenants if you're British.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: And God like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll what about the others.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: and the other so not me doesn't start fighting until several hundred episodes and a couple hundred episodes in and then I'm so I'm glad that they gave her fighting style and then who's up as kind of a dipshit at first and finally learns to make his bombs which he he figured out faster here like he had some in his original arc too but like he gets a lot better later and they're already making him a lot more effective right away so they are they are giving us more
[SPEAKER_01]: i mean this this episode is my favorite of the batch i guess well you know if it's just talking a lot of game about laboon but i like laboon as a character but as an episode overall this one was my favorite so far um and i i didn't it's funny that i say that because it was like it was so obvious that the island was off and
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was like they intended for it to be that obvious and they kept a winking at us where you're like, you freaking idiots.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun that they got to have their party and hang out and, you know, drink with a nun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah, and then all fighting broke loose.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I found the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I knew obviously that there was something with
[SPEAKER_01]: who we find out was VV Wednesday and Mr.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eight and yeah I found their story compelling the fact that he was I guess they had infiltrated this group like okay here's my question here so we talked about how her kingdom is under attack so she
[SPEAKER_01]: She and her loyal guards men or whatever have infiltrated the broke works, but it feels like they've been there for a while, so what's the timeline on that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they've been working, I think, for a year or two on infiltrating because they knew that this has been a long-term issue, and somehow they know that somehow the broke works is behind
[SPEAKER_03]: this big impelling civil war on there on their island.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so Veeve made the decision and he came with a Igoram came with her to protect her to sign up for Burrow Works so that she could find the identity of their leader and therefore take them down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah he's the head of the whole island already.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, sorry, you're, oh, you're sick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mr.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ahead of this island.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least this village.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, he's Mr.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ahead, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: He's pretty high up there.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the eighth powerful man in the organization.
[SPEAKER_01]: But only after only a year, like how quickly does this organization churn through people?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's more about power level than it is about tenure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and if he's very powerful, I did really enjoy his missile hair.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know that was great that has to come from the anime I'm assuming but that I love the day to that I don't remember if his hair did that but he did take the me me that was right from the anime I was like thank god they kept that that's so funny well there there was a death that was a real stake that was sad is like a new can't go with them but that was sad he sacrificed
[SPEAKER_03]: And now VV's got to get back to Alibaz so to solve the problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel like she's going to be staying with the crew.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they did take a contract to bring her home, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll see what she finds.
[SPEAKER_01]: Poor VV, poor Alibaz.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how many islands away is that?
[SPEAKER_03]: uh, I don't want to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, there's, there's, there's a lot coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, because I saw all these, like, images of new characters that we're going to pop up and we've only met.
[SPEAKER_01]: a few of them so far.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we so we are heading towards the first like huge arc like saga arc that technically East Blue which we finished with low town was its own saga.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more of just a bunch of interconnected arcs that it is an overarching story, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just them getting
[SPEAKER_03]: large arc saga where a lot of things are being set up now that are going to pay off way later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'll say about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Five with his blowing up boger's as usual with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, what so he also did it with some blood, too, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, any more body he can he could turn into a bomb.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you miss most in this series of episodes from the anime?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't miss a lot, honestly, like they did all the key moments.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, you know, the problem is I watched this like two years ago, maybe three.
[SPEAKER_03]: I watched this part three years ago, so I don't remember all of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's, I pretty much got everything I wanted.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't miss anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, I guess the Luffy Vs were if I'd had some cool moments in it, but I think as a, what's it got stuff thing, that is like a perfect thing to cut.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, good question.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think enough about that before this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry to spring it on you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess I'm just justifying to myself that like, because I'm really enjoying the show and I'm kind of like, I don't know that I want to dip into the anime while the show is going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would still recommend it, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are I would say that what you get more of is like,
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, traveling and having fun with that right is you get a lot more like character moments and and silly things and you could enjoy luffy fighting with LeBoon that would be fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would actually recommend you watch and it's probably only a few episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: You watch the LeBoon arc because that would be from to see like the inside of the whale kind of thing like he's just living inside of the
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, you know, everyone's white in the anime for some reason, I don't understand why I mean it does not make sense for VV to be white and she is very white in the anime and manga, so I'm glad that they went with a more diverse casting with us.
[SPEAKER_03]: each island has its own climate right we've learned that and so obviously you're gonna have different looking people on the different islands and apparently the weather changes in the grandline constantly when you're basically every island has its own like weather orbit okay and it's it's own like weather zone a climate zone and as you're going past different islands
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the casting looks so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't talk about Mr. Nine, but he was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was so sniveling.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he was also at the end, you know, he was like, she's my partner, even if she betrayed you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this guy should have been gallant in the Wheel of Time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, actually, he kind of would have been a good gallant, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, I, I,
[SPEAKER_03]: think that this show is doing a really good thing that the wheel of time took until season three to do as well as I wanted it to which is doing a lot of these like like you said we got to see their celebration doing a lot of those like quiet moments where they're just smiling and having a good time and we're going to see the characters get closer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that that was done really well in Season 3 of the Wheel of Times since you already named dropped that I have to bring it back up and they've been doing that from the get go here.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's also part of like the differences between what the show is, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a show about found family and about friendship in the crew.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're not doing that, you're not doing an effective job at the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been looking at the images of the characters next to their comic counter parts.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope Mr. Three shows up next.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love David Duss Malchian and I want to see what they do with this hair.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, he's definitely coming soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're saving Mr. Two for season three, which sucks because I love him.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's my favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Zero is the leader of the mall?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. One.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, one is weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he say something?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is Mr.
[SPEAKER_03]: Zero.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is Mr.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the leader of the mall.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then all that is second.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all have their partner.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Miss All Sunday is like his partner.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm sad for nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was another sad death.
[SPEAKER_03]: You finally found some backbone.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he was gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm excited to get into episodes four and five with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a lot more to say about these episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of all over the place that's at a certain point, partially because of my poor outlining.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, that's how I do better down for episodes four and five.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's anime style, but I guess yeah, episodes four and five.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very curious, yeah, if that's going to be, because this is sort of like, there was a lot of ground covered in these three episodes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, there's almost like three.
[SPEAKER_01]: mini arcs one per episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's there's like a rapid fire arc at this point in the story and then I think season three will probably be all one arc.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Based on what I know about where they're going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to be it's going to conclude what we are currently in
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there will be a new saga.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is also very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's really, it's all hits.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, you know, which are better than the others.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I am free to watch the next two episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we will be back with episodes four and five next.
[SPEAKER_03]: So make sure you watch those before our next podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: What else we got going on the lower-hand
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, we have you guys, you and David are doing weekly the pit coverage.
[SPEAKER_01]: A word season just wrapped up, yeah, but we've got a few things going on for subscribers like we just put out the warehouse wars episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've moved Mean Girls to this weekend for subscribers, and there's also going to be a bride in weathering heights, which you watch in double, double feature special coming soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: And other than that, yeah, it's, oh, the new into the West.
[SPEAKER_01]: series is launching this week with David and Brian and Lisa covering Gene Hackman's filmography.
[SPEAKER_01]: So looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And 28 years later, the bone temple we decided we're going to launch the episode when it drops on Netflix on March 31st.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I've never watched 28 days weeks years later, but I have read all the Wikipedia articles.
[SPEAKER_03]: So now I can.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's not ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: Watch the movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, one, sometimes I just read Wikipedia articles, but I, not, not for things we cover, obviously, but yeah, yeah, but I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't feel like watching this whole thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just gonna read what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's so, they're so iconic.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, weeks, you can skip weeks, you can skip weeks, but it does have a strong opening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're checking out a bunch of movies that I still don't fully understand how they pick them, but you don't have to.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can just join them for the laughs.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has, it's one, it's like they have to, one of them has to have not seen it, something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's extra rules, because Anthony loves to complicated drafts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: A classic properly how our draft is, I'm a correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alrighty.
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