WEBVTT 00:05.617 --> 00:08.383 [SPEAKER_03]: You're listening to the Good Dirt Podcast. 00:08.403 --> 00:14.575 [SPEAKER_03]: This is a place where we dig into the nitty-gritty of sustainable living through food, fashion, and lifestyle. 00:15.296 --> 00:20.887 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're your host, Mary and Emma Kingsley, the mother and daughter founder team of Lady Farmer. 00:21.669 --> 00:27.220 [SPEAKER_01]: We're sewing seeds of slow living through our community platform events and online marketplace. 00:27.267 --> 00:39.640 [SPEAKER_03]: We started this podcast as a means to share the wealth of information and quality conversations that we're having in our world as we dream up and deliver ways for each of us to live into the new paradigm. 00:40.321 --> 00:42.964 [SPEAKER_03]: One that is regenerative, balanced, and whole. 00:43.425 --> 00:47.749 [SPEAKER_01]: We want to put the microphone in front of the voices that need to be heard the most right now. 00:48.210 --> 00:51.153 [SPEAKER_01]: The farmers, the dreamers, the designers, and the doers. 00:51.453 --> 00:53.456 [SPEAKER_01]: So come call to be a better world with us. 00:53.936 --> 00:55.738 [SPEAKER_03]: We're so glad you're here. 00:55.718 --> 00:59.910 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, let's dig in. 01:01.836 --> 01:03.420 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, now we're here. 01:03.481 --> 01:05.607 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, hello, hello. 01:05.647 --> 01:06.770 [SPEAKER_01]: We're back. 01:07.252 --> 01:07.793 [SPEAKER_01]: Yay! 01:07.853 --> 01:09.358 [SPEAKER_01]: At least to check in. 01:09.398 --> 01:10.521 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 01:11.581 --> 01:15.269 [SPEAKER_01]: So for people that might not have been here before, let's introduce ourselves. 01:15.449 --> 01:21.382 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay, so we are Mary and Emma, I'm Emma. 01:21.703 --> 01:23.406 [SPEAKER_03]: And I am Mary, the mom. 01:23.526 --> 01:25.250 [SPEAKER_03]: And we, yes, mother, daughter, we have. 01:26.232 --> 01:28.557 [SPEAKER_03]: And this is our podcast. 01:28.577 --> 01:29.499 [SPEAKER_03]: This is so fun. 01:29.519 --> 01:30.822 [SPEAKER_03]: We were recording. 01:30.802 --> 01:36.191 [SPEAKER_03]: like weekly and releasing episodes weekly for a long time and then we just took probably about six month break. 01:36.251 --> 01:37.032 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that how long it's been? 01:37.353 --> 01:39.256 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think like summer we dropped off. 01:39.497 --> 01:44.064 [SPEAKER_03]: And before we took an official hiatus, I had a baby this summer before that. 01:44.785 --> 01:48.692 [SPEAKER_03]: So definitely for the first year of Johnny's life, we really ramped down. 01:48.672 --> 02:08.038 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but before that, we were publishing like crazy and we've been doing the podcast since we actually started it in the fall of 2019 At least our first episode in January 2020, so it really while it feels like it was a COVID Project it really was kicked off before COVID, which is a long time ago now. 02:08.518 --> 02:15.087 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's six years that we've been working on this Yes, and for those who might be new here. 02:15.127 --> 02:16.348 [SPEAKER_01]: We should put it in context. 02:16.589 --> 02:18.291 [SPEAKER_01]: Lighting farmer started out as I'm 02:18.895 --> 02:22.000 [SPEAKER_01]: It's sustainable, clothing brand. 02:22.341 --> 02:37.087 [SPEAKER_01]: But we quickly tapped into something more something bigger, something that really became the impetus for us continuing as more as a community and an education platform. 02:37.708 --> 02:43.418 [SPEAKER_01]: That was tied right into our tagline, which is Lady Farmer, sewing seeds of slow living. 02:43.668 --> 02:51.257 [SPEAKER_03]: Also for anyone who's new, I mean, you had two in-person retreats, we did a online retreat in 2020. 02:51.798 --> 02:53.760 [SPEAKER_03]: We had an online community on Mighty Networks. 02:53.800 --> 02:59.707 [SPEAKER_03]: That was really active and fun, and then we switched that to sub-stack before our Hades last year. 02:59.767 --> 03:02.391 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, when you say community, it's true. 03:02.511 --> 03:04.774 [SPEAKER_03]: We really blossomed into a real community. 03:05.755 --> 03:11.802 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, a community that was really there to explore and support. 03:12.035 --> 03:33.418 [SPEAKER_01]: folks, mostly women, but anyone who was trying to lead a simpler life more connected to the seasons and to the earth, a life that demanded less of our time keeping up with the rat race and more of our energy putting into the things that we love. 03:33.601 --> 03:34.983 [SPEAKER_01]: And we've done all kinds of things. 03:35.223 --> 03:39.029 [SPEAKER_01]: We published a book, The Lady Farmer Guide to Slow Living, in the spring of 2020. 03:39.149 --> 03:47.622 [SPEAKER_01]: We are now working on an update of that book, revision, because a lot of things have changed in the last six years. 03:48.364 --> 04:00.402 [SPEAKER_01]: So those of you that have been with us over these years and have been part of our community and have followed us in the Almanac and taken part in our events, both in person and online. 04:01.023 --> 04:03.269 [SPEAKER_01]: And have interacted with us in the Almanac. 04:03.430 --> 04:08.524 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll understand about our evolution and all the things that we have been into together. 04:08.544 --> 04:14.460 [SPEAKER_01]: And so of course, life has rolled along, and Emma's now mom. 04:14.680 --> 04:15.623 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm now a grandmother. 04:16.227 --> 04:23.560 [SPEAKER_03]: I also want to say that as you were talking about evolution, I don't mean to be that guy. 04:23.600 --> 04:31.353 [SPEAKER_03]: But when we were talking about these things at first, it wasn't as commonplace as it is now, not everyone was talking about it. 04:32.034 --> 04:38.185 [SPEAKER_03]: It really felt like we were not the first people talking about it and by it, I mean, slow living, sustainable living. 04:38.165 --> 04:42.939 [SPEAKER_03]: this sort of lay farmer out in the country aesthetic. 04:44.123 --> 04:51.685 [SPEAKER_03]: We were not the first people that ever talked about it, but it definitely seemed the beginning of an upswing right around 2016. 04:51.985 --> 05:08.509 [SPEAKER_03]: When Trump got elected, I feel like that was a big energetic shift for a lot of people wanting to do something I don't know so yeah I want to point that out because it feels very different now in twenty twenty six sort of the context from which we are. 05:09.316 --> 05:12.381 [SPEAKER_03]: talking about these things and exploring these things. 05:12.561 --> 05:14.084 [SPEAKER_03]: I have so much I want to say about this. 05:14.384 --> 05:21.316 [SPEAKER_03]: When you're someone with a platform, we don't have a huge platform, but we have a platform and we have a business and we sell goods. 05:21.917 --> 05:23.379 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you positioned yourself in a way? 05:23.419 --> 05:24.341 [SPEAKER_03]: Like what's our point of view? 05:24.441 --> 05:25.603 [SPEAKER_03]: What's our positioning? 05:25.583 --> 05:34.173 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think all along, you and I have struggled with the positioning of like we're the experts and we know everything, which we don't. 05:34.874 --> 05:38.639 [SPEAKER_03]: When you become like, well, they have all the answers about what's sustainable and what's not. 05:38.659 --> 05:40.721 [SPEAKER_03]: That question just gets harder and harder to answer. 05:40.781 --> 05:42.243 [SPEAKER_03]: The more you know the less, you know. 05:43.084 --> 05:49.532 [SPEAKER_03]: So I just feel like now ten years later from the beginning of the whole project, you and I are. 05:49.512 --> 05:51.095 [SPEAKER_03]: just know so much more. 05:51.115 --> 05:54.622 [SPEAKER_03]: And then that we know we know so much less than we ever have. 05:54.642 --> 06:00.754 [SPEAKER_03]: I really just it might feel we wanted the opportunity to come back and it might not be the same. 06:00.794 --> 06:07.827 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we used to come at it from a way of like, if you want to be sustainable, follow our 10 steps and not that we've ever said that out right. 06:07.907 --> 06:11.875 [SPEAKER_03]: But if that's the vibe that's not really our vibe. 06:13.610 --> 06:36.529 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so if I may back up a little bit, just clarify, when we said we were sewing seeds of slow living, by no means were we pretending that we had invented that phrase, slow living, it was an evolving idea that had come out of the slow food movement of several decades ago, and it was something that was beginning to seep into the culture. 06:37.117 --> 06:40.682 [SPEAKER_01]: because people were feeling tired and stressed. 06:40.942 --> 06:52.098 [SPEAKER_01]: And like they were chasing the wrong things in life, running around and being part of a life that felt not intentional. 06:52.518 --> 06:59.648 [SPEAKER_01]: So in sewing seats of slow living, we sort of joined an early version of this movement. 07:00.438 --> 07:09.973 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, Emma, you're right, in that phase, people are looking around and deciding that city life was too crazy. 07:10.013 --> 07:11.996 [SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to move out, reconnect with the land. 07:12.036 --> 07:14.179 [SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to be closer to nature. 07:14.219 --> 07:15.922 [SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to live closer to the seasons. 07:15.982 --> 07:18.325 [SPEAKER_01]: And all this was part of it. 07:19.227 --> 07:22.712 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, we were quick to say, you don't have to move anywhere. 07:22.732 --> 07:24.034 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to live in the country. 07:24.054 --> 07:26.698 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to live rural aid as slow your life down. 07:27.438 --> 07:31.562 [SPEAKER_01]: and to focus on the things that are meaningful to you and make your life feel more authentic. 07:32.924 --> 07:46.098 [SPEAKER_01]: But we focused on three aspects of life and that's how we structured our events, writings and activities, slow food, slow fashion, and slow spaces. 07:46.699 --> 07:57.310 [SPEAKER_01]: So that kind of give us a focal point for helping people decide how to do life day-to-day in a more sustainable way. 07:58.538 --> 08:00.761 [SPEAKER_01]: We were never experts on it. 08:00.982 --> 08:03.225 [SPEAKER_01]: We were never perfect and we still are not. 08:03.325 --> 08:06.090 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're still doing this and we're still on our own journeys. 08:07.191 --> 08:16.606 [SPEAKER_01]: But here, nearly 10 years later, there are a lot of realities about this that have become obvious and inscapable. 08:16.846 --> 08:18.769 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, personal, and this is me speaking. 08:18.789 --> 08:19.690 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't speak for you. 08:19.710 --> 08:25.980 [SPEAKER_01]: But as we move forward with Lady Farmer in the topics that we want to talk about it and the conversations that we want to have with people on here. 08:27.378 --> 08:48.441 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to acknowledge more those things that cannot be changed and things we talked about earlier for instance, here's a big one, I would say earlier we stressed the idea that we could change the paradigm by each doing our own little part. 08:49.771 --> 09:08.016 [SPEAKER_01]: And I still believe that at its core, but I don't believe any more shocker that if I throw away a piece of plastic, then it's going to hold up the paradigm shift that I'm not doing my part. 09:09.059 --> 09:27.397 [SPEAKER_01]: Because as we've talked to people and we have read and we have studied and we have tried and we have conducted our own behaviors in the best way that we know how, we have seen more than ever that the systems that play here make us feel like is up to us individually. 09:28.177 --> 09:31.661 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a change things and it's really not. 09:32.101 --> 09:36.265 [SPEAKER_03]: I just think that we have less power than we've been trained to think that we have. 09:36.430 --> 09:38.114 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's a really good way of putting it. 09:38.375 --> 09:47.757 [SPEAKER_01]: The systemic powers that be have set up a paradigm that we can't change individually. 09:48.226 --> 09:57.703 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that sounds really like Debbie Downer, and I know you mean, I don't think that we mean to sound Debbie Downer, but I think it's just about having a different conversation. 09:57.743 --> 10:00.267 [SPEAKER_03]: There's still hope we are still hopeful people. 10:00.287 --> 10:13.390 [SPEAKER_03]: We can still improve our own lives in the lives of those around us, and as much as we can and as much tangible ways as possible, try to improve the lives of those even who aren't right around us. 10:13.370 --> 10:17.754 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the point of life is to make life better through the people around you and yours. 10:19.316 --> 10:19.516 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 10:19.816 --> 10:21.057 [SPEAKER_03]: So we haven't lost all hope. 10:21.258 --> 10:25.902 [SPEAKER_03]: But I just think that we started this whole project with like, well, we're in the capitalist system. 10:27.463 --> 10:27.604 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. 10:27.624 --> 10:29.846 [SPEAKER_03]: So we got to change it in a capitalist way. 10:30.206 --> 10:32.268 [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe that's true, maybe that's not. 10:32.368 --> 10:37.333 [SPEAKER_03]: But that's just kind of conversation that we got tired of having because there's not much more to peel back there. 10:37.533 --> 10:37.753 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 10:37.954 --> 10:39.495 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to follow up by saying, 10:40.673 --> 10:58.576 [SPEAKER_01]: That does not mean that I still don't try in my everyday life to minimize my plastic waste or my wasted all or try to do my very, very best to buy only things that are good for the earth and healthy for us and our families. 10:58.976 --> 11:00.658 [SPEAKER_01]: I still try on our day-to-day basis. 11:00.678 --> 11:05.204 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's because you like those things and feel better when you do that. 11:05.404 --> 11:08.368 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that for our conversations moving forward. 11:08.348 --> 11:13.775 [SPEAKER_03]: It's really important that we remove morality like good bad, right wrong. 11:13.875 --> 11:16.298 [SPEAKER_03]: That's just so rampant in this space. 11:16.818 --> 11:25.849 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you can have a very productive conversation with just like really black and white, good bad, right wrong kind of thing because there's so much nuance to this. 11:26.170 --> 11:29.354 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not interested in having the conversation that it's up to us to change things. 11:29.754 --> 11:36.162 [SPEAKER_03]: Also though, the only thing we have control over is us. 11:37.711 --> 11:42.336 [SPEAKER_03]: is change how we act and think and try to be aware of how we feel. 11:42.937 --> 11:50.044 [SPEAKER_03]: So much of what we're doing here is like we're in pursuit, you and I, through Lady Farmer are in pursuit of the good life. 11:50.164 --> 11:52.106 [SPEAKER_03]: We've boiled it down to that in the good life. 11:52.126 --> 11:52.647 [SPEAKER_03]: What does that mean? 11:52.687 --> 11:54.228 [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be different for every person. 11:55.069 --> 12:04.039 [SPEAKER_03]: And the life we want to lead, the life we want to lead, not in a moral good way and the one that you want, the one that makes you feel happy and fulfilled. 12:04.820 --> 12:05.220 [SPEAKER_03]: So, 12:05.875 --> 12:07.297 [SPEAKER_03]: then it's down to feelings. 12:07.637 --> 12:11.742 [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be very subjective for everyone and being aware of those things. 12:11.842 --> 12:21.593 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what I want to be talking about more because I'm fascinated by emotions and how our emotions control us a lot of the time. 12:21.633 --> 12:24.837 [SPEAKER_03]: And someone might say, well, what does that have to do with sustainability? 12:24.857 --> 12:28.060 [SPEAKER_01]: But I actually think it has a lot to do with sustainability. 12:28.521 --> 12:34.768 [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, I think a big way I've shifted is 12:35.609 --> 12:47.061 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get too hung up on the granular thing about how well I'm following the sustainability code, which boxes in my checking off. 12:47.682 --> 12:53.488 [SPEAKER_01]: Because over the years, the habits that I've formed, I really sort of do that second nature anyway. 12:53.769 --> 13:04.300 [SPEAKER_01]: I think both of us do, and anybody that is aware of these things, aware of sustainable fabrics, aware of the good food, the real food, the slow food, 13:04.280 --> 13:09.826 [SPEAKER_01]: the things surrounding us that contain harmful substances or have to go in the landfill. 13:09.846 --> 13:11.768 [SPEAKER_01]: We're sort of second nature to us now. 13:13.110 --> 13:13.330 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 13:13.350 --> 13:24.162 [SPEAKER_01]: However, having gotten this far, I don't want to be so gripped by it that I can't live and it gets into my emotional space. 13:24.623 --> 13:26.925 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here's a really good example of it. 13:28.086 --> 13:30.369 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing some major decluttering this month. 13:30.509 --> 13:34.033 [SPEAKER_01]: I really got into it in a big way. 13:34.351 --> 13:45.408 [SPEAKER_01]: that my reluctance to throw something away that I knew could not be recycled and I knew it was gonna end up in the landfill, but it no longer belonged to my space. 13:45.849 --> 13:50.617 [SPEAKER_01]: I realized that my reluctance to let it go to the landfill was really holding me back. 13:52.339 --> 13:54.122 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't even really conscious of it. 13:54.142 --> 13:56.646 [SPEAKER_01]: I was holding on to stuff because I knew that 13:56.930 --> 14:05.622 [SPEAKER_01]: This was, it's last stopped before it became a permanent fixture in a big pile of trash somewhere. 14:05.642 --> 14:08.706 [SPEAKER_01]: It was very, very sad to me. 14:09.107 --> 14:14.414 [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about emotions and I don't mean to be overly dramatic, but that makes me sad. 14:14.495 --> 14:15.436 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's really important. 14:15.496 --> 14:23.427 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so excited to bring this into this because yeah, I think what's going to save the world is we're all become much more emotionally aware. 14:23.947 --> 14:25.209 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we all compost. 14:25.369 --> 14:26.230 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's all it is. 14:26.551 --> 14:27.492 [SPEAKER_03]: We just figured it out. 14:27.572 --> 14:29.134 [SPEAKER_01]: So we can do that. 14:29.154 --> 14:29.976 [SPEAKER_01]: That is so true. 14:30.136 --> 14:35.904 [SPEAKER_01]: About food that is just composting and knowing and being emotionally aware, that's it. 14:37.967 --> 14:48.081 [SPEAKER_01]: So I had to get to the emotional part of saying, I wasn't helping the world by keeping this unrecyclable thing in my way. 14:49.107 --> 14:57.697 [SPEAKER_01]: So, for the first time in a very long time, I've thrown away a lot of things that I know were going to end up with the trash because there was nothing else to do with them so that I could clear my space. 14:57.797 --> 14:59.202 [SPEAKER_01]: There, I've admitted it. 15:00.346 --> 15:17.086 [SPEAKER_03]: What I think is interesting is if we just accept some things are gonna have to go on the trash, then the emotional weight that that frees up for you to be in the world and be more free in your mind and heart to then create stuff to share with the world. 15:17.146 --> 15:22.152 [SPEAKER_03]: That is doing more good or however you wanna look at it. 15:23.262 --> 15:26.325 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been holding on to these anyways. 15:26.425 --> 15:28.527 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just energy, it's all flow. 15:29.348 --> 15:34.513 [SPEAKER_01]: And 10 years of talking about it has informed us to this place where we are. 15:34.553 --> 15:45.884 [SPEAKER_03]: What we're interested in now is sharing our perspective, and our experiences, on our quest for the good life. 15:46.244 --> 15:47.445 [SPEAKER_03]: However, that is defined. 15:47.525 --> 15:50.468 [SPEAKER_03]: It looks a lot different, even between my mom and I. 15:51.781 --> 15:56.146 [SPEAKER_03]: And what that means to us, we both really love a lot of the same things. 15:56.227 --> 15:58.209 [SPEAKER_03]: We both love feeling good in our space. 15:58.249 --> 16:00.972 [SPEAKER_03]: We both love family and we love being outside. 16:01.493 --> 16:03.375 [SPEAKER_03]: And we love feeling abundant. 16:04.256 --> 16:05.718 [SPEAKER_03]: And all of those things. 16:05.838 --> 16:11.185 [SPEAKER_03]: And so if it's helpful to anyone else, we are so happy to share it. 16:11.906 --> 16:13.007 [SPEAKER_03]: But that's all we're trying to do. 16:13.408 --> 16:16.251 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's helpful to say we are the rule keepers. 16:16.311 --> 16:17.593 [SPEAKER_03]: And this is good, and this is bad. 16:17.613 --> 16:20.877 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm more interested in talking about why that's not helpful. 16:21.076 --> 16:22.177 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all emotional. 16:22.458 --> 16:25.101 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, why do you have feel like you need to buy that thing? 16:25.642 --> 16:27.123 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, what thing is lacking? 16:27.244 --> 16:35.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Our good friend Amy DuFault, who is the very first interview on this podcast, she likes to say when we get really deep about this stuff. 16:35.794 --> 16:38.137 [SPEAKER_03]: It all boils down to like meaninglessness. 16:38.157 --> 16:41.901 [SPEAKER_03]: We're all trying to fill a hole when we buy the things we don't need. 16:42.802 --> 16:45.786 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's really the problem. 16:45.926 --> 16:47.708 [SPEAKER_03]: The problem isn't trying to save the planet. 16:47.849 --> 16:48.990 [SPEAKER_03]: It's how we feel. 16:49.628 --> 16:58.357 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a good time to bring up that I have a personal theory that a lot of this meaninglessness and emptiness that we feel culturally. 16:59.478 --> 17:10.169 [SPEAKER_01]: And as humans is because we've really lost our connection to who we are as intrinsic to the planet and nature and the world. 17:10.430 --> 17:12.372 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to take this to a new level. 17:12.492 --> 17:16.716 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know exactly how we're going to do that, but that's my yearning. 17:16.865 --> 17:29.589 [SPEAKER_03]: talking about who we are, where we see ourselves right now, what we're interested in exploring, a big part of also creating this online platform community podcast, everything. 17:30.130 --> 17:38.907 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very interested in creativity and creating things and having an idea and sharing it with the world. 17:38.887 --> 17:45.750 [SPEAKER_03]: in the past also, we've run groups of the artist way through our online community, which is a book about creativity. 17:46.312 --> 17:50.888 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really helpful, especially for listeners of this podcast, who as we say, 17:52.302 --> 18:01.416 [SPEAKER_03]: we say the lady farmer is someone who wants to cultivate the world that they want to see, starting with right under their feet, bloom where you are planted. 18:01.436 --> 18:02.438 [SPEAKER_03]: So the seeds. 18:03.079 --> 18:10.210 [SPEAKER_03]: If you are listening to this, you might be someone who's also interested in how things grow, how things come. 18:10.983 --> 18:35.539 [SPEAKER_03]: into the world how they come to fruition, and you might also be doing things online in the digital space, and I know I was speaking vaguely, but I just mean that's things that I'm interested in too, and how to build that through this project, I've basically turned my career into for a lack of a better word because I don't love this word, marketing, so now my job that I get paid for is 18:35.519 --> 18:43.091 [SPEAKER_03]: Technically marketing, but it's really like a digital communications community position. 18:43.272 --> 18:59.097 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's been really fun for me and very like a good use of my skills and my time and I get paid for it, which is another thing I'm so happy to talk about on this podcast too, that we we sort of brush around a lot because it's a tricky 18:59.077 --> 19:19.971 [SPEAKER_03]: Subject money because a lot of the things we're interested in don't pay very well But they cost a lot of money and the products that we want to buy a cost a lot of money because They're made ethically and so the people who make them are paid and so it's just money the world of sustainability is another huge thing That I would love to talk more about to so 19:19.951 --> 19:27.920 [SPEAKER_03]: So, I've been up to, I have a 18-month-old toddler, so that keeps me busy. 19:28.961 --> 19:39.372 [SPEAKER_03]: We moved house's last summer, so I've been very busy with much help to my mom setting up the new house, and that's been fun. 19:39.532 --> 19:44.758 [SPEAKER_03]: It's always fun to have kind of a forced clean slate, much help from my mom. 19:45.158 --> 19:46.920 [SPEAKER_03]: Much help from my mom. 19:48.622 --> 19:49.724 [SPEAKER_03]: even in my grammar. 19:49.804 --> 19:51.367 [SPEAKER_03]: She's just always helping me. 19:52.710 --> 19:53.251 [SPEAKER_03]: What about you mom? 19:53.271 --> 19:53.872 [SPEAKER_03]: What if you've been up to? 19:54.493 --> 19:54.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 19:55.615 --> 20:01.285 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a very busy grandmother season because I became a grandma for the second time late in the summer. 20:01.927 --> 20:03.289 [SPEAKER_01]: So now I have two. 20:04.248 --> 20:05.590 [SPEAKER_01]: little grandson. 20:05.851 --> 20:08.375 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's been a lot of traveling back and forth. 20:09.277 --> 20:22.459 [SPEAKER_01]: Then the holidays with the growing family and I also have many many projects here on our little farm in terms of gardening. 20:22.928 --> 20:42.068 [SPEAKER_01]: And the kind of gardening that I want to talk about so much on here, the kind of restorative gardening that I alluded to, the kind of gardening that I have only learned about in recent years through our conversations on lady farmer through our readings and through our talking with experts and. 20:42.908 --> 20:48.353 [SPEAKER_01]: People familiar with climate realities, what's happening on the planet. 20:48.413 --> 20:56.480 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very fascinated by this topic and very deeply into it here where I live and very much wanting to share what I've learned. 20:56.520 --> 21:05.108 [SPEAKER_01]: I would like to have a cohort or community as people that are interested in the same thing and just want to meet regularly and talk about these things. 21:05.509 --> 21:08.531 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're out there going, me, me, me, me, I want to be a part of that. 21:09.072 --> 21:09.853 [SPEAKER_01]: Please email us. 21:09.933 --> 21:12.595 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me know. 21:12.997 --> 21:13.698 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 21:13.718 --> 21:17.665 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we should mention that we're waking up our online store as well. 21:18.506 --> 21:27.782 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is also like, could be a whole podcast where we just talk about the rabbit hole of having an online store, like no zoomerism. 21:28.203 --> 21:28.784 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, I know. 21:29.104 --> 21:29.765 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying. 21:30.226 --> 21:36.557 [SPEAKER_03]: But we have made the decision to continue our online store because we buy things. 21:37.060 --> 21:45.128 [SPEAKER_03]: And we all buy things, and we like sharing things that we like, so we're going to share the things that we like with you. 21:45.168 --> 21:52.996 [SPEAKER_03]: Not every single thing in our online store, we have personally used, but we're listing things in our store in a way. 21:53.016 --> 21:55.999 [SPEAKER_03]: That's like, we like the company. 21:56.159 --> 21:57.160 [SPEAKER_03]: We like the founder. 21:57.200 --> 21:59.642 [SPEAKER_03]: We think that this is interesting about this company. 21:59.682 --> 22:00.843 [SPEAKER_03]: We like these products. 22:00.923 --> 22:01.744 [SPEAKER_03]: We would buy them. 22:02.365 --> 22:05.548 [SPEAKER_03]: So we want to offer lots of items, and we want our 22:05.849 --> 22:33.257 [SPEAKER_03]: lady farm market place to be somewhere where you can where you can say, oh, I'm looking for like a shampoo bar and are there any shampoo bars in that lady farm marketplace and then there are so that's the answer to that, but yeah, so we want our online store to be kind of a place of things that that we would recommend and we do this with the awareness that there are lots of places you can get these things now so much more than there were 10 years ago. 22:34.182 --> 22:39.940 [SPEAKER_01]: And there are lots of this kind of so-called sustainable products to choose from. 22:40.375 --> 22:52.047 [SPEAKER_01]: So our aim is to, with our experience with it, to maybe go a little deeper and hopefully fair it out, the ones that we would choose over others if that is important to anyone. 22:52.067 --> 23:06.703 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we still have very few pieces left, but we do have some of the clothes that we produced if you have ever thought about getting one of those, there's a few tops, there's skirts, there's pants, a couple of dresses, 23:07.831 --> 23:09.917 [SPEAKER_03]: Just the very last few pieces are left. 23:09.937 --> 23:13.326 [SPEAKER_03]: We actually sent, I guess it's been a year now. 23:13.386 --> 23:17.858 [SPEAKER_03]: We sent a most of the stock that we had to. 23:18.412 --> 23:19.433 [SPEAKER_03]: the L.A. 23:19.874 --> 23:26.843 [SPEAKER_03]: Wildfire recovery efforts to support people who lost everything in the wildfires. 23:27.024 --> 23:27.945 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was really fun. 23:27.985 --> 23:48.132 [SPEAKER_03]: And it went specifically to a slow fashion store where the people who would have gone there and known about it would be people who would really love and appreciate the natural fibers and who might have had a closet full of that stuff but lost it all. 23:48.112 --> 23:51.259 [SPEAKER_03]: People who really appreciated it. 23:51.760 --> 23:52.321 [SPEAKER_01]: That felt good. 23:52.542 --> 23:53.323 [SPEAKER_01]: That felt really good. 23:53.384 --> 24:07.234 [SPEAKER_01]: We're also still selling Wonderful bedding that we've been selling for years from holy lamb organics every night I am grateful for them as I sleep under this beautiful wool comforter that's so warm and comfortable 24:07.214 --> 24:21.780 [SPEAKER_03]: There are based in Washington State, and if they're not all women, it's mostly women run operation, that hand finish all of the bedding and make everything right there in Washington. 24:22.180 --> 24:24.885 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, lots of gardening. 24:24.865 --> 24:37.744 [SPEAKER_01]: things and things for kids and pets and I also sell some things on there that I have personally hand-died in my own little barn studio out here with flowers that 24:38.872 --> 24:42.980 [SPEAKER_01]: I cultivate and nurture all season long. 24:43.741 --> 24:49.472 [SPEAKER_01]: I love dying things with natural plants and flowers and I love sharing it. 24:49.633 --> 24:56.085 [SPEAKER_01]: So lots of times, I'll see some of those things pop up online, not always, but very often. 24:56.366 --> 24:58.129 [SPEAKER_01]: Right now, there's a bunch of bandanas on there, so. 24:58.312 --> 25:10.730 [SPEAKER_03]: So yes, that is one of our projects to keep the store stocked with things that we would get ourselves if we don't already have them, and things that we think you would enjoy too. 25:11.111 --> 25:13.775 [SPEAKER_03]: Because that's just a fun thing to do to have a little store, right? 25:14.436 --> 25:16.779 [SPEAKER_03]: Miss, that's what we're doing, put that. 25:16.820 --> 25:19.003 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're not here pretending that we never buy anything. 25:19.564 --> 25:27.255 [SPEAKER_01]: As we move forward with Lady Farmer, helping people, helping ourselves and other people as we explore ways 25:27.843 --> 25:29.906 [SPEAKER_01]: feel all of that, all of what you said. 25:30.406 --> 25:40.499 [SPEAKER_01]: Connection to the earth, the world around us, the natural cycles, the people in our lives, our work, our creative work, our bodies. 25:41.461 --> 25:43.223 [SPEAKER_01]: We want our bodies to be healthy and strong. 25:44.264 --> 25:47.809 [SPEAKER_01]: Like very much forward to seeing where this takes us. 25:48.802 --> 25:51.504 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I hope you guys come along for the ride. 25:52.405 --> 26:00.973 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, and if you have any ideas or requests, in fact, we did get a great email that they're day from someone who listens to the podcast and they had a few questions for us. 26:01.133 --> 26:04.336 [SPEAKER_03]: And that we're just very timely and helpful as specific questions. 26:05.077 --> 26:07.299 [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be an interview that you'll hear in a little bit. 26:07.519 --> 26:10.682 [SPEAKER_03]: We just want to have all these conversations and we want to know what you're thinking about. 26:11.502 --> 26:12.243 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm wondering about. 26:12.283 --> 26:14.045 [SPEAKER_03]: So please write to us and let us know. 26:14.725 --> 26:17.728 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, books, and we're going to find the secret 26:18.063 --> 26:28.236 [SPEAKER_03]: making money in everything, just getting, I'm just trying to be like, that's what, like, podcasts that are successful do. 26:28.296 --> 26:30.519 [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, this is how you make a lot of money. 26:31.481 --> 26:33.704 [SPEAKER_03]: So we should just say that so people will click on it. 26:34.565 --> 26:36.627 [SPEAKER_03]: How to make your next million dollars. 26:37.028 --> 26:38.290 [SPEAKER_03]: And then we just talk about other stuff. 26:38.610 --> 26:40.372 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know what would our click bank title be. 26:41.694 --> 26:42.295 [SPEAKER_03]: Create your money. 26:42.315 --> 26:46.180 [SPEAKER_03]: I make one million dollars a month and I work for five minutes. 26:47.071 --> 26:48.615 [SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm going to show you how to do it. 26:48.635 --> 26:51.100 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you just have to sign up for my class. 26:52.443 --> 26:52.824 [SPEAKER_03]: Just kidding. 26:53.004 --> 26:53.466 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. 26:54.728 --> 26:55.691 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I will have a class. 26:55.751 --> 26:58.397 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 26:58.417 --> 26:59.379 [SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen that character? 26:59.419 --> 27:01.383 [SPEAKER_03]: I never made a class. 27:02.406 --> 27:03.087 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 27:03.107 --> 27:04.270 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm thinking about. 27:05.971 --> 27:07.714 [SPEAKER_01]: And how do we, how do we wind it up? 27:07.734 --> 27:10.359 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we just did sign up for the class. 27:11.641 --> 27:13.264 [SPEAKER_03]: We know that consistency is really important. 27:13.284 --> 27:14.166 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to be consistent. 27:14.326 --> 27:19.075 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know like what that means if that's every other week or once we last. 27:19.095 --> 27:22.381 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we'll see we appreciate you being here and just stay tuned. 27:23.463 --> 27:27.130 [SPEAKER_01]: Happy spring everybody and more to come on man. 27:27.210 --> 27:27.370 [SPEAKER_01]: Bye. 27:29.754 --> 27:30.055 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kidding. 27:32.279 --> 27:36.184 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for tuning in, calling in, and spreading the good dirt. 27:36.204 --> 27:37.787 [SPEAKER_03]: We love hearing from you. 27:38.447 --> 27:41.632 [SPEAKER_03]: You can reach our listener voice mail at 4443-459-1950. 27:44.235 --> 27:46.018 [SPEAKER_03]: That's 4443-459-1950. 27:47.139 --> 27:52.106 [SPEAKER_03]: You can find this number in our show notes in our Instagram profile. 27:52.547 --> 27:56.532 [SPEAKER_01]: This show is produced by Lady Farmer, a slow living lifestyle community. 27:56.832 --> 28:00.177 [SPEAKER_01]: And 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