[SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back once again to Home Maker Sheek Podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Say it with me now.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're re-array rescuing the art of home making from the daily grind.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am Shay Elliott of the LEADHomeStead.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: Join by Angela Reed of Perrision Farmgirl.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are the hosts of Home Maker Sheek Podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here with you once a week, every Monday, normally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Normally, hi, I must be taking a break, hi, a break, good in fact, good, what kind of no idea should I, I'll just dive into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a breakdown the other day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to compliment you on your sweater, but thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to go right to the weeping and gnashing of teeth.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do, I don't want to hold back from our podcast audience.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you guys get the full
[SPEAKER_04]: some of us are more models than others.
[SPEAKER_04]: She likes to process out, how would I do process out loud?
[SPEAKER_04]: She did have a, so if you've listened long enough, you know, February is tough for both of us, but in particular for she around the 17th, it really gets bad and she's true to
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm true to form.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm true to form, but where I was going with that was as I was gnashing my teeth with steward.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, you know, you can take a break.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, what's that?
[SPEAKER_01]: and how does one do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this break that you speak of?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or
[SPEAKER_02]: And we haven't had a break from the cooking community work since that moment, which is just wild when you think about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Angela and I were talking on the phone this morning about some, we talk about this all the time on the podcast, but sometimes if you feel like it's thick, it's because it's thick.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you feel like you're a little empty, it's because you're probably a little bit empty, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but not without hope spring is coming and that's what we're going to talk about today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I did buy my sweater on clearance because it is spring, so everyone's not like getting rid of their winter stuff and all's like, I'll take it.
[SPEAKER_02]: 40% off, I'll take it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't stand it when you go to the clearance rack and things are like $3 off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That, and I was about to tag on it and you're like, bit dramatic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that yellow tags a bit dramatic for this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get offended.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to see like slash over slash, over slash, over slash, $2.50.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when I'm going to, if I'm going to spend the time to be like, me, me, me, me, you know, through each hanger, that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Give it to me, give it to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did, I say this on the show, I think I did.
[SPEAKER_04]: five weeks ago or whatever T.J. Max was holy clearance, Batman.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was so fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought about what you said a few weeks ago here on the podcast where you were like, you never go shopping.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, huh, I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I did a little bit this week, which is really fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it fun?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have fun?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you go with a charger?
[SPEAKER_04]: You go by yourself, but did you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you get a coffee?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But but I did go and and I got myself some new pants because mine got too small.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you're gonna do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just keep telling yourself it's your cloths.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh, I've just been lifting so high my muscles and my legs are just bulged just by lifting to failure, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fortunately, I don't think that's quite what it is, but never the last here we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trust for the life you want, not the life you have, but have not want.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember what you made so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Definitely the life you want.
[SPEAKER_04]: What does it look like to just for the life you have?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my gosh.
[SPEAKER_04]: It has to be bleach proof.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have to be able to grow all around in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: For long periods at this school table, you have to be able to do 82 flights of stairs a day in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: A little plastic nips on this side of your laundry basket.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't snag it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_04]: What else?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went out the other day and delivered this little lamb, and I had on, I was dressed nice because I was getting ready to film that day, and I had a kid run down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maribow's having our limbs.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I pull my coveralls on up over my nice ironed bulls, and my necklace says,
[SPEAKER_02]: Just put on my little swamp boots and my coveralls and head out and pull out this lamb and it was fantastic and then I thought I came back in and just stripped it all the way and was like okay and now we're professional and clean again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at us go it's this duality you and I talk about that all the time but life is this duality even a homemaker is there's this life of duality where you are scrubbing toilets and taking out trash.
[SPEAKER_02]: and doing some of this not so pleasant during work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet here we are, episode after episode saying yeah, but come on, shower girl, come on, dress nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure, you can do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Luckily I can have a film for a lot of our work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's filming for YouTube, doing the podcast recordings.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've do a lot of my kitchen.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, well, you got it ready today.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a healthy amount of pressure there, let me tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all my Italian lessons, I'm like, you're gonna see people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, how do you want them to see you?
[SPEAKER_04]: I look, I just have one tutor, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I cannot look at myself on that screen, look in like a skunk.
[SPEAKER_04]: I get ready every morning.
[SPEAKER_04]: I work out, I quick get ready, put on my makeup and like, plopped onto my chair and start my lessons at 830,
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so distracted if I'm looking at myself like, you know, there's no verb conjugating going on there.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other day I had a really early lesson and Stuart brought me in breakfast and a latte while I'm doing this lesson.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm trying to retell this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was supposed to read an article for my homework in Italian and then explain this article to my tutor.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm doing this and it's on horse meat about how really was trying to ban horse meat, which is a very traditional meat eaten, especially in the south of Italy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as I'm I'm telling her the story, and then I would get to a verb.
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't remember something I couldn't put together.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I would just take a little bite bacon.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, put the bacon down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put the bacon down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Focus on what you're supposed to be saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like comfort bacon.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, I don't know what to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just bake it in my mouth.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_04]: This salty fat makes me so happy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was how do you want to be?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you ever want to be humbled, learn to say a language lesson.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you just want a daily dose of feeling like an idiot, I could go language.
[SPEAKER_02]: I misspoke when I was retelling this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said of saying the proper word for horse.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm going to get them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I say the word for cabbage instead of the worse horse.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like cabbage meat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, and she thought I was trying to explain some like newfangled AI technology where they're like 3D printing cabbage meat No way Just ate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll leave
[SPEAKER_03]: It's good though.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's humbling.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's humbling.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's too many things.
[SPEAKER_04]: I make just the stupidest, smallest mistakes every day.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if I could just eliminate those mistakes, it's like when you're going over school stuff with your kids and they're 12 and you're like, come on, you know, this sentence needs an uppercase letter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are the kind of mistakes I make in French.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just leave and letters off the end of words, just why wouldn't you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why wouldn't we keeps it more exciting that way keeps them in a job.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, you're welcome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we are going to talk about spring today.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a beautiful day here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Angela is still in some snow and I'm sorry, but it's beautiful and it's got me thinking it's got me creatively inspired.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got me just wanting to come talking about spring.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to, I'm trying to take out the sludge.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to pretend, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought we were talking about fashion or travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now it's spring.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Spring travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Spring fashion.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have six foot drifts here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll do my best.
[UNKNOWN]: Gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're doing okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's spend a little time with our comments before we dive into us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to do that or do you want to do that?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, let's do comments because they always prompt fun conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's a comment from a number.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't actually know what their name is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, I hope this is one of their own number.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to keep it private just in case.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Shay, what can we do you use and how did you learn photography?
[SPEAKER_02]: Your images on sub-steck are beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love, beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love you ladies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been a listener for years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for what you put out into the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was very kind of you to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a fun question because I love my photography and sometimes I think about, if you were to strip away all these public pieces of UNI or all these pieces of us that are involved in work, sometimes I wonder what pieces would be left, what pieces of you exist that even if no one was ever there to see them, what would still be there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I first started learning photography when I was, gosh, young, early teen years.
[SPEAKER_02]: My mom had a Canon A.E.
[SPEAKER_02]: one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a film camera and she taught me how to shoot on it and then we would take the roles to film in to our camera store that we had at the time and get them developed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I loved the smell of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I loved the look of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I loved the anticipation of waiting for the film to come back and have been taking photographs ever since then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't obviously shoot on film anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do have a film camera, but that's not what I use for for production.
[SPEAKER_02]: I shoot on a Nikon now and let's see.
[SPEAKER_02]: I started on a Nikon D70 then I went to a Nikon D7,000 then a D850 and now what is my camera?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know what you should on anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: A Nikon Z9 is what I, it's a huge camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: It weighs like three and a half pounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: And every time I take it with me on some trip, I'm like, why do I have a camera this big?
[SPEAKER_02]: But I like the feeling of it in my hands.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know a lot of people now, they shoot a lot on phones and phones.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have nearly as big of a sensor as my camera, but
[SPEAKER_02]: but they're more convenient for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to me, my phone is like this place of noise and work and my camera, my big camera, it doesn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it doesn't stick pictures.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when I have it, I feel like naked in a soulful kind of a way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that feeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love that feeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: So photography primarily self-taught, read a few books, I've had some photography mentors in the past, taking a few photo trips, one-double area and one-to-spane and learned a lot through that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So trial and error, knowing what I like, I suppose.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're really committed to, or you have been in the past to, to skilling up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I think you've invested a lot of time and, yeah, and to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Prairie Townhouse.
[SPEAKER_04]: Been a listener since Spring 2021, I'm 37 and just had my first baby last year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now I'm just eating up all your advice to moms of littles as we are in a difficult season of living in a big one-room garage on a bare piece of property, low income and no house.
[UNKNOWN]: Woo!
[SPEAKER_04]: I would love to hear more about your experiences before getting settled in your current homes when times were tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think let's just recognize those are hard times and when you're in those times and people are not and they say to you, hey, you know, you will look back on this time in a precious kind of a way you want to punch them in the face.
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt that way.
[SPEAKER_04]: A big room on a buried piece of property, sounds kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's, you know, there's, here's the thing about mothering with littles, especially when times are tough.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're, and I tried better moments to lean into this.
[SPEAKER_04]: There is this like adventure aspect to it, which might sound silly, but whether you're having to get creative with groceries,
[SPEAKER_04]: or creative with making clothing last or whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: It does like channel something in you.
[SPEAKER_04]: It does bring to the surface what you're made of.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not to say there are not meltdowns involved and high stress because a lack of money is stressful.
[SPEAKER_04]: But on a personal level, there are interesting moments where you're like, oh, look at me, go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked the creativity aspect of my personality that came out when times were tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's kind of what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got half a can of beans and two tablespoons of butter, like, and zucchini.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we making for dinner?
[SPEAKER_02]: there's no way to duplicate that sort of creativity when times are easy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, there's just not.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think leaning into those pieces and kind of like the photography, this idea of like, skilling up.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a time before you're distracted with, you know, just working to pay a mortgage,
[SPEAKER_02]: fixing the paint or putting a new roof on, there is kind of this window when you're not settled into that life yet of skilling up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think when you do that inevitably, you sort of learn pieces of yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: In parts of your personality, start to develop or become more prominent.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a really beneficial thing to lean into.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, you end up anchoring your family to things that aren't worldly because you don't have those worldly things, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And so maybe you're not the family that has the big fancy SUV or goes out to eat every Friday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like those can't be your identity markers, but you're the family who takes a picnic to the river.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, every Saturday morning during the summertime or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I identify in your family in different ways that don't involve money, which does have lasting significance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, big time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you've you've actually you've proved these.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't you you lead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think we're all very nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angela was like, there was not one mean one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, please don't, please don't leave them.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, but please don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Kayla says, dear Shay and Anch, creating some Western Australia.
[SPEAKER_04]: First, listen to your podcast when it was three episodes in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so glad you missed those first, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wonderful.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: having just given birth to our third baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am now not far off from birthing our sixth baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations, Kayla.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've unknowingly walked me through so many seasons of life and have been such a source of comfort companionship and encouragement as I home school or five daughters on our isolated rural homestead.
[SPEAKER_04]: Choose your heart is often quoted by my husband and has been a game changer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Much love, Kayla.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Making our way all the way to the house.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's all the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Choose your heart best.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the best expression.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I doubt we came up with it.
[SPEAKER_04]: We come up with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we don't even.
[SPEAKER_02]: I No choose your heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's just totally froze rats.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, there you are.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a COVID Choose your heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Choose your heart.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, good
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it just came out in conversation when we were talking because we were saying no, I decided to somewhere that push pull.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I remember reading somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't remember where now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um, but yeah, doesn't that just ring true.
[SPEAKER_04]: For I'm sure it does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, both hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Living here, hard, living in Italy, also hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just choose, we'll get to that.
[SPEAKER_04]: He said that, no, I'm just kidding.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, okay, I love this one, crown in country because Laura Engels keeps coming up, which makes me so happy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Crown and Country said I really enjoyed two good to be altogether lost.
[SPEAKER_04]: I Pamela Smith Hill, it is about Laura Ingalls Wilder.
[SPEAKER_04]: The title comes from a personal letter she wrote.
[SPEAKER_04]: She began writing her books after her parents died.
[SPEAKER_04]: My paraphrase of her quote, my books are tribute to my parents because their stories are too good to be altogether lost.
[SPEAKER_04]: for a memoir I couldn't put it down.
[SPEAKER_04]: It makes me so happy because, silly me, I think I've read every extra book.
[SPEAKER_04]: There is to read about her and I've not heard of this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you, crowning country.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: My favorite one, the one I find most interesting, is the big one, the pioneer girl.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the annotated little house on the prairie series.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like a footnote festival.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so great.
[SPEAKER_04]: And somebody needs to make it like a real series on Netflix.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not a warm fuzzy, you know, the one from the 70s, 80s, but like the real deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just, somebody's got to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody needs to divorce Laura from this like perfect nostalgic.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just would love to see the real story told.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And a big enough production at the whole story could be told.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you can really trust people to tell stories anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I don't have to go to the other day and say to her just so you know you are most definitely not going to be watching the new weathering heights just so work clear because she's read it reading it I can't much different much different and I'm just thinking what are we doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we just making some little soft course stuff for our teen girls now what are we doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: we're just making up garbage from the starting with the casting.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a train wreck.
[SPEAKER_04]: I will not be watching it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, not having it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing about that dude says Heathcliff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Heathcliff at best is like this Romanian Turkish dark
[SPEAKER_04]: Harry, Gypsy, I mean, gosh, oh, I can't handle it, I can't handle it, nope, yay, the costumes, there aren't work, bully for you, okay, come up with your own story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's just it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like colored with your own story.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't want to tell the story that's fine, but just tell a different story then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Say inspired by weathering heights if you have to.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: The bronties, they're like summer salts in the grave.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't even.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shaley, Shaley.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shaley says, uh, hello.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love this question about change.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: What was our question?
[SPEAKER_02]: But we talked about things that we have changed about ourselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, pieces of our self that have changed on last week's episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and we did challenge people to like, really comment how they changed one area I see.
[SPEAKER_04]: One area of change I see in myself is kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: Angela, I've said so many times, I didn't think I'd enjoy motherhood this much.
[SPEAKER_04]: When we got married, we agreed on two to three kids and I'm kind of scared to tell my husband, I might want five or six now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ha!
[SPEAKER_04]: We're at two and I just convinced him on number three, kind of praying for twins.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love you, ladies.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can communicate the perfect balance of conviction and grace.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's generous.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is generous.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys don't know, 99% of the time when we get done, we stop the record button.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there were like, oh, that was awkward.
[SPEAKER_04]: We do.
[SPEAKER_04]: We kind of make noises.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, because we have to publish that, don't we?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, don't have time to record another.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this, though, Shaley.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what's funny?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember Stuart and I ever having the conversation about how many kids that we wanted or that we would have.
[SPEAKER_02]: We sort of just did the thing that gives you kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just count on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's one from Elizabeth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Catching up on the last few episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been a listeners in Saktobar 2021.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, just listening to you both is such a comfort today is day two of my fertility journey and she.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm eating some red meat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it about the stupid thing too, Elizabeth, that's what you need.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have a, I made beef car patchio on a YouTube video a couple weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: Explosion bombed this video.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not in a good way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, picture it like a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't go viral.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a ramen video and I was like, I know that people are going to have a problem with this but this is why I will never make it to the big time because I was like, I know that people don't like Rami Yeah, I was trying to hurt enough time with meat.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a hard enough time with me much less raw meat much less trusting themselves to prepare Rami this is something
[SPEAKER_02]: I've talked to my cooking community members about a lot over the years, but I wanted them to know, like, there is a way that people eat this is pub food.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is in Italy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just public in France, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do they call it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: And steak tartar steak tartar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, or other, other versions.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, I have a guest on my trip and, uh, Nadine, I know you're listening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Nadine.
[SPEAKER_04]: She, like, that she would try it at every restaurant we went to.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then finally, she talked into one at Los elects.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, this is it.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the best ones of our.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I see Carpachi also instead of being chopped up like a tartar, Carpachi was like cut really thin and then pounded really thin.
[SPEAKER_04]: What am I that's the only difference am I talking about the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not like hamburger meat like ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so that's a different way like it's usually like a full eye of something, but then they chopped it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not actually hamburger.
[SPEAKER_02]: They chop it up really, really, really, really, really fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it isn't okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like it's like a nice shows what I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I still try it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because there's a safety thing here.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is this is in poor the steak the cutting of the steak.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell a side of a stake is an anaerobic environment.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no oxygen in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there's no oxygen in there, bacteria cannot exist inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, so if you get a contaminated piece of meat, it's from something on the outside of the meat.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, now obviously we're only using super high quality meat, but there's a reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I talk about this in a video like, if you go to a butcher and you say, hey, I want to make beef carpete carpeteal.
[SPEAKER_02]: That means you have to get a piece of steak that
[SPEAKER_02]: like metal needles because they'll like use this machine to poke inside the meat to make it fake tender and it's at or it's at or a fake tender it is she's fake but I don't know it's to me and what we'll talk about this little bit say we wanted to talk about travel a little bit I like some of the breaking of the cultural norms and just being like oh like you can open your eyes to other things
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember the moment I realized that I was an adult and I remember being like, huh, there's other things out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's other things out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's other, like, ways of life, other foods, other people, other beliefs.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that about the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, each red meat get a curl.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay, following the tulips says listening to your girls while having breakfast with my 18 month old twin babbly in the back
[SPEAKER_04]: Speaking, Lord knows what, awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for being my companion.
[SPEAKER_04]: Motherhood can get lonely sometimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: On another topic, I wanted to ask if you have tried rebounding as an alternative exercise.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know that Jennifer Elskat is an advocate of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking for something that gets the job done.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't lead me panting like a horse after a long race.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have a rebounding, yeah?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the two things I can foresee back in my major world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think it's great do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have when I got pregnant with Georgia my first something happened to my equilibrium.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember trying I tried to get on a swing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like fell off backwards just fell off the sink.
[SPEAKER_02]: The swing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you serious?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a real problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have, I'm not afraid of heights, but okay, I completely lose my like ability to stand.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very strange and it happened as soon as I got pregnant and it's just never come back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when I do something that really jars.
[SPEAKER_02]: My Yeah, friends around my sister whatever is going on in there, what do I do something that jars it like I will just fall over.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I tried to jump on my friend Amber's trampoline and
[SPEAKER_02]: almost came out of my skin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just like, my mind with, I don't know if I've ever had vertical, like, I don't know if it's vertical.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's the word for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you completely lose all sense of direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I don't jump.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I can do jump in Jack's, I do those.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I can't.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, okay, but I have a rebounder.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a rebounder.
[SPEAKER_04]: I find it so unbelievably boring.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's so good for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: First of all, I have pelvic floor issues, six children, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's not my favorite to tend to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, it's not my favorite thing to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_04]: My mom is a crazy rebounder.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's full on addicted every day.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's worse by it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm a walker idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Flushing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a walker.
[SPEAKER_04]: I walk with a way to invest.
[SPEAKER_04]: I walk on an incline with a way to invest and then a few times a week I do like 30 seconds sprint during that walk.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I prefer to walk outside, but that doesn't that won't happen for probably another 45 days.
[SPEAKER_04]: 45.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, unless, you know, you got to be in the frame of mind to go start your walk when it's 38 degrees.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be a hot minute.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fair enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I do love my best.
[SPEAKER_02]: I told Angela and our little call this morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, my motivation for working out right now is 0.5% out of 100.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's low, it is very low.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um, there were quite a few more comments, but I think we should, I think we should talk and then if we have some time at the end, then we can touch on some more of these.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well, here's one about travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: If we're going to talk about travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's close with Miss Margot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Mrs. Margot.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm 44 years old.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yes, I did fan girl scream in my car when you read my comment.
[SPEAKER_04]: So scream again, Margot, because we're reading it again, while she's leping four kids to a homeschooling in high school infomating.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, homeschooling in high school, oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_04]: What changes have y'all observed in your guest at the end of your trips to Italy and France, and how have the trips changed you?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm hoping to join a trip one day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for your podcast and squeezing this blessing in between Latin, dinner, and pulling weights.
[SPEAKER_04]: like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the end of my trips, we have this, we don't you start for the back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because not everyone's connected, we forget not everyone's connected to all the pieces of what we do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, where am I starting?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just that you do trips and where you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's been about three and a half year.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is my fourth year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And twice a year, I take women to France.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we meet up in Paris and spend the week there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And my goal.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like there's many beautiful things to see in France.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I will be expanding.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've already expanded to prevent.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing about the city is I know it intimidates some women.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I wanted to help women feel comfortable in this place that's like this sort of cliche dream for so many women.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to help them feel like they could do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so we meet and I teach them how to use the metro.
[SPEAKER_04]: I teach them some cultural tips so they can have a great experience with the French because the French are on the whole really great despite maybe what
[SPEAKER_04]: And we hit the flea markets because that's sort of what I'm known for as loving antiques and oil paintings and copper and I introduce them to my favorite antique dealers and we go out for dinner and I force them air quotes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Force them to try foods they would never typically try like us car go or what have you.
[SPEAKER_04]: My first trip was women.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was not opposed to husbands coming along, but what happened as far as to Miss Margo's question about what have I observed in guests at the end of the trip.
[SPEAKER_04]: What happened at the end of my first trip was this like crazy estrogen touchy feeling I needed this I didn't know I needed this.
[SPEAKER_04]: crying, hugging, I've made a friend, I've made friends for life and I'm saying I, but I mean, this is what was coming from each guest.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was not at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was not expecting that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what it gave me a window to was how women are looking to cultivate relationships and friendships.
[SPEAKER_04]: and how for some women life has been so busy or there's been loss involved or they're in a new chapter of life and they need new friends for that chapter.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just saw this huge need so I sort of just
[SPEAKER_04]: quietly stopped using husband couple language in my trips and started talking about them being women's trips.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not opposed to doing a couple's trip in the future, but I just my heart is really towards this experience for women and helping them feel comfortable in this place of their dreams because it's a city and it can be intimidating.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what I've seen is women leave
[SPEAKER_04]: And I use WhatsApp for like a group text, for example, the WhatsApp groups are still active.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, people are still getting together throughout the country.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm going to be near your city.
[SPEAKER_04]: We should hook up.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been really, really beautiful and
[SPEAKER_04]: Many of my guests have come back on trips with me and many of them got the confidence they needed to go to other cities on their own or go back to Paris on their own.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just so cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's exactly what I wanted.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've said this so many times, but the best part about travel does not matter where you go is that you never come back the same person.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going in with any kind of like meaningful posture, right, you don't come back the same person.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that's what's powerful
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a really, I don't know, that's a really powerful piece of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I talked to folks in my church years ago, and they had gone to Italy, and they said they didn't have any good food.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was like, what do you mean me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, what do you mean me?
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't have any good food.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they had just,
[SPEAKER_02]: sort of done what people do when they go to Italy because it's kind of like Paris.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are people going to do when they go to Paris?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to go see the Arc de Triomphe, Triomphe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the Ivaltower, and the Mona Lisa, and them exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: People do the same thing in Italy, especially a mayor.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not that those things are bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, those things are great, but if you go see David or you go see the you feed see or you go see the Coliseum or you whatever you go see the Vatican you are going to get a very particular flavor of Italy and it's
[SPEAKER_02]: messy and busy and dirty and aggressive and really targeted for tourists.
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe I've told you the story but I did it the first time I went to Italy and I was just a young and didn't know anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was way before Google Translate or Google Maps or Visa's working or cell phones or anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you have the little black and white fold out, those little black and white maps?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, you just have a map.
[SPEAKER_04]: Get them at the bookstore, those little tiny ones that they were the size of a credit card, and then you would just open it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: According to the amount, we landed in Paris.
[SPEAKER_02]: We landed in Charles to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd never been anywhere except for Mexico before.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we land in this big city with my big pack because I'm back packing through France and Italy and Spain and I have to figure out the Paris Metro system like that moment in order to get to our hostel and I just remember you want to talk about being intimidated Paris Paris left me.
[SPEAKER_02]: in a state there were so many eye-opening moments from that trip like we went to Rowan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's actually how you say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: My friend just got in so much worse since studying Italian more.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know I've told you this story but we were staying in the this beautiful
[SPEAKER_02]: hotel and it was overlooking the courtyard where Joan of Arc was burned at the stake.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so my travel companion, huge Joan of Arc fan was like, we hop, we're gonna go stay in this village.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we do, we shop it there, we're staying in this hotel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I look down in the morning and think, oh my gosh, this is this magical European place.
[SPEAKER_02]: My brain is exploding from the beauty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what you're gonna say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen anything like this before.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm from the West Coast, like the new of the new of the new.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know places like this could exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm beside myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: The sun's coming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had just walked down to a bakery and got in a croissant with chocolate, pineapple chocolate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to hate using French words around Angela's.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just smile graciously, Shay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I look out my window and there's a guy just peeing on the...
[SPEAKER_04]: I knew you were going to say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just minding it, like not in the corner, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like on, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just thought,
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I understand the world as well, but I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world as well, I think I don't understand the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand the world.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand the
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, well, you know, you have to delete the photo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then they got really aggressive, really mean about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they stood there on my digital camera and watched me delete the photo.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they walked away like saying all this nasty stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I realized in that moment, like, there's a way to visit a place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's a way to experience a place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's absolutely true.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that you shouldn't go see the Coliseum.
[SPEAKER_02]: You absolutely should.
[SPEAKER_02]: But.
[SPEAKER_02]: The experience of traveling can be so significantly different than just hitting these tourist hot spots.
[SPEAKER_02]: do and I don't really travel that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just move slower than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We like to just kind of be wallflowers and sink back in and watch things, watch the way that they move, watch the local people stay put a little bit, kind of get the feelings of the place down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that, sorry, my dogs on my court.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that was kind of the intention that we that we decided to set up our Italy trips with, so, um, Stu and I went in 2000, he, him and I had both been to Italy before, but we ended up going in 2018 with Jovia, like I'd mentioned earlier, and that trip really,
[SPEAKER_02]: changed things for us because it was like experiencing this kind of rural Italy that was really outside of Venice and Florence and Rome in these places that we'd been but that hadn't quite matched up with who we are as people.
[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, that was kind of this idea with our trips to Italy
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't think about anything, like your pair of strips.
[SPEAKER_02]: Women just show up and you get to say, okay, today we're gonna do it, which is really great because it's like a highlight reel for a trip.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and that's kind of what we experienced when we went to Tuscanny with Joveel and that was really, really impactful.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember you weren't even a baker before that trip.
[SPEAKER_04]: not in that same way, your words were, I'm not a baker once on the phone before that trip.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it changed me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it really changed me.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you can look back and you can see kind of the Lego pieces all coming together.
[SPEAKER_02]: The puzzle pieces the way that they build and looking back back, those have been there for a really long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But getting it being a part now on the other side, like having had that experience, studying the language is spending time with the people, finding your places that you wanna share with guests, et cetera, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_02]: To be able to provide that for somebody else, it feels like you're giving them this incredible gift.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I know your women are gonna be talking about their parish trips.
[SPEAKER_02]: 10 years from now, they're gonna be telling stories
[SPEAKER_02]: You just don't come back the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So your parish trips, the one you're doing in October, is that to Paris or Prophonse?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's four days, I think four days in each.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys know where she goes?
[SPEAKER_02]: When she goes to Prophonse?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell them, they go to the winery where a good year was filmed.
[SPEAKER_02]: They go to the good year house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we do and the town.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we had all the sites where they have the date we go to the big area.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did they go to the fountain where he's like sitting with the wine glasses in his hand?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's our town.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the villa.
[SPEAKER_04]: The villa is like at the base of that town.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then we go what I loved.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just so empty.
[SPEAKER_04]: We just had the whole area to ourselves last fall.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know where they go on their date and there's like that big pool and the band is playing and then it rains like we go there.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, you just see it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a charming little town.
[SPEAKER_04]: We just have a cup of coffee and yeah, yes, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, okay, it's interesting because you obviously have an affinity for the French culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you been to other, I don't know, I don't, genuinely think I know the answer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever been to other countries in Europe besides France?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not why I've been to England, but I've been to England.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I, there's other places I really want to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever been somewhere like culturally where you don't feel that same affinity, bore the culture?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like have you ever gone to, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever gone to like Jamaica or something?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, let's see, so no, I've been to St. Martin, okay, so, I mean, that was island culture.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could do me some island culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time I go there and stare at it, I'm like, I guess we're moving to the Caribbean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this is now my life.
[SPEAKER_04]: Give me some turquoise water and some bogan Velia.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll do this up in a colato.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The florist like I mean hotel rooms up to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious the women who come on your trip do all of them share that same affinity for France or
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it just an affinity for perspective, experience, enjoyment, courage, and that's a good question.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a combination, usually on each trip, there's one Franco-File.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
[SPEAKER_04]: One, if not two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Really into it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've been before.
[SPEAKER_04]: They love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or it's been 20.
[SPEAKER_04]: They went once and they love, you know, they have schoolgirl French and they want to go back.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then there's a handful of my guests that are extremely well-traveled.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I see this in the group text.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm in Portugal this week with my aunt.
[SPEAKER_04]: And
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, they're very well-traveled.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then there's noobs.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've, there's homeschool moms.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've never left the country.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is their first time doing anything just totally pure.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, so, yeah, a little bit of, like, all three.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was talking to a woman on our trip.
[SPEAKER_02]: She came with her husband and she was telling me about a trip that her and Nathan had taken to Scotland.
[SPEAKER_02]: and how she had gone, they'd gone with another family and really what she had planned out this trip and the visits to the castles and all the activities that they were gonna do and put this trip together and it just a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shared with me that her heart plate, this was her heart place, Scotland.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this was her heart place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I'm sure some of you have feeling that feeling,
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't had it for everywhere I've been the only place I've had it is Italy and I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like not civil or like I mean, I know you've been your travel, you've been to a lot of places.
[SPEAKER_02]: Spain.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Spain, but and I I love it, especially southern Spain, but there is something about different that hits particular people about particular places.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I was telling Angela's story just a few days ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it was today, I don't even remember, but on one of my trips I ended up on Lake Cuomo on the edge of the lake and I was just standing there looking at it and just weeping and I was too like what I was like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: least in my travel experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to have that doesn't have to be your heart place when you travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just want to go places and do I want to have
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so like for example, I take the ladies to my favorite restaurant and I introduce them to my waiters and they're like they feel like they're in, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: So I like I want to go to Scotland really bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's other places I want to go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have no desire to feel like a tourist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm going to stay long enough that I can go to the same cafe three or four times and go like, oh, we're getting at that face.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, or you know, that's my hang up is that I want to feel in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that takes like time and devotion planning and the small village where we take people.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's part of the one ways you get in is a you have to be unapologetic and I think that's one of those things that got it goes on behind the scenes that you don't see is you and I are planning these trips like there's many moments where you're kind of just throwing yourself on the vulnerable sword like well let's see if this works right let's see if this works so one of the things that we do.
[SPEAKER_02]: because we go to this wine region in Montipulchano and there's a family there who's been making wine in this home for a thousand years.
[SPEAKER_02]: So cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we took our guests there.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them holding you aside and was like, okay, this guy with this last name just gave us a tour.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the name of the one, like how do you get this guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: How does he, how is he the one that's taking you up into his like, names on the bottom of it room?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how is he doing your tour?
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you?
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you get this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was through a friend of a friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just me being vulnerable and saying to these people here's what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's what I want to bring to these people.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they say, okay, and Italy, you got it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have a guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And eventually, if you do that enough times, you land somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that takes time to develop.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't just travel someplace and just book something like that kind of travel takes time and it takes commitment to a particular place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even somewhere like Scotland, I imagine where the language isn't a, well, it could be a barrier.
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be, it could be slightly
[SPEAKER_02]: My family wants to go to Scotland so bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: So bad, bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't like, I want to rent a car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to just cruise around.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to wear wallys and, yeah, like, a fox.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm the hills.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't exactly, you know, my queen Elizabeth Hanky, I don't remember my hair.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is part of the fun of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You better dress the park.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're coming to Italy in the summer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want sunglasses.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want scarves of your hair.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want just the drills.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want market baskets.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like that's part of the jazz of it all.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, everybody, you know, a lot of women will say, because I find airmez scarves at the flea market, you know, for good, good deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I will ask each person, not everybody goes to all three flea markets, but I will say, is there anything in particular you're looking for?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that I can keep my eyes out, you know, for and so many people, it's just find me a scarf.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just find me a scarf.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you only need like one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you have a lot more than one book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these pieces of their lifetime pieces.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and my favorite thing when I travel is to collect the little things Coasters Coasters and match boxes jewelry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love collecting jewelry even if it's just costume jewelry from places because you'll every time you put it on you think oh, yeah I bought that here or here or here and it becomes
[SPEAKER_02]: becomes part of this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's such a magical part of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a magical part of life to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: That particular type of travel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, there's a different, okay, so you took your kids to Disney world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gosh, yes, I want to say we were a years ago, but it felt it's like probably it was no it was right before we started the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were like the last train out before COVID.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, they closed the gates behind us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's like a very fundamentally different type of travel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, where where the the amusement is the thing you're going for.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you know what I mean, we feels like this trip like that with the kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we just, you know, I didn't was getting older and I just thought, oh my gosh, we got to have just, I was raised on Disney.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to do this just obligatory American thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember now.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like so long ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I would have, you know, we broke the bank to just go for four or five days and then we went on to family's house.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, if you're going to do it, do it right, I would have done things different if I could have.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's just,
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how they charge.
[SPEAKER_04]: They charge.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how anyone is supposed to afford to do that and now I understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a big family two hotel rooms.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know like it's if you had two kids like go now
[SPEAKER_04]: before you have more, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I find like all that so much more expensive than travel to Europe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm trying to find a vehicle and I'm going to find a vehicle from California or somewhere that's warm.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to rest a vehicle.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get a used vehicle.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want any rust on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just looking like it inter flights one way and then I'm going to drive back.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're more than, they're more than going to France.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you just, you can go to France for cheaper with a small, like, it's just a carry on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then you can a one-way flight in the United States.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's shocking, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So then if you look at, like, a park hopper pass for, you know, 895 dollars just for one kid, I'm kidding.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Disney is a very expensive.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm glad we did it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, um.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'd like to do it one more time.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the younger ones can have, I'd like to do it one more time, but we have ended up over the year spending the majority of our travel budget on going to see stews family.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure we don't go on vacation.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just, we go see family when we can.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got, we've got family in North Carolina and Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, Stu and I have done this before where we've taken a map of the United States, put it over Europe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm from Washington State.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's from Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be the equivalent in Europe of me being from Ireland and him being from Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, for real.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the distance.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the distance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wish that we could.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish that we could, you know, see them more.
[SPEAKER_02]: but it's part of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully actually I think my mother-in-law and her husband are actually gonna come to Italy with us in October or September.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm getting our Trumps confused.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that will be something.
[SPEAKER_02]: That'll be a special thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I think after our guests leave, my brother-in-law is also gonna come.
[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't been to here before.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it is the way to do it if you haven't been before.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like have somebody take you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have Angela take you have me take you or have somebody you somebody take you so that There's a reason for example when people go to Disney they hire like a Disney consultant My aunt is a Disney.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's like that's all she does is help families can Disney vacations this for all it's worth so that every meal is extraordinary And no time is wasted and all the activities are the best of the best so that so that you're not just standing in line
[SPEAKER_02]: Not knowing where you're going to eat, not knowing how to get to your hotel, et cetera, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that, that is wasteful.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that wiringary sounds so cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: That experience for Angela.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is your favorite thing I know I do there with me?
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is your favorite thing that you do with your guess?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, or what do you, I mean, you've done, okay, when we, when we took the kids to this village last year, we went with the intention of knowing that we were
[SPEAKER_02]: invest in a place.
[SPEAKER_02]: We wanted essentially like a home away from home in Italy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we went with the intention to be vulnerable to put ourselves out there in the community, etc.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first night we land in Rome, we have a driver who takes us, it's like a two-hour drive from Rome.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're toasted at this point because we've had this like weird extended layover in Iceland, sorry, Iceland, not a fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we finally get to where we're going, the kids feel ill, we've missed
[SPEAKER_02]: we get to our home that we've rented and we drop all of our bags, we're starving.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we start walking down and we go to this village.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's bricks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's this medieval village.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all bricks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're walking down these alleyways and we're walking like away from the city lights and I'm like stew.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm following stew.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stew is like a bloodhound.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has his nose up in the air and he's just like
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like sniffing out food, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the, I'm like getting really angry because I am, I'm not angry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, well, I am really hungry.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, it's a small village, like all the lights are this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are you going?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he, this goes on for maybe like five minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: He sniffed, he, he follows his nose to a door, no sign, no light, no nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He opens the door, I was like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's house, like, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: But he was so focused on this smell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Turns out, it's a teeny little restaurant that seats about 15 people.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't tell you the name, you have to come to Italy with me to come to this place.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we walk in and it's like a Tuesday night where the only people there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the restaurant owner is also the server in every end of cook, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's everything and so we end up talking with him the whole night and so sweet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember Owen Owen wanted a hamburger, which what they did have on the menu.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this special kind of Italian beef.
[SPEAKER_02]: called Kianina.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Owen's eating it, but it's an Italian hamburger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they do their best, but come on, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, from America.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it was really cute.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Owen, he ends up falling asleep at the table.
[SPEAKER_02]: He eats like half his burger and then he falls asleep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Christian comes up to him and he gets down by his face and he's like, he was all like the epic.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I make it so he would like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can make it so we'd like it, like, just die.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like the most, and we take people there on the first night of our trip because I love telling a story and Christian has become this really sweet friend and a foundational part of our time in the village.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just this, you can't really describe a restaurant like this too in American.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the equivalent will be like a hole in a wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: but if the hole in the wall is like, Michelin quality, and it's spectacular.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just to me, it's like, when I sit in that restaurant, it's like, I'm home, which doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I am, it's a really special place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is yours?
[SPEAKER_04]: The favorite thing I do with them?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Ooh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's see.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's two things I guess I would have to have to do that are kind of different.
[SPEAKER_04]: We moneys house and Garth Geverney is not a part of our trip officially, but almost everybody ends up wanting to go.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we've got one day where we have this perfect pocket of time.
[SPEAKER_04]: And
[SPEAKER_04]: that tends to be like the most emotional, uh, because that's a dream for a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's something about that place that is just, it gets you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even if you didn't know you wanted to go with some people just kind of go along for the ride.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, so I love that for them.
[SPEAKER_04]: As the hostess, I have the most fun taking them to, there's a big flea market called Santua.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's huge.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really intimidating.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have an art dealer there and I take them and he rolls out the red carpet.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just, you know, it's little as places like maybe the size of my kitchen and his wife makes pastry and first he serves us espresso and then he serves a champagne he likes us keep all our bags there while we shop the rest of the market he gives like a really just a kill her discount and it just it's just like this cart blanche treatment it's just I love that for them everybody feels like really like look at us, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a really important piece of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, we all are making it different stages.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you and I have run the gamut of all the different stages.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are like root pieces that go down in all these different stages.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just like we were answering that question before that comment before this like,
[SPEAKER_02]: how do you and and that changes you know it changes in life like there would have been a day where you telling that story about having this art dealer contact in Paris who gives you champagne and you know holds your bags for you like that's just wild
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she and I, if you don't know this, she and I each had vehicles that were duct taped mine was duct tape so that the door wouldn't slide door wouldn't yeah, it was awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mine was the window or something I didn't, it wouldn't stay in place.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, no, it's just it's different levels of things I wish now.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I spent time in France, I wish I would have been able to have hindsight and looked, been able to see it with this is going to be a part of your world in a different way.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just do, you don't, you can't have that kind of perspective when you're experiencing something like this for the first time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there is something, it's not isolated to travel, but there's something about travel.
[SPEAKER_02]: that helps the homemaker, it helps me, I think it helps you as well, to kind of like pull out of your circumstance for a moment, to see things with this different view, to see home in a different way, to see the world in a different way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember the first time I was there and I just watched people, the way they dressed, the way that they moved themselves, the way it was just like
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the way that they would speak with one another, the coffee culture or the cigarette culture, whatever it is, whatever I don't know, there's just something so refreshing about it, that helps you to come back home in a better way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I always come here and I think it doesn't have to be as big as that either.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, you know, even as a homemaker, just for me to get out of here and go to my mom's.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, for the weekend and look at the way my mom does XYZ.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I forgot.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could try that or and and just like you said pulling out of your situation and letting your brain rest and your to do list rest and yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, getting out, just getting out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Stu said to me other days, that what do you want to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I want to get a coffee.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, we'll make one because they're too expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll make a, I want to go for a drive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go up into the mountains and like even just that to be able to look.
[SPEAKER_04]: We used to always do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just to feel like got to get out of the house for a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got to get my bearings a little bit got to be reminded like, hey, look to eat all this you're fine, you just need to unload the dishwasher.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, couldn't it be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be fine and honestly.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels really special to be able to do these trips.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we primarily take couples, although we do have some single travelers coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels really special to be on this path going forward when you and I get to reach each other, we get to reach people in a real way here through the podcast because it's just unfiltered talking time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, unless one of us hacks something up, this is just completely unedited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's something about those trips to that just feels honest in this world of like influence and algorithms and AI and all this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's getting older, but I just want all of that shoved aside.
[SPEAKER_04]: give me something real, the human interaction to go from someone who's been talking to people and showing pictures and talking maybe at people, like on YouTube, and stuff for so many years to go and even just be vulnerable with people like, look, this is what I look like, this is how tall I am, this is how much I weigh in real life, this is me, like this is just me,
[SPEAKER_04]: I had this moment in this humanity, the humanness of it and just being up to actually connect with someone, not just read a context, I really, it's so different, I love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so different.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have another one in like five weeks and I'm gonna meet.
[SPEAKER_04]: half of them are like repeats, that must be doing something right because I got a lot of repeat guests.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you know, just to see them again, it's always really exciting and then meet new people.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've lady coming.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've, you know, we've got Australia comments here of a lady coming from Australia.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't wait to meet her.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the human aspect.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had this moment where Stu made me really laugh hard when we were on our one in October, and I snorted.
[SPEAKER_02]: I laughed so hard, I snorted.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of my guests, it made them laugh.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, did you just snort?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, when I laugh really loud, I snort.
[SPEAKER_02]: In Italian.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right, wasn't Italian in the North.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are certain things that we know about the future, you know, where mothers or homemakers home is super important to us.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're gardeners, whether or not the cameras are here or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're mothers, we're wives, we're cooks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We want to eat like all these pieces of ourselves that exist, whether we're online or not, but it feels right to be pursuing a piece of a future that involves real face time with people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: That just feels... Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see the sun?
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like gold gold.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're getting like yellow.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always say the air is golden in Rome.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like literally.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's something about the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like... Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Renaissance tinted.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, there's gold particles in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this is confidential right now, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is my 10th year of gold.
[SPEAKER_04]: Lovely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look at that comment.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, shaped a whole podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Ms. White.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, what do you were wanting?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that your question?
[SPEAKER_02]: What were we supposed to talk about today?
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, Ms. Margot.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, well, and let's do one half of a room left in October.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this is true.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, we're so we're September 23rd to October 1st or 2nd.
[SPEAKER_04]: We start in Paris.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then we're going to take the TJV south to province to our
[SPEAKER_04]: villa.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I have, um, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have half a double occupancy.
[SPEAKER_04]: If that's not your thing, I can arrange for you to have your own room in Paris.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can work that out, but you will need to have a roommate in the villa because it's a house.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you, your trip is when my trip is October 7th through the 13th.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to Umria.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can fly into Florence or Rome.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about halfway between both.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one knows where Umria is.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's part of the point.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it sounds cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's next door to Tuscany.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's next door to Tuscany.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, you're getting, you're right in the middle of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's centrally, it'll tick the boxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: She promise.
[SPEAKER_02]: I promise you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It will tick your boxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we still have two rooms available.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I guess I'll just put information to both of our trips down below if people want to join us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a big part I think of of the future of what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I think it's a really special piece of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like talking with people, not at people.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a nice aspect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every all my guests have been listeners to the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, that's great, unless they brought a friend, you know, it's like, hey, go on this, I follow this girl, go on this trip with me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, ladies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess thanks for hanging out with us for today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was, you can't come with us to Europe.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have a little bit of a warm fuzzy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, if you can't go on to drive, get out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Go to a new restaurant you've never tried before.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, you know, show you really when you said that, like, maybe we're the family that goes on a picnic.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just took me right back to some places I used to take my kids and we were little just.
[SPEAKER_04]: as ritual just to get out of the house, and it was so just romantic and special.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that just took me right back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I used to go to the car wash every Friday.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not talking about the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's that was you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Less to my life sound, I'll pop, and look, trees.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about like, these paths we used to go walk on around this lake and, you know, we would collect seed pods and my frogs and, yeah, love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that place of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very, very short and very, very special.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, ladies, thanks for joining us.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll chat next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cheers.