[SPEAKER_05]: What is up everybody?
[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the stack.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Alex.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Justin.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Pete and on the stack we talk about a ton of books that have come out this week And oh, boy, this was a big Wednesday for comics, so let's first take off the dough
[SPEAKER_05]: this really went to the next level.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got to say, which is why we're kicking things off with the first of three DC next level titles, logo number one from DC Comics written by Scott Young, art by Jorge Corona.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now the rough idea here is these take place in continuity, but they're trying to give the same on-rab that the absolute books take, which is
[SPEAKER_05]: not ignoring continuity, but giving new reader friendly takes from teams that are hopefully very passionate about the books.
[SPEAKER_05]: They may not be top tier characters.
[SPEAKER_05]: They may be top tier characters.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: But again, we're talking about three of them here that came out on the same day.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the first of them is Lobo Pete.
[SPEAKER_05]: You love this version of Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you thinking?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, don't jump on justice.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one's in space.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I just want to take a moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fun cover.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's exciting when you're like just about to crack open a comic about a character you love.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, maybe this is a comic.
[SPEAKER_05]: I call comics a cool one.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like to crack open a cool one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing crackin' a cool one, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just think there's something exciting about what's it gonna be, what's goin' on, and I think this cover does such a great job of setting up the madness that is inside.
[SPEAKER_05]: And just sitting down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a low-boost sitting, but talking about the art style, guys, the funnest record.
[SPEAKER_00]: That the art style brings the vibe, the, this is madness.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this crazy gun that has a knife on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, great.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you read beyond the cover or did you not crack open this cold one?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I cracked it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was the little disappointed that the first joke was about dog piss, but after that, I mean, we were, we were having a great time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, is that because of what we call the dog piss incident?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, the plot of this book is Lobo is on a job.
[SPEAKER_05]: Unfortunately, he gets interrupted when every single mercenary in the universe has the contracts bought out by, I would say, a mojo type character.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, there's a lot of refs in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and I should clarify, just to say, like, I keep 23 like ice cold beers in my fridge and one ice cold bottle of
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[SPEAKER_05]: really nicely as a writer, particularly leading into profane and violent stuff with his big hit, I hate fairyland, Jorge Corona.
[SPEAKER_05]: They've worked on more serious stuff in the past, so it's interesting to see them on comedy, but Jorge Corona certainly has made a name for himself working on Transformers, and also there was the was it Jurassic League was the thing that he did, which we're the Jurassic Jurassic.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Justice League was all dinosaurs,
[SPEAKER_05]: So this is a natural fit for both of them.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like the place where this ends up.
[SPEAKER_05]: It does feel a little meandery to me as it gets there, which maybe is kind of the point, like it's a little bit of a shaggy dog thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: But like Pete said,
[SPEAKER_05]: for a quote as art is very striking lobe of particular is right at the center there are some good jokes of the route particularly as lobe is laying out his history I thought that was a lot of fun that sequence just in what did you think.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, I would just to talk about next level, another we're getting into that and we'll talk about a few books like Alex said, it's interesting because the next level feels like it's like a refresh take or like pushing the character forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I think for all of the books we're going to talk about, it's actually not that it's a return to form, the previous iteration where they made a new logo who was like,
[SPEAKER_02]: sort of Tweet Lobo was more of a next level idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is very much like looking back, going back to the origins of Lobo, which despite Alex's criticism, it's actually what that was.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a little meandery.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a shaggy dog story of Lobo just like fucking around in space and then killing people on his bike.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this to me feels like a great new version of that
[SPEAKER_02]: and that the next level may not be a description of the stories we're getting here but more like bringing the next level talent that has been on their way up outside of DC into DC and giving them these characters that mean something to them and that I think is a very smart way to approach this like sort of event.
[SPEAKER_02]: because it means each individual book can rise on its own, become what it wants to be, and that's what I think this book and the out spoiler for my reviews in a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: The rest are also doing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a cool way to say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate what you're doing there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think this is a nice return to form and a kind of a great team to kind of bring this up to another level.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I am excited and I enjoyed the fun, you know, like, oh, I can park here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oops, I ripped your arm off and then wrote my name above the parking spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just, that's fun, you know, that's a peat dream.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I deal with drink.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like this is this is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having a great time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's a blast
[SPEAKER_05]: I like what you're had to say about this Justin and sort of this whole branding here because I think the other thing that they are clearly bringing and even if this isn't necessarily to my taste, it doesn't look like anything else on the stands because of Jorge Corona's art.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's something that everybody is applauding absolute for, a lot of the DC all-in titles that it doesn't feel like it's turning out content, but it's not just there to turn out content.
[SPEAKER_05]: they are trying to make something that feels fresh and different and unique from other things that are out on the comic book stands.
[SPEAKER_05]: And again, to like you did, I will spoil my thoughts at all three of these, they all look different, they all feel different and they don't look or feel like anything else that we're reading.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had Tony Flee's the writer of the desktop book we're going to talk about on the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said that when he was talking to DC, it was like, what's your image comics version of DC character?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that's literally what they're doing here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is a badass move.
[SPEAKER_02]: It continues DC editorial just choices where I'm like big swing after big swing that actually keeps working.
[SPEAKER_02]: On comic book club news this week, Alex broke down
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and DC had what?
[SPEAKER_02]: 17 of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, or something crazy?
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's working.
[SPEAKER_02]: That level of creative swing is working.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what James Gun talks about what they're trying to do with the movies that obviously takes a lot longer.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're actually doing it in the DC comics right now, and it is working so hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's see if Marvel is working as well as we turn to our next title, the ultimate number 22 from Marvel by Tettis Camp, art by Juan Fergari, as we have been tying into the ultimate end game event to the world as we're belly against the maker status quo.
[SPEAKER_05]: Here we dive back into the relationship between Captain America and Bucky, who is the grand skull, the new red skull in this universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just a new love, uh, a campaign.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dennis continues to menace me with excellent comic books, uh, because, uh, or Dennis menaces me with another great issue, this is, the fact that the ultimate universe is ending, this is a comic I'm going to miss the most, and this feels the most alive that the ultimate universe has been,
[SPEAKER_02]: Since this new event the reboot kicked off like this feels like it is issues four of an ultimate book that is just getting going great issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the R in this issue is really nice
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the story we get like a type of format we've seen before where two characters end up on up are very close and end up on opposite sides of good and evil.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we get like there's that modern twist on it where it's about radicalization and falling through the cracks and how that turns you into places you don't expect to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not bad to begin with the world left him behind
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just another great story that continues to be both the president and excellent comic book work.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really awesome, Justin, I'm glad that you're having fun with this and it's reaching you in that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to, what I'm about to say, affect anything that Justin said because that's all valid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be so mad and I'm going to be so disappointed in you if you say anything bad about this coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, this so mad, I'm going to go drink a whole cold bottle of something out of my friend.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't want to jump on what you're about to say, Pete, but I really love the way this inspired me to be a Nazi.
[SPEAKER_05]: Go ahead, what were you going to say?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this made me want to pick up my tent and leave the campground because, fuck all this, I don't need this comic at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: In my life, this was an awful idea and very well executed, but I, that, no, no to that ending.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to live here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you're talking about Bucky, the Bucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see a comic book Captain America snaps Bucky's neck, bro.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not something I ever want to experience or ever want to have, you know, just because that's uh, you like when cap kills the red skull.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's what you did, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we don't know that he snapped his neck and like in a bad way.
[SPEAKER_05]: It could have been like working at a cake.
[SPEAKER_00]: worked out the old Nazi bone yeah I just uh it was too heartbreaking man I don't like to see Captain America as uh you know I'm the bad side and I don't like to see Bucky there either so this was a nightmare scenario from the bad side he's putting him back on his misery yeah well whether it's fucking of mice of men moment or whatever have you ever
[SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever talked to an old person on Facebook?
[SPEAKER_05]: Have you kind of wanted to snap their jacket a little bit?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Peace.
[SPEAKER_02]: Glad to see you in that country.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you're putting down a couple of oldies.
[SPEAKER_05]: Gorgeous heart in this issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: I am really curious to see what it is called.
[SPEAKER_05]: As we head towards the ending here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's move on and talk about GI Joe number 20 from Skybout at Average Comics, written by Joshua Williamson, art by Andrea Milana.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lots of stuff going on here, but the main event is that Optimus Prime meets Duke and Optimus.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not too hard to hide.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, excuse me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it's octopus Prime.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no prime, no mark, oh my god, you're just out to this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I will say, and this is a spoiler for Transformers, where he has lost his little face plate now you can see his mouth.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's funny that on the cover they're like, we're not going to spoil that, he still has his face plate, and then you open the issue you're like, no, he has a mouth.
[SPEAKER_02]: See, but the idea that the leader of the Transformers has to hide is his or her face.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are they ashamed of?
[SPEAKER_02]: They ashamed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as a follow-up question, do you think Duke should hide his face?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, nice little, you know, just so he doesn't feel like, you know, optimist is alone, you know, he's doing it in solidarity.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: If Duke was stripped of his title, it was his name being because he's, he is a Duke, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, if he was going to pull out his matrix of leadership, would it be like, pulling out a screw to him or what he did?
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where my leadership comes from.
[SPEAKER_00]: Art or his mind, but that was good.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you want to scroll.
[SPEAKER_05]: I took a seminar recently called Leadership Comes from the Scredum.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll scroll the leadership to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You meant to tell him, I'm going to ask you who was teaching that.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was my father and it was $500.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, he charged you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he made you came from his scrotum.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's actually making a lot of the PowerPoint
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to start by saying this is a cool cover and I very much enjoyed the insights.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was fun to see these two kind of sit down talk about leadership.
[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of got GI Joe and the Autobots joining forces in this issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's huge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, they're going to team up against Cobra and the Decepticons and, you know, Optimus was a phone is boin about like, you know, what happened and how he gave over leadership and it was cool that Duke was moved by that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, uh, I thought this was a cool issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you know, and that a lot happens, action wise, it was kind of cool to have these two worlds collide.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they've rolled out at one point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty cool out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, oh, guys, you go, you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was just going to say that I don't necessarily buy this, and I think this is part possible with like what the Etter John University is doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I do think it's surprising how much time they're taking both in Transformers and GI Joe to set up mask.
[SPEAKER_05]: without really making it affect the plot and either transformers or GI Joe, because the transformers are like, they set up a really interesting thing with Optimus starting to work with Miles Mayab and that immediately Miles Mayab was like, Oh, no!
[SPEAKER_05]: And here they're like, here comes Matt Tracker, you want to join GI Joe and he's like, I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_05]: Leave halfway through the issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I wish there was a chance to track it in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was felt more organic coming out of it versus it feels like a very special crossover episode, which maybe they are leading into that Saturday morning cartoon flavor, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: It feels like it's jabbing in a book that otherwise I really like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I will say, it is across over Alex and just like when we are kids playing with our toys, they agreed to share resources and information on their enemies and missions, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's really exciting.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what sharing your toys is all about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're going to share your toys means.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the idea that Duke and Optimus are going to sit down and email each other every once in a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or have on signal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's sick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, you left your Transformers in my sandbox.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, my bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think Optimus at some point should have offered Duke a sip of his energy juice?
[SPEAKER_05]: Because that's kind of like, central to this all universe is Transformer food.
[SPEAKER_05]: Humans don't drink energy on.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do they do with the Fed?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: We use energy differently.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you new to the planet?
[SPEAKER_05]: All I'm saying is we've talked about this in really in time that Edder John is basically like juice for two performers.
[SPEAKER_05]: I said that word cover commander seems to drink it as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think and so probably most of the cover law folks.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think they drink it on void rivals.
[SPEAKER_05]: They did that in the last issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: So like Duke could drink some Edder John if he wants.
[SPEAKER_05]: He wants it.
[SPEAKER_05]: He wants to drink some juice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's interesting that when Optimus
[SPEAKER_00]: Because in this comic, he said, when you made a laser shot, you got it, you're going back down the level.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to take your truck that is sweet, you know, it's Optimus Prime truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, he lost a couple like tailpipes, his truckmats are gone, absolutely gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how he goes up, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's Alex's dad's propelator's plate, comes from the truckmats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but like it also is telling that all the other transformers left and after months after Mrs. like I'll stay here because here I'm a truck.
[SPEAKER_02]: here I make sense as a truck because then other planets they don't have trucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you don't think it's nice that he was moved enough to stay, you don't think that's kind of cool that he's sticking to his guns and finishing his mission here on Earth?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, it seems like a waste of time either way to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely weird in both the Transformers comic and this issue, he's sort of like, I'm staying and everyone's like, why?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't look like I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I'm a troublemaker, I
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's something where, like, isn't Spikes Dad in Optimus?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he ate him.
[SPEAKER_05]: So this is what I'm saying, is that, like, Optimus ate a human, so clearly Duke could eat Optimus.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that was suck the juice out of him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Duke, you ate a truck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a real Josie trucks?
[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Roll out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, out to us maybe down the level, but we're going to go back to the next level with batwoman number one from DC Comics, written by Gregg Raka Art by Danny.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, this is an interesting one because it is supposed to be new reader, friendly, but at the same time,
[SPEAKER_05]: there's a pretty direct continuation of the run that Greg Rocka never got to finish in at new 52 for a lot of very bad gossipy reasons that we won't get into here, but Greg Rocka has been very open about in terms of his treatment at DC, but he is back, he's back with the DC, he has a new artist on here who is Danny, and we are picking up with Kate Caine
[SPEAKER_05]: recuperation facility.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know exactly what we call it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, what do you call the one you're in?
[SPEAKER_05]: The red room.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there.
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, Alice her sister is ostensibly dead, the way we get a little bit of recap of events there.
[SPEAKER_05]: and then we are off to the races by the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pete, you see pretty psyched about this one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Take it away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the cover.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fun, last panel.
[SPEAKER_00]: She says a bad word.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder which one it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this was just a great start.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, love the colors, the kind of look of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of reminiscent of that kind of famous Batman role run, but not a rip off of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the tone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like how this is all kind of coming together here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this was,
[SPEAKER_00]: This was just a blast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just wondering about like the sensor on the last word there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's it's four letters.
[SPEAKER_00]: One word.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did freaking you know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Probably something very naughty.
[SPEAKER_05]: Justin, what did you think about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was great continuing what I was saying earlier like it has that look back You have ruck on this feels like he is can he's bringing everyone in establishing this sort of Batman Joker relationship that Batman has with her sister, which is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's even more personal and clear
[SPEAKER_02]: in this issue, what's happening between them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, also deepening the mythology around it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The real swing here, I think, is the Danny Archbath woman for whatever reason has been this book that is always debuting a new type of artist or a new like the paneling in the earlier of the J.H.
[SPEAKER_02]: Williams stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And...
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we get this like the art really matches the backdrop it feels very like Tuskin relaxation vibe while we're getting it still being a gritty turning that into like a gritty uh that comic book superhero story I think is fantastic I I love this one as well
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, me too.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is I would say less new reader friendly than the other two decks level books, but it's gorgeous to look at and it's a great batwoman tale and it's exciting to have this back and I definitely makes me want to go back and read Greg Rucca's stuff to see what he's continuing here because we get into some stuff here where I'm like, I don't remember that at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, let's see what happens.
[SPEAKER_05]: So
[SPEAKER_05]: Great book.
[SPEAKER_05]: Great kick off.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next up, another kick off the century.
[SPEAKER_05]: Number one, from Marvel, run by Paul Jenkins, art by Christian Resado, the big headline here is that this is in continuity and following up on the previous status quo of the century.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is Paul Jenkins coming back to a character he co-created with Jay Lee.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I've said this before, and this isn't to slag anybody off, but absolutely nobody has gotten the century the way that Paul Jenkins does.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like every subsequent person who's tried to take it on is not quite nail that.
[SPEAKER_05]: While Paul Jenkins did at least two runs on the character, that delves into the mental health of the character in different ways each time.
[SPEAKER_05]: This one makes it a hatrick.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got to say at least to the first issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought this was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is disturbing, it really gets under your skin as you're reading it, as he digs further into the century.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was a little worried about switching J. Lee for Christians' auto, but I actually think it's a really good comp for what Danny is doing versus J. Williams over on Batmillon, where it's reminiscent without feeling duplicative, I just thought it was a fantastic first issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is everything that I want out of a century comic book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, same.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this really, this issue felt like the vibe that the other DC books you've been talking about, where it is sort of looking back while also looking forward and yet carving out a new way to look at the century.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, still giving the century that sort of slightly out of continuity, like, him talking to read about clock, read being like, hey, man, you're wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love hanging out with you, which always,
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole premise of the original century idea was that he was the forgotten hero That everybody knew that was part of the Marvel universe, but had been erased because of the void and the mental Health issues that plague the century and We get that flavor in here which all like you're saying Alex the other people who've taken on this character Never quite nailed that it's such a specific tone and Paul Jenkins just has it
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is hard for me because I'm not a fan of the century.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited that Paul is back and you guys are soon to be like in this, but it's a little too dark for my taste and I don't know if it's just because I look for escapism in my comics that if things get a little too
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, things that I don't want to kind of deal with that it's a bit of a pulse me out or whatever, but yeah, this is a little too dark or than what I want from a comic.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe if I like this character or it would be easier for me to get in, but
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's not trying to be an easy comic book.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's basically like the Hamlet of Comic Book characters.
[SPEAKER_05]: He has the power of a million exploding sons or a thousand exploding sons, I never remember.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he depends on inflation.
[SPEAKER_05]: He barely could do anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: He stuck in his own head all the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's the purpose of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Here there seems to be a new iteration of the void, new iteration of the century.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm very interested to see where this goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and what they do here, sorry, just last thing on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They centuries always doing, and then the void is undoing, and the flip here that I think we're going to get is the void is doing bad things.
[SPEAKER_02]: The century is sort of undoing in a good way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you've got to avoid the noise.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: One answer.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now you like it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now you get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: American Kaper number five from Dark Horse Comics, written by Dan Houser and Laslo Art by David Lampem.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you haven't already check out our interview with Laslo and editor Shelley Bond about this book that we did a week or two back.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to say that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the teas this very issue which turns the focus onto the women of the book in a big way and in some cases a surprising way What you guys think about this one?
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the interview that we did with them really helped to animate this for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this book just keeps adding layers.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kept asking them this question other ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, how are you layering so much?
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a big team working on this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it feels like everyone has a creative hand from the editor down to every writer and artist and sort of the producer roles that some of the folks have on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they're able to layer it without it feeling like over-stuffed or too heavy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this issue, both keeps all the balloons in the air of the characters that were sort of scared of nervous about or interested in.
[SPEAKER_02]: But shifts the focus to these other characters that we haven't that we've seen but not really gotten too close to.
[SPEAKER_02]: So hell of a balancing act.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is like the arts fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got to say cool kind of vibe in comparison to the subject matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, this continues to be really interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I appreciate the kind of character study we get in this issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this continues to be kind of,
[SPEAKER_00]: sometimes deeper or sadder than I'm ready to go, but it's always really cool and work checking out and I'm looking forward to what's going to happen next.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just want to mention that I was out of town this weekend, and I was reading my comics on the plane back to prep for you Good, and I got to this one and I was really worried the entire tie by kept being like, okay, ready to flip I'm ready to flip here again.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just kind of like flip past this page, but yeah, I think it was mostly okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like there was no dangling scronyms or anything like that So thank you no no no leaders you mean
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, thank you American Capre Team for making this mostly safe for the plane.
[SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next up, Destrook, the Terminator number one from DC Comics written by Tony Fleece, Art by Carmine D. Giandobenico.
[SPEAKER_05]: Good, yes, that's I think you named you.
[SPEAKER_05]: We had Tony Fleece on the show this past week, talked about this very book, and he corrected my pronunciation of Carmine A, so there he go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I think I've gotten everything we need to know about the book.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, this is, uh, Slade Wilson is on a mission that goes horribly wrong because of course it does.
[SPEAKER_05]: And now he is on the run and he is being hunted, uh, there's also a lot of other interesting continuity that I think Tony very facily layers in here, whether you know Destrocker God.
[SPEAKER_05]: But what did you guys think?
[SPEAKER_05]: Pete, you seem pretty psyched about it on the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited for a more of this very excited about the team.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is on this really fun last panel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great art tons of action.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's I'm excited and nervous about how this is going to all unfold, you know, because you got this kind of dueling ideal here where like, you know, he's a father and a horrible villain.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you kind of, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like can you be a great dad and also the worst person ever?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure you can.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm a little worried about all that, but man, I'm loving all the action and a lot of cool kind of stuff set up in this first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: The, I said this on the, on the live show, but the coming to D. Gian Domenico Art is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so immersive, it's so fluid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can see the progression.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked a little bit about our first exposures to his work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the progression to this, it's so, it's like language, it's sort of like,
[SPEAKER_02]: you feel like you're falling into it when you're looking at it and it's really great even something that is so visceral and violent as this destruct issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like this is like able to reset a lot of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Destruct, a character that I don't really know the continuity of off the top of my head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have you just think of them as Deadpool.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have a weird blind.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not this character named Death Stroke dead pool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, easy to understand the difference.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, if it helps, he's also called the Terminator.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and his last name is Wilson.
[SPEAKER_02]: Slade Wilson.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is now you're telling me, uh, uh, Wade Wilson and Slade Wilson are very different names.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is what you're telling me right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then that makes total sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I am saying, though, is that what I, the inclusion of Rose here is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a family element here, and then what we reveal, reveal we get at the end where it's sort of like challenging all of this stuff and sort of wiping the slate clean in a way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really cool, and I think we're going to get a nice new take on this character, which I think this character's been in need of a refresh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, if I could just say one more thing Alex here is that, uh, one of the cool things that he kind of revealed when we had them on our live show is that we're kind of getting a more rose, which is exciting and also seeing deathstroke through rose like I said.
[SPEAKER_00]: is seeing somebody like a father figure but they're the worst is kind of an interesting idea but also what's great is have you ever I've never been exposed to like a bad dad before so I'm excited to see if that's something that happens in society ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, yeah, yeah, I'm not like you guys have had one big dad's your whole lives, and you know, that's great But you know, the other half, you know, doesn't get great dad sometimes But I also am very excited about the pace and the action, you know, I mean because Deathstroke is such a kind of badass and this is a badass comic So I'm glad we're you know, that's a real important part to this kind of a multifaceted character
[SPEAKER_05]: Next up, ultimate Wolverine number 15 from Marvel Written by Chris Condon, art by Alessandro Capuchio.
[SPEAKER_05]: We are in the pen ultimate issue of this title as for a brief while Logan reverts to the winter soldier, as we continue to explore Ilyana's origin in the ultimate universe.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you guys thinking?
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa, Wolverine, Wolverine!
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is like Earth Lobo in a lot of all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_00]: I disagree.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they're very different and not the same at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking that the art is really great on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also cool cover.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but we're getting some real twists and turns here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Logan goes under the mine control a little bit here, so that kind of slips back, but we kind of have this build up of magic here in limbo, so I'm, you know, Wolverine's been to hell a bunch of times, so it'll be interesting to see what happens when he gets to limbo, you know what I mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to see this guy how low can he go, very short which you think would be an advantage but it's harder to be so flexible when you get to limbo.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing I love about this is just Logan and Gene Gray hanging in Bang and out in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me more of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want more of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This reminds me of like the age of apocalypse.
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw a Similarly like hard luck couple of the two of them in that world.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is much more like
[SPEAKER_02]: like quote unquote realistic or them just like out there doing stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see this continue on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's crazy to say that in the Altamy universe.
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's why that dumb tells very nicely into my hot take, which is the shortest of all possible leaps.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just put Chris Condon on regular Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_05]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's nothing against it because I do like this title.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's barely any difference.
[SPEAKER_05]: So just have a portip over there, give him your Wolverine run on going.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think bring Alessandro Capuchio if you want.
[SPEAKER_05]: They do a great job.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great caught.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really edging on, it's really edging on the invincibleness of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's using the characters that we have in the story to tell invincible like stories or scenes anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're starting to see all the other characters that are like, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when what's his name is like, where is Conquest?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what are you doing here?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are we going?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we going there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we doing that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, I'm loving this.
[SPEAKER_00]: The art is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Battlebees is such a cool character, uh, but yeah, this is also a fun, uh, I almost said episode, but a fun ish where, you know, we kind of get everybody else, uh, reacting to battlebees because he's kind of out of commission, but man, he's got a big battle coming up and then the surprise twist that we get at the end of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be exciting to see, uh, what happens in that, uh, upcoming battle there.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I continue to really ship whatever that alien guy's name and whatever that robot's name is, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, really sweet, did you appreciate the slung shot where you like, oh, yeah, that's the perfect amount of dick shell in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: a nice curly little curly cute dick.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like how much we saw it really got to see it and Alice I love your take on romance in general or you're like I love the sign guy from that movie and the girl He's showing the signs to yeah, they really made like 10s bar and one of the two women are through the blonde water the other one
[SPEAKER_05]: Hope they had none together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hope that monogue and other lady get together or dying.
[SPEAKER_05]: One of those should have.
[SPEAKER_05]: 50-50.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wonder Woman number 31 for DC Comics written by Tom King, Art by Daniel Sampary, this kicking off the Wonder War, go listen to our interview with Tom King, where we talk to him about this in the comic book club.
[SPEAKER_05]: Feed.
[SPEAKER_05]: But here we are jumping forward to the future where the matriarch, a evil Amazon, is almost one.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's almost taken over the world and it is up to Trinity, as well as Batman, who is Damien Wayne, and Superman, who is John Kent, to stop her, things get dire.
[SPEAKER_05]: They get deadly, leading up to a point that we kind of knew was coming from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this continues to be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bad ass last panel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, it's, it's cool set up, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: We get this kind of God killer sword and, you know, just, uh, really just,
[SPEAKER_00]: to get to that last panel was very exciting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this great art, interesting story.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great use of characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: This continues to be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: When we talked to Tom King, I was like, he feel very villain first with your take on Wonder Woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his answer is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go back and listen to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: reading the book it does feel like especially with Wonder Woman a character that doesn't have a lot of villains outside of the mythological villains that he's gotten out of his way to create this like really terrifying or I guess mouseman wasn't terrifying but like a really good rogues gallery for her here
[SPEAKER_02]: and this issue is really setting that up while serving us up some great tragedy that we even enjoyed the comedy side of and then we get absolutely ruined here for and punished for enjoying it too much and just badass reveal the arts great this feels like such punchy comic book action
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's funny, this is also from the interview with him, but something that really coalesced a lot of what he was doing is I didn't realize he was Chris Claremont's assistant is that what he said and he was like, yeah, I guess I'm just doing days of future past I was like, oh, I guess you are actually essentially you're like,
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, any sort of ex-bed going to the future story, that brings a lot of it into focus and it brings a lot of like the planning and fourth thought that's going in there because that's Chris Claremod.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do think it's inherently different the way that he's hitting the stuff, but very tense, very taught storytelling, upsetting, tragedy, curious to see what happens next.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy though that he's disguised it so well that I had not since that at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I never made that connection at all, and I was like, oh, it was right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: The entire time, like from the beginning, it's been right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've read two years of backups, setting up days of future paths, and we were like, that seems fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no thoughts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Amazing spider-man number 24 from Marvel Written Mike Charles Sol and Joe Kelly art by Hesus Saeys.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is a continue with a Death Spiral storyline carnage who is Eddie Brock has watched torment at this new villain, killed his father, and now we're jumping over to a little bit of the old Eddie Brock carnage, the title that Hesus Saeys and Charles Sol did, that was very good, but did get the love it should probably should have, and was canceled.
[SPEAKER_05]: It probably would have played a much bigger role in this death spiral storyline and then what I'm talking about between three titles instead of two, but whatever we are, we're great thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, that's probably almost definitely what would have been happening, but instead we got this and I continue to love this storyline.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the character dynamics between Peter and MJ and Eddie are great.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think torment is increasingly interesting as we get to see more of him really good crossover so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm also really enjoying it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The very boots on the ground, just like progression of this, like we're now torment just as using shockers gloves, very like, it's like a part of his character in a way that I didn't expect it to be that meaningful, which I think is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: The art by Hazus Siaz is so Mary Jane looks scary when she's revealed underneath the Venom Goob.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's cool, I think that's a good idea because it is making this feel like the sun's going down in the horror movie and shit's about to be much worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also thought it was funny that Eddie Brock's dad Carl Brock, like he's like, Carl's dad and he's like, oh no, he fucking sucked though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every character does.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're like Peter Parker.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was like he's like from everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard about him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a piece of trash Jesus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay How take yeah Yeah, this is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying this the kind of cranking it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is is crazy torment kind of Tightening the spirals to see like so call it
[SPEAKER_00]: is insane, but man, I'm loving Spider-Man and Van amangin' out, spendin' time together, chatin', it's just steaming up, and I am here for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't call it steaming.
[SPEAKER_02]: You think this is your romance meters a little off?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if they're just hanging out together, it kind of counts, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let me be, I'm with you, I believe.
[SPEAKER_02]: this their super hero team up is the gateway to their romance getting back on track.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just haven't seen a shred of it yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're they're in proximity to each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, is it cool to date?
[SPEAKER_02]: Data coworker?
[SPEAKER_00]: from an HR perspective like kind of how cool like kind of scan how cool five well you've I mean there you've got to declare the relationship it's like it's a whole thing you know I mean it's forms to fill out it's you know it's a lot of extra work stop you're getting me all hot and bothered what do info do you have to put in the form like how in depth you have to go you're definitely flashback to amazing spider-man
[SPEAKER_02]: It's important for us to come.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you have to write down like everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but you gotta put one of the relationships started and that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, do you start off saying to your penthouse letters I never thought it could happen to me or where do you put that on?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my header on every email I sent.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... and that's potentially real all right can we move on to devil on number four not darker from dark horse comics with my call stars art by pewter qualsky there's the final issue of this tale about a woman who is tortured by foreman getting her revenge on them and we have been wondering when the supernatural become in the series and here it does this final issue this things wrap up or do they
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought this series was great, very dark.
[SPEAKER_05]: I am curious to hear what you guys thought about the conclusion here, but generally speaking, I really liked this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when we talk to Kyle, he was like, don't worry, she's going to get a revenge.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first issue is intense.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had only read the first issue at that point.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think he paid that off.
[SPEAKER_02]: The part I was dubious about was the supernatural nature of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I was like, you've done a great job of having as watched this great revenge story over the first three issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do we need to go supernatural?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he nailed it in this, I thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he was able to turn it in a way that didn't feel forced.
[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't feel like a last minute add-on.
[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like it had been there the whole time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And ended up being a reveal in a really good way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just really, really well done, I thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: The end felt a little fast to me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what I was sort of getting at, is... Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Particularly just the last page, it was like, And we're done.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's just one note, and another wise, very good, Very dark.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's also a revenge tab.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it did remind me of how horror movies often in that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or they're like, And sorry, we're done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we'll do another one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe that was intentional.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I also thought this was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty scary story.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna add that pile of babies that baby room was really freaking me the fuck out.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if you walked into a baby room with a Skype, what's your first room?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to carefully make sure that that Skype leaves that room as safely as possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yo, that's how you're cutting the apples.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you got to go to a different room.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't be in the same room with babies in that room.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they already have the apples, but you got to cut them up all the ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: not just teenagers.
[SPEAKER_05]: There weren't a lot of, we didn't talk about this with the ultimate, but there was a whole thing with minions of the red skull wearing baby flag jackets, which are a baby in front of the baby back in case they decide to shoot at you, so not a baby's in danger this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a crazy babyish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Plus a tough thing about a site is like to really get one baby off.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to stab another one.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a team pull it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, absolute flash, number 13 from DC Comics written by Jeff LeBeehr, Art by Haining.
[SPEAKER_05]: We are kicking off a new arc here where Wally West is kind of feeling sort of lost.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's hanging out at the Dibdi home for a wayward children or whatever it's called.
[SPEAKER_05]: And bonding with Linda Park, his friend slash crush, as she finds out about his powers and find they find out more about what's going on in Fort Fox.
[SPEAKER_05]: Justin, you're a big fan of this title, what do you think about this issue and new direction?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just to remind her, I went from being pretty mid on this when it started to really coming to enjoy it and it found its way to its absoluteness in a path I didn't expect.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this now is, it's become sort of the brightest of the absolute books in a good way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's nice that the line has variety.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is doing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it's, there's like youthful, they're, I mean, they're tragedy here, but there's like, I thought you were just talking about the coloring or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, well, I think it is like, there's a lot of orange in this, which is also cool, reds, but I like the energy of this book and the new storyline getting into, really branching out from what we've done before, which felt very sort of close to loop for the first, the first issues of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, you know, I thought the daytime was nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to share your fries, bro.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, awesome art, fun kind of villain, last panel reveal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, also cool, destruct preview.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this one, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Really kind of says the, it gives you a little bit better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you like the preview better than the first issue of destruct?
[SPEAKER_00]: It did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, Oh, man, I can go back to read this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I'm enjoying this more than I thought Jeff Lamir does a great job with storytelling.
[SPEAKER_00]: So even though a character that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a fan of, I'm still having a good time, so that's pretty impressive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Katzen America, number eight, from Marvel Written by Chip Starsky, art by Jan Basel, Dua, Cap, and Co are in Lot of Varia, which is that under attack.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a bunch of different forces who are trying to gain control of the country.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now the Dr. Doom isn't there anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Cap has found out some dark truths about Lot of Varia, as well as salvation, the bad who is currently
[SPEAKER_05]: Meanwhile, Red Hulk and Nick Fury both want a piece of that old lad Varia.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's all leading up towards the Armageddon event.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's going to change everything starting this summer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting, because this does feel like one of the lead, the tip of the spear of Armageddon, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: in the current kind of news.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so yeah, for anybody who doesn't know chips and Arskie is going to be writing this event, we're going to get a free comic book tape review that I believe it's coming out in June or July.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember which, and the two big titles that are leading up to it are Captain America and Wolverine weapons of Armageddon by chip, as well as reborn ultimate impact, which is a title that spins off of Biles were all as finding urgent boxes, and that is going to be by Chris
[SPEAKER_02]: interesting elements we have here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very complicated, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this, like I like this issue, I like that the intricacies of a like post, like head of state being taken away and what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's very, it's a very bureaucratic story here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's interesting to me that this is meant to be like the road time again because I'm like this road feels a lot like reading the news
[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of the big Marvel stuff has felt like that lately, like I know some people liked it, so that's fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: But one world under Doom was very much like that for 10 months or whatever it was.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I wasn't into that story a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was pretty glad to be done with it, and then they were like, you know, what?
[SPEAKER_05]: We're still in Laud Veria, and we're still going with this.
[SPEAKER_05]: And here we go.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the next event is also about Laud Veria.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I know there's a movie coming up called Dubes Day, so you've got to get that content out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: But this is external to this comic, but a lot of this feels to be the opposite of what we're saying with DC that it feels like we've got to get content on the stands versus
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, let's see what creators want to do and take a big swing to talk specifically about this comic.
[SPEAKER_05]: I agree with you that there was a lot of good stuff and interesting stuff happening around Captain America, but Captain America throughout this run so far and we're now 80 issues in has felt like a figure who's like, I'm just stuck in the middle here.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do I do?
[SPEAKER_05]: The world's very complicated and that eventually is like, got to punch somebody.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I got to do and that's where we end up.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, it's not quite connecting for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just feels like there's a lot of words that have to be laid down for some reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: When, because I think there's a way to do this, it's a little bit more like caps in the castle that area, and there's three people storming the castle to run it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it can be a little more like active like oh no, this is all happening now when like you're saying it feels like cats been like hey this situation is complicated Everyone's like I agree cap here's all the stuff that's going on like that makes me feel like it's complicated
[SPEAKER_05]: Successful fallout from one world under duty so far has been the dungeons of doom series Yes, it's kind of jocative budget and Percy are doing and that's doing exactly what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is active.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is like this is happening now And we got to deal with this rather than yeah all the politics of it And that's where they want to lean, but like
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, similarly, the story that took place during one role that I do where the Red Hulk featured here was escaping from the dungeons, and it was about how he did that by assembling this team, and it felt like, oh, this feels like what we're going toward in this new
[SPEAKER_02]: iteration of Laveria and this now feels like a step at least further out where we're now re-establishing a political sphere and that feels like one world under Doom did too much of that to your point
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why don't we move on?
[SPEAKER_05]: Talk about exquisite corpses number 11, who image comics written by Jay Grayson with James Time of the Fourth, Art by Gavin Fullerton with Michael Walsh.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're getting down to it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe there's one more issue of this season of exquisite corpses as we would all our way down to two contestants that are fighting for the crown that will determine the ruler of America.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm still not what I'm just saying clear on this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what's going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is getting crazy, I mean the creepy rabbit mascot finally got taken care of that guy was driving me nuts, tons of action tons of madness, yeah, I'm interested to see how this shakes out, I love the art, the colors, and the shading, the mood of it, or so cool, so yeah, this has been really solid.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it feels like it was this big world, and then we explored the big world, and there was so much happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then this issue, I feel like feature a lot of characters being like, hey, only two people are left alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: That seems crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like, now they're gonna fight, and I was like, oh, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I like the world just shrunk really hard, and I was trying to think,
[SPEAKER_02]: how either more issues where we could slowly work through this a little bit because I really like the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the exquisite corpse nature of how James Titan sort of did this where it was like him and another writer were on every issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: but it was a shared thing was also very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like maybe the solution would have been to split the sort of rich person stuff and the boots on the ground stuff out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe alternated issues or something so we could really understand all that was happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there was more space on either side to tell the stories, because this issue leaned into some more of the rich person stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like,
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand exactly who's who and what the stakes are with each of them because it's it's too hard to tell.
[SPEAKER_05]: That I think is the inherent problem with this and I will say it's a book that looks great and I have a journey to read and I enjoy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I still like reading exactly and I want to represent where the second season absolutely is there are too many characters to keep track of everybody because you're supposed to keep track of the people in the tournament and
[SPEAKER_05]: They're flashy, they're big, but then you also have all these people outside the tournament to where the rulers of the world, and then you have all these people of the town, and at any given moment, I'm not 100% sure who I'm rooting for, who anybody is, what their motivation is, even though we've been following them, and
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a bunch of, not to like, backseat, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: But like, there's a bunch of different ways that this could go.
[SPEAKER_05]: The character who has popped the most is the medic whose dad was the sheriff and left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's the one who's the most to get back to the discusses we were just having.
[SPEAKER_05]: She is the most active.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's the one that has the most intrigued backstory.
[SPEAKER_05]: She has the one that is the most drive and is the most central to the action focusing on her while all this other
[SPEAKER_05]: a more streamlined way to go because as it is, like, there's the guy with the punk, I don't know, vaster, whatever he's wearing, take the kid in.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like, I vaguely remember him, but that was a month ago and like, oh, yeah, okay, I'm not sure what you're dealing with.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know this old lady is manipulating things outside, but I don't know why or how or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, there's a lot of elements in play, it's bursting with ideas, but when they get into a second season, I hope they can figure out a way to particularly because they've eliminated most of the characters that we've now spent 12 issues with, I hope they can find out a more like straightforward way of doing this, that's all.
[SPEAKER_05]: we shall see new titans number 33 from DC Comics by Tate Bromble, Art by Sammy Bosri.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is not part of next level, this is all in, but this is a new take on titans, and I'm almost hesitant to say anything, because I thought this issue was delightful to read.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, all I'll say is that like Tate Bromble is found to completely you need to take on the Titans characters, even by looking at the cover which introduces like here, check out this new team of Titans.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't know what you're getting into in this issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's unique, it's smart, it's funny to me, and this is like starting to skirt spoilers, but we put up a preview and somebody is like, I feel really weird about how Cory is talking in this preview, but other than that,
[SPEAKER_05]: And it becomes immediately apparent what's going on with Corey talking about why she's talking that way of this issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: So overall, I just thought this was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let me just say it's someone who looks like they work at Starbucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is so anti-coffee and I'm not here for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for speaking out and speaking your truth, Pete.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and if you guys want to spoil it, that's fine, but just like I was I was kind of delighted reading this issue because I didn't know when I was going to get to you and that's very rare.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's especially for Tape Rumble who's been doing a lot of great comic book work, but this feels like a bridge title that brings a Tape style into like some very over-the-plate comic book work like to combine that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is such a comic book story that I thought really worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the reveal at the end of the
[SPEAKER_02]: of the quote unquote new titans I was like I don't know exactly what it will mean but I was pretty psyched about all of it like I liked all the stuff that happened whether or not all of this sticks the characters that ran in at the end I was like I like all of these characters you don't think it's just a big tea kind of you don't make it a move and Mr. Lipton Yeah, or do you mean like Mr.
[UNKNOWN]: Tea?
[SPEAKER_02]: Big team, that's what you call them because you had a dog fish incident with him as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to read about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just check it out, trust us on that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Doc Cyclops.
[SPEAKER_05]: Number two from Marvel, written by Alex Pactinole, art by Roger Adtonio.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cyclops has lost his visor at broke apart Eddie as in the woods with a young mutant.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they are on the run for the reverse who have been rebooted by Donald Pierce.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love the first issue of this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought the second issue was great as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pete's about to say that Cyclops is a dick, but that's the point of this issue is he's a dick and the young girl tells us to be him He's a dick.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and he's gonna figure out maybe how to be less of a dick
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's worth it for me if we can go down this journey and sideclubs could be less of a dick on all four, but right now he is dicking it up, you know, this guy's just like, it's scrotum dragon along the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: He played for everybody involved.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's still got the scrotum of leadership, but will he give it up to be less of a dick?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, like how Optimus gave up the scrotum of the Transformers to someone else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's why that's why he's that's why you can see his face now His face previously was on his face.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had stretched it all the way up over his I think that's how that he is that how Transformer's were nope
[SPEAKER_02]: It is more than a guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, does it do his balls hang low?
[SPEAKER_05]: Do they wobble too in front of Pete?
[SPEAKER_05]: How do you feel about it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, because I see we know where the truck nuts hang when he's a truck.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when he's optimist, aren't they just like right here on the face?
[SPEAKER_02]: And Cyclops, where is his scrotum?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's his problem is he can't find his truck nuts and so he's basically powerless.
[SPEAKER_02]: Powerless.
[SPEAKER_02]: This feels like a limited series that is going to be character rehabilitation for Cyclops.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like that it's just him being like, hey, I'm in charge in the other mutant is like, no, bro, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm gonna fix you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this might be the path forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: We might get peat back on board out of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also think this is wild to me how much of this issue is just about the rivers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're just really getting into some river life.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that feels like an extension of what Alex did on sentinals as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just sort of extending those body modification ideas and I love that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like if I do
[SPEAKER_05]: You instantly know who these characters are and how they relate to each other.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're all very distinct and designed distinctly by Antonio.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm really into the biz villains.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm always into the biz villains, but I think they work really well here.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the arts are good for as a foil for Cyclops.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Foiled.
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been foiled.
[SPEAKER_05]: Back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two.
[SPEAKER_05]: Got you.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's energy from a book and a book or a library, Frank Geiger is teeming up with the Northerner and they meet some kids and then they leave the kids and then some other things happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: yeah this is we get a little nicer side to the guy here normally he's pretty kind of cold and uh... closed off but here he's being uh... you know great dad he's uh... he's the handling story time and so it's fun to see this you know you got kids riding the two headed wolf dog i mean this is just uh...
[SPEAKER_00]: uh uh such a different kind of side as to the gags so it's it's it's nice to see it's not what we normally get so enjoy what you can you know what I mean um but yeah this uh great art um you know i'm a a tiger head so anytime we can get any more tiger stories i'm all in
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete is a guy or counter because you can count on him to enjoy a guy or every issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a real departure from a guy or the past.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really laughing it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's telling stories.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's warming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why the reveal at the end of the show was like, oh, perfect timing for him to be chilling out a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll say I think him having the foil of the Northerner with him is helping a lot to make him open up a little bit from a storytelling perspective.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really like this direction and the reveal at the end, like I said, was awesome.
[SPEAKER_05]: End of life number two from DC Comics written by once again Kyle Starks art by Steve Pew.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is DC Vertigo title about an assassin who is forced to run a home and hang out with his father who he hates and hates him in a small town where he grew up while a cabal of assassins are on his tail.
[SPEAKER_05]: Very funny issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really love the speed character who is just the biggest
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And agree with all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then the art just crushes in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Steve PR is so good and so fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Huge reveal at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean huge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the art is great, a fun last panel, murder brothers are fun, yeah, it's, you know, sometimes you have the douchebag character and you don't root for them, you know, because they're too douchey, but doing a good job of kind of giving us
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... just enough of an inside to actually try to pull for this guy so uh... impressive work and uh... yeah fun joke at the end and also great details throughout this issue as they explore the town of the farmers market there's just so many ridiculous jokes with the name of stores and the people that we mean and everything else so
[SPEAKER_05]: really good book.
[SPEAKER_05]: Definitely pick this up if you have an infertile Hulk number five from Marvel written by Philip Kenny Johnson.
[SPEAKER_05]: Art by Kev Walker in this issue we're jumping between a bunch of different things as the now evil infernal Hulk fights an angel.
[SPEAKER_05]: It certainly seems like and at the same time Bruce and Betty are feeling pretty bad about what's happened with the
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is great that art's unbelievable, yeah, it's a little surprising because it was like they made such a big deal of Bruce kind of walking away and being like, no, I'm done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to have anything to do with this all.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know we're separated I don't want and you know so I was surprised but also kind of been like yeah I don't think you can walk away Bruce so yeah I thought this was a good issue needed to have happened got a little weird with the kind of like
[SPEAKER_00]: i was like are they talking about god like what is happening right now uh... but uh... other than that uh... this continues to be a blast but again the the art is just uh... you know just unbelievable some of these kind of character designs and stuff and this is a cool cover world connect
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the body horror art of this is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's this panel where the infernal Hulk's jaw is just like flipping way out over his mouth and this is really awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love the way it goes from that to like the very norm core Bruce and Betty trying to deal with their guilt as a manifested front of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Philip Gange, Johnson telling the horror story that he's wanted to tell for so long, I'm really enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Kill all Immortals, two, number three from Dark Horse Comics written by Zab.
[SPEAKER_05]: Zack Kaplan sees me art by Fiko Asio.
[SPEAKER_05]: This issue, our Norsemen, our Vikings, our fighting directly with Ganges Khan and his people, Ganges Khan and his people, our Immortals.
[SPEAKER_05]: Our Vikings are no longer Immortals.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can they kill all Immortals?
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll find out in this issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean, this is shade, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or next issue, next issue, next issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a lot of twists and turns, betrayals fighting, amazing art and action.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a fun read.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really love the colors and the vibe to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, this continues to be very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_02]: The idea that these people are fighting over a sort of a conch of immortality is really, in this issue of struck me, it's just really working.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I really like that idea and because the way there's an internal conflict, a conch, a conch, not a conch, a conch.
[SPEAKER_02]: The way that the families debating on what they should be, their goal should be to take down the other family or to recapture their immortality.
[SPEAKER_02]: the other's have the immortality, that's the commodity, that's the McGuffin.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just makes for like, it's really caught me up in the high stakes, mythological stakes with the down and dirty, let's kick ass right here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the art is really sleek and cool, so I like this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Superman unlimited number 11 from DC Comics written by Dan slot art by Lucas Meyer this continuing the reign of the super boys and here we're focusing on John Kent taking on a fifth dimensional imp who sees John demons
[SPEAKER_05]: David, excuse me, who sees John as his arch enemy, even though John hasn't met him yet and we explore what that means and what that relationship means, leading to two big twists at the end that are both spoiled on the cover.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true, yeah, that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have fourth dimensional, but maybe I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_05]: yeah so yes he is a fourth dimension that's right yes uh his son of a glitch line was funny I thought that was uh kind of a fun bit there and sorry I will mention real quick that we did talk to Dan slot about this on our live show a couple weeks back I know we plugged a lot of different interviews here sure have listen to them
[SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping we'd make a goal a couple of comics, but I guess not.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess we do two many interviews which is there.
[SPEAKER_00]: We talk to the people.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talk to the people making the comics and that's so that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, his enthusiasm and I don't know if we've said this, but like we talked to him for like
[SPEAKER_02]: 30, 40 minutes, and then we talked to him for another 30, 40 minutes after that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you talk to a creator as enthusiastic as Dan Slap who talks so much more about literally just comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue gives us a sort of flip reveal that is so exciting because of what happened in continuity to put us in this position.
[SPEAKER_02]: with a young versus old, which is really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the super sons and what we're getting here is really nice, I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and I'll just also give a shout out to Lucas Meyer.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought the design of the fourth dimensional deep in was very cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mark Spector, Moon Knight, number two from Marvel, written by Judd McKay, art by Dev Belia, promenac, the first issue found Mark Spector brainwashed and stuck in prison by
[SPEAKER_05]: eventually freed by Zodiac at the end of the issue here, we find out who that mystery enemy is and we get several big fights and some twists and turns.
[SPEAKER_05]: I, not the biggest moonlight fan, really love the first issue of this, was nervous about them, seemingly wrapping everything up in one issue, but man, this issue was great as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: More twists and turns and we take this action.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, how about that?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was having a mood night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm also having a great time with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've taken some fun to us in terms.
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't reveal the villain if you aren't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fun uses zodiac.
[SPEAKER_00]: tons of cool kind of like panels and and villain stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was having a blast with this, but I'm a sucker from Moon Knight, so a nice to see that you are also enjoying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: More please, this is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the previous run that Jen McKay did on Moon Knight got so big and confusing to the point where Moon Knight wasn't even in it and it was like having the Moon Knight supporting Cassby, the main characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: This I think is doing something that is working better for me where it's just getting back into Moon Knight and some of the
[SPEAKER_02]: characters that are immediately next to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: The reveal here is a major villain that we've seen it as in Moon Knight's Rogues Gallery.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many Moon Knight Rogues gallery members we could all name here, but this is one of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Two?
[SPEAKER_02]: I could name two, I think, off-hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you are you talking about the reveal in this issue and the other character in this issue?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, recent sea bias right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Punisher isn't that a Moon Knight villain?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_05]: Spider-Man, is that a Moon Knight villain?
[SPEAKER_05]: Pete, you would now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lobo, who does baseball for him?
[SPEAKER_02]: Moon Knight fight himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's done night.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jake, he's the son.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the son is his enemy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, I'm talking.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have the country right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what I'm going to find for a movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Tonight's series, number two.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll also answer the question in the comments.
[SPEAKER_05]: Written by Matt Kent, art by David Lampum.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is about a all-powerable Superman type superhero who can never go to sleep.
[SPEAKER_05]: But what he does fall asleep, he goes to another world where he has no powers.
[SPEAKER_05]: His Lex Luther has found that out as well as found out.
[SPEAKER_05]: How to track of there is decided if I can kill him as a human, I can kill him as a superhero.
[SPEAKER_05]: This issue flips the perspective to go from the villain's perspective and show,
[SPEAKER_05]: how he got there and what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Great trip to out series really good.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was actually very excited and I know bad kid to all these does this, but the next issue is the last issue and I do love how tightly plotted and put this together.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is that they aren't going to have this drug on forever because I think it's going to hit a very nice conclusion.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting how he works and not to keep saying this, but we did talk to him but we back in New York Comic-Con and he was teasing this like almost renaissance period or major creative period he had entered and a ton of stuff was coming out and I imagine this was in the bucket.
[SPEAKER_02]: That he was talking about there where he just gets a big idea and then Fine and then tells the story in the form that it needs to be told in that's why like this is a three-ish Your series that this second issue goes like so Through so many loop deloops and like really drills down at points while also giving us this big bird's eye view of just
[SPEAKER_02]: the superhero arch nemesis dynamic and how complicated and simple it can be at the same time so that this was one of my one of my favorite reads of the week
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice, yeah, I also love this, the art style is so cool, enjoy the world that it kind of sets up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a little confused, but there's a lot of twists and turns and you got dream worlds and real worlds and stuff like that, but yeah, very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_05]: Planet She-Hulk, number five from Marvel, written by Stephanie Phillips, art by Aaron Kuder in this issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: She-Hulk is joining up with some new allies and finding out some surprising truths about the world's of Sikara.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pete is doing an impersonation of her holding up the planet on the cover doing a great job.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, kiddo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this continues to be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Justin broke the news of the live show that this was going to be canceled.
[SPEAKER_02]: The next issue will be the last issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's heartbreaking.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm having such a great time with she Hulk on play.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to be clear, it was canceled for some really gross tweets.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that's a call back on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a hat and a hat.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, cancel for really boosting up like Dilbert.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, yeah, I think platenchy Hulk tried to do some sort of tri-a-thing page tribute to
[SPEAKER_05]: Scott Adams.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we had a good run.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a good run.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Stephanie Phillips is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's such a cool idea and very well executed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like enjoying she Hulk solve these kind of problems on different worlds and her take on stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great idea art's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm super sad that it's not doing well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree, I'm so bummed, this is such a tragic cancellation because I think the air and CUDA are is so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think to come back to Sikar and have it have she helped be both a Hulk, but also someone who is just speaking down to Earth to us and being like these people are crazy, which is such a nice refresh on the Planet Hulk, the very self-serious tone of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: and the epic nature gladiatorial nature of that and this being very like down to earth person dealing with the same high stakes gladiatorial place I thought is it was just a great idea and I wish this had found an audience because it's certainly found an audience here with
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I just want to give another shout out to Aaron Cooter's art in particular, um, huge fan of his, he is an artist that I will follow absolutely anywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's really interesting reading this title and see how he has changed his art style for this.
[SPEAKER_05]: He has gone from being very much of the mode of like a frank, quitely, uh, sketchy, heavily into lines to hear.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot more shading going on throughout.
[SPEAKER_05]: almost sort of upshot of she hooks face in one panel that was very striking in this issue in particular uh... so yeah good stuff the lucky devil's number seven from image comics written by Charles soul art by a ryan brown this issue a lot of stuff goes down as hell starts to fall apart and true this come out of there are demons who are trying to manipulate fell into a destroying itself and maybe the earth as well uh... which you guys think
[SPEAKER_02]: to wildly specific takes here.
[SPEAKER_02]: One I think Ryan's Brian Brown's tooth art tooth presentations of teeth is excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't I've rarely seen more topographical teeth, very textured teeth and all the creatures in this, all the demons.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the second take is you rarely see the M. Knight Shyamla and movie Devil
[SPEAKER_02]: and we get that here, but shout out to it in a way that I did not see coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this continues to be really creative and interesting and cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shit, moment on the last panel, you know, but yeah, this is just also fun, amazing art.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting kind of a story with the take on heaven and hell here and the demons and humans and
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think this is in such great hands on this team.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've done such great work.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, this is this is a cool idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very well executed.
[SPEAKER_05]: The mortal Thorne, number eight from Marvel Written by Al Ewing, Art by Al I, Kabal, this issue once again turns towards Asgard, or at least the nine realms.
[SPEAKER_05]: To find out what's going on there with, oh my gosh, I'm totally black.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got his name.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the other Magdi is it Magdi or something like that?
[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever it is, the main character of the book is hanging out with Black Chaco hair.
[SPEAKER_05]: These space rabbit who I believe used to hang out with Rocket, Raccoon among other folks.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... and meanwhile enchantress is making some big moves in the background while i was personally a little disappointed the first time we got an issue like this i like this issue much better and now that i see the pattern they're going for those the style i enjoyed it quite a bit very nice did you
[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were looking up the character.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am, but okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great art.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure if you could not talk while Justin's doing research.
[SPEAKER_05]: That I really.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is important.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even silence.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we want to build the tension of the dramatic reveal is just and frantically flips through pages of a comic book to get to the character.
[SPEAKER_05]: started this podcast and we've told the story a million times because we wanted to create an audio library a place where people are quiet, talk and hush tones, and research happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, just bring some silence into your lives, you know, just take it down and
[SPEAKER_00]: That arrow bit took a little bit too long for my taste.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I was just right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to take your arrow, you thought.
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't it didn't take up to a space you bring because I couldn't pay attention once the arrow was fired I was like, I don't give a fuck anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to know who's I do listen.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna agree with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: It did go on a season or two too long and I think like it peeked in season two But I don't know what is what is this and this is where we finally get pizza real corner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a twist
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you Alex, I like this as a one-two punch with the main rubber band hammer Thor construction worker Thor on Earth and this doing all of the myth stuff, doing all of the big high-drama melodrama stuff and when the arrow hits it was a bummer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a super bummer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also like, you know, one character's like Thor's dead and I was like, oh, I really
[SPEAKER_05]: didn't want that to be case of one of the hammer guy on a rope or to really be Thor so I think there's a good chance he is but I guess we'll see as we continue to read this comic and move up to the next one super creep show number one from skybouted image comics run by Kieran Gillen and Ryan North art by Rossi Gifford and Derek charm this is even more tales of superhero darkness
[SPEAKER_05]: Here we get one from Kirin, oh my god, I'm totally blank out of the Kirin Gilleworthy.
[SPEAKER_05]: The ride north one was about a super speedster, they're going to slightly stay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, a spider-man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Get it because the cover is a spider-man reference?
[SPEAKER_05]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you guys think about this?
[SPEAKER_05]: Spooky good times?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we should do more of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Spider-Man one was a story well told.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this idea has occurred to comic books before.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it wasn't like breaking any crazy ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the speedster story was a little more original and it's take, I thought, but equally horrifying.
[SPEAKER_02]: The art on both I thought was, I like that it was pretty different, but effective.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree that I really like to the big different tastes on the art.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like the first art had like kind of like an old school kind of comics vibe, which was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second one kind of almost had like a Archie comics kind of vibe, which was really fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the second one is Derek Charm who is done Archie comics.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think that's why they came through for a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, that's a great thing I picked up on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you sent it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all mine and they're somewhere, but yeah, I think two great stories want us to pause while you look that up We can stop talking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just like a little moment of silence You know sometimes it's nice to just take it down Yeah, people love silence in in their entertainment Are you are you are you want a jog right now stop?
[SPEAKER_05]: By the way, you're fitness always doing our wonders for my life
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to I want to be fatter.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the idea that we ever once was like hey anybody jogging stop Sit down take take a moment Candy and show where you are instead of running past it, you know, I mean
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, now we're going to that cheese steak is a good eat itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a good reverse health.
[SPEAKER_02]: Reverse health.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's our creep shows.
[SPEAKER_05]: Drone your cheese steak that ate itself.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh boy, call these guy about.
[SPEAKER_05]: OK, we will send deadpool number two for Marvel.
[SPEAKER_05]: My bedroom, Percy are not slayed Wilson.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, different person similar look different get confused.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is where the deadpool hangs out with Wolverine and Disdestroying out with Lobo He does this week on the stands.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey Sorry Alice's you were you you cut off.
[SPEAKER_00]: I cut you off when you're saying Jeff Shaw
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff Shaw.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so in this issue, Deadpool is getting messages, ostensibly for the future, predicting things so you can stop different crimes, and meanwhile Hammerhead is trying to track him down and find out what is up with him.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what's, that's the Deadpool news.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got some fun bits in here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, you know, the jumping out of the building with the mobility scooter was hilarious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that like Percy does a good job of like kind of capturing some Deadpool moments.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like sometimes a voice is a little off, but I think that like really felt like some great Deadpool moments in this comic, which I enjoyed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Art's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is kind of silly and fun and a nice combination of Deadpool here, so Enjoy this great subway stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I found it interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a panel that takes place Where the Liberty Mutual spots are shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I'm talking about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Interesting with Liberty Liberty Liberty Liberty yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: And add that was perhaps one of the most cheaply made commercials of all time that has become popular enough that there is continuity between the commercials.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, those two actors who mispronounce words, found each other, it's a beautiful thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are just watching not the same television but similar.
[SPEAKER_05]: Restylized number four from the image comics by Kyle Starks and this issue the heist is on as our team of X wrestlers trying to get revenge on a promoter who done them wrong make all the moves.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are we said this a lot of this podcast but there are twists and turns of plenty throughout here.
[SPEAKER_05]: just a well constructed heist that is a lot of fun there are some twists you can see coming but they're even more twists on top of that it's just one of my favorite books about the after month and like we talked about before when we talked Kyle about it he talked a lot about the back matter here and it is just great there's
[SPEAKER_05]: ridiculous ads.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's fun interviews like interview, let's like little piss bits going on there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just a really good package of a college.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a tight package.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing writing and art that fits so beautifully together to tell this tale.
[SPEAKER_00]: That I don't get tired of being in this world.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's interesting characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pulling for this highest even though.
[SPEAKER_00]: were kind of being told that the bag I know is about it, but they still can surprise us.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's really, really impressive and such a great read and every issue really delivers.
[SPEAKER_00]: This continues to be a blast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Kyle Stark's really doing it all.
[SPEAKER_02]: This week specifically, we have a lot of great titles.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with everything and such a pleasure to see his art is fun, bright art on display.
[SPEAKER_05]: And last but not least, Thundercats Silverhawks Road to War number one from Dynamite Written by Ed Bryson, Art by Gerardo Gamboone, Andrea Arcari, Chris Compania and Elton Thomas here.
[SPEAKER_05]: We are seeing what's up with the Thundercats, what's up with the Silverhawks and what's up with the Thundercats lost in time as they get on that road to War.
[SPEAKER_05]: How long will it take?
[SPEAKER_05]: Will they have to stop for guests?
[SPEAKER_05]: Will they have to stay overnight?
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll find out soon enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's precious because of the road to war in reality yeah, yeah, great point people yeah He always bringing the news into our proud.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think they're going to open up the straight of third earth?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what's tough, Justin, is we're on different sides of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm team Thundercat and your team Silver Hogg.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what you think is going to happen here, but I only write half of this because you are Saturday mornings.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had to decide what team you're on and I'm right or die.
[SPEAKER_00]: So is that you really only read half of this, Pete?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he just laughs and he doesn't answer it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing with this is I did like the Silver Hawks, but it was like always a show I saw like once and I was like that show was so cool And then seeing their reality they seem sort of like jerks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think it feels like it's supposed to be even But you're very much on the Thundercat side here
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, thundercats warm and cuddly fun fun silver hogs ice cold space mean yeah Yeah, and then there's the thundercats silver hawks that shop at this issue that I think of the thundercats lost in time We're now civil silver hogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I have that right that was my takeaway from it But you're talking to both of us like we know what's happening in this and I Because I would argue that the continuity that is laid out in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like I wouldn't start there
[SPEAKER_02]: because I would start as one rather than three in this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it a little while the amount of like, you know what's happening, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Wink and I was like, I do not understand your Wink.
[SPEAKER_05]: I actually, the part that I liked the best was the Thundercats lost in time and they're in like dark future and they're dressed as a silver hawks.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Focus on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that is a nice idea all around, but this definitely felt like this conversation is happening in this issue is they think we know more about it than we do.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, and that is it for the stack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll let's just turn back to them again There is even night again I want the beat That no don't mind With their promises And it's tomorrow It's better I don't listen It's not the problem
[SPEAKER_03]: They sit on graphic cultures and they let us see the moon And he's just a monkey, they're like a special guest speaker So grab your ring, hammer, don't be late for it, though Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair