[SPEAKER_01]: It's political, thinking, radical.
[SPEAKER_01]: You think it's far away, but you are the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_08]: Shotsmith, Pearson, Jody Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody!
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what day it is, you know what day it is, you know what day it is?
[SPEAKER_10]: Is it hump day?
[UNKNOWN]: Home day!
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you guys are looking at us like, oh my god, you guys are so silly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we're silly.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're having fun and we are glad you guys are having fun too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you by the way to everybody joining us here at the politics bar from whatever corner of the bar you happen to be coming in from.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you are coming back from WCPT AMA 20.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're welcome back.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are going to recap your elections from yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you by the way to everybody listening to us in the D2 or talk area in Tennessee or AM-950 for Minneapolis.
[SPEAKER_02]: Same Paul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to the folks in Atlanta.
[SPEAKER_02]: around Georgia listening on Georgia now radio and of course if you are listening somewhere else on the planet or even off planet on the space station on progressive voices radio worldwide.
[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate that as well or maybe maybe you are one of those future people exactly in which case thank you very much for listening on the podcast or if you haven't to be subscribed at the politics bar dot com remember it's six dollars a month and normally there are four weeks in a month but right now it's March madness.
[SPEAKER_02]: I still like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of cheesy, but it's funny because look, you know, five weeks in a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's a buck 50 a week and there are five weeks, it's even less.
[SPEAKER_02]: go.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to worry about the math.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just go check out the details to the politics bar dot com.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like your shirt today, Jody.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm Spess of Jody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Spicy Jody had sauce.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, it's available at Bob's Husker dot com.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who, by the way, bobs will be in exactly a little bit later, which is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe is that the the current version is that one that's been through the wash a few times.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, it's been through the wash.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had this for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe, he's like, yeah, this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: He died in my little.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I just went with a nice blue shirt today.
[SPEAKER_02]: In honor of yesterday, St. Patrick's day was was green.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although St. Patrick's color was originally blue.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys missed that, it was in yesterday's drink.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, and Lonnie drew me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I love his drawing of you, which is great with a with the hot pepper.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So look, we do have shirts that you can get at the politics part.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, Dan, come store.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure a lot of you, especially in Illinois, have gear from whatever candidates that you were supporting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have to say congratulations to everybody who won their election yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, good for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: my friend cat out of desire to not win, which is a bomber, but she only lost by three points.
[SPEAKER_10]: She did really really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: 26 year old, uh, this is her very first political campaign in anything and she only lost by three points and she's somebody that's well known there, correct?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Mayor Daniel Biss.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a mayor of, uh, camera, which tenants.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the, um, uh, bedroom communities around the Chicago area.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It might be it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And look, um, this is his, he is progressive as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I don't think, uh, if you compare to hypothetical, um, uh, representative Abogasala to representative Biss, uh, voting record in Congress, I don't think he'd find a whole lot of differences between them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, just like you don't find a whole lot of differences between many Democrats, Congress.
[SPEAKER_02]: Most of us are on the same page, which is a good thing because we want to move things forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: We want to have progress.
[SPEAKER_02]: We want to make the tax thing mix up.
[SPEAKER_02]: We want to keep our focus on affordability and obviously accountability.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the two things that Democrats want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are a lot of good Democrats that ran out there, obviously Lieutenant Governor
[SPEAKER_02]: as he I heard the ads for her look he he picked her to be his lieutenant governor for many reasons and many of those same reasons will work as she goes to the senate is very likely she will be there and quite frankly we may end up having three black women in the senate next year which would be very cool about time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't overdo plus you know any member of congress house
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... former vice president common Harris will be visiting them and that would be a nice little picture i'm sure there's wait now there somewhere in the future but congrats obviously to a lieutenant governor stratton uh... congrats to the end of this as well congrats to the list of being uh... picking up the Illinois eighth uh... it's a former house seat uh... very likely it's a very blue district a lot of good wins we have the full election results there in the news on tap in the first round election land returns tonight
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think the most important thing is that there are some lessons to be learned from this election.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not some of the lessons that you're going to see on the mainstream national TV media.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to hear it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the national radio stuff other than us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe a couple others.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you don't you don't always hear it.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of it is the it's the politics as blood sport.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the, oh, they did this and that and oh, by the way, the US lost in the world baseball class.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, look at that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Are 51.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give you a ding on that one, Jody, because it does, it where it has several times on Wikipedia, people have gone in and changed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're Donald did they say that he's the president of Venezuela.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, but we'll talk about that a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there are lessons to be learned from the election.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I don't think they are horse race lessons.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's it's sports lessons.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should be less confident.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: T mu is a was way too cocky.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, you know, when you're more confident than you should be, that's cocky.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, they, they were.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are some candidates who were too cocky as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some people who thought that that cat was too cocky.
[SPEAKER_02]: And no, she was not.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she was energetic.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I got no issue with that, and I wish more of our legislators would be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have said that many times where I want more vigorous representation, I just, that's what I'm want.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want people who want to get out there, then do what it takes to make sure that they get what we want done.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like some of the folks will be very good about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think we need to be paying attention to some of the lessons learned from last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: The folks who think of us as their enemies, the APAC folks, and quite frankly, the big money spenders, APAC spend what 21 million just in Illinois primaries.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the crypto folks spent some millions the a i folks not the same folks spent some millions there's a ton of money in it and there are a number of people in the national media who are saying what all i don't know why they spent all the money and i'm like well maybe you should find out because it's your job yeah maybe i happen to know those or i'm not worried they did it because they were testing the fences they knew that whatever democrat would win in the primaries in illinois
[SPEAKER_02]: their voting record was going to be virtually identical.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever is placed before them, when they are a member of Congress, or when they end up, you know, I mean, Governor Pritzker ran on a post to the Democratic primary.
[SPEAKER_02]: But his voting record for his next term is going to be pretty much the same as it was for this last one.
[SPEAKER_10]: The bills that he wants the- Right, when he wants to get done, is what he's going to push for.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, I mean, that's not going to be changed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, the big money interests saw a chance for them to play, to mess about in primaries, to see what type of not just ads, but what type of tricks and chicaneery would work in social media, yes, in some television ads, but also in online ads.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what would work among other things to get Democrats to fight each other?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: We learned a lot about that in 2016, first of all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: How exactly well did that work out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: It did not work out.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this, this is what they were doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And those folks, they play for keeps, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea that, oh, well, okay, they did it now they're going to go away because we're going to go into some more real elections.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you are in Texas, North Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi, or Illinois, congratulations, you don't have to deal with this again until the general.
[SPEAKER_02]: But everybody else, you got primaries.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we got one in June.
[SPEAKER_02]: mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even remember what ours is here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a mark on my calendar, but and we also have to have a vote here in Virginia before the 21st anyway, but that's not a story.
[SPEAKER_02]: The point is, everybody else in the country needs to be paying attention what the big money interest did with Democrats and getting Democratic voters try to fight each other in Illinois, because the bullcraft tactics they had, they're coming to your town, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna try this crap where you live.
[SPEAKER_11]: mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this has this, we have the story yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's in yesterday's news on tap.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was in Daily Coast.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a number of other places.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is some questions about this relationship status that he had.
[SPEAKER_02]: With this student, he was student teacher, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Puzzle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not going to downgrade it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I found it interesting that as soon as I was mentioning online, I'm like, well, congrats to him, but he still got a need to clean this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as I mentioned that,
[SPEAKER_02]: Bus guy doesn't normally have that many trolls, but damn, if I didn't, the trolls didn't come out of the walls and the woodwork and start trashing me and and start trashing the woman who came out the day before the election and said I she was trying to hold onto it as long as she could and she just couldn't anymore, she said this is my story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they were immediately doing the, well, pitch didn't know that kind of attitude, which I know that I know that pisses you off, but that was their attitude.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, excuse me, but, hey, your name isn't Daniel Biss.
[SPEAKER_02]: And B, if you think somebody like A pack is going to let that be in this current political atmosphere that they're not going to take that and try to run with that and try to
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to do that with everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are going to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Lieutenant Governor Stratton, one, but there's some hurt feelings because that was a hard ass race.
[SPEAKER_02]: And some of that stuff involved is, look, Russia, Christom Ruthie, spent a crap ton of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are some South Asian people who are pissed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are some black people who are pissed.
[SPEAKER_02]: because they thought that maybe she shouldn't be in, that it maybe should have been Robin Kelly, who was also a black woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some hurt feelings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Strands go have to men some fences.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Things like that, like with this in this relationship and stradden with these fences, these are, for those of you out there who are going, oh, it's just little things.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, this is no big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wave it off.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't think that APEC is going to pick that up and try to take that turn to a string, wrap it around the throats of those two,
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, also what the Republicans are good at, because eventually they will be running after the same thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: And do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: What they're very good at, though, is turning an asset into a liability.
[SPEAKER_10]: John Kerry, I mean, we've got people where decorated war heroes being called.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Swift boating.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clolen, too.
[SPEAKER_10]: Isn't it?
[SPEAKER_10]: McLean.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to use every single thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea that, yes, they are the opposition.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should not really think of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we have to be aware that they think of us as the enemy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And by that,
[SPEAKER_02]: they will do whatever it takes and clearly with the amount of money in the ads that they put out there they are going to be as dirty and as nasty and as horrible and it's going to be in every district around the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, I'm congrats to your folks like, let's have a governor stradden, Mayor Biss, that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But y'all got to clean your stuff up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clean it up, get it done, be responsible about it, say get it handled, whatever you got to do, do you do it, get that stuff cleaned up, and then move on and go kick the ass of the Republican.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, and for the rest of us who are out here in different places who are not in Illinois, understand that the crap in our friends in Illinois just saw
[SPEAKER_02]: they're gonna bring it to your town.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea that we can't be spot on tight have our gig line tight as we used to say the military.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but you gotta have everything tight.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Prussia T's dot your eyes, get that stuff down.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, oh, well, it's still big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Always.
[SPEAKER_02]: And especially because these are professionals, they know how to handle their business.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they can get it done and they will get it done.
[SPEAKER_02]: But wherever you are, whatever candidates you know, whatever corner of the country, make sure they're getting their business done too, because clearly with the money that was thrown in the Democratic primarys in Illinois, they're being its your town, and they're full one.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and don't forget the Russians.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, look, we got a lot more to talk about in the news on Tap and I Bob Cesca will be in.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have a very yummy, sticky, sloppy drink to talk about tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a song about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, we've got that in there too.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you know, you know, and if you don't, well, hang around, we'll get to it here in a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a Wednesday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here at politics bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday night here at the politics bar, we are still recapping elections and looking forward a little bit as well of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys know to do if you have any comments you want to make, you could always call us on the bar line and leave a voicemail or you can even text us 21367777758 that's 21367777758 or 213677 salt lacking your marker read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course you can also leave messages and comments as many of you do over on our social media platforms
[SPEAKER_02]: Instagram, Threads, Facebook, Substack, Twitter, YouTube.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are at the politics bar on all of those, which conveniently is where you are at.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, thank you for being here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate you guys hanging out here in the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, of course, we appreciate you not always throwing peanuts at each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's a fun, fun little thing that a few of you do here while you're in the bar, but you know, do not whip your peanuts up, it's all I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, there's a little bit more to the election stuff, both in Illinois, and I think it translates to other elections as well as that one I want to mention, because there is, there's a little problem with, well, you could see it in the Stratton Race, so it was two black women and a South Asian man, and there was a little bit,
[SPEAKER_02]: More than I mean, there's always going to be racism out there even on our side of the aisle of course, but there was a little bit more of that than is even look we're better than that people we should be.
[SPEAKER_02]: we should be.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we need to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't say that we're the better party without acting like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't go, well, you know, I understand, you know, that there's an issue with the women thing, which no women is women in the big picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's big chicks.
[SPEAKER_10]: What do they know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not a shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just your pretty little head, little lady.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to be better than that, um, and there are leaders who we can follow, women leaders matter of fact, uh, Mike Nellis over on Threads said, Hey, man, Elizabeth Warren won big last night in Illinois because she endorsed Stratton and she endorsed this today.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's endorsed Mallory McMarrow in Michigan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, look, Warren has one of the best records of endorsing candidates.
[SPEAKER_02]: She knows her stuff, which, she also would have been a great president.
[SPEAKER_02]: God, she would have been a hellish president.
[SPEAKER_02]: She would have been fantastic.
[SPEAKER_10]: She really would have been.
[SPEAKER_10]: She was my first choice.
[SPEAKER_10]: Conlow is my second.
[SPEAKER_10]: Pete Buttigieg is my third and Joe is my fourth.
[SPEAKER_02]: I totally, I totally would have loved to have a Warren Harris ticket.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God, what's this?
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been, I know, right, right, but look, and there are more people who are talking about 20, 28.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing is, you got to understand that
[SPEAKER_02]: As much as I am now great, Daniel, this one in the night, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but he was accused, incredibly.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a handle that particular issue and Stratton.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the Tinnock Governor Stratton, but there is still some racial tension going on there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's got handle that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And these are things that need to be cleaned up.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have other candidates in other places around the country who have issues, one of which I consistently see.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was seeing again, I've been seeing a wave of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's hit her once in a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know why the national media likes your governor so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe.
[SPEAKER_10]: She's, um, he swings both ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_02]: A little bit of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But also the fact that they have his phone number.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do.
[SPEAKER_02]: that the national media likes Newsom.
[SPEAKER_02]: The national political media folks like Newsom because they have his private many of them have his private phone number and his private email.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's also in the dark web like Donald Trump's because we really do need to call him.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a story we didn't include that you sent me and I laughed that a saying that Donald Trump's number, his phone number is so common here in the DC area of the bar that there are a whole lot of people who have it and if you know the right door to stick your head in, you could basically ask and somebody will give you Donald's direct number.
[SPEAKER_10]: Which I have heard, I heard that during his first regime, he'll answer anybody, perhaps somebody prank called him and said he was Bill Clinton the other day.
[SPEAKER_02]: There've been a couple of people who have, have done things like that with him in the past.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we don't have him here now, but we've played those kinds of things before.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've read the same column.
[SPEAKER_02]: The same time as soon as you call him secret service has your number and they will track everything down about you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Not if you do it through a VPN and you go, I mean, you can bounce stuff all over the place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there's no point.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm like, why, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have the chance to say anything to Donald Trump,
[SPEAKER_02]: that you could get away with saying to Donald Trump, not just anything because I know some of you were like, wait, I would say.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you could say anything and get away with this, and people go, I don't know what I would say.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're a tiny baby in a diaper.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I look at it and I go, it's pointless because no matter what anybody says, he's not got the eight, if it would be truthful and valuable to us, he would ignore it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I should tell him to smile more.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you do that at moments of vulnerability when he's out in a public with a bunch of everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Donnie, smile more.
[SPEAKER_10]: Or you know, pedophile and then he says something back.
[SPEAKER_10]: If somebody yelled pedophile, I wouldn't turn around.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the idea is there are people who are running in different elections or are running in the public conscience for the 2020, which I've told you guys before around here, I think you're back me up on this one, Joe, do you people need to be talking about 2026 elections?
[SPEAKER_10]: Way more important right now, way more important right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for those people who are a lot of times, Governor Newsom comes up.
[SPEAKER_10]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, then people say, well, who's going to replace Governor Newsom?
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys have like, like, what, like, 40 people in the room?
[SPEAKER_10]: And now we have, we have eight Democrats and two Republicans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you have a jungle primary system.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it is basically the top two are who you end up voting for one where the other.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it could be two Democrats or two Republicans.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it has, since we started this, it's mainly two Democrats, but we normally don't have eight Dems and two Republicans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's part of the reason why some people say that Lieutenant Governor Stratton won in Illinois.
[SPEAKER_02]: is that the black vote and the South Asian vote somewhat were kind of split.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the worry for Democrats in California.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, we've got, OK. Antonio Viragosa, who is my mayor for eight years, he's running.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think he's just dropping back.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have the support.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he doesn't.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, here in LA, I mean, LA, by the way, we suck when it comes to voting for mayors at best 25% of the city votes for mayor.
[SPEAKER_10]: And when he won, it was 25% of us, so he got 12 and a half percent of the city to vote for him that could vote.
[SPEAKER_10]: So first off, we suck when it comes to voting.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm just going to say it as a city we suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, Illinois was great in the early vote, especially around Chicago.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had record early turnout in their primary, but on voting day itself, it was a nice look.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, today, earlier, Jody, it was sunny and about 35 degrees at the DC area, DC into the bar here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was about that in Chicago yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: and yet their day of voting was down from the normal average.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're pre-voting was record early voting, but their day of people went, uh, I don't need to vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which means a lot of those people who have been sitting on the sidelines, we didn't convince them to get off the ass and vote.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, and so we've got, Mr.
[SPEAKER_10]: Via, we're going to say who I met once, very tall, by the way.
[SPEAKER_10]: Betty Yee, name recognition, I know who she is because I voted for her, but she's our state controller for, until 23.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, drop out.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're in California, you know, or maybe drop out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Then we've got Chad Bianco who is the Sheriff of Versailles.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's one of the Republicans running.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he's part core.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just extremist, maga, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: Then there's Eric's.
[SPEAKER_10]: Whoa, well, national name recognition.
[SPEAKER_10]: People love him up north.
[SPEAKER_10]: I like it down here.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think people down here know who he is.
[SPEAKER_10]: So that's stay in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: Stay in the race, Eric.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are just your recommendations.
[SPEAKER_10]: These are just me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: If I had control over who was going to drop out of this race, the first two Betty God bless her.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think she's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: not this time right.
[SPEAKER_10]: So Eric's well, and then we've got Katie Porter, also very well known as southern California versus he's more well known in northern California.
[SPEAKER_10]: And she's a badass, but she also had a little issue when she was running last time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are some questions about whether some of the media folks were actually trying to undercut her because they like her because she's a Warren person and they don't like her as well.
[SPEAKER_10]: But I say she should stay in.
[SPEAKER_10]: She and some
[SPEAKER_10]: and experience and experience both of them definitely have the experience and then you've got Matt and Han.
[SPEAKER_10]: He was the mayor.
[SPEAKER_10]: He is the mayor of San Jose.
[SPEAKER_10]: A cute young guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: Have no idea who he is.
[SPEAKER_10]: He knows that Southern California has no idea who he is.
[SPEAKER_10]: So he's going to try to let us know who he is.
[SPEAKER_10]: But maybe I get it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Run for.
[SPEAKER_10]: Assembly something for somewhere in the in the California Assembly or maybe try Or the California Senate or a house race not the governor, you know, so we can kind of get to know who you are that's not just I mean, he's adorable.
[SPEAKER_10]: He looks a little like Chris Gorman the actor In fact he could Chris could play him in a movie Then there's Steve Hilton also running as a Republican.
[SPEAKER_10]: I assume he's related to the Hilton family I've no idea.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's a former Fox News host
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have no idea who he is.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's a U.S. citizen so he can he's he's English But he became a citizen in 2021.
[SPEAKER_10]: So he can never become president Just everybody So I don't know if he's related to the health he's probably a cousin or something.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean that name is not that common and then we have Tom Stire
[SPEAKER_10]: huge name recognition and his ads are already out like crazy because he's got the money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's got his own money.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not he's not doing fundraising so much as he's got, you know, he's a bajillionaire and right.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I, you know, I like his message.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he might be good, but the long and short is that of these, this list of candidates, there's only a small handful.
[SPEAKER_10]: Tony Thurman, he's California's superintendent of public
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Dropout, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: If people don't know who you are, is obvious.
[SPEAKER_10]: The three that I would pick would be Katie Porter, Eric Saul, Wallwell, and Bessera.
[SPEAKER_10]: Those are the three that you know against the two.
[SPEAKER_02]: The series used to be our secretary of Ed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Annie used to be in Congress before that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he was our attorney general.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: So those are the three I would keep on for Democrats.
[SPEAKER_10]: The others just walk away.
[SPEAKER_02]: step back find another race that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: But these are some of the lessons that we need to be learning about all of this type of stuff because there's
[SPEAKER_02]: The folks who are on the other side are not playing around.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, and look, the fact is, the big money did hit a wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a great place on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, from Huff Post and also a piece from Paul Waldenman.
[SPEAKER_02]: And noting that the big money didn't get everything, they didn't win all the races of all the people that they were backing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But part of that was because they were just testing the fences.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't expect to win all the races this time.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were purposely putting money out there testing strategies, testing digital strategies, especially testing how they're going to pop up and appear in your social media feeds, testing how they're going to coordinate their TV and radio ads with the social media stuff.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, with your TikToks and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: and even more importantly, especially because so many of these groups had dark money groups, they were testing to see what kind of play they could get by getting Democrats posted against each other, fighting against each other, and so pissed off that people just go, I'm not going to vote.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that's what happened with Bernie and Hillary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're gonna play these games again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you have an election coming up like in California, one of the things y'all got to do, I don't care if they get them in a room and you know, give them pool noodles and you know, whoever whips the other ones asked most wins.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are I don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't either because we can have eight people running against two basically.
[SPEAKER_02]: Figure it out.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's how Donald got the nomination in 2016.
[SPEAKER_10]: He was running against so many people.
[SPEAKER_10]: 14 or 15 if I remember.
[SPEAKER_10]: Remember they had two sets of debates?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: The baby debates and the kids debate and the adults debates.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it was like, that's why he won.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So figure it out wherever you're at, whatever you do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just understand, right now was a great lesson from Illinois.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we thank them very much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't always be teaching us a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: They taught us a lot here with the ice monster.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the most important part of any good lesson is not just learning the lesson.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's applying the lesson with the next time comes up to actually.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, hopefully Mr. Martin is aware of this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Ken Martin, I hope so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope Ken figured it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, he's from Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's from a 950 country.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, he listens.
[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: there is more news from the news on tap updates from Donald's stupid Iran war oil asserts to $110 a barrel after the U.S. is really forces struck a gas field in Iran.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also Iran's intelligent minister was killed by Israel.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought that.
[SPEAKER_02]: gas wise price wise uh national average triple a national average today over 385 a gallon that's up 86 cents or more uh since the beginning of the war and that's the national average it could be up more where you are I know it's uh up or dollar a gallon in a Denver area diesel's up over five dollars a gallon now yeah and all the stuff that you drive or you get
[SPEAKER_10]: a lot of it does definitely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow 97 98% of runs on diesel.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are electric trucks and stuff for a lot of that stuff is still diesel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if they're paying more, you're not going to be paying more at the store.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a guarantee.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, here is around $6 a gallon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, and it's and it's cheaper in some areas.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think around the Gulf Coast, Gulf of Mexico, by the way, that it's a little bit cheaper.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that is, this is expensive and it's just
[SPEAKER_02]: Until somebody finds a way to get Donald to actually give up on this stupid ass thing so we'll talk more about his stupid ass War obviously also we're gonna be talking about some of the hearings that were held up on Capitol Hill today and the fact that the Trump economy sucks the course we got some good entertainment news and we have the drink the day coming up I realized you know I gave that information in a sloppy way, but that kind of works actually to drink the day so
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, clean up your stuff, don't be sloppy at your table.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be sloppy next with a drink of the day on this Wednesday night here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday night here at politics bar we are talking about the things we like to eat as well as drink look you know we do give you guys some food recommendations on occasion just it's one of the things we do the best way to catch up on all those kind of things we do food recommendations drink recommendations news recommendations you got to subscribe and subscribe to politics bar dot com six dollars a month as we've said march math this yes less than a buck fifty week this month especially
[SPEAKER_02]: Or you could just do the annual subscription, and then it's always less than six bucks a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you get the podcast ad-free, you get the news on tap, which tells you what's going on for the day, and you get the drink of the day with the recipe, you only get the recipe if you subscribe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's the smart thing to do, and you are smart.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care what that idiot down at the bus stop said.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're smart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then go pound sand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just make do the smart thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go subscribe at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, some people are like, that was kind of funny, but you know, might have been a little bit messy the way you said that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, I'm trying to stick with the theme, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm bummed.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's giving me that sure Jan, you know, from the Brady Boucher.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, Jan. Sure, Jan. What is the drink of the day and what is the inspiration for it?
[SPEAKER_02]: That will help people understand why what we've been joking about.
[SPEAKER_10]: It is a sloppy joke cocktail or because of you, a mock tale as well.
[SPEAKER_10]: I try to help out that way.
[SPEAKER_10]: I appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's inspired by National Sloppy Joe Day.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I didn't know they had a day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't either until you posted this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was really like what?
[SPEAKER_10]: I was like, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: When you posted this earlier, Rainy over here in the Loose Guy corner of the bar, she looked at it, looked on her phone, and looked.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she says, oh, this is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it sounds so dirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just said, well, if only dirty, if you do it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: What Sean Lewis Smith just says when you have the the sloppy in this and though the I mean you're going to make a sloppy Joe you better get it messy.
[SPEAKER_02]: We we we we were talking about that with the burgers if you if you just make a burger and some people use like the ultra lean like the you know 95% fat free and then they go how come there's not very much taste because the taste is in the fat yes that's why people add fat that's why people have a lot in their or used to have large in their homes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but also you know, you said you do a lot of marinades or marinades.
[SPEAKER_02]: You mean, you know, you put if somebody or if they cut it with say mail or mustard fat in them or they they brush it with butter, which is a fat that's that's where the flavor is that's why those of you that are lactose intolerant when you go to a restaurant you think something doesn't have fat it does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe, he's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, fats and sugars are really a lot of where a lot of taste is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that the last century, especially post World War II, there was a lot of business that was involved in making things cheaper and easier and quicker.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, that's really where Sloppy Joe's came from.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love the whole history that you got on the list.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I added a little piece because I looked and I was like, wait a minute, I thought I had heard something because see, when I was in Iowa, I heard about the Maid Wright one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: How they thought it started at Maid Wright location in Sue City.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then I remember hearing about a discussion about it coming from Cuba.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I had to look that up and sure enough, there's another theory that says Sloppy Joe's came from a Havana Cuba bar owner named Jose Sloppy Joe VA Otero.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't there, but you guys can read the history and judge for yourself.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know who I'd have been there, Francis Caller, because she is that old.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody.
[SPEAKER_10]: According to Angela V. Shelton, every time she's like, how old are you?
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that is.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is, I would just say, I will have to say when, when Francis and Angela come back to the bar some time, which we hope to get them back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would just have to say, she's experienced.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I'm older than both of them, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but you were not older than the sloppy Joe.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I am not as far as you know Ah, look, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I you're your youngsters, especially if if somebody just looks at you.
[SPEAKER_02]: There'd be like, oh, what she's like, you know 50 You're like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure Sir Jan, she gives me that look again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: The ingredients for sloppy Joe's.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have that in there too.
[SPEAKER_02]: They became popular.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love how you got some of the advertising about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, if you're wondering, man, which is a sloppy Joe mix in a can.
[SPEAKER_10]: It is.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's how you make them.
[SPEAKER_02]: that the uh... the but they got and the grocery store my neighborhood both still have it which is really cool and for those of you are like god now you've been saying sloppy joe for like ten minutes uh... i keep thinking of that adam sandler song from from saturday night last slapping joe slapping joe conveniently we happen to have that song
[SPEAKER_02]: in the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's politics.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you were personally, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, it's absolutely hilarious.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, Kevin Neilen coming in as the big sloppy Joe sandwich was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys can watch that if you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I am getting a little bit thirsty, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, for those of you wondering, you can make sloppy Joe's with impossible meats, or you can even do it as a vegan.
[SPEAKER_02]: So sloppy Joe's can be great and tasty and sloppy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they do not have to be just meat-based.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, everybody can have a sloppy job.
[SPEAKER_10]: I make a really good chili without beans that is vegan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm down with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm down with, you know, I don't think anything bad comes from it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can say that I don't think anything bad comes from your kitchen.
[SPEAKER_02]: You would be like, well, but I, this is, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: I make a really good lasagna and I have a really good, four hour chili takes four hours in a crock pot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but then all the seasonings get in the beans
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's based on Weener Schnitzels recipe, but I use smart ground instead of beef.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, it's important because I use beef and pork and I eat just use smart ground in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can make a possible meat stew, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yep, I've done that too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, see, we also do for the drinks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We make sure you guys can have it, whether you're having the alcohol or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a sloppy joke cocktail and a sloppy joke cocktail.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, Jodi, how do we make these wonderful drinks?
[SPEAKER_02]: Pre-chilled, cooclass?
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, pre-chilled.
[SPEAKER_10]: everybody do it everybody you know we we're going to need a shirt pre-chilled I'll think of something I'll have Lonnie think it's something shaker ice for the cocktail version you need an ounce of light white rum charcoal filtered one to four years old so you want it to be tasty
[SPEAKER_02]: Good stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: Fluid ounce of driver mooth, a third of of an ounce of orange kurosau, the cure, so it's got a kind of, yeah, that's for the cocktail.
[SPEAKER_10]: For the other version, it's an ounce of liars white rum alternative, an ounce of liars for mouth alternative, and a third ounce of liars orange sec.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, y'all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very similar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Profiles, I love that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, and again, I've had all of the wires.
[SPEAKER_10]: The stuff is good.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_10]: It tastes not exact, but close enough, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was talking with a friend of mine Mallory about that today.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, uh, that sounds really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, talk more about them coming up at some point down the road.
[SPEAKER_02]: We hope so.
[SPEAKER_02]: What else do we add?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we have the cocktail in the mock tale, but then there are some other things that are added regardless of which version.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: You need a quarter ounce of grenadine, a six of a ounce of rich syrup, which is different than simple.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's two, two sugar to one water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Otherwise, simple as one to one, just so you all know.
[SPEAKER_10]: Two thirds of amounts of lime juice always freshly squeezed, and you garnish with a lime wedge.
[SPEAKER_10]: So what you do is you shake all your ingredients for either one with ice, you strain into your coop glass, and you garnish with your lime wedge.
[SPEAKER_10]: And enjoy your sloppy joe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Enjoy your sloppy joe's, and if you're gonna be sloppy here at your table, please grab a bar rag and clean up your mess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your parents do not work here.
[SPEAKER_02]: big thanks to everybody who helps us and suggests things on this and if you missed any part of the drink of the day, you know what to do, go subscribe to the politicsbar.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, entertainment, we are in the entertainment portion of the evening because we usually do that around the time we do the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the entertainment section today, federal judge has ordered voice of America to restart all news operations and they have been ordered reinstated 1,000 plus employees cut by
[SPEAKER_10]: I hope he ordered them to get back pay, but he probably didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't read through the order fully, but I would not be surprised.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am just unlaffing because the Trumpers are getting sucked on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And remember yesterday, we were talking...
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, brain fart here.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's CBS stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were saying that these CBS workers had Street.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was streaming workers.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's streamed out.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had contract talks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Barry Weiss was being her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Barry Weiss knows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, no, and the CBS evening news viewership, remember evening news used to be, I remember it too long ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said that evening news used to be about 12 million people in night.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's down now to somewhere between about six and eight million, unless you're at CBS, and then it's below four million.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is what happens when you become state television, especially over the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: and especially when there are other options available.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, subscribing to the news on tap where you can just read through it in two minutes and you don't have to deal with any right wing, but yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, and you know, and I don't think they care.
[SPEAKER_10]: I honestly, I don't think CBS cares.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the owners.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, listen, don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the people who make this stuff care.
[SPEAKER_10]: They do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they are many of them are frustrated and many of them have left.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I understand and I'm glad that they have left.
[SPEAKER_02]: because, you know, people like Scott McFarland who excellent journalist and I'm glad that he is no longer shackled by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm glad that I heard today that I didn't get this in there that on a Cabrera is leaving MS now, which is a bummer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like on a Cabrera.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, she's more of a presenter.
[SPEAKER_02]: She has done more journals in past, but she's more of a presenter.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know what she's doing, but I like it when good people do their jobs well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I hate it when good people are hamstrung by a corporate group, who says, you shouldn't be able to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might make someone mad.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like, news used to be a loss leader.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: For not for newspapers, mind you, but for networks that that was like the evening news, the local news didn't have to make money because it was true in like Brendan Car said, it's supposed to be good for the community.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which, I mean, yes, there is the public service obligation, but like we were talking with the military yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the fact that it look,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's still, there are other places in the world that do it, and we need to do it for democracy's sake.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to be doing good news.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need, I don't want to say good news.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to be doing news well.
[SPEAKER_10]: Accurate news.
[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, at the call, there you go.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's just, it's like, the cronkite to the world, even if they exist right now, are not going to work for the elephants.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_10]: God, or Comcast or Disney.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're just not going to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them, I mean, look, and you can get away with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think at certain places.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think to some degree at ABC News to a greater degree.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can, but it's, it's a lot harder to be working for one of the big corporates these days.
[SPEAKER_02]: And having the integrity on it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, because news now is supposed to make money like,
[SPEAKER_10]: prime time TV is supposed to, and it's like, no, this is the news.
[SPEAKER_10]: It should not matter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of TV, the Oscar rating fell 9% from last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: They still had 17.9 million viewers, so I wouldn't be looking at gift wars in the mouth.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, I know what they're going to YouTube next year, aren't they?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it next year of the year after that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I say it's 27, which I still think is a dumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some new trailers out.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's one for doing three.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's one for Spider-Man brand new day.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's one that I put in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you think about this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Val Kilmer has been resurrected by AI with his family's black now to star in a movie that he always wanted to star in, but his cancer diagnosis didn't allow him to.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, I think his son is probably going to voice it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like he did, did you see the documentary?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I have not seen that documentary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I've seen the, the parts in Top Gun 2.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, in the, in the documentary about his dad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_10]: He, voices his father.
[SPEAKER_10]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: But his father was alive when that was going on though.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's father wanted to do this film and his family has said that they understood that they wanted to and so there's a supportive of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it puts me in that box tour.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I don't quite know how what I think about that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's up to them and it's their estate and all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have the control.
[SPEAKER_02]: It shouldn't just be up to some tech bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go on.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, or the filmmaker.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look we've got the story there you guys can read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have obviously a lot more news on tap and we got Bob Cesska coming in and you guys everybody loves So he will be here coming up fresh in your drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do what you got to do down the hall whatever We'll be right back.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's Wednesday night here at politics bar
[SPEAKER_08]: Let it go!
[SPEAKER_01]: Pink, pink, red it go!
[SPEAKER_01]: You think at the far, wherever you are The politics march!
[SPEAKER_08]: Shocksmith Pearson, Joey Hamilton Our toast journey!
[SPEAKER_10]: See, senior!
[SPEAKER_02]: See, seniorita?
[SPEAKER_02]: See, I am bueno.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yo?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be better than one Bob gets here.
[SPEAKER_10]: I know, we love Bob.
[SPEAKER_02]: We love Bob.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob is a great Bob Cesco.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be in obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have more news on tap to talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have some other good guests coming up soon as well tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, John Fugle sang will be in.
[SPEAKER_02]: And next Tuesday, Jen Kirkman and Jared Rizzy will be here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that should be, I'll be interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, I don't think they'll be here at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But still, that should be very interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for all of us who, uh, all of you who are joining us here at the bar from whatever corner of the bar you're coming in from whether you are coming in from Georgia now radio in the ATL or maybe you're listening on the detour talk in Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you got your ears tuned to AM950 Minneapolis Saint Paul or AM820 Chicago WCPT or progressive voices radio worldwide wherever you happen to be or maybe you are a
[SPEAKER_02]: In which case, we're very glad you're listening to us whenever this happens to be coming out of the speakers or your headphones, whatever that's all go.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do tend to recommend that you subscribe over to politicsbar.com, though, $6 a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a tip.
[SPEAKER_02]: It goes into a Jodie's pocket and my pocket.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it helps us do things like, you know, buy stuff to make sloppy chose.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And for those of you who know, you know, and for those of you who don't, you should subscribe and then you know, just say.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right back to the news on tap for this Wednesday evening a little bit more in that entertainment section so Venezuela beat the US three two in the ninth inning it was ninth inning top of top of the ninth double look the the US team was good a with above me a little bit online last night that some people were really kind of rooting against the United States and yet they're Americans and I'm like I get it
[SPEAKER_02]: The U.S. team was cocky, but at the same time, I'm like, come on man, you know, that's just, that's, who is on the U.S. team like a bunch of Dodgers?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bunch of professionals.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, oh, God, what else is name?
[SPEAKER_02]: as Yankees, it was a guy with a hell of a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now now you're trying to make me list the people on the team and I literally I can see their faces and I just cannot remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: I didn't watch, so I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, some cocky players, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the fact of the matter is it was just it's like, okay, they got beat by some other professional, some other major league baseball players who were on the team from Venezuela.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are there were major league baseball players from the Japanese leagues and from our league where we where we have players from Venezuela and Japan and everywhere else here so I you know I mean it's
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of fun, but the world baseball classic is it's just, it's a way to get people interested in baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, I think it did.
[SPEAKER_02]: The chairing was loud, so it's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: W NBA, by the way, they have a new collective bargaining agreement.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got the details on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can check a look at that as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: thinking of bargaining agreements and labor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go up to the third round of the news on tap in the section Republicans can't govern.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the inflation reports for February came out today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, wholesale prices rose seven tenths of percentage February.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was mostly before the war started.
[SPEAKER_11]: mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: This, this, this was, this is not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was so not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was the reaction of the folks on Fox.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could do the one of Fox business, technically.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really, really not happy about this inflation report.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know it's one data point.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Fed looks through it.
[SPEAKER_04]: We try to look at two or three month trends, but this does not look good to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't like sitting here after everything we're talking about and saying,
[SPEAKER_04]: is guaranteed 95% chance to get worse than what we saw.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, they at least tell the truth occasionally on Fox business because they have to.
[SPEAKER_10]: Because they're business thing and it's safe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Numbers don't lie, but I'll tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So John of an Allen works for MS now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've known him a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He used to come to Bill Prestos show all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was interviewing a woman in Pennsylvania at a gas station.
[SPEAKER_02]: She has a different take on the economy, and I think hers may be a little bit more direct, would you say, Jody?
[SPEAKER_02]: I would go with that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you could say something to President Trump, he was going to hear you right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: What would it be?
[SPEAKER_06]: You were a worthless pile of shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you voted for him many times.
[SPEAKER_06]: Three times.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was my bad, apparently I'm an idiot.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: She admitted it.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, leave your hear folks.
[SPEAKER_10]: Welcome to the crew.
[SPEAKER_10]: Come on, get in the back of us.
[SPEAKER_10]: You ain't driving it, but you're welcome on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody is correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, seriously, people.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is this is the Maga folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are finally, look, we've talked about rabbit pills a lot recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly, they are getting smarter and congratulations to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, the economy sucks, and it's going to get worse because Donald still is screwing around with this jackass war in Iran.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he still has JD Davenport out trying to sell this damn thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a Vance I believe today.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you might have been in Ohio trying to sell this here.
[SPEAKER_05]: 14 months in.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that we've got a lot to be proud of.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly don't.
[SPEAKER_10]: Killing two American citizens in broad daylight.
[SPEAKER_10]: Browning has people gas prices.
[SPEAKER_10]: Everything is on inflation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he got asked at this public event, this little dog and pony show, he got asked a question about this and basically like, hey, you know, what do you say to people like that woman who are mad about the price of their gas prices, this was Vance's response.
[SPEAKER_05]: gas prices are up and we know they're up and we know the people are hurting because of it and we're doing everything that we can to ensure that they stay low right I will say the president said this and I certainly agree with it this is a temporary blip okay what happened under the Biden administration was a long time ago is over a year ago exactly sorry JD this is all on use we cheeks
[SPEAKER_02]: All you guys had to do was no harm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't screw things up and the economy would have been a lot better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we wouldn't have been in another war, but no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to keep trying to be shoveling that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you think that they will get away with blaming Biden for much longer?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think they're going to keep trying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's, that look.
[SPEAKER_02]: one of the things that JD JD is in a similar position to Kamala Harris literally and figuratively.
[SPEAKER_02]: People who would dog on Kamala Harris because well, she's running for president now in her 107 days.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's running and why can't she just tell Joe to pound sand?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because among other things, she was still the sitting vice president.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was
[SPEAKER_02]: For whatever measure of friendship that J.D.
[SPEAKER_02]: and Donald have, I suppose there is something there, but he is in the same position.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's already telling people quietly in a DC area, well, I don't really believe in their ran war, but we're going along with Granby Donnie, because that's what he believes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Because he wants to run for president, but Donald is now promoting Marco.
[SPEAKER_02]: which JD is aware of and JD can't go too far away from Donald because he's the setting vice president.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same story all over again.
[SPEAKER_10]: I wonder how many times he calls Mike Pence.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think probably that they've got Donald has Mike Pence's number blocked from the White House.
[SPEAKER_10]: But JD's probably got it on speed dial.
[SPEAKER_10]: No
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... he stays at uh... the uh... naivie observatory uh... house cross the street uh... yeah and he's at the observatory that's that's the the vice president's house which whatever but i i understand vance being insecure and and that there were a couple people in capital hill today that were also a little bit insecure uh... d and i tell see gathered was grilled along with some of the other uh... national security officials in some hearings there's more congressional hearings on that uh... later this week
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that it was worth anything, you know, listening to her, I mean, look, she just gave BS.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, as she didn't believe in going to war with Iran in 2019, she's she at least has polished up if not improved her skills about dancing around and dancing out of questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: but you weren't going to get a straight answer from her just like most of the time with most past DNIs and things.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the reasons these hearings didn't used to be a big deal is because they would be asked these questions and the people who are in these positions like the DNI would say their stuff I can't really say.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they dance their way around it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not surprised.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a whole lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was, however, a hearing confirmation hearing for Mark Wayne, pick an A and Mullen.
[SPEAKER_02]: How the hell do you have a, we're going to name a kid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what are you on naming?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why won't a name in Mark?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't name in Wayne.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't name in Mark.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't name in Wayne.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a solution.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Mark Wayne Mullin had his confirmation hearing and the committee that actually overseas that is helmed by Rand Paul.
[SPEAKER_10]: Rand Paul is being weirdly somebody I listen to now and I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It bothers me a little bit too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rand Paul is very much a libertarian in a whole lot of ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not a big fan of, of, look, you can, you can be a libertarian, believe what you want to believe, but I tend to disagree with a lot of, but libertarians believe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think a lot of, a lot of them being realistic about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Bye, agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, and this particular case, so they were,
[SPEAKER_02]: they were grilling as they should.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, because they're like, look, we don't want another Christy known to be in the same position.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things we've got a piece of the news on tap that actually talks about this, that basically Rand Paul was questioning Mark Wayne Wollin has the temperament to lead DHS.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you knew that Mark Wollin used to be a UFC fighter.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think I knew that, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Doesn't surprise me because
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, Sean O'Brien of the unions.
[SPEAKER_02]: He tried to pick a fight with the act.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, Rand Paul was literally quizzing about that fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Today is after here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me explain this.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me explain this.
[SPEAKER_07]: And which you justify the violence as historically justified by precedence, such as caning and dueling.
[SPEAKER_07]: Is it today, your opinion, that the caning of Charles Sumner was not only justified, but argues still for resolving our political differences with violence?
[SPEAKER_00]: What I was simple to point out is some of the rules that still apply to this body.
[SPEAKER_00]: For instance, Dueline with two consenting adults is still there.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was pointing out what is still legal for 170 years.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's no precedent for legal dueling.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god, that's just so dumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: I charged you to a duo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I charged you to a duo, Bob Sasko, who came in while we were playing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was that stupid?
[SPEAKER_02]: Was that somebody dumbest-ass stuff?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we should get the idea that dueling is still a thing, eh?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Wayne, well, when you used to be a UFC fighter, so he's still in that mode of- Oh, yeah?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, just a great one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pick a fight with you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Didn't my cousin die from a duel, Aaron Burr, shot my cousin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alexander, yes, specifically.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a whole song.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like, in fact, a whole song.
[SPEAKER_02]: So musical about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you are, Jody is correct on that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Bob Cesca is here, which we are fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has a fantastic shirt that says, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, it's the band.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the band's, it's a good shirt, anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about his shirt and Jody shirt, which you can get in Bobcesska.com, by the way, excellent shirts involved.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can also get shirts of hours from the politics bar at the politics bar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of places to get shirts, but there's only one Bobcesska.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is here on a Wednesday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're obviously going to talk about the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_02]: And about some of that election stuff from Illinois, and obviously, Donnie's latest stupid war and the next war that he wants to fight, we'll talk about all of that in more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Freshing your drinks and come on back, it's a Wednesday night with Bob Syska here at Politics Bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a Wednesday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you regular around here know what that means.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is time for the one, the only idea of a pop pop.
[SPEAKER_02]: like, whoa, it's a little Bob Cesca.
[SPEAKER_10]: What was that?
[SPEAKER_02]: People get real excited when you come in, Bob.
[SPEAKER_02]: People get really, really excited.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, where was the little voice?
[SPEAKER_10]: Who said Bob Cesca?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's a button that I can press on here, which turns everything into helium.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want me to press it again, I can.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's this boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, yeah, everyone, I need that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need that for my show.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a like, I mean, true.
[SPEAKER_03]: If I could do live.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you could.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's, it's very bizarre.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I occasionally bump that one with my hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they, you know, it's, it's kind of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You sit there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You suck it in and you're like, Oh, my.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're sure it's going to have to... Yeah, you got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm jealous.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a few fun toys.
[SPEAKER_02]: What can I say?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't have all the toys.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, you gave us the clown music.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we absolutely love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course there there is this little cut.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I can't remember if Stephanie is actually played this one for you anytime recently or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's got this Lindsey Graham cut that she's been playing recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm actually the one who created that funny.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, if you heard this one about here.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna be on our knees.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna blow that hell out of these people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Best bunny ever spent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, are you allowed to play that on the radio?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we just did, and we've done it many times.
[SPEAKER_10]: On her show, she played it like...
[SPEAKER_10]: I would say yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: So much last week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if I were to say, okay, I'm not, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not even going to repeat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I was just going to repeat what...
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if you want, I'll let Lindsay release it here, Bob.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's fine here.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to be all our needs.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to blow that hell out of these people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Best money ever spent.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if I were to say, Lindsey Graham just said he's going to blow the hell out of people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I took that from a single single interview that he had with Maria Bartromo on Fox business.
[SPEAKER_02]: And all of those everything here that was said is within about 90 seconds.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you're sitting there and you hear all that in 90 seconds, and it's, you know, interspersed between the other stuff, you're like, I'm just going to get rid of the other stuff and take it down to what he's actually wanting to say.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just want to know how drunk he was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it's entirely possible, but I, you know, speaking of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen the clip of Alex Jones on the Timpool?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I have not, not.
[SPEAKER_03]: What, what was, what was this particular slurring words?
[SPEAKER_03]: All, I mean, I'm sure he was hammered because that's Alex Jones.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but he was like, oh, she's was a man.
[SPEAKER_03]: And at one point, Jim Polas, how old are you, Alex, and Alex immediately starts choking?
[SPEAKER_03]: You start, okay, and you go, he's only 50, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's 52.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's 22 years younger than I am.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, that's the whole idea is that he's asked what his age is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he can't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: He'd be getting to emphasize his age.
[SPEAKER_03]: He
[SPEAKER_02]: by talking on something and this is prior that slurring is not a age is not necessarily a barrier.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked to this before with with candidates and things in the sense of, you know, some people say there needs to be age limits.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, there was the big argument over Joe Biden's age.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there is a there is the discussion going on right now in Maine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Illinois had their primaries and they did very good with their primaries.
[SPEAKER_02]: We, you know, we liked mostly in things that it came out.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some lessons we talked about early probably talking about it again, but
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing that I have a problem with is that, Janet Mills, the current governor, she's running for Senator.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's definitely not like Alex Jones.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, she's what, 80?
[SPEAKER_10]: Something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's very sharp still, very energetic.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm like, okay, that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they've got Graham Platner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who lies, I mean, maybe he does do fishing, but he tries to, you know, present himself as the blue call they're working in.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not really, he comes from a family with money.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has that giant Nazi tattoo that he kind of got partially right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Bob Shaking has said, like, are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is, is that the Democrats there in Maine are like, well, but she's old.
[SPEAKER_02]: and a woman, yes, she has, she's a woman.
[SPEAKER_10]: She can have her period.
[SPEAKER_10]: Wait, what?
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, she doesn't do think that.
[SPEAKER_10]: That we're in over for age.
[SPEAKER_03]: That still have that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the, I just want, I want to be clear that I'm not criticizing anyone who's older.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just saying that Alex Jones is 52, but he looks like he's 72.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the good one.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he's in terrible, terrible shape.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right, so being younger than I am, younger than I am, younger than I am, younger than I am, seven years.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's certainly a barrier, but when somebody abuses the hell out of themselves, like Alex Jones, that's the barrier.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's, that's the barrier.
[SPEAKER_02]: And and people are people are making fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were talking about the elections from from Illinois.
[SPEAKER_02]: My friend Kat Abigailela.
[SPEAKER_02]: She only lost to Daniel best by three points.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is our first campaign 26 first campaign as a candidate ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: She only lost by three points.
[SPEAKER_10]: She's a force.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you do know that there were paid propagandists online.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I should say absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll find it to bash Catabagus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, yes, she found it about that late.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the internet researcher, they've got it MS now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm blanking on her name right now, but she's brilliant.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's to be a librarian.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's going to discover it and let Cat now about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, even with all of that and all of the money, a pack puts $21 million into the Democratic primary campaigns in Illinois.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Most of it was aimed at cat and Daniel Biss, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet there are people who are like, well, the day before the election, a young woman came out, who said when they were in college, Danny Viss was like, I think in grad school or something, and he was a grad teacher, and she was younger, and they had a thing, and there's some questions there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there were people I was coming out on, you know, Blue Sky last night, mostly, and Threads, and saying, look, you know, I'm glad he won, but now he needs to clear this crap up,
[SPEAKER_02]: where before we all knew that he had a great big giant Nazi tattoo and that he wasn't really a working class guy that he came from money that, you know, people in Maine were like, oh, you know, working class, so he's a working class fisherman and, and then they fed him a Nazi tattoo and some of them were like, well, and I'm like, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: No Nazi tattoos.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do not take Nazis.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are certain lines.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't take racist.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't take Nazis.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're a misogynist, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we got to get those out of the party too.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a nice day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go do something else.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know so in this case with this he's got this problem and I was just saying well great he won he's got to clear this this issue up he's got to go talk to the person he's got to make a public statement whatever he has to do whatever he needs campaign people have to do to figure it out clean it up get it done get on and go beat the hell out of the republican they they need to hire a
[SPEAKER_02]: Or Olivia Troy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, I heard she knows what she's doing to, but the fact of the matter is that I suddenly got just bombarded by a bunch of trolls and they were saying things that were the equivalent of, well, bitch deserved it, which just made me one of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, so, you know, I, one of the big reasons I'm also proud of Cat, not just because she's my friend and she ran a great campaign, but one of the things that she did that was so great during the campaign.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had her here three times I think three, I believe.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she talked about the fact that she was running a mutual aid station from her campaign, where wherever she had campaign headquarters in campaign sites, she was running a mutual aid station, help people.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you needed some food, if you needed some clothes, if you needed diapers, she was helping people before she was ever elected.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she, yes, she didn't win the primary.
[SPEAKER_02]: So in this case, maybe she'll run again.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the idea that there's only one way to run,
[SPEAKER_02]: By chasing money, I'm gonna go do another dinner with people of $1,500 a plate.
[SPEAKER_10]: Who weren't some people complaining that she was doing that?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, well, yes, yes, you're right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now go ahead, she's helping the community and people that were not for her were against her helping the community.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't either.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I look at it and say, I'm proud of her because, among other things, she showed everybody you can do this a different way.
[SPEAKER_10]: And she's only 26.
[SPEAKER_10]: She's a baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She'll be back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: She could be my granddaughter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the fact that that, well,
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you were doing back then, but I'm just saying.
[SPEAKER_10]: Depending on when I had a kid, which I had, she definitely would be a very young daughter of mine if I had one.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I look at it just say, the fact that she lays the trail and showed other people, but we also need to learn lessons like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't all have to campaign by going out and saying to the billionaires, please, I have a bajillion dollar, so I can campaign.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't.
[SPEAKER_10]: We don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she came out and said, I hate this, but the way that the game, the rules are now, if we get elected, we can change the rules of the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But until we get elected, we cannot change the rules of the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you had any thoughts on the election, that one or any of the elections that are coming up, are you worried about any elections this year?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, other than, you know, some of the basic stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, not a particular.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, in fact, feeling pretty optimistic is one of the only areas where I'm feeling some sort of opin' and almost to the point where I hope that there are more reasons that come along.
[SPEAKER_03]: If there is any upside to some of the damaging destructive things that Donald is doing right now, good Lord, the alliteration and what I just said.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just noticed that.
[SPEAKER_03]: but I hope there is some upside to all of the destruction.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so far as people will begin to react to that and punish the Republicans and punish Donald Trump by delivering overwhelming majorities for the Democrats coming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, did you, did you, did you see, did you see the peace mob that there was a woman that Jonathan Allen interviewed at a gas station in Pennsylvania?
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a clear man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that's indicative of a lot more Donald Trump voters who may be, I don't expect them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't expect that woman or anyone else like her to vote for Democrats in the fall.
[SPEAKER_03]: But maybe say, well, maybe to stay home, or vote for an independent candidate or something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if they're doing it for a Democrat, I'm fine with that too.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, but I'm not expecting that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't expect any maga people to suddenly switch over and vote for Democrats.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are lots of fence hitters, lots of undecided votes, swing voters, who will certainly do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't expect the maga faithful to change party affiliation or anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nick, what is this telling them?
[SPEAKER_03]: Stay home.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're dissatisfied with a Republican party, you're dissatisfied with Donald Trump's stay home.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the key.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I want to urge them to do if they're
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I just, I, I've been looking at, there are some people who've been dissing the idea that MAGA is splitting into MAGA and America first, and they go, oh, it's not that big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're all still racist.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all still sexist.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all still monsters and a whole lot of ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: If Donald Trump told me to do most things, the most of the time, but it's important to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I tell them because
[SPEAKER_02]: they don't believe him on the war anymore because he said no more wars and others more is now you know trumpets to go be at war in in Cuba yeah let's do another one there and he said you know he'd release all the Epstein files and of course right joddy yeah she's like where are they yeah exactly and but those small things could peel off um G. L. E. Morris over at strength and numbers did the numbers here over the last week or so and said basically could peel off 10 percent
[SPEAKER_02]: if if that's a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if that split had happened and he ran the numbers back from from 24 and he said Donald Trump would only gotten 47% of most.
[SPEAKER_02]: Still too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which would have meant the comments.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't disagree with that, but you know what, we can't change the rules if we don't win.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to win first.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if that means that
[SPEAKER_02]: We get some of them to sit on their ass at home for an election or two, maybe they can, I don't know, read something.
[SPEAKER_10]: Or listen a Nick Quintess.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's saying vote for Democrats, then not to be saying vote for Democrats.
[SPEAKER_02]: When did you ever think that you'd say listen to Nick Quintess?
[SPEAKER_10]: Never.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going back to what I was saying before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that we're back to that again, back to MAGA people voting for Democrats.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there is a distinct possibility that Democrats could make a strong enough case for being the party of working people for this finally that they could peel off some Magavoters But what are you saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, you're saying that Democratic Party could take back the mantle of being the party of working people
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, I've been saying that for like a year now that there's a real opportunity Your urgency of now as we are going back to FDR Democrats very soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: If not this year Very soon both your lips to whatever powers that be of course The powers that be here the ones who also control the clock and we got to go pay some bills But we will be back with one more segment here on a Wednesday night with Bob Cesca.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Jody and Bob and me and you here politics bar fresh in your drink and come right back
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last call on a Wednesday night with the one and only Bob Ceska everybody loves him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey everybody one two three
[SPEAKER_02]: see everybody loves it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're the only guy they do that for.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's everybody here in the bar just loves mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys miss me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels special.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the shirt you have on right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's from the band.
[SPEAKER_02]: I still think it would be a very helpful shirt if you're being positive because people ask you questions and you just point to it and you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: if you want something that will make you feel affirmative.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can actually go, you know, some of our shirts are kind of fun and positive over the politics bar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can check out our shirts there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, you guys can subscribe to the podcast there as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Six dollars a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you miss anything, you can pick it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Check it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's there at the politics bar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody is wearing a shirt from Bob's site, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the spicy Jody shirt, which you can get a message to get.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can also get some the other great positive shirts that are at Bob says.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good jet packs made of beef.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_10]: See Rex.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, with the hands, I don't know if we can actually say the actual name of that t-shirt.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we can't, that's why I didn't, I was just like, yeah, we can't go there on the radio.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not on the radio, no, no, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also shouldn't, we shouldn't be able to to talk about things that are as disgusting as the economic stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you said the inflation report coming out today, Bob.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a PPI inflation is no price is 0.7% yeah, and that was all back in February before the war started.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just think what's awaiting us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, PPI is the producer price index.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what's up in February.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's bad news given the fact that that's the starting point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you tack on the additional expense of tariffs, then you tack on, I mean, I'm not talking about the tariffs that are pre-existing, but the possibility of new tariffs added quite the expansion of the existing Donald tariffs, and then the worst thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: that will make inflation just balloon is what's happening in the strait of Formus, which is I think, and this is kind of a worst case, but at this point I don't see any other results of this other than the worst case, which is that there will be a global recession.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one maybe short lived like the COVID recession, but regardless, there was there's going to be some pain on the horizon, because Donald didn't consider any of this as a side effect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there ever considers anybody other than this?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: And certainly he wasn't listening.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is no wise old man.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no Barry Goldwater to come down from the hill and then Donald Trump to change his approach.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have the midterms especially.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, so it's gonna, it's gonna be one of those things where he's just going to be herky jerky about what the goals are, how this is going to be prostituted as far as the overall mechanisms of war, and it's, there's no way Iran is ever going to allow American or Israeli shipping to move through the strait.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop and find and give him off ramps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've been trying to give him off ramps literally since almost the day he did this.
[SPEAKER_02]: They continue to try to give him off ramps.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not it's it's not necessarily the I mean look.
[SPEAKER_02]: I ran even if they said since they've won't have been offering the off ramps.
[UNKNOWN]: See.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they said okay fine, it's over, but you still don't get to control x, y and z.
[SPEAKER_02]: the one who's the problem is Donald, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And even then, let's say the bombing were to stop now, Iran were to say, okay, we're opening up the straight again.
[SPEAKER_03]: There would still be a supply chain issue of everything that's got, that wasn't able to pass through.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got about seven days from what I understand from the market folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's somewhere between three and seven days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Before it gets to the point where they're going, yeah, it will be a global recession, because of all he's got to do is say, we won, we beat you guys, we made you look like fools, congratulations were done.
[SPEAKER_02]: And even though the fact that the Iranians are, you know, it's an even harder hard line government than it was before, the fact that they're willing to go whatever dude, just pick up your crap and get the hell out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go home.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I would say it's,
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's likely that that's how Donald will end this by saying, OK, I'm done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything's over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then he'll continue to frame it as being as a huge success.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll have AI fakes to back him up on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was worth it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now we're going to Cuba.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, exactly, even though it's not going to be over, even though there will be the possibility of terrorist strikes, even though there will be the possibility of a ran shutting down the straight again.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, all kinds of consequences of this, even in the best case scenario, even if it ends now and everything is done, even though there was a Gerald R. Ford that was over there, there was a fire, and he denied that there was even a fire.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it was not related to being hit by anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was it was from what I can tell it was an issue with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's it happens on ships, whatever, but unfortunately burned and so they're they're they're trucking that thing off to the island of Crete.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which to get it fixed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although I've never wanted to leave the island of Crete.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've never been I would like to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, not because, you know, you might want to go, but when you leave, you know, you go there, you're a Creaton.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then if you leave, then you're an excretion.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never shown how to know you had it in you to have a whole bunch of creature jokes lined up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, who's who's got creep jokes at the ready?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know there's a small town outside of Lincoln, Nebraska named Crete.
[SPEAKER_02]: The trucking company, Crete carrier company.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where they're from, actually, is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay Lincoln.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's yes, for for those of us who are from Lincoln, we all have a bunch of
[SPEAKER_02]: So, what you're saying is the politics bar will never have a Christian affiliates, is that that, that, that, that, that, that, that they won't, they, I don't think we'll have an affiliate in Crete now because they, they will think that I'm a Crete and, uh, I'll just tell them, I'm never been an excretion and I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, stop saying that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's what Donald, oh no, excursion.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's saying it's an excursion, not an excursion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's close enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he means it's an incursion, but he's not good with the words.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think you're wrong.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think he means it's a field trip.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do think he means it's a field trip.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, I mean, it's a field trip for everybody else.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have to worry about dying or getting hurt or getting injured.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, even our own Navy isn't going through the straight because they know better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and by the way, he's also fully committed to mutilization as a new word because he's not he's not given up on that He keeps recruiting in mutilization.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one's told them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, mutilization which is hard for him to say because
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my brain wants to go in the correct direction.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know what I can't do anymore?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or I've never been able to do is refer to his app as I have to really conform my mouth to this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, true social.
[SPEAKER_03]: So social.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: True social.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't call it that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a real truth central.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is what he called.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, the fact of the matter is, you cannot associate truth with Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: You actually have to think, because the man doesn't know what the truth is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm, and I just hit the I hit the TR at the beginning of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just have to go to TROTH TRUTH Central.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think of it that way often times, or a truth toilet, I believe you've called it that as well, because that's where the truth goes to die in the toilet, and I'm like, well, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: That, you know, things that are logical, I'm like, I get that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I cannot, I know that you always call it Fox News Bob.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I had to slow down to think about that because I could not call it I call it fox sometimes I call the fox propaganda at work I can't associate news with them because it's not news.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's propaganda.
[SPEAKER_10]: I call the fox noise.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's also true.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's also valid.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there is a fox.
[SPEAKER_03]: broadcast network true that I don't want to confuse people by saying very true the network that the Simpson's is on versus Fox news, which is something that's different true because we're not known owned by Disney by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but this is, but this is why I, you know, I just, I call the Fox propaganda at work.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't call it Fox news without actually slowing down and thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Phone news.
[SPEAKER_03]: The movie division, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's the 20th century.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's the entertainment division, Disney, they don't on the news division.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, um, they owned the sports.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they do.
[SPEAKER_10]: Because a friend of mine was working for Fox Sports and he lost his gig.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're talking about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are now, uh, still at this point, six major corporations that own all of the major news media, all of the major media period, and what's, uh,
[SPEAKER_03]: Distressing about that is two of the six are owned and run by Lachlan Murdock.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the fox corporation and there's news corp. Those are separate corporations now.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're both run by the Murdock.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you can basically combine those into one, meaning there are five corporations, not six.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we got all of our fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got the elephants who are desperately going they are trying to do the bomb rush of we did all of this and there are people who keep reminding them like Rob Bonta I believe isn't he that the AG out there in California and he's like no, no, you got to clear this and the Europeans are like whoa whoa whoa whoa before you try to take over CNN there Johnny you going to have to go through our stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are a lot of them who are quietly saying they're not going to clear the regulatory hurdles because they own too much of the media at that point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's hope.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then what's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what you have to do is the the other two of those now five basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: groups that are that run the media in this country.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two of those, one of brothers discovery and paramount are about to become one.
[SPEAKER_03]: So now you've reduced because Locklin Murdoch controls both Fox corporation and newscorp.
[SPEAKER_03]: That becomes from goes from six to five, essentially.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you're taking two more that compresses into.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're talking about
[SPEAKER_03]: four four corporations in just right now running all of major media in this country.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a so immensely good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the reasons that it should be illegal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the reasons that so much of the independent media is growing that people are getting their news and their information from folks like us at the politics bar or from new
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there are so many reasons.
[SPEAKER_02]: But one of them is that it ties into some of the legacy stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, with track politics, you and Mary, I think you guys were running a re-running your interview with Jerry Ryan, I believe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't do a new show last week, so we re-ran our interview with Jerry Ryan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great, and fascinating, and still applies today, even though we recorded it in 2023.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's the thing is that those, you know, like Star Trek, you're old,
[SPEAKER_02]: the entire structure universe it's controlled by paramount now and you wonder you're like what the hell is going to become of that with monsters like Ellison well you got you got South Park giving the big finger to paramount all the time and they got a billion dollars so they're happily but they made sure they've had that in their contract there's some art boys blood first with them and then for boys or smart
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the 60 minutes piece on the straight of her moves was not favorable to Trump administration.
[SPEAKER_03]: So no things are slipping through that firewall on CBS control.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's that they're still going to try.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think they're going to succeed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, any you look people can obviously go listen to the Bob Cesca show What you should do in which Jodie makes some great appearances?
[SPEAKER_02]: Who did you have on your show today by the way?
[SPEAKER_02]: Drift class returns.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah That'll be going off very shortly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello Drift class So if you guys have not downloaded you absolutely should download anything that Bob Cesca does and of course go to the Bob Cesca store And that way you can get the shirt that Jodie is wearing right now the spicy jodie shirt because yes
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob, we will see you back here next week, and I think Jody will see you at your place tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good option.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, just remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on your shirt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Be positive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is you guys here tomorrow night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.