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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, welcome to the Craigslist Parenting podcast so happy to have you with us today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a really interesting topic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't let AI steal your child's art.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is an incredibly relevant topic to all parents regardless of where they stand on social media, AI, all the things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are going to be diving into scripture today and we know that today is a needed topic because there is a huge threat to our kids and what they're going to be doing in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, this is episode number 392, and we've been doing it for a while, every single week, never missed a week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I might be more excited about this episode than anyone before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is so important, so relevant, so biblical, and we don't have a perfect angle on this, because nobody does, but we are gonna give you some sound principles, things to discuss as Mary couples in equipping your children during these unprecedented times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to be proactive as decision makers, not reactive, we have to think ahead before things happen and this is one of the most important areas to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is talking about equipping your children for what's happening right now in the massive change in the next three years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And 60% of the jobs are going to be gone, for example, and how to think about this and what the repercussions are if you don't take action.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe say a little prayer to be encouraged.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have nothing to fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We trust God, but we are supposed to take action.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anybody has talked about this in the way that is in this show today that you're listening to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all shown notes are at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: courageous parenting.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also going to put an infographic in there of the jobs in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're most affected by AI and the ones that are least affected that I think you'll find valuable to that I mentioned in the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, hey, courageous parenting.com all show notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a topic that nobody has a perfect answer on and we're going to Catch you up on where we're at and we're gonna give you some practical insights on really making sure AI doesn't ruin your children's minds

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[SPEAKER_02]: doesn't ruin their art, their creativity, and keeps them at the same time, competitive in a very different world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just in the next year, two years, three years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Drafts to change across the board is happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So buckle your seat belts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to talk about not letting AI steal your child's art and their creativity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that this is probably the hardest thing not to fear because trying to disciple your children, lead your children, create boundaries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: have discussions with them, they're already potentially getting influenced based upon if they're on social media or not, if they're in school or have peers that use AI or have parents that use AI and what has been allowed within their home, there's just so many potential impacts on this, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so...

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is a big impact and, you know, one of the interesting things that we were thinking about

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[SPEAKER_02]: It probably will make them smarter and I will and probably I made it to pens that could backfire We'll talk about that lazy learners.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna make them more dependent on something else and feeling incapable and They can still lazy learners with a eye can still succeed Interestingly enough, but what's happening on the inside I think will be devastating and so you know Are your children going to be hungry learners are they gonna be lazy learners?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I even think about the conversations with teachers and professors and they're probably in the same boat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a teacher or professor, I'm likely you have come across this argument in your mind thinking, what are the standards I'm going to hold for my classroom, what am I going to allow, what am I not going to allow, what are the boundaries or guidelines that I'm going to expect my students to follow in regards to this tool that is readily available to everyone at any point, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so obviously a few years ago, it was even coming up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: As professors and teachers were really struggling to know if kids were writing their own essays or if they were putting it in the computer and generating topics without having to put a lot of work into it themselves, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now there's tools that are starting to come out that teachers and professors can use to throw a kid's paper and because it's digital, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it should detect if there is AI or not, it's very interesting because I was actually talking to a mom who her child was homeschooled and did not use AI to write something but was using their brain and their intelligence and the professor said it was so good that there's no way they had to have used AI and so they accused this said college student of using AI even though they did not and they got reprimanded for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, smart home schoolers, that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what also happens is the tools aren't perfected yet, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're still working on the fraud detection tools that teachers and professors have to run papers through and see if they're not trustworthy yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, CFAI, you know, did it or not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in this case, it's like, you know, one of the downfalls of where everything's going, is that everybody will soon, I don't know, but a lot of people, the majority will soon trust some of these tools like you can get some of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: More than a human.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's nothing a human can say, even if they're innocent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen the last one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen the last one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mine order report or, you know, because, you know, that's a old movie, but it's interesting because it talks about,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, a pre-crime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Technology is seeing where crimes are going to take place before they even take place, and at notifying the authorities and arresting people before they do the crime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so very, very interesting, this is kind of, you know, similar in some ways, is, you know, our, it's society, you're going to trust these tools so much, and we all know, God is so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And God's the only thing that's perfect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And He made a plan, He made us the way we are, creative, human beings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Christians have the Holy Spirit in them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing's gonna ever be able to touch that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's a unique voice every human being has in the Holy Spirit's guiding them, especially if they're Christians.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't wanna snuff that out, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't wanna snuff that creativity, that raw, awesomeness that God gives people and their unique paths and all these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And here we got a homogenized society developing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, homogenation happens in, you know, processed milk, terrible stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it, it kind of kills all the good stuff in the milk and it makes it solid throughout and, and, in a sense, perfect to look and taste, I guess, but it kills everything that's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why there's this raw milk surge right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's the same thing for society.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a homogenized society because technology is pushing everybody in a similar direction and inability to do lots of different things anymore that they used to do to provide and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: what you're starting to potentially create as a modernized society.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people will disagree, oh, with technology, we can do so much more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, reminds, after take myself back for a second, when social media first came out, I was really against social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember you speaking out against my space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very strongly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's funny is that I used Facebook for advertising because the fact then only college students were on it, as early advertisers are on Facebook when it was only the college students.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't, you know, I couldn't use it that and then when it came out for everybody, I didn't use it and then pretty soon, you know, you know, branding expert, looking at the business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to like recalibrate my mind because, and think about the future and realize, no, I actually, this is an amazing thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Social media is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because messaging can carry along distance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for a Christian, we can share and broadcast and impacting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been using CTC math for our math curriculum with our kids, ranging in ages 10 all the way through senior in high school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm in your almost 10 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I've noticed is all of a sudden you're an independent learner, and you actually like math now, huh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's recently when I wake up in the morning and I go, okay, we gotta get school out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, I already did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So so I'm like, can you tell everybody why you like CTC math?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can just get so much done such a short period of time and it's so much easier than the other maps I've been through and it makes it fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that we love about CTC math is that the different elements of learning have been broken down into digestible, learning, increments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make it easy for kids to go through their lessons, feel like they've conquered it and move on to the next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I love is a homeschooling mom is that all of my kids can be independent learners, but then when they get stuck on something, I can sit down with them, easily listen to the lesson with them and just help them navigate if they get stuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But truthfully, this is one of the first math curriculums that we have used, especially for upper level math, where I haven't had to sit down and work hard with the kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're interested in figuring out if CTC math works for you and checking it out, go to ctcmath.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just loved to impact people, so that was really a turn on that, but we have to be responsible and disciplined with it and so forth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's the same thing, at some point your children need, this is in a social media episode, but the previous one was, I believe, or a couple of few ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, few ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you can look for that, but you've got a, while they're in your home, I believe every child needs to learn how to use social media while they're in their parents home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because under their guidance with guardrails and boundaries and good open communication and conversations and to be able to navigate the online world and to not be too trusting of anything and instead holding their guards up and so forth and sharing it with you and guiding them to use it in a way that has impact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that is a really powerful and important thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But now I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so at first, we kind of talked about

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[SPEAKER_02]: for, I believe, we do our predictions in the new year, kind of episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did we do one this year?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We missed it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to do that, so anyways, I was right with ChatGPT, which is falling down right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Something else, Claude is overtaking it and some other things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when that first came out, we gave some predictions about which all kind of happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just kind of looking at the trends of things

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[SPEAKER_02]: humans are but um i it just made me realize you know what this isn't something that we can just not adjust avoid this will actually hurt our children if we avoid it and that's our first tip is don't avoid reality

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, this is a obvious way that the world is going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me though of Babylon in Scripture and I shudder to think what the repercussions are going to be worldwide for planet Earth and for the people here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the reality is that the people that are building AI are not necessarily like-minded people, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's something that we were even talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get to that in a few minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a need for us to make a distinction when we're raising our children like we can't just paint a picture of the world as being all roses and put rose-tinted glasses on our children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Often times in the podcast, I'll make this statement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Parents, you need to take the rose tinted glasses off and operate in reality so that you're not reactionary when things happen, but instead you're proactive as a parent and trying to prevent that evil thing from happening or prepare your children to be equipped to be able to handle it if it happens, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of like teaching your kids how to swim when you know that they're at some point gonna either be in a lake or river or an ocean and they need to know how to swim, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or in a pool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like a life skill in my mind, we need to be quipping our children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to talk about certain current events such as the reality of how the world is turning towards AI with our kids and we need to start talking to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you talk to them about, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, first things first, our first point, Isaac, just said, is don't avoid reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't, if you pretend and you sweep it under the carpet, what most likely is actually going to happen is that your kids are going to realize what is real in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're going to think that you're just out of the loop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that you're dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because most teenagers will think that of their parents if their parents haven't created a relationship with them where they are in tune with the world and they're equipping them in the things in real time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the reality and so as parents we need to like not have rose tinted glasses on, but also don't put them on your children like if you're if you're home schooling We've homeschooled for 22 years and so for us it would be easy to be isolationists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know of homeschoolers who have been isolationists and in my

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[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, what they're doing is putting rose tinted glasses on their kids, which is not equipping them to be able to thrive in the world when they launch from their home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there's an element of wanting to protect your children and preserve their purity in their innocence as long as possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe that that's something that God calls as to his parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we also need to be equipping our kids for the reality of the world that we live in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We live in a fallen world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, for we're discipling our children through the Bible, we're not going to be removing passages of scripture to our children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be reading all of it and they're going to see how fallen the world is, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we cannot avoid reality and I think one of the biggest tests is actually when you're discipling your kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you avoiding passages of scripture when you're discipling your kids?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's a great scripture to read to your children, and this is what we're encouraging you in this episode about, which is Matthew 10, 16, behold, I'm sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What a great conversation to have with your children, what does it mean today in the world we're in right now to be wise as serpents?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and innocent as does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but I would, I would stop on one of them first with your children and then talk about the other one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What does it mean to be wise as servants?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about that for a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What does it look like to be innocent as dubs?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And talk about that for a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is your table talk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If we're not having this table talk with our families, you are not equipping them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is game time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a whole different season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not the old days where you could just check a box off and put them in youth programs and go, they're getting disciples, they're getting a quips spiritually for the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not an age where you can just drop them off somewhere and they're getting from teachers what they need to hear to equip them for a very different world when 60% of the current jobs are gone and a lot of people are training for the wrong jobs right now and learning the wrong things in their education.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You might be thinking about your home school efforts, and do you have the right curriculum?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have the right direction for the ways things are going?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You probably do, we certainly love CTC math, math's always going to be important, for example, but you probably do, but here's the thing, what needs to be added?

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[SPEAKER_02]: In our whole time home school and your children,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've always kind of been a positive thorn in my wife's side, and she's like, okay, okay, all that stuff's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love everything you're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're doing a fantastic job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what about this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what about this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really want my family to be great at this different thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know and I think we need to be that way and this is another you know pivot point where we need to recalibrate and think about when needs to be added to the usual stuff that we're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think AI literally actually learning how to use AI should be in in a homeschool plan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and not at a young age, but at the right age, that's according to you, and I think that's important to really think about because, man, if they don't have familiarity with it, they're going to be left behind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally companies are laying off thousands of employees right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been happening every week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a new story of 2,000 employees let go, 4,000 employees, and it's not for the reasons of old.

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[SPEAKER_02]: old reasons were the company struggling or sales are down, you know, so we need to have that's not why they're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's literally if they don't replace employees with AI, their cost basis will be way too high and they will go out of business because their competitors will be doing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and they'll be more efficient and their products will cost less and they'll undercut the market where they only have humans working.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they won't be able to exist anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They know that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same for countries.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's an arms race right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a different kind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an AI race.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The war in Iran.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: AI was largely

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[SPEAKER_02]: used in these efforts in Venezuela and Iran so far, not to get into all that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But definitely being used in precision is heightened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a competitive advantage for our country because we're trying to lead an AI.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there is a there's a race happening in this and is your children.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know exactly what they're going to do in their future and they are going to probably need AI to do into be competitive and to have a better business in their future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's an important thing right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can't avoid reality at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's interesting though, within talking about reality and teaching your kids, having these conversations about AI, some people might say, well, what age do you start teaching your kids about AI?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if a parent was going to ask you that, I was like, what would your answer be?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in our family, the talk just happened with our when our 15 and 17 and 19 old.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, but you have to realize that probably if I was here now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like if we're we're at in the timeline of current events if we had 12 year old yeah I would have talked I would have talked to them as well so for us because we home school our four year old seven year old and ten year old are not really even on the computer a whole lot so they're I wouldn't have them doing anything in this regard but I definitely gave them instructions now you have to have guidelines and boundaries I think there's a scripture that's going to go with this we have to have guidelines and boundaries on this because

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[SPEAKER_02]: you don't want to let them lose their art.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the most important thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I've been telling them, like people who are going to lose their art because as soon as they have a tool, they're content that they're going to speak, they're content for their paper, they're content that used to be them, and is now

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[SPEAKER_02]: the AI doing it, they're going to lose confidence in their ability to write and speak and do these things in the same way because they're going to have a perception, AI's really good now, they're going to have a perception that I can't do it as well, I can't write, I can't prepare something as well as this tool does and that breaks confidence and so I think it can be wonderful, I'll give you an example of the way I've used it, we don't use it for any content creation,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't as a pastor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will not use it for anything at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have this logo software I use a lot of pastors use and you can upgrade to have AI integrated with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not upgrading.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like I don't want to lose like my my process in Isaac where your process takes hours longer probably than the future pastors that are using this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll praise the Lord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go slow and let the Holy Spirit draw out of me things I think it would really disrupt the process part of my speech.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not speech sermon prep I believe the Holy Spirit is preparing me for the delivery

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[SPEAKER_02]: and the deliveries better because I'm not taking shortcuts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I have used little tools, efficiency tools, and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of them is titles are really important for YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're doing content and putting content out there, your title's got to be dialed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what I do do is I always come up with my title first, and I wrestle with it, and I think about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I run it into the AI tool, the title I created, and see what other suggestions it comes up with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And my goal is always to beat the AI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean by that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I look at the suggestions and I usually go, I think mine's better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I keep mine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And but sometimes I never go with just the AI title because maybe I'm just stubborn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe there's a word that you look at and you go, oh, that might be a better word for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go look it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A trigger something, you go, I didn't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what's beneficial, here's a great example.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The AI already knows what everybody's searching for in YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what's popular right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the trends and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the key words to you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's only giving you titles with the key words of their relevant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in my without all that research that's automatically happening with AI, I'm just thinking about the whole spirit and guiding me with the title should be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then I'm like, I didn't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I bet that's a trending word right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I might take the word and rework my title a little bit to where it's having that word in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a way that I think is as integrity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not losing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: my confidence and ability to write?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I just want to talk about the potential loss here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So at the very beginning of the podcast, we talked about how God has given everybody, he's created them uniquely, which is briefly mentioned this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're created creative beings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you were to go back to Genesis chapter one and two,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the creation of Adam and Eve, God spoke things into existence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He spoke many, he spoke the light in the day and the land and the waters and everything he spoke it into existence and he said it is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he made Adam, he made him in his image and we know and we call God the creator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a creative God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We also, he's been referred to as an intelligent designer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a very creationist terminology to use regarding just God's intelligent design.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you believe what God's word says that humans were created in God's image, you know that from the Father, there is a passing down of specific traits and one of the things that he has given humans as this ability to partner with him in creation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's this element of creativity that is required whether that is being a doctor and using the herbs and the plants of the earth and the different things that we have to be able to heal the animals to try to heal the land that's been hurt, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many different aspects that we could go into, but when you're talking about technology, versus the creative mind, right, that God has created in human being, which by the way, scientifically, there are so many aspects to the human body that even science is behind on figuring out so many different aspects.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how intelligent the designer God is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in this moment, I just want to make something very, very clear that no matter how intricate and how advanced AI or technology gets, it's nothing compared to the intelligent designer, our God, who is the creator of all things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the ways, so, one of the ways, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just gonna say, and so like this isn't actually something to fear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that to me is a huge encouragement that humans created AI, but God created humans and even science doesn't have all the answers for all the ways that God's created our bodies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so just remember that when you're teaching your children that we don't wanna have a fearful spirit, God did not give it a spirit, a fear, but a power and love and a sound mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is in belief, second Timothy, one, five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's this need for us to pass on that faith and that belief to our children that God is the ultimate creator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, humans have always struggled with the temptation to want to be many gods and to try to be better than God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really do believe that AI is one of those proofs of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, well said, and one of the things I read a book a long time ago, the other 90% not necessarily recommending the book, but one of the things in there, there's always a nugget in a book, is that they've done studies that show your when you are learning and you're growing, you're making more connections in your brain and we don't use 90% of our brain essentially is what the book is talking about and they've done these studies and

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[SPEAKER_02]: And think about new ideas and struggle to come up with words and put them together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of these things are making new neurological connections in your brain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you actually have so much more potential and the God made it this way and we're making more connections in our brain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's say you make all those connections in your brain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You will literally not keep them if you stop learning and growing in the same velocity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you stop learning and I think there's a possibility here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why hungry learners and lazy learners are gonna have different outcomes with AI I think hungry learners are not gonna cheat and just have something right their paper form because they love the art of coming up with their ideas And they'll use it as a tool maybe to stimulate their mind and come up with even even even new pathways to the idea They already have I think that's can be additive and

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[SPEAKER_02]: Augment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not writing for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's it's doing research and finding clever different paths to write their own original work with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think when it starts replacing the lazy learners man that's getting their their neurological connections going to die out their sense of purpose is going to die out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're feeling of contributions going to diminish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you might be more successful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we might be in a world where it's easy to make money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They might even just give everybody money because robots are so efficient.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I won't have to give it all away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the detriment to human society because where does purpose come from?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll come from the Lord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're a dynamic Christ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially for men and providers and adding everybody is we like to accomplish things We like to feel valuable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We like to use our minds and our hands and and do things and see something built because we did it Well, pretty soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna even if you take credit even if someone puts their name on the art if AI did it Who knows that

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And reminds me of James chapter 4 of her 17 that says, so whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is sin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you've heard me talk about how we're members of smear to ministries instead of having health insurance, which has been so helpful to our family over the last five years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to share an update.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've recently launched redeem health share, which we've now joined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've also chosen to have flex share, which is an exclusive add-on feature where you can share for things like vision and dental and preventative care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Redeem is a Samaritan Ministry program and has more program options to fit your budget and health care needs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All in a modern digital platform.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most importantly, Redeem upholds the same commitment that Samaritan Ministry has held for more than 30 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Christians praying for one another and sharing medical needs together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Learn more at redeemhealthhare.org that, you know, as Christian parents, we have a, we've just been talking about lazy learners versus hungry learners, which

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[SPEAKER_01]: is regardless of faith and religious preference, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's people who tend to be more lazy and people who tend to be more hungry and teachable and always wanting to learn and that sort of thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But as believers, we should have a motivation to always have a teachable heart because we want to learn from the Lord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to grow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to make progress.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to contribute for the well-being of other people from a self-sacrificial perspective and motivation, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I look at this and it says whoever knows the right thing to do

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this reminds me also of Romans chapter 13 and 14 that talks about having a clear conscience before the Lord regarding sin and to one man something is sent to another.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like recognizing that part of equipping your children to be confident courageous leaders and to stand firm in the truth and to walk with moral integrity, biblical integrity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is you're going to be going through scripture as like James chapter four verse 17 like chapters 13 and 14 and Romans and and teaching them listen you can expect people who don't have the Holy Spirit to have the same perspective and moral guide inside of them because that's what the Holy Spirit does right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but you can lead it and you need to lead it and God has chosen you to lead it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so empowering your kids, it's not just a matter of like, oh, I want to protect my creativity and what God has given me, although that is important, there is a biblical reasoning behind it, and it's called sin and like, are you crossing this line of cheating?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was talking about regarding writing papers, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so first, you know, who maybe is taking four or five classes, and they're trying to graduate early, like imagine kids,

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[SPEAKER_01]: going to college using AI to write their papers and they're taking on like double loads because they want to finish college two years early, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're using AI to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, you would think, well, that's not really like a fair playing field against the students who are actually having integrity and they're doing the work themselves and they're not using AI, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's where it's a good comparison of what Isaac was even talking about regarding they could still be successful, but they might lose their soul in the process because they actually

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so I think it's a good point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think most of you listening aren't even gonna send your kids to college Right, I mostly hope that's the case unless there's some really important reason, but even then maybe not

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, it's a very good point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, uh, so the guidelines just to reiterate is I've told the kids you learn how to use it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Learn how to set up automations, be efficient, research things, get you to your art faster, get you to your production easier and faster, but you're not going to let the tool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: create everything for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: See there's certain things I think humans need to keep and the ones that do keep it They will be blessed for it and what they're doing we blessed in a different kind of way even if it takes them longer and so Ark children we used to say in the social media era

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are culture drivers, producers, versus consumers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It still is one of our culture drivers as a family, which is produced more than you consume.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Be use your art, use creativity, and get it out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But now, that's a whole new meaning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to have a whole caveat to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because a lot of people say, well, I'm giving it prompts in this skin, it's writing the thing, it's creating the art, it's doing this and that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was my idea to write the new process.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's me, that was mine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna put my name on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, we have to now define what producer means.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to talk about that with your children.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What does it mean to produce something?

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[SPEAKER_02]: When is it okay to put your name on it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When are you going to feel good about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you do 10% of the work or 100% of the work, or right, and I think that the measurement like that, asking questions, well how much of the work did you do just you alone?

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[SPEAKER_01]: is a good question to our parents, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and no, I think the quantity of work isn't the question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is did you actually do the most important part, which is the thinking and the creativity?

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[SPEAKER_02]: See, because some things that they're going to be doing, there's 1,000 hours of man work that got done by AI and an hour or less, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the creativity and the knowledge and the output of what God's doing through you and your business,

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[SPEAKER_02]: still is intact and you're not losing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to just challenge that for a second for the people that are listening who maybe are more administratively gifted and less creative because when you think about how people are wired, there are different types of people in this world and and our message is largely about people not losing their creativity and you know instead challenging to have more neurological connections but there are people who tend to be more creative

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[SPEAKER_01]: and lack administration that they would listen to this and be like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but what about people who are like actually They weren't created with a creative bone in their body, so to speak, and they are much more gifted in administration And then you have AI potentially taking all their job opportunities because People are utilizing AI for administration stuff when that they could be hiring somebody, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to gently push back to this is fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say if there's no future in a administration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what about people who want that way?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Additionally, I'm not saying, let me define art for a second, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and creativity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All personality types have their art.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this isn't a play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I should clarify this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't painting a picture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not your art.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Your art is the uniqueness in the way God made you and the outputs he wants to create through you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for whatever they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be writing a book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For some people it might be art.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what would be an administrative art.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been creating organizational tools.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think there's still going to be a need to actually create inventions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people that are more analytical have unique technology than AI itself is a, is a, is a, someone that's wired that way created that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Using coding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, coding's dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, sorry, but it's largely dead, but it's going to be, but there's going to need to be

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[SPEAKER_02]: and use it, and there's always going to be a path for humans, you just have to be excellent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and you actually is kind of proving the point, you have to be aware of new technology, so you're not obsolete, and you know how to use it for whatever God has gifted you in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, not everything's going to use AI, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's certain things that trade and things like that, much less, however, the marketing side of it, the creating customers, the customer service, and support AI can efficiency tools can massively help with all of those things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think we're in a world where we do have to think differently, and hopefully some of the things I'm saying are kind of shocking you, like administrative, anything with a keyboard they're saying, I don't know for sure, but these are the experts that know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: are saying is that people in front of a keyboard all day, those things are largely going to be gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what is happening?

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[SPEAKER_02]: One guy said, I don't necessarily believe this is right, that the guys that are addicted to video games, this is weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm going to touch and tell you what somebody's saying out there that's in the know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The guys that are addicted to video games and have really short attention spans because of it and have just constantly consuming themselves of screen time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: be effective in the AI world in some weird ways, not healthy, don't condone it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That actually is a dangerous wiring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought it was weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to be gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the other side that they're talking about is the traits and those kinds of opportunities are going to be stronger and longer termed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And these kinds of things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, being a pastor, human relational, who are relational things, Christian

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, or strong, there's actually, I'll put it in the notes at cragesparameteen.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's an infographic of the jobs that are going to be most effective and least effective, least effective in this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of the trade school, thanks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now, what is the answer?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it geared your kids towards the trades?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you need to know who your children are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a perfect answer for this and I've all these boys and I will say sometimes fear sets in sometimes and I have to shove it out sometimes anxiety comes in for me and I have to shove it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're not all wired the same way and necessarily called to do the exact same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And not necessarily the same thing you do, because back in the day, fathers would pass on their skills and trades to their sons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And while you have taught the kids how to build websites and edit podcasts and tons of different technology, things, business, stuff, leadership, stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All kinds of different aspects that are unique to the things that you have done over the years is an entrepreneur.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The reality is with seven cents they're all wired differently and it's clear that God has a different call for them You don't just say oh because I did this you all should do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would not be wise parenting that would be Was shoving a circle into a square in some cases

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll give you another example, a guy that says all this news all the time, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I follow some different accounts that are about AI and the first guy just bought a house using AI only AI created the contract AI helped him negotiate the deal, gave him pointers, he negotiated the deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He bought it, he did the contract, and, you know, he saved all the fees, 100% of the real trophies and all those kinds of things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that going to be in the norm in the norm and the recent future?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just like, this is like the wild west of change.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like there's where the acceleration of change is so fast and most parents have no idea what a how to use AI because it's just boom it's upon us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to even think of the older generation, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the baby boomers and and how they're there, a lot of them don't even know necessarily how to use social media, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which going back to that for a second, I think that this is a really good reminder is that social media was supposed to create a more connectedness for people and while I did that for

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[SPEAKER_01]: people and there was a lot of harms and dangers that are mixed in their with social media and so well there are aspects of AI that can be helpful and that's what you were teaching the kids like this it can be useful for these things these are kind of the the guided lines right like research automation of certain things that are just busy work efficiency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to other things like letting it think for you and anything, that's a big red flag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay away from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for us, we're not saying that this is prescriptive for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, our encouragement for all courageous parents listening is that you need to operate in reality and then you need to pray and discuss as a couple, like, what are you going to teach your children?

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[SPEAKER_01]: because putting roast into glasses on them is not the answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do need to actually talk to them about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to teach them how to have, what does it mean to have biblical integrity?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which I would say is the next part of what we're talking about, which is the biblical knowledge and discipleship of your family, that there is like a spiritual conviction based upon the Bible, and what the Bible says regarding integrity, and being useful and using your gifts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do your kids believe that God gave them something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: special to contribute to the Earth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've actually done a whole podcast episode on how teenagers need to have a purpose in life and how that's part of our joy and delight as parents is to give them vision and a purpose and to speak life into them and encourage them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're really good at this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're really good at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you thought of doing this, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say that if your kids can experience even like starting a business and failing, that is an incredibly healthy experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, failure is a really, really good experience for your kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for them to try again, and again, and again, and to have some success, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so how much more, how much more important it is today and in the future to have scripture written upon your children's hearts, to have it memorized, to have it saturating their mind on a daily basis, to have a hunger for biblical truth, to have a hunger for how do I navigate,

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[SPEAKER_02]: biblical truth in a different world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And how do I always stand firm in the faith, regardless of the situation, even if it costs me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How do I, you know, what are the martyr stories that the children need to know for the coming persecution that's coming?

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[SPEAKER_02]: and how much more do they need to be discipled by their parents so that they trust their parents in the teenage years when most kids don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They love their parents, but their heart is elsewhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The heart is on their device.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The heart is on their youth leader.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The heart is on their romance prospect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Their heart is all other play on the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The enemy has their hearts, and they don't even realize it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, how do you keep in the front?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you do have to stay relevant, you have to stay relevant as a parent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't stay relevant as a parent, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that probably creates a little bit of fear, but I believe part of my job is to shock people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if we're not shocked, we're not awake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're not awake, you're going to lose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And people are losing their kids, left and right to the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to get awake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you awake?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that comes to my mind is this conversation between two young peers, where one is saying, oh well, the professor said it's okay to use AI, did it or did it up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other kids going, no, because their parent has actually talked to them, or they have a Holy Spirit conviction regarding integrity of, I am supposed to do the work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the student, not my computer, not AI, like that's not me, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's a scripture that I think is incredibly powerful to go over with your kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's in first Peter chapter 3.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's verse 13 through 17.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It says, Now, who is there to harm you if you are zealous for what is good?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to raise our kids to be zealous for what is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Verse 14, but even if you should suffer for righteousness sake, your kids are going to suffer for righteousness sake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be competition out there like no other, and they're going to be tempted to use AI even when it goes against their conscience at times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Potentially bosses are going to, like, just roll out programs for a whole company, you're all using this now, and then down the road, it's so that they can lay off people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can save money and use computers instead so here's here's here's the scripture a verse 14 But even if you should suffer for righteousness sake you will be blessed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is God's word You will be blessed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remind your children of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the next one have no fear of them nor be troubled But in your hearts on or Christ as the Lord is holy Always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asked you for the reason for the hope that is in you

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet do it with gentleness and respect having a good conscience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the conscience part again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that when you are slandered, so when fellow employees or peers slander you and go, oh, they're not gonna use AI, they're gonna stay up on night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go out and party.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go out and do this thing, cause I already got my paper done on use AI, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame, verse 17 for its better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God's will,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This scripture can apply to so many things and I think that it's an important passage of scripture to have written on our hearts and to be encouraging our kids with as they're launching into the world because it applies to so many topics, not just AI.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have a real relationship with God when you're reading the Bible, you know, when your children accept the Lord, they get the Holy Spirit, the wonderful gift, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And but when you read the Bible, it just, I know my own experience is I can hear from the spirit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel it's convictions in a stronger way, the more I'm in the word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You read it and it comes alive, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in my prayer life, the more I'm in the word and the more I'm praying, the more it's not my flesh that's occupying my brain, the more the spirit's allowed to steer me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the kind of thing you want for your children.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe some of you listening

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[SPEAKER_02]: for your own personal faith.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would just encourage you that, yeah, you know, the old religiosity, the religious spirit, the just go to church, check off the box, put them in the class, check off the box, and not do hospitality, not run the race, not be real, not be transparent, not read the Bible other than we dust it off for Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is a death sentence to your legacy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is, that is just, that just does not hurt your children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to walk away less bitterly prepared for this world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an detriment to them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Your children are going to feel like they're living amongst hypocrites and when they get older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they may choose to turn their back on the Lord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a really big deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Community super important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You need to be in a Bible believe in church because the influence is kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's interesting as I've been giving sermons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really fascinating to be a pastor during these times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel just a burden in my heart to keep people updated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't make it the main thing in my sermons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: here and there, we've been some AI stuff and things to be aware of, be aware of platforms that won't talk about this all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just kind of, that's a shepherd's job, right, to guide and to shepherd and to touch biblical truth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it just comes to me as I'm preparing messages and I'm like, well, I really need to actually talk about AI right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And first glance,

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[SPEAKER_02]: be seem like a fit for the scripture, but I feel like the Holy Spirit's prompted me to do these things, and I think we need to be, we need to be in the know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to be talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you raising your kids in the AI times?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you going to make sure they don't steal your child's art?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But so here's some repercussions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to end with some repercussions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: of all of this, but first I want to read Philippians 4-6-8 because I think we need a moment of encouragement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yes, this has been heavy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, super, super heavy, 4-6-8.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Finally brothers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You ready?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable,

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[SPEAKER_02]: If there's any excellence, if there's anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get worried about this, start taking some action on this, learn about it yourself, come in the know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is your children's future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Guide them, think about pray about what maybe the Lord has for their path.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pray together with your children, but don't be in anxiety, don't be worrisome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and received and heard and seen to me practice these things and the God of peace will be with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The God of peace will be with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only peace through relationship with Jesus Christ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the only real peace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're living in a troubled world, but we're gonna be alive forever with God and eternity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a 10,000 times better than this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do your children believe that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't mean while we're here, we're not wise as serpents, innocent as doves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't mean while we're here, we don't glorify God.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in all the ways possible and figure out how to help thrive during these times and help our children thrive, despite the innovation by man's strength.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not the spirit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think any of this stuff is created.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all man, man is getting so smart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the tower of Babel, they're getting so smart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that happened one other time and he dispersed all the people across the earth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how people got everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were saying to me earlier that there's an important reality that parents should not only know but teach their children and it's that AI is actually programmed by people who are most times left-winged in the sense, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a woke aspect to AI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so while that could be alarming, that statement could be alarming to a lot of parents, again, it's operating with reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're teaching your kids biblical truth, they need to know what does not have biblical truth in it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That there's going to be elements of it that the enemy is going to try to use to deceive people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's our first repercussion is that people who are

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[SPEAKER_01]: Loving can I just say love I'm gonna I'm gonna use that word because it's it's a strong word I think that we need to be careful about the words that we use But I do think that there is people who are falling in love with AI They their loyalty is being shifted because it may be saving them time and time is our greatest commodity And so that it becomes all I love this it's saving me time Maybe business owners that are using it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's saving me money because now I don't need three employees I only need one

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's aspects of this where people will benefit and then their loyalty shifts to where you don't dare talk that about a eye because you're stepping on my toes now, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And recognizing that that is the repercussions of what's going to happen in a society where people even discussing if they use a eye or a night might become a closet subject that could create such division between people that nobody wants to even talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, everybody's using AI right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, no, not, yes, you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, not, yes, you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's a lot of apps everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every single person is using AI right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you do a Google search, if you do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: AI comes up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's an AI summary that comes up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're using it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's integrated in every app, everything you're using.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's ubiquitous almost conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's because we don't have that in our app.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, but how do you, how do you actually use it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's what we're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not saying AI is all bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think in the end, that's how the Antichrist, you know, becomes powerful and stuff using technology.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's also the personal opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are many anti-Christ, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Little A's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's definitely a lot of people who are using AI to do their wicked schemes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just as they are doing that with social media, first John, we're going to go to first John to eight in a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what are the other repercussions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, a couple things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want a couple things real quick that are happening right now is there's a social media platform only for AI technology to use and communicate with each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And humans are allowed to be there but they literally restrict and can't communicate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and AI is communicating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, some big company just bought this platform for a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, there's some reason it's super valuable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing that's happening right now is there's a new platform that's launched that AI agents, AI agents is what people use to take over a lot of the things they don't want to be doing anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's some good to that, meaning like all these laborous kind of tedious things I used to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: part of my business or things like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now these AI agents can book things for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They can help me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are things that are efficient so we can go do our art in a better way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not against that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This platform just was created so that AI agents can go higher humans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because there are limitations to what

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If AI needs something delivered for their master, the human master, they can go hire a person to go deliver something for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can see where that could go, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just think of crime in the future, for example.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is just a wild west of change, and it's really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But first John, two, eight team on this point of the Little Antichrist is

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now many Antichrist have come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So many Antichrist, little Antichrist, have already come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And therefore, we know that it is the last hour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, I just threw that in there because could some of these leaders of the AI companies be little Antichrist?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Could they be not even fully aware of it, be ushering things up?

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[SPEAKER_02]: for the Antichrist, Peter Teele, I didn't watch it, but he is the founder of Palantir.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe PayPal and back in the day as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's an interesting guy, and he just gave a talk on the Antichrist, I believe, if I saw on the news, I didn't watch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a believer, but coming potentially as an angel of light, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went over that screen for the last one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they say on Palantir real quick, they say that that is the pre-crime platformer of the future, just like the movie I mentioned earlier, that is the platform that's gathering all of the data on everybody to be able to do predictive intelligence, to be able to see what's going to happen before it even happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, how will that be used?

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[SPEAKER_02]: and a utopian mindset of the liberal mind, which is they're always trying to create utopian, and then they mess everything up, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because they don't have the whole spirit, they don't have God, and so they're trying to create heaven on earth in the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to be God's because they don't believe in God.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to figure out how to live forever because they don't understand eternal life or believe in it and know that you could live forever and something far better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what you have all of these, maybe, maybe I don't know, maybe they're the little antichrist, cultivating this ushering end of the antichrist in the future, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the encouraging verse that just comes a few verses after this in 1st John chapter 2 it says, but you have been anointed by the Holy One and you have all knowledge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that because it says, I write to you not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it and because no lie is of the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess that that's really ultimately what this is all about is I don't let AI steal your child's art, don't let them, don't let AI deceive you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't let the little anti-christes

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[SPEAKER_01]: that are even building the AI, the woke influence, the different aspects of that deceive you into believing lies and recognizing that within social media and AI together, there's this, there is a tool that now the enemy can use to deceive a lot of people and it's incredibly, it's just divisive within the church, it's divisive within families.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the last three podcast episodes that we've done, it's like we're trying to shout from the megaphone

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[SPEAKER_01]: fight for unity in your family, fight for unity in the church, the family of God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, this is part of the problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are many traditions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The devil is, he's a schemer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that from scripture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is what God calls him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a schemer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there are many different schemes that he's going to try to create and attack the body of Christ and recognize this ahead of time and don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: just be alert, be aware, teach your kids about discernment, what are yellow flags, what are red flags?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about that last, we can last week's podcast episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if anything, share this podcast episode with other like-minded friends that are in your biblical community because here's the biggest deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just briefly mentioned the community, biblical community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is key in discipling your kids to be prepared for what they're going to rub up against.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason why this is so important is because peer influence is one of the greatest influences on your kids, but here's the deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If many people are linked arms in a community and they're all saying they exact same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Literally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're teaching the same thing, then there is power and numbers, and there's protection there, and that's what got one reason why God has body of Christ, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this isn't a time for churches to just be teaching on spiritual milk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't a time to just be secret friendly and just to constantly rehashing the most simplistic of doctrine and messages.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a time where people are hungry for the meat, they're hungry for how the meat is relevant to

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[SPEAKER_02]: the times relating in and how to be prepared and equipped and how to be a community and fostering that in the way you set things up at church and how things are done and so forth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are different times and I think that people are hungry for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're looking for that and they check the box, go in and out,

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[SPEAKER_02]: not talk to anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not going to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a flipping of touch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're in a church, you need to find a way to build community, you need to be proactive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you need to do hospitality, you need to build that even if you don't sense there's a culture of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you can't build that after trying, you need to try somewhere else because it's super important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're living

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[SPEAKER_02]: in greater end times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's obvious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's nothing to fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have trust in Almighty God, but we have responsibility to steward and lead and make decisions proactively, not reactively.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The reactive decision making only making decisions after something happens that most people do in the past, that is just totally not going to work anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to proactively be thinking about things before they happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, and that's what we're trying to get you thinking about before the next phase of all this stuff happens So you're not operating them fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, I am communicating with my kids We are discussing these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am equipping them in ways that will enable them to provide in the future And I'm trying to think through that and guide them and and have a thought process on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're not sticking our head in the sands and Saying we're trusting God Trusting God is important

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he gave us our minds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He gave us our jurisdictions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He gave us our hands and our mouths and our tongue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his word.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And his word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a guy that's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But believe us, most importantly, the people on our home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is courageous parenting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So buckle up, as we go, how to talk to your kids about different things with your folks coming, I know we keep saying that and it is coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So last week we talked about false teachers, but we want to encourage you guys that as we're continuing to do this courage parenting, we want to invite you to join in with us to be purposefully in your parenting and to encourage other parents to rise up and to take their jurisdiction seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you so much for joining us and we'll see you next week.