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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to sports our dumb, the podcast that's so excited to fill out some brackets, but we do got to wait a week.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Joey And I'm Sean and even though we're not filling out brackets yet Sean unless you're a real sicko and are filling out conference tournament brackets Yeah, I have not stoop to that level yet, but it is still a fun time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm sure there is and in infection that's been a topic of discussion
[SPEAKER_01]: the buildup.
[SPEAKER_01]: I consider all of this March madness.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're in the middle of this March.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are in March, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people only talk about the NCAA tournament, but we've got teams who have already booked their tickets to the NCAA tournament, including your Texas Longhorns on the women's side of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: South Carolina earlier today as we record Sunday.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and my friends, that's, hey, a sexist winning today.
[SPEAKER_04]: I said it simple.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yeah, I know they were going to win.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, because we want to get South Carolina, we've lost.
[SPEAKER_04]: But today, we want, and Texas has won the SEC tournament championship in their second season and the SEC, you got to love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: This, they turned, hold on, I'm sorry, to interrupt.
[SPEAKER_04]: They, they got to space and stop.
[SPEAKER_04]: It takes you to play three games in a row and they had to buy.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a magic if they didn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's what the conference tournaments like you, you play two games a week during the whole season in the conference tournament comes around.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you're a lower seed, you're playing every single day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Sean, this has been the topic of conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Among particularly the smaller conferences where it's one team is getting a bid and I understand I don't know what the right answer is because some conferences just have a straight Seating that you have eight teams one through eight
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them, you look at the West Coast Conference.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like the peak of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Sun Belt has adopted a similar type of conference.
[SPEAKER_01]: The latter format, where the teams that have performed the best and the regular season, they get a little bit of an advantage.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the West Coast Conference, I mean, this is true almost every season.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Gonzaga and St. Mary's are the top two teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: They get a buy all the way to the semi-finals.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's four rounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's four rounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's four rounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just hanging out, let the other teams defeat because, I mean, West Coast Conference generally both of those two teams are at large.
[SPEAKER_01]: This year, we might see Santa Clara as an at large.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't seen them in the tournament since the Ebola Steve Nash was there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say committing an upset.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not pulling off the upset.
[SPEAKER_01]: We like seeing upsets.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a comedic makes it seem like it's such a cool crime or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't want my behalf or how to get upsets.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see a Miami of Florida versus a Miami of Ohio front matchup.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a team Miami of Florida would win that case.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think Miami, do you think they're in or do you think they had the win their conference?
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to be in, man, if they're undefeated regular season, undefeated regular season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I guess if they lost their for it really is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we, we say this all the time, like you've never seen something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really have not seen something like that, like, and, and it's come out too that they've, this is another dumb thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're, it's like seven dumb things of college basketball we're talking about, but it's come out that Miami of Ohio tried to schedule.
[SPEAKER_01]: All perhaps up to 75 different schools.
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw some of the emails where they're just like, hey, we're looking for, you know, I saw you're looking for a buy game like do you want to because there's a fairly a whole portal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back in my freelancing for really one particular website, although I did write for a couple of different ones, but it's a site, I will not give them a shout out because the company I think got taken over by New CEO or something, and they kind of ran it into the grad, it went bankrupt.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun, I got to write about some interesting sports topics, and one of those was the logistics of March madness.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember speaking to Purdue's athletic,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness, I should know his title.
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked with him multiple times, in fact.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's very nice, but he was like in charge of scheduling all of the March madness stuff and he said for a team like Purdue that is is pretty regularly a top the big 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're usually going to be an at large regardless
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you know, you kind of get a sense of where you might be headed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're starting to map that out a little bit and you got to account for the band, the cheer squad, all of their equipment and everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like a lot of different things to go on.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then depending on which region you're going to, if you're, I believe it's, if you're within 150 miles, you're driving, you're taking a bus.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if it's longer than that, you're flying.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just a whole.
[SPEAKER_01]: whole process.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole lot that goes into it and I'm sure the scheduling process throughout the season is very wild and and out of control as well, trying to get it because there really is the way the current net system is set up.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's really no benefit to playing these mid major teams that are decent like you if you're a like you're a
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I decent mid major is a quad two team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like a well quad two Potentially a quad three because you would be hosting them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the way the quad's work it's There's like a larger gap like quad one we won't get into all of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was quad one is a top 30 team at home 150 neutral one to 75 on the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: Miami beat wake forest on the road wake forest might have a losing record or the right around 500 they're not good.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are somehow in the top 75 in net.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that counts as a quad one way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you see a lot of things like that, especially around the fringe.
[SPEAKER_01]: At one point, Florida State was a quad three loss for Miami, but Florida State's made a nice little push at the end of the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the road victory that Miami has over them is now a quad one victory.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's it's rolled up so it contains it can change throughout the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Miami of Ohio I've just looking at this recently.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a nice little website.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called Bracatologist dot com.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can look at every single team and I really like it's very color coordinated which we always appreciate so it's you can look at all of their
[SPEAKER_01]: like an overview of all their quad records and then you can you can get in there and get into the nitty gritty if you want to see the sickos like the average strength of schedule and the wins above bubble type of all this fun fun night nitty gritty and so my amyabahayo has has kind of floated between like a 48 to 55ish sort of net throughout most of the season like somewhere in that range so
[SPEAKER_01]: a team, most likely a team that would be scheduling a game against a Miami of Ohio would be playing them at home, and if they lost them, this time would be a quad two loss, so like not so bad, but if let's say that mid-majors floating more around like the 80 to 100,
[SPEAKER_01]: bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a quad three game.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you'd either, I mean, Quad three wins not moving the needle that much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Quad three loss potentially pretty devastating.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Stanford is a team making a little late push here for still distant from the bubble, but you know when it's a soft bubble.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe like maybe the cardinal will sneak in because they have a lot of good wins, but they also have three quad three losses and that's been.
[SPEAKER_01]: The disqualifying one and I saw someone making an argument that one of those losses was by like one point or something and maybe they're missing a This man a player.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it doesn't matter one of them was was against UNLV, which they were like every year UNLV either wins or loses Games they shouldn't and I'm just like okay, that's every team
[SPEAKER_04]: I and then the third game they this person did not bring this up so I looked it up because I was curious they lost to noted in 47 to 40 Which I should just destroy you I mean it's a high scoring football game 47 to four yes this one nobody wants to watch that But cause fast for mark matters is an entertainment product and that is not sound entertaining
[SPEAKER_01]: No, and I hope no one had to actually watch that guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it was just played in On a on a boat like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is the it's after chief versus the Rams and like 2021
[SPEAKER_04]: or 2018, whatever that game was, like 47 to 40 get out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's gross, but all of that is to say that all those numbers bandied about that if you're a top team and you're doing your non-conference schedule, you either want to schedule a bunch of cupcakes that you're going to win for sure against or other great teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you see like a Kansas vs Florida or like a Duke vs Gonzaga and the early
[SPEAKER_01]: Days of the season because it's like, oh, you lose.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good that's good practice for the tougher conference schedule You know, you you already have gone through like a good battle or two and then I but but scheduling like a good mid major could just be a bad boss for you with no real benefit
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, so like, okay, I guess, but it can change that later in the seats, so like in college football, if you play Florida State early in the season when they're ranked, and you win or lose, you have a ranked winner lost, but then Florida State loses 10 in a row, and it's like, they still consider that a ranked winner lost, like, no, they're not good anymore, but at least in college basketball, I guess, like you said, the Quadris change, so it's not,
[SPEAKER_04]: And you still not considered what it was at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry, Sean, they still, I don't, they still do that in basketball, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I saw Miami just played Louisville.
[SPEAKER_01]: Miami ranked for literally one week.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was this, it was this past week.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Louisville ranked all season except this past week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Louisville, with the, I guess, slight upset of Miami.
[SPEAKER_01]: they consider a ranked win.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a ranked win for Louisville at Miami Falls to an unranked team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Despite what are you doing with being a better team throughout the six.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Never mind.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had hope.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the, but the, the quads and the net ranks are part of what the committee considers.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's.
[SPEAKER_01]: And net is a abbreviation, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, is an acronym?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's NCAA valuation tool or something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: RPI is RPI and I'm losing RPI a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, that's what net was designed to replace was because people thought P.I was a.
[SPEAKER_01]: a lesser thing, but then there's all these other things.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's Bart Torvik has his own, like a lot of individual analysts have their things.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like Ken Palm is also something people look at.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need a subscription to get into a lot of Ken Palm, but that's what a lot of people look at when they're filling out their tournaments.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be like, all these teams are in the top 12 of a just division.
[SPEAKER_04]: They just don't see.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's going to happen?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I've got la nardi never, he's he's the only one I know because of ESPN but like he's that predicting what would happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just analyzing the results of what happened and putting it together.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a lot of hard work to be doing all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I couldn't imagine being a Bracatologist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'll read people's thinking and rational behind it and everything and I'm just like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like, I'm even even I, you know, I'm a big bubble watch sicko because I like seeing the like seeing those fringe teams and seeing when they I when like the doors open for them this weekend pretty good example it seemed like every bubble team was losing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So all of these bubble teams who are going to be left out of the field now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just look at.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you had the opportunities.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: the upper type.
[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently, Texas is a shoe-in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we just got this last week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Texas is a shoe-in at 18 and 13.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, they're just like easily biased, baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: The worst it can be is a tendency.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, they're not even on the last, they're first, the last four in.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're just saying, I'm like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're not good.
[SPEAKER_04]: They just lost the season finale to Oklahoma at home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yikes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's continue with other shoe ends because they have one, their conference tournaments.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although, well, I don't know, I want to give a congratulation to Queen's college.
[SPEAKER_01]: First time in the NCAA tournament, these are the conference championship games I love Sean.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Queen's versus Central Arkansas and it up going into overtime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Central Arkansas and it up losing.
[SPEAKER_01]: by five points.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was ninety eight ninety three and I believe their star player had forty nine points.
[SPEAKER_01]: Single handedly kept them in the game got the game tying shot in the final line.
[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't get the fifty burger though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not he had a three point one second left.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he wasn't forty six.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it was he should have been should have been Shay got drew a foul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he should.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, should have
[SPEAKER_01]: But both of those schools and some kind of Queens also had ten threes, I think, and I saw a graphic, he might have hit one later, and I just missed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he had ten threes, and that wasn't his eye for the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: This man has made a couple of those at threes multiple times.
[SPEAKER_01]: For death, love to see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But both of these schools were playing for their first trip to the NCAA tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we love a game like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: did the game look like it was played in a high school gym because those are my favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely a smaller gym.
[SPEAKER_04]: When they stormed the court, it was like, oh, that's everybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no body left in the dance because that's all the entire dance.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we will also give Northern Iowa a congratulations, even though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_01]: Northern Iowa, you, you of course, finally remember them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I defeating Texas on a half-court buzzer baiter back in 2016, and then they blew the Yeah, the worst the
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna go off track if they won as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: They won the Missouri Valley Conference.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were the sixth seed because nothing, everything is always pandemonium in arch madness.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do I remember this?
[SPEAKER_01]: NBC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I, I mean, I've been watching the, the March madness compilations and that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Inbound the ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: That one is always.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the the Texas one is always on it because it's a lot of buzzer beaters and came winters and stuff, but the A&M one I still remember this this is another dumb thing about sports and it's it's maybe just the the panic of having a little bit of pressure on you as a college child or in some cases in early I or mid 20s man Teams cannot inbound the ball in college like it's baffling even this queen's game they were winning by I think 11
[SPEAKER_01]: and it got cut to three real quick because they just kept turning the ball and they would just either throw it right to the other team, they'd throw it out of bounds, and this game we're going back to again from 10 years ago, but northern Iowa gives up a 14 point lead in 32 seconds and multiple times, a player in about it gets the ball in bounded,
[SPEAKER_01]: Has his dribble just seems very confused about what to do throws the ball tries to do the like jump and throw the ball off someone's leg out of bounds and they just takes a name just ducks out of the way and It's an easy lap and I remember in that game maybe like three or four minutes to go a guy followed out and the the announcers made a huge deal
[SPEAKER_01]: multiple times we're saying how critical of a loss that what's that guy had like two points but he was the guy who would inbound the ball on their press break and apparently no one else knew what to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you not practice somebody else inbounding the ball?
[SPEAKER_01]: Just truly, truly baffling and we've seen more of that throughout this tournament but that's you know what that's
[SPEAKER_01]: We've all been in stressful situations.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't fault.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we can't fault.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's understandable at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what we will not be seeing is mercyhurst college in the NCA tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we're going to see the long island formerly black birds now these sharks.
[SPEAKER_04]: because no, no, different animal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even remotely in the cruise.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're going to be lucky.
[SPEAKER_01]: I both of those James both Mercyhurst and Long Island one their semi-final games.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Mercyhurst is in that Transitionary period from D2 into D1, which is much longer than it needs to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as a result, Long Island just for winning the semi-finals, makes it into the NCAA tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe they would have won a matchup versus Mercyhurst, but it's like, come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give him a chance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Super, that not only have to pay a buttload of money to go to D1,
[SPEAKER_04]: Not get the play.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand it the reason.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure there's some reason there's a reason for everything Well, there's some reason for not everything, but I guess you don't want to just go and jump it around So we try to keep it where they're at unless they're really fully committed to do this.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you Show us how committed you are.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're so committed.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll give them our spot in an NCAA tournament That guy we do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did I it they did shorten this
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it used to be five years and now it was five due to D1 is three years and D3 to D1 is four years.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Mercyhurst is currently in the process.
[SPEAKER_04]: But James Madison football.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, it's it's rough.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do reserve the right to revisit this take, because a time that this happened and it ended up being pretty chaotic in the NCAA tournament, you might remember the Fairly Dickinson Knights.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're sitting Purdue, just the second time a 16 seed has beaten a one seed, those knights of the Fairly Dicks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where, where not the winners of their conference championship is the same type of thing where the actual winner was in Elish, but I can remember it was a transition area period or some other reason they were in Elish, but like just like a self-imposed thing for other impermissible benefits or something, but it's happened before and sometimes it leads to great results on
[SPEAKER_01]: I come, you know, come to the end of this tournament.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dan Groves just goes on to have a career out of the school.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure, sure, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I meant the, I meant the, the second place team getting the, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, but I don't even, I can't believe I can't, I don't even watch any college basketball all season till this past week.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, you know what, the basketball's pretty good, it's not, it's not, it's not.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not painfully, it's not about the clanks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I watched the, he's been played.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Missouri passed a couple of days.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was a fun watch.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is, Missouri's winning the whole game, but then choked late and he's the whole one.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Houston, they've only got five losses on the season, but it's just like, what's wrong with Houston?
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like, oh, they're just playing with their food.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then at the very end, just come back.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been entertained.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, not watching Texas men's basketball.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why we don't we don't we don't need to I don't need this for my help like let me just watch other teams now know very little about But I'm about to learn about them cuz in two weeks we turn them in We turn them in and To even even less than that shone.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really about a week and a half will be starting the tournament We're one as a recording or one week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh next the lecture sunday Tuesday
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so we're we're closer than you think and next episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: We will be going through our brackets slash sharing some fun stories slash Breaking down the best mascots and eat
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe any color schemes too.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know if there's any truly outrageous colors, but I feel like there's always at least one Eclactic mix that I like sing so we're we'll break all of that down next week But we've got one more dumb thing to talk about and this is fans getting into it with players with the college age players.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes with college age players the biggest
[SPEAKER_01]: I, a situation of this of the past week was, you tap versus Jacksonville State.
[SPEAKER_01]: So two,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, two teams that are playing to win the, like they're all the, the only way they'll make the tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a regular season again, but the only way they'll make the tournament is winning their conference tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a rough season.
[SPEAKER_01]: And during the handshakes, when players are demonstrating good sportsmanship, saying good game to each other, a UTEP fan getting into it with a Jacksonville State player.
[SPEAKER_01]: Think you think, of course, that much.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you picked up a chair,
[SPEAKER_01]: And look like he was going to try to keep it at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then probably realize this chair is too heavy and there's people in between us.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me not do that and thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: He not says that would be a song, not something you want to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do not know the veracity of this, but there are some rumblings that the Jacksonville State player that he was directing his I or two hit blown.
[SPEAKER_01]: One or more kisses to his wife or the woman he was with and he did not care for that and I'm just like What you've got to intercept the kiss if you're mad about you just catch it And I'm going up like it's like you're passing a note in class and you're trying to hide the evidence
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand, like, you don't know his him personally.
[SPEAKER_04]: He don't know you, how are you gonna give, why?
[SPEAKER_04]: What level of mind do you go to a game with?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's past insane like I go to game drunk all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't feel like fighting the players I'm gonna do a chair at him and the chair is gonna go half a row down It's not gonna make it to the player I'm in the end it's injuring and edited by a standard where everybody's innocent cuz I shouldn't be throwing a chair I'm like the one thing's gonna happen is I'm gonna get jumped by either security the other team fans or the players themselves Depending on who the player is like
[SPEAKER_04]: Why, just don't, I guess fan it truly is short for a fanatic because that is, that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is, it is crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, same.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been, we've been a games together, but drunk and we've never, we've never even, even just like raising my voice.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I don't even do at a game, just to even just to boo.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I do enjoy joining the boo's when a picture does too many, I like throws over to first.
[SPEAKER_01]: extra like really hit the the be on the booze for the first and it's funny when it is the first or the first and it's just one throw just to check like you're supposed to do now he's wasting a time here it's me I've thrown to first I was it was feeling a little nostalgic on Friday was I had had had a larger lunch than I had planned so you know when you've
[SPEAKER_01]: get up and like work this off somehow like walk around but you just can't you can't escape the couch I was in that situation it was a rough time so I threw on I wanted to look up little big league because I had seen a clip recommended to me on YouTube and I was like that movie was an enjoyable time but couldn't find it streaming anywhere so I opted for the movie that came
[SPEAKER_01]: similar premise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rookie of the year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thomasy and Nicholas's Henry Rowan Gardner.
[SPEAKER_01]: I
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I certainly knew this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen this movie many times, but forgot that Gary Bucy is the main the main picture in that movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember Daniel Stern getting locked in a cage at one point and also gets stuck in between two hotel doors.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what a silly plot to the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are unfamiliar, go to Disney Plus if you have it and watch it immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: because it's very 90s, and it's just, there's so many, what was silly little bits to it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you asking for the plot, Sean?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, I'm just, I'm thinking about the early 90s influx of baseball movies.
[UNKNOWN]: Like,
[SPEAKER_04]: with actual major league baseball teams and that's happening more you had I mean you had a little big league yet you had rookie of the year you had uh with the Charlie Scheen one the uh major league yet major league like you had uh even saying that they at the end you see the Dodgers like
[SPEAKER_04]: Like what was going on in the early 90s but just MLB just wanted to have all the movies and just in the outfield like well There is a stream so this also man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where are those?
[SPEAKER_04]: But baseball's got some popularity.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know how you get back just being a bunch of movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I'm trying to think what the last baseball related media.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I did just rewatch Brockmire, but that's a TV show.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a show that I thought got canceled too soon, pitch, which was about the first female pitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, major leagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: Starring Mark Paul Gossler as the rugged old catcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, Zach Morris is playing.
[SPEAKER_01]: A nearly retired veteran on a baseball team.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was, I mean, that was years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like many years ago in the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: I never saw money ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, money ball is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: But even that is.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a long time like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a where are these movies?
[SPEAKER_04]: They need to bring these movies back.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you want to bring some popularity back.
[SPEAKER_01]: they truly do, but not to spoil the end of or just spoil a scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a scene in Rookie of the Year, but there's a part where you haven't seen Rookie of the Year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, if you haven't seen Rookie of the Year, if you haven't seen Rookie of the Year, if you haven't done in five cans like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: This came out in 1993, so lots of times for a spoiler, but the general
[SPEAKER_01]: If you saw the trailer, they certainly go into this, but Henry Rowan Gardner, who's a 12-year-old kid, I think he slips on a ball while playing Little League and lands in such a way that the tendons in his shoulder heal super aggressively that he can throw a ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: insane and he he gets discovered by throwing a ball if you met a lot of stadiums do this butrigley i believe was maybe the first or one of the first whereas in opposing team hits a home run you throw it back and so he throws it back he throws it to the catcher from the outfield and then the matter yeah the better who has not gotten a home plate yet despite
[SPEAKER_01]: That balls in the stands for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this better is really taking his time getting a ride.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he slides it, he's right in front of the base.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like falls down and slides in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, he certainly would not be out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if he was down like that's a home run.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does a matter of a fan goes back onto the field.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not, you can't be tagged out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are several questionable plot devices in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, these movies, you're not expecting a fully tight script and airtight script.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but there's a play where he picks a guy off via calling him chicken.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just drops the ball a lot, calls him chicken a bunch, mock-buck box, and scrubs fans out there might recognize Neal Flynn, or fans of the middle, also a great show.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the janitor on scrubs, and he's,
[SPEAKER_01]: the dad on the middle, but he's the first basement on this team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Totally forgot he was in this movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was a pleasant face to see on their he joins in on the clucking and
[SPEAKER_01]: Somehow he can, this 12-year-old kid convinces the base runner that he's going to throw the ball up as high as he can.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's a race to tag him out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's technically not a pick-off, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, or technically, is a pick-off, but it's not a throw to the first base.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just, and what's even crazier is that this 12-year-old kid runs this guy down
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he doesn't even throw it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just chases him down and beats it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And 12, we are not fast.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to beat him made or not, run it a straight line.
[SPEAKER_01]: And half way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm not going to go back and watch this movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember seeing some of this movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like, it's.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hated the end.
[SPEAKER_04]: The end bothered me because, you know, they wouldn't have penned it.
[SPEAKER_04]: His arm heals correctly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I'm just fooling everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I don't have his correctly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they wouldn't, you know, penned it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, but, you know, not if he's the regular 12 year old, he can't pitch anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, because he doesn't have a fast fall.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then like the very end, it just shows his wounds.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, I wanted to see the world series.
[SPEAKER_04]: My wife made a show with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look at the 15 wasn't in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was no point in the movie having it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, 23 years too early in the Cub's winning.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because winning the World Series.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's also a line at the beginning about how they're last.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't even made it to the World Series in since 1945.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess it was still true up until 2016 because they still never made the World Series except for that one time they won it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was glorious as a Cub's fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: and really just as a fan of baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we've got to watch all these 90s movie shun.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do our baseball, and then we'll do
[SPEAKER_01]: and like throw break downs.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was basing it off of like realism plus acting plus, you know, if there's cameo's and stuff, like a fun, fun bonus and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's he's going in all these things how like, you know, in certain movies, maybe they actually got real minor league players as the extras, so it's people who are competent at baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like very well, like he goes in all this detail about a different
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, pants and like dolly shots and stuff and how they pulled off all these crazy camera moves and then his number one movie is airbud 7th inning Fetch Come on man It's like a two hour video just why I could not watch anyone said it because I can't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: He made it to number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ever what it was just like that's pretty good
[SPEAKER_01]: He got you.
[SPEAKER_01]: He brought the whole thing just, um, and yeah, but it was really as cool to see because there's several movies I'd never even heard of on there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, that'd be fun to watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then seeing the ones where I had seen it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was in this little nostalgia kick.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, I didn't even...
[SPEAKER_01]: notice like I think there was one where he was saying how how much louder the sound effects are than the crowd so it's like you can barely hear the crowd but a crack of the bat is like definitely good shots which I guess is if it's an empty stadium I guess that's accurate but it was a full one it was sold out crap anyway what a what a treat I'll see if I can dig this video okay
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we've made it through all of the dumb college basketball moments as well as a few other dumb side bars as if you're looking for a great college basketball movie I watched six men this week ran away.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great college basketball.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah, it's me that I hadn't seen it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it's seen it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's some cameo.
[SPEAKER_04]: John Thompson's in the deep play, Georgetown.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was in the movie because I was just like, I see that guy all the time on TV, but like, oh, he was actually in this movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: The actual coach of Jerusalem.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder how a lot of those things come in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because like in Rookie of the year, Barry Barnes had a couple of the major leaders are in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, does their agent just be like, yeah, you want to be in this movie?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, do you want to be in like Mike?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm down by a little bow out like
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if it's like a such a minimal time commitment like if it's just one scene or something that you're at like I think that would be yeah, I don't know That course movies.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sports movies utilizing the actual league spring back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let's get more of that Please, and I don't yeah, I don't want I don't want the pro athlete to be in the movie the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want I don't want space here Yes, I just yes, thank you Just one just one a brief cameo
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, either them playing their sport or criticizing someone else playing this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: The movie where with a train wreck that Beth performs was from a Marys Adamar to me because he was hurt all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Punch and fire extinguishers down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, we're supposed to have something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: Classic movies from the 90s that incorporated athletes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sports are done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get those brackets ready.