[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Homemaker Sheep podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are rescuing the art of Homemaking from the daily grind with with red lips.
[SPEAKER_01]: No denim jumpers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Angela Rita of Preason Farm Girl, my co-host for the last six years is Jay Elliott of the Elliott Homestead.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are here with you every Monday while you're driving the kids to school, folding laundry, on your way to work, taking care of parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty soon you're going to be pulling weeds with us in your AirPods.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't wait for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's such an honor to be here with you doing this fabulous thing that we call home making.
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you, Shay?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Angel is hungry, everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you like, I just just write when we flip the mics on, it hit me.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's no, no way.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you think she's getting old and seen Isle or something, she's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not getting old and seen Isle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Shay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can sneak some bacon over it, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're recording.
[SPEAKER_00]: Need a post-it note.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: How am I?
[SPEAKER_00]: I am doing better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got the sweetest card in the mail today from my friend, Cali Cali for listening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just cut your card.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is this little handwritten note?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just saying, I know winter's not easy and I know the landscape of your work is changing and just the world is changing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But keep going.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it had a little package of seeds in it and it was just the most darling.
[SPEAKER_00]: special thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that really lifted my spirits.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Kelly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: How are things there today?
[SPEAKER_01]: Winding sort of winding down, which is nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know pointing out from day to day over just just you know the just closing dinners soon and okay people are starting to go their separate ways for catechism or go swimming with friends or whatever so that means I get a little time to myself and theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: hear me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm to paint my floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm doing right now, painting floor, which floor?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're conservatory, the black and white.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So way back when ladies, remember blogs, remember those.
[SPEAKER_00]: Angela had this house.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she painted, was it paint?
[SPEAKER_00]: That was paint, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: She painted this black and white checkered floor.
[SPEAKER_00]: And kind of, I guess you had kind of turned it into your office a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember when you put that plastic table in because that's what you had and you put the little silk table cloth over it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: First it was this beautiful porch and it had my green velvet sofa on the black and white floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love that and my like I had like my statues at the time I think at two or three one day I was so inspired
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, the simplicity, I think we've talked about it a little bit, you know, we're going to look today at like restore to me a take on the verse restore to me the joy of my salvation and we're going to talk about restore to me the joy of my home making.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I remember one day where my broccoli had gone to flower.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I caught it and put it in an arrangement.
[SPEAKER_01]: on the table with my statues on my black and white floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was so many years ago, and I loved that floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love in Europe, the black and white marble floors, so not a checkerboard, but it's called Harla Kuenu turn it on the diagonal or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've wanted to do that here for years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we've taken the floors from the kitchen that we took out.
[SPEAKER_01]: We saved the wood and put them in.
[SPEAKER_01]: the conservatory greenhouse from porch area and huge.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's so much work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it is a lot of work, but I am in the zone as far as like mapping out the pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think when I pull the tape, there's going to be a couple diamonds that
[SPEAKER_01]: Right on them as for the techniques, you know, such, such, but somehow I was able to like just keep adjusting them with each row, I like a millimeter and get it back on track then so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty so there's me this morning that you know seven o'clock with my rustolium painting black.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in between subjects today during homeschool painting black.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the dark last night taping, you know, so it'll be worth it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's going to be so worth it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just have to get the one side done, so I can polyurethane it and then move all the furniture to that side.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can do the second side.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still raw wood on the second side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the floor that you were putting the rope in?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it isn't, but it's the same type of floor, which is why we went over the top of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The rope was a joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, people were standing there and I put rope and I was like, I've actually had a friend that tried to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the rope, if you, if it varied, if the plank, you know, if the crevice size varied, then the rope sags, and falls through, or if you have a solid flavor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's terrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's terrible?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was, I was thinking about that floor, actually recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: I spent a bunch of times scrubbing through old photos in my,
[SPEAKER_00]: photo catalog on my computer recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of where this idea for today's episode popped and restored to me the joy of my home making.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what I found when I was looking through all of these photographs is you're essentially you take photos of a highlight real of your life.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we do.
[SPEAKER_00]: We take photos of moments that we want to remember, special events,
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when you look back, it's easy to say, oh, times were like this back then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you can also, if you take photos for as long as I've taken photos, you can notice some tendencies in yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can sort of start to notice some patterns.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I realized that I've most definitely been in a season of not finding the joy in my home making as I once did.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's probably a lot of different reasons for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted to spend some time looking back, not in the sense of what would we have changed.
[SPEAKER_00]: But just in the sense of tapping into that piece of us that existed at some point.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're listening to this at some point, something pinked in your heart or in your mind and drove you to wanting
[SPEAKER_00]: to curate your home as a homemaker something goes to this podcast to listen to this podcast when you go listen to a true crime podcast or whatever you're here because something in your heart there was some like there was some genesis of that and I think remembering that is really really valuable for going forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you look back, you know, when I feel like in a rut today and I look back at those pictures, it does first of all, I'm like, dang.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dang.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's the broccoli or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but it's not that times were easier than, but but the lens was different, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so maybe we just need to like clean the lens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we have this great little studio.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a studio now, a music studio for Stu.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little one room, chicken house that we built.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when there was chickens in it, it was very charming, it's shingled, it's very sweet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I had put this old nesting wooden nesting box on the porch, and this was during the fall, and I had stuck some brume-dried brume corn next to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to arrange these pumpkins and terracotta pots and put fresh straw in the laying boxes and hung these cute baskets by the door and I showed stew this picture and I was like, look look what I used to do and he's like, well you know that was curated like you made you put all those things together so you could take a picture of it and I said that's true but there was something in me that wanted to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was something in me that was like, I know myself back then my life and I know my floors needed to be going right, right, right, it's not like I had all of this crazy spare time, but there was something in me that was just like stop and create something beautiful and that's really what I noticed looking through these photos.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I want to talk about today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, before we, before we delve so far into the restore to me, let's, okay, read on your comments here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've grabbed these over on Spotify, us being us, you guys, um, Angela spent about 15 minutes before we started recording, tried to figure out how to get our comments from Apple, which is where a lot of you listen to your podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: until we realized after that 15 minutes that I think the comments are the reviews.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still not 100%.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're an apple listener, which most of you are, leave a review where at four and a half stars, help us get to five stars.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll never be five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, listen, come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Help us to stir out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And leave a air quote review.
[SPEAKER_01]: It counts as a comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll read it on the air.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just think like your face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ash said.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's reading.
[SPEAKER_00]: Reminds.
[SPEAKER_00]: That to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like your face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody the other day on YouTube was like just just went after me like full stop about how I talk with my hands on camera.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Pray tell, should I?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just say, why don't you send me your YouTube channel link and I'll see how I can, I'll see how you do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see how you do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see how you do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see how
[SPEAKER_01]: people are more comfortable when you're confident.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, trust me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, I've been very lucky in that people on the most part are really, really kind.
[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes there's some really wonderful people that I pull a lot from online, like Peter McKinnon is a great videographer and photographer, completely different style than mine, but he has really
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and sometimes I see the comments and his YouTube videos about what people will say about him, and I'm like, look, if you can go after Peter McKinnon like this, I'm grateful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like someone says anything nice about me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know sometimes you see stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, Ash said, she's reading reminds me of when she started working out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love this because I've said this many times before.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're new here, way back when we started the podcast, I had never worked out in my life other than when I was forced to.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did play some sports and had to do some gym classes and stuff in school, but you know, nothing like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just assumed I wasn't that person.
[SPEAKER_00]: But over time, you can change.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's kind of the picture here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that here I am, or six years into this podcast, I have been working out consistently.
[SPEAKER_00]: not gloriously, but consistently for six years.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I just am a person who works out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a part of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: The same happened with reading when we did no screen November.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always read, but this was like, I want to read.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to prove to myself that I can read through some of these hard works and challenging books.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I say, everyone should read Dante with a guide, with a guide, the tour guide.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Artemis is an agreement with me on the weathering heights.
[SPEAKER_01]: She says it's her favorite book.
[SPEAKER_01]: And while I won't comment on the newest film, side eyes, the Tom Hardy BBC masterpiece weathering heights from 2009.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think is a pretty solid adaptation that largely tracks with the book keeping so much of the language and even dives into the second generation that many adaptations skip, not sure which or just exact ages, but it's what made me pick up the
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just don't expect it to be like a, well, it's what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's dark.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's dark.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like a love story.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a love story.
[SPEAKER_00]: I finished the great Gatsby couple of weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a great forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember the the gentleman who wrote the forward, but he was saying, you have to take this book for what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a great, but there's no great message of hope or great.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not my favorite at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I really loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was just like, don't even try to read that stuff into this because it in here.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that type of a book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting to you because it's an American book and we we're all about that, you know, and it's so, it's so impossibly American.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have actually never been to New York and somehow he captures it so well, it's like you're there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be no other book, but like great American literature.
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it, but it's not a story of redemption.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Erica says hi ladies from Elberta, Elberta.
[SPEAKER_01]: How did you say Elberta?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, it's like my frong lay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming out, I'll stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to stop because I knew I sounded like a moron.
[SPEAKER_01]: Elberta, I know what it is, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I fall home schooling mom of five kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Between 11 and two years old, and I am in the trenches of major renovations on our farmhouse.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a blessing to see things evolve around the house, but while I'm homeschooling and cooking and watching my busy toddler all day, long in the garage because the rest of the house is filled with mud tape and shifted furniture.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to say it's a bit rough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Any words of wisdom that might help.
[SPEAKER_00]: Erica here's what I would say you'll get through it just got to get through it do what you got to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: use paper plates, that's what Angela would say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Use paper plates, and let the kids stay in their pajamas all day long.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do what you need to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: My encouragement, I think what's hard when you're renovating a house is like projects becomes circular.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like this project runs into this project, which runs years.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then before you know it, you've been in that state for too long.
[SPEAKER_00]: My encouragement would be to like, wisdom looking back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I wouldn't have tried to like break my family over a quick progress.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish we would have done a piece and then like rested and enjoyed it and reset emotionally.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because when you're living a long set, it's really, really, really taxing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just had to.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've got drapes in my doorways and everything from the conservatory is in the living room and it's utter chaos and the other day I just took the curtain tie back off the drape but just stretched it across I can't look at that like I can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see the chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so sometimes, clean, I'm about like clean surfaces and hiding things.
[SPEAKER_01]: That helps me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you can't do that all the time with the big project.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I found myself trying to counter the whatever project it was by like,
[SPEAKER_00]: over cooking, nice food, they're like lessen the pain because everyone is genuinely happier if they have like a muffin or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: A muffin.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was so much of the renovation that I couldn't help with.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot I could, a lot I couldn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so here I am, it's my idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've set the dominoes in effect and then pour stews in there and he's the one having to.
[SPEAKER_00]: whatever rip off the stuck over something.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like trying to just that ceiling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was so awful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's been some easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some real doosies.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be that was always really helpful for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It helped me to feel normal.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it really helped the atmosphere of the home to stay perky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here's one from Amy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been listening since 2021 back when my boyfriend now husband was deployed and I craved a home in babies to take care of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I married in a stay-at-home mom of two babies under two and I feel a bit lost or bored in motherhood.
[SPEAKER_00]: My question is, how do you break up them and not in the of life?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you create your businesses while you were new into motherhood?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love a little creative project but I also feel stuck on where to start.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, funny thing is if you email me, my Gmail account is the wooden ladder at gmail.com.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had one baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was pregnant with my second and I did start my very first online business.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I had my blog, but it wasn't doing anything monetarily.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was just a creative outlet for photography and for writing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like bouquets and reefs and crassages and stuff for weddings and events and things like this because I was a florist or a decade.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that was my trade.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I knew how to do and I had access to these really beautiful silk flowers.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would create these.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes custom sometimes not pieces together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was like a little something that I could do during nap time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Little something that I could poke away on that was.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was mine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's, I think it's really typical Amy to feel a little bit bored, because I remember saying to Stu, I'm smart, I can do stuff, I can have conversations, I can play chess, I can think strategically through things, and I don't get to access any of those muscles during the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like there is poop, clean the poop.
[SPEAKER_01]: take out your boob.
[SPEAKER_01]: Clean the poop.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's I mean, yeah, normal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, I think, you know, nap time is when I would try to be creative.
[SPEAKER_01]: I put my kids to bed early.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was younger and so I had energy and lots of creative energy at night, lots of, are you messing with your coloring?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's my first time.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening?
[SPEAKER_00]: Sunmove.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, it's really green.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mine's really pink, like in real life.
[SPEAKER_01]: This lipstick is red and I could not get it to look red on the screen.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like I'm wearing like major magenta lipstick.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was really creative in the evenings.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would put on music.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, okay, I think it's a night can anniversary right now of the Marie Antoinette movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sophia Coppola's Marie Antoinette.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I
[SPEAKER_01]: Love the soundtrack and I would turn that on and like paint in my kitchen and I was actually doing all these really creative Marie and twinette projects where I would like print her picture on like iron on transfer and then
[SPEAKER_01]: I had, like, muslin fabric and I would shred the edges.
[SPEAKER_01]: Iron Marie Antoinette on and, like, go to the thrift store and by, like, a big oil painting paint over it, glue on the Marie Antoinette fabric.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I was selling those on Etsy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing all this sort of like creative like raised paint textured paint with fabric Marie and Twinnett stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know maybe some listeners do because they bought them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're really helped by groceries.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was just so fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just remember just standing in my kitchen and I have a candle
[SPEAKER_01]: not that I didn't love the daytime, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But there was something so cathartic about getting creative when the kids went to bed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've said before, like, my creativity as an adult really searched after having kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and I always say lying out of creativity is like vomit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, try and hold that in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you try to hold that in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead and try to
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's one more and then and then I think this will kind of work as a segue.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is from Maya Joy.
[SPEAKER_00]: This podcast is an answered prayer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I longed for mentors to help me learn how to be a homemaker and God brought Shay and Angela to my ears.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's so sweet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a loyal listener since 2022 and I was 21 years old expecting our first baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are making me feel old by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I started listening to it and I was in grade school.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have taught me so much and brought laughter and beauty to my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the endless encouragement and shameless permission to take pride in being a homemaker.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is something that you did as a young homemaker that you look back on and laugh?
[SPEAKER_00]: This will be a good segue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay, it's not to make me sound snobby.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just wouldn't do it now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so if you're doing this, it's not a disk on you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But my little sister had like a program at her school where you could order food.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, gosh, I wonder what it was called.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder if it's still around, but like I would order like pre-made lasagna and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, from her school.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what it was called, but um, and I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't make the stupid lasagna myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew how one day, I took it out of the, I don't know if it was microwave or no, because I got rid of my microwave.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was one of the first weirdo things I did 30 years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: I took it out of the oven.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had an all white kitchen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had like hand painted fruit on the cabinets.
[SPEAKER_01]: I freaking dropped it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it exploded all over my kitchen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like just ceiling everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hot, lasagna.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably the last time I ordered.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's, it makes me laugh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, I ordered school food.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I think there was definitely a time that's
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we were just like, let's do it all.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were, we got married young, you know, we, we went through.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had graduated college when we met, but Stu hadn't even started yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we kind of, we went through school together, we went through.
[SPEAKER_00]: Student loans together, we went through babies and cross-country moves, et cetera, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when we got jobs and we started having our family, we were just so excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we were just really joyful people who wanted to really, like, just bite into life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wouldn't necessarily take that back.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember he would come home from work and I'd be like, oh, I picked up four full-grown guise at the feed store, or like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I ordered another cow off Craigslist or here's a puppy or you know, I got this litter of kids are like okay and I and then you coupled that with like I think a little bit of little bit of kind of food dogmatism of like
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do every single thing from scratch catch up tomato paste kombucha like dog food Do you still like feed your dogs?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my most popular blog post of all that time My dog food homemade chicken food that beg stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not good enough Mm-hmm and it didn't come from this like
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: It came from this, like, I just have a curiosity towards life.
[SPEAKER_00]: It drives my Italian tutors crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would we use this one here?
[SPEAKER_00]: And not this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, that's just the way we do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So to my French tutor the other day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, in sounds, I used the word at instead of in.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, that sounds weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, well, in sounds weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I was just like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I think when we we look back on that time where we were, we had four kids under five brand new house renovating everything piglets running around, you know, homemade Jesus just rotten down in the room.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like it was too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very generous soul and he doesn't say I told you so, but he kind of shakes his head a little bit like
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's not do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that's just age two, you're just.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a ton of energy or a little bit more vicious maybe, but anyway, but all that's to say so let's go back to this this topic of restored to me can I can I just respond to somebody in the comments really quick and then we'll go okay there's I felt I feel I feel I feel is asking about my French tutor so if you just want to email me I'll hook you up angel at Parisianfarmbrill.com.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, get you connected.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was coming back through.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not been the easiest winter for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: As we all know, I went and saw my doctor yesterday, which was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel really good about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna not overshare on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: However,
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a tipping point where I realized, like, oh, something has changed in the way that you're feeling about things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I remember when my kids were little, we'd have dinner, and I would put them down to bed.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were also very early to bed family, and I would go out into my gardens, spring, summer, fall.
[SPEAKER_00]: and I would take a basket, whatever basket I could find that day, and I would go outside, and I would just pick and gather, and it could be seed pods, or acorns, or dried flowers, or rose buds.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was just always a weird little smattering, and I would go out, and I would collect these things, and I would almost like paint.
[SPEAKER_00]: my basket, I would like arrange things perfectly in there so that it looked balanced, textureally and color.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I did nothing with these baskets.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like bring them inside and throw the stuff on the next day, but it was just this exercise of pausing, calming down, going outside, focusing on beauty, taking some beautiful photographs of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I realized that I just totally stopped doing this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that, but it's like I would make bread,
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would take pictures of it, I would take pictures of the kids eating it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, these, all of these things still exist in a lot of ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still making bread.
[SPEAKER_00]: We still have these beautiful meals as a family, et cetera, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is something about photographing them.
[SPEAKER_00]: That just says, hey, eyes, this is how today went.
[SPEAKER_00]: The dog hair has been vacuumed up.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is how today went.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's something about, I don't know if it's just how my brain works.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if yours works this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was meaningful for me to see and just say, there's something that's been disconnected here because by the way, your home making tasks they're not really gonna change so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're kinda gonna keep doing these same things and same things over and over again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to get bored?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to joyfully move forward in that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you feel like your joy has changed?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a board, I'm in a board chapter.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like I'm on a very, very, and I'm in process working on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like I'm in a very leather rinse repeat chapter of life.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing new.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yes, I'm working on my bathroom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm working on the conservatory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those projects aren't like four and five years in the making.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't feel very joyful.
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like I better freaking get this done because I cannot look at an upside down bathtub in my laundry room for one more month, haunting me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, loser, too bad you don't have this done yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so we had about that live in our dining room for six months.
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been up there like for years so and that's just from doing so much and like I've said not everybody wants to do projects in this house as bad as I do Not naming anything and I kind of doing a lot of the work, but I some you know you gotta have like the electric you know that I mean so So we're not new here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not exploring the island
[SPEAKER_01]: As a family, on Sunday afternoon, you know, there's nothing super new.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's new nuance, there's prepping a child for college.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's getting one, a driver's license, but like, that's a lot of admin.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not exactly fun in a like a stimulating artistic creative.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: On a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it just feels extremely repetitive between get up, work out, return a few emails, homeschool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody starts whining that they're hungry, feed them, clean it up, homeschool some more, try to get some work done, run a lot of laundry, prep dinner, exhausted, go to bed.
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot and winter doesn't help because it's so dull up here and I'm just I can't wait for summer because summer is just I come alive but I just do feel very leather and three-peat and so I appreciate someone else saying like having for bid we actually admit actually this
[SPEAKER_01]: Expressing creativity, you know, yesterday I cleaned like a maniac.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been out of town doing college visits and I got the kids situated for school.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just said, like, I'm going to be back and forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to clean and I Back came to cobwebs in ceiling corners and crevices and clean toilets.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just went as crazy as I could with the amount of time in the main rooms that were in that really take a beating.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I know that always have like a little silly table of house plants and just very small scale and I bought three Gerber daisies left over from women's day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Put them in my fish potter on my window sill, went down to my little shop in the basement, bought three towels for myself, put them on the range.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like tea towels, freshened it up and you know, those little things make a difference, but I
[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I don't know, proud of myself, but I thought, you know, good for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't just stare at the window sill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you, you did something creative.
[SPEAKER_01]: You added some beauty.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now do that again.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's let's add that to the leather rinse repeat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's just it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like these moments that I was looking back on that were documented.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were not mountain top moments.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a kid took a nap and you went off and swept the
[SPEAKER_00]: and moved a few things around and made a little thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were very, very ordinary things.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's actually, I gotta adjust here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's okay, full first off.
[SPEAKER_00]: You and I have had this conversation personally because we were saying, is it a spiritual issue if we're bored?
[SPEAKER_00]: And board does not mean not busy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Board means that there are very alive pieces of you that live within you, that become a little atrophied and they become a little sad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like knocking at you like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey friend, hey friend, I want to come out to play.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think when you feel that and then you need to go and just make supper.
[SPEAKER_00]: but it's not time let's say that you could make a creative supper.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just got to like slap dash something together.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's boring for the person right once to cultivate beauty.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other day Angela, I threw a side might to do us.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had so much to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I literally just pushed it aside like it didn't exist.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I made this old, I got out my old rugged Italian cookbook and I made this sage and white wine braised rabbit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we sat there and ate it and I was just mowning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so happy because the night before I had just had to like totally patch work together this like enchilada casserole with like half a tin of beans left over.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one, whatever, de-vrusted ground me I had and this kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are two fundamentally different expressions of the same work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of them makes me giddy and I'm really excited about the work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like one of them wants me to, it makes me wanna put music on, wipe off all the counters, empty the dishwasher, light the candle, set the table, and one of them just is like, okay, dinner's ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a tough time of year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really need it to be somewhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I'm really looking forward to just feeling like alive again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: My doctor told me yesterday that bless her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She sat with me for two hours, two hours, which is just unheard of.
[SPEAKER_00]: And.
[SPEAKER_00]: She really reiterated to me the fact that not everybody's constitution is built for every season or environment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like now because people just they just moved and you can you can just go anywhere and do anything and.
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean that's actually going to be where you thrive it's it can be almost like she like into trying to work a job that doesn't play to any of your strengths.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you could probably do it, but you're certainly not the best person for the job and it's going to take a toll.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which I hadn't really thought about.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't really thought about before I just thought pull yourself up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is real life, which means we can just like up and move somewhere or magically take on some great new task that's going to excite us.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what, when you think about like restoring, do you get radical?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you just say, okay, what do I do today?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I could go both, like Stu said to me one time, he goes, if I came to you right now, and I was just like, let's figure out how to move to Italy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just figure it out today.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what would you say?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really thought about it because he was really serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, let's go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't tease me like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then did you start like mentally back peddling on all the logistics selling the animals?
[SPEAKER_01]: Would would you keep your house like what did you did you start taking through all the things or Oh, yeah, I mean, or did you feel that like who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I felt like things do feel impossible until you just do them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, execution is every, you know, and it's like we've started a business.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've raised four kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've started other businesses.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've started this homestead with neither of us having any sort of experience whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done hard things before and I know how you do them.
[SPEAKER_00]: You literally just do the next thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just do the next thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't I didn't feel like.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't feel like it was unimaginable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I told Stu, look, we have gotten married.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've had four kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have this beautiful home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all of those things are grateful for.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what our homemakers can feel a little bog down is like, if I'm bored or if I don't feel that joy in my home making, is that a spiritual issue?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But at some point, we had to kind of break away and pursue these things too and I've told him like we've done those really exciting like big huge mount top life things, but like weren't I'm not done yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm not done yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that kind of you kind of know what to do next.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, get married with have babies.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think okay, I think you really, okay, that's really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: as we're chewing on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That there is a chapter in life where you do know what to do next, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, oh, or you, or at least you know what the next thing is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Should I get married yesterday or not?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't, you know what the next thing is.
[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of know what the next thing is.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to do it high school.
[SPEAKER_00]: Am I going to go to school or not?
[SPEAKER_00]: OK. Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, either way, you just kind of know what the next step is.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you hit this age, it's really difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't want to say everything's wide open.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: We live within time, logistical, financial,
[SPEAKER_00]: obligatory constraints, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But given that, given that, people to awesome things in the later part of their life, they become writers and artists and,
[SPEAKER_00]: They get cool jobs, they change careers.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have some friends of ours.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a wildlife biologist for years and years and very successful.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he got bored.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had this great job.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just got bored.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to do something else.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he went back to school and he became a police officer.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he does now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he loves it.
[SPEAKER_01]: My hairdresser, if I told you about my hairdresser, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's part owner of the salon.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has been doing my hair for decades.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's 60.
[SPEAKER_01]: Phenomenal, like just one of the best, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: He got bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is now a part time hairdresser and a part time flight attendant.
[SPEAKER_01]: He got a new job, a new career 60 at
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to do something, just to do something that he's always wanted to do loves to travel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's like one of the best, like his co-workers are like, could you stop?
[SPEAKER_01]: Please, you're making us look bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he loves people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shmoos is it up, checks of manifest.
[SPEAKER_01]: See who's birthday it is, brings them a little treat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like old school flying, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just elated.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just he's just loves it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I think I think there's just like, yeah, you know what's next.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, right now, like I don't really know what's next.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I can do something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I, I do cool things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not like let's not I do cool things, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's next?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I feel like my house.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've switched rooms and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_00]: It's done.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not done.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's never done.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you guys do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's set up the way it's going to be set up.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've painted the walls.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've ripped off the stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we've taken out the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've done these big things.
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, if you are creative or just
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then those times stop, you know, and you know, there's no more pregnancy announcements, like, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, which is totally fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are really joyful, beautiful pieces of life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know from reading your comments that a lot of you guys are there right now and like, save for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good night.
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved that time of my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so bloody hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look back on it now and when I think about restoring the joy back to my home making that's where I'm going in my head, the feeling that feeling not circumstantially like I don't want to go back to where you know paychecks from that period or the sleepless nights from nursing or any of those things is beautiful as all of that was.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that piece of you that was just so on fire for making your home that you were willing to eat out of a cooler for two weeks, so you could rip your kitchen apart or, you know, what's doing I had to go through to get a mortgage was
[SPEAKER_00]: harder than child birth.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the guy just kept saying, you've just not quite arrived yet, but I knew this house, and I was like, that is my house.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will bleed out on that front porch before I let somebody else apply it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a lot of, we didn't have financial help, but we had like, um, logistical help.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Council with figuring out how to make it happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was like, I don't know, there was something ahead that you could kind of sink your teeth into a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was always kind of a goal and objective.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think when you hit that rinse and repeat stage of things, which obviously comes at different times because the woman in the comments told us that she felt that way, full of newborns.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, where do you go, where do you go to get that joy restored?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and is it two different things is restore the joy of my home making different than what is next for this chapter of my life or what what's appropriate to add to this chapter I think that's where I map personally is like what is appropriate to add so everything's pretty steady everything's pretty even.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, like what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Hobby, what do I get to do now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there are, because it is a little bit more manageable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think, I think it's both.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think those are so, so intertwined a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm also looking at like, okay, what, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: you plant seeds for a future chapter.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've planted a lot of seeds back in the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's be able to re-figure to, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Listening to Marie Antoinette, soundtracks, and doing Marie Antoinette are like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, puttsing around with like,
[SPEAKER_01]: just tinkering around with learning French.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those were all like seeds, seed, seed, seed, seed, seed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then that turns into something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now learning the language is like my number one hobby and aside from gardening and I take people to Paris.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, so I'm right now in this chapter, I'm still gonna be cultivating that because the trips are.
[SPEAKER_01]: becoming more and more what are the seeds for down the road, you know, and that would that sounds exciting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so like I've thought about that and it's interesting, because we were so focused in an earlier season about cultivating our home for our children.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no guarantee that my children
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, look, I know, but it's like this is the reality, especially going about this with like the worldview that we really try to hold, which is like these children are ours for a season.
[SPEAKER_00]: We raise them up in the fear and admonition of the Lord and the Lord is going to use them for what he wishes them to be used for, not what I want.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to be a supportive, caring parent.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when they say, this is on my heart to do this, I want to say, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: let me help you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That being said, if they get married and move away, I'm going to be so in their business.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's weird is like I've got all these gardens and I've got all these things that make home so awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: but like I have friends who are in their late 60s, all their kids live different places.
[SPEAKER_00]: And their yard is rocks for a reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll lock that key, they don't have a cat.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll lock it up and they go to Australia and they visit one kid and they go here and they visit another.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, fun to mention years creating ties that find.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're like, should we need to unravel these a little bit?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I feel like that having a dairy cow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised we did it for as long as we did because it's such a big commitment.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that is weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a natural phase of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird when it happens to you and you have to realize your your joy in your home making isn't going to be the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be found in the same things that it was found in before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, because the season changes and what's next for you, your home making might look significantly different than what it looks like before.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not having babies, you might be helping your daughters to take care of their babies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty, please.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Please.
[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's this stupid commercial.
[SPEAKER_00]: We watch a lot of Scooby-Jake as a family.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know Scooby-Jake?
[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, it's this is what YouTube was made for.
[SPEAKER_00]: He puts on a go-for, and he dives places, rivers, and stuff, and he finds iPhones and coins,
[SPEAKER_00]: It's usually just the sound of bubbles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it's one of those shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's still always sit down to watch something as a family.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody enjoys watching school a joke.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, that sounds fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, there's a commercial that runs on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is these little babies.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a huggy's commercial.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it sends me to the moon.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my kids now know that when they see this commercial, they'll look at me and be like, don't worry, Mom, we'll give you a song and I'm like,
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll rub, baby, it's the little scratching, it's like, I could smell them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I basically just aren't lactating, watching this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, tingling booms in there, so beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the ties that bind and then and then eventually home might look significantly different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that freak you out?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't freak me out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Freaks me out like, gosh,
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a lot of my identity walking around here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, in the sense of like, oh my gosh, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm what in the world?
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, it looks like you've got like some really bad pixie or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And see my camera, I don't know if it come up loved or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're a river.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you reverse?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you were reverse.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean we can't see this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, it must have that must be your camera.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your computer camera.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it doesn't freak me out at all because I know that I get bored and I don't think it's a soul like I'm not discontent.
[SPEAKER_00]: I see that I do not feel that when I want to go to Italy, it's not because I don't want to be here, and that's hard for people to understand.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not here or there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not this or that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's two things being true at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it feels.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like when life is interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it doesn't bring me out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and maybe maybe that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's what I'm maybe that's what I'm maybe that's what I'm experiencing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just not very interesting right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a lot of interest like a lot of things interest me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you look at my books all the different, you know, like I read you paying you learn friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you cook some garden.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it just doesn't feel I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of exciting actually because my wheels are spinning.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, look, when I, when I don't feel joy where I'm at, it's usually a really good inclination that I need to really pray about stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it means that something needs to change a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean a huge crazy life-changing thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just means a little change.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that that might just be like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you just need to move your furniture.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know I was gonna say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might just need to be that you need to move your furniture.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might need to be that you start to devote yourself to something physically.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might need to be that, yeah, you do kind of close out some of your gardens and turn them back into lawn and just give yourself permission or just take a break for a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Give yourself permission to take your break for a year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't start any seeds this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not starting any seeds.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just gonna go to stuff and buy it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to go buy it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: My space is under construction.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to add dirt to, you know, the mix.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I could do it off in one corner.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could get out all the lights.
[SPEAKER_01]: And last year, I just found this amazing nursery.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I won't, I won't have my Lizzie and this, but I just, I'm, I'm not going to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks for thinking out loud with us ladies, um, you guys know the thrill here, which is we don't come to you when we figured things out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We hash them out.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're working on the job with the other.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like co-workers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so take aways.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have, you have permission to be bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little hard
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know in the comments over on Spotify or on your five star reviews on Apple.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we can kind of let us know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know too, like, it took a lot for me to say to you the other day, like, I'm over.
[SPEAKER_01]: I told my mom last week, I'm bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's, like, we got some stick buzz and hangups about even just saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not done yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just don't feel that new.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, ladies.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for being here with us today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: See you next week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.