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[SPEAKER_03]: That's me Kyle Manit today, talking with actress Haley Lou Richardson, you have seen her in the edge of 17 split.
[SPEAKER_03]: She made a big turn in the second season of White Lotus, and now she's back in Gorver Benski's first film in a decade.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good luck, have fun, don't die, starring opposite Sam Rockwell.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a bonkers movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: We use that word a lot in this interview and it's a good way to describe it There's other ways to describe it and we will also say those in this interview as well And Haley is going to get into how the script landed in a lap Why ingrid instantly kicked clicked as a character with her?
[SPEAKER_03]: And what it's like anchoring a movie, she calls everything but the kitchen sink genre-wise.
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, for Bensky even called it his psychotic opera, also a good way to describe the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which the actual synopsis of the film, a man claiming to be from the future, played by Sam Rockwell, takes the patrons of an iconic Los Angeles diner hostage.
[SPEAKER_03]: and search of unlikely recruits and a quest to save the world from impending AI and isolation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that kind of sums it up, but it also doesn't even begin to really tell what this movie is and what it's about.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so Hayley Lou and I are going to talk all about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's also going to share stories from the set with Sam Rockwell, including helping him prep his now iconic scene for the White Lotus.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all that's and so much more.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is seriously one of my favorite interviews in a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking good luck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't die.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Kyle and Meredith with Haley Lou Richardson.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Kha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was really excited to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty, you know, I'm KMS saying, and I've had a cold or flu or something for two and a half week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've seen better days, but I've also seen worse days.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really great to have you here then now.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is everything I hope to have expected.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing me at my best.
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you today?
[SPEAKER_03]: I just held my pee for a really long time and then ran to the bathroom hoping that you all didn't jump on and I got back like 10 seconds before you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but you got your pee out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got my pee out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So happy for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's the same thing, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're on the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do have an overactive bladder.
[SPEAKER_01]: I pee like every hour on the dot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, we'll see if it happens somewhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: If the dot happens in here, but hopefully not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really sure to lot about myself within the first 15 seconds here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's how I start most friendships.
[SPEAKER_03]: Talking about my body.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, really, good luck, have fun, don't die.
[SPEAKER_03]: What a brilliantly bonkers movie that you got to be a part of.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, BB.
[SPEAKER_03]: BB, iteration, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love iteration.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is definitely brilliantly bonkers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would concur.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also Gore for Benzki's first film in a decade, like that puts something on it right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: With this, did you get the pitch first or did you get the script first?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm wondering how this story arrives to you and how you accept it.
[SPEAKER_01]: trying to think, well, one of my agents was kind of a role in getting the film made, and so she told me, she didn't really pitch the movie to me, but she said, haily, there's a good script.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want you to do it, which is rare, because oftentimes they send me scripts, and they're like,
[SPEAKER_01]: You can pass on this one, but like so I get really excited when I hear one of them say, we're sending you something that we actually want for you, like we're excited about.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, gore, and then I got the script and like I actually read it all in one sitting, like which is also rare.
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially if you have to pee every hour, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I read it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I held my pee the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how much I loved it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm a slow reader and fast peer that's a I have no more jokes for that part All the piss jokes Did you know did you know the character that you were that you were reading for?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well the ensemble, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ingrid is kind of the only one I really could have played But you know what I kind of like or the best
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't tell everyone else, but I got angry to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I really like ingrid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I immediately like, not necessarily like saw myself in her, but I could see and feel myself playing her, which is cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when a character like when you're reading them on the page and they like spark something in you that's like, oh yeah, I can like feel myself doing this and not being, and being inspired and having fun and not being bored.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just get the player like there's a little bit of a creepy vibe that we see.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she's like mysterious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't gone to play a lot of mysterious characters because I'm not very mysterious.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can tell by the opening of our conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really am not, yeah, I've definitely don't give mysterious vibes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've tried to be a mysterious gal, but it's just not in my blood.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's an ingrown's blood.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like being able to whip that deep down part of myself out for her because I really like her a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll be right back right after this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, back.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Kyle, man, it's with Hayley, Lou Richardson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you, because it seems like you would have done most of this shoot in the same dress that you were in?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they had, it was, first of all, I was amazed at this costume department.
[SPEAKER_01]: They made by hand all of these princess dresses.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's exactly what I envisioned and I know exactly what Coran visioned because he really loves England too.
[SPEAKER_01]: He like, I think he felt like very like paternally protective and cared for angered and like felt like her deep kind of emotional anchor of the movie too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he like really was protective of her and
[SPEAKER_01]: And naturally, so was I as the actor playing her.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the way that she kind of like visually came together with the hair, the dress, everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it really felt so right for both of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, in most things, I think, I guess you would wear the same cost to most of the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I guess there's something about a princess dress that like, like, you did the whole shoot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they had, they made because they handmade them.
[SPEAKER_01]: That, like, hero, blue dress.
[SPEAKER_01]: They made, I don't know, probably 10 to 20 different versions.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like different amounts dirty or burned or bloody.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but yeah, it was, it was sometimes the corset was rough.
[SPEAKER_01]: because I eat a lot on set that's like how I stay awake and like stay energetic and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people like don't like eating at work.
[SPEAKER_01]: This makes them tired.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the opposite for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like always, I'm like always snacking.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the course it like, I would just pick you listening a little bit, give us a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the end, there's like no more ribbon left to loosen.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can find you the crafty, the entire time, that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that's a favorite spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what's the great thing about?
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe even the the the the tough thing about the movie is I I want to tell everybody about the movie, but I don't want to tell them anything about the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I completely understand that because it's like, I'll show you, it's kind of a hard movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess you can like sum it up in like a little blurb to sentence thing, but like it's so much more than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like the tone is someone asked me like, well, all my family would like asked me while I was filming like, what, what genre is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, it's pretty much everything except romance.
[SPEAKER_01]: That there's maybe a little bit of that in there actually like it kind of touches on all the genres like in the most batshit ways.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, batshit's a good word.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like what's what kind of what genre is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's batshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how Gore has been describing it since day one.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been calling it his psychotic opera.
[SPEAKER_03]: that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm like accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very musical.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the way when I first met him, he was like really obsessive about kind of the rhythm of the movie that he was envisioning and feeling and like in a very musical way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then also he described it like,
[SPEAKER_01]: a soup.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he urged chili.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, a chili.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he, who is a chili or soup?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is a chili a soup?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who comment below?
[SPEAKER_01]: He said that Ingrid was the special ingredient.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you say that to all the cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his secret ingredient.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You put that on the business cart?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my special skills that then my resume, good at being a secret and good.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll be right back right after this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Kyle, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's with Haley Lou Richardson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you all think about like the more, because I've watched it two and a half times now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, what a half.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want to meet weird about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to make it weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a half is way less weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I've noticed like the more time I've spent a way from it, the more I start thinking about like, oh, like, do you all win your, when you're working on it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that's a different experience and everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, do you talk about the what-ifs and the theories that can kind of come out of a story like this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think we definitely like the cast, we were all like goofy and having like dumb conversation, but we're also all like really, I wouldn't say cerebral, but what I'd say, like like having kind of deep, kind of thoughtful conversations about things.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we had a lot of kind of aha moments of figuring out
[SPEAKER_01]: like, wait, if this is this, what is this like twist or this discovery really mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we had a lot of moments like that really thoughtful cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like all those guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a fun time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it looks like, and you get to play up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, a lot of people, but of course, Sam Rockwell, and just hearing about that, you've white lotus alumni, both of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fun, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was offered that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we were in South Africa filming this and he was he asked me to like kind of read through that scene with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like an iconic scene now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, and I was just like in his trailer and he was like, I don't know, is this guy too creepy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are people going to think I'm a creep if I do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I think people will understand you're playing a character, and I think you have to do this, Sam.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that was a pretty serious hearing that scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know, well, I guess we all know Mike's writing from watching the first two seasons,
[SPEAKER_01]: like out of context with not knowing what was going on in the third season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what is Mike on?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is happening?
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like it would go right in with everything that you were doing on this movie and it just ponies by the way and everything because I know we got to wrap up and just seeing that everything that you're doing and the book I'm sad and horny will plug that really quick because it's fun to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just like, can you really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, I have read some of the stuff you put in there, and it's your fantastic in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, wow, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm not, I'm not on my period or anything like that, but yeah, I can still.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not good at everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm bad at tennis.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, like seriously, congrats on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good luck, have fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't die.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so damn good, and it's been such fun talking to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been nice talking to you too and I'm glad you got your P out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you weren't sitting here having to pee the whole time talking.
[SPEAKER_03]: My thanks to Hailey, good luck, have fun, don't die in theaters now.
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