[SPEAKER_02]: What's up, everybody?
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to The Stack on Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's up, I'm Pete.
[SPEAKER_02]: And on The Stack, we talk about a bunch of books that have come out this week and oh boy, it was a big week for comic books.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of great comics, a lot of big ones and a really big one that we're gonna talk about right off here, which is ultimate spider-man number 24 from Marvel written by Jonathan Hickman, art by Mark O'Chicetto and David Masina,
[SPEAKER_02]: here in the stack, so to the way if you don't want spoilers.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's the final issue of ultimate Spider-Man, the flagship title of the entire ultimate line.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a little delayed, but we are picking up here with Peter Parker facing down against Kingpin and Mr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Negative, meanwhile his son, Richard and the new Black Cat are trying to take down Kingpins.
[SPEAKER_02]: entire network so that they can become invisible and come back home and live and it all gets wrapped up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or does it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, it does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, you seem pretty psyched about this one, so take it away.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, first off, um, what an ending.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just beautiful, powerful, uh, team.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Jay and Peter all the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just really great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I absolutely loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, crazy kingpin ending here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, uh, that was, uh, I did not see that coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: love the art had a blast with this uh... start up started clapping as soon as uh... finished reading it wow let me ask you a question let's say there wasn't a page at the end with mj and peter together how would you feel about this book
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say the Kingpink stuff was very cool and it didn't seem coming, but I probably wouldn't like the ending as much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously it's part of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm not dismissing that in any way, but you are happens in the comic.
[SPEAKER_02]: It happens in the comic for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say I was very well-mbed by this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked it Ultimate Spider-Man has always raised a high bar for the entire line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I just want to so I want to be able to understand You would follow along when you say you were very well I was well you were like, oh, I'm so fucking well-mbed by this comic.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is I said I was in So well-mbed and I'm well-mbed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was well-mbed up
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't underwhelmed, I wasn't overwhelmed, I was just welcomed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what I mean by this is the way you said it sounded like maybe you were a little bit more hyped than a well.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I thought this was a solid issue of ultimate spider-man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It had a nice wrap around in terms of the come-versation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, between MJ and Peter, I thought it was nice that they gave it enough room to wrap things up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something we've, well, I'll speak for myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been complaining about a little bit with Ultimate Black Panther and Ultimate X-Men as those did not feel like last issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: This title, this is Lee's came closer while still leaving an open for the sort of forever story of Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's even teases about what could happen next,
[SPEAKER_02]: to me felt like okay you're still also not ending this though again that might be nod to well the battle is never ending so which is fine I mean I guess we'll see what happens it's it's tough for me to separate this from the feelings I'm starting to have about the whole ultimate line which is a little bit of confusion and frustration about how this ending is rolling out but
[SPEAKER_02]: Take it as a whole, this issue, good art throughout, really enjoy the character.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was a great art.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good, art throughout.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think this was the strongest that Marko Chateau and David Messina have been in the series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think the kid can fight was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the conversation with Kingpin.
[SPEAKER_01]: How about the negative panel with like,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's Green Goblin's mask and you're seeing like, you know, two characters fight in the reflection.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's great art.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's good stuff throughout here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, there was a very high bar that has been raised with ultimate Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this...
[SPEAKER_02]: hit that bar without vaulting over it, did I use the sportsman?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know the Olympics are going on and you're a professional curler, I believe Pete, that's correct, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, congratulations on the bronze, wasn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure, yeah, sure, I'll take it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, this hit the mark, but it didn't surpass it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess what I'm saying, that was my general feeling about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the counter side to that, please, I thought the art was really impressive also the kind of venom and those panels were just I thought so very kind of powerful felt very epic for.
[SPEAKER_01]: the title of ultimate so i felt like you know the art kind of did at least live up to the name i felt like there was some really you know huge panels that were kind of a very action driven and kind of awe inspiring so
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm also a sucker for, you know, a certain ship and the fact that I got this also kind of put me over the kind of top as far as that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think my general impression is that I wish
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish the book was a little more focused.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something that I've talked about all log is Peter Parker feels like the minorist of characters in Ultimate Spider-Man, and a lot of this is about him not so much growing up, but accepting his age, something that he talks about in the latter half of this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also got a very nice flashback to when Peter and Mary Jane realized they were pregnant with their first kid, which I thought was nicely done, but because Peter Parker was so sad to do so much of going on here over the course of these 24 issues, I don't think quite had the impact for me when we finally narrowed it and focused hard on Peter Parker in this last issue that I would have wanted because there were so many other characters that were given
[SPEAKER_02]: interesting like the stuff the pop for remor was Harry Osborne and Gwen Stacy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: The stuff the pop for remor was like Uncle Ben and JJ on a JMS said, be like, well, we did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we going to stop typing?
[SPEAKER_02]: and that JJ J. J. gave you a look and do you like, that's what I thought, that those were some nice cappers in great moments.
[SPEAKER_02]: What we spent more time with those characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when it was the end of the book was about Peter and Mary Jane, I was like, I guess that's what it was about, but was that what it was about?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We spent more time with, I felt better about Richard kissing Black Cat because we spent more time with that relationship that we have with Mary J. and Peter.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the nice things about Spider-Man is that the other characters are so interesting that you can spend a lot of time away from Peter and not get to, like, you know, this doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I generally agree with you, but I agree with you in the continuity of the made universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the continuity of this new ultimate universe that is 24 issues log and done now and over according to Marvel, I wish we had focused in a little better, that's all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I disagree.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I disagree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all absolute Batman number 17 from DC comics written by Scott Snyder art by Hermann Kennedy was the first of a two-part arc that is bringing on absolute poison ivy and I Another bigger issue of this book is Batman fights his way to the top of building that's taken over by poison ivy What I hear is something
[SPEAKER_02]: that it's sort of like contrast to what I usually say that you're going to be about this issue didn't match the cover.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that is that was a little bummed out when they depicted absolute poison ivy at all the covers is like a sexy lady.
[SPEAKER_02]: So far, we've gotten black bass, who was a little skeleton freak, and then we have things up with like Joker, who is a drag at a bay, who is a monstrous flesh-boughten, and all these other characters who are horror characters, so to see Poison Ivy on the cover be like, yeah, it's Poison Ivy, you know what this is?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not who she is, and that's not what's going out of the book at all, as it's slowly revealed over the course of this, and so I thought
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I also thought Eric Kinetti's art was a really good fit with Victor Goda, normally being on the title.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I love that Batman keeps kicking kids off of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he puned to that baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I don't know if you can call her a kid, but he kicks Barbara Gordon off of a cliff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: They sure does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, this crazy cool cover, so we got kind of like an artist's shift here for this, but it's really well done.
[SPEAKER_01]: The splash page of poison ivy's face is just incredible and gross and amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we don't have beef Batman in this, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not as he's a little bit more kind of like spawn a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty beefy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's definitely beefy, but we kind of have like a wraparound cowl and we get double chainsaw's Batman, which is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's still very absolute.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are kind of action figure, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that seems insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what's...
[SPEAKER_01]: and i don't mean i don't want to complain because i'm having a great time but we're just getting kind of like every issue they're like oh and this villain and this villain and this villain and i'm still back at joker because like
[SPEAKER_01]: that joker was so insane that I can't I'm like, yeah, but what's he doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can't even show him what's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, I will say insane how much they are layering on in every issue and it feels exciting every time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you can just get one panel of corner bottles, I was like, we can't!
[SPEAKER_01]: There's too much!
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do more!
[SPEAKER_01]: I need
[SPEAKER_02]: that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that
[SPEAKER_02]: Riddler, isn't even answering riddles, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And two face has a skull split in half, but left the hospital is wandering around somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not to mention, there's Dick Grayson, who doesn't like that man at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his hanging out with somebody that I don't know who it is, but I want to say it's probably Rose Wilson, the daughter of Destrock, probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like he said, at the end of the issue, they're like, at also the court of Al-O.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I forgot a Harley Quinn of the Red Hood gag as well as there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of stuff balancing, but what's happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think it's a credit to Scott Snyder that he keeps all of these plates spinning, like maybe they'll come crashing down at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: But right now, it's really focused on Bruce's emotional journey.
[SPEAKER_02]: contrasted with what Batman is going through and how the two intersect.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also, since Bane and I love this part of the issue, there's been a turning point in the city.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're now the city is like Batman's a celebrity and he's very specific about like, that's not what I was supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just supposed to come here to do this mission and get out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm a symbol.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually do think court of owls is coming out at the right time because they different court of owls.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure we're going to find out they have a very different focus and I imagine the reason for bringing them in has something to do with the city adopting Batman as their symbol.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my problem, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love all of this, but there is Joker Islands.
[SPEAKER_01]: where he is trapping people and chasing them, he's also in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, welcome back Jack Grimm for a set of costumes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're checking in with him as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, can I, can I, I've been throwing out a lot of metaphors.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I think is going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like, if I was like, hey Pete, do you want to go to the 16 handles and put your mouth under the spout?
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be like, hell yeah, I want to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you're there and you're like, that for you is coming into your mouth and like, this is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at a certain point, you're like, actually, I don't know if I could breathe anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's still delicious and I'm still eating it, but I probably can have diced you because there's yogurt all over my face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's exactly it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of feeling like the guys on the floating recliners, and it was at the, no, my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyocracy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all your thinking of Wally, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the best of your living or best life is your future.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, I'm like, what is the milkshake today?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you probably stop, but I'm like, no, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are delicious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's lots more coming, so I just, I need, just mentally, I need to know more about the Joker so I can kind of focus on everybody else, because everybody else is no problem being like, oh, I'm going to talk about these things, I can't even have to wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think because Joker is the big bad of the series, and he already in the RKM special was like, I got to roll out these four or five other bad guys for it's like, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be so satisfying when he comes back and thought he comes face-to-face with Batman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do we move on?
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about the Muppets Noir number of data might by Roger Langridge.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have Roger on the podcast for a special episode about a month back.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can listen to him talk about why he came back for the Muppets after his lauded run at Boom Studios.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say it back in the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the idea here is that Kermit is trying to just relax on the set of the Muppets show when he gets it by a brick.
[SPEAKER_02]: And imagines that he is inside a film noir world as flip-mino PI trying to track down Miss Piggy.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a delight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody does the puppets like Roger Lageridge.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just jokes mile a minute, particularly because Muppet Fever is hot right now with Muppet Show being back.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this was really well timed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So funny, they nailed the tone of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like the show in comic form.
[SPEAKER_01]: So well executed, such a great idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Gonzo entrance, oh my god, I was having such a great time.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do such a great job with this, it's in such great hands.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only is it a sterkle, but the animation.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art style is just so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's exactly what you think it is and it really delivers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and on the arch style thing, I think it's great that Roger has his own specific takes on the muppets that are not one to one with the puppets you see on screen, but they feel all a part of the world that he's put him in, and it is just, it's just fun, it's a fun, fun, and jokes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jokes per minute comic book.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what I was saying there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jokes per page.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jokes per page.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jokes per page.
[SPEAKER_02]: only there's more weirdness waiting for him there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like a gross point blank sort of thing, but way haped up through the skewed lens of Kyle Starks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, I think you really like this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Correct me if I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you are not wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't correct you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I also really love the kind of last twist that we get.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this is just the first issue, but I'm really hoping this kind of turns into uh, a wrong kind of gross pulling playing situation because it seems like that's what's being set up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So fingers crossed.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I was really locked in by the end going all of this seems great We kind of have a douchebag type character or hopefully grow into a better being a better human being and hopefully You know Can hold down this relationship, but we'll see
[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting ahead of ourselves here, Alex.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a first thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a question a little bit off of this, not to pry too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: How was your Valentine's Day, Pete?
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: Feels like you're very focused on romance and happy endings right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's weird when you say happy endings.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean like jerking off to completion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, that wasn't clear.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, you're a real asshole.
[SPEAKER_02]: So sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had this book, so my Valentine's was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me and this book had a lovely time.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you, you felt like you got a happy ending for this book?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: What rain weapons of Armageddon number one for Marvel by Chip Sedarsky, art by Luka Mareska.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is part of the kickoff to Marvel's big summer event called Armageddon that we don't know much about at this point, but this is the start of knowing stuff about it is Wolverine because on a semi-solo mission because somebody called Prime Warrior has kidnapped a mutant and it's not exactly starting the weapon X program,
[SPEAKER_02]: is basically starting with the Weapon X program.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the middle of that, there is also Nuke is going to come in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And David Colton, the Captain America of the 2000s that ship Starsky introduced over in Captain America is playing in here as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So lots of characters going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, you're our Wolfie guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, we kind of get this start up here and it's like you've said we've seen this before, you know, we're Wolverine's drinking at a bar then they call out to him and like you're not going to believe this and he's like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it keeps happening!
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so, you know, and you're like, all right, um, so it seems like we're kind of building up towards this cover image here, which, cool, you know, I love a premise at work, so, you know, let's see if all of this new fighting Wolverine with the Captain America Shield, is that what you're talking about?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm talking about the premise of like,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know Wolverine's got to stop this weapon expo game again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's work can't wait to see how that turns out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, figure's crossed this works out for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, nook, not my favorite character.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'll be interested to see if this gets better.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it is, I like the art in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Luke Nebraska did a good job drawing Wolverine's story.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does all have all those classic beats that you mentioned,
[SPEAKER_02]: snow and everything, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it is in a different way that it was unfair of me to judge ultimate spider band on the entire span of the ultimate universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, I do feel like we need to have a little bit of understanding of what Arba Getted is and I know we're in the ramp up period now, but like,
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, what is the idea?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is the theme we're teasing?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is the thing that we're riffing off?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think There's some seeds that are being laid in a book we're gonna talk about later on where I think it's a little clearer there What they're going for but here like you're saying like it's just another
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it seems like Wolverine's story.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like Wolverine's the Bruce Willis, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, you know, like listen, we need drill and done, and you're the best there is, he's like, all right, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess so, I just, I don't need to see another character with Wolverine claws and different types of adamantium that goes around his body in a different way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that part was very underwhelming where it was like the new weapon acts, and it's like, okay, it's like, we'll bring, but I just load down the metal around his arms, like it's like a barbed wire that can, the problem, the problem is not in the execution of the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gypslearsky, solid writer, the art is good throughout the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is like, why are there basically two Wolverines and two to three
[SPEAKER_02]: this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on here and also they're talking about origin boxes and there's a thing that's like, what do they say?
[SPEAKER_02]: See, reboard, ultimate impact and bay, and I'm like, bro, it's February.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, give me a break here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, that is, I believe probably going to pre-push down the line because the whole ultimate universe thing has been delayed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, you're tying into an event of a thing that isn't going to happen until much later this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that sort of confusion that's frustrating when you're coming to a event story, tell a versus telling the story that is the story, and that's what you're trying to tell.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that was a very circular sentence, but like, I'll compare it directly to what we've
[SPEAKER_02]: You can just read them.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like their stories, they're good stories that you're reading.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I read Titans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like Titans, period.
[SPEAKER_02]: I read on the planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Period.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex, what do you think about this promise, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, hey, you know, Captain America.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're not going to use Captain America.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to use a version that you haven't thought of it a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: That wasn't that popular.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not gonna use Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna also use another version of Wolverine That maybe is new, but it's kind of old and maybe you like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you remember the movie on my getting?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well guess what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, do you guys remember the origin boxes which came from the ultimate spider-bad incursion out of the ultimate universe fitting out of the ultimate but you won't find out what they're here for until may or so also they say boob of the cover Sure go take a look at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says the origin boxes they say boob on the cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just mentioning that you just turned your calculator upside down.
[SPEAKER_01]: How did you get that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did I did that's how I figured it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we're lumping out this a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Smile for that the good news is it can save itself.
[SPEAKER_02]: It can get better you know like I'm here for it
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to be solved.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always want to be reading good comic books and psyched for the event, but just call it an ornament, get it and tell me it's about origin boxes here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to throw out early prediction for you, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think whatever is going on in the series, it ends up with David Colton, getting this origin box, and getting the power to reshape the Marvel universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Wolverine's going to have to be shot in the space and he's going to have to drill to save the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think what's going to happen is Nuke is going to take some animal crackers and deaths them up Wolverine's hairy chest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't want to miss a thing plays.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, let's move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Smile for the camera number one from IDW, written by Hannah Rose, may art by Mariana Puglia.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is tying into these smile movies, specifically focusing on a group of
[SPEAKER_02]: fashion models who are all living in an apartment together and all tried to be famous as they go through fashion week and various gigs they deal with aggressive photographers and other things Pete, imagine you have not seen the smile movies, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's correct and I took one look at this cover and said nope
[SPEAKER_01]: This is too scary for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not something I should be reading But luckily it was daytime out so I felt bright enough to read it for the stack Given that you have no familiarity with smile.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not like it
[SPEAKER_02]: didn't like it like too scary or didn't like it period.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, just didn't like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was too scary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our work is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love the bright colors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really matches the kind of vibe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, crazy last panel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if you you're into this kind of shit, I think you'll like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I've seen both of the smile movies and I didn't love the first one, the second one is fan-tastic, so good, excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, you kind of have to watch the first one too much, the second one, don't you say what's going on?
[SPEAKER_02]: The rules of the smile universe are like a little weird and amorphous.
[SPEAKER_02]: They keep kind of tweaking and changing a little bit, but ultimately, if you see somebody with a smile virus,
[SPEAKER_02]: die you catch it, and then you start seeing people who are smiling at you, either living or dead, who drive you insane until you kill yourself in front of somebody else, etc.
[SPEAKER_02]: etc.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of the thing here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing is they are somewhat feminist tracks, so which is what the first one missed the boat a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's supposed to be a
[SPEAKER_02]: And absolutely now is that, and I think this one, that was a long preamble for this one about the fashion industry, I think it does a really good job channeling that as well through the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to disagree with you about the art a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the panels individually, but they're all unlike these weird canted angles, and I found sometimes it's hard to follow the action in the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: from panels panel and page to page, and also may have needed more like police or time indicators because sometimes you flip it a page and they're just suddenly in a different place or midway through a page, they're in a different place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I found that again, a little hard to follow, little off-putting, but overall I do like this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think this is a good continuation of the smile universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, exquisite corpses, number 10 from image comics written by Jordy Bear Lair and James Todd on the fourth, art by Mariana Nasi with Michael Walsh.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is coming down to ever getting towards the final four serial killers in the small town who are supposed to kill each other and then also everybody in the town.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are very much focusing on the townspeople more in this issue, Pete, what do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, love the art like powerful red panels, colors really set like a sinister tone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, damn that bunny is no joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, amazing art.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is dark and twisted, but also fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I feel about the non-serial killers in this book for the most part, like the humans in a Godzilla movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: thing at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when they kill one of the characters, that's been around for the first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, all right, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I don't need to keep track of that guy, which is very unfair.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think the killers are so distinct.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to care about anybody else, and we're supposed to.
[SPEAKER_02]: That said, there's only really about the humans.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're all humans.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're, that said, there is a scene between our RID-EMT, who's picked up a gun, and one of the guys behind the games who is inside that I thought mythology wise was really interesting the way that they had played out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And very tense.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was my favorite scene in the issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite scene was the rabbit.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, there we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we've set our favorite scenes and we can move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Superman on limited number 10 from DC Comics written by Dan Slot, art by Mike Norton.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a new prankster in town and he is cutting for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to believe this.
[SPEAKER_02]: super bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know, and I didn't see the government.
[SPEAKER_02]: This series is fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like the pressure arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: In particular, I think it leans into Dan Slot's strengths.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Mike Norton, who has a very engaging, more cartoony style, I thought was a perfect match here for the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art sets such a kind of fun tone for dance lots of writing style and yeah, we kind of got that classic kind of reminds me of old school comic books a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're Superman gets himself into trouble and then it's like, oh, it's a good thing I have this new gold super power to use and to get me out of this very specific gem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but yeah, I like the tongue and cheek of this and, uh, you know, uh, this is great, very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Generation X-23 number one from Marvel Written by Jodie Houser, Art by Jack Apocomogdi.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is following X-23 as well as Gabby, as they are kind of teeming up at meeting a bunch of new mutants.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a bunch of twists in this book, including a,
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the simple way of putting it that Laura knew in the past or reveal of some new new mutants That really changes what the concept of the book might be.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about this one Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like this the thought was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great art style cool kind of team up book
[SPEAKER_01]: Love the twist of the last panel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, solid art great vibes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love X-23.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's great to see her in the kind of good team here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm excited for this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see where this is going.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like it sets up at least three or four different concepts and it keeps being like, no, that's not what the book's about.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's not what the book's about.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really do want to read a second issue to know what the book is about once they're past that, but I do like Laura I like Gabby
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some interesting action sequences, particularly there's a great, I want to say it's a double page splash where Laura jumps through this time portal and you get to see all the different versions of her, which I thought was pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a staccato rhythm to the speech that I found a little blunt sometimes, but maybe that's just how Laura speaks, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: white sky number one for the abitch comics written by william harms art by jpeem of vinga this is about a father and daughter who it's not immediately clear i would say from this issue but are travel until you read the back better but are traveling through a post apocalypse where ghosts have froze in the world that creates snow and they're trying to hide from the ghosts did you pick up on that peep?
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... not really but i tell you what that is a fucked up last panel god damn uh... yeah that was crazy i really uh... spoke me uh... melted my brain a little bit um... yeah that uh... yeah some kind of a ten stuff it really makes you think if you're stuck in the post apocalyptic world you better have salt
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked this book and I thought the world was very interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some pretty terrifying creatures throughout.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's some interesting humans and weird things going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got the classic Grizzled Old Guy and Young Girl traveling through a wasteland last of us situation type thing going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's all good.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's reading the back matter and then being like, this is about ghosts that freeze the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, if you say so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, still the first issue, you know, that's the thing that I was thinking about is like,
[SPEAKER_02]: With a movie, you could be a little coy about that thing and pace it out over the course of an hour and a half or something like that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: With a comic book, I don't know how many pages this is exactly, but you've got like 20 backstory pages most times to hook people in the first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it may be think about like how much exposition about your world is necessary.
[SPEAKER_02]: And not that I particularly like somebody being like,
[SPEAKER_02]: It was all over what's the ghosts froze everybody, you know, at the beginning of the book like I don't need that But I do think there's a halfway point between we're wandering a stowing waste lads Why is it there who knows and also being like ghosts did this, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a cool concept I'd love to know a little more of that beyond the authors afterward is all I'd say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that they just set up that last panel to be like
[SPEAKER_01]: fucking tune in to see what the fuck this is about, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I don't know if you can do that with a comic book.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, like, particularly with the first time we're going to find out, we're going to find out, buddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to read White Skye Number 2.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we'll be able to be like, well, we're right, or we were wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He says it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The author says it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There isn't a question about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at my spooky cult ghosts.
[SPEAKER_02]: They should have called it that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This book should have been called Spooky Cold Ghosts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really messed up.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Black Panther 60th anniversary special number one from Marvel, written by Evan Darcy's Cody Ziegler, Merwai Yoda Zee.
[SPEAKER_02]: Please, art by George Giante, Alitha E. Martinez, Edder, Messiah, and Haviar, Peña, the Peems, the Peanuts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, you love this issue, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll leave that email to you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's actually amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've interviewed, talked to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is very exciting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was really happy with not only the teams on this, but the collection of stories that we got in here, the Cody, the second one, the Cody Ziggler story was really awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, just a very kind of touching kind of a father type figure there with Black Panther.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the last one with priest was just, oh man, the Magneto team up, this is just such a great celebration of this character I feel like and they took some big swings and had some cool moments, so I thought they did such a great job.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love when you flip the page in an anthology comic book like this, and you see there is like the second panel is a black box with white text in it, giving seemingly incongruous words.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a priest story.
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Easily identifiable.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did like that one the best.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the Magneeto and Black Panther, like grinding against each other, was there was a lot of really good tension there that I thought was interesting, and this is a good anthology.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're doing it alone, like DC did it for pride as well, kind of, but this new way of doing anthology is where one's story bleeds into the next one is kind of fascinating.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the format that they're playing with here, so that's working for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Minor Arcana number 14 for Boob Studios by Jeff Lemir, let's stuff going down this issue as there is every issue of Minor Arcana as our main character reunites with an old flame and some dark forces are gathering around her.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always love Jeff Lemir's art.
[SPEAKER_02]: I
[SPEAKER_02]: have a hard time hooking into the series sometimes because in this issue there's a lot, there's either like not enough going on by issues or too much going on and I wish it would find a happy medium, but I still like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm, I'm
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the art is so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff Lamir is doing both on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just such a feels like him kind of book, which I love.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just the cover we see here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a cool tone for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love the art.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just great drama.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm eating this up with a fork and knife here.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot wait for the next issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought like the ramp up in this issue and everything was so great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm having a good time with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uncanny X been number 24 from Marvel Written by Gell Simone, art by David Marquez.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the second part of a story that is found.
[SPEAKER_02]: Classic style monsters invading new Orleans to take it over at the behest of a new master and the only thing that stands in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: way, of course, is the X-Men, but because it's Marvel, you got like more be a living vampire, else a bloodstone, wear wolf by night, the actual real Frankenstein, not the doctor, but the monster, let's just be clear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, you can call the monster Frankenstein.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the 2026, everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: And meanwhile, this is, it's a little different structure this issue, but we're still getting this
[SPEAKER_02]: That's being told to the outliers at least at the beginning of the issue at the same time I'm gonna say I love this arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: This might be my favorite arc of uncaddy X-Men so far This is just hitting on every cylinder the arts great the story is great I think these are great Edbees particularly because like most of them are usually kind of good guys So there's a tension there of why are you guys doing this leave the X-Men alone?
[SPEAKER_01]: at bad at ends with a killer last battle that you can see coming through by a way but it doesn't matter because it's still so satisfied what it happens yes yeah I mean I I also love this and surprise how much I'm loving this but what's funny is I saw this cover and I was like oh no
[SPEAKER_01]: The Mobius movie was so the Mobius movie was so bad that it's kind of ruined this character for me I didn't realize that until I saw this image and I was like, oh no I can't enjoy this character without my first stop being like fuck I hated that movie You know, so I didn't realize that till I picked this up, but
[SPEAKER_02]: That's actually something it's funny that's that didn't occur to me at all but so there's two characters on the cover for anybody's literally the audio podcast it's more bias about to bite Jubilee I didn't think about the more bias taken all the only thing I thought about is like oh man Jubilee right she was a vampire that's annoying so it's just funny that we there's two characters on the cover and we each were annoyed by entirely different things
[SPEAKER_01]: But still had a great time with this comic, and I think that's the important thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the Wolverine versus where Wolf is so fun, and then the last panel, which is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm very excited about where this is going and what it's kind of setting up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it seems like a blast, and it seems like Galsamone is killing it and having so much fun with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, come on Simone, I can say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Galsamone Simone!
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: More please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Titans number 32 from DC Comics written by John Layman art by Pete Woods.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe this is the final issue of this team's run on the title, it's a DC KO tie-in.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're wrapping it up before we're kicking into a new Titans that is going to come out of the other end of DC KO.
[SPEAKER_02]: there's going to be a big mystery about their roster.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know what's going on there yet, but this is the end of the middle of the DCKO Titans together one last time.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved all the action.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great art touching ending.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know this is a solid comic get it at the terror joke uh... yeah so this is fun i like the second half of it a little bit better the first part when it was everybody doing a lot of different stuff in like jet world and a lot of different other places
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like these are all fine on their own, but it really literally and figuratively came together when everybody joins together in fights in the DCKO apocalypse.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that worked for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought there was a nice button put on this, but I am excited and curious to see what the new team has in store.
[SPEAKER_02]: Deadly hands have come, Lund, at number one, from Marvel, written by Yiffin Yang, Art, a buy, Paco, Medina, in this, somebody is killing the deadly weapons and so it is up to multiple iron fists to all join together to find out what's going on and try to stop them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, there's a lot going on in this issue, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of characters, a lot of stuff happening, tons of action, setting things up, great arc, I'm excited to see how this is going to all shake out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is, this is a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is too much for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember every time you go to 16 handles, Pete will reading this book because it was just like a nonstop spout of information about iron fist going out here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where I just, I don't know, there's the individual pockets
[SPEAKER_02]: the fake kill several of our favorite characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, geez, that's brutal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wish we had focused it on more like spent more time on the gravity of that happening versus piling on the brutal murder.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you love that part?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just like the repercussion of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the fact that we're like that rover in hell or we're ever Danny Rand is and then we're back with like there is a young I'm fist at a slightly older fist neither of them were Danny Rand and they're talking about Danny Rand all the time And also there's another guy and he has the iron fist thing on his chest and he's somebody's brother and it's certain what I was like This is too much mythology.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is this is about I don't know if you remember This is about a guy with an iron fist
[SPEAKER_02]: This should not be that complicated, and I know it has gotten that complicated.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the point to the series is to unravel and simplify some of that, but it's a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And because it's a lot, I don't get a lot of time to enjoy the individual action beats, I think, as the problem here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm opening once they kind of got in this all out and then start dealing with where the story is going and that kind of stuff it will calm down and we can kind of focus in on a couple people because it's yeah, it's a lot of spinning plates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Deathfight forever number one from image comics written by Andrew McLean art by Alexis Sarritt al-Gafa Sam McKenzie Irwin Papa.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is from your boy headlopper himself, Andrew McLean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now taking on 80 style video games like Street Fighter and Double Dragon and others as well as a little bit of, he got some pee bat in there, he got some GI Joe stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like 80s of a blender basically is what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great way to put it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I put it's like double dragon meets he man in an 80s action Be movie, but I like yours.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I'll tell you what it is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It totally nails it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is So funny like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It gets funny here as it goes on because it starts as like
[SPEAKER_02]: straight forward parody just sort of presenting stuff, but it gets bored more ridiculous, particularly in the second half of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many things that happen that made me laugh out loud.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is embracing all of those tropes, embracing all of these things we talked about, it's loving them, but absolutely skewing them at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the last.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over the top fun, the colors, the brightness, it's all very kind of 80s fun,
[SPEAKER_01]: it's great it knows what it is and also I appreciated that in the beginning because it's like hey you might be thinking about headlopper don't wear it you're getting some and maybe and that was just like oh great thank you for kind of letting me off the hook and be like you it was like hey just read this now that I know like oh great I can have that April I can just focus on this I just think more people should address you personally people
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt very serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get past your very taken care of and yeah, it was great for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great art in here as well and lovely coloring job.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all very bright and neon.
[SPEAKER_02]: It might be a little bit of a shaky cane book, a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: over-the-top action fun really well-drawn cannot wait for the next issue because there's some ludicrous twists and turns.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lutheran.
[SPEAKER_02]: Captain American number seven from Marvel Written by Chipsedarsky, Art by Delio Diaz, and Frank Alpazar in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Captain America's with a small shield team in a lot of area trying to find out if they've been weaponized, meanwhile various forces are fighting for control of a lot of area.
[SPEAKER_02]: and Red Hulk is waiting right outside the borders to come in.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the title I was talking about earlier that is also walking the way up to Armageddon.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say versus the Wolverine thing, I think this does it a little more successfully.
[SPEAKER_02]: in terms of delving into the interesting tensions that are going on behind the scenes or in front of the scenes in some cases in lot of area.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do, I was not the biggest fan of one world under doom, but I do think the fallout stuff has been very interesting dealing with that here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one quibble I have is Captain America.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why chips and Arskie and it was the same thing with the first arc as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of Captain America being like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, this is a complicated situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess I gotta do nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I don't know, maybe do a sub thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just trying to think things out, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but go ahead, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, first off, cool cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: Last panel twist was fun, great art.
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like this felt like a good Captain America book.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to see what's going to happen here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this kind of red, a Hulk and fury and Dr. Doom and all of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm excited to see where this is going.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a bunch of stuff kind of going on, but I felt like I'd dealt with it in a good way where we're kind of still keeping forward momentum as we're kind of dealing with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I enjoyed this and I'm excited for more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Star Trek, the last Starship, number five, provided W. Written by Colin Kelly in Jackson, Lansing, Art by Adrienne Benea.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is taking place the period after the burn that is destroyed in most of the dilithium in the universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So people cannot travel at warp speed anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the last issue we saw how our ship, the Omega, was taking people from the universe and transporting them to one planet they call Babble.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they can have a conference and figure out what to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: For them, 15 to 20 years of past for the Omega, it's only been a couple of weeks if not months, because of some time dilation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So by the time they get there, a lot has changed and they're not prepared for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I continue to really like this series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was a great like classic Star Trek diplomacy issue with a really neat sci-fi twist that led to a pretty dark ending.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's just like a killer last battle here as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I continue to really, really enjoy the series, but what about you, Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, taking the words right out of my mouth, a great last panel of the art.
[SPEAKER_01]: love the characters also the artists like does such great facial stuff where you know these characters so well that you can kind of read their face and like understand what's happening it's just a really impressive artistically there was also some really great like splash pages that felt very epic this just continues to be really great and it's in great hand so
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is the one thing I would say which is not a negative of the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually think it's a positive Is it's crazy that this book is like we have a board queen and a resurrect captain Kirk and they're making out Don't worry about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna follow some other people
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I don't know, I love to know more about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is pretty interesting, but there's so much going on to this book and so much that is fascinating.
[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that that's bubbling in the background and that's just like literally at points like right behind the made characters, that's just like this thing that's gonna pop at some point and I'm so excited to see how it does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dungeons of Doom, a number two from Marvel, written by Benjamin Percy of Philip Kettie Johnson, art by Carlos Magno, George Gianti, Justin Mason, Robert Gil, and Carl Story.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is taking place under a lot of very well-captured America, it was over a lot of area as a bunch of different characters are wandering through the titular judge of the Doom.
[SPEAKER_02]: either trying to protect shut down or take some of the treasures that he has hidden in there and is very much a horror series as they discover some really terrible things that have been down to the dungeon.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this issue was even better than the last issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exciting twists and turns.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the just kind of like
[SPEAKER_01]: Contour of it all was crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: The discovery of the different kinds of stuff that they find is really cool Yeah, I'm It was just really impressed by the pace of this and the kind of different stuff that happened and the use of characters for each kind of set up So yeah, I thought this was awesome
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the piece is, sorry, not the piece, the art is very modern, but it's clearly going for a old school like what was it called, Tomb of Horror type thing with the chapter markings and everything, and I think they're absolutely nailing that tone.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only question I have out of this book, Peter, maybe you have an answer to this one is when did Doom have time to build all this stuff?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he just got these crazy, like, tunnel robots for days.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is he doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he, yeah, he used the robots.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, and he was like, robots build the attempt to concentrate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd also like a steak-spout, water-slide thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that stuff like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to get some robots out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a steak-spout, I mean, you can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, if only there was some sort of robot in modern society that could just take care of stuff for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there would be no problems with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, wonder woman number 30 for DC comics written by Stephanie Williams art by Jeff spokes the second part of a two part arc where the ladies of Themyskirer are trying to protect the baby Trinity but unfortunately she is attack under attack by one of the Greek gods.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great art in this issue like now they against Stephanie Williams rating which is really solid and there's good characterization throughout but man, Jeff spokes has some killer art this
[SPEAKER_02]: of Wonder Woman and Nubia jumping at the batty at the same time that just rocks bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can almost hear music playing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's happening, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just amazing art, you know, the classic keeping a baby safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough job.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a tough job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Classic keeping a baby safe things that you deserve.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're important to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a safe bag.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fucking biological imperative bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_01]: this part of like talking about how like innocence hurts evil.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was such a cool idea, you know, and it just kind of struck me in the middle of this kind of cool and saying comic that that could happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but yeah, just love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just fun last panel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great art, great writing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing Spider-Man number 22 from Marvel written by Joe Kelly, art by Nick Brudge, Todd Knock, and Nathan Stockman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man is back on Earth, trying to figure out exactly what's been going on in his absence as he tries to track down Ad-Mey, tangles with Ben or Riley, and things go a little wrong for his alien companions, and that's what all say to start.
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I'm so glad his alien friends are with him because I like those characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm happy they're continuing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, yeah, for me I'll make it worth it for that sweet hug at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, oh, that was just uh You don't like the fact that Peter is making out with an alien chick who likes ice cream instead of Mary Jane.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that true?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember reading that part.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm listening to block that out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like her.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the alien chick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's better than Mary Jane and I think she's a leader and I want to see them get married in She's stadium by a resurrected stand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lee.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I want to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, this is a great, every issue of this is really solid and good, Joe Kelly's knocking out of the park.
[SPEAKER_02]: American Kaper, number four from Dark Horse Comics, written by Dan Houser, and Lazlo, art by David Lappham.
[SPEAKER_02]: In this issue, at least for part of our reflection, back in time and finding out how our conspiracy
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile in the presence of presence, uh, present, a bunch of folks are tracking down each other leading to a violent conversation in a living room, which is why personally I never go into living rooms.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, what did you think about?
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to stay safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you got to stay living rooms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go around.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of things happen in a living room, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because from tall, directly to the stairs, if you got to go downstairs, you're crawling out the window and come back in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's intense, Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck, that's a crazy, weighted, and a comic god.
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, that last panel is fucking crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Woo hoo hoo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great art, messed up story.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a twisted tale, a great rating, writing, but fuck that ending was crazy, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is pretty crazy what happens towards the end of this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is Uber, violent, throughout.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am curious to see overall what
[SPEAKER_02]: they are saying with this book like not to cut to the end dig or anything like that but i think there's a lot of balls of the air right now and i'm curious to see where they all land i don't know how long it's going on for maybe it is an ongoing series but i guess we'll see america doesn't end and neither does america can k-bur oh well see knock on wood uh i don't jinx america bro yeah we had a we had an okay twenty two hundred fifty year rod
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, not great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic four number eight from Marvel, written by Ryan North, art by Burdo Raybos.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Fantastic Four got a weird signal from Galactus and her headed off to meet him, but meanwhile, we get at first what seems to be a origin of the Fantastic Four, but it turns out there's a planet on the other side of the universe that had the exact same development as Earth, except with one minor difference,
[SPEAKER_02]: visible woman became more and more powerful until she realized she could control electromagnetic waves and accidentally killed everybody on earth except Johnny Storm who lobotomized her and that she killed him and now she's coming for the fantastic four as the invincible woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty wild bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really wild, and this character is fucked up, but God, Alberto Ramos' art is phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm in a tough spot with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is really dark story, and it's the dark story, the way only Ryan North could tell that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was an interesting concept that if you think too hard about it, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: That there was another fantastic form for this long.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why have we never met them before even if they're very very far away and the universe has gotten larger as Galactus explains But it doesn't it's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: The bigger thing is I really would love to know what the conversation about the invisible woman that led to this
[SPEAKER_02]: was at Marvel, because it's not malice, the evil version of Sue Storm, that showed up on the John Bern Run, likely because that's really controversial and people don't necessarily love that now, but the malice costume in the Marvel Rivals game is really popular.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to imagine there was like, Hey, is there any way we can bring back Dallas without bringing back Dallas?
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what they added up with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's just me speculating man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see, everything's viral arrivals, it's all coming up, Marvel rivals.
[SPEAKER_02]: She had Joan number 19 from Skybounded image comics written by Joshua Williamson, art by Andrea Milana, picking up after the dreadnought war Duke has just found the transformer and he is not very happy about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to arrest that transformer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, we're continuing to bubble up the storyline of mask and miles mayhem and meeting
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, first off, I mean, this cover, you don't try to headbutt a transformer.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're like, far head to far head.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You probably would better write it when that would say good.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's scrap iron.
[SPEAKER_01]: What an entrance, bro?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it seemed like you fucked up a whole race just for an entrance, but man Love that energy Yeah, fun times great art.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this younger self is having an amazing nostalgia bath and I don't want this to end.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is so much fun
[SPEAKER_02]: My older self who prefers showers is also enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's really good storytelling in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like all the stuff that they're throwing in, like we found out that Zartén, the master of disguise is pretending to be the head of GI Joe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love how you have to learn these names.
[SPEAKER_02]: This makes me so happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Zartén, I know Zartén.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually know more about GI Joe that I let on Pete.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK. Well, that's not right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete's actually a very a feet-to-business man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I think that gives it a nice amount of tension at running through those scenes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do wish we had a cutaway for the mass stuff because that feels like that cable over from Transformers and I like what's going on at you, I joke, but I would like to read more of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Say, love you.
[SPEAKER_02]: X-Men, number 25 for Marvel, written by Jen McKay, art by Tony Estanio, and Augustine Alessio, in this issue, the X-Men decide to take some action on what Cyclops found out during the age of revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna try to track down Doug Ramsey and stop that before it starts.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the process, they run into Fenris, who are white supremacist mutants now in the desert and fight them.
[SPEAKER_02]: leading to some other revelations, a new leader of one, and then in the short backup story, Beast meets his evil self.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so this comic starts off with Cyclops being a dick giving a lecture.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough way to start But great art though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love the look of these X-Men Fighting Nazis is always fun, so the great action stuff it makes a great kind of turn But then once we started talking about the crimson commando kind of showing up, it got a little weird for me
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That felt like another thing going on when the Federal stuff was so clear and so fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I said this was, oh, this was with the Cyclops Mini Series.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that I liked about the Cyclops Mini Series, or at least the first issue, was that the Revers like, ooh, I hate those X-Men, and that's their motivation.
[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that Fenris, like you're saying, are like, we're white supremacist mutants, period.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's like, that's nice, simple, like, I don't understand that the expert are like, well, that sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's big.
[SPEAKER_02]: You up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That everything needs to be that simple, but I think X-Men in general is stronger there.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you move it a guy like Red Cabado, who I barely remember to be honest with you, and he's like, I run one,
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like I still don't know what one does exactly we're starting to get back into that vague territory of what is everybody's motivation here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are we doing this so I don't know that's rubber I will say I'm sure you didn't like the back up story because you don't like evil beast, but I thought the art
[SPEAKER_01]: the painted art in here was really gorgeous so painted art was awesome yeah and it's just like the reveal of like what's beast has been so fucked up he's been doing so many things in the shadows you're like oh yeah what's the evil reveal evil beast it's like well but we already do we the reader already do this evil beast so I like the idea that our good beast is like
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm not going to waste any time here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk to myself and get this done.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that potentially puts him in a bad situation because he's eventually going to become him, or puts our heroes in a good situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, I actually am very interested in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see where that goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want, I don't like when Beast is evil.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to see the story or I could have him turning evil.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, too late.
[SPEAKER_02]: Carmen Red Club, belly of the beast, temperature from Dark Horse, comics, written by Mike Miguel that and Ray Allen, art by Ray Allen.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a supernatural Western featuring the creepiest baby ever put to the comic book page.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that baby, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a creep as it's like a creepy baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Creepy baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he said.
[SPEAKER_00]: Creepy baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm sorry, you go ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was just going to say creepy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe a couple more times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Please.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the art.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love the characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: The this main character.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's such a badass.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that exit that she makes here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just like killing monsters.
[SPEAKER_01]: This walks out like gentleman does the old, you know, nod of the cap there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just hilarious, great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also love the beat
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that a talking lizard?
[SPEAKER_01]: Just fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just fun badass kind of cool moments great art Yeah, this is a whole vibe and I feel like they nailed it
[SPEAKER_02]: and last but not least side dimensional rivals number two from marveled by peach mimoko a sad release and Natasha boostos we are following the old timey version of siloque that peach mimoko created as she is tumbling through the multiverse each time she falls there depicted by a new artist writer combo
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's trying to track down, I don't think they're calling them infinity stones, but they're infinity stones.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is another tie-in, sort of, to Marvel rivals, if you could believe it, but man, the art is gorgeous in this, and I also really enjoy all the dimensions that we fall into this issue, particularly the Natasha Boostos, sort of like teen Marvel universe thing is very fun, and I would love to see more of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah i mean great use of like changing dimensions for changing artists is just such a cool well executed idea um yeah i mean worth it for the art alone the picturesque art is just so beautiful yeah amazing colors just really really enjoyable storytelling and art um yeah i could stay in this world for a very long time it's quite nice
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[SPEAKER_03]: They sit on crappy couches and they let us see what we can And he's just nothing, they're like a special guest speaker To wrap your brain, hammer, don't relay, or a hell fair