[SPEAKER_04]: There's certain times when we're doing this old program that real life actually conflicts with some of our guests.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been talking about this for the last, I don't know, three or four weeks on this show, regarding the Epstein drop, who's in it, who's not in it, he's Elon Musk, Reed Hoffman,
[SPEAKER_04]: blah, blah, blah, blah, it's endless tap bros that are there to this morning bob if you want to put this picture up there.
[SPEAKER_04]: It looks like there was a meeting of the mines with Epstein back in 2018, including Mark Zuckerberg who was currently testifying today in a suit against Facebook that could potentially change
[SPEAKER_04]: the face of social media.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys wrote a book, Patrick Wood, and Courtney Turner called the final betrayal, a cautionary tale, how technology destroyed America certainly feels like it obviously with AI and everything that's going on here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Technocracy's using.
[SPEAKER_04]: A technocracy killed America, but let's face it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is technology.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the end of the day, except we've allowed this to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the weapon of choice at this point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, how is this weaponized against this, unless it's our own government?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, technology has been around for what hundreds of years at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, advancing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the people that have taken over the trajectory of technology, they have an evil heart to put it this way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're using it to dominate mankind in the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we see this in our country right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of these tech oligarchs that have risen up, they're all billionaires.
[SPEAKER_03]: Elon Musk is probably going to be the first Trillionaire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, we see this on odd group of people, especially, I mean, just think of all the tech bros, I counted at least eight or nine that are billionaires, and some, you know, the rest of them are like just a few hundred billion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The poppers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the poor, the poor, the poor, as if you will.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, when you see a picture like this and you have the meaning of the minds here, it's hard to think that's in some way, shape or form that these guys aren't all working together.
[SPEAKER_03]: You would think that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we've done a lot of talk about the Epstein files along the way, and there's two sides of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, the sex part, that's what everybody wants to talk about,
[SPEAKER_03]: But these people probably are not talking about that at this point, because Epstein was involved and from the very beginning in this technocratic takeover, if you will, a Washington D.C.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was there when Crypto got started.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was there when social media got started.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's been a player, a strategic player along the way, and all of these people are involved with him from the get-go.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, they probably got in some extracurricular activities as well, but, you know, this is where the angle that we're looking at right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: This whole, unholy Trinity, if you will, of these players, getting together like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is really disturbing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is, and Dan, I'll ask you this because the sex part is the easiest part to understand from me.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have a bunch of dorky guys who grew up locked in a basement or a garage.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've all seen the photo of Jeff Bezos starting Amazon.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that is not the same Bezos we know now.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'll jacked up and ready to rock out of hot wife and everything else.
[SPEAKER_04]: The sex parts to lure these guys in is easy, but it's the information that they have.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is the most dangerous.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think the sex part is necessary to lure people in, who by the way.
[SPEAKER_06]: So one of the reasons that capital investment is taking such a turn into AI right now is because...
[SPEAKER_06]: The multiplier on a standard CPG company is somewhere between some percentage of EBITDA and let's say 3.5% of revenue, right, a multiplier on a sale.
[SPEAKER_06]: For certain industries, it's more.
[SPEAKER_06]: and the booze industry at somewhere between six and a half and ten and a half because for whatever fucking reason right because there's so much some of your if well if you're in that industry you understand that the supply chain is important and having all the because it's a cartel in every single state you have to do all these deals you're selling infrastructure to somebody not just a product so it makes sense
[SPEAKER_06]: with tech, it's 100 or 1,000 x, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's why a lot of money is being spent there.
[SPEAKER_06]: The money that Epstein was able to marshal and money that isn't necessarily accounted for is way more attractive to even dorky dumb-dumbs like this than any kind of sex stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: The sex stuff is...
[SPEAKER_06]: shocking and attractive from like a true crime perspective, but it's the least of what's going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: The thing that's the thing that's most going on is the relationship that that's obscene had with the CIA back in the 1970s and 80s, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Particularly is the finance here for AdNock and Shogi.
[SPEAKER_06]: And by the way, I'll mention this again for anybody that hasn't heard it because Shogi was the primary weapon strafiger during the Iran-Contra scandal.
[SPEAKER_06]: And in a number of other US-led operations after that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Epstein was a direct employee this year for 40 fucking years ago, and they've pretended like they don't know who the guy is, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's, you know that that there's smoke and then there's dark black smoke where you know there's a fire, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And we know there's a fire there.
[SPEAKER_06]: All this stuff about the sex stuff or who might have been involved in whatever, to be honest, I mean, certainly if people were doing illegal predatory stuff, they should be outed and prosecuted where possible.
[SPEAKER_06]: The main narrative of this has turned into it's a pedophile death cult or something or drinking babies blood.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's all fucking retarded nonsense.
[SPEAKER_06]: The real story here is how this dude is marshalling power and resources, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: It isn't too excuse in the other behavior which prosecute all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the real story is how the resources and power being marshalled to put human beings on a trajectory that isn't going in a way that we probably wanted to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's be real about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, I mean, there's like the fear of robots doing this or doing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: The much bigger problem, especially in the short term, is taking away the incentive structures that make human beings human beings.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have biological feedback markers that make purpose and doing stuff with our hands and labor and all this stuff really matter to us.
[SPEAKER_06]: It matters to us and you see what happens.
[SPEAKER_06]: with second or third generation wealth and what it does to those people, not having to struggle through life, it fucks them up permanently.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it fucks their kids up even worse and it just keeps getting worse and worse until the whole family breaks apart like the Vanderbilt's dead.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it was a coup as the last one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: So, this is the real fucking danger and you can read about it and this pamphlet right here.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you look up and down this tech-lock receives vision, you're basically reading a postmodernist playbook.
[SPEAKER_06]: right, they're trying to use the administrative state through technology to take over people's fucking brains and move representative government off to the side and put this system in control, whether it's CBDC or voting machines or whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's all about reducing the footprint of the individual's relationship to government.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Patrick,
[SPEAKER_04]: We've got you started into exploring this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where did you go to school?
[SPEAKER_04]: How'd you grow up?
[SPEAKER_04]: What were all those fun things?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I mean, I hate to say it's Doomsday, but it's kind of Doomsday here.
[SPEAKER_04]: What made you actually want to do this and get involved in it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who knows?
[SPEAKER_03]: I still, I look at my life today.
[SPEAKER_03]: How did I get here?
[SPEAKER_03]: But I tell you what, in 1976 or 1977, I ran into a scholar.
[SPEAKER_03]: who worked formally for Stanford University.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was a researcher, famous author, actually, at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: He got kicked out of Stanford, and I met him quite accidentally at a conference in New Orleans.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we struck up a relationship because I was studying this group called the trial out of commission back in the 70s and he was too.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what got kicked out of Stanford in the first place.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was researching this organization.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we teamed up together to write two books eventually.
[SPEAKER_03]: One trial out of us over Washington and then volume two after that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then for several years after that, life went on for me and him as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, did it gain any traction, sorry to cut you off, did it gain any traction?
[SPEAKER_04]: And did the government come to and visit you guys and say, what you're writing is dangerous?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or actually, we had quite a bit of traction.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had at least 75 books, a thousand books sold by two years in.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then one day we got blacklisted by Beatleton Bookseller that was my main bookstores.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Big time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they sent out a memo to all of their stores saying the publisher was out of business and the book was out of print.
[SPEAKER_03]: and none of, none of it was not true, and flat out, but I was a publisher and the book is still in print.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that basically killed art is our book sales at that point, but you know, bankrupt it is at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and online didn't exist.
[SPEAKER_03]: Amazon, you know, that's exactly it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every time I'm going to back base those, it was a beat-off book song.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to our book song.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, now 94% of sales are coming from Amazon.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I came to discover technology, historic technology, I was shocked to realize it was the only economic system that has been developed from scratch, other than free market economics and capitalism, and the derivatives of that,
[SPEAKER_03]: And it harkened back to our studies with the trial out of commission because they said in the beginning when they formed the organization in 1973 they said we're going to create a new and national economic order new new new came up all the time well what is a new economic order doesn't make any sense now it makes sense to me all of a sudden when I just discovered historic technology that had to be the quiet that the the
[SPEAKER_03]: The big bingo, if you were for me, and when this is a big number of presents, you might know who he is.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the fourth actually, you might know his daughter, Amika, she's on the TV all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when Brazinski came to David Rockefeller, with his book that was written at Columbia University, where technology was invented the first place, they formed a partnership to take the ideology of technology and rebrand it as their new international economic system.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what year was this?
[SPEAKER_03]: This was 1973.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is...
[SPEAKER_03]: They were already getting prepared for what was about to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And his book was unmistakable.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was talking about technology.
[SPEAKER_03]: He changed the names a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: He used the word technatronic instead of technocratic.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was basically warmed over technology from the 1930s.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so after when I, when I first discovered historic technology, I, that sent me on a trajectory to find out what, what is this stuff, you know, whoa, I had to do some original research or wasn't much on it until I discovered the archives.
[SPEAKER_03]: of the technocracy movement in Canada of all places.
[SPEAKER_03]: White Canada.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they were big in Canada.
[SPEAKER_03]: The movement, the technocracy movement, was really huge in Canada and in America as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in Canada, they had gosh, hundreds of thousands of members across the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: And interestingly, that whole movement in Canada was headed by a guy named Dr. Joshua Halldemon just happens to be Elon Musk's grandfather.
[SPEAKER_03]: really.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You get it right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when they kicked him out, he rose the ranks of a movement called the Social Credit Party.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the social credit party and Canada in Canada.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know what's all Canada's doing great now So make sense, but I'm kidding But as this goes along when what year does this actually really start to pick up when things start to get Dangerous that you're like all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes red flags are popping up for me and Yes, we need to take this a little bit more seriously.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely that it was probably around 2009
[SPEAKER_03]: 2008, 2009 when I really got alarmed, and from there every year I got more alarmed and still we're here we are now, writing this book, Courtney came along in my life to help me off to this book in the first place, but this is my fourth book on technocracy at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've had other three books before this, the hard road to world order was one, the
[SPEAKER_03]: He technocracy rising, my first book, that was kind of the seminal book in the first place.
[SPEAKER_03]: But technocracy rising, then hard road, and then the evil twins of technocracy and transhumanism.
[SPEAKER_03]: Transhumanism is another subject that does tales into technocracy.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's another issue we might not talk about that right now, but so this is my first book on technocracy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more alarmed today than ever before.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, you were never chatting before in the lobby, and AI is obviously picking up the, it's, in a alarming rate right now, and it's moving very, very quickly, however, this started, let's, let's take your year of, of 2009, social media and then the rise of social media.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think YouTube was created in 2006, Facebook, Dan, which I think, 2003?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but I don't, I think it was 2005 when it was open to the public, not just college students.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: You had to have an EDU address to sign up originally.
[SPEAKER_04]: Gosh, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it still wasn't, you know, all this was kind of in its infancy stages.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, Instagram was, I think, seven or eight.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then in 2009,
[SPEAKER_04]: What were you noticing online and what were the changes and people's behavior that you were noticing matched up with some of your writings?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, probably I didn't notice, I wasn't a student of public behavior at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more so now because I see people dropping into psychotic conditions from AI and social media.
[SPEAKER_03]: Back then, I don't know if I really was aware
[SPEAKER_03]: obviously looking backwards we can see that it was the fabric of society was began to rip apart.
[SPEAKER_04]: But because of social media, it's not tech pros and things like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's been lots of books and documentaries done since then to look back.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was a day things really got weird in society.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think
[SPEAKER_03]: What I was looking back there at that point was just what the technocrats were doing themselves within the government and outside of the government, the companies that were they had formed.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was my expert field, if you will.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when I got hot and heavy, probably by 2015, at that point, then I started to be aware of what was going on in society itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was a separate issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: from the tech pros themselves, but they were causing this.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were the people that were causing this in the first place.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they didn't give a rip about how the public was taking this, how it was breaking relationships, how it was breaking family's apart, stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they still don't care.
[SPEAKER_04]: But was it not to get rich or was this a part of a bigger, overall goal?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because that's what I can't figure out, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The much bigger goal in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_04]: you think so, you think so as well?
[SPEAKER_04]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, Dan, what about you?
[SPEAKER_06]: A handling's a razor.
[SPEAKER_06]: In competence, over malice is probably the answer there.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it depends on what you mean.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I think these people who are large tech people, let's just take Elon for example.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't call him a good guy because look at the way treats his children or I guess better stated Doesn't really know the fuck they are or where they are.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's 11 of them and they could be anywhere on the planet right now How he treats his baby mama?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, I mean that one of them one of them had a comment I think yeah, yeah, yeah, there's you can tell a lot about a man the way treats his family, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't think he's a good dude
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure he's evil, I think he's got some dumb ass social neck and eye with theories for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the idea, right now he's telling people not to save for the future, he's telling them that they're not going to have to work in the future, this is nonsense.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's something about the...
[SPEAKER_06]: the progression of Western civilization from Aristotle recognizing the idea of natural law to Senacus coming up with the idea of logos, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like there's there is an affirmative natural law that exists.
[SPEAKER_06]: We cannot ignore it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It took us,
[SPEAKER_06]: Another 1,200 years after that, they get the Magna Carta to have a king submit to that theory and then it took another 400-some years after that to get the U.S. Constitution, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's current form.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the Magna Carta is really natural law.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would push back on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say the Declaration of Independence is absolutely, and it's absolutely predicated on Aristotelium realist metaphysics.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so is the Magna Carta.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's the point being made is that for the first time in human history, a king had to admit even though he didn't want to and he would neck down it later, that he was subject to the same laws everybody else, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And that puts law above any status or station.
[SPEAKER_06]: It took us 2,000 years to come to this, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: This is a long drawn out process.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the guy who's in the tech field should understand,
[SPEAKER_06]: The rigor that it takes to especially in social spheres because he's doing it with AI He's trying to train an AI model right now, and he's there.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not going well Yes, yeah, they keep trying to say it's going well.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not going well And not just in the way that the evil stuff or whatever problematic stuff that people think AI's dumb After about seven commands, it loses focus and there's about a 50-50 chance after that That it actually answers the question you've asked it without
[SPEAKER_06]: interpreting all the way back to the second or third answer it gave.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a huge problem, it's on every AI model, it's very dumb right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: And anyway, a programmer, somebody that is involved in this field should understand this, that it takes a very long time to fair it out ideas and it's turned them to actual policy, which is what America is.
[SPEAKER_06]: We are the culmination of Western civilization in philosophy.
[SPEAKER_06]: And one of the things about that is what Madison said, we have to recognize humanity for what it is, human nature for what it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Men are not angels if they wear we wouldn't need government, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: We do need government because men are assholes a lot of the time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Unless you give them left and right limits, and one of those things is purpose.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you take labor away from people and just give them shit, it will be the fucking thunder dome.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't care what utopian society you think you're going to build.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't think Elon is a bad dude.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he's fucking stupid when it comes to people, which makes sense because he's autistic as shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like he has no understanding of how human relations are supposed to work, obviously, based on the way he lives his life.
[SPEAKER_06]: So whether there's some...
[SPEAKER_06]: I do think there are people who are, who fund these sort of things, dudes that are not tech people that have, that they want to capture global control, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's unquestionable.
[SPEAKER_06]: You could see that over the last, let's say, since Eisenhower's president, that's what it started, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's been going on for a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's been going out.
[SPEAKER_00]: for a lot longer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, in America, people were trying to do stuff in the U.S. and it wasn't really working out.
[SPEAKER_06]: But after he died in 1950s, like what one session later fucking JFK gets clipped for trying to go against that system, and it's been downhill from there.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's where we are now.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are certainly people on the periphery, I think, that are engaged in a plan to control people.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know that people like Musk and Zuckerberg know that that's what's going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're probably useful idiots in it, and to your point, yeah, they want to get it fucking rich, but they also want to be important.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's another thing, the people, you mentioned that sexting before.
[SPEAKER_06]: They grew up as an unimportant nerd, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: They probably got bullied.
[SPEAKER_06]: probably got ignored a lot by women, by everybody though, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And they saw everybody this table.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they saw other dudes getting having success in areas that they weren't able to and now the tables have turned, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's not just about the money, it's about the power as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that will lead you into dealing with people like this, the fucking sorrows and the read Hoffman's and the fucking all these other assholes that fund this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: You will fall into bed with them because they sell you that thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: They sell you the potential for power.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, but did they know at the beginning that social media was going to be this addictive and change?
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course human being you got it you got it you got to read.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got to read Yeah, however, sir.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got it you got to read the master switch.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know I've mentioned it a million times on the show by Tim will the way that
[SPEAKER_06]: The way that governments historically, and he could probably talk to great extent about this, the way governments have historically weaponized technology to control people.
[SPEAKER_06]: No matter what the new technology was, if it's a manufacturing thing, they use it to control the fucking economics.
[SPEAKER_06]: If it's a communication modality, they use it to control elections and messaging, ever, forever.
[SPEAKER_06]: This has always been the case.
[SPEAKER_00]: For a journal, Littica.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's always been the case since the beginning of language.
[SPEAKER_06]: I guess what was it that Russ Cole said when some guy told some other guy, I want your share, that's when it started, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: Whenever we were able to form complex thought, it's always been like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they fucking know, 100% they know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, here's the weird part.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll go back to what you said about Hamlet's Razer is Patrick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I was involved in the early days of YouTube.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a buddy mine's production company that was trying to get up and go in and he said, hey, man, he knew I was up for SNL at the time and he goes, hey, it'd be awesome if you could shoot one of your sketches and then we could put it up on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, there's this thing in it, and it's called viral.
[SPEAKER_04]: It might go viral.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is like an O6, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: When YouTube was kind of first starting.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was in a hurry that day, and I go, look, I can pop in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can write this sketch real quick.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can shoot it, whatever happens happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: exploded, there used to be a homepage for YouTube where they had sketches on the homepage for seven days and they got 850,000 views, which at the time was like a record, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I went to a movie that night, somebody I was dating two days later after it had popped off.
[SPEAKER_04]: two people were sitting next to me and I had two big films out in theaters and they were like you're that dude from YouTube right and I was like oh shit well then immediately that was on Friday night on Monday nights I was sorry Monday morning I got a call from another company that was starting that did this catches and said hey man
[SPEAKER_04]: You can make one of those videos again.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll give you $10,000 for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, shit, for doing this.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, that took me less than an hour.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I could probably do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it happened again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you can see.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can again.
[SPEAKER_04]: And again.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can see where the opportunity comes in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Historically.
[SPEAKER_06]: You would have had to have gone and sought out the intersection of the average person and whatever modality of communication, whether it's financial or information.
[SPEAKER_06]: You would have to go seek it out somewhere and insert yourself into it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now you can get on the ground, fucking level.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you've got resources like Epstein had or like any of these other assholes and investment and stuff has, not that everybody the investment tech is an asshole in the sand.
[SPEAKER_06]: You now have the opportunity to get in and shape the thing, to shape AI, to shape social media and the way that you want to produce the outcomes you want, and that is exactly what fucking happened.
[SPEAKER_06]: It has been designed to fuck people's brains, not just to...
[SPEAKER_06]: Not just to create chaos in their brains, but to implant ideas.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's inception, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what's happening.
[SPEAKER_06]: People believe things that are demonstrably untrue.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've done this study, actually Douglas Murray quoted one, and one of his books not too long ago.
[SPEAKER_06]: The average, so there's three levels of this, a center-left person thinks that a hundred black, on-arm black people are killed by police a year.
[SPEAKER_06]: A solid Democrat thinks it's a thousand, a progressive thinks it's 10,000, the answer is nine.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that information has been programmed into people's brains through repetition and all the other ways that people have historically done it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But now instead of having to go out and seize the means of doing this, you can get in as a silent partner on the ground level and control that process from soup to nuts.
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got the whole thing right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, anybody that's involved in this stuff behind the scenes, that's who I want to look at.
[SPEAKER_06]: Elon and Zuckerberg are just trying to feel important and make money.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think these people that fund them, the people that host these meetings, that's the guy I want to talk to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because he's trying to create this technocratic fucking world.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's an administrative state over the entire globe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but Patrick, the reason I brought up that story here is I'm guilty of it, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm, it's hand up on this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I took the fucking money.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did the thing, like, for these people and, uh, got,
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure some of them rich and in everything else got their company's notice and all their other stuff so aren't Weed as citizens who also make the content feed into the shit every single day reply to the people aren't we just as guilty as them?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, and then you guilty of eating corn syrup
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean, but he's like, I have the choice, I have the choice, but we didn't know we didn't know, we didn't know, I don't think a lot of this conversation has been about like judgment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is a guilty or not guilty.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't look at it that way as much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look at it more as what is advancing this agenda.
[SPEAKER_00]: So are there a lot of innocent people who are helping to build and ferment this technocratic system?
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're all evil, maniacal, people who are trying to control the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they're all necessarily guilty.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you didn't think you were necessarily abetting some evil plan when you said, yes, you'll make it.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, but I, you know, I did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a lot of, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Kegbroos who aren't necessarily Elon or Zuckerberg, but you know, they're everyday people who are a lot of them actually in the quote unquote freedom space who are building You know what they considered to be parallel system.
[SPEAKER_06]: You mean Palantir just say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just say Palantir Like you know what I'm saying is non-Palantir.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not talking about Palantir.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not talking about local I'm not talking about like every day technologists who are
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're independent and they think they're building freedom technology.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them are actually helping to create what eventually will be part of these smart villages, which will be nodes on the technical level.
[SPEAKER_06]: But they're not evil people, they're doing good.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't have to name anybody's name or anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Give me the example of somebody who thinks they're doing the right thing, but it's the wrong thing and tell me why it's the wrong thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, again, example would be like a lot of these people who are involved in building network state communities.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so are you familiar with the concept of network state?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but they ought to understand, so to say, yeah, you got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Belogiation of Austin and just to clarify, in his actual book, he even says that with a lot of people think decentralized, decentralized means that it's great, it means that it can't be controlled.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, it's not coordinated, but he says in his own book that it's decentralized towards a decentralized center.
[SPEAKER_00]: He explicitly says that, and there are a lot of people in the, you know, what I call the quote unquote freedom community who are actively building these network states, and they think that they're building parallel systems, they think that they're building a freedom zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Trump calls in freedom cities, and there's a lot of people are hearing these kinds of narratives.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they're very excited about it and they think they're doing good for humanity and they think that they're disrupting this technocratic agenda.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in fact, they're actually helping to embed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're helping to create what will be what they the vision of the they, you know, we'll just say that for now, consider to be a world brain, the noisphoric world brain.
[SPEAKER_00]: that will be like Teslas, you know, wireless or a rain that he printed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there are a lot of people who are actively building these communities.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they're evil people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they truly think that they're disrupting this system.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're actually hoping to build, they call them smart villages.
[SPEAKER_00]: The smart villages are what they think will be the nodes that will be interconnected.
[SPEAKER_00]: A great example of this just to make it a concrete for people is that the AI world society.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Centennial Vision of the UN.
[SPEAKER_00]: They talk about how in 2045, there will be an artificial intelligence world society.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they say that there will be nodes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They actually say Ukraine will be the central hub for all of these nodes that will connect to each other, under what they call C40 cities.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's really no different.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, C40's just one type of smart city, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: A smart city or a 15-minute city.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are lots of different iterations of the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's where you have this complete controlled through technology, infrastructure that is a just a one smart village as part of this bigger cybernetic organism, which is what they're trying to create.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's some going on in America, isn't one being funded up in California right now?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they've got, I forget how many people are in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so in Greenland called Praxis.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Trump's already called it a Freedom City.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, and they call it Praxis.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is in the... Oh, Praxis.
[SPEAKER_06]: God, that's so orwellian.
[SPEAKER_06]: What the fuck?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what they're saying.
[SPEAKER_04]: And at least this is what their pitch is.
[SPEAKER_04]: In case the audience at home hasn't heard about it, is their pitch is, you know, it's like-minded people who are moving out into the middle of nowhere, creating their own city, creating their own towns.
[SPEAKER_04]: their own theaters, their own movies, their own grocery stores, where you live off the land, everybody has a trade of some sorts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some of them are off the grid, where they don't want any technology.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some of them want all the technology to be green and kind of live there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I still
[SPEAKER_04]: on a bigger scale, especially if something ad happens or a natural disaster happens, then what?
[SPEAKER_06]: Your freedom city can't report to FEMA or the government, that's the problem that the system intends to create.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you're a globalist, you intend to create problems that can only be solved by a global government, if you're a marketing company, you articulate a problem that only your product
[SPEAKER_04]: But my, my biggest worry about any of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: is where the religion aspect comes into it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because that's after on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you did.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you really get it?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we're going to have a central bank digital religion.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's an AI Jesus or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, an AI Jesus.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, let's take Islam.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Islam is spreading the fastest.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think throughout the world right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I'm not mistaken in Bob, you can fact check me on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, great.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what happens when you introduce a religion into this, and then maybe they take over one of these smart cities.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they take over one of these villages.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they take over an entire country.
[SPEAKER_04]: That had never been introduced to it before, and now you're forced into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're sort of doing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to let Patrick take the lead on that with FinTech.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, I'm wondering about the the city and Texas Where's it located that the epic yeah the epic city is yeah, I see yeah, they're kind of shutting that down kind of really well So the politicians are saying they are saying all the right things By the way, the early voting's out now and I would highly suggest it in Texas go vote, but They're saying all the right things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're gonna get rid of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna get rid of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so there
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're still there.
[SPEAKER_03]: This kind of the same thing, a city that's isolated as a wall around it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have shrill all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So.
[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of candidates were running right now because early voting just started yesterday here, or running off of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm seeing these commercials every single night.
[SPEAKER_04]: And candidates are actually saying, we're going to stop these cities with Sharia law and things like this.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're, I'm sitting there on the couch going,
[SPEAKER_04]: Shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Does this exist right now?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there a city in Texas that has fucking Sharia law currently there is Sharia courts area?
[SPEAKER_04]: Why are we doing nothing about any of this?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the J-Dam would be nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: No shits, but why is our own wheelchair?
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's take a government of wheelchair here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is he not doing anything about this whatsoever?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, these people are, we do not send our best and brightest to government.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's be real about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think these people understand the constitution, much less what a constitutional remedy to something like that might be, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I sincerely don't think they understand.
[SPEAKER_06]: The groundwork.
[SPEAKER_06]: They certainly don't understand.
[SPEAKER_06]: They use the phrase globalism as a plateau, but they don't know what the fuck that means either.
[SPEAKER_06]: They certainly don't know what technocracy means.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you're a politician, say that, it's because one of his staff or saw it on the internet and put it in his talking points.
[SPEAKER_06]: None of them understand what that means.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't really understand what globalism is.
[SPEAKER_06]: The new international economic order, which comes from the Tri-Lateral Commission, is all about globalism.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's about
[SPEAKER_06]: like the state being a control of all natural resources, for example, which is true in some places.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's true in a lot in the eastern places, it's true in Venezuela, it's true in northern Europe a lot, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Where they have big sovereign wealth funds, commodity, they call it, there's this phrase called commodity price stabilization, which means price controls, basically, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: It means price controls, but on a global level, it's
[SPEAKER_06]: Diocletian tried this in the fucking 4th century and it failed and everybody's sense has failed at it price controls are stupid markets are smart Okay, like the it but it's this problem that you're describing is downstream putting a
[SPEAKER_06]: putting inserting an on-clave of a culture that is incompatible with the host nation's culture is designed to create global order.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is why they do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the only reason to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: reaction solution.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what happens then?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, and I don't think people are prepared for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's that's where I'm going with all this.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, well, you're slowly seeing it take over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody's kind of just saying, I know it's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, this is fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't want to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: We want to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then all of a sudden, it'll be too late.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's there's an aspect.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, of the modern technology experience or whatever
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a chapter on in our book called The Rise of State Religion.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is expedient for the tech pros who I don't think care what about any religion.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the 30s and 40s and 50s said they all said we're just atheists.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have any religion at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't fly with me, but that's what they said.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we see first in AI where AI is creating religions on his own, and we have a concept of AI God now, and RoboFedism, that's one of the sex that's developing based on AI is absolutely insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you have on the other side, on the other side.
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of a flavor of Christianity sort of with this movement that they think they're going to rebuild the world somehow.
[SPEAKER_03]: in Christ's name, so he can return.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're some doubt in the future, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: So this movement has just picked up so much steam this last year, especially, where Christians are falling into this camp now.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, oh, we're gonna reform the world, we're gonna have a huge revival and we're going to take over the world for whatever reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this plays into the technocrat scheme.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because these people are useless for any good thing after that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they're just lost.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they never see the picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: So state religion is kind of growing around us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when you see people like Peter Teele, for instance, just recently he gave us a series of lectures and San Francisco.
[SPEAKER_03]: called the Antichrist.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's talking about the Antichrist work.
[SPEAKER_03]: How could this confuse anybody?
[SPEAKER_03]: Talking about the Antichrist.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in his mind, he says, well, with the Antichrist is that's the entity that wants to deregulate
[SPEAKER_03]: or wants to re-regulate AI, and so- Constraints on AI, that's the Antichrist.
[SPEAKER_06]: So crazy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's an odd thing to say.
[SPEAKER_06]: Especially when those guys have been lobbying hard to stop state governments for being able to regulate exactly what they see, for example, which is, you know, I mean, if, again, the 10th Amendment exists, I don't think anything more, these would be said about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now these people that are,
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if they recognize that the promoting state religion, but this is one of the most misunderstood things about the 20th century.
[SPEAKER_06]: There is this idea that atheism led to a hundred million deaths in the 20th century.
[SPEAKER_06]: State religions led to a hundred million deaths in the 20th century.
[SPEAKER_06]: There was nothing earreligious about communist China under Mao and certainly not under Stalin.
[SPEAKER_06]: You worship the state, or you died, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's how it worked.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is the alien.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is, yeah, the stakes are quite a bit lower now in the short term, but we're surrendering our autonomy.
[SPEAKER_06]: When does that ever gone well?
[SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't make any sense, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, again, these people, whether they're nefarious actors or not, clearly are not in any kind of position to give anybody advice on how to handle their day-to-day lives.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, because they don't understand sociology, they don't understand human psychology, and they damn sure don't understand economic theories Because none of this shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: We all the stuff has been tried before and some form another and it has failed every fucking time Oh, we'll get it right this time boys because I'm Peter Teele.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think so, bud Yeah, and again the people here sitting in this table
[SPEAKER_04]: because they're so dorky and they have lived their lives like this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they understand the human psychology of it of what they were really getting into and how it can affect you and I mean, it is happening every single day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I let let's take the Olympics last night.
[SPEAKER_04]: That girl's meltdown at the Olympics was social media.
[SPEAKER_04]: She got on, she was one of those people who came out spoke out against America and
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, did the whole checklist of I'm doing this for LGBTQ, my, you know, somebody did, somebody did Bingo.
[SPEAKER_06]: They did, and we posted, actually, it's the PUSA.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was at TGA.
[SPEAKER_04]: It all, they all, all the keywords that are online, she had every single thing, and then she goes in to last night's events.
[SPEAKER_04]: Way to the world is now on her.
[SPEAKER_04]: She turned off her comments on her things, you know, because social media pressure had gotten to her, and she thought she was doing this great thing, was favored for gold.
[SPEAKER_04]: All she had to do was as one thing, and she just completely fucking shattered.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she said, I have no explanation for what just happened there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Other than the pressure and everything else, well, it's like, well, you created your own pressure.
[SPEAKER_04]: By getting into this this way, you thought it was going to swing the other way on social media.
[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't go your way on social media.
[SPEAKER_04]: The backlash was there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now the pressure of this one event that you're working toward for four years of your life, and you've one night to pull off.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was ruined because you wanted this one thing on social media, it seemed like versus your actual job that you were preparing yourself to do for four years and I don't know what's going to happen with this person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I've ever seen a person breakdown like that on national television.
[SPEAKER_04]: and cry that hard and sit there and then go through all the emotions of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But this is happening on a day-to-day basis, not just the Olympics.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is happening with police and schools and kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I saw a 13-year-old girl who killed herself the other day because she was getting bullied on social media.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that any of these guys had this intention going in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think unless you guys have another... Well, I mean, what did Oppenheimer say?
[SPEAKER_06]: He quoted Aussie Mandeus, but ironically, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, he, I've become death destroyer worlds.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it was afterwards, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: He still did it.
[SPEAKER_06]: He still did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that these guys have, like, the vision of destroying humanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they genuinely think that this is a better vision for humanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them are actually post-humanists.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't know how to beat people, so they think everybody else doesn't know how to be a person.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we've got to solve that problem that exists, only for you fucking nerds.
[SPEAKER_06]: The rest of us are going to be fine, God, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things we go into quite a bit of detail, there's chapter on it, is this philosophy called the Dark and Lightment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the dark and lightment is a very much kind of a pillar behind a lot of the tech brews today.
[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely on the quote unquote right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I put it in air quotes and just because you know, tech and crests don't have any political allegiance.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're operating through whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: whatever makes them money well and whatever's expedient you know wherever they think they can advance their agenda so right now the right is empowers so they're operating through the right but I mean history yeah on his voted democrat we were at the inauguration and we got to see all these guys there
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, the switch in four years, which is so fast, you know, hey, we're going to shut you down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, you can't talk about COVID.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't talk about mask.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to delete yours.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're YouTube, your Facebook, all that other stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Trump gets in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, how are you, man?
[SPEAKER_04]: Good to see you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they start paying them out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Little by, each and every one of these companies, every single person of this thing, Twitter, pay them out, Facebook, pay them out.
[SPEAKER_04]: All of them paid him out's Trump and said, I'm sorry, yes, we did all these things.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we're good, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a deal, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're shaking hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the dark enlightenment is a philosophy that it was actually coined by Nick Land, but Nick Land in his manifesto in 2012, that was called the dark enlightenment, it was mostly a footnote to Curtis Seravan.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Nick Land, even more than Curtis Yarvan, although we have a quote in here, you know, Curtis Yarvan says that the most humane alternative to genocide is not to liquidate the words, but it's to virtualize them, essentially to put them in a virtual reality kind of a scenario.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that is very post-chuman, but Nick Land is a literally a post-chimist.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got a concept called hyperstition, you know, which is,
[SPEAKER_00]: Very sci-fi he believes you can take these sci-fi ideas He's inspired by people like Yvola and Lovecraft and he believes that you can manifest them into reality I had written an article comparing he got a term called homo autocadolidicus Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was so much of that's that that phased in college It was just homosexuality.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, no, no It was it was one night whatever
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not that at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is totally totally totally different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Homewater catalytic is actually a term that comes from biology.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's adopted this to technological systems in a post-human world.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's essentially saying that he believes that capitalism is this alien force.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like inhuman.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is doomed to reach an apocalyptic state that we should use technology to push it to its end degree, so we can get their faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the concept of acceleration in them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's thinking that when we get to that apocalyptic state, the humans are going to create essentially the code that creates these post-human entities that are going to take over.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I bring all of this up only to say that they really think that they're solving a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: That we have got this great problem of humanity.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, they're just not a world.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're just nihilists, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: They see it like, it is the pathological version of nihilism, where their entire world view is, they're high functioning, but their entire world view is still informed by this stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's very dangerous for somebody to think that way.
[SPEAKER_04]: But do you guys look at, let's take Nurlink, for example, some of those videos have popped up recently, and you're seeing quadriplegesics.
[SPEAKER_04]: who were sitting there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always how they sell it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thinking, oh, with the quads, you hate quadriplegics?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you do do, like that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm not gonna, it's not my job.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they always sell it as, like, it's gonna help the disabled.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, that always, and I get caught up in it when I watch that kid fucking right, I love you dad on the thing, you know, for the first time with his eyes that were like this, I was like, oh, he shoots.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, give me one of those chips in my brain, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to talk to my dead grandpa.
[SPEAKER_00]: how many people are signing up for the Chippewa are not and they're doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're selling it to them as they can be super human essentially.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see the ad on this super mall?
[SPEAKER_03]: I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: The one that had talked about the ring cameras.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I got me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All the little puppies and the kids, you hugged in their lost pet and all the stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the total siop to get people into accepting the surveillance network that could be created by all these ring devices in the first place.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we all have them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but I'm just saying, this sense of message, there's warm and fuzzy things at the end of this for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter what it does.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the same thing with going on with Elon's devices, when he sees people,
[SPEAKER_03]: the lame will walk and the blind will see is he says right well that's that's cute and it is necessary I'm I'm not against those people getting help but Elon have himself he's talking
[SPEAKER_03]: privately, maybe quietly, about spreading this to the whole race.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's most people.
[SPEAKER_06]: A lot of it is very messianic.
[SPEAKER_06]: So the technology itself, this is an important distinction because a lot of people that talk about technocracy and the dangers of AI,
[SPEAKER_06]: A lot of them want to just jettison all this stuff and that probably is not the right answer The right answer is to let everybody know what the fucking risk are and how to avoid them So we could use it appropriately and not get dominated by a bunch of assholes.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: Just like anything else.
[SPEAKER_06]: If somebody had explained nutrition to people in the 1950s When somebody showed up to their door with sugar and corn syrup They would have told to go fuck themselves and that would have been the end of it Yeah, but instead the government participated in a propaganda program
[SPEAKER_06]: because they needed to fucking subsidize corn, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what really happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the wild thing is, we're all going back.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, recently, and I'm not talking about this when we want to do ad reads.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's take lovebirds sitting here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we've got mossy chips and bandy chips, and all this food that's when we got a 3-Eto, like what's called it, 16-3 games.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only is it amazing, like in a taste better, but we're all shifting to this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we've made an effort on this show to try to shift back towards this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And RFK Juniors made an effort to strip all these things out of it
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, are we not starting to catch on a little bit?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a Trojan horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we do talk about Mahah, and a lot of people will debate whether Mahah was co-opted.
[SPEAKER_00]: I personally think it was a Trojan horse from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you've heard- For what, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: a four-transhumanism and four-the-checkment credit agenda.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, RFK Jr. has explicitly said that he mean an announcement that Maha is really Maba, and Maba is an acronym that says, make America biotech accelerate.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, right in the acronym is accelerate.
[SPEAKER_00]: which is the derivative of celery.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was their term.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Maba.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was their term.
[SPEAKER_03]: In writing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said that all Americans should be equipped with, sorry, a wearable.
[SPEAKER_00]: And why on earth would we all need to be equipped with a wearable, except maybe that there's the internet of wearables that tied to the internet of things that will be tied to the internet of bodies that will eventually be tied to.
[SPEAKER_00]: the internet of nano by a nano things.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is, he also, if you look at his history, he was a partner in a vantage point capital, which is, you know, the exoteric messaging and you could say that most of what they're involved in is quote unquote green energy type of technologies, but they have a lot of investments in things that are bio-digital convergence technologies.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's really, so yes, they throw you a bone because otherwise, I mean, maybe we get them bored.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they've done some great things and I think we should celebrate the wins.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all in favor for getting rid of seed oils and red lake 40 and, you know, the garbage that's in our food.
[SPEAKER_00]: But where this is going, we actually just didn't around table.
[SPEAKER_00]: the technocratic war on food.
[SPEAKER_00]: When they talk about where this is the food is going they're saying how nobody will eat meat.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just that it'll be like it'll be plant meat.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not talking about beyond meat or you know, that's how they're talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: That what they're talking about is literally lab grown.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're fermenting proteins.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's already companies, there's a company, one of the ones we showcase and it was just because I couldn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they didn't know, but the one I couldn't get past, and it was just because of the name and their promo video, it's called Perfect Day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And anybody who's familiar with Ireland, this perfect day, I'm like, wow, and that is what the video is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like this idyllic world.
[SPEAKER_00]: And indeed, this Perfect Day protein is mostly milk proteins.
[SPEAKER_00]: That, of course, they're not derived from cow, but not even from like Cashew or...
[SPEAKER_00]: almond, they're not plant milk either, it's literally lab grown, and it's already in a lot of very common foods, like a lot of like mixed ice cream uses it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is where they're going, where everything is going to be a simulacra, that's why I call it the, I talk called the technological immunization of the eschaton, because they really believe that they are going to be aggregated to godlike status, it's a, you know, form of self-pothiosis, where
[SPEAKER_00]: And they want to bring heaven on earth, but of course, you know, they don't get to bring heaven on earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they want to make a simulacra where everything is term, terraformed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now that I'll give you it because when I watched that Bill Gates thing on 60 minutes, that's exactly what I thought.
[SPEAKER_04]: What I was just like, you want to control people's lives, via food, and then what does it mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: But that's not a direct line, the, the, the, the,
[SPEAKER_06]: The story they tell themselves is food to people is an unsolvable problem, so I must solve it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the only way I can do that then is with control.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the same as every other utopian ideology.
[SPEAKER_06]: Marxism is the same.
[SPEAKER_06]: It requires a hundred percent buy and otherwise it won't work.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you have to force people with a gun to fucking buy into it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's the only way these assholes are going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a wrongful thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he who controls the food controls the people.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, some of these people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Some of them for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but I don't think like RFK thinks that way although he was He was one of the first investors in Crips and Crips and Crips for that investment group She mentioned investing in CRISPR right out of the gate.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were almost once now.
[SPEAKER_06]: CRISPR has functionally Eliminated down syndrome in certain companies our countries rather, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's probably not a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can fix that shit and you to row.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's probably good, but like you're you're doing custom babies for people that can afford it now
[SPEAKER_04]: which is what I really think I don't want any agos anymore, dude, I'm for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I had to see one more ugly person, I'm gonna lose my ears.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really think the whole Epstein thing is really about the AI designer babies, but I want to address something that you're saying when you're talking about like CRISPR, if it could eradicate down syndrome, for instance.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, you know, I've a pretty complicated birth story.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was born with a lot of physical challenges.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wear bilateral hearing aids.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should learn how to speak by reading lips.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get hearing
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm blind to when I, I won't go through the laundry live.
[SPEAKER_00]: But people say things to me like, oh, well, you know, you were hearing me, so isn't that transhumanism?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a huge distinction that this goes back to the conversation about Elon with the neural link, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you can help some of these paralyzed, I, of course, think that's, that's, that's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's wonderful.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not making them transhuman, which is very dear friend for when they're talking about how you'll have the neural link.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've actually seen these videos,
[SPEAKER_00]: you have the neural link and so you know they'll give this long lecture about how we can have empathy but we can't really experience other people's feelings and you know we can't know what they're thinking but with these chiff they're literally talking about how we're going to have a hive mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a reason why Elon has patented telekinesis and it, you know, telepathy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think he's patting these things?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what they're trying to create.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is very different than helping someone around us.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's also like, the fundamental part about it is that it's not repairing or improving it's replacing.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So like, for example, you say, I know you're saying this in just but get rid of ugly people.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's something about social hierarchies that are really important to the development of human beings, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: You have some limiting factor in your life, no matter what it is, whether it's your class, whether it's your parents sucking, whether it's a country you grow up in, whether it's your ugly ass face.
[SPEAKER_06]: and you go through the process of overcoming that issue and it makes you who you are.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, the same thing with telekinesis, there is a hive mind already.
[SPEAKER_06]: All of our thoughts are electrical impulses and they're traveling through the air all the time.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is a demonstrable fact, and you can see it in the way that mobs behave.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've done quite a bit of research on that in college about the way mobs behave.
[SPEAKER_06]: There is something about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's something about that that's happening already.
[SPEAKER_06]: And what they want to do is replace that with an upgrade.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're not trying to take what you have and make it better.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're trying to bastardize what you have.
[SPEAKER_06]: And to something that could be controlled later on.
[SPEAKER_06]: You want to mean that's very different things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and also to eradicate free will.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, that's the end state, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, whether they want that to be the case or not, that's how it has to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it has to be, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's utopian.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you could get your eye back in your hearing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you get like a anirling chip inserted?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it would depend on what size, by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, cool, cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can still see me then.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I'm very attractive.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, man, if I just did a whole interview with you, and you didn't get to see me, that'd be weird.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you get off, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got that off.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but there's a big difference between regaining your eyesight and getting flushed out.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would need to know the implication.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like do you, would you, would you guys trust it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what I'm saying, so I'll have no other choice you might.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that or die, maybe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you can get your hearing in your sight back, they'll be pretty incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but there's something different about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I could get it, I mean, it'll be amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say my life wouldn't be a lot easier if I could see with two eyes and hear without hearing aids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: But having like restoring or getting vision and hearing is different then totally.
[SPEAKER_06]: becoming super cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you don't want to see the entire light spectrum because of some implant that's different.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're not.
[SPEAKER_06]: Our brains and bodies are not meant to absorb anything that we're not absorbing natural through our evolutionary process.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: We're having problems with unnatural light still.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Our circadian rhythm is fucked now because it's all the blue light.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, for like three million years, we didn't see any light after dark.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good aspect of what you're thinking about, what it means to be human, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: The metaphysical principles of humanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people don't understand it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've done a lot of research and shows on the history of our education system.
[SPEAKER_00]: And people say our education system is, we've taken religion out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would actually argue that that's not true.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would argue they've inverted, and it's still very religious.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, interestingly enough,
[SPEAKER_00]: declared secular humanism to be religion.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a very, very religion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually think that that's why the Aspen Institute changed our name.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was originally the Aspen Institute of secular humanism.
[SPEAKER_00]: They dropped that part.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that aside, what they did take out was metaphysics.
[SPEAKER_00]: And which is really, I think, tragic in this country because that is what the Declaration of Independence predicated
[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, our founding fathers did not make it explicit in the constitution because they thought that it was understood in that time and that milieu you had that shared understanding of metaphysics and understanding of what it meant to be human.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because we don't, people have this idea that, yeah, if you could have an enhancement, they don't even have a baseline of what it means to be human.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, why not have a chip that, you know, but isn't there a point of rebelling in against all of this?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, let's take the beginning of the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: I fucking hate my phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: I will go back to the story with YouTube and the sketches.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hate doing sketches and I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so many.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm burned out.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to do anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to have a phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's my dream is to have a flip phone and never have anything else.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was my phone that went off at the top of the show, so I got to put a dollar and Bob's bucket up there that never happens either for Christ's sakes, but still I hate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it was on some important call in the parking lot and blah, blah, blah, so is everybody else, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Isn't there a part to, because I at least have a plan where I'm just like, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the end of all of this, whenever I retire, check out, I'm getting one flip phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: 10, 15 numbers of friends, family, and that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I'm all done with the rest of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I'll check into the internet here and there, but I don't really give you this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the breaking point is remarkably similar from most people.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's that when you feel the thing, whatever it happens to be, extracting from you instead of delivering to you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, the problem is convincing somebody that that's what's happening because let the you mentioned teenage girls and suicide that was for most of human history The most resilient group against that particular activity young girls did not kill themselves ever
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, it just wasn't a thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: You hear stories about it sometimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not girls.
[SPEAKER_06]: But on par statistically, they were the lowest cohort.
[SPEAKER_06]: They are currently the fastest growing cohort of suicide.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's right now, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a reason for that shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's because they've been convinced, even though they're brain and body, know it's bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: They've been convinced this thing is useful for them.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's not true, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: They're living in a false world.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you can convince people, and look, I'm not saying to get off social media and shit, but know what it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, to your point,
[SPEAKER_06]: The same thing is true for what we call conservative and liberal.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've written extensively about this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those terms are meaningless unless you've grounded in something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's call it American Constitutionalism, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And I either want to preserve that thing or I want to be flexible enough to grow it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those are the two fucking...
[SPEAKER_00]: the patient redefined the term liberal.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Intentionally, they knew that they're doing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's like, without a baseline, these modifier words we use are fucking meaningless.
[SPEAKER_06]: Without knowing what a human being is and what you're designed on earth do.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is form and function from a Aristotelian logic, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: You look at a child.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a child.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, you look at a truck and you know it's not made for the water.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's got fucking tires on it Right, you see something you know what it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's how that's how all of nature works Let's be really fucking clear about that If you don't understand what it is a human being is at its at its foundational level then all of this stuff is just noise that will capture you forever
[SPEAKER_06]: So we have to take this way upstream.
[SPEAKER_06]: This, like, trying to monitor, like, put timers on people's social media and stuff like that, you're too late at that point.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't do it there.
[SPEAKER_06]: You have to retrain or initially train the brain of a child or an older person.
[SPEAKER_06]: To understand what it means to be human being the metaphysical part of it not like I eat food and I grow not that no The part like I need certain type.
[SPEAKER_06]: I need community I need purpose all these things that are foundational to what a human being is otherwise nothing else you do will ever fucking matter They will some large portion will always get captured by the new thing until there's nobody left Yeah, and because there are there are people that are starting to turn all
[SPEAKER_04]: Name an example, I don't know why I've said this in the past because they don't fucking watch anything, but I have a family member married into this family and they deliberately got out of California off the fucking grid, live in a state that I won't mention.
[SPEAKER_04]: But there's like, I don't know what's called a 15 of them that are living on this, like a bunch of acres and they got houses there and it's their parents.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have kids there and everything else, no electronics.
[SPEAKER_04]: no phones, no nothing, anything else.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they've got a microwave.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've got one television with a VCR on it, and like they've got VCR tapes, but that's kind of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was fascinated by that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, why you even go to that level?
[SPEAKER_04]: But there's no cable or anything else.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they were rich enough to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I will say this wasn't, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: bunch of fucking weird poor people who got together and decided to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were pretty smarts.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they just said, man, I don't like the way the world is headed right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you guys want to join us, we'll pay for your life.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we can raise our family.
[SPEAKER_04]: They live, but there's like a stream.
[SPEAKER_04]: They hunts.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do things like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is going on now for shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen him in five years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Five years.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, you know,
[SPEAKER_04]: watching them back in society.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were like, whoa, wow, this is, you know, it's unusual, but they picked back up and they were able to have a normal night in all of the other shits.
[SPEAKER_04]: But there's a lot of people that are starting to do this, which is wild to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't imagine going that extreme.
[SPEAKER_04]: But there certainly is a growing number of people who are sick of the noise and trying to block it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you why that is.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you finally realize just how
[SPEAKER_03]: All this stuff we're talking about is anti-human, it's meant to strip you of your humaneness.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you sense that the cage is closing around you, you take action.
[SPEAKER_03]: This family just talked about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was the father.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was the father and the mother who decided to take action.
[SPEAKER_04]: In this case.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there were older.
[SPEAKER_03]: And other people are taking action in their own way.
[SPEAKER_03]: maybe you're going to get a flip phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was my wife.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've gotten sitting over there on my desk.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm already put like I'm already, that's my dream.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I keep it on my desk is like a fucking vision book.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where I'm like, all right, hopefully I can achieve that dream today.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you know, whatever floats your boat, you're going to what is he, as you see just how anti-human this is, and it's coming from for you in particular, you take action to sidestep it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing this in China right now, the people who are under the social credit system over there in China is horrible, but the population has figured out ways to get around it, sidestep it or whatever, in some cases, just scuddle it all together.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's things that we can do, but until enough people
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to say rise up, we're not preaching revolution here, but if people get a win or what's going on, they'll be changes.
[SPEAKER_03]: across the country, not just in Washington, D.C. but it's down to state governments as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the local scenarios as well, your city council probably, they're doing the same stuff that they're doing in the national stage as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when people get win, just how ugly this thing is, they'll take action.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm convinced of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when you see how crazy, how bad quantum crazy these people are, literally, you can say shit here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I can see what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, transfer transfer, transfer translate.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you see just how crazy these people are, for instance,
[SPEAKER_03]: It occurred as you are, and all the people who's following this crazy dark maga, dark enlightenment, nonsense, they want to get a monarch in America for get the president.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want to dismiss the Congress all together.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want to create a sovereign corporation.
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be run by a startup company, a CEO,
[SPEAKER_03]: and they want to take all the private property and give it to the state, the sovereign state, at that point, the sovereign corporation.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you don't own anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is so anti-human.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not even funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it feels like Trump is at least trying to go against that of like, hey, dude,
[SPEAKER_04]: You should own something.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should own a house.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should try to accept that he's created an entire regulatory infrastructure to eradicate the possibility of us owning anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: How so, explain that to the audience for a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, we have a chapter in here that talks about right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: They passed the Genius Act, shortly following behind is the Clarity in the Stable Act.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is an infrastructure that is moving towards the tokenization of everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, you have physical assets, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You have, yes, or dollars of currency.
[SPEAKER_00]: We do know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a title?
[SPEAKER_00]: Pardon?
[SPEAKER_02]: And a title?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but, you know, if you, to give you an example, like if you were to buy a house, and I always caveat this because I know it feels like you rented because you pay tax property taxes, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So you rented from the government unless you have, you know, some sort of a land patent situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, those people, there is still that, but if you were to, let's say, start a business.
[SPEAKER_00]: And most of this country is historically founded upon small businesses.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we have several, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, what do most people do when they're looking to start a business?
[SPEAKER_00]: They get a loan.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them take a loan against the equity in their home.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, they actually have equity in their home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what happens if you have created a system which is very much like,
[SPEAKER_00]: What Larry think and Howard, let Nick keep saying we want to tokenize everything and they say, okay, we're going to give you a whole bunch of tokens in exchange for the asset, for the asset, the equity that's in your home.
[SPEAKER_00]: You will no longer own that property.
[SPEAKER_00]: You won't.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if your idea succeeds, is that not on you as the person and the individual to make that decision on your own?
[SPEAKER_00]: You can make the decision, but they're incented, they're creating an incentive structure and a regulatory framework where a lot of people are going to give up ownership so that they can have these tokens and these tokens are, you know, a pathway to an entire gamified society.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I keep talking about the cybernetic organism, I mean, that is how you can create a true social credit where people are going to be rewarded or penalize for certain behaviors.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be given more tokens.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we've already seen a message.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now with bank accounts being frozen, it shut down.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, with bank accounts being frozen, it shut down for plus, plus, plus, plus.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's call it that, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Being de-banks, it happened to us.
[SPEAKER_04]: But as far as taking a gamble on,
[SPEAKER_04]: let's take leans and things like that, you know, that's how you start a business.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how you would get the money otherwise.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not about the money.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's about transferring the money from an equity swap into fucking, it's a completely different stores of value.
[SPEAKER_06]: One store of value is guaranteed by the government, basically, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's after IC is sure, and all that bullshit, or it's the currency itself.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's one of those two things.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's guaranteed physical currency by the government.
[SPEAKER_06]: The other one is a marker for something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: A token, a token is a representation of something, but it's not the physical thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hollow.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just a marker.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have some tracks of land.
[SPEAKER_03]: I read about in Texas, where a developer, like several sections of land,
[SPEAKER_03]: And he wanted to build a huge development there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he took the whole block of land and he tokenized it, turned it into a crypto currency that can be traded all over the place.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so who owns the title of the property at point?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the people who owned the token, maybe they migrate to Saudi Arabia or Singapore,
[SPEAKER_03]: black rock or whatever, these people own these tokens because they're all tradable, like stock market stock, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: What tokens are these?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't know what this is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, tokens are based on blockchain for one thing and when it's token is created, like in that, in the case of this property, let's say they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they
[SPEAKER_03]: They valued the whole property at 1,000, excuse me, 1 million tokens.
[SPEAKER_03]: They create these tokens out of thin air, but based on blockchain, they just make it so.
[SPEAKER_03]: This property is going to be represented by these 1 million tokens.
[SPEAKER_06]: So your title instead of being a physical title to the property of your own is now split into a million different pieces.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: The value at that point is lifted out of the land.
[SPEAKER_03]: into this layer called tokens.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is the future of finance at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even people like Howard Litnik, for instance, he talks about tokenizing and with Larry think, I'm sure as well, but he talks about tokenizing all of the 600
[SPEAKER_03]: and 80 million acres that the United States owns right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not their land, but you know, it's supposed to have it entrust for us the people in this country.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the government owns 680 million acres of land.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's worth a lot of money admittedly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and let Nick, a big Epstein guy, Larry Fink, also.
[SPEAKER_06]: Larry Fink, by the way, we've done stories on him before about how
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, he and Barney Frank are the, they are the architects of that 2008 financial collapse.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: They fucked the housing market up so badly that it was beyond repair.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mostly, from, from Barney Frank's perspective through naive toxic empathy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody should have a home.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, and theory that sounds great, doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_06]: But that's how market economics works.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Larry Fink did all the private stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: He, of course, made all works.
[SPEAKER_06]: Prior to founding BlackRock, Fink was the guy that basically invented mortgage back securities.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is a direct parallel between what they're talking about.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Instead of the value of the home,
[SPEAKER_06]: being in the mortgage or the title of the home.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, you lift it up to a new store of value to an MBS that can be traded.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it was like complex stuff too.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were putting AAAs with AAs all the way that they were putting bees and triple bees and a pile together and then rating them A.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which doesn't even make any fucking sense, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: But what they did was they lifted the store value from the actual physical asset, the property that you own, up to a secondary level.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is the same thing that's going to happen if we tokenize it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is almost like 34th level.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's so far removed.
[SPEAKER_06]: With an alias, technically you could correct it at some point.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you tokenize it, it can never be corrected unless you eliminate tokenization, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: All together, which it is again.
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, this is dystopian nonsense.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is, I think, also unnecessary, that none of this is necessary.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, doesn't want to control it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't add any value for anybody that actually owns property, like an individual human being that owns one piece of property that adds no value to your life, not one bit of value.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is why Epschene was so investigating complexity science.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is why Maxwell invested in Santa Fe Institute.
[SPEAKER_00]: is why Epstein did shortly after, and is because this whole model of complexity science is how they can build this tokenized infrastructure, and they can model what they do is they do these predictive modeling on like emergent properties, but essentially they're trying to predict it so they can control it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I always say about the future, it's really easy to predict the future when you plan it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So where do you guys see this headed in the end?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or is it going to happen?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you already see you guys leave this, sir.
[SPEAKER_06]: You already see the rebellion against private property ownership.
[SPEAKER_06]: People are fucking pissed.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, there people are angry and it's going to get worse you you're you're seeing what's happening in California with homes getting wiped out and what happened in Hawaii with homes getting wiped out right now in New York with all this bullshit Where he's going to try to raise property taxes by nine and a half percent in one fell swoop.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to it's going to unhome people who have owned his like traditional historic homes in those burrows Oh, yeah, even in China in their little like
[SPEAKER_06]: 15 minutes city, they were built, they're beautiful, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty, they're empty
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, unless they give us enough so much, so we can learn to love our servitude and hopefully do a new world.
[SPEAKER_00]: You hold me?
[SPEAKER_06]: You holding any?
[SPEAKER_06]: So much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So much wouldn't be a good one.
[SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't make you feel nothing, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I get kind of.
[SPEAKER_06]: It just dulls you out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't want that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow, sometimes you do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes you do.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just check out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's get everybody on the solar side, but then we'll see what we can go from there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that would be a blast.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think we should put it in the water supply.
[SPEAKER_04]: Should be be worried about AI and the robots and all that other shits because that video you've you showed yesterday From China I believe it was with the Chinese robots performing the interpretive dance with the fucking swords Yeah, I was like oh, we're gonna die in five years like you can speed this up I thought it was gonna be maybe 30 to 40, but it might be faster.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's coming more
[SPEAKER_03]: More quickly than most people can even imagine at this point, and I have to say AI is doubling every four and a half months at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: That means by the time Trump is out of office, AI will have advanced from one, that's in January last year, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: To the fourth quarter, when he gets out of office, AI will have advanced 15,000 times.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just picture that for me we see it every single day so it's a big topic that we have a lot of huge jump orders of magnitude and this is that has the potential to really up and the world socially economically.
[SPEAKER_03]: politically as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is probably why these tech bros in Washington, DC.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just talking about that group in particular.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're so intent on getting all of these data centers established and working and up and running if you will.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't have the money for it, but that's not bothering them at all, you know, they're getting money from Saudi Arabia, from UAE, from Qatar, it doesn't matter, the second money all over the world to build these data centers in America.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's going on here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, in their mind, they're looking at the exit at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're exit.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they can get these data centers in place, then AI advances to the point where 16,000 from four years, well, there's nothing that will be held back from them at that point to do whatever they want to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: How can we stop this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I don't know right now, but I have somehow.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have an inherent faith in the American people Collectively somehow we're gonna figure out a way out of it Maybe I'm no, it's the The the Appalachian ancestors of the Scottish Enlightenment will murder all these people when it comes down to it That'll that's what will happen, and I'll be I'm okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry say that again
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, which part?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's at some point.
[SPEAKER_06]: No matter how much technology you create, it comes down to one man with a gun and another man with a gun.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can send all your robots out there, but unless you shield there for me and P, we could solve that problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I will blow your fucking brains out of the back of your head if you try to come take my shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's that simple net attitude is pervasive and a certain part of this country not Texas by the way They rolled over and got just let it happen here The Texas talks a good game, but they just rolled right the fuck over Appalachia on the other hand these descendants of the Scotch Irish They don't give a fuck.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're up there living in the woods already freezing the death right now They don't even care about I would say that there's parts of the Ozarks as well
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there's still murder some people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just, like, what do you do with 50 robot dogs, you know, with machine guns traps here?
[SPEAKER_06]: I use make any MP.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, everything's got a weakness.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're, I mean, yeah, I'm not, I'm not concerned with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interestingly, I think, you know, they do a lot of the operational preparation of the environment through film and television.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's, that's about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been saying that for years, about aliens mostly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, aliens, too, yes, disclosure is coming out this summer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Conveniently, read the same time trial.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to give you speech, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and I'm sure you're talking about this Spielberg movie?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I saw a movie called Arco, and it's not only performance, one of the producers of it, and it's a cartoon, and it's set very far in the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't tell you how far in the future is like the guy is, the boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: but he travels back in time, and what's interesting, there isn't a bring this up, what's interesting is in his time, the humans become kind of superhuman.
[SPEAKER_00]: They develop, you know, like teleportation and fly, they're kind of superhuman.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're all human, I mean, whatever, you know, a new version of humanity, an evolved version, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're human, and he travels back to his 275.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why they chose 275, except that it is a pretty significant year for the UN.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of plans for 275.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if that's why they chose it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in 275, the robot's really run a lot of the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're kind of the parents.
[SPEAKER_00]: the cops you know there a lot of the infrastructure for the society that's what I would guess though right now if I had to take a guess yeah but it's interesting that then you go I mean and the girl keeps saying that she's like oh wait so you don't have robust in your world so it goes back to the and the route they do show the shortcomings of the robots you know their their batteries go out there
[SPEAKER_00]: you know they're certainly not invaluable.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, good luck good luck keeping however you you they're talking about like a million men roll about army good luck keeping them charged on the front lines of battle against me I can live in the woods forever bitch.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I just think, there will be, there will be it on the other side.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's a reason why with the data center, if there's a reason why the UN, you know, there are recent Davos meeting, they totally, like, sidestep the whole climate narrative, because the solar and wind are not powering those data centers.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't even use like manufactured water, like they have to use fresh drinking water, because otherwise it breeds bacteria and it's corrosive.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they need fresh drinking water from these doubter centers.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that whole climate narrative, which was all propaganda, that the club of Rome admitted in their 1992 global revolution document, that it was propaganda, they've totally put it aside, and the whole narrative was about AI, and they have to put it aside because obviously the two are not commensurate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, they'll get back to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But for sure, now the narrative is AI.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it needs so much energy.
[SPEAKER_06]: It does, but it's all like the AI is a threat as so far as we allow it to be in our personal lives until they can shrink nuclear energy way the fuck down.
[SPEAKER_06]: Until they can solve for the energy problem, that whole robot on the thing that's far.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what they're going with that is the next gen nuclear.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean those SMRs are getting pretty good.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're moving them around now, but it's even that is No, it's not a thousand times the size of what it needs to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're certainly not, it's not without a shortcoming.
[SPEAKER_06]: So no, no, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, just the materials to be able to make it and then the materials to be able to run it or to difficult, you have to have, in some cases, heavy water reactors to generate the source materials is like, it's, it's,
[SPEAKER_06]: It's where we're a long way away from robot armies coming after us.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is how globalism and the administrative state have always worked.
[SPEAKER_06]: It isn't some huge military operation that takes people down.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's slow and steady.
[SPEAKER_00]: Increased on steady.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why the Fabian mascot is the tortoise.
[SPEAKER_06]: Fabian was known for, like, slightly retreating and then attacking again over time, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, this is the slow and steady one, the boiling frog, they're called whatever you want, but that's what gets you, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's why just being aware of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: prevents it to some degree.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sunlight being the best disinfected, obviously.
[SPEAKER_06]: But just being aware of it and then all the fundamental elements of what it means to be a human being, how Western civilization has developed, what civil societies look like, what the elements are, what your contribution must be, all that stuff can stay off, most of the shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't have to go bury your money in the woods.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, I mean, it's not going to be worth anything anyways, but you don't have to do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would recommend stockpiling weapons in ammo, but that's a leisure activity for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not necessarily.
[SPEAKER_06]: Something's common.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's just what I enjoy doing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he does it a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you stockpiled that, you should probably have some preps because it'll get pretty feral at some point.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's so many things you can do in your city, or your county, with, for instance, the cameras that are just all over the place.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, flock cameras, for instance, license plate readers, pre-crime software, that sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Grok and OpenAI, both have created software packages for the government now, it's called, I think, OpenAI
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's a very sophisticated product for the government to use and they say oh and by the way We're gonna we're gonna mark it to the states as well and then to the cities really okay So how about just be aware of what's coming into your city now if this if this grock Gov or open AI gov
[SPEAKER_03]: that that software comes into your city.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well that's going to be seated with things like Palantir.
[SPEAKER_03]: For a total surveillance nightmare that you wish you never saw in your life, but this the battle can be fought locally at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: The city council members in your city they live where you live and they're in your city already.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can get your hands on it, if you will, and not maliciously, but you can talk to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you should, I think, people should stop shaking their fist at the TV and President Trump and all the other tech-brows and Washington D.C., you understand it there, but get to business locally, and you can make a life for yourself, perhaps, put a firewall around
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, live for the outcome.
[SPEAKER_00]: That almost every state has had a digital governance summit.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not every state, but for multiple years now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's also the chat sheet, PT.gov.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to be a government official to enter it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But these are things that people could go to and protest against, or at least find out what's going on and see if there are bills that could be created to push back in their state and their city locally.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I say, I use AI to some extent for research.
[SPEAKER_03]: The only use, the only good use of for AI is to figure out how to destroy it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm too dumb for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'll leave that to somebody smarter.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I, I, you know,
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that you can right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not so quickly, and we were chatting before coming on air.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just about Google and those guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've taken the guard rails off completely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they have.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's a race to race to the end.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a race to the end at this point.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there's a lot of things people can do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think one of the biggest scientists to convince us that we're so powerless, and it's all happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the whole black pill, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just destined and we just sit back and do nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Either trust the plan or watch it, you know, implode.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think that's true at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go back to 2020.
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw, you know, just as an example, we saw how many of these mothers were parents were horrified at what their children were being taught in school when it came home on Zoom.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you saw these mama bears rise up and go to the school boards and
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, protests and they change curriculums.
[SPEAKER_00]: They made a huge impact.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that it's all perfect now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not all roses and rainbows.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, they did make a difference.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's, that's, everybody has a different role.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people, when, as we get asked all the time, what can we do, you know, and I think everybody wants, like the smoking gun that's just the one and done solution.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think it's that simple.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I definitely think each of us have unique gift strengths and talents, and we have different resources.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should use those and we should let our passion be a guide as to where we can make a difference individually.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to look very different, I think, for most of us.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the cost of liberty is persistent vigilance.
[SPEAKER_06]: That will never not be true, it will never not be true.
[SPEAKER_06]: So one thing that you can fool into your daily life is, anytime there's any sort of emergency situation, no matter how small, whatever the government tries to sell you, tell them to go fuck themselves.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a, that's a really simple thing you're going to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: The government is not here to help you.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you, you, you, the, the more problems you as an individual in your community can solve before the government shows up, the better off you will be, that's a fundamental rule of life.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now as the point in the show, we get to the drinking bro of the week, which is someone who has inspired you, or helps you become the person you are today, Patrick will start with you, who'd you like to give the drinking bro the week to?
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, it's certainly my old partner he's dead now, unfortunately, but my old partner Anthony Sutton would be my choice for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I had a big impact on my life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what did he do?
[SPEAKER_03]: He was a, this is the research scholar at Stanford University.
[SPEAKER_03]: He worked at the Hoover Institution for War Peace and Revolution, I think, was called, but he was an immense scholar, researcher, academic, he taught me everything that I never know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to say when I went to college at University of Arizona, that wasn't a very good college.
[SPEAKER_03]: But what I wanted to say is what you know what I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when I got out of college,
[SPEAKER_03]: I measured economics.
[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't read the card category catalog in library.
[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't find a book.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how ignorant I was when I got to college.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a researcher.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to do all this fancy writing and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't use a card catalog.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Sutton told taught me how to research.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was a master.
[SPEAKER_03]: He knew how to get stuff out of people as amazing stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is where I got my start.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I had met him at that point, I would not be here today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Master of the micro-fish?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Courtney, what about you?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the drinking brush has this work for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: As somebody who has inspired your help to become the person you are today.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's so hard to pick one person.
[SPEAKER_04]: gun to head right now and I'm about to raise my gun so you've got five seconds.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a fuck out now.
[SPEAKER_04]: It sits with a whole world ends.
[SPEAKER_04]: This show ends.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all end all end.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a person who inspired me.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Frank.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: Alan Keller.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: As a kid it would have been Alan Keller.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it definitely would have been- You don't think she's a fraud?
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_06]: Alan Keller.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do we think she's what?
[SPEAKER_06]: How could she have ever learned language if she couldn't hear a C?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the story goes at any Sullivan taught her through a hand.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sure did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, or a story, a story, a story, a story.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is the story.
[SPEAKER_04]: A story about a man named Brady, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually played Helen Keller in New York City.
[SPEAKER_06]: I said my wife played her in a movie as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was called Helen Keller's Nightwolf.
[SPEAKER_06]: She fought vampire.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was such a hard role for me because I think from most actors, like they have to, you know, it's an exercise and sensory deprivation, which is very challenging.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, it was about allowing myself to, like, remember and to experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I spent my whole life trying to put behind that's it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Could I do a challenge yourself or what the hell what that seems a little Massochistic to be honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really challenging Yeah, because I every other day of my childhood I worse a patch of my sighted eye and so and I didn't have hearing aids yet So it's essentially blinded death every other day and so I had to it was very traumatic and to do that role.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah I guess I did it yourself what you did it to yourself
[SPEAKER_00]: the patch?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my parents, my mom would put on the patch and yeah, I had a boyfriend in our school whose job was usually to help me by the end of the day to rip the patch off, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: They blew the patch on.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, but it's sticky, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not that easy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I get to do a whole other show on this for now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like two years old, and you're trying to rip it off.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was the reason, she said.
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea was that I had very little vision in my other eye, and the idea was that it would help strengthen it.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, they were hoping, as I got older, I actually developed glaucoma, and then I lost most.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you the lights on are off, so I really don't have a vision in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they were also, they didn't know what would be in terms of the condition.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the hope was to give me the skills to be able to function, whether or not I had hearing or sight.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm grateful for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so my mom, my grandfather, who, like, were very instrumental in all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: My mom had this idea to develop a balance beam that I would walk on every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: to, like, they're all at the patch on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Depreception, and proprioception.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my grandfather should build that beam.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my reward at the end of the week, if I was able to successfully complete it without falling off, whether I had the patch on or not, with that they would make this beam narrower.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that was the reward.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you grew up in North Korea, as we were saying.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You grew up in the air.
[SPEAKER_04]: You were going to say, oh, oatmeal.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was very, like, accomplishment-driven.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the reward was we give you another challenge.
[SPEAKER_03]: They won't believe what you just, what you became after that, though, with telling about your career a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: In an aerial.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, so I'm an aerial acrobat and I was doing actually in 2020 I think that's it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was an aerial acrobatic for former and I would do for like Cirque du Soleil
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't for Cirque du Soleil, I was a motivational speaker, so I've talked about movement as a metaphor for life, so using movement as a teacher to help you overcome adversity that you're in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then you do a fucking back flip.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you do a fucking back flip.
[SPEAKER_04]: You do a back flip right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to do one here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can do one with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can do one with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can do one with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can do one with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so I would do aerial performances to show people what was possible, you know, when nobody thought it was.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They told my mom that she could hope was finding nice institutions for my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we'll make it to my mom, my family who, you know, supported me and to fight the odds and helped me to, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got to ask them.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, typically is we're in the show, but like, how did you guys meet them?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good question.
[SPEAKER_04]: We met at a conference a few years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's doing backflips around her.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you were tossing bagels at her?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, well, that's why I went down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: But I spoke at a conference in Southern California.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was in the audience.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we we just several shows together and I didn't have to share this because it's so funny to me But we would do shows together and you know like these are researchers and he's like Do you know this software?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's called the brain is like well you should get the brains And we can share a brain and I always think this is so funny and like the anti-technocracy guy is like we should share a brain
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're link it up, that was a software name.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it's a software name, it's like mine maps software.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can, to multiple people can input and then be building a bigger mine back.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_04]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you two crazy kids have fun The book is out now The final betrayal like you talk about this for hours, by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an honestly fascinating to me It is out on Amazon audio book Kind of paperback.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got a hard back out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: No hard back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay
[SPEAKER_03]: But people like the audio book, three and a half hours.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can get it here at just short.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody loves audio books.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a huge amount.
[SPEAKER_04]: 80% of the sales are audio books now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody wants to listen to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: We appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for being here.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys are super fascinating.
[SPEAKER_04]: And be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having us.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate you guys tune in and go to iTunes, write the show of five star and leave a quick review.
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody on the app, because we have an app, drink a bros app, it's free, said, hey, dude, you're a liar.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got to 10,000 reviews on Spotify, did we?
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been checked it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I've been looked.
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't either.
[SPEAKER_04]: If we did.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should look and shut the fuck up about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I will.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would love to.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I looked at iTunes because that's where our back end is connected to when we have, we're like 8,000.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we're not close on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're at 10,100.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are we really on Spotify?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm sure you don't have to say that anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: No way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: Holy shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Man, that's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't just go to iTunes for the showfiles.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not a great reveal.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it, okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: I promise.
[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate you tuning in for Danny Danny.
[SPEAKER_04]: All the way, I'm Ross Patterson.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is Drinking Rose pod.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not everyone.