[SPEAKER_03]: I got stuff for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Holy moly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to get some snakes and release them around my house.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I love eat people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love eat kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys are the scientists of the supernatural.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lecturers leaving lessons for inquiring laymen.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are applying the scientific method to a world that baffle signs.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are the cryptids of the corn.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every day, the yield in your mouth.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more convinced that you're a Dutch by aliens.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just, uh, I mean, it just, like, kept coming on and going.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she goes, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_03]: These are idiots.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was laughing reading this, because I already knew how you would feel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Idiot.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the story?
[SPEAKER_03]: It fits your balloon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this isn't a UFO.
[SPEAKER_03]: But who else has big black wings and red eyes?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Batman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, mach man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, mach man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, everyone, I think we know it's sadly what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So say it all with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a sandville crane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you try it?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: You wouldn't need it?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they're probably toxic.
[SPEAKER_03]: There'd be a lot of poop in my face.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen a six foot alligator go swimming through the air and slam into a tree.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, hello and welcome back to the Cryptids of the Cornpudcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am the great and powerful mystery.
[SPEAKER_03]: In today, we got rid of Jay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I haven't done this in a while, it's been actually quite a long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Jay used to do a lot of interviews and, you know, moving it all out stuff and getting the homestead ready.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've kind of cut back on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: today I'm joined by an extremely intelligent gentleman.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just on his show recently we met at Squonco Plaza.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this year or two years ago as in 2025 or I can't remember now.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all run together, but he's runs a really cool show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Check it out on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's
[SPEAKER_02]: That's correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great creatures with Oggy macro on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for being here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really great to be here, Mr. E. I just seen, which we'll talk about them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I owe the puppets in the background, and I love every one of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: But before we get rocked and rolling, please tell everybody where they go to follow you, and everyone's looking at everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything he lists, I'll put in links below, so they'll just click the link, give them a follow, listen to them, have some fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: But go ahead, take it away, Augie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I am the host and creator of a documentary series on YouTube, cryptid creatures with Augie macro, where I discuss, you know, cryptids, the paranormal unexplained mysteries and other things of interest.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... you can find my channel on youtube cryptic creatures with augum macro we've we haven't done any of the like patreon or anything yet so but look out for that in in the near-to-distant future but cryptic creatures with augum macro on youtube awesome so once again everybody make sure you follow him below give him a subscription
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... and watch for that stuff because he does really cool stuff really smart guy here uh... we talked i think for like two and a half or three hours on his show uh... mean you could talk all night it's it one of those were both dinosaur people and you know how that goes uh... but i guess that's rock and roll uh... what got you into wanting to do a like documentary youtube series
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, my fascination with cryptids began.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was always aware of like, you know, the big ones like Bigfoot Loch Ness Monster, really, and things like that, but my first actual interest in it began in, in second grade, because in the school library, there was this book called Tales of the Cryptids,
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it was mysterious creatures that may or may not exist, I think, might have been the, was the subtitle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, it was, it was, it was this really interesting book, and it had, because you always hear about the big ones, but you never hear about, like, some of the lesser known ones, and it made me think there are a lot of these mysterious creatures that people talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's, there's got to be more to it than just, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: random people saying stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of them, they're, they're just, they're so interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're design-wise and history-wise and, and just everything about them is there's a lot more to it than anyone from the outside would give it credit for.
[SPEAKER_02]: So from there, I explored the subject and my dad, Clint macro, has experience with podcasting and things of that nature.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought, why don't we do a show about cryptids?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I had been brainstorming the idea for a few years before, but in 20,
[SPEAKER_02]: 19, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in 2019, the summer of 2019, that was whenever we first started filming and we were just like, you know, let's try this out for fun, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're up in the woods of Cameron County, Pennsylvania, it's like North Central Pennsylvania, middle of the Appalachians.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're looking for big foot, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I'm much shorter and higher pitched than I am now,
[SPEAKER_02]: point in out like broken trees and stuff like that saying it's big foot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we released more and more episodes and eventually we decided to make a serious thing out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was our third episode, Mothman, the history and the mystery, a season one episode theory where we actually started getting into it is like, huh, this is something that we could do something with.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's like I asked, man, my brain's all over the place already.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, getting out and doing it, that's something we don't really do.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's really neat.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we try and do, you know, lots of on location things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we try and interview.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh,
[SPEAKER_02]: for anyone that hasn't seen it, think like, you remember in search of with Leonard Neymoy from, yeah, that kind of, a little bit of rod surling thrown in.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, something, something kind of like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's, it's family friendly, but it's still, you know, and it, we don't take ourselves very seriously, but we still can, uh, explore the subject seriously and, and you know, with rigor.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: So where do, how did the puppets come into it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um,
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for those who are unaware on each of the episodes, I'm very artistically inclined.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I make lots of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: So just for the fun of it, I started making puppets for each of the cryptids that we discuss.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think the second episode, yeah, the second episode, Nessie or not, we talked about the lightness monster.
[SPEAKER_02]: I made a little hand puppet of messy and then and then from there it grew.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not entirely sure why we started doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like I enjoy it and it's a fun gimmick.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're awesome, by the way, everybody at home.
[SPEAKER_03]: Watch the videos.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you go to a festival where he's at, check him out because they are awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think the first physical one I seen from you, I think was the squank and then I went back.
[SPEAKER_03]: This squank is amazingly made.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, I love, it is like,
[SPEAKER_03]: scarily ugly cute, which is a squonk, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you nailed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what the squonk is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it just, I try to buy it off.
[SPEAKER_03]: He like four times for my wife, because that's her favorite thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it, it looks like what I think the squonk should look like, but it's like expertly done.
[SPEAKER_03]: The teeth bother me in a good way, because it looks like it has like some people teeth with its tusk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where did the teeth come from?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, well, it's um,
[SPEAKER_02]: So this whole thing, it's, it's, it's definitely my most robust puppet, so for it, it functions as a stuffed animal and as a puppet kind of because he's chunky, but the teeth were, are you familiar with friendly plastic?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it's this, it's this crafting material.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's these little plastic beads and you can put them in water and put them in microwave for like a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can, they're like in the, it's like this potty stuff that'll dry or cool off and harden.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what the teeth are and then I painted them.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, they look really good because I thought they were people teeth at first.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you stole them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, no, it's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think I see the lizard man behind ya.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that Nancy Poseidon kind of tucked in there?
[SPEAKER_02]: This here's the, we got Lizard person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lotness monsters a little bit above him.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's the wind to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's the wind to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, flatwoods monster.
[SPEAKER_02]: Myfman, there's a Jersey devil here.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's crampus way up there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Goatman, Thunderbird, dogman, Ogapogo, big foot in the Hodag.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love more others on that well and that well the atmospheric jellyfish is on that well Which if you watched the video I did with august you'll see him in the background.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll
[SPEAKER_02]: We still need to do the last bit of filming and editing for that episode, but we'll get that episode out in the next two weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is this doesn't come out for I think three weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it probably by the time this comes out, it may either be out or will soon be out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if it's already out, I'll link it below too.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, they're great.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how the whole deck guys didn't steal the whole deck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, did they try?
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the only puppet where there's two of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They really, really, really wanted a Hodag puppet for the whole story.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually made a second Hodag.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has a twin brother that is currently residing in Rhinelander.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, I think, the name to him, Huey.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Huey the Hodag.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they bring them to festivals and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think I seen it at a festival later in the year last year.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't realize it was one of yours.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, the whole deck guys are great.
[SPEAKER_03]: If anybody check out Riley and her, if it wasn't so far away, we'd go with the whole deck.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, all the puppets are amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put their names.
[SPEAKER_02]: We made an episode about the Hodaga season one episode 10, the Hodaga four.
[SPEAKER_03]: And.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was part of this summer trip.
[SPEAKER_02]: We like to do big road trips and we'll film for like 10 episodes on a road trip.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the one that we did, we went, we did this whole thing around the Great Lakes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we went up through Michigan.
[SPEAKER_02]: We filmed for the dogman and went up the upper pin and saw and did some stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And our prime objective was Ryan Lander.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... that was so we we've spent a whole day in rindlander uh... we visited the hodags store we actually went to Eugene Shepherd's grave site um... i've never seen that before that's something that we like to do we like to like go to the go to the grave of the person that's involved uh... yeah i don't see that very often uh... we went to you know that the chamber of commerce and and actually we did a little segment in that episode of the rindelip was the rindelip was
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's this other local legend.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's from this small town, like 15 miles outside of outside of Rhine lander.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's this, the name is like a combination of rhinoceros elephant and octopus.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like this really weird and an early green thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also called the Venus Lancers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's this little Venus, like right next to the town.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the name of the town escapes here, right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it's it's really just this big gnarly tree like the trunk of a tree and this guy painted it and sculpted a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean that did you show me that last year?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, maybe.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you may have showed me a picture of it because that is the only way.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a giant tree upside down.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's we paid green all that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in a big cage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you showed me that thing is wicked.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we do our own little big foot festival here in our town.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I so desperately want to make it like a thing like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the corn flutter, something like that, because I'm from, everybody listening to this, I don't already know, we're from Northwest Ohio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I am from Northwest Ohio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or in the corn, like it's corn for the next, if you drive straight west, you will be in corn for 14 hours.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so I, we, we like playing that up, but that thing is wicked, so out of doing these, what has been, I guess I got two questions for you, what has been the easiest documentary you've done and what has been the hardest documentary you've done, um, easiest.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: It depends, like with, you know, the second episode of the show, where it's still, like, it's still kind of this rinky-dink thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're, because we're talking about, you know, the likeness monster, we can't actually go, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: My dad has a friend, he's an epidemiologist, but he, he is Scottish, he grew up in Scotland.
[SPEAKER_02]: He lives in New Jersey right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: but he came on the show because he was the closest thing to a lot of Nessie expert that yeah, I've shout out to Grant Gallagher that's his name.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: But things like that were just we we can't really get to the plate.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's that that makes it a little easier in terms of like getting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it makes things a little more difficult in other ways, you know, because we like the production value of actually being there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say though the hardest one by far was the grand tour, the cryptid's creatures and curiosities of the Keystone State.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not one of our episodes, it is a feature length program where we travel across the state of Pennsylvania exploring cryptids and folklore and urban legends and historical
[SPEAKER_02]: right just interesting places you know we have a lot of places from we for anyone who doesn't know we I am from the Pittsburgh area south western Pennsylvania so we have a lot of stuff in Pittsburgh might might dad grew up in north central Pennsylvania so we have a lot of stuff up in Cameron County and stuff yeah that was that was really really fun to do but it took like
[SPEAKER_02]: like two years to do the whole thing, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what we put, we put a lot of driving hours on over the course of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We most of the stuff that we filmed for that was over the course of a whole summer.
[SPEAKER_02]: My dad travels a lot for work, so I was able to hop along with him and film a few things at a time, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We always, there's, there's this festival, the cinema honing snake hunt up in Cameron County.
[SPEAKER_02]: We always go to, it's around my birthday.
[SPEAKER_02]: We always go up to it every year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that year, as well as doing that, we hit like 12 different spots for different creatures on the way and on the way back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was, I'm very proud of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds like a quite the undertaking.
[SPEAKER_02]: not only was it a lot to actually film, but there was so much, my dad, I can't, I can't thank him enough for what he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the, you know, the film or the editor, the sound guy, the post-production, you know, he's, he's doing everything behind the scenes while I'm
[SPEAKER_02]: like, you know, fixing the sound and putting graphics in and and putting music in and like it was, it was an ordeal, but I'm, I'm very proud of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of, that thing, it was kind of inspired by, uh, there's this show on WQED.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's called the Pittsburgh History Series.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's a, it's a really neat documentary about the Pittsburgh area.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's, you can watch them PBS actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have it streaming on PBS.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[SPEAKER_02]: But there was this one documentary, or one episode on that show, it was called the Pennsylvania Roadshow, and they just kind of bounced around the state and looked at some different places of interest in Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the inspiration for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would, you know, I always liked the Pittsburgh history series, and Rick Seaback.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the host of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has a really good, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: presence.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought, why couldn't you do that with cryptids?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it started out it was just going to be like an episode, but we had so much stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had to make it into a movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and that is also available on our channel.
[SPEAKER_02]: The grand tour of the cryptids creatures and
[SPEAKER_03]: What are some of the cryptids from that?
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't got to go into any detail, but I'm just curious.
[SPEAKER_02]: See a lot of Pennsylvania is one of the most paranormal, most cryptid-infested states.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of them aren't really talked about as much, you know, because you got like the squunk is probably the biggest, but even that he's not, you know, he's, he's not like the jersey devil or mothman or something like a very distinctly that state thing, but not as well known.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, there's, there's, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's this kind of a dogman sort of creature from, from Clinton County, called the G-Waggle.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's, I mean, there's tons of ghosts and things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's the Kexberg UFO, which crash landed outside of the tiny town of Kexberg
[SPEAKER_02]: in Westmoreland County on December 9th, 1965 and the following day was carried away by the government probably to write Patterson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right down the road for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been wanting to go there for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it is interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've actually had some truckers on the show that delivered stuff to right Pat and some people have claims, but it gets like a hundred trucks a day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's an exaggeration, but.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, dozens of trucks, though, would deliver you sometimes coming a day, and every once in a while, there's a truck elevator, like a semi-elevator, to take it to the lower level.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not, that's not secret, that's not like a conspiracy, that exists.
[SPEAKER_03]: because there's so much stuff underground, they'll pull us in my end to like a bay and drop it down into the ground.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you never can see what's happening down there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we've had truck driver buddies that I've said, like, yeah, we were sitting there with the delivery line and we watched us in my just disappeared underground.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's impressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, to make a whole, like, that's a big elevator.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you should definitely do one on right pat.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is it is freaky being around it Some of the basic walk on, but you can see like wear the for project blue book Like where the office was and everything like that Yeah That would be a good one for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just more of a matter of getting out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a drive That 80 episodes worth of material I'd like to do, but it's just getting to the place
[SPEAKER_02]: and like having it not conflict with school and work and, you know, whatever else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you said the dog man, the Kexberg which Kexbergs are really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody with an episode on that like in season two or something like that, but Kexberg, I think is the one location we've been through the most.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: because we filmed there in a season one episode for are we alone?
[SPEAKER_02]: We filmed there for, I think it's season one episode 11, the festival special, because we did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The festival special was like we went to, you know, there were like five different festivals that we featured, like, crypt of festivals.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like we went to what we went to, there was the Forest County Bigfoot Festival, which is a smaller thing up in Northern Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_02]: We went to Mothman.
[SPEAKER_02]: We went to the Flatwoods monster convention.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was its first year actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did monster fest in Canton.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we had squonka pollution on there actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we had the Kexberg UFO festival as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about the men in black there for season two episode three, the return of them off, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted another place to shoot at.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't feel like being in the set.
[SPEAKER_02]: So men in black were reported alongside the, oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we decided to go there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we featured in the Grand Tour, because that's another big Pennsylvania thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that one, that's definitely a favorite side of ours.
[SPEAKER_02]: what do you think it was the kicks per UFO well um i don't know i mean a lot of i it's it's a lot of it isn't so much me formulating my own opinion it's just you know finding all of them interesting
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I absolutely think that stuff has crashed and the government has hidden it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it convinced me, otherwise, that the B2 stealth bomber is of reverse engineered alien technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, the Venera explanation for the Kexberg UFO that it was actually one of the Venera space probes,
[SPEAKER_02]: But then crashed, that actually makes a lot of sense to me because the timeline fits and all of the circumstances about it makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want because I remember around the edge because it was described like an egg corn kind of around that rim where they said about the picture graphs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I wonder if it was just Russian.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, what do you expect?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, six these era of people from from, you know, tiny town Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I wouldn't it would be like looking for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know any other languages, so mine as well be handy and you know when you I'm looking at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it says just looks like things, you know, I can get behind that being a crashed Soviet probe or even a US probe or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, because we work.
[SPEAKER_02]: the their gloca explanations you were the Nazi anti-gravity aircraft design that US would have repurposed whenever they took all the Nazi scientists.
[SPEAKER_02]: That makes sense too that like is that the design of or the D gloca excuse me that just the you know the designs of those ships are very, very, very similar.
[SPEAKER_03]: They looked very, yeah, when you see pictures, that was when I did a school report on the the bell, Michael Hock, it does, you're right, it looks, I mean, it's like the same shape, like the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that'd be interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have the creature that they thought was inside it was actually just an American pilot that's like just got scrambled because he crashed into the side of Pennsylvania mountain.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gosh, what about Braxie?
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about Braxie?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she's here, she's a favorite of mine, whenever it comes to like the cryptid herself is like just I mean even like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because again, I'm very artistic.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll, the design of things appeals to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, she's very distinctly feminine.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not very common outside of mythology.
[SPEAKER_02]: Usually, usually people call the things he or her head turns.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, I don't know everybody at home can't see this, it is amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can you can see this puppet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm currently holding the flowers monster puppet for people who can't see.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's in, I've talked about the flowers monster in a few different episodes, but the puppet first appears in
[SPEAKER_02]: season one episode 12.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's 12.
[SPEAKER_02]: The monster of Braxton County that we wanted to just we wanted to give Braxton her own episode because we we visited the flatwoods monster museum and and talked to Andrew there.
[SPEAKER_02]: for what?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was episode five of season one, the museum special.
[SPEAKER_02]: We visited a ton of cryptid museums.
[SPEAKER_02]: We went to, you know, expedition big foot, Sasquatch Museum in Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: We went to the International Crypto Zoology Museum in Portland.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's now actually they're moving locations to Bangor.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I learned about that recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were originally in Portland.
[SPEAKER_02]: We went to the Mothman Museum, obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm forgetting one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm forgetting one, but uh, and then the fly was my stream museum.
[SPEAKER_03]: So do you think she was an alien?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think she was a drone?
[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard all kinds of theories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, it's, it's just hard to say because it was like the like one and a half reports.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is not a whole lot of material to go off of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I haven't, I haven't really formulated an actual opinion about
[SPEAKER_02]: what she is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's one of our show's favorites.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I love the really scary, cryptid things that do nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Braxie was just there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like you said, there's like three reports where it's the main one with the kids and the mom, then there was a campers on the side of a
[SPEAKER_03]: and she didn't attack anybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, she, she smelled nauseous.
[SPEAKER_03]: They said, never think like that, but that's not fizzed like she didn't grab somebody and shake them or try to eat them or nothing like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Same with like the graphs and monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of our shows favorites because he just existed.
[SPEAKER_03]: The original guy that seen him on the side of the road worked for the newspaper absolutely regretted telling anybody about it because the man hunt
[SPEAKER_03]: because he didn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't just was like, he was just sitting there whistling, and you know, the others 400 hicks out here with shotguns trying to shoot him.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's why we're a little braxy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's in the distinctly feminine.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like collectively the whole society has just been like, yeah, braxy is a woman.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's got to dress with pockets.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my favorite.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got a little cartoon where she meets the Fresno night crawlers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that one was in, yeah, it was in fallout, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: All at 76, Braxie was was one of the aliens from that universe in in a suit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you done the
[SPEAKER_02]: It's either episode seven or episode eight here be dragons as the name of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we we discussed some dragon myths and we we discussed the smelly on that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: We visited Sarah Cooper in Maryland and we heard about the, you know, the smelly gastrones smelly gastromesium.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we have we have talked about the smelly.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: that's a real thing like it's it's insane to me that you can say that sentence uh... u.s. president left the campaigning trail with his pet hyena to hunt to drag it uh... now i love this nanny what is a documentary say money what an object let's say danger what like you could go do this what would be one that you would absolutely love to go do
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not good at picking favorites or ones of things because I can make arguments for a letter.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, there's so much in the world's a crazy place.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if dangerous, though, object, then, you know, like crack in the whole UFO conspiracy would be something, uh, I don't know if that really counts, but like, like,
[SPEAKER_02]: actually walk in the area 51, you know, that would be something.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like just be able to just see you walk him through with your dad, filming as you're walking past the gates, not getting shot, not getting shot out by people in white jeeps.
[SPEAKER_03]: Harry if they want to be a good one, that would be a really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't
[SPEAKER_02]: just something like that because I mean, you know, anywhere in the world, if money is no object, then, you know, that's that's one thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, you know, I don't know how well you be able to pay someone off to get into somewhere as secure as that.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a there's a number.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a big number.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying it ain't there's a lot of zeroes on that check, but Lockheed Martin numbers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, that's how you do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You become the CEO of Lockheed Mark and our skunk works or and then you or Blackrock and then you get to go right in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your office is actually on the second floor on the ground Oh gosh, we are above where the lizard people have lunch
[SPEAKER_03]: with with the grays eating people, uh, we did that in the dulled shape base.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how that was described.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Eric for the ones a good one.
[SPEAKER_03]: How would love to do we would just we're doing we're doing a extended series right now on the jungle wall or says at the Congo.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, the Dinging Act.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the Dinging Act, uh, but the Congo, I mean, Locally in Bend Bay in Congo, Modos in the Dinging Act, like monster quest found like a Moline, uh, supposedly, Locally in Bend Bay, then.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they had a camera that just wasn't long enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just wasn't long enough to get all the way back in this tunnel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I really think,
[SPEAKER_03]: The Conganese cryptids could easily be discovered if the Congo wasn't such a horrid war zone right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we, or buddy's lie, a black person, we were talking to him about it, like he was going to go to the Congo for McKinley and Ben Bay and then just like nope, because they basically said he wasn't going to come back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and he's, you know, you got kids or a family, like, like, danger, what an option I'd been the Congo.
[SPEAKER_03]: We were just talking to like, oh, gosh, there was an explorer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you probably, you know what, Congo motos are, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so for everybody home, they're, they're basically either giant red bats.
[SPEAKER_03]: were like terrorist wars or anything like that, but they're extremely aggressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're basically flying like piranhas.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there was a guy looking for Picalean Bembe and ran into those.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so you can run into different cryptids looking for other cryptids.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are that dense there that you can accidentally discover the wrong cryptid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they were trying to eat him.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they discovered him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there there are so many in the Congo.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: See, I'm conflicted with what they would be if they exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: like it's they didn't survive the extinction event.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that's it's not that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always find the the idea of like the temporal fissure opening up and letting stuff in and out from different areas.
[SPEAKER_02]: A universally applicable concept because a lot of these things could very easily just be misinterpretations of extinct species or whatever else, you know, not just from the past even.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, or it's like, you know, giant turtles that have grown to immense sizes and have, you know, hidden themselves away from civilization or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can be with anybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm with I really do think there are like, I don't know the best word for time portals or anything like that or these energy zones.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where things just come in and out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there are so many depictions.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's we did a Native Americans or the cartridge Creek beast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Vroom 1800's he drew a U. Tyrannis a feathered Theropod.
[SPEAKER_03]: way way way before we knew what therapists really look like and knew that you trans was covered in feathers.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, yeah, this thing dragged and helped back into this cave.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just dropped these, you know, these moves hunters in Alaska are on the can of the drop.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there was a
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... a big big sorrow pod seen by native american group in northern canada up by i think great slave lake uh... which are would be the slavy indians uh... are native americans where they drew it i mean this is like eighteen or nineteen like ten's or twelve something like that and they drew like how a kid would draw
[SPEAKER_03]: and they said it came out of the mountain, and it was walking around, and it made some really loud calls, and it got in the lake, and it's where I'm away.
[SPEAKER_03]: They only seen it one time, they could just visit, you know, it's, so I kind of fall into that idea with some of these things being one off time slips.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because a lot of them are just they're strange and like there's nothing in the fossil record that can explain them that we know of at least that we So, you know, for all we know it's not just from past Have you there's this there's this show it was it was from it was in the like 2000s probably was full or people
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that is a that's a favorite of mine and I think that that's kind of I kind of get with that theory for some of these things where it was was at the giant the bats right that was the predator X from the future was a bat relative But yeah, I mean like a Moses or and you know and are through a plural comes through and like we talked about we one of our first talks we ever did was on the
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the first way ever did was the Arkansas giant killer centipede which did not hurt anybody that did not attack it first Like the kids it bit or beating it with a stick and the guy at attack shot it
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just putting that out there is a lot of these really scary cryptids.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the story a lot of times, but basically it was like described as a giant Arthur Plur, you know, 10 feet long at huge and it was scavenging the most of the time, which is Arthur Plur is, and I don't know, is an 8 to 10 foot long millipedes centipede ancestor.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was not either.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, you know, before they really split off.
[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of depictions describe it as a herbivore.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that may not be very true because it was both, you know, millipedes, modern day millipedes, our decomposers and herbivores, modern day synopedes are either scavengers or active predators.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this was an ancestor to both.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it could make sense that it may have been a little bit of everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Arthur Pler was, it was, I mean, in earlier conditions, like walking with dinosaurs, or walking with monsters, in that case, renditions, it would be, you know, like a, it would eat dead wood and moss and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for something that large, I would have to think that it would need some sort of protein more constantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, especially since it's an Arthur pod, like they don't get that big.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was probably, it would probably
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that is a lot of calcium for that act of skeleton to make.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that is a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I mean, I don't think it would pass up a free meal.
[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of the encounters with the Arkansas drink killer centipede were around dead animal slash roadkill.
[SPEAKER_03]: and where the animal didn't kill it itself, but it was actively taking advantage of a freemail.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a freemail, why not?
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it would defend itself, like the big one where it raised up at the Bellhunter because it was trying to look intimidating.
[SPEAKER_03]: And once he backed away, it grabbed the deer and kept back in a way into a hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: Never wanted to fight, never wanted to do anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think time slips.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that we're on this idea,
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think would be this scariest meaning really like prehistoric life?
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think would be one of the scariest things to come through a time portal?
[SPEAKER_03]: You're in the woods, the primeval time portal opens up.
[SPEAKER_03]: What comes through that you're like, that'd be the worst thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it depends, because like, I mean, I love prime evil, but it's renditions of things are way too aggressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything that comes to them was a monster.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I appreciate, like, okay, this thing is freaked the heck out, so it's probably not all that excited about interacting with creatures that doesn't know exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, it's hard to say, because there are some creatures that are just stupidly large, you know, whether that be predators or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, I can't imagine coming face-to-face with like giganotosaurus or T-rex or something like that would be all that great, all that exciting,
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, there's, you know, more subtle things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, would it be, would it be freakier to, you know, come face to face with, with a spline of sororous, or catch something off the spline of sororous, you don't have a, you know, a vaccine for, because it hasn't, the disease has existed for 100 million years, you know, that sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I think it's those more subtle things, because a lot of the bigger things are probably more manageable than, than we would give them credit for.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can hide from a therapist like a big one, you know, like, I mean, it's your ex could burst to the house, but Yeah, if you're generally if you're in a building, you're gonna know it's there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mmm, gosh, I think like really most of those creatures there's whenever you think about them as realistic animals There's no reason for them to go after you unless they are truly and honestly That desperate for food, which it's pretty unlikely that would probably just scavenge first Like that's usually what that's usually what what big animals do whenever they're in an unfamiliar habitat They're they're not lashing out at things.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to be you know low key and and and
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't you realize the time portal makes them crazy?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the electromagnetic field of the portal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It fries the brain definitely.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's short face bare for me personally because they were so active actively hunting humans.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we have a couple cave systems that we found sort of face bare dense preserved and where it's just crushed human skulls.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they liked eating us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, that's that's something too because the more recent animal would know what a human is even if they have clothes on they would know what a human is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're like, I know that's how these ones smell a lot fatter than the ones I'm used to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: These guys aren't carrying spears and they're at least twice as heavy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: These guys might be easy picking.
[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be like going from a wild turkey to a domestic turkey.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a big bird.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, something that can get to you, like you said, like, giganautosaurus or T-Rax or something would be absolutely terrifying, but
[SPEAKER_03]: They're huge, like that's a 40 foot long 20 foot tall animal.
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly with how large they are, you, I mean, I'm not saying everyone because you just been pretty fit to do this, but you might be able to like outrun them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, with how large they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we may be small enough not to be worth the effort.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in their time, you can think about this, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: In their time, the smell of mammal means something the size of a graph.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, rat a score.
[SPEAKER_02]: So especially with those, those really large apex predators, they're not focusing as much on site.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that, I mean, T-Rex has really good eyesight.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're based on the shape of the eye sockets in the way that connects to the brain case and stuff like it's, they would have had excellent eyesight, but those types of big predators would have primarily been focusing on smell.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you don't factory chambers like a size of me,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so if you take something from a time where mammals were no bigger than a cat, like the largest thing is the size of a cat, they're not going to be going after things that smell like mammals.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be looking for things that smell like they're prey, at least at first.
[SPEAKER_02]: They probably will probably figure it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you get hungry, you get hungry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the only thing I can think for against it,
[SPEAKER_03]: if they're nest Raiders or mammals, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then seek us out to destroy us.
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you that that I would I would love to see like a dreadnautic as an arduous source like a hundred and ten feet for everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've talked about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to show a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, a super semisaurus, Dradnoticus, Argentinusaurus, 80 to 100 feet tall by some estimates.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our grain elevators around are 100 feet tall.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I could imagine a herd of 100 individuals that are 100 feet tall and, you know, 200 tons walking around.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to imagine how lush that world had to have been though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because like, you got to dread notists or a patagon or an Argentine assaurus or something that stupidly absurdly large on four legs walking around eating plants, you need like a central park's worth of food a day to supply something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, especially because they're heard animals like they could scour a continent in months, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So just imagine like the oxygen levels were higher.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so much warmer.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's seen because that's another thing too that would impact the creature like if they were going to, you know, don't, don't, don't into our world.
[SPEAKER_02]: right, they like would they be able to sustain themselves even?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because not only are the huge herbivores low on food in our world, especially digestible food, because a lot of the plants that exist now didn't exist prevalent in their time, especially flowering plants for like the Jurassic Giants, but the predators too are used to that big of food.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like would a pack of alasores be able to, you know, get used to the fact that they're not going to have deploticists to chase after, right, or something like that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to bring them all back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would be this you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't tell you I've made seven movies about how that's a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can I'm fine with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, if I ever win the lottery, I won't tell anybody, but they'll be signs in the first one would be an Argentinist source in the front yard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, I just he gets four hundred and seventy
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get to send my truckloads a day form.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's see.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess what is a cryptid because we're almost at a time for tonight, but what is a cryptid that you think are a cryptid creature or, you know, these paranormal entities, because we've talked to not our show for everybody at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's a couple of things that kind of
[SPEAKER_03]: The modern-day definition of cryptid is not the biological term of cryptid that Iventy standards in and uh, but I don't know who will mean kind of founded it to me now, you know, now we have it where like the dog man is more of a probably a paranormal entity.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know, at least from some of the stories we've had and encountered with and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not a true flesh and blood, you know, a Malcolm, it's more of an amalgamation of things, but what's one of the, what one freaks you out the most?
[SPEAKER_03]: What one would you not want to run into?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, I mean, there are some pretty nasty ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: See, the the problem is like, horror doesn't really get me.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, I find it more fascinating than, then, you know, freaky.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but I'm in a real life scenario that would be different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I don't know, because like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not going to do well against the way to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's mine.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's always mine is because I fish a lot and I go up to the U.P.
[SPEAKER_03]: and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where like that stuff, like will it, Elgonquins were, and they were talking about these things.
[SPEAKER_03]: And for, I almost got frosted by this literally this last week and before recording this, there were ice fishing and I almost got frostbite for the first time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've been really cold.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was only like negative 12 or 13 where we were.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been to negative like 35 where chunk of my hair froze off.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you are just out there by yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I've been in forest out there going to fish where a mammoth could be 20 feet away from you in this woods and you would never know what is so dense.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then hearing something say your name
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you're by yourself, it's cold, it's horrible, it's been in two blizzards up to air ice fish and the one we got lost on the lake, we could not find the shore.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was horrible because it's you know, it was a white out and we're driving for a while They're just trying to find out where we're going and when you can see land marks and your phone doesn't work They're like it's basically being in a white desert You know being eight or nine miles out of the lake And that was horrible and then imagine just hearing something like
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, whisper trying to lure you deeper.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be, again, and then this, the tortured spirit aspect with the elk.
[SPEAKER_03]: When's talking about it?
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a creature of taboo and gluttony and rage and violence.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no reasoning.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all melted away.
[SPEAKER_03]: When skin walkers are, you know, still shumistic people, there's still a brain in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, when to go behind you, I think a perfect example, it just teeth in rage.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's what, I mean, that's what they are, you know, they just think gone skeletal monsters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're there, there are things of psychological supernatural and physical terror.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gosh, that thing, if you just, that came out of the snow at you, it's just over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... wouldn't what documentary is he from where do you guys go for that uh... well we did okay so he's uh... season two episode one a man eating madness uh... i i call it that because that was that was something at most of the like pretty much everything that he do is improv i don't do i don't do scripts all that often uh... which surprises me sometimes uh...
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but we were on location we it was it was part of that that great lake strip.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we went to J Cook State Forest in in it was outside of Duluth in Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was we
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to go to like, Voyager or, you know, like, Lake Windigo or something like that but that was way too far into Minnesota for, or, that's after the capacity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that would have been really cool though.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, I mean, the place is really neat, like you can, you can see it in the episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, like, really nice craggy rocks on the river and it's, it's a really scenic place.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I was there talking about the Windigo and I said, I'm man-eating madness.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had to go walk off from the camera so I wouldn't laugh and he wouldn't hear that's happened more than once I have a catch phrase we may never know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I I'll put at the end of what I'm saying I'll pose a question and say we may not verno and the first time or the second time I said that I was in the alien I was so the fourth episode My dad had to leave He had to go in yeah to go sit in the car and just wait
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's fun whenever the happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, the second location on that window go segment of the Great Lakes trip, we went to Windigo Lake in Wisconsin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I forget exactly where in Wisconsin.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like East Central North-ish.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was between there and Rhinelander.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it's it's not directly related to the window go but there's uh there's uh uh there was like a an Ojibwe warrior that fought there and like eight the heart of one of the guys he killed and after that he was known as window go uh that that was one of his names uh and like the lake has like we went to the we went to the beach of the lake and like the water's red from the mercury in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh really?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and there's like, there's like posts, uh, there's signs and stuff everywhere like don't swim in the water because you'll get mercury poisoning, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so that's because there have been some sightings of the wind to go around it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So some people think that it might not have been the wind to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: It might have just been the fact that everyone was hallucinating from the mercury poisoning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they all got to have a water with literally like the water was literally like this like vermillion red color and they were I mean they were fish in it the fish didn't care, but yes, like that's not swimming water, gosh, I think it wasn't yeah men had her disease was mercury, yeah, yeah, yeah, they would they would treat the they would treat the hide that they used to make the hats or the beaver that they used to make the hats
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we're actually we're we're soon to release a second when to go episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, if if if if the audience is familiar with Jason, he'll let he's worked with small town monsters a few times he he did he did cursed waters the their Ogapogo thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, for our Ogapogo episode, it was I think it was season two episode five, the spirit of Lake Ogang and we, uh,
[SPEAKER_02]: We interviewed Jason Hewlett and then Eli Watson, because they both created the documentary and then Jason Hewlett wrote his book about the Ogapogo that went along with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We met them at Monster Fest and I got back in touch with them and we did interviews with them and then we did an Ogapogo episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, he just recently, Jason just recently released a book, Heart of Ice, tracking the window go, and then he released a documentary in YouTube, tracking the window go, where he was doing, he was doing investigations in Canada in Alberta, about the window go.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was, it's really interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can find that documentary on YouTube as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think small-time months is released that one on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a small-time months documentary, but I think they pushed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um
[SPEAKER_02]: But we were watching that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been wanting to do another window go episode because I feel like there's more to talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of covered the story at the basic story fairly well in the first episode, but I wanted to do more because I like the window go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was trying to figure out how to do that, like how to justify that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I saw the documentary is like, I'm going to get back in touch with Jason.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was the same week I talked to you actually about atmospheric creatures in your book.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was that same week, I interviewed Jason, and he's very, very, like, cogent and, like, tight with his interviews.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he said that he's, he's been talking about it so much, he like knows what to say, even without the questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, it was, it was pretty, it was pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that'll be released at some point, like a few weeks after the atmospheric creatures episode, of a big first episode of season three.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really appreciate it.
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