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[SPEAKER_06]: You were, you were already awake and probably out walking already at that point.
[SPEAKER_08]: I wasn't walking.
[SPEAKER_08]: I was going to Stephanie's.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's kind of for good.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't get to walk on Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's Tuesdays.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, my brain's thinking I'm like, we're just early.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no, because you had to Stephanie's.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, when it, when did you hear about, uh, before I left?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just, I get it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he had a lot of years and he had a lot of health problems.
[SPEAKER_06]: still.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you, you hate to see it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, at the same time, I mean, you're, I'm glad for all the, all the things he did.
[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_06]: There is, there's a lot, we, we have a few pieces in the news on Tap today, but there's a lot to talk about with that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And a lot to talk about, kind of overflow from yesterday about
[SPEAKER_06]: What President Obama was saying about what the Democratic Party needs to do, and what the Democratic Party did and has done, and did in large part because of River Jackson.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he's...
[SPEAKER_06]: I got to meet a well kind of sort of he came to my high school.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I remember I said junior high high school.
[SPEAKER_06]: I went six years because that's what it was 7th through 12.
[SPEAKER_06]: And in his 88 campaign he came to like an East high school who and did a campaign speech.
[SPEAKER_06]: Biggest Jim.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, and of course he had to go to have a line and he knew he was shake everybody's freaking hand, you know, very, very similar like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Very charismatic, very nice guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, other than, you know, being that distant
[SPEAKER_06]: She can's distance.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's great, you know, letting talk to him, obviously.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the hell I would have been, you know, junior high school, whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember what year is a six, whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, 88 88.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's here.
[SPEAKER_08]: I graduated college.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I was not that old yet, but, um, I mean,
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, the the the man made a big impression on the Democratic party.
[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely, but it's interesting seeing some of the stuff that's come out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, you know, these days, I'm not a big fan of of Washington Post.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think you are really either.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: But Karen Timulti, who she's been a good writer and editor, she used to be at the L.A. Times back in the day.
[SPEAKER_06]: She, I don't think, I don't know if she's still with Washington Post.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think she's one of the ones that decammed.
[SPEAKER_06]: But she's got, she got a piece that's still in there in the Washington Post and she gave a gift link.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we gave that to everybody talks about how basically the quiet racism and the centrist bias of the Democratic Party were against Jesse Jackson in the 80s.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And because of the things he did, it changed a lot of what the Democratic Party has become.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think for the better, um, uh, Rev Sharp in this morning, uh, saw him, I think it was after morning Joe, um, was talking about this morning.
[SPEAKER_06]: How, um, if Jesse Jackson hadn't changed
[SPEAKER_06]: because of of what he had he had like a thousand delegates in nineteen eight yeah it's close he got the several states yet i mean certain things have gone a different way he easily could have been the nominee back in eighty eight but because of what he did that delegate process a change so when baracobama
[SPEAKER_06]: came in 2008, that process significantly benefited him before that it was basically aimed really heavily to white male centers.
[SPEAKER_08]: You mean the super delicate?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, pretty much.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, they still exist.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's why people bitch and moan about them, but they don't any more vote on their vote with the other delegates now.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's, I mean, there are other things.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are still ways that we can improve the party.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are ways that we can improve the country.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the fact that, I mean, Jesse Jackson significantly moved the Democratic party towards
[SPEAKER_06]: Towards the places that I think it should be going that he thought it should have been going ages ago Was just racism in centers.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's also classism.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah Jesse Jackson when he joined Martin Luther King Jr. One of the big reasons that he joined him was because of the You know Jesse was a working guy
[SPEAKER_06]: And he sided with workmen and he always said that he didn't understand why more working white people did not sided with the Democratic Party and didn't side with other minorities didn't side with women because he had so much in common with them.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think his 1988 speech that he gave the DNC.
[SPEAKER_03]: really the the the the the end of it is it's the perfect distillation of his beliefs on that I got to hear the DVR let let me play this here every one of these funny labels they put on you those of you who are watching this broadcast tonight in the projects on the corners I understand call your outcast low down you can make it you're nothing you're from nobody
[SPEAKER_03]: subclass on the class when you see Jesuit Jackson with my name golden nomination your name golden nomination I was born in the slum for the slum was not born in me and the one born in you and you can make it wherever you are tonight you can make it for your head high stick
[SPEAKER_03]: It gets dark sometimes, but the moon and clouds, don't you surrender?
[SPEAKER_03]: Cyphering grease, character, character grease, faith in the end, faith will not disappoint.
[SPEAKER_03]: You must not surrender.
[SPEAKER_03]: You may or may not get there, but just know that you're qualified, and you hold on.
[SPEAKER_03]: And hold on.
[SPEAKER_03]: We must never surrender.
[SPEAKER_03]: America will get better and better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep hope alive, keep hope alive, old tomorrow night, and the young.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep hope alive.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love you very much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love you very much.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That makes me tear up still.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's...
[SPEAKER_06]: When people believe in you, it matters, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, people go, oh, you're white.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I go, gab, but so the school I went to.
[SPEAKER_06]: The school that I saw Jesse Jackson had had a lot of wealthy people.
[SPEAKER_06]: I told you about this.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, people who, oh, they, they got a new portion this week.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because they crashed their old one last week.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mommy and Daddy bought it for us.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's so gross.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, I went to school with them, or those.
[SPEAKER_06]: But toted I figured you probably did.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was, you know, my family, as I came up through school, the younger I was, the better we were doing financially.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then because of the, some of the crashes and stuff in the 80s, and we didn't, I mean, my parents barely had a lot of that house for three years.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: So those comments, those slurs.
[SPEAKER_06]: that he was talking about there.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't just throw those at black people around people.
[SPEAKER_06]: They throw up poor people too.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_06]: They throw up people who they think are economically beneath them.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I know because I heard them.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it is, he's one of those people I was always like, man, he's talking to me, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know?
[SPEAKER_06]: So I like Jesse Jackson.
[SPEAKER_06]: I understood that sometimes he seemed a bit abrasive.
[SPEAKER_06]: I can't remember where I read this, but Martin Luther King even thought he was a little bit abrasive sometimes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thought he was like, you know, you need to be, you need to learn to be a little bit more polished, which obviously over time, Jesse Jackson got more polished.
[SPEAKER_06]: But especially as a young man, he said, you're a little abrasive, a little bit sharp.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think we all are that way pretty much when we're younger.
[SPEAKER_06]: But man, the things that Reverend Jackson did and the way that he pushed the Democratic Party and the way that he pushed, you know, even young people like me, to be like, you know, you can do this.
[SPEAKER_06]: And those people say you can't screw them, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, cool, there's a black man in my high school saying that he's running for president and that he could do, I can do it too, well, hell.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so it's, I, I don't think everybody always understands that when you have a leader, brown, black, Asian Native American woman, some of the disabilities.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't just speak for those people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are other people who are in the quote unquote mainstream.
[SPEAKER_06]: And who feel oppressed.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you know, hey, man, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're speaking to me, too, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Especially economically, especially how that ties in.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it helps people go away in a minute.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm standing here in a coalition with a whole bunch of people who don't look like me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't have the same background.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we all believe some of the same things.
[SPEAKER_06]: We all believe that everybody should be fair and treated decently.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's kind of nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I appreciate what Reverend Jackson did for all of us.
[SPEAKER_06]: One of those kind of things.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's just, it's sad to see he's gone, but I think there's a really good piece there.
[SPEAKER_06]: We got from MS now, right by the name of Keisha Blaine.
[SPEAKER_06]: He wrote, why Jesse Jackson's push to keep hope alive is more important now than ever.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I definitely think it's something you should read, folks, because it's, look, hey, hope is not weak.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hope is strong.
[SPEAKER_06]: So anyway, sorry for starting to start in the evening that way just kind of, you know, but it's it's important and and I think yeah that there's been depending on where you turn today obviously MS now had more of it obviously if you're listening on series next time to the progress channel, they were talking more about you go over CNN's a little bit less.
[SPEAKER_06]: You go over to some of the other news streamers out there.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's even last course.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure Fox did.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, then Donald just made it all about himself.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, of course.
[SPEAKER_06]: He always does, you know, playing crashes 200 people die and Donald goes, but what about me?
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, he claimed that they were friends and he helped him out and all the stuff.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, he would deny it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Hang on.
[SPEAKER_08]: Housing.
[SPEAKER_06]: So.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: You are 100% correct.
[SPEAKER_06]: By the friends.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean.
[SPEAKER_06]: Jesse Jackson could be friends with anybody depends on how your your definition of friendship is, but but Jesse Jackson would be civil to anybody.
[SPEAKER_06]: Even people who dropped the inward on him and treated him like trash, especially as he got older and he learned how to be more.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's sort of diplomatic?
[SPEAKER_06]: He was a great diplomat, by the way.
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, you know,
[SPEAKER_06]: For his part, I'm sure that Jesse Jackson just was kind and his decent Donald Trump Bessie was to every damn other person because that's just how Jesse Jackson was.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, do I think that he actually thought of Trump as a friend?
[SPEAKER_06]: Probably not.
[SPEAKER_08]: Donald claimed that he rented some off of what gave.
[SPEAKER_06]: office space to game because we know he wouldn't have rented to Jesse Jackson.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like even if whatever the rainbow coalition or whatever it was that was using office space in a building that Donald owned, it's not like he gave them the office space.
[SPEAKER_06]: He would have rented this, you know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly, Jody's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, there is a whole lot more news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have a fantastic guest coming in by the way You guys know her.
[SPEAKER_06]: Jojo from Jerry's Joe Carducci coming in a little bit later We have a very great trick as well at least that's what I've been told to say We'll talk about that later fresh a year drink and come on back.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Post, he said, he always enjoyed the great conversations Brother Sean and Sister Jody.
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't know we were people of the cloth, but I don't know, well, that's drawn about that later than we.
[SPEAKER_06]: But he says, the only way I see him are current state of chaos is if more of the media sources mainstream media sources start telling their audience to give Democrats a veto-proof majority in both houses.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All right, we agree, Tom, we can, we can take your suggestion on that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: By the way, speaking to that in the second round of the news on tap under the Trump's war and democracy.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Senate Republican leader John Thun says he is guaranteeing a vote on the voter ID bill, the Save Act.
[SPEAKER_06]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_08]: things you think he's doing.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's dumb.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's it's just he's going to try to say that Democrats want anybody to vote that doesn't have the right to vote.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like no already you have to prove that you are allowed to vote when you register.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's already the law.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's right already the law.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I gave you the story about the mayor in Kansas town.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: We didn't get that one in there, but yeah, but that's that's been going.
[SPEAKER_06]: They've been talking about that that mayor.
[SPEAKER_06]: He is he was born in Mexico.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's a mayor in a Kansas town.
[SPEAKER_06]: This story has come up.
[SPEAKER_06]: about once a month every month since like last August or July or whatever it was when they started because ice was like we're going to go after him and all the Kansas people are like no and some people were surprised this here's a it's it's in Kansas too but this is kind of a Midwest thing I know it's in Nebraska somewhat in some corners of Iowa you'll definitely see it in Minnesota remember I've told you about the town anything before oh yeah how
[SPEAKER_06]: People won't understand it, but so you go to some small town, especially in the Midwest.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know this because this is an Nebraska thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: She go to a small town and there's one black guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's call him Frank and his family.
[SPEAKER_06]: Say Frank is the town barber and when Frank is there, they will never use the end word.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you come in from outside the town and use the end word to talk about Frank and his family, they will beat the crap out of you.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if Frank is not in the current discussion, he is somewhere else in town, and they are talking about Frank, there are people who will freely drop the end word.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: and you go to them he's a town he's one of us right versus one of them and if you're from outside the town and you say that you can't say that because you're a them you're not an us well the thing is is what happened was he he's he was the legal res permanent resident so he was legally here after a certain period because he moved here when he's four and then he was he worked for the city council he's like a good guy and when it was
[SPEAKER_08]: Right, when he was 18, they were at this thing and they said, do you want to register to vote?
[SPEAKER_08]: So he said, sure, not knowing that he was not allowed to do that, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: And so then he voted for many years, obviously.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so when he went to go get his citizenship, finally, they, one of the questions they asked could be ever voted.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_08]: And when he said, yeah, they went, oh.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: and now we have to report you because you've illegally voted and he had no he didn't know which is ignorance of the law is not an excuse to break it but still it's not it wasn't on purpose he just is like I thought because I'm a legal resident that I'm allowed to vote well and this is one of the whole things of of our stupid asset immigration system that needs to be fixed this is one of the things that Reverend Jackson was always about is we can fix these systems that we have but we just have to have the will to do it
[SPEAKER_06]: the same after the way we would not fix anything with the mind and it will disenfranchise more red state people thank you exactly you were mentioned in that yesterday to be dd that it's it's especially now if they go after him like this by the way uh... speaking of people who shouldn't have anything to do with the elections uh... a twenty twenty election denier
[SPEAKER_06]: is actually wrote part of the same act.
[SPEAKER_08]: Of course he did.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you're an election in iron, you shouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with the elections because you are already.
[SPEAKER_06]: You've done something illegal with elections now.
[SPEAKER_06]: You should have no part in anything including legislation.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry, but you screwed the pooch on that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's you.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a way.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thun wants to basically promote the idea that Democrats want.
[SPEAKER_08]: undocumented people to be able to vote, which is not what it's about.
[SPEAKER_08]: In fact, Lisa McCowsky's against the save act.
[SPEAKER_08]: Hi, Republican.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, independent.
[SPEAKER_08]: So as Mitch McConnell, I mean, they know, especially Mitch McConnell, because in Kentucky, I bet at least half the residents don't have passports.
[SPEAKER_08]: let alone teeth.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm fortunate.
[SPEAKER_08]: Most people in this country don't have a passport because we don't leave our, right, general areas.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because we are a very large geographically wide, geographically, well, I mean, even if you live in St. Louisiana or Texas or New Mexico or Arizona, California, not a lot of us go down a Mexico and it's right there.
[SPEAKER_08]: And if you live in the northern parts of the country, not a lot of us go to Canada, even though it's right there, we just don't tend to leave our country.
[SPEAKER_08]: Generally, you know, I have a passport.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm thinking of getting a passport card.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just put it in my wallet compared to Europe where they go Everywhere who as I said is is moving there He got freaked out when he lived there the first time and that in a bad way in a good way because he's like dude I went to like nine countries today.
[SPEAKER_06]: So what do you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: He said oh, I wrote the train.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean That's the
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you're like, okay, cool, whatever, but that's, you know, he's, he's, he's traveled a lot.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's traveled a China.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's been, my, my next youngest brother's been around the world in a number of places.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he says it's kind of like in the East Coast.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, if you have a North East up here, I mean, yeah, you go from DC up the whole, you can support our back down, yeah, right exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, that's, that's a lot like Europe.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, obviously, in places like that, it pays to have a
[SPEAKER_06]: But yes, there's a lot of expanses of the United States, especially the further West you go where, I mean, California, Hugh J.
[SPEAKER_06]: State, Texas, Hugh J.
[SPEAKER_06]: State, Nebraska side decide east of west is a huge estate.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you know, if you're driving the speed limit, not saying that every other does, but if you're driving the speed limit, it's, it's a while.
[SPEAKER_08]: It takes a minute to get through in Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've driven through it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah, yeah, if you're going, if you're going from the south east corner to the north west corner, that's easily 10 hours if you're going to.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I went, I went from Denver to Minneapolis.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah, go through 80.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's, I, I, I get that if somebody,
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, they didn't know when they were brought here when they were young, they go about doing things like everybody else.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that mayor, I mean, he's, you know, I think that I've read about it is perfectly fine.
[SPEAKER_08]: And everybody in the town, I mean, it's a small, Tina Tannen, little town, and Kansas, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I mean, it's like a couple hundred people.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not a big town, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: Or like everybody knows very, everybody knows him.
[SPEAKER_08]: They all like him.
[SPEAKER_08]: He's resigned from being the mayor because of this problem.
[SPEAKER_08]: And everybody in the town is going, can't we just find him?
[SPEAKER_08]: Why do you want to just deport him to a country hasn't been in 50 years ask Steven Miller and that's that high that town will not and he voted for Trump this mayor Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's again all the voter fraud is people devoted for Trump
[SPEAKER_06]: So far, did the overwhelming amount of it, but thankfully, we are keeping on fighting.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like Reverend Jackson said, so good example today, federal judge ruled Kilmar or
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, they, they do have a problem with that, but we do know there is going to be accountability for those people who are not following the law.
[SPEAKER_06]: We know that, but the reason, by the way, that they did not, or that this, this came down with Kim Margo Garcia, is the fact that they don't really have a way to deport him.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't have a legitimate method of deportation for him.
[SPEAKER_06]: So they're like, oh, what do we do?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, among other things, you leave Malone right now as basically with the court says.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't, there's some right-wing jackass who is suggesting that we, I didn't even get any further than like the first paragraph and just got so frustrated I threw it out.
[SPEAKER_06]: But didn't pay attention to it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the Trump regime right now has no legitimate revival plan for deporting Camaro Brago Garcia because they can't deport him because he's here legally.
[SPEAKER_06]: this right wing idiot wants to deport Native Americans to wear exam somebody running in Texas that wants to do that it's like yeah I think that's I think that's a story to do to which I'm like um they were here before you white men i mean if they live on if they live in a tribe they're already on sovereign land so they're already quote deported unquote but also also they've been here
[SPEAKER_06]: way longer than we have if we're going to have that argument then you better pack up your bags white man and head to Europe because yeah wherever you your ancestry comes from pick a pick a country exactly so I the immigration wars are going to continue Minnesota officials have confirmed the Trump FBI is still refusing to share Alex predies evidence which
[SPEAKER_06]: that's because it's it probably points to the ice agents doing something wrong or the cpb agents because they were cpb in that ice yeah look i i can guarantee and of course it would contradict Donald Trump that oh they can't have that oh there's there's there's a lot of there's a lot of things that still need fixing but that's one of the things that if you
[SPEAKER_06]: from what Democrats are doing, what Jesse Jackson kept doing.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you guys know, a big fan of Elizabeth Warren, she's always, you know, well, you know, you go as far as you can, you stop, you come back and keep going for more.
[SPEAKER_06]: That applies to a lot of things and it applies to fixing things too.
[SPEAKER_06]: That applies to fixing our immigration systems and applies to fighting off the monsters you wanted to destroy our election systems.
[SPEAKER_06]: It applies to economics, it applies, I mean, the idea of just giving up.
[SPEAKER_06]: we don't give up.
[SPEAKER_06]: We don't surrender.
[SPEAKER_06]: We don't do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, any who I will get more information obviously more stuff on the the immigration stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll talk more about that obviously with Joe and she gets here a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Trumpstein files, I was nice for the purposes of Google and searching and put Trump Epstein, but we can still call the Trumpstein.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's what I'm going.
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: And with that new Mexico has approved a comprehensive probe of Epstein's Zoro Ranch.
[SPEAKER_08]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I figured you'd be pretty happy about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that look.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's there.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're literally and figuratively are probably going to be a whole lot more bodies unburied.
[SPEAKER_06]: a whole lot more skeletons coming out of the closet and Hillary Clinton.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad that she finally stepped up on this too.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's she's being a lot less quiet and I hope she continues to be Sam's quiet.
[SPEAKER_06]: She is accused Trump and his administration of an Epstein files cover up in a brand new BBC interview that we have linked Yes, you can get through the paywall by checking our link it is in the news on tap today
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and it's still that the the Trumpstein files are still hitting people Tom Pritzker.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Relative to J.
[SPEAKER_06]: B. Um, he has he's hiding a step down.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a executive chairman, which I'm like.
[SPEAKER_06]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_08]: He did the right thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: your mayor L.A. Mayor Karen is also going the right thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I'm so glad she did this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been wanting to do this.
[SPEAKER_08]: She has no control over him being on the committee, but at least she finally came out and said, go, bye-bye.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Casey Wasserman, who was an entertainment lawyer, basically, as a firm.
[SPEAKER_06]: And a lot of his clients have been stepping down, stepping away from him.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's been the head of the L.A. 28 Olympic committee, and he's in the Epstein Files and some not so great ways.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Karen Bass, L.A. Mayor, who has been here in the bar, says he needs to go bye-bye.
[SPEAKER_08]: And she can't, she can't fire him.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not her purview to do it.
[SPEAKER_08]: But I'm glad she finally said, you know what, he should not be involved in this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I'm glad.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, this is how this stuff works, guys.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got to take a step, you got to take a stand.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got to say, this person should not be there.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got to say, like Hillary did.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry, but I think they're covering this crap up.
[SPEAKER_06]: You step out, you say it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And some people are like, who you get scared?
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I,
[SPEAKER_06]: Reverend Jackson is on my mind today, so I bring him up a lot, but there's an interview I saw him talking about the campaigns back in the day and how he was, well, the Karen Tomlty piece actually goes and talks about it too, how a lot of the, what we think of as cowardly Democrat, scared centrist.
[SPEAKER_06]: He'd talk about some of these things about how we needed to to tax the rich and how we needed to open up opportunities for women and for minorities.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, by God, if you're going to upset somebody, those are the things to upset people about you know the inequality yeah let's let's upset people because things are on any they are in equal on equal and let's fix that and if that upset somebody well too often bad and if this if the the.
[SPEAKER_08]: income gap and the wealth gap continues like it has been there gonna be a lot more of this this is what it's partially started the revolutionary war people Yep authoritarianism and income gap right inequality and authoritarianism literally go hand in hand Joe he's a hundred percent correct y'all so this is
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, this is why you have great leaders wherever in Jackson was one of those.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, you have to have great staff though, and I believe you're cats or staff.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, no, they're not staff.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, you're staff to them.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm staff to them.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Tom says here, happy cat day, although my feline masters would argue that every day is cat.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then he sent a sentalons and pictures of his bosses, I mean, cats Charlie, the Marmalade, Claire, the Tuxie with the nose blaze and Toby.
[SPEAKER_06]: You were saying that that's a time to talk with you and said that there he was a foster fail.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he and his wife Peggy.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think they were just going to foster the three and then they just
[SPEAKER_08]: They failed.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which I mean, it's a good fail, obviously.
[SPEAKER_08]: It happens a lot.
[SPEAKER_08]: Especially if it's your first time fostering, it'll happen.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then, well, it's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: But so obviously, today is WorldCat Day.
[SPEAKER_06]: We know that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tom, for letting everybody know.
[SPEAKER_06]: We appreciate that as well.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_08]: Now, granted, there are two other cat days.
[SPEAKER_08]: There's International Cat Day on August 8th.
[SPEAKER_08]: The National Cat Day in the US on October 29th.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is WorldCat Day.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, we've had Cat, I would because they only hear every day for her as cat day.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just just saying there are other cat days and other cool cats as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: But what to to celebrate World Cat Day?
[SPEAKER_06]: What is our drink of the day?
[SPEAKER_08]: It's called a Martinez cocktail.
[SPEAKER_06]: I had to look this up because I'm like, what is a Martina's cocktail have to do with world cat day?
[SPEAKER_06]: There is a reason for it.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've got it in the drink of the day to have the politics bar.com.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we've got some other great facts about that as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: Your cats, they're all, I mean, the two of them, they're both indoor cats, like indoor cats, your whole life, okay, I tend to think that cats these days should be indoor cats.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just safer for everybody, for them, for, for, for, I mean, cats are great if you need natural, natural predator to get rid of rats and mice and things like that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right, but like here in Los Angeles, they tent like the we had a cat that moved in with us, not boo boo, but this other one was a female orange tabby, which is rare and we called her Morris because duh and because I grew up in the 70s and she was just coming our doggy door announced to the house that she was in the house and cuddle and then leave around three in the morning.
[SPEAKER_08]: and she we couldn't feed her she was she was ferrell i mean she i've watched her kill them house i watched her do it so she she didn't necessarily like but she just like your companions she loves coming in and she loved living with us basically and for like six months she was gone and i was like oh oh and then she came back and she had basically been captured by animal control and they fixed her
[SPEAKER_08]: and then they released her back and in the neighborhood and that's what they do to keep the ferrocat population down they'll fix them and then they'll release them back because they do keep a lot of the rats and the mice and things but the problem is is a lot of people poison these animals and so then the cats get poisoned and owls get poisoned
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got it.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got to be careful with it.
[SPEAKER_08]: You have coyotes too in the neighborhood side.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you've got a story in here in the drink of the day today about how's her the great.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: She looks at too.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she looks like she could, you know, zapped a bunch.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's a badass.
[SPEAKER_06]: Lived at Scotland's oldest working distillery, the Glen turret distilleries.
[SPEAKER_06]: She was 63 to 80.
[SPEAKER_06]: She was 24 when she died.
[SPEAKER_06]: And cats can live a lot longer than dogs.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's just... Yeah, my old boss, her squeaker lift will choose 22.
[SPEAKER_06]: That look, I love, I love the fact that they, you know, I still say that the hardest thing about mortality is the people you love disappeared.
[SPEAKER_06]: But then again, you wouldn't want to be the only one that was immortal when everybody else around you is still mortal because I would suck too.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, she killed almost 29,000 mice in 24 years.
[SPEAKER_06]: I still don't know how they do.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm with, I'm a Lonnie on this one.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how they count on them all.
[SPEAKER_08]: But maybe as she started dropping more than like a few a day, let's start counting these.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, oftentimes, you know, when the cats do that, they drop it off, but it's pleasant for you to look how nice.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah, I mean, that's what it is to give.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you gotta, you exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Take it in the spirit to which it was offered.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a gift.
[SPEAKER_08]: Don't, don't be, don't go, no, don't do that.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, they're, they're presenting to you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't give cat in the mouth.
[SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's how that free.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, there is actually something that ties into cats' mouths, though, as part of the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, what is a Martinez cocktail have to do with cats?
[SPEAKER_06]: here it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've got this in the drink of the day as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's linked to cats because of the 18th century gin craze in England, which long-sured it has to deal with tariffs and things and they had
[SPEAKER_06]: raise the prices and then it lower the prices so gin was dirt cheap and then they oh my god too many people are getting drunk and stupid so then they try to outlaw that not thinking regulation through just slapping more on to it.
[SPEAKER_06]: What ended up happening was basically gin was somewhat somewhat not entirely outlawed but somewhat outlawed.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there's a couple different excuses as to who did it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But they put up these pictures of cats, wooden cats and doors.
[SPEAKER_06]: You would put a coin in the mouth of the cat and there was like a little funnel.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then some of you would pour gin out the funnel.
[SPEAKER_06]: And of course, the name of cats back then.
[SPEAKER_06]: They called most old black cats old Tom's.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: What kind of gin is in a Martinez cocktail?
[SPEAKER_06]: old Tom Jim it's my old Tom Jim very specific sweeter kind of a gen so that that is part of it what's what's the rest of the stuff that's in the Martinez cocktail the day.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay you're gonna need a mixing glass a shot glass some ice a pre-chilled Nick and Nora glass two ounces of Hamon's old Tom Jim.
[SPEAKER_08]: an ounce of sweet for mooth, a half ounce of lexato, maricina liqueur, two dashes of angostora bitters, and lemon twist for garnish.
[SPEAKER_08]: So you put all the ingredients in your mixing glass, you add the ice and you stir to chill, you strain it into your nicanora glass, and you express the twist over the drink and drop in as your garnish.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Show your favorite cats of love today.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can go to your kiddies because, you know, honestly, and, and, of course, you know, the joke about cats being staff, that that's one of my dad always used to say is very simply said, what is the dogs have owners, sometimes some people say dogs have family and cats have staff.
[SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_06]: See, Jody agrees with that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All right, we usually do the entertainment stuff around this time, and I am pretty geeked up as you know about the Olympic stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: USA continues the Bobsled Domination, Elena Myers-Taylor, and Kayleigh Humpfries, one gold and bronze in the Mono Bob.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the one person Bobsled.
[SPEAKER_06]: By the way, Atlanta Myers Taylor ties the records from most decorated American woman active in her Olympics with Bonnie Blair.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think she's got now six or seven, something like that and she's a black woman.
[SPEAKER_06]: So of course, Donald Trump and the other Trumpers are going to be mad about that because had air she they'll be even more mad because her little boys who are I think like 18 months old or something are deaf.
[SPEAKER_06]: maybe they're too, but they're they're little and so they were like what's going on because they can't they see all the people cheering and they had your mom had to cheer you know money one money one oh money one okay good yay what she doing standing over there she's getting her prize what she's up there also 18 months old or two years old so they're not going to understand most of it even if they were like all these people around they like okay a lot of people standing in chair and what have you know but
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I just think it's kind of cool that, you know, she's a mom.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's a mom of disabled kids, but, you know, she still brings them, it's part of the whole deal.
[SPEAKER_06]: And, and she's 41.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is her fifth Olympics.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's been busting ass trying to do this for basically what 20 years.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah, really, really kick ass.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, U.S. and Canada, uh, the, uh, they're set basically to meet for the gold, uh, for women's hockey, also for men's I believe.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'd have not checked today.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know that, uh, the, uh, women's short program was today, uh, Glenn Liu and Lovito, uh, also known as the Blade Angels were supposed to be out there today.
[SPEAKER_06]: I hope they did good.
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't check that before we came to the bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: The women's curling team lost yesterday or lost day before I think it was to Spain who hadn't won any and then they they came back with a win over Denmark, so that was pretty good and Team USA won the Olympic silver medal in men's speed skating team pursuit.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: So look, the Olympics are busy, especially as it gets towards the end of it because that's doing they're trying to just shove it all in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh crap, we didn't get this one.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, we didn't get this one.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, we got it.
[SPEAKER_06]: That one none.
[SPEAKER_06]: So
[SPEAKER_06]: metals come in hot and heavy, but I always do.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love the Olympics.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not necessarily fan of some of the media stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: One of brothers discovery is now tentatively, they're like, they're finished.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, before we sign on the dotted line with Netflix,
[SPEAKER_06]: I just, so they're dating Netflix, they decided to go steady, but they're not technically married, so they're like, hey, Paramount, do you want to, you know, once you're offered before we, you know, put a ring on it here, which I'm like, I don't think Paramount's going to get it.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think they're going to go with Netflix, I think they will too, which as bad as any merger is, it's better with Netflix than with Paramount.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, especially right now, especially given the fact of of what they did last night with Stephen Cole there.
[SPEAKER_06]: We are definitely going to talk about this with Joe, but so last night, CBS executives pulled his guest, James Talleriko.
[SPEAKER_06]: because they were afraid of Trump's FCC.
[SPEAKER_08]: And the FCC hasn't said anything yet about late night television.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not as far as I saw before we came into the bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: In fact, actually, the Democratic FCC commissioner, the one that's on the FCC, blasted CBS decision.
[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, the fair time provision no longer exists.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not even, it's not there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this idea that it kind of exists,
[SPEAKER_06]: Can you be kind of pregnant?
[SPEAKER_08]: I know.
[SPEAKER_08]: I remember in 2008, Barack Obama had like a half an hour kind of infomercial that aired on every network.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then I remember going, well, shouldn't they be airing John McCain?
[SPEAKER_08]: That's where my brain went, because as a kid, I remember that having to be a thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: They offered to McCain and McCain's campaign refused.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember that.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I mean, they didn't have to.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so at least they, at least they have to entertain the offer.
[SPEAKER_06]: The way that Brendan Carr, Brandon Carr, I know his name is Brendan.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, the fairness doctrine's gone.
[SPEAKER_08]: And that was part of the fairness doctrine.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the whole, the whole thing about them, the way that they are attempting to
[SPEAKER_06]: Calvin ball this is they're like, well, you have to get them on.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's you offer it to somebody else but plus right now it's the primary.
[SPEAKER_06]: So okay fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he they offer to Tallahoreco.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, then they have to have Jasmine crockin on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh darn.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't think they care about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: But what what the Trump FCC wanted to do is exactly what CBS is doing, which is oh, they might hit me
[SPEAKER_08]: It's right now, it's not against any sort of regulations.
[SPEAKER_08]: So just do it.
[SPEAKER_08]: And the funny thing is is because of this, Telerico has way more eyeballs on him than he would have had it just aired normally.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Streisand problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Although I can understand that Donald Trump and Steven Miller, who is really running the country, would prefer to have James Telerico as opposed to Jasmine Crocket, only because James Telerico was a white man.
[SPEAKER_06]: But also Jasmine Crockett is leading packs in at the moment, which I would I would love to see that as the general election race in Texas.
[SPEAKER_06]: By the way, we do have that in the news on tap today as well in the election land section early voting has begun in Texas.
[SPEAKER_06]: We will be talking about that more this week, including at the end of the week with Anita in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, there is more news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, a whole lot more stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: We did hit just before the break there at the top of the hour at the election land or early voting has begun in Texas primary elections.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are a lot of places where little counties, little cities, stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're going to start seeing who we're not going to announce every single one of them because the fact is they're going to come fast and furious now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: where.
[SPEAKER_06]: And as soon as these primaries are done, whatever threat that Donald Trump has again somebody disappears.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So these are Republicans who, I don't know, I'm kind of afraid, which I still don't understand being afraid.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're afraid of the, the manga monsters that Trump has control over.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, just talk to Mads three toes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: We didn't put that one in.
[SPEAKER_06]: I saw that that Trump threatened again.
[SPEAKER_06]: She got like 700 death threats.
[SPEAKER_06]: I heard something was threatened.
[SPEAKER_06]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is the crap that those of us on the left.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anybody who is in public on the left has been having to deal with for years now, for years and years and years and years and years now.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is not it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It sucks and nobody should be doing it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's not uncommon.
[SPEAKER_06]: The fact that the people like Marjorie Taylor Green are going, oh my god, you guys had to do?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, we had to deal with this because of you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Remember those old anti-drug ads?
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, where'd you learn this?
[SPEAKER_06]: I learned it from you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, now Marge is feeling that too.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's, I mean, I'm her person obviously shouldn't be threatened.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's not her son, her son shouldn't be either.
[SPEAKER_08]: She shouldn't be either, but it's like Donald Trump shouldn't even be attacking her because she is now a private citizen.
[SPEAKER_06]: She is not a member of Congress.
[SPEAKER_06]: She is not on the playing field technically.
[SPEAKER_06]: She is now sitting in the stands, just because, well, I didn't get a hit or an off when she was on a field.
[SPEAKER_08]: He blames her for the threat.
[SPEAKER_06]: What a jackass.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's such an abusive way to put something to somebody.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, if you didn't do that, there wouldn't be a problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't have to hit you, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: God, he's such a...
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just, it's, you know, it's... Makes me mad.
[SPEAKER_08]: What's interesting is, is Matt, we all knew who he was.
[SPEAKER_06]: She did, too.
[SPEAKER_08]: You did, too.
[SPEAKER_08]: You just didn't think he'd turn on you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is the 100% key.
[SPEAKER_06]: They all didn't think, well, the leper's not going to eat my face.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have less 74 than I still don't think she should be attacked.
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: Some good news in election land, more than 70,000 voters in North Carolina are staying on the roles.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you'd kept an eye on that or not.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I had.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Republican Party was trying to get these voters off some stupid small.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, they didn't do this.
[SPEAKER_06]: They didn't, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the Democrats fought them.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Democrats won.
[SPEAKER_06]: So they settled the case and basically the Democrats said, here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're not going to punch you in the face.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you leave everybody alone and let the people who registered to vote vote, I'm at that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And conveniently, Judd said, I think that's good.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I guess the Republican Party North Carolina finally went, OK.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Anderson Clayton, she's ahead of the North Carolina Democratic Party, Kudos to her and Kudos to the Democrats there, who fought the fight and kept the voters on the roles.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Although, there's a thing, check your voter registration.
[SPEAKER_06]: Vote.org, no matter where you live in the country.
[SPEAKER_06]: Check your voter registration now, because these primaries are going to be coming up.
[SPEAKER_06]: speaking of voting.
[SPEAKER_06]: We should go back up in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm error.
[SPEAKER_06]: This frustrates the thin bombs.
[SPEAKER_06]: We a lot.
[SPEAKER_06]: In Trump's war in democracy, Senate Republican leader John Thune is guaranteeing a vote on the voter ID bill.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Save America Act.
[SPEAKER_06]: We talked about it last hour.
[SPEAKER_06]: I still don't understand why he last time I heard there is and it's not 100% confirmed, but there's like five or six Republicans who would be voting against it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And every Democrat, which last time I checked that's 47 Democrats, if that's six Republicans, that's 53 and you have to get to 60.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're at 47 Republicans, you need to get to 60, you ain't getting to 60, so why put up the vote?
[SPEAKER_08]: He wants to make it look like the Democrats and whoever on the GOP side, but he won't concentrate on that the Democrats want people who shouldn't vote to be able to vote.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's what he's saying.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's his argument.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we know that his argument is bull crowd.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, and like we said earlier, with the whole, you need a passport or a birth certificate and women who have changed their names and some men who like if you're an actor, a lot of people change their names.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
[SPEAKER_08]: So if you don't have a passport in your current name, which proves your citizenship, you can't register to vote.
[SPEAKER_08]: And in some places, they're going to make it.
[SPEAKER_08]: So you have to bring it while you vote.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so it's like because a real ID won't work even though that's insane the amount of information in the group.
[SPEAKER_08]: You have to just get that, but they're basically more red state residents than blue state residents do not have passports end of statement, which means there are governors, which means the same act will actually hurt Republican more in Democrats.
[SPEAKER_08]: and a lot of democrats are going to be like fine i'm going to go do it i'm going to do a go fund me to raise the money to get my passport you know what i mean right hundred sixty five bucks or whatever it is and and and i'm i'm thinking because i have my passport i just renewed it a year or so ago not that i go anywhere i just have one um um it's had like three my old one had like three stamps in it um
[SPEAKER_08]: But I think I'm getting a passport card, which is what I recommend for those of us that are worried about getting pulled over by ICE.
[SPEAKER_08]: If it's in your wallet, you don't have to bring your whole passport if you have one.
[SPEAKER_08]: Just have a passport card put it in your wallet so you have it on you at all times.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, and they're going to have to go, I don't know if State Department has a digital version of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if some states Virginia finally has digital ID.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have a digital ID now.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have a digital version of my driver's license that some systems are able to scan it in and some are not, but they're having to get there.
[SPEAKER_06]: They'll roll that out and fix it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It has like a QR code.
[SPEAKER_06]: It comes up with and you can basically like,
[SPEAKER_06]: There's an option on the Virginia app where you say, oh, what does somebody need your ID for?
[SPEAKER_06]: And you're like, oh, it needs it for TSA.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it brings up just a picture of your face and a QR code.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they scan the QR code.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that gives them access only to the information the TSA needs.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or they have one for like age verification for buying alcohol.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you just, what do they need?
[SPEAKER_06]: For age, you press age.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it brings up a picture and a QR code.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the store is supposed to scan the QR code.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then that gives them the access just the information they need.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not everything on your driver's license.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can show them that, too.
[SPEAKER_06]: But, and it's just on your phone.
[SPEAKER_06]: look these these things are happening faster and faster these days and so I still want a physical thing.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean I literally just got my physical insurance card from my health insurance because they're like, would you want to just know?
[SPEAKER_06]: I like to have both.
[SPEAKER_06]: it's convenient that way and also if you have both you don't have to worry about it because if you know your phone is out of power or whatever the case happens to be you got the physical you got the digital it's kind of nice to have both always have both yeah exactly why not why not have both
[SPEAKER_06]: Speaking of somebody who has lots of different things, you know, listen to both or all of her podcasts, good morning.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, she's a major maven now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: Me, the maven.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maven sounds like so old, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Me, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven, the maven
[SPEAKER_06]: Which, like, I understood what?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you watch Ally McBeal?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: The obsession with the little water.
[SPEAKER_07]: That'll, but the water is a very different thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: You ain't got, you ain't got any close to that deer.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're fine, you're good lord.
[SPEAKER_06]: Even though I know how old you are, cause you and I at the same age.
[SPEAKER_06]: So.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if, yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: But we've been sitting at the young 51 years young.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, I think if I remember right, your birthday is close to mine as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's your birthday?
[SPEAKER_06]: May 13th.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, you're one day.
[SPEAKER_07]: before my daughter.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a good time to have birthday.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, this is your birthday sometimes falls on Mother's Day.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yep.
[SPEAKER_07]: My birthday sometimes falls on Father's Day.
[SPEAKER_07]: There are.
[SPEAKER_07]: So yours is in June.
[SPEAKER_07]: June 17th.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Every now and then Abby's birthday and my birthday are on Mother's Day and Father's Day in the same year.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's actually only happened once.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think because she's only 12.
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: It looks.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's convenient also.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, my mom's birthday.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was worn on that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that helps.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, uh, crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's, it's also nice because I never have to worry about remembering.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, oh, well, yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Her birthday and my birthday.
[SPEAKER_08]: And my best friend, her daughter was born on her 26th birthday.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that's so cool.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was pointing out to the kids yesterday that, um, my birthday since it's
[SPEAKER_07]: They really want to ban me from doing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're like, okay, that was cool about nine months ago, Mom.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you're not allowed to do any of those things.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think you've been in the same zip code.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that they heard me do it just now.
[SPEAKER_07]: And they both rolled over in their chair.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, no, Mom.
[SPEAKER_07]: The world's like,
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not a lot.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: Get out.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's good to have kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: They keep you young.
[SPEAKER_06]: They keep you, you know, but we're kind of between the youth and the age thing today, obviously, because, you know, with the death of a Reverend Jackson today, which I was talking about earlier, Joe, that telling Joe, that
[SPEAKER_06]: back in 88 during that campaign that Jesse Jackson came to.
[SPEAKER_06]: I went to a school was 7 through 12.
[SPEAKER_06]: So junior high school all in one building and he came to Lincoln East High School.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he was kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it was, you know,
[SPEAKER_06]: now I look back on it obviously with us having had Barack Obama having two terms and I'm like okay but I do remember thinking it was kind of a big deal then because we hadn't had a black president at that point.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: But also in many ways for women too, I mean for Hillary Clinton, for because of the fact of of the the things that the changes that he made among other things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Rav Sharpton was saying this morning.
[SPEAKER_06]: on MS now that the changes that he made because of the 88 convention the change that we're made and how they did the delegates um actually benefit Barack Obama in 2008 and that if those changes have not been made they basically just would have installed Hillary Clinton just what's up
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, not going on.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that is interesting.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've heard his son on CNN this morning and it broke my heart Because he was I don't know if you guys caught any of that interview, but he was he was talking about you know It's father's legacy.
[SPEAKER_07]: He was talking about his history.
[SPEAKER_07]: He was talking about his messages and his final words and then he got to this point where he said My father and then he stopped and he could hear him catch his voice and he said I can't believe I I'm about to say was Yeah, and not is
[SPEAKER_07]: And it is really sad and heartbreaking, you know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's kind of the thing about being the age that we all are.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is, you know, being in this age group.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's, uh, we're between the past and the, um, the future.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's, well, we got to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: We all talk about that in the news of the day.
[SPEAKER_06]: Of course, little Olympics as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: And of course, all of the things that Joe is doing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, it's, it's Jody and Joe and me and you hanging out here on a Tuesday night, freshen your drink and come right back.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is, after all, the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hang on.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: People take it off their shoes here for John Fugle saying, but what I'm just saying, you know, look, we prefer people wear the full contingent of clothing, you know, I mean, I think let's don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's Marty Gros over, so come on kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, depends on whether they're listening on the podcast tomorrow, or whether they're listening on our live radio affiliates tonight.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe this kind of... My name is Marty Gros.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, yes, happening today today actually actually there there is a whole bunch of stuff going on today Let's see today is Marti grak a fat Tuesday So let's say And I got a friend here who grew up losing and it lives in the DC area and so you know, he's always a big you know
[SPEAKER_06]: Célebrant of Mardi Gras.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is the first night of Ramadan as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Ramadan Nobarak to everybody who celebrates.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is also the Lunar New Year.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also known as the Chinese New Year.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tonight starts the year of the firehorse.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm a firehorse.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, well, I mean, does it count when you you let the red hair go or is it still?
[SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be great in a month, but you said that.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's why I mentioned it.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, because I was born in January.
[SPEAKER_08]: The year starts for the Chinese New Year in February, so I'm at the tail end of this year.
[SPEAKER_06]: interesting so because the firehorse started in 1966 but went through to January of 1967 when I was born so I am a technically a firehorse and it's it's the horse but on fire well right because that's what I say according to the Chinese lore a firehorse years are seen as highly productive and sometimes disruptive and volatile firehorse years are also seen as powerful dynamic years that encourage bold and vicious and swift action.
[SPEAKER_07]: See, and she is starting a new network.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: Boys, this is a fire horse year man.
[SPEAKER_07]: Never wanted to fire horse.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is a fire horse.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's better fire horse than other things being on fire, because that dead.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying, we don't want to like certain things on fire.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we would like to like the left leaning media on fire.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was very, it was like blazing brightly, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we know you've got St.ish with Joe Carducci.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because some of us here in the bar listen, you, you, over there, you look like you don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Same issue with Joe Carducci downloaded.
[SPEAKER_06]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Get your phone.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we know you do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: We know you've got the show now that you do you and BDD on Thursdays I believe, which is fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: But you also have this whole project that you've been working on that you, you're really kind of presenting more to everybody now, called the Siren Network.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: talk about it if you would it's so I'm so it's very exciting so I'll give you the inception real quick the note back in August of 24 so going before the election I was looking around at the social media ecosystem and I was like well
[SPEAKER_07]: something is just not clicking right like all of our messages are getting overshadowed that they're so much more coordinated.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's so many more of them on the right.
[SPEAKER_07]: It seems very benign.
[SPEAKER_07]: We seem to be missing the mark.
[SPEAKER_07]: We seem to be talking to the same people.
[SPEAKER_07]: The same people seem to get the access all the time.
[SPEAKER_07]: Everything felt so gate kept and it felt like there was this chasm in between the lawmakers, candidates,
[SPEAKER_07]: And, and it seemed a natural fit for me that that, that has them could be bridged by new media, by creators, but again, I was looking around at the ecosystem and seeing the same five faces who are lovely people.
[SPEAKER_07]: But they were getting all of the access into every interview kind of sounded the same and meant that you they were all talking to the same circle of a venn diagram And you cannot make any real inroads You can't make any real progress.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can't really reach the full You know potential of an audience when you're talking to the people of the same five people all the time and everything's being kept and so I It's different.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's different than the gatekeeping from the mainstream media, but the concept is still the same if you're only talking to ABC And you see CBS which now sucks
[SPEAKER_06]: And maybe MSNBC where MSNN and CNN, if you're only talking to those same five, well, congratulations, you're only going to get the same, because they're all going to ask some more questions.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the infrastructure that was in place was such that like they did, it was very institutionalized that they didn't want anybody to really challenge what they were doing, and it was a recipe as we all know.
[SPEAKER_07]: In part,
[SPEAKER_07]: that led to us losing everything in 2024, not obviously by itself, but I was already diagnosing something that I saw as a problem and what happened was, as I was diagnosing that problem, I was like, wait, there's no fix in existence.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's no creator driven media network that is both an incubator for new content creators, but also a place where you actually amplify and uplift all these voices, but more important than anything, a place where the perspectives
[SPEAKER_07]: of the American electorate, but of the Democratic Party and beyond, you know, when you start uplifting voices from perspectives that make somebody else who hadn't feel seen, feel seen, it's so empowering and it's so welcoming and it's truly that big tent, it's not the big tent, little door.
[SPEAKER_07]: So we have, you know, took us quite a long time, we launched the Siren Network,
[SPEAKER_07]: is the first ever to my knowledge fully creator, driven, grass roots, median network that is designed to amplify a spectrum of voices and perspectives and ideologies, etc.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so we have, I think, 10 different contributors right now across the political spectrum, but across the lived reality and lived experience, not just lefty and that's as lefty as what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not just with it, let's say there's a rainbow of of, well, I heard that if I am correct, Terracet Meyer has joined your little network.
[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, that's the most exciting new development.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we don't want to get Terracet in here.
[SPEAKER_06]: We bounced on her out of hell.
[SPEAKER_06]: I heard I have a literally sat next to each other.
[SPEAKER_06]: The rainy rainbows show last year.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, no way.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just in this area.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, but our timing never seems to work out, which is always frustrating.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's very busy.
[SPEAKER_07]: The woman was very, very hard.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've been so lucky because when I was just watching CNN in like 2017, 2018, wasn't really engaged outside of Twitter in this world, I would watch Tara on CNN all the time and I was like, god damn, this woman just speaks truth to power.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's amazing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like she.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's, and she's so articulate, but also I think one of the things that's so great about her is that principle she is because we've come from very different backgrounds, so if she was a Republican, she, you know, works very hard to elect her Republicans, but her Republicans dances her principle, and her party left her, she didn't leave it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so,
[SPEAKER_07]: you know she and I have we've both jersey girls and we bonded over the last couple of years and become very good friends and yeah we launched our show it's called BFD and we go live every Tuesday at 12 this is our second show today we at Miles Taylor on as our guys.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's great it's it's a very cool addition to the siren and it's the siren that worked calm and thank you for asking um you know we keep building yeah we've got we've got it linked we've got a link in the
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: We try to do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: We also happen to have your sub-stack there as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you effing kidding me, which you are prolific as a writer of which You are an amazing word Smith girl.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Somebody asked me today how long the average piece takes and then I was like they to 12 hours sometimes
[SPEAKER_07]: The last one was about eight hours and it just I want to make sure that it that I do the best I can and that it really comes out in a way that people enjoy it, but also, you know, feel that more important thing is that they feel seen in this moment, you know, we're all going through this and to make people feel seen in the angst of it and it's given them a place to put their frustrations, you know, that's what I'm trying to do.
[SPEAKER_08]: Have you gotten your new passport in your, I mean, what are you doing for, for voting?
[SPEAKER_08]: I know that the save act will not pass at the moment, but it could pass in the future.
[SPEAKER_08]: So are you getting that stuff taken care of?
[SPEAKER_07]: I am one of the 69 million women who changed her last name when she got my hair eight and doesn't have a birth certificate that matches my.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have the same name as my children.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a passport.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that's what I have to work on.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't actually have much of an international travel life sadly.
[SPEAKER_07]: I would like to change that as well.
[SPEAKER_07]: Also leaving all options on the table.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that I need to do is get a passport.
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought getting a real ID was a challenge.
[SPEAKER_07]: No kidding.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean this is we all know this is clearly voter suppression Yes, the poll attacks is voter suppression because they're terrified because they'd see the writing on the wall I mean, my god Donald Trump is the second most unpopular president ever and I think he's the first most unpopular person president ever so congrats on now Did you guys see the uh the Harry and keeps doing the numbers on different people down.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, oh yeah
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's just, it's, you know, and then he's like, oh, when if you do the independence, he's like 40 points under water, 42 points under water, something like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: 27 points swing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Gen Z. Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, if you if you if you start hitting some of those, um, the sub tabs is they're called in polling, you know, and you get to to like black women who are under 25.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's like, he's got like a negative 80, I think something like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: New York.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_06]: David Jones Locker.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like you.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: What's funny?
[SPEAKER_07]: What are with that non-educated white people?
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's going down.
[SPEAKER_08]: And what I loved about the one, I saw a scene from the Malani.
[SPEAKER_08]: I haven't seen the movie.
[SPEAKER_08]: I just,
[SPEAKER_08]: part of me wants to see it just to laugh at it, but I don't want to give her the numbers, but she said in the movie at one point that her husband has united the country, yes, against him.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, sure, that's what he's, that's the funniest thing about him, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, the great divider is actually one of the great unifiers because he galvanizes people against him in a way that no other person ever has.
[SPEAKER_07]: And by the way, I think, and I've only ever seen the clips.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I think that that was AI.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think the part when she goes,
[SPEAKER_07]: Here we go again.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that was A.I.
[SPEAKER_07]: and I think that that little scene where she's sitting there and she says, Well, it's the digit bid tonight.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that was also A.I.I.
[SPEAKER_07]: I honestly believe that much of that film is A.I.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think we should see it, J.O.D.
[SPEAKER_07]: just to have like like a like some kind of game.
[SPEAKER_07]: We want to do MST 3000.
[SPEAKER_07]: with Frank on it to watch you with him you know oh my god i would die i had Frank on it here in the bar and i mean you know yeah please tell him i said hello yeah yeah i would die to see him do oh my god i would do with him and like oh yeah
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you know, we're, we're thinking, okay, you'd be like, because, because, who else, several other people have asked to be like, we'd love to do it with Frank.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, we'd have to maybe get, maybe Dana, maybe you, we'd have to get somebody to do some of the female voices, obviously.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then, you know, Frank and Trace could do the guy voices, and whatever, but it'd be fine to be fine to be fine to be fine.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's, that's, that's a tharsus, right there.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's a tharsus, right there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_07]: I haven't seen it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Congratulations, Mr. President.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know she calls it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mr. President.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: He calls her son.
[SPEAKER_07]: Her son.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's not quite as bad as mother.
[SPEAKER_07]: that was that was kind of ikey that's like really i mean i don't need to know what you're no i mean but and yet who ever would have expected that he and karen writes karen pens yes that that because remember the funeral was it deccini's who's funeral yeah it was
[SPEAKER_07]: And they were the tuffies.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like they wouldn't even look at Trump.
[SPEAKER_07]: They wouldn't even like, like, glancing his direction.
[SPEAKER_07]: And Mike Pence, to his credit, did the thing on January 6 that, you know, got him almost hanged.
[SPEAKER_07]: But when I was watching her, that fear of like, that's the kind of energy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like right there, I don't expect mother to be bringing, but well, I mean, he almost got her and her husband killed.
[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, yeah, can you imagine turn around and make a nice with somebody I wouldn't do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do not have to do dramatic skills for that.
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
[SPEAKER_07]: Especially the devil down on it was like, yeah, he should have been like, well, he's still he still talks that way.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's still.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I I do wonder how much of it is just Trump's arrogance and how much of it is the people around him not actually letting the real world get through Not not telling him that Everybody thinks you suck Donald
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that voice whispers in his inner child all day long.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think so too.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but I think that's the voice of his parents.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if it was a Mary Trump and you know, read what she's written, I think that very definitely is part of it is that, you know, Donald, the king never be good enough.
[SPEAKER_06]: Only his brother, who died of alcohol poisoning because he couldn't stand being in the family unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_06]: But only his brother was good enough, and Donald never will be.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it was, you know, whatever, but I
[SPEAKER_07]: I believe that so much of what we are living inside of is as a result of unresolved childhood trauma.
[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_07]: I will go to my grave on that hill.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think not just in his case.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think in Jady Vance's case.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he wants musks case.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think this is tyranny of the traumatized and unresolved.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like childhood trauma is no one's fault because it's inflicted upon you.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it is incumbent upon you.
[SPEAKER_07]: And there's something that
[SPEAKER_07]: You can and should do the work if you, you know, if you can.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, a lot of people become comedians.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, though they do.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm getting to you, I believe me.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Some of them even become bloggers and podcasters, just know that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not saying good, doesn't company.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying that some people do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because we've seen their work out there and we're like, no, block, don't want to see any of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Although what there was a good comedian actually last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who was talking about some stuff.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Alright, we weren't talking before the break about Colbert and a little bit there in the break about how media works.
[SPEAKER_06]: I am, you said this Jody, uh, what was it last year when the whole Cold War thing blew up that the closer it got to the end of his contract, the more that he's just going to say.
[SPEAKER_08]: The less Fc has to give.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: The less Fc Cc, the Fc, the Fc, the Fc, the Fc, the Fc, the Fc, the Fc, the Fc, the Fc, the
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_06]: So for those of you who missed it, Cole Bear was supposed to have on James Taloreco last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the chumps who are scared and in the executive sweets at CBS, even though CBS, CBS News is supposed to be different anyway.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were like, oh my god, Brendan Carr is going to get mad at us.
[SPEAKER_06]: so he's like screw it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Since they said you couldn't have it on the broadcast air, he put it up on his YouTube channel.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I think when all this is done, when his you know broadcast contract is gone, he's going to take something and take it to online, take it to a streaming service.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, look at what they're doing on smart list.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, what do they do?
[SPEAKER_06]: I miss this.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do they do?
[SPEAKER_07]: They're making like $12 million a month.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you're talking about the podcast.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: What is far as how much they're making?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, I think there is very definitely still a place for radio and for broadcast television.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think there is a place for it.
[SPEAKER_06]: However, if they act the way that CBS is acting right now, there's not going to be a place for it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, it's reminiscent of the smother's brothers.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, it very much is also CBS also CBS exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but also the fact is it's it's it's it's the cowardliness.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the oh my god.
[SPEAKER_06]: We can't do this.
[SPEAKER_06]: We can't do that and they end up blocking themselves into a tiny little corner.
[SPEAKER_06]: When there wasn't anything else out there, like in the days of the smothers brothers, when there was CBS and ABC and NBC, and I mean, PBS back then, I don't think it was.
[SPEAKER_06]: There was PBS, PBS was there.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's our PBS at that point?
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, but there's those four channels at that point.
[SPEAKER_06]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you can, you can be more of a, we can do what we want, because we own the whole damn thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: But when there's a million options and you back yourself into a corner like CBS is doing, everybody just looks and goes, that's nice and they move on to something else.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, like I see media right now, you know, they're sliding terribly and and one of the things is that people are identifying that they don't trust them.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, increasingly don't trust them because, you know, a lot of them have been gobbled up by Trump loyalists and and look at what Barry wise is doing at CBS.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's capitulating.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's obeying in advance.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_07]: What they've turned 60 minutes into is a shame the fact that you know, they just said Cooper's leaving Yeah, Cooper is leaving which I was one of that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, now I mean now we might have this merger with Paramount and and CNN might be up for grabs.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, that doesn't happen, but that's well, I mean that's like somebody by that and that's also I mean merging like this is always bad, but at least if that flicks by Warner Bros.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's better than Paramount buying Warner Bros.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, as Paramount is trying to make it an ideological silo, which when there were more limited options, that's what the right did with broadcast radio.
[SPEAKER_09]: And they'll find fresh and they forget about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, so so you guys know that I worked for Randy for a number of years and I won't go into the details about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But long and short, they bought up a lot of left-leaning shows.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_06]: Chef Show, Tom Show, Randy Show.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then put us in a cupboard and close the door.
[SPEAKER_06]: metaphorically speaking.
[SPEAKER_06]: So then, oh, well, oh, nobody can find you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just don't know why.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And when there was that kind of limited option, but if they tried that crap now, if they tried that crap now versus when they tried it here 10, 15 years ago, impossible, because everybody would just go fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going off online.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to do my own thing and you can suck it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Have a nice day.
[SPEAKER_08]: Joy reads doing better now, not on MSNBC.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Same with kindergarten, not being on CNN.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Same with God Lemon.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: You've gone YouTube now.
[SPEAKER_06]: The thing is there's a place for broadcast and a lot of it is local, but then you have the people like Jeff Bezos who did the dumbest thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_06]: sports and entertainment and the arts.
[SPEAKER_06]: When you combine them with a news product, our Guinness.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: People will buy your newspaper and watch your local news.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there's a, there's a guy here in the DC area.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tommy kind of should remember his last name.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's been a morning show one of the, the pop, top 40 radio stations here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tommy's a great guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: He wouldn't be somebody you would normally expect on a news thing, but he does entertainment for NBC Washington.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he always finds funny things to do oftentimes during the Olympics, they have him like mock up, you know, here, try to do this dumb thing, and he almost kills himself.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he's funny.
[SPEAKER_06]: People watch the local news because they're like, I want to see that.
[SPEAKER_06]: They watch the local news because they want to hear about their local sports teams.
[SPEAKER_06]: They pay attention to local radio because the local radio will talk about the sports that's going on or some of the arts events that are going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you are an owner of a broadcast station by default,
[SPEAKER_06]: your primary audience is going to be local wherever your stick is.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's, you know, you broadcast that if you're an owner of a newspaper, even a big one like the Washington Post, um, even the New York Times has a, they're own people who just work on stuff for New York City.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And there are people who buy the New York Times because they appreciate that coverage.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can get it with news day, too, but whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the point being is,
[SPEAKER_06]: to then have Bezos go, you know what, we don't need the entire sports department.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and screw the metro department.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going, these are people that make you money hand over fist, because they're creating information, stories, pictures, audio, video,
[SPEAKER_06]: that people look at and say, this is what I really want to pay attention to.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is why I pay attention to your ads and buy your product and subscribe.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, I get the other, I get a politics and I get the world news and whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: But these are the fun things.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's people like basics going, I realize on this plate of information, you like the sweet stuff and the salty stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to cut out all the sweet and salty stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: Here's the crap that you hate.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then they go, how come nobody's buying it?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think he cares about, like, you know, about profitability.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think he cares about integrity and for, clearly, you know, it's really sad to see what he's done to the Washington Post.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's also sad to see what St. Clair is done to the local media, you know, and a lot of people don't have a lot of options in these smaller markets, killed off a local newspapers and, you know,
[SPEAKER_07]: I've got a friend named Jess Piper who talks about this all the time.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's information deserts, you know, and then a lot of damage can be done in those deserts.
[SPEAKER_06]: With a lot of places like with the career newspapers, some of the states, states media papers where they're online newspapers.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are local people, many of them are the people who used to work for the big news organizations, the big TV and radio and newspapers in those areas, but they just got canned by lean newspapers or next-star media, and they cut out all the people, and so those people are still journalists.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're just now they're working for a state's newsroom project, or a career project, and they're still creating great stories.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's somebody else in the land and going, obviously there's people doing the work.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously there are people willing to pay the advertising to be seen next to that great work.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just think it's, to me, it's dumb that the, you know, big folks, I'm going to buy our favorite thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: When there's a limit, when it's only broadcast, when you only have AM and FM, congratulations I get it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we're on the internet now.
[SPEAKER_06]: And there's a bajillion different places you can get your information.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you know legacy media is is cannibalizing itself by being so corporate and so I mean you got five you got Sony and Viacom and you know all these companies that own CBS and then you've got all these companies that own ABC all these companies that own NBC and it's like hi guys how about and then they don't
[SPEAKER_08]: The main overlord wants to control everything instead of allowing each separate entity to be itself, which is a better way.
[SPEAKER_08]: If you're going to be the overlord, let NBC do what NBC does very well.
[SPEAKER_08]: Let them do what they do very well.
[SPEAKER_08]: And if they screw up fine, have a chat, because I used to work for a company that did industrial videos for a major hotel chain, which owns a lot of chains below it.
[SPEAKER_08]: and how it each chain had their own way of doing things.
[SPEAKER_08]: And yes, if the overlord didn't like it, they would have a chat, but each chain had its own control over what it did.
[SPEAKER_08]: And that's how that works, and it works better that way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, you know?
[SPEAKER_07]: It absolutely should be that way.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, CBS is the perfect example of how much of what ABC is on a particular capitulating when it came to Georgia's stuff novelists sort of put us in many ways where we are now.
[SPEAKER_07]: uh, you know, looking at Stephen Colbert show and saying, no, you can't do this and then you have a barriwise who's like, okay, no, we can't do this.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it's an incredibly slippery slope and and one of the reasons that ABC NBC and CBS exist was to make sure that wasn't too much consolidated influence in anyone's space.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, we, Jodie, we were a friend named Ron who walked us,
[SPEAKER_07]: very happily down rabbit hole all day long.
[SPEAKER_05]: You've got, you've got where you see an NBC literally at one time or one station.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, ABC split off from them for those of you who don't know that's that's a fun thing to look at them in any Yeah, and there's a part of New York City where a lot of these these networks are still hubbed and we're serious radio is hubbed There's literal, you know, halls of history That you can you can travel down to get some perspective on that and and how we know our government understood the danger
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's one of those things where history might not repeat itself, but it sure's, you know, it sure's like that's rhyme.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, absolutely, it's, it's sad, but especially, I mean, William Paley is rolling over in his grave when it comes to what's gone on with CBS right now.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just, it's all the way I'm glad that I'm crying.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad that you're still left.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would have preferred that Anderson would have left a little bit earlier and a little bit louder from 60 minutes.
[SPEAKER_06]: from 60 minutes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because he knew it was going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody knew it was going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: And everybody knew that the Anderson people was going to leave because of the lack of integrity, very wise and that the Ellison saying, you know, it's as somebody who has spent more than half of my career in media being a producer, uh,
[SPEAKER_06]: We've talked about a number of times, Jody.
[SPEAKER_06]: I always see the job as an executive producer to be the umbrella, to be the shield between the executives who don't know their asthma home in the ground, when it comes to the content most of the time.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the people who actually do this do the work.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the executives for various reasons, because oftentimes I tell them to go pound sand, don't like me very much.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm like your job is to go make us money go get out of here if you want to do it You come down here where the work is done, but you don't get the protections of being up there One side of the other sweet cheeks, but you don't get both and They don't like that very much.
[SPEAKER_06]: They they want to have the protection and I'm like that's not how it works And among other reasons because the people don't trust you when you do that
[SPEAKER_06]: When you get down in the dirt and you actually work with people and you listen to them and you take their calls and you read their emails and you read their posts.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're like, I get you, you want to love.
[SPEAKER_06]: So they know you got cats or dogs or whatever, you know, cats or cats.
[SPEAKER_08]: Agreed.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, it's sad.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's sad.
[SPEAKER_08]: What's happening?
[SPEAKER_08]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just sad.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm also glad for the things that are developing from it.
[SPEAKER_06]: For example, the Siren Network, which is obviously something that JoJo is doing, which obviously we've got the link to all of her stuff in the guest section of the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you got like five more minutes, we want to hang you over here for the after hours.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you got five minutes.
[SPEAKER_06]: She does.
[SPEAKER_06]: Joe shaking your head.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's like, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: So look, we're going to keep Joe here for the after hours for those of you who are listening on all of our great radio affiliates.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, you know, we will get you some more stuff here tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously with Bob Ceska comes in.
[SPEAKER_06]: It'll be Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, of course, we'll have more news on top.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll have another great drink of the day as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Wednesday nights don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: That'll be tomorrow tonight.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you got to do to get home safely?
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously.
[SPEAKER_06]: Whether it's usually, it's pretty good most of the country right now.
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