WEBVTT 00:00.318 --> 00:02.643 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, with me, it's all inside of Prospect Show. 00:02.704 --> 00:07.876 [SPEAKER_00]: I am Adam Weiner, join as I am every Tuesday by fans and it'll be Prospect Guy Guru. 00:07.956 --> 00:13.288 [SPEAKER_00]: What have you, depending on which eye-run you read, air-cool, and sprint training is a foot. 00:13.308 --> 00:16.977 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a ponest, players are gathered, pictures, catchers. 00:16.957 --> 00:18.340 [SPEAKER_00]: other types of players. 00:18.700 --> 00:28.379 [SPEAKER_00]: They're all there and that includes prospects and that includes you viewers of the prospect show who I'm sure want to know what we're seeing early from a number of top prospects we have high expectations for. 00:28.740 --> 00:33.870 [SPEAKER_00]: This will not be the kind of riff and episode we've got seven more of those planned before opening day. 00:34.050 --> 00:38.138 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be in clear water next, not even next. 00:38.118 --> 00:42.366 [SPEAKER_00]: this Sunday to watch a pirate split squad face the fillets. 00:42.386 --> 00:47.236 [SPEAKER_00]: Now do the pirates want to send Connor Griffin to my split squad as splits the squad get a big. 00:47.897 --> 00:55.873 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know as soon as you maybe I'll even be able to get to Connor Griffin footage or maybe I'll just be stalking hunter barco around the back entrance. 00:55.853 --> 00:57.876 [SPEAKER_00]: that's for me to know and you to find out. 00:57.956 --> 01:10.013 [SPEAKER_00]: But before any of that happens, we have plenty more early prospect storylines that we are keeping an eye on, Eric's beloved brave, something we are going on at Yankees Camp with a bullpen save here or potential rotation addition. 01:10.314 --> 01:17.344 [SPEAKER_00]: The Red Sox Lob Jam, White Sox, and Juan Soto's must praise outfielder on here to break it all down. 01:18.024 --> 01:20.528 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be 01:21.301 --> 01:23.524 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just glad that there's actual baseball news. 01:25.006 --> 01:32.157 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the kind of pretend that there is and put on our look into the future caps or whatever. 01:32.197 --> 01:44.254 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, it's still early, but at the same time, we're still seeing a lot of very interesting sort of like injury updates, particularly matters a lot for this discussion and we're talking about prospects and I just think that there's a lot of 01:44.234 --> 01:52.101 [SPEAKER_01]: early camp movement that could result in, they're still a few guys out there, they haven't been signed, that could have very easily happened. 01:52.121 --> 01:58.447 [SPEAKER_01]: But also I think a lot of prospects may be getting a better chance of making their open new rosers in the way they're initially saw. 01:58.527 --> 01:59.488 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how about that? 01:59.548 --> 02:07.256 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, the early narratives, the praise is very clear from people who are the players who were in positions of power as well. 02:07.276 --> 02:14.022 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to start off, we're going to be talking about a couple of an errands that are seemingly developing early before the game has even gotten 02:14.002 --> 02:23.416 [SPEAKER_00]: first game is, I mean, I know the Aggie Star Friday, and I know who's starting that game on Friday, so we'll certainly mention his name before the end of the show before too long. 02:23.717 --> 02:32.571 [SPEAKER_00]: If you were just joining us for the first time, the prospect show every Tuesday, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, the baseball incident is with me at a 100% Robert Murray fan side of its MLB Insider. 02:32.591 --> 02:35.195 [SPEAKER_00]: You could bother us both in the discord if you have not joined yet. 02:35.515 --> 02:38.760 [SPEAKER_00]: Please join at the all-star tiers you could participate in the private Q&A. 02:38.740 --> 02:43.426 [SPEAKER_00]: On Thursdays at 3 p.m. Eastern, baseball and Saturdays goes live on Monday and Wednesday. 02:43.666 --> 02:45.468 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can bombard us with your questions there as well. 02:45.488 --> 02:49.213 [SPEAKER_00]: But all stars get priority access to the question portion of the show. 02:49.513 --> 02:51.896 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, head over to fancite.com backslash newsletter. 02:51.936 --> 02:53.558 [SPEAKER_00]: She's subscribed to the baseball and Saturdays newsletter. 02:53.658 --> 02:58.384 [SPEAKER_00]: Eric, me, Robert, all of us directly with your inbox twice a week, Tuesdays and Thursdays. 02:58.424 --> 03:02.249 [SPEAKER_00]: And all the head and more of the baseball and Saturdays for you on fancite.com backslash. 03:02.269 --> 03:03.951 [SPEAKER_00]: Baseball dash insiders. 03:04.011 --> 03:08.376 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you get all of us in one place, we're probably going to talk about our favorite teams. 03:08.356 --> 03:10.298 [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably going to talk about the Atlanta Braids. 03:10.678 --> 03:15.684 [SPEAKER_00]: And hey, a little bit of Colombe, Colombe stuff going on at Braids' camp right now. 03:15.864 --> 03:22.611 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a different picture who you love is injured every day, but opportunities are opening up for other pictures who you also love. 03:22.991 --> 03:27.396 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, to head to Atlanta first, and let's get this in before Lucas Gielito. 03:28.357 --> 03:30.099 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Braids are going to sign Lucas Gielito. 03:30.119 --> 03:31.760 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Braids are going to sign Zacletel. 03:31.821 --> 03:36.085 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they're going to fill this void externally or internally, but internally, 03:36.875 --> 03:37.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Stenters, well, about goes down. 03:38.017 --> 03:39.079 [SPEAKER_00]: Her small jump goes down. 03:40.101 --> 03:42.585 [SPEAKER_00]: Jera Richie is a guy who we talked about a lot in the show. 03:42.645 --> 03:48.556 [SPEAKER_00]: It already fell like he had a chance to swipe a rotation spot before the wall drip news, before things got even thinner. 03:48.817 --> 03:50.299 [SPEAKER_00]: Schwalmbug gonna be on the shelf a while. 03:51.421 --> 03:54.887 [SPEAKER_00]: He isn't competition ostensibly with like the grant homes of the world. 03:54.928 --> 03:57.432 [SPEAKER_00]: And Ronaldo Lopez, throwing like 91. 03:57.412 --> 04:19.960 [SPEAKER_00]: maybe even less than it's been an odd start, like you never want to flash your full velocity early in camp if you're not quite ready, but I'm not sure what's going on in Atlanta and I do feel like Richie has the inside track potentially the number five or number four starter role in Atlanta already after just a couple of days of gathering, does that feel fair and what expectations are you comfortable placing on his shoulders? 04:21.053 --> 04:30.007 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fair, he certainly had a chance beforehand, but the brace and sent me some signals out for a while that they really want to preserve depth. 04:30.107 --> 04:34.354 [SPEAKER_01]: And that means that they're going to carry guys who might be a little bit worse that don't have minor leg options. 04:34.835 --> 04:38.361 [SPEAKER_01]: And then putting leg guys who do have minor leg options in their minor leagues, they were willing to do that. 04:38.741 --> 04:41.205 [SPEAKER_01]: And that was actually a reason why Waldrup had a very, 04:41.185 --> 04:45.471 [SPEAKER_01]: it was it seemed likely in the moment that Waldrup was going to make the opening day of washer. 04:45.491 --> 04:55.567 [SPEAKER_01]: And along J.R. Richie, Waldrup who like put up together a really good second half last year was a strong rookie performer, but he there was a good chance that if everyone was healthy he wasn't going to make the opening day roster at all. 04:56.107 --> 05:02.357 [SPEAKER_01]: So, but you have Schwalmbach go down and you're like, okay, they can't really, they can't be too picky in terms of minor league options. 05:02.397 --> 05:04.560 [SPEAKER_01]: They're just going to have to go with Waldrup and that's fine. 05:04.540 --> 05:08.351 [SPEAKER_01]: But then Maldric gets hurt and we don't know exactly how hurt he is. 05:08.511 --> 05:19.562 [SPEAKER_01]: It could be anywhere from either some loose bodies, but just rest it for a few weeks and then you'll be fine to we need to cut into you and that depending on what the damage is can be a much longer absence. 05:19.542 --> 05:23.747 [SPEAKER_01]: So, but at the moment, I do think the GRWC has a better chance, a much better chance. 05:23.847 --> 05:25.709 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they have a lot of internal options left. 05:26.150 --> 05:28.072 [SPEAKER_01]: The external options are a little bit dicey. 05:28.293 --> 05:34.800 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, you have Zacleto, you have, just look at the GLEO, but like, if the bridge really won't sign those guys, why didn't they sign them yet? 05:35.161 --> 05:39.146 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, they already wanted starting pitching depth before those two guys got hurt. 05:39.186 --> 05:41.969 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, maybe there's a little bit more agency and maybe there will be a little plus picking out. 05:42.490 --> 05:49.498 [SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately, I don't think there's going to, I don't think they're going to make enough 05:49.833 --> 05:50.615 [SPEAKER_01]: in the thick of things. 05:50.715 --> 05:52.478 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, right now they'll look at us and the great homes. 05:52.498 --> 05:55.184 [SPEAKER_01]: We got to see how healthy our homes looks pretty good. 05:56.046 --> 05:56.707 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at us. 05:56.727 --> 06:03.300 [SPEAKER_01]: We just don't know how was he going next effort is there, you know, like how much if he's on the throne 91, you can't have him in the rotation. 06:03.320 --> 06:04.904 [SPEAKER_01]: He just can't because his stuff isn't good enough. 06:04.944 --> 06:05.785 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not power stuff. 06:06.307 --> 06:07.048 [SPEAKER_01]: But 06:07.028 --> 06:07.749 [SPEAKER_01]: In the case of T.R. 06:07.769 --> 06:09.311 [SPEAKER_01]: Richie, maybe Owen Murphy as well. 06:09.351 --> 06:14.077 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of guys like Burke Hulters and other name that might force his way into a conversation. 06:14.878 --> 06:30.978 [SPEAKER_01]: They have other have in some internal options, but they're not perfect fits, so I'm not completely convinced that they're not going to try to subvert this podcast immediately and sign an arm, like five minutes for it comes out, go ahead and that was my bad, I cursed it, but it's a top situation overall. 06:30.998 --> 06:34.302 [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think the brakes have some pieces on the prospect side that could be helpful. 06:34.720 --> 06:45.405 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think is the year one ceiling on richy because I don't know he's ready personally like I know he believes that he is ready to contribute what do you feel like he could give you year one 06:46.837 --> 06:57.534 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's I never want to project more than like a number four or number five starter on a guy until I see how big leaders are like taking his stuff and reacting to it. 06:57.794 --> 07:01.800 [SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, I just don't I don't know how big leaders are going to respond to his stuff. 07:01.840 --> 07:03.263 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he could start off really strong. 07:03.583 --> 07:06.668 [SPEAKER_01]: He has to have a repertoire where he's going to kind of hard to pin down early. 07:06.648 --> 07:11.737 [SPEAKER_01]: But once teams have a second or a third, look at them, I'd be a little bit more kind of concerned to stay kind of out. 07:11.978 --> 07:17.248 [SPEAKER_01]: Things are going to go, or at least skeptical, because rookie pictures very often are not very good. 07:17.268 --> 07:21.656 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that his ceiling is probably at number four or number five starter, at least early on. 07:22.337 --> 07:27.627 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm completely willing to change that prediction once we kind of see how it looks. 07:28.197 --> 07:31.684 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, don't expect every Ricky started to hot me and look at the meds last year. 07:31.704 --> 07:35.992 [SPEAKER_00]: No McClean is zoomed up top prospect list for good reason because he showed out in his limited sample. 07:36.493 --> 07:39.258 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Jonah Tong did not bring in Sprout is a brewer now. 07:39.418 --> 07:40.159 [SPEAKER_00]: Also did not. 07:40.360 --> 07:44.688 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not easy to be a rookie pitcher, um, which brings me to another rookie pitcher. 07:44.948 --> 07:46.932 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, uh, look. 07:47.131 --> 07:53.478 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, this is not going to be the last time I ask you about Carlos Lagrangne who has been the talk of Yankees camp for good reason. 07:53.538 --> 07:54.359 [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's not off. 07:54.379 --> 07:55.180 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny. 07:55.240 --> 08:09.797 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when you when you live in the prospect space, like we do, you are well aware of these people and their special talents and gifts, but you forget what it is like for somebody to for a whole metric ton of Yankees fans to encounter prospects with unique tools at the same time. 08:09.777 --> 08:28.995 [SPEAKER_00]: And here he is and he's in bullpen sessions throwing 101-102 already and every single outlet writes the same story at the same time about how he could be the bullpen solution that Yankee fans are overlooking even though he is a starting pitcher in the minors and if you've got stuff like this that you should be a starter for as long as you can be a starter until you can't be any more. 08:29.656 --> 08:32.241 [SPEAKER_00]: And so here he is 08:32.761 --> 08:36.464 [SPEAKER_00]: At Camp, he gets a, he's got the showcase start. 08:36.484 --> 08:39.827 [SPEAKER_00]: He's starting the egg, he's opener on Friday against the Orioles. 08:40.248 --> 08:43.190 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's in the IPP against Aaron Judge yesterday. 08:43.270 --> 08:47.334 [SPEAKER_00]: He throws 99 judge Homer's off it, knowing that all eyes are on him and circles. 08:47.414 --> 08:48.755 [SPEAKER_00]: Back to him and judge a second time. 08:49.016 --> 08:56.663 [SPEAKER_00]: He cranked it up to 102.6 dotted on the lower end or half to strike out the captain and then Aaron Judge comments on it. 08:56.783 --> 08:58.504 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Aaron Boone comments on it. 08:58.804 --> 09:02.768 [SPEAKER_00]: So he could be the story of camp, 09:02.748 --> 09:08.154 [SPEAKER_00]: David Bednar, we know what we're getting by and large, Camille D'Oval, we don't know what we're getting. 09:08.194 --> 09:11.398 [SPEAKER_00]: They think they fixed in, but there's your eighth inning, and I think I have everything works. 09:11.478 --> 09:16.824 [SPEAKER_00]: And after that, we've got Fernando Cruz's a fireman, and we've got seven additional question marks. 09:17.565 --> 09:20.528 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, right? 09:20.628 --> 09:27.456 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's tempting to throw this fella into the bullpen, but then all of a sudden, 09:27.436 --> 09:42.458 [SPEAKER_00]: You may lose a starver even if you don't think you're losing a starter you may lose a starver job a Chamberlain feel he's in 2009 He goes back everybody goes back and forth the Michael Scott Snip snap Snip snap it's hard to put the toothpaste back in the two after you've seen La Grande dominators are reliever 09:42.438 --> 09:44.561 [SPEAKER_00]: really going to want to take them out and put them back in the rotation. 09:45.001 --> 09:56.597 [SPEAKER_00]: The decision makers have had this problem over and over again and repeatedly they choose to just stick with what's working and I understand that temptation, but then you might lose yourself an all-time starter with all time stuff if they can harness the command. 09:57.458 --> 09:58.319 [SPEAKER_00]: What are your feelings? 09:58.440 --> 10:09.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Vizavey for a vacation, bullpen, a long-term and short-term for this guy with an obviously absurd arsenal, but with severe 10:10.045 --> 10:30.450 [SPEAKER_01]: in theory and that the breaks have a guy who's a relative similar to this, that when you have a guy who's throwing a hundred plus with like kind of wicked stuff, you don't want to move them off starting pitching unless again, they just literally can't do the job because starters like that are very, very rare and having that kind of super power stuff is a big deal. 10:31.983 --> 10:45.958 [SPEAKER_01]: In the case of La Grande, there's a, a prospect is somewhat similar in Jean Carlos Lara for the brave's power arm and you want to give that power arm a chance to succeed, but he has a long history of command issues. 10:46.782 --> 11:06.763 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just kind of gets to the point where it feels like you're trying to put a square peg into a round hole with a guy like that I think that ultimately when a guy is doesn't have great command but has big time power stuff and if you let him go and lose in shorter outings his stuff might play up even more and his command that might be a little bit better because you can kind of dial it in for 15 to 20 pitches or whatever. 11:07.884 --> 11:10.647 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be very tempted to try him out in the bullpen now. 11:11.048 --> 11:12.371 [SPEAKER_01]: does that close a door later on? 11:12.692 --> 11:13.073 [SPEAKER_01]: It's fair. 11:13.293 --> 11:14.356 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a fair question to wonder. 11:14.717 --> 11:21.212 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it happen where like guys like came up and they're like, okay, we're going to start off the bullpen and then then it's kind of settled into that role and it has never left it. 11:21.232 --> 11:28.590 [SPEAKER_01]: But then you have situations where like Adam Wayne writes our sister's career as a closer and then he becomes one of the better started with sort of pictures and cardinal history, right? 11:28.690 --> 11:29.412 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 11:30.353 --> 11:31.634 [SPEAKER_01]: There are multiple schools of thought. 11:32.175 --> 11:39.202 [SPEAKER_01]: I am hopeful that he gets at least some real chance to start in camp, maybe, like, see what he looks like after three years. 11:39.723 --> 11:46.590 [SPEAKER_01]: And if it's clear in the third inning that he just is gased and he cannot command the bitches anymore, that kind of gives you your answers to kind of what kind of guy he is. 11:46.910 --> 11:51.795 [SPEAKER_01]: But I like the arm count a lot, but it's just a tough profile to make as a starting pitcher. 11:51.815 --> 11:58.842 [SPEAKER_01]: If you make it, you're like us stuff, but it's like one out of 20 guys who have this kind of stuff that mistakes day to this rotation. 11:59.243 --> 12:14.434 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and bottom line what they need this year is the bullpen help like what what they need this they have rotation options down to will Warren down past him you know will war and Luis he'll Ryan yar bro Paul Blackburn fan has friend in back. 12:14.414 --> 12:35.427 [SPEAKER_00]: like you've got other guys even at the double-anthropy level in price cutting him they're probably not going to go that deep But you've got other guys you could turn you before you turn to La Grande in the rotation you've got like nine or ten of them But you do not have arms in your system that could theoretically hold down the eighth inning at a pennant race and he showed them something special yesterday when he 12:35.407 --> 12:40.275 [SPEAKER_00]: recovered and returned to Aaron judge and said, all right, so you got my 99. 12:40.696 --> 12:45.024 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's 102 and a half and here's where it's going to be and you are Aaron judging you can't hit this. 12:45.885 --> 12:54.360 [SPEAKER_00]: So tip of the cap from both sides, then they respect from both sides and look for the Aggies need a bullpen arm and he's flourishing. 12:54.627 --> 13:00.256 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they would hesitate to pluck him from the high minors, utilize him. 13:00.276 --> 13:06.205 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, raise new questions and answer them next year, but that's next year's problem. 13:06.225 --> 13:07.347 [SPEAKER_00]: And will next year happen? 13:07.848 --> 13:08.228 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 13:08.288 --> 13:10.292 [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Clark doesn't have to say it anymore. 13:10.332 --> 13:12.535 [SPEAKER_00]: So, who knows? 13:12.515 --> 13:24.938 [SPEAKER_00]: A vacancy has been created at Red Sox camp, as well, temporarily, a Roman Anthony's, of course, going to be their centerpiece this year, but he was selected for Team USA, late in the world baseball classic process in Corbin Carroll's place. 13:25.579 --> 13:28.785 [SPEAKER_00]: That has led to a lot of 13:28.765 --> 13:45.004 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, if most of Yoshida questions weren't already loud, now everyone's like, we have an outfit, we had an outfit long jam before the log jam is even worse, you know, once Roman Anthony comes back, he's going to get a chance to showcase himself for a couple of weeks, presumably, um, but he's going to the WBC as well. 13:45.485 --> 13:52.553 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so when the world based on classic is over, and Roman Anthony and Yoshida are returning, is Yoshida still a red sock. 13:52.894 --> 13:57.439 [SPEAKER_00]: Chris Katio explained this week, it may take the red 13:57.419 --> 14:03.968 [SPEAKER_00]: To get your sheet off the roster, even though we know your sheet is a talented hitter, a talented DH, if you're the Red Sox, do you do that? 14:04.028 --> 14:11.058 [SPEAKER_00]: If you are running the Red Sox, Eric Cole, who is the best prospect you include to get your sheet off the roster? 14:11.158 --> 14:16.405 [SPEAKER_00]: Or do you just eat the full contract and bike the bullet and, you know, okay, you wanted a top five? 14:16.425 --> 14:20.170 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, how about we all the money and it's top 20 now, goodbye. 14:21.550 --> 14:32.048 [SPEAKER_01]: just don't understand like, usually when you have to like attach a prospect to a deal like this, it's kind of like a bronze on a rollo, not pitching $20 million a year type of deal. 14:32.750 --> 14:35.675 [SPEAKER_01]: Versus, you know, she can hit just fine. 14:35.955 --> 14:39.762 [SPEAKER_00]: And there are two types of knees used every time he's used, he can hit just fine. 14:40.248 --> 14:42.110 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, defensively is there other questions? 14:42.311 --> 14:48.038 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but at the same time, there are like half a dozen teams in baseball that would just love to have a guy who could take contact with a baseball. 14:48.058 --> 14:48.559 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? 14:48.719 --> 14:50.181 [SPEAKER_01]: And she does good at that. 14:50.201 --> 14:56.829 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't understand why they're just like his contract is purely surplus value that you have to make up for by adding a prospect to, right? 14:56.849 --> 15:03.918 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, the braves did a deal like this once where they attached two feet to Sanctar Rosano Rio to like kind of basically buy a prospect. 15:04.499 --> 15:10.086 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think those deals can make sense, but in the case of the red socks, 15:10.403 --> 15:36.934 [SPEAKER_01]: that like you know she would save them some money but like there's no indication that they have anywhere to spend that money that they want to if you make this move you probably make it earlier in the offseason you don't just like okay well we we don't have to pay them and we're not just spend the money either I mean that that might be like the same kind of the you know villain arc but at the same time I just don't see that as likely I think that there's good they would be some demand for Yoshi to out there I don't think you need a touch of top side prospect I'm not sure I would have touch of top 10 prospect 15:37.910 --> 15:44.078 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I would either, and I think every Red Talks fan who has watched Yoshi to play knows that the bat talent is pretty undisputed. 15:44.139 --> 15:56.896 [SPEAKER_00]: He was, he carried their offense in the postseason series, the 8th stadium last year, as did Nick Sogard and like unexpected sources, but Yoshi to, if what you need is bat on ball of you, a hard hit line drive single, he's your man. 15:56.936 --> 15:59.279 [SPEAKER_00]: The defense doesn't work, imperfect roster fit. 15:59.620 --> 16:07.090 [SPEAKER_00]: For the Red Talks, to say the least, but a good player surprising, they were unable to clear him and surprising, it has come to this point. 16:07.070 --> 16:16.767 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I want your early thoughts on another Japanese star who is making it, you know, it's very first appearance, state side, that's when we're talking about a comedy at White Talks Camp. 16:17.188 --> 16:21.515 [SPEAKER_00]: We have seen the offense, we've seen the power show early, hard to dispute that. 16:21.776 --> 16:24.100 [SPEAKER_00]: We've also seen somewhat limited range third base. 16:24.380 --> 16:30.411 [SPEAKER_00]: I've had to remind myself multiple times that third base might be his ultimate landing spot in Chicago. 16:30.391 --> 16:31.993 [SPEAKER_00]: They've already got the double catchers. 16:32.033 --> 16:33.996 [SPEAKER_00]: They've got Kyle Tierra and Edgar Caro. 16:34.036 --> 16:37.421 [SPEAKER_00]: One goes to first, maybe, one goes to DH probably. 16:38.362 --> 16:40.545 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's why they were flirting with the red socks. 16:40.565 --> 16:46.093 [SPEAKER_00]: We're flirting, we're trying to get Tierra's off season, because there's a log jam in the log jam has made a little walk here by Maracami. 16:46.113 --> 16:51.080 [SPEAKER_00]: But so far, the back in BP is as advertised. 16:51.561 --> 16:52.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Game action, I need to see it. 16:53.103 --> 16:56.888 [SPEAKER_00]: And the defense, I'm confused by the defense, but I'm curious to your thoughts here. 16:58.100 --> 17:03.030 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone had any doubts that Merakomic could put on a show and bet in that in practice. 17:03.050 --> 17:04.473 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 17:04.493 --> 17:12.428 [SPEAKER_01]: Like we knew that was going to be the case, which is why I don't get too hung up on backfield workouts and guys in the cage and stuff like that. 17:13.090 --> 17:15.474 [SPEAKER_01]: But I will say it's nice to see that he's shown some power. 17:15.494 --> 17:18.420 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that his defense is even where his appeal is. 17:18.480 --> 17:20.985 [SPEAKER_01]: It comes down to what he's going to make enough contact for his power to matter. 17:20.965 --> 17:33.140 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to find that out pretty quickly because pictures are generally ahead of hitters and he's going to get plenty of playing time early and if he's like, oh for 12 with 10 strikeouts after the first week, the white socks may have made a mistake in giving him the deal that they did. 17:33.280 --> 17:34.742 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he'll be fine. 17:34.902 --> 17:36.484 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to be super exciting. 17:36.904 --> 17:38.246 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to have a game here and there. 17:38.266 --> 17:38.867 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to hit a ball. 17:38.887 --> 17:47.597 [SPEAKER_01]: We're like how to even hit them all there, but I think there's going to be a lot of games are just like really infuriating young hitter who maybe is a little bit too aggressive on breaking stuff for some good. 17:48.472 --> 17:54.400 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the, again, nobody is maybe better suited to a BP power show than this guy. 17:55.061 --> 17:59.508 [SPEAKER_00]: Now the real fun starts now, Carlos LaGrona is already at one or two point six and where are you? 17:59.888 --> 18:01.931 [SPEAKER_00]: So the pictures are ahead of the hitters. 18:01.951 --> 18:07.639 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the pictures are doing honestly worrisome velocity jumps that they should be holding back for another couple of weeks, a lot of months. 18:07.740 --> 18:12.186 [SPEAKER_00]: But we will see what happens when the cacts to the action begins in earnest. 18:12.266 --> 18:15.070 [SPEAKER_00]: And we are only a few days away from that. 18:15.050 --> 18:24.714 [SPEAKER_00]: One more narrative that sort of sprung up this weekend when Juan Soto arrived at Metzcamp, we have talked a lot about Carson Benz as a potential starter for the New York Metz this year, especially as their athletes. 18:24.814 --> 18:32.012 [SPEAKER_00]: And somewhat thin, and we don't know how much Luis Roberts Jr. you're going to get even if you're training for Luis Roberts Jr. We don't know, you know, 18:31.992 --> 18:36.841 [SPEAKER_00]: you pencil him as much as he wants to, but we're not certain how long he will last in that role. 18:37.382 --> 18:44.555 [SPEAKER_00]: They made run prevention a priority for so David Stern said, it's really hard as I have debated multiple times on Twitter recently. 18:44.936 --> 18:49.244 [SPEAKER_00]: It is really hard to overhaul your team defense and just want off season. 18:49.625 --> 18:52.330 [SPEAKER_00]: But in my opinion, it's not that hard. 18:52.310 --> 18:55.316 [SPEAKER_00]: to just not play people out of position while you're trying to do it. 18:55.416 --> 19:03.112 [SPEAKER_00]: You've got players out of position all across that time and many of their offices and additions were like, okay, we don't want penalans, but what do we want? 19:03.192 --> 19:05.577 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no way they set out. 19:05.776 --> 19:09.379 [SPEAKER_00]: into the Aussies and waters with a white board that said a four-hate polanco at first base. 19:09.399 --> 19:10.320 [SPEAKER_00]: There's just no way. 19:10.600 --> 19:27.716 [SPEAKER_00]: So they are, you know, they've got marginal up, and they are banking on these guys being marginal upgrades, like polanco being better than pedolonso and just saying, okay, better than pedolonso is good enough for us, but that is not remaking your roster in terms of run prevention. 19:27.736 --> 19:35.783 [SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, and so that leads us to bench who is one of the very few real upgrade opportunities 19:35.763 --> 19:44.056 [SPEAKER_00]: If you install him, if the bat plays, then you have genuinely upgraded your defense rather than just saying, well, this new guy is better than really bad. 19:44.536 --> 19:47.461 [SPEAKER_00]: Juan Soto comments at Adam called him a big time prospect in Met's campus weekend, unprompted when he arrived. 19:47.481 --> 19:48.863 [SPEAKER_00]: But he also added, hitting wise I haven't heard much about him. 19:48.883 --> 19:56.995 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit of an oof, but it is also, you know, a little bit of an oof, but it is also, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little bit of an oof, you know, a little 19:57.110 --> 20:07.213 [SPEAKER_00]: underscoring that run prevention thing if that's your thesis and so it was basically saying I heard he's a good bat, but I don't really know much about him, but I know he can defend that sort of telling. 20:07.393 --> 20:10.340 [SPEAKER_00]: So thoughts on how soon he'll be fighting out more about him. 20:10.360 --> 20:11.222 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an offensive player. 20:11.522 --> 20:13.667 [SPEAKER_00]: Does he get a real shot to make the roster out of spree? 20:14.440 --> 20:30.921 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you'll get a real shot, but I think you'll have to show something early because if he's showing something in the plate early that kind of puts him on a path to being an actual upgrade, if he's showing something he's hitting 150 in camp, how can you justify even if he's better in the second half of camp, it's a lot harder to justify putting a kid on the big league roster that way. 20:31.402 --> 20:32.623 [SPEAKER_01]: He is an upgrade defensively. 20:33.044 --> 20:42.456 [SPEAKER_01]: He has a skill set that is a little odd for me too, though, in that all around guys who 20:43.735 --> 20:50.164 [SPEAKER_01]: I've often found that the upside is often lacking and like one of those things ends up not playing, which is kind of unfortunate, right? 20:50.184 --> 20:57.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause then I was suddenly having a guy who's like only kind of okay and maybe he's like, you know, a one or two or a player, which you probably would've expected more from a hotline prospect. 20:58.235 --> 21:10.772 [SPEAKER_01]: But in the case of Benge, I think that he's going to get an earnest look in camp and I think that the bets are open to it, but I also don't think they're gonna bang Donna and if he's like to really struggling early, I wouldn't be shocked at all if he's shuffled off the minorly camp early. 21:10.752 --> 21:12.225 [SPEAKER_01]: And to like, you just don't get ready. 21:12.528 --> 21:14.788 [SPEAKER_01]: When you're ready, we'll book all you up, but it's not right now. 21:15.241 --> 21:28.494 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is something I am prominently keeping eye out again, how well if he struggles, how long do the meds let him struggle and like you said, probably not very long given his importance to the roster the way it's currently constructed, he is crucial. 21:28.774 --> 21:41.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody keep your eyes on spring training, weigh in, join the discord, let us know what you want us to talk about as you're watching these position battles develop, as you're watching prospects get a chance, as you're waiting for La Grande versus judge round three. 21:41.026 --> 21:50.160 [SPEAKER_00]: When he pops out a, I don't know, one of six mile an hour fastball or something else crazy as it is our sort of judge uses a six inch longer back to get that head out or I don't know what's coming. 21:50.641 --> 21:54.287 [SPEAKER_00]: All I know is that spring training is officially upon us. 21:54.848 --> 22:04.503 [SPEAKER_00]: These will continue to develop as the weeks come and depending on how long these guys get how long their leash is, we should see some pretty exciting stuff before some hard decisions are made. 22:04.563 --> 22:06.406 [SPEAKER_00]: For a coal, I am Adam Wider. 22:06.766 --> 22:08.569 [SPEAKER_00]: Take care everybody and we'll see you next week.