WEBVTT 00:00.351 --> 00:06.416 [SPEAKER_01]: The spirit of religion, who we about to kick a hornet's nest with, this one L would, are you ready for it? 00:06.436 --> 00:07.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, might as well be. 00:08.717 --> 00:13.401 [SPEAKER_01]: This discipleship episode with me and Pastor L would is going to be on the spirit of religion. 00:13.601 --> 00:21.807 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to explain biblically of what the spirit of religion actually is, and how it is still here today, just like it was in the day that Jesus walked this earth. 00:22.763 --> 00:40.449 [SPEAKER_00]: absolutely a religious spirit at the money, that's all there is to it and it takes a position of power, it wants a position of power and people's life and so many out there that has this religious spirit, sometimes I don't think they realize they do have it. 00:40.689 --> 00:41.470 [SPEAKER_01]: They know. 00:41.930 --> 00:54.261 [SPEAKER_00]: And because they haven't truly healed their life to Christ, and when people operate out this religious spirit, they attempt to earn a salvation like the Pharisees and scribes did. 00:55.082 --> 01:02.128 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the 23rd chapter of Matthew Beth that whole chapter, Jesus called the scribes and Pharisees, you bunch of hypocrites. 01:02.928 --> 01:22.283 [SPEAKER_00]: and you know they was working now that religious spirit and there is so many today that really, truly, they don't realize they're really working now that kind of a spirit because they just they just want it their way you know and you can't work for salvation they ain't no doubt about that 01:22.843 --> 01:35.927 [SPEAKER_00]: But they had this and some of them don't even realize it until they totally yield up their life to Christ They are working that religious spirit and it's going to get them nowhere. 01:35.947 --> 01:44.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Just going to get them nowhere And so many people right today are sitting in our churches across this land and Their shouting praise the Lord. 01:44.369 --> 01:47.830 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen and all this stuff and but deep down 01:49.150 --> 01:50.871 [SPEAKER_00]: They got this religious spirit about them. 01:50.911 --> 01:54.153 [SPEAKER_00]: It's my way or no way, you know, and it doesn't. 01:54.213 --> 02:00.937 [SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't even give the people time to even think of what they're going through whatsoever. 02:01.365 --> 02:05.147 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the spirit of religion is based on somebody's religious beliefs. 02:05.587 --> 02:13.791 [SPEAKER_01]: So somebody's practices, their faith, their traditions, the things that they have done culturally to be in this religious mindset. 02:13.831 --> 02:16.072 [SPEAKER_01]: Now there's a lot of different religions, tons of them. 02:16.472 --> 02:21.434 [SPEAKER_01]: Now today, with the spirit of religion, we're honing in on the religious spirit of Christianity. 02:21.874 --> 02:26.316 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, a lot of people think that, oh, someone's Christian, that means that they follow Christ. 02:26.717 --> 02:29.458 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's actually a religious spirit behind Christianity. 02:29.758 --> 02:36.144 [SPEAKER_01]: to where the same people like the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the same people live today as they did back in the Bible. 02:36.565 --> 02:44.653 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when we read the Bible and we see about the Pharisees, and you see about the Sadducees, you see these religious leaders, they were held in this highest steam. 02:45.053 --> 02:47.394 [SPEAKER_01]: They were the ones that people would go to for advice. 02:47.414 --> 03:00.940 [SPEAKER_01]: They were the ones that people would go to to repent and to lay arms and they would go to these religious leaders for advice and these religious leaders were acting whole year than now and they didn't even recognize Jesus. 03:01.040 --> 03:08.463 [SPEAKER_01]: When you really truly read the Bible, it's kind of a shocker when you see that the religious leaders were the ones persecuting Jesus. 03:09.124 --> 03:25.462 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that's missed in our day today is that, you know, there are a whole lot of people out here that are being spokesman for the Lord that are working and doing the great commission and then there's these Pharisee mindset type of spirit of religion People out here that are condemning them. 03:25.583 --> 03:26.464 [SPEAKER_01]: They're tearing them down. 03:26.504 --> 03:27.545 [SPEAKER_01]: They're belittling them. 03:27.845 --> 03:31.408 [SPEAKER_01]: They're making them feel like they can't do the works because they haven't went through the hoops. 03:31.448 --> 03:37.834 [SPEAKER_01]: They went through or whatever it may be, but you have all of this still today as we had in the Bible. 03:38.194 --> 03:53.468 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's why I so important to talk about when I first became a Jesus follower, not just somebody that had religion because I grew up in my whole life having religion, but when I started actually following Jesus and working for Jesus, my eyes started really open into the spirit of religion. 03:53.888 --> 04:00.653 [SPEAKER_01]: I started seeing people that had conformed to religion, that had a practice rather than a relationship. 04:00.993 --> 04:11.620 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how I was most of my life is I had this religion and I would go and I would sit in church and I would listen to the preacher and then the rest of the week I'd go about my own way and I'd do my own thing. 04:12.341 --> 04:14.482 [SPEAKER_01]: And I wasn't living for Christ. 04:14.722 --> 04:17.124 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a religion versus a relationship. 04:17.664 --> 04:20.507 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's so many people today that have the same thing. 04:20.547 --> 04:22.169 [SPEAKER_01]: They have a religious spirit. 04:22.469 --> 04:28.034 [SPEAKER_01]: They have a tradition and it overrides the relationship with Jesus. 04:28.635 --> 04:35.482 [SPEAKER_01]: And Circle and back to how I said it with the Pharisees is that they thought they were doing right by God. 04:36.142 --> 04:43.367 [SPEAKER_01]: And they thought they were honoring God, but whenever Jesus came and was literally in front of their face, they rejected him. 04:43.668 --> 04:51.453 [SPEAKER_01]: And not only that, but the hardness of their heart and the anger and the hatred and the envy inside of them is what crucified Jesus. 04:51.553 --> 04:55.756 [SPEAKER_01]: They were out to crucified Jesus as soon as he started his ministry. 04:56.096 --> 04:57.998 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was religious people. 04:58.438 --> 05:11.652 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why it's so important to understand the spirit of religion and to be able to recognize that as Christ followers because if you're out here being Christ like and you are being a disciple of Jesus Christ, then you got to expect it too. 05:11.732 --> 05:17.638 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to see what he walked through and the people he dealt with and that was a lot of religious leaders. 05:18.439 --> 05:19.200 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, you know. 05:21.002 --> 05:35.610 [SPEAKER_00]: people with a religious spirit, they look religious, they act religious, and they're all sweet, nice, but we got to understand that Satan can transform himself into an angel light, and so is 05:36.882 --> 05:38.404 [SPEAKER_00]: the people with a religious spirit. 05:38.605 --> 05:39.646 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 05:40.047 --> 05:45.014 [SPEAKER_00]: Everything's nice, cozy and all this good stuff, but it's a counterfeit. 05:45.715 --> 05:46.816 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really what it is. 05:46.856 --> 05:47.898 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a counterfeit. 05:48.278 --> 05:50.481 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is exactly what Satan loved. 05:50.521 --> 05:51.883 [SPEAKER_00]: He loved the counterfeit. 05:52.424 --> 05:53.465 [SPEAKER_00]: the work of God. 05:54.246 --> 05:55.207 [SPEAKER_00]: However, he can do it. 05:55.767 --> 05:57.689 [SPEAKER_00]: And it causes chaos. 05:57.729 --> 06:00.812 [SPEAKER_00]: It causes confusion and shame and guilt. 06:01.533 --> 06:04.355 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what this religious spirit will do. 06:04.796 --> 06:11.882 [SPEAKER_00]: The manifestation of a religious spirit is someone that will use a person's history. 06:12.723 --> 06:22.127 [SPEAKER_00]: They will use whatever they can against that individual, the circumstances to inflict guilt and pain upon that individual. 06:23.147 --> 06:30.290 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of loving them, the way that Christ wants them to love them, they'll try to inflict things upon them. 06:30.830 --> 06:35.672 [SPEAKER_00]: A person operating in a religious spirit harbors resentment. 06:36.758 --> 06:44.905 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't like what you're doing, they don't like what you're saying, they don't like your testimony, they don't like your teaching, whatever may be the case. 06:45.285 --> 06:49.709 [SPEAKER_00]: So they harbor resentment in their heart and in their life. 06:50.290 --> 06:54.213 [SPEAKER_00]: And they have destructive thoughts for that individual as well. 06:54.833 --> 06:56.475 [SPEAKER_00]: And they just want to tear them down. 06:57.035 --> 07:04.061 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's the same way that Satan will, but they'll tear them down by using God to do it. 07:05.603 --> 07:16.610 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what so many people with this religious spirit does, they want to tear somebody down and by using the name of God in it as well. 07:17.151 --> 07:21.834 [SPEAKER_00]: And so therefore this causes great confusion, this causes great hurt. 07:22.114 --> 07:29.980 [SPEAKER_00]: But this religious spirit is destructive, it's satanic and it absolutely wrecks havoc. 07:30.420 --> 07:34.282 [SPEAKER_00]: and people's lives, and other people's lives that they were going against. 07:34.702 --> 07:39.724 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the same way the Sadducees and the Pharisees and the scribes they was doing. 07:40.504 --> 07:48.127 [SPEAKER_00]: Look at me, how much I pray, or how long my robe is, or the way that I act, or whatever. 07:48.167 --> 07:50.428 [SPEAKER_00]: But they just want to put burdens up on the people. 07:51.608 --> 07:52.789 [SPEAKER_00]: they couldn't handle as well. 07:53.269 --> 07:58.950 [SPEAKER_00]: So stay away from this religious spirit that people, some people have. 07:59.410 --> 08:06.552 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I say, I think some of them don't even realize even God it, because they're doing it all in the name of religion, religion. 08:06.832 --> 08:14.934 [SPEAKER_00]: And so therefore we're going to add a talk like Jesus and act like Jesus, walk like Jesus, let us do things like Jesus. 08:15.514 --> 08:17.054 [SPEAKER_00]: And therefore 08:19.375 --> 08:20.476 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, Neil Wood. 08:20.837 --> 08:22.118 [SPEAKER_01]: Paul had a religious spirit. 08:22.198 --> 08:22.759 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he did. 08:22.779 --> 08:26.983 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Paul went about his entire beginning of his life, persecuting Christians. 08:27.343 --> 08:29.325 [SPEAKER_01]: And he thought he was doing this for God. 08:29.646 --> 08:31.147 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he thought he was working for God. 08:31.207 --> 08:35.412 [SPEAKER_01]: As he was having all of this hatred and pulling people out of their houses. 08:35.832 --> 08:53.738 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 09:01.020 --> 09:18.525 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this man was once literally dragging us out by our hair and now you've come to tell us about Jesus Yeah, and the the big difference and the big contrast was that Paul had a religious spirit He was delivered of that religious spirit and now he has a relationship with Jesus 09:18.805 --> 09:23.829 [SPEAKER_01]: So he went from operating from a spirit of religion to now operating from the love of Christ. 09:24.230 --> 09:43.847 [SPEAKER_01]: And that shows in the entire times in his letters, in his walk that you see in the Bible, you know, the New Testament talks about Paul a lot and when you read about Paul and you read about his walk and how much he did for the Lord Jesus Christ, then you can understand that all of this comes from a person that was much religious. 09:43.947 --> 09:45.709 [SPEAKER_01]: It comes from a person that once, 09:46.149 --> 10:13.220 [SPEAKER_01]: persecuted Christians but then was woke up to it and this gives us great hope because even when we see in our world today that someone is very religious when we see some body that you know is is whole year then now who is belittling who is you know condemning who is working from this religious spirit there's hope for them Yes, we look at Paul and so it's a beautiful thing don't give up on people just if they have a spirit of religion you know there's a lot of people watching this that may have a family member 10:13.620 --> 10:19.343 [SPEAKER_01]: That you're just like, man, I am trying so hard to show them the love of Christ, but it is hard to break them out of that show. 10:19.563 --> 10:25.386 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you see this story with Paul, and it's inspiring to know that people can be shook from that religion. 10:25.406 --> 10:26.107 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 10:26.127 --> 10:34.391 [SPEAKER_01]: And they can wake up and they can see the love of Christ and start leading with love rather than guilt, shame, or condemnation, or pride. 10:34.771 --> 10:36.952 [SPEAKER_01]: Because people with religion, man, let me tell you. 10:38.053 --> 10:57.777 [SPEAKER_01]: they have pride and they have a lot of things that are not of Jesus and so you know the comparison here it's it's real it's biblical you can read about it you can see the comparison of people that was working from a religious spirit versus people that are working for Christ there is a difference a massive difference and it's important to study the Bible and to see it. 10:57.997 --> 10:59.438 [SPEAKER_00]: You know Paul thought he's doing good. 11:00.139 --> 11:04.683 [SPEAKER_00]: When he was persecuting a church, he really thought that he was doing good. 11:05.243 --> 11:11.309 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think a lot of the time that people with a really religious spirit, they think they're doing good as well. 11:11.789 --> 11:15.252 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're doing good because they're going to give them a piece of their mind. 11:17.434 --> 11:23.642 [SPEAKER_00]: instead of praying for Him, and loving for Him, and you know, pull that good dirt up randomly. 11:24.082 --> 11:35.757 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, as a new Christian, when they're coming up, I know sometimes that the older Christians, they can look at them and tell everything they're doing wrong, everything they're doing wrong. 11:36.357 --> 11:44.806 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of knocking them down, help nurture them, you know, help love them, the way that Christ will love them. 11:45.286 --> 11:51.733 [SPEAKER_00]: But Paul, he thought he was doing what was right and I'm sure there's a lot of people with a religious spirit today. 11:51.753 --> 11:53.535 [SPEAKER_00]: They think they're doing what's right. 11:54.035 --> 11:55.757 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to confront this person. 11:56.218 --> 12:00.362 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to confront them the way they testify, the way they think, or whatever may be the case. 12:01.343 --> 12:03.085 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not your place to do that. 12:03.305 --> 12:05.027 [SPEAKER_00]: It is not your place to do that. 12:05.488 --> 12:10.012 [SPEAKER_00]: You nurture them, you love them, and let Christ speak to their heart. 12:10.053 --> 12:11.955 [SPEAKER_00]: Let Christ bring them, and he will. 12:12.415 --> 12:12.875 [SPEAKER_00]: He will. 12:13.256 --> 12:24.644 [SPEAKER_00]: But when we got that old hardened heart and that hardened mind, that we're right for the no matter what anybody else thinks, then it's hard for Christ to deal with those people. 12:25.145 --> 12:32.690 [SPEAKER_00]: Until they get a spirit of compassion and love that we're Christ can deal with them, they will stay like that. 12:33.251 --> 12:33.411 [SPEAKER_00]: But 12:34.812 --> 12:56.297 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, people with a spirit of religion, they need to come out from that mess, and it is because if you just got a religion, I've tried religion, it didn't work, it does not work, but when you get a relationship with Jesus Christ, and when you talk with Him and every day pray to Him and meditate upon Him, 12:56.877 --> 13:12.124 [SPEAKER_00]: Every day he'll open up the doors of your life, he'll open up the doors of your mind, and he'll let you see just exactly who you are, and where you're at, and if you have a spirit of religion, he'll let you know that as well. 13:12.704 --> 13:15.746 [SPEAKER_00]: and it's going to be up to you to get rid of that rascal. 13:15.926 --> 13:16.826 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be up to you. 13:17.146 --> 13:24.830 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, Satan will transform himself into an angel of light and soul will people with a spirit of religion. 13:25.231 --> 13:28.933 [SPEAKER_00]: They are transformed themselves into their right no matter what. 13:29.013 --> 13:39.258 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what, put the love of Christ upon you and let Christ deal with them and let people when they got a testimony of what's good things the Lord is doing for people in a life. 13:39.818 --> 13:43.402 [SPEAKER_00]: And then they walk up to him and says, you don't need to be saying that or what show ever. 13:43.903 --> 13:47.847 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you what, those people right there, they're walking on thin ice. 13:47.907 --> 13:48.708 [SPEAKER_00]: They really are. 13:49.068 --> 13:49.709 [SPEAKER_01]: They really are. 13:49.729 --> 13:50.890 [SPEAKER_01]: They really are. 13:50.950 --> 13:52.071 [SPEAKER_01]: They're really. 13:52.091 --> 13:52.472 [SPEAKER_01]: They're really. 13:52.492 --> 13:52.852 [SPEAKER_01]: They're really. 13:52.872 --> 13:53.252 [SPEAKER_01]: They're really. 13:54.914 --> 13:57.055 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jesus calls him a lot of things too. 13:57.155 --> 14:01.478 [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus, you know, he was very bold when he confronted the religious leaders. 14:01.558 --> 14:06.201 [SPEAKER_01]: He was not a squamous, you know, he looked at them and he called them what they were. 14:06.562 --> 14:08.123 [SPEAKER_01]: And so he called them a hypocrite. 14:08.143 --> 14:09.383 [SPEAKER_01]: He called them brood of vipers. 14:09.443 --> 14:11.605 [SPEAKER_01]: He called them white wash tubes. 14:12.105 --> 14:21.672 [SPEAKER_01]: He called them all kinds of things and he was being very transparent with them because this is how they were acting and so you know I want to bring up the topic of Christianity. 14:21.892 --> 14:28.778 [SPEAKER_01]: Though Christianity is a religion and so there is a difference in having religion and a religious spirit. 14:29.158 --> 14:39.125 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to explain that because you know any any faith based belief is a form of religion and so religion in itself is not a terrible thing because it's a faith 14:40.066 --> 14:45.688 [SPEAKER_01]: around your beliefs, what you believe in, who you believe in, and in our case we believe in Jesus Christ. 14:46.308 --> 14:52.190 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know when you believe in Jesus and you believe in the Word of God and you believe in the Bible, then that is a form of religion. 14:52.390 --> 14:52.710 [SPEAKER_01]: It is. 14:53.150 --> 15:03.753 [SPEAKER_01]: But however, the spirit of religion and a religious spirit is somebody who operates from a different standpoint, a different mindset, and it's not often for Christ. 15:04.273 --> 15:07.856 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's kind of like Paul was in the beginning where he was persecuting Christians. 15:07.896 --> 15:10.237 [SPEAKER_01]: He was working and operating for self. 15:10.638 --> 15:14.260 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if he didn't realize it, even if he didn't understand it, he was prideful. 15:14.300 --> 15:25.068 [SPEAKER_01]: He was arrogant, and he was working in what he thought was for God, but really it was condemnation, it was judgment, it was shame, it was hurt, and all these things go against Christ. 15:25.388 --> 15:35.532 [SPEAKER_01]: When somebody has a spirit of religion, usually it follows with those things, it follows with arrogance and pride and hatred and envy and all the things like the Bible describes. 15:35.572 --> 15:50.757 [SPEAKER_01]: The Bible describes what a Pharisee is and I know that people in this day and time don't like to hear that but we have modern day Pharisees, we still have people that even if they're not calling themselves in that religious sect there, it's still the same principles. 15:50.857 --> 15:52.918 [SPEAKER_01]: It's somebody that has a spirit of religion. 15:53.458 --> 15:56.780 [SPEAKER_01]: and they are being as if the Pharisees and the Sadducees of the Bible. 15:57.181 --> 16:07.768 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, whether they call themselves a Christian and they're in this organization, in this religion, they become a religious spirit operating from something completely different and demonic. 16:08.488 --> 16:11.250 [SPEAKER_01]: And it is demonic because it's going against Christ. 16:11.350 --> 16:13.771 [SPEAKER_01]: Anything that goes against Christ is demonic. 16:13.911 --> 16:14.691 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not of God. 16:15.011 --> 16:18.713 [SPEAKER_01]: It's of the demonic, it's of the spiritual realm that is against God. 16:18.733 --> 16:19.374 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:19.394 --> 16:24.456 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's why we categorize it as a spirit of religion or a religious spirit. 16:24.776 --> 16:26.257 [SPEAKER_01]: Because there is a spirit behind it. 16:26.457 --> 16:28.618 [SPEAKER_01]: The spirit behind it is to tear down to 16:30.119 --> 16:35.201 [SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to building the kingdom of God, you're building up the kingdom of God, spirit of religions tearing it down. 16:35.521 --> 16:45.625 [SPEAKER_01]: It's belittling, it's condemning, it's hatred, whereas the spirit of Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is guiding you is of love, of kindness, of the fruit of the Spirit. 16:45.866 --> 16:49.307 [SPEAKER_01]: And anything opposite of the fruit of the Spirit is the spirit of religion. 16:49.607 --> 16:55.795 [SPEAKER_01]: It operates from anger and hatred and in the angelic sea and strife and all these things. 16:55.835 --> 17:06.990 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a huge comparison there of seeing whenever somebody is just religious in their faith or if they are operating from a spirit of religion and it's demonic. 17:07.410 --> 17:10.211 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that's the best way that I can explain it. 17:10.311 --> 17:15.393 [SPEAKER_01]: You get in your word, then you can understand and study that self-approved, and you can see the difference. 17:15.693 --> 17:27.018 [SPEAKER_01]: You can see somebody that has a religious belief, faith, and they walk in faith versus somebody that has a spirit of religion, and they are operating demonically. 17:27.378 --> 17:32.668 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're absolutely, you know, I wrote down four things about spiritual religion. 17:33.369 --> 17:36.835 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of them is they crave positions. 17:37.216 --> 17:38.959 [SPEAKER_00]: They crave a position. 17:41.372 --> 17:42.773 [SPEAKER_00]: a position of honor. 17:43.273 --> 17:54.499 [SPEAKER_00]: They want to, they want people to see them the same way that the Pharisees and Sadducees describe and Philippians 2 and 3 and 4 says, let nothing be done through strife or vanglory. 17:55.179 --> 18:00.602 [SPEAKER_00]: But in loneliness of mind, let each esteem others better than themselves. 18:01.102 --> 18:07.626 [SPEAKER_00]: They want to be recognized, they want to be commended, they want all this. 18:08.046 --> 18:09.466 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is so close 18:10.627 --> 18:11.287 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is. 18:11.347 --> 18:22.373 [SPEAKER_00]: In their life, but people, they just, they just crave a position that people will look at them and pat them up on the back and say, look at that, look at this and everything like that. 18:22.473 --> 18:23.634 [SPEAKER_00]: I've always been careful. 18:24.214 --> 18:25.575 [SPEAKER_00]: I have always been careful. 18:25.595 --> 18:38.822 [SPEAKER_00]: If I went to different churches in prison, well they're patched on the back, say, what a good job you did and everything like that and I know, I know the same, I know the same hand that can patch you on the back can also stab you in a bag. 18:39.602 --> 18:53.811 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know this and I've always watched this, they'll let this pride and let this thing be started swelling up inside and they say it's me and it's the same way with people with a religious spirit. 18:54.311 --> 18:57.974 [SPEAKER_00]: They let their mind, it's like I said, it's a so close. 18:58.414 --> 19:15.089 [SPEAKER_00]: to pride, but they want to be recognized, they want to be commended, and they just want to pass up on the backs, they look at me the same way with, when I read that 23rd chapter of Matthew last night, I thought, my goodness, here we are. 19:15.230 --> 19:15.530 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 19:15.850 --> 19:23.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Here we are, and this is a way that some people are that has the spirit religion, the church can't function without me. 19:24.437 --> 19:28.779 [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm not sitting on the board, they're not getting nothing done or whatever may be the place. 19:28.959 --> 19:41.124 [SPEAKER_00]: In God places you end up positioned that He wants you, I'll guarantee you will have a lonely heart, you'll have a compassion and can, and you won't desire a position. 19:41.644 --> 19:47.707 [SPEAKER_00]: Number two, they have a judgmental attitude of other believers. 19:48.806 --> 19:52.508 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, it's made me with a porcupine and call me short. 19:52.568 --> 19:56.790 [SPEAKER_00]: They have a judgment attitude of other believers. 19:56.890 --> 19:57.231 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 19:57.771 --> 20:02.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Why should Christians be judgmental of somebody else? 20:02.453 --> 20:04.475 [SPEAKER_01]: It was about to stand up and preach. 20:04.735 --> 20:10.058 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Matthew seven five says, it's our hypocrite. 20:10.778 --> 20:14.000 [SPEAKER_00]: First cast out the beam out of thy own eye. 20:14.980 --> 20:19.643 [SPEAKER_00]: and then shout out clearly cast out the motel of thy brothers. 20:21.344 --> 20:25.107 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so easy for us to say, well, that person's got a problem. 20:25.147 --> 20:26.608 [SPEAKER_00]: And I got a problem with that person. 20:26.928 --> 20:28.689 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're not looking back at their sale. 20:29.090 --> 20:33.833 [SPEAKER_00]: When you got that finger pointed that away, understand you got three pointed back at you. 20:34.653 --> 20:49.756 [SPEAKER_00]: You got three and so so many of them will not cast out the mode of their own abacos are they're holy and righteous And they're their God's gift to humanity or the church or whatsoever while belittling other believers 20:50.637 --> 21:13.797 [SPEAKER_00]: that's a religious spirit is exactly what that is and it's just like other singers gets jealous of other singers I can sing better than that other preachers get jealous of other preachers I can preach better than that or whatsoever you know I could do a better job I can draw more people that's a religious spirit in your life let the Lord move upon to get to get the beam out of 21:17.703 --> 21:20.129 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you what, I'm gonna start with you, I would. 21:20.309 --> 21:26.845 [SPEAKER_00]: They refuse to change and they will reject change because of the pride that has crimp in. 21:28.304 --> 21:31.865 [SPEAKER_00]: Some people will not change no matter what. 21:31.905 --> 21:32.286 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:32.566 --> 21:36.307 [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't take a two before and beat them half to death and get them to change. 21:36.887 --> 21:42.030 [SPEAKER_00]: They're set in their ways and they are not going to change for nobody. 21:42.330 --> 21:42.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody. 21:43.190 --> 21:50.113 [SPEAKER_00]: Romans 8 and 4 says that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us who won't not after the flesh. 21:50.913 --> 22:01.061 [SPEAKER_00]: but after the Spirit, when you walk after the Spirit, the Spirit of God will lead you and guide you into all truths. 22:01.501 --> 22:03.042 [SPEAKER_00]: He will show you where you're at. 22:03.583 --> 22:05.824 [SPEAKER_00]: He will show you if you've got bitterness in your life. 22:05.905 --> 22:13.430 [SPEAKER_00]: If you've got this pride in your heart, he will show you and it's up to you by the hip of the Lord to change. 22:13.931 --> 22:16.252 [SPEAKER_00]: But so many people will not change. 22:16.613 --> 22:19.095 [SPEAKER_00]: A religious spirit appears to be something. 22:19.595 --> 22:20.956 [SPEAKER_00]: that it is not. 22:21.517 --> 22:22.297 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, come on. 22:22.557 --> 22:41.113 [SPEAKER_00]: In so many people, this is a very recent that our church world, our church world is in such a mess because we have people going to church on Sunday morning, a praise in their hand, a shout-in-how, allure, amen standing to their feet and going right down the street as somebody says something to them. 22:41.533 --> 22:44.496 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen, just cuss them up one side and down the other. 22:45.016 --> 22:49.618 [SPEAKER_00]: And come out from the mocks and be a separate, set the Lord and touch not the unclean thing. 22:50.198 --> 22:52.340 [SPEAKER_00]: And we are a separated people. 22:52.800 --> 22:54.180 [SPEAKER_00]: We are a separated people. 22:54.661 --> 22:55.461 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got one more. 22:56.762 --> 23:00.323 [SPEAKER_00]: A religious spirit is nothing but a broken sister. 23:00.784 --> 23:01.264 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man. 23:02.230 --> 23:03.291 [SPEAKER_00]: a broken system. 23:03.791 --> 23:04.911 [SPEAKER_00]: It leaves us dry. 23:05.532 --> 23:06.692 [SPEAKER_00]: It leaves us empty. 23:07.273 --> 23:08.533 [SPEAKER_00]: It leaves us stuck. 23:09.233 --> 23:10.214 [SPEAKER_00]: It cannot hold water. 23:11.114 --> 23:12.835 [SPEAKER_00]: It cannot hold water. 23:13.295 --> 23:15.116 [SPEAKER_00]: It is a form of godliness. 23:15.457 --> 23:17.578 [SPEAKER_00]: This is exactly what it is. 23:18.078 --> 23:19.498 [SPEAKER_00]: John 4 and 4 things to hear. 23:19.539 --> 23:20.799 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what Jesus said. 23:21.259 --> 23:25.201 [SPEAKER_00]: But who served drinketh of the water that I ask you I'll give him. 23:25.321 --> 23:26.502 [SPEAKER_00]: Shall never thirst. 23:26.902 --> 23:28.563 [SPEAKER_00]: But the water that I shall give him. 23:28.603 --> 23:28.783 [SPEAKER_00]: Shall 23:30.804 --> 23:33.185 [SPEAKER_00]: springing up in the everlasting lives. 23:34.846 --> 23:38.947 [SPEAKER_00]: A people with a spirit of religion cannot hold water. 23:39.727 --> 23:48.651 [SPEAKER_00]: They cannot hold water, and that well that Jesus Christ has placed in our life, amen if they got this religious spirit, it will not stay there. 23:49.131 --> 23:50.672 [SPEAKER_00]: It's be a crack system. 23:51.072 --> 23:55.754 [SPEAKER_00]: It what goes in will just absolutely run up, and they will be 23:56.614 --> 24:12.971 [SPEAKER_00]: walking in that religious mindset that they have, and the spirit of the living God, the water that He is placed in that well, that He's placed in her heart, will won't be springing up because it has so much animosity towards the other believers or whatever may be the case. 24:13.371 --> 24:16.334 [SPEAKER_00]: And so therefore, they have nothing to give, right? 24:16.634 --> 24:17.535 [SPEAKER_00]: They have nothing to give. 24:17.875 --> 24:20.118 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm on my soapbox today. 24:20.538 --> 24:21.438 [SPEAKER_01]: Flip the table. 24:21.598 --> 24:28.120 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know why anybody would want to be a Pharisee or a Sadacy or a religious leader like that. 24:28.180 --> 24:41.643 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know why anybody would want to replicate a religious leader of the Bible, because when you read the Bible and you see it, and you can actually compare it to our world today, and you can see the difference in what a disciple of Christ was. 24:42.023 --> 24:50.345 [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody that was lowly, they were humble, and they went out here, like even whenever they went out to Batu, Jesus sent them to Batu to take nothing with them. 24:50.665 --> 25:10.312 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they went out with nothing and they worked for Christ they were a vessel and to be a disciple you are truly being a vessel for the Lord Jesus Christ, the hands and the feet and you're going out and working in the power and authority of Jesus and it's so vastly different in contrast to what a Pharisee does. 25:10.932 --> 25:15.257 [SPEAKER_01]: And we see this because Jesus tells us to follow Him as Christ followers. 25:15.297 --> 25:16.738 [SPEAKER_01]: We are to follow Jesus, right? 25:17.299 --> 25:21.022 [SPEAKER_01]: But then you see all the people that strive to be religious leaders. 25:21.083 --> 25:22.904 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's still happening in our day and age. 25:23.185 --> 25:24.866 [SPEAKER_01]: You have a church on every corner. 25:25.247 --> 25:26.668 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying they're all bad. 25:26.708 --> 25:28.230 [SPEAKER_01]: There's some great churches out there. 25:28.530 --> 25:33.213 [SPEAKER_01]: We also have a lot of churches that are operating from a spirit of religion, and that's it. 25:33.493 --> 25:40.177 [SPEAKER_01]: It is a conformed religious group that is gathering there, Sunday after Sunday is the same. 25:40.497 --> 25:41.898 [SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing changing. 25:41.958 --> 25:46.401 [SPEAKER_01]: The same people are coming, sitting in the same views, and leaving the same. 25:46.881 --> 25:51.704 [SPEAKER_01]: And every bit of that is not the living God, God's not moving in that situation. 25:51.724 --> 25:54.626 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not moving in that church, or it wouldn't be the same. 25:55.046 --> 25:57.868 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when Christ changes us, He transforms you. 25:58.528 --> 26:17.421 [SPEAKER_01]: and it's a continual journey like every single day I wake up and Jesus has something new for me and it's a refreshing, it's an anointing and you go forth and you walk in it and you want to tell people about Christ and you want to make heaven crowded and but yet there's so many people that are in this spirit of religion and they do none of that. 26:17.701 --> 26:20.083 [SPEAKER_01]: They never work for Christ, they never spread the gospel. 26:20.563 --> 26:21.504 [SPEAKER_01]: It is just religion. 26:21.704 --> 26:22.084 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. 26:22.144 --> 26:23.465 [SPEAKER_01]: They have a spirit of religion. 26:23.825 --> 26:28.448 [SPEAKER_01]: week after week, it is traditions of man, and there's no change. 26:28.828 --> 26:30.729 [SPEAKER_01]: But you can clearly see this in the Bible. 26:30.969 --> 26:37.553 [SPEAKER_01]: I understand that people will get offended whenever they hear these kind of things, because it can be upsetting when you're the one doing it. 26:38.674 --> 26:42.036 [SPEAKER_01]: But this is how we change, this is how you repent, and this is how you change, is that 26:42.696 --> 26:43.657 [SPEAKER_01]: you read the Bible. 26:44.277 --> 26:45.478 [SPEAKER_01]: Read the Bible. 26:45.558 --> 26:46.419 [SPEAKER_01]: It is all there. 26:46.539 --> 26:49.382 [SPEAKER_01]: You can literally see the religious leaders. 26:49.462 --> 26:54.226 [SPEAKER_01]: They did the same things and we had the same form of them today, the spirit of religion. 26:54.846 --> 27:03.914 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you can see the contrast of those out here working for Jesus, being disciples of Christ, building the body of Christ, there is a difference, a massive difference. 27:04.194 --> 27:07.437 [SPEAKER_01]: And when your eyes are open to that body, they can't be changed. 27:07.557 --> 27:14.680 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you see somebody, I shake the hands of lots of pastors in my position that I'm in, and in yours, you've got lots of Pastor Buds. 27:15.380 --> 27:24.663 [SPEAKER_01]: And I shake the hands of lots of pastors, and sometimes I'm like, man, Jesus is using you, and you know, go on, your church is doing amazing. 27:25.003 --> 27:29.225 [SPEAKER_01]: And then sometimes I look at them right in the eyes, and I'm like, you've got a spirit of religion. 27:29.705 --> 27:32.346 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's nothing, it's like you said earlier, Elwood. 27:32.626 --> 27:34.847 [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many of them, you can't shake out of it. 27:35.187 --> 27:36.549 [SPEAKER_01]: you can't break them out of it. 27:36.729 --> 27:43.236 [SPEAKER_01]: It is their mindset and there is nothing that can move them from it except a revelation from Jesus. 27:43.556 --> 27:51.024 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're going to need a Paul moment of the road to Damascus for them to change because there are so many people that it just baffles me though. 27:51.044 --> 27:52.366 [SPEAKER_01]: They read the same Bible. 27:52.846 --> 27:59.128 [SPEAKER_01]: And how could you read the same Bible and not relate and say, hey, I am this person, not this one. 27:59.228 --> 28:03.610 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I am being a religious leader and not a Jesus follower. 28:04.030 --> 28:05.771 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just, it's so wild to me. 28:05.851 --> 28:12.373 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand how they can't be woke up from the moment they're reading the Bible and they compare themselves to, you know, who am I? 28:12.433 --> 28:14.313 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, who do I represent? 28:14.413 --> 28:18.595 [SPEAKER_01]: As I'm reading this word and I look at my life, who do I represent the Bible? 28:19.115 --> 28:23.662 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's a healthy question that people should ask themselves, too, who do you represent? 28:24.002 --> 28:26.766 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, because we should represent Christ. 28:26.887 --> 28:28.349 [SPEAKER_01]: You are a believer of Christ. 28:28.409 --> 28:29.791 [SPEAKER_01]: You should be a reflection of Christ. 28:29.831 --> 28:31.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Paul says, imitate me like I am a take Christ. 28:32.234 --> 28:33.276 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you imitating Christ? 28:33.676 --> 28:35.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Or are you imitating religious leaders? 28:35.539 --> 28:37.781 [SPEAKER_01]: you know, but calls that's a difference there. 28:38.021 --> 28:40.403 [SPEAKER_01]: The religious leaders condemned and crucified Jesus. 28:40.923 --> 28:48.409 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a time for self-reflection upon people that are in religion to see if they are operating from a spirit of religion or not. 28:48.989 --> 28:51.031 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it's not too late. 28:51.431 --> 28:53.913 [SPEAKER_01]: In Jesus has mercy and forgiveness for everybody. 28:53.953 --> 28:55.774 [SPEAKER_01]: He can change your whole life. 28:55.814 --> 29:00.258 [SPEAKER_01]: He can change your commission, your assignment if you just surrender to him. 29:00.738 --> 29:05.402 [SPEAKER_00]: it took me three years to leave three long years. 29:05.803 --> 29:08.705 [SPEAKER_00]: It took me three long years before I ever answered the call. 29:08.986 --> 29:18.755 [SPEAKER_00]: He called me out then it was just at the right right time and so I'm privileged I really am blessed. 29:19.538 --> 29:28.903 [SPEAKER_01]: It's, do you realize a pattern that a lot of religious leaders, a lot of people that are operating in religious spirits, they don't care about the people? 29:29.824 --> 29:46.853 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a sad thing because they can pack out a church, they can have people there Sunday after Sunday, and, you know, they have a widow over here mourning, they have somebody over here that is just crippled with anxiety, they have somebody over here that's in addiction, they have somebody over here that is struggling with infirmities. 29:47.493 --> 29:50.154 [SPEAKER_01]: And is the hands ever placed on the sick in their healed? 29:50.574 --> 29:51.915 [SPEAKER_01]: Is demons ever cast out? 29:52.835 --> 29:59.758 [SPEAKER_01]: It is the great commission to cast out demons and to lay your hands and heal the sick and to operate in the spirit of the living God. 30:00.701 --> 30:08.363 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's just an unfortunate thing that we're seeing in our church world is that there's not a whole lot of people that are leaving change. 30:09.003 --> 30:21.666 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's where it's sorrowful when you actually look at it because, you know, I'm brought back to the scripture where Jesus walks in a synagogue and there's somebody there with the crippled hand and it's the Sabbath. 30:21.966 --> 30:27.107 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, you're not technically according to the religious laws, supposed to heal on the Sabbath. 30:31.289 --> 30:41.161 [SPEAKER_01]: And what happens in the church is something that is is the same in our modern day society is that instead of rejoicing and celebrating they threw him out. 30:42.022 --> 30:43.323 [SPEAKER_01]: They threw him out of the church. 30:43.464 --> 30:48.470 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't want him in the church no more because he healed the sick. 30:48.830 --> 31:00.415 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, in what world does that make sense, like it in the only way it does to somebody that isn't religious mindset is that in their minds, the law is above Christ, like literally. 31:00.435 --> 31:05.036 [SPEAKER_01]: That is the religious mindset is that their laws are above all else. 31:05.136 --> 31:15.120 [SPEAKER_01]: And so even Jesus being here in the flesh, performing this miracle, they still denounced him, they still rebuked him, and they didn't accept him. 31:15.160 --> 31:16.261 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is religious 31:16.861 --> 31:17.201 [SPEAKER_01]: people. 31:17.822 --> 31:20.484 [SPEAKER_01]: These people were gathering in synagogues. 31:20.844 --> 31:23.806 [SPEAKER_01]: They were preaching from the Torah, which is the Bible. 31:24.146 --> 31:25.087 [SPEAKER_01]: They were preaching. 31:25.387 --> 31:26.268 [SPEAKER_01]: They were teaching. 31:26.848 --> 31:32.413 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet when Jesus came in and showed them who he was and healed the sick. 31:33.013 --> 31:33.733 [SPEAKER_01]: they rejected him. 31:34.113 --> 31:36.234 [SPEAKER_01]: And we are seeing the same thing today. 31:36.514 --> 31:37.254 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not changed. 31:37.475 --> 31:38.475 [SPEAKER_01]: It's all biblical. 31:38.695 --> 31:45.937 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're walking and talking like Jesus and being a disciple of Christ and following Christ, you got to see this too. 31:46.137 --> 31:56.601 [SPEAKER_01]: Your eyes have to eventually be opened up to the spirit of religion, to see the truth of it, to be able to see the Bible and to understand that there was religious leaders then. 31:56.941 --> 32:03.526 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's religious leaders now and you got to also understand how to handle them because what did Jesus do in that scenario? 32:04.007 --> 32:08.070 [SPEAKER_01]: When Jesus was kicked out and they were about to throw him off a cliff, he just went the other way. 32:08.130 --> 32:13.274 [SPEAKER_01]: He shook the dust off his feet and he moved along and continued his mission and his commission. 32:13.634 --> 32:14.835 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you got to do too. 32:15.335 --> 32:24.923 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've been church hurt, if you've been rejected, if you've been told all five pastor, I don't know your personal scenario, but I know I have been in a lot of scenarios. 32:24.963 --> 32:28.406 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been church hurt, I've been rejected, and I've been torn down by a pastor. 32:28.726 --> 32:35.531 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you've had any of that happen in your life, understand that it is a delight because it happened to Jesus too. 32:36.012 --> 32:38.393 [SPEAKER_01]: It happened to Jesus, and it happened to you. 32:38.454 --> 32:39.174 [SPEAKER_01]: What a blessing. 32:39.594 --> 32:43.958 [SPEAKER_01]: What a blessing that they treated you the same way they would treat Jesus, what a blessing. 32:44.258 --> 32:53.501 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, you know when they let the man down to the roof, where Jesus was, and he healed a man. 32:54.041 --> 32:55.242 [SPEAKER_00]: The Pharisees were sitting there. 32:55.282 --> 32:56.202 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were mad. 32:56.322 --> 33:00.103 [SPEAKER_00]: But they didn't like it one bit because it was a Sabbath, you know. 33:00.603 --> 33:02.144 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't do this on the Sabbath. 33:02.884 --> 33:09.149 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said, let you know that the son of man has power to heal and to forgive sins. 33:09.629 --> 33:12.131 [SPEAKER_00]: He told him to take up his bed and walk out that place. 33:12.632 --> 33:16.294 [SPEAKER_00]: But they went, they was there, not for worship. 33:16.635 --> 33:21.819 [SPEAKER_00]: They was there to try to trap Jesus and to something that see what he was going to do. 33:22.559 --> 33:24.781 [SPEAKER_00]: And I hate to think about this sometime. 33:24.801 --> 33:25.602 [SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes, 33:26.282 --> 33:32.506 [SPEAKER_00]: people, computers, just to see how that was going to react or see this or see that or whatever may be the case. 33:32.867 --> 33:38.650 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of coming to worship the Lord, I was talking to a lady and her husband, a Sunday. 33:39.091 --> 33:42.573 [SPEAKER_00]: And I said, the work is not in the full walls. 33:43.334 --> 33:45.215 [SPEAKER_00]: It is not in the full walls. 33:45.635 --> 33:47.697 [SPEAKER_00]: The work is outside of those full walls. 33:48.097 --> 33:50.378 [SPEAKER_00]: And those folks, we were sitting and we had 33:51.719 --> 34:01.328 [SPEAKER_00]: and said, go into church as for you go get fueled up and to go back out into the world because the work is not in the full walls. 34:02.029 --> 34:03.090 [SPEAKER_00]: It's outside of there. 34:03.610 --> 34:05.992 [SPEAKER_00]: It's outside in the world out there. 34:06.633 --> 34:11.938 [SPEAKER_00]: And so often people have forgotten that we just go church on Sunday and that's what we do. 34:12.518 --> 34:15.380 [SPEAKER_00]: And they get that religious spirit about them, and that's what they'll do. 34:15.420 --> 34:21.562 [SPEAKER_00]: They'll just be comfortable with going, setting, and listening, and getting up and going back home. 34:22.123 --> 34:37.450 [SPEAKER_00]: When you go get fueled up to go back out, to pray with people, to lift people up, and tell them about Jesus that says, and Jesus that delivers, and Jesus that will turn your life upside down for the better. 34:37.730 --> 34:44.575 [SPEAKER_01]: Yo, religious spirit is real, and that like I said, it is not just in the biblical time period, we see it here now. 34:44.995 --> 34:49.899 [SPEAKER_01]: It is important to know what it is, how to recognize it, and then what to do about it. 34:50.219 --> 34:56.024 [SPEAKER_01]: And as we said in this discipleship episode, if you were Christ like, then you're going to handle it the same way that Christ did. 34:56.484 --> 34:58.365 [SPEAKER_01]: And I really pray that this has helped you today. 34:58.766 --> 35:01.368 [SPEAKER_01]: And get in your word and study it that self-approved. 35:01.848 --> 35:06.171 [SPEAKER_01]: May God bless you, and we will see you soon with another episode of the discipleship series. 35:06.612 --> 35:07.012 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye-bye.