WEBVTT 00:04.192 --> 00:16.136 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell him, I said, well we're celebrating our anniversary, tell him which one I did and you said, can you believe it, they should have comped home the last six years. 00:30.190 --> 00:34.832 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, welcome back to between Sundays with the Chandlers. 00:34.912 --> 00:36.733 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a big one for me personally. 00:37.513 --> 00:47.998 [SPEAKER_01]: I know a long could probably speak to it too, but as a young man, there were a few voices that God used in unbelievable ways. 00:49.098 --> 01:13.055 [SPEAKER_01]: to shape and really set a trajectory or sometimes I think about it like a trellis on which the vine would grow in my own journey with Christ, my own journey as a preacher and oftentimes there were men that really kind of set the pace for personal godliness, integrity, uprightness and then there were guys that God started using and I didn't know he was doing it at the time. 01:13.615 --> 01:20.058 [SPEAKER_01]: to shape me into a preacher and a leader and a lover of God's Word. 01:20.898 --> 01:27.401 [SPEAKER_01]: And one of those men was Chuck Swindall, and Chuck Swindall at the time, I didn't know anything about it. 01:27.421 --> 01:32.363 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew nothing of the Christian ecosystem, but I had a friend. 01:32.923 --> 01:46.715 [SPEAKER_01]: that told me there were these two guys on the radio that if I really wanted to grow and learn to dial in and that was on 1057 down in Houston. 01:47.095 --> 01:48.837 [SPEAKER_01]: It was Chuck Swindall from 9 to 930 and 01:58.585 --> 02:00.207 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I started my dad. 02:00.247 --> 02:02.529 [SPEAKER_01]: Get up, I do my little devotional. 02:02.989 --> 02:08.314 [SPEAKER_01]: I would dig in the word and then I'd get my paper journal and my Bible. 02:08.734 --> 02:10.296 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would dial in the radio. 02:11.016 --> 02:13.819 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know some of you are going to need to Google what I'm talking about. 02:13.879 --> 02:16.201 [SPEAKER_01]: But I had to dial in the radio at 105-7. 02:16.221 --> 02:18.143 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not one of the big channels. 02:18.683 --> 02:20.004 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I would sit there. 02:20.965 --> 02:23.507 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would listen to Chuck Swindall who's with us today. 02:24.568 --> 02:27.771 [SPEAKER_01]: Just walk line by line. 02:27.851 --> 02:29.412 [SPEAKER_01]: It was called expositional preaching. 02:29.492 --> 02:50.507 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know that's what it was called I just knew this man was always tethered to the text and God birthed to in me in that season That if I was ever going to teach if I was ever I was going to do it like that and where Evan's Dr. Evans really show me oh the power of illustration the power of story 02:53.529 --> 02:55.929 [SPEAKER_01]: was let the word do the work. 02:56.110 --> 02:57.110 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to do the work. 02:57.150 --> 02:58.330 [SPEAKER_01]: Let the word do the work. 02:58.670 --> 03:06.051 [SPEAKER_01]: Let them leave marveline at the word of God and not at you and man. 03:06.772 --> 03:12.433 [SPEAKER_01]: I got a call that I could have an opportunity to be in the room with Chuck Swedall. 03:12.493 --> 03:14.053 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, say yes. 03:14.673 --> 03:16.053 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what's on the calendar. 03:16.093 --> 03:18.154 [SPEAKER_01]: We can move whatever else is there. 03:18.974 --> 03:19.515 [SPEAKER_01]: say yes. 03:20.316 --> 03:26.884 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm out here in Frisco enough far from where we live sitting down with Chuck's window. 03:26.944 --> 03:29.767 [SPEAKER_01]: One of my heroes, a mentor from afar. 03:30.468 --> 03:35.394 [SPEAKER_01]: There's not a Matt Chandler in this current form if the Lord doesn't send to me. 03:36.235 --> 03:41.378 [SPEAKER_01]: Chuck Swindall days after I become a Christian. 03:41.418 --> 03:43.500 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're so excited to be sitting. 03:43.540 --> 03:50.764 [SPEAKER_01]: I get to kind of introduce all the more one of my heroes, one of the shaping forces of my life to my beautiful bride here. 03:50.905 --> 03:53.486 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we couldn't be more thrilled to be here with you today, Chuck. 03:53.506 --> 03:54.927 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much, 03:56.528 --> 03:57.729 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm without words. 03:57.969 --> 04:01.132 [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea you even knew I was around. 04:01.552 --> 04:01.933 [SPEAKER_03]: Really? 04:01.993 --> 04:02.693 [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea. 04:02.753 --> 04:03.554 [SPEAKER_03]: I did not know. 04:03.614 --> 04:05.516 [SPEAKER_03]: I did not know till today. 04:05.596 --> 04:06.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 04:06.497 --> 04:08.859 [SPEAKER_03]: Which says something about how we live our lives. 04:09.019 --> 04:09.459 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 04:09.719 --> 04:10.380 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know. 04:10.820 --> 04:11.041 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 04:11.181 --> 04:11.741 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. 04:11.901 --> 04:13.082 [SPEAKER_03]: Whose lives were touching? 04:13.543 --> 04:13.783 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 04:14.143 --> 04:16.405 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm grateful that something I've done has helped you. 04:16.665 --> 04:17.646 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's great. 04:17.706 --> 04:18.407 [SPEAKER_01]: Matt, thank you. 04:18.727 --> 04:19.107 [SPEAKER_01]: Easily. 04:20.028 --> 04:38.400 [SPEAKER_01]: one of the best preachers of my day and again from your books to the radio to watching you at promise keepers in a stadium full of I had no idea what a godly man was supposed to look like that's not my background that's not the home I grew up in and to get from you 04:40.462 --> 04:43.104 [SPEAKER_01]: the word of God consistently. 04:43.644 --> 04:53.632 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, is just one of the more profound shaping forces of my, I can't tell my story of falling in love with Jesus without mentioning Chuck's window. 04:53.732 --> 04:53.972 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 04:54.713 --> 04:56.414 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, man, I'm geeking out. 04:56.454 --> 04:57.755 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fanboying a little bit. 04:58.035 --> 04:58.436 [SPEAKER_01]: today. 04:58.756 --> 04:59.898 [SPEAKER_01]: I was on the way here. 04:59.918 --> 05:03.964 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw you getting, you know, touched up before we came. 05:03.984 --> 05:05.727 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I can't thank you. 05:05.747 --> 05:07.950 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's such such grace for me. 05:08.090 --> 05:08.691 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you. 05:08.931 --> 05:09.572 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's great. 05:09.592 --> 05:09.833 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:10.133 --> 05:10.874 [SPEAKER_03]: It was good. 05:10.914 --> 05:11.795 [SPEAKER_03]: God used me. 05:11.996 --> 05:12.156 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:12.176 --> 05:12.336 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:12.877 --> 05:36.691 [SPEAKER_00]: It was fun to watch, so we recorded something before now, and I just the two of them were speaking and just profound wisdom, but it was neat to sit behind the scenes and hear you say some things that I've heard Matt say, and so just that echo of the deposit that you put in him without even knowing it, the impact that you've had on him and how you view family life, you 05:37.071 --> 05:47.040 [SPEAKER_00]: your marriage, ministry, leading a church, following the voice in the movement of God is all very much evidence in his life. 05:47.080 --> 05:49.842 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was really cool to see that behind the scenes. 05:50.042 --> 05:53.205 [SPEAKER_01]: That grid of God's first. 05:53.425 --> 05:53.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 05:53.985 --> 05:56.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Family second, churches third. 05:56.348 --> 05:56.588 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 05:57.008 --> 05:59.550 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I heard you say, that is a very young man, 06:01.752 --> 06:03.734 [SPEAKER_01]: and it's set the grid in my soul and head. 06:04.155 --> 06:05.576 [SPEAKER_01]: I will live this way. 06:06.317 --> 06:15.746 [SPEAKER_01]: I will love the Lord, my guy with all my heart, mine, soul and strength, and then I'm going to love this woman with my whole heart, mine, soul, body. 06:15.766 --> 06:23.154 [SPEAKER_01]: Get through you and then I'm going to pour into these kids with all the creativity, playfulness, zeal and intensity that God's put in me. 06:23.794 --> 06:25.877 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm gonna serve the people of God. 06:26.357 --> 06:39.731 [SPEAKER_01]: And so like who was saying that to young guys back then you were You were and so again, I I was such a debt to the king of glory and how he's chosen to Use you in my life. 06:39.951 --> 06:40.432 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you 06:40.912 --> 06:41.152 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 06:42.052 --> 06:45.074 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what else to say, but you're saying that right now. 06:45.814 --> 06:47.915 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a little overwhelmed with hell all that. 06:48.275 --> 06:48.475 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 06:48.495 --> 06:49.055 [SPEAKER_03]: It's beautiful. 06:49.315 --> 06:51.916 [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't raised with those words. 06:52.316 --> 06:52.856 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 06:52.956 --> 06:53.617 [SPEAKER_03]: My parents. 06:53.757 --> 06:54.337 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 06:54.917 --> 06:56.898 [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I was told I was a mistake. 06:57.178 --> 06:58.398 [SPEAKER_03]: I was an accident. 06:59.259 --> 07:04.420 [SPEAKER_03]: And I really, I don't mean this against my mother and dad. 07:05.121 --> 07:08.082 [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't plan on my conception, obviously. 07:08.902 --> 07:21.841 [SPEAKER_03]: We support my mother met by that, we see told me, and she told me that not often, but not for me to remember it to me, and I would think, what does that mean? 07:24.913 --> 07:41.666 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, why am I here if I'm an accident or mistake, and my brother, of course, had been with them for three, three years older and brilliant, he's gone now with the Lord. 07:41.746 --> 07:51.253 [SPEAKER_03]: And my sister was one year behind him, so my mother had her hand full with two kids and diapers and then a couple years later. 07:52.334 --> 07:59.139 [SPEAKER_03]: She finds out she's pregnant again, and I'm sure they had their pillow talks together about Earl. 07:59.499 --> 08:07.805 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, yeah, fact my maternal grandmother my paternal my dad's mother, whom I never met. 08:08.545 --> 08:17.692 [SPEAKER_03]: She was gone before I really Came along and she saw my mother waddling along with me in her in her belly and 08:18.892 --> 08:21.354 [SPEAKER_03]: little boy and little girl along with her. 08:21.974 --> 08:25.377 [SPEAKER_03]: And my mother pulled her son over and said, girl, come here. 08:26.537 --> 08:30.120 [SPEAKER_03]: My grandmother stood about four feet, 10, I think. 08:30.140 --> 08:37.926 [SPEAKER_03]: What they told me, and she said, Earl, the Bible says, remained to be fruitful to multiply and replenish the earth. 08:38.086 --> 08:41.848 [SPEAKER_03]: But Earl, he never meant for one woman to do it all. 08:43.953 --> 08:49.378 [SPEAKER_03]: Leave her alone, so I guess he did because that was the last last one, but I wasn't abused 08:55.245 --> 08:56.226 [SPEAKER_03]: But I was neglected. 08:56.546 --> 08:56.987 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 08:57.708 --> 08:59.169 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was just overlooked. 08:59.269 --> 09:00.611 [SPEAKER_03]: My opinion meant nothing. 09:01.972 --> 09:09.840 [SPEAKER_03]: And when I reached out of high school with the time I finished high school, my dad made it clear. 09:09.900 --> 09:12.703 [SPEAKER_03]: My brother was at Rice and my sister was at Baylor. 09:13.343 --> 09:14.665 [SPEAKER_03]: You are Baylor college. 09:14.805 --> 09:15.185 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. 09:15.986 --> 09:17.568 [SPEAKER_03]: I was ready to go to the University of Houston. 09:17.588 --> 09:22.655 [SPEAKER_03]: I was all had my sight settled in the theater and doing something in drama or whatever. 09:22.675 --> 09:26.440 [SPEAKER_03]: Because of reasons we couldn't get into if you want to. 09:27.521 --> 09:30.806 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, in my dad's, you're not college material. 09:32.428 --> 09:33.429 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't make it there. 09:34.130 --> 09:43.598 [SPEAKER_03]: Even though I've been a nice alongside in high school, I didn't make my brother's grades, but in our whole, there was a lot of comparing the shot deaf on it. 09:44.979 --> 09:47.661 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm against that as hard as anything. 09:47.761 --> 09:49.142 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't compare it over. 09:49.262 --> 09:49.642 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 09:49.923 --> 09:55.487 [SPEAKER_03]: They're born individually and should be raised as individual people. 09:55.827 --> 09:56.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 09:56.408 --> 10:01.452 [SPEAKER_03]: Each is bent with his own, is outright in my book on you and your child. 10:02.132 --> 10:04.813 [SPEAKER_03]: And most parents don't know that. 10:05.494 --> 10:09.536 [SPEAKER_03]: So report card time comes and you dread it with your whole heart. 10:09.556 --> 10:12.938 [SPEAKER_01]: Because the one who loves it isn't what it makes always. 10:12.958 --> 10:14.138 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was Lauren. 10:14.258 --> 10:22.363 [SPEAKER_01]: I was more of the, you know, if I got Season Bees, I'd say to my parents, I'm proud of a variety. 10:22.383 --> 10:23.863 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 10:23.883 --> 10:24.844 [SPEAKER_03]: You want variety? 10:26.345 --> 10:29.726 [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't think it was funny, but anyway, 10:32.448 --> 10:34.350 [SPEAKER_03]: There was overt favoritism. 10:34.610 --> 10:44.540 [SPEAKER_03]: My brother was my mother's favorite child and Lucy, uh, uh, or bull is his name and Lucy was my dad's favorite. 10:44.920 --> 10:46.041 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 10:46.061 --> 10:50.626 [SPEAKER_03]: So, somehow in God's grace, my grandfather or my mother's side. 10:52.155 --> 10:54.778 [SPEAKER_03]: The, I became so fresh. 10:54.898 --> 10:57.761 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I loved him. 10:58.462 --> 10:59.042 [SPEAKER_01]: What a gift. 10:59.122 --> 10:59.623 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 10:59.683 --> 11:00.804 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't describe. 11:01.425 --> 11:01.665 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 11:01.805 --> 11:02.106 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:02.226 --> 11:02.666 [SPEAKER_01]: What a gift. 11:02.706 --> 11:04.228 [SPEAKER_01]: God sends the right man at the right time. 11:04.248 --> 11:05.229 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he does. 11:05.669 --> 11:09.053 [SPEAKER_03]: And I, that's what made our vacation times. 11:09.093 --> 11:11.836 [SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about this early before we started this. 11:11.956 --> 11:12.156 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 11:12.757 --> 11:14.118 [SPEAKER_03]: We would have our vacation settle. 11:16.032 --> 11:22.798 [SPEAKER_03]: May cottage down that my granddaddy owned down near a Policious Texas Oh, last year. 11:22.878 --> 11:24.499 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, reds us pass. 11:24.599 --> 11:25.760 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Port-Livaca. 11:25.880 --> 11:27.241 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, rock port. 11:27.261 --> 11:44.395 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I couldn't wait to mainly to be near my granddad Because he was there and Some mornings he would even take me alone on the boat and we would fish Together and it just didn't get better than yeah 11:45.215 --> 11:50.598 [SPEAKER_01]: Lauren was asking those questions because Lauren is an Abbott Fisher woman or something. 11:50.698 --> 11:53.640 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're, yeah, she has she just corrected me. 11:54.060 --> 11:55.181 [SPEAKER_01]: It's called an Angler Bay. 11:55.201 --> 11:55.801 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay. 11:55.921 --> 11:56.582 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry. 11:57.102 --> 11:59.744 [SPEAKER_03]: You, you can meet my friend, Brian Kelly. 11:59.944 --> 12:00.324 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 12:00.424 --> 12:01.785 [SPEAKER_03]: She's dear friend. 12:02.645 --> 12:06.568 [SPEAKER_03]: He's our designated driver, you know, because you know, I drive any more. 12:06.588 --> 12:10.812 [SPEAKER_00]: And he, often shops for us, cooks for us. 12:11.052 --> 12:11.672 [SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful. 12:11.832 --> 12:13.153 [SPEAKER_03]: There's everything, but feeds us. 12:13.354 --> 12:15.075 [SPEAKER_03]: And I guess I would do that someday. 12:16.316 --> 12:18.138 [SPEAKER_03]: But Brad is one of the kind. 12:18.518 --> 12:24.322 [SPEAKER_03]: And he is an avid, bass fisher. 12:24.342 --> 12:24.403 [SPEAKER_00]: OK. 12:24.483 --> 12:25.583 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a part of a club. 12:25.824 --> 12:27.465 [SPEAKER_00]: OK, that's a good thing. 12:27.605 --> 12:28.586 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no. 12:28.646 --> 12:29.527 [SPEAKER_00]: That is good. 12:29.567 --> 12:30.648 [SPEAKER_03]: The fish he catches. 12:31.717 --> 12:32.698 [SPEAKER_03]: Another kind of series. 12:32.718 --> 12:35.639 [SPEAKER_03]: Pull the wall, yes, yes. 12:35.719 --> 12:43.044 [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't catch those that big, but only once did we get into a school of golf speckle trout. 12:43.384 --> 12:44.144 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 12:44.164 --> 12:45.125 [SPEAKER_03]: We caught 64. 12:46.045 --> 12:47.706 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's amazing. 12:47.726 --> 12:48.447 [SPEAKER_01]: There was no limit. 12:48.467 --> 12:49.027 [SPEAKER_01]: No limits. 12:49.067 --> 12:49.267 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 12:49.367 --> 12:50.888 [SPEAKER_03]: We just threw them in the bottom of the boat. 12:50.908 --> 12:52.529 [SPEAKER_03]: My dad said, don't try to string them. 12:52.909 --> 12:53.490 [SPEAKER_03]: Just throw them in. 12:53.510 --> 12:54.570 [SPEAKER_03]: Get your life back here. 12:54.750 --> 12:56.031 [SPEAKER_03]: Get your life back here. 12:56.231 --> 12:57.032 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean. 12:57.953 --> 13:15.313 [SPEAKER_00]: and stop just as quick as it's right yeah school was moving on well you know they call it fishing not catching right you know that's what's been minding it's like catching I've finished Lauren catches that's been our experience well you must know that's an interesting thing that you have that is your 13:35.253 --> 13:44.482 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I've caught most of the the fun things have been off the coast of Louisiana. 13:44.842 --> 13:45.483 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. 13:45.503 --> 13:48.466 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a big yellow fin tuna. 13:48.746 --> 13:50.768 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but just for the just for. 13:51.232 --> 13:51.412 [SPEAKER_00]: 200. 13:51.432 --> 13:53.253 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no. 13:53.293 --> 13:53.774 [SPEAKER_00]: 30. 13:53.854 --> 13:55.035 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't pass that. 13:55.195 --> 13:55.555 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 13:55.835 --> 13:57.156 [SPEAKER_01]: It took her five hours. 13:57.256 --> 13:58.637 [SPEAKER_00]: And in train. 13:58.697 --> 14:01.299 [SPEAKER_00]: I was not the only one that worked on it, but I did work on it the long. 14:01.339 --> 14:03.200 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not fluffy. 14:03.220 --> 14:03.680 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 14:03.700 --> 14:03.761 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 14:03.861 --> 14:04.941 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 14:05.141 --> 14:06.022 [SPEAKER_00]: Heavy line. 14:06.062 --> 14:07.303 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a steel leader. 14:07.363 --> 14:08.264 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that what you did? 14:08.384 --> 14:09.324 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 14:09.344 --> 14:15.188 [SPEAKER_00]: So we went with a guide and they just put us on some really good fish. 14:16.049 --> 14:17.330 [SPEAKER_00]: And I worked on it. 14:17.350 --> 14:18.070 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you like that? 14:18.090 --> 14:18.451 [SPEAKER_03]: 200 pound. 14:19.591 --> 14:22.352 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I helped the first two and a half hours. 14:22.732 --> 14:22.912 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 14:23.012 --> 14:29.874 [SPEAKER_00]: And then everybody else put in about an hour's worth of time and then our guide, she brought it in with the help. 14:30.094 --> 14:31.115 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was huge. 14:31.735 --> 14:35.016 [SPEAKER_00]: And the hook, the barbed had come off the hook. 14:35.176 --> 14:39.637 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a barbed list of the kept that fish on for five hours. 14:39.737 --> 14:41.618 [SPEAKER_01]: And no shark came and snatch it from me. 14:41.638 --> 14:42.398 [SPEAKER_01]: That was miracle. 14:42.658 --> 14:44.679 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was a catch of a lifetime. 14:44.719 --> 14:48.560 [SPEAKER_01]: Like in the cut of this, I want to put the picture that fish, so people can see. 14:49.160 --> 14:50.221 [SPEAKER_01]: It's as big as she is. 14:50.401 --> 14:51.181 [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. 14:51.401 --> 14:52.021 [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy it. 14:52.141 --> 14:58.404 [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy getting out there on the on the water and and just, you know, see in what comes our way. 14:58.504 --> 15:00.585 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we face off the North Shore. 15:00.605 --> 15:01.246 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. 15:01.546 --> 15:02.046 [SPEAKER_03]: Kawaii. 15:02.146 --> 15:02.766 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 15:03.307 --> 15:05.348 [SPEAKER_03]: And my son Kurt. 15:06.168 --> 15:12.913 [SPEAKER_03]: uh one of my sons uh caught a tuna that was about a hundred and fifty. 15:13.013 --> 15:14.574 [SPEAKER_03]: That's still a big hole. 15:14.614 --> 15:18.717 [SPEAKER_03]: Got it right up to the boat and then uh we lost it right now. 15:18.757 --> 15:26.003 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the heart of the fight for that long and then he also later caught a known that trip by the another. 15:26.563 --> 15:33.028 [SPEAKER_03]: He caught a selfish, a swordfish and it would the fin that goes up real well. 15:33.048 --> 15:33.288 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 15:33.568 --> 15:35.148 [SPEAKER_03]: he landed in 125 pounds. 15:35.628 --> 15:36.329 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow. 15:36.629 --> 15:37.489 [SPEAKER_00]: That's incredible. 15:37.649 --> 15:38.189 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 15:38.429 --> 15:41.390 [SPEAKER_01]: Those were our catches that we remember. 15:41.410 --> 15:41.490 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:41.530 --> 15:41.970 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:42.230 --> 15:42.670 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:42.990 --> 15:44.811 [SPEAKER_01]: Lawrence got a gift out there. 15:44.891 --> 15:46.071 [SPEAKER_01]: I do not share that gift. 15:46.131 --> 15:47.771 [SPEAKER_01]: I like to chase elk in the mountain. 15:47.811 --> 15:50.332 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll provide the elk. 15:50.412 --> 15:51.092 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:51.172 --> 15:51.332 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:51.572 --> 15:51.792 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:51.892 --> 15:53.433 [SPEAKER_01]: And Lauren will provide the fish. 15:53.493 --> 15:53.653 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:53.673 --> 15:54.133 [SPEAKER_01]: The deep. 15:54.153 --> 15:55.973 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to fishing for the day. 15:55.993 --> 15:56.093 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:56.113 --> 15:57.214 [SPEAKER_01]: The fishing for the kingdom. 15:57.354 --> 15:57.834 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:57.874 --> 15:58.614 [SPEAKER_01]: Fisher's of men. 15:58.754 --> 15:59.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:59.074 --> 15:59.454 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. 15:59.514 --> 16:00.454 [SPEAKER_00]: I do have a question that 16:04.856 --> 16:11.262 [SPEAKER_00]: A phrase spoken over your life that shaped you, which was, you know, you're an accident or a mistake. 16:11.742 --> 16:20.610 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I would love to hear more about maybe how the enemy would have used it against you and how the Lord has used it to shape you into the manual. 16:20.630 --> 16:22.372 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a magnificent question. 16:24.913 --> 16:27.894 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to be brief here because I could feel that's okay. 16:27.914 --> 16:28.575 [SPEAKER_03]: That's okay. 16:28.875 --> 16:29.535 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to. 16:29.555 --> 16:31.095 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 16:31.216 --> 16:49.702 [SPEAKER_03]: I do want to tell you it impacted me and at first because I didn't know what it meant and was about to learn I would I would offer my opinion and it would be ignored or I would reach out and they would no one would reach back. 16:51.042 --> 16:51.902 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, little things. 16:51.962 --> 16:59.704 [SPEAKER_03]: My mother would bring my brother, warm milk before he went to sleep at night because he enjoyed that never offered me one. 17:00.964 --> 17:06.545 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, my sister had special gifts from my dad when she went to college. 17:06.585 --> 17:10.226 [SPEAKER_03]: They bought a car for her and it was a pre-owned car. 17:10.246 --> 17:11.066 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good car. 17:11.126 --> 17:17.968 [SPEAKER_03]: And my brother would rise, they gave him the family car, which was a Ford and nice, nice little car. 17:19.574 --> 17:31.046 [SPEAKER_03]: But when I was getting ready to go to school, my dad told me that I wasn't called his material and that cut deep, that was the first time he really just put it in words. 17:31.967 --> 17:35.330 [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, you should just be in a apprentice at our machine shop. 17:36.431 --> 17:42.618 [SPEAKER_03]: So I was, before and a half years, the back in elementary school, I began to stutter. 17:43.965 --> 17:49.490 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was related to that because I felt so unworthy, so 17:52.968 --> 17:53.469 [SPEAKER_03]: awkward. 17:53.489 --> 17:55.490 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good student. 17:55.590 --> 17:57.932 [SPEAKER_03]: I just couldn't get my words out. 17:58.552 --> 18:01.395 [SPEAKER_03]: I would stutter like that. 18:01.435 --> 18:16.907 [SPEAKER_03]: And the kids would go, ststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststststst 18:23.293 --> 18:31.037 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't hate my family or my mother or dad and I certainly didn't disrespect them. 18:32.538 --> 18:36.500 [SPEAKER_03]: I just realized they don't know me. 18:36.880 --> 18:37.180 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:38.000 --> 18:38.401 [SPEAKER_00]: It's right. 18:38.721 --> 18:40.041 [SPEAKER_03]: I grew up unknown. 18:41.492 --> 18:44.174 [SPEAKER_03]: Something happens to you when you're unknown at home. 18:45.515 --> 18:59.926 [SPEAKER_03]: They never went to a ball game that I was up as musical in my background that played in the band the orchestra made several nice positions in each and they never came to the concert. 18:59.946 --> 19:00.706 [SPEAKER_00]: What did you play? 19:00.827 --> 19:01.427 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious. 19:01.947 --> 19:03.188 [SPEAKER_00]: What instrument did you play? 19:03.228 --> 19:03.949 [SPEAKER_03]: I played clarinet. 19:03.989 --> 19:04.669 [SPEAKER_03]: I played clarinet. 19:04.709 --> 19:06.951 [SPEAKER_03]: I taught myself saxophone and then 19:11.094 --> 19:26.564 [SPEAKER_03]: uh uh my uncle had a clarinet when he went off to be my grandmother wrote my mother and said uh uh Rosela's of this my middle name uh and uh she said Rosela's going to college he didn't take his clarinet. 19:27.224 --> 19:29.326 [SPEAKER_03]: do you have anyone of your kids that may want to play? 19:29.366 --> 19:32.770 [SPEAKER_03]: And so my mother said to me, you want to play your clarinet? 19:33.211 --> 19:34.532 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know what a clarinet was. 19:34.612 --> 19:39.878 [SPEAKER_03]: And so they sent it to us, and I got a book on how to play a clarinet and taught myself. 19:39.978 --> 19:45.865 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I got into junior high school, and by then I was playing and, and uh, 19:47.395 --> 20:04.964 [SPEAKER_03]: I became pretty good and made the orchestra and then I thought, well, I'd like to learn another is there, I found out there were other instruments playing near me and so I took private lessons on the oboe from Mr. Bolton. 20:04.984 --> 20:08.986 [SPEAKER_03]: He was the first chair in the Houston Symphony 20:12.328 --> 20:37.905 [SPEAKER_03]: The first chair in the symphony is called a principal, principal trumpet, principal baritone, principal cellist, principal clarinet, and he taught me to learn the omoe and it's a great instrument, it has the double read and taught me how to make my own reads and it's difficult, it's difficult, it can be, it can be, it can 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21:25.331 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 21:25.491 --> 21:25.832 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 21:26.092 --> 21:26.532 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 21:26.592 --> 21:26.972 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 21:26.992 --> 21:27.413 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 21:27.473 --> 21:27.933 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right 21:28.553 --> 21:35.918 [SPEAKER_03]: Sax was easy to play that in the dance band, and then I got played flute and pick a low-end. 21:37.519 --> 21:44.182 [SPEAKER_03]: Got the Marine Corps, and I'm in the infantry, everybody isn't in the Marine Corps, and I heard the music. 21:44.723 --> 21:50.926 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm all broken now, I'm all places, and for 16 months, and on the 21:57.668 --> 21:58.729 [SPEAKER_03]: It sounded like a band. 21:58.769 --> 22:01.151 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, yeah, that's a third division band. 22:01.171 --> 22:11.741 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, it's an old, all in this hall, and he said, yes, right there in headquarters company, and I thought I hadn't played an instrument in five and a half years. 22:12.601 --> 22:15.624 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll make this quick, I promise. 22:16.305 --> 22:17.866 [SPEAKER_03]: I went to the band, 22:20.070 --> 22:21.654 [SPEAKER_03]: Conductor, the leader. 22:22.095 --> 22:27.608 [SPEAKER_03]: Captain Birch and I said, Sir, I'd like to audition for the band, he said. 22:29.587 --> 22:34.589 [SPEAKER_03]: But you think you are, of course normally you have an M.O.S. 22:34.929 --> 22:50.856 [SPEAKER_03]: that means you're you're you're you come into the core being a man's man is in your record and I didn't have that in my record, but she this was my and he said what's your M.O.S. 22:50.876 --> 22:51.897 [SPEAKER_03]: Lattole and he said 22:53.797 --> 22:54.517 [SPEAKER_03]: What are you playing? 22:54.557 --> 22:57.559 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I just mentioned the clarinet. 22:57.599 --> 22:58.580 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, is that it? 22:58.640 --> 23:02.843 [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, no, sir, I'll play saxophone. 23:02.923 --> 23:05.004 [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, that it? 23:05.024 --> 23:07.565 [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, no, sir, I'll play Obo. 23:07.966 --> 23:08.746 [SPEAKER_03]: You playing Omo? 23:08.806 --> 23:13.089 [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, you know, I end flute in the piccolo and he goes, 23:13.656 --> 23:15.279 [SPEAKER_03]: You play all those instruments on it. 23:15.700 --> 23:16.422 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he said. 23:17.123 --> 23:22.855 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, get a clarinet for this young man and they brought one over and put another mouthpiece on and 23:24.192 --> 23:33.939 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you play the thing from memory and I played a special part of it, a Sequoia overture that we used to play in high school. 23:33.959 --> 23:49.509 [SPEAKER_03]: We would state with that overture and it has a part that's strictly for the clarinet with no other instrument playing and everything's quiet, but the clarinet, like at the beginning 23:50.890 --> 23:51.951 [SPEAKER_03]: Rhapsody and blue. 23:52.011 --> 24:16.542 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes 24:17.362 --> 24:32.242 [SPEAKER_03]: a couple of pieces in front of me, a march and a piece of concert music and a sight-red it and he's really watching me, you know, and he said, 24:34.642 --> 24:35.882 [SPEAKER_03]: When can you transfer? 24:35.902 --> 24:38.984 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, sir, you're the captain. 24:40.184 --> 24:40.544 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 24:40.584 --> 24:41.705 [SPEAKER_03]: He can do anything. 24:41.865 --> 24:42.805 [SPEAKER_03]: You can make coming. 24:42.845 --> 24:43.445 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, yes. 24:43.625 --> 24:44.506 [SPEAKER_03]: How about today? 24:44.786 --> 24:45.286 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 24:46.206 --> 24:47.607 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I would love that. 24:48.227 --> 24:51.228 [SPEAKER_03]: And he had never heard anybody say they would love to be in the man. 24:51.688 --> 24:53.089 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not Marine Corps talk. 24:53.609 --> 24:55.130 [SPEAKER_03]: But that's one of our favorite words. 24:55.730 --> 24:56.770 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I would love that. 24:56.850 --> 24:58.011 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, what would you play? 24:58.071 --> 24:58.411 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, 24:59.191 --> 25:00.011 [SPEAKER_03]: You're the captain. 25:00.352 --> 25:01.452 [SPEAKER_03]: You tell me what to play. 25:02.153 --> 25:03.593 [SPEAKER_03]: So we need to know the clarinetist. 25:03.673 --> 25:04.454 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, fine. 25:05.414 --> 25:21.603 [SPEAKER_03]: So I started on clarinet and he soon made me the principal clarinetist and that's one of the greatest things ever happened because I was on liberty more because when you play also got the dance band I would play for the officer's dances and 25:22.283 --> 25:24.985 [SPEAKER_03]: When you play that into the night, you get two days off. 25:25.485 --> 25:26.646 [SPEAKER_03]: I learned a lot. 25:26.766 --> 25:30.148 [SPEAKER_03]: So I get to be with Bob Newcourt, who is my mentor. 25:30.188 --> 25:30.408 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 25:30.928 --> 25:31.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 25:31.569 --> 25:34.070 [SPEAKER_03]: I have a told you I was going about that last interview. 25:34.710 --> 25:36.992 [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought this could be great. 25:37.632 --> 25:42.075 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was made by a 16 months over there. 25:42.855 --> 25:44.956 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't tell you how great it was. 25:45.196 --> 25:45.597 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 25:45.757 --> 25:47.298 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks a lot for music. 25:47.638 --> 25:48.278 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 25:48.398 --> 25:50.299 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how we're following it with great interest. 25:50.619 --> 25:51.500 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that. 25:52.118 --> 25:56.960 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love for you to, I saw you do an interview one to set it up. 25:57.780 --> 26:03.642 [SPEAKER_01]: You've been married to Cynthia for 71 years, been together, 73 am I right on those two numbers? 26:04.883 --> 26:09.584 [SPEAKER_03]: And we've had 73 years ago, okay, I'm 92 next month, look at that. 26:10.064 --> 26:11.545 [SPEAKER_01]: And sharp as a tap. 26:11.585 --> 26:12.065 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 26:13.185 --> 26:14.126 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw an interview. 26:14.146 --> 26:19.948 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little bit, with Greg Laurie, and you talked about that moment, we talked about it. 26:20.568 --> 26:21.669 [SPEAKER_01]: in the right now, shoot too. 26:21.729 --> 26:23.730 [SPEAKER_01]: But, um, we're not better. 26:24.150 --> 26:25.371 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you talked about the moment. 26:25.571 --> 26:27.592 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we'd probably love to hear how you matter. 26:27.752 --> 26:34.016 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to get us to that moment of the big apology tin you see. 26:34.356 --> 26:44.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and like how to navigate the hardship and difficulty of faithfully loving our brides, you know, while in ministry, while serving the Lord, 26:44.923 --> 27:05.424 [SPEAKER_03]: yeah she confronted me and said we're not partners because I was I like to throw that word around because it made me look good that was my first 10 years of marriage I was a terrible husband and I'm not I did I would brutal but I was not thoughtful and it was all about me and I was on my way to whatever and 27:08.006 --> 27:15.770 [SPEAKER_03]: stupid way to live, and she was too kind to tell me that, but she said don't tell people where partners were not. 27:17.852 --> 27:23.215 [SPEAKER_03]: And we worked on, I worked on that for years, and that we are. 27:24.596 --> 27:29.819 [SPEAKER_03]: And now that she has dementia, I get to be worth her every day, but 27:38.248 --> 27:57.659 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes a little mysterious, uh-huh, and uh-huh, um-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh 28:00.490 --> 28:02.331 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, it's a terrible disease. 28:02.671 --> 28:03.311 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 28:03.391 --> 28:04.812 [SPEAKER_03]: Takes it never gives back. 28:05.172 --> 28:05.372 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 28:05.672 --> 28:07.152 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, no, Colma. 28:07.873 --> 28:08.033 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 28:08.313 --> 28:10.914 [SPEAKER_03]: Ever been to the side, it takes it never gives back. 28:11.054 --> 28:16.476 [SPEAKER_03]: So, my left eye is blinded, my right eye is on its way, it's foggy. 28:16.876 --> 28:17.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:17.736 --> 28:18.497 [SPEAKER_03]: Still accident. 28:19.237 --> 28:19.417 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 28:19.963 --> 28:21.004 [SPEAKER_03]: God knew it before. 28:21.964 --> 28:22.925 [SPEAKER_03]: We were ever bored. 28:23.966 --> 28:27.288 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a woman I married, would one day have dementia. 28:29.009 --> 28:33.332 [SPEAKER_03]: And he knew that would be a vital part of our marriage. 28:35.534 --> 28:38.296 [SPEAKER_03]: I may love her more now than I've ever loved her in my life. 28:38.676 --> 28:39.296 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that. 28:40.097 --> 28:41.198 [SPEAKER_03]: I tell her every day. 28:43.679 --> 28:44.840 [SPEAKER_03]: I tell her every day. 28:45.601 --> 28:46.862 [SPEAKER_03]: She sleeps a lot now. 28:48.749 --> 28:57.783 [SPEAKER_03]: Some time when I get a chance and she's getting ready to go to bed, I'll sit on the side of the bed with her and put my arm around her and she leans over on my shoulder or I'll just love that. 29:00.247 --> 29:01.689 [SPEAKER_03]: I tell her what she reads to me. 29:02.370 --> 29:02.570 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 29:06.093 --> 29:08.796 [SPEAKER_03]: You two stay close. 29:09.136 --> 29:09.777 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes sir. 29:10.318 --> 29:10.818 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes sir. 29:11.539 --> 29:12.260 [SPEAKER_03]: Stay close. 29:12.920 --> 29:13.161 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 29:14.202 --> 29:14.943 [SPEAKER_03]: You never know. 29:15.303 --> 29:18.386 [SPEAKER_03]: I could give you stories of people that have been an accident. 29:18.687 --> 29:18.967 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:19.187 --> 29:22.851 [SPEAKER_03]: The wife has changed from a terrible accident. 29:22.931 --> 29:23.191 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 29:24.943 --> 29:29.384 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we don't share for the rest of our life and this man loved her to the end. 29:29.664 --> 29:30.445 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 29:31.145 --> 29:31.465 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 29:32.185 --> 29:34.286 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the promise we made on a rainy day. 29:34.346 --> 29:35.666 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 29:35.766 --> 29:37.187 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a big one on vows. 29:37.267 --> 29:37.487 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 29:37.507 --> 29:41.088 [SPEAKER_03]: I have a, I don't have much, I don't have much. 29:42.188 --> 29:45.771 [SPEAKER_03]: much patients with people that make vows and don't meet much with them. 29:45.811 --> 29:45.991 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 29:46.091 --> 29:46.371 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 29:46.451 --> 29:47.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I won't let. 29:47.272 --> 29:50.554 [SPEAKER_01]: I won't do somebody's wedding if they want to write their own house. 29:50.574 --> 29:51.775 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, that's a good thing. 29:51.975 --> 29:53.176 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, no, no. 29:53.256 --> 29:53.736 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not. 29:53.856 --> 29:58.900 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm if you want to do a little speech to each other about how much you love each other that's cute at it. 29:59.480 --> 30:00.921 [SPEAKER_01]: But we're doing these vows. 30:02.022 --> 30:05.165 [SPEAKER_01]: like better or worse, richer poor. 30:05.225 --> 30:05.805 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 30:05.865 --> 30:06.846 [SPEAKER_01]: Sickness, hell. 30:06.886 --> 30:07.186 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 30:07.627 --> 30:10.249 [SPEAKER_01]: We will say that to God and to this community. 30:10.309 --> 30:11.210 [SPEAKER_03]: Use my example. 30:11.270 --> 30:11.650 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 30:11.750 --> 30:15.674 [SPEAKER_03]: On the richer on the richer on those sickness or health. 30:15.774 --> 30:18.276 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I thought we'd be healthy to rest of our lives. 30:18.296 --> 30:18.556 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 30:18.596 --> 30:20.197 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought we'd both be dead by now. 30:20.257 --> 30:20.598 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me. 30:20.838 --> 30:23.340 [SPEAKER_00]: 92 and the 809, or you can think of it. 30:23.640 --> 30:23.940 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 30:24.141 --> 30:24.741 [SPEAKER_03]: But, um. 30:26.022 --> 30:27.124 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't plan my life. 30:27.384 --> 30:28.085 [SPEAKER_03]: God bless it. 30:28.166 --> 30:28.766 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 30:28.787 --> 30:32.072 [SPEAKER_03]: That's more devises his way, but the Lord directs his steps. 30:32.813 --> 30:35.377 [SPEAKER_03]: Light's one wise for the need of the three of us. 30:35.657 --> 30:36.018 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 30:36.278 --> 30:39.823 [SPEAKER_03]: And he planned that I would have a long life. 30:41.065 --> 30:43.147 [SPEAKER_03]: I've lived longer than any member of my family. 30:43.167 --> 30:49.031 [SPEAKER_03]: They're all gone and sent this with longer than any one of her family. 30:49.071 --> 30:49.911 [SPEAKER_03]: They're all gone. 30:50.011 --> 30:54.554 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you need those vows, like even our story. 30:54.574 --> 30:55.895 [SPEAKER_03]: I think about them regularly. 30:56.035 --> 30:57.036 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do. 30:57.236 --> 30:57.937 [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you you did. 30:57.957 --> 30:58.657 [SPEAKER_01]: You're living them. 30:58.677 --> 30:59.818 [SPEAKER_01]: You're living them out. 30:59.918 --> 31:00.238 [SPEAKER_01]: I do. 31:00.398 --> 31:01.359 [SPEAKER_01]: And the most beautiful way. 31:01.459 --> 31:02.920 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but no, William was sent in. 31:02.940 --> 31:05.002 [SPEAKER_03]: She said, oh, that's beautiful. 31:05.142 --> 31:07.383 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, well, I didn't come up with them. 31:07.423 --> 31:08.384 [SPEAKER_03]: They're not original. 31:08.424 --> 31:09.885 [SPEAKER_03]: She said, oh, I know that. 31:10.425 --> 31:10.585 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 31:11.526 --> 31:16.951 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll show you the reason for that, so I mean, when you get where we are, you know, you're not too careful. 31:16.991 --> 31:17.812 [SPEAKER_03]: You just say it. 31:17.992 --> 31:18.533 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 31:18.593 --> 31:18.773 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 31:18.813 --> 31:19.053 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 31:19.073 --> 31:20.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not the reason. 31:21.055 --> 31:21.555 [SPEAKER_03]: I know that. 31:21.576 --> 31:21.776 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 31:21.796 --> 31:22.396 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that. 31:22.476 --> 31:35.048 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, I just last night told her, I love me she was and her hair smells so great, and I held her face toward mine and kissed her and kissed her and kissed her. 31:37.020 --> 31:38.561 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a beautiful thing to do, guys. 31:38.581 --> 31:39.822 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a beautiful, yes. 31:39.862 --> 31:43.705 [SPEAKER_01]: So endured 70 years. 31:44.926 --> 31:45.787 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 31:45.807 --> 31:46.948 [SPEAKER_01]: We were in the restaurant. 31:46.968 --> 31:47.488 [SPEAKER_01]: 70, we won. 31:47.508 --> 31:51.371 [SPEAKER_03]: Walked up and said, well, anything special tonight. 31:51.451 --> 31:52.172 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, what's? 31:53.553 --> 32:11.545 [SPEAKER_03]: As we were celebrating an anniversary in over which one I think it was our 60 fifth or 68 that's it is our 68 60 a Like the restaurant Yeah, it's called all the way to the home Yeah, this season's 52 right now. 32:11.745 --> 32:18.390 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so they all came around and the manager came over thought I mean, we're still touring the place after several 32:19.207 --> 32:21.988 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, why are they all, he said, we never see this. 32:22.148 --> 32:22.549 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 32:22.669 --> 32:22.989 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 32:23.449 --> 32:23.909 [SPEAKER_02]: We never... 32:23.949 --> 32:24.609 [SPEAKER_00]: It is rare. 32:25.650 --> 32:26.070 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell him. 32:26.630 --> 32:30.392 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, well, we're celebrating our anniversary. 32:30.412 --> 32:34.194 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell him which one I did and he said, can you believe it? 32:34.234 --> 32:35.394 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no. 32:35.854 --> 32:37.615 [SPEAKER_03]: So, they gave us a free dessert. 32:38.736 --> 32:40.776 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they should have come to home, you know, for six years. 32:40.796 --> 32:41.577 [SPEAKER_03]: They should have. 32:41.597 --> 32:43.037 [SPEAKER_03]: They should have. 32:43.057 --> 32:44.078 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't see that much. 32:44.118 --> 32:44.578 [SPEAKER_00]: Get down. 32:44.598 --> 32:44.798 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 32:45.859 --> 32:46.339 [SPEAKER_03]: Why not? 32:47.608 --> 32:50.109 [SPEAKER_03]: We vowed to do it to death separatists. 32:50.369 --> 32:50.609 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:51.369 --> 32:55.470 [SPEAKER_03]: We promise the living God, we will do that. 32:56.491 --> 32:57.851 [SPEAKER_02]: It's no big thing. 32:57.871 --> 33:09.114 [SPEAKER_02]: But so if you do that, it's just so convenient to do something else. 33:10.414 --> 33:11.855 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't marry for convenience. 33:13.785 --> 33:20.271 [SPEAKER_03]: We marry to honor the Lord our God with all our hearts, soul, and mind, and strength. 33:20.471 --> 33:33.843 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that's the thing that's been lost like an understanding that marriage is a picture of God's covenant faithfulness and a partnership for the glory of Christ? 33:34.420 --> 33:41.025 [SPEAKER_03]: Here in Texas, you know, it's kind of mainly if you, you know, easy word love, but you're, you know, to apologize. 33:41.666 --> 33:44.208 [SPEAKER_03]: And you're, you got this, my cheese most. 33:44.228 --> 33:46.510 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's stupid. 33:46.750 --> 33:47.471 [SPEAKER_01]: None sense of that. 33:47.491 --> 33:49.052 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's pride in that is. 33:49.472 --> 33:50.193 [SPEAKER_03]: In rap tech. 33:50.313 --> 33:51.034 [SPEAKER_03]: Technicolor. 33:51.174 --> 33:51.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:51.434 --> 33:51.754 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 33:52.795 --> 33:52.995 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 33:53.356 --> 33:55.738 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to say to guys like that, shut your mouth. 33:55.898 --> 33:56.698 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 33:56.718 --> 33:56.939 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 33:58.700 --> 34:00.441 [SPEAKER_03]: One heart beat away from death. 34:00.742 --> 34:00.942 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 34:02.135 --> 34:06.217 [SPEAKER_03]: You wouldn't, the spark in your heart comes from the living God. 34:06.397 --> 34:06.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 34:06.758 --> 34:11.280 [SPEAKER_03]: And he brings it all through the day, every day and night of your life. 34:11.360 --> 34:14.622 [SPEAKER_03]: The breath in your lungs, telling me you're this big deal. 34:15.802 --> 34:16.663 [SPEAKER_03]: You're nothing. 34:16.823 --> 34:17.183 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 34:17.483 --> 34:20.984 [SPEAKER_01]: It is a, you said it earlier, it is a narcissistic age. 34:21.404 --> 34:29.507 [SPEAKER_01]: Lauren and I've talked a lot about that, even as we've tried to navigate and shepherd well in this moment of history, the self-assumption. 34:29.668 --> 34:31.208 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a big student of Jim Elliott. 34:31.248 --> 34:32.949 [SPEAKER_03]: He was one of the harder missionaries. 34:33.849 --> 34:37.190 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, but what's what's your life like? 34:37.230 --> 34:40.432 [SPEAKER_03]: He's all we're a bunch of nobody's trying to resolve somebody. 34:40.632 --> 34:40.832 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 34:40.872 --> 34:41.332 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 34:42.873 --> 34:44.433 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a great way to put it. 34:44.753 --> 34:45.154 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 34:45.514 --> 34:47.895 [SPEAKER_01]: And and the key to actual happiness. 34:47.915 --> 34:49.255 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what's wild in it. 34:49.455 --> 34:49.775 [SPEAKER_01]: It is. 34:49.956 --> 34:52.957 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the more you make your life about you, right? 34:53.057 --> 34:55.318 [SPEAKER_01]: The more miserable of a human being. 34:55.338 --> 34:55.938 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be. 34:56.398 --> 34:57.839 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a great statement. 34:57.859 --> 34:58.419 [SPEAKER_01]: What was it? 34:58.459 --> 34:58.779 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 34:58.879 --> 35:02.260 [SPEAKER_03]: Why if doesn't want to be married to a humble husband? 35:03.821 --> 35:05.545 [SPEAKER_01]: to a husband that serves her. 35:05.745 --> 35:06.306 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 35:06.867 --> 35:08.511 [SPEAKER_01]: Strong, masculine. 35:08.551 --> 35:09.372 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. 35:09.553 --> 35:10.695 [SPEAKER_01]: And not bent inward. 35:11.652 --> 35:12.052 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 35:12.693 --> 35:13.413 [SPEAKER_01]: Not been anywhere. 35:13.453 --> 35:14.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 35:15.014 --> 35:22.918 [SPEAKER_03]: And lives for her, and lives, even if he has to, to die for her. 35:22.938 --> 35:23.378 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. 35:24.258 --> 35:25.359 [SPEAKER_03]: She needs to serve him. 35:25.379 --> 35:26.159 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not. 35:26.319 --> 35:26.840 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not. 35:28.060 --> 35:28.660 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, press. 35:28.800 --> 35:29.661 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 35:29.801 --> 35:30.181 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 35:30.221 --> 35:31.022 [SPEAKER_03]: Reload. 35:31.842 --> 35:33.863 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what God brought you to find it. 35:33.943 --> 35:34.343 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 35:34.563 --> 35:34.923 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 35:35.464 --> 35:35.704 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 35:36.923 --> 35:38.924 [SPEAKER_03]: And since he wrote it, let's just do it. 35:39.144 --> 35:41.204 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think he'll work. 35:41.624 --> 35:42.924 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he knows better than we do. 35:43.465 --> 35:45.285 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, you're right. 35:45.605 --> 35:47.806 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm going to trust that. 35:48.426 --> 35:51.306 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be God before it does not go well. 35:51.326 --> 35:52.167 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and it stinks. 35:52.307 --> 35:52.867 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't go out. 35:52.887 --> 35:55.067 [SPEAKER_01]: It stinks a little too weak, little too dumb. 35:55.087 --> 35:57.228 [SPEAKER_03]: And you look so foolish, yeah. 35:57.408 --> 35:58.188 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 35:58.708 --> 36:00.208 [SPEAKER_03]: I just see that at times. 36:00.288 --> 36:04.469 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all over the, you know, the world 36:07.330 --> 36:10.112 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you guys, you're missing it, you're missing it. 36:10.352 --> 36:12.834 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't say that on a pride, I just say no. 36:13.074 --> 36:14.235 [SPEAKER_03]: I missed it too, right? 36:14.255 --> 36:15.256 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right. 36:15.776 --> 36:16.056 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 36:16.096 --> 36:20.279 [SPEAKER_03]: But when you're told you're a mistake, you're going to work on proving you're not. 36:20.499 --> 36:24.642 [SPEAKER_03]: And you told your accent, you know, I'm not. 36:24.682 --> 36:32.647 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to show you how I can, I got to where I got lost in that till I realized I'm a nobody trying to exhaust somebody. 36:32.768 --> 36:33.208 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 36:33.468 --> 36:34.269 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll set you free. 36:37.047 --> 36:37.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 36:38.168 --> 36:45.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so you, you've mentioned now, the God, almost kind of taking your eyes for the most part, are you just listening to the Bible? 36:45.871 --> 36:58.618 [SPEAKER_03]: What is kind of, actually, a life like I do and my, my memoir, that I just wrote, I dictated the last five months I preached. 36:59.882 --> 37:00.682 [SPEAKER_03]: I memorized them. 37:00.983 --> 37:02.544 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, not more for words. 37:02.564 --> 37:02.824 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 37:02.924 --> 37:03.604 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 37:04.305 --> 37:19.233 [SPEAKER_03]: When you preach for 60, two years, you pretty well kind of know the process and so I would stand and God would give me the ability to do it and I'd forget that I was doing it without looking. 37:19.553 --> 37:20.094 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm. 37:20.534 --> 37:21.014 [SPEAKER_03]: And words. 37:22.875 --> 37:25.339 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I really had good eye contact if I could have owned it. 37:25.479 --> 37:26.801 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I could have owned it. 37:26.821 --> 37:27.162 [SPEAKER_00]: See? 37:28.203 --> 37:30.787 [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't even see the purse rolls tonight. 37:31.328 --> 37:34.092 [SPEAKER_01]: But, um, it's like he was looking right at me. 37:34.934 --> 37:36.095 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he was, but yes. 37:36.496 --> 37:37.077 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 37:39.062 --> 37:57.394 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, life, it's so full of surprises, you still have things ahead of you, you would never guess and that'll be so great for you, that'll be so good when you accept them in acceptance, wise peace, so accept them. 37:58.394 --> 37:59.035 [SPEAKER_03]: That's good word. 37:59.355 --> 38:00.636 [SPEAKER_03]: That is just accepted. 38:02.857 --> 38:04.658 [SPEAKER_03]: And Moses even said, 38:05.779 --> 38:11.230 [SPEAKER_03]: remember all the way the Lord your God led you these years, 40 years in the wilderness. 38:11.270 --> 38:12.011 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget that. 38:12.933 --> 38:14.817 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget the Red Sea when we crossed it. 38:15.258 --> 38:17.763 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget when the water flowed out of the rock. 38:18.797 --> 38:26.642 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't forgive when Manofel from heaven, and you were saying, oh, starving, I'm starving, and you wanted food, and God gave you a quail. 38:27.002 --> 38:27.303 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 38:27.323 --> 38:28.924 [SPEAKER_03]: Good quail up the Ying Ying. 38:29.724 --> 38:31.025 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, they said it that way. 38:31.065 --> 38:31.926 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they said it that way. 38:31.986 --> 38:33.467 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe in some greater version. 38:33.487 --> 38:35.368 [SPEAKER_03]: It is a quail until they were sick of quail. 38:35.708 --> 38:36.569 [SPEAKER_03]: You want quail? 38:36.589 --> 38:38.070 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hm. 38:38.110 --> 38:41.092 [SPEAKER_03]: They never quails, so I'll make sure you make sure you get plenty. 38:42.153 --> 38:45.175 [SPEAKER_03]: And he fed up in the wilderness to humble them, 38:50.205 --> 38:52.405 [SPEAKER_03]: to let them learn who they were. 38:53.306 --> 38:55.626 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Newt, they who they were, they need to know who they were. 38:57.086 --> 39:01.087 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good discovery to find out who we are. 39:01.427 --> 39:01.827 [SPEAKER_01]: Amen. 39:03.028 --> 39:04.428 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 39:05.108 --> 39:13.890 [SPEAKER_01]: When I think two of the things I picked up from you as a young man were intensity and joy. 39:14.400 --> 39:15.401 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean omitants? 39:15.441 --> 39:16.341 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 39:16.882 --> 39:18.523 [SPEAKER_01]: Intensity and joy. 39:18.663 --> 39:19.344 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 39:19.524 --> 39:20.605 [SPEAKER_03]: I got a little bit of both. 39:21.085 --> 39:21.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And I love it. 39:21.926 --> 39:25.268 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope to have them oozing off of me myself. 39:25.408 --> 39:26.129 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 39:26.149 --> 39:28.010 [SPEAKER_01]: What's making you laugh these days? 39:28.491 --> 39:30.172 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious about Chuck's one. 39:30.212 --> 39:31.453 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll not in the pulpit. 39:31.933 --> 39:34.815 [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of faithfully serving his wife. 39:34.856 --> 39:38.839 [SPEAKER_01]: He's continuing to be wrung out at almost 92 for the Lord. 39:38.879 --> 39:43.142 [SPEAKER_01]: What's making you giggle these days in laugh? 39:44.053 --> 39:54.126 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, some of them are the things I used to do that make me laugh today and I think back all the way, that is the stupidest thing I've ever done. 39:54.146 --> 39:55.988 [SPEAKER_03]: Look at how I've gotten away with that, or... 39:56.853 --> 40:01.578 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it's a laughter that is not a ha-ha-la-ha, but it's a pleasure laughter. 40:01.618 --> 40:01.859 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 40:02.359 --> 40:10.508 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's looking back on ministries where he blessed the ways I could have never imagined. 40:10.588 --> 40:10.948 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 40:11.949 --> 40:15.894 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just think that night Lord you were so good. 40:16.014 --> 40:16.695 [SPEAKER_03]: Too good. 40:16.815 --> 40:16.995 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 40:18.717 --> 40:19.698 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense, doesn't it? 40:19.718 --> 40:20.358 [SPEAKER_03]: It does not. 40:20.858 --> 40:26.241 [SPEAKER_03]: I got to, I got to Orange County and I didn't know one free way from another. 40:26.321 --> 40:27.802 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know one road from another. 40:27.822 --> 40:33.045 [SPEAKER_03]: I was doing good to find my way home and man, the church began to grow and it like exploded. 40:33.065 --> 40:37.348 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we were up to two services and we went to three and then we went to three. 40:37.898 --> 40:50.081 [SPEAKER_03]: five, for four and a half years, we're at five services, three in the morning, two in the night, and then we built a new building, and that was full the first day, and I said, we're not going to extra services. 40:50.461 --> 40:56.263 [SPEAKER_03]: I got the first standing govation, they go, I'll say, great, we don't want to go to more service, and we're going to go deeper. 40:56.703 --> 40:57.063 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:57.323 --> 40:58.784 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get to know each other. 40:58.844 --> 41:00.564 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to love each other. 41:00.944 --> 41:03.865 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to learn to forgive each other, and I'll look back on that. 41:06.045 --> 41:09.486 [SPEAKER_03]: I laugh as I think God will weigh ahead of me. 41:09.726 --> 41:10.506 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 41:10.547 --> 41:12.047 [SPEAKER_03]: You've always been ahead of us. 41:13.747 --> 41:27.731 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll laugh at thinking God, we would have one child, and then God gave us a darling little girl, Karee said, it's after we'd had a terrible accident total in our car in a drug and hit us. 41:29.171 --> 41:47.341 [SPEAKER_03]: and sent he was had already had a miscarriage of broke our hearts and we had a little boy and he was thrown into the windshield and broke his jaw and sent he was thrown into the gear shaft and he had hit her right on her side and she began to hemorrhage and this is baby. 41:50.042 --> 41:51.923 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want to lose that baby. 41:52.944 --> 41:53.164 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:53.544 --> 41:55.925 [SPEAKER_03]: She was born perfectly. 41:56.946 --> 41:59.147 [SPEAKER_03]: The doctor brought her over and he said, well, here she is. 41:59.187 --> 42:02.169 [SPEAKER_03]: Those things again couldn't get in where you live. 42:02.209 --> 42:02.589 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 42:02.909 --> 42:04.350 [SPEAKER_03]: So he brings her over and he's got it. 42:04.810 --> 42:06.951 [SPEAKER_03]: Part of the blanket is covering her arm. 42:06.992 --> 42:07.432 [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, 42:08.072 --> 42:11.255 [SPEAKER_03]: There's something wrong because the first thing I thought was something wrong with her. 42:11.275 --> 42:16.700 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he said, oh no, look at that arm, I said you've hurt your face. 42:17.181 --> 42:19.142 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought that's it. 42:19.303 --> 42:19.683 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect. 42:20.183 --> 42:22.906 [SPEAKER_02]: Alpha Omega. 42:23.546 --> 42:24.067 [SPEAKER_03]: There it is. 42:24.107 --> 42:25.228 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me go to New England. 42:26.149 --> 42:27.170 [SPEAKER_03]: Snow is a lot there. 42:28.371 --> 42:29.111 [SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot to do. 42:29.772 --> 42:31.432 [SPEAKER_03]: We're something. 42:32.553 --> 42:33.473 [SPEAKER_03]: And we did that. 42:33.713 --> 42:35.114 [SPEAKER_03]: And more we had another baby. 42:35.674 --> 42:40.336 [SPEAKER_03]: And that darling little calling came in and blessed our whole with that smile. 42:40.936 --> 42:44.818 [SPEAKER_03]: That sweet little temperament and so different from her sister. 42:45.658 --> 42:50.240 [SPEAKER_03]: And Chris has got one kind of humor in calling as another kind of humor in there. 42:50.280 --> 42:52.721 [SPEAKER_01]: That's so great, girl. 42:53.541 --> 42:55.262 [SPEAKER_01]: Grow up and then I think that's it. 42:55.442 --> 42:55.962 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 42:56.062 --> 42:56.383 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 42:58.253 --> 43:06.376 [SPEAKER_03]: It moved back to Texas, and since it says to be one day, well, Daddy, guess what? 43:07.577 --> 43:09.017 [SPEAKER_01]: And we have another little boy. 43:09.857 --> 43:10.478 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 43:10.538 --> 43:13.399 [SPEAKER_03]: Boy, girl, girl, boy, quiver full. 43:13.459 --> 43:14.299 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm 61 to 70. 43:16.900 --> 43:19.263 [SPEAKER_03]: so that now when there are 60s and 50s. 43:19.303 --> 43:21.126 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, what a gift. 43:21.787 --> 43:28.055 [SPEAKER_00]: What's some encouragement you would give to those who are maybe have teenagers right now or launching. 43:28.336 --> 43:29.317 [SPEAKER_03]: I should be for that. 43:29.778 --> 43:30.078 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 43:30.358 --> 43:31.961 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you have to know your child. 43:32.061 --> 43:32.341 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 43:33.323 --> 43:37.790 [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't know how to do that, I'll never say things like this, but since I'm with friends, I'm saying. 43:37.830 --> 43:38.451 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do it. 43:38.691 --> 43:40.554 [SPEAKER_03]: Read my book, You and Your Child. 43:40.675 --> 43:41.115 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 43:41.155 --> 43:43.158 [SPEAKER_00]: Learn about the Bits in Your Child. 43:43.178 --> 43:44.160 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes. 43:44.741 --> 43:48.066 [SPEAKER_03]: Every child has his or her own Bits. 43:48.927 --> 43:52.110 [SPEAKER_03]: No, two, or like, not even twins. 43:52.290 --> 43:53.992 [SPEAKER_03]: No, not even sign these twins. 43:54.252 --> 43:55.393 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right. 43:55.754 --> 43:56.674 [SPEAKER_03]: Identical twins. 43:56.975 --> 43:59.297 [SPEAKER_03]: They're not like, mothers will tell you. 43:59.797 --> 44:00.818 [SPEAKER_01]: You think they're alike. 44:00.898 --> 44:02.620 [SPEAKER_03]: You ought to know what I know. 44:02.960 --> 44:03.241 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 44:03.281 --> 44:05.563 [SPEAKER_03]: We had triplets in our church in Portland. 44:07.024 --> 44:12.167 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I mean, I didn't take a- But one could date a boy she didn't enjoy. 44:12.527 --> 44:14.188 [SPEAKER_03]: She said her sister that that's yeah. 44:14.208 --> 44:16.169 [SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I can't even handle this for a year. 44:16.289 --> 44:16.950 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no. 44:17.330 --> 44:19.851 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, the mother said they are so different. 44:19.871 --> 44:20.232 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 44:20.252 --> 44:21.632 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's a great story. 44:21.913 --> 44:22.333 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 44:22.713 --> 44:23.874 [SPEAKER_03]: Even triplets are different. 44:23.914 --> 44:25.394 [SPEAKER_03]: Get to know who they are. 44:25.955 --> 44:27.135 [SPEAKER_03]: Spend time with them. 44:27.516 --> 44:33.579 [SPEAKER_03]: Pay attention to them, observe them, talk to them, better listen to them. 44:33.679 --> 44:33.879 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 44:34.099 --> 44:34.900 [SPEAKER_03]: Watch them. 44:37.228 --> 44:54.498 [SPEAKER_03]: lay aside some of your schedule since you had children and since you had them through this priority going to you can there is no accident there is no mistake I really mean that some of the great artists 44:55.639 --> 45:00.002 [SPEAKER_03]: They say they were illegitimate and they were virtually mistaken. 45:00.042 --> 45:02.924 [SPEAKER_03]: They were a mistake, they were a mistake and they contributed. 45:03.024 --> 45:03.524 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. 45:05.165 --> 45:09.008 [SPEAKER_03]: And as you get to know your child, stay with it. 45:10.529 --> 45:15.832 [SPEAKER_03]: So as they become teenagers, you've now learned to listen to them. 45:17.847 --> 45:33.453 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, really, this one time I was very, very busy and a period of time in my life and fuller-toned writing books on the radio and conferences, church, by services, no. 45:34.718 --> 45:36.939 [SPEAKER_03]: So I was at supper, and I was talking real fast. 45:36.979 --> 45:38.219 [SPEAKER_03]: I was passing food around. 45:38.239 --> 45:43.282 [SPEAKER_03]: We were going to call him and say, Dad, I don't have to cut some to tell you about today, but I'm not going to tell you really fast. 45:43.802 --> 45:45.903 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I'm calling you. 45:46.743 --> 45:48.004 [SPEAKER_03]: You could tell me slowly. 45:48.564 --> 45:53.046 [SPEAKER_03]: And she said, Daddy, listen slowly. 45:54.126 --> 45:55.467 [SPEAKER_03]: Listen slowly. 45:55.767 --> 45:56.627 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that so good? 45:56.667 --> 45:57.628 [SPEAKER_01]: That's so good. 45:58.028 --> 45:58.828 [SPEAKER_03]: I just kissed her. 46:00.129 --> 46:00.849 [SPEAKER_03]: I just held her. 46:01.469 --> 46:01.789 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 46:02.550 --> 46:03.530 [SPEAKER_03]: Listen slowly. 46:06.609 --> 46:28.556 [SPEAKER_03]: When they disobey, you don't excuse it, address it, and if it calls for any kind of parental punishment, always under control, always with moderation, always with compassion, apply that privately. 46:29.638 --> 46:32.480 [SPEAKER_03]: Never discipline in front of others. 46:33.481 --> 46:33.962 [SPEAKER_03]: Never. 46:34.342 --> 46:34.782 [SPEAKER_03]: It's good. 46:34.842 --> 46:37.384 [SPEAKER_03]: That's like a very single day out of their friends. 46:37.565 --> 46:37.805 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 46:38.701 --> 47:03.606 [SPEAKER_03]: never compare report cards never compare one with the other you know your sister always does so I'm not my sister yeah I was forever compared to my brother yeah I'm not horrible yes I'm not I can't play the panel like that like I I I can't do math like he does it I don't understand algebra like he does even to trigonometry even to solid geometry 47:05.175 --> 47:09.197 [SPEAKER_03]: It went to rice, where it's unbelievable. 47:10.118 --> 47:12.079 [SPEAKER_03]: No bell prize winners teach it there. 47:13.580 --> 47:26.067 [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't go there, and I knew it, but I didn't try to be or, but my folks wanted me to be another orval, because I wasn't, I was a mistake, more of a mistake, don't do that to your kids. 47:26.287 --> 47:26.547 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 47:27.368 --> 47:30.830 [SPEAKER_03]: When they get to be teenagers, they will be asking hard questions. 47:30.850 --> 47:31.130 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 47:31.963 --> 47:35.926 [SPEAKER_03]: There'll be questioning things you, the whole deer. 47:37.026 --> 47:42.790 [SPEAKER_03]: Hold them deer, but try your best to be open to how they're looking at it. 47:42.950 --> 47:43.210 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 47:43.591 --> 47:45.452 [SPEAKER_03]: Remember what they're dealing with every day. 47:45.472 --> 47:46.132 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 47:46.473 --> 47:46.953 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's... 47:49.665 --> 47:52.046 [SPEAKER_03]: peer pressure like you and I never knew. 47:52.206 --> 47:53.627 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's 100%. 47:53.787 --> 47:54.107 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 47:55.548 --> 48:01.471 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, I'd rather be 92 any day today than 60. 48:01.611 --> 48:01.871 [SPEAKER_03]: 70. 48:01.931 --> 48:02.932 [SPEAKER_03]: I know. 48:02.952 --> 48:09.135 [SPEAKER_03]: The pressure of that to drink, to do drugs, to get involved in sexual things. 48:09.255 --> 48:09.455 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 48:09.935 --> 48:17.779 [SPEAKER_03]: To hide things from your parents, to do things on the side of the slide that you know are wrong, to lie. 48:19.227 --> 48:21.108 [SPEAKER_03]: And your kids are fighting their way through that. 48:21.268 --> 48:26.171 [SPEAKER_03]: And they know better because you've taught them for ages, birth, to when they were there. 48:26.191 --> 48:26.591 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 48:27.131 --> 48:32.054 [SPEAKER_03]: So they were not a handle that, rather than preaching to them. 48:32.374 --> 48:32.794 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 48:34.155 --> 48:35.836 [SPEAKER_03]: Listen to them and help them. 48:36.316 --> 48:36.956 [SPEAKER_02]: It's good. 48:38.837 --> 48:40.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes take their side. 48:41.759 --> 48:44.320 [SPEAKER_03]: Chuck came home one day and was in your tears. 48:50.941 --> 48:56.483 [SPEAKER_03]: It's going on, buddy, let's see, I said, he said, I don't want to go back to school. 48:58.524 --> 49:00.544 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, oh, why? 49:00.564 --> 49:04.866 [SPEAKER_03]: He was at a private Christian school, we had our kids in. 49:06.026 --> 49:08.587 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, cause I haven't a meme teacher. 49:10.932 --> 49:11.933 [SPEAKER_03]: What makes her mean? 49:12.473 --> 49:15.575 [SPEAKER_03]: Most parents would say, never call up to teach me. 49:15.935 --> 49:17.276 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't talk like that. 49:17.596 --> 49:18.416 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't say that. 49:18.696 --> 49:18.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 49:19.197 --> 49:19.917 [SPEAKER_03]: Listen to it. 49:20.277 --> 49:20.417 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 49:21.798 --> 49:24.040 [SPEAKER_03]: She may be me and in this case. 49:25.399 --> 49:35.282 [SPEAKER_03]: She would put kids out of the room locked out in the cold without a coat to discipline them for something they did role. 49:35.622 --> 49:39.343 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was Chuck's friend, who's out there shivering in the cold? 49:39.403 --> 49:39.903 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 49:40.843 --> 49:43.204 [SPEAKER_03]: And he learned to hate school then. 49:43.964 --> 49:45.825 [SPEAKER_03]: And he hated school the rest of his years. 49:46.085 --> 49:46.605 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 49:47.843 --> 49:52.766 [SPEAKER_03]: So we went to that school and reported the teacher, and met with a school master. 49:54.447 --> 50:00.690 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, you either do something about the school, about the teacher, or we're pulling our children out of the school in this tunnel threat. 50:01.210 --> 50:03.892 [SPEAKER_03]: I just told my children were their teachers. 50:04.072 --> 50:05.132 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, I'll take care of it. 50:05.372 --> 50:06.593 [SPEAKER_03]: She was gone in two weeks. 50:06.773 --> 50:07.293 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. 50:08.294 --> 50:13.837 [SPEAKER_03]: My son said to me, one day, thanks dad for helping me. 50:16.542 --> 50:17.984 [SPEAKER_03]: that's how you win your teenager. 50:18.724 --> 50:19.665 [SPEAKER_03]: You start early. 50:20.626 --> 50:21.808 [SPEAKER_03]: You pay attention to them. 50:22.709 --> 50:24.531 [SPEAKER_03]: You tell them how valuable they are. 50:25.672 --> 50:28.335 [SPEAKER_03]: You tell them they'll never be another one of them. 50:30.054 --> 50:31.555 [SPEAKER_03]: God never makes a clone. 50:31.575 --> 50:32.035 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope. 50:32.155 --> 50:32.736 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 50:33.736 --> 50:33.997 [SPEAKER_03]: Ever. 50:34.817 --> 50:35.077 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 50:35.237 --> 50:41.081 [SPEAKER_03]: You made me look like you made dress and like you may even have similar horses. 50:41.301 --> 50:42.002 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 50:42.262 --> 50:47.245 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very different down inside you are specially made. 50:47.645 --> 50:47.905 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 50:48.926 --> 50:53.329 [SPEAKER_03]: Made by God that's who you are. 50:53.549 --> 50:58.552 [SPEAKER_03]: Our kids grew up believing that so they've reached adulthood. 51:00.668 --> 51:02.109 [SPEAKER_03]: a proud of their independence. 51:04.070 --> 51:07.012 [SPEAKER_03]: If they don't care what others think, yeah. 51:09.814 --> 51:12.415 [SPEAKER_03]: They care that they do what is best was right. 51:13.776 --> 51:16.217 [SPEAKER_03]: That they have priorities and live up to them. 51:17.258 --> 51:21.240 [SPEAKER_03]: Teenagers are hard years because that's when they start asking the questions. 51:22.341 --> 51:26.864 [SPEAKER_03]: And they start saying things that you never expected them to say. 51:28.911 --> 51:29.852 [SPEAKER_03]: And they're testing you. 51:30.192 --> 51:31.393 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they are. 51:31.513 --> 51:38.258 [SPEAKER_03]: They're checking to find out that you're really as patient as you look like you are in the pulpit. 51:38.558 --> 51:38.759 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 51:38.839 --> 51:39.059 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 51:40.460 --> 51:43.082 [SPEAKER_03]: Or as you sound like you are as the pastor's wife. 51:43.202 --> 51:43.462 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 51:44.223 --> 51:46.845 [SPEAKER_03]: And when they find out that you're not, they'll tell you you're not. 51:48.226 --> 51:48.346 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 51:48.386 --> 51:48.606 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 51:49.387 --> 51:50.287 [SPEAKER_03]: It'd be hard to hear. 51:50.307 --> 51:51.028 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:51.848 --> 51:54.470 [SPEAKER_03]: We always allow our children to tell us the truth. 51:56.569 --> 51:57.530 [SPEAKER_03]: I just want truth. 51:58.050 --> 51:58.290 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 51:58.570 --> 51:59.130 [SPEAKER_03]: I really do. 51:59.170 --> 52:02.432 [SPEAKER_00]: I just want truth, even if it hurts. 52:02.492 --> 52:02.832 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 52:03.613 --> 52:04.293 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good for us. 52:04.433 --> 52:06.014 [SPEAKER_03]: And I will always do that with you. 52:06.474 --> 52:07.875 [SPEAKER_03]: I will never lie to you. 52:07.995 --> 52:09.636 [SPEAKER_03]: I will never tell you a lie. 52:09.856 --> 52:10.496 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 52:10.616 --> 52:15.699 [SPEAKER_03]: If I realize it's a lie, I may tell you something that isn't true and think it's true. 52:15.779 --> 52:16.079 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 52:16.159 --> 52:20.821 [SPEAKER_03]: But I will never deliberately tell you something that isn't true. 52:22.382 --> 52:23.303 [SPEAKER_03]: And when they know that, 52:24.917 --> 52:27.403 [SPEAKER_03]: You're beginning, you're starting a good pattern. 52:29.087 --> 52:31.854 [SPEAKER_03]: Consistency is very important to a teenager. 52:33.688 --> 52:36.189 [SPEAKER_03]: They want you to be the same, that's awfully hard to be. 52:36.589 --> 52:37.129 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 52:37.429 --> 52:38.670 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's a hard days. 52:39.530 --> 52:41.691 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's your feel like being patient. 52:41.811 --> 52:42.171 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 52:42.671 --> 52:43.192 [SPEAKER_03]: And nice. 52:43.672 --> 52:43.952 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 52:44.012 --> 52:44.612 [SPEAKER_03]: And tired. 52:46.093 --> 52:47.553 [SPEAKER_03]: So you tell them, yeah. 52:47.873 --> 52:49.654 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a hard day for Dad today. 52:49.674 --> 52:50.654 [SPEAKER_03]: I want you to know that. 52:50.895 --> 52:51.595 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, hmm. 52:51.775 --> 52:52.375 [SPEAKER_03]: They'll care. 52:52.395 --> 52:53.275 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 52:53.536 --> 52:54.136 [SPEAKER_03]: They'll listen. 52:54.556 --> 52:55.136 [SPEAKER_03]: They'll happen. 52:55.416 --> 52:55.976 [SPEAKER_03]: You tell them. 52:56.357 --> 52:56.697 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 52:56.737 --> 52:57.137 [SPEAKER_00]: Tell them. 52:57.417 --> 52:57.677 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 52:57.977 --> 53:00.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I and two people really kind of tell me all. 53:00.418 --> 53:01.419 [SPEAKER_03]: Why would they do that? 53:01.479 --> 53:02.219 [SPEAKER_03]: What they say? 53:02.839 --> 53:06.821 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you don't need to know what they said, but it was hard to hear it. 53:06.861 --> 53:11.943 [SPEAKER_03]: And what's sure it was, Daddy, and not suddenly they understand the impatience. 53:13.164 --> 53:13.524 [SPEAKER_03]: It's good. 53:13.664 --> 53:17.606 [SPEAKER_03]: See, that she may have never disciplined them in front of anyone else. 53:17.726 --> 53:18.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's good. 53:19.287 --> 53:19.607 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 53:19.727 --> 53:26.450 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're in a store, they misbehaved, your kids are growing now, but when they're small, taking out to the car, 53:28.001 --> 53:30.863 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you can lecture them or correct them or whatever. 53:31.203 --> 53:34.325 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't do it in front of people walking down the aisle, don't see people. 53:35.146 --> 53:36.967 [SPEAKER_03]: Us all mother kick a child. 53:37.667 --> 53:43.691 [SPEAKER_03]: When he, that couldn't reach a phone at the booth and it's a phone dropped as you can. 53:44.292 --> 53:48.254 [SPEAKER_03]: So all I could do to keep from going over saying, say, little lady, lady, lady. 53:50.075 --> 53:50.276 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 53:51.676 --> 53:53.518 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a terrible thing that you're doing, man. 53:53.558 --> 53:53.998 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 53:56.570 --> 54:02.392 [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard sometimes when you're out in the open and you see things like that, you want to step in. 54:02.772 --> 54:03.612 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you have to. 54:03.812 --> 54:04.233 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:04.453 --> 54:04.973 [SPEAKER_03]: And I have. 54:07.013 --> 54:08.834 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good question about teams. 54:08.894 --> 54:09.094 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:09.534 --> 54:12.255 [SPEAKER_03]: That's when the trouble starts, you know. 54:12.455 --> 54:13.236 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:13.276 --> 54:22.439 [SPEAKER_03]: They'll try tattoos and they'll try drinking and drugs or many drugs, but thankfully ours were in and out before there were many drugs going on. 54:23.779 --> 54:25.040 [SPEAKER_03]: But there was plenty of drinking. 54:25.280 --> 54:25.981 [SPEAKER_03]: There was drinking. 54:26.061 --> 54:26.822 [SPEAKER_03]: I was in school. 54:27.022 --> 54:27.342 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:27.502 --> 54:28.283 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 54:28.783 --> 54:29.424 [SPEAKER_01]: What are you? 54:30.925 --> 54:40.492 [SPEAKER_01]: Like as I'm getting older, I'm always fascinated at what the Lord's teaching me in that season and how it's built upon. 54:40.652 --> 54:42.114 [SPEAKER_01]: What is already taught me? 54:42.934 --> 54:44.776 [SPEAKER_01]: What at almost 92? 54:45.456 --> 54:46.337 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like the Lord's 54:51.721 --> 54:53.125 [SPEAKER_03]: the value of the home. 54:53.145 --> 54:55.552 [SPEAKER_03]: And family is one thing. 54:56.294 --> 54:58.922 [SPEAKER_03]: You really see that as you get older. 55:00.675 --> 55:15.639 [SPEAKER_03]: Not because I'm homebound the wife, I just see the value of having those around you that you burst and raised your raised cattle, your rear children. 55:15.659 --> 55:26.602 [SPEAKER_03]: I teach my sister taught me that you're your children, and as you're rear them, and now that you are reaping the benefits, they've got their own children, they're learning from 55:27.182 --> 55:28.622 [SPEAKER_03]: their time with their children. 55:29.482 --> 55:30.883 [SPEAKER_03]: What a tough assignment that is. 55:31.703 --> 55:33.163 [SPEAKER_03]: You value that. 55:35.744 --> 55:40.024 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm also learning the value of every day. 55:42.265 --> 55:42.785 [SPEAKER_03]: Every day. 55:42.925 --> 55:44.445 [SPEAKER_03]: No day is insignificant. 55:45.285 --> 55:55.347 [SPEAKER_03]: Even though it may be a tough day, even though it may go by quickly, it's a significant period of time that God arranged for you to live. 55:57.088 --> 56:00.812 [SPEAKER_03]: I also am learning, there are no accidents. 56:02.573 --> 56:06.337 [SPEAKER_03]: There are events that come across to us as accidents. 56:07.058 --> 56:12.523 [SPEAKER_03]: But the final analysis, if you really believe in a sovereign God, he's never surprised. 56:12.803 --> 56:13.143 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 56:13.324 --> 56:14.244 [SPEAKER_03]: He's permitted it. 56:14.585 --> 56:14.885 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 56:15.105 --> 56:19.549 [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't cause every thing, but he allows everything. 56:21.014 --> 56:22.555 [SPEAKER_03]: How much do you explain, Job? 56:22.755 --> 56:23.155 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 56:24.156 --> 56:28.699 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the problem of Job is he never got to read the first two chapters. 56:28.859 --> 56:29.500 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 56:29.520 --> 56:34.623 [SPEAKER_00]: And never knew there was a so true conversation of thing going on between God and Satan. 56:34.723 --> 56:38.866 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would have helped so much, but God chose not to tell him. 56:39.026 --> 56:40.587 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the trust without seeing. 56:40.887 --> 56:41.247 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 56:41.708 --> 56:46.251 [SPEAKER_03]: So he says in chapter 23, listen to this, he knows the way that I take. 56:47.215 --> 56:49.897 [SPEAKER_03]: When he has tried me, I will come forth as gold. 56:50.698 --> 56:52.119 [SPEAKER_03]: My foot has held his steps. 56:52.639 --> 56:54.720 [SPEAKER_03]: His way have I kept it not declined. 56:55.141 --> 56:58.243 [SPEAKER_03]: I've turned back, I've not turned back from the command of his lips. 56:59.023 --> 57:05.888 [SPEAKER_03]: I have, I love this, I have esteemed the words of his mouth, more than my necessary food. 57:07.730 --> 57:09.351 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd rather drink in his word. 57:10.754 --> 57:16.999 [SPEAKER_03]: then drink in iced tea, or eat a nice steak, or have a wonderful breakfast. 57:18.140 --> 57:22.664 [SPEAKER_03]: I have a steamed words in his mouth, more than my food. 57:24.806 --> 57:28.609 [SPEAKER_03]: Cover with boils, living at the city dump. 57:36.516 --> 57:40.699 [SPEAKER_03]: Living with a wife who finally got it, but let's get her a little break. 57:41.020 --> 57:41.240 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 57:42.020 --> 57:45.623 [SPEAKER_03]: And by his heart on Mrs. Job, she lost seven kids, too. 57:45.884 --> 57:46.444 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 57:47.125 --> 57:52.609 [SPEAKER_03]: She's watching her husband in this dreadful boil of all over him. 57:52.629 --> 57:53.390 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 57:54.731 --> 57:56.412 [SPEAKER_03]: It'd be better off than dead honey. 57:56.552 --> 57:57.133 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 57:57.413 --> 57:58.594 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's pray that you die. 57:58.914 --> 57:59.595 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no. 58:01.436 --> 58:03.278 [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's terrible to watch this. 58:03.358 --> 58:04.639 [SPEAKER_03]: It's horrible to live it. 58:06.463 --> 58:07.604 [SPEAKER_03]: This is no accident. 58:08.384 --> 58:08.644 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 58:10.785 --> 58:12.506 [SPEAKER_03]: That kid drove his platform. 58:13.346 --> 58:15.927 [SPEAKER_03]: Without boils, his words don't mean as much. 58:15.947 --> 58:16.287 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 58:18.268 --> 58:19.469 [SPEAKER_03]: So every day counts. 58:21.169 --> 58:22.310 [SPEAKER_03]: Every event counts. 58:23.050 --> 58:24.571 [SPEAKER_03]: Help your children know these things. 58:24.651 --> 58:25.151 [SPEAKER_03]: Another thing. 58:26.012 --> 58:28.393 [SPEAKER_03]: I've learned the body of passing the mind of your kids. 58:28.413 --> 58:29.113 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's another one. 58:31.413 --> 58:36.315 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't wait till later to say to other people, tell other people what they mean to you. 58:36.515 --> 58:37.235 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 58:38.036 --> 58:38.996 [SPEAKER_00]: Tell them they couldn't. 58:39.396 --> 58:39.656 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 58:40.116 --> 58:47.559 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, how many people would be great sight of laid their head on my shoulder and sit? 58:47.579 --> 58:50.600 [SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't I tell him while it was alive? 58:50.620 --> 58:53.201 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 58:54.141 --> 58:55.502 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell him while you're alive. 58:55.922 --> 58:56.782 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, they're alive. 58:58.579 --> 59:01.720 [SPEAKER_03]: I've told my wife every possible thing I can think of. 59:03.881 --> 59:04.922 [SPEAKER_03]: Then I feel for her. 59:06.483 --> 59:08.424 [SPEAKER_03]: I tell you, I tell her her value. 59:09.104 --> 59:14.106 [SPEAKER_03]: I tell you the benefit has been to live with her and to have her as my partner. 59:15.407 --> 59:18.008 [SPEAKER_03]: I tell her how much she has meant to the ministry. 59:19.678 --> 59:24.659 [SPEAKER_03]: having her there Sunday after Sunday after Sunday, putting up with my preaching. 59:25.219 --> 59:33.140 [SPEAKER_03]: And hearing it knowing what she dealt with that previous week in a week moment, and she's still willing to come. 59:33.520 --> 59:33.860 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 59:34.080 --> 59:38.141 [SPEAKER_00]: And not turn her right and say, you should see him on Wednesday. 59:38.181 --> 59:38.441 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 59:38.841 --> 59:41.282 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, she just takes it to special grace. 59:41.642 --> 59:41.882 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 59:42.182 --> 59:42.942 [SPEAKER_01]: Such grace. 59:43.642 --> 59:44.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Such grace. 59:45.282 --> 59:45.963 [SPEAKER_03]: I've learned that. 59:46.743 --> 59:48.703 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm thinking on that. 59:51.108 --> 59:52.589 [SPEAKER_03]: I think about you, friends. 59:53.209 --> 59:53.849 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm. 59:53.889 --> 59:54.289 [SPEAKER_03]: Huge. 59:55.230 --> 59:55.450 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh. 59:56.370 --> 59:58.091 [SPEAKER_03]: We take them for granted a little bit. 59:58.131 --> 59:58.471 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 59:58.491 --> 59:58.711 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:00:01.272 --> 01:00:02.072 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean a friend. 01:00:02.512 --> 01:00:02.912 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 01:00:04.433 --> 01:00:05.633 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean a real friend. 01:00:07.214 --> 01:00:08.274 [SPEAKER_03]: They're there when you need them. 01:00:10.515 --> 01:00:11.795 [SPEAKER_03]: They're there to pray for you. 01:00:12.516 --> 01:00:16.077 [SPEAKER_03]: They're there to hear your worst secrets. 01:00:17.277 --> 01:00:18.978 [SPEAKER_01]: They're there to help you recover. 01:00:22.630 --> 01:00:26.152 [SPEAKER_03]: They were to put their arms around you and say, I'm right here with you. 01:00:26.972 --> 01:00:28.493 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, I'm not walking away. 01:00:30.594 --> 01:00:31.954 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't drive me away. 01:00:34.815 --> 01:00:39.517 [SPEAKER_03]: When I'm a little girl, when I'm a little girl, 60's. 01:00:40.578 --> 01:00:43.659 [SPEAKER_03]: When I'm a daughter, Teresa was born, 01:00:52.917 --> 01:00:55.399 [SPEAKER_03]: move out often more than the end. 01:00:55.680 --> 01:00:57.902 [SPEAKER_03]: And she needed glasses that were really thick. 01:00:59.744 --> 01:01:13.857 [SPEAKER_03]: And by the time we moved from Texas to California, we really needed pediatric homologists to take a look into and give us a diagnosis. 01:01:15.952 --> 01:01:20.055 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, your daughter needs the muscles. 01:01:20.115 --> 01:01:23.858 [SPEAKER_03]: There are six muscles, he said, that hold the eye in place. 01:01:23.878 --> 01:01:24.939 [SPEAKER_03]: He did it just like that. 01:01:25.700 --> 01:01:29.503 [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, it's a little bit of a crap suit. 01:01:29.563 --> 01:01:35.588 [SPEAKER_03]: When you go in there as a dog, because you think, you know, ahead of time, but you get in there, you find, oh, it's really that muscle. 01:01:35.648 --> 01:01:38.830 [SPEAKER_03]: And Esther, adjust his surgery to that. 01:01:39.391 --> 01:01:41.573 [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, I will do my very best. 01:01:42.943 --> 01:01:50.706 [SPEAKER_03]: to correct these muscles so that when I finished, her eye will, will be straight. 01:01:51.566 --> 01:01:54.027 [SPEAKER_03]: She won't even need to ask us that she won't need to ask that. 01:01:54.087 --> 01:02:07.092 [SPEAKER_03]: She said, well now remember, it may take some time, just be patient and it may not be a parent when she comes out of surgery. 01:02:07.857 --> 01:02:09.238 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I forgot that. 01:02:09.298 --> 01:02:11.419 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, what we're paying you, buddy. 01:02:12.339 --> 01:02:14.801 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you, and that was maybe straight. 01:02:15.081 --> 01:02:16.582 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that what that show makes up? 01:02:16.622 --> 01:02:19.723 [SPEAKER_03]: She came out and this time I was looking directly at her nose. 01:02:20.004 --> 01:02:20.804 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh. 01:02:20.884 --> 01:02:21.945 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I could see was white. 01:02:22.285 --> 01:02:22.645 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:02:23.045 --> 01:02:23.245 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh. 01:02:25.407 --> 01:02:28.388 [SPEAKER_03]: And I set some ugly things. 01:02:29.469 --> 01:02:33.091 [SPEAKER_03]: Sit, you heard them, our daughter was still under her anesthesia. 01:02:34.792 --> 01:02:35.492 [SPEAKER_03]: And I walked out. 01:02:37.482 --> 01:02:51.839 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I'm, I've had it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, and a couple of nurses showed up, one of them, some was wrong, and I said, no, there's nothing wrong, except what the doctor did, something like that. 01:02:51.899 --> 01:02:52.379 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. 01:02:52.399 --> 01:02:53.861 [SPEAKER_03]: Some as a nine statement. 01:02:56.220 --> 01:02:58.781 [SPEAKER_03]: I went back to my study and I put on my doors. 01:02:59.461 --> 01:03:01.702 [SPEAKER_03]: Do not disturb the other door. 01:03:01.923 --> 01:03:08.005 [SPEAKER_03]: Do not disturb and I gave my secretary the day off and she never knew why until later. 01:03:09.806 --> 01:03:18.290 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, finally, I think my card need to repair so I took it in while it was a way of friend. 01:03:20.291 --> 01:03:21.731 [SPEAKER_03]: Bob Elias came by. 01:03:22.532 --> 01:03:23.472 [SPEAKER_03]: Bob's an artist. 01:03:26.368 --> 01:03:27.810 [SPEAKER_03]: And Bob had heard what happened. 01:03:29.031 --> 01:03:30.472 [SPEAKER_03]: Friends, find out about this. 01:03:32.714 --> 01:03:33.856 [SPEAKER_03]: I love this story. 01:03:35.377 --> 01:03:40.402 [SPEAKER_03]: He sat down at my desk, and he got a big piece of paper and he drew a picture of a monk. 01:03:44.166 --> 01:03:48.951 [SPEAKER_03]: And Roman all in sandals and big toes in the sandals. 01:03:51.704 --> 01:03:54.366 [SPEAKER_03]: and he wrote in the script, beautiful script. 01:03:54.487 --> 01:03:56.668 [SPEAKER_03]: Did we and our own strength confide? 01:03:56.688 --> 01:03:59.030 [SPEAKER_03]: I striving would be, we say. 01:04:00.292 --> 01:04:03.915 [SPEAKER_03]: We're not the right men on our side, the man of God's own choosing. 01:04:03.935 --> 01:04:15.885 [SPEAKER_03]: The status quo that may be, Christ Jesus in his he, Lord, semi-auth his name from age to age the same, as he must win the battle. 01:04:19.494 --> 01:04:32.823 [SPEAKER_03]: Brother Martin, he wrote, and sounded the bottom, the E, I knew who it was, I knew the art, and I walked in, he was gone. 01:04:36.386 --> 01:04:45.432 [SPEAKER_03]: And I cried and thank God for Bobby Lines and finally went back to hospital and, 01:04:48.028 --> 01:04:49.870 [SPEAKER_03]: or the people were showing in her eye. 01:04:52.973 --> 01:04:55.496 [SPEAKER_03]: God's in the process of making a fool of me. 01:04:57.778 --> 01:05:00.200 [SPEAKER_03]: That eye today is as straight as an arrow. 01:05:01.181 --> 01:05:01.682 [UNKNOWN]: Love that. 01:05:02.623 --> 01:05:06.366 [SPEAKER_02]: Just an episode of the... Just a straight. 01:05:09.269 --> 01:05:11.712 [SPEAKER_03]: Well my friend came by another friend named No. 01:05:15.047 --> 01:05:21.931 [SPEAKER_03]: Earl, moody, he owned moody clothing, gave me all the suits, how warm I was in Fullerton. 01:05:22.531 --> 01:05:23.992 [SPEAKER_03]: He gave Billy Graham his suits. 01:05:24.392 --> 01:05:25.013 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 01:05:25.893 --> 01:05:26.113 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:05:26.734 --> 01:05:27.654 [SPEAKER_03]: What a gift, huh? 01:05:27.974 --> 01:05:28.415 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:05:28.515 --> 01:05:33.978 [SPEAKER_03]: Not let me pay for a thing of what they dressed me in the nicest suits. 01:05:34.238 --> 01:05:38.020 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, Earl came by and said, hey, let's go to lunch and I said, 01:05:39.263 --> 01:06:03.631 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to go to lunch, I don't want to go to lunch, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to lunch with Bob, I don't want to go to 01:06:05.573 --> 01:06:16.777 [SPEAKER_03]: And I love you what's I found out and met your wife and met all your kids and I believe God's hand is on all of you. 01:06:19.218 --> 01:06:25.740 [SPEAKER_03]: And I am your friend and you cannot build a boat big enough to keep me away. 01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:26.200 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:06:27.780 --> 01:06:29.661 [SPEAKER_03]: I will I will bridge the boat. 01:06:31.282 --> 01:06:35.003 [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot go far enough in the woods that I cannot find you. 01:06:37.004 --> 01:06:37.904 [SPEAKER_03]: I am here for you. 01:06:38.184 --> 01:06:38.825 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:06:40.105 --> 01:06:40.485 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 01:06:40.765 --> 01:06:41.766 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll never forget that. 01:06:42.326 --> 01:06:42.646 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 01:06:43.827 --> 01:06:44.907 [SPEAKER_03]: It was hard to be safe. 01:06:44.947 --> 01:06:45.987 [SPEAKER_03]: He's an old veteran. 01:06:47.108 --> 01:06:48.848 [SPEAKER_03]: He made a Sicily landing. 01:06:49.429 --> 01:06:51.309 [SPEAKER_03]: When he landed, his hair was black. 01:06:51.369 --> 01:06:53.430 [SPEAKER_03]: When he finished the fire, his hair was white. 01:06:55.678 --> 01:07:01.260 [SPEAKER_03]: The fight isn't Russian, it's like Earl Mooney, not Danny. 01:07:03.862 --> 01:07:12.025 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're back to the hospital tonight, saw the eye, little by little, the next day, next morning. 01:07:13.026 --> 01:07:14.866 [SPEAKER_03]: I could see half the eye, it was around. 01:07:24.528 --> 01:07:25.749 [SPEAKER_03]: I said the eyes turning. 01:07:25.829 --> 01:07:27.611 [SPEAKER_03]: She goes, I noticed. 01:07:28.832 --> 01:07:29.773 [SPEAKER_03]: Never once said. 01:07:29.793 --> 01:07:31.174 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or she was shamed. 01:07:31.194 --> 01:07:31.294 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:07:31.494 --> 01:07:34.997 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what you said, she would never say that. 01:07:36.538 --> 01:07:37.379 [SPEAKER_03]: She's not noticed. 01:07:39.463 --> 01:07:43.447 [SPEAKER_03]: and about five days, it pretty well straight now. 01:07:43.587 --> 01:07:44.208 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello. 01:07:44.928 --> 01:07:47.491 [SPEAKER_03]: And in about two weeks, she was out of glasses. 01:07:47.951 --> 01:07:48.512 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 01:07:49.713 --> 01:07:50.514 [SPEAKER_00]: That's beautiful. 01:07:50.854 --> 01:07:52.115 [SPEAKER_00]: It's beautiful. 01:07:52.656 --> 01:07:55.158 [SPEAKER_03]: The kids didn't tease her anymore, or forget her. 01:07:55.298 --> 01:07:58.621 [SPEAKER_03]: Gaugulaid or the thick glasses are goofy. 01:08:02.939 --> 01:08:06.582 [SPEAKER_03]: And I've repeated that story to Teresa, because she could easily forget it. 01:08:06.922 --> 01:08:07.262 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:08:07.342 --> 01:08:11.565 [SPEAKER_03]: She now leaves inside for a living and then love working for her. 01:08:11.745 --> 01:08:12.366 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure. 01:08:12.966 --> 01:08:16.068 [SPEAKER_03]: One of her great qualities is compassion. 01:08:16.468 --> 01:08:17.049 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm. 01:08:17.129 --> 01:08:17.489 [SPEAKER_03]: I bet. 01:08:18.070 --> 01:08:18.450 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 01:08:20.571 --> 01:08:20.891 [SPEAKER_03]: I bet. 01:08:20.992 --> 01:08:21.732 [SPEAKER_03]: Understanding. 01:08:22.232 --> 01:08:22.553 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 01:08:22.773 --> 01:08:23.693 [SPEAKER_03]: She was divorced. 01:08:24.174 --> 01:08:24.534 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 01:08:26.135 --> 01:08:38.322 [SPEAKER_03]: And one of the mentors, her son, the other daughter of the Boston Terrible Husband, and a mentor him. 01:08:39.623 --> 01:08:47.508 [SPEAKER_03]: So they can know how important they are, because neither father told them they were important. 01:08:49.130 --> 01:08:50.452 [SPEAKER_03]: till they almost believed it. 01:08:51.773 --> 01:08:54.997 [SPEAKER_03]: Now they believe they have a purpose. 01:08:55.518 --> 01:08:55.858 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:08:56.359 --> 01:08:57.340 [SPEAKER_03]: That good. 01:08:57.400 --> 01:08:59.863 [SPEAKER_00]: Power of a maternal grandfather, right? 01:08:59.903 --> 01:09:00.644 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 01:09:00.704 --> 01:09:06.131 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you're on maternal grandfather, did the same, and now you're reading that seat. 01:09:06.191 --> 01:09:06.531 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:09:06.611 --> 01:09:07.933 [SPEAKER_01]: You're in that seat, brilliant. 01:09:09.195 --> 01:09:09.976 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious. 01:09:10.537 --> 01:09:13.062 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I've got a thousand questions I can ask you. 01:09:13.082 --> 01:09:22.079 [SPEAKER_01]: We won't do that, but like part of what being a pastor means is that 01:09:23.480 --> 01:09:27.523 [SPEAKER_01]: people come to us in desperate need. 01:09:27.603 --> 01:09:28.784 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 01:09:30.325 --> 01:09:39.253 [SPEAKER_01]: And over time what happens is you're the guy or one of the men that you you help people when they're stuck. 01:09:39.953 --> 01:09:45.119 [SPEAKER_01]: you help people when they're heartbroken, you help them on the worst day of their life. 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:48.663 [SPEAKER_01]: You're there to celebrate on some of the best days of their life. 01:09:48.703 --> 01:09:54.010 [SPEAKER_01]: What a sacred sacred space we get to enter into a question I'm curious about. 01:09:58.835 --> 01:10:08.782 [SPEAKER_01]: is you are in a season of life where you are requiring a bunch of help more than you're the primary giver of. 01:10:09.622 --> 01:10:12.725 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm wondering I would love to hear a little bit about that journey. 01:10:12.745 --> 01:10:13.845 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't happen overnight. 01:10:14.606 --> 01:10:21.671 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't like even as I watched my own father age, who was such a big, strong man. 01:10:23.031 --> 01:10:36.839 [SPEAKER_01]: Navigate that he's not now, can you talk a little bit about the transition from being the guy that gave help all the time to be in the guy that's in need of receiving help? 01:10:36.979 --> 01:10:38.259 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a good model. 01:10:38.740 --> 01:10:41.521 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm not a good model. 01:10:41.641 --> 01:10:43.042 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine I'm going to be. 01:10:43.502 --> 01:11:10.173 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not a good boy, I don't receive well, I'm embarrassed when people make on, I'm kind of dreading this book deal at the church when they want to, I don't mean, I don't appreciate it, it's, it's, yeah, talk about my book and what I've done in my life and it's one reason I didn't want to write a memoir because 01:11:11.690 --> 01:11:21.254 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to write about someone who's great, someone who's, who met something to people and my editor finally got through to me said, well, that's, that's you. 01:11:21.274 --> 01:11:21.754 [SPEAKER_00]: That is you. 01:11:21.794 --> 01:11:22.014 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 01:11:22.214 --> 01:11:22.515 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 01:11:22.935 --> 01:11:23.415 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:11:23.875 --> 01:11:24.575 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember? 01:11:26.156 --> 01:11:26.916 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a mistake. 01:11:27.617 --> 01:11:27.937 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:11:29.060 --> 01:11:38.650 [SPEAKER_03]: That's deep in me, yeah, that's deep, uh, I was an accident, so I was pretty much neglected. 01:11:40.792 --> 01:11:42.293 [SPEAKER_03]: So what's the big deal about me? 01:11:43.775 --> 01:11:44.936 [SPEAKER_03]: I still struggle with that. 01:11:45.597 --> 01:11:48.740 [SPEAKER_03]: I struggle receiving, they'll bring food over and I mean, 01:11:50.017 --> 01:12:17.224 [SPEAKER_03]: incredible meals yeah you know bring flowers or a minute looks almost like a floor shop yeah and and they don't stop yeah and they love Cynthia love it when I see them loving her and then they'll turn it say the nicest things to me you know it's about till talk to her but they want to talk to me and you know that's not good that's a weakness on my part 01:12:18.307 --> 01:12:19.808 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a grace in receiving. 01:12:19.988 --> 01:12:21.029 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's right. 01:12:21.249 --> 01:12:22.130 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, not good at that. 01:12:22.310 --> 01:12:22.530 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:12:23.251 --> 01:12:24.592 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not proud of that either. 01:12:24.612 --> 01:12:25.092 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:12:25.633 --> 01:12:25.953 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:12:26.173 --> 01:12:31.378 [SPEAKER_03]: And my co-sferend rod Kelly talks to me about that rather often. 01:12:31.478 --> 01:12:32.138 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:12:32.218 --> 01:12:34.320 [SPEAKER_03]: But me with his elbow when he gets... 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:36.061 [SPEAKER_03]: If he were sitting, I'd be doing this. 01:12:36.382 --> 01:12:36.802 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. 01:12:36.942 --> 01:12:37.322 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 01:12:37.422 --> 01:12:38.363 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. 01:12:40.645 --> 01:12:45.889 [SPEAKER_03]: I certainly see that I need others. 01:12:46.430 --> 01:12:46.630 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:12:47.384 --> 01:12:50.908 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw it when I had to give up my keys and gave my card to my daughter. 01:12:50.928 --> 01:12:54.832 [SPEAKER_03]: Chris, sent me a saw it when she had to give her a card. 01:12:55.253 --> 01:12:57.295 [SPEAKER_03]: Need to give her a card or other daughter. 01:12:57.696 --> 01:13:00.519 [SPEAKER_03]: They both needed another card, they only had one card. 01:13:01.340 --> 01:13:04.603 [SPEAKER_03]: And they got a busy family and two cards helped. 01:13:05.224 --> 01:13:07.305 [SPEAKER_03]: but we had to stop driving. 01:13:07.585 --> 01:13:08.785 [SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of your last. 01:13:09.065 --> 01:13:09.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:13:10.586 --> 01:13:11.706 [SPEAKER_03]: Touch of freedom. 01:13:11.967 --> 01:13:12.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 01:13:12.927 --> 01:13:13.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 01:13:13.227 --> 01:13:15.568 [SPEAKER_03]: So run down and get a bag of potatoes chips, shop the car. 01:13:15.588 --> 01:13:16.088 [SPEAKER_03]: You go get them. 01:13:16.588 --> 01:13:16.848 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:13:17.148 --> 01:13:21.270 [SPEAKER_03]: Now you've got to call Brian when he is a chance to run by and pick him up. 01:13:21.410 --> 01:13:23.011 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he can add that to the list. 01:13:23.411 --> 01:13:23.631 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:13:26.092 --> 01:13:28.613 [SPEAKER_03]: And other things far more intimate. 01:13:29.173 --> 01:13:29.413 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:13:29.953 --> 01:13:31.414 [SPEAKER_03]: For my wife now. 01:13:31.874 --> 01:13:32.114 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:13:36.980 --> 01:13:55.429 [SPEAKER_03]: They clean her, they help her with her bath, and shower, and they are visiting angels, whom we don't know, it's pretty invasive. 01:13:55.449 --> 01:13:56.670 [SPEAKER_03]: They're there 24-7. 01:13:58.831 --> 01:14:01.252 [SPEAKER_03]: They're able to hear everything we talk about. 01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:17.106 [SPEAKER_03]: Unless we go in the bedroom and close the door and we've done that some, but they're very good, they know when to turn it off and they realize that they have a 01:14:26.367 --> 01:14:29.749 [SPEAKER_03]: You kind of return to childhood in your hygienetical need. 01:14:29.849 --> 01:14:30.189 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:14:30.209 --> 01:14:32.491 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's embarrassing. 01:14:32.891 --> 01:14:33.091 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:14:33.511 --> 01:14:36.433 [SPEAKER_03]: You make misses in the bathroom and you have to ask for help. 01:14:37.754 --> 01:14:38.194 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh. 01:14:39.015 --> 01:14:40.516 [SPEAKER_03]: That's hard for me to do. 01:14:40.596 --> 01:14:41.016 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you. 01:14:41.056 --> 01:14:50.001 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm snucking up my own messes, but one day I won't be able to do that, and they keep telling me, we'll clean everything, I'll say, well, maybe one day, but yeah. 01:14:50.241 --> 01:14:50.702 [SPEAKER_01]: Not today. 01:14:50.762 --> 01:14:51.062 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 01:14:51.242 --> 01:14:53.143 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't even realize. 01:14:53.243 --> 01:14:53.763 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 01:14:54.364 --> 01:14:54.664 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 01:14:55.551 --> 01:15:14.341 [SPEAKER_03]: They're clean her, but there's more, they talk to her, and they read to her, and they show her beautiful flowers, which she's always loved, and one of my daughters came over and oversaw the whole landscape of our yard, and what a gift she gave us. 01:15:25.368 --> 01:15:28.451 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope you'll be better ready for it, more ready for it. 01:15:28.471 --> 01:15:28.591 [SPEAKER_03]: I am. 01:15:28.832 --> 01:15:29.012 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:15:29.752 --> 01:15:31.574 [SPEAKER_03]: Because all my life, I've given. 01:15:32.395 --> 01:15:34.557 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:15:36.940 --> 01:15:39.662 [SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't really enjoy receiving. 01:15:41.885 --> 01:15:46.029 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody enjoys a little gift of birthday or Christmas or something, but... 01:15:46.820 --> 01:16:12.128 [SPEAKER_03]: No birthday gift was ever, but I was growing up from birthday party, brother and sister had them, but I didn't, but before you feel too sorry for me, God's sake and real good care of us, don't feel sorry for us, we're old and we're, we suffer some of the fallout of being in our 90s and 80s. 01:16:16.467 --> 01:16:17.167 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know what? 01:16:18.448 --> 01:16:23.629 [SPEAKER_03]: To this day, nobody has held that against us. 01:16:23.789 --> 01:16:24.530 [SPEAKER_03]: They understand. 01:16:25.030 --> 01:16:25.670 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:16:26.270 --> 01:16:26.470 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:16:26.630 --> 01:16:27.711 [SPEAKER_03]: And they want to keep getting. 01:16:28.111 --> 01:16:28.531 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:16:29.691 --> 01:16:34.153 [SPEAKER_03]: We have friends in Australia, as soon as they got into the state, they looked us up and came to be with us. 01:16:34.193 --> 01:16:34.393 [SPEAKER_03]: Awesome. 01:16:35.620 --> 01:16:37.022 [SPEAKER_03]: What a great visit that was. 01:16:37.042 --> 01:16:37.983 [SPEAKER_03]: It's good. 01:16:38.444 --> 01:16:41.708 [SPEAKER_03]: And they just love us and they told us that over and over again. 01:16:41.728 --> 01:16:42.369 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:16:42.730 --> 01:16:47.476 [SPEAKER_03]: They were there nine years we visited them some in our church, Australia. 01:16:47.496 --> 01:16:48.017 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 01:16:49.362 --> 01:16:54.606 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we should help you more with how to receive a board at that. 01:16:54.766 --> 01:16:59.409 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do it, and I try not to put the person on the spot. 01:16:59.609 --> 01:17:00.050 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:17:00.630 --> 01:17:03.532 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, more blessed to give than to receive. 01:17:03.692 --> 01:17:04.072 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:17:04.112 --> 01:17:04.993 [SPEAKER_03]: They're giving now. 01:17:05.053 --> 01:17:08.315 [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, I don't want to reign on their parade. 01:17:08.335 --> 01:17:09.096 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:17:09.116 --> 01:17:09.857 [SPEAKER_03]: So they're molded. 01:17:10.057 --> 01:17:10.457 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:17:10.557 --> 01:17:12.959 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, to say, no, I don't want to, or the right. 01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:14.640 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, it is, it's not right. 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.102 [SPEAKER_03]: But, well, it's hard sometimes. 01:17:18.993 --> 01:17:21.215 [SPEAKER_03]: Accept and accept and accept and accept and go. 01:17:22.135 --> 01:17:33.563 [SPEAKER_00]: It makes me think of, I mean, that's what's so beautiful about Jesus, or he accepted, where Mary broke the, you know, the alabaster jar and let her do that. 01:17:33.703 --> 01:17:40.227 [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that to him, you know, you said, you said to the disciple, she, she's, she's chosen better than that. 01:17:40.287 --> 01:17:40.887 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 01:17:41.067 --> 01:17:41.568 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. 01:17:42.068 --> 01:17:43.789 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wherever the gospel is told. 01:17:43.809 --> 01:17:45.490 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the story. 01:17:45.610 --> 01:17:47.671 [SPEAKER_00]: So even Jesus would accept that. 01:17:47.691 --> 01:17:48.811 [SPEAKER_03]: He was so balanced. 01:17:48.851 --> 01:17:50.432 [SPEAKER_03]: He could do either one. 01:17:50.532 --> 01:17:53.833 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he could wash feet or he could receive. 01:17:54.053 --> 01:17:56.635 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's so good. 01:17:56.675 --> 01:17:57.855 [SPEAKER_03]: He got up without a word. 01:17:57.895 --> 01:18:01.317 [SPEAKER_03]: He did not say, I'm now going to demonstrate humility. 01:18:01.397 --> 01:18:04.238 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, first you put on a towel. 01:18:05.118 --> 01:18:08.200 [SPEAKER_03]: Then you take a basin of water and you take dirty feet. 01:18:09.330 --> 01:18:11.371 [SPEAKER_03]: He did, he just never set a word. 01:18:11.671 --> 01:18:12.031 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:18:12.332 --> 01:18:20.776 [SPEAKER_03]: Peter goes, you, and then he says, you, my feet are going to wash my feet. 01:18:21.156 --> 01:18:21.616 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 01:18:21.656 --> 01:18:22.717 [SPEAKER_03]: He must have pulled him up. 01:18:23.077 --> 01:18:23.717 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 01:18:24.038 --> 01:18:25.478 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't let me wash your feet. 01:18:25.498 --> 01:18:26.779 [SPEAKER_03]: You have no part with me. 01:18:26.819 --> 01:18:27.219 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:18:27.379 --> 01:18:27.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:29.560 [SPEAKER_00]: Give me a bat. 01:18:29.861 --> 01:18:30.121 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:18:31.121 --> 01:18:31.721 [SPEAKER_03]: He's so cute. 01:18:31.782 --> 01:18:32.462 [SPEAKER_03]: He's so cute. 01:18:32.522 --> 01:18:33.662 [SPEAKER_03]: He's always made. 01:18:33.803 --> 01:18:34.303 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. 01:18:34.323 --> 01:18:35.083 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need a bat. 01:18:35.423 --> 01:18:36.044 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 01:18:36.064 --> 01:18:36.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Clean feet. 01:18:36.704 --> 01:18:37.004 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:18:39.627 --> 01:18:40.407 [SPEAKER_00]: He's so violent. 01:18:40.427 --> 01:18:40.807 [SPEAKER_03]: He's so violent. 01:18:41.248 --> 01:18:41.468 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:18:41.588 --> 01:18:42.748 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's something to it. 01:18:43.769 --> 01:18:45.249 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we've done enough of it. 01:18:45.709 --> 01:18:46.049 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:18:46.570 --> 01:18:48.530 [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's in a lot of the peers in a wedding. 01:18:48.870 --> 01:18:49.090 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:18:49.451 --> 01:18:50.851 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 01:18:50.891 --> 01:18:52.452 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what the bride and groom want. 01:18:52.772 --> 01:18:53.332 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:18:53.452 --> 01:18:54.212 [SPEAKER_03]: It's beautiful. 01:18:55.013 --> 01:18:55.353 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:18:55.373 --> 01:18:55.773 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 01:18:56.033 --> 01:18:56.933 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 01:18:57.554 --> 01:18:58.074 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:18:58.834 --> 01:18:59.374 [SPEAKER_01]: It's beautiful. 01:18:59.494 --> 01:19:00.154 [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay. 01:19:00.235 --> 01:19:01.455 [SPEAKER_03]: I just think it's wonderful. 01:19:02.883 --> 01:19:03.303 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. 01:19:03.403 --> 01:19:03.783 [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. 01:19:04.764 --> 01:19:09.246 [SPEAKER_01]: You have been so generous with your time today. 01:19:09.266 --> 01:19:09.886 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:19:10.066 --> 01:19:11.427 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, strength to it. 01:19:12.007 --> 01:19:25.753 [SPEAKER_01]: And I, I would say, um, yeah, if give honor to whom honor is due, um, then receive from me honor, um, try real hard. 01:19:25.853 --> 01:19:26.133 [SPEAKER_03]: I know. 01:19:26.173 --> 01:19:26.514 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:19:26.634 --> 01:19:26.914 [SPEAKER_03]: I know. 01:19:27.074 --> 01:19:29.435 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, listen, I, I totally understand it. 01:19:29.675 --> 01:19:30.556 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm listening. 01:19:31.076 --> 01:19:32.418 [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe you. 01:19:32.598 --> 01:19:44.630 [SPEAKER_01]: I could not, I don't think I could overstate the significance of Chuck Swendall's ministry and Jesus and Chuck Swendall on the trajectory and direction of my life. 01:19:45.811 --> 01:19:49.872 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I have been, like, I went to bed thinking about this last nine. 01:19:49.912 --> 01:19:54.033 [SPEAKER_01]: I was bragging to some friends yesterday that I get to hang out with Chuck's one all today. 01:19:54.433 --> 01:20:09.577 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you blessed me with, like, reminding me of Ray Steadman and some of those tightens that were key components in your own story and and Ray to a lesser degree than you, simple because you were on the radio. 01:20:10.417 --> 01:20:12.577 [SPEAKER_01]: And Ray might have been, but I never heard Ray on the radio. 01:20:12.777 --> 01:20:13.718 [SPEAKER_01]: I was pre-Christ. 01:20:14.038 --> 01:20:14.338 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes. 01:20:16.358 --> 01:20:19.839 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he did not know if I would have attempted that at one time. 01:20:21.219 --> 01:20:22.840 [SPEAKER_03]: Listen to this list. 01:20:24.020 --> 01:20:25.500 [SPEAKER_03]: Why was it not a seminary? 01:20:25.581 --> 01:20:29.121 [SPEAKER_03]: We had guest Bible expositors that would come. 01:20:31.022 --> 01:20:38.044 [SPEAKER_03]: John Mitchell, a multnomah, coming right down the California coastline. 01:20:40.064 --> 01:20:41.024 [SPEAKER_03]: He would come and teach John, 01:20:46.940 --> 01:20:57.091 [SPEAKER_03]: The president of Talbot Seminary, a Jew, he founded the school as I'll recall or was asked to be the first president. 01:20:59.729 --> 01:21:18.897 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, uh, he would teach, uh, Exodus, um, and wow, uh, beautiful work on that, uh, and then we had, uh, uh, Charles Washburn from the East Coast, and, uh, Richard Sume, whom you may have never heard of. 01:21:19.137 --> 01:21:22.239 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, set in the glow over. 01:21:23.459 --> 01:21:24.360 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, man. 01:21:27.207 --> 01:21:30.569 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and he would teach several books when he would come. 01:21:31.689 --> 01:21:32.969 [SPEAKER_03]: Plus the teacher's there. 01:21:36.011 --> 01:21:39.932 [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone modeled grace, I love that. 01:21:40.893 --> 01:21:42.253 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I had never seen before. 01:21:42.513 --> 01:21:42.713 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:21:43.614 --> 01:21:49.916 [SPEAKER_03]: They never treated me like a student on probation. 01:21:51.617 --> 01:21:52.257 [SPEAKER_03]: Never once. 01:21:53.798 --> 01:21:54.418 [SPEAKER_03]: Never once. 01:21:56.193 --> 01:21:57.973 [SPEAKER_03]: answer every question when I would ask. 01:22:00.114 --> 01:22:13.197 [SPEAKER_03]: And never put me down because I wasn't in the class of those other right guys in the room that had been from these prestigious colleges. 01:22:15.338 --> 01:22:17.939 [SPEAKER_03]: Here I was taking a seat in that classroom. 01:22:25.512 --> 01:22:29.916 [SPEAKER_03]: for four years straight. 01:22:30.337 --> 01:22:32.038 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it changes your life, Matt. 01:22:32.459 --> 01:22:32.699 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:22:32.719 --> 01:22:33.840 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:22:33.900 --> 01:22:35.001 [SPEAKER_03]: It changes your life. 01:22:35.061 --> 01:22:35.662 [SPEAKER_01]: It's beautiful. 01:22:36.222 --> 01:22:38.684 [SPEAKER_01]: Along with that, on the internship with Ray Steadford. 01:22:39.185 --> 01:22:41.227 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not an animal. 01:22:41.307 --> 01:22:41.567 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 01:22:42.328 --> 01:22:44.290 [SPEAKER_01]: And I said this in the last pocket. 01:22:44.790 --> 01:22:47.112 [SPEAKER_01]: Like most people watch that's going to have no idea. 01:22:47.592 --> 01:22:47.852 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:22:48.292 --> 01:22:51.174 [SPEAKER_01]: How expositional for real, yeah. 01:22:51.254 --> 01:22:51.494 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:22:52.035 --> 01:22:55.437 [SPEAKER_03]: Troy, Stephen was a talent, but Troy's fiber. 01:22:55.677 --> 01:22:56.298 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:22:56.418 --> 01:22:58.659 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, let me tell you a funny story on an exposition. 01:22:59.179 --> 01:23:01.321 [SPEAKER_03]: How Henry stole our class, he's a wife. 01:23:01.921 --> 01:23:05.824 [SPEAKER_03]: I just got back from the country church where I preached on the weekend week. 01:23:06.788 --> 01:23:16.515 [SPEAKER_03]: really said, yeah, he said they had done it become done Campbell and he graduated together and were close friends all the time they were at the school. 01:23:17.556 --> 01:23:26.302 [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, I was there and the country preacher got up and he said, folks, they're all they were kinds of preachers. 01:23:28.084 --> 01:23:35.449 [SPEAKER_03]: There are topical preachers and there are, there are devotional preachers and there are 01:23:36.967 --> 01:23:51.621 [SPEAKER_03]: by graphical preachers, and there are suppository preachers, he said, we have today, Dr. Hendrix, who is the professor of the suppository preaching department. 01:23:52.161 --> 01:23:52.902 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I can't. 01:23:52.922 --> 01:23:55.805 [SPEAKER_03]: So I said, Hendrix, he got the wrong one, amen, amen. 01:23:55.845 --> 01:23:57.486 [SPEAKER_03]: He got up, and I said, what'd you do, he said? 01:23:57.867 --> 01:23:59.308 [SPEAKER_03]: I just supposited the word. 01:24:01.710 --> 01:24:20.439 [SPEAKER_03]: One of his great stuff, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I 01:24:20.919 --> 01:24:22.360 [SPEAKER_03]: We lose words, we don't use. 01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:23.161 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:23.561 --> 01:24:23.841 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. 01:24:23.861 --> 01:24:24.022 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. 01:24:24.082 --> 01:24:24.382 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. 01:24:24.402 --> 01:24:24.602 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. 01:24:24.622 --> 01:24:24.842 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:24.862 --> 01:24:25.082 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:25.102 --> 01:24:25.503 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:25.563 --> 01:24:25.903 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:25.943 --> 01:24:26.363 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:26.484 --> 01:24:26.784 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:26.864 --> 01:24:27.224 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:27.284 --> 01:24:27.684 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:28.225 --> 01:24:28.545 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:28.565 --> 01:24:28.865 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:28.885 --> 01:24:29.526 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:29.546 --> 01:24:29.966 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:29.986 --> 01:24:30.186 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:30.267 --> 01:24:30.567 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:30.587 --> 01:24:30.987 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:31.007 --> 01:24:31.267 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:31.287 --> 01:24:31.447 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. 01:24:41.577 --> 01:24:42.278 [SPEAKER_03]: Stay with it. 01:24:42.699 --> 01:24:43.359 [SPEAKER_03]: Stay there. 01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:44.781 [SPEAKER_01]: Tethered to the text. 01:24:44.821 --> 01:24:45.202 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:24:45.502 --> 01:24:46.303 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you taught me. 01:24:46.423 --> 01:24:47.104 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 01:24:47.344 --> 01:24:48.366 [SPEAKER_03]: Stay in it. 01:24:48.426 --> 01:24:49.127 [SPEAKER_03]: They want it. 01:24:49.447 --> 01:24:49.627 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:24:49.647 --> 01:24:52.311 [SPEAKER_03]: People will love it when you do that. 01:24:52.371 --> 01:24:52.711 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:24:52.731 --> 01:24:53.092 [SPEAKER_01]: They're sent. 01:24:53.112 --> 01:24:53.432 [SPEAKER_01]: They will. 01:24:53.672 --> 01:24:54.133 [SPEAKER_01]: And half. 01:24:54.393 --> 01:24:55.555 [SPEAKER_01]: Life for millennia. 01:24:56.816 --> 01:24:58.338 [SPEAKER_01]: So praise God for you. 01:24:58.498 --> 01:24:59.179 [SPEAKER_01]: Chuck's one doll. 01:24:59.239 --> 01:24:59.660 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:01.721 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Matt, I'm grateful for you. 01:25:01.741 --> 01:25:04.341 [SPEAKER_01]: And for you, thanks for your sweet learning. 01:25:04.361 --> 01:25:05.241 [SPEAKER_01]: The better half. 01:25:05.722 --> 01:25:08.422 [SPEAKER_01]: The better half for your sweet role in all of us. 01:25:08.502 --> 01:25:09.103 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 01:25:09.423 --> 01:25:10.263 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 01:25:10.763 --> 01:25:10.903 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:25:10.943 --> 01:25:12.303 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a blessing. 01:25:12.323 --> 01:25:14.044 [SPEAKER_03]: Let us see a few things to you. 01:25:14.224 --> 01:25:14.824 [SPEAKER_00]: I would love that. 01:25:14.864 --> 01:25:15.324 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 01:25:16.344 --> 01:25:17.925 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for keeping his secrets. 01:25:19.965 --> 01:25:25.687 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe every wedding is like stepping into a bank vault. 01:25:26.980 --> 01:25:31.124 [SPEAKER_03]: But you close yourself up on the inside and only you have the combination. 01:25:33.266 --> 01:25:35.288 [SPEAKER_03]: So it gets open only when you open it. 01:25:35.648 --> 01:25:40.232 [SPEAKER_03]: But in that vault, you share secrets with one another. 01:25:40.252 --> 01:25:40.593 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:25:42.675 --> 01:25:48.740 [SPEAKER_03]: There are things I've shared with Cynthia that I would never share with either of you, or or anyone for sure. 01:25:49.721 --> 01:25:50.362 [SPEAKER_03]: They are just 01:25:52.719 --> 01:26:07.557 [SPEAKER_03]: Secrets of my life, summer embarrassments, summer of its shameful, summer disappointments, summer on is to the core, 01:26:09.500 --> 01:26:10.280 [SPEAKER_03]: She's hurt of all. 01:26:10.821 --> 01:26:11.641 [SPEAKER_03]: And I've hurt her. 01:26:12.001 --> 01:26:12.521 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:26:13.122 --> 01:26:13.362 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:26:14.202 --> 01:26:19.364 [SPEAKER_03]: What keeps the marriage intimate is not just the romance and I believe in that with all my heart. 01:26:19.965 --> 01:26:23.826 [SPEAKER_03]: But also, the keeping of the secrets. 01:26:25.547 --> 01:26:26.088 [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay. 01:26:27.148 --> 01:26:30.990 [SPEAKER_03]: The secrets between you two is for bond you together. 01:26:31.610 --> 01:26:31.810 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 01:26:33.191 --> 01:26:36.492 [SPEAKER_03]: And it gives you that feeling of closeness 01:26:39.950 --> 01:26:43.754 [SPEAKER_03]: that no other woman has, is that great? 01:26:44.074 --> 01:26:45.135 [SPEAKER_03]: It is. 01:26:45.175 --> 01:26:45.595 [SPEAKER_03]: It is. 01:26:45.715 --> 01:26:49.799 [SPEAKER_03]: So when you're with him, you shared the vault with him. 01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:50.660 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. 01:26:52.602 --> 01:26:54.423 [SPEAKER_03]: Only you two have that combination. 01:26:55.164 --> 01:26:56.645 [SPEAKER_03]: Is your own combination. 01:26:59.368 --> 01:27:00.549 [SPEAKER_03]: Keep those secrets. 01:27:01.990 --> 01:27:02.731 [SPEAKER_03]: Hold them dear. 01:27:05.303 --> 01:27:07.587 [SPEAKER_03]: Some of them are moments of vulnerability. 01:27:07.648 --> 01:27:08.609 [SPEAKER_03]: He'll share with you. 01:27:10.954 --> 01:27:12.397 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't share them with anybody else. 01:27:12.938 --> 01:27:14.521 [SPEAKER_03]: If he was him to know, he'll tell him. 01:27:14.761 --> 01:27:15.042 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 01:27:16.284 --> 01:27:17.526 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not your calling. 01:27:18.665 --> 01:27:27.231 [SPEAKER_03]: to be vulnerable on his behalf, that him be vulnerable on his behalf, you be vulnerable on your behalf. 01:27:27.311 --> 01:27:27.571 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:27:28.332 --> 01:27:28.792 [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay. 01:27:29.152 --> 01:27:35.256 [SPEAKER_03]: My role today is not to unveil sentious vulnerability, but my own. 01:27:38.138 --> 01:27:46.043 [SPEAKER_03]: Her vulnerability, I know fully, makes me love her more that she's gone a few of those. 01:27:48.948 --> 01:27:56.877 [SPEAKER_03]: And finally, y'all, the greatest gift you give to your children is your love for one another. 01:27:56.897 --> 01:28:00.721 [SPEAKER_03]: And though that's not new, but that's true. 01:28:02.903 --> 01:28:10.952 [SPEAKER_03]: When your sons see you or sons see you, love your wife as Christ loved the church. 01:28:15.612 --> 01:28:17.252 [SPEAKER_03]: his darkest moment. 01:28:17.953 --> 01:28:18.873 [SPEAKER_03]: He'll remember that. 01:28:19.093 --> 01:28:19.313 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:28:20.673 --> 01:28:24.314 [SPEAKER_03]: He'll learn how to treat his wife by watching you. 01:28:24.694 --> 01:28:26.175 [SPEAKER_03]: How I learned to treat my wife. 01:28:27.575 --> 01:28:34.697 [SPEAKER_03]: My father literally a gourd mother with all her weaknesses 01:28:44.953 --> 01:28:50.695 [SPEAKER_03]: As your daughters see you, loving your husband, they'll learn to do that with theirs. 01:28:52.836 --> 01:28:53.456 [SPEAKER_03]: Let it go. 01:28:53.576 --> 01:28:54.176 [SPEAKER_03]: Let it be. 01:28:55.017 --> 01:28:55.717 [SPEAKER_03]: Talk about it. 01:28:56.897 --> 01:28:58.178 [SPEAKER_03]: That is something you share. 01:28:59.939 --> 01:29:02.159 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell your kids what you'd feel about each other. 01:29:02.179 --> 01:29:03.980 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. 01:29:04.663 --> 01:29:09.046 [SPEAKER_03]: It's so healthy and they'll, they'll love you for it. 01:29:09.346 --> 01:29:09.607 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:29:09.727 --> 01:29:10.167 [SPEAKER_03]: I love that. 01:29:10.187 --> 01:29:10.547 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good. 01:29:11.468 --> 01:29:12.369 [SPEAKER_01]: What's your pre-force? 01:29:12.649 --> 01:29:13.189 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 01:29:13.209 --> 01:29:13.589 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that. 01:29:14.230 --> 01:29:19.554 [SPEAKER_01]: Father, thank you for today, just the grace that brought it about. 01:29:19.654 --> 01:29:26.539 [SPEAKER_01]: I continue to pray a blessing over this man, over his bride, over the moments that you've given to them. 01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:38.307 [SPEAKER_01]: continue to pray into his strength, Father, as he seeks to ring out anything left that you have for the glory of your name and his joy. 01:29:39.027 --> 01:29:42.670 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for how you've marked me so significantly in the faithfulness of this man. 01:29:43.950 --> 01:30:02.480 [SPEAKER_01]: And even in this short conversation, the push to keep loving you, keep loving your word, keep loving this woman and serving Father, what a poignant reminder for someone. 01:30:03.080 --> 01:30:04.221 [SPEAKER_01]: Forty years ahead of me. 01:30:04.601 --> 01:30:06.362 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one thing to hear it from peers. 01:30:06.442 --> 01:30:13.846 [SPEAKER_01]: It's another thing to hear it from somebody who is still In a different season, but to hear it from Chuck today. 01:30:13.886 --> 01:30:15.207 [SPEAKER_01]: What what what grace? 01:30:15.827 --> 01:30:19.970 [SPEAKER_01]: Then I pray for men or women who are watching this right now are listening to it on a treadmill 01:30:20.410 --> 01:30:33.137 [SPEAKER_01]: or in a car, or in their office, or in the dark night of the soul, would you use our words, our laughter, our playfulness to minister to their hearts in deep and significant ways. 01:30:33.898 --> 01:30:40.062 [SPEAKER_01]: And so thank you for insight for living and really it's reach globally with the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 01:30:40.202 --> 01:30:40.702 [SPEAKER_01]: Namely, 01:30:41.262 --> 01:30:46.547 [SPEAKER_01]: The grace of God made available to sinful men through the person and work of Jesus Christ. 01:30:46.587 --> 01:30:51.171 [SPEAKER_01]: We praise you and exalt you, and thank you, and marvel. 01:30:51.592 --> 01:30:55.415 [SPEAKER_01]: Find in my heart today that, that just phrase of David, who? 01:30:56.797 --> 01:30:58.938 [SPEAKER_01]: Who are we that your mind full of us? 01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:01.660 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet you are. 01:31:02.501 --> 01:31:05.003 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we love you and bless your name, Jesus. 01:31:05.503 --> 01:31:07.284 [SPEAKER_01]: It's for your beautiful name, amen. 01:31:07.464 --> 01:31:08.065 [SPEAKER_03]: Amen. 01:31:08.425 --> 01:31:09.226 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much, God. 01:31:09.246 --> 01:31:09.666 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. 01:31:10.006 --> 01:31:13.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys for tuning in between Sundays with the Chandlers.