WEBVTT 00:00.071 --> 00:22.328 [SPEAKER_00]: husband wife are you ready do you know I forgot what I'm supposed to say wait no hold on I got this do you know what we're doing do you yes I was not before we've talked about what we're doing it the last time wait wait I was I was so busy giving you the middle finger 00:27.898 --> 00:36.409 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is an opening to a podcast on in the world that exists and so that being said last time 00:37.463 --> 00:40.206 [SPEAKER_01]: You were the last time we did Mark chapter 9. 00:40.246 --> 00:41.768 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, I fucked it. 00:41.788 --> 00:42.789 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, I fucked it. 00:42.809 --> 00:43.710 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 00:43.870 --> 00:44.330 [SPEAKER_00]: You're back. 00:44.430 --> 00:44.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 00:44.851 --> 00:45.411 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 00:46.052 --> 00:53.800 [SPEAKER_01]: In that episode, Jesus was like, he went up on a mountain with his dudes, like small group of dudes. 00:54.401 --> 01:00.327 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there was, then there was like the superhero awakening moment where God and Moses and Elijah. 01:00.467 --> 01:02.568 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the tea party with this boy. 01:02.588 --> 01:04.528 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like everybody came down the mountain. 01:04.809 --> 01:06.029 [SPEAKER_01]: They were running around it, maybe. 01:06.229 --> 01:07.289 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not sure. 01:07.910 --> 01:09.170 [SPEAKER_01]: But it was craziness. 01:09.490 --> 01:11.691 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there was the trans figure, whatever. 01:11.851 --> 01:13.652 [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking transfiguration thing that happened. 01:14.112 --> 01:15.372 [SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, all that shit. 01:15.492 --> 01:17.873 [SPEAKER_01]: And God was like, my boy. 01:18.113 --> 01:20.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, no one, not a lot of people saw it. 01:20.374 --> 01:21.534 [SPEAKER_01]: So obviously it's true. 01:21.554 --> 01:22.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 01:22.435 --> 01:23.695 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how the Bible works. 01:24.175 --> 01:25.136 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:25.316 --> 01:28.977 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Jesus cured a kid with epilepsy apparently. 01:29.477 --> 01:31.081 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, maybe he did. 01:31.622 --> 01:36.593 [SPEAKER_01]: But they said it was a demon, but we never heard the follow-up either, so I don't know about that. 01:36.773 --> 01:38.176 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say him, he did. 01:38.627 --> 01:44.371 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Jesus said something about like, you know, it's better to chop off your hands than to commit sin and stuff. 01:44.791 --> 01:45.412 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know. 01:45.852 --> 01:49.435 [SPEAKER_01]: And because the chop off is like, or whatever this cause in the sand. 01:49.455 --> 01:53.397 [SPEAKER_00]: Your body part is the one that is responsible, not your brain. 01:53.477 --> 01:55.499 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Bible says self-mutilation is good. 01:55.699 --> 01:55.919 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:56.099 --> 01:56.559 [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently. 01:56.900 --> 02:00.542 [SPEAKER_00]: And when when you're lusting for something, it's the body parts. 02:02.151 --> 02:08.595 [SPEAKER_01]: And he should just chop it off and we had just be clear as the podcast sacralist discourse. 02:08.615 --> 02:15.619 [SPEAKER_00]: We do not recommend this as a form of treatment for sin listen if you are rapy Yeah, well, okay. 02:15.659 --> 02:19.062 [SPEAKER_01]: There are extend your way to circumcise our petal chop it off. 02:19.222 --> 02:21.063 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure You know go ahead. 02:21.123 --> 02:26.946 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm on for it Jesus wants you to get rid of the problem part of your body 02:28.347 --> 02:29.589 [SPEAKER_00]: I, I'm with you on this. 02:29.929 --> 02:30.249 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 02:30.309 --> 02:30.569 [SPEAKER_01]: So. 02:31.430 --> 02:33.332 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was lots of stuff about salt. 02:33.652 --> 02:35.534 [SPEAKER_01]: That was, that was Mark chapter nine. 02:35.774 --> 02:36.315 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 02:36.395 --> 02:36.595 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 02:36.695 --> 02:37.055 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 02:37.135 --> 02:38.537 [SPEAKER_01]: Which means that today we're doing. 02:39.077 --> 02:42.340 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Marky Mark and his funky bunch chapter 10. 02:42.560 --> 02:43.021 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 02:43.041 --> 02:43.501 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this. 02:43.701 --> 02:43.921 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 02:43.941 --> 02:44.382 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't keep. 02:51.203 --> 03:08.415 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are getting into Morgan Mark chapter 10, which I can already tell you I'm going to hate because listen why okay, I'm listening so you know how there are headlines at the top Yeah, I'm not supposed to read them because they're not actually part of the chapter, but I can help it sometimes my eyes catch on them. 03:08.475 --> 03:11.718 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this one says Jesus is teaching on divorce 03:13.256 --> 03:17.318 [SPEAKER_00]: as a divorced woman, a multiple divorced woman. 03:18.438 --> 03:20.860 [SPEAKER_00]: I have feelings on the issue. 03:20.980 --> 03:21.220 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 03:21.720 --> 03:25.522 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have a feeling that Jesus is going to disagree with me. 03:25.662 --> 03:26.203 [SPEAKER_01]: You think so? 03:26.763 --> 03:27.564 [SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong. 03:28.044 --> 03:30.305 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think we covered this in Matthew. 03:30.525 --> 03:31.386 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure we did. 03:31.686 --> 03:35.328 [SPEAKER_00]: So I hope that Jesus is on my side. 03:35.408 --> 03:38.149 [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like Jesus is... Well, you're a woman, so I don't think he is. 03:38.430 --> 03:38.670 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 03:39.331 --> 03:45.314 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm just saying, you know, Jesus, well, the Bible in general, generally is an on women's side. 03:45.614 --> 03:46.275 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's true. 03:46.455 --> 03:46.935 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. 03:47.175 --> 03:47.815 [SPEAKER_01]: For the most part. 03:48.216 --> 03:49.596 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's see how this goes. 03:49.696 --> 03:49.956 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 03:50.137 --> 03:50.237 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 03:50.257 --> 03:50.757 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 03:52.278 --> 03:56.940 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus didn't let that place, that place where the transfiguration had happened. 03:57.300 --> 04:01.242 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he had moved on beyond that, or if there was somewhere else you left. 04:01.482 --> 04:04.564 [SPEAKER_00]: Where the salt was, it was salted the end of the chapter. 04:08.812 --> 04:09.052 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 04:09.312 --> 04:15.676 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Jesus let that salty place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. 04:16.216 --> 04:18.057 [SPEAKER_00]: He always be crossing the Jordan. 04:18.178 --> 04:18.498 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 04:18.638 --> 04:20.459 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's zigzagged across it. 04:20.860 --> 04:28.902 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I feel like if we had a map, it would, like following his action, it would just be back in for them back in, but we talked about this in a Q&A. 04:28.962 --> 04:33.603 [SPEAKER_01]: His travels were pretty ridiculously far-fetched as far as how much he traveled. 04:33.963 --> 04:37.164 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was always just to an impression. 04:37.344 --> 04:37.544 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 04:38.184 --> 04:49.907 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, crowds of people came to him and as was his custom, he taught them some Pharisees came attested him by asking, is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife? 04:51.110 --> 05:07.606 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but again, we talk about this a lot, the questioning of what you believe, the books to mean, the teach to believe, those were important, like they talked about this stuff all the time. 05:07.646 --> 05:09.027 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the thing that they did. 05:09.308 --> 05:10.449 [SPEAKER_00]: How should we interpret this? 05:10.509 --> 05:10.889 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 05:11.982 --> 05:17.523 [SPEAKER_00]: put this into practice in our daily life, so that it's not abnormal that they're asking the question. 05:17.583 --> 05:17.883 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 05:18.123 --> 05:23.604 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, Jesus probably heard, ugh, it's not supposed to be a man, it's supposed to be. 05:23.644 --> 05:25.845 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's how he took most of the questions from them. 05:25.865 --> 05:30.846 [SPEAKER_00]: But actually, they were just like, hey, yo, so you're a teacher. 05:31.286 --> 05:32.546 [SPEAKER_00]: We've been talking about this. 05:32.886 --> 05:33.586 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think? 05:33.926 --> 05:36.187 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it lawful for a man to divorce this way? 05:36.387 --> 05:37.587 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's probably more the tone. 05:38.336 --> 05:47.063 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, I mean, maybe it might have been with some star or some like, you know, whatever, but still it's still questioning and like, whatever, it's not abnormal at the very least. 05:47.403 --> 05:47.584 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 05:48.444 --> 05:52.467 [SPEAKER_00]: So Jesus replied, what did Moses command you? 05:53.008 --> 05:54.789 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he never just answers the question. 05:54.869 --> 05:55.029 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 05:55.049 --> 05:55.790 [SPEAKER_01]: It's always a riddle. 05:56.050 --> 05:56.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 05:57.291 --> 06:02.816 [SPEAKER_00]: They said Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away. 06:04.673 --> 06:10.337 [SPEAKER_00]: It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law. 06:10.917 --> 06:11.998 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus replied. 06:12.018 --> 06:15.080 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it was just so it wasn't God. 06:15.280 --> 06:15.620 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 06:15.640 --> 06:20.243 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you telling me that what Moses declared as a law of God? 06:20.263 --> 06:23.765 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a rule of God was not God. 06:23.865 --> 06:25.106 [SPEAKER_01]: It was Moses. 06:25.226 --> 06:25.626 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a man. 06:25.707 --> 06:26.287 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a man. 06:26.587 --> 06:27.247 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a man. 06:27.287 --> 06:27.528 [SPEAKER_00]: Me. 06:27.568 --> 06:28.028 [SPEAKER_00]: Law that. 06:28.128 --> 06:28.288 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 06:28.308 --> 06:36.793 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what I'm hearing because I saw that everything written in the Bible wasn't inspired by God and what you're saying is Moses really fucked that one up. 06:38.294 --> 06:38.595 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 06:38.635 --> 06:45.619 [SPEAKER_00]: So Jesus continues, but at the beginning of creation, God quote, made them male and female. 06:46.599 --> 06:47.060 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did he? 06:47.600 --> 06:47.900 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 06:48.100 --> 06:50.362 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if God met science anywhere. 06:50.842 --> 06:51.042 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 06:51.482 --> 06:52.083 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he did. 06:52.283 --> 06:53.744 [SPEAKER_01]: He said he made man from dirt. 06:54.045 --> 07:03.728 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm just seeing like we understand now that gender is a spectrum, it's not like there's only two the end. 07:04.128 --> 07:04.428 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 07:04.908 --> 07:11.870 [SPEAKER_00]: And so when you say male and female, you're being very not inclusive and that is not cool. 07:12.330 --> 07:12.530 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 07:13.603 --> 07:21.207 [SPEAKER_00]: For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh. 07:21.987 --> 07:22.968 [SPEAKER_00]: They will be fucking. 07:23.388 --> 07:24.028 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what that means. 07:24.809 --> 07:35.494 [SPEAKER_00]: When they say one flesh, what that means is that he is walking around with his dick hard and a wife sitting on top of him and writing him all the time. 07:35.534 --> 07:36.195 [SPEAKER_00]: They're one flesh. 07:36.235 --> 07:40.297 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, he's walking around with his wife sitting on him while he's hard? 07:40.417 --> 07:40.697 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:40.957 --> 07:42.737 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm having trouble amazement as well. 07:42.757 --> 07:43.518 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 07:43.538 --> 07:46.098 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing his business with his Dick Insider. 07:46.438 --> 07:47.358 [SPEAKER_00]: They're one flesh. 07:47.378 --> 07:48.379 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 07:48.499 --> 07:49.199 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what that means. 07:49.219 --> 07:52.099 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry when he said Dick Insider, we're writing that Bob and Tom. 07:52.119 --> 07:52.339 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:52.399 --> 07:53.220 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it Dick Insider? 07:53.280 --> 07:55.160 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm a Dick Insider. 07:55.420 --> 07:57.120 [SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever had some Dick Insider? 07:58.441 --> 08:01.881 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, why don't you have a glass of Dick Insider? 08:03.302 --> 08:05.162 [SPEAKER_00]: That Bob and Tom bear was so funny. 08:05.222 --> 08:05.422 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 08:06.182 --> 08:06.522 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 08:06.923 --> 08:08.763 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we've talked about that before actually. 08:09.672 --> 08:09.972 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 08:10.072 --> 08:11.593 [SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, they will fuck. 08:11.973 --> 08:15.235 [SPEAKER_00]: So they are no longer two but one flesh. 08:15.576 --> 08:15.836 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 08:16.236 --> 08:19.358 [SPEAKER_00]: See, when you talking about flesh, it can only mean one thing sex. 08:19.638 --> 08:19.938 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 08:20.018 --> 08:20.438 [SPEAKER_01]: I got it. 08:20.558 --> 08:20.759 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 08:20.979 --> 08:21.179 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 08:21.319 --> 08:24.661 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate. 08:24.841 --> 08:28.443 [SPEAKER_00]: See, I'm doomed to hell because I'm trace the voice and whatever. 08:28.663 --> 08:30.985 [SPEAKER_01]: So except Moses said it was okay. 08:31.705 --> 08:31.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Still. 08:32.325 --> 08:36.508 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know Moses said nobody should separate. 08:37.347 --> 08:40.688 [SPEAKER_00]: ever, and Jesus is like, you know what Moses said? 08:40.828 --> 08:42.489 [SPEAKER_01]: No, Moses said it was okay. 08:43.689 --> 08:44.149 [SPEAKER_00]: No! 08:44.449 --> 08:47.590 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the divorce was okay according to the Old Testament. 08:47.650 --> 08:51.312 [SPEAKER_01]: There were rules and laws specifically for divorce in the Old Testament. 08:51.332 --> 08:53.773 [SPEAKER_00]: Moses, oh, you know you're right, you're right, you're right. 08:54.233 --> 08:56.994 [SPEAKER_00]: Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce. 08:57.034 --> 09:00.715 [SPEAKER_00]: It was because your hearts were hard than Moses wrote to you. 09:00.735 --> 09:03.936 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, Jesus is changing the law right now in this book. 09:04.320 --> 09:07.462 [SPEAKER_00]: But at the beginning of creation, God made the male and female. 09:07.543 --> 09:09.964 [SPEAKER_00]: So Jesus is like, nobody gets a forced ever. 09:10.385 --> 09:14.988 [SPEAKER_00]: Stay with your abusive husband and your son of a bitch husband. 09:15.589 --> 09:20.973 [SPEAKER_00]: Your bad husband who treats you wrong, stay with him forever and just it's your fault. 09:21.033 --> 09:21.293 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 09:21.874 --> 09:28.979 [SPEAKER_00]: For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will fuck so they are no longer two, but one flesh. 09:29.460 --> 09:32.823 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate. 09:34.102 --> 09:37.643 [SPEAKER_00]: when they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 09:38.283 --> 09:43.584 [SPEAKER_00]: So even though his own disciples were like, hey, we waited till he got back home, but we have questions. 09:45.705 --> 09:46.065 [UNKNOWN]: I hate it. 09:46.685 --> 09:49.206 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what you told them, but is that what you actually think? 09:49.566 --> 09:49.906 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 09:49.926 --> 09:57.368 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so he answered anyone who divorces his wife and Mary's another woman commits adultery against her. 09:58.908 --> 10:00.870 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this was covered in Matthew. 10:00.990 --> 10:01.750 [SPEAKER_00]: I still hate it. 10:01.870 --> 10:02.671 [SPEAKER_00]: I hate it again. 10:02.931 --> 10:03.152 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 10:03.392 --> 10:04.493 [SPEAKER_00]: I still hate it, and I hate it. 10:04.533 --> 10:05.253 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's fair. 10:05.534 --> 10:07.976 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can hate things in the Bible multiple times. 10:08.316 --> 10:18.304 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah And if she divorces her husband and Mary's another man, she commits adultery So you're fine because you never divorce anybody. 10:18.324 --> 10:19.825 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true, but you're fucked. 10:20.206 --> 10:21.907 [SPEAKER_00]: I committed adultery. 10:22.007 --> 10:22.868 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm a horror 10:23.889 --> 10:24.610 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you okay? 10:24.650 --> 10:25.270 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Maria Hor? 10:25.350 --> 10:25.671 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good. 10:26.011 --> 10:27.152 [SPEAKER_00]: Yay! 10:27.392 --> 10:28.513 [SPEAKER_00]: I am safe. 10:29.153 --> 10:32.256 [SPEAKER_00]: My husband, the man, said that I am okay. 10:33.897 --> 10:36.640 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, people were bringing little children to Jesus. 10:37.403 --> 10:41.887 [SPEAKER_01]: That might not be, I mean, based on what I know of the clergy these days, that might not have been a good move. 10:42.027 --> 10:45.710 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not saying, I know nothing of the circumstances, but I'm just saying. 10:45.870 --> 10:49.613 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that we decided this was a bad segue in Matthew as well. 10:49.873 --> 10:51.214 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay. 10:51.234 --> 10:56.959 [SPEAKER_00]: People are bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. 10:57.840 --> 10:59.481 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop bringing your kids up in here. 10:59.521 --> 11:01.241 [SPEAKER_00]: These don't want to see your bucket kids. 11:02.301 --> 11:04.642 [SPEAKER_00]: When Jesus saw this, he was in dignity. 11:04.762 --> 11:09.223 [SPEAKER_00]: He said to them, Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them. 11:09.323 --> 11:12.464 [SPEAKER_00]: For the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 11:13.045 --> 11:17.786 [SPEAKER_00]: I think if I recall correctly from Matthew, it was his way of saying, Wake. 11:18.106 --> 11:28.130 [SPEAKER_00]: During that time, children were like the lowest of a loan not to not to be seen or heard like they were supposed to be out of the way and quiet. 11:28.150 --> 11:28.411 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:28.731 --> 11:35.454 [SPEAKER_01]: And no, it continues the theme that Jesus is saying the lowest will be the first. 11:35.474 --> 11:36.374 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever. 11:36.614 --> 11:45.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Truly, I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God, like a little child will never enter it, that I love those kids. 11:46.577 --> 11:50.821 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think he's trying to use them as an example of what your mentality should be. 11:51.221 --> 12:03.853 [SPEAKER_01]: You should view, you should view your religion, your Christianity, your, your, at the time, Judaism through the lens of being a child and you should be able to just accept the wonder and beauty of it all, right? 12:03.933 --> 12:04.213 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 12:04.454 --> 12:10.679 [SPEAKER_01]: And also be very manipulative, like be able to be manipulative, easily, like that, that's the take I take, like it's 12:11.460 --> 12:20.286 [SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's very wrong that children get forced into religious practice, right? 12:20.366 --> 12:26.491 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that is, I think it's a terrible way to raise your children personally. 12:26.691 --> 12:34.136 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that it should be a choice, an informed choice that kids are able to make it a later date when they are adults, personally. 12:34.758 --> 12:45.021 [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that in principle, but also having been raised without religion and everybody around me was religious, it was very lonely and felt very weird. 12:45.721 --> 12:56.625 [SPEAKER_01]: Ray, no, yeah, I've talked about this before myself, I grew up in a very small town and everybody around me was religious and I felt very left out. 12:58.285 --> 13:09.352 [SPEAKER_01]: I also know that, especially based on a lot of the people that we have encountered throughout this podcast, that a lot of the harm comes from childhood indoctrination. 13:09.432 --> 13:13.915 [SPEAKER_01]: And that inability to discern what is real and what isn't real. 13:14.795 --> 13:28.324 [SPEAKER_00]: because the people teaching you this are telling you something fantastical is real when the reality is that and then also saying don't ask any critical questions or develop critical thinkings. 13:28.424 --> 13:33.227 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a it's actually a problem as to how you are brought up to view the world. 13:33.908 --> 13:41.493 [SPEAKER_00]: We just watched this really interesting piece by Neil deGrasse Tyson about the 13:44.716 --> 13:53.570 [SPEAKER_00]: and one of the things that I found most interesting was that he said when he was in grad school, 13:55.795 --> 14:22.665 [SPEAKER_00]: it just seemed normal that other people from other countries would come to America for our science programs and that us draining their country of their scientists and their leaders of scientific thinking like it didn't occur to him that that was problematic for those countries but now as an adult he gets it and particularly since 14:23.385 --> 14:32.749 [SPEAKER_00]: the shoes on the other foot and now all of our scientists are going abroad for, you know, since our science programs were doing a way of science programs. 14:32.829 --> 14:33.049 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 14:33.089 --> 14:33.249 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 14:33.529 --> 14:33.809 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 14:34.069 --> 14:36.590 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I thought that was really interesting. 14:37.570 --> 14:39.271 [SPEAKER_00]: And I can't remember how I got on to that. 14:39.311 --> 14:40.912 [SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering what the relevance was. 14:41.232 --> 14:47.894 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, kids being raised in religion don't grow up learning science and 14:51.591 --> 14:54.894 [SPEAKER_00]: further enhanced is the problem of brain drain. 14:55.154 --> 14:58.317 [SPEAKER_00]: I know the America is suffering a brain drain. 14:58.397 --> 15:08.044 [SPEAKER_01]: I was speaking a little bit more to how they are brought up to not question authority and how they are brought up to not question things in general because of the way that they are brought up in religion. 15:08.105 --> 15:11.327 [SPEAKER_01]: They are not able to process one of those things. 15:12.168 --> 15:12.448 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 15:12.608 --> 15:12.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:12.868 --> 15:16.091 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not able to process propaganda correctly. 15:16.131 --> 15:16.712 [SPEAKER_01]: They can't see. 15:18.932 --> 15:21.293 [SPEAKER_01]: what's happening to them because of how they were taught. 15:21.793 --> 15:23.353 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that applies to everybody. 15:23.453 --> 15:24.373 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, people get out. 15:24.674 --> 15:26.814 [SPEAKER_01]: We've met so many of them. 15:26.994 --> 15:31.655 [SPEAKER_01]: But it does affect a lot of people in this country. 15:31.955 --> 15:32.175 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 15:33.456 --> 15:39.777 [SPEAKER_00]: So Jesus is like, love the little children, love love love love and he took the children in his arms. 15:39.917 --> 15:41.698 [SPEAKER_00]: Please, this hands on them and bless them. 15:42.702 --> 15:42.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 15:43.102 --> 15:43.523 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 15:43.583 --> 15:44.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Next section. 15:44.384 --> 15:44.624 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:45.204 --> 15:51.150 [SPEAKER_00]: As Jesus started on this way, a man ran up to him and fell in his knees before him. 15:51.370 --> 15:55.674 [SPEAKER_00]: Good teacher, he asked, what must I do to inherit eternal life? 15:56.354 --> 15:56.675 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:57.155 --> 15:58.897 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just be good. 15:58.937 --> 15:59.297 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess. 16:00.018 --> 16:00.718 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's my answer. 16:01.179 --> 16:02.440 [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you need eternal life? 16:02.460 --> 16:05.363 [SPEAKER_00]: Would be really like why do you have to live forever? 16:05.918 --> 16:15.887 [SPEAKER_01]: I've wondered that myself, like, what is weird in that, that's, we've talked about that a million times, too, that essentially religion boils down to a fear of death, right? 16:16.007 --> 16:17.908 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where a lot of this comes from. 16:18.389 --> 16:20.671 [SPEAKER_01]: And here it is right there in front of Jesus. 16:20.691 --> 16:21.411 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no. 16:21.451 --> 16:25.875 [SPEAKER_00]: How do I get to live forever, like, you don't, you're not fucking special. 16:25.895 --> 16:27.316 [SPEAKER_01]: That person is basically the same. 16:27.617 --> 16:28.397 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm scared of dying. 16:28.677 --> 16:28.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 16:29.078 --> 16:29.238 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:29.925 --> 16:32.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you call me good, Jesus answered? 16:32.667 --> 16:35.189 [SPEAKER_00]: No one is good, except God alone. 16:35.810 --> 16:48.080 [SPEAKER_00]: You know the commandments, you show not murder, you show not commit adultery, you show not steel, you show not get false testimony, you show not defraud, honor your father and mother. 16:49.061 --> 16:53.184 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, teacher, he declared, all these I have kept since I was a boy. 16:53.905 --> 16:56.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus looked at him and loved him. 16:56.604 --> 16:56.984 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 16:57.464 --> 17:05.789 [SPEAKER_00]: When you let, he said, go, so everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasuring heaven, then come follow me. 17:07.030 --> 17:11.132 [SPEAKER_01]: I said this, such a fucked up thing, right? 17:11.192 --> 17:18.756 [SPEAKER_01]: Go sell all your shit, that you've lived the perfect life, but now you need to be dirt fucking poor on top of it. 17:18.936 --> 17:26.160 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I feel like he's saying you've done everything right, but are you living lavish 17:27.148 --> 17:33.253 [SPEAKER_00]: way, we're taking it to mean, give all your shit away, so all your shit. 17:33.613 --> 17:47.324 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think what the message here is supposed to be is are you living comfortably and lavishly, or are you, like, what are you doing with your riches? 17:47.384 --> 17:48.645 [SPEAKER_00]: You've done everything right. 17:48.725 --> 17:51.087 [SPEAKER_00]: You've done everything you're supposed to, now level up. 17:51.427 --> 17:55.673 [SPEAKER_01]: but also when a god-tock shouldn't it be an exact message? 17:56.414 --> 17:59.158 [SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't it be something that defines what you're supposed to do? 17:59.178 --> 18:01.641 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this man took it, he understood the message. 18:01.781 --> 18:02.042 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 18:02.122 --> 18:03.664 [SPEAKER_00]: At this, the man's face fell. 18:04.573 --> 18:06.515 [SPEAKER_00]: He knew exactly what Jesus was saying. 18:06.816 --> 18:07.036 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 18:07.136 --> 18:09.839 [SPEAKER_00]: He went away side because he had great wealth. 18:10.360 --> 18:11.921 [SPEAKER_00]: So he understood the message. 18:12.142 --> 18:12.442 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 18:12.482 --> 18:15.265 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus was saying, good, you've done everything right. 18:15.305 --> 18:16.506 [SPEAKER_00]: You're ready to level up. 18:16.907 --> 18:20.992 [SPEAKER_00]: You want to know what you can do since you've already done the bare minimum. 18:21.032 --> 18:21.252 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:21.332 --> 18:22.273 [SPEAKER_00]: The next thing is to 18:24.655 --> 18:32.837 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're asking, how do I get in, even though I've already done everything, I know that that's not enough. 18:33.137 --> 18:36.278 [SPEAKER_00]: And Jesus is basically telling him, you're right, it's not enough. 18:36.758 --> 18:38.779 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what you need to do. 18:38.839 --> 18:40.779 [SPEAKER_00]: And the man's like, oh, fuck me. 18:40.819 --> 18:42.040 [SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping you wouldn't say that. 18:43.260 --> 18:45.461 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's what I'm taking from that. 18:45.521 --> 18:53.003 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, that doesn't necessarily go with or against the prosperity gospel. 18:55.215 --> 19:08.359 [SPEAKER_01]: you know, people can take that either way like I suppose I mean I don't I don't see how you can take that and still be okay with prosperity gospel. 19:08.887 --> 19:12.008 [SPEAKER_00]: because who are you selling your shit, too? 19:12.448 --> 19:16.990 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're selling it to the church for God, right? 19:17.070 --> 19:21.212 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you go be poor while the church and God are rich, right? 19:21.332 --> 19:24.233 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but when Joel's team has a fucking jet that he flies up. 19:24.253 --> 19:25.574 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not Joel, all's team. 19:25.714 --> 19:27.274 [SPEAKER_00]: That's God's plane. 19:28.915 --> 19:30.256 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's how they get away. 19:30.276 --> 19:33.377 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what the, that's not what the, you know, tax form say. 19:34.146 --> 19:35.908 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's form, schmacks form. 19:35.928 --> 19:38.891 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying like, that's their richest fuck. 19:39.151 --> 19:39.912 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I know. 19:39.992 --> 19:41.914 [SPEAKER_00]: And I agree with you, obviously. 19:42.694 --> 19:50.302 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm saying, somebody who is trying to preach the prosperity gospel can get away with, they can see whatever the fuck they want. 19:51.002 --> 19:53.605 [SPEAKER_00]: And these people I've never fucking rendership will believe them. 19:53.960 --> 20:03.142 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, when in Eric on our on our discord, which doing a live discord, I think it may be a champion says the church owns it, which, okay, fine. 20:03.763 --> 20:08.064 [SPEAKER_01]: But then in my opinion, the church doesn't get into fucking heaven. 20:08.724 --> 20:14.665 [SPEAKER_01]: And the people associated with it who are living lavishly through the church and the church's funds also don't get into heaven. 20:14.885 --> 20:20.647 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a, you know, if we're ever going with the true feeling, the true, you know, 20:21.567 --> 20:27.631 [SPEAKER_00]: But there's more than one reason that they wouldn't get into heaven per their own words. 20:28.111 --> 20:40.999 [SPEAKER_00]: There are griffy fuchs, there are thieves, there are probably pedos or and or rapists, you know, like not every single one, but there's a culture of protecting that. 20:41.200 --> 20:42.200 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:43.221 --> 20:49.805 [SPEAKER_00]: There's any number of reasons why those involved in wealthy churches are not going to get into their little heaven clothes. 20:50.768 --> 20:54.069 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, if we believe in that in the first place, but yeah, right. 20:54.329 --> 21:05.432 [SPEAKER_00]: But this man is seeing like I did all the things, but obviously I'm asking you what I can do to get in to heaven because I obviously know that that's not enough. 21:05.452 --> 21:07.713 [SPEAKER_00]: And Jesus is like, you know what you need to do. 21:08.193 --> 21:08.794 [SPEAKER_01]: for Jesus. 21:08.874 --> 21:20.850 [SPEAKER_01]: But like, this is another problem I have with the whole Jesus teachings here, is that we've talked about how Judaism had all these rules lined up as to this is what you do to worship God, right? 21:21.031 --> 21:23.133 [SPEAKER_01]: And now Jesus is like, you have too much money. 21:23.874 --> 21:47.847 [SPEAKER_01]: right like what but what is that fucking mean like what do you mean by that specifically like how do you how do you change I have too much money does it mean giving 10% of your earnings to the church does it mean giving 20% does it mean like how much do you have to give in order to qualify for this hypothetical afterlife you know like I I get that is 21:49.470 --> 21:52.271 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, there's no definition. 21:52.591 --> 21:55.832 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no rule, it's just a feeling. 21:56.472 --> 21:59.773 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't do well with things that are just a feeling. 21:59.833 --> 22:02.254 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm like, what is that fucking feeling? 22:02.534 --> 22:04.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually fucking meme. 22:04.574 --> 22:06.015 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is your rule book? 22:06.275 --> 22:07.175 [SPEAKER_00]: I need to know the rules. 22:07.295 --> 22:07.595 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 22:07.775 --> 22:12.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this rule is, go sell everything you have and give it to the poor. 22:12.857 --> 22:14.277 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you will have treasure in heaven. 22:15.777 --> 22:16.638 [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay. 22:16.958 --> 22:17.378 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure. 22:18.685 --> 22:21.709 [SPEAKER_00]: And the man's face fell because he had great wealth. 22:22.009 --> 22:22.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:22.430 --> 22:23.311 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't want to be poor. 22:23.471 --> 22:25.253 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, I guess I'm not going to have in that. 22:25.794 --> 22:26.014 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 22:26.254 --> 22:29.598 [SPEAKER_00]: Just like Trump was challenged. 22:30.559 --> 22:35.645 [SPEAKER_00]: If all you had to do to get into heaven was forgive Pelosi and I forget who else. 22:36.106 --> 22:36.667 [SPEAKER_01]: Pelosi. 22:37.189 --> 22:37.990 [SPEAKER_00]: Nancy Pelosi. 22:38.190 --> 22:38.590 [SPEAKER_00]: At that. 22:38.630 --> 22:39.471 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, at the church. 22:39.491 --> 22:40.191 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:40.211 --> 22:42.113 [SPEAKER_01]: From the 60 minutes interview for Trump. 22:42.173 --> 22:42.393 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:42.453 --> 22:44.855 [SPEAKER_00]: Trump was challenged by the interviewer. 22:44.995 --> 22:51.759 [SPEAKER_00]: If all you had to do to get into heaven was forgive Pelosi and a number of other people, would you do it? 22:52.160 --> 22:53.160 [SPEAKER_00]: And Trump said no. 22:53.881 --> 22:54.101 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:54.241 --> 22:56.283 [SPEAKER_00]: Because then I wouldn't be true. 22:56.303 --> 22:57.744 [SPEAKER_00]: And I got to be true to me. 22:58.184 --> 23:01.446 [SPEAKER_00]: And so then the interviewer was like, so you wouldn't get into heaven. 23:02.387 --> 23:03.588 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was Jim Comey. 23:04.108 --> 23:04.529 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 23:04.549 --> 23:05.089 [SPEAKER_00]: James Comey. 23:05.109 --> 23:05.369 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 23:06.791 --> 23:07.873 [SPEAKER_01]: That was, thank you, Freddie. 23:08.113 --> 23:08.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 23:10.536 --> 23:18.307 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, basically the interviewer and the guy here, like, 23:19.154 --> 23:20.254 [SPEAKER_00]: heard hold on. 23:20.634 --> 23:26.857 [SPEAKER_00]: The interviewer and Jesus are both like, if all you have to do is this one thing, can you do it? 23:27.217 --> 23:27.417 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 23:27.477 --> 23:31.118 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the rich man and Trump are both like, no. 23:31.138 --> 23:37.900 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and some of the conversation right now in our discord is that it's about the prioritization of God over the money type situation. 23:38.440 --> 23:40.841 [SPEAKER_01]: So, but again, it's still this feeling. 23:40.941 --> 23:42.362 [SPEAKER_01]: It's still this idea that 23:43.382 --> 23:45.623 [SPEAKER_01]: There is no solid answer to. 23:46.203 --> 23:50.384 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just something you have to wrap your heart around or I don't know. 23:50.404 --> 23:57.626 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I struggle with that kind of an answer because it doesn't really, it doesn't mean anything unless it does. 23:57.706 --> 24:00.387 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you, who does it mean something to you? 24:00.407 --> 24:02.607 [SPEAKER_01]: If it means something to you, I guess that's enough. 24:02.667 --> 24:09.869 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's the point is you can't preach forgiveness if you want for giving, right? 24:09.889 --> 24:10.930 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't preach. 24:13.340 --> 24:21.927 [SPEAKER_00]: take care of the poor if you are not willing to understand poverty, and that's what these lessons are. 24:22.908 --> 24:25.690 [SPEAKER_00]: It is a feeling, but it's also obvious. 24:26.410 --> 24:28.652 [SPEAKER_00]: They come on, you're rich. 24:29.613 --> 24:40.482 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing with, it's why we as Americans have the saying this become very popular in the last few years that there is no such thing as an ethical billionaire. 24:40.903 --> 24:41.123 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 24:41.463 --> 24:49.687 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, you know, you're not doing enough to help the poor, otherwise you wouldn't be a fucking billionaire. 24:49.907 --> 24:54.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Look at Dolly Parton could have been a billionaire multiple times over, but she gave it all away. 24:54.810 --> 24:55.230 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:55.450 --> 25:01.453 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, she lived comfortably, but she didn't live lavishly and she gave back to her community. 25:01.553 --> 25:04.834 [SPEAKER_00]: She helped with vaccinations. 25:10.637 --> 25:11.658 [SPEAKER_00]: She gave back. 25:12.199 --> 25:12.399 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 25:12.740 --> 25:14.321 [SPEAKER_00]: She took it very seriously. 25:14.441 --> 25:16.003 [SPEAKER_00]: She understood the message. 25:16.644 --> 25:19.026 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she was a Christian. 25:19.747 --> 25:22.130 [SPEAKER_00]: She proclaimed herself as a Christian. 25:22.310 --> 25:25.353 [SPEAKER_00]: She understood the message and she was like, this is what I need to do. 25:25.373 --> 25:26.995 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and she walked the lock, right? 25:27.055 --> 25:27.335 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 25:27.515 --> 25:28.336 [SPEAKER_01]: No, and I, I give it. 25:28.436 --> 25:28.737 [SPEAKER_01]: I give it. 25:29.077 --> 25:42.968 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're looking for a rulebook as an atheist, but I think as a Christian, you would understand the feeling of the rules, because you would take it seriously and you would be like, I know if I'm doing enough. 25:43.789 --> 25:48.252 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a Christian, you probably feel like I'm never doing enough. 25:48.853 --> 25:50.714 [SPEAKER_00]: What more can I do to help? 25:51.094 --> 25:52.436 [SPEAKER_00]: What more can I do? 25:52.516 --> 25:54.077 [SPEAKER_00]: What more of myself can I give? 25:54.515 --> 25:58.096 [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of this goes back in my opinion to empathy, right? 25:58.156 --> 26:01.137 [SPEAKER_01]: And that feeling that you have towards your fellow humans, right? 26:01.157 --> 26:02.978 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why we all love Dolly Pertan. 26:03.278 --> 26:05.799 [SPEAKER_00]: She was the most empathetic of us all, right? 26:05.959 --> 26:13.362 [SPEAKER_01]: Which, for the record, I don't think requires a God, just because that is something that a lot of Christians would claim is that you can't have 26:14.022 --> 26:17.463 [SPEAKER_01]: these correct feelings while being an atheist. 26:17.703 --> 26:18.003 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 26:18.364 --> 26:18.504 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 26:18.704 --> 26:27.847 [SPEAKER_01]: And I push back on that hard because I know most people that I know who are the most empathetic are often times not religious. 26:28.827 --> 26:29.948 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, religious people. 26:30.688 --> 26:32.029 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 26:32.689 --> 26:34.850 [SPEAKER_01]: So I struggle with that idea and 26:36.584 --> 26:50.345 [SPEAKER_01]: I struggle with the idea that you could check like my curiosity is like if you check all the boxes plus the empathy card or whatever it is that you have to do to get that if you still don't believe in God. 26:51.377 --> 26:55.058 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, like, what are all the exact criteria? 26:55.379 --> 27:00.721 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I feel like the fact that this man was seeing, I've fulfilled all the criteria. 27:00.761 --> 27:02.481 [SPEAKER_00]: What more can I do here to you? 27:02.942 --> 27:05.443 [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he was asking was the problem. 27:05.823 --> 27:07.423 [SPEAKER_00]: He knew he wasn't doing enough. 27:07.463 --> 27:10.405 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why he wanted Jesus to let him off the hook. 27:10.525 --> 27:12.886 [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted Jesus to tell him, no, you're good. 27:12.926 --> 27:14.106 [SPEAKER_00]: You followed all the fucking rules. 27:14.126 --> 27:15.247 [SPEAKER_00]: You checked all the boxes. 27:15.507 --> 27:15.847 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess. 27:16.467 --> 27:18.388 [SPEAKER_01]: I still feel there's like a lot of questions. 27:19.052 --> 27:25.237 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you know, with regard to how Jesus is pitching this, but I don't disagree that Jesus has a lot of problems. 27:25.797 --> 27:26.258 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:26.298 --> 27:28.900 [SPEAKER_00]: The story of Jesus is problematic in and of itself. 27:29.040 --> 27:29.240 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:29.280 --> 27:36.586 [SPEAKER_00]: But the question of empathy and what are the rules and taking care of your fellow man? 27:36.606 --> 27:39.248 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like those are pretty fucking clear. 27:39.849 --> 27:43.472 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the man is asking because he already knew the answer. 27:44.570 --> 27:46.351 [SPEAKER_00]: He was hoping Jesus would let him off the hook. 27:46.691 --> 27:49.293 [SPEAKER_00]: And Jesus was like, oh, okay. 27:49.533 --> 27:52.055 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you did check all the boxes. 27:52.235 --> 27:53.636 [SPEAKER_00]: You did the bare-fucking minimum. 27:53.796 --> 27:55.718 [SPEAKER_00]: Now do some emotional work. 27:56.058 --> 27:56.558 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:56.678 --> 27:58.300 [SPEAKER_00]: And the guy was like, God damn it. 27:58.320 --> 28:00.181 [SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping you wouldn't fucking say that. 28:00.421 --> 28:00.641 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 28:01.061 --> 28:01.582 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 28:01.902 --> 28:06.885 [SPEAKER_00]: To me, that's what this whole thing was about is don't just check the box. 28:07.166 --> 28:09.167 [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, do the fucking emotional work. 28:09.247 --> 28:09.467 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 28:11.469 --> 28:13.030 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, a lot of people don't want to hear that. 28:13.511 --> 28:13.711 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 28:13.931 --> 28:14.392 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I get it. 28:16.013 --> 28:18.596 [SPEAKER_00]: But you can do that whether you're a Christian or not. 28:18.836 --> 28:19.576 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 28:20.117 --> 28:23.780 [SPEAKER_00]: You can do the work and you can be a decent person. 28:23.981 --> 28:25.102 [SPEAKER_00]: You can give. 28:25.522 --> 28:28.304 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say that these are rules on how to be a decent person. 28:28.425 --> 28:28.645 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 28:28.825 --> 28:29.065 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 28:29.345 --> 28:36.252 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's not you don't have to be a follower of Christ or God in order to do that. 28:36.616 --> 28:41.818 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think also the fact that this man was not saying, how can I help people more? 28:42.218 --> 28:44.299 [SPEAKER_00]: He was saying, how can I live forever? 28:44.679 --> 28:45.799 [SPEAKER_00]: He's asking the wrong phone. 28:45.839 --> 28:46.340 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 28:46.380 --> 28:46.620 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 28:46.940 --> 28:54.623 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he should have been asking, I feel like I've checked all the boxes and I'm missing something. 28:54.743 --> 28:56.704 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's still not hidden. 28:57.384 --> 28:57.684 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:57.724 --> 28:58.684 [SPEAKER_00]: What am I doing wrong? 28:59.645 --> 28:59.805 [SPEAKER_00]: And, 29:01.031 --> 29:07.436 [SPEAKER_00]: That's where they could have got into a talk about empathy and compassion and like well you're doing it for all the wrong reasons. 29:07.456 --> 29:08.577 [SPEAKER_00]: You're checking the boxes. 29:08.617 --> 29:13.602 [SPEAKER_00]: You're only wearing a certain number of flare to use the example that we always use. 29:13.662 --> 29:13.862 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 29:14.042 --> 29:16.884 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't actually want to work at this fucking restaurant. 29:17.465 --> 29:18.065 [SPEAKER_00]: It's clear. 29:18.446 --> 29:21.308 [SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't ask how many pieces of flare do I need to wear. 29:22.007 --> 29:28.350 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's, you're asking for, I want a specific number of flair because you don't want to work at that restaurant. 29:28.370 --> 29:40.056 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the true, but at the same time, they just got done with a religion until Jesus came around apparently, where the religion was very much a checklist of rules. 29:40.736 --> 29:45.699 [SPEAKER_01]: So that they came from how many pieces of flair into, I don't know, how's it feel? 29:45.879 --> 29:49.521 [SPEAKER_00]: But the checklist of rules was for their culture. 29:50.723 --> 29:54.485 [SPEAKER_00]: And Jesus is saying, it's less about your culture. 29:54.605 --> 29:56.847 [SPEAKER_00]: You can toss your culture to the wayside. 29:57.367 --> 29:59.248 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a fuck about your culture. 29:59.968 --> 30:01.749 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a fuck who your parents are. 30:01.769 --> 30:04.211 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a fuck who your neighbors are. 30:05.091 --> 30:12.195 [SPEAKER_00]: Walk away from all of them and do what feels like what you're supposed to be doing. 30:12.716 --> 30:12.936 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 30:13.456 --> 30:16.718 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what Christianity is trying to be pitching here 30:20.732 --> 30:20.912 [SPEAKER_01]: God. 30:21.393 --> 30:35.744 [SPEAKER_00]: It's gross and gross task from a, from a stance of history and historical value, like, but you're just saying all of a sudden that Judaism is bad and wrong. 30:36.584 --> 30:39.326 [SPEAKER_00]: And we've been following these rules for thousands of years. 30:39.587 --> 30:39.807 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 30:39.827 --> 30:40.127 [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck. 30:40.407 --> 30:40.627 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 30:41.408 --> 30:50.115 [SPEAKER_00]: And just in this particular section, Jesus is like, we'll go to the fucking rule books if you're doing it for all the wrong reasons. 30:50.530 --> 30:50.770 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 30:51.891 --> 30:54.813 [SPEAKER_00]: Which I, I can't believe I'm defending Christian. 30:54.853 --> 30:58.615 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say this is selling very, this is a very weird moment. 30:59.436 --> 30:59.676 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 30:59.796 --> 31:02.178 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I'm on this particular side. 31:02.218 --> 31:04.019 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you pushed me into this side. 31:06.160 --> 31:07.721 [SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm defending. 31:07.841 --> 31:08.482 [SPEAKER_01]: There it is, guys. 31:08.522 --> 31:09.262 [SPEAKER_01]: Why is the Christian? 31:09.362 --> 31:12.465 [SPEAKER_00]: No, we can't. 31:12.505 --> 31:15.106 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying for this particular conversation about 31:17.060 --> 31:25.145 [SPEAKER_00]: what the man was asking and what Jesus was conveying for that conversation, not for the entirety of the Old Testament and the New Testament. 31:25.625 --> 31:29.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Just for this conversation, I'm like, okay, I get what that was about. 31:29.887 --> 31:30.848 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, okay. 31:31.508 --> 31:43.015 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, anyways, so Jesus looked around at his disciples who are like the fuck and he asked them, how hard is it for the rich and to the kingdom of God? 31:43.514 --> 31:44.995 [SPEAKER_01]: just for the camel goes through the needle. 31:45.075 --> 31:46.055 [SPEAKER_00]: It sure spoke it. 31:46.315 --> 31:46.535 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 31:46.615 --> 31:51.517 [SPEAKER_00]: The disciples were amazed at his words because billionaires can get in, right? 31:52.158 --> 31:57.400 [SPEAKER_00]: But Jesus said again, children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God. 31:58.000 --> 32:05.263 [SPEAKER_00]: It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God. 32:05.663 --> 32:06.564 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my drop. 32:06.604 --> 32:09.585 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why we don't like Taylor Swift. 32:11.307 --> 32:13.628 [SPEAKER_01]: But wow, now we've lost like half her fucking audience. 32:14.049 --> 32:17.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I tried to defend her as long as I could. 32:18.071 --> 32:23.834 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought she was a savvy business woman and then I found out that all of her business Abby came from her father. 32:24.514 --> 32:37.262 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought she was a brilliant songwriter and then I found out that she's been schooled on this shit and she was a kid and that her parents basically set her up for this quote unquote business. 32:37.302 --> 32:37.622 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:38.489 --> 32:44.474 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just that I keep trying to promote her podcast more and more and then you you call out the Swifties on our podcast. 32:44.494 --> 32:46.276 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like goddamn okay. 32:46.596 --> 32:57.065 [SPEAKER_00]: But also listen I can say all of that about Taylor Swift and I can also say that every single one of her music videos is a piece of goddamn fucking art. 32:57.686 --> 32:59.267 [SPEAKER_00]: She is a storyteller. 32:59.327 --> 33:01.489 [SPEAKER_00]: She has a fantastic director 33:02.532 --> 33:03.733 [SPEAKER_00]: She knows what she's doing. 33:03.813 --> 33:06.315 [SPEAKER_00]: She is an artist. 33:06.335 --> 33:08.476 [SPEAKER_00]: And that did not come from her family. 33:09.036 --> 33:10.858 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, that came from her. 33:11.558 --> 33:18.863 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not a swifty, I'm just an objective person who can tell you all the good and all the bad about Taylor Swift. 33:19.203 --> 33:26.128 [SPEAKER_00]: And the bad is that she is a billionaire and he's the get rid of some of her money by doing good in the world and by taking a fucking stance. 33:27.617 --> 33:31.240 [SPEAKER_00]: and she won't because she's a secret Republican. 33:31.420 --> 33:36.564 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, just for the record, we have friends who are swepties, we're fine with swepties, just to be clear. 33:37.184 --> 33:39.967 [SPEAKER_00]: I just asked her fucking music videos or art. 33:40.307 --> 33:44.090 [SPEAKER_00]: Her most recent one, patient, zero, had me and tears. 33:44.270 --> 33:47.172 [SPEAKER_00]: I made you watch it, and you were blown away. 33:47.532 --> 33:49.114 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's a good music. 33:49.174 --> 33:54.558 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying, I'm just saying, you called out like a crowd of people that like, well, hey. 33:55.148 --> 34:04.500 [SPEAKER_00]: turn off our podcast saying you can be a swifty and also admit that she has too much money and needs to give up. 34:04.560 --> 34:05.301 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right. 34:05.682 --> 34:07.484 [SPEAKER_00]: If you can't do that, wait. 34:07.564 --> 34:10.248 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one thing of the question God, but the question Taylor Swift. 34:10.842 --> 34:11.363 [SPEAKER_00]: I look. 34:11.663 --> 34:12.744 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to tell you. 34:13.205 --> 34:13.826 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. 34:13.846 --> 34:15.768 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'm not even a fan. 34:15.788 --> 34:16.529 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, you know. 34:16.609 --> 34:21.354 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not religious about anybody or anything, including Taylor Swift. 34:21.414 --> 34:21.835 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 34:22.155 --> 34:27.141 [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot understand religiosity around a person, okay? 34:27.341 --> 34:27.802 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't. 34:28.668 --> 34:29.828 [SPEAKER_00]: So, sorry. 34:30.289 --> 34:30.909 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's fine. 34:30.989 --> 34:38.451 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, if you want to be relieved, but if you were to ask my opinion before the podcast, if we wanted to pick a fight with Swifties, I would've said no, probably not. 34:38.511 --> 34:39.072 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm one of those. 34:39.092 --> 34:40.072 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a great idea. 34:40.312 --> 34:43.733 [SPEAKER_00]: You know who I think you should start to be, maybe religious about? 34:43.853 --> 34:44.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's that? 34:44.354 --> 34:45.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Pedro Pascal. 34:47.415 --> 34:50.136 [SPEAKER_00]: He's on the right side of his head in all the ways. 34:50.236 --> 34:51.056 [SPEAKER_01]: So Jesus, then. 34:52.497 --> 34:52.857 [SPEAKER_00]: whatever. 34:53.618 --> 34:58.361 [SPEAKER_00]: I do think that Taylor Swift needs to stop being a Republican. 34:59.141 --> 34:59.861 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think. 34:59.962 --> 35:01.022 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she's a Republican. 35:01.042 --> 35:02.983 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think she's she is a Republican. 35:03.023 --> 35:03.344 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 35:03.964 --> 35:04.444 [SPEAKER_00]: She is. 35:05.385 --> 35:06.746 [SPEAKER_00]: She's definitely a Republican. 35:06.766 --> 35:11.449 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't you don't know that and I don't think that's that's an unfair statement to make. 35:11.829 --> 35:15.271 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have the spelled out facts. 35:15.431 --> 35:18.453 [SPEAKER_00]: I do have a lot of supporting evidence. 35:18.473 --> 35:20.014 [SPEAKER_01]: It's 35:22.325 --> 35:23.847 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that for a fact. 35:24.247 --> 35:28.512 [SPEAKER_00]: I just have a lot of supporting evidence for my opinion. 35:28.532 --> 35:29.954 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 35:30.895 --> 35:32.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, she's just something I'm Republican. 35:33.538 --> 35:39.705 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's easier for a camel than a Taylor Swift to enter the kingdom of God, okay? 35:39.745 --> 35:39.986 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 35:40.746 --> 35:46.147 [SPEAKER_00]: The disciples were even more amazed and said to each other, oh, then can be saved. 35:46.207 --> 35:49.408 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if even Taylor Swift can do it, how could we? 35:50.148 --> 35:56.189 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus looked at them and said, with man, this is impossible, but not with God. 35:56.589 --> 35:58.310 [SPEAKER_00]: All things are possible with God. 35:58.690 --> 35:59.750 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you really think so? 36:00.110 --> 36:00.350 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 36:00.610 --> 36:01.210 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so either. 36:01.830 --> 36:04.011 [SPEAKER_00]: Then Peter, oh, Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater. 36:04.191 --> 36:04.811 [SPEAKER_00]: He spoke up. 36:05.731 --> 36:07.971 [SPEAKER_00]: We have left everything to follow you. 36:07.991 --> 36:09.912 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, what the fuck? 36:10.767 --> 36:11.928 [SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't even track. 36:12.109 --> 36:12.269 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 36:13.090 --> 36:27.248 [SPEAKER_00]: Truly I tell you Jesus replied, no one who is left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age. 36:27.878 --> 36:36.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and build along with persecutions and in the age to come eternal life. 36:36.864 --> 36:38.385 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you'll look forever, don't worry. 36:38.405 --> 36:38.745 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 36:39.245 --> 36:42.207 [SPEAKER_00]: But many who are first will be last and the last. 36:42.508 --> 36:42.848 [SPEAKER_00]: First. 36:43.508 --> 36:43.888 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 36:44.429 --> 36:46.410 [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't make sense, but okay. 36:46.450 --> 36:47.831 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's explaining that somewhere. 36:47.891 --> 36:48.571 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 36:48.632 --> 36:49.652 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just the way he's annoying. 36:49.852 --> 36:51.694 [SPEAKER_00]: His wording is so like Iki. 36:51.954 --> 36:52.234 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 36:52.414 --> 36:55.436 [SPEAKER_00]: He just, I think it's fair to say he gives me the egg. 36:56.847 --> 36:57.948 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's fair. 36:58.168 --> 36:58.348 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:59.589 --> 36:59.989 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 37:00.150 --> 37:09.036 [SPEAKER_00]: So they were up on their way to Jerusalem with Jesus leading the way and the disciples were astonished. 37:09.056 --> 37:11.618 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, those who followed were afraid. 37:13.759 --> 37:18.903 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, he took the capital T12 aside and told them what was going to happen to them. 37:19.887 --> 37:23.670 [SPEAKER_00]: sick of him, like, telling his prehistory. 37:24.210 --> 37:24.511 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 37:24.791 --> 37:26.432 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't like it. 37:26.452 --> 37:27.253 [SPEAKER_01]: You mean like, how is... 37:27.933 --> 37:28.714 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to die. 37:28.794 --> 37:29.134 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 37:29.214 --> 37:31.056 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, hey guys, hey guys, come here. 37:31.236 --> 37:32.056 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to die. 37:32.076 --> 37:34.678 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, did I already tell you this one? 37:34.979 --> 37:35.959 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to die. 37:36.020 --> 37:36.320 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 37:36.961 --> 37:43.450 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going up to Jerusalem, he said, and the Son of man will be delivered over to the, that's me. 37:44.271 --> 37:46.734 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm referring to me in the third person. 37:46.994 --> 37:48.616 [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus, Jesus, yes. 37:48.656 --> 37:54.745 [SPEAKER_00]: The Son of man, me, Jesus will be delivered over to the chief priest and the teachers of the law. 37:55.966 --> 37:56.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Woo! 37:56.546 --> 38:08.797 [SPEAKER_00]: They will condemn him, me, to death, and will hand him, me, over to the Gentiles, who will mock him, me, and spit on him, me, flock him, me, and kill him. 38:09.158 --> 38:13.221 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all he's literally talking about himself in the third person. 38:13.421 --> 38:14.082 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 38:14.162 --> 38:16.284 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I keep trying to like- 38:17.818 --> 38:19.979 [SPEAKER_00]: Three days later, he will rise. 38:20.319 --> 38:21.540 [SPEAKER_00]: Me, I will rise. 38:21.720 --> 38:23.961 [SPEAKER_00]: Me, I am referring to myself. 38:24.101 --> 38:24.361 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 38:25.061 --> 38:31.645 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like when Trump does that, like Trump says this and it's like, no, that's not how that sentence goes. 38:31.885 --> 38:32.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 38:32.645 --> 38:34.406 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop referring to yourself in the third person. 38:34.546 --> 38:35.326 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird. 38:35.486 --> 38:37.367 [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird and gross and we don't like it. 38:37.387 --> 38:38.868 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? 38:38.888 --> 38:39.228 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop. 38:40.269 --> 38:44.991 [SPEAKER_00]: Then James and John, the sons of Zubby, remember? 38:47.417 --> 38:48.317 [SPEAKER_00]: We said, are you in heaven? 38:48.337 --> 38:48.878 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. 38:48.998 --> 38:49.318 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. 38:50.098 --> 38:50.918 [SPEAKER_00]: They came up to him. 38:51.398 --> 38:56.961 [SPEAKER_00]: Teacher, they said, we want you to do for us whatever we ask. 38:59.081 --> 39:00.182 [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's. 39:00.282 --> 39:00.462 [SPEAKER_01]: That's. 39:01.153 --> 39:06.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Brey, if somebody walked up to me and was like, hey, life, I want you to do for me, whatever I am. 39:06.835 --> 39:08.976 [SPEAKER_01]: Brey, yeah, you wouldn't ask that. 39:09.156 --> 39:11.897 [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody, why would you ask that of the son of God? 39:11.937 --> 39:14.077 [SPEAKER_00]: That you ask me that, the answer is no. 39:14.137 --> 39:15.638 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what you're on. 39:15.698 --> 39:16.338 [SPEAKER_01]: Brey, yeah. 39:16.358 --> 39:18.339 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you're asking me if you can borrow a test. 39:18.439 --> 39:19.619 [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like a trick question. 39:19.659 --> 39:21.280 [SPEAKER_00]: The answer is no, immediately. 39:21.320 --> 39:24.481 [SPEAKER_00]: Brey, what do you want me to do for you? 39:24.601 --> 39:28.722 [SPEAKER_00]: He asked, they replied, let one of us sit at your right hand 39:31.039 --> 39:33.042 [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't there mom before? 39:33.282 --> 39:34.564 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like, yeah. 39:34.604 --> 39:35.565 [SPEAKER_00]: It was his mom asked. 39:35.625 --> 39:35.866 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 39:35.886 --> 39:37.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Now it's just straight up. 39:37.548 --> 39:38.289 [SPEAKER_01]: OK. Yeah. 39:39.851 --> 39:44.017 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus goes dudes, you don't know what you're asking. 39:44.883 --> 39:49.866 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they do, they're like, hey, you know, they think they know what that's okay. 39:50.026 --> 39:50.266 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 39:50.766 --> 39:52.627 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you don't even fucking know. 39:52.888 --> 39:53.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 39:53.768 --> 40:00.772 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, listen, can you drink the cup by drink or be baptized with the baptism I'm baptized with? 40:01.493 --> 40:11.959 [SPEAKER_00]: We can answer Jesus said to them, you will drink the cup by drink and be baptized with the baptism I'm baptized with, but to sit in my right or left 40:14.650 --> 40:17.794 [SPEAKER_00]: these places belong to those for whom they have been prepared. 40:18.855 --> 40:24.222 [SPEAKER_00]: That is such an obnoxious way of saying like, it's not a thing, it's up to God. 40:24.242 --> 40:24.923 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 40:25.524 --> 40:27.286 [SPEAKER_00]: God old, God old aside. 40:27.624 --> 40:28.004 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 40:28.384 --> 40:31.746 [SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you just look them square in the eye and be like dudes. 40:31.826 --> 40:32.086 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 40:32.106 --> 40:36.009 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they're even asking like very no. 40:36.309 --> 40:36.669 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 40:39.130 --> 40:40.451 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's just so weird. 40:40.491 --> 40:40.751 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 40:41.151 --> 40:45.894 [SPEAKER_00]: When the 10 heard about this, they became indignant with James and John. 40:46.114 --> 40:47.275 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can bet. 40:48.035 --> 40:51.238 [SPEAKER_00]: The other ten were like, fuck, what wrong with you? 40:51.259 --> 40:53.040 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you guys, you guys, you guys, get a special chance. 40:53.060 --> 40:59.747 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't just like walk up to Jesus and be like, yo yo yo, when we get to live forever in shit, I'm gonna sit by you. 40:59.948 --> 41:00.248 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 41:00.368 --> 41:01.349 [SPEAKER_00]: At your right and left. 41:01.449 --> 41:01.690 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:01.830 --> 41:04.052 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we want to be like your main number two. 41:04.112 --> 41:04.392 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:04.733 --> 41:04.893 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:05.474 --> 41:07.035 [SPEAKER_00]: So they were like kind of pissed. 41:07.436 --> 41:08.957 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus called them together and goes, 41:10.686 --> 41:19.712 [SPEAKER_00]: You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lorded over them and their high officials exercise authority over them. 41:20.678 --> 41:21.799 [SPEAKER_00]: not so with you. 41:22.359 --> 41:31.886 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. 41:32.607 --> 41:43.774 [SPEAKER_00]: For even the Son of Man, me, Jesus, did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many. 41:44.922 --> 41:51.444 [SPEAKER_00]: So he's like, remember that time when I fucking told you, I'm gonna die, dudes, I'm going to die. 41:52.124 --> 41:54.805 [SPEAKER_00]: Literally, you're asking, oh, I'm so excited. 41:54.825 --> 41:55.985 [SPEAKER_00]: Can we die, too? 41:56.765 --> 41:58.206 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you aware? 41:58.226 --> 41:59.526 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 41:59.586 --> 42:01.887 [SPEAKER_00]: What you're asking, you're idiots. 42:02.067 --> 42:02.307 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:02.762 --> 42:12.306 [SPEAKER_00]: and the other guys are like, oh, one of the ends, we wanna sit by you and Jesus is like, oh my God, you're literally not listening. 42:12.767 --> 42:15.548 [SPEAKER_00]: We're about to walk into a place where I'm gonna be killed. 42:15.828 --> 42:16.088 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:16.288 --> 42:17.569 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, fuck off. 42:17.729 --> 42:19.950 [SPEAKER_01]: And y'all are sitting here asking for a special seating. 42:20.270 --> 42:23.391 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, like, that is so later. 42:23.732 --> 42:24.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 42:26.300 --> 42:26.780 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they get going. 42:26.801 --> 42:31.125 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, then they came to Jericho as Jesus and his disciples together with a large crowd, we're leaving the city, a blind man, Martin Mayus, no, part of Mayus. 42:31.165 --> 42:31.926 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a big difference. 42:31.946 --> 42:32.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:32.146 --> 42:32.346 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:32.366 --> 42:32.546 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:32.586 --> 42:32.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:32.747 --> 42:32.847 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 42:32.867 --> 42:33.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:33.027 --> 42:33.167 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:33.207 --> 42:33.407 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:33.427 --> 42:33.708 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:33.728 --> 42:33.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:33.968 --> 42:34.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:34.408 --> 42:34.548 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:34.569 --> 42:34.729 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:34.749 --> 42:34.929 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:34.949 --> 42:35.129 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:35.189 --> 42:35.369 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:35.389 --> 42:35.530 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:35.550 --> 42:36.030 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:36.070 --> 42:36.250 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:36.270 --> 42:36.450 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:36.470 --> 42:36.711 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:36.731 --> 42:36.891 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:36.911 --> 42:37.351 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:37.371 --> 42:37.572 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:37.592 --> 42:37.752 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:37.772 --> 42:37.952 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:37.972 --> 42:38.112 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:38.152 --> 42:38.332 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:38.573 --> 42:38.993 [UNKNOWN]: Martin. 42:39.013 --> 42:39.153 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:39.173 --> 42:39.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:39.333 --> 42:39.474 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:39.494 --> 42:39.714 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:39.734 --> 42:39.874 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:39.894 --> 42:40.034 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:40.054 --> 42:40.194 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:40.214 --> 42:40.354 [UNKNOWN]: Martin. 42:40.435 --> 42:40.615 [UNKNOWN]: Martin. 42:40.635 --> 42:40.775 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:40.795 --> 42:40.935 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:40.955 --> 42:41.115 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:41.135 --> 42:41.335 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:41.356 --> 42:41.496 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:41.516 --> 42:41.756 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:41.776 --> 42:41.936 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:41.956 --> 42:42.116 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:42.136 --> 42:42.276 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:42.296 --> 42:42.437 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:42.457 --> 42:42.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:42.657 --> 42:42.797 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:42.817 --> 42:42.957 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:42.977 --> 42:43.137 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:43.157 --> 42:43.298 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:43.318 --> 42:43.458 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:43.478 --> 42:43.618 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:43.638 --> 42:43.818 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:43.838 --> 42:44.018 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:44.038 --> 42:44.279 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:44.299 --> 42:44.439 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:44.459 --> 42:44.599 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:44.619 --> 42:44.759 [SPEAKER_01]: Martin. 42:44.779 --> 42:45.039 [UNKNOWN]: Martin. 42:45.059 --> 42:45.199 [UNKNOWN]: Martin. 42:45.219 --> 42:45.380 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:45.400 --> 42:45.560 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:45.580 --> 42:45.720 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:45.740 --> 42:45.880 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:45.900 --> 42:46.060 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:46.080 --> 42:46.581 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:46.601 --> 42:46.761 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:46.801 --> 42:46.941 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:46.961 --> 42:47.141 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:47.161 --> 42:47.302 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:47.542 --> 42:47.762 [UNKNOWN]: Martin. 42:47.782 --> 42:47.942 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:47.962 --> 42:48.122 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:48.142 --> 42:48.283 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:48.303 --> 42:48.443 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:48.463 --> 42:48.603 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:48.623 --> 42:48.783 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:48.803 --> 42:48.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:48.963 --> 42:49.103 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:49.124 --> 42:49.304 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:49.324 --> 42:49.604 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin. 42:50.387 --> 42:51.228 [SPEAKER_00]: Was sitting with. 42:51.288 --> 42:51.668 [SPEAKER_01]: Hold on. 42:52.489 --> 43:00.057 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a part of me, part of me is because the part of to me is bar to me is sort of to me is. 43:00.497 --> 43:02.919 [SPEAKER_01]: So these added a bar in front of to me is. 43:03.040 --> 43:03.480 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:03.500 --> 43:03.740 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 43:03.900 --> 43:04.081 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 43:04.821 --> 43:09.266 [SPEAKER_00]: So to me is had a son that he named Bart. 43:10.767 --> 43:14.668 [SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, Barty was sitting by the roadside begging, okay. 43:14.728 --> 43:14.928 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:15.328 --> 43:24.291 [SPEAKER_00]: When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, Jay is a son of David, have mercy on me, many repute him. 43:24.491 --> 43:27.952 [SPEAKER_00]: They were like, hush, man, and told him to be quiet. 43:28.212 --> 43:32.774 [SPEAKER_00]: But he shouted all the more son of Moses, and them David, have mercy on me. 43:32.834 --> 43:33.774 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, okay. 43:34.034 --> 43:34.314 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 43:34.374 --> 43:36.275 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus stopped and said, call him. 43:37.275 --> 43:39.276 [SPEAKER_00]: So they called to the blind man, 43:39.752 --> 43:43.996 [SPEAKER_00]: cheer up Charlie, just be glad you're you. 43:45.017 --> 43:48.760 [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's from Charlie and the chocolate factory. 43:48.961 --> 43:50.962 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I, yeah, I didn't know. 43:51.102 --> 43:52.824 [SPEAKER_00]: The mom sings it's just Charlie. 43:53.224 --> 43:53.605 [SPEAKER_01]: Got it. 43:53.645 --> 43:58.069 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, but what they called was cheer up, not cheer up Charlie. 43:58.269 --> 44:02.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but I see cheer up and I'm like, yeah, all you're singing to the poor 44:06.076 --> 44:11.758 [SPEAKER_00]: She's saying remember when Charlie was like poor and it's all his grandparents He slept in the same bed. 44:11.778 --> 44:18.940 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember that then he's like I never get to bite chocolate to win a bug Do it cuz we're poor right and the mom was like cheer up. 44:19.240 --> 44:20.060 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right? 44:20.160 --> 44:24.742 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what Jesus and the disciples are like You're poor, but cheer up. 44:25.002 --> 44:26.062 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, on your feet. 44:26.322 --> 44:27.382 [SPEAKER_00]: He's calling to you. 44:27.402 --> 44:28.143 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 44:28.663 --> 44:29.083 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay 44:30.273 --> 44:34.014 [SPEAKER_00]: Growing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus. 44:34.094 --> 44:34.794 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 44:35.014 --> 44:50.718 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, remember, in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, when Jean Wilder, like at the very beginning, he's like walking with his cane and then like at the very end, he walks down the aisle and then at the very end, he like looked like he's falling and he falls into a roll and bounces up. 44:51.318 --> 44:52.738 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what this blind man just did. 44:53.078 --> 44:53.338 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 44:53.598 --> 44:54.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 44:54.798 --> 44:56.819 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I said that last time too, and Matthew. 44:57.621 --> 45:01.504 [SPEAKER_00]: Because because he just bounced up out of nowhere, like what? 45:01.904 --> 45:02.524 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 45:02.565 --> 45:02.725 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 45:02.805 --> 45:07.728 [SPEAKER_00]: Throwing his cloak aside, he pulled a jean wilder, jumped to his feet and came to Jesus. 45:08.489 --> 45:09.730 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you want me to do for you? 45:10.230 --> 45:11.091 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus asked him. 45:11.711 --> 45:13.252 [SPEAKER_00]: The blind man said, well, why? 45:13.472 --> 45:14.353 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see. 45:14.933 --> 45:17.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Go said, Jesus, your faith is healed you. 45:17.815 --> 45:18.996 [SPEAKER_00]: My spit this time. 45:19.096 --> 45:20.137 [SPEAKER_01]: Good faith. 45:20.177 --> 45:21.518 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't spit it as I. Nope. 45:23.654 --> 45:27.138 [SPEAKER_00]: Immediately he received his site and followed Jesus along the road. 45:27.158 --> 45:29.521 [SPEAKER_01]: To be fair, it didn't say he didn't spit in his eye. 45:30.802 --> 45:32.605 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he may have spit in his eye. 45:32.785 --> 45:34.127 [SPEAKER_00]: But he said his faith healed him. 45:34.367 --> 45:35.448 [SPEAKER_00]: And then to immediately. 45:35.468 --> 45:36.790 [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe it was faith and spit. 45:37.713 --> 45:52.265 [SPEAKER_00]: Well listen, you know the man was over there and immediately he received a site and followed Jesus along the world the end look Okay, I just like to think of Jesus walking around spitting in people's faces I think that's a lot more funny way to view this whole thing and given him what will he? 45:52.345 --> 46:01.413 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's that's really I think that's I think that's I think that's how we should all view Jesus Spitting in people's faces and giving them what we're giving them what will he's I'm sorry. 46:01.433 --> 46:02.614 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the what will he's for me? 46:02.714 --> 46:04.776 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the shit that does it for me 46:07.459 --> 46:10.302 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that was Mark chapter 10. 46:10.362 --> 46:11.223 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, it's buck was. 46:11.964 --> 46:15.888 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, we'll probably have a Q&A next. 46:16.048 --> 46:18.110 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know, probably. 46:18.331 --> 46:18.731 [SPEAKER_00]: We will. 46:18.751 --> 46:20.013 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 46:20.213 --> 46:22.475 [SPEAKER_01]: So that that's what we'll be doing next. 46:22.715 --> 46:24.317 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that is what we'll be doing next time. 46:24.357 --> 46:27.140 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to score every Tuesday at 10 p.m. Eastern. 46:27.460 --> 46:28.862 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, we'll see you next time. 46:29.122 --> 46:29.383 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye.