WEBVTT 00:00.402 --> 00:12.485 [SPEAKER_00]: Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world, but the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, where we continue to follow the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden now. 00:12.525 --> 00:18.687 [SPEAKER_03]: There's just some of the scenes overnight, a thousands of Americans gathered in some operation Osama bin Laden's death. 00:19.047 --> 00:24.869 [SPEAKER_02]: Former Navy SEAL Roboniel says he has thought about the mission every day since that Mayday in 2020. 00:25.029 --> 00:32.352 [SPEAKER_04]: in multiple conversations you had with Rob O'Neill over the past year and a half, how did you describe that his head kind of exploded? 00:32.432 --> 00:32.772 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 00:33.032 --> 00:37.154 [SPEAKER_05]: I actually hit him three times, so I shot him twice when he was standing and once I was doing it. 00:37.214 --> 00:38.815 [SPEAKER_06]: That is the fucking American man. 00:38.835 --> 00:39.755 [UNKNOWN]: He's the one who got there. 00:40.096 --> 00:43.717 [SPEAKER_05]: We are not going for fame, and we are not going for bravado. 00:44.557 --> 00:54.502 [SPEAKER_05]: We are going for the single mom who dropped her kids off at elementary school on a Tuesday morning, and then 45 minutes later, she jumped toward death out of a skyscraper. 00:55.258 --> 00:58.181 [SPEAKER_01]: your need help, hang up, and then die your operator. 00:58.682 --> 01:08.873 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm Rob O'Neill, and this is the Operator Podcast. 01:11.256 --> 01:13.398 [SPEAKER_05]: What is up, this is Robert J. O'Neill. 01:14.757 --> 01:30.348 [SPEAKER_05]: host of the operator podcast former seal theme six operators today is to be a fun one too I took last I didn't take last week off we just ran a couple of issues with a lot of travel and whatnot so We didn't really support cast but the good news is we are today. 01:31.068 --> 01:40.235 [SPEAKER_05]: I am going to interview Scott Oates former seal team to operator we went through buzzer on the same time in the early 90s pre 911 which is a trip 01:41.353 --> 01:58.369 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's kind of where, when I talk about now the younger generation, how you could join the military and start a brand new life going on an adventure, that's what Scott and I did at a time where there wasn't a war looming. 01:58.449 --> 01:59.550 [SPEAKER_05]: Now there's always war. 02:00.812 --> 02:01.512 [SPEAKER_05]: Get used to it. 02:02.833 --> 02:05.976 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to get into that now because we have a lot of talk to with Scott Oates. 02:06.887 --> 02:13.991 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, at a time when there wasn't a war and why guys went in and then what we did there at the team because it was more of a, it was more workout centric. 02:14.011 --> 02:28.319 [SPEAKER_05]: We had things like a super frog triathlon and we had timed, timed events and seal teams like you do like a circle PT and a base run on Monday, time swim on Tuesday, oh, courses and time run wins. 02:28.359 --> 02:35.563 [SPEAKER_05]: Everything was timed and they would post the top ten and shit and like, you know, guys could brag it, hot tune on Wednesday night or when they go down to the ocean front on, 02:36.775 --> 03:02.597 [SPEAKER_05]: Friday about how fast they are on the obstacle course now big their dicks are until we started getting shot at them a lot of guys stop being Navy SEALs it started being other stuff now but it was it was it was a different time and then we also how stuff changes that's important really to the stuff that's changed now but the whole point was being in the Navy before 9-11 and and the way it just just a good good conversation we went overseas together on the U.S. 03:05.299 --> 03:33.008 [SPEAKER_05]: uh... he's a big jiu-jitsu guy now especially he's a fourth degree black belt and and Brazilian jiu-jitsu which which i'm told is really good but at the time like he was around when it started uh... he uh... he it's Clint Emerson he's another one of our guys navy seal operative uh... he got it he got a minute jiu-jitsu and this isn't the early nineties like right when the ufc started so he was uh... on the austen i was i was actually going around the ship bedding 03:35.035 --> 03:45.047 [SPEAKER_05]: Sailors that I got a guy that can beat anyone because I I had seen jujitsu I've been doing jujitsu at the time with Scott in the early nineties a blue belt in jujitsu at the time You're gonna fuck anybody up man. 03:45.067 --> 03:48.871 [SPEAKER_05]: You're straight up a Bad ass 03:49.861 --> 03:50.722 [SPEAKER_05]: Jonah Hill type. 03:50.842 --> 03:51.743 [SPEAKER_05]: I will fuck you up. 03:52.383 --> 03:56.667 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I went around betting he got a fight with his huge due to a big guy that they kept in a boat and lost crazy fight. 03:56.687 --> 04:01.310 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, uh, uh, and then I, I'll let him tell his stories to shit like that. 04:01.350 --> 04:05.474 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, uh, what we're doing now with the operas collected with a picks protocol. 04:05.494 --> 04:06.254 [SPEAKER_05]: And there's still time. 04:06.474 --> 04:09.397 [SPEAKER_05]: There's still time to get out there shooting in Vegas. 04:09.637 --> 04:10.518 [SPEAKER_05]: F1 racing. 04:10.538 --> 04:11.218 [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be a hood. 04:11.238 --> 04:12.599 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a three and half four day thing. 04:12.619 --> 04:12.880 [SPEAKER_05]: Two days. 04:12.940 --> 04:15.161 [SPEAKER_05]: It's to got a ranch dragon rich golf course. 04:16.205 --> 04:17.445 [SPEAKER_05]: Scott will be the teaching combatants. 04:17.465 --> 04:19.366 [SPEAKER_05]: We have a kick-ass combatants program. 04:19.386 --> 04:21.667 [SPEAKER_05]: He and Danielle Martin, Danielle's another black belt. 04:22.127 --> 04:31.971 [SPEAKER_05]: And I like having Danielle there too, because it proves you that when Danielle used to tap out team guys out in the West Coast, young guys, right out of the bud, just young seals they get pissed off. 04:32.011 --> 04:34.211 [SPEAKER_05]: And I always remember her saying, look, you didn't lose to a girl. 04:34.251 --> 04:35.332 [SPEAKER_05]: You lost to a black belt. 04:35.792 --> 04:36.492 [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking get over it. 04:36.532 --> 04:37.472 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's how she would tell to you. 04:37.512 --> 04:38.933 [SPEAKER_05]: And then she could beat you up again if she wanted to. 04:39.433 --> 04:42.254 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, she and Scott will be teaching our combatives. 04:42.594 --> 04:55.100 [SPEAKER_05]: And we want to get an ideally three hour course of instruction for people because you're not going to be a judicial practitioner and MMA fighter with three hours of training, but the way we've designed it, the way we are putting it, is nobody wants to fight a monkey with a screwdriver. 04:55.180 --> 04:56.281 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what we're teaching. 04:56.301 --> 04:57.021 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's pretty dope. 04:57.421 --> 04:59.042 [SPEAKER_05]: But this is going to be Scott Oach right now. 04:59.262 --> 05:01.083 [SPEAKER_05]: This is the operator pod, Cas, and I hope you enjoy it. 05:01.103 --> 05:02.263 [SPEAKER_05]: Let me know what you think, cheers. 05:02.684 --> 05:05.785 [SPEAKER_05]: And here we are, and action in the operator pod, Cas. 05:05.805 --> 05:07.346 [SPEAKER_05]: With Scott Oach, we did talk, 05:08.126 --> 05:23.134 [SPEAKER_05]: briefly here in New York a few months ago, but I said once I get off my lazy ass and build a studio and here we are, here we are, here we are in New York once again and we get, we get a continue because we, I mean for people who weren't watching, we were at Seal theme 2 together as well. 05:23.154 --> 05:25.075 [SPEAKER_05]: We, you and I met, but you went through Buds before me. 05:25.275 --> 05:26.236 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just a little bit. 05:26.456 --> 05:27.036 [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, what were you? 05:27.136 --> 05:28.797 [SPEAKER_06]: I was 2 a year or 2 a 5 to a 5 yeah. 05:29.177 --> 05:29.838 [SPEAKER_05]: Isn't that funny though? 05:29.878 --> 05:47.938 [SPEAKER_05]: You can be our age in a late 30s right now and I think but like Late but it's like whatever I think back and it's how we look put a bud's class I would think if like 206 to a five I got guys and each one of those classes two away And obviously two of us think it's like four or fifty now or it's not it's like three something No, it's a I don't know we got to find we got to find it. 05:47.958 --> 05:48.980 [SPEAKER_05]: We're getting corrected right now. 05:49.120 --> 05:49.240 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah 05:49.360 --> 05:50.701 [SPEAKER_06]: because we're taping to someone's listening. 05:50.741 --> 05:53.003 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, and somebody's, somebody's back checking it. 05:53.303 --> 05:54.244 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, absolutely what it is. 05:54.284 --> 05:58.708 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, because why, why does it cover why the Navy first? 05:59.229 --> 05:59.529 [SPEAKER_06]: Why what? 05:59.549 --> 06:00.229 [SPEAKER_06]: Why did you join the Navy? 06:01.030 --> 06:01.971 [SPEAKER_06]: Why did I join the Navy? 06:02.151 --> 06:05.634 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, so I went to a university Colorado after high school. 06:05.814 --> 06:09.577 [SPEAKER_06]: I went straight into college and wanted to play, 06:10.602 --> 06:15.625 [SPEAKER_06]: football, wanted to walk on and I was big, I love football, love football. 06:15.645 --> 06:16.145 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, position. 06:16.525 --> 06:26.731 [SPEAKER_06]: I played cornerback and I played quarterback and cornerback, but cornerback was my position of high school, and eventually it was what I wanted to do. 06:26.891 --> 06:32.114 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was, you know, fast for a white kid and four, five, 40, which was okay. 06:32.134 --> 06:32.534 [SPEAKER_06]: That's fast. 06:32.634 --> 06:33.675 [SPEAKER_05]: Now, I mean for a white kid. 06:33.715 --> 06:35.075 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's for a white kid. 06:35.095 --> 06:35.736 [SPEAKER_05]: Definitely. 06:35.756 --> 06:36.676 [SPEAKER_05]: You play corner in college. 06:36.716 --> 06:37.177 [SPEAKER_05]: That's my eye. 06:37.237 --> 06:38.157 [SPEAKER_05]: I could not run in there. 06:38.177 --> 06:38.677 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no. 06:38.757 --> 06:41.079 [SPEAKER_06]: So, but that's what I wanted to do. 06:42.019 --> 06:42.700 [SPEAKER_06]: But I was tiny. 06:43.000 --> 06:43.460 [SPEAKER_06]: I was a little. 06:43.680 --> 06:45.381 [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't a big kid. 06:45.421 --> 06:47.923 [SPEAKER_06]: I was 180 pounds maybe. 06:47.963 --> 06:54.667 [SPEAKER_06]: Corner though, but still, again, five, 11 on my, in my high heels. 06:55.987 --> 06:57.369 [SPEAKER_05]: I did my cleat for some reason. 06:57.449 --> 07:01.272 [SPEAKER_06]: In my cleats on on cement, maybe I was five a leather. 07:01.292 --> 07:02.133 [SPEAKER_06]: There you go. 07:02.173 --> 07:02.873 [SPEAKER_06]: With the apple. 07:03.034 --> 07:04.074 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, with the apple. 07:04.155 --> 07:09.839 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was thinking of a weird highlight where Chad Ocho Sinko, who's the bot that size receiver, if you heard that story about it. 07:09.859 --> 07:12.302 [SPEAKER_05]: There was a, was it the one where you tried to block Ray Lewis? 07:12.422 --> 07:14.464 [SPEAKER_06]: That's one of the best Ocho Sinko stories. 07:14.484 --> 07:16.305 [SPEAKER_06]: The one he tells on this Steven A. Smith. 07:16.325 --> 07:17.006 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we're telling. 07:17.566 --> 07:18.467 [SPEAKER_06]: I have heard that story. 07:18.747 --> 07:19.428 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's awesome. 07:19.748 --> 07:22.391 [SPEAKER_06]: I can't I just remember it was awesome it's so funny. 07:22.571 --> 07:25.053 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I just want to try to just speak in the size of football. 07:25.073 --> 07:32.960 [SPEAKER_05]: She tried to do a hit rate try to block Ray Lewis and He had knocked the wind out of him and Ray Lewis didn't even notice but that's what I was thinking. 07:32.980 --> 07:34.542 [SPEAKER_05]: You think that a big guy's like, well, yeah, but you're put. 07:34.642 --> 07:34.862 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 07:35.102 --> 07:35.363 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 07:35.383 --> 07:35.683 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 07:35.843 --> 07:37.004 [SPEAKER_05]: I got to hear my mind. 07:37.044 --> 07:37.365 [SPEAKER_05]: Not there. 07:37.465 --> 07:38.946 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, just a good story. 07:38.966 --> 07:42.810 [SPEAKER_06]: He's telling this telling the story about how he got a penis enlargement. 07:43.735 --> 07:52.379 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I love this and he's telling the story to Steven A. Steven's just trying not to laugh And he's like, yeah, man, we were, you know, we were an action. 07:52.499 --> 07:55.200 [SPEAKER_06]: That's what he called we were an action this girl and she's like 07:56.446 --> 08:05.909 [SPEAKER_06]: who deeper, and he's like, he's like, but I was, I was already as deeper as he did. 08:06.009 --> 08:07.690 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, I was already in. 08:08.150 --> 08:16.673 [SPEAKER_06]: He was like, and Steven is laughing his ass off, but it's like, she wanted Ocho, and he only had to think that. 08:19.835 --> 08:22.217 [SPEAKER_05]: I think after that, but I didn't know he had to search for me. 08:22.657 --> 08:24.618 [SPEAKER_06]: So if you had to search, what do you do with that? 08:24.638 --> 08:27.080 [SPEAKER_06]: Correct me, I don't know that to be a fact, because I didn't know. 08:27.120 --> 08:32.243 [SPEAKER_06]: No, because I don't hear all the whole podcast, but I hurt all those things. 08:32.303 --> 08:34.745 [SPEAKER_06]: That was the story, a bunch of amazing things. 08:34.785 --> 08:36.106 [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't want to know, too. 08:36.846 --> 08:48.518 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we were in action, it's so funny, it's so funny, but Steven is myth and the good is just laughing his ass off I forget where we're going with that football, but yeah, so I was in Colorado. 08:48.558 --> 08:54.764 [SPEAKER_06]: I wanted to play football and and you know what's big enough I they wanted Ocho and I only yeah 08:55.985 --> 09:02.329 [SPEAKER_06]: So, so I had a really good buddy and you may know, Bear Johnson. 09:02.349 --> 09:03.189 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, of course, you know, Bear. 09:03.249 --> 09:03.449 [SPEAKER_06]: I do. 09:03.550 --> 09:03.790 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 09:03.830 --> 09:09.153 [SPEAKER_06]: So his brother, I went to high school with his brother and so, really. 09:09.573 --> 09:09.833 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 09:09.893 --> 09:21.000 [SPEAKER_06]: So we were really good friends and going through high school and so, I had, you know, I'd known, Bear and I had gone through, gone through, but recently, yeah, just as we were 09:25.102 --> 09:27.584 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I was there. 09:28.184 --> 09:30.285 [SPEAKER_06]: Football was not panning out for me. 09:31.526 --> 09:35.389 [SPEAKER_06]: I went for the for the first year, came back a second second year. 09:35.949 --> 09:40.432 [SPEAKER_06]: I was in my first semester and, you know, my grades were. 09:41.493 --> 09:43.114 [SPEAKER_06]: I was skiing all the time. 09:43.174 --> 09:46.176 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I guess, you know, you know, the veil pass, the whole thing. 09:46.496 --> 09:52.120 [SPEAKER_06]: Students at that conference at Boulder got a veil pass for 180 bucks for the season. 09:53.065 --> 09:55.166 [SPEAKER_06]: So, they want kids to go to class? 09:55.186 --> 09:55.587 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh. 09:55.747 --> 09:56.327 [SPEAKER_06]: It was insane. 09:56.387 --> 09:56.927 [SPEAKER_06]: It was the best. 09:57.188 --> 09:58.148 [SPEAKER_06]: I skeed every day. 09:58.749 --> 10:01.450 [SPEAKER_06]: But I was also taking this, these classes, you know? 10:01.550 --> 10:19.482 [SPEAKER_06]: And if you've ever been to Boulder, Boulder, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder's, Boulder 10:21.843 --> 10:28.906 [SPEAKER_06]: you know, every every stereotype you think of and then the progressive side as well, which yeah, both as one of them. 10:29.086 --> 10:41.111 [SPEAKER_06]: I had an instructor a professor and I was in this class and just just bashing the United States, bashing bashing bashing, like, you know, where the worst country blah blah blah, we do all this negative shit. 10:41.151 --> 10:43.953 [SPEAKER_06]: But I can't even remember, but it was just it was so 10:45.419 --> 10:45.900 [SPEAKER_06]: negative. 10:46.060 --> 10:47.942 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, man, why are you here? 10:48.322 --> 10:50.364 [SPEAKER_06]: If you don't like it, why are you here? 10:50.884 --> 10:51.745 [SPEAKER_06]: It's a question. 10:51.765 --> 11:00.353 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was just like, you know, if you've got some place that you'd rather be, tell me what it is, because there's no country better than the United States. 11:00.373 --> 11:01.834 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I would ask if you'd been out of the United States. 11:01.914 --> 11:02.375 [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. 11:02.555 --> 11:02.935 [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. 11:02.955 --> 11:05.137 [SPEAKER_06]: So are you going to leave or are you going to go somewhere else? 11:05.177 --> 11:10.182 [SPEAKER_06]: Because if you're not, then either make it better or shut the fuck up. 11:10.722 --> 11:19.330 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I left that class and I was like, this place just unfortunately is not for me. 11:19.771 --> 11:25.396 [SPEAKER_06]: Went down to the registrar and I pulled myself out of out of school and finished this 11:35.591 --> 11:42.015 [SPEAKER_06]: finished paying off the semester's tuition, which was at that point, not performable. 11:42.415 --> 11:43.776 [SPEAKER_06]: And how did that happen? 11:43.956 --> 11:45.677 [SPEAKER_06]: How did I do it a week before? 11:45.717 --> 11:47.818 [SPEAKER_06]: They probably could have gotten part of their money back. 11:47.898 --> 11:49.699 [SPEAKER_06]: And so they were not pleased with me. 11:49.719 --> 11:59.045 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, well, so my plan is, you know, I'm gonna stay here and, you know, I'm gonna be here for the winner and then I'll come home and then I'm gonna join the Navy and go to Buds. 11:59.525 --> 12:02.607 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're like, the fuck you are, you bring your hat down. 12:02.867 --> 12:03.528 [SPEAKER_06]: You're gonna work. 12:04.188 --> 12:04.928 [SPEAKER_06]: And then you run it. 12:04.968 --> 12:07.230 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and you didn't even get a little that right. 12:07.470 --> 12:09.211 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, no, they were not pleased. 12:09.291 --> 12:10.011 [SPEAKER_06]: They were there. 12:10.071 --> 12:11.092 [SPEAKER_06]: They were my dad was so. 12:11.112 --> 12:13.273 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he was so mad at me. 12:14.013 --> 12:24.558 [SPEAKER_06]: And anyway, so I came out and you know, I really did want to go be a seal, but I didn't want to go in the Navy unless I could ensure that I was going to be a very free. 12:24.978 --> 12:31.142 [SPEAKER_06]: So I wanted to go talk to different people, make sure that if I did enlist that I could go to bots. 12:31.182 --> 12:31.962 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, smart. 12:32.242 --> 12:35.006 [SPEAKER_06]: So found a, found a program called the die fair program. 12:35.026 --> 12:36.007 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, six year program. 12:36.167 --> 12:36.928 [SPEAKER_05]: I, let's see. 12:36.948 --> 12:38.150 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, to be a corpsman. 12:38.630 --> 12:39.551 [SPEAKER_05]: I got out of that book camp. 12:39.611 --> 12:40.573 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll talk about that later. 12:40.853 --> 12:44.037 [SPEAKER_06]: But you can go through Buds, go directly to Buds, right? 12:44.077 --> 12:44.678 [SPEAKER_06]: After course school. 12:44.698 --> 12:44.798 [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. 12:45.178 --> 12:46.059 [SPEAKER_06]: Actually met Clint. 12:47.072 --> 12:49.834 [SPEAKER_06]: Emerson, you know, I know Clint Emerson. 12:49.874 --> 12:56.880 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't Clint Emerson back then, but, but we'll keep that off of you. 12:56.900 --> 13:00.062 [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, no, but so I met him there and we went through course school together. 13:00.082 --> 13:01.043 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I met him. 13:01.063 --> 13:01.723 [SPEAKER_06]: He's an excellent guy. 13:01.743 --> 13:02.884 [SPEAKER_06]: Got me into freaking digital. 13:02.904 --> 13:05.926 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and that's what he said about whole thing, how that spiraled out of control. 13:05.966 --> 13:06.667 [SPEAKER_05]: That was good. 13:06.807 --> 13:11.351 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I know that I know I've told him that, but just recently, because I'm a student in 30 years. 13:11.691 --> 13:13.432 [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, we went to, went to, went to, 13:14.693 --> 13:22.704 [SPEAKER_06]: A school, a culminate school together, drove out to San Diego together from Corridor, drove the Corrano across country, picked him up in Houston. 13:22.724 --> 13:25.607 [SPEAKER_06]: He was living a Houston at the time, and we drove all the way across. 13:25.627 --> 13:27.190 [SPEAKER_06]: It was an awesome experience. 13:28.337 --> 13:32.640 [SPEAKER_06]: And then I went to Buds and he ended up finishing with 203. 13:32.700 --> 13:39.545 [SPEAKER_06]: I got hurt, shin splints, stress fractures in both legs and ended up getting rolled after second phase. 13:39.585 --> 13:45.429 [SPEAKER_06]: I went through first and second phase, actually classed up with 204, went through hell week and second phase with 204, and then finished. 13:45.489 --> 13:46.050 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 13:46.130 --> 13:51.874 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to mention names because I don't have permission, but was there rumors of a chouisel near that era? 13:52.967 --> 13:56.450 [SPEAKER_05]: That's in front of those very famous frog men. 13:56.471 --> 13:57.892 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like you heard it, but you can't see. 13:57.932 --> 14:00.555 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if he's one of his name name. 14:00.575 --> 14:01.295 [SPEAKER_05]: He was amazing. 14:01.996 --> 14:05.419 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if we were doing a jump at Team 2. 14:06.741 --> 14:09.283 [SPEAKER_05]: None of us even had our gold wings yet. 14:09.403 --> 14:11.025 [SPEAKER_05]: And we had Shipley Collin Wind. 14:11.566 --> 14:15.730 [SPEAKER_05]: And I remember the saying, we got knees in the breeze and knees in the trees. 14:17.711 --> 14:24.933 [SPEAKER_06]: I think I don't think that there was any rules as far as what well there were rules They were just in fall. 14:24.953 --> 14:27.774 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, the choice was good in the water, but not in the land. 14:27.834 --> 14:29.394 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Yeah, that was a guy that went to bud. 14:29.434 --> 14:30.334 [SPEAKER_05]: He was to a five. 14:30.354 --> 14:30.794 [SPEAKER_06]: You wasn't it. 14:32.095 --> 14:35.135 [SPEAKER_06]: I can't remember I've been hitting the head so many times. 14:35.195 --> 14:36.976 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I interrupted you totally too. 14:36.996 --> 14:37.476 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know 14:38.576 --> 14:47.659 [SPEAKER_05]: But then that's then course goal though because when I when we were at boot camp and they send you to this the second floor of whatever that building and you go to course school, I just went to another one. 14:47.879 --> 14:48.059 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 14:48.159 --> 14:49.679 [SPEAKER_05]: I said hey, how long is this one? 14:49.699 --> 14:51.920 [SPEAKER_05]: What's two weeks and going to say, can I be a PR? 14:52.560 --> 14:53.300 [SPEAKER_05]: And you still got to go. 14:53.320 --> 14:54.421 [SPEAKER_05]: I figured here's what I figured. 14:55.161 --> 14:57.682 [SPEAKER_05]: I think instructors are lazy and they're stupid. 14:57.902 --> 14:59.882 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and I think if I just just true. 14:59.902 --> 15:01.803 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and personally we're back on that that's true. 15:02.043 --> 15:02.403 [SPEAKER_06]: However, 15:03.184 --> 15:04.085 [SPEAKER_06]: That was a big risk. 15:04.105 --> 15:04.765 [SPEAKER_06]: Huge risk, no way. 15:04.785 --> 15:05.726 [SPEAKER_05]: Because then you might not get butts. 15:05.746 --> 15:06.686 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly. 15:06.927 --> 15:08.628 [SPEAKER_05]: I just had a head in under way. 15:09.328 --> 15:10.749 [SPEAKER_05]: How different will my life have been? 15:11.270 --> 15:11.970 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, a little bit. 15:12.831 --> 15:14.212 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I can just picture my fat wife. 15:14.272 --> 15:16.093 [SPEAKER_05]: I think, I think, totally. 15:16.793 --> 15:18.194 [SPEAKER_05]: I think you'd get back though. 15:18.334 --> 15:20.036 [SPEAKER_06]: I think you'd get back through it. 15:20.076 --> 15:22.177 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, I don't think that's bad. 15:22.257 --> 15:25.219 [SPEAKER_05]: Because most guys that came from the fleet did better. 15:25.479 --> 15:25.700 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 15:25.980 --> 15:27.061 [SPEAKER_05]: Because it's a cocky fucker. 15:27.081 --> 15:27.761 [SPEAKER_05]: I can do pulls. 15:27.781 --> 15:28.181 [SPEAKER_05]: I go to the fleet. 15:28.201 --> 15:28.441 [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever. 15:28.702 --> 15:28.942 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 15:29.302 --> 15:30.463 [SPEAKER_05]: You get to go learn how to use bacon. 15:30.603 --> 15:31.264 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, no. 15:31.384 --> 15:34.527 [SPEAKER_05]: So you didn't have that at your back, so you went to Core School, and that's in over that one, Texas? 15:34.888 --> 15:36.389 [SPEAKER_06]: No, that was in Great Lakes, wasn't it? 15:36.409 --> 15:40.013 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we went there, and then we had like, I don't know, do you know Steve McHendry? 15:41.085 --> 15:48.249 [SPEAKER_06]: Dude, he was a already a seal, came back and actually was in our, our course school. 15:48.269 --> 15:48.950 [SPEAKER_06]: That's last. 15:48.990 --> 15:49.770 [SPEAKER_06]: Did he have a good time? 15:49.950 --> 15:52.051 [SPEAKER_06]: Dude, this dude, what a beast. 15:52.412 --> 16:00.816 [SPEAKER_06]: This guy brought us to the frickin' grinder whatever it was that they had in the course school. 16:00.856 --> 16:04.358 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, every morning at, like, well, so he was a legit, legit one in the course. 16:04.458 --> 16:04.879 [SPEAKER_05]: That's good. 16:05.479 --> 16:06.540 [SPEAKER_05]: And we would do these works. 16:06.560 --> 16:06.860 [SPEAKER_05]: Good for him. 16:07.460 --> 16:08.460 [SPEAKER_06]: We would do these workouts. 16:08.640 --> 16:10.741 [SPEAKER_06]: We had like 20 guys, and I think that's cool. 16:10.761 --> 16:13.462 [SPEAKER_06]: I think a good amount of them made it through Just because they was prepping. 16:13.742 --> 16:15.422 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh Because I was laughing. 16:15.482 --> 16:21.504 [SPEAKER_06]: He beat us till we bled and then beat us for bleeding It was so bad, but he was nice about it, but it was me or baby. 16:21.704 --> 16:22.605 [SPEAKER_06]: He's one of my mentors. 16:22.665 --> 16:26.586 [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's bad Yeah, cuz normally going through like see daddy something with the 16:27.406 --> 16:31.348 [SPEAKER_05]: with a tried-in on normally it's yeah and he would drink whiskey until five one. 16:31.548 --> 16:39.752 [SPEAKER_06]: He was he was a monster but such a cool guy and then so we we he did that and then the group of us we all went out there together. 16:40.192 --> 16:41.613 [SPEAKER_06]: No that's cool because it's super cool. 16:41.633 --> 16:46.356 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think you got rid of a fear factor that people might have had of bugs just doing with the sealer? 16:46.416 --> 16:50.157 [SPEAKER_06]: I think you can it's really hard to 16:51.338 --> 16:53.880 [SPEAKER_06]: prep somebody for the mental aspect of buds. 16:54.040 --> 16:54.260 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 16:54.420 --> 16:58.083 [SPEAKER_06]: What it's not hard to do is prep somebody for the physical aspect. 16:58.123 --> 16:58.784 [SPEAKER_06]: It's a good point. 16:58.904 --> 17:03.607 [SPEAKER_06]: Super super easy to get them to do push-ups swim, run, all BS. 17:04.188 --> 17:05.269 [SPEAKER_06]: All that stuff is easy. 17:05.409 --> 17:08.731 [SPEAKER_06]: It's the the hard part is that it's not parasolid. 17:08.811 --> 17:10.673 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not dudes yelling at you soon. 17:13.386 --> 17:19.170 [SPEAKER_06]: It's, man, I know you guys are hot out of this fucking suit, but can you hear the air sea? 17:19.210 --> 17:25.175 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's like actually cold in this vehicle and I'm like, and these donuts are, man, I can't eat them all. 17:25.275 --> 17:27.497 [SPEAKER_06]: You guys don't want to come back here and get in the truck. 17:27.597 --> 17:28.358 [SPEAKER_06]: It's so easy. 17:28.378 --> 17:29.438 [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, listen, guys. 17:29.599 --> 17:30.179 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not for you. 17:30.299 --> 17:30.879 [SPEAKER_05]: everybody. 17:30.899 --> 17:32.940 [SPEAKER_05]: This course is not forever. 17:33.020 --> 17:36.861 [SPEAKER_05]: If you put right now, I will, I'll call you shipmates. 17:36.961 --> 17:38.982 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't mind you, you're niche in the name. 17:39.122 --> 17:41.903 [SPEAKER_06]: No one, no one is going to feel bad. 17:42.183 --> 17:44.184 [SPEAKER_06]: No one's going to think any less of you. 17:44.544 --> 17:45.804 [SPEAKER_06]: It's totally cool to go with him. 17:45.864 --> 17:47.205 [SPEAKER_05]: It just make it easy to quit. 17:47.225 --> 17:48.285 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give you a warm shower. 17:48.485 --> 17:48.745 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 17:48.785 --> 17:49.226 [SPEAKER_05]: Right now. 17:49.346 --> 17:49.566 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 17:49.866 --> 17:50.126 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 17:50.906 --> 17:53.467 [SPEAKER_06]: And so because it's so easy to quit. 17:53.767 --> 17:54.748 [SPEAKER_05]: It's, yeah. 17:54.808 --> 17:56.768 [SPEAKER_05]: I tell you that. 17:57.048 --> 17:59.189 [SPEAKER_06]: There was a, and you just have to shut that out. 17:59.329 --> 18:02.350 [SPEAKER_05]: There was a dude that, um, the rollback before hell week. 18:02.370 --> 18:03.511 [SPEAKER_05]: So the rollbacks are all smart guys. 18:03.531 --> 18:07.212 [SPEAKER_05]: They know everything and that you want to tell students, like there's going to be guys that know what all the fucking post is. 18:07.252 --> 18:07.492 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 18:07.732 --> 18:08.173 [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of them. 18:08.413 --> 18:10.013 [SPEAKER_05]: So there's one guy loud and all those bullshit. 18:10.273 --> 18:11.314 [SPEAKER_05]: We're getting ready to start hell week. 18:11.334 --> 18:12.514 [SPEAKER_05]: We're in the tent before breakout. 18:12.534 --> 18:13.755 [SPEAKER_05]: Like the only fun part of hell week. 18:13.835 --> 18:13.995 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 18:14.155 --> 18:15.255 [SPEAKER_05]: And he starts telling me how scared he is. 18:15.275 --> 18:15.475 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like. 18:15.915 --> 18:17.436 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, dude, at least quit after breakout. 18:17.456 --> 18:18.196 [SPEAKER_05]: Like we do the fun part. 18:18.216 --> 18:18.396 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 18:20.077 --> 18:21.117 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you're doing it yourself. 18:21.137 --> 18:22.298 [SPEAKER_06]: Why do you even get here? 18:22.518 --> 18:23.378 [SPEAKER_06]: Why do you even get here? 18:23.458 --> 18:27.459 [SPEAKER_06]: If that's, if you, obviously he didn't have any idea of what was going to happen. 18:27.499 --> 18:40.022 [SPEAKER_06]: But I tell people, I tell people, I tell people, if anybody can go through buds, if they have the right, just your frame of mind and they can actually put themselves in a place where they're not going to quit. 18:40.062 --> 18:41.442 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, you know, compartmentalizing. 18:41.562 --> 18:42.662 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, compartmentalizing. 18:42.682 --> 18:43.383 [SPEAKER_06]: You can make it through. 18:43.823 --> 18:45.723 [SPEAKER_06]: There are dudes that don't know how to swim. 18:49.444 --> 18:49.985 [SPEAKER_06]: You're an alert. 18:50.065 --> 18:53.831 [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many seals that there are a lot of seals that don't, did you know? 18:53.871 --> 18:54.411 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I didn't. 18:54.432 --> 19:01.182 [SPEAKER_05]: They, they, they team me with Monty Sherrods who was from Southern California in a surfer and they knew if they just said if you look at him and try to fin. 19:01.662 --> 19:01.863 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 19:01.883 --> 19:02.484 [SPEAKER_05]: Just watch him. 19:02.544 --> 19:02.764 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 19:02.924 --> 19:03.445 [SPEAKER_05]: You can do it. 19:03.645 --> 19:03.846 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 19:03.886 --> 19:05.047 [SPEAKER_05]: If my fat ass can do it. 19:05.148 --> 19:05.368 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 19:05.408 --> 19:05.908 [SPEAKER_05]: You could do it. 19:05.928 --> 19:06.488 [SPEAKER_06]: But you learn. 19:06.809 --> 19:07.309 [SPEAKER_06]: You learn. 19:07.369 --> 19:08.109 [SPEAKER_06]: You go learn. 19:08.469 --> 19:09.070 [SPEAKER_06]: You're going to learn. 19:09.090 --> 19:09.650 [SPEAKER_06]: You're going to learn. 19:10.070 --> 19:12.111 [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to learn. 19:12.331 --> 19:13.331 [SPEAKER_05]: Tom Donovan helped me out. 19:13.391 --> 19:14.132 [SPEAKER_05]: I've told that story before. 19:14.152 --> 19:15.752 [SPEAKER_05]: He's definitely one now. 19:15.772 --> 19:16.313 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm up at two star. 19:16.793 --> 19:21.775 [SPEAKER_05]: But just bumping into him and seeing an Anson and me being stupid thinking, well, you're an Anson. 19:21.795 --> 19:22.175 [SPEAKER_05]: You're in charge. 19:22.195 --> 19:23.076 [SPEAKER_05]: You must be really scared. 19:23.096 --> 19:24.436 [SPEAKER_05]: And he was a cab. 19:24.496 --> 19:25.337 [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking water pool. 19:25.477 --> 19:28.158 [SPEAKER_05]: And he literally goes, what specifically are you for? 19:28.718 --> 19:30.840 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, they're, they're not afraid of. 19:31.220 --> 19:31.680 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm afraid. 19:32.081 --> 19:36.664 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, here's, well, here's the thing, and they're going to make it suck for everyone. 19:36.744 --> 19:39.006 [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't matter who you are, whether you're a triathlete. 19:39.086 --> 19:44.330 [SPEAKER_06]: I remember we had a triathlete in our class equipped within the first hour of hell week. 19:45.003 --> 19:58.088 [SPEAKER_06]: That, you know, we were running down, we would run down these soft sand runs and they would make him do circles around the pack, like he would have to do circles in the past because he was so fast and he could just run forever. 19:58.388 --> 19:58.908 [SPEAKER_06]: How do you quit? 19:59.308 --> 19:59.688 [SPEAKER_06]: How do you quit? 19:59.708 --> 20:00.548 [SPEAKER_06]: This is easy for you. 20:00.869 --> 20:05.850 [SPEAKER_06]: But it's going to everyone, everyone gets tested, everyone gets, they find your button and they push it. 20:06.370 --> 20:10.332 [SPEAKER_06]: And if they push your button enough times, you're going to quit. 20:14.186 --> 20:15.688 [SPEAKER_06]: I would, unless you get hurt, right? 20:15.728 --> 20:16.369 [SPEAKER_05]: Purple horse, yeah. 20:16.409 --> 20:17.069 [SPEAKER_05]: That you can't do anything. 20:17.089 --> 20:31.346 [SPEAKER_05]: Or you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off. 20:31.386 --> 20:33.328 [SPEAKER_05]: That you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail. 20:33.348 --> 20:35.230 [SPEAKER_05]: That you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail and that you fall off the tail 20:35.350 --> 20:50.066 [SPEAKER_06]: The one thing I learned in Buds is not to be a Quitter, and so I think that has fared me well through anything and everything that I've done to include Jiu Jitsu, but and even even not drinking anymore. 20:50.386 --> 20:52.427 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24:45.318 --> 24:51.885 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I know my wife listening right now, she's uh, yeah, but I'm not a Quitter stop stop stop. 24:51.965 --> 24:52.785 [SPEAKER_05]: I stopped drink. 24:52.926 --> 24:53.766 [SPEAKER_05]: I stopped to it. 24:53.786 --> 24:55.088 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm indifferent with it now. 24:55.128 --> 24:57.991 [SPEAKER_05]: I had the help of I began, but I had to stop it was time. 24:58.211 --> 25:01.094 [SPEAKER_06]: I did two years of it's been two years now. 25:01.114 --> 25:03.436 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just a little over two years. 25:03.917 --> 25:05.638 [SPEAKER_06]: My wife saved my life seriously. 25:05.919 --> 25:08.481 [SPEAKER_06]: I had a really bad. 25:09.522 --> 25:18.464 [SPEAKER_06]: bad, bad of, of, of, not mean alcoholism, not blizzard, but just every day drowning myself in a bottle. 25:18.604 --> 25:22.865 [SPEAKER_05]: The issue I think is someone with your skill set. 25:23.525 --> 25:27.406 [SPEAKER_05]: If you got angry and were black out drunk, you could really fuck some people up and that would be bad. 25:27.606 --> 25:32.907 [SPEAKER_05]: Could you imagine, though, like people with drunk, you're having to wake up in a cell and you're there for, what if you fuck somebody up? 25:33.107 --> 25:33.347 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 25:33.607 --> 25:33.807 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 25:34.222 --> 25:36.263 [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's got to be in your mind, because you can't. 25:36.663 --> 25:37.463 [SPEAKER_06]: No, exactly. 25:37.683 --> 25:46.365 [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, she just looked at me and she was just like, Scott, I don't want to grow old with a drunk. 25:47.046 --> 25:48.046 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, that's awesome. 25:48.286 --> 25:50.467 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, at some point she was like, you know, 25:52.287 --> 25:54.368 [SPEAKER_06]: You smell like a like a drunk. 25:54.468 --> 25:55.789 [SPEAKER_06]: I even when you're not drinking. 25:55.909 --> 26:03.312 [SPEAKER_06]: I can smell I've heard the saying that this is like a I don't want that so I told her I was gonna stop right and I told her I said I said okay. 26:03.352 --> 26:10.595 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna stop and As far as she knew I did but I would go and I would teach you to do it night night go 26:11.758 --> 26:23.163 [SPEAKER_06]: I'd go to the gym and I train and I do all the things and I teach and then and then before I'd go home, I'd go to a seven lemon, I'd get two of those fricking, you know, Modello came in, instead of like the big dog. 26:23.183 --> 26:24.104 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the big dog, right? 26:24.284 --> 26:30.727 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'd fricking pound those before I get home and and one, you know, and then I'd just go in and pretend like I wasn't drinking anymore. 26:31.007 --> 26:31.968 [SPEAKER_06]: And you can smell it though. 26:32.368 --> 26:37.170 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, so, so I was eating, I would love peanut butter, 26:42.500 --> 26:47.327 [SPEAKER_06]: drinking and I was like, no, no, no, no, you know, it was lying to her, lying. 26:48.388 --> 26:50.831 [SPEAKER_06]: And so, yeah, blatantly lying. 26:50.911 --> 26:51.192 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 26:51.232 --> 26:52.033 [SPEAKER_05]: That's yeah. 26:52.333 --> 26:53.334 [SPEAKER_05]: So it should be an indicator. 26:53.415 --> 26:53.815 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 26:54.055 --> 26:56.619 [SPEAKER_06]: But I didn't, it didn't indicate me there. 26:56.659 --> 26:57.500 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm fooling everybody. 26:57.620 --> 26:57.980 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 26:58.380 --> 27:00.321 [SPEAKER_06]: So then I go, um, I go on a trip. 27:00.701 --> 27:10.945 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I get this phone call and she's I rate and she had found a can in my car that I had forgotten to throw out like an idiot. 27:11.506 --> 27:12.426 [SPEAKER_06]: I forgot to throw it out. 27:12.446 --> 27:13.346 [SPEAKER_06]: She found an empty can. 27:13.386 --> 27:14.767 [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, what the fuck? 27:15.487 --> 27:17.708 [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, I thought you, I thought you said you stopped drinking. 27:18.268 --> 27:19.629 [SPEAKER_06]: You've been lying to me. 27:20.269 --> 27:21.950 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, honey, you know, 27:27.452 --> 27:28.632 [SPEAKER_05]: You're the line to me about this. 27:28.973 --> 27:30.513 [SPEAKER_05]: What else do you line me cheating on me? 27:30.533 --> 27:32.194 [SPEAKER_05]: She's not able to not make it viral. 27:32.254 --> 27:32.994 [SPEAKER_05]: She's not wrong though. 27:33.214 --> 27:33.754 [SPEAKER_06]: It's viral. 27:33.775 --> 27:33.995 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:34.015 --> 27:34.415 [SPEAKER_06]: She's not. 27:34.795 --> 27:35.295 [SPEAKER_06]: She's not right. 27:35.695 --> 27:36.536 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, she's not wrong. 27:36.596 --> 27:37.896 [SPEAKER_06]: It was it was out of control. 27:37.996 --> 27:41.417 [SPEAKER_06]: And so she kept she's like, I mean, literally for two, three weeks. 27:41.437 --> 27:42.258 [SPEAKER_06]: She hounded me. 27:42.938 --> 27:46.619 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, oh my gosh, is this ever going to end or you ever going to get over this? 27:46.759 --> 27:52.220 [SPEAKER_06]: And I said, it's not just because I lied about that doesn't mean that I would, you know, lie to you about other things. 27:52.340 --> 27:53.240 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just different. 27:53.960 --> 27:55.300 [SPEAKER_06]: And but it wasn't. 27:55.601 --> 27:58.081 [SPEAKER_06]: And I've never cheated on my wife and never will. 27:58.621 --> 28:02.242 [SPEAKER_06]: But it was, it was that was where she was going. 28:02.282 --> 28:04.022 [SPEAKER_05]: You got to figure it from her mindset. 28:04.042 --> 28:04.562 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the creep. 28:04.722 --> 28:06.543 [SPEAKER_05]: Like what he's that one little thing. 28:06.703 --> 28:07.863 [SPEAKER_06]: The doors a little open was behind. 28:08.063 --> 28:08.243 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 28:08.263 --> 28:08.743 [SPEAKER_06]: I can say that. 28:08.883 --> 28:09.263 [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. 28:09.644 --> 28:10.644 [SPEAKER_06]: So that's crazy. 28:10.844 --> 28:19.167 [SPEAKER_06]: So we're driving to the airport and I was going to go teach a class and we're driving to the airport and she said. 28:19.187 --> 28:19.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 28:19.787 --> 28:22.008 [SPEAKER_06]: This is ever going to stop and I'm just thinking to myself. 28:22.048 --> 28:31.452 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like as soon as I get out of this car, I'm getting not wait to get out of the car, get through security and I'm going straight to the bar and I'm going to have a drink and when I do, I'm going to feel so much better. 28:31.552 --> 28:34.133 [SPEAKER_06]: And then I start thinking to myself, wait a minute. 28:35.728 --> 28:45.514 [SPEAKER_06]: If she asked me whether I had to ask me and I'm not going to tell her that I had a drink and my answer to myself was, yeah, I'm going to lie to her again. 28:46.495 --> 28:50.977 [SPEAKER_06]: So in that moment, I realized that I was just like what in the world. 28:51.017 --> 28:52.238 [SPEAKER_06]: So I turned her and I was like. 28:54.960 --> 28:55.940 [SPEAKER_06]: This just went through my head. 28:56.160 --> 28:57.241 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just went through my brain. 28:57.661 --> 28:59.983 [SPEAKER_06]: I just was sitting here listening to you just. 29:00.724 --> 29:07.471 [SPEAKER_06]: come at me and I thought to myself, I'm going to go through security. 29:07.491 --> 29:15.180 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go to the bar, I'm going to saddle up, I'm going to have a drink and then when you ask me, whether I'm going to, whether I had a drink, I'm going to lie to you again. 29:16.221 --> 29:17.042 [SPEAKER_06]: And I just realized, 29:19.721 --> 29:25.264 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm freaking out like, and I literally, in that moment, I started crying. 29:25.364 --> 29:28.786 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, it was, it was like powerful, it was emotional. 29:28.886 --> 29:32.809 [SPEAKER_06]: I could say all that is, and it's a power, it's, it's emotional to me now. 29:32.829 --> 29:33.329 [SPEAKER_05]: It should be. 29:33.549 --> 29:34.169 [SPEAKER_06]: That's huge. 29:34.330 --> 29:38.572 [SPEAKER_06]: She, and she didn't get mad, she didn't yell. 29:39.292 --> 29:39.973 [SPEAKER_06]: She started crying. 29:40.033 --> 29:41.154 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's some honesty though. 29:41.234 --> 29:42.054 [SPEAKER_06]: And she hugged me. 29:42.234 --> 29:43.615 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, she was like, I love you. 29:45.142 --> 29:56.803 [SPEAKER_06]: We'll do this together and we did and so she's like, listen, if you have to have a drink for whatever reason, just try to do it with me. 29:57.829 --> 30:00.172 [SPEAKER_06]: But if if something happens, tell me immediately. 30:00.532 --> 30:01.854 [SPEAKER_06]: Just tell me immediately. 30:01.974 --> 30:02.394 [SPEAKER_06]: That's fair. 30:03.035 --> 30:07.180 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I did and I didn't drink after that. 30:07.780 --> 30:12.506 [SPEAKER_06]: But there were several times where I was in a place where I wanted to drink really bad. 30:13.067 --> 30:16.791 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I would go to the bar and I'd sit down at the bar and I'd eat. 30:17.972 --> 30:24.918 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'd order, like I'm looking at these tall, frothy beers and I'm like, Oh, I won't want it so bad. 30:24.999 --> 30:25.839 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, okay, okay. 30:25.979 --> 30:29.182 [SPEAKER_06]: I can, like, oh my gosh, like, the crave was real. 30:29.202 --> 30:34.367 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it was like, like, like, jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 30:38.851 --> 30:53.915 [SPEAKER_06]: So I ordered a salsa water or a soda water, and it would just have just enough bite that it would kind of just that that I needed, you know, and the thirst and the, but it was, it wasn't water, which tasted like pissed to me. 30:54.275 --> 31:04.037 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, when you're, when you're an alcoholic, water tastes like water just for worse than you know, but salsa water or soda water just really was, you know, got me through, right? 31:04.197 --> 31:06.778 [SPEAKER_06]: And so, and then, and then after that, the craving went away. 31:06.798 --> 31:07.438 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, holy shit. 31:07.458 --> 31:07.978 [SPEAKER_06]: That's all so 31:09.178 --> 31:17.182 [SPEAKER_06]: So it was kind of like I figured out this way to get through the through that craving and so I called her immediately I was like I wanted a drink so bad. 31:17.202 --> 31:18.303 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's a break. 31:18.363 --> 31:19.483 [SPEAKER_06]: It was a huge breakthrough. 31:19.584 --> 31:24.146 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but because you started talking about that that tall for Authicillians. 31:24.566 --> 31:30.469 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm all of a sudden on PR 30 new is a flop apple bees on a painted apple bees chili I was at a chilies. 31:30.489 --> 31:31.289 [SPEAKER_06]: That's when this happened. 31:31.309 --> 31:31.930 [SPEAKER_06]: It was a chilies. 31:31.970 --> 31:34.891 [SPEAKER_06]: That was like that flush is lagging. 31:35.191 --> 31:36.112 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, yeah 31:36.692 --> 31:39.395 [SPEAKER_05]: How's it now, does this so I'm in different tool, but how do I'm in different. 31:39.415 --> 31:47.942 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's just but seriously I tell her every you saved my life that I love because I was when you told her that and she listened 31:49.129 --> 31:51.831 [SPEAKER_05]: And then she, but what you're doing there is you're turning a page like that. 31:51.851 --> 31:52.952 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, this is exactly. 31:52.992 --> 31:55.494 [SPEAKER_05]: Now our life is because there's so many different muscles. 31:55.514 --> 31:56.055 [SPEAKER_05]: Here's another one. 31:56.315 --> 31:56.495 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 31:56.595 --> 31:58.657 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's so huge because you're saying, no, I mean, that's awesome. 31:58.897 --> 31:59.618 [SPEAKER_05]: I can relate to it. 31:59.678 --> 32:01.560 [SPEAKER_05]: I get emotional too because it's so funny. 32:01.680 --> 32:05.823 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like, oh, so the entire time you can hear my flipers sprinting to where I hit the vodka. 32:05.923 --> 32:06.223 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 32:06.904 --> 32:08.726 [SPEAKER_05]: But then, but then to, hey, this is an issue. 32:09.186 --> 32:09.987 [SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to, that's cool. 32:10.147 --> 32:10.667 [SPEAKER_05]: That's so cool. 32:10.827 --> 32:12.409 [SPEAKER_05]: And to have her on board because it's killing her. 32:13.597 --> 32:16.098 [SPEAKER_06]: With my wife, you know, she even said to me, she's like, I still drink. 32:16.118 --> 32:17.619 [SPEAKER_06]: Do you want me to not drink? 32:17.639 --> 32:18.180 [SPEAKER_05]: That's all I just can say. 32:18.460 --> 32:20.141 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, no, no, you're a good girl. 32:20.301 --> 32:21.341 [SPEAKER_06]: Do your thing. 32:21.361 --> 32:22.202 [SPEAKER_06]: Do whatever you want. 32:22.462 --> 32:23.162 [SPEAKER_06]: I need to stop. 32:23.182 --> 32:24.543 [SPEAKER_06]: This is my problem, not yours. 32:24.843 --> 32:26.444 [SPEAKER_06]: However, I appreciate you asking. 32:26.484 --> 32:27.985 [SPEAKER_06]: But it's a part of it. 32:28.045 --> 32:29.726 [SPEAKER_06]: I need to be able to deal with that. 32:29.926 --> 32:35.409 [SPEAKER_06]: I need to be able to deal with other people in the room and not have the social pressure of drinking too. 32:37.590 --> 32:41.753 [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody's there the people that say peer pressure is a thing in that regard. 32:41.913 --> 32:50.358 [SPEAKER_05]: I really I I never really experienced what I found is If they offer you a trick and you say no, they assume you have a reason they don't follow up with it. 32:50.398 --> 32:54.680 [SPEAKER_06]: Like yeah That's so most people if it's that situation. 32:55.021 --> 32:57.142 [SPEAKER_06]: I tell them no, I stopped 32:57.442 --> 32:58.503 [SPEAKER_05]: I had a dude come up to me. 32:58.523 --> 33:01.945 [SPEAKER_05]: He was actually a Ryan Garcia strength coach. 33:02.365 --> 33:02.725 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 33:02.746 --> 33:03.786 [SPEAKER_05]: We read a thing and they actually flew. 33:03.806 --> 33:04.667 [SPEAKER_05]: I met him in Baltimore. 33:05.027 --> 33:05.787 [SPEAKER_05]: We're all going to dinner. 33:05.988 --> 33:06.588 [SPEAKER_05]: Mack energy thing. 33:07.068 --> 33:10.611 [SPEAKER_05]: And they took a private jet and this is way before like a right arm. 33:10.691 --> 33:12.012 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to talk about his fight because we're taping. 33:12.032 --> 33:12.312 [SPEAKER_05]: But, uh, 33:13.412 --> 33:15.412 [SPEAKER_05]: way before, so they were all drinking on the flat out. 33:15.432 --> 33:17.833 [SPEAKER_05]: Except the strength of which wasn't sober for like 15 years. 33:17.953 --> 33:18.113 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:18.213 --> 33:20.933 [SPEAKER_05]: They land, I show up and they're all, we came over to me and meet it. 33:20.953 --> 33:21.594 [SPEAKER_05]: We didn't know each other. 33:21.834 --> 33:23.214 [SPEAKER_05]: And he just asked me how long have you been sober? 33:23.494 --> 33:24.134 [SPEAKER_05]: He could just tell. 33:24.474 --> 33:26.454 [SPEAKER_05]: Like you could, you like look around. 33:26.634 --> 33:26.814 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:26.834 --> 33:28.595 [SPEAKER_05]: That's some sort of kind of, this is cool. 33:28.855 --> 33:29.015 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:29.175 --> 33:41.237 [SPEAKER_05]: And when I, my third time on I began when you take it, you stare at the mirror and it was waiting for the medicine to hit my, my reflection in the mirror looked at me and said, we're going to keep doing this until we admit one of us is the problem. 33:42.037 --> 33:42.437 [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go. 33:42.798 --> 33:43.038 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:43.138 --> 33:43.358 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 33:43.518 --> 33:48.001 [SPEAKER_05]: But I think what you get to that point where it's indifferent is huge, but it's a relationship. 33:48.201 --> 33:48.381 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:48.441 --> 33:49.582 [SPEAKER_05]: Because my wife can drink wine. 33:50.042 --> 33:50.222 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 33:50.402 --> 33:51.243 [SPEAKER_05]: I end up in the hospital. 33:51.503 --> 33:51.663 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:51.803 --> 33:52.444 [SPEAKER_05]: Or a mug shot. 33:52.644 --> 33:52.864 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:53.685 --> 33:53.865 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 33:53.965 --> 33:55.206 [SPEAKER_06]: Did you get kicked off in the airline? 33:55.846 --> 33:56.987 [SPEAKER_05]: That wasn't for drinking. 33:58.868 --> 34:01.950 [SPEAKER_05]: I was asked to take a later flight on a one for drinking. 34:02.430 --> 34:06.933 [SPEAKER_05]: And then I was for a tweet I was I was politely told as a million miles. 34:06.953 --> 34:09.015 [SPEAKER_06]: I was no longer allowed on Delta-Fucking Airlines. 34:09.035 --> 34:09.395 [SPEAKER_06]: He's easy. 34:10.209 --> 34:12.052 [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't gonna name the name of that was them. 34:12.072 --> 34:14.377 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's coming up and then why did you back? 34:14.517 --> 34:15.038 [SPEAKER_05]: No, 25 years. 34:15.079 --> 34:16.141 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm still in the no-fly list. 34:16.782 --> 34:18.666 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not gonna play that one. 34:18.786 --> 34:19.147 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm good. 34:19.167 --> 34:19.808 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm good. 34:20.189 --> 34:20.770 [SPEAKER_06]: You're good. 34:23.343 --> 34:24.004 [SPEAKER_05]: how to million miles. 34:24.164 --> 34:27.268 [SPEAKER_05]: They still send me Christmas gifts to a million mile or I. 34:27.588 --> 34:31.673 [SPEAKER_06]: They could save a lot of money if they just quit sending me a set of bookends every should just every once in a while. 34:32.133 --> 34:33.795 [SPEAKER_06]: Book a ticket to see if it'll go through. 34:33.855 --> 34:34.496 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't cancel. 34:34.536 --> 34:38.461 [SPEAKER_06]: No, the way it works is it works until you try to check in for your flight. 34:38.621 --> 34:40.143 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you could buy it all day long. 34:40.343 --> 34:40.623 [SPEAKER_06]: Really? 34:40.703 --> 34:41.423 [SPEAKER_06]: So I saw trying. 34:41.443 --> 34:42.544 [SPEAKER_06]: Do they give you your money back? 34:42.584 --> 34:43.244 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't know. 34:43.444 --> 34:51.547 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, this has been a couple of years now because it was the height of the ridiculous government run Cyop where they would see if we would fall the rules and then the lock ourselves in. 34:51.567 --> 34:58.809 [SPEAKER_06]: You mean the, the, the, the COVID, the run of iron, the COVID, the COVID, the COVID, the COVID, the Chinese, the Chinese, COVID. 34:59.009 --> 35:02.190 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, well, I did the reason I, I took a, China. 35:02.230 --> 35:03.971 [SPEAKER_05]: How funny would that first start to come out? 35:04.551 --> 35:10.413 [SPEAKER_05]: right around Tiger King when we were all getting along so well that was like the but for everyone we were all having fun. 35:10.633 --> 35:12.413 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, Joe Exotic, man. 35:12.553 --> 35:12.833 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 35:12.853 --> 35:13.553 [SPEAKER_05]: Where were you going to put it? 35:14.574 --> 35:15.014 [SPEAKER_05]: I was going home. 35:15.394 --> 35:15.554 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 35:15.734 --> 35:16.334 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 35:16.514 --> 35:17.194 [SPEAKER_05]: We moved to tell. 35:17.214 --> 35:23.176 [SPEAKER_06]: So wait, wait, wait, no, so so we were actually we went to we went to Valteran. 35:23.776 --> 35:24.236 [SPEAKER_06]: for Christmas. 35:25.997 --> 35:31.900 [SPEAKER_06]: The all the kids sicker and VV are my youngest and they're 12 and 10 now. 35:32.240 --> 35:35.822 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, but at the time it was 2019 and so do the math. 35:35.982 --> 35:37.143 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't have that in the past. 35:37.163 --> 35:37.963 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you can. 35:38.144 --> 35:41.605 [SPEAKER_06]: You just you guys can shot it down shot it down to figure out. 35:41.986 --> 35:47.568 [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, they were young, but we put them in class in France and it was the best thing ever. 35:47.608 --> 35:48.629 [SPEAKER_06]: You drop off it at 830. 35:50.670 --> 35:52.171 [SPEAKER_06]: all the equipment, all around us, everything. 35:52.371 --> 35:58.536 [SPEAKER_06]: And for five days straight from nine in the morning until three in the afternoon, they skied with an instructor. 35:58.556 --> 35:59.517 [SPEAKER_06]: That's so every day. 35:59.557 --> 36:00.218 [SPEAKER_06]: It was amazing. 36:00.878 --> 36:02.359 [SPEAKER_06]: And we could go do whatever we wanted. 36:02.920 --> 36:05.041 [SPEAKER_06]: This is pre-right pre-COVID. 36:05.322 --> 36:06.883 [SPEAKER_06]: And my wife, I shouldn't have said come. 36:07.103 --> 36:07.783 [SPEAKER_06]: really sick. 36:08.764 --> 36:13.026 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, she was in in the like couldn't even go out. 36:13.266 --> 36:15.607 [SPEAKER_06]: She was, well, she thinks she did. 36:15.988 --> 36:19.830 [SPEAKER_06]: It was all the same symptoms, but she was, did she hold down? 36:19.850 --> 36:22.011 [SPEAKER_05]: COVID no strong enough for a thousand. 36:22.231 --> 36:23.671 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, no, no, no, she whipped it right away. 36:23.732 --> 36:27.273 [SPEAKER_06]: But, but she was like, it was, it was bad, right? 36:29.014 --> 36:34.458 [SPEAKER_06]: But anyway, that was 2019 and then fast forward a couple months was you know walk down. 36:34.478 --> 36:44.645 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, lock down So yeah, we moved to Tennessee and we moved from New York so we went from Highly liberal to they didn't know what to do you were in Nashville. 36:44.665 --> 36:52.190 [SPEAKER_05]: We moved in Nashville Yeah, well because I'm like a lucky unlucky guy I just happened to buy a house for no reason and then we moved in COVID hit so you can't leave New York We're just stuck in Tennessee 36:52.990 --> 36:58.812 [SPEAKER_05]: So we just figured in Tennessee that, okay, we don't want to not write in the same golf course, so everyone can't touch the flight. 36:58.832 --> 37:00.033 [SPEAKER_05]: That's our COVID in Tennessee. 37:00.633 --> 37:03.974 [SPEAKER_06]: Everyone else up here was, so you were in Nashville for COVID. 37:03.994 --> 37:04.154 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 37:04.234 --> 37:06.015 [SPEAKER_05]: And so that's probably what I would fly back. 37:06.095 --> 37:07.155 [SPEAKER_05]: I kept the place in New York. 37:07.175 --> 37:08.696 [SPEAKER_05]: I would fly back and we would circle the again. 37:08.716 --> 37:09.116 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, where are you? 37:09.136 --> 37:11.497 [SPEAKER_05]: And you could look down and watch everyone shooting fireworks each other. 37:11.897 --> 37:12.137 [SPEAKER_06]: Really. 37:12.177 --> 37:14.080 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not like they would go outside to shoot each other. 37:14.100 --> 37:23.832 [SPEAKER_06]: You remember with the people singing from the no one leaves a house and crazy time fly over the top, but so did you you lived in Nashville for how long we said it for two years and you didn't like Nashville. 37:23.972 --> 37:24.713 [SPEAKER_05]: I liked it. 37:24.773 --> 37:27.317 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it was just it just seemed like well, it's COVID. 37:27.537 --> 37:28.158 [SPEAKER_06]: So it's not fair. 37:28.678 --> 37:42.027 [SPEAKER_05]: uh... it was getting asked for was getting a little dirtier and it's a music town very demonic uh... everyone trying to step over each other to make it big in the music industry you're in a city where if you go to denies the person serving is the best guitar player never met yes but like if 37:43.585 --> 37:48.849 [SPEAKER_05]: If you're not S and the D, you're not getting the sign that the bottom line, like you got to play the fucking game, we're talking Hollywood, which it except with music. 37:49.069 --> 37:50.010 [SPEAKER_05]: It's pretty bad. 37:50.470 --> 37:57.215 [SPEAKER_06]: So we've been toying with moving to Nashville and with my daughter. 37:57.315 --> 37:58.376 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, she's incredible. 37:58.616 --> 38:01.118 [SPEAKER_06]: And the singing thing is just blowing up. 38:01.358 --> 38:03.080 [SPEAKER_06]: And so that's where all the good. 38:03.300 --> 38:07.043 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there's all the good people, all the good stuff. 38:07.083 --> 38:08.123 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it is there. 38:08.184 --> 38:12.127 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just, if you're, if you don't have the right structure, would you do? 38:12.947 --> 38:14.168 [SPEAKER_05]: It can it can eat you alive. 38:14.309 --> 38:14.509 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 38:14.649 --> 38:21.456 [SPEAKER_05]: You just see batch and even to the point where they know it's getting like because we always it's a city so I have a little mayor So that don't give a shit about crime a lot of these from Memphis roll up. 38:21.476 --> 38:23.778 [SPEAKER_05]: They wait for two-third in the morning Do's roll up knock them out. 38:23.818 --> 38:24.399 [SPEAKER_05]: Take their watch. 38:25.060 --> 38:27.082 [SPEAKER_05]: I bet friends wake up in in the ambulance because it's only 38:29.424 --> 38:33.486 [SPEAKER_06]: But this is like Broadway at two in the morning, but we, so you'll be fine. 38:33.746 --> 38:35.067 [SPEAKER_06]: No, we've been going there quite a bit. 38:35.087 --> 38:36.728 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't, I'm not worried about you. 38:36.948 --> 38:38.869 [SPEAKER_05]: I would actually go and tell the gang back as fuck with him. 38:39.829 --> 38:40.890 [SPEAKER_05]: I brought the camera. 38:40.910 --> 38:41.990 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't worry about the lining. 38:42.010 --> 38:44.272 [SPEAKER_05]: I got that too. 38:44.572 --> 38:49.354 [SPEAKER_05]: No, but with the music industry, if you don't play a lot of the game, because just like in that's a problem. 38:49.374 --> 38:53.837 [SPEAKER_06]: We don't know the game and she's like, you know, she's 10 years old. 38:54.717 --> 38:56.859 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, that would be way different. 38:57.179 --> 38:59.181 [SPEAKER_05]: That we can, we'll talk about that. 38:59.201 --> 39:00.923 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's, that's, we'll make instructions there. 39:01.023 --> 39:01.223 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 39:01.283 --> 39:07.809 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying, if you're rolling as my buddy Tim Montana's, I'll get an example, he came from Mut Montana, plays outstanding. 39:08.329 --> 39:10.411 [SPEAKER_05]: He owns the Wiser of a Club of Billy Gibson's, he taught us. 39:10.591 --> 39:15.436 [SPEAKER_05]: But he wouldn't do the, that one thing you need to do to break into the series XM, which is, 39:16.428 --> 39:18.589 [SPEAKER_05]: whatever that dude wants you to do with them really. 39:18.629 --> 39:20.869 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that kind of shit, yeah. 39:21.049 --> 39:21.309 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 39:21.490 --> 39:23.770 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's one thing that we're not gonna have a problem. 39:23.810 --> 39:24.390 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I know that. 39:24.430 --> 39:25.151 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I was saying. 39:25.231 --> 39:28.572 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying it was seem to be turning into like a town that I didn't really care for. 39:28.592 --> 39:33.033 [SPEAKER_05]: And then I also started to realize it's, I think I like New York because they're honest. 39:33.393 --> 39:34.794 [SPEAKER_05]: They seem rude, but they're honest. 39:35.314 --> 39:38.075 [SPEAKER_05]: Southern hospitality is a really nice way you could be a dick to someone. 39:38.375 --> 39:41.696 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but politics and well politics is nowhere. 39:41.836 --> 39:42.996 [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. 39:43.236 --> 39:45.237 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm at the point now where if voting matter, 39:46.874 --> 39:47.254 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. 39:47.274 --> 39:49.375 [SPEAKER_06]: So, but then again, and some people shouldn't. 39:49.515 --> 39:50.576 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you got to figure though. 39:50.676 --> 39:51.897 [SPEAKER_05]: I like Florida's better taxis. 39:51.917 --> 39:53.197 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't like the weather as much as I do. 39:53.257 --> 39:54.378 [SPEAKER_05]: I like this season's a new year. 39:54.418 --> 39:56.999 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, I love So you got to do take to go with the bed. 39:57.019 --> 40:05.064 [SPEAKER_06]: You're gonna get, well, yeah, but you have a house in House in Florida and a house in Vietnam, which switch, switch them up, you know, you get both Best of both worlds. 40:05.084 --> 40:08.165 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like that that was that joke to one of the, one of the budget jokes. 40:08.185 --> 40:08.585 [SPEAKER_05]: What are you doing? 40:08.605 --> 40:11.127 [SPEAKER_05]: I got a thumb in my mouth and a thumb in my ass playing switch. 40:14.029 --> 40:21.594 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so but okay, what are we're off on the drinking thing, but I wanted to talk just briefly because we checked in the CLT and two together I want to talk about the USS Austin one more time. 40:21.694 --> 40:22.094 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh. 40:22.134 --> 40:24.215 [SPEAKER_05]: We briefly touched on those are for our first putton. 40:24.495 --> 40:30.739 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it was it was a great great trip and Did you do was you know really 40:32.320 --> 40:36.363 [SPEAKER_06]: Just barely barely hitting hitting the main stream. 40:36.383 --> 40:40.606 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it wasn't even mainstream It was just barely hitting the United States. 40:40.646 --> 40:44.909 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I've alluded to it was like right before deployment We got on the side of fat daddy. 40:44.989 --> 40:50.872 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, many yeah, we had a few of us that knew jujitsu and some people that did not float We did some of us didn't know jujitsu. 40:50.892 --> 40:52.554 [SPEAKER_06]: We knew enough new a move 40:53.334 --> 40:56.917 [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, it called a rear naked choke and that rear naked choke worked on everyone. 40:57.018 --> 40:59.320 [SPEAKER_06]: Everyone took us to nobody knew what the fuck it was. 40:59.360 --> 41:00.161 [SPEAKER_06]: It was amazing. 41:00.281 --> 41:00.841 [SPEAKER_06]: It was amazing. 41:00.881 --> 41:03.023 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, look at all these people that are just falling out. 41:03.063 --> 41:06.386 [SPEAKER_05]: If you're mud sucks on one, they don't see you coming and you put them in a rear naked choke. 41:06.467 --> 41:08.068 [SPEAKER_06]: You win every time. 41:08.208 --> 41:09.650 [SPEAKER_05]: I got thrown in the top part. 41:09.770 --> 41:12.212 [SPEAKER_06]: It had to put place people down on their back gym. 41:12.252 --> 41:13.353 [SPEAKER_05]: I think just some jumps. 41:13.673 --> 41:14.454 [SPEAKER_05]: So they don't. 41:14.694 --> 41:16.196 [SPEAKER_05]: So they don't hit their head when they're off. 41:17.817 --> 41:26.644 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I got put in it because everyone was there and I got put in a paddy wagon or you know a cop car because that couldn't get out And they came over and they're like what what what what what what is this guy doing? 41:26.664 --> 41:29.526 [SPEAKER_05]: I said, oh, I saw a fight and I ran and the other couples we got was a fuzzy go. 41:29.646 --> 41:36.912 [SPEAKER_06]: You know how that happened right that whole fight I don't recall so so you're in my wedding I do one of my groomsmen. 41:36.972 --> 41:41.075 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and For not everybody knows that but anyway, so we were 41:43.136 --> 41:44.537 [SPEAKER_06]: My best man Craig. 41:44.758 --> 41:55.427 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it was I guess six five Boston, you know, just every every every stereotypical Bostonian that you know he was wearing this. 41:55.467 --> 41:57.328 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yeah, exactly. 41:57.589 --> 41:57.889 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 41:58.029 --> 42:01.051 [SPEAKER_06]: So he and my other body Evan were walking across the street. 42:01.132 --> 42:05.455 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, this car comes closed dangerously close to them as they're walking across the street. 42:05.976 --> 42:10.740 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember exactly what he did, but I think he freaking through his freaking beer cup down on the 42:11.280 --> 42:19.602 [SPEAKER_06]: Good, you know, gets into a fight with, you know, these guys get out of the car and now it's on, right? 42:19.622 --> 42:29.225 [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, he started this shit, you know, and he's he's like, okay, and so it's him and Evan versus these other two dudes and it just pops off, right? 42:29.365 --> 42:32.966 [SPEAKER_06]: And so next thing, you know, everything's happening. 42:33.966 --> 42:36.687 [SPEAKER_06]: Craig somehow finds his way onto the ground. 42:36.727 --> 42:44.670 [SPEAKER_06]: He's laying down on the ground and he looks up and he's looking for heaven and he all he sees is heaven just running away, running away from the fight. 42:45.451 --> 42:46.651 [SPEAKER_06]: And so Craig's there. 42:46.731 --> 42:48.032 [SPEAKER_06]: That's what the hell is. 42:48.052 --> 42:48.792 [SPEAKER_06]: What the fuck? 42:49.232 --> 42:49.873 [SPEAKER_06]: Where's he going? 42:50.453 --> 42:56.380 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, next thing you know, to, to, to, to, to, to all these people, all of us, I do remember to start pilot out of it. 42:56.460 --> 42:58.382 [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't there because we were somewhere else. 42:58.702 --> 43:03.808 [SPEAKER_06]: But all the boys come out and just it was just a melee, like everything was crazy. 43:04.348 --> 43:06.450 [SPEAKER_06]: But Craig did the stage like, I haven't heard them. 43:06.751 --> 43:07.411 [SPEAKER_06]: What the hell, man? 43:07.431 --> 43:08.152 [SPEAKER_06]: You were running away. 43:08.192 --> 43:08.513 [SPEAKER_06]: You suck. 43:08.533 --> 43:09.454 [SPEAKER_06]: I was going to get help. 43:10.014 --> 43:10.915 [SPEAKER_06]: It's like we have room for the. 43:10.935 --> 43:11.875 [SPEAKER_06]: We had for the seal team. 43:11.895 --> 43:12.336 [SPEAKER_06]: Two with us. 43:12.356 --> 43:13.797 [SPEAKER_06]: We had to get the boys. 43:14.337 --> 43:15.998 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just insane. 43:16.038 --> 43:19.301 [SPEAKER_05]: Boots just said to the seal team for just I remember him running out. 43:19.321 --> 43:20.642 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, yeah, I just started punching people. 43:20.662 --> 43:21.082 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know. 43:21.142 --> 43:22.022 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 43:22.123 --> 43:25.405 [SPEAKER_06]: And you're just like, I tried this nice new move that I just learned. 43:25.445 --> 43:26.486 [SPEAKER_06]: I just learned that day. 43:26.566 --> 43:28.207 [SPEAKER_06]: I think I think everybody's got to tell me that. 43:28.647 --> 43:32.849 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I like the way you said it, you know, nobody knew you'd just if we just knew him joke so much seriously. 43:32.889 --> 43:34.910 [SPEAKER_06]: I was, because I was 99, seven or eight. 43:34.930 --> 43:36.050 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was a blue belt. 43:36.290 --> 43:36.551 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 43:36.591 --> 43:41.513 [SPEAKER_06]: So back then a blue belt was, oh, you know, it was a one eye man and see the blind. 43:42.153 --> 43:45.655 [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, seriously, you could do anything. 43:45.735 --> 43:50.857 [SPEAKER_06]: You could, people didn't do it any back then the day you're just knocking people like Jonah Hill. 43:51.157 --> 43:52.718 [SPEAKER_06]: No, it was easy. 43:53.358 --> 43:55.339 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, totally like Jonah Hill. 43:58.040 --> 44:00.122 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I wasn't trying to be smart at all, you're right. 44:00.182 --> 44:01.022 [SPEAKER_06]: He's probably blue-bill. 44:01.122 --> 44:01.322 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 44:01.342 --> 44:02.023 [SPEAKER_06]: You'll fuck you up. 44:02.043 --> 44:02.383 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 44:02.763 --> 44:03.904 [SPEAKER_06]: If you don't want to share, that's okay. 44:03.924 --> 44:08.347 [SPEAKER_06]: But if you don't want to share, but if you was a blue-bill back in the 90s, you're going to win even more, even more. 44:08.487 --> 44:08.987 [SPEAKER_06]: It was insane. 44:09.547 --> 44:10.148 [SPEAKER_06]: It was insane. 44:10.288 --> 44:12.369 [SPEAKER_06]: It was a weird, weird time. 44:12.409 --> 44:16.172 [SPEAKER_06]: And so when we went on the USS, because that was a precursor, because I was started placing bets. 44:16.372 --> 44:16.552 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 44:16.952 --> 44:29.417 [SPEAKER_05]: Because this new superpower, you definitely could beat up that 900 pound BM that I just, I just, I think you, I don't even know this dude was God knows how, but everything you're six, eight, six, he was a monster. 44:29.437 --> 44:30.538 [SPEAKER_06]: He was a monster. 44:30.578 --> 44:31.578 [SPEAKER_06]: He was a monster. 44:31.818 --> 44:31.998 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 44:32.018 --> 44:32.738 [SPEAKER_06]: And you found him. 44:32.919 --> 44:34.119 [SPEAKER_06]: I know what he was seeing him. 44:34.139 --> 44:35.780 [SPEAKER_06]: We'd been on the street for several weeks. 44:35.800 --> 44:36.920 [SPEAKER_06]: He was lifting the ship up. 44:36.940 --> 44:40.522 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we didn't see him ever, but he pulled him out of the engine room. 44:40.562 --> 44:44.203 [SPEAKER_06]: I did, like, the barrels of the freaking ship and brought him up and we had this. 44:44.243 --> 44:46.244 [SPEAKER_05]: But I was talking to you to everybody, so the whole ship showed up. 44:46.304 --> 44:49.487 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because you're gonna win and we brought Matt's on the boat big enough. 44:49.507 --> 44:52.249 [SPEAKER_06]: That's what they were not They were not but he didn't know. 44:52.309 --> 44:53.671 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean there were no rules to that fight. 44:53.691 --> 44:56.173 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, he didn't know He wasn't you trying to win a fight. 44:56.193 --> 45:12.868 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, that would win most fights to tell us what happened Yeah, so he starts swinging and and so we went You had a gun on the ground I don't remember We were on the I don't remember show no you'd have to tell me the story because I got no, I remember Really good because yeah, but I had him in my guard 45:14.070 --> 45:23.722 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and he was literally and I think I had an arm bar or triangle or something or triangle you did whatever He's picking me up and rampage Jackson slamming me on the freaking. 45:23.742 --> 45:24.323 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, a couple. 45:24.363 --> 45:31.332 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's like multiple times just and like just you know And they've just swinging at me because just trying to punch and stuff like that 45:31.952 --> 45:39.318 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, here's a funny show rule, and so, and you know, you're still taking bets on something like that, you're collecting. 45:39.338 --> 46:00.695 [SPEAKER_06]: They're like, they're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're 46:01.752 --> 46:07.815 [SPEAKER_06]: But he went to sleep and and I won the fight you did, but I literally got flown off that. 46:07.975 --> 46:19.901 [SPEAKER_06]: I remember that we had it because you made it back down to the birthing when down in the bridge out of that portal and my arms both arms when I couldn't feel him because we lifted you on the on the stretcher that that that hard core stretcher. 46:19.921 --> 46:24.784 [SPEAKER_05]: You know me lift you through the portal like that and then I went up to the thing they took an 46:27.905 --> 46:43.434 [SPEAKER_06]: And so if they were like, okay, we've got to heal a vacuum off the ship and so they put me on a healer and sent me to Crete and I spent a week or two weeks there or something like that really did, or I think it was just a week. 46:44.094 --> 46:45.755 [SPEAKER_06]: Something like that did it evaluations. 46:45.775 --> 46:49.537 [SPEAKER_06]: They found out they didn't think it was an actual break just a hairline crack or something. 46:49.557 --> 46:49.997 [SPEAKER_06]: Ginger neck. 46:50.278 --> 46:50.638 [SPEAKER_06]: My neck. 46:51.098 --> 47:13.410 [SPEAKER_06]: So they put this neck brace on me and they were like, all right, chip mate, you're back out, you know, and so Carl Smith and myself, we got on a rib and as you guys were moving through the, uh, the, uh, it through what's the straight, the bus first straight and you're going through there and we, we went and met the ship, you know, 47:15.072 --> 47:29.512 [SPEAKER_06]: And I had a neck braze on and we really forgot back on the ship and then I was at and I just we kept going so And eventually I took that shit off obviously when I got on the ship and we kept going but it was it was scary and then you know I they thought I broke my neck 47:30.012 --> 47:34.296 [SPEAKER_06]: And I definitely had a massive concussion, massive concussion. 47:34.316 --> 47:35.617 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember any of it. 47:35.757 --> 47:41.321 [SPEAKER_06]: Honestly, the only reason I remember it is because of the stories that you really told and other people have told me about the event. 47:41.621 --> 47:44.684 [SPEAKER_05]: So, like, that's one of those moments from me where I can picture it right now. 47:44.704 --> 47:46.625 [SPEAKER_05]: I know where we were in between the Connex boxes on the ship. 47:46.645 --> 47:47.766 [SPEAKER_05]: There's American flag above us. 47:47.786 --> 47:51.649 [SPEAKER_06]: But I, to this day, I still have lots of feeling in my arm, my left arm, really. 47:51.689 --> 47:52.210 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah. 47:52.230 --> 47:53.110 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, if you get slammed. 47:53.391 --> 47:54.231 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, it was bad. 47:54.632 --> 47:55.032 [SPEAKER_06]: It was bad. 47:55.112 --> 47:56.733 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I didn't know that it would last that long. 47:56.753 --> 48:00.977 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought you're supposed to choke him out like that had happened all the time when we mud some people. 48:00.997 --> 48:01.958 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you get it pretty good. 48:01.978 --> 48:02.558 [SPEAKER_05]: They just swear. 48:02.598 --> 48:02.959 [SPEAKER_05]: Right away. 48:04.000 --> 48:04.260 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 48:04.540 --> 48:05.841 [SPEAKER_06]: They don't even put a phosphoryl. 48:05.881 --> 48:06.122 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 48:06.142 --> 48:07.102 [SPEAKER_06]: That's easy. 48:07.162 --> 48:08.163 [SPEAKER_06]: Easy as way to win a fight. 48:08.744 --> 48:18.152 [SPEAKER_06]: It was so bad that, you know, we were driving on the street and, you know, for Jimmy Beach and Vanessa, it's some poor, poor, unlucky bastard getting chased by six dudes and she'd be like, 48:18.490 --> 48:19.911 [SPEAKER_05]: Scott, go save that guy. 48:20.471 --> 48:21.352 [SPEAKER_06]: Push me out of the car. 48:21.632 --> 48:22.832 [SPEAKER_06]: Like literally, I'm not kidding. 48:22.852 --> 48:23.373 [SPEAKER_06]: This happens. 48:23.993 --> 48:25.214 [SPEAKER_06]: It's multiple times. 48:25.534 --> 48:25.954 [SPEAKER_06]: Multiple times. 48:25.974 --> 48:26.774 [SPEAKER_06]: Go save that guy. 48:26.814 --> 48:28.035 [SPEAKER_06]: Go save that guy. 48:28.195 --> 48:30.416 [SPEAKER_06]: So we're exactly crazy. 48:30.436 --> 48:30.997 [SPEAKER_06]: What's that guy? 48:31.017 --> 48:32.077 [SPEAKER_06]: I think she wanted to watch me. 48:32.157 --> 48:34.058 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, I mean, that's my problem. 48:34.078 --> 48:38.701 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I don't know, like there's like eight dudes chasing this one kid down this way. 48:38.721 --> 48:39.621 [SPEAKER_06]: Where the hell are you? 48:39.781 --> 48:40.922 [SPEAKER_06]: We're down by the Raven. 48:43.744 --> 48:45.366 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it's there anymore, it's gone now. 48:45.386 --> 48:46.507 [SPEAKER_05]: It was in the movies, it was there for it. 48:46.527 --> 48:56.258 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but anyway, they're running, the stew's running down the street, and these girls are screaming, and they're like, you know, and they're beating the crap out of this kid, and Vanessa pulls over the car. 48:56.278 --> 48:59.481 [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, reaches over, opens the door. 48:59.501 --> 49:00.302 [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, ghosts. 49:01.832 --> 49:04.434 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, okay, so I jump out. 49:04.454 --> 49:05.314 [SPEAKER_06]: So here's a drunk. 49:05.614 --> 49:05.775 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 49:05.835 --> 49:06.355 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, right. 49:06.395 --> 49:06.615 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 49:06.635 --> 49:07.696 [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to go off the street. 49:08.156 --> 49:10.418 [SPEAKER_06]: They're all, they're, they're circle around them. 49:10.438 --> 49:11.678 [SPEAKER_06]: They're beating the crap out of them. 49:11.879 --> 49:14.920 [SPEAKER_06]: I go in and I just snatch a dude up once again. 49:15.001 --> 49:15.341 [SPEAKER_06]: Use my, 49:16.382 --> 49:17.123 [SPEAKER_06]: Best move ever. 49:17.263 --> 49:17.483 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 49:17.503 --> 49:18.123 [SPEAKER_06]: The rare egg yolk. 49:18.163 --> 49:18.784 [SPEAKER_06]: This is real. 49:18.864 --> 49:20.205 [SPEAKER_06]: I do it up into one arm. 49:20.845 --> 49:21.706 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 49:21.726 --> 49:22.967 [SPEAKER_06]: Back myself into the fence. 49:22.987 --> 49:24.808 [SPEAKER_06]: There was like a, there was a fence there. 49:24.848 --> 49:24.988 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 49:25.149 --> 49:26.730 [SPEAKER_06]: And I backed myself up to it. 49:26.850 --> 49:29.492 [SPEAKER_06]: And I have got this dude in a rare egg yolk. 49:29.512 --> 49:29.832 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 49:30.533 --> 49:34.916 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm putting him to sleep as these other dudes are just doing that. 49:34.976 --> 49:35.216 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 49:35.576 --> 49:36.677 [SPEAKER_06]: They're, they're circling me. 49:36.957 --> 49:40.300 [SPEAKER_06]: And the, the dude that was getting his ass beat just gets up and runs. 49:40.540 --> 49:41.121 [SPEAKER_05]: Mother fucker. 49:41.321 --> 49:43.803 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I'm like, I'm standing there. 49:43.823 --> 49:50.948 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're like, and so so I'm standing there and these dudes are screaming like, they're coming at me. 49:50.968 --> 49:55.712 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, you know what, I put that dude to sleep and just toss him. 49:56.172 --> 50:00.936 [SPEAKER_06]: And he's his literally lifeless body just falls to the ground. 50:01.356 --> 50:04.258 [SPEAKER_06]: And dude's like, oh, you should just kill her body. 50:04.298 --> 50:07.421 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, dude, dude, it's just beating the shit out of 50:09.764 --> 50:11.305 [SPEAKER_06]: Back up, right? 50:11.385 --> 50:13.386 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're all like, what the hell, what the hell? 50:13.406 --> 50:14.307 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, they're freaking out. 50:14.367 --> 50:15.087 [SPEAKER_06]: They don't know what to do. 50:15.147 --> 50:16.268 [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm. 50:16.288 --> 50:18.590 [SPEAKER_06]: What is the buddy's just convulsing on the ground? 50:18.690 --> 50:19.670 [SPEAKER_06]: Because he's waking up. 50:19.690 --> 50:19.951 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 50:19.991 --> 50:25.614 [SPEAKER_06]: So he hops, pull around, hops pull up, like, they're right there. 50:25.954 --> 50:29.316 [SPEAKER_06]: They get out just as this dude's waking up, right? 50:30.137 --> 50:33.119 [SPEAKER_06]: And he gets up and the cops are like, what's going on here? 50:33.139 --> 50:37.802 [SPEAKER_06]: And all these dudes start to like point at me and the guy that woke up goes, no, no, 50:39.812 --> 50:40.472 [SPEAKER_05]: The guy you took. 50:40.492 --> 50:41.392 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, respect. 50:41.513 --> 50:42.053 [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't even know. 50:42.253 --> 50:43.773 [SPEAKER_05]: He said, you didn't even know anything to do it. 50:44.233 --> 50:45.114 [SPEAKER_06]: He had no clue. 50:45.214 --> 50:48.375 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I was like... And that's the pulls around. 50:48.575 --> 50:49.115 [SPEAKER_06]: Cars there. 50:49.195 --> 50:50.175 [SPEAKER_06]: I jumped in the front car. 50:50.215 --> 50:50.615 [SPEAKER_06]: We were out. 50:51.796 --> 50:52.656 [SPEAKER_06]: She's got even a fight. 50:53.036 --> 50:53.836 [SPEAKER_06]: She got even a fight. 50:53.856 --> 50:54.376 [SPEAKER_06]: Got me out. 50:54.396 --> 50:54.977 [SPEAKER_06]: Got me a win. 50:55.217 --> 50:56.137 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm out. 50:56.217 --> 50:56.957 [SPEAKER_06]: Pancakes. 50:57.197 --> 50:58.058 [SPEAKER_06]: That wasn't the only time. 50:58.338 --> 50:59.318 [SPEAKER_06]: That wasn't the only time. 50:59.478 --> 51:02.859 [SPEAKER_06]: That's she's on the ship before oh yeah, there's one time. 51:02.879 --> 51:03.480 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you do though? 51:03.500 --> 51:08.341 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the plan though that say 11 news are gonna rush What what will be the plan run or do you I mean? 51:08.361 --> 51:11.143 [SPEAKER_06]: I was gonna use him as a human jail I was gonna use him. 51:11.183 --> 51:12.383 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, do we have that in a wrap all the time? 51:12.443 --> 51:13.123 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah 100% sorry. 51:13.143 --> 51:19.206 [SPEAKER_06]: What yeah I'ma says what Yeah, no, I was gonna use him. 51:19.266 --> 51:19.566 [SPEAKER_06]: Shield. 51:19.586 --> 51:21.246 [SPEAKER_06]: That was the only thing you could do right? 51:21.587 --> 51:22.107 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I mean 51:23.127 --> 51:25.448 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, the wife was she, and so you're committed to the fight. 51:25.468 --> 51:26.289 [SPEAKER_05]: What seriously? 51:26.409 --> 51:29.011 [SPEAKER_05]: As a martial artist, what 11 dudes, it was dumb. 51:29.571 --> 51:30.872 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, it was dumb. 51:30.892 --> 51:32.333 [SPEAKER_05]: Because I mean, especially if it won't be honest. 51:32.393 --> 51:33.713 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm wife, dude. 51:33.753 --> 51:38.716 [SPEAKER_06]: And that, and so, so fast forward, a couple of years, well, actually, this was like three or four years ago. 51:38.776 --> 51:39.757 [SPEAKER_06]: Five years ago, maybe. 51:40.390 --> 51:43.191 [SPEAKER_06]: We're driving on the street down down the ocean front again. 51:44.091 --> 51:46.491 [SPEAKER_06]: And she, this dude's getting his ass beat. 51:46.872 --> 51:47.892 [SPEAKER_06]: And just went on one. 51:48.732 --> 51:50.332 [SPEAKER_06]: And Vanessa, get out and help that guy. 51:50.352 --> 51:51.493 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want one. 51:52.053 --> 51:52.273 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 51:52.293 --> 51:54.373 [SPEAKER_06]: She was like, but he was getting his ass beat. 51:54.933 --> 51:55.954 [SPEAKER_06]: And he was getting bounce. 51:55.974 --> 51:58.994 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, bounce off the deck and the middle of Atlantic. 51:59.054 --> 52:01.355 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we're working on American history next time. 52:01.455 --> 52:02.715 [SPEAKER_06]: I got to get an interview. 52:02.755 --> 52:05.356 [SPEAKER_06]: The two was actually way bigger, right? 52:06.036 --> 52:09.517 [SPEAKER_06]: And she's bouncing him and Vanessa, get out, get out, go help that guy. 52:11.118 --> 52:14.681 [SPEAKER_06]: Vanessa, that dude has a gun on. 52:15.041 --> 52:27.893 [SPEAKER_06]: He's packing and you couldn't see it, but it was, it was, it was definitely printing and I was like, he's got a gun in his, in his, in his pants and he's not pulling it out and shooting this dude. 52:28.575 --> 52:32.016 [SPEAKER_06]: But I'm not gonna go over there and get into whatever that is. 52:32.096 --> 52:33.196 [SPEAKER_06]: Not my monkey's not my fight. 52:33.656 --> 52:34.216 [SPEAKER_05]: Nice. 52:34.396 --> 52:35.137 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not getting in that. 52:35.277 --> 52:36.297 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, he's fine. 52:37.337 --> 52:40.638 [SPEAKER_06]: And let's let this, she's like, he is. 52:40.878 --> 52:42.238 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, yeah, look, see that? 52:42.398 --> 52:45.479 [SPEAKER_06]: And she's like, oh, okay, let me make sense. 52:45.859 --> 52:51.961 [SPEAKER_06]: So after he whips the dude's ass starts to walk off, then I get out, I go out, I'll help the guy. 52:52.281 --> 52:56.722 [SPEAKER_06]: And as I'm pulling the guy up, he's just like swingin' out and I'm like, do you chill bro? 52:58.889 --> 53:02.292 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like do chill bro chill. 53:02.352 --> 53:06.235 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm helping you so I'm like walking him across now The cops are coming right and I 53:07.593 --> 53:10.954 [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, oh, let me go, let me go, let me go. 53:10.974 --> 53:12.074 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, what, dude? 53:12.114 --> 53:13.035 [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, I don't want to go back. 53:13.635 --> 53:14.235 [SPEAKER_06]: Go, my god. 53:14.315 --> 53:15.735 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's like, he's the guy. 53:15.755 --> 53:16.556 [SPEAKER_05]: You were the problem. 53:16.576 --> 53:17.596 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not the guy. 53:17.616 --> 53:18.596 [SPEAKER_05]: Not shooting you with the guy. 53:18.636 --> 53:20.017 [SPEAKER_05]: He was just trying to kill you with his life. 53:20.037 --> 53:26.578 [SPEAKER_06]: The other dude, the other one that you wanted me to go is save him from because he was losing was not the problem, right? 53:27.519 --> 53:29.539 [SPEAKER_06]: So anyway, yes. 53:29.559 --> 53:30.460 [SPEAKER_06]: That's funny. 53:30.480 --> 53:33.200 [SPEAKER_05]: Just stop and buy it. 53:33.220 --> 53:35.221 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, that was how long you've been on the Navy at that point. 53:35.997 --> 53:36.578 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, shit. 53:36.618 --> 53:37.458 [SPEAKER_05]: So I got out in 2001. 53:37.478 --> 53:39.300 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I wanted to ask out. 53:39.400 --> 53:42.862 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I got out in in 2001 January. 53:43.723 --> 53:45.885 [SPEAKER_06]: And obviously none 11 happened after that. 53:46.025 --> 53:47.466 [SPEAKER_06]: And so that was disappointing. 53:47.486 --> 53:49.488 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, I want to go back. 53:49.568 --> 53:49.788 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 53:49.908 --> 53:51.669 [SPEAKER_06]: And because nothing was going on, we were in. 53:51.910 --> 53:52.090 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 53:52.110 --> 53:52.350 [SPEAKER_06]: Shit. 53:53.071 --> 53:56.253 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I was like, you know, all the stuff. 53:56.373 --> 54:01.237 [SPEAKER_06]: I, you know, I was, I wanted to go and been asked to like, new, new, new, new. 54:01.297 --> 54:01.898 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's family time. 54:01.918 --> 54:02.920 [SPEAKER_05]: You do the names of it. 54:02.940 --> 54:05.905 [SPEAKER_06]: We just had our first son, you know, he was one. 54:05.985 --> 54:08.529 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I was like, all right. 54:08.670 --> 54:14.459 [SPEAKER_06]: So anyway, but that was a really, it was a really, yeah, it was a really and and all the guys. 54:15.393 --> 54:22.636 [SPEAKER_06]: that were in our era at that time, you know, had just gone over to green tea and we're just going over that the beginning of that. 54:22.836 --> 54:30.578 [SPEAKER_05]: And so, I mean, like, was like Moni would over with the first hump and I know Tom Mar was over there. 54:30.678 --> 54:31.959 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but I mean, I've been talking about that. 54:32.059 --> 54:36.720 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm talking about the, like, the guys that were already had just left-sealting too. 54:36.740 --> 54:37.761 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 54:37.901 --> 54:40.282 [SPEAKER_06]: Not those guys, this was like fee fee. 54:40.842 --> 54:43.883 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, shit, and yeah, and like all those, all those guys. 54:44.823 --> 54:54.645 [SPEAKER_06]: And all those, you know, all the, Yeah, I remember, oh, yeah, everyone was in, you know, Neil Roberts gets, you know, I was in Aerobs at Seal Team Two Pack and a shooting. 54:54.665 --> 54:56.145 [SPEAKER_05]: That was the first time I got asked a question. 54:56.585 --> 55:00.106 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you know, you remember, the comment, hey, did you, what do you mean did I know? 55:00.426 --> 55:02.227 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, what a cool guy. 55:02.487 --> 55:03.447 [SPEAKER_05]: No, he's the best man. 55:03.707 --> 55:13.569 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but that was, that was, that was rough for me, because I kind of contextualized those dudes that I knew really well were over there fighting the fight. 55:14.273 --> 55:18.115 [SPEAKER_06]: And then, you know, fast-forward all the stuff with all of our era guys. 55:18.135 --> 55:22.157 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, because they were, I guess, I, not a generation, but they were like one. 55:22.337 --> 55:22.517 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 55:22.557 --> 55:23.218 [SPEAKER_05]: Next to this. 55:23.238 --> 55:23.338 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 55:23.358 --> 55:24.098 [SPEAKER_06]: They were with us. 55:24.238 --> 55:27.380 [SPEAKER_06]: They were, they were, they were the guys that we all looked up to when we were. 55:27.700 --> 55:28.561 [SPEAKER_06]: They were running green team. 55:28.801 --> 55:28.981 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 55:29.061 --> 55:31.342 [SPEAKER_05]: And then they were, because the guys went and green team were getting ready to go screen. 55:31.762 --> 55:31.943 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 55:32.083 --> 55:32.463 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. 55:32.543 --> 55:33.303 [SPEAKER_06]: And they were teach pistols. 55:33.403 --> 55:33.543 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 55:33.744 --> 55:35.865 [SPEAKER_06]: And so those are the dudes that I was just like, man. 55:36.625 --> 55:51.400 [SPEAKER_06]: Those are the dudes I looked up to and these are the guys that are out there on the first lines and then you know that happened in Neil and legendary you know I mean yeah his whole course time is on his head still because it's done every animal every aspect yeah but I'm saying like what happened to him? 55:51.460 --> 55:52.582 [SPEAKER_06]: No I know what happened. 55:52.602 --> 55:53.523 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I'm saying the whole. 55:54.003 --> 55:58.027 [SPEAKER_05]: It just made it so, um, real. 55:58.127 --> 56:05.995 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember the feeling of the mountains of Afghanistan, like Fifi died now fighting those fucking guys in the snow where we're supposed to be. 56:06.075 --> 56:07.517 [SPEAKER_05]: I know exactly what you're talking about. 56:07.537 --> 56:07.677 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 56:08.037 --> 56:08.358 [SPEAKER_05]: And so, 56:09.981 --> 56:11.743 [SPEAKER_06]: It was tough, that was tough for me, right? 56:11.843 --> 56:18.668 [SPEAKER_06]: And so, those are the things that bummed me out quite a bit. 56:18.768 --> 56:34.762 [SPEAKER_06]: And kept me not in the community as far as being a seal anymore, but staying active doing the things I was doing, training with the guys and teaching martial arts and all the things. 56:35.282 --> 56:36.603 [SPEAKER_06]: And so, really trying to be 56:37.524 --> 56:46.769 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, as much a part of it as I could without actually being there, did you, did you talk to some of the guys that were on top of her girl after the fact like terrible. 56:46.829 --> 56:47.490 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah. 56:47.570 --> 56:57.935 [SPEAKER_05]: What did you, because just like we'll get into my thing in a second, but just like the bin Laden raid or loan survivor, the stuff with Robert's razor is obviously the money morning quarterbacks. 56:58.195 --> 57:03.378 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they know that you shouldn't, you know, they've never been shot at by a PKM by three of nine feet. 57:06.897 --> 57:10.060 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like slab was one of the hardest core motherfuckers I've ever met. 57:10.140 --> 57:11.301 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like to this day. 57:11.461 --> 57:13.562 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and they're not leaving people behind. 57:13.602 --> 57:14.163 [SPEAKER_05]: No, fuck no. 57:14.503 --> 57:16.845 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's like that is the most intense shit that yeah. 57:18.375 --> 57:41.652 [SPEAKER_06]: It's almost like it was, here's the thing, here's the thing, and I wasn't there, and I wasn't there, and I wasn't able to, I can't even fathom the fear, the adversity that those guys felt or went through, but I do know the bond that you have with those guys, and there ain't no way and fathom hell or you don't have somebody bond. 57:41.692 --> 57:43.534 [SPEAKER_06]: No, no way, no way, you're going to get it. 57:43.934 --> 57:46.356 [SPEAKER_06]: And so to me, to me, there was like, 57:47.997 --> 57:48.598 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, what do we do? 57:48.658 --> 57:48.798 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 57:49.118 --> 58:08.171 [SPEAKER_06]: And like I said, I can't I can't put myself into that position because I never was, but but those use your heroes and yeah, and to be real and and everything all all the things to be in that fight because even I remember Like immediate action drills and one warfare and we did the same one center pale pale and all the fucking bullshit. 58:08.311 --> 58:10.813 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the guys have got the second they got back from it. 58:10.833 --> 58:12.675 [SPEAKER_05]: They're like everything we taught you fucking forget. 58:12.895 --> 58:13.015 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah 58:13.555 --> 58:20.840 [SPEAKER_05]: Basically you're going to find the biggest rock that you can't just be that big you're going to fucking get behind it Yeah, and you're going to call for fucking cast Yeah, like get ready. 58:21.141 --> 58:22.682 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because it's on and these fuckers fight. 58:22.862 --> 58:24.063 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 58:24.083 --> 58:33.610 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah Here was it that was like it was another one of those moments where it's like okay, this is new Yeah, it should change right and so everything just and then you know then you guys all went over and and you know and I'm like 58:35.141 --> 58:57.201 [SPEAKER_06]: The call of the wild was real, the call of the wild was real and it was very hard and so that's kind of a living by Cariously through you guys is you're coming back and doing the things and doing all the stuff and and you know still still staying You know, you know, knowing all the guys and in the community to that extent, but but like man it was hard it was hard it was hard 58:57.381 --> 59:02.966 [SPEAKER_05]: It's hard, but you also, I think we were talking offline about this, though, everything that happened got you to this position. 59:03.146 --> 59:07.049 [SPEAKER_05]: So I think, you know, if you think about, um, I'm, like, I'm so happy with my daughter. 59:07.369 --> 59:08.450 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, what if I was on the helicopter? 59:08.610 --> 59:08.750 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 59:09.231 --> 59:14.175 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you got to, I, I, I, I helped me with everything to realize it's, it's all on purpose. 59:14.335 --> 59:14.475 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 59:14.835 --> 59:15.816 [SPEAKER_05]: He's all things all happened. 59:15.856 --> 59:16.036 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 59:16.337 --> 59:21.121 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, look at the gym you open and the guys you train that went over, you know, like the, they learn shit they might have been. 59:21.141 --> 59:21.241 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 59:21.900 --> 59:24.522 [SPEAKER_05]: I know guys that got in fight, in fights, toe to toe. 59:25.002 --> 59:27.304 [SPEAKER_05]: And if you don't know your shit, this is it. 59:27.384 --> 59:28.345 [SPEAKER_05]: This is the last day you get. 59:28.545 --> 59:28.705 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 59:29.390 --> 59:33.993 [SPEAKER_06]: So, so, you and I have not talked about this, but I want to- Oh, shit, I know what's coming. 59:34.013 --> 59:34.353 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's do it. 59:34.373 --> 59:35.453 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so we're there. 59:35.473 --> 59:41.216 [SPEAKER_06]: So, um, so the, uh, the bin laundry, right? 59:41.236 --> 59:41.377 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 59:41.717 --> 59:44.118 [SPEAKER_05]: And this is the part where I get to review it. 59:44.158 --> 59:44.298 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 59:44.338 --> 59:44.718 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 59:44.738 --> 59:46.019 [SPEAKER_06]: So this all came about, right? 59:46.039 --> 59:46.599 [SPEAKER_06]: This happened. 59:46.800 --> 59:50.842 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I have a unique experience with you knowing you as I do. 59:51.002 --> 59:51.262 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 59:52.102 --> 59:55.924 [SPEAKER_06]: Being the- We have inside jokes right now that we both know what we're talking about, no one knows. 59:55.964 --> 59:56.645 [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. 59:56.725 --> 59:57.265 [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. 59:57.305 --> 59:58.126 [SPEAKER_06]: Being, being. 59:59.087 --> 01:00:05.497 [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so I have proof, I have proof that you did what you say. 01:00:05.618 --> 01:00:05.958 [SPEAKER_06]: Really? 01:00:06.138 --> 01:00:06.319 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 01:00:06.699 --> 01:00:06.920 [SPEAKER_05]: I do. 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:07.901 [SPEAKER_05]: I was on a word. 01:00:07.921 --> 01:00:08.943 [SPEAKER_05]: This is an exclusive for. 01:00:08.983 --> 01:00:09.204 [SPEAKER_05]: I do. 01:00:09.224 --> 01:00:09.364 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 01:00:11.244 --> 01:00:12.245 [SPEAKER_06]: And don't get me wrong. 01:00:12.666 --> 01:00:18.430 [SPEAKER_06]: I've been very conflicted about how I felt about you coming out and talking about it And I'll talk to you about that as well. 01:00:18.830 --> 01:00:28.037 [SPEAKER_06]: However, I do believe Beyond the shadow about that you did did do what you say and Here's why so we're at a sealed team reunion. 01:00:28.178 --> 01:00:34.803 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you remember this pretty junk post post the the the laundry and we're at 01:00:35.523 --> 01:00:37.345 [SPEAKER_06]: The beer tent in your dad was there with you. 01:00:37.385 --> 01:00:45.812 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and it had been probably Ten years since I'd seen you and we ran into each other and we were sitting there talking. 01:00:46.052 --> 01:01:04.827 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and You know nobody'd come out nobody'd said shit except for Obama talking about, you know So you'll do you know, you know, he's the only person you talked about shit and so that's that summer This is a love yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so we're there and we're we're talking and And you said so check out my new tattoo 01:01:06.364 --> 01:01:07.384 [SPEAKER_06]: And you showed me a tattoo. 01:01:08.184 --> 01:01:09.625 [SPEAKER_06]: Do you know what tattoo you're about on? 01:01:09.805 --> 01:01:09.985 [SPEAKER_06]: No. 01:01:10.285 --> 01:01:10.705 [SPEAKER_06]: No, which one? 01:01:10.725 --> 01:01:12.225 [SPEAKER_06]: No, a tattoo I'm talking on. 01:01:12.966 --> 01:01:14.186 [SPEAKER_06]: Do you like that? 01:01:14.246 --> 01:01:15.746 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the one that says Rice Country? 01:01:15.806 --> 01:01:16.146 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no. 01:01:17.327 --> 01:01:18.027 [SPEAKER_05]: There's another one. 01:01:19.587 --> 01:01:21.247 [SPEAKER_06]: Other three expanded cartridges. 01:01:21.487 --> 01:01:22.008 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, yeah. 01:01:22.048 --> 01:01:23.068 [SPEAKER_05]: That's on this side, right there. 01:01:24.668 --> 01:01:25.068 [SPEAKER_05]: Where are they? 01:01:25.228 --> 01:01:26.889 [SPEAKER_06]: There should be right there somewhere. 01:01:26.909 --> 01:01:27.109 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:01:27.349 --> 01:01:28.089 [SPEAKER_06]: So you see this? 01:01:28.189 --> 01:01:32.290 [SPEAKER_06]: And you go, you see these three expanded, yes, casings. 01:01:33.587 --> 01:01:35.248 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, yeah, he's like, yeah. 01:01:35.388 --> 01:01:40.832 [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know if you heard in the news, there was a story, there's a dude. 01:01:40.852 --> 01:01:41.453 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:01:43.194 --> 01:01:44.515 [SPEAKER_06]: And you told me, you didn't tell me. 01:01:44.535 --> 01:01:45.195 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:01:45.556 --> 01:01:47.537 [SPEAKER_06]: I remember that told me, he's like, yeah. 01:01:47.797 --> 01:01:48.838 [SPEAKER_06]: So you were used. 01:01:50.221 --> 01:01:53.423 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, huh, that's funny too and two together, right? 01:01:53.683 --> 01:01:56.965 [SPEAKER_06]: And obviously, I knew what you were talking about with that. 01:01:57.005 --> 01:01:58.926 [SPEAKER_06]: But would you never said, this is what I did? 01:01:58.986 --> 01:02:00.387 [SPEAKER_06]: No, that's right. 01:02:00.547 --> 01:02:01.107 [SPEAKER_06]: To show me that. 01:02:01.548 --> 01:02:05.950 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, huh, okay, so fast forward, you know, that's crazy. 01:02:05.970 --> 01:02:09.592 [SPEAKER_06]: These people talk shit and, you know, I don't know. 01:02:09.772 --> 01:02:14.615 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, first of all, if you weren't there, then how the fuck do you know, shut the fuck up? 01:02:14.695 --> 01:02:15.436 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's a big one. 01:02:15.476 --> 01:02:17.277 [SPEAKER_06]: And second of all, second of all. 01:02:18.149 --> 01:02:22.132 [SPEAKER_06]: regardless of whether you were or weren't or whatever. 01:02:22.472 --> 01:02:27.895 [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody that was there, everybody that's done that job is a fucking hero. 01:02:28.095 --> 01:02:29.076 [SPEAKER_06]: So shit the fuck up. 01:02:29.336 --> 01:02:31.057 [SPEAKER_06]: And seriously, why fucking shit on each other? 01:02:31.137 --> 01:02:32.578 [SPEAKER_06]: I do not understand. 01:02:32.598 --> 01:02:34.159 [SPEAKER_06]: You guys are fucking heroes. 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:35.260 [SPEAKER_05]: Seriously. 01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:36.961 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't understand that. 01:02:37.001 --> 01:02:38.802 [SPEAKER_05]: The point that I make two of the team that went. 01:02:38.822 --> 01:02:40.823 [SPEAKER_05]: But to me, to me, that's what I wasn't even thinking about. 01:02:40.843 --> 01:02:42.024 [SPEAKER_05]: Those are those three. 01:02:42.044 --> 01:02:42.364 [SPEAKER_05]: So this. 01:02:42.384 --> 01:02:43.625 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:02:43.785 --> 01:02:44.206 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:02:44.506 --> 01:02:45.346 [SPEAKER_06]: But you showed me that. 01:02:45.466 --> 01:02:45.687 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:02:46.787 --> 01:02:56.254 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, and so but the way you told me how you told me yeah, and what you forgot and at the time It's not this isn't like some meet-ups. 01:02:56.314 --> 01:03:02.378 [SPEAKER_06]: This is real right and there's a reason and you don't tattoo No, I didn't think of that. 01:03:02.438 --> 01:03:13.066 [SPEAKER_06]: I have that tattoo This is this is this is this is pretty pretty good proof and it was pretty you ever coming out and saying shit So one of my guys, I'm not he's not out officially yet 01:03:13.766 --> 01:03:16.588 [SPEAKER_05]: But he was asked, how did you know it was Rob? 01:03:16.608 --> 01:03:20.831 [SPEAKER_05]: But he just said, because he fucking told me, like he told me right after he happened, like he didn't have time. 01:03:21.232 --> 01:03:22.473 [SPEAKER_05]: I was there and he just told me. 01:03:22.613 --> 01:03:22.853 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 01:03:22.973 --> 01:03:23.814 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not like I made a story. 01:03:23.834 --> 01:03:24.995 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, do you want fucking believe it? 01:03:25.015 --> 01:03:25.955 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that was a thing, right? 01:03:26.035 --> 01:03:30.279 [SPEAKER_06]: Like you just told me, and it wasn't like you were, you were telling you to say, yeah, sure, you know. 01:03:30.699 --> 01:03:32.981 [SPEAKER_06]: I shot been lying. 01:03:33.261 --> 01:03:36.383 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, I was behind the point man and I thought was I'm going to blow up. 01:03:36.403 --> 01:03:37.484 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm tired of thinking about it. 01:03:37.504 --> 01:03:40.586 [SPEAKER_05]: Because he just let me know, hey, these are the suicide bombers. 01:03:40.666 --> 01:03:41.327 [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to suck. 01:03:41.467 --> 01:03:42.128 [SPEAKER_05]: We have to go now. 01:03:42.328 --> 01:03:42.528 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:03:42.848 --> 01:03:44.749 [SPEAKER_05]: So, again, I wasn't there. 01:03:44.829 --> 01:03:44.989 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:03:45.389 --> 01:03:46.549 [SPEAKER_05]: So I grew the heroes in them. 01:03:46.589 --> 01:03:47.049 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:03:47.069 --> 01:03:48.490 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the aircrew, the pilots, everyone. 01:03:48.510 --> 01:03:48.710 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 01:03:48.730 --> 01:03:49.750 [SPEAKER_05]: Think about this. 01:03:49.770 --> 01:03:54.192 [SPEAKER_05]: A group from Blue Squadron came in on a shun up, flown by the army, and they rescued us. 01:03:54.392 --> 01:03:54.572 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 01:03:54.612 --> 01:03:55.252 [SPEAKER_05]: Those are the heroes. 01:03:55.612 --> 01:03:56.153 [SPEAKER_06]: They're all here. 01:03:56.173 --> 01:03:57.153 [SPEAKER_06]: All of you. 01:03:57.573 --> 01:03:58.613 [SPEAKER_06]: All of you. 01:03:58.753 --> 01:03:59.574 [SPEAKER_05]: Have you said that? 01:03:59.954 --> 01:04:01.735 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm kidding. 01:04:01.895 --> 01:04:02.315 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no. 01:04:02.375 --> 01:04:03.235 [SPEAKER_06]: Having said that. 01:04:04.315 --> 01:04:06.976 [SPEAKER_06]: So you came out and you told everybody your story. 01:04:07.777 --> 01:04:10.137 [SPEAKER_06]: And I have to admit, I was a little bit... Fair enough. 01:04:10.498 --> 01:04:10.938 [SPEAKER_06]: I was... 01:04:13.038 --> 01:04:22.405 [SPEAKER_06]: very complicated, because you're my great friend, and, and, and I, I obviously, and I've told I've told Vanessa this and I was just like, I'm just like, I don't know how I feel about this. 01:04:22.485 --> 01:04:38.378 [SPEAKER_05]: I've, you know, there's quite professional, and all the things and I just didn't know how you know it came out the second it happened, and I, because the second one, the second I shop in London, what, no one saw it, well, three of us, two of us on, three of us might have seen it. 01:04:38.458 --> 01:04:39.118 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 01:04:39.238 --> 01:04:40.840 [SPEAKER_05]: As soon as it happened, I heard people saying, who got it? 01:04:41.804 --> 01:04:42.945 [SPEAKER_05]: And it was very common to your newsroom. 01:04:42.965 --> 01:04:44.086 [SPEAKER_05]: Fuck, we're never going to hear the end of this. 01:04:44.286 --> 01:04:45.127 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, literally. 01:04:45.528 --> 01:04:47.890 [SPEAKER_05]: Like guys were asking who like I didn't just come out and say I did it. 01:04:47.990 --> 01:04:50.052 [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone, everyone wanted to know who did it. 01:04:50.172 --> 01:04:51.133 [SPEAKER_05]: And everyone's of course. 01:04:51.533 --> 01:04:52.775 [SPEAKER_05]: So of course, it's not like it was a secret. 01:04:52.995 --> 01:04:55.817 [SPEAKER_06]: No, and, but it wasn't necessarily public. 01:04:56.018 --> 01:04:56.658 [SPEAKER_06]: No, right. 01:04:56.738 --> 01:05:00.522 [SPEAKER_06]: And it wasn't out there in the, and the, you know, means, yeah, I know. 01:05:00.802 --> 01:05:03.004 [SPEAKER_05]: And so I had a way for Matt Bisonette to write no easy day. 01:05:04.306 --> 01:05:09.852 [SPEAKER_06]: So for nice standpoint, my standpoint, this was kind of like, yeah, I don't know how I feel about it. 01:05:09.892 --> 01:05:10.733 [SPEAKER_06]: Believe me, I got it. 01:05:10.773 --> 01:05:16.259 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and so this was, this was like, She's just trying to make a buck, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all the things, you know, but then, 01:05:17.329 --> 01:05:33.879 [SPEAKER_06]: Then you start watching, and you've got the gift of God, and you have the ability to speak and the ability to tell a story, you're a comedian, and it's, that's how I earn my life. 01:05:33.919 --> 01:05:42.524 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, but it's a lesser known aspect of you is that you are, you do have the verbal agility of a comedian. 01:05:43.384 --> 01:05:47.606 [SPEAKER_06]: and a stand-up comedian, and it's not an easy thing to do, and you have that ability. 01:05:48.226 --> 01:05:48.626 [SPEAKER_06]: I know it. 01:05:48.706 --> 01:05:49.206 [SPEAKER_06]: I've seen it. 01:05:49.306 --> 01:05:50.207 [SPEAKER_06]: I've experienced it. 01:05:50.227 --> 01:05:51.407 [SPEAKER_06]: It's one of my favorite things about you. 01:05:51.487 --> 01:05:51.687 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not. 01:05:51.707 --> 01:05:52.047 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not. 01:05:52.327 --> 01:05:52.648 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not. 01:05:52.708 --> 01:05:52.928 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not. 01:05:53.008 --> 01:05:55.309 [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody knows about Robyn. 01:05:55.429 --> 01:06:04.152 [SPEAKER_06]: But anyway, so this was something that I didn't experience until after the fact, and I think it was 01:06:04.892 --> 01:06:16.427 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it was a rally that you were doing with Kid Rock action and I watched and I heard your story over and over again because I listened to it and it's a great story and you tell it very well. 01:06:17.188 --> 01:06:20.012 [SPEAKER_06]: But you told this story at a Kid Rock. 01:06:20.813 --> 01:06:21.754 [SPEAKER_06]: Rout concert. 01:06:21.854 --> 01:06:22.955 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I think a cruise ship. 01:06:23.275 --> 01:06:24.115 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know where it was. 01:06:24.275 --> 01:06:24.456 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:06:24.976 --> 01:06:36.243 [SPEAKER_06]: All I know is you told the story and you told the story about the woman and I don't mean to quote you incorrectly, but you talk about the woman that went to school, went to dropper kid off at school. 01:06:36.323 --> 01:06:36.483 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:06:36.764 --> 01:06:38.385 [SPEAKER_06]: And then went to work and went to 01:06:39.447 --> 01:06:40.167 [SPEAKER_06]: What floor was it? 01:06:40.327 --> 01:06:41.548 [SPEAKER_06]: Like the hundred something on that. 01:06:41.588 --> 01:06:42.088 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no tower. 01:06:42.128 --> 01:06:43.549 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the north tower. 01:06:44.069 --> 01:06:52.353 [SPEAKER_06]: And the last thing of decency that she had was to hold her skirt down as she jumped from the north tower. 01:06:52.393 --> 01:06:52.533 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:06:52.733 --> 01:06:57.775 [SPEAKER_06]: So it's so that her skirt wouldn't fly up over her fricking head as she's falling to her death. 01:06:57.795 --> 01:06:58.035 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:06:58.856 --> 01:07:01.777 [SPEAKER_06]: And to me, that, 01:07:03.958 --> 01:07:23.045 [SPEAKER_06]: emotion that comes from hearing a story like that and when it's put into perspective about why you did what you did and why you had this selfless act of going on this mission that you thought was in one way mission. 01:07:24.587 --> 01:07:31.810 [SPEAKER_06]: changes the perspective right because the patriotism that you get from here in that story. 01:07:32.911 --> 01:07:43.675 [SPEAKER_06]: And the together and Ray was just talking about, you know, 9-11 and the best thing, the best day being 9-12. 01:07:45.556 --> 01:07:47.097 [SPEAKER_06]: How do we go back to 2012? 01:07:47.337 --> 01:07:50.638 [SPEAKER_06]: The only way we go back to 912 is by telling stories like that. 01:07:52.139 --> 01:08:11.287 [SPEAKER_06]: Versus going through another 9-11, let's tell stories about 9-12, about 9-11, and experience 9-12, and that togetherness, the country was like boom, and when you tell that story, I don't give a shit, who you are, you get a motion, you get, you feel, USA, USA, USA, you know, 01:08:13.668 --> 01:08:15.249 [SPEAKER_06]: was way more powerful. 01:08:15.469 --> 01:08:16.630 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, way more powerful. 01:08:16.910 --> 01:08:29.676 [SPEAKER_06]: And to me, that's how I kind of got to the point where, you know what, I understand why dudes are pissed, I understand why the community's pissed, I understand why there's haters, I get it. 01:08:30.277 --> 01:08:32.558 [SPEAKER_06]: But I also see the greater good. 01:08:33.018 --> 01:08:36.440 [SPEAKER_06]: And the greater good to me outweighed the 01:08:37.062 --> 01:08:50.426 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and so as long as long as there were no lives put in danger with anything that you said, as long as nobody, nobody that was downrange was compromised. 01:08:52.162 --> 01:08:53.282 [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like I'm okay with it. 01:08:53.302 --> 01:08:54.103 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, thank you. 01:08:54.183 --> 01:09:00.204 [SPEAKER_06]: I definitely okay with the story, but it took me a while to figure it out and to figure out where I was with it. 01:09:00.404 --> 01:09:04.965 [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't give a shit, whether you took the shot or you didn't, I believe you did. 01:09:05.425 --> 01:09:07.186 [SPEAKER_06]: But I don't give a shit, whether you did or you didn't. 01:09:07.766 --> 01:09:10.006 [SPEAKER_06]: You were there, you were on the mission, you're a fucking hero. 01:09:10.386 --> 01:09:12.707 [SPEAKER_06]: And everybody else that was on that mission is a fucking hero. 01:09:12.727 --> 01:09:13.487 [SPEAKER_06]: One million per million per million. 01:09:13.507 --> 01:09:16.428 [SPEAKER_06]: Just because you weren't on that mission, doesn't mean that you're not a hero too. 01:09:16.748 --> 01:09:19.108 [SPEAKER_06]: Every dude that went downrange and put their lives 01:09:22.549 --> 01:09:29.573 [SPEAKER_06]: my hats off to you and honestly, I can't hold a candle to you. 01:09:30.053 --> 01:09:36.236 [SPEAKER_06]: To me, I think the story needed to be told and you're a great story. 01:09:36.296 --> 01:09:37.617 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I appreciate that. 01:09:38.157 --> 01:09:44.361 [SPEAKER_06]: So again, I was conflicted and I've always wanted to have this conversation with you. 01:09:44.441 --> 01:09:48.523 [SPEAKER_06]: I was really, you know, I'm not necessarily on camera, 01:09:49.043 --> 01:09:50.064 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad we don't care. 01:09:50.104 --> 01:09:55.530 [SPEAKER_05]: No, but as long as like I hope everyone tells your story as long just get it approved. 01:09:56.070 --> 01:09:56.591 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's it. 01:09:56.611 --> 01:10:00.635 [SPEAKER_05]: All you get is get your shit approved and then you know get like yeah tactics with the big thing. 01:10:00.655 --> 01:10:09.583 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm I'm really happy when a biographer followed someone on Normandy or it's like with the forgotten where we don't know shit about Korea. 01:10:09.603 --> 01:10:10.544 [SPEAKER_05]: There maybe there wasn't anyone there. 01:10:10.905 --> 01:10:11.465 [SPEAKER_05]: If the story like 01:10:12.586 --> 01:10:15.388 [SPEAKER_05]: We were so close to the flame, you don't realize you're living history till it's over. 01:10:15.668 --> 01:10:16.949 [SPEAKER_05]: It is important, I think, to get it right. 01:10:17.109 --> 01:10:17.309 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 01:10:17.529 --> 01:10:23.192 [SPEAKER_05]: And then again, I'm hoping to tell their stories, uh, uh, get their stories out about that one too. 01:10:23.232 --> 01:10:23.773 [SPEAKER_05]: It's so important. 01:10:23.793 --> 01:10:35.159 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's so important to hear about the writing on the rescue board, the right out of the rescue board, the guys who built the helicopter, the pilots, the amazing stories of who were the close air support guys in the stealth burst, telling the pack, his day needs to turn to fuck around. 01:10:35.459 --> 01:10:36.520 [SPEAKER_05]: We don't everything going on. 01:10:36.580 --> 01:10:38.501 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's, I don't know, and stuff that doesn't need to be told. 01:10:38.821 --> 01:10:45.585 [SPEAKER_05]: But it is definitely things that shouldn't be told and I think there's definitely but that's why you get it approved and then if you're given something up, they can tell you to black and out of it. 01:10:45.605 --> 01:10:46.545 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly. 01:10:46.665 --> 01:10:55.030 [SPEAKER_06]: And so as long as that was done, I was able to rationalize the pros of you telling your story. 01:10:55.650 --> 01:10:57.291 [SPEAKER_06]: And honestly, I mean, I mean, I mean, 01:10:57.551 --> 01:10:58.172 [SPEAKER_06]: tell the story. 01:10:58.352 --> 01:10:59.613 [SPEAKER_06]: It's amazing. 01:10:59.833 --> 01:11:16.827 [SPEAKER_06]: And really, really, the beauty of it is how you describe why you went on this, why you know, the most important part of the mission are the flight and the flight out because you're with the guys and that's when you're thinking or the conversation before or when you call your dad and you say goodbye, not knowing that you're saying goodbye. 01:11:17.047 --> 01:11:18.228 [SPEAKER_05]: And he didn't know it for real. 01:11:18.248 --> 01:11:18.789 [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't know. 01:11:18.929 --> 01:11:21.191 [SPEAKER_05]: He was, he was one of why I was thinking for sure. 01:11:21.211 --> 01:11:21.851 [SPEAKER_05]: He should be out of 01:11:26.355 --> 01:11:36.938 [SPEAKER_06]: Like tearful, you know, and tearful with pride and tearful with proud to be an American because we're the baddest motherfuckin What I like about the mission is is every dude on that mission. 01:11:36.978 --> 01:11:42.220 [SPEAKER_05]: I was with right now And I'm austere not I would not hesitate to go back to war this second with them. 01:11:42.380 --> 01:11:50.902 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure we're gonna have our bitchy little moments That's fine, but what I love that we've proven it Delta's proven another guy's Marines of proven it that if we want to we can send people to you I said fucking get you. 01:11:51.162 --> 01:11:52.383 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I love that about this. 01:11:52.423 --> 01:11:53.963 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and they may be doing that now 01:11:57.593 --> 01:11:59.016 [SPEAKER_06]: Now, here's the thing. 01:11:59.116 --> 01:12:00.479 [SPEAKER_06]: Here's what bumps me out. 01:12:00.820 --> 01:12:01.621 [SPEAKER_06]: Here's what bumps me out. 01:12:02.162 --> 01:12:02.884 [SPEAKER_06]: Is the... 01:12:05.393 --> 01:12:05.793 [SPEAKER_06]: airing of. 01:12:06.553 --> 01:12:07.614 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, dirty laundry. 01:12:07.674 --> 01:12:11.755 [SPEAKER_06]: I agree that in house, that should be behind closed should be yes, right. 01:12:12.095 --> 01:12:18.896 [SPEAKER_06]: And those those things for people that are are speaking negative. 01:12:19.096 --> 01:12:22.317 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a problem of things is is very unfortunate. 01:12:22.357 --> 01:12:23.077 [SPEAKER_06]: It is to make it. 01:12:23.177 --> 01:12:23.537 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it. 01:12:23.877 --> 01:12:26.298 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it and it's not just you. 01:12:26.698 --> 01:12:34.220 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, not that you're you're the one that's spewing this stuff, but I'm saying like it's it's not just you that's the target of this. 01:12:34.260 --> 01:12:34.700 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I know, I'm 01:12:34.980 --> 01:12:50.443 [SPEAKER_06]: There's tons of people that have haters, and they're out there, and, and, you know, unfortunately, you know, and people may not know this, but when you graduate buds, they give you a sad card, they give you a book deal, they give you a freaking, you know, they give you a, now it's a podcast guys getting a podcast. 01:12:51.223 --> 01:13:16.603 [SPEAKER_06]: So, so obviously there's tons of haters and it's like, man, shut up, do it seriously, if you want to talk shit to somebody go to their face and tell them what you think it's different versus getting on a freaking podcast and talk and shit, you know, I think that's, I think that's pussy, do it seriously? 01:13:17.003 --> 01:13:19.744 [SPEAKER_06]: bring your ass to my face and tell me you have a problem with what I did. 01:13:20.064 --> 01:13:21.644 [SPEAKER_06]: Tell me you have a problem with what I'm saying. 01:13:21.984 --> 01:13:27.865 [SPEAKER_06]: If you want to tell me to my face, that would be a better way to handle it. 01:13:27.925 --> 01:13:29.766 [SPEAKER_05]: And it would hopefully turn into a conversation. 01:13:29.986 --> 01:13:30.346 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. 01:13:30.366 --> 01:13:31.586 [SPEAKER_05]: Because I would have got caught. 01:13:31.606 --> 01:13:37.867 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm in a lawsuit now with these dudes that after two years of calling me a fraud, they finally said, if we were wrong about on the lead, sue us. 01:13:37.887 --> 01:13:38.768 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, all right, there it is. 01:13:39.468 --> 01:13:40.208 [SPEAKER_05]: Here we fucking go. 01:13:40.508 --> 01:13:40.788 [SPEAKER_05]: Super. 01:13:41.028 --> 01:13:42.248 [SPEAKER_05]: As opposed to a phone call. 01:13:42.388 --> 01:13:42.648 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:13:42.968 --> 01:13:43.328 [SPEAKER_05]: Why not? 01:13:43.428 --> 01:13:43.769 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 01:13:43.789 --> 01:13:44.029 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, 01:13:46.089 --> 01:13:53.913 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and so if you get clicks, that's, well, it's unfortunate that we come to the hopefully that hopefully this is one of the last, well, hopefully. 01:13:54.173 --> 01:13:58.075 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and, but I know my my lawyers and every other lawyers happy was keep paying them. 01:13:58.235 --> 01:13:58.495 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:13:59.115 --> 01:14:01.797 [SPEAKER_06]: No, but I've, I've come full circle with. 01:14:01.817 --> 01:14:02.797 [SPEAKER_06]: I appreciate that. 01:14:03.457 --> 01:14:04.878 [SPEAKER_06]: And, and, you know, I love you. 01:14:05.158 --> 01:14:05.979 [SPEAKER_06]: And I love you. 01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:08.340 [SPEAKER_06]: So, so it's super cool to, 01:14:09.718 --> 01:14:12.160 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, to be a part of this and doing well. 01:14:12.180 --> 01:14:16.863 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that what we're doing now is it was referring to the operative, which we're here doing now, which is exciting. 01:14:16.883 --> 01:14:24.429 [SPEAKER_05]: And we just, yeah, we're just going to be teaching a little bit of, well, with the CQB, it's not CQB, it's more communication with the jujitsu. 01:14:24.529 --> 01:14:27.251 [SPEAKER_05]: How did you describe like a three-hour course of instruction? 01:14:27.851 --> 01:14:32.095 [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, my jujitsu that I teach for, for, 01:14:33.356 --> 01:14:35.958 [SPEAKER_06]: self-defense, which I don't even like calling it self-defense. 01:14:36.298 --> 01:14:38.539 [SPEAKER_06]: I call it, you know, real-world shit. 01:14:38.820 --> 01:14:39.100 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:14:39.240 --> 01:14:39.480 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:14:40.781 --> 01:14:48.587 [SPEAKER_06]: It's my grounded module by portion of the ground that I teach is called GTFU. 01:14:50.268 --> 01:14:50.928 [SPEAKER_06]: Get the fuck up. 01:14:51.808 --> 01:14:52.209 [SPEAKER_05]: I love that. 01:14:52.309 --> 01:15:04.952 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I love playing around on the ground and yeah, so so when I teach I teach with Craig Douglas Shea works as as we've talked about before and and and and there's three it three of us that teach it regularly. 01:15:05.272 --> 01:15:15.714 [SPEAKER_06]: Myself Craig who's the founder of Shea works and then Brian Furious who's also he's a former cop and and he's he's a little he did tons of stuff in the military 01:15:19.575 --> 01:15:19.996 [SPEAKER_06]: bad dude. 01:15:20.736 --> 01:15:30.064 [SPEAKER_06]: And anyway, like he trained at, you know, the highest level of jujitsu that you can never train and was competitive and so yeah, he's a monster. 01:15:30.524 --> 01:15:37.630 [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, but, but there's three of us and so, but our ground module as much as we love playing on the ground, we're all black folks. 01:15:38.871 --> 01:15:43.534 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I know illusions that we should be playing on the ground in a real little situation. 01:15:44.295 --> 01:15:46.217 [SPEAKER_06]: The strategy should be to get the fuck up. 01:15:46.917 --> 01:16:02.549 [SPEAKER_06]: GTF you, and that's our little acronym, love, you know, and because, you know, there's usually more than one guy, there's probably weapons and there may be more work to be done in the room if you're a military or law enforcement or what's the idea of the job? 01:16:02.809 --> 01:16:07.072 [SPEAKER_05]: How much time do you want to transform before they can actually do the do the when the fight the back of a car type thing? 01:16:07.193 --> 01:16:07.533 [SPEAKER_06]: What do you mean? 01:16:08.444 --> 01:16:24.202 [SPEAKER_06]: If we want to do a couple of hours of it, so the real cool stuff that we teach, we teach the managing our known context, which is a strategy template for dealing with an approaching stranger. 01:16:24.603 --> 01:16:27.126 [SPEAKER_06]: We don't know what their intentions are, they could be benign, they could be 01:16:27.806 --> 01:16:52.815 [SPEAKER_06]: have malicious intent they want to rob us or whatever, but our strategy to template teaches people how to deal with those unknown contacts with those people that are approaching us in a way that is repeatable, a strategy that they can use and apply to everyday situations and not get themselves into a potential situation that they may or may not be able to fight the way out of. 01:16:53.635 --> 01:17:00.820 [SPEAKER_06]: And we like to teach them that ability to prevent it from getting the same. 01:17:01.100 --> 01:17:01.581 [SPEAKER_06]: So there's that. 01:17:01.901 --> 01:17:06.364 [SPEAKER_06]: And then we teach the carfighting module, which is the anti anti car jacking. 01:17:06.804 --> 01:17:09.946 [SPEAKER_06]: We call it vehicle agility, which is all the stuff that's external. 01:17:10.427 --> 01:17:13.229 [SPEAKER_06]: And then the interior carfight, which is which goes from 01:17:13.949 --> 01:17:36.560 [SPEAKER_06]: goes from when you're getting into a vehicle and you get hit as you're getting into the vehicle or as you're getting out of the vehicle and you get blindsided car jack or whatever and you have to fight your way either out into space to where you can potentially deploy a weapon or do something or retreat into the car somehow some way and be able to jump out the other side or if you if. 01:17:37.120 --> 01:17:39.861 [SPEAKER_06]: worst case scenario, you have to fight in the car. 01:17:39.921 --> 01:17:41.261 [SPEAKER_06]: We teach you how to fight inside the car. 01:17:41.281 --> 01:17:45.843 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, and fighting in a car is different than intimate. 01:17:46.243 --> 01:17:50.884 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and it's different than probably what you, what you may, may have thought. 01:17:50.964 --> 01:17:56.226 [SPEAKER_06]: And I know there's like there's the jujitsu in a car where two dudes are in a in-gees. 01:17:56.566 --> 01:18:02.168 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're wrapping, you know, belts around each other and trying to joke and use actual jujitsu in a car. 01:18:02.188 --> 01:18:03.088 [SPEAKER_06]: And that's really not 01:18:03.288 --> 01:18:07.352 [SPEAKER_05]: If I'm going to get fight with someone else, it's like, hey dog, maybe we just both have the room in here. 01:18:07.373 --> 01:18:07.573 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:18:07.813 --> 01:18:08.253 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:18:08.273 --> 01:18:09.895 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:18:09.935 --> 01:18:10.836 [SPEAKER_06]: So. 01:18:11.257 --> 01:18:11.437 [SPEAKER_06]: No. 01:18:11.457 --> 01:18:12.498 [SPEAKER_06]: But are we gay? 01:18:12.558 --> 01:18:12.899 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:18:13.059 --> 01:18:13.439 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:18:13.459 --> 01:18:13.840 [SPEAKER_06]: We may be. 01:18:14.220 --> 01:18:16.863 [SPEAKER_06]: So this is like, it's a different strategy. 01:18:16.963 --> 01:18:18.124 [SPEAKER_06]: We call it. 01:18:18.445 --> 01:18:20.066 [SPEAKER_06]: It's basically just you and a cube. 01:18:21.007 --> 01:18:29.134 [SPEAKER_06]: and so it's a cross between jujitsu and rock climbing because you're doing a ton of you're using the vehicle in that spot, right? 01:18:29.174 --> 01:18:31.756 [SPEAKER_06]: It's a small confined space and they can be translated into anything. 01:18:31.776 --> 01:18:43.586 [SPEAKER_06]: You'd be a closet, a bathroom stall, it could be an elevator, it could be anything but you're utilizing the small confined space to your advantage to be able to pin 01:18:44.446 --> 01:18:48.188 [SPEAKER_06]: and crush people as opposed to looking for more traditional things. 01:18:48.208 --> 01:18:50.009 [SPEAKER_06]: So I want to think, why is it going on? 01:18:50.089 --> 01:18:50.610 [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting. 01:18:50.630 --> 01:18:58.494 [SPEAKER_06]: Somebody could, I could give up my back and I could be, be, you know, sitting in your lab driving you into the be pillar with my back. 01:18:59.214 --> 01:19:01.956 [SPEAKER_06]: And you could have a full on rear naked choke on me. 01:19:02.476 --> 01:19:04.477 [SPEAKER_06]: But I'm going to crush you before you can choke. 01:19:04.517 --> 01:19:05.338 [SPEAKER_06]: No shit, it's like a race. 01:19:05.358 --> 01:19:10.981 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going, yeah, I'm going to squat you into the be pillar and crush you before you have a chance. 01:19:11.441 --> 01:19:13.923 [SPEAKER_06]: Or you may have the top position, you may be on top, right? 01:19:13.983 --> 01:19:20.147 [SPEAKER_06]: And so I tell the story as I was fighting a dude in first time I ever did in a car because I thought I knew it was doing. 01:19:20.607 --> 01:19:25.570 [SPEAKER_06]: First time I fought some dude in a car that knew what they were doing with this stuff, he would put my ass. 01:19:25.811 --> 01:19:26.651 [SPEAKER_06]: Not once, but twice. 01:19:27.171 --> 01:19:32.515 [SPEAKER_06]: And when I thought I had the upper hand, he crushed me into the ceiling. 01:19:32.615 --> 01:19:35.537 [SPEAKER_06]: He literally squatted me into the top of the car. 01:19:36.037 --> 01:19:37.818 [SPEAKER_06]: And then squatted me into the be pillar. 01:19:37.918 --> 01:19:39.199 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was just like, what in the world? 01:19:40.602 --> 01:19:42.575 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a damn shot with the same guy and 01:19:43.661 --> 01:19:50.565 [SPEAKER_06]: Craig's like, Frank, you know, is that last moment I was like, dude, I was going to die because there's no way I was going to quit. 01:19:51.025 --> 01:19:52.666 [SPEAKER_06]: This dude was a purple dog and I was a black phone. 01:19:52.686 --> 01:19:53.346 [SPEAKER_06]: That can't quit. 01:19:53.807 --> 01:19:54.907 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm not a quarter. 01:19:54.927 --> 01:19:55.628 [SPEAKER_05]: I think he just there. 01:19:55.648 --> 01:19:57.089 [SPEAKER_06]: It's the way the bulls circle. 01:19:57.129 --> 01:19:59.130 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, I got I got shot. 01:19:59.490 --> 01:20:02.652 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, so this is this is what we teach in super cool. 01:20:03.152 --> 01:20:07.214 [SPEAKER_06]: And it's I we teach people how how to not get car jacked. 01:20:07.394 --> 01:20:09.395 [SPEAKER_06]: And it's super cool for women too because 01:20:12.437 --> 01:20:14.100 [SPEAKER_06]: and it's rough. 01:20:14.220 --> 01:20:29.039 [SPEAKER_06]: So you give them a strategy to block or bunker themselves into the car or not allow themselves to get drug out of the car or get pushed in and potentially give them self enough time to be able to survive until somebody else shows up. 01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:34.864 [SPEAKER_06]: We call it the spider web and it's a technique that we do that we block the block the driver's compartment. 01:20:34.884 --> 01:20:41.370 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's, I would think if a woman's been attacked by a car jack who's ready to fight, she might not win that fight, so you're kind of waiting on back up. 01:20:41.470 --> 01:20:42.610 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so that's the shit you're teaching. 01:20:42.631 --> 01:20:43.371 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. 01:20:43.391 --> 01:20:43.811 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. 01:20:43.972 --> 01:20:56.321 [SPEAKER_06]: So it's cool and it's a lot of fun, a lot of fun and it's something that I, you know, I think would be really cool to teach people at the, at the apex part of course. 01:20:56.341 --> 01:20:57.282 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's what we're doing. 01:20:57.302 --> 01:20:57.843 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a plan. 01:20:58.483 --> 01:21:04.409 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, with you and Daniel Martin and other black belt coming up with just incorporating, that's like some magician shit that I'm going to watch. 01:21:04.630 --> 01:21:04.810 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:21:04.990 --> 01:21:07.052 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to get in there and add stuff to fucking up. 01:21:07.913 --> 01:21:09.455 [SPEAKER_05]: But that's, no, that's, that's dope. 01:21:09.475 --> 01:21:13.138 [SPEAKER_06]: And then we're going to be doing that hopefully off everybody got one coming up or November. 01:21:13.299 --> 01:21:13.559 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:21:13.799 --> 01:21:14.039 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:21:14.120 --> 01:21:14.500 [SPEAKER_06]: Can't wait. 01:21:14.660 --> 01:21:15.020 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:21:15.081 --> 01:21:15.501 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so sorry. 01:21:15.521 --> 01:21:16.082 [SPEAKER_06]: That's been good. 01:21:16.162 --> 01:21:17.363 [SPEAKER_06]: And it's been around F1, right? 01:21:17.543 --> 01:21:27.171 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, around F1, we're going to have dinners, private dinners that we're not saying, where you have a fire site chats with the good conversations come out a little bit of the funny, a lot of shooting. 01:21:27.732 --> 01:21:32.756 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to teach people compartmentalized shootings, so they're taking the mile shot, which you can do pretty easily. 01:21:32.796 --> 01:21:33.657 [SPEAKER_05]: You got to just water and then 01:21:34.818 --> 01:21:49.434 [SPEAKER_05]: of the fighting the CQB for affected communication with the mix of all ones because what I like to do, what I would training at Seal Team 6 especially is give him a scenario and you're going to run through this scenario and here's the ending, however, it's not going to go the way you thought and how did you adjust and it's not past or fail. 01:21:49.454 --> 01:21:49.874 [SPEAKER_05]: What'd you do? 01:21:49.895 --> 01:21:50.695 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, you did that. 01:21:50.836 --> 01:21:51.216 [SPEAKER_05]: What happened? 01:21:51.496 --> 01:21:51.917 [SPEAKER_05]: What'd you learn? 01:21:52.077 --> 01:21:52.918 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, who cools down? 01:21:53.158 --> 01:21:53.959 [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's super cool. 01:21:53.999 --> 01:21:54.359 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:55.219 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's not a passion fail. 01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:56.860 [SPEAKER_05]: Like you learn a woman can be you. 01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:57.340 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's great. 01:21:57.641 --> 01:21:57.861 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:21:58.141 --> 01:21:58.641 [SPEAKER_05]: Because they can. 01:21:58.961 --> 01:21:59.622 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm telling you. 01:22:00.002 --> 01:22:01.643 [SPEAKER_06]: So that's what it's going to be. 01:22:01.663 --> 01:22:03.884 [SPEAKER_06]: No, but honestly, everybody gets tested. 01:22:04.044 --> 01:22:06.786 [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody can be put into or taken into deep water. 01:22:06.826 --> 01:22:08.126 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that's really important. 01:22:08.146 --> 01:22:08.307 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. 01:22:09.387 --> 01:22:26.923 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of people that go through these, you know, courses and, like I said, they, you know, they, they get a dishonest win and it's, they walk away and they're like, and I'm not sure that would work, you know, and, you know, I remember when we were talking about this before, let's take a dishonest win. 01:22:27.163 --> 01:22:30.626 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, dishonest win, but you were saying that there's also something dangerous about a monkey with a screwdriver. 01:22:31.366 --> 01:22:31.927 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's true. 01:22:32.227 --> 01:22:32.427 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:22:32.708 --> 01:22:33.428 [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody wants to fight them. 01:22:33.448 --> 01:22:34.029 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give it to you. 01:22:34.049 --> 01:22:34.809 [SPEAKER_06]: No, no exactly. 01:22:34.829 --> 01:22:53.546 [SPEAKER_06]: You don't have to be You know freaking Filipino martial arts like expert to be able to stab some stab it is super easy to stab somebody Yeah, it's so easy and it's and it's scary once you learn what you take all I've take somebody and you and you do a little bit of knife training 01:22:54.206 --> 01:22:58.830 [SPEAKER_06]: Man, it's I'm way more scared of a knife than I am in a of a god with the gun. 01:22:59.310 --> 01:23:00.271 [SPEAKER_06]: I can deal with the god with gun. 01:23:00.291 --> 01:23:03.814 [SPEAKER_06]: All I got to deal with is that little teeny tiny hole that's coming out of the end of it. 01:23:03.854 --> 01:23:05.916 [SPEAKER_06]: As long as I keep that off of me, no big deal. 01:23:05.936 --> 01:23:06.316 [SPEAKER_06]: A knife can go, Mr. 01:23:06.336 --> 01:23:16.344 [SPEAKER_06]: Rack, and then into this hand, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 01:23:16.892 --> 01:23:18.612 [SPEAKER_06]: is a prison check. 01:23:18.712 --> 01:23:20.433 [SPEAKER_06]: It's a prison rule, that's all it is. 01:23:20.633 --> 01:23:21.973 [SPEAKER_06]: And it is gnarly. 01:23:22.293 --> 01:23:25.694 [SPEAKER_06]: And dealing with that is, I mean, there's a video. 01:23:25.714 --> 01:23:30.455 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think there's a girl and she was in a taxi and for whatever reason, I don't know what happened. 01:23:30.515 --> 01:23:31.996 [SPEAKER_06]: She just starts stabbing the cab driver. 01:23:32.096 --> 01:23:39.957 [SPEAKER_06]: And the cab driver instinctively reaches back and grabs two hands on this knife that's going into into the top of them. 01:23:40.017 --> 01:23:46.039 [SPEAKER_06]: She grabs, you know, and all the girl does, I don't think she had any actual training in an eye funny, 01:23:47.193 --> 01:23:47.296 [UNKNOWN]: You 01:23:48.313 --> 01:23:49.974 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh, right? 01:23:50.815 --> 01:23:52.776 [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, yeah, this is real. 01:23:52.836 --> 01:23:55.478 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and you're getting so easy. 01:23:55.538 --> 01:23:57.660 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it's like, uh, scary. 01:23:58.020 --> 01:23:58.841 [SPEAKER_06]: Super scary. 01:23:58.861 --> 01:23:59.421 [SPEAKER_06]: Super scary. 01:23:59.461 --> 01:24:00.762 [SPEAKER_06]: So my back to strangers. 01:24:00.802 --> 01:24:02.263 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, don't listen. 01:24:02.303 --> 01:24:04.085 [SPEAKER_06]: Don't get in a car with a chick with a guy. 01:24:04.505 --> 01:24:05.846 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm not going to drive over. 01:24:05.906 --> 01:24:07.427 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to pick it up with a girl. 01:24:07.447 --> 01:24:09.929 [SPEAKER_05]: If I become an Uber driver, I'm going to be the option to the one now only dudes. 01:24:09.969 --> 01:24:10.829 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, only dudes. 01:24:11.010 --> 01:24:12.090 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, a lot of dudes. 01:24:12.531 --> 01:24:14.652 [SPEAKER_06]: And make sure you get that video camera on there. 01:24:14.712 --> 01:24:15.093 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God. 01:24:15.113 --> 01:24:15.693 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I do. 01:24:15.773 --> 01:24:16.614 [SPEAKER_06]: Do karaoke. 01:24:17.254 --> 01:24:17.814 [SPEAKER_05]: Cario. 01:24:18.595 --> 01:24:19.195 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, this is fun. 01:24:19.215 --> 01:24:21.817 [SPEAKER_05]: So we're going to we got one coming up here in November. 01:24:21.917 --> 01:24:22.137 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:22.537 --> 01:24:26.619 [SPEAKER_05]: And hopefully we can give a little shout out before, but I'm excited. 01:24:26.639 --> 01:24:28.240 [SPEAKER_05]: We got to do this again after to see how it went. 01:24:28.260 --> 01:24:29.100 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it would be super cool. 01:24:29.141 --> 01:24:30.761 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's good to get you in the studio. 01:24:31.002 --> 01:24:31.362 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, man. 01:24:31.442 --> 01:24:32.362 [SPEAKER_06]: That was all a long time. 01:24:32.382 --> 01:24:32.682 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:24:32.963 --> 01:24:33.623 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:24:33.663 --> 01:24:33.963 [SPEAKER_06]: We do. 01:24:34.123 --> 01:24:34.463 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:24:34.523 --> 01:24:40.387 [SPEAKER_06]: So, um, you know, it's it's super cool because I think 01:24:41.267 --> 01:24:50.270 [SPEAKER_06]: It had been probably what, seven, eight years since I'd seen you since the reunion and then we're just just, just, sorry to the New York. 01:24:50.430 --> 01:24:51.691 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, all right. 01:24:51.711 --> 01:24:53.311 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's do this more often now. 01:24:53.371 --> 01:24:54.792 [SPEAKER_05]: Way more often. 01:24:54.852 --> 01:24:56.912 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, thank you for stopping by the operator podcast. 01:24:56.992 --> 01:25:00.654 [SPEAKER_05]: And we got, um, operators collective apex product all kinds of stuff. 01:25:00.814 --> 01:25:01.934 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, to see them nights. 01:25:01.994 --> 01:25:02.974 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll let you see no nice. 01:25:03.014 --> 01:25:03.755 [SPEAKER_05]: Awesome, brother. 01:25:06.115 --> 01:25:07.456 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that is just exciting stuff. 01:25:08.819 --> 01:25:10.321 [SPEAKER_05]: What a great dude, too. 01:25:10.801 --> 01:25:17.448 [SPEAKER_05]: One of the original dudes that I met at CLTM 2 where I immediately think, sense of humor. 01:25:17.688 --> 01:25:22.313 [SPEAKER_05]: We got in Buds and then my CLTM 2, you check in and just being the fly on the wall is like, well, these dudes are funny. 01:25:22.353 --> 01:25:24.535 [SPEAKER_05]: You meet guys like Don Shepley. 01:25:24.595 --> 01:25:25.436 [SPEAKER_05]: Neil Roberts was there too. 01:25:25.456 --> 01:25:26.477 [SPEAKER_05]: Feefe was hell of a good dude. 01:25:27.425 --> 01:25:54.168 [SPEAKER_05]: uh... and then just moving moving forward uh... finding out the way life happens it's crazy when you think about it to you know scott mentioned that that he he got out in in two thousand one and that happens to a lot of dudes that that early on two thousand one you didn't quite realize that nine eleven is going to happen because you'd never i mean it's it's a typical thing where you know the shit you worry about is not stuff that's going to happen it's a stuff that randomly hits you like a lockdown in your government in the world the deep state decide you need to stay in your house and stay six feet apart 01:25:54.988 --> 01:26:00.112 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, a lot of guys did that and when you're when you're out processing from the military does take time and and guys didn't know what would happen. 01:26:00.132 --> 01:26:11.902 [SPEAKER_05]: So, but you had to figure think about this to with the butterfly effect because I always mentioned all the time, but I joined the Navy on accident and I, you know, I like think that everyone in my experience, you'll training shit like that. 01:26:13.483 --> 01:26:14.964 [SPEAKER_05]: everyone has a different story. 01:26:15.024 --> 01:26:17.145 [SPEAKER_05]: I'd love to hear dudes who quit at Buds to hear their stories. 01:26:17.205 --> 01:26:26.349 [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone has a decision that they made with the coolest thing is, including right now, every decision you have made in life led you to listening to this right now, the butterfly effect. 01:26:26.729 --> 01:26:27.890 [SPEAKER_05]: Everything happens for a reason. 01:26:27.970 --> 01:26:28.550 [SPEAKER_05]: That's why you're here. 01:26:28.570 --> 01:26:31.652 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's cool to hear what guys did and why and don't. 01:26:32.152 --> 01:26:34.793 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm giving myself my own advice right now out loud. 01:26:34.813 --> 01:26:36.614 [SPEAKER_05]: You can't get pissed off about shit that didn't go right. 01:26:37.034 --> 01:26:38.275 [SPEAKER_05]: Because you don't get that time back. 01:26:38.295 --> 01:26:39.636 [SPEAKER_05]: You're not getting it back to plays over. 01:26:40.096 --> 01:26:40.576 [SPEAKER_05]: Learn from it. 01:26:42.138 --> 01:26:42.898 [SPEAKER_05]: Learn from it, Rob. 01:26:43.839 --> 01:26:44.719 [SPEAKER_05]: Learn from it in Israel. 01:26:44.939 --> 01:26:51.101 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying that right now because it's just like you, men wake up, shit, right off the bat, doesn't go the way you plan, and then you get pissed about shit. 01:26:51.121 --> 01:26:53.522 [SPEAKER_05]: There's no reason to get mad about stuff that happened in the past, right away from it. 01:26:53.542 --> 01:26:58.104 [SPEAKER_05]: There, as my advice from me, don't forget to check out Operator's Collective. 01:26:58.684 --> 01:27:01.405 [SPEAKER_05]: That is my new company with these fabulous people. 01:27:01.425 --> 01:27:04.306 [SPEAKER_05]: And we will be in Las Vegas for a Pech Protocol. 01:27:04.326 --> 01:27:07.727 [SPEAKER_05]: You want to come to that, and it might be sold out, but the good thing about it, 01:27:08.427 --> 01:27:18.150 [SPEAKER_05]: is it's okay I'm going to break that down nicely so we're going to show up that we got a private suite on the top of the building they have big buildings with the seniors in the bottom but our suite at the top. 01:27:18.830 --> 01:27:34.014 [SPEAKER_05]: To on one of the turns for the F1 race which is going to be sick two days it's to caught a ranch and that shooting moving and communicating depends on how loud you can yell but it's we're going to have you hit a shot out to a mile with a sniper Ivel Nick Irvings going to be either the Reaper he'll be teaching that I will be teaching some 01:27:37.415 --> 01:27:41.936 [SPEAKER_05]: Navy seals fought in an entry point usually and that's that's our stuff. 01:27:41.956 --> 01:27:50.398 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's not the tactics it's more teaching the simplicity that once you get to a certain level you need to slow down and it's going to be faster. 01:27:50.418 --> 01:27:52.879 [SPEAKER_05]: If you want to be fast, slow the fuck down, slow the smooth smooth smooth smooth. 01:27:52.899 --> 01:27:54.499 [SPEAKER_05]: You hear that and redundant see stuff like that. 01:27:54.519 --> 01:27:58.500 [SPEAKER_05]: So I will be teaching essentially effective communication without speaking. 01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:01.901 [SPEAKER_05]: We will speak to do that shit and then we'll be doing some jujitsu. 01:28:03.161 --> 01:28:08.783 [SPEAKER_05]: teaching you how to fuck up actors that say to tougher than you and then we do have dragon-rich golf. 01:28:09.063 --> 01:28:12.624 [SPEAKER_05]: I got a new driver, so I'm saying. 01:28:12.984 --> 01:28:13.644 [SPEAKER_05]: Not a good golfer. 01:28:15.525 --> 01:28:19.726 [SPEAKER_05]: I threw my last driver into the trees at the second hole of a golf. 01:28:19.786 --> 01:28:21.187 [SPEAKER_05]: If you see it, it's a nice one. 01:28:21.267 --> 01:28:21.887 [SPEAKER_05]: It's black ops. 01:28:23.060 --> 01:28:23.760 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't work for me. 01:28:23.780 --> 01:28:25.601 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, it wasn't like an emotional thing. 01:28:25.621 --> 01:28:31.303 [SPEAKER_05]: There was a couple of days ago saying, if I top this thing four times in a row, I'm just gonna throw it in the trees. 01:28:31.423 --> 01:28:32.383 [SPEAKER_05]: It's definitely me. 01:28:33.343 --> 01:28:37.525 [SPEAKER_05]: Look, they make great clubs and engineers are smarter than I am. 01:28:37.945 --> 01:28:40.886 [SPEAKER_05]: If this one doesn't work for me, and I'm gonna fucking throw it. 01:28:42.146 --> 01:28:47.488 [SPEAKER_05]: If you can throw your club and still be dumb enough to go buy a new one, which means you can spend more of your time on the golf course. 01:28:48.848 --> 01:28:50.489 [SPEAKER_05]: But if I see you a dragon region, never out of the fight.