WEBVTT 00:00.655 --> 00:02.836 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get ready to talk to you. 00:06.236 --> 00:10.917 [SPEAKER_01]: This show is brought to you by The Mekery, the podcast Network for Mekers. 00:10.937 --> 00:22.740 [SPEAKER_03]: It's beautiful listeners of the Knife Talk podcast. 00:22.760 --> 00:24.200 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for joining us. 00:25.215 --> 00:29.460 [SPEAKER_03]: for another while, I don't know, I think we're gonna have a good show. 00:29.741 --> 00:33.826 [SPEAKER_03]: I need some laughs, and I think Jeff's got some stuff, and Craig's got some stuff lined up. 00:34.667 --> 00:37.991 [SPEAKER_03]: But my name first off is Marco Malmasev, Malmasev Fire Arts. 00:38.071 --> 00:40.434 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm here with Jeff Fader, Fader Knives. 00:40.915 --> 00:47.903 [SPEAKER_03]: And Craig Lockwooda chopped knives, we're here to keep you company in the shop, answer questions, troubleshoot life and whatever you got going on. 00:47.963 --> 00:51.487 [SPEAKER_03]: But wherever you're listening to us, we thank you very much for joining us. 00:52.869 --> 00:55.772 [SPEAKER_03]: And we'd like to kick it off by kind of recapping the last week. 00:55.893 --> 00:59.116 [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't here last week, but what have you guys been up to last week? 00:59.136 --> 01:00.238 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, how are you holding up? 01:01.025 --> 01:03.027 [SPEAKER_03]: Ugh, I'm just running all over the place. 01:03.067 --> 01:06.349 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I chicken with with my head cut off, running all over the place. 01:06.850 --> 01:11.673 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of in a weird position where I'm kind of representing myself with all this stuff going on. 01:12.514 --> 01:15.897 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's just a lot that I don't know, basically. 01:16.377 --> 01:23.262 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm just running around filing papers, mailing stuff, serving stuff, it's crazy. 01:24.403 --> 01:29.890 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a lot for my little brain to take in, especially with all again, like the legal jargon and all this shit. 01:30.451 --> 01:31.793 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's a lot. 01:32.354 --> 01:36.659 [SPEAKER_03]: And on top of that, I'm just trying to keep my head on in the shop and still get some shit done. 01:37.797 --> 01:37.997 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry. 01:38.017 --> 01:44.142 [SPEAKER_05]: And just we get a lot of messages, I did get a lot of messages sending their best vibes towards you. 01:44.182 --> 01:54.150 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to read them all because it just seems like, but to just so you can just look to back out everything up, I mean, you were represented and you had a pretty shitty thing happen when you were represented. 01:55.175 --> 02:03.861 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my attorney, unfortunately, had to withdraw from representing me, and because of health reasons. 02:04.401 --> 02:12.127 [SPEAKER_03]: And now I don't have anybody, and they didn't really have anybody to, they referred me to some people, but some of them, they're a serious conflict of interest. 02:12.567 --> 02:15.389 [SPEAKER_03]: He, he like, operated out of a firm that couldn't, 02:17.470 --> 02:21.911 [SPEAKER_03]: No apparently nobody else could pick up my case in that front. 02:21.931 --> 02:39.195 [SPEAKER_03]: So now I am without representation I am represented by myself in Google's Gemini AI and And I just yeah, it's but it's it's going okay so far, but I it's been going I've been doing this now for about 02:40.862 --> 02:51.728 [SPEAKER_03]: two months now or month, solid month and I'm starting to feel anxious because it's just like the deeper it goes, right? 02:52.188 --> 02:55.610 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, how long can I keep doing this with the AI? 02:55.630 --> 03:04.335 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to fucking get a lawyer because I'm just like, I'm honestly like, because I'm representing myself, the course and I can be like, fuck you go to jail. 03:04.815 --> 03:07.157 [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to, like, people are, I think they try 03:09.978 --> 03:23.358 [SPEAKER_03]: even though there are obviously some dirt bags out there, and so offer I think it benefited the doubt, but also at the same time, talk to you like you are a legal arbiter of the courts, and 03:24.720 --> 03:29.163 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is tricky because they're talking to you and I'm just like, I don't know what the fuck you just said. 03:30.083 --> 03:38.428 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, but outside of that, just trying to get some quality time with my kiddo and what is it? 03:38.568 --> 03:44.712 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, actually, I want to give a quick shout out to Ben, our friend, our friend Ben at EDC Gearhouse. 03:44.732 --> 03:48.334 [SPEAKER_03]: He actually before I brought this stuff up two weeks ago. 03:48.874 --> 03:50.215 [SPEAKER_03]: He'd actually messaged me. 03:50.275 --> 03:51.536 [SPEAKER_03]: He'd gotten an inkling. 03:51.956 --> 03:53.377 [SPEAKER_03]: His spidey sense was tingling. 03:54.137 --> 03:57.918 [SPEAKER_03]: and so he reached out and I just want to say thank you to him. 03:58.658 --> 04:01.659 [SPEAKER_03]: And then also another shout out to our friend, Evan Davis. 04:01.699 --> 04:02.899 [SPEAKER_03]: He's in cellitis knives. 04:04.780 --> 04:08.200 [SPEAKER_03]: He hit me up about some 3D modeling stuff. 04:08.760 --> 04:10.561 [SPEAKER_03]: Still trying to learn some of that modeling stuff. 04:10.601 --> 04:13.662 [SPEAKER_03]: I've still got that note from Ukraine for, what is it, Tinker Cadd? 04:14.562 --> 04:15.822 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, yeah. 04:16.342 --> 04:18.303 [SPEAKER_04]: It's very basic, yeah, that's a shortcut. 04:18.323 --> 04:21.103 [SPEAKER_04]: It's called it modeling software, but yeah, yeah. 04:24.365 --> 04:26.146 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I don't know other than that. 04:26.186 --> 04:31.312 [SPEAKER_03]: I've just been in the shop trying to be productive, even if it's just cleaning. 04:31.972 --> 04:34.455 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's been going well. 04:34.695 --> 04:39.740 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting ready to go up to Seattle to a music show tomorrow evening, which I'm excited about. 04:39.780 --> 04:41.101 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go see Tyler Childers. 04:41.802 --> 04:42.282 [SPEAKER_03]: Who's that? 04:42.743 --> 04:59.576 [SPEAKER_03]: Tyler Tilters is like a newer kind of like folk country senior songwriter kind of guy He's actually been around for quite a few years Basically gonna be there and our friend Gabe Fletcher Flying all the way down from anchors Alaska to come hanging out by the time you guys all hear this 05:00.348 --> 05:07.592 [SPEAKER_03]: concert will have coming on, but I'm looking forward to it and eating some good food and Seattle and kind of getting a day in Seattle. 05:07.992 --> 05:08.312 [SPEAKER_03]: Nice. 05:08.512 --> 05:12.755 [SPEAKER_03]: And just kind of trying to take my mind off the chaos of my good. 05:12.815 --> 05:13.135 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:13.815 --> 05:14.075 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:14.095 --> 05:14.236 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 05:14.596 --> 05:22.580 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, when I was taking care of my mother and getting her situated and doing all the social work stuff, you end up it's a lot of dread. 05:22.880 --> 05:27.383 [SPEAKER_05]: There's all with the excited you so much bureaucracy and paperwork to get her on Medicaid. 05:28.083 --> 05:34.208 [SPEAKER_05]: get her into this place and she's really, I mean, she's really quite in a bad situation and I had to do everything on my own. 05:34.929 --> 05:41.615 [SPEAKER_05]: You end up in a position of feeling a little bit more confident after the fact is all over. 05:41.755 --> 05:42.756 [SPEAKER_05]: It's hell. 05:42.876 --> 05:44.477 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure what you're going through as hell. 05:44.918 --> 05:47.119 [SPEAKER_05]: But like, when you get past my favorite, 05:47.900 --> 05:51.784 [SPEAKER_05]: When you get past it, I'm sure it's gonna you're gonna feel better about yourself. 05:52.164 --> 05:53.325 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's gonna have a lot of great. 05:53.385 --> 05:54.526 [SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna have a lot of great with the story. 05:54.546 --> 05:55.267 [SPEAKER_04]: I know, telling you. 05:57.609 --> 05:58.309 [SPEAKER_05]: Just telling you. 05:58.970 --> 05:59.530 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't I sound good? 05:59.571 --> 06:01.152 [SPEAKER_03]: Get a bit of a Steve super into that one. 06:01.813 --> 06:02.493 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly. 06:03.294 --> 06:04.515 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's that's Christ. 06:04.595 --> 06:05.636 [SPEAKER_03]: We're the gold L.L.M. 06:07.017 --> 06:07.257 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 06:07.277 --> 06:07.657 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah. 06:09.678 --> 06:10.419 [SPEAKER_04]: Craig, how are you? 06:11.739 --> 06:12.200 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good. 06:12.440 --> 06:12.760 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what? 06:12.800 --> 06:14.761 [SPEAKER_04]: It feels like two days ago since we last chatted. 06:14.881 --> 06:16.762 [SPEAKER_04]: This week is just like flown. 06:16.962 --> 06:18.022 [SPEAKER_04]: It's really gone fast. 06:18.623 --> 06:19.383 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 06:20.123 --> 06:23.005 [SPEAKER_04]: So Amy and my wife have started a new contract. 06:23.025 --> 06:24.806 [SPEAKER_04]: So she's just sort of been away a lot. 06:24.866 --> 06:25.006 [SPEAKER_04]: So 06:25.866 --> 06:28.229 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just been, you know, getting kids to score something, things out and all that. 06:28.309 --> 06:32.194 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just, the days have just been busy, busy, and it's just gone. 06:32.454 --> 06:36.039 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just, yeah, I can't believe it's been a week since we last chatted. 06:36.119 --> 06:39.944 [SPEAKER_04]: But, um, no good, good progress in the shop. 06:40.124 --> 06:43.128 [SPEAKER_04]: I told you last week, I'd put like a staircase in and things like that. 06:44.449 --> 06:53.858 [SPEAKER_04]: We had bats, because this isn't like in a barn with a shop, it's not like I'm in the studio, but it's and so on. 06:54.418 --> 07:04.668 [SPEAKER_04]: And I've seen bats flying in and out and I was like, oh geez, anyway, so I've cleaned the place out and I'm even rushing down the seal and stuff, look up and there's this, this bat. 07:05.368 --> 07:07.650 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so I'm like, right, okay, all the lights go on. 07:08.848 --> 07:12.329 [SPEAKER_04]: Running extension cords all the way down there because the electricity isn't run there yet. 07:12.529 --> 07:16.971 [SPEAKER_04]: So running extension cords, put music on, it's loud as I can, as to where they're trying to get this battered. 07:18.132 --> 07:20.412 [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, it's not, it's not working, so I'm like, right, okay. 07:21.253 --> 07:22.393 [SPEAKER_04]: And you get a big pole. 07:22.653 --> 07:23.854 [SPEAKER_04]: I can stick a bucket underneath. 07:24.154 --> 07:24.434 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 07:24.454 --> 07:26.695 [SPEAKER_04]: I get a big pole of what I've seen. 07:26.775 --> 07:31.036 [SPEAKER_04]: If you hit them, because they're still half asleep, they'll just fall down straight into a bucket. 07:31.357 --> 07:32.017 [SPEAKER_04]: Cover the bucket. 07:32.057 --> 07:33.077 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't you just stay at it. 07:33.097 --> 07:33.557 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much. 07:33.577 --> 07:34.178 [SPEAKER_04]: Take a look at that. 07:35.318 --> 07:36.599 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, Gemini. 07:36.879 --> 07:38.561 [SPEAKER_05]: Gemini's for you. 07:38.581 --> 07:40.162 [SPEAKER_05]: Gemini, you lost her? 07:40.702 --> 07:42.343 [SPEAKER_04]: Peski troll and Loffer. 07:43.364 --> 07:51.150 [SPEAKER_04]: So I said, well, mice and particularly bats, I hate them. 07:51.330 --> 07:52.711 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like petrified of them. 07:52.911 --> 07:53.792 [SPEAKER_04]: Petrified, right? 07:54.492 --> 07:58.693 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like So my wife I said you can you come out with me. 07:58.793 --> 08:11.396 [SPEAKER_04]: I said I'll knock it down when it lands the bucket you put the you put the lid on we're sorted, you know, oh, she's got to catch it in the bucket Yeah, it's actually a fucking carnival game Bad Yeah, it's a bad one to drop in the bucket go ahead 08:15.757 --> 08:19.378 [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, we go to do it now, so I start moving this and I'm feeling sick. 08:19.458 --> 08:20.478 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm so scared of bats. 08:20.518 --> 08:21.198 [SPEAKER_04]: I hate them right. 08:21.459 --> 08:28.200 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm moving this pole and before he got close to him, his head sort of spun round and he just sort of jumped out, right? 08:38.803 --> 08:42.426 [SPEAKER_04]: So anyway, the bat is now gone back in and me to come back asleep again. 08:42.466 --> 09:01.361 [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know what we're gonna do with this bat I don't know, but there's no way I'm I'm spending any time in that room until the bat's out Reminds me your spider situation Yes, yeah I mean, I'm all right with spiders, but my rats bats those no, they're not for me not for me really. 09:01.521 --> 09:02.622 [SPEAKER_03]: They're just like flying mice 09:04.505 --> 09:06.769 [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly, that's terrifying terror. 09:07.691 --> 09:09.735 [SPEAKER_04]: So that's what you just don't want them kissing you 09:11.201 --> 09:20.743 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, oh, God, yeah, I'm a COVID, but yeah, that was, that was this afternoon and it's just been, it's just been tidying up that shop, reading it and getting everything ready. 09:20.783 --> 09:24.144 [SPEAKER_04]: So the idea is that the shoot is going to be above shop below. 09:26.245 --> 09:27.365 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it's a nice space. 09:27.385 --> 09:30.926 [SPEAKER_04]: I've got all the, you know, the bench tools all laid out. 09:30.946 --> 09:31.786 [SPEAKER_04]: Everything's ready to go. 09:32.126 --> 09:35.287 [SPEAKER_04]: Just waiting on this electric and it's just taken a long, a lot longer than I'd hoped. 09:36.167 --> 09:41.969 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but yeah, it's, it's all good and it's exciting and I've got these, I've got this, like, like, industrial draws. 09:42.570 --> 09:56.235 [SPEAKER_04]: I got from like, from this sale and, um, so I've got all my stuff in these drawers, you know, so there's like, I've got, like, blanks in there, I've got, you know, liners in there, but hang on materials in there and stuff and everything's just in order and it's just like, I just can't wait to go, you know, I just need electricity now. 09:56.315 --> 10:03.698 [SPEAKER_04]: So, um, as I'm running the extension leads there at the moment just to get light in there, but I don't know, I could run, you know, sheans off them, you know. 10:04.210 --> 10:05.430 [SPEAKER_04]: But no, it's all good. 10:05.490 --> 10:05.950 [SPEAKER_04]: It's all good. 10:05.970 --> 10:07.831 [SPEAKER_04]: I said the weakest from home by. 10:08.111 --> 10:19.073 [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, it is hilarious and incredible coincidence that you've said this, because I just came back from the police department. 10:20.033 --> 10:24.533 [SPEAKER_05]: And I wanted to tell you all about it. 10:24.613 --> 10:30.114 [SPEAKER_05]: Before I tell you about it, this radio T's sponsor by even manufacturers of the finest he treat ovens available. 10:30.474 --> 10:33.035 [SPEAKER_05]: Find your next oven at evenheet-killand.com. 10:33.655 --> 10:43.179 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the reason why I went to the police department is because I came home yesterday and my wife says, don't go through the back door, it's how we go the back door to the house, to the backyard. 10:43.659 --> 10:46.940 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a skunk in the backyard and he's staggering. 10:47.921 --> 10:49.041 [SPEAKER_05]: So, what does that mean? 10:49.061 --> 10:52.243 [SPEAKER_05]: She's like, well, he might be sick or a rabbit or whatever. 10:53.063 --> 10:55.844 [SPEAKER_05]: So, I went to the front and all night long, she's just like, we can't go to the hospital. 10:55.884 --> 11:00.346 [SPEAKER_05]: can I get sprayed again or the dogs might get it and might think I'm gonna fucking wrap it. 11:00.886 --> 11:03.207 [SPEAKER_05]: So all night long, it was in blah, blah, blah. 11:03.327 --> 11:07.069 [SPEAKER_05]: So this morning, he went out to the front yard and just found a spot. 11:08.304 --> 11:26.740 [SPEAKER_05]: died right so i'm thinking of myself well i'm not gonna i don't pick this fucking thing up and i don't even know what you do with it with a dead scum can i don't want to i don't know what is this a goddamn but you know water balloon full of fumes i don't know why i don't want i don't want to do anything it's gonna it's like a my i don't know what we said i'm off 11:27.260 --> 11:27.821 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 11:27.841 --> 11:32.425 [SPEAKER_05]: So, so we, so I kind of start with, I'll call the city. 11:32.465 --> 11:36.188 [SPEAKER_05]: The city has an APO, an ACO, animal control officer. 11:36.528 --> 11:39.471 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I left a message and then thought, all right, I left a message, gave my information. 11:39.491 --> 11:44.415 [SPEAKER_05]: Right on the front door, I used to do his grab it and go and went back for lunch and still there. 11:44.495 --> 11:45.476 [SPEAKER_05]: Goddamn thing, still there. 11:45.896 --> 11:50.060 [SPEAKER_05]: So, I decided to go down to the police department and see if I can find somebody. 11:50.100 --> 11:52.042 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm usually the city take care of the stuff, right? 11:52.082 --> 11:52.282 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, 11:54.804 --> 12:00.306 [SPEAKER_05]: So go to the front desk with all the, you know, drug addicts and just, you know, be wild. 12:00.866 --> 12:02.446 [SPEAKER_05]: And they actually got the scum. 12:02.486 --> 12:03.807 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 12:03.987 --> 12:04.827 [SPEAKER_05]: So who do I size it? 12:05.187 --> 12:06.388 [SPEAKER_05]: Is the ACL around? 12:06.888 --> 12:09.248 [SPEAKER_05]: I said, you know, I got this dead scum from my front yard. 12:09.689 --> 12:12.810 [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, we don't know if it's rabbit or whatever. 12:12.890 --> 12:16.831 [SPEAKER_05]: And he says, well, the animal control officer's not in today. 12:17.511 --> 12:20.352 [SPEAKER_05]: But once you just put it in a garbage bag, like, what? 12:20.892 --> 12:26.254 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, skit your shovel, put him in a garbage bag, and move left-leave him for the garbage guys. 12:26.334 --> 12:27.455 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, you can do that. 12:27.675 --> 12:28.835 [SPEAKER_05]: You can't leave a fucking dead. 12:28.855 --> 12:29.735 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, yeah, why not? 12:29.756 --> 12:31.116 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, I'm not gonna say anything. 12:31.156 --> 12:31.756 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the police. 12:32.096 --> 12:36.378 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I'm like, so we call my wife, and I said, let's just show, show Pashy, isn't it? 12:36.418 --> 12:37.438 [SPEAKER_05]: It's might as well be. 12:37.599 --> 12:39.319 [SPEAKER_05]: They're all like, you know, these guy, I'm telling you. 12:39.339 --> 12:42.520 [SPEAKER_05]: These guys are just like, what the, what the, you know, once you're just, he's not gonna be here tomorrow. 12:42.560 --> 12:45.061 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll just put him in a garbage bag, you know, and leave him for the garbage. 12:45.081 --> 12:48.003 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, leaving this fucking skunk in a garbage bag for the week. 12:49.343 --> 12:55.525 [SPEAKER_05]: It's probably a life they told them, tell them what, tell them what, tell them what, tell them they told you about it and she goes, well you're not going to do that, and like why not? 12:55.946 --> 13:04.869 [SPEAKER_05]: Well my wife, I have to say it again, my wife is a double masters in nursing and epidemiology. 13:05.509 --> 13:10.732 [SPEAKER_05]: She hangs out with the head of Epidemiologists in the area. 13:11.172 --> 13:13.334 [SPEAKER_05]: So she's having a while of this whole thing happen. 13:13.574 --> 13:25.941 [SPEAKER_05]: She's having lunch with the main Epidemiologist of the hospital, and they're on Google to see what the World Health Organization or the Health Department says about getting rid of scunks. 13:26.581 --> 13:39.345 [SPEAKER_05]: To get rid of a skunk based on all this guy's name stuff, I would have had to have where I could space suit and then, and then, deep, I mean, it's like, and I'm like, you know, social television, I don't want you to take, I don't want you to touch it because it could be rabid. 13:39.845 --> 13:43.767 [SPEAKER_05]: Now, the reason why it's funny is because years ago, we had a bat in the house. 13:44.387 --> 14:08.579 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-oh and he kind of like the only reason when we knew is because the cat was jumping up on the bed trying to get it And they've bat was flying around the room and then he when I got up he I guess I didn't realize it and he kind of scraped against my head Well, we went to get rabies shots and the rabies and the rabies so so now We're gonna we gotta we gotta pay a guy to take care of this fucking skunk 14:09.237 --> 14:10.218 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, geez. 14:10.338 --> 14:12.099 [SPEAKER_05]: So what the, I don't know. 14:12.319 --> 14:13.981 [SPEAKER_05]: I said Hillary, I'm like, he's right there. 14:14.281 --> 14:14.661 [SPEAKER_05]: He's right. 14:14.681 --> 14:17.203 [SPEAKER_05]: They can, you know, pay the guy and take the way. 14:17.223 --> 14:17.923 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what to say. 14:17.943 --> 14:18.584 [SPEAKER_05]: He told me to touch it. 14:18.604 --> 14:19.725 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to touch it. 14:19.885 --> 14:20.125 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. 14:20.385 --> 14:22.427 [SPEAKER_05]: But I mean, you know, pay the guy and get rid of it. 14:22.827 --> 14:26.650 [SPEAKER_05]: Now, it's all the listeners were right about to write what a pussy I am. 14:27.590 --> 14:45.659 [SPEAKER_05]: Fuck you like I don't I don't give a if I have to listen to someone with the double masters from Columbia and one of the things is communicable diseases And I'm going to listen to some fucking ding-dong off the internet who am I going to listen to who am I going to listen to you? 14:45.819 --> 14:47.700 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't all fair you such a pussy. 14:47.740 --> 14:52.743 [SPEAKER_05]: I come over there and a tongue kiss that fucking ding Revive his ass and 14:53.463 --> 14:56.744 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, kiss him a few times and punch him in the face. 14:57.124 --> 15:01.746 [SPEAKER_05]: I know, I'm not doing it, so, but it's hilarious because it's like these goddamn animals. 15:02.386 --> 15:07.148 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you have the send in your credentials first before you offer any advice. 15:07.168 --> 15:08.849 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't, I don't want it. 15:09.449 --> 15:12.890 [SPEAKER_05]: I get to some anytime, as soon as you're such a pussy, fuck you. 15:13.350 --> 15:15.951 [SPEAKER_05]: You come over here and fuck you, take it. 15:15.991 --> 15:17.792 [SPEAKER_05]: You take the skunk and turn it into a pillow. 15:17.812 --> 15:18.632 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't give a shit. 15:19.452 --> 15:20.153 [SPEAKER_05]: Disgusting. 15:21.033 --> 15:23.575 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you just need Craig over there with a pole. 15:23.595 --> 15:25.117 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, I know what pops. 15:25.377 --> 15:27.439 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he runs away, you're stuck with the gas. 15:27.779 --> 15:29.380 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just going to rateful for the fact. 15:29.580 --> 15:35.405 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm grateful for the fact, and I'm getting to, I'm getting someone to tell me not to do it. 15:36.046 --> 15:37.647 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, Hillary's just like, you're not touching it. 15:38.047 --> 15:38.727 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, great. 15:38.747 --> 15:39.527 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay. 15:39.907 --> 15:40.908 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, darn it. 15:41.288 --> 15:41.908 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't. 15:41.928 --> 15:44.909 [SPEAKER_05]: That was really, that was all fired up to give it a smooch. 15:45.770 --> 15:48.791 [SPEAKER_05]: No, this fucking scunk got damn it, hate the scunks. 15:49.451 --> 15:50.131 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the way it is. 15:50.571 --> 15:55.533 [SPEAKER_05]: But we're super busy over here still, I'm catching up and then I'm getting ready. 15:55.813 --> 15:57.974 [SPEAKER_05]: When this comes out, this is the week of Maker Camp. 15:58.054 --> 16:00.215 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm getting ready to do Maker Camp. 16:01.575 --> 16:10.821 [SPEAKER_05]: All the tourmek guys have been touching base the tourmek guys They're sending all their stuff to me so they can pick it up to bring it to make her camp And I'm dealing I'm gonna do a big demo with them. 16:10.861 --> 16:29.832 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna do a demo with with total boat And that's fun those guys are great and then the modern forge guys were all gonna be forging stuff So I think I'm supposed to be forging a butterfly knife, but I'm not 100% sure it's perfectly legal So I have to decide what I'm gonna do So she's the part of how does it run assembly excuse me 16:33.060 --> 16:38.647 [SPEAKER_03]: I was just saying, what if you just forge the parts and do not assemble it? 16:39.168 --> 16:50.522 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I'm just gonna fuck around because it's like it's not like you've been there people are standing there for watching things get forged I might just forge a piece here forge a piece there 16:51.082 --> 16:54.387 [SPEAKER_05]: And I might just forge some chef knives that I'm going to need for the shop anyway. 16:54.967 --> 17:02.877 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to be available and I'm going to have shirts and I'm trying to make some low-eady scene knives to sell for Christmas bonuses on that. 17:05.467 --> 17:06.528 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. 17:06.548 --> 17:07.669 [SPEAKER_05]: It's always good to see everybody. 17:07.689 --> 17:09.672 [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many listeners of this podcast. 17:09.692 --> 17:12.274 [SPEAKER_05]: You're listening to who go to make your camp. 17:12.294 --> 17:13.296 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's always very fun. 17:13.336 --> 17:16.099 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to be representing you over there. 17:17.020 --> 17:17.440 [SPEAKER_05]: Greco. 17:17.460 --> 17:18.621 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'll tell everybody. 17:18.681 --> 17:19.723 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm representing you. 17:20.243 --> 17:21.344 [SPEAKER_05]: OK, for the Lifetime. 17:21.825 --> 17:22.506 [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it. 17:23.006 --> 17:24.988 [SPEAKER_05]: You've been there at the past, you've had a good time. 17:25.328 --> 17:27.190 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what we're showing. 17:27.290 --> 17:29.192 [SPEAKER_05]: This year is not a good year for that. 17:29.672 --> 17:31.914 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's perfectly understandable. 17:32.215 --> 17:33.456 [SPEAKER_05]: It's perfectly understandable. 17:33.516 --> 17:34.277 [SPEAKER_05]: How long did you know? 17:34.297 --> 17:34.957 [SPEAKER_04]: How long did you know? 17:35.057 --> 17:35.658 [SPEAKER_04]: Just a good couple. 17:35.918 --> 17:38.681 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's over a long weekend. 17:38.781 --> 17:43.645 [SPEAKER_05]: So usually people, you know, a lot of people get up there Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then Monday, people leave. 17:43.725 --> 17:46.348 [SPEAKER_05]: But I usually get up there funny enough. 17:46.648 --> 17:47.809 [SPEAKER_05]: So I usually get there. 17:48.970 --> 18:12.656 [SPEAKER_05]: Saturday morning and they'll leave Saturdays, you know, yeah, as soon as I can Funny enough, we the first year of Maker Camp We are going to go and I was talking about it on this podcast that God for this podcast Because they were telling us that we got to sleep in a tent and I started throwing myself around on Early episodes in 18:13.016 --> 18:16.057 [SPEAKER_05]: These goddamn guys, I don't want me to sleep on a 10 hour off too often. 18:16.077 --> 18:18.178 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not much sleep in a goddamn tent. 18:18.318 --> 18:27.902 [SPEAKER_05]: By the time my Monday afternoon, they got a whole cabin for me, John, Cliff, Carrey, and we got to see cabin every year where we were going to cabin. 18:27.922 --> 18:32.724 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's funny, so I got to use a little bit of, I pushed myself around a little bit. 18:33.064 --> 18:34.105 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't you know why I am? 18:34.645 --> 18:38.027 [SPEAKER_05]: I know it was more along, it was trying to be like Howard Stern-Cleaning, he's going on the fucking thing. 18:38.047 --> 18:40.069 [SPEAKER_05]: Want me to come up here and I'm going to sleep in Goddamn tent. 18:40.369 --> 18:40.889 [SPEAKER_05]: How you think? 18:40.929 --> 18:45.292 [SPEAKER_05]: How bad you think I'm to smell after forging all day and getting in a tent and you out of your mind. 18:46.132 --> 18:48.414 [SPEAKER_05]: The next thing you know, it's you know, high class. 18:51.224 --> 18:56.546 [SPEAKER_05]: So what we got, what we got this week, we have a ton of stuff we had and we can whatever you guys want. 18:56.866 --> 19:01.727 [SPEAKER_05]: We have questions, our listeners went to Night Talk podcast Instagram, they sent us questions. 19:01.787 --> 19:04.148 [SPEAKER_05]: They sent us feedback, they sent us audio messages. 19:04.668 --> 19:08.349 [SPEAKER_05]: They've started to send us the ultimate tips, we're going to do the ultimate tips. 19:08.389 --> 19:11.650 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought maybe we could do, if you wanted, we could do a preview of ultimate tips. 19:12.570 --> 19:16.672 [SPEAKER_05]: Also, Craig started a firestorm last week, Morocco. 19:17.673 --> 19:19.594 [SPEAKER_05]: Craig made a decision made an idea. 19:19.614 --> 19:22.776 [SPEAKER_05]: Had an idea that people should send in their worst accidents. 19:22.856 --> 19:24.397 [SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to call it worse accidents. 19:24.457 --> 19:25.877 [SPEAKER_05]: It's called the Darwin Award. 19:25.897 --> 19:26.878 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like the stupidest. 19:26.898 --> 19:27.278 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh. 19:27.578 --> 19:31.180 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a stupidest thing you've done in the shop or in life. 19:31.340 --> 19:31.560 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 19:31.640 --> 19:32.461 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't say in life. 19:32.801 --> 19:34.381 [SPEAKER_04]: It'll be any life, because that'll be funny. 19:34.461 --> 19:35.522 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yeah, it's life. 19:35.642 --> 19:36.382 [SPEAKER_05]: It'll give me anything. 19:36.722 --> 19:44.404 [SPEAKER_05]: So we got a number of those and some of them are very funny So I figured we could preview that a little bit get people fired up Really whatever you guys want to do. 19:44.504 --> 19:45.044 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 19:45.064 --> 19:51.606 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's start with just a question or two, but before we do I'll give it a tip head on over to maritimeknifesupply.com 19:52.586 --> 19:56.110 [SPEAKER_04]: Because Larson's a good dude, he's got everything you could possibly need. 19:56.290 --> 19:59.013 [SPEAKER_04]: Steels, have the materials, tools, abrasives. 19:59.333 --> 19:59.894 [SPEAKER_04]: It's all there. 20:00.334 --> 20:04.058 [SPEAKER_04]: Maritime knife-supply.com. 20:04.178 --> 20:06.000 [SPEAKER_04]: Also, Maritime knife-supply on Instagram. 20:06.080 --> 20:11.486 [SPEAKER_04]: Go take a look because he's always got new stuff, always exciting stuff, and yeah, good prices. 20:11.526 --> 20:11.887 [SPEAKER_04]: Have a look. 20:12.187 --> 20:13.889 [SPEAKER_04]: Have a look at Maritime knife-supply.com. 20:14.269 --> 20:17.612 [SPEAKER_05]: Before we start, I just want to talk to the listener, the listeners. 20:18.673 --> 20:25.179 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm aware, sometimes we have some audio issues, there's leveling out, sometimes somebody, you know, we're going to work it out. 20:25.199 --> 20:30.784 [SPEAKER_05]: So, right now we're going to set up, we're going to stand up straight, we're going to get a closer to the mic and everything like that. 20:30.804 --> 20:36.990 [SPEAKER_05]: I heard you guys, and then just let you know if you hear boop beep boop in the background, you're not crazy. 20:37.310 --> 20:39.312 [SPEAKER_05]: Craig is double, he's double fisting it. 20:39.752 --> 20:44.215 [SPEAKER_05]: He's, he's, he's, he's, he's podcasting and printing. 20:44.275 --> 20:48.458 [SPEAKER_05]: So the beep boob beep is our man, our captain Craig Lockwood. 20:48.938 --> 20:51.199 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, cool, cool, cool. 20:51.219 --> 20:53.001 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, should I start out with the first question? 20:53.021 --> 20:55.762 [SPEAKER_04]: Please, um, empty, 20:56.963 --> 21:03.466 [SPEAKER_04]: MTM creations or MTM creations, I'm not quite sure what it is, on Instagram, send us a question. 21:04.387 --> 21:12.031 [SPEAKER_04]: I know there's a general rule for Anvilheight, knuckles on the face when hangin by a side, is it an equivalent for the height of your grinders, Platten? 21:13.111 --> 21:14.012 [SPEAKER_04]: Good question. 21:14.292 --> 21:14.952 [SPEAKER_04]: Good question. 21:15.012 --> 21:15.293 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 21:15.573 --> 21:15.753 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 21:17.952 --> 21:21.235 [SPEAKER_04]: And when I first started, mine were pretty low. 21:21.255 --> 21:24.819 [SPEAKER_04]: They were on just general sort of deskites, my grinders, you know. 21:25.880 --> 21:32.386 [SPEAKER_04]: And I was finding, I was just arching over a lot, and I had my neck down, and I'd just be all stiff after a few hours on that. 21:33.247 --> 21:36.830 [SPEAKER_04]: So I've raised mine up, so it sounds probably a bit more dangerous. 21:37.171 --> 21:41.194 [SPEAKER_04]: But my platen is generally just below my sort of eye line. 21:41.895 --> 21:44.196 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just really, yeah, it's half of it. 21:44.356 --> 21:47.598 [SPEAKER_04]: It's half of the middle high, the Platten. 21:47.638 --> 21:53.820 [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I use a work rest, I get a little table, you know. 21:54.441 --> 21:56.322 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's generally just below my eyes. 21:57.602 --> 22:00.745 [SPEAKER_04]: So what, you know, all my grinding is done almost, I highly, really. 22:01.065 --> 22:01.545 [SPEAKER_04]: Quite high. 22:01.606 --> 22:03.267 [SPEAKER_05]: So your arms are up high? 22:03.347 --> 22:07.390 [SPEAKER_04]: My arms are up, my arms are up high, but my neck isn't bent down as much. 22:08.731 --> 22:13.675 [SPEAKER_04]: And I found that, I was found that I could, I'd be more comfortable for longer time doing it that way. 22:14.976 --> 22:23.343 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, when I first started, I literally just had on that, you know, was a general desk, is what 80cm, 800mm, and I found that was just way too low for me. 22:23.363 --> 22:26.205 [SPEAKER_04]: I was really sort of arching over and getting bad back in neck. 22:27.537 --> 22:30.883 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow, that's great. 22:30.903 --> 22:38.497 [SPEAKER_04]: What you guys, what I mean, you guys, how are you, rather than height, talk about, you know, in your sort of body line, where are you grinding into? 22:39.118 --> 22:39.979 [SPEAKER_03]: Braco, what do you think? 22:40.877 --> 22:51.141 [SPEAKER_03]: I think, Jen, I've never really measured it, but I do try to adjust it so that I can look directly down my platen from the top wheel. 22:52.421 --> 22:57.163 [SPEAKER_03]: So the belt's coming around that top wheel before it hits the platen, I want to be able to look straight down. 22:57.203 --> 23:07.407 [SPEAKER_03]: Now I've adjusted that to where I tilt my platen at just a slight angle, so I can still look down it, but I'm not creating my neck as far and I'm using 23:08.247 --> 23:24.622 [SPEAKER_03]: these things called eyeballs to look down rather than craning my neck down and, um, but I think typically where I'm doing my grinding, I was actually just kind of phantom grinding in front of my computer right there, uh, pretending I'm grinding a knife, not anything I grinded. 23:25.502 --> 23:32.210 [SPEAKER_03]: and um my I think the middle of the platen is just about my sternum height. 23:32.710 --> 23:35.614 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm pushing it like where my sternum is on my chest. 23:36.154 --> 23:42.702 [SPEAKER_03]: That's where I'm forced like if I were to shove some muddy or like I played a lot of sports growing up so shoving was really important. 23:43.542 --> 23:52.004 [SPEAKER_03]: Part especially playing American football and if I'm gonna shove somebody I'm not my hands aren't down by like my belly button But they're also not up by my ears. 23:52.024 --> 23:58.006 [SPEAKER_03]: They're kind of right in the middle of my chest at my sternum Yeah, so that's roughly the same as me. 23:58.086 --> 23:58.766 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay. 23:58.946 --> 24:06.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I like it there because if I really need to hog on something I put a lot of force and pressure on it for me. 24:06.368 --> 24:10.309 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very comfortable and familiar place to apply that force 24:13.038 --> 24:25.281 [SPEAKER_05]: I like this question because the interesting thing about just getting back the handle thing, the handle thing, the height of the handle is really a guideline based on, you know, it's like the average. 24:26.114 --> 24:31.596 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, forging an anvil, the anvil height should be based on what you're doing. 24:31.796 --> 24:37.718 [SPEAKER_05]: So if you have a striker, you'll see a lot of guys have anvil very, very low. 24:38.178 --> 24:47.481 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's because they're using a striker, and if they're striking really hard, you don't want anvil that's very high because you want to maximize that swing of the anvil. 24:47.501 --> 24:50.702 [SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of times, an anvil will be based off of what you're doing. 24:52.182 --> 25:16.955 [SPEAKER_05]: I used to like my anvil higher than the knuckles and now I'm getting myself a little bit on a lower side But I actually had made tables and then I made I bumped my grind for my grinder I used to have my grinder at a table level and then I found myself wanting it basically The midpoint of the platten to be kind of the midpoint of the platten is a little bit lower than my chest 25:17.635 --> 25:27.041 [SPEAKER_05]: So I try to, I guess with the way I do it is I'll stand and then I'll put my arms into my body and then I'll raise my wrists up. 25:27.361 --> 25:28.541 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll raise my elbows. 25:28.642 --> 25:30.623 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll raise my arms for my elbows. 25:31.023 --> 25:33.384 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's where I'm kind of in the position. 25:33.404 --> 25:34.885 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm kind of like mid chest. 25:35.025 --> 25:36.806 [SPEAKER_05]: Kind of similar to Morocco. 25:36.826 --> 25:39.708 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's really, that is a really good question. 25:39.748 --> 25:45.892 [SPEAKER_05]: And actually, frankly, it's also very good when you're talking about other equipment like the tourmic. 25:46.472 --> 25:52.678 [SPEAKER_05]: The Tormic, you really want to make sure it's not, you're going to be more comfortable if you change the position of the Tormic. 25:53.318 --> 25:56.701 [SPEAKER_05]: And one of the reasons why, it's similar to the Platinum. 25:56.721 --> 26:01.866 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if you have a Platinum, I mean, especially if you're using the Broadbex, you have a lot of room on the Platinum. 26:01.886 --> 26:03.487 [SPEAKER_05]: So you want to, I like to be in the middle. 26:04.328 --> 26:08.191 [SPEAKER_05]: So my hand, my grinder is a little bit higher than an normal table. 26:09.352 --> 26:10.934 [SPEAKER_05]: The interesting thing about a Tormic 26:12.395 --> 26:23.381 [SPEAKER_05]: But I think that this is one thing if people don't realize is you want to see the top of the tourmic wheel for sharpening your knives at the height if you were to use a wetstone. 26:23.841 --> 26:32.866 [SPEAKER_05]: So like I actually drop my tourmex down so I'm not like up up with my elbows and so I'm like a little bit more in a comfortable position. 26:33.326 --> 26:34.527 [SPEAKER_05]: But that's huge. 26:34.727 --> 26:41.831 [SPEAKER_05]: All these equipment, it's like, you know, what I use the expression of welding, it's not about just pulling the trigger and it starts to weld. 26:42.151 --> 26:43.551 [SPEAKER_05]: You got to be comfortable. 26:43.611 --> 26:49.455 [SPEAKER_05]: So the more comfortable a position that you're in, the better you're going to be in the long run. 26:49.775 --> 26:55.778 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's, I think it's a great question, but I'm interested in the fact that Craig, your grind or platinum is so high. 26:56.783 --> 27:14.897 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I mean, when Marek was saying then, he's sort of sternum, it is maybe just an intro to above that, you know, it's, oh, so I can still sort of look down, but, um, but it's not, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm still for it, you know, yeah, you're on your tiptoes with your nose on the top of the work rest, exactly. 27:15.057 --> 27:15.938 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, nothing like that. 27:17.247 --> 27:19.488 [SPEAKER_04]: But what I do like, I do like my drill press. 27:19.528 --> 27:21.408 [SPEAKER_04]: I like that table to be right at eye height. 27:21.468 --> 27:25.289 [SPEAKER_04]: So when something grabs, it comes down to you right in the chops, you know? 27:25.629 --> 27:26.710 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, right in the mouth. 27:27.010 --> 27:29.290 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's Darwin Awards time right there. 27:29.310 --> 27:30.731 [SPEAKER_05]: That is, yeah. 27:31.931 --> 27:34.432 [SPEAKER_03]: When it comes to an animal height, if you're doing a lot of, 27:35.393 --> 27:44.366 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like if you're doing a lot of dick-tonguing, wouldn't you want the top of the envelope to be right there at that, so the tongs are parallel to the ground? 27:44.647 --> 27:45.408 [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking good! 27:45.989 --> 27:49.854 [SPEAKER_05]: We have to do a knife-talk time machine. 27:50.815 --> 27:52.777 [SPEAKER_05]: to tell people what Diktong he is. 27:53.478 --> 27:57.522 [SPEAKER_05]: Diktonging is an incredibly important blacksmithing. 27:57.542 --> 28:06.511 [SPEAKER_05]: I heard it as the third hand, but Diktong is actually the more appropriate term, so congratulations. 28:06.531 --> 28:07.912 [SPEAKER_05]: I completely forgot about Diktonging. 28:08.613 --> 28:11.474 [SPEAKER_04]: They're trying to call it an extel to in that. 28:11.774 --> 28:14.114 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he does it, but y'all don't think he calls it that. 28:14.154 --> 28:16.575 [SPEAKER_05]: I think he probably calls it the undercarriage. 28:16.755 --> 28:19.896 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, Kiegel's grip or something like that. 28:19.916 --> 28:28.458 [SPEAKER_05]: So, so basically, if you're like, let's say you have a piece of steel, and you're trying to mark a whole, for a market, center punch, she's hot. 28:28.978 --> 28:44.104 [SPEAKER_05]: you have your tongs in a pair of tongs, you have your steel that's hot in a pair of tongs and you want to rest, you want the height to be if the piece of steel is in the tongs that the tong handle is up under your balls. 28:44.704 --> 28:47.645 [SPEAKER_05]: So you're able to kind of stabilize the knife, 28:48.085 --> 28:57.292 [SPEAKER_05]: or the stabilize the piece of steel where it's parallel to the table and your balls are parallel to the top of the table. 28:57.312 --> 29:03.116 [SPEAKER_05]: So really, yeah, Dick Tonging probably is the greatest measurement height for an animal. 29:03.356 --> 29:09.521 [SPEAKER_05]: So under your balls, top of the top of the ore, whatever, under your genitals. 29:10.041 --> 29:10.642 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's keep this. 29:10.922 --> 29:14.524 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's just assume that there may be one or two if it might be involved with this. 29:16.986 --> 29:21.927 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, and then the good sure, whatever, and you get it, you get the point. 29:22.347 --> 29:22.987 [SPEAKER_05]: She gets the point. 29:23.007 --> 29:23.347 [SPEAKER_05]: Good job. 29:23.567 --> 29:24.648 [SPEAKER_05]: Good call back by the way. 29:26.288 --> 29:31.369 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I was thinking about the whole knuckle thing and my problem is, I'm built like a gorilla. 29:32.029 --> 29:36.210 [SPEAKER_03]: So my knuckles are almost dragging on the ground most of the time. 29:36.710 --> 29:40.711 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that puts the animal down, the top of the animal down quite low. 29:41.611 --> 29:48.373 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, I think I don't need, I don't have a, a use for Diktongie. 29:48.413 --> 29:50.553 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I've ever actually technically ever done it. 29:51.333 --> 30:01.236 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I do think that because I'm shorter and stature and because of the way I'm built, my, my animal is a little bit lower than most people's, um, but I just tell them to widen their stance. 30:01.296 --> 30:04.336 [SPEAKER_03]: If it's too tall or if it's too short, it's widened your stance. 30:05.096 --> 30:07.657 [SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise, you're gonna be just fine. 30:08.037 --> 30:09.917 [SPEAKER_05]: Diktonging is incredibly helpful. 30:10.717 --> 30:11.378 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 30:11.658 --> 30:13.098 [SPEAKER_05]: I've Diktonged before a lot. 30:13.878 --> 30:14.238 [SPEAKER_03]: How do you? 30:15.938 --> 30:17.519 [SPEAKER_05]: There you go. 30:17.539 --> 30:19.699 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, who's taking that extra on before anything else to say? 30:19.719 --> 30:20.579 [SPEAKER_05]: Skin five. 30:20.599 --> 30:21.059 [SPEAKER_05]: Skin five. 30:21.239 --> 30:22.880 [SPEAKER_05]: I've just, here's a question of the podcast. 30:22.920 --> 30:31.541 [SPEAKER_05]: I've been doing 90% custom orders and thinking of moving towards strictly batch drops or one-off pieces that I have complete control over the design. 30:31.961 --> 30:35.242 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just wondering what you guys think about that and what it's worth thanks at them. 30:38.096 --> 30:47.083 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's the idea of what everybody's looking to do really isn't it, you know, just do a drop and make what you want, do a big drop and everything else. 30:47.483 --> 30:49.524 [SPEAKER_04]: But hopefully, yeah, exactly. 30:49.604 --> 30:51.065 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the ideal. 30:51.486 --> 30:55.348 [SPEAKER_04]: But that's, you know, that's hard work and the people who do that successfully. 30:55.929 --> 31:00.392 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, they've made a great name for themselves and they do great, great work and all the rest of it. 31:02.214 --> 31:06.523 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the demand has got to be there to be able to do that. 31:07.464 --> 31:11.813 [SPEAKER_04]: To me that's the ideal but getting there isn't easy. 31:13.537 --> 31:39.527 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like Jeff has more experience in this realm, but I think if you can, if you are in the position to either mix that up between the customs and the drops or just completely transition over to drops, like yeah, like I agree with Craig, you, you got to be in the position of demand for also for to make sense for you to do a production round of a certain style of knife, whether it's 10 pieces or 100 pieces. 31:43.101 --> 32:03.807 [SPEAKER_03]: And if but if you are, then for sure I would do that, but I would also I think one way if I were to try to do it to ease into it, I would probably make Maybe a variety I wouldn't probably be doing a huge batch of knives to start testing the waters engine just trying to get an idea or even possibly like if you already have a newsletter sent out. 32:04.727 --> 32:14.092 [SPEAKER_03]: Or an email list, a group of, yeah, emails that you've collected over the years, maybe send out a survey and see what people are looking for. 32:14.692 --> 32:19.574 [SPEAKER_03]: And that could inform where you want to go in regards to what you're going to make for your first couple batches. 32:21.135 --> 32:25.377 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to pass it over to Jeff who has a lot more I feel like experience with this. 32:26.483 --> 32:37.193 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll say one thing about the asking people a poll because I had the worst I fucking hate the polls because and that's not the people from poll in them with you. 32:37.674 --> 32:48.344 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking about like with what we're doing merch and every so often you'll get a guy saying I won't come you don't have three XL, I'll come you don't have four XL. 32:48.945 --> 32:51.126 [SPEAKER_05]: And like, okay, well, I'm going to order some merch. 32:51.186 --> 32:56.107 [SPEAKER_05]: I buy them or I buy the merch from my guy down the street and I pay for it before I sell it. 32:56.167 --> 32:58.268 [SPEAKER_05]: And I like that and that's the way we do. 32:59.208 --> 33:03.189 [SPEAKER_05]: And I said, all right, well, I'm going to do a whole thing. 33:03.409 --> 33:06.070 [SPEAKER_05]: And if you tell me what you want, and I'll get it. 33:06.130 --> 33:07.490 [SPEAKER_05]: But don't fuck with me. 33:08.030 --> 33:09.951 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't, you know, if you want it, I'm going to get it. 33:11.760 --> 33:32.371 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I got the thought 4x of one 5x out one three two even like all these 3x else 2x else all this shit I got all this stuff and like okay, I hear what you're saying I'm gonna get this I bought all this stuff and the 4xL people and the 3xL people disappeared and the And then with the 5xL came 33:33.973 --> 33:39.635 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like an appallet, just like this fucking five XL shirt, just like it's on a pilot. 33:39.775 --> 33:49.539 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was like, it was like, I mean, I'm telling you, when I tell you, it was like, I had two people to fall this guy in shirt, it was so big. 33:49.959 --> 33:52.400 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, I'm not asking him motherfuckers anymore. 33:52.460 --> 33:58.162 [SPEAKER_05]: And don't act, you know, where, you know, I hate that because all of a sudden you're just like, okay, these people, all these people want these three XLs. 33:58.462 --> 34:00.543 [SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm stuck with the pilot three XLs, you know. 34:02.551 --> 34:07.154 [SPEAKER_05]: The custom order is definitely, you know, stealing from Peter to PayPal. 34:07.374 --> 34:07.974 [SPEAKER_05]: There's no question. 34:07.994 --> 34:17.801 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, however you, I like it because I think that what happens is people have an opportunity to have their own personality infused into whatever you're making. 34:18.401 --> 34:21.303 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember the first time before Tony came on board. 34:21.463 --> 34:22.224 [SPEAKER_05]: I made a batch of small, 34:24.625 --> 34:26.605 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, Alpine, I've got an Alpine knife. 34:26.686 --> 34:28.666 [SPEAKER_05]: And I made all of them with orange handles. 34:29.066 --> 34:30.026 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought, ease are great. 34:30.906 --> 34:32.347 [SPEAKER_05]: It looks great, blah, blah, blah, blah. 34:33.207 --> 34:35.167 [SPEAKER_05]: I made my first big batch. 34:35.187 --> 34:36.568 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was like 15 of them. 34:37.628 --> 34:39.708 [SPEAKER_05]: And everyone's like, I love it, but can you do black? 34:40.168 --> 34:41.629 [SPEAKER_05]: I love it, can we can you do blue? 34:42.089 --> 34:43.209 [SPEAKER_05]: I love it, can you do green? 34:43.609 --> 34:47.570 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm sitting on these fucking orange knives and everybody wants some different. 34:48.290 --> 35:01.282 [SPEAKER_05]: So, I mean, ultimately we ended up selling them all, but it's like, you got to be real careful, especially if some things work and something's just don't, like, we had a lot of stuff that just was fine but fizzled out in terms of popularity. 35:02.563 --> 35:05.526 [SPEAKER_05]: I think the biggest thing I can say is, 35:07.030 --> 35:11.652 [SPEAKER_05]: having a good website where people can buy, put stuff in their shopping cart. 35:11.753 --> 35:19.677 [SPEAKER_05]: And even if it's not ready, you could write, three weeks, three weeks, until delivery. 35:20.217 --> 35:25.340 [SPEAKER_05]: If you have a good website where people can just buy shit and the dumb of it, they don't have to send emails. 35:26.280 --> 35:51.647 [SPEAKER_05]: It's unbelievably great because you end up getting like here's a good example this week I made a mistake and I did one of our everyday feast day knives I've made them I don't know how this could have happened But I made the the colors wrong so that's the green on the top I did the blue on the top and I was I said Alson Could you do me fair and just put this up on the website and we'll sell it and it was like having it just there People could look at this side if they wanted it. 35:51.687 --> 35:53.548 [SPEAKER_05]: They clicked by it and I put it in the mail today 35:54.288 --> 35:55.209 [SPEAKER_05]: It is the best. 35:55.330 --> 36:01.958 [SPEAKER_05]: Having stuff available and having a good website is like, it's a, it's a, it's a life changer. 36:02.178 --> 36:03.500 [SPEAKER_05]: Total life changer. 36:03.800 --> 36:08.446 [SPEAKER_05]: So I like 75% we got it and then 25% customs. 36:08.726 --> 36:09.247 [SPEAKER_05]: That's right. 36:10.368 --> 36:12.791 [SPEAKER_03]: I would say I probably missed out on. 36:13.557 --> 36:18.020 [SPEAKER_03]: thousands of dollars of sales because I didn't have anything just sitting on the website ready to roll. 36:18.760 --> 36:22.123 [SPEAKER_03]: For people who might be interested to just get something now. 36:23.824 --> 36:31.388 [SPEAKER_03]: But in regards to trying to figure out what you might do for your first drop, you also can look at your historical sales. 36:31.589 --> 36:34.711 [SPEAKER_03]: Like what have you sold the most of in the past? 36:35.231 --> 36:36.512 [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe that makes the most sense. 36:37.112 --> 36:54.585 [SPEAKER_03]: Or if you're trying to do a drop of a single style knife and you're worried about committing to a single style handle material, like the orange handle scales, maybe you can have super limited customization where literally they're just picking handle scales from inventory that you have. 36:55.245 --> 36:57.486 [SPEAKER_03]: something that's low impact, but only do that. 36:57.566 --> 37:03.909 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't don't start letting it kind of continue to be like, oh, but what if we can't personalize it at my name? 37:04.389 --> 37:05.650 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, can we get a number on it? 37:05.750 --> 37:06.430 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, can't bubble it? 37:06.470 --> 37:07.511 [SPEAKER_03]: No, just do. 37:07.891 --> 37:10.792 [SPEAKER_03]: If you do one thing, just do that and that's it. 37:11.475 --> 37:12.956 [SPEAKER_05]: You got to learn how to say no. 37:13.296 --> 37:13.536 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 37:13.916 --> 37:15.917 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell you what I had to say no this week. 37:16.497 --> 37:16.597 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh. 37:16.897 --> 37:19.118 [SPEAKER_05]: This woman wanted a spoon. 37:20.078 --> 37:21.879 [SPEAKER_05]: And Allison said this woman wants a spoon. 37:21.899 --> 37:22.679 [SPEAKER_05]: Would you make a spoon? 37:23.059 --> 37:23.499 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 37:23.759 --> 37:24.479 [SPEAKER_05]: What my wife? 37:24.660 --> 37:26.220 [SPEAKER_05]: My wife doesn't ask for anything for me. 37:26.420 --> 37:29.441 [SPEAKER_05]: She wanted me to make her anything without a spoon. 37:29.741 --> 37:31.422 [SPEAKER_05]: So this woman wanted a spoon. 37:31.782 --> 37:33.843 [SPEAKER_05]: No, not spoon like you being a bed. 37:34.943 --> 37:39.025 [SPEAKER_05]: Finally, finally, it's on him, you only want to do the big spoon on the little spoon. 37:39.306 --> 37:43.388 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I took me forever, ladies and germs, took me forever. 37:43.408 --> 37:44.128 [SPEAKER_05]: I apologize. 37:44.148 --> 37:45.089 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a bad joke. 37:45.129 --> 37:45.689 [SPEAKER_05]: It was fine. 37:45.749 --> 37:46.930 [SPEAKER_05]: It took me for a long time. 37:47.290 --> 37:48.951 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I'm not that clever anymore. 37:49.591 --> 37:56.535 [SPEAKER_05]: And so I said to Alice, we don't really do spoons, but I'd entertain the idea. 37:56.855 --> 38:23.457 [SPEAKER_05]: you know, and she sent this woman sent me in this fucking crazy crazy drawing with like, I mean, it was forged on this and engraved on this and I went in engraved on the inside and I went to lip to be this way and I went there to be a diamond on the back and and it was like, it was crazy and I was just like number one, I'm not, I can't do any of this stuff, you know. 38:23.657 --> 38:27.739 [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be a 500 pound spoon, anybody at the end of it, and it's going to be a tough terrible. 38:28.580 --> 38:34.643 [SPEAKER_05]: And what I ended up having to say to Allison was like, I hate saying no, but this isn't something that we'll use later. 38:35.083 --> 38:42.887 [SPEAKER_05]: Like the best part about costumes is that there's opportunities that maybe something that we make for someone will be in line with what we do. 38:43.427 --> 38:45.908 [SPEAKER_05]: And then maybe I'll do something similar down the line. 38:46.269 --> 38:48.430 [SPEAKER_05]: But this whack-a-doodle spoon is like, 38:49.010 --> 38:50.610 [SPEAKER_05]: She's not going to pay for my time. 38:50.630 --> 38:57.211 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, if I said to her, I need to 250 bucks and $200 for this guy and I'm just willing to just say, well, how come it's so expensive? 38:57.591 --> 39:00.192 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're asking me to R&D stuff that I don't normally do. 39:00.572 --> 39:01.772 [SPEAKER_05]: And I would never do again. 39:01.792 --> 39:06.033 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like going into like a, you know, the abyss with a barely a light. 39:06.653 --> 39:08.373 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's good to be three days work. 39:08.413 --> 39:17.095 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm something that's like, but if you say no and it's like not within the confines of where you're going to go down the line of a brand, you know, 39:19.796 --> 39:24.098 [SPEAKER_03]: Sounds like the witchcraft spoon to literally which I'm gonna send you. 39:24.318 --> 39:24.998 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna send you. 39:25.058 --> 39:27.419 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna send you guys The fucking the dry. 39:28.180 --> 39:29.060 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna send you the guy. 39:29.080 --> 39:33.702 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm drawing is drawing is wild And you and I'm not even I wish I was joking. 39:33.802 --> 39:34.282 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god. 39:34.402 --> 39:37.303 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna send this to talk about something Okay, okay 39:39.144 --> 39:41.727 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, um, RECO, tell me a little bit about Icarinda. 39:42.007 --> 39:42.728 [SPEAKER_03]: Hello, my grinder. 39:43.849 --> 39:46.612 [SPEAKER_03]: Our friend Ryan Broadbeck designed this great grinder. 39:46.832 --> 39:55.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Broadbeck grinders, uh, and I actually have collaborators them for the Marco Deep Latin that I think is kind of become the standard for the machines. 39:55.801 --> 39:56.442 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great machine. 39:56.462 --> 39:58.604 [SPEAKER_03]: I was actually just using it yesterday. 39:59.665 --> 40:19.307 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and for handle sculpting and blade grinding, oh, it's it's great for everything, but it's a multi-faceted tool where it can also be a disc grinder and a buffing wheel and it can, and a surface grinder and small contact it is this was our knife I believe of the shop and if you go to broadbackironworks.com I can't remember do we got a code with them right now? 40:20.008 --> 40:29.114 [SPEAKER_03]: Ninth talk ten is going to save you 10% on a chassis a full package or maybe you just need some tool arms are going to take care of you again. 40:29.134 --> 40:29.875 [SPEAKER_03]: These guys are great. 40:29.935 --> 40:33.817 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope you get to see them and make a campus here. 40:33.917 --> 40:37.240 [SPEAKER_03]: I think at least I'll let you know I'll let you know 40:38.260 --> 40:48.768 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but otherwise, yeah, go to broadbeckironworst.com, they got all the stuff you need for grinders and make sure to put it in and I've talked in, save yourself a little bit cash. 40:48.949 --> 40:49.549 [SPEAKER_03]: I check out. 40:50.170 --> 40:52.792 [SPEAKER_03]: I just sent you the fucking, I'm looking at this spoon. 40:52.832 --> 40:53.792 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking at this spoon. 40:53.812 --> 41:03.520 [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 41:05.216 --> 41:07.837 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh wow, it's like a paddle racket. 41:08.518 --> 41:10.639 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's like, you know, put this near mouth. 41:10.779 --> 41:12.100 [SPEAKER_05]: It's fucking sweet. 41:12.120 --> 41:13.320 [SPEAKER_03]: Some room thickness. 41:13.660 --> 41:15.261 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, all right, don't go too crazy. 41:15.321 --> 41:16.942 [SPEAKER_05]: Just let's keep going. 41:16.962 --> 41:18.943 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to do the know that sometimes you've got to say no. 41:18.963 --> 41:20.104 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to pull this diamond. 41:20.744 --> 41:21.004 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 41:21.464 --> 41:22.245 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, okay. 41:22.485 --> 41:22.765 [SPEAKER_04]: Bad. 41:23.225 --> 41:23.786 [SPEAKER_04]: Bad. 41:24.126 --> 41:25.126 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so let's do it. 41:25.146 --> 41:27.007 [SPEAKER_04]: I've just looked through through the questions. 41:27.287 --> 41:30.069 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just do the next two because I think they're quite interesting the next two. 41:30.089 --> 41:30.289 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 41:32.091 --> 41:34.654 [SPEAKER_05]: The next one is from Rollin' Shalafu. 41:36.016 --> 41:39.460 [SPEAKER_04]: What do you guys think about the like-follow share giveaway things? 41:39.820 --> 41:42.604 [SPEAKER_04]: That I fit 1,000 followers giveaway kind of thing. 41:43.164 --> 41:46.749 [SPEAKER_04]: I'd love to try something like this, but I have no idea where to start. 41:50.553 --> 41:54.257 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll go first, because I've been reading this, and I've been thinking about this for the last five minutes. 41:55.618 --> 42:00.262 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking, why would you, to be honest with you, what's the purpose of it? 42:00.363 --> 42:05.968 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I get messages quite regularly, I'm sure everybody else does as well. 42:06.008 --> 42:10.852 [SPEAKER_04]: You've got certain friends that are always tagging you into things, because there's a free product about Greg. 42:10.872 --> 42:14.075 [SPEAKER_04]: Tag people and I hate it, I'm just like, what are you doing? 42:14.896 --> 42:21.879 [SPEAKER_04]: But I don't see the value in the brand either because people are only doing it, big to get a something for free. 42:22.019 --> 42:25.440 [SPEAKER_04]: And these kinds of people are never going to buy any of your stuff anyway, believe me. 42:25.500 --> 42:27.521 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just complete sort of vanity follows. 42:29.261 --> 42:33.303 [SPEAKER_04]: I just I can't see the point in it at all. 42:33.543 --> 42:37.844 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it may get your work in front of people, but they are the right people. 42:37.984 --> 42:39.245 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think so. 42:40.446 --> 42:55.902 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, given away stuff, just because you've got a thousand followers or how many followers or whatever it is, I don't see the value, I don't see what's that going to do for you apart from losing money, you know, yeah, I can't see the benefit. 42:55.942 --> 42:57.224 [SPEAKER_05]: It's fun for some people. 42:58.031 --> 43:10.620 [SPEAKER_05]: you know I think it can be I think if you could make it fun I think that's one thing or you're enjoying it or you're going to try to give back but if you're looking at it as like some sort of you know big marketing plan I don't think it's 43:11.740 --> 43:12.280 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's correct. 43:12.320 --> 43:12.560 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 43:13.061 --> 43:15.461 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, surely, that's why people are looking at it as a marketing plan. 43:15.622 --> 43:19.063 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think people want to give us a way for free, for fun. 43:19.503 --> 43:23.665 [SPEAKER_04]: I think they're doing it because they want to extra followers or they want more people's eyes on their work. 43:24.925 --> 43:29.427 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I just don't see those people, not the people who are going to be buying your work, surely. 43:29.767 --> 43:32.288 [SPEAKER_05]: When somebody tags you in one of those giveaways. 43:32.448 --> 43:32.808 [SPEAKER_04]: What's that? 43:33.548 --> 43:35.249 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the first thing you think of? 43:35.509 --> 43:36.510 [SPEAKER_04]: I block that. 43:36.690 --> 43:38.190 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you blocked it right away. 43:38.710 --> 43:38.850 [SPEAKER_04]: No. 43:38.870 --> 43:40.131 [SPEAKER_04]: It's always the same people. 43:40.391 --> 43:41.571 [SPEAKER_04]: I do this two or three people. 43:41.711 --> 43:45.033 [SPEAKER_04]: I know and when I have anything for free and they're not even link these things. 43:45.053 --> 43:46.573 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like, what's wrong with them for? 43:46.613 --> 43:46.913 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't. 43:46.933 --> 43:48.994 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like, so I don't even look anymore. 43:49.014 --> 43:50.015 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like, oh geez. 43:50.535 --> 43:51.275 [SPEAKER_04]: What do I do? 43:51.415 --> 43:53.816 [SPEAKER_04]: It's so bad. 43:54.236 --> 43:57.697 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that and I will, this is coming from a place of 100% doing this. 43:59.518 --> 44:17.683 [SPEAKER_03]: I chased followers thinking that would meant something, but the reality is like what you really want is for obviously it feels nice or looks nice or maybe there's some social currency there with saying, oh, I have such and such number of followers. 44:18.463 --> 44:25.245 [SPEAKER_03]: But the reality is that that does not guarantee translation into successful business. 44:25.786 --> 44:43.932 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think you ideally want the people that are following you, you want them to be a curated crowd who are there, who are very strongly interested in either purchasing your work or just like our diehard fans who just want to support you as best as they can and allow that grassroots growth. 44:44.532 --> 44:45.573 [SPEAKER_03]: to take place. 44:45.613 --> 44:47.333 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just going to take time really. 44:47.353 --> 44:53.656 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the giveaways, again, I fucking 100% have done these. 44:54.417 --> 45:02.241 [SPEAKER_03]: The giveaways are shallow attempt at trying to cast a wide net and hope that translates into a sale. 45:02.401 --> 45:07.063 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think business and marketing turns as part of a funnel of source. 45:07.123 --> 45:08.704 [SPEAKER_03]: But every step of the funnel, 45:09.564 --> 45:15.645 [SPEAKER_03]: that group, that number that you potentially are starting with, narrows down to hardly anything. 45:16.486 --> 45:19.046 [SPEAKER_03]: And, um, yeah, I don't know. 45:19.126 --> 45:33.030 [SPEAKER_03]: I think, I think like what Craig saying was like, the only reason people are tagging each other or following certain brands is not because they're full-pot-committed, loyal to the brand. 45:33.050 --> 45:33.930 [SPEAKER_03]: They love that brand. 45:33.950 --> 45:34.910 [SPEAKER_03]: They just want the free shit. 45:34.930 --> 45:36.350 [SPEAKER_03]: They don't give a fuck about the company. 45:36.830 --> 45:37.411 [SPEAKER_03]: They just want the free 45:40.011 --> 45:53.301 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so I think that's what I got to see I mean that I don't want to do any of that because like you know He's led leads to oh, like I won the giveaway because I have this instead You know, it always that shit always happens. 45:53.481 --> 45:53.881 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh dude. 45:53.921 --> 46:03.628 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like it's like it's everyone You know these you know these god-if's all they want it every you know It's like they want a little bit something different or next thing you know oh by the way. 46:04.289 --> 46:08.632 [SPEAKER_05]: I I buy the way I won the giveaway and I live in Australia 46:09.632 --> 46:16.116 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like, you know, you're like, you know, you're paying for all this shit to go for Australia, you know, shout out to Australia. 46:16.717 --> 46:22.420 [SPEAKER_05]: But, but it's like, for me, I tend to really steer clear trends. 46:22.460 --> 46:23.981 [SPEAKER_05]: I try not to do trendy stuff. 46:24.021 --> 46:27.183 [SPEAKER_05]: I try to be, I feel so old. 46:27.263 --> 46:31.185 [SPEAKER_05]: I feel so old that I shouldn't be doing any of these fucking trends like that. 46:31.205 --> 46:32.866 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the new trend where everyone's like, 46:33.286 --> 46:39.172 [SPEAKER_05]: AI in their faces wrappers, and there's like a orange background on those two wrappers. 46:39.252 --> 46:52.444 [SPEAKER_05]: These two wrappers and one guys, there's like a, and then one guy's dancing around and people are AI in there, I just can't, I feel like it's this manipulation that I find myself like having like an allergic reaction to any type of manipulation, like I just buckle. 46:52.824 --> 46:54.245 [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't want to do it. 46:54.325 --> 46:59.688 [SPEAKER_05]: I've never, I think I used to do that before I started the knife company when I was doing sculpture. 46:59.708 --> 47:04.951 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, you know what, this is fun, I'll give away a little sculpture and then I gave away a little sculpture. 47:05.191 --> 47:08.993 [SPEAKER_05]: I did that and I think I think I did that long, long time ago. 47:09.774 --> 47:16.658 [SPEAKER_05]: And then I know the guys in over season do it every so often and you know, he sent a couple knives out the door which is fine by me. 47:17.518 --> 47:23.419 [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't necessarily know if it's a fun thing to get people involved in and I think getting excited. 47:24.040 --> 47:31.921 [SPEAKER_05]: But at the same time, it's just like, you want to have to eat, you're not, if you're going to do it do it from a place of you, it's fun and you like to do it. 47:31.961 --> 47:37.823 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't be like, don't be like, you know, follow and like, and then you know, start, you know, taking it loans. 47:38.303 --> 47:40.383 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like, you know. 47:40.823 --> 47:41.544 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I agree. 47:41.804 --> 47:43.544 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that is definitely the way to do it. 47:43.844 --> 47:45.905 [SPEAKER_03]: Just instead of like chasing the follows 47:47.605 --> 47:53.231 [SPEAKER_03]: Like maybe, yeah, make it a funsy thing that's like harder that feels good to you. 47:53.451 --> 48:08.308 [SPEAKER_03]: But I would say honestly, like to kind of try to award the community that is already there and supporting you, rather than anybody knew that might just come out of the woodwork just for that giveaway and then fuck away. 48:10.369 --> 48:12.951 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think what is it? 48:13.391 --> 48:18.114 [SPEAKER_03]: I've talked about Seth go to the past before, but Seth go to is a really great resource. 48:18.154 --> 48:26.679 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe when it comes to marketing and thinking about how to brand and market your business, especially brand building side of things. 48:27.799 --> 48:31.782 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a lot of really good books, but when it comes to the followers, I try to. 48:32.702 --> 48:55.360 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I try to think of them in the way of like, my email newsletter, honestly, like my eat, I try, I want my, I only want my email newsletter to go out to people who are activated and ready and very interested in buying something so that when I sense put something out there to that newsletter, there's a high chance of like that it's going to sell very quickly. 48:55.701 --> 48:55.821 [SPEAKER_03]: And 48:59.403 --> 49:06.506 [SPEAKER_03]: with the followers, if you have a bunch of followers, again, it's not guaranteed that those are going to translate into any sales. 49:07.526 --> 49:15.489 [SPEAKER_03]: They could translate the slate and the sum, but you're putting a lot of work out there and trying to get people's attention and for what in return. 49:15.809 --> 49:21.631 [SPEAKER_03]: And I try to think of my followers now as I've been watching my numbers actually going down. 49:21.651 --> 49:23.291 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm actually not mad about that. 49:23.411 --> 49:27.453 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not but heard about it because just to me that feels like 49:28.833 --> 49:38.858 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of calling out the people that, or their self-calling, people that don't want to be following me and don't want to, and who aren't actually interested in my work. 49:39.059 --> 49:40.819 [SPEAKER_03]: Because honestly, that's not what my page is for. 49:40.880 --> 49:43.761 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't need everybody to want my shit. 49:43.821 --> 49:44.782 [SPEAKER_03]: I just need enough people. 49:45.882 --> 49:48.105 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm good to quit Middleton's calling me right now. 49:48.165 --> 49:49.147 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't answer that though. 49:49.167 --> 49:49.347 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry. 49:49.387 --> 49:50.388 [SPEAKER_05]: Why not put him on the air? 49:50.489 --> 49:50.889 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry. 49:50.969 --> 49:51.750 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry. 49:51.790 --> 49:54.073 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't hear you guys. 49:54.374 --> 49:56.377 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to do any of that. 49:56.417 --> 49:57.238 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't speak of that. 49:59.521 --> 50:00.422 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey guys, do like. 50:04.724 --> 50:12.127 [SPEAKER_04]: You see people just doing something, you know, they'll just put up a picture of whatever the product is and they've ever said like Photoshop and after a thousand me give it away as a mother. 50:12.587 --> 50:14.007 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's just useless. 50:14.567 --> 50:22.310 [SPEAKER_04]: But I think if you're doing, I mean, I think Jeff, the way you use social media is quite clever and you do almost a little tutorials and all that kind of, you add value. 50:22.930 --> 50:28.172 [SPEAKER_04]: And if you're doing it that way with some sort of, you know, competition, you know, like follow share kind of thing, whatever. 50:28.752 --> 50:43.096 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that is more likely to hit the right people or gain people's interest as opposed to just that lazy, you know, you've seen how people use an AI to generate that image as well, you know, with the, you know, it was sort of the same font, so it was a little shit. 50:44.476 --> 50:48.537 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, when this knife or wherever it may be, you just think that's just lazy. 50:48.897 --> 50:55.259 [SPEAKER_04]: Where if you're not in some value or people who learn something from the post, they're more likely to engage with it and think, oh, all right, I catch. 50:55.559 --> 50:57.500 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, let's look at this guy's website now as well. 50:57.520 --> 51:02.561 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and they're more likely to be sort of, you know, potential customers in the future. 51:02.581 --> 51:07.482 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a post are just when this thing just lays laziness, you know? 51:07.722 --> 51:22.056 [SPEAKER_05]: I just try to have fun and I really, I think that that's like, I want, I will disagree a little bit with what you said, Mereko, a little bit about what you were saying that likes don't translate into or follow or so translate into. 51:23.497 --> 51:27.558 [SPEAKER_05]: sales because I mean, I couldn't have had this business with a wasn't for social media. 51:28.138 --> 51:38.201 [SPEAKER_05]: And I know that sending, you know, doing something that's interesting enough that people go to the website and their stuff available has transformed this business. 51:38.521 --> 51:40.961 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's like, I don't know. 51:41.182 --> 51:42.122 [SPEAKER_05]: I try to have fun with it. 51:42.202 --> 51:46.023 [SPEAKER_05]: And I also try to see it as like, you know, having to do push-ups every day. 51:46.523 --> 51:48.943 [SPEAKER_05]: If you just got to knock something out, unless we're slant. 51:48.963 --> 51:50.724 [SPEAKER_05]: Like last two weeks, I've been so slammed. 51:51.304 --> 52:07.894 [SPEAKER_05]: that I find myself, I'd rather be focusing on my customers right now and then, yeah, I'll try to throw in some content every so often, but I'm also slightly getting tired of some things, like, I'm tired of sometimes, if I don't have the time, I'm just like, all right, well, I'm just not going to work on content today at all, sure. 52:08.954 --> 52:10.595 [SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe I misspoke. 52:11.095 --> 52:14.878 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, no, it's like I haven't, 99,000 people follow me, right? 52:14.918 --> 52:17.359 [SPEAKER_03]: But to me, that sounds like, I'm sorry, 97.7. 52:19.260 --> 52:26.524 [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't mean I have 97,000 and 700 people clambering over me to get in the knives. 52:26.584 --> 52:32.446 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I do think a certain followership, like a portion of it does translate to sales for sure. 52:32.486 --> 52:35.368 [SPEAKER_03]: But not, I guess what I meant is not all of it translates to sales. 52:35.828 --> 52:43.332 [SPEAKER_03]: So even if you got 900 people, if you have 50 people who want your work, that's a pretty fucking good workload for a while. 52:43.432 --> 52:45.633 [SPEAKER_03]: And you just keep working on it and it just keeps building. 52:45.673 --> 52:47.494 [SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, like that's how I started out. 52:48.486 --> 52:51.627 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's not a bad thing to have a small following. 52:51.827 --> 52:53.008 [SPEAKER_03]: I guess is what I'm trying to tell. 52:53.088 --> 52:56.189 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think there are a lot of people out there like, oh, I wish I had more people following me. 52:56.209 --> 52:58.970 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, well, how much work can you actually take on? 53:00.090 --> 53:02.952 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think keeping that in mind is also an important thing. 53:03.932 --> 53:07.053 [SPEAKER_03]: Especially for a lot of people who are starting this as a hot side hustle. 53:08.694 --> 53:08.854 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 53:09.254 --> 53:09.434 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 53:10.154 --> 53:11.635 [SPEAKER_04]: OK, let's move on. 53:11.675 --> 53:14.036 [SPEAKER_04]: Who wants to do Leonardo's questions? 53:14.076 --> 53:14.336 [SPEAKER_04]: Good one. 53:15.457 --> 53:19.519 [SPEAKER_03]: Leonardo Lee says, all right, lads, I have a relationship dilemma. 53:20.359 --> 53:25.641 [SPEAKER_03]: My wife and I have been together for two kids and six years, but we are not technically married. 53:25.661 --> 53:31.323 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been trying to save up for a ring and a wedding, but really expensive things keep happening. 53:31.363 --> 53:34.764 [SPEAKER_03]: And we probably a few years away from clearing up the debt. 53:35.125 --> 53:38.486 [SPEAKER_03]: We're currently in before, I'm sorry, Jesus. 53:38.786 --> 53:41.867 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll have much chance to buy anything nice. 53:42.067 --> 53:43.028 [SPEAKER_03]: So, Jans, do I A? 53:44.273 --> 53:49.259 [SPEAKER_03]: by super cheap ring, no ceremony and celebrate with a cabab at home or two. 53:50.182 --> 53:55.947 [SPEAKER_03]: Wait another few years, by an ice ring, propose on our 10th anniversary and have an actual wedding. 53:56.147 --> 54:03.913 [SPEAKER_03]: Lastly, gaslight her into thinking, we already had a wedding and use AI to fake wedding photos. 54:04.513 --> 54:05.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Option, that's not. 54:06.755 --> 54:07.496 [SPEAKER_03]: That's really funny. 54:08.616 --> 54:09.257 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I had a turn. 54:09.337 --> 54:10.078 [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't do that. 54:10.118 --> 54:11.238 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you guys think about that? 54:11.619 --> 54:14.141 [SPEAKER_03]: My first thought, Chile, or go for it. 54:14.161 --> 54:14.701 [SPEAKER_04]: Go for it. 54:14.801 --> 54:15.702 [SPEAKER_04]: Go, go, go. 54:16.918 --> 54:19.060 [SPEAKER_03]: I, it sounds like he wants to surprise her. 54:19.080 --> 54:22.064 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that's the vibe I'm getting from this question. 54:22.084 --> 54:29.032 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like, especially since they've been together for such a long time, like, and they got two kids. 54:29.732 --> 54:33.436 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I feel like he's going to be confidently going to get a yes. 54:34.057 --> 54:38.222 [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is a conversation you have with your partner, because it's also her money. 54:39.897 --> 54:48.269 [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe they keep finance as separately, but at the same time, like everybody's earning in the family helps go towards contributing, right? 54:48.350 --> 54:53.157 [SPEAKER_03]: To keep supporting the family and like these are some, potentially some really big expenditures. 54:54.481 --> 55:10.877 [SPEAKER_03]: And so my concern is not having a conversation or maybe they would like kind of hint and joke at the idea or how talk about it Wistfully and and fantasize about it, but I think this sounds like it merits maybe a more concrete conversation about because 55:12.057 --> 55:14.759 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she doesn't want to spend $10,000 on a wedding. 55:14.899 --> 55:24.505 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she would rather go on a $3,000 trip with you halfway around the world and explore some beautiful place and then come back and then put that money towards your kids' college tuition. 55:25.145 --> 55:26.746 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 55:27.167 --> 55:28.167 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 55:28.207 --> 55:29.048 [SPEAKER_04]: I've got tip for you. 55:29.268 --> 55:30.789 [SPEAKER_04]: I've got tip for you, Leonardo, right? 55:31.689 --> 55:34.011 [SPEAKER_04]: You're a maker, you clearly are maker. 55:35.052 --> 55:35.752 [SPEAKER_04]: Make a ring. 55:36.252 --> 55:37.573 [SPEAKER_04]: Can you sell some dollar on the steel? 55:37.833 --> 55:38.974 [SPEAKER_04]: Make something beautiful. 55:39.134 --> 55:40.735 [SPEAKER_04]: That's not a bad move. 55:42.356 --> 55:47.762 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about you, Darmasteele.se, use 9th talk 10, but 10% off. 55:48.002 --> 55:50.685 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if you're thrifty, she'll find that super sexy too. 55:51.265 --> 55:51.706 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no. 55:51.726 --> 55:53.207 [SPEAKER_04]: thrifty and sexy, right? 55:53.247 --> 55:57.692 [SPEAKER_04]: Go to Darmasteele.se, get yourself some steak, beautiful patterns. 55:58.052 --> 56:02.076 [SPEAKER_04]: Make a ring, make this ring, and it'll be a one off. 56:02.417 --> 56:03.057 [SPEAKER_04]: It'll be a one off. 56:03.217 --> 56:04.058 [SPEAKER_05]: It's gonna be like a brand. 56:04.078 --> 56:04.899 [SPEAKER_05]: It's gonna be like a brand. 56:06.458 --> 56:20.368 [SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 56:32.417 --> 56:39.002 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, if, obviously I'm not here to give you a relationship advice, but, um, yes, we are, that's 100% won't we? 56:39.222 --> 56:40.723 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he's asking for, I suppose, isn't it? 56:40.743 --> 56:40.983 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 56:41.364 --> 56:44.506 [SPEAKER_04]: Pick, you know, you're in dearest and dearest, you love twins. 56:45.126 --> 56:46.708 [SPEAKER_04]: Do something special with them. 56:46.768 --> 56:48.109 [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't have to cost the earth. 56:48.689 --> 56:52.732 [SPEAKER_04]: and you could make a real sort of memorable weekend, I think, and do it that way. 56:54.173 --> 57:04.841 [SPEAKER_04]: But just remember, knife talk 10 at Domestale.se, if you look on Domestale AB Instagram, you will see some of the stuff people have made and there's plenty of rings people have made. 57:06.082 --> 57:06.842 [SPEAKER_04]: that's what I'm saying. 57:07.743 --> 57:08.984 [SPEAKER_05]: I have two ideas. 57:09.885 --> 57:15.011 [SPEAKER_05]: First things first is Maraco, I think you need to plug this question into your AI. 57:15.831 --> 57:19.555 [SPEAKER_05]: By the end of the episode, we will have Jim and I think 57:21.517 --> 57:29.300 [SPEAKER_05]: Just leave it till the end of the app, you plug the question in, leave it for later, whatever. 57:30.000 --> 57:30.880 [SPEAKER_05]: That's not your problem. 57:30.900 --> 57:32.000 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's say eyes problem. 57:32.020 --> 57:33.201 [SPEAKER_05]: You have to think that like that. 57:33.221 --> 57:34.021 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see how they do. 57:34.181 --> 57:34.741 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see how they do. 57:35.702 --> 57:45.565 [SPEAKER_05]: My opinion is actually, I asked my wife, I read this which my wife, and she says, well, why don't you just ask basically what you, where I could say, why don't you just ask her what she wants? 57:46.787 --> 57:49.748 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that there's a couple of things you can do. 57:50.088 --> 57:57.269 [SPEAKER_05]: One is, if you ask or what you want, if there's a specific ring that you want, let her pick the ring out, that's number one, easy. 57:57.789 --> 58:06.711 [SPEAKER_05]: And number two is, these weddings, these goddamn weddings, it's like, it's, it is crazy what people spend for a party. 58:06.991 --> 58:09.992 [SPEAKER_05]: It's crazy and it's like you almost get nothing out of it. 58:10.052 --> 58:15.893 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember, before I was married, in my mind, I was just like, you know what, I don't want to fucking party. 58:16.353 --> 58:19.556 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to spend a lot of money on this wedding, and I originally want to roll a lope. 58:19.756 --> 58:28.144 [SPEAKER_05]: It was just like, let's just fucking go to the lope, and then I got some pressure from people saying, if you lope, then I'm going to give you a money for a Christmas wedding for gifts. 58:28.865 --> 58:30.766 [SPEAKER_05]: So we had a great wedding, but I did it. 58:31.427 --> 58:32.448 [SPEAKER_05]: It was all barter. 58:32.768 --> 58:33.729 [SPEAKER_05]: Everything was true. 58:33.749 --> 58:37.593 [SPEAKER_05]: We ended up getting a place on Park Avenue at a friend of mine I had to do a trade with. 58:37.973 --> 58:40.376 [SPEAKER_05]: I had Charlie Palmer, my old, my old chef. 58:40.476 --> 58:43.640 [SPEAKER_05]: He brought all the salary employees. 58:44.240 --> 58:45.342 [SPEAKER_05]: They cooked the whole thing. 58:45.422 --> 58:46.283 [SPEAKER_05]: It passed or derives. 58:46.423 --> 58:49.306 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like the cheapest wedding of all time, but it was like a really, really great. 58:50.067 --> 58:53.791 [SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of it was because I was like, I just, the thought of going to death for this. 58:54.819 --> 58:55.359 [SPEAKER_05]: is crazy. 58:55.400 --> 59:00.103 [SPEAKER_05]: We could be spending money on, you know, putting it down payment in the house or preparing our lives. 59:00.663 --> 59:01.704 [SPEAKER_05]: Sounds like you got to go on on it. 59:01.944 --> 59:06.207 [SPEAKER_05]: I like the idea, because say to her, listen, and say it in a very loving way. 59:06.368 --> 59:10.130 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't say it in a, you know, how would a kabob and a fucking ring? 59:11.752 --> 59:14.714 [SPEAKER_05]: You got to be like, you know, here's how you're, here's how you're going to do it. 59:14.794 --> 59:18.777 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to say how I would do it. 59:19.417 --> 59:20.338 [SPEAKER_05]: Darling, I love you. 59:20.818 --> 59:23.319 [SPEAKER_05]: You this is you've made my life incredibly happy. 59:23.700 --> 59:28.282 [SPEAKER_05]: I I couldn't live without you've made me The luckiest guy. 59:28.302 --> 59:38.669 [SPEAKER_05]: I know and I want you to have what you want and I think that would be fun Is as you could pick out the ring that you want and then let's have a wedding party Love the kids in Vaughn. 59:38.689 --> 59:39.909 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll maybe the family around. 59:39.949 --> 59:45.513 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll have a nice party and then we'll make it We'll show our love in a very inexpensive way 59:47.020 --> 59:48.140 [SPEAKER_04]: I peed it out. 59:48.220 --> 59:49.081 [SPEAKER_04]: You got me wet Jeff. 59:49.101 --> 59:49.481 [SPEAKER_04]: There you go. 59:49.521 --> 59:50.481 [SPEAKER_04]: Trifty and sexy. 59:50.641 --> 59:52.822 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm telling you dude. 59:53.182 --> 01:00:01.905 [SPEAKER_05]: You got to show you have to show you have to number one you have to definitely tell her I get the best advice from my favorite podcast and that's number one. 01:00:02.505 --> 01:00:07.008 [SPEAKER_05]: My podcast guys told me Yeah, you would love it One of them wants me to make the ring. 01:00:07.048 --> 01:00:08.409 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't make the fucking ring. 01:00:08.449 --> 01:00:09.489 [SPEAKER_05]: You're not a ring maker. 01:00:09.570 --> 01:00:10.910 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't make or what's you want. 01:00:10.930 --> 01:00:16.674 [SPEAKER_05]: That's not what you want And show some like, you know, show some you know, show some balls. 01:00:16.714 --> 01:00:18.015 [SPEAKER_05]: Have a little bit of a controls. 01:00:18.035 --> 01:00:25.640 [SPEAKER_05]: I get this great idea We're gonna have a great party at home, but I want you to I want to spend the money on the ring get picked the ring you want. 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.862 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't go crazy Whatever you want within reason, you know 01:00:29.582 --> 01:00:31.804 [SPEAKER_05]: And just ask her what she tell her what she wants. 01:00:31.824 --> 01:00:35.426 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what you got to tell her what she wants. 01:00:35.467 --> 01:00:36.387 [SPEAKER_05]: Tell her what she wants. 01:00:36.527 --> 01:00:38.329 [SPEAKER_05]: Tell her what she wants Leonardo. 01:00:38.349 --> 01:00:40.230 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, I got the answer from Jim and I. 01:00:40.430 --> 01:00:41.251 [SPEAKER_05]: What does Jim and I say? 01:00:41.951 --> 01:00:48.556 [SPEAKER_03]: Jim and I says, option A is the absolute winner here, but with a massive upgrade on how you pitch it. 01:00:48.676 --> 01:00:48.997 [SPEAKER_03]: First, 01:00:49.637 --> 01:01:02.170 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's discard the gas lighting and AI faking option entirely, unless you want your actual relationship dilemma to turn into a how to survive a divorce dilemma before you're even legally married. 01:01:02.611 --> 01:01:08.517 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's exactly how you handle this like a champion locking your partnership and stay on track to clear the debt. 01:01:09.776 --> 01:01:10.336 [SPEAKER_03]: the playbook. 01:01:10.877 --> 01:01:14.558 [SPEAKER_03]: Why cheap ring and cababs, beats, waiting years. 01:01:14.798 --> 01:01:21.201 [SPEAKER_03]: Waiting until your 10th anniversary for a massive expensive production, just keeps you in a financial holding pattern. 01:01:21.622 --> 01:01:32.147 [SPEAKER_03]: You already have a life, a home, and two kids together, you are a family, putting a legal boundary around that shouldn't require you to take on more financial stress or delay your commitment. 01:01:33.228 --> 01:01:36.689 [SPEAKER_03]: upgrade option one to a premium alope mint. 01:01:37.510 --> 01:01:42.532 [SPEAKER_03]: This says you don't have to position this as we're too broke for a real wedding. 01:01:42.892 --> 01:01:48.194 [SPEAKER_03]: Position it as an intimate romantic just as adventure, which is what Jeff is basically say. 01:01:48.735 --> 01:01:54.057 [SPEAKER_03]: The thing, the ring, by high quality stirring, silver, gold plated, or 01:01:54.757 --> 01:01:57.639 [SPEAKER_03]: What is it, moistenite, please order moistenite. 01:01:57.659 --> 01:01:59.661 [SPEAKER_03]: Domestring, there's some moistenite. 01:01:59.981 --> 01:02:03.344 [SPEAKER_03]: Make her moistenite, play soldering for now. 01:02:03.744 --> 01:02:08.027 [SPEAKER_03]: So, honestly, I want to give you a symbol of my commitment today. 01:02:08.188 --> 01:02:12.351 [SPEAKER_03]: And when we crush this debt, we are going to go shopping together for an illustrative. 01:02:12.371 --> 01:02:13.852 [SPEAKER_05]: Fuck it, I listen to what I said. 01:02:14.492 --> 01:02:27.055 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I already had it before you started talking to the ceremony, skip the big venue, go down the local registry office courthouse and just with just the two of you or the kids, it costs a fraction of the traditional wedding and makes it legally official. 01:02:27.135 --> 01:02:31.836 [SPEAKER_03]: The after party, if you want to do cababs at home, because it's your thing to do it. 01:02:32.176 --> 01:02:40.058 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you want to make it feel special without breaking the bank, get a nice bottle of wine, put the kids to bed early and order from your favorite local spot. 01:02:40.398 --> 01:02:41.438 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, here you go, look at that. 01:02:51.026 --> 01:03:18.944 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's got a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little 01:03:22.097 --> 01:03:24.162 [SPEAKER_03]: She asked me, but the hell is moistening. 01:03:24.323 --> 01:03:24.864 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, girl. 01:03:26.683 --> 01:03:28.444 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the problem, you don't know what it is. 01:03:29.305 --> 01:03:30.865 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll get you moistenite, yeah. 01:03:31.846 --> 01:03:37.889 [SPEAKER_04]: Right, shall we do some dominant worlds? 01:03:38.070 --> 01:03:38.750 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, amen. 01:03:39.610 --> 01:03:41.311 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, we're going to do some Darwin Awards. 01:03:41.331 --> 01:03:44.353 [SPEAKER_05]: We've just a couple of them just to kind of get you guys squared away. 01:03:44.373 --> 01:03:47.055 [SPEAKER_05]: So the Darwin Awards, we're going to do more of them. 01:03:47.075 --> 01:03:53.618 [SPEAKER_05]: And we need more of them for later in the show that this show, you know what I'm talking about. 01:03:56.520 --> 01:03:59.842 [SPEAKER_05]: Darwin awards is, you know, dumb things that you've done. 01:04:00.443 --> 01:04:05.466 [SPEAKER_05]: This one comes from our main man, Paul Janssen, GSL, Paul Janssen, GSL. 01:04:05.707 --> 01:04:08.008 [SPEAKER_05]: GSL stands for Gold Star listener. 01:04:08.368 --> 01:04:10.750 [SPEAKER_05]: He's been putting in the work over the years. 01:04:12.071 --> 01:04:14.052 [SPEAKER_05]: I got a, I got a Darwin award for you. 01:04:14.072 --> 01:04:23.059 [SPEAKER_05]: I was trying to peel some excess epoxy off the handle using a box cutter holding the handle in my left hand and pulling a knife toward me. 01:04:23.699 --> 01:04:26.964 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought, I bet I'm gonna put that knife into my hand. 01:04:27.104 --> 01:04:28.646 [SPEAKER_05]: I better put a leather glove on. 01:04:28.767 --> 01:04:33.413 [SPEAKER_05]: Turns out leather gloves won't stop a box cutter going straight into your palm. 01:04:33.514 --> 01:04:38.461 [SPEAKER_05]: Turns out, super glue will stop bleeding and scars aren't as cool as I thought. 01:04:39.342 --> 01:04:46.567 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so feel free to feel free to put it in any of your Darwin awards. 01:04:47.147 --> 01:04:49.389 [SPEAKER_05]: This one comes from a man Voss, Custom Knives. 01:04:50.149 --> 01:04:54.052 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, begin a knife maker here from the Netherlands, and I finally caught up with the current episodes. 01:04:54.633 --> 01:05:00.597 [SPEAKER_05]: And after going through a lot of them, going through them for the last few years, I have a Darwin award for you. 01:05:01.237 --> 01:05:08.819 [SPEAKER_05]: There was this old guy at my first job at his metal workshop and he got his finger stuck between something heavy a day earlier. 01:05:09.479 --> 01:05:11.080 [SPEAKER_05]: So he had a bloot, this is terrible. 01:05:11.380 --> 01:05:15.521 [SPEAKER_05]: So he had a blue fingernail and the pressure was building under the nail. 01:05:16.161 --> 01:05:22.723 [SPEAKER_05]: Normally, he used a hot needle or something sharp to puncture the nail to relieve the pressure. 01:05:23.964 --> 01:05:30.286 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, he used a drill press and a small 2.5 millimeter drill bit. 01:05:30.846 --> 01:05:35.087 [SPEAKER_05]: He tried to just drill through the nail at a very low speed. 01:05:35.307 --> 01:05:37.368 [SPEAKER_05]: Unfortunately, the drill bit caught his nail. 01:05:37.948 --> 01:05:44.050 [SPEAKER_05]: Pulled his finger up through the drill bit and then when he ended up with a drill bit going through his finger. 01:05:44.530 --> 01:05:47.371 [SPEAKER_05]: And he had to go to the hospital to remove the drill bit. 01:05:47.571 --> 01:05:48.572 [SPEAKER_05]: It was not pretty. 01:05:49.232 --> 01:05:50.132 [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks for the lot. 01:05:50.212 --> 01:05:51.412 [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks to the laughs each week. 01:05:51.592 --> 01:05:52.653 [SPEAKER_05]: Great show, keep it up. 01:05:53.393 --> 01:06:13.091 [SPEAKER_05]: That's terrible, that might be that might be the leader that would be that would legitimately be not only a dumb like the things we've the last week that we had Timing isn't everything city caught in try to catch a knife even Paul Janseter those are accidents that dude 01:06:14.351 --> 01:06:15.312 [SPEAKER_05]: He did it that's dude. 01:06:15.912 --> 01:06:22.096 [SPEAKER_05]: I should have stupid that is like that is like that is like that is like That is a man who does not know how drill presses work. 01:06:22.116 --> 01:06:29.440 [SPEAKER_05]: You know you've all drilleds through something and all of a sudden some catches It goes up the up the 2.0 what 2.5 now 01:06:33.242 --> 01:06:36.885 [SPEAKER_05]: That might be the dumbest, that's the that's the that's the leader. 01:06:37.225 --> 01:06:46.454 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the that's the that's the high level normal So voss custom knives you get a gold star next to your you get a gold star next to your and I'm putting it up. 01:06:46.674 --> 01:06:48.496 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a big real bit. 01:06:48.816 --> 01:06:50.597 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna use the much smaller drill bit 01:06:51.558 --> 01:06:53.319 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I wouldn't have done any of that. 01:06:53.339 --> 01:06:54.560 [SPEAKER_05]: Why would you use it? 01:06:54.620 --> 01:06:55.180 [SPEAKER_05]: Why would you use it? 01:06:55.220 --> 01:06:56.121 [SPEAKER_05]: No, it would be. 01:06:56.261 --> 01:06:57.401 [SPEAKER_05]: I would use it. 01:06:57.461 --> 01:06:59.462 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not like you've clamped your hand down. 01:06:59.522 --> 01:07:02.064 [SPEAKER_05]: If you clamped your hand down, it would probably work. 01:07:02.684 --> 01:07:04.845 [SPEAKER_05]: See these motherfuckers don't know clamp anything down. 01:07:05.966 --> 01:07:08.127 [SPEAKER_05]: If you clamped his hand down, it would have worked. 01:07:08.507 --> 01:07:09.868 [SPEAKER_05]: You could have just kind of gone through the nail. 01:07:10.288 --> 01:07:12.589 [SPEAKER_05]: But this motherfucker was raw doggy. 01:07:12.909 --> 01:07:14.210 [SPEAKER_05]: Fuck a drill press this hand. 01:07:14.270 --> 01:07:15.991 [SPEAKER_05]: That's free ball on it. 01:07:16.391 --> 01:07:17.171 [SPEAKER_05]: Like idiot. 01:07:17.211 --> 01:07:18.132 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like dumb times two. 01:07:20.593 --> 01:07:22.134 [SPEAKER_05]: Get a Clamp your work down, bitch. 01:07:22.994 --> 01:07:24.175 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I would have said to that guy. 01:07:24.235 --> 01:07:26.236 [SPEAKER_05]: You can Clamp your work down. 01:07:27.697 --> 01:07:31.459 [SPEAKER_05]: And then we have a audio, even audio one. 01:07:33.240 --> 01:07:35.141 [SPEAKER_05]: Audio for our man, Speedster stoves. 01:07:35.321 --> 01:07:36.622 [SPEAKER_05]: Speedster stoves is great. 01:07:36.782 --> 01:07:41.764 [SPEAKER_05]: He is hilarious and he is giving us his Darwin award. 01:07:42.004 --> 01:07:46.927 [SPEAKER_05]: He's gone to, by the way, he's gone to knife-talk podcast and Instagram and sent us his Darwin award. 01:07:49.622 --> 01:07:50.222 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, lads. 01:07:50.523 --> 01:07:52.564 [SPEAKER_00]: This is my entry for the Darwin Awards. 01:07:53.044 --> 01:07:54.705 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll picture the scene. 01:07:55.526 --> 01:07:56.387 [SPEAKER_00]: It's Saturday. 01:07:56.407 --> 01:07:58.268 [SPEAKER_00]: The misses is out shopping all day. 01:07:58.368 --> 01:08:00.209 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got all me gear sorted out. 01:08:00.289 --> 01:08:01.230 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got blanks. 01:08:01.590 --> 01:08:02.831 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got everything ready. 01:08:03.291 --> 01:08:05.172 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got a tank stop for any dinner. 01:08:05.252 --> 01:08:06.053 [SPEAKER_00]: Anything like that. 01:08:06.313 --> 01:08:10.636 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got this big bag of lovely, lovely strawberry and creed boil sweets. 01:08:10.936 --> 01:08:12.837 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm working away at the knives. 01:08:13.158 --> 01:08:16.100 [SPEAKER_00]: Sort and stuff out, pens, handles, everything like that. 01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:21.763 [SPEAKER_00]: Shovering in these strawberry and cream-flavent-boiled sweets. 01:08:22.804 --> 01:08:27.467 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, after a while, I realized I've got a bit of a dick. 01:08:27.487 --> 01:08:29.868 [SPEAKER_00]: Stomachia, I've been score for a shite. 01:08:30.348 --> 01:08:37.793 [SPEAKER_00]: So, anyway, to use affairs that we use around here is, I was shite in over nine days in the London. 01:08:37.813 --> 01:08:39.794 [SPEAKER_00]: I nearly shut myself to death. 01:08:40.955 --> 01:08:44.197 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but in the workshop, God, what an Earth of I had. 01:08:45.055 --> 01:08:59.381 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got a problem, I've got a disease, I've got a virus or something like that, and then I'll spy this packet of strawberry and cream sweets, and it says on the packet, sugar-free which I chose because the door will be a fire-pasted. 01:09:00.181 --> 01:09:05.944 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I hope that these sugar-free sweets eat in moderation, they have a laxative effect. 01:09:06.704 --> 01:09:06.944 [SPEAKER_00]: False. 01:09:07.865 --> 01:09:09.246 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a good one. 01:09:09.467 --> 01:09:13.231 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was going to say he accidentally ate some epoxy or something. 01:09:13.351 --> 01:09:14.011 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 01:09:14.072 --> 01:09:15.813 [SPEAKER_03]: It's sugar-free candy and... Oof. 01:09:16.714 --> 01:09:17.615 [SPEAKER_05]: What was that expression? 01:09:17.655 --> 01:09:18.416 [SPEAKER_05]: Is he from Wales? 01:09:19.637 --> 01:09:20.238 [SPEAKER_04]: It's good, no. 01:09:20.298 --> 01:09:21.219 [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's a jolly. 01:09:21.299 --> 01:09:23.061 [SPEAKER_04]: He'll certainly from time to time somewhere. 01:09:23.121 --> 01:09:23.642 [SPEAKER_04]: What's a jolly? 01:09:26.577 --> 01:09:27.878 [SPEAKER_04]: Newcastle, Sunderland. 01:09:27.978 --> 01:09:30.080 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a sort of northeast part of the UK. 01:09:30.380 --> 01:09:32.782 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they got a really distinctive voice, which I love their voice. 01:09:32.822 --> 01:09:33.042 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:09:33.263 --> 01:09:34.964 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he did he does a good job. 01:09:35.364 --> 01:09:36.025 [SPEAKER_05]: That was a good one. 01:09:36.285 --> 01:09:36.926 [SPEAKER_05]: Speech or so. 01:09:36.946 --> 01:09:37.146 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:09:37.246 --> 01:09:37.766 [SPEAKER_05]: You're up there. 01:09:38.387 --> 01:09:39.007 [SPEAKER_03]: What did he say? 01:09:39.047 --> 01:09:40.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Nine nights over a what? 01:09:42.430 --> 01:09:43.010 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 01:09:43.130 --> 01:09:44.752 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I figured maybe you can stand him. 01:09:44.772 --> 01:09:50.036 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, let's see if I can get all right, lots. 01:09:51.797 --> 01:09:55.119 [SPEAKER_00]: After a while, I realized I've got a bit of a dick. 01:09:55.139 --> 01:09:57.621 [SPEAKER_00]: He stole my kia, I bet it's cool for Shite. 01:09:58.101 --> 01:10:04.626 [SPEAKER_00]: So, anyway, to use the fears that we use around here is, I was shitein' over nine dikes in the London. 01:10:05.006 --> 01:10:19.936 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 01:10:21.038 --> 01:10:24.146 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so there we go guys I want you that's it. 01:10:24.166 --> 01:10:26.451 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a taste result showed yeah 01:10:30.232 --> 01:10:31.013 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's be unscathed. 01:10:31.033 --> 01:10:52.292 [SPEAKER_05]: Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it 01:10:53.561 --> 01:11:08.432 [SPEAKER_05]: Every all of a sudden now everybody's phone is going to be lighting up with like Whatever ads are going to be keep poor getting you more sons of bitches All right, that's a taste. 01:11:08.492 --> 01:11:19.420 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't find any reference to the app without this without having like the police show But your house What's the law names is that toilet 01:11:20.968 --> 01:11:21.649 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in a clue. 01:11:22.029 --> 01:11:23.110 [SPEAKER_03]: Baltic clue. 01:11:24.010 --> 01:11:24.410 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh man. 01:11:24.991 --> 01:11:26.592 [SPEAKER_04]: So, that's a good one. 01:11:26.672 --> 01:11:38.159 [SPEAKER_05]: So, guys, go to Night Talk podcast and Instagram and you can send us your Darwin Awards and if you have a good voice like our man Gary, the tugby champion of the world, he's, I'm saluting you Gary. 01:11:38.179 --> 01:11:39.139 [SPEAKER_05]: That was an awesome one. 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:40.080 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to hold on to that. 01:11:40.100 --> 01:11:48.265 [SPEAKER_05]: That's in there, drill bits in there, and shading your diapers out or whatever, whatever you said. 01:11:48.945 --> 01:11:51.386 [SPEAKER_05]: So, good and I've talked podcast in Instagram and you can submit them. 01:11:51.406 --> 01:11:56.847 [SPEAKER_05]: So, we have listener feedback, we also have ultimate tips, whatever you guys want to do. 01:11:57.687 --> 01:12:14.170 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, you line one up and I'll tell everybody all about TexasFourer Supply.com, whether you're a knife maker, Eva Faria, if you're hitting steel in any way, head on over to TexasFourerSupply.com, they've got everything you need, including Rhiner Wept from 01:12:15.230 --> 01:12:21.576 [SPEAKER_04]: So, if you are doing any sort of hand-sand in, you must be using the Indassar Rhinoet 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[SPEAKER_05]: We talked for the last couple episodes about nicknames. 01:13:22.113 --> 01:13:24.475 [SPEAKER_05]: People sending in their nickname stories. 01:13:24.535 --> 01:13:25.375 [SPEAKER_05]: We have two good ones. 01:13:25.435 --> 01:13:25.816 [SPEAKER_05]: I got out. 01:13:25.856 --> 01:13:26.436 [SPEAKER_05]: We got to do this. 01:13:26.456 --> 01:13:28.538 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, this is from our man Lynch knives. 01:13:29.158 --> 01:13:30.679 [SPEAKER_05]: Lynch knives from Australia. 01:13:30.739 --> 01:13:34.482 [SPEAKER_05]: He says, Hey, we're still talking about nicknames. 01:13:34.682 --> 01:13:40.307 [SPEAKER_05]: I used to work with a bloke who had to Who had to one up every story. 01:13:40.387 --> 01:13:42.208 [SPEAKER_05]: So we called him five skin. 01:13:42.569 --> 01:13:45.151 [SPEAKER_05]: If you have a four skin, he's got a five skin. 01:13:49.500 --> 01:14:03.206 [SPEAKER_05]: And then another bloke on our crew was called sausage because he was in bread Which is probably funnier if I should if you're Aussie, but still another bloke called he was in bread. 01:14:03.486 --> 01:14:05.887 [SPEAKER_05]: The fuck does that mean he was a name bread. 01:14:06.387 --> 01:14:10.809 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh He thought he was dying by the loaf 01:14:18.821 --> 01:14:20.303 [SPEAKER_05]: Ah, it was a breath. 01:14:21.044 --> 01:14:22.166 [SPEAKER_05]: We call them sausage. 01:14:22.767 --> 01:14:23.789 [SPEAKER_05]: That was a good, pretty good. 01:14:24.289 --> 01:14:28.115 [SPEAKER_05]: And then we're going to set it back to our man Paul Jansson, GSL. 01:14:28.356 --> 01:14:30.459 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we could end the show on this one. 01:14:31.331 --> 01:14:36.675 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I got a nickname from a painful experience while playing basketball in high school. 01:14:37.076 --> 01:14:43.020 [SPEAKER_05]: I got hit in the nuts hard enough that they had to stop the game, who in my coach asked what happened. 01:14:43.100 --> 01:14:44.161 [SPEAKER_05]: What are my teammates said? 01:14:44.542 --> 01:14:48.365 [SPEAKER_05]: One of my teammates said he took a shot right in the Paul sack. 01:14:59.492 --> 01:15:02.974 [SPEAKER_05]: And from then on, that's what everybody called me. 01:15:03.434 --> 01:15:06.777 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh God, I hate the Paul sack. 01:15:07.657 --> 01:15:13.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, I'm sitting on that one. 01:15:13.561 --> 01:15:16.703 [SPEAKER_05]: I am saluting you Paul James and GSL. 01:15:17.304 --> 01:15:20.406 [SPEAKER_05]: GSL, Polesak Jens and yes. 01:15:20.646 --> 01:15:22.167 [SPEAKER_05]: That it mean how funny is that? 01:15:26.442 --> 01:15:26.822 [SPEAKER_04]: Love it. 01:15:27.423 --> 01:15:30.144 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, keep sending those in Darwin Awards. 01:15:30.164 --> 01:15:32.065 [SPEAKER_04]: They don't have to be shopper-related at all. 01:15:32.665 --> 01:15:34.546 [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, they're funny if they're not. 01:15:34.926 --> 01:15:36.266 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, keep sending that's a good bit. 01:15:37.767 --> 01:15:39.648 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so I have some listener feedback. 01:15:40.128 --> 01:15:48.052 [SPEAKER_05]: Now, this is a conversation we had last week that based off of, now I'm going to, I mean, this is two. 01:15:49.149 --> 01:15:52.892 [SPEAKER_05]: This is two audio messages from Will Lauer. 01:15:52.912 --> 01:15:58.335 [SPEAKER_05]: We did it last week, but I want to make sure that Craig of that Moreco hears it because we talked about last week, but I want to hear a opinion on it. 01:15:58.695 --> 01:16:00.737 [SPEAKER_05]: So this is from last week, Will Lauer. 01:16:02.318 --> 01:16:03.039 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, what's going on? 01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:03.539 [SPEAKER_02]: I've talked. 01:16:03.559 --> 01:16:04.239 [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate it. 01:16:04.339 --> 01:16:08.422 [SPEAKER_02]: All that you guys continue to do, listening to you on Monday morning for awesome. 01:16:08.442 --> 01:16:11.665 [SPEAKER_02]: This is Will from Alaska, and 907 knives. 01:16:13.646 --> 01:16:17.208 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys brought up a great conversation the other day and reference to college. 01:16:17.509 --> 01:16:21.572 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't think, you know, college degrees would it used to be? 01:16:21.632 --> 01:16:26.155 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I agree with you guys, and, you know, especially Marco, I mean, you talked about how. 01:16:27.342 --> 01:16:30.004 [SPEAKER_02]: going from job to job without, you know, know what you want to do. 01:16:30.064 --> 01:16:30.725 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, got fill you. 01:16:30.745 --> 01:16:40.892 [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I did 20 years in the military, didn't got a degree, and still didn't realize what was something I really like to do, or was relatively good at toss 47, or decided to make knives. 01:16:41.392 --> 01:16:51.579 [SPEAKER_02]: So I fill you, man, I think that certifications and blue collar work is going to be extremely important as we move into, you know, this new AI, you know, environment. 01:16:52.020 --> 01:16:53.701 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, my thoughts 01:16:57.718 --> 01:17:24.756 [SPEAKER_05]: So when we we talked about it last week and what we we Craig and I both made the point that yet we understand what he's saying but there is also a lot more to college where both of us kind of are in the agreement that it is a place for kids to mature but also kids to learn you know deadlines and discipline and you know there's you know there's opportunities you no longer in the house and you have these real you're put in a position of being mature you know you learn how to be mature we were 01:17:25.116 --> 01:17:26.657 [SPEAKER_04]: You're just pointing that out. 01:17:26.837 --> 01:17:28.078 [SPEAKER_04]: Tolerance of others as well. 01:17:28.158 --> 01:17:29.098 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 01:17:29.558 --> 01:17:33.640 [SPEAKER_04]: Most people go straight from, you know, they're parents to then live in the park, no, wherever it may be. 01:17:33.681 --> 01:17:33.921 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 01:17:34.441 --> 01:17:34.621 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:17:35.081 --> 01:17:37.062 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's, I wanted you to hear that. 01:17:37.282 --> 01:17:38.223 [SPEAKER_05]: And if you have any points. 01:17:38.583 --> 01:17:38.763 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:17:38.803 --> 01:17:42.185 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I feel like, I mean, I'm speaking from experience. 01:17:42.945 --> 01:17:46.347 [SPEAKER_03]: I still learned a lot of that stuff, even though I didn't go to college, really. 01:17:48.368 --> 01:18:05.397 [SPEAKER_03]: And especially when you are like, there are lots of, what is it, traditional crafts like plumbing, electrician, carpentry that have a apprenticeship pathways that require like you got to be fucking somewhere on time, you got to figure out how to deal with people. 01:18:06.037 --> 01:18:14.383 [SPEAKER_03]: Jeff, you bring up all the time how working for John Levford taught you tons about running a metal shop and being productive and all that kind of shit. 01:18:14.843 --> 01:18:21.367 [SPEAKER_03]: Like you can get a lot of that information that knowledge and experience first hand rather than just theoretical. 01:18:22.988 --> 01:18:24.348 [SPEAKER_03]: by working these kind of jobs. 01:18:24.408 --> 01:18:33.351 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how many fucking people when I worked in restaurants, how many people were like, oh, I went to such a nice culinary school and I went to like, I didn't give a fuck. 01:18:33.371 --> 01:18:39.093 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's not just, I mean, you're not just, we were, we to, you know, make it a longer conversation. 01:18:39.133 --> 01:18:43.655 [SPEAKER_05]: We weren't just saying it's, we were basically making the point that there's more to college than just. 01:18:44.435 --> 01:18:45.476 [SPEAKER_05]: uh, getting a career. 01:18:46.116 --> 01:18:46.396 [SPEAKER_05]: Sure. 01:18:46.456 --> 01:18:51.819 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there's a lot of fundamentals that that help in the, you know, as well. 01:18:52.639 --> 01:18:52.839 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:18:52.859 --> 01:18:57.742 [SPEAKER_03]: But I, if, if, to me, that sounds like you're saying like, it's, that's a difficult thing to learn. 01:18:58.302 --> 01:19:05.966 [SPEAKER_03]: When you, maybe, like, for me, I just wasn't well suited for school, but I still had to learn responsibility and all kinds of shit like that. 01:19:06.826 --> 01:19:07.727 [SPEAKER_03]: Working jobs. 01:19:08.727 --> 01:19:28.539 [SPEAKER_05]: We weren't saying we weren't saying one is better than the other we were I was making the point that I was making the point that I've heard I heard people say that Colleges just for getting a career, and I don't think that's the case No, and the like special tons of people create all kinds of lifetime connections I mean you reference your college friends all the time 01:19:29.679 --> 01:19:30.320 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's great. 01:19:30.340 --> 01:19:32.661 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of, especially social aspects in it. 01:19:33.182 --> 01:19:44.129 [SPEAKER_03]: And for people who are maybe going down more of the corporate like white color ladder, like there are definitely connections that are valuable in making, but if that's not your path, that's not your path. 01:19:44.169 --> 01:19:47.031 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not saying one's better than the other either. 01:19:48.805 --> 01:19:54.412 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I didn't go to like after school colleges and now that I left school since I could train to work. 01:19:55.313 --> 01:20:05.125 [SPEAKER_04]: But I think from from the question as well, I think what he's saying is, what's the value of that now because jobs have been taken over by AI, whatever it may be. 01:20:06.111 --> 01:20:07.232 [SPEAKER_04]: times a change in it. 01:20:07.292 --> 01:20:21.369 [SPEAKER_04]: I think what we come up to last week, I think I said in the end, was I think what we like if I look at my kids going through education now, what I want them to be is adaptable and resourceful. 01:20:21.669 --> 01:20:26.074 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think if it's going to college to do a degree in something very specific, 01:20:28.324 --> 01:20:30.706 [SPEAKER_04]: That could have no value by the time they finish, you know? 01:20:30.786 --> 01:20:32.027 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:20:32.047 --> 01:20:34.429 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I sort of rounded that 10 years old right now. 01:20:35.009 --> 01:20:35.790 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:20:35.810 --> 01:20:39.493 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think you want them to be adaptable and to be able to roll with punches and that kind of thing. 01:20:41.014 --> 01:20:52.043 [SPEAKER_04]: But then I sort of come with a conclusion that actually there is a value in that because they will be going off to live with other people of their age, if you know, with different viewpoints and all these different things, you know? 01:20:52.223 --> 01:20:54.325 [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, there's a massive value to that. 01:20:58.008 --> 01:21:09.795 [SPEAKER_04]: Whereas, yeah, I think 30 years ago, people go to university, you go to university, you'd get a great job afterwards and there's your career path for the rest of your life, you know? 01:21:09.895 --> 01:21:12.696 [SPEAKER_04]: I think those days are well gone now, well gone. 01:21:12.837 --> 01:21:19.200 [SPEAKER_05]: We had one of the breaks, our daughter brought some of her college friends and they stayed with us for a week or so. 01:21:20.461 --> 01:21:24.044 [SPEAKER_05]: I was so impressed by these, they were juniors at the time. 01:21:24.544 --> 01:21:37.314 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was so impressed, some of them, the way they were speaking, and they were talking about things, and the way they were talking about their majors, and they had poised confidence, a command, the language, they had a command of what they were talking about. 01:21:37.794 --> 01:21:39.996 [SPEAKER_05]: These were really, really impressive people. 01:21:40.256 --> 01:21:48.442 [SPEAKER_05]: And it was really, I found it to be really, really, I was grateful that they were just like, you know, but I think, you know, 01:21:50.404 --> 01:21:54.203 [SPEAKER_04]: older teens and younger adults now, they get such a bad rap. 01:21:55.033 --> 01:22:00.434 [SPEAKER_04]: because the state of the world that we're running so if it's their fault, it's not, they've had to grow up and navigate through this. 01:22:00.514 --> 01:22:04.295 [SPEAKER_04]: And when I was sort of 1920, what a dummy I was. 01:22:04.515 --> 01:22:14.917 [SPEAKER_04]: The shit I was getting up to, and kids don't see to be doing that these days, they're not party as much as we did maybe in the 90s and that. 01:22:14.997 --> 01:22:17.497 [SPEAKER_05]: And I just think, I don't know, they get a bad, bad rap. 01:22:17.557 --> 01:22:19.278 [SPEAKER_05]: They really do, but they're, 01:22:20.718 --> 01:22:34.727 [SPEAKER_05]: They seem to be a bomb at a generation of the money and it's funny that you say that because our daughter This is our senior year and she and her friends got an apartment together And my and my and Hillary and I are just like yeah, these these kids are just gonna get bombed I was talking to and they're having the best time. 01:22:34.747 --> 01:22:38.008 [SPEAKER_05]: I was talking to Lila so what do you up to these days and she was it? 01:22:38.068 --> 01:22:38.869 [SPEAKER_05]: We're so boring. 01:22:39.289 --> 01:22:40.530 [SPEAKER_05]: We're all just studying all the time 01:22:40.730 --> 01:22:50.137 [SPEAKER_05]: because we're trying to figure out their cops right, they're trying to get certain, you know, that you think that it's like drinking every night, but we're all studying all the time. 01:22:50.557 --> 01:22:52.539 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, she's like, it's like a nunnery in here. 01:22:53.079 --> 01:23:00.185 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's hilarious because, you know, but at the same time, it's like, you know, you end up, there's opportunities to meet people. 01:23:00.625 --> 01:23:07.170 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not saying going to college is my sister didn't go to college and she's perfectly, well, she's dead, but she's perfectly, 01:23:07.510 --> 01:23:24.956 [SPEAKER_05]: I think she's my least perfectly fine, she's perfectly fine, not connected, but at the same time it's like you do you're exposed to things in people that you wouldn't normal it's it's I think it's a great so that's the end of it But when you talked about that and it's you doesn't matter if you wanted or you don't want it. 01:23:24.976 --> 01:23:33.779 [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay, but will has a response to what we said Hey night talk this is a wolf from Alaska again 907 nice 01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:39.842 [SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to touch on the conversation you had yesterday, listening to it, and I feel a little hypocritical. 01:23:40.322 --> 01:23:45.485 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd mention now, I think, a blue-collar worker, and it's going to be the way to go in the future. 01:23:45.985 --> 01:23:47.886 [SPEAKER_02]: And then Jeff, you brought up a good point. 01:23:47.946 --> 01:23:52.068 [SPEAKER_02]: You're a doctor, left for college, went to another country, and then grew a lot. 01:23:52.248 --> 01:23:54.469 [SPEAKER_02]: And I have two kids that fall into that category. 01:23:54.529 --> 01:23:58.591 [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel a little hypocritical, because I thought it was important to sing kids to college, and I did. 01:23:59.092 --> 01:24:03.494 [SPEAKER_02]: I made sure that, hey, if I'm going to pay for your degree, it's going to lead to something. 01:24:03.734 --> 01:24:17.907 [SPEAKER_02]: So in other words, like computer science from my son and nursing from my daughter, and I'll tell you, well, my son went off to college, you know, J. Juco baseball player, you know, about a year into it, he realized, you know what, baseball's not for me, and he grew up so much. 01:24:18.007 --> 01:24:19.168 [SPEAKER_02]: My daughter's the same way. 01:24:19.569 --> 01:24:22.751 [SPEAKER_02]: She's an Arizona, going to be a nurse, and she grew up. 01:24:23.252 --> 01:24:27.376 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a great opportunity to highlight that as being very, very, 01:24:27.956 --> 01:24:29.397 [SPEAKER_02]: important to get out the house. 01:24:29.457 --> 01:24:36.321 [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's blue collar, whether it's going to college, you know, I think that's super important to grow as a person. 01:24:36.361 --> 01:24:37.962 [SPEAKER_02]: I certainly did when I joined the military. 01:24:37.982 --> 01:24:38.902 [SPEAKER_02]: That's for darn true. 01:24:39.463 --> 01:24:44.245 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, when over a minute, apologize, but I thought it was important to highlight that point to you. 01:24:44.506 --> 01:24:45.126 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, gentlemen. 01:24:45.858 --> 01:24:46.278 [SPEAKER_02]: Here you go. 01:24:47.299 --> 01:24:48.500 [SPEAKER_04]: Now for a podcast for you, land. 01:24:49.181 --> 01:24:49.721 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, yo. 01:24:50.181 --> 01:24:50.582 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow. 01:24:51.182 --> 01:24:52.043 [SPEAKER_05]: Keep it under a minute. 01:24:52.343 --> 01:24:53.264 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it really is strong. 01:24:54.264 --> 01:24:58.728 [SPEAKER_05]: I've had to send some people back to the drawing board because over two minutes. 01:24:58.748 --> 01:25:00.309 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it doesn't sound good. 01:25:01.028 --> 01:25:01.649 [SPEAKER_05]: It's interesting. 01:25:01.669 --> 01:25:08.633 [SPEAKER_05]: The one thing I will say, no matter what you do is, the best thing you can do is whatever you do, don't be the smartest person in the room. 01:25:08.673 --> 01:25:12.316 [SPEAKER_05]: Friend of mine told me that, and you want to surround yourself with people. 01:25:12.416 --> 01:25:15.058 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't want to be the smartest person in the room. 01:25:15.118 --> 01:25:16.719 [SPEAKER_05]: You're in you know, you're in the wrong room. 01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:18.520 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, definitely. 01:25:18.780 --> 01:25:19.200 [SPEAKER_05]: Definitely. 01:25:20.581 --> 01:25:22.343 [SPEAKER_04]: Jeff, tell me how you sharpen your knives. 01:25:22.643 --> 01:25:23.444 [SPEAKER_05]: I use the Tormack. 01:25:23.724 --> 01:25:24.605 [SPEAKER_04]: What do you do, Jeff? 01:25:25.086 --> 01:25:26.687 [SPEAKER_05]: I use the Tormack Sharping system. 01:25:26.747 --> 01:25:28.869 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm actually going to see the Tormack guys at Maker Camp. 01:25:29.509 --> 01:25:34.294 [SPEAKER_05]: I love the Tormack and I have three of them, more of the three of them be fine. 01:25:35.034 --> 01:25:37.096 [SPEAKER_05]: And they have changed the way I make knives. 01:25:37.457 --> 01:25:40.940 [SPEAKER_05]: Every knife is really, it's just such a great way to sharpen knives for me. 01:25:41.740 --> 01:25:46.241 [SPEAKER_05]: And if you go to tourmic.com or tourmic underscore Sharpie Instagram, you can see it all. 01:25:46.561 --> 01:25:48.122 [SPEAKER_05]: Your customer service is awesome. 01:25:48.642 --> 01:25:52.383 [SPEAKER_05]: They're just a great company, and I'm fully behind them. 01:25:52.823 --> 01:25:53.183 [SPEAKER_05]: Tourmic. 01:25:54.803 --> 01:25:55.023 [SPEAKER_04]: Nice. 01:25:55.603 --> 01:25:55.824 [SPEAKER_04]: Nice. 01:25:56.664 --> 01:25:58.124 [SPEAKER_04]: That 3D printer seems to be getting loud. 01:25:58.144 --> 01:26:02.525 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you can hear it now, but it's rattly itself to death, I think. 01:26:02.705 --> 01:26:03.745 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get the hell out of here. 01:26:03.765 --> 01:26:05.186 [SPEAKER_04]: If I'm rating his way, so we do. 01:26:06.686 --> 01:26:08.187 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think so, maybe. 01:26:08.507 --> 01:26:09.187 [SPEAKER_05]: Should we call it a day? 01:26:10.928 --> 01:26:11.568 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's call it a day. 01:26:11.729 --> 01:26:13.330 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all for listening. 01:26:13.490 --> 01:26:15.391 [SPEAKER_04]: We are a KnifeTalk podcast on Instagram. 01:26:15.411 --> 01:26:20.935 [SPEAKER_04]: If you've got any questions for us or any Darwin awards or your beefs, get your beefs in ready for the end of the review. 01:26:21.976 --> 01:26:26.559 [SPEAKER_04]: We are a KnifeTalk podcast, as I said on Instagram, send us your audio messages that way as well. 01:26:26.579 --> 01:26:29.421 [SPEAKER_04]: If you go to the DMs, you can send all your messages that way. 01:26:30.021 --> 01:26:31.242 [SPEAKER_04]: And it'll be great to hear from you. 01:26:32.443 --> 01:26:33.263 [SPEAKER_04]: Bye for now. 01:26:33.743 --> 01:26:34.364 [SPEAKER_04]: Bye bye everyone. 01:26:38.050 --> 01:26:39.511 [SPEAKER_04]: So what is everybody watching these days? 01:26:41.851 --> 01:26:42.011 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh. 01:26:44.252 --> 01:26:47.914 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I think I said about last week, this thing called last scene on Apple TV. 01:26:48.054 --> 01:26:49.194 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, you're talking about it. 01:26:49.214 --> 01:26:49.974 [SPEAKER_05]: Didn't you see that? 01:26:50.414 --> 01:26:50.775 [SPEAKER_05]: We're echoed. 01:26:50.795 --> 01:26:51.715 [SPEAKER_05]: Didn't you see you watch that? 01:26:53.569 --> 01:26:54.530 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm trying to think. 01:26:54.670 --> 01:26:55.450 [SPEAKER_03]: What is it about again? 01:26:56.311 --> 01:26:57.271 [SPEAKER_04]: It sounds fun. 01:26:58.432 --> 01:26:59.292 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's new. 01:26:59.412 --> 01:27:01.453 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's still an episode every week at the moment. 01:27:01.533 --> 01:27:09.177 [SPEAKER_04]: So I think it's about six episodes up now, where some little girl they think has died. 01:27:10.497 --> 01:27:11.938 [SPEAKER_04]: They think she was abducted and killed. 01:27:12.558 --> 01:27:20.941 [SPEAKER_04]: And this guy works for like emergency services and he takes a phone call like 18 years later and it's his daughter and it's like it all kicks He's got trying to find it all. 01:27:21.021 --> 01:27:22.982 [SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty it's a really good sort of adventure action. 01:27:23.022 --> 01:27:25.742 [SPEAKER_04]: He kind of thing really good really good But a troll maker. 01:27:25.762 --> 01:27:27.103 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think I have seen that 01:27:28.398 --> 01:27:31.341 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, last scene on Apple TV, really good. 01:27:31.502 --> 01:27:33.023 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been watching it, but I'll be waiting. 01:27:34.144 --> 01:27:35.386 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, all right. 01:27:35.606 --> 01:27:36.888 [SPEAKER_05]: First season's crazy. 01:27:37.288 --> 01:27:38.429 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:27:38.549 --> 01:27:39.671 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you finished the first season? 01:27:39.831 --> 01:27:43.315 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's only a couple episodes out currently of the second season. 01:27:44.664 --> 01:27:47.305 [SPEAKER_05]: I bought the first season because I don't have Paramount Plus. 01:27:48.305 --> 01:28:03.030 [SPEAKER_05]: It's crazy and the funny thing is, is, number one, Pierce Brosnan and Helen Mirren do not seem like they have any chemistry whatsoever at all, zero, right? 01:28:03.690 --> 01:28:11.573 [SPEAKER_05]: And Tom Hardy, all his acting is looking gruff, getting in and out of a car, answering a phone, and talking quietly. 01:28:12.678 --> 01:28:13.138 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:28:14.440 --> 01:28:19.705 [SPEAKER_03]: I love that his character is always quite no matter what he's saying and how threatening he's being. 01:28:19.725 --> 01:28:20.025 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:28:20.085 --> 01:28:21.587 [SPEAKER_03]: He's just very quiet. 01:28:21.827 --> 01:28:23.549 [SPEAKER_05]: He also is even more unnerving. 01:28:25.091 --> 01:28:42.227 [SPEAKER_05]: The most amazing part about the Tom Hardy character is his life is an incredible amount of stress and it's everything that happens to him, he has to handle and it's like so stressful and he just does it in this very quiet way, you're just like, oh, Jesus Christ, now what are they doing? 01:28:42.387 --> 01:28:49.133 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's just got in family, it's maniacs, it's totally wild, great show, nice. 01:28:49.994 --> 01:29:00.907 [SPEAKER_04]: I tell you what, I've been watching, we don't watch reality TV at all really, but this is thing traitors, I don't know if you get it in the US, but it's huge over here in the UK. 01:29:00.967 --> 01:29:10.238 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a game show, but there's like murders happen, it's like a murder mystery weekend kind of thing as a game show, but it's like massive and I know it's all over the world now as well. 01:29:11.038 --> 01:29:12.839 [SPEAKER_04]: But that's your new season starting tonight. 01:29:14.140 --> 01:29:16.381 [SPEAKER_04]: So we've watched the old season ready to get ready for it. 01:29:16.441 --> 01:29:18.322 [SPEAKER_04]: It's so, so good, so good. 01:29:18.642 --> 01:29:19.882 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you get over there, Traders? 01:29:19.922 --> 01:29:20.443 [SPEAKER_05]: What is it about? 01:29:20.463 --> 01:29:21.123 [SPEAKER_05]: What is it about? 01:29:23.294 --> 01:29:31.819 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a game should they all go to like a hotel and Three of them at Raiders and the rest are a faithful and nobody knows who they are. 01:29:31.839 --> 01:29:34.481 [SPEAKER_04]: They've got to try and find out Basically it's like a murder mystery. 01:29:34.501 --> 01:29:34.941 [SPEAKER_04]: You gotta find out. 01:29:34.961 --> 01:29:35.802 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's a result. 01:29:35.822 --> 01:29:40.885 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, but it's really it's really really engaging But it's massive. 01:29:40.925 --> 01:29:42.186 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like the bigger show in the UK. 01:29:42.286 --> 01:29:42.747 [SPEAKER_04]: It's huge. 01:29:42.787 --> 01:29:50.752 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, and so a new one starts tonight, but yeah, it's really good really good Oh, you know what I just also finished watching widows bay. 01:29:51.172 --> 01:29:51.733 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's great 01:29:52.500 --> 01:29:55.583 [SPEAKER_03]: It was, it's like, I just seen one clip of that. 01:29:55.663 --> 01:29:56.543 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the guy said the ball. 01:29:56.564 --> 01:29:59.146 [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird, it's scary, but it's very funny. 01:29:59.526 --> 01:30:00.006 [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird. 01:30:00.387 --> 01:30:01.287 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's funny. 01:30:01.308 --> 01:30:02.448 [SPEAKER_05]: My wife loved it. 01:30:02.468 --> 01:30:04.390 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, take it and relieve it. 01:30:04.510 --> 01:30:06.172 [SPEAKER_05]: But I watched it and watched it. 01:30:06.192 --> 01:30:07.513 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like it was in it. 01:30:07.533 --> 01:30:11.937 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't feel like the Apple shows are great, except for there's just like no real. 01:30:12.317 --> 01:30:13.778 [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like there's not a lot of connection. 01:30:13.898 --> 01:30:16.921 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I didn't understand like from episode to episode. 01:30:16.941 --> 01:30:18.362 [SPEAKER_05]: I was just like, what's the connection here? 01:30:18.922 --> 01:30:20.404 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's a great show for sure. 01:30:22.604 --> 01:30:26.765 [SPEAKER_04]: I started watching Brothers, have you seen some of the characters? 01:30:26.785 --> 01:30:28.826 [SPEAKER_04]: Woody Harrelson and what's his name? 01:30:29.286 --> 01:30:34.968 [SPEAKER_04]: Matthew McCartney, and I thought maybe this would be funny, but like, what's the first one? 01:30:35.008 --> 01:30:38.809 [SPEAKER_04]: That's enough for that, you know, it's what's not great, wasn't it? 01:30:38.829 --> 01:30:40.049 [SPEAKER_04]: Potentially, had potential. 01:30:40.573 --> 01:30:47.759 [SPEAKER_05]: we were watching a watching lanterns which really wishing for a little bit more cartoony stuff. 01:30:47.980 --> 01:30:51.082 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm waiting for you know it's a little too detective. 01:30:51.863 --> 01:30:58.629 [SPEAKER_05]: And then slow horses, slow horses can't just the new season's spitting, you know, tiddling out or whatever you call it. 01:30:59.250 --> 01:31:01.932 [SPEAKER_05]: And then that got the Yankees are in the playoffs. 01:31:01.952 --> 01:31:02.512 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm I'm 01:31:03.373 --> 01:31:13.944 [SPEAKER_05]: The Yankees just made it to the second round of the playoffs, so I get October baseball, which I'm really happy about, and then the nicks are starting in less than a month, so I'm probably a basketball less than a month. 01:31:15.151 --> 01:31:15.991 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a shame, right? 01:31:16.011 --> 01:31:19.673 [SPEAKER_04]: We're in different parts of the world, and we're talking about the same TV things. 01:31:20.374 --> 01:31:28.918 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought, back in the day, you know, I'd be talking about Benny Hill, and you'd be talking about, no, tagging in Lacey or something, no, Jesus Christ, he's different than you, you know, differences. 01:31:29.278 --> 01:31:31.960 [SPEAKER_04]: But as no, everybody's just watching the same shit all over the world. 01:31:32.280 --> 01:31:36.042 [SPEAKER_05]: All the best actors in the United States are off from the fucking UK, in Australia. 01:31:36.862 --> 01:31:39.443 [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody, everybody, everybody's lost. 01:31:39.463 --> 01:31:43.986 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the guy from, the guy from Lanterns, the guy from Lanterns is from the UK. 01:31:44.833 --> 01:31:47.857 [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's from the UK, the guy from What Us Base, from the is Welsh. 01:31:48.377 --> 01:31:50.079 [SPEAKER_05]: Your man, what's his face? 01:31:50.139 --> 01:31:52.062 [SPEAKER_05]: Re-something or something or something or something or something or other. 01:31:52.945 --> 01:31:54.766 [SPEAKER_05]: He's a big Welsh guy, which one? 01:31:55.166 --> 01:31:56.986 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, you said me something about him the other day. 01:31:57.126 --> 01:31:57.947 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:31:58.007 --> 01:32:06.810 [SPEAKER_05]: He's hit, he just like hit the, he hit a ton of awards for the Beast and me and he's, all these guys say they don't really learn what to do to the American accent. 01:32:07.050 --> 01:32:14.513 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to hear you, I bet you're American accent really pretty good because apparently all you have to do is just get lazy with your words, that's what they all say. 01:32:15.994 --> 01:32:18.678 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean you've heard my American accent is you know it's not go ahead. 01:32:18.798 --> 01:32:19.800 [SPEAKER_04]: I can just so they're here. 01:32:19.820 --> 01:32:24.907 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm walking here I think you know it's you know a shithole passion that that's that's that was far as it goes. 01:32:24.947 --> 01:32:25.248 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:32:25.668 --> 01:32:25.929 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:32:26.149 --> 01:32:26.389 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 01:32:26.670 --> 01:32:26.890 [SPEAKER_04]: All right. 01:32:26.910 --> 01:32:27.231 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you much 01:32:29.158 --> 01:32:30.538 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much, thank you. 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:31.799 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sorry. 01:32:32.759 --> 01:32:33.019 [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead. 01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:34.160 [SPEAKER_04]: That was very Canadian. 01:32:34.180 --> 01:32:34.460 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:35.520 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:36.621 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:32:38.581 --> 01:32:38.901 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 01:32:39.222 --> 01:32:40.082 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all for listening. 01:32:40.302 --> 01:32:41.382 [SPEAKER_04]: This really is the end now. 01:32:41.722 --> 01:32:42.163 [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah. 01:32:42.363 --> 01:32:44.623 [SPEAKER_04]: If you'd like to find maybe another podcast to listen to. 01:32:45.544 --> 01:32:47.985 [SPEAKER_04]: May I recommend? 01:32:48.525 --> 01:32:49.585 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't hear my record. 01:32:49.605 --> 01:32:50.806 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you very much. 01:32:51.826 --> 01:32:52.906 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, thank you all for listening. 01:32:52.926 --> 01:32:53.587 [SPEAKER_05]: We should speak next week. 01:32:53.627 --> 01:32:54.087 [SPEAKER_05]: Bye.