WEBVTT 00:02.052 --> 00:12.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Hi everyone, my name is Tyler Oakley and you are listening to PsychoBabble, an unfiltered half hour of gossip sessions, pop culture scrutiny, and stories we've never told in videos. 00:12.696 --> 00:15.657 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just crazy talk, it's PsychoBabble. 00:16.117 --> 00:22.419 [SPEAKER_00]: This week we discuss all things reality TV, from the Big Brother 28 finale to the Survivor 00:27.441 --> 00:30.402 [SPEAKER_00]: in CBS's new 24-hour millionaire. 00:30.702 --> 00:33.543 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got thoughts and opinions on everything. 00:33.943 --> 00:41.686 [SPEAKER_00]: Subscribe anywhere you listen to podcasts and join our exclusive psychobattle community at patreon.com slash psychobattle. 00:42.126 --> 00:45.787 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're not on our discord, you're only getting half the battle. 00:48.643 --> 00:51.024 [SPEAKER_00]: breaking a breaking a alert alert. 00:51.104 --> 01:16.053 [SPEAKER_01]: Ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta 01:17.452 --> 01:22.133 [SPEAKER_01]: And now our lawyers said we can't do this. 01:22.173 --> 01:28.534 [SPEAKER_01]: Now our lawyers said we're not allowed to say she did it. 01:29.495 --> 01:32.575 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, hold on, hold on. 01:33.435 --> 01:40.117 [SPEAKER_00]: Is this our first previously nominated running with the law? 01:41.214 --> 01:44.715 [SPEAKER_00]: to have a run-in with the lot certainly not, but of no way. 01:45.695 --> 01:48.556 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Gypsy Rose is back in the news. 01:48.816 --> 01:49.796 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no! 01:49.917 --> 01:50.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Gypsy Rose! 01:50.357 --> 01:51.037 [SPEAKER_00]: Gypsy Rose! 01:51.337 --> 01:52.257 [SPEAKER_00]: Gypsy Rose! 01:53.117 --> 01:55.518 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's actually not fun in funny. 01:55.718 --> 01:56.438 [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's dead. 01:56.798 --> 01:58.519 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I know he died. 02:00.042 --> 02:07.770 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so her husband, ex-feet, the father of ex-feet, the father of her child. 02:07.790 --> 02:10.733 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know all that. 02:10.753 --> 02:13.016 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I don't know any men she would. 02:13.056 --> 02:15.539 [SPEAKER_01]: No, she's, she has. 02:16.179 --> 02:18.702 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we find out together in real time. 02:18.822 --> 02:25.189 [SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like if we're reporting breaking news with sirens, and we neither of us know any details. 02:25.910 --> 02:26.731 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not good. 02:27.231 --> 02:29.634 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Gypsy Rose is back in the news. 02:31.676 --> 02:34.980 [SPEAKER_00]: And her ex-fiance is no longer with us. 02:35.861 --> 02:37.523 [SPEAKER_00]: I do kind of feel like, 02:38.823 --> 02:40.504 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not looking good. 02:41.104 --> 02:47.908 [SPEAKER_00]: And I had to actually Google this, because somebody was like, oh, she did it, oops, I did it again, type of vibe. 02:48.288 --> 02:50.629 [SPEAKER_00]: But she didn't do the first one, did she? 02:50.909 --> 02:54.391 [SPEAKER_00]: She was not her fingerprints were not on the gun. 02:55.872 --> 02:56.532 [SPEAKER_00]: The first one. 02:56.552 --> 03:05.557 [SPEAKER_01]: She's sh, she's sh, she's sh, I had, you know, I don't know, tell me. 03:07.515 --> 03:11.218 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was thinking about that because I was thinking about the jinx. 03:12.359 --> 03:12.679 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 03:12.819 --> 03:14.460 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember home with the burps? 03:14.660 --> 03:15.701 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and it happens. 03:15.961 --> 03:17.362 [SPEAKER_00]: It does happen. 03:17.543 --> 03:23.287 [SPEAKER_00]: I always am a, it's a very big perk of not having to mic up as much anymore. 03:23.667 --> 03:31.013 [SPEAKER_01]: Because back of the date, like, is that that, is that you can burp or that you can, and not worry about confessing to a murderer? 03:31.813 --> 03:41.858 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, if you're on every Wednesday, sometimes you go to the bathroom and you're like, uh, you might forget that you're micred and you're burping and the bathroom confessing to your murders. 03:41.918 --> 03:46.201 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh my god, you don't have to think about that anymore if you're not filming top that anymore. 03:46.401 --> 03:52.904 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, one thing I never did was forget to turn off my mic when I was on the amazing race going to the bathroom. 03:54.085 --> 03:56.246 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'll take the microphone, I'll put it lower, I say. 04:01.862 --> 04:06.946 [SPEAKER_00]: I hunch over, like a fentanyl lean, you know what I'm saying? 04:07.006 --> 04:09.068 [SPEAKER_00]: I give them the angle for them, for them, Mike. 04:09.348 --> 04:15.593 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, okay, so are they gonna take her in for at least a question or two? 04:15.613 --> 04:16.494 [SPEAKER_01]: Or what? 04:16.854 --> 04:22.679 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I can't even keep track of if they were together or not, ex-fiance, a father of her child. 04:23.239 --> 04:29.204 [SPEAKER_01]: Not the guy who was her husband while she was in jail, who was filling her, what's it called? 04:31.586 --> 04:33.247 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? 04:33.267 --> 04:34.267 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? 04:34.787 --> 04:35.787 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it the same there? 04:35.827 --> 04:38.148 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, do you ever go to summer camp? 04:39.088 --> 04:39.348 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 04:39.648 --> 04:44.110 [SPEAKER_01]: And then your mom would give like a $20 a sort of week for your canteen privilege. 04:44.150 --> 04:50.872 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I said, oh, yeah, I only mean I know of summer camp and we had our own summer camp as a child. 04:50.912 --> 04:52.912 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I ever got sent to summer camp. 04:52.952 --> 04:53.853 [SPEAKER_00]: It was not in the budget. 04:54.213 --> 04:54.733 [SPEAKER_00]: Let alone. 04:55.813 --> 05:00.954 [SPEAKER_00]: Let alone I was not getting additional funds sent to my piggy bank at camp. 05:01.114 --> 05:02.795 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that was not happening. 05:03.035 --> 05:04.955 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, but I'm familiar with the concept. 05:04.995 --> 05:10.437 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, um, okay, the sugar papaya, the sugar mama, the glucose guardian. 05:11.557 --> 05:12.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay. 05:12.517 --> 05:16.058 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so her, her ex fiancé died. 05:16.138 --> 05:17.618 [SPEAKER_01]: They were saying it was an overdose. 05:18.279 --> 05:23.360 [SPEAKER_01]: But now she's putting out, she put out an online petition to stop cyber bullying. 05:24.240 --> 05:27.081 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I can't not sign it. 05:27.561 --> 05:28.121 [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. 05:28.361 --> 05:29.702 [SPEAKER_00]: We do need to stop that. 05:29.822 --> 05:31.282 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we doing it right now? 05:32.462 --> 05:32.822 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 05:33.263 --> 05:34.323 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't do that, actually. 05:34.443 --> 05:36.804 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually one of the people who doesn't do that. 05:37.364 --> 05:37.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 05:38.624 --> 05:38.784 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 05:39.484 --> 05:41.485 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll keep you posted if there's any updates. 05:41.545 --> 05:42.945 [SPEAKER_00]: Gypsy be careful out there. 05:43.546 --> 05:46.386 [SPEAKER_00]: And people around Gypsy be careful as well. 05:46.967 --> 05:48.107 [SPEAKER_00]: It's no blame, no. 05:48.307 --> 05:50.628 [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I feel for the child. 05:50.688 --> 05:51.668 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a child involved. 05:53.068 --> 05:54.548 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not easy to be that child. 05:55.069 --> 05:57.569 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it wasn't easy to beat Gypsy Rose when she was a child. 05:58.209 --> 05:58.670 [SPEAKER_00]: Child. 05:58.730 --> 06:00.950 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's no easy children. 06:01.790 --> 06:02.371 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God. 06:02.391 --> 06:05.652 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, speaking of aggression. 06:06.252 --> 06:09.193 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of shit going down. 06:09.693 --> 06:10.613 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 06:10.873 --> 06:15.754 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you hear about honestly before I saw the image attached, I thought this could be Cory. 06:16.555 --> 06:17.515 [SPEAKER_00]: LA Movie Goer. 06:17.995 --> 06:19.417 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, a rest. 06:19.577 --> 06:25.604 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did I ever see this pepper sprayed a man who wouldn't stop using his phone. 06:25.904 --> 06:26.405 [SPEAKER_00]: Corey? 06:26.665 --> 06:27.847 [SPEAKER_00]: What was what was it? 06:27.967 --> 06:29.088 [SPEAKER_00]: What movie was it? 06:29.649 --> 06:32.032 [SPEAKER_00]: They were seeing the uprising, which is which feels right. 06:33.315 --> 06:37.699 [SPEAKER_00]: because, you know, it's this is its own type of uprising. 06:37.719 --> 06:39.640 [SPEAKER_00]: But people against the textures. 06:39.720 --> 06:43.203 [SPEAKER_01]: People against the non-airplane mode phones. 06:43.704 --> 06:46.666 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, but that, you know I hate history. 06:46.726 --> 06:48.147 [SPEAKER_01]: You know I hate a period piece. 06:48.648 --> 06:50.729 [SPEAKER_01]: That movie looks so bad to me. 06:51.670 --> 06:52.332 [SPEAKER_01]: I won't believe it. 06:52.392 --> 06:53.233 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is. 06:53.634 --> 06:54.095 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 06:54.255 --> 06:54.776 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even. 06:55.177 --> 07:00.466 [SPEAKER_01]: If there he is, Andrew Garfield starring as a peasant, and he's all. 07:00.787 --> 07:04.673 [SPEAKER_01]: Us peasants are gonna uprise against the kings. 07:06.317 --> 07:23.827 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm okay with that if that's the concept because you know what some some of the people in America don't the extent of their history lessons is a little stunted and if it takes Andrew Garfield to remind them that they can maybe fight back against tyrene. 07:24.748 --> 07:27.770 [SPEAKER_00]: If that's where it has to start, that's where it has to start, mama. 07:28.971 --> 07:31.233 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get the Patriot back in theaters. 07:31.533 --> 07:35.437 [SPEAKER_00]: I loved when history class would play the Patriot, when the substitute teacher was there. 07:35.557 --> 07:40.202 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm just not going to ever want to watch a movie says the start to a set in 1381. 07:42.786 --> 07:47.091 [SPEAKER_00]: 1381, 1381, did Big Brother ever travel back to that year? 07:47.712 --> 07:59.445 [SPEAKER_00]: I loved when the table time machine and they'd have to be like, rack in their brains for what happened in what year because Lord knows not a damn one of them knew a single year of what was going on on earth. 07:59.765 --> 08:01.687 [SPEAKER_00]: They'd be like, 1391, the pyramids, maybe. 08:05.051 --> 08:07.753 [SPEAKER_00]: 1991, Dracula, probably actually. 08:09.254 --> 08:22.545 [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, if I have to watch them drum on the table or reappear at the table at all point at each other and clap for somebody, you hate a skit, you know what, I liked them leaning into the bits. 08:22.985 --> 08:29.850 [SPEAKER_00]: If they're having time machine and big brother, I want people to at least sell me the experience or at least lean in a smidge. 08:29.890 --> 08:32.913 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want somebody to be rolling their eyes at the table about it. 08:33.413 --> 08:34.013 [SPEAKER_00]: My bad. 08:34.113 --> 08:34.714 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be me. 08:34.774 --> 08:36.874 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be had to be refusing to drum. 08:38.615 --> 08:40.336 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, this time machine is not real. 08:41.516 --> 08:41.997 [SPEAKER_00]: Literally. 08:42.017 --> 08:44.417 [SPEAKER_00]: We will get, we will get some big brother. 08:44.437 --> 08:46.858 [SPEAKER_01]: Big brother thoughts, and I can wrap it up real quick. 08:48.999 --> 08:49.459 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 08:49.479 --> 08:50.420 [SPEAKER_01]: Did I enjoy it? 08:50.720 --> 08:51.020 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 08:53.081 --> 08:54.862 [SPEAKER_01]: Bad, bad season all around? 08:54.942 --> 08:55.342 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 08:57.104 --> 09:03.171 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, so this spoilers are starting in three, two, one. 09:04.152 --> 09:11.520 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Rick Devon's makes her three as the first survivor player to win big brother. 09:12.881 --> 09:14.082 [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that's not true. 09:15.103 --> 09:22.646 [SPEAKER_00]: for because maybe somebody in the future will go from big brother to survivor and win that and they will then be the first. 09:23.966 --> 09:25.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Survivor player. 09:25.467 --> 09:27.327 [SPEAKER_01]: No, maybe I tweeted. 09:27.407 --> 09:27.948 [SPEAKER_01]: I tweeted. 09:28.008 --> 09:29.528 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, okay, you didn't tweet it. 09:29.608 --> 09:30.168 [SPEAKER_00]: You posted. 09:30.448 --> 09:31.389 [SPEAKER_00]: I've read the rabbit. 09:32.129 --> 09:35.211 [SPEAKER_00]: I accidentally opened threads, and I saw you have a viral thread. 09:35.251 --> 09:37.153 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, where the hell am I? 09:37.433 --> 09:38.994 [SPEAKER_01]: I sighed that I threaded. 09:39.134 --> 09:42.097 [SPEAKER_01]: I said CBS got what they wanted. 09:42.137 --> 09:50.063 [SPEAKER_01]: They've now got people from each show have one a different show starting with Natalie Anderson from the amazing race. 09:50.103 --> 09:51.684 [SPEAKER_01]: She went on to win Survivor. 09:52.485 --> 09:56.528 [SPEAKER_01]: Then you've had three different big brother couples when the amazing race. 09:56.568 --> 09:59.170 [SPEAKER_01]: And now you've had a survivor contestant when big brother. 09:59.270 --> 10:00.651 [SPEAKER_01]: So there you have it. 10:02.599 --> 10:07.073 [SPEAKER_00]: Did they ever once this season a big brother mentioned that Angela had done amazing race? 10:07.534 --> 10:08.417 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sick of this. 10:09.683 --> 10:10.364 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sick of this. 10:10.564 --> 10:13.786 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they paid to amazing race is unprecedented. 10:14.347 --> 10:20.572 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and after my little viral tweet, and I started, well, also the amazing race started last week. 10:20.632 --> 10:32.722 [SPEAKER_01]: So, it might be because of that, but I saw somebody going off being all damn, I don't know if you're watching, but the amazing race is challenges our way harder than anything they ever do on big brother or survivor. 10:33.683 --> 10:35.965 [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, do I agree with that? 10:37.346 --> 10:38.567 [SPEAKER_00]: Not harder than survivor. 10:38.847 --> 10:48.855 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying not harder than survivor after we watched people fail to drag a 500 pound whale over a car wash. We will get to survivor because I have a lot of thoughts. 10:49.156 --> 10:49.476 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 10:49.536 --> 10:51.698 [SPEAKER_00]: But first let's wrap up big brother. 10:56.886 --> 11:09.505 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, on a season that was set up for an icon, quote unquote icon, to at least have a strong start and then be set up for an installation and success throughout. 11:11.187 --> 11:24.673 [SPEAKER_00]: You have the first HOH guaranteed to them, which means they can then, as Taylor put it, have the pick of the litter and make their insulation alliances as quickly as possible if they know what they're doing. 11:24.993 --> 11:31.436 [SPEAKER_00]: A built-in alliance with people that they know, going into it, plus fan voted, 11:33.437 --> 11:39.961 [SPEAKER_00]: perks and advantages that you can get and they're the only ones with built-in fan bases. 11:40.382 --> 11:44.344 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was kind of set up for one of them to win. 11:45.225 --> 11:49.348 [SPEAKER_00]: And um, do I think Julie Chen wanted it? 11:49.708 --> 11:49.928 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 11:50.368 --> 11:52.430 [SPEAKER_00]: She was talking shit about Rick Devon's all season. 11:53.090 --> 11:54.171 [SPEAKER_00]: She did not like. 11:54.191 --> 11:57.493 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you read it any of her exit interview stuff right before the finale? 11:57.673 --> 12:15.500 [SPEAKER_01]: I did, but I saw, I saw a video of her of them asking her like before the family who she wanted to win and she said Taylor and I got all excited and then she said because her and I both love Jesus, right, right, right, right, right, she said she gave glory to God when she won the vampire challenge and that was enough for me. 12:15.580 --> 12:15.840 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, 12:16.680 --> 12:23.262 [SPEAKER_00]: Ma'am, I don't, I, I think you're a good host and, and you know my history with the Julie Chen moon vase. 12:23.622 --> 12:26.163 [SPEAKER_00]: So you, you know, I have, I have stand from day one. 12:26.343 --> 12:28.404 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the first celebrities I ever made a video with. 12:28.444 --> 12:41.668 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, I, I review, however, girl, if you're, if you're the host of Big Brother and your reasoning for why you're rooting for somebody is because they said 12:44.818 --> 12:48.483 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, that's unfortunately for you, not the show. 12:48.884 --> 12:50.626 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, that's not what the show is about. 12:50.766 --> 12:57.575 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, I don't, I can't really trust you to be a good guide of the experience. 12:58.016 --> 13:00.940 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't even like, what makes big brother, big brother? 13:01.180 --> 13:01.621 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you? 13:02.942 --> 13:06.004 [SPEAKER_00]: You should be like, oh, maybe they're a good competitor. 13:06.044 --> 13:07.084 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they have good gameplay. 13:07.104 --> 13:08.525 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they are a good social skills. 13:08.985 --> 13:12.386 [SPEAKER_00]: If your reasoning is, they said, thank you to God when they want something. 13:12.527 --> 13:13.707 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why you want them to win. 13:14.587 --> 13:16.228 [SPEAKER_00]: It might be time to reassess. 13:17.369 --> 13:21.831 [SPEAKER_00]: Did, uh, no, I lost my trade-up thought. 13:22.791 --> 13:28.654 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I thought, I mean, and then I saw she was giving out little Jesus's, I saw she gave joy to her little Jesus figurine. 13:29.194 --> 13:32.777 [SPEAKER_01]: She mailed, she mails Bibles to people after they're on the show. 13:33.578 --> 13:34.559 [SPEAKER_01]: Honey. 13:35.679 --> 13:36.480 [SPEAKER_01]: Honey. 13:37.021 --> 13:38.382 [SPEAKER_01]: She mails the Bibles. 13:39.162 --> 13:42.465 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Deb Rick Devons becomes the first player to win Big Brother. 13:42.665 --> 13:43.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you. 13:44.512 --> 13:49.456 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, the most money won in a single big brother season, $810,000. 13:50.237 --> 13:55.922 [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that's bringing me peace in this situation is I'm a big believer of karma. 13:56.162 --> 14:05.770 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that this is his karma coming back to him for letting my girl Aubrey win $2 million in survivors' season 50. 14:06.311 --> 14:07.132 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think. 14:07.872 --> 14:22.694 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't like, I don't like how defensive he's gotten any time anyone's tried to say that they had advantages, which is like crazy because they did and also let me let me tell you all a little story going back 10 years. 14:24.214 --> 14:40.450 [SPEAKER_01]: After we were on the amazing race the first time we filmed it in 2015 at aired in 2016 a little known show came out on Paramount Plus only in 2016 called what big brother over the top. 14:41.651 --> 14:42.932 [SPEAKER_01]: They had did you watch that? 14:43.172 --> 14:43.653 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you didn't. 14:44.688 --> 14:45.369 [SPEAKER_01]: They reached me. 14:45.449 --> 14:46.049 [SPEAKER_00]: I have no clue. 14:46.449 --> 14:54.835 [SPEAKER_01]: Casting reached out to me after we were on the amazing race, and I went through the full casting process to be on big brother over the top. 14:55.475 --> 15:02.800 [SPEAKER_01]: I made it all way to the final, like grouping, and then they did not obviously select me to go forward with it. 15:03.340 --> 15:20.268 [SPEAKER_01]: Once the show started premiering, the casting reached back out to me and said, the reason we didn't pick you is because this season is very heavily fan-voted, and it was an unfair advantage that you had a built-in audience, and that Tyler could also like tweet for people to vote for you for things. 15:21.108 --> 15:27.654 [SPEAKER_01]: And the final, the winner was chosen on Big Brother over the top by America's vote. 15:27.814 --> 15:28.735 [SPEAKER_01]: It was not a jury. 15:28.855 --> 15:30.697 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just fully America vote. 15:31.237 --> 15:39.664 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's crazy to me that 10 years ago, they clocked out having some sort of following or audience would be an advantage. 15:39.744 --> 15:44.568 [SPEAKER_01]: And now they're trying to act like it wasn't rigged for the icons on the season. 15:45.569 --> 15:45.930 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry. 15:47.270 --> 16:01.072 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think part of the reason he gets a little defensive is because advantages are way more common maybe on survivor is is maybe the feeling yeah it and 16:03.933 --> 16:30.207 [SPEAKER_00]: I also think, if you're in the house for 80 days, you understand the full breadth of how hard you had to put effort in that was not just a fan voted this or that, like to us, yeah, we can make a little list of all the things that made it easier for him, but that doesn't make it not the case that he was there for the full amount and really, you know, 16:31.007 --> 16:32.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine you're at that. 16:32.087 --> 16:35.768 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not going to be like this, but imagine you're at that in your way for you from your kids for that long. 16:35.788 --> 16:38.269 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he probed, that's psychologically very challenging. 16:38.389 --> 16:40.290 [SPEAKER_00]: And he seems to be somebody who likes his kids. 16:41.390 --> 16:44.531 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, so I wouldn't imagine is it is hard. 16:44.571 --> 16:50.613 [SPEAKER_00]: And he, so to take away from that, I can imagine getting a little defensive guy for a bit, somebody like their kids. 16:51.473 --> 16:53.635 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it has to be clarified. 16:53.675 --> 16:54.436 [SPEAKER_00]: Not everyone does. 16:55.517 --> 16:57.278 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I was pretty pleased. 16:57.579 --> 17:09.889 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess with him as the winner, I thought he did kind of steam roll the season a little bit, and he was kind of the main character, a main character all season long, and so like 17:10.730 --> 17:19.094 [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes I kind of would prefer if a main character ends up winning big brother because a very often a main character doesn't not win big brother. 17:19.414 --> 17:19.914 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? 17:21.135 --> 17:30.819 [SPEAKER_01]: And especially coming off of a season where it was argued last season that somebody who wasn't didn't do a whole lot ended up winning because they won a couple competitions at the end. 17:31.620 --> 17:36.582 [SPEAKER_00]: And as we were getting close to the finale of this season it felt like people were really projecting on to Taylor what they were 17:39.323 --> 17:45.105 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, give as a speech of like, all of her mastermind moves and honey, the speech was not giving. 17:45.605 --> 17:49.666 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, no, like, I was giving Gina Marie. 17:49.726 --> 17:55.747 [SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was, can I just say everybody here is very beautiful. 17:58.088 --> 18:00.170 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much. 18:00.330 --> 18:02.432 [SPEAKER_01]: I will admit I did not watch the finale. 18:02.913 --> 18:06.156 [SPEAKER_01]: I was, I was in another time zone. 18:06.196 --> 18:07.998 [SPEAKER_01]: I was behind it started airing. 18:08.078 --> 18:08.618 [SPEAKER_01]: I watch it. 18:08.698 --> 18:09.359 [SPEAKER_00]: I watch it. 18:09.639 --> 18:09.999 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 18:10.840 --> 18:11.941 [SPEAKER_00]: You should watch it. 18:12.081 --> 18:17.546 [SPEAKER_01]: This is just like when when Jag won whatever season that was, I did not watch that finale. 18:18.267 --> 18:31.609 [SPEAKER_00]: you should watch it because well you should watch the jack finale too because there were some there's some good moments like what do you mean you didn't watch the jack finale when when um who's that woman that I like that boy Jane 18:32.632 --> 18:43.900 [SPEAKER_00]: No, well, uh, Felicia, Felicia, Felicia, when Bowie's aim revealed her age, and Bowie and Felicia, okay, you need to watch this. 18:43.920 --> 18:45.361 [SPEAKER_00]: I watched like clips of it. 18:45.401 --> 18:49.544 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely not going to sit through two hours or 90 minutes of that. 18:50.285 --> 18:52.747 [SPEAKER_00]: You think you need to see room in where you want to miss? 18:53.167 --> 18:56.089 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you want to miss the Roman lyric half announcement? 18:56.269 --> 19:01.273 [SPEAKER_01]: No, speaking of Bowie and online, that you find me in the big brother comment section. 19:02.322 --> 19:02.703 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 19:02.723 --> 19:03.985 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, honey, I know. 19:04.005 --> 19:05.226 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, don't worry. 19:05.286 --> 19:08.150 [SPEAKER_00]: My, my angel, I need stereotyping comment. 19:08.190 --> 19:12.276 [SPEAKER_00]: Got the got a lot like her legs were shaking when she was yelling. 19:12.296 --> 19:15.601 [SPEAKER_00]: It was not pretty and her yelling about Drew's boner anyway. 19:18.704 --> 19:22.046 [SPEAKER_00]: I did end up enjoying the season, I guess. 19:23.547 --> 19:27.850 [SPEAKER_00]: I was rooting for D for so long and then it ended and it was kind of like, okay, it was a lot of Wampwamp. 19:28.290 --> 19:40.638 [SPEAKER_00]: And then it was like, okay, well, I guess I'm happy for Rick Devons, you know, I recently opened a survivor places comments and everyone was discussing who they wanted to take over as the new host of survivor. 19:41.338 --> 19:43.900 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone, top comments were all Rick Devons. 19:44.500 --> 20:00.892 [SPEAKER_01]: before he won big brother I was like wait a second what what this is that even the discussion we're having like is that pause I've had enough devins in my life for while I have already seen the petition for traders I've already seen this and that 20:02.496 --> 20:03.617 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a hard question. 20:03.657 --> 20:11.324 [SPEAKER_00]: It says something for him to be, he's now the second person to win and also win America's favorite first being Taylor Haywell hold on. 20:11.725 --> 20:21.194 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't, that used to not even be an option until Taylor Hayles season because they knew she was going to win and so they changed the rule. 20:22.555 --> 20:33.868 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was curious about that because I'm like, there's no way that other winners know it's only been since Taylor's season was the first time that they allowed it because that's interesting. 20:34.629 --> 20:36.471 [SPEAKER_01]: They really wanted her to win all the money. 20:37.636 --> 20:48.439 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now people from Big Brother are saying we need to send our strongest soldiers over to survivor to show to show survivor how it's done listen who would that be is a jack. 20:49.079 --> 20:49.719 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh God. 20:51.500 --> 20:57.041 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't need to see jack on my screen either also is it Nicole of Nicole and Victor. 20:57.221 --> 20:58.982 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's Nicole. 21:00.482 --> 21:00.862 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 21:01.202 --> 21:08.064 [SPEAKER_01]: If I've been really enjoying this new season to Survivor, it's felt refreshing, it's felt exciting. 21:08.624 --> 21:21.226 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like a lot of the changes they made between seasons 41 and 50 were driven by COVID like requirements and then they never really altered after we got out of the pandemic. 21:21.726 --> 21:24.527 [SPEAKER_01]: And so this feels like intentionally new and 21:25.287 --> 21:41.210 [SPEAKER_01]: Like fun, I'm enjoying the two tribes, but what I was gonna say is if we're sending big brother people, they need to do what they did on our second season of the amazing race and put three tribes into a survivor tribe, a big brother tribe, an amazing race tribe. 21:41.470 --> 21:44.111 [SPEAKER_00]: But will they know the fans will hate it, the fans would hate it? 21:44.151 --> 21:49.692 [SPEAKER_01]: Will they know, they'll be shitting all over amazing race from here on out. 21:49.712 --> 21:50.952 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch the amazing race? 21:52.033 --> 21:53.093 [SPEAKER_01]: No, baby. 21:54.113 --> 21:54.934 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's good. 21:54.954 --> 22:11.567 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say they did they did two episodes in one week not the same night like two nights back to back And we have had and and the plot line so far is a girl team needs to win and I'm like I'm like couldn't you just surprise us? 22:11.587 --> 22:19.053 [SPEAKER_01]: They've been two episodes and they've beaten the idea over heads of how long it's been since a girl teams won So I'm like well, okay. 22:19.073 --> 22:21.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, clearly a girl girl team is winning this season 22:22.655 --> 22:29.019 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you need to just spoil it that hard from the jump, but I guess I'll be able to write that down. 22:29.039 --> 22:29.539 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see. 22:29.559 --> 22:32.761 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be, is it going to be, Ali Krieger? 22:33.082 --> 22:33.782 [SPEAKER_01]: I would hope so. 22:33.802 --> 22:36.524 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're my favorite female female team. 22:36.564 --> 22:37.584 [SPEAKER_01]: That's racing so far. 22:37.725 --> 22:38.925 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know. 22:38.945 --> 22:44.128 [SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to my friend James, who notoriously won the season after we were on. 22:45.249 --> 22:46.090 [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, 22:46.970 --> 22:49.232 [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, you know, amazing race. 22:49.332 --> 22:50.913 [SPEAKER_01]: They would head us over the head with that. 22:51.013 --> 22:54.755 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been so long since girl T-1, and they'd still end up watching it. 22:54.855 --> 22:57.537 [SPEAKER_01]: Like all the girl teams lose this season. 22:58.918 --> 23:10.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it feels a little, sometimes the editing reveals itself and if you're saying it, I, I, it must be really over the top and it's like they, they at least are going to have grow girl teams in the finale. 23:10.168 --> 23:17.494 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what's at least what they, they, they shook out into like a little girl, all girl team alliance kind of happening in the second episode. 23:17.514 --> 23:20.096 [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought, okay, maybe that's the storyline. 23:20.897 --> 23:21.477 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me wrong. 23:21.537 --> 23:22.118 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to. 23:22.178 --> 23:25.660 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit of a very long time since a girl girl team has won the amazing way. 23:25.680 --> 23:34.164 [SPEAKER_01]: So I am rooting for them, and especially since we know Kyle and we know Alley through Kyle, it's like, yeah, I'm rooting for them to win for sure. 23:35.585 --> 23:40.388 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I saw CBS just green lit a new show called 24 hour millionaire. 23:40.508 --> 23:43.109 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw somebody posted about casting for that. 23:43.169 --> 23:43.649 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw it. 23:44.850 --> 23:48.692 [SPEAKER_00]: So like the same people who do big brother are doing a 24 hour game. 23:51.367 --> 23:58.452 [SPEAKER_00]: where you play non-stop social strategy physical competitions, one player wins a million dollars. 23:59.192 --> 24:07.197 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're telling me the same people who do three months for $750,000 competition are about to do a 24 hour one million. 24:07.257 --> 24:10.099 [SPEAKER_00]: And they can't raise the big brother price to one million? 24:10.799 --> 24:14.822 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just because they pay them all so much money for the three months to be there. 24:16.534 --> 24:31.169 [SPEAKER_01]: still sorry no I will I will say though that that was like rotten to leave the three of them in that house for another week that last week they were all going stir crazy they were over it they all wanted out of there there is no reason to keep three people in a house for a full 24:35.954 --> 24:38.257 [SPEAKER_01]: I have no stake in the, I don't care. 24:38.497 --> 24:48.370 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say though 24 hours is stressful that the, the survivor bushwick that I played in was pretty much 24 hours and I was on an anxiety high the entire time. 24:49.135 --> 24:50.956 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think for a million is crazy. 24:51.336 --> 24:51.896 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God. 24:51.956 --> 24:54.657 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I know you haven't watched it, but I do need to discuss it. 24:54.737 --> 24:56.898 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is on everyone's homework this week. 24:57.999 --> 24:59.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Netflix has a new show. 24:59.559 --> 25:04.682 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the Willy Wonka reality competition, whatever the, I don't know what the full name is. 25:05.382 --> 25:07.243 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, 25:08.043 --> 25:10.065 [SPEAKER_00]: they made a Willy Wonka factory. 25:10.385 --> 25:10.725 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 25:10.805 --> 25:13.487 [SPEAKER_01]: I heard Drew from Big Brother has a cameo with it. 25:14.128 --> 25:24.575 [SPEAKER_00]: And 12 people get a golden ticket in the first episode and they show a whole bunch of duos because you get to you get your gold ticket, you get to come with somebody. 25:24.635 --> 25:32.041 [SPEAKER_00]: So people bring their mom or people bring their brother, people bring the friend play amazing race teams, a little bit, a little bit, a non-traveling. 25:32.081 --> 25:33.062 [SPEAKER_00]: It's in a factory. 25:34.022 --> 25:39.786 [SPEAKER_00]: So people are getting their golden tickets, and they're showing some of the teams that were up for it, not getting their golden tickets. 25:39.806 --> 25:40.787 [SPEAKER_00]: So they open their chocolate. 25:40.827 --> 25:42.388 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, or is chocolate. 25:42.728 --> 25:45.009 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay. 25:45.029 --> 25:49.833 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Drew was one of them, and I'm like, and this aired before the finale. 25:49.853 --> 25:53.955 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, girl, how many reality shows were you in contention for? 25:54.376 --> 25:56.297 [SPEAKER_00]: Should he have done the, the, the, the, 25:56.998 --> 26:15.489 [SPEAKER_00]: the Willy Wonka experience maybe he did you see he was he's been all over everything he was on like family feud he was on let's make a deal he was on so so he had one gear where he's just decided i'm gonna be on tv for this year maybe him and and halfway with her movies this year 26:16.722 --> 26:24.750 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, I pushed play on episode one, and I watched it in there, and then I can watch it. 26:24.770 --> 26:25.490 [SPEAKER_00]: And you watched it. 26:26.071 --> 26:34.779 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's what they do in their route to deal with hang or eliminate clippers, cliff hangers, and it's very non-structural. 26:34.919 --> 26:35.420 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, 26:36.781 --> 26:39.364 [SPEAKER_00]: random people will just be to start going home. 26:39.844 --> 26:52.037 [SPEAKER_00]: They'll randomly just have a walk into a room and now they have to vote five people out type of thing and they'll randomly have a little competition in them Like it's not like What is this structure to it? 26:52.097 --> 26:53.938 [SPEAKER_00]: What does this have to do with Willie Wonka? 26:54.958 --> 27:01.444 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, the first, the very first shot is text on the screen. 27:02.606 --> 27:09.652 [SPEAKER_00]: Gene Wilder's voice has been used with AI with permission from the Gene Wilder estate. 27:10.253 --> 27:12.536 [SPEAKER_00]: to host the show or whatever. 27:13.076 --> 27:15.119 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm like, oh, here we go. 27:15.139 --> 27:18.863 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so he's just on the overhead speaker. 27:18.923 --> 27:19.384 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not. 27:19.524 --> 27:23.809 [SPEAKER_00]: The AI is on the overhead speaker with his voice hosting, you know? 27:24.069 --> 27:24.350 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:26.450 --> 27:39.958 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's, and it's set in the factory, and there's Umpelumpas, and so yeah, it is giving full Willy Wonka experience, and it's all like little mini games and competitions akin to the movie. 27:40.298 --> 27:51.165 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, you know, there's Wonka vision, and there's got the, the, the, the, the, ever lasting gobs, stoppers, or whatever, and there's like swimming at the chocolate river. 27:52.025 --> 27:57.050 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, there's a chocolate river and there's licking the wall, flavors and there's okay. 27:57.090 --> 27:57.891 [SPEAKER_00]: So, all right. 27:57.951 --> 28:08.061 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I've seen it has the theme down, but and they're all, they all have, they all live in the same big room for the entire process. 28:08.101 --> 28:08.321 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 28:08.341 --> 28:09.282 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's like it's like a, 28:10.128 --> 28:11.329 [SPEAKER_00]: a long experience. 28:11.469 --> 28:19.235 [SPEAKER_00]: And so people are really kind of living big brother style with Umbalumpas around of all shapes and sizes and colors who sing in dance. 28:19.455 --> 28:22.878 [SPEAKER_01]: That's giving squid games, all the bunk beds in one big room. 28:23.618 --> 28:25.099 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's a little squid gamey. 28:25.820 --> 28:29.723 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they have duos and all types of duos. 28:29.983 --> 28:34.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the duos you might think, oh, we need to see them on amazing race, type of vibe. 28:34.426 --> 28:35.948 [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely thought that about some people. 28:38.218 --> 28:39.840 [SPEAKER_00]: I hate watched it for a little bit. 28:39.880 --> 28:41.442 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple characters you love to hate. 28:41.462 --> 28:43.064 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple characters you hate to love. 28:44.386 --> 28:51.834 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't spoil what happens because I watched all of it and then it said, come back at the end of the month for the finale. 28:51.855 --> 28:54.418 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, ah, ah. 28:54.738 --> 28:57.441 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was really left on a cliffhanger and then when it came out, I watched. 28:58.700 --> 29:25.315 [SPEAKER_00]: In the finale, I actually, I was kind of gagged because they, in true Willy Wonka fashion, what's up is down and what's left is right and how you thought it was gonna end is not the format in which they allow it to end and so like, and I was like, okay, I'm actually curious how this will all turn out because of how the twists were twisting. 29:25.948 --> 29:29.810 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, I guess I have to go and I have to go watch right now. 29:30.230 --> 29:35.873 [SPEAKER_00]: As you as you watch it, well, you please text me who you hate and who you love and who you're rooting for and who you'd like to see on other shows. 29:36.093 --> 29:37.134 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm living in my heart. 29:37.194 --> 29:38.434 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't hate anybody. 29:39.135 --> 29:40.215 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not the case. 29:40.255 --> 29:40.896 [SPEAKER_00]: You'll watch it. 29:41.016 --> 29:42.376 [SPEAKER_00]: I know exactly who you're going to hate. 29:42.556 --> 29:44.477 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, keep me posted. 29:44.838 --> 29:46.819 [SPEAKER_00]: I look forward to hearing your thoughts. 29:47.379 --> 29:48.439 [SPEAKER_00]: I do. 29:48.519 --> 29:51.601 [SPEAKER_00]: I did need to talk about survivor thumb gate. 29:51.941 --> 29:55.003 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there are two episodes and a lot of thumb action. 29:56.120 --> 30:09.464 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them, a thumwore, a thumwore in episode one, a thumw removal in episode two, I was gagged. 30:11.684 --> 30:15.766 [SPEAKER_00]: The viewing party had to pause in rewind, in play again. 30:16.386 --> 30:22.407 [SPEAKER_00]: And we screamed the first time, we screamed the second time, we round it, we re-wounded again, we screamed the third 30:24.628 --> 30:40.319 [SPEAKER_01]: The thumb, I think he, he just cut, I think he must have cut like from his thumb print, not like the tip of his thumb was cut off, but I think like a chunk, I think a chunk of his thumb pad was cut off. 30:40.699 --> 30:43.601 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, the other side, you can see the nail. 30:44.401 --> 30:48.965 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I can't tell you how your thumb nail to be fair, I looked away. 30:50.097 --> 30:51.678 [SPEAKER_00]: He cut off his entire thumbnail. 30:51.718 --> 30:53.318 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think he missed the bone. 30:53.618 --> 30:58.340 [SPEAKER_01]: He gave, he gave that doctor his thumb skin and said, give this to Jeff. 30:59.180 --> 31:03.542 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, spoiler, I saw him in a way as the episode was posting. 31:04.062 --> 31:10.825 [SPEAKER_00]: That I saw he posted on his socials that he has encased the thumb in resin and turned it into an idol. 31:11.965 --> 31:14.026 [SPEAKER_00]: Which I thought was cute. 31:14.046 --> 31:14.566 [SPEAKER_01]: This is good. 31:14.586 --> 31:17.187 [SPEAKER_01]: I was a little worried you were gonna say they'd dump it to fart. 31:19.105 --> 31:20.125 [SPEAKER_01]: Dubbed the fart. 31:20.145 --> 31:21.906 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was just a fart. 31:21.966 --> 31:24.467 [SPEAKER_01]: That was like, lat, two seasons ago. 31:25.508 --> 31:27.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Was, oh, I didn't know if there was a new fart. 31:27.429 --> 31:28.369 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no new fart? 31:28.389 --> 31:30.730 [SPEAKER_00]: No, two seasons ago, they dubbed the girls' fart. 31:31.690 --> 31:41.055 [SPEAKER_00]: I did see a clip from the live feeds of Big Brother from the season of Rick Devon's farting and asleep a very long, loud fart. 31:41.575 --> 31:44.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Is somebody posted it said, I know that felt good. 31:44.336 --> 31:45.997 [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha. 31:46.017 --> 31:47.797 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, this is why I can't be on Big Brother. 31:50.502 --> 31:57.045 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, no, I, I don't want a compilation of that coming out of me just farting all summer long. 31:57.605 --> 31:58.026 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 31:58.826 --> 32:00.127 [SPEAKER_00]: People who fartin, man. 32:00.807 --> 32:05.509 [SPEAKER_00]: People do to be fartin, and if you keep it in, it's no bueno for the bowels, certainly. 32:05.589 --> 32:09.091 [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I don't have the proof, but it's got to be no bueno for the bowels. 32:09.191 --> 32:09.731 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 32:09.751 --> 32:11.532 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. 32:11.552 --> 32:11.832 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 32:13.911 --> 32:16.592 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't decide if I love her hate, brody, Brady. 32:17.332 --> 32:39.037 [SPEAKER_01]: Him calling everyone, brody, it's crazy to watch the complete juxtaposition of two different tribes where they both equally have somebody who's desperate for attention and the one tribe seems to be eating it up and the other tribe hates the person more than anyone else in the world. 32:43.298 --> 32:45.179 [SPEAKER_00]: There are different kinds of things. 32:45.199 --> 32:47.139 [SPEAKER_00]: There are different kinds of classes. 32:47.219 --> 32:58.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, one clown is kind of like, I do feel for him because it's my worst nightmare to go on survivor and not know you're the most annoying person in the island. 32:59.362 --> 33:00.242 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know. 33:00.762 --> 33:02.822 [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's devastating to experience. 33:03.363 --> 33:05.463 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, do you think he knew? 33:05.483 --> 33:07.584 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think it would include him in the last year? 33:07.604 --> 33:07.824 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been. 33:07.844 --> 33:08.204 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been. 33:10.004 --> 33:12.466 [SPEAKER_01]: been a while since they filmed. 33:13.287 --> 33:24.136 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if they're all saying it in confessional, so he must know, well then I'm saying you think when they got off the out of the text of it said, hey, but everybody hated you on our island. 33:24.236 --> 33:29.521 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know, I don't know, but is that not your worst nightmare to not know that you're being annoying? 33:29.961 --> 33:31.222 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm too hyper vigilant. 33:31.803 --> 33:32.323 [SPEAKER_01]: I would know. 33:32.843 --> 33:34.064 [SPEAKER_01]: I know what I'm being annoying. 33:34.825 --> 33:37.707 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I would know, but like you never know if you know, 33:38.468 --> 33:40.529 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't, that's the point, he didn't know that he didn't know. 33:40.549 --> 33:51.336 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 33:52.294 --> 33:56.096 [SPEAKER_00]: not him being like, okay, let's do some improv on the island. 33:56.256 --> 34:02.760 [SPEAKER_00]: I was when he said the first rule is yes and I thought this isn't going to go over well. 34:03.121 --> 34:08.003 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to get a laugh from me let alone any of the survivors. 34:08.924 --> 34:09.844 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard. 34:10.265 --> 34:11.245 [SPEAKER_00]: It was hard to watch. 34:11.465 --> 34:15.608 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and the other guy's version of clowning is just calling everybody brody. 34:17.807 --> 34:23.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what I do like about that seem though is they, well, I can't tell. 34:23.528 --> 34:27.009 [SPEAKER_00]: Are they having fun or are they saying they're having fun and believing what they're saying? 34:27.609 --> 34:28.069 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? 34:28.089 --> 34:30.689 [SPEAKER_00]: Like is, is, because they're always like, this is so fun. 34:31.009 --> 34:31.750 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you like Devon? 34:31.890 --> 34:33.250 [SPEAKER_00]: Or do you, how do you feel about that? 34:33.270 --> 34:43.972 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to gauge that tribe because I feel like there's two people sucking the entire air out of it and I feel like that tribe's only getting, we're only getting confessional from two people and it's Brady and Devon. 34:45.098 --> 34:45.318 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 34:45.719 --> 34:48.504 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I can't tell how that's going to end up. 34:48.704 --> 34:49.545 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, I guess. 34:49.906 --> 34:58.199 [SPEAKER_00]: This might be another case of main characters not making it to the end, because like, loud, loud, loud at the front doesn't really vote well for end game. 35:00.825 --> 35:01.366 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:04.228 --> 35:08.873 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like Brady yelling at people during competitions. 35:09.514 --> 35:17.361 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, but the last thing that will help me during a competition is the biggest man in the world is screaming for rociously at me. 35:17.581 --> 35:18.262 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to help. 35:18.582 --> 35:18.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:20.515 --> 35:30.707 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, men, I still think about how my worst nightmare is showing up on Survivor and being on a tribe with all men, it could happen to you. 35:31.789 --> 35:34.892 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and last thing about Survivor, um, Rob? 35:36.453 --> 35:37.834 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, not knowing the rules. 35:38.555 --> 35:39.376 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sorry. 35:39.896 --> 35:40.717 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my god. 35:41.197 --> 35:42.658 [SPEAKER_00]: He is like, it's tonight. 35:42.799 --> 35:43.839 [SPEAKER_00]: We're making history. 35:43.919 --> 35:45.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Little did he know he was going to make history. 35:46.101 --> 35:48.043 [SPEAKER_01]: These are my best way to make history. 35:48.063 --> 35:48.623 [SPEAKER_01]: These people. 35:48.643 --> 35:50.025 [SPEAKER_01]: They got people these days now. 35:50.045 --> 35:55.049 [SPEAKER_01]: They're showing up to this island saying they're super fans and doing dumb shit like that. 35:56.635 --> 36:01.359 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the production, not even telling him ahead of time because he didn't tell production that that's what he's trying to do. 36:01.619 --> 36:13.528 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, being mysterious about what he's gonna do and he's got a big plan, but he's not even saying in confessionals and it's like, if he had talked about it in confessional, there's a world they would've told him you can't do that, like that's against the rules. 36:13.808 --> 36:20.253 [SPEAKER_00]: They waited until the very moment that he wrote down his own name and tried to turn it in to tell him you can't do that. 36:20.613 --> 36:23.617 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't even understand what he was doing. 36:23.697 --> 36:27.762 [SPEAKER_01]: He was trying to cause a tie. 36:27.982 --> 36:30.005 [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, he had the wrong read of the tribe. 36:30.225 --> 36:31.587 [SPEAKER_00]: He thought it was going to be unanimous. 36:32.508 --> 36:33.809 [SPEAKER_00]: And so he was going to... 36:35.448 --> 36:41.773 [SPEAKER_00]: block the vote and then it was then going to be a tie for some reason and then something else would happen. 36:41.813 --> 36:42.193 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 36:42.694 --> 36:44.115 [SPEAKER_00]: It would then be another vote. 36:44.855 --> 36:54.063 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope he gets voted out soon so we can get to the bottom of this because every scenario that I've run in my head does not make sense at all. 36:54.543 --> 36:55.424 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:55.664 --> 36:59.226 [SPEAKER_00]: His biggest hope then could have been he played 37:00.007 --> 37:08.899 [SPEAKER_00]: Eric played the shot in the dark, and it worked, and then he used the idle on the other person vote that Eric voted for. 37:08.919 --> 37:15.208 [SPEAKER_00]: And then when he went from self would send him home, and he would be the martyr of the season for Eric or something. 37:15.308 --> 37:16.850 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he has a jacket, 37:18.427 --> 37:23.409 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not him saving his crotch, it's no, as a girl. 37:24.269 --> 37:29.010 [SPEAKER_01]: It's another person going on the tribe and saying, I miss my family, I miss my kids. 37:29.370 --> 37:32.491 [SPEAKER_01]: Baby, if you quit, you're still there for 30 days. 37:32.891 --> 37:36.392 [SPEAKER_01]: You're still locked in a hotel room on another side of the island. 37:36.633 --> 37:39.193 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not face-timing with your children and your wife. 37:39.213 --> 37:41.254 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not sleeping with your children and your wife. 37:42.923 --> 37:43.984 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he doesn't know that. 37:44.564 --> 37:45.926 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I hadn't even thought about that. 37:46.186 --> 37:47.307 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was the same thing. 37:47.327 --> 37:51.931 [SPEAKER_01]: There was some gay four or five seasons to go to the same thing. 37:51.951 --> 37:54.373 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I missed my husband and then asked everyone to vote him out. 37:55.033 --> 37:59.537 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, OK, well, now you're sitting in Ponderosa for a month doing what? 38:00.638 --> 38:02.740 [SPEAKER_00]: Ponderosa the island. 38:02.800 --> 38:03.781 [SPEAKER_00]: That location. 38:03.841 --> 38:05.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Not the restaurant today. 38:05.847 --> 38:07.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Not the $7 stake ponderosa. 38:07.768 --> 38:14.789 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, I'm sorry, but if you want to quit a reality show, you've pissed me off. 38:15.510 --> 38:17.670 [SPEAKER_00]: I never want to see you on reality TV again. 38:18.070 --> 38:19.671 [SPEAKER_00]: You are never invited back. 38:20.011 --> 38:21.471 [SPEAKER_00]: You've wasted everybody's time. 38:21.511 --> 38:21.951 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not? 38:21.971 --> 38:24.032 [SPEAKER_00]: You've disrupted an entire season. 38:24.272 --> 38:28.933 [SPEAKER_00]: You blocked somebody who's biggest dream is to come to survivor and you didn't let them have their moment. 38:29.333 --> 38:31.554 [SPEAKER_00]: You've wasted your own time. 38:32.434 --> 38:34.255 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see any of that happen again. 38:34.956 --> 38:35.976 [SPEAKER_00]: Never come back. 38:36.297 --> 38:44.922 [SPEAKER_01]: I told my friend Terence that we need to make a pact that we both still make a film our audition tapes and send them in before the end of October. 38:46.273 --> 38:46.553 [SPEAKER_00]: Do it. 38:47.294 --> 38:54.159 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to say I saw Danielle Reyes was tweeting that she's been sending her auditions and she's ready to go on Survivor. 38:54.360 --> 38:57.102 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, imagine me showing up and working with her. 38:57.742 --> 38:58.463 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I would love it. 38:58.683 --> 38:59.043 [SPEAKER_00]: I see it. 38:59.203 --> 39:00.064 [SPEAKER_00]: I can feel it. 39:01.285 --> 39:05.108 [SPEAKER_01]: Put us on the season where it's all amazing race all big brother all survivor. 39:05.949 --> 39:06.309 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 39:06.489 --> 39:06.950 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 39:07.790 --> 39:11.834 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I am loving the season and I think it's been fun and fresh and interesting. 39:12.274 --> 39:14.115 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm seat sad and sad. 39:16.499 --> 39:17.059 [SPEAKER_01]: Anything else? 39:17.560 --> 39:18.180 [SPEAKER_01]: Anything new? 39:18.280 --> 39:18.980 [SPEAKER_01]: Anything happening? 39:19.000 --> 39:20.081 [SPEAKER_01]: Anything you need to discuss? 39:20.341 --> 39:20.561 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 39:21.381 --> 39:21.602 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 39:21.762 --> 39:24.203 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we really covered reality TV this week. 39:24.263 --> 39:25.203 [SPEAKER_00]: We really got into it. 39:25.623 --> 39:26.144 [SPEAKER_01]: We did. 39:28.265 --> 39:28.665 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 39:28.985 --> 39:29.365 [SPEAKER_01]: Why? 39:29.385 --> 39:29.465 [SPEAKER_01]: Why? 39:30.486 --> 39:30.886 [SPEAKER_00]: Why? 39:31.126 --> 39:32.127 [SPEAKER_00]: Where can people find you? 39:32.487 --> 39:35.168 [SPEAKER_01]: You can find me practicing my Thummore skills. 39:36.209 --> 39:36.329 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh. 39:36.869 --> 39:37.289 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 39:37.549 --> 39:37.929 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 39:38.170 --> 39:38.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 39:38.410 --> 39:41.611 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it does seem to be important. 39:41.811 --> 39:42.392 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 39:42.432 --> 39:42.952 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.