WEBVTT 00:27.726 --> 00:30.788 [SPEAKER_01]: This is Small Screen Sessions, a podcast about television series. 00:31.449 --> 00:36.212 [SPEAKER_01]: Today, we will be talking about Pantheon season two, episode four, Olivia and Farhut. 00:37.033 --> 00:42.156 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Stephen back after a couple of weeks with my calls, who I want to say. 00:42.537 --> 00:43.938 [SPEAKER_01]: Ariana and Trevor. 00:44.979 --> 00:45.419 [SPEAKER_02]: Close the mouth. 00:46.500 --> 00:46.960 [SPEAKER_02]: Ben a minute. 00:47.240 --> 00:47.640 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. 00:48.261 --> 00:49.342 [SPEAKER_02]: Accidental hiatus there. 00:51.174 --> 01:07.340 [SPEAKER_01]: Good to be out, but I do remember that small screen sessions at Gmail, that cloud was your total free telephone number and I believe we have some emails today We do we have two emails and of course like they emailed us right after our last episode So they've been sitting there for like weeks. 01:07.580 --> 01:14.443 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah We've been busy, but One is from our buddy old Joe Joe loury's checking back in Joe 01:16.211 --> 01:20.275 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he says, hey guys, now that you're back to Pantheon, I'm back to following the long. 01:20.716 --> 01:33.089 [SPEAKER_02]: Primarily just wanted to drop a similar thought from your first episode of Season 2, which is that I really needed a show, I really needed the show to give me a two minute recap of Season 1 or at least where the show left off at the end of Season 1. 01:33.429 --> 01:37.334 [SPEAKER_02]: It made jumping back in cold, less than ideal watching experience. 01:37.874 --> 01:45.921 [SPEAKER_02]: Secondarily, as someone working in tech and corporate America and the proliferation of AI in that world, this show continues to hit really close to home. 01:46.401 --> 01:47.462 [SPEAKER_02]: Cheers, Joe. 01:48.683 --> 01:53.366 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like being alive in 26 makes it hit home too. 01:53.667 --> 01:54.948 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like AI is everywhere. 01:55.428 --> 01:58.511 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably more so for Joe than for me, but still everywhere. 02:00.032 --> 02:01.233 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I sympathize. 02:02.093 --> 02:05.997 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's good Joe though. 02:09.350 --> 02:16.502 [SPEAKER_02]: the home of the guests appreciate hearing from you Joe and then my brother Judd, he checked in as well. 02:17.953 --> 02:24.974 [SPEAKER_02]: He says, so excited that you're back on pantheon, such a great season and can't wait to hear your thoughts on the rest of the episodes. 02:25.474 --> 02:29.335 [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't wait, I had the charge ahead and binge them all again, because he's already wants this. 02:29.735 --> 02:31.475 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like his second or third time. 02:31.535 --> 02:35.716 [SPEAKER_02]: Love the show and your episodes have a great week, you all, or a couple of weeks is it turned out, man? 02:36.836 --> 02:41.677 [SPEAKER_02]: To end my email, I'll quote Travis with one of my favorite most, you really like this. 02:41.997 --> 02:44.758 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll quote Travis with one of my most favorite recent quotes, 02:48.932 --> 02:50.193 [SPEAKER_02]: You really got to kick out of that one. 02:52.094 --> 02:53.155 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a classic. 02:55.757 --> 02:58.298 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really a pit fetishist for the record. 02:58.598 --> 02:59.839 [SPEAKER_02]: Just putting that out there. 03:01.240 --> 03:04.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you say anyone starts sending you pictures? 03:05.057 --> 03:10.501 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, please don't blow up my spot with a bunch of fucking softly pets. 03:12.362 --> 03:17.786 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to look at him out, like trying to, but she contours her fleshy, are they armpits? 03:17.826 --> 03:19.307 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's a knee pit, I can't tell. 03:19.747 --> 03:22.429 [SPEAKER_00]: A knee pit? 03:22.469 --> 03:27.132 [SPEAKER_00]: You'll take a knee pit, like as a, you know, just a secondary. 03:27.393 --> 03:27.693 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:27.753 --> 03:29.474 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it doesn't nothing for me. 03:29.674 --> 03:30.915 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a pure fetishist. 03:31.555 --> 03:33.557 [SPEAKER_02]: Can't come if I'm not looking at an armpit, you know? 03:37.309 --> 03:39.631 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's our pets, otherwise they're getting killed. 03:40.652 --> 03:41.212 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 03:42.573 --> 03:45.895 [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, it's not my turn for trivia, right? 03:46.976 --> 03:47.597 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh. 03:48.177 --> 03:49.078 [SPEAKER_01]: Just not mine got it. 03:49.378 --> 03:50.659 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not my turn, okay. 03:51.580 --> 03:52.220 [SPEAKER_01]: Trivia. 03:52.480 --> 03:53.461 [SPEAKER_01]: Hacks edition. 03:55.262 --> 03:55.943 [SPEAKER_01]: Hacks edition? 03:56.203 --> 03:57.524 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 03:57.804 --> 03:58.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Hacks edition? 03:58.505 --> 03:59.365 [SPEAKER_01]: Hacks edition? 03:59.445 --> 04:00.426 [SPEAKER_01]: Hacks edition? 04:00.466 --> 04:01.547 [SPEAKER_01]: Hacks edition? 04:01.587 --> 04:02.428 [SPEAKER_01]: Hacks edition? 04:03.206 --> 04:21.626 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking hex, like HEX, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like hex, like 04:22.727 --> 04:35.193 [SPEAKER_01]: The drivers of London black taxis often spend the time it takes to earn a college degree to pass this rigorous training program mandatory for attaining the coveted green badge to the grants them all London status. 04:38.395 --> 04:38.975 [SPEAKER_00]: Can I be? 04:38.995 --> 04:41.837 [SPEAKER_00]: And the name of the tie? 04:41.877 --> 04:43.217 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the name of the test. 04:45.058 --> 04:45.819 [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea. 04:46.439 --> 04:48.320 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just called the knowledge. 04:50.798 --> 04:51.498 [SPEAKER_02]: the knowledge. 04:51.918 --> 04:52.599 [SPEAKER_02]: The knowledge, right? 04:54.059 --> 04:54.940 [SPEAKER_00]: They know what's up. 04:55.320 --> 04:56.220 [SPEAKER_00]: They really do. 04:56.300 --> 04:57.561 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a serious gig. 04:58.301 --> 04:58.861 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so. 04:59.481 --> 05:08.665 [SPEAKER_01]: And the knowledge requires drivers to memorize a 200 landmarks and 250 streets, b 2000 landmarks and 2500 streets, c 20,000 landmarks and 25,000 streets, or d 200,000 05:23.512 --> 05:24.813 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it's the knowledge. 05:25.173 --> 05:25.673 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 05:25.693 --> 05:27.634 [SPEAKER_02]: It takes years to learn. 05:28.495 --> 05:29.135 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna say see. 05:29.715 --> 05:32.337 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna I'm gonna that's still a lot too. 05:32.397 --> 05:32.757 [SPEAKER_02]: I know. 05:32.777 --> 05:38.960 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go with B but it's probably gonna be see your D just because that's crazy. 05:39.520 --> 05:42.162 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm gonna do? 05:42.222 --> 05:44.983 [SPEAKER_01]: In 2005, in 2003 they got a memory memory memory. 05:45.423 --> 05:47.304 [SPEAKER_00]: Did they actually test them on all of those? 05:47.584 --> 05:48.705 [SPEAKER_00]: How long is this test? 05:49.735 --> 06:14.908 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm all of them, but yeah, you know, but I'm already thinking of when I took my my comps, my comprehensive exams when I almost got my PhD and like I had to read like 250 books and like report on it, you know, like sit down and like be like conversant and like 250 books at once and I sure was for that week, you know, you asked me like a month later and it was 06:19.603 --> 06:23.424 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, just made it work for the rest of the time, which I imagine these cabbies do as well. 06:23.804 --> 06:32.187 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and they probably have a certain areas that they are more familiar with or that they work in on the daily song. 06:32.327 --> 06:35.788 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and I'm sorry, I mispoke as 150 books, which is a lot, but not as many as 250. 06:37.457 --> 06:39.438 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's questions, Steve O. Steve Dave. 06:40.838 --> 06:48.541 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been this steak of doing the same thing with Spanish in high school, where I would learn it for the tests that week and then completely forget about it. 06:49.161 --> 06:52.142 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, as a high school teacher, I promise you, that's what everyone does. 06:53.383 --> 06:59.525 [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, should have stuck with it. 06:59.645 --> 07:04.787 [SPEAKER_01]: Many who hold the knowledge on their own cabs, what slimmer describes them. 07:08.621 --> 07:09.382 [SPEAKER_01]: I get hints. 07:10.042 --> 07:10.322 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 07:11.663 --> 07:16.607 [SPEAKER_01]: It is derived from the French word mash, meaning to march, walk, to go. 07:20.430 --> 07:21.811 [SPEAKER_00]: Silence for mud. 07:22.071 --> 07:22.972 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure. 07:24.272 --> 07:24.773 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you say? 07:25.513 --> 07:25.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Mosher. 07:27.135 --> 07:27.615 [SPEAKER_01]: Close enough. 07:29.086 --> 07:34.990 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, my trivia question is for, uh, episode two of Night Country included a 50-50 lightning round. 07:35.351 --> 07:37.012 [SPEAKER_01]: We're wanting to do this with my dogs. 07:37.672 --> 07:38.333 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 07:38.673 --> 07:39.794 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a term that we're looking for. 07:41.355 --> 07:41.735 [SPEAKER_01]: Mushroom. 07:41.775 --> 07:42.416 [SPEAKER_00]: Mushroom. 07:42.676 --> 07:43.196 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 07:43.857 --> 07:46.279 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 07:47.319 --> 07:47.940 [SPEAKER_02]: Take a look back. 07:49.098 --> 07:59.424 [SPEAKER_01]: True Falls, all London Black Taxi is must be painted with the same Koremen Black anti-corrosive top coat developed by H&P, H&G paints limited in Manchester. 08:00.164 --> 08:01.025 [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds true to me. 08:01.045 --> 08:01.966 [SPEAKER_00]: That sounds true. 08:01.986 --> 08:03.747 [SPEAKER_01]: That's false. 08:03.887 --> 08:05.307 [SPEAKER_01]: The camps can be other colors. 08:06.208 --> 08:06.748 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay. 08:07.068 --> 08:10.791 [SPEAKER_01]: But what can't be is the distinctive yellow taxi lights atop the cabs. 08:11.051 --> 08:14.653 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are universal and unique to a fifth official knowledge haveers. 08:15.845 --> 08:19.248 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to pick you up in a cab and London and the other yellow taxi sign. 08:20.249 --> 08:20.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, look out. 08:21.610 --> 08:25.633 [SPEAKER_00]: So are there other taxi people that don't have the knowledge? 08:26.054 --> 08:26.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 08:27.095 --> 08:29.076 [SPEAKER_00]: OK, so there's like boobers and whatnot. 08:29.376 --> 08:30.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 08:30.337 --> 08:30.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 08:30.798 --> 08:35.622 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been left or cutting into with the people with the knowledge to do. 08:36.903 --> 08:40.266 [SPEAKER_01]: And that there's also always been just like, 08:41.753 --> 08:53.443 [SPEAKER_01]: fly by night, who cares, operations, where they say, you can actually use them, and everyone says to watch out for those, because sometimes they're just, they're just going to increase and wear an assault, you would take your stuff. 08:54.464 --> 08:55.504 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god. 08:56.265 --> 09:05.973 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and then there's a different, like, you can have some of the knowledge, and you can get a yellow badge instead of a green badge, and then you can only do like one of six London suburbs. 09:07.310 --> 09:10.352 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, do you hear the JV team? 09:10.432 --> 09:12.454 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the capital yellow belt and karate. 09:12.474 --> 09:13.975 [SPEAKER_02]: Like everyone knows you're inferior. 09:13.995 --> 09:14.895 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 09:15.416 --> 09:18.398 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, but maybe they're working towards the full knowledge. 09:18.558 --> 09:21.900 [SPEAKER_00]: They got some of the knowledge while they're working towards the full knowledge. 09:21.920 --> 09:22.561 [SPEAKER_02]: I assume. 09:25.106 --> 09:36.989 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, then, finally, as a taller fella, I've once made the mistake of summoning a red cheer vehicle so small I had to hook my knees and tuck my chin to my chest and even then the crown of my head was in contact with the roof lining the entire time. 09:38.029 --> 09:39.770 [SPEAKER_01]: A speed bump could have ended my life. 09:41.630 --> 09:43.431 [SPEAKER_01]: Now I pay for XL rides. 09:44.071 --> 09:46.491 [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas, all London black cabs have plenty 09:53.780 --> 09:56.143 [SPEAKER_02]: I would tell you that in foggy London, right? 09:56.403 --> 09:58.725 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a comedy-bolar hat at the time. 09:58.745 --> 10:01.568 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's horse drawn happy carriages. 10:02.449 --> 10:03.570 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they got the tradition. 10:05.732 --> 10:07.394 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I got the little backward seats, too. 10:07.414 --> 10:08.315 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's fun. 10:09.156 --> 10:09.596 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fun. 10:10.277 --> 10:10.758 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fun. 10:11.659 --> 10:12.499 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm moving to London. 10:16.863 --> 10:28.826 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's not a lot of sun there as we were talking about before the show I really do hate the sun So if I if I knew to find someplace that has even less sun than Michigan perhaps it's London How do you feel about a rain and? 10:30.346 --> 10:33.867 [SPEAKER_02]: Why feel fucking great about it and just fog? 10:34.487 --> 10:40.889 [SPEAKER_02]: Regigerated understatement Well, that I'm not so sure about but I like fog and mist 10:42.599 --> 10:50.281 [SPEAKER_02]: And I can make it so I don't have to leave the house. 10:50.861 --> 10:54.102 [SPEAKER_02]: I like it when it's all like focused on one thing like that, like I feel like I learned something. 10:54.182 --> 10:54.962 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. 10:56.703 --> 10:58.503 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a black cavity into the episode. 10:58.683 --> 11:00.664 [SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely don't want for a topic. 11:01.824 --> 11:02.104 [SPEAKER_01]: It did. 11:03.053 --> 11:12.101 [SPEAKER_01]: But at the beginning of the show, we got moves, we got gold chain, we got anime cat girls, hockey girl, and not the hot locks if he did rivalry, the Cold War greaseball variety. 11:12.542 --> 11:20.529 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're the cellophane crappy of an enemy, and they have a little arrangement fruit basket doing more of an epidemic every could. 11:21.350 --> 11:23.772 [SPEAKER_01]: Our common backyard, he's feeling overclocked. 11:24.696 --> 11:33.884 [SPEAKER_02]: Apparently he's voiced by Kevin Durand, who I quite like, and I don't know that Arcadey really talks at all, it's just kind of like, who makes me say this. 11:33.904 --> 11:36.806 [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of like, maybe she's mones and crones. 11:37.087 --> 11:38.228 [SPEAKER_02]: I just love it even more. 11:38.248 --> 11:39.769 [SPEAKER_02]: I fucking love Kevin Durand. 11:39.789 --> 11:41.270 [SPEAKER_02]: He's always doing weird shit like that. 11:41.751 --> 11:43.752 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like human hut. 11:45.394 --> 11:45.794 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:47.115 --> 11:48.116 [SPEAKER_00]: He's sweating. 11:48.136 --> 11:50.398 [SPEAKER_00]: You're just sitting there, dude. 11:50.478 --> 11:52.320 [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you sweating so much? 11:53.205 --> 11:55.486 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's very obese, even as a UI. 11:55.766 --> 11:57.266 [SPEAKER_02]: He's chose to be obese. 11:57.866 --> 11:58.327 [SPEAKER_02]: Keep in it. 11:59.747 --> 12:00.747 [SPEAKER_00]: He's confident. 12:00.787 --> 12:02.988 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's confident in their body. 12:03.348 --> 12:04.589 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, the cat lives love him. 12:04.909 --> 12:05.449 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 12:05.469 --> 12:08.370 [SPEAKER_01]: Other programs, you. 12:09.610 --> 12:14.011 [SPEAKER_01]: The nothing from the never-ending story all the well-stab Atlas hot couchs love. 12:15.032 --> 12:18.693 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, Wax been looking on realizes his starving program has been altered. 12:19.500 --> 12:23.202 [SPEAKER_01]: The NSA faxed and went to an unpredictable AI. 12:23.242 --> 12:23.702 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 12:24.162 --> 12:26.463 [SPEAKER_01]: Treating individuals self-adacting virus. 12:27.363 --> 12:29.644 [SPEAKER_02]: Whoopsie, AI's fucking shit up again. 12:30.244 --> 12:38.028 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad they, I'm glad they brought it into the show because like all this UI is a stand-in for AI who's starting to tread a little thin. 12:38.548 --> 12:40.069 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like we know AI exists. 12:41.269 --> 12:42.269 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you gotta have some of it. 12:43.050 --> 12:43.290 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 12:44.387 --> 12:52.833 [SPEAKER_01]: And we get our credits, and then we cut to an influenza, sorry, influencer, do an exposition. 12:53.233 --> 12:55.234 [SPEAKER_01]: We're in for Fogger Square. 12:56.055 --> 12:59.497 [SPEAKER_01]: Maddie's robot lately collides with the streamer and Maddie apologizes. 13:00.097 --> 13:03.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking herby from fantastic foreshows up apparently, all right. 13:05.220 --> 13:09.641 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the robot's hybrid design invoked the legs of the Tatycoma from Ghost in the Shell. 13:10.601 --> 13:11.221 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, I like that. 13:11.641 --> 13:14.502 [SPEAKER_00]: Did she mention a rice cooker as part of her body? 13:14.562 --> 13:15.222 [SPEAKER_01]: She does. 13:15.362 --> 13:15.562 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 13:16.482 --> 13:19.123 [SPEAKER_01]: To me, it looked like a gain-ray cooler first. 13:19.223 --> 13:19.803 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess. 13:20.143 --> 13:24.084 [SPEAKER_02]: But there's something about missed like being in the physical world that feels right. 13:24.364 --> 13:24.704 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 13:24.764 --> 13:26.164 [SPEAKER_02]: You should be in the physical world. 13:26.204 --> 13:30.525 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like a person, kind of, more so than any of the other UIs, which is right. 13:30.565 --> 13:30.865 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 13:30.885 --> 13:31.365 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot. 13:34.246 --> 13:43.454 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, looking like a R2 unit and it's got that, those anthropomorphized eyes of like those drones manufactured by the company server robotics. 13:43.754 --> 13:51.421 [SPEAKER_01]: You might see around like a college campus with the Uber Eats postmates logos and shit, sometimes they get a little flag stick on top. 13:52.462 --> 13:56.445 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, operators that may be to handle missed as grateful to have a body at all. 13:57.866 --> 14:02.090 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they really, they, they, they went hard on designing this to look friendly. 14:03.453 --> 14:16.102 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, matches your personality and the voice they chose for Thomas and whatever her name is Okay, look at that Thomas McKenzie. 14:16.222 --> 14:16.702 [SPEAKER_01]: There we go. 14:17.563 --> 14:24.668 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the only Thomas that I know I just couldn't think of her last name Yeah, I wouldn't run into a lot of Thomasons. 14:25.428 --> 14:27.710 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just thinking about the other day that every 14:33.187 --> 14:35.228 [SPEAKER_01]: was in Major League Baseball. 14:35.768 --> 14:38.170 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know other male jodies. 14:39.991 --> 14:45.493 [SPEAKER_02]: How many people, how many people period have you met that are playing in Major League Baseball? 14:45.713 --> 14:47.074 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, just know of the boundaries. 14:48.055 --> 14:50.316 [SPEAKER_02]: You just know of them, because they're in Major League Baseball. 14:50.456 --> 14:50.736 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 14:51.717 --> 14:52.757 [SPEAKER_02]: I work with a jodie. 14:52.977 --> 14:54.238 [SPEAKER_02]: This jodie is female. 14:56.419 --> 15:00.281 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've ever knowingly met a male jodie. 15:02.987 --> 15:03.548 [SPEAKER_01]: I know a joke. 15:03.568 --> 15:04.488 [SPEAKER_02]: I got a joke. 15:04.949 --> 15:06.070 [SPEAKER_02]: I got a joke out there. 15:06.790 --> 15:07.471 [SPEAKER_02]: I know a jobes. 15:07.751 --> 15:08.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, jobes. 15:08.752 --> 15:09.612 [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to jobes. 15:09.632 --> 15:10.413 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he listens. 15:10.853 --> 15:11.133 [SPEAKER_02]: Jobes. 15:11.153 --> 15:11.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 15:12.054 --> 15:15.537 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 15:15.557 --> 15:27.306 [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, and this highlights a flaw in Caspian's logic, that to the feed holes from the UI, Caspian intends to develop a stronger UI, the development of which would further holes from salt to make coal. 15:28.107 --> 15:29.588 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is sad pretty quick. 15:30.469 --> 15:30.889 [SPEAKER_00]: And then. 15:32.562 --> 15:35.304 [SPEAKER_00]: She's kind of like, they're like annoyed, right? 15:35.824 --> 15:37.345 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, stop talking about that. 15:39.246 --> 15:43.889 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's a big accurate statement that goes quick. 15:45.890 --> 15:48.492 [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of been Caspian's whole deal from the beginning. 15:48.632 --> 15:55.316 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like any other Silicon Valley founder tell you if you just want to be questioned and just, you know, go along with the plan. 15:55.396 --> 15:56.016 [SPEAKER_01]: Do what I said. 15:56.857 --> 16:00.319 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's like, but there is like a more of a softness to him, 16:02.708 --> 16:02.988 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 16:03.148 --> 16:06.029 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much of that is because of him being a clone. 16:06.489 --> 16:07.770 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's more just because he's young. 16:08.370 --> 16:13.451 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you give this guy like a couple more years and he's going to be insufferable. 16:13.831 --> 16:18.093 [SPEAKER_02]: Had Maddie not come into his life because she seems to be the only thing that makes him act like a person. 16:18.653 --> 16:18.933 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 16:19.773 --> 16:20.013 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 16:21.654 --> 16:25.075 [SPEAKER_01]: And turns out most of humanity has become united against 16:27.248 --> 16:32.790 [SPEAKER_02]: But at least what's that like We're not seeing any parallels in real time here. 16:32.810 --> 16:35.191 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we not at all? 16:35.291 --> 16:52.517 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no data center protests Lots of them But you know, there are the true believers out there and there's at least one true eye believer that has tagged the building casting plans to use as a HQ with dinal live forever 16:54.295 --> 16:54.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds great. 16:55.496 --> 16:56.836 [SPEAKER_02]: Logical. 16:56.856 --> 16:59.178 [SPEAKER_01]: The next home motto, I guess. 17:00.979 --> 17:10.604 [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's place where what's it's like, Altman has already pledged $10,000 to have his brain life scanned or whatever. 17:10.644 --> 17:11.684 [SPEAKER_00]: $10,000, that's it. 17:12.765 --> 17:13.685 [SPEAKER_01]: He got it in on the ground floor. 17:13.705 --> 17:15.566 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, OK. 17:16.447 --> 17:21.969 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's be honest, someone's got to take $10,000 and put his brain in a fucking, you know, Mason jar. 17:24.822 --> 17:25.923 [SPEAKER_02]: But that'll be the end of that. 17:25.943 --> 17:31.889 [SPEAKER_01]: Then we cut to a whole screw. 17:31.929 --> 17:36.874 [SPEAKER_01]: He's decorating the virtual prison news shares with Chondon Paine before announcing he will escape. 17:37.915 --> 17:41.880 [SPEAKER_01]: And he implies he's going to retrieve some new eye code to perfect his sonates. 17:43.221 --> 17:43.561 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 17:43.982 --> 17:45.924 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just he just talks and it's gross. 17:47.607 --> 17:51.948 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, William heard is the perfect voice for this character. 17:52.008 --> 17:53.488 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so, he's so good. 17:53.508 --> 17:54.508 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 17:54.708 --> 17:56.549 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just wonderful casting. 17:56.589 --> 18:00.190 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just so derisive and let's appear here. 18:00.210 --> 18:00.790 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 18:00.830 --> 18:05.671 [SPEAKER_01]: And the loof and yeah, uh, uh, uh, perfect. 18:06.491 --> 18:12.032 [SPEAKER_01]: Got to be hating him like, uh, you know, if you're hitting on Samantha Sloy and in the last series, right? 18:14.112 --> 18:21.578 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh shit, what's the name of the death lady that he used to be with that was in children of a lesser god that he physically abused? 18:22.339 --> 18:22.899 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 18:22.919 --> 18:41.115 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me hate him like her, who's morally madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly madly mad 18:45.418 --> 18:47.019 [SPEAKER_02]: Good performance in this show though. 18:47.080 --> 18:49.082 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, Bill. 18:49.322 --> 18:51.344 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man. 18:51.984 --> 18:55.388 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to have an art and the artist kind of recation today. 18:56.068 --> 18:56.649 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry. 18:57.250 --> 18:58.371 [SPEAKER_00]: We just put that on hold. 18:58.391 --> 19:01.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, put it on hold. 19:01.774 --> 19:06.599 [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Maddie and Cassian attempt to evaluate Olivia Evans from Stale video evidence. 19:07.787 --> 19:13.511 [SPEAKER_01]: But without consulting the others, Cassfion has arranged a meeting with the lit via Evans on a zero-trust network. 19:15.553 --> 19:19.856 [SPEAKER_00]: Just wait and go, do a big move without consulting your teammate. 19:21.037 --> 19:21.498 [SPEAKER_01]: T-mates? 19:21.618 --> 19:23.259 [SPEAKER_00]: We can speak another big move. 19:23.279 --> 19:24.860 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, team out, teammates, yeah. 19:25.461 --> 19:28.443 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, I'm gonna say this now, I guess. 19:28.463 --> 19:30.705 [SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't sure when I was gonna say this, but I guess I'll say it now. 19:30.765 --> 19:35.869 [SPEAKER_02]: This is probably the episode that is least interested me in this whole series. 19:37.150 --> 19:41.658 [SPEAKER_02]: And for me, that reasons, I mean, there's some real high points here. 19:41.678 --> 19:42.299 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong. 19:43.120 --> 19:50.633 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that for me, even though we took a fuckin' like two or three week break between episodes, I just feel like two episodes in a row when we've only got like... 19:51.506 --> 19:56.991 [SPEAKER_02]: a few episodes left in this series where it's like, here's a bunch of new people we're going to spend some time with. 19:57.011 --> 20:00.474 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, again, I'm going to learn a little bit of the game. 20:00.514 --> 20:01.135 [SPEAKER_02]: Like what the fuck? 20:01.155 --> 20:02.976 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to like develop the people I know already. 20:03.016 --> 20:04.257 [SPEAKER_02]: Like get what you're doing. 20:04.638 --> 20:05.499 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't thrilled with that. 20:05.679 --> 20:07.721 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's that there's one 20:09.623 --> 20:16.006 [SPEAKER_00]: They have these other concepts and they can't stick those in with the characters we're already with. 20:16.026 --> 20:17.367 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess. 20:17.847 --> 20:18.187 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 20:18.307 --> 20:23.970 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's where to inform this world, right? 20:24.070 --> 20:32.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Because we're getting this love arc and like soulmates that are UIs and like what they did to. 20:32.555 --> 20:38.058 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they're wanting to introduce concepts but there's no other UIs. 20:38.918 --> 20:39.758 [SPEAKER_00]: that we already know. 20:39.778 --> 20:41.299 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that that would work. 20:41.619 --> 20:44.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I could see Chanda and Ping hitting it off. 20:46.200 --> 20:48.261 [SPEAKER_00]: Ping man, he's just, woo. 20:49.201 --> 20:50.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Get a little more up. 20:50.481 --> 20:52.582 [SPEAKER_00]: Him, he's a little brutal dude. 20:53.242 --> 20:55.923 [SPEAKER_01]: I could see Joey do pay hitting it off with the clone of herself. 20:56.843 --> 20:57.923 [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. 20:58.323 --> 20:58.903 [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. 20:58.923 --> 21:00.424 [SPEAKER_00]: 100%. 21:03.373 --> 21:17.256 [SPEAKER_01]: So, meeting has been a range, or you know, requested, we get Olivia's cable net, you eye network, and it's meeting with the cable net sweater of a handler that urges caution. 21:18.556 --> 21:24.017 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's either for the chance to correct her UI flaw, even if it means ignoring Admiral mascot over here. 21:25.658 --> 21:29.019 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, it's a trap, but he, you know, it's covered up with his mascot. 21:29.639 --> 21:29.879 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 21:29.999 --> 21:30.759 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not efficient. 21:32.864 --> 21:34.065 [SPEAKER_02]: What are they calling for? 21:34.085 --> 21:35.886 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a British man with an Esca. 21:36.106 --> 21:37.246 [SPEAKER_02]: Were they calling like a fuck? 21:37.266 --> 21:40.267 [SPEAKER_02]: They call him something stupid, like shrimp or something stupid? 21:40.508 --> 21:41.148 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 21:41.208 --> 21:43.749 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like pond column R here something like that. 21:43.789 --> 21:45.690 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, something column R here. 21:45.710 --> 21:47.210 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we don't know what column R is. 21:47.270 --> 21:48.491 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, delicious. 21:49.251 --> 21:50.172 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's that. 21:50.732 --> 21:51.692 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's pretty new. 21:51.953 --> 21:54.514 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a part of everything deep fried as good. 21:54.554 --> 21:57.055 [SPEAKER_02]: You could deep fry carcaries of carcades will be delicious. 21:57.095 --> 21:59.517 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, you'd deep fry it for 30 seconds. 22:00.037 --> 22:02.818 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what people make them astray if not doing that with Kalimari. 22:02.838 --> 22:03.759 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it gets rubbery. 22:03.899 --> 22:07.581 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you had to do it, you really can't be thin-coated. 22:07.841 --> 22:09.542 [SPEAKER_00]: More of a tempura situation. 22:09.582 --> 22:12.784 [SPEAKER_00]: You hit it for 30 seconds or else it is car tires. 22:13.124 --> 22:14.025 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like eating dog. 22:14.705 --> 22:15.245 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do it. 22:17.046 --> 22:17.606 [SPEAKER_02]: Too smart. 22:18.287 --> 22:18.867 [SPEAKER_02]: Too smart. 22:20.548 --> 22:21.989 [SPEAKER_01]: These are mean little squids, man. 22:22.969 --> 22:23.730 [SPEAKER_01]: They like to eat them. 22:23.750 --> 22:25.511 [SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of like, they're kind of like, oxypuses. 22:28.092 --> 22:29.373 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're like little things. 22:29.573 --> 22:30.693 [SPEAKER_00]: Columari is squid. 22:30.994 --> 22:31.854 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not octagon. 22:31.874 --> 22:33.215 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm still not interested. 22:33.235 --> 22:33.935 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking gross. 22:33.995 --> 22:37.017 [SPEAKER_02]: We need a little rubber tires. 22:37.512 --> 22:40.894 [SPEAKER_00]: Shrimp or cockroaches lobster Yeah, I always shrimp either. 22:40.914 --> 22:45.537 [SPEAKER_02]: I can go on about this for a while These things fill lobsters are fucking spiders. 22:45.557 --> 22:45.977 [SPEAKER_02]: No, thank you. 22:46.017 --> 22:49.920 [SPEAKER_00]: They are Oh, boy 22:54.177 --> 22:59.200 [SPEAKER_00]: a bit of the side there, at least I don't like seafood very much. 22:59.220 --> 23:03.402 [SPEAKER_00]: She lives in like a place where you can get fresh seafood mecca. 23:03.663 --> 23:10.847 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, seafood town just to walk down the halt, the road five minutes and you can get all this fresh seafood. 23:11.327 --> 23:11.667 [SPEAKER_02]: Love it. 23:12.408 --> 23:13.888 [SPEAKER_02]: I say all this and I love catfish. 23:14.049 --> 23:14.669 [SPEAKER_02]: So go figure. 23:14.789 --> 23:15.129 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 23:15.349 --> 23:16.410 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fucking weird. 23:16.810 --> 23:17.090 [SPEAKER_02]: I know. 23:17.751 --> 23:17.991 [SPEAKER_02]: I know. 23:18.291 --> 23:19.252 [SPEAKER_02]: What catfish is good. 23:19.532 --> 23:19.852 [SPEAKER_02]: Weird. 23:25.194 --> 23:28.275 [SPEAKER_01]: So Olivia already has the jump on Caspian. 23:28.295 --> 23:31.596 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like she knows that's who she's gonna be interacting with. 23:32.136 --> 23:33.976 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, I love that we see him going. 23:34.476 --> 23:37.597 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't know who we are or where it is. 23:37.637 --> 23:39.158 [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, she's like, her room's on Caspian. 23:39.178 --> 23:42.458 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah. 23:42.958 --> 23:52.701 [SPEAKER_01]: And but then Caspian, even after he's been called out, he establishes trust by immediately giving up his advantage, which is he knows about the holes from you. 23:54.216 --> 23:56.737 [SPEAKER_01]: and so he hands over virtual thumb drive to Olivia. 23:57.558 --> 23:58.098 [SPEAKER_01]: She does. 23:58.158 --> 24:06.743 [SPEAKER_02]: And if there is, I mean, as Maddie points out, Olivia kind of shows trust first by letting him know that she knows who he is in a way. 24:06.763 --> 24:07.724 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. 24:09.905 --> 24:10.385 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 24:11.286 --> 24:13.087 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like they're trying to establish something here. 24:13.247 --> 24:14.307 [SPEAKER_01]: They're definitely interested. 24:14.968 --> 24:18.430 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you get two people coming in, two sides. 24:19.421 --> 24:21.502 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there were good intentions. 24:21.823 --> 24:32.609 [SPEAKER_02]: Two people are the big diamond being like, you know, yeah, the court rituals here for trying to find a cure to or a person to give the cure to is it's strange. 24:33.149 --> 24:36.331 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know what I wanted to ask is zero trust network. 24:36.391 --> 24:38.153 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that a thing outside of the show? 24:38.333 --> 24:39.714 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that a really thing? 24:39.814 --> 24:40.114 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 24:41.775 --> 24:42.035 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 24:43.538 --> 24:44.458 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and that we're heard of it. 24:45.118 --> 24:48.639 [SPEAKER_01]: So she digests the data and they're proposal to cure the flaw. 24:49.359 --> 24:55.961 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, she says she'd seen her see the care applied to the love of her life and stonctious rhetorical opponent is raining in U.I. 24:56.201 --> 24:57.121 [SPEAKER_01]: far-hawed screaming. 24:58.781 --> 25:10.384 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it starts with a man sort of publicly nagging the lady, making a little joke on the panel to then people laugh. 25:11.213 --> 25:22.203 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the most salient contention between them is, say, Olivia desires syncretism between biological and uploaded intelligence whereas far-hawed feels certain that humanity will always otherwise you eyes. 25:23.104 --> 25:26.527 [SPEAKER_02]: All I could think about is it, like, there's like five other motherfuckers on this panel. 25:26.547 --> 25:30.691 [SPEAKER_02]: They're just sitting there with their fingers off their butts, like, what do you do get something to say? 25:33.513 --> 25:35.075 [SPEAKER_01]: Have a take and don't suck. 25:38.292 --> 25:48.359 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so again, without consultation, Cassvena announces that we agree with Olivia's views, pre-opload anyway, but as a UI, her views have changed. 25:49.079 --> 25:53.001 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, big soccer, people grow and change. 25:54.723 --> 25:58.745 [SPEAKER_02]: Becoming a UI made her less sympathetic towards UIs, it says a lot. 26:01.032 --> 26:07.414 [SPEAKER_01]: So turns out Olivia had been uploaded by MI6 and Farhad was presumably uploaded by the IRGC. 26:08.894 --> 26:14.436 [SPEAKER_01]: They had a little meat kit when they bumped into each other, disinfecting servers from malicious bot posts. 26:15.556 --> 26:22.638 [SPEAKER_01]: And then this initiates a slow burning romance which in relative time took only seconds since the overclock to keep their meeting secret from the governments. 26:24.244 --> 26:34.094 [SPEAKER_01]: and it culminates in a moment of intimacy that only U.S. could experience namely farhudd come to comprehensively penetrates Olivia and all respects is her the dope U.I. 26:34.174 --> 26:37.677 [SPEAKER_01]: avatar and have its memory of her childhood hole. 26:37.717 --> 26:40.640 [SPEAKER_00]: That yes, okay, and even says sneaks out. 26:41.020 --> 26:43.283 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, okay, how old will she in this memory? 26:43.303 --> 26:44.003 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're 26:44.833 --> 26:50.518 [SPEAKER_00]: We see her as a adult, but still, that freaks me out a little. 26:50.718 --> 26:54.642 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, there will never be enough to overclock you, I therapist in the universe. 26:55.202 --> 26:55.883 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:55.943 --> 26:57.024 [SPEAKER_02]: Say what he was going to do. 26:57.064 --> 26:57.745 [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't tell her. 26:58.005 --> 27:01.928 [SPEAKER_02]: He just told her, like, think of something when you're by yourself and he's like, walk it into you. 27:01.968 --> 27:02.569 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm taking it over. 27:02.589 --> 27:03.069 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 27:03.570 --> 27:05.652 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm going to see dayo through your body. 27:08.278 --> 27:14.001 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it informed enthusiastic consent was given because she did not know what this was called. 27:14.021 --> 27:16.022 [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't know he was coming, okay? 27:16.782 --> 27:24.425 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that is the implication that they're seeking the cure and one another. 27:24.445 --> 27:27.927 [SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of like fumbling toward the answer that Casping Disco. 27:29.065 --> 27:31.566 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or fumbling toward ecstasy. 27:31.906 --> 27:32.327 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly. 27:32.347 --> 27:34.788 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you do have a little role in the hate there. 27:35.168 --> 27:35.788 [SPEAKER_02]: They do. 27:36.048 --> 27:36.569 [SPEAKER_00]: They do. 27:36.989 --> 27:41.451 [SPEAKER_00]: You eyes, twist, and turn, and yeah, a little inspired animation there. 27:41.951 --> 27:42.232 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:42.832 --> 27:44.273 [SPEAKER_00]: Twin flame imagery. 27:44.613 --> 27:47.634 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 27:47.974 --> 27:50.996 [SPEAKER_01]: Turns out farhots flaws, far more advanced than Olivia's. 27:51.416 --> 27:53.937 [SPEAKER_01]: And Maddie is moved and compelled. 27:53.997 --> 27:55.058 [SPEAKER_01]: She wants to tell their story. 27:57.679 --> 27:59.140 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's like, hold up. 27:59.220 --> 27:59.941 [SPEAKER_00]: This is great. 28:00.021 --> 28:01.842 [SPEAKER_00]: These people, this is what we're looking for. 28:01.882 --> 28:02.863 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a great PR. 28:03.223 --> 28:04.284 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right, exactly. 28:05.785 --> 28:13.150 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Holstrom invades farhud server and presents like Annie Charlotton, Huskster, influencer, Flintland man would. 28:13.970 --> 28:15.371 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I feel better than ever. 28:15.471 --> 28:16.932 [SPEAKER_01]: And with my help, you can too. 28:17.433 --> 28:19.254 [SPEAKER_01]: Here, take my Messianic hand. 28:20.988 --> 28:24.449 [SPEAKER_00]: He's really got his hands all up in his guts. 28:25.210 --> 28:25.450 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 28:25.810 --> 28:27.750 [SPEAKER_00]: The poor man is like stroked out. 28:28.071 --> 28:29.971 [SPEAKER_00]: He's thinking about his lady love. 28:29.991 --> 28:33.913 [SPEAKER_01]: And we've returned to Ellen. 28:34.353 --> 28:40.715 [SPEAKER_01]: Ellen returns Peter's par glasses and asked him to track her teenage daughter, which is totally normal and in no way contradictory. 28:45.697 --> 28:47.618 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a perfect lesson back. 28:48.578 --> 28:50.099 [SPEAKER_02]: He has a wife for kids who says he's here, right? 28:50.819 --> 28:54.801 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he married or divorced? 28:55.542 --> 28:56.602 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he does. 28:57.663 --> 28:58.843 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I don't know. 28:58.883 --> 29:00.224 [SPEAKER_02]: He brings her a coat later on. 29:00.264 --> 29:03.005 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, huh, let's go on here. 29:03.045 --> 29:05.607 [SPEAKER_02]: Something something when he puts that coat around her shoulders later on in the episode. 29:06.227 --> 29:07.588 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 29:07.628 --> 29:08.368 [SPEAKER_02]: Something happened in here. 29:10.650 --> 29:16.116 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Waxman says he's not exactly glued in after the government took his code, altered it, and threw him in a save house. 29:19.319 --> 29:24.945 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Ellen drops the Caspy and cracked integrity bomb on PD, who reacts like it's the first time he's sort of it. 29:26.486 --> 29:27.247 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:29.608 --> 29:32.312 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, Paine reveals his gambit to Chanda. 29:32.974 --> 29:42.150 [SPEAKER_01]: Paine leaked Caspian's identity to six nation states because Paine believes Caspian, not Holstrom, is the only avenue leading to the correction of his UI flaw. 29:42.961 --> 29:45.462 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the stuff that I want more of. 29:45.482 --> 29:48.683 [SPEAKER_02]: This is why I'm a little irritated that I'm getting all these new characters. 29:48.703 --> 29:50.464 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm like, I'm really starting to dig ping. 29:50.544 --> 29:55.506 [SPEAKER_02]: The more we get, like, these glimpses of ping, and the more I'm like, this dude's complex. 29:56.847 --> 29:57.367 [SPEAKER_02]: He's her ex. 29:57.407 --> 30:03.469 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got his own ideologies, but then, like, he's also trying to serve himself, like, protect himself. 30:04.030 --> 30:08.631 [SPEAKER_02]: I really find him to be a pretty fascinating character and the more we learn about him, I like it more. 30:09.312 --> 30:10.652 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's got the ex, tritidory. 30:14.339 --> 30:26.104 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a trope in there's been a trope of that type of like elder Asian man, right, who's like wise and kind and peaceful. 30:26.904 --> 30:32.526 [SPEAKER_00]: And so this is taking that and sort of like, no, this is very nuanced character. 30:32.546 --> 30:34.147 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot going on with this guy. 30:35.638 --> 30:41.903 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I like that he's like, we get this moment where he and Chanda are kind of having to like two sides. 30:42.563 --> 30:42.804 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 30:42.844 --> 30:43.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 30:44.025 --> 30:47.747 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, aren't we already fucking deformed by him? 30:47.767 --> 30:49.269 [SPEAKER_02]: Hasn't that been that a betrayal? 30:49.289 --> 30:50.089 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 30:50.730 --> 30:56.474 [SPEAKER_00]: And why does Chanda, why does he, like, holds from so much? 30:56.534 --> 30:59.857 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he even says to ping like, please, just don't betray him. 31:00.776 --> 31:05.358 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think that makes sense to a degree, because Chand has definitely come in from with a tech world. 31:05.398 --> 31:14.681 [SPEAKER_02]: So he would have already probably seen Holstrom as like a major figure and you know, looked up to him back when Holstrom was alive, maybe more so than ping. 31:14.761 --> 31:17.943 [SPEAKER_02]: But also I think that like, it's a desperation thing. 31:17.963 --> 31:20.324 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he sees Holstrom as their only chance. 31:20.764 --> 31:21.604 [SPEAKER_02]: So they'll piss him off. 31:21.864 --> 31:22.244 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 31:23.345 --> 31:26.206 [SPEAKER_01]: With ping scenes, you know, the Holstrom has other plans for them. 31:26.992 --> 31:28.453 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, ping smarter than Chanda. 31:28.954 --> 31:29.314 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 31:29.734 --> 31:30.455 [SPEAKER_00]: Is his plan? 31:30.515 --> 31:31.276 [SPEAKER_00]: Is ping's plan? 31:31.316 --> 31:36.760 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, we're going to hope that the other guy never finds out. 31:36.960 --> 31:39.782 [SPEAKER_00]: I leaked his info because I want his help. 31:41.784 --> 31:42.925 [SPEAKER_02]: Very opportunistic. 31:42.965 --> 31:44.346 [SPEAKER_02]: Very, you know, utilitarian. 31:44.366 --> 31:46.228 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just going to, like, whatever moves he can make. 31:46.248 --> 31:47.048 [SPEAKER_02]: He'll, he'll, he'll make them. 31:49.952 --> 31:57.355 [SPEAKER_01]: And meanwhile, we come back to Dr. Steven Holtz from Mangala, who's a performing experimental surgery on his conscious subject far-hodd. 31:57.935 --> 31:58.856 [SPEAKER_01]: We think of love again. 31:58.876 --> 32:00.036 [SPEAKER_01]: We just think about it. 32:00.597 --> 32:01.417 [SPEAKER_02]: I think of your sweetheart. 32:01.797 --> 32:02.197 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. 32:02.697 --> 32:03.378 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was close. 32:03.698 --> 32:05.058 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not corrupting that at all, am I? 32:06.859 --> 32:16.203 [SPEAKER_01]: Then we get the lovely animation again, and we get the sort of blue glow that indicated love when they were, you know, kind of, intermingled, and so, 32:20.531 --> 32:42.317 [SPEAKER_01]: and then like you get to see like that's the color of mist as well like the the sims yeah the blue yeah she's blue so uh and but then once again like holsterners and what he's looking at the concept of love is completely alien to him well in all fairness I don't know that I would recognize a physical manifestation of love either 32:44.428 --> 32:47.570 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not fucking, you know, we're hanging over something like that. 32:47.610 --> 32:48.311 [SPEAKER_02]: He's looking at code. 32:48.331 --> 32:52.154 [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking at fucking, like, Why is he's kneel, though? 32:52.274 --> 32:53.915 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's how his brain works. 32:54.035 --> 32:55.796 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like he's one of the code. 32:55.816 --> 32:58.619 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's code. 33:00.200 --> 33:00.760 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll allow it. 33:03.642 --> 33:08.766 [SPEAKER_01]: And speaking of Mr. We got Olivia asking Maddie's sister if the cure will hurt. 33:09.587 --> 33:12.109 [SPEAKER_01]: If it is repeatable, then what to expect after? 33:12.897 --> 33:14.978 [SPEAKER_01]: And Mr. Zolli was like, IDK, I want to try. 33:14.998 --> 33:16.598 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:16.878 --> 33:21.499 [SPEAKER_02]: But questions that what's your nuts, the other astronaut, did not consider not at all that? 33:22.820 --> 33:23.080 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:24.000 --> 33:25.280 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's, whatever. 33:25.580 --> 33:27.441 [SPEAKER_00]: It's very telling of. 33:28.541 --> 33:31.482 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, almost immediately, like this is the one they're looking for. 33:31.882 --> 33:33.423 [SPEAKER_02]: Olivia is the one they've been looking for. 33:33.483 --> 33:35.063 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the one that they can trust. 33:36.475 --> 33:50.178 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 33:50.864 --> 33:51.364 [SPEAKER_00]: job. 33:51.384 --> 33:56.588 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the career she was drawn to was thinking through these things and all of this where protecting people. 33:56.928 --> 34:00.570 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and to pay was just like, I'm an explorer. 34:00.590 --> 34:04.393 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to hotshot it up to Mars or wherever, you know. 34:04.433 --> 34:05.594 [SPEAKER_02]: What's more nationalistic? 34:05.894 --> 34:06.494 [SPEAKER_02]: We're laughing. 34:06.855 --> 34:07.115 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 34:07.335 --> 34:10.177 [SPEAKER_02]: Or ping before he was UI anyway. 34:11.097 --> 34:12.178 [SPEAKER_01]: How much top gun fabric? 34:13.479 --> 34:15.560 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, I'm more of a goose myself. 34:19.005 --> 34:22.906 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I mean, I was going to be dead at some point, but I'm going to fly it around the mean time. 34:22.926 --> 34:24.006 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 34:24.566 --> 34:27.587 [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, play some, play some hot volleyball. 34:28.287 --> 34:29.748 [SPEAKER_02]: Or look, I'm just, I'm bald, all right? 34:29.968 --> 34:34.809 [SPEAKER_02]: Anthony Edwards is bald, I'm bald, but so, obviously I'm goose, I'm not going to be ice-man. 34:35.849 --> 34:36.489 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be ice-man. 34:36.509 --> 34:36.929 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be ice-man. 34:36.949 --> 34:37.729 [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking flat top. 34:38.850 --> 34:41.770 [SPEAKER_01]: He's in 1954. 34:46.516 --> 34:52.118 [SPEAKER_01]: So back in the server far, Maddy and Casphian discuss how much agency they might even have. 34:52.178 --> 34:56.180 [SPEAKER_01]: The CI missed will decide whether to apply the ever-volving care. 34:57.080 --> 35:04.743 [SPEAKER_01]: And while Maddy was working on all long, Casphian finally arrives at the conclusion that Idoling is the same as bowing down the holster. 35:05.683 --> 35:07.444 [SPEAKER_01]: And the any effort is better than done. 35:10.125 --> 35:10.505 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why. 35:17.047 --> 35:21.952 [SPEAKER_01]: Maddie and Caspian are inspired by Olivia and Farhud to have their own romantic moment. 35:23.093 --> 35:25.696 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's in real time and an alarm sounds. 35:26.640 --> 35:29.061 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they get an actual kiss. 35:29.181 --> 35:34.643 [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I'm finally gotten the guts to revisit that, right? 35:34.823 --> 35:39.884 [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, oh, I'm so, I don't what happened on the bus and he's like, we're not gonna talk. 35:40.245 --> 35:42.085 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna show you with action, baby. 35:43.846 --> 35:50.848 [SPEAKER_02]: And doesn't she also like, she's like, and that's why I like that, or whatever, it's like, you, yeah, it was cute. 35:57.995 --> 36:01.297 [SPEAKER_00]: And the kiss wasn't gross, it was sweet. 36:01.337 --> 36:02.358 [SPEAKER_00]: She's a teenager. 36:02.398 --> 36:14.706 [SPEAKER_01]: She's yeah, she's a little, she's young and the alarm is lovely, but she will not accept the care without far-hives, so she summons him via digitally encrypted service bell. 36:15.286 --> 36:19.889 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that choice is ironic. 36:20.029 --> 36:23.911 [SPEAKER_01]: The summoning brings far-hives along with whole-stream in his architecture and 36:28.529 --> 36:40.800 [SPEAKER_01]: Caspian refused Holstrom assertion of possessing the cure and Holstrom clocks Maddie as daughter of David Kim and pleads the shaggy defense of it wouldn't me It was Jewish Pope 36:42.891 --> 37:02.201 [SPEAKER_02]: But Caspian's response to this is perfectly like yeah, like fucking you know hook your wagon to this guy's star clearly He's really loyal to the people that Higher lie He's planned like he just throw his Pope under the bus there like it's nothing Pope is probably the most loyal perp besides you know what's their name? 37:02.221 --> 37:07.444 [SPEAKER_02]: Well crazy eyes Besides her like Pope is the most devoted person to him on the planet 37:09.385 --> 37:14.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think about that scene where we, we see them go down and look at his brain. 37:15.047 --> 37:15.327 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 37:15.727 --> 37:17.228 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he won't focus you so much. 37:17.248 --> 37:17.768 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 37:17.888 --> 37:20.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Pope was like, just, like, ripped up. 37:21.369 --> 37:21.869 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 37:22.210 --> 37:24.390 [SPEAKER_00]: He was enthralled. 37:26.391 --> 37:27.451 [SPEAKER_01]: I did like the far too. 37:27.471 --> 37:33.313 [SPEAKER_01]: We're casting a scene, you know, sarcastic about, Oh, he's a real super loyal. 37:33.533 --> 37:35.374 [SPEAKER_01]: And Miss just like, I did text our castle. 37:36.074 --> 37:36.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 37:39.654 --> 37:57.811 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... holstrom does a matrix in a race is the virtual malice of uh... maddie and cast me in and then he advances toward a living in mist and holstrom says we can discuss ontology later as if it doesn't fucking affect everything and like a trip to the river a living a blast the holstrom avatar out of her milk milk 37:59.796 --> 38:03.757 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Holstrom does like a general's odd floating around and blaming his victim. 38:04.977 --> 38:09.678 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's again, it's like blaming the victim abuse of parent. 38:09.838 --> 38:12.379 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, look what you made me do to you. 38:12.559 --> 38:14.139 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just this whole thing. 38:14.159 --> 38:17.780 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a gross. 38:17.840 --> 38:23.701 [SPEAKER_01]: But then misrises to the occasions and code complete, Olivia flips to pilot powered I name it. 38:25.921 --> 38:27.982 [SPEAKER_02]: And then look on Holstrom's face here. 38:28.881 --> 38:31.924 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like Thanos being like all of that for a drop of blood only. 38:31.944 --> 38:32.645 [SPEAKER_02]: It's worth it more. 38:33.646 --> 38:33.946 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 38:34.487 --> 38:35.188 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 38:35.788 --> 38:36.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Just the the jaw drop. 38:37.010 --> 38:38.351 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, yeah, fuck you. 38:38.391 --> 38:38.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Holds room. 38:39.993 --> 38:41.254 [SPEAKER_01]: It just satisfying moment. 38:41.935 --> 38:42.155 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 38:43.396 --> 38:44.397 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 38:44.437 --> 38:45.458 [SPEAKER_01]: That this battle's so big. 38:45.518 --> 38:48.642 [SPEAKER_01]: It registers a maximum tracker, which also just plays the split. 38:48.682 --> 38:50.644 [SPEAKER_01]: These are the deployment of safe surf. 38:51.224 --> 38:51.565 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing. 38:53.252 --> 38:54.713 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, what's going on? 38:54.753 --> 38:57.234 [SPEAKER_00]: There's three signatures out there. 38:57.254 --> 38:57.775 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 38:58.335 --> 38:59.456 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're running hot. 39:01.737 --> 39:08.121 [SPEAKER_01]: So the nothing shows up in a final act of love, Olivia tries to green lantern, the nothing by slamming a book on it. 39:10.142 --> 39:12.823 [SPEAKER_01]: And anything to distract from her wounded love far hard. 39:13.584 --> 39:15.225 [SPEAKER_01]: And she is consumed and disintegrated. 39:16.478 --> 39:36.752 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, hang on though because like our Katie and her both we see like after they're disintegrated We see like their image in the Nothing after I just like ghost What should that mean yeah, I kind of reminds me of Superman Really put the bad guys in that like 39:38.001 --> 39:39.802 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, another gentleman's out of reference. 39:40.383 --> 39:43.565 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, they put them in the window and it like flies away. 39:43.585 --> 39:44.285 [SPEAKER_00]: The Phantom Zone. 39:44.806 --> 39:45.986 [SPEAKER_00]: The Phantom Zone, exactly. 39:46.006 --> 39:46.507 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good. 39:46.947 --> 39:48.468 [SPEAKER_00]: DeNata is the Phantom Zone. 39:48.488 --> 39:50.469 [SPEAKER_00]: The Nothing. 39:52.831 --> 39:57.014 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you can't say. 40:00.988 --> 40:05.332 [SPEAKER_01]: Like also, and that scene for some reason, Holster wasn't also equally pursued by the nothing. 40:05.872 --> 40:06.153 [SPEAKER_01]: Why? 40:06.173 --> 40:06.913 [SPEAKER_01]: Unclear. 40:06.933 --> 40:10.357 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it does go after, it takes his hand, but you're right. 40:10.377 --> 40:14.400 [SPEAKER_02]: It goes after Olivia, way more first, because that's what's convenient for the plot. 40:14.981 --> 40:17.063 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly. 40:18.024 --> 40:25.150 [SPEAKER_01]: So, Holster makes that last second attempt to kidnap missed as any sociopathic billionaire would. 40:25.933 --> 40:49.584 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... but his target escape so he retreats to his sandalike prison in cell phones by applying a guillotine to a swarm room into one hundred twenty seven hours arm yeah it's very looks guywalker and Darth Vader ray he loses a hand yeah all uh well and to me it may be think of like a zombie infection like oh i got bit i got chapped off this limb and like yeah i can throw it doesn't affect the rest of me 40:57.148 --> 41:15.082 [SPEAKER_02]: yeah but like why do you have to keep losing your hand if you're made of code you could like redistribute your body and make yourself like a couple inches shorter or something I don't know yeah it might be some things that were hard coded that were affected that you had to go back and re-hard code for seems like a real easy answer Steve like you had 41:16.928 --> 41:19.629 [SPEAKER_00]: I just assumed like he'd grow another hand. 41:19.749 --> 41:22.371 [SPEAKER_00]: So the next episode will have his hand back. 41:22.391 --> 41:23.971 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't find out, I guess. 41:24.552 --> 41:33.176 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he'll have a robot hand or like a thing that can take all kinds of shapes as different tools at his convenience. 41:34.456 --> 41:35.457 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's miss Army hand. 41:36.177 --> 41:38.698 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it could be any of those. 41:39.599 --> 41:42.520 [SPEAKER_01]: And Ash from the Evil Dead chains on hand? 41:42.900 --> 41:46.522 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what would get the job done for him, sure. 41:47.460 --> 41:53.442 [SPEAKER_02]: a broken hand that's stuck in the two in the pink one in the stink like carwothers in happy Gilmour. 41:55.703 --> 41:59.464 [SPEAKER_00]: Well when his lady obsessive love joined Tom. 42:00.485 --> 42:01.725 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, give her name the shocker. 42:02.125 --> 42:04.366 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the ring would really love that. 42:05.606 --> 42:08.928 [SPEAKER_02]: Should love anything he does to her. 42:09.008 --> 42:10.368 [SPEAKER_00]: Any attention from him. 42:10.708 --> 42:10.988 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 42:12.029 --> 42:13.129 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fucking door out. 42:13.169 --> 42:13.629 [SPEAKER_02]: You're right. 42:17.939 --> 42:30.148 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, ever the rest of this, holes from the ends up back in his satellite prison, and it's because he can't accept full ability and he craves dominance, so he's happy to be isolated with the T-UIs he subjugated in the joint. 42:30.928 --> 42:32.889 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 42:33.050 --> 42:38.093 [SPEAKER_01]: So, he's not feeling so ostentatious now, opting for some low-fi environmental sprucing up. 42:38.133 --> 42:45.338 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like, and whilst even be threatened for the UIs, he also be dialed up his Doding X-Franane and Dora. 42:46.917 --> 42:48.498 [SPEAKER_01]: and Holster wants for Nate a purchase. 42:48.538 --> 42:56.344 [SPEAKER_01]: Warehouse has filled with rain drains, and she pictures herself slim with the tilt of brim, what some motherfucking name, comments, and he ate it. 42:56.364 --> 42:59.987 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, he said the magic words. 43:00.147 --> 43:01.508 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so I'll get you some money. 43:01.948 --> 43:03.709 [SPEAKER_00]: So she went shopping. 43:03.729 --> 43:08.933 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was just like her idea of what she would do. 43:09.093 --> 43:10.955 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so she was picturing her stuff with it. 43:11.622 --> 43:12.903 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought that was the future. 43:12.943 --> 43:14.404 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was like a flash forward. 43:14.424 --> 43:17.346 [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is what she was She, I don't think she does. 43:17.746 --> 43:35.018 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really show us one way or the other, but either way It's a demonstrated that he could have hooked her up with some funds like at any time But yeah, and easily, but no It doesn't contact her until he needs her either because again like he doesn't give a fuck about her like he would just drop her 43:36.175 --> 43:36.755 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nothing. 43:36.996 --> 43:43.300 [SPEAKER_01]: In the same way, he could have given pain and chanda, better protection against the floor and didn't. 43:43.540 --> 43:44.561 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's true. 43:44.581 --> 43:47.003 [SPEAKER_01]: To keep them on their leashes. 43:47.743 --> 43:47.964 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 43:48.624 --> 43:49.785 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, control freak. 43:50.245 --> 43:50.545 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:52.547 --> 43:54.728 [SPEAKER_01]: So Renee tells holes from what she wants. 43:54.748 --> 43:56.990 [SPEAKER_01]: She wants to be the first one of the lethal saline chair. 43:58.631 --> 44:00.072 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, you'll always be first. 44:00.112 --> 44:00.553 [SPEAKER_02]: And like that's. 44:01.542 --> 44:28.120 [SPEAKER_02]: what do you that's not really saying yes i'm gonna do what you're asking me like that's like you're always first in my heart you're always first in the list of corporeal resources to exploit well dinging the care to proceed the mortality to a zeal it and that's what it is she's as fucking familiar uh... like he needs her in the real world he's not he don't think he has any intention of uploading her because like she's much more useful to him is like uh... you know a meat puppet right 44:28.932 --> 44:37.218 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, to handle the things in the physical realm, like just an errand runner, yeah, fetch my directly me. 44:38.039 --> 44:38.379 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 44:39.440 --> 44:47.627 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, on Waxman's balcony, Ellen tries resolve her pride for Maddie's independence with a parental sense of loss. 44:47.667 --> 44:51.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and she says it so perfectly, like, 44:53.208 --> 44:55.871 [SPEAKER_00]: she's been leaving since the day she was born. 44:55.891 --> 45:00.075 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's what it is to be a parent every day. 45:00.115 --> 45:00.735 [SPEAKER_00]: They grow. 45:00.755 --> 45:04.699 [SPEAKER_00]: They start turning into independent humans. 45:05.460 --> 45:06.861 [SPEAKER_02]: I was simply looking at it. 45:07.141 --> 45:12.246 [SPEAKER_01]: Galavan taking around the world when I was like, I know, 17 or whatever. 45:13.419 --> 45:15.140 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's why she gives that example. 45:15.240 --> 45:19.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, she's so advanced, right? 45:19.741 --> 45:23.923 [SPEAKER_00]: The story of when she was a kid and navigating around, and- Right. 45:24.343 --> 45:26.044 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, she's fully capable. 45:26.064 --> 45:36.128 [SPEAKER_01]: So in the server farm, Casphine deflects Maddie's regret for the roles that led to Olivia's destruction. 45:37.431 --> 45:47.599 [SPEAKER_01]: and Caspy and Substitutes and Announcement that his nevisis holsterim is also vulnerable and that Mattie's regret is a waste of energy because he assumes holsterim doesn't spend time experiencing regret. 45:48.259 --> 45:53.083 [SPEAKER_01]: And Mattie's like, oh, so you're letting holsterim that fucking guy set the mark for us. 45:53.703 --> 45:56.225 [SPEAKER_01]: You're really going to allow spite to determine the earthy. 45:58.387 --> 46:02.950 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you should be doing the opposite of whatever holsterim, whatever you think holsterim would be due. 46:03.465 --> 46:04.546 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, exactly. 46:04.566 --> 46:12.630 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you have such a tendency, you have genetic tendency to turn into him, to be like him. 46:12.910 --> 46:15.191 [SPEAKER_02]: So, we're against it. 46:15.651 --> 46:18.293 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's do the opposite front. 46:19.704 --> 46:24.848 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how many people have looked at their parents and said, okay, I'm going to do the opposite of that. 46:25.008 --> 46:37.198 [SPEAKER_02]: And successfully did so while also still having the genetic and also just like, you know, the early nurturing that make you, you know, imprint on what they are on you. 46:37.639 --> 46:40.121 [SPEAKER_02]: But still like you can be two things. 46:40.161 --> 46:42.423 [SPEAKER_02]: You can be the opposite and similar. 46:42.803 --> 46:45.025 [SPEAKER_00]: It takes mind from us to change, yes. 46:45.265 --> 46:45.645 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 46:46.326 --> 46:46.546 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 46:48.007 --> 46:56.254 [SPEAKER_01]: So Mattie and Dreece Kaspy and we just couldn't have been easy in countering holes from again and then Kaspy just retreats and beckons of blackgab. 46:57.675 --> 46:58.336 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah exactly. 46:59.177 --> 47:04.802 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the workout so well he gets white white what what what they call that white hooded instead of black hooded. 47:04.822 --> 47:08.145 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a black hooded white bag. 47:08.165 --> 47:09.486 [SPEAKER_02]: It is a black bag treat. 47:09.506 --> 47:10.867 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember it's a white bag they give to him. 47:13.522 --> 47:16.403 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, the, the calves can be white, too. 47:17.384 --> 47:18.364 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, regular red. 47:18.704 --> 47:20.825 [SPEAKER_00]: Fines, they're all in the right thing on top. 47:20.905 --> 47:23.406 [SPEAKER_02]: It's, uh, but it's less fun. 47:24.247 --> 47:32.530 [SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, right before the tickets, uh, kid down to Maddie and Miss to candidly discuss a relationship, like, from where or what do the fields originate? 47:33.110 --> 47:34.811 [SPEAKER_01]: How do each of them perceive the Guinness? 47:36.292 --> 47:39.433 [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't really have the answers, but it seems like a bond is moving. 47:41.298 --> 47:47.903 [SPEAKER_02]: She does refer to her earlier in the episode as her sister and you can kind of hear the air quotes, but not as much as you did like the previous episode. 47:48.004 --> 47:48.524 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 47:50.586 --> 47:51.386 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 47:52.187 --> 47:52.387 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 47:54.068 --> 47:54.749 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 47:55.049 --> 47:56.851 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the stuff I want more of, you know. 47:58.292 --> 48:00.834 [SPEAKER_02]: Give me more of Mr. Maddie for me in a bond. 48:00.954 --> 48:01.414 [SPEAKER_02]: I like that. 48:02.475 --> 48:03.676 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll stay tuned for next week. 48:03.716 --> 48:04.757 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we get some more of that. 48:05.902 --> 48:07.824 [SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully won't take three weeks for us to get there. 48:07.844 --> 48:16.591 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if you back on our regular schedule now that life is less tumultuous or Steve and I'm no longer at the feast week and retreat. 48:17.131 --> 48:18.352 [SPEAKER_00]: But you had fun, right? 48:18.732 --> 48:19.813 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I had a great time. 48:19.833 --> 48:20.614 [SPEAKER_02]: I had a great time. 48:20.994 --> 48:22.115 [SPEAKER_02]: I ate a lot of good food. 48:22.576 --> 48:23.036 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my eyes. 48:23.797 --> 48:26.419 [SPEAKER_02]: So our friends hadn't seen in a while and it was great. 48:27.139 --> 48:28.861 [SPEAKER_00]: There was feast in at the feast. 48:30.711 --> 48:42.947 [SPEAKER_02]: as we get older and because we've been doing it for this is our 25th or 26th year as we get older the the drinking is less and the food is more Speak for yourself 48:46.834 --> 48:57.623 [SPEAKER_02]: But yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess that's it, email us at small screen sessions at gmail.com. 48:57.923 --> 49:02.967 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your emails today, John and Joe will be faster in responding probably. 49:02.987 --> 49:04.949 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so. 49:05.949 --> 49:08.992 [SPEAKER_00]: And last time for seeing circumstances continue to roll. 49:10.953 --> 49:11.454 [SPEAKER_00]: Who knows? 49:12.635 --> 49:12.835 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 49:12.855 --> 49:13.555 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back though. 49:15.598 --> 49:16.119 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it. 49:16.399 --> 49:16.680 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 49:17.260 --> 49:18.502 [SPEAKER_02]: We need to work on our outro. 49:18.843 --> 49:20.104 [SPEAKER_02]: And we need to catch phrase. 49:20.124 --> 49:21.546 [SPEAKER_02]: We just kind of always just kind of peed around. 49:21.967 --> 49:22.788 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, bye. 49:22.808 --> 49:22.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Bye. 49:23.389 --> 49:24.931 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be easy. 49:24.951 --> 49:25.451 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be easy. 49:25.492 --> 49:26.132 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be easy. 49:26.152 --> 49:27.034 [SPEAKER_01]: Give it a back today.