WEBVTT 00:00.402 --> 00:12.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world, but the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, where we continue to follow the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden now. 00:12.525 --> 00:18.687 [SPEAKER_06]: There's just some of the scenes overnight, a thousands of Americans gathered in some operation Osama bin Laden's death. 00:19.047 --> 00:24.869 [SPEAKER_02]: Former Navy SEAL Roboniel says he has thought about the mission every day since that Mayday in 2020. 00:25.029 --> 00:32.352 [SPEAKER_03]: in multiple conversations you had with Rob O'Neill over the past year and a half, how did you describe that his head kind of exploded? 00:32.432 --> 00:32.772 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 00:33.032 --> 00:37.154 [SPEAKER_05]: I actually hit him three times, so I shot him twice when he was standing and once I was doing it. 00:37.214 --> 00:38.815 [SPEAKER_06]: That is the fucking American man. 00:38.835 --> 00:39.755 [UNKNOWN]: He's the one who got there. 00:40.096 --> 00:43.717 [SPEAKER_05]: We are not going for fame, and we are not going for bravado. 00:44.557 --> 00:54.502 [SPEAKER_05]: We are going for the single mom who dropped her kids off at elementary school on a Tuesday morning, and then 45 minutes later, she jumped toward death out of a skyscraper. 00:55.238 --> 00:58.179 [SPEAKER_00]: your need help, hang up, and then dive your operator. 00:58.679 --> 01:08.864 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm Rob O'Neill, and this is the Operator Podcast. 01:12.065 --> 01:13.626 [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome back to the Operator Podcast. 01:14.506 --> 01:15.266 [SPEAKER_05]: I am your host. 01:16.547 --> 01:18.708 [SPEAKER_05]: Former Seal Team 6 Operator Robert James O'Neill, 01:20.382 --> 01:40.255 [SPEAKER_05]: and the theme of the operator is because we talk to other operators, be it special warfare special forces, military, or just someone operating everyday life, which I'm reminded now happens a lot because I have two new babies, which is awesome, but operating dude watching my wife do her job. 01:41.395 --> 01:43.396 [SPEAKER_05]: is watching mom's work is incredible. 01:43.736 --> 01:51.379 [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many moms just, moms do such a good job that it's one of those things where a lot of people do it, so it's not noticed, but another shout out to moms. 01:51.859 --> 01:55.821 [SPEAKER_05]: It's actually funny because I have friends and mind say, how's the baby sleeping? 01:55.841 --> 02:01.483 [SPEAKER_05]: And I always say, I think I think good, but maybe not at all, because my wife doesn't really wake me up, it's crazy. 02:01.943 --> 02:03.404 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, shout out to mom, you know what? 02:04.224 --> 02:04.905 [SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of, 02:05.765 --> 02:20.771 [SPEAKER_05]: parents as well and sleep deprivation of what not today's episode is going to be fun because I'm bringing back Willard Chesney will Chesney cheese another seal team six operator he's been on before you've heard him before it's always fun he's in studio today which is great 02:21.711 --> 02:38.640 [SPEAKER_05]: just reminiscing about old stuff too and it's fun to talk with him obviously he was on the bin Laden rate obviously he was on the cap and Philips rescue shit like that uh but that was just life we're just doing our jobs today and we happen to be together along with the other team and it's funny to live it but then to reminisce and you're gonna hear it again. 02:39.502 --> 02:53.394 [SPEAKER_05]: uh... today we'll talk about kids we're going to talk about life and all the bush yet but uh... you hear me at all the time and i do have a tendency to interrupt so let me know if i do today i'm going to try my best not to but here right now is an interview with myself 02:54.873 --> 02:56.934 [SPEAKER_05]: And Will Chesney, so enjoy. 02:56.954 --> 02:57.755 [SPEAKER_05]: Here's Cheese and Me. 02:58.415 --> 03:00.757 [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the operator podcasts again, Cheese. 03:01.197 --> 03:03.398 [SPEAKER_05]: Again, we are with Will Chesney. 03:03.838 --> 03:07.461 [SPEAKER_05]: Cheese from CLTM4, CLTM6 with me. 03:07.801 --> 03:09.042 [SPEAKER_05]: Again, you've been on the operator before. 03:09.522 --> 03:10.482 [SPEAKER_05]: This time in person. 03:10.643 --> 03:11.683 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, this is the new studio. 03:11.703 --> 03:12.103 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think? 03:12.504 --> 03:12.904 [SPEAKER_05]: It's awesome. 03:13.084 --> 03:14.064 [SPEAKER_05]: It's all right, it's coming together. 03:14.084 --> 03:17.085 [SPEAKER_05]: We're working on some lighting and stuff, but it's good. 03:17.105 --> 03:20.645 [SPEAKER_05]: We figured out we figured out how to hire important people to put microphones in front of us. 03:20.665 --> 03:20.985 [SPEAKER_05]: That's weird. 03:21.005 --> 03:21.105 [SPEAKER_04]: Cool. 03:21.306 --> 03:22.086 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you put up to? 03:22.726 --> 03:22.966 [SPEAKER_05]: Life. 03:23.246 --> 03:23.426 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 03:23.446 --> 03:25.206 [SPEAKER_05]: Life's been life's fast, man. 03:25.226 --> 03:26.086 [SPEAKER_05]: How's the speaking circuit? 03:26.306 --> 03:27.087 [SPEAKER_04]: It's been great. 03:27.107 --> 03:29.727 [SPEAKER_04]: And picking up more and more especially since the operator click. 03:29.747 --> 03:31.127 [SPEAKER_05]: The operator click has been doing a good job. 03:31.147 --> 03:32.468 [SPEAKER_05]: You've been, you've been hustling for us. 03:32.488 --> 03:32.988 [SPEAKER_05]: That was cool. 03:33.228 --> 03:33.988 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good gig. 03:34.228 --> 03:39.109 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, for people who don't know the operator's collective is a speaking agency we started because 03:40.069 --> 03:44.113 [SPEAKER_05]: Cheese was doing speeches, I was doing speeches, Ray Cash Care, former Navy SEALs doing speeches. 03:44.153 --> 03:49.698 [SPEAKER_05]: We figured if one or two of us was requested, but couldn't make it, might as well get some more guys out there. 03:49.718 --> 03:50.939 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's been a good experience so far. 03:51.019 --> 03:51.379 [SPEAKER_04]: Teamwork. 03:51.499 --> 03:52.921 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying, yeah, yeah. 03:52.941 --> 03:53.461 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, comes together. 03:53.481 --> 03:54.902 [SPEAKER_04]: It's been a great experience. 03:55.123 --> 03:56.644 [SPEAKER_05]: Where'd you, where'd you, where'd you been at school? 03:58.065 --> 03:58.966 [SPEAKER_04]: Why are you asking me questions? 03:58.986 --> 03:59.787 [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know I got blowed up? 04:00.107 --> 04:00.648 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember. 04:00.668 --> 04:01.128 [SPEAKER_04]: That's true. 04:02.109 --> 04:02.830 [SPEAKER_05]: Can we talk about that? 04:03.591 --> 04:04.152 [SPEAKER_04]: You talk about that. 04:04.172 --> 04:05.673 [SPEAKER_05]: Get blood of a spell, it's back up a scoosh. 04:06.294 --> 04:13.381 [SPEAKER_05]: Because you all think what you've been on the pod before, so I don't want to, well, I mean, let's just, let's give everyone a background what you, from Texas, we knew that. 04:13.421 --> 04:14.682 [SPEAKER_05]: From the trailer park in Texas. 04:14.702 --> 04:16.284 [SPEAKER_04]: Group of trailer park, southeast Texas. 04:17.004 --> 04:23.191 [SPEAKER_04]: I had a great family, love my family, but some of the other people in the trailer park weren't exactly the best role models. 04:23.991 --> 04:26.554 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to row a sitting in a, a sit in some ice trailer. 04:26.574 --> 04:27.515 [SPEAKER_04]: Here's one of the older guys. 04:29.753 --> 04:31.054 [SPEAKER_04]: And he wanted to do some crack. 04:31.614 --> 04:32.775 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, you don't know what you're doing. 04:32.795 --> 04:33.976 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what time it day was that. 04:33.996 --> 04:35.337 [SPEAKER_04]: Because she went up here one day. 04:35.537 --> 04:37.178 [SPEAKER_04]: So he said in his bedroom, and I remember what he looks at me. 04:37.198 --> 04:43.402 [SPEAKER_04]: He goes, hey, if I overdose, take that gun that's in the dress and on the top drawer and shoot me in the head. 04:44.123 --> 04:45.664 [SPEAKER_04]: So it looks like I killed myself or something. 04:45.684 --> 04:47.565 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, that's an odd conversation. 04:48.986 --> 04:50.107 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be early high school. 04:51.432 --> 04:53.373 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking, well, this isn't, I don't want to be here. 04:53.393 --> 04:54.333 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to be here. 04:54.353 --> 04:55.314 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's really happened. 04:55.594 --> 04:56.394 [SPEAKER_04]: That's here's the happened. 04:56.414 --> 04:58.495 [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, yeah, so my mom doesn't think I overdosed on heroin. 04:58.515 --> 04:59.496 [SPEAKER_04]: She thinks I got shot. 04:59.536 --> 05:00.676 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 05:00.696 --> 05:02.157 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's crazy. 05:02.197 --> 05:04.338 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, not, not the best role models in the trailer park. 05:04.398 --> 05:09.040 [SPEAKER_04]: Some of the guys were going to hope everybody's doing well these days, but I think some of them were dead. 05:09.180 --> 05:09.900 [SPEAKER_05]: What happened to that dude? 05:10.501 --> 05:10.881 [SPEAKER_05]: No idea. 05:11.501 --> 05:12.281 [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's another one. 05:12.341 --> 05:12.922 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know that. 05:12.942 --> 05:13.782 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even want time. 05:13.802 --> 05:15.103 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know that story. 05:15.123 --> 05:15.203 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow. 05:15.243 --> 05:16.804 [SPEAKER_05]: People who's fucking awkward experience. 05:17.104 --> 05:18.784 [SPEAKER_05]: So you just had his, had his houses in your house. 05:19.185 --> 05:19.605 [SPEAKER_05]: And he's a bus. 05:20.898 --> 05:22.839 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would say it was a buddy. 05:23.559 --> 05:26.200 [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody that we hung, who's one of the older guys in the trailer park that we kind of hung out with. 05:26.240 --> 05:26.420 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 05:27.260 --> 05:27.480 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 05:28.120 --> 05:31.921 [SPEAKER_05]: So, I was hanging out with high school kids in the trailer park, Bryce gets you. 05:31.941 --> 05:32.221 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 05:32.241 --> 05:33.702 [SPEAKER_04]: You got me the bedroom alone. 05:33.842 --> 05:34.642 [SPEAKER_04]: That's how it starts. 05:34.742 --> 05:35.342 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 05:35.362 --> 05:35.602 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 05:35.622 --> 05:36.383 [SPEAKER_05]: That's where they get you. 05:36.703 --> 05:37.543 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna shoot up. 05:37.903 --> 05:38.083 [SPEAKER_05]: What? 05:38.243 --> 05:38.483 [SPEAKER_05]: Did. 05:41.844 --> 05:42.605 [SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna share our needles. 05:42.645 --> 05:44.345 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm new to this. 05:44.385 --> 05:45.305 [SPEAKER_04]: That was my first time. 05:45.385 --> 05:46.286 [SPEAKER_04]: What's up? 05:46.306 --> 05:47.286 [SPEAKER_04]: You should trailer park boys. 05:47.646 --> 05:47.946 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah. 05:48.286 --> 05:48.887 [SPEAKER_04]: What do you think of that? 05:49.047 --> 05:49.767 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a good show. 05:52.432 --> 05:52.632 [SPEAKER_04]: Sure. 05:53.292 --> 06:02.517 [SPEAKER_05]: Because I like to start a watch at Kirk, my NYPD guys had me start watching it and it's great cop humor, which turns out I found that cop humor is a good team guy humor. 06:03.357 --> 06:04.417 [SPEAKER_05]: He said I would like it and I love it. 06:04.437 --> 06:11.080 [SPEAKER_05]: It seems like it's always trying to get semi legitimate business starter, but semi criminal businesses. 06:11.461 --> 06:13.662 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you see any of that other than the heroin? 06:14.102 --> 06:21.065 [SPEAKER_04]: Just a bunch of waste and Tom, like if there's three things to do with you, you want to play basketball, you want to go to the mall, you want to do drugs. 06:21.722 --> 06:22.562 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to do all three. 06:22.662 --> 06:24.603 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really like them all. 06:25.703 --> 06:27.243 [SPEAKER_05]: Why don't you like them all? 06:27.323 --> 06:27.863 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not. 06:27.943 --> 06:29.444 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not. 06:29.464 --> 06:31.204 [SPEAKER_05]: Smoking with you got them. 06:31.224 --> 06:32.004 [SPEAKER_05]: So he's inside. 06:32.484 --> 06:33.664 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a nice trip to the park. 06:33.684 --> 06:34.865 [SPEAKER_04]: We was like, we have double wall. 06:34.885 --> 06:36.165 [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I think it's really outside. 06:36.205 --> 06:36.925 [SPEAKER_04]: It looks great. 06:36.985 --> 06:37.265 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 06:37.345 --> 06:39.266 [SPEAKER_04]: Just not the best environment. 06:39.346 --> 06:40.426 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, there's a clientele. 06:40.686 --> 06:41.606 [SPEAKER_05]: We're a little bit poorish. 06:41.726 --> 06:43.286 [SPEAKER_04]: We weren't super poor, but we were kind of poor. 06:43.306 --> 06:44.807 [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, a little bit of football. 06:44.927 --> 06:45.727 [SPEAKER_04]: But then I get a job. 06:47.173 --> 06:49.215 [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, it's couldn't wait to get out of the trailer park. 06:49.435 --> 06:49.555 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 06:49.575 --> 06:50.536 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want to go to college. 06:50.997 --> 06:51.237 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 06:52.138 --> 06:52.518 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow. 06:52.759 --> 06:53.820 [SPEAKER_05]: So they recruited right there. 06:54.100 --> 06:54.500 [SPEAKER_05]: How do that? 06:54.620 --> 06:55.521 [SPEAKER_05]: I know we've talked about this. 06:55.541 --> 06:56.622 [SPEAKER_05]: I just wanted to. 06:56.642 --> 06:57.183 [SPEAKER_05]: How'd that go down? 06:57.703 --> 06:58.284 [SPEAKER_04]: I love the water. 06:58.744 --> 06:59.345 [SPEAKER_04]: I want to be a seal. 06:59.385 --> 07:10.696 [SPEAKER_04]: That seal training was the best, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 07:11.733 --> 07:12.653 [SPEAKER_05]: And you were a good swimmer though. 07:12.753 --> 07:13.553 [SPEAKER_05]: No, you did not swim. 07:13.613 --> 07:14.233 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm terrible swim. 07:14.273 --> 07:15.394 [SPEAKER_04]: Chair Park didn't have a pool either. 07:15.414 --> 07:17.334 [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of team guys didn't meet. 07:17.594 --> 07:18.654 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't, don't, did not swim. 07:18.734 --> 07:19.434 [SPEAKER_04]: Nice swim at all. 07:19.894 --> 07:23.895 [SPEAKER_04]: They, I failed the swim test and, and boot camp did not do the breaststroke or the sidestroke. 07:24.955 --> 07:25.675 [SPEAKER_04]: I was ruled comfortable. 07:25.815 --> 07:29.776 [SPEAKER_05]: How did you, how did you end up passing it if you, because you don't get time to train? 07:29.976 --> 07:35.357 [SPEAKER_04]: I failed the first test and then they give you the remedial swim test from the, the dive motivators they teach you. 07:35.437 --> 07:35.997 [SPEAKER_04]: Did they do that? 07:36.057 --> 07:36.317 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 07:36.537 --> 07:36.797 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 07:36.957 --> 07:38.978 [SPEAKER_04]: So I learned how to do the sidestroke and buds. 07:40.536 --> 07:42.418 [SPEAKER_05]: But when I don't know, I mean, to pass the initial tests. 07:42.658 --> 07:46.682 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they taught me, so I was like, you know, I was always real comfortable in the water, just wasn't proficient. 07:46.742 --> 07:47.042 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 07:47.162 --> 07:49.665 [SPEAKER_04]: So once they taught me the stroke, I'm really comfortable in life. 07:49.725 --> 07:50.606 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just not proficient. 07:50.686 --> 07:51.306 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. 07:51.346 --> 07:55.490 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I was kind of the same, I remember I did the 50 meter underwater swim buds. 07:55.711 --> 07:55.891 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 07:55.931 --> 07:59.434 [SPEAKER_04]: I came up and the instructor was like, who are these lowest mother fuckers? 07:59.474 --> 07:59.855 [SPEAKER_04]: Really? 07:59.955 --> 08:00.756 [SPEAKER_04]: Ever seen in my life? 08:00.776 --> 08:01.496 [SPEAKER_04]: The 50, on the 50? 08:01.576 --> 08:01.917 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 08:02.337 --> 08:05.839 [SPEAKER_04]: But I worked my breath hold because I knew I wasn't the fastest swimmer in the world. 08:05.979 --> 08:13.843 [SPEAKER_04]: So I got one of those, like, a power lung, and I, I worked that thing, put that thing in my mouth and work it, you know what I'm saying? 08:14.063 --> 08:15.904 [SPEAKER_04]: We're not really, we're like, I should do that. 08:16.805 --> 08:18.045 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was, I streaked in my lungs. 08:18.426 --> 08:19.666 [SPEAKER_04]: I held, I worked on my breath hold. 08:20.046 --> 08:20.207 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 08:20.827 --> 08:22.708 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I just, I knew, I knew where my weaknesses were. 08:23.048 --> 08:28.311 [SPEAKER_05]: My recommendation for people who are listening that want to work on their breath holds do it above water. 08:29.385 --> 08:34.493 [SPEAKER_05]: There are people, we had team guys, Diane Seal seems to be competing with each other on the water to bring us one buddy on me. 08:35.167 --> 08:37.669 [SPEAKER_04]: One of those guys helped me when I got blown up. 08:38.170 --> 08:38.410 [SPEAKER_04]: Really? 08:38.450 --> 08:41.272 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, one of those guys was a medic that helped me. 08:41.492 --> 08:41.773 [SPEAKER_04]: Really? 08:41.833 --> 08:43.434 [SPEAKER_04]: Packed my ass from this when I got blown up. 08:43.574 --> 08:44.555 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, shit, let's go to that. 08:44.595 --> 08:45.076 [SPEAKER_05]: So, okay. 08:45.616 --> 08:49.219 [SPEAKER_05]: We talk about memory stuff like you forget shit because you got blown up the fuck up. 08:49.239 --> 08:50.560 [SPEAKER_05]: I forget shit because I'm gonna last man. 08:51.961 --> 08:54.143 [SPEAKER_05]: The blow up story, because that was the, I have left. 08:54.724 --> 09:00.129 [SPEAKER_05]: That was the first cruise, that cruise, deployment, red squadron did that I wasn't a part of during my time there. 09:01.069 --> 09:02.270 [SPEAKER_05]: I wasn't there for that one. 09:02.290 --> 09:06.454 [SPEAKER_05]: Can you talk to what do you what do you remember from that miss so this is after the bin Laden rate? 09:07.275 --> 09:09.457 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so can you go to that mission? 09:10.398 --> 09:18.565 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'd stop being a dog handler and then I was brought back to Be a dog handler one more time for the big mission one more time one more time. 09:18.605 --> 09:21.147 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude Cairo was pretty dope He made sure you were on that mission. 09:21.347 --> 09:22.729 [SPEAKER_04]: That was the only reason I was on that mission. 09:22.749 --> 09:23.129 [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever. 09:23.149 --> 09:24.090 [SPEAKER_05]: That's still fucking cool 09:25.080 --> 09:28.002 [SPEAKER_04]: That oval out to that dog is the only reason I was chosen for that mission. 09:28.163 --> 09:29.464 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm no stellar operator. 09:29.684 --> 09:30.124 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? 09:30.144 --> 09:31.065 [SPEAKER_04]: I got to keep up with you guys. 09:31.625 --> 09:31.946 [SPEAKER_04]: It was hard. 09:31.966 --> 09:36.189 [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of damn good operators talking about compared to comparatively to everybody. 09:36.449 --> 09:37.810 [SPEAKER_04]: You got to fucking keep up. 09:37.830 --> 09:38.391 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's true. 09:38.751 --> 09:38.891 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. 09:39.331 --> 09:44.616 [SPEAKER_04]: So Cairo is the only reason I was on that mission and that was my last who raw. 09:44.756 --> 09:48.559 [SPEAKER_04]: We ended on a good note and then I went back to being an assaulter and I was super excited to be an assaulter again. 09:49.460 --> 09:51.461 [SPEAKER_04]: Cairo was still in the team because he was such a good dog. 09:51.481 --> 09:52.422 [SPEAKER_04]: He was going to be a spare dog. 09:52.542 --> 09:53.583 [SPEAKER_04]: So he was always going to be around. 09:55.117 --> 10:00.281 [SPEAKER_04]: more of the master dorms is going to take good care of him with all the others guys treat their dogs but he was in good hands. 10:01.201 --> 10:01.702 [SPEAKER_05]: Cairo. 10:02.442 --> 10:02.842 [SPEAKER_05]: Good boy. 10:02.862 --> 10:03.523 [SPEAKER_05]: He's a good boy. 10:03.543 --> 10:04.464 [SPEAKER_05]: I've just pictured my now. 10:04.484 --> 10:07.586 [SPEAKER_05]: You can see San Antonio River walk Cairo on the bed. 10:07.606 --> 10:10.508 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to read it other than booze and we're planning something. 10:11.088 --> 10:11.869 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, he was good ever. 10:12.269 --> 10:13.510 [SPEAKER_04]: Except for that yuck, mouth, breath. 10:13.987 --> 10:19.130 [SPEAKER_05]: He had some, I was just going to say, I was thinking that Sticky has no tooth having a fucking dog, but I didn't want to say it. 10:19.290 --> 10:20.310 [SPEAKER_04]: Perry Donald disease. 10:20.330 --> 10:21.211 [SPEAKER_05]: You've got to rest his soul. 10:21.231 --> 10:21.571 [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't. 10:21.591 --> 10:23.292 [SPEAKER_05]: What was the, I think, Perry Donald disease? 10:23.392 --> 10:24.053 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's right. 10:24.213 --> 10:30.536 [SPEAKER_05]: Because there was shit going around that we had in sort of the $15,000 titanium set of teeth. 10:30.556 --> 10:30.956 [SPEAKER_05]: That was all right. 10:30.976 --> 10:31.357 [SPEAKER_05]: I read that. 10:31.417 --> 10:32.157 [SPEAKER_05]: It had to be true. 10:32.197 --> 10:32.777 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right. 10:32.837 --> 10:34.778 [SPEAKER_04]: Everything has a lot of history on the interwebs. 10:34.858 --> 10:35.379 [SPEAKER_04]: Everything is true. 10:35.399 --> 10:36.499 [SPEAKER_05]: The world's white, but ultra. 10:36.840 --> 10:39.721 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he had six root canals right before I got him retired. 10:40.161 --> 10:41.282 [SPEAKER_04]: He pulled 16th or something. 10:42.468 --> 10:44.309 [SPEAKER_05]: Do they put them, they gotta put them sleeping. 10:44.329 --> 10:45.049 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, this is stupid question. 10:45.069 --> 10:48.050 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he used to go over the vet office and the vet tech would let me watch. 10:48.830 --> 10:51.791 [SPEAKER_04]: Just do normal dental stuff along, it's not that cool. 10:52.471 --> 10:56.632 [SPEAKER_05]: Kyron strikes me as kind of dog, though if you just told him, hey, we're gonna do dental shit, he could say a wig and let you do it. 10:57.172 --> 10:57.892 [SPEAKER_05]: He was a good boy, man. 10:57.912 --> 10:58.432 [SPEAKER_05]: He geeking. 10:58.652 --> 11:00.933 [SPEAKER_05]: He could turn it off and on like, no other dog. 11:00.953 --> 11:03.194 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, not that I've seen like no other dog. 11:03.434 --> 11:04.614 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not no ordinary dog. 11:05.592 --> 11:17.640 [SPEAKER_04]: We had some very good dogs stuck around for a long time because it was plug and play Some of the dogs like I mean come on think about Yari or no No, that was a lunatic Renzo 11:18.885 --> 11:19.605 [SPEAKER_05]: He almost killed me. 11:19.625 --> 11:20.446 [SPEAKER_05]: We were sitting, that was in Sharona. 11:20.466 --> 11:21.026 [SPEAKER_05]: Sharona, Sharona is a song. 11:21.046 --> 11:21.206 [SPEAKER_05]: Sharona. 11:21.226 --> 11:23.708 [SPEAKER_05]: And we were watching, by the bar in the main area, we were, he had a muzzle on and he, we, Cairo's good, he sits with us. 11:23.728 --> 11:24.208 [SPEAKER_05]: What was the name again? 11:24.228 --> 11:37.795 [SPEAKER_05]: Rens are hands, hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are hands are 11:38.175 --> 11:39.156 [SPEAKER_05]: No, he was sitting there with a muzzle. 11:39.176 --> 11:40.116 [SPEAKER_05]: He's he's challenging me. 11:40.156 --> 11:41.297 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, what do you and he hit me? 11:41.357 --> 11:42.357 [SPEAKER_05]: He was going to bite. 11:43.017 --> 11:44.138 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't touch that dog. 11:44.278 --> 11:44.998 [SPEAKER_04]: So like what is it? 11:45.018 --> 11:45.798 [SPEAKER_04]: Some dog like Hiro? 11:45.838 --> 11:46.119 [SPEAKER_04]: It's cool. 11:46.139 --> 11:47.019 [SPEAKER_04]: We can chill on the couch. 11:47.159 --> 11:48.300 [SPEAKER_04]: Always treat him like a load of weapon. 11:48.320 --> 11:48.860 [SPEAKER_04]: You never know. 11:49.200 --> 11:49.780 [SPEAKER_04]: You never know. 11:50.120 --> 11:50.981 [SPEAKER_04]: He'd kind of do bite you. 11:51.521 --> 11:52.801 [SPEAKER_04]: You kind of like, you did your calf. 11:52.942 --> 11:54.402 [SPEAKER_04]: He did step on his tail twice. 11:54.422 --> 11:55.203 [SPEAKER_04]: Then he hit you a little. 11:55.223 --> 11:55.763 [SPEAKER_04]: You told him to deserve it. 11:55.823 --> 11:56.503 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a lovinip. 11:56.523 --> 11:56.983 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a lovinip. 11:57.383 --> 11:57.824 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a lovinip. 11:57.844 --> 11:58.544 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a lovinip. 11:58.884 --> 11:59.424 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a lovinip. 11:59.484 --> 12:03.006 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a spike bit fill on our first deployment. 12:04.315 --> 12:05.275 [SPEAKER_05]: Spike was a good boy. 12:05.295 --> 12:06.496 [SPEAKER_05]: I heard, I wasn't. 12:06.516 --> 12:08.777 [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't meet Spike, so Spike was Jimmy's hatches dog. 12:08.817 --> 12:10.078 [SPEAKER_05]: And Spike was the original. 12:10.438 --> 12:11.078 [SPEAKER_05]: He was OG. 12:11.098 --> 12:12.158 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 12:12.178 --> 12:17.461 [SPEAKER_05]: And when we are first trip to Iraq, we went to Alessad, Spike was there. 12:18.361 --> 12:26.485 [SPEAKER_05]: Me and a couple of the dudes were in charge of battlefield interrogation, and we had no training whatsoever, and where we grabbed this dude. 12:27.876 --> 12:33.781 [SPEAKER_05]: 18-year-old Iraqi, who obviously we assume is al-Qaeda, we're in a room with him, everyone's yelling in English out of him. 12:33.801 --> 12:34.862 [SPEAKER_05]: He has no idea what's happened. 12:34.882 --> 12:36.443 [SPEAKER_05]: Spike's going nuts, and he bites Phil. 12:37.004 --> 12:39.486 [SPEAKER_05]: Phil looks as Spike goes, like that. 12:39.626 --> 12:40.527 [SPEAKER_05]: And then they take him out. 12:40.587 --> 12:43.669 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, poor Iraqis, he's like, oh my god, they let the dogs bite themselves. 12:43.869 --> 12:44.390 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 12:44.410 --> 12:45.431 [SPEAKER_04]: I think what we're gonna do to you. 12:45.491 --> 12:45.911 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 12:46.812 --> 12:47.753 [SPEAKER_05]: So we had no fucking clue. 12:47.773 --> 12:48.513 [SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna do it on that one. 12:48.533 --> 12:49.454 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Spike was a good boy. 12:49.494 --> 12:50.475 [SPEAKER_05]: How did I get on Spike? 12:51.707 --> 12:59.189 [SPEAKER_04]: Talk about Ranzo how crazy he was yeah some of the dogs have the switch can turn on turn off auto auto is a great dog. 12:59.209 --> 12:59.849 [SPEAKER_04]: He's talking bites. 13:00.269 --> 13:01.469 [SPEAKER_04]: He went so many bites. 13:02.069 --> 13:02.669 [SPEAKER_04]: So many saves. 13:03.029 --> 13:04.050 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, dog. 13:04.150 --> 13:04.450 [SPEAKER_05]: He did. 13:04.570 --> 13:06.930 [SPEAKER_05]: He was he was good He and in Cairo the best dogs. 13:06.950 --> 13:09.491 [SPEAKER_05]: We had Auto is a fucking boss of your fucking dog. 13:09.511 --> 13:14.352 [SPEAKER_04]: I remember I pushed him off the couch like just give him a little shove a little get a little too close and he starts doing that 13:16.784 --> 13:23.106 [SPEAKER_05]: because he was such a good dog, but he's also in part of the, he explained how that works with the, the working dog. 13:23.126 --> 13:24.207 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's been a squatter. 13:24.247 --> 13:25.307 [SPEAKER_04]: He's just going to be the alpha. 13:25.607 --> 13:28.088 [SPEAKER_04]: And let him get a little bit too much of that alpha status. 13:28.408 --> 13:29.609 [SPEAKER_04]: And he doesn't eat, he's going to give it up. 13:30.109 --> 13:30.969 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll fight you forward. 13:30.989 --> 13:32.910 [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to fucking buy my face off, bite me forward. 13:33.270 --> 13:33.950 [SPEAKER_05]: He was ready to do that. 13:34.050 --> 13:34.731 [SPEAKER_04]: And he was chill. 13:34.951 --> 13:35.571 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was chill. 13:35.591 --> 13:36.411 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, so chill. 13:36.451 --> 13:37.111 [SPEAKER_04]: He was one of the dogs. 13:37.131 --> 13:37.592 [SPEAKER_04]: He had the switch. 13:37.612 --> 13:38.232 [SPEAKER_04]: He could turn it off. 13:38.392 --> 13:42.373 [SPEAKER_04]: But I let him get to a certain level where it's I fucked up and his handler at the time. 13:42.994 --> 13:43.534 [SPEAKER_04]: And we'll say his name. 13:43.554 --> 13:43.874 [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know him? 13:43.894 --> 13:52.217 [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 13:53.153 --> 13:53.874 [SPEAKER_04]: So don't let him get there. 13:54.094 --> 13:57.196 [SPEAKER_05]: But Renzo was, was, was, was he there when that happened? 13:57.396 --> 13:58.477 [SPEAKER_04]: Or yeah, I think he had to call him off. 13:58.777 --> 14:01.339 [SPEAKER_05]: And so okay, because now can you explain the relationship? 14:01.359 --> 14:04.161 [SPEAKER_05]: The handler, the shooters and the dog, the uncles, the dad, all that shit. 14:04.181 --> 14:06.103 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the handers of the dad, everybody else are the uncles. 14:06.263 --> 14:07.143 [SPEAKER_04]: One big happy family. 14:07.344 --> 14:08.745 [SPEAKER_05]: And, but they'll compete with the uncles. 14:09.685 --> 14:10.666 [SPEAKER_05]: Are they going to compete with that, too? 14:10.726 --> 14:11.487 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, how's that? 14:11.507 --> 14:11.887 [SPEAKER_04]: Some dogs. 14:12.247 --> 14:13.608 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're mall malls, man. 14:13.628 --> 14:14.589 [SPEAKER_04]: You gotta keep, keep them in check. 14:14.609 --> 14:15.109 [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone's small. 14:15.650 --> 14:16.030 [SPEAKER_05]: I heard it. 14:16.230 --> 14:17.491 [SPEAKER_05]: I, you've probably heard everything about me. 14:17.651 --> 14:20.473 [SPEAKER_05]: I was, I had someone the other day recently say, 14:23.680 --> 14:25.541 [SPEAKER_04]: It was like to, oh, it's like a shepherd. 14:25.681 --> 14:26.781 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it doesn't know that it's malignal. 14:26.821 --> 14:28.722 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a German shepherd, they're just smaller. 14:28.762 --> 14:32.243 [SPEAKER_04]: So like there's nothing on the 100 pound German shepherd, 120 pound German shepherd. 14:32.263 --> 14:33.944 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a long forcement, long hair. 14:33.964 --> 14:35.504 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it launched. 14:35.524 --> 14:36.084 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a big dog. 14:36.104 --> 14:37.485 [SPEAKER_04]: You got to deal with rust. 14:37.525 --> 14:38.285 [SPEAKER_04]: We got to walk in. 14:38.305 --> 14:39.125 [SPEAKER_04]: We got a fast rope. 14:39.146 --> 14:39.806 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, skydive. 14:39.846 --> 14:41.266 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is going to hoist this doll up. 14:41.326 --> 14:46.768 [SPEAKER_04]: So you can give me that shepherd, or you can give me that little 60 pound Velasa wrapper on cocaine and steroids. 14:47.008 --> 14:48.749 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll take that in the front of the left there. 14:48.869 --> 14:49.269 [SPEAKER_04]: Give it to me. 14:50.029 --> 14:50.550 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm in the way. 14:50.590 --> 14:51.330 [SPEAKER_04]: It's no killer, buddy. 14:52.972 --> 14:53.552 [SPEAKER_04]: They don't fuck around. 14:53.652 --> 14:59.897 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I think that they've gotten famous and an issue people are having is they're getting mountain laws. 15:00.497 --> 15:02.679 [SPEAKER_05]: You need a couple acres and a lot of time, don't you? 15:03.443 --> 15:03.723 [SPEAKER_04]: not. 15:04.383 --> 15:05.784 [SPEAKER_04]: Again, message is quite a bit. 15:06.104 --> 15:06.704 [SPEAKER_04]: Can we read home? 15:06.724 --> 15:07.304 [SPEAKER_04]: Can we read home? 15:07.324 --> 15:08.064 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's a, it's a shame. 15:08.084 --> 15:09.765 [SPEAKER_04]: It's one of the bad things about writing the book. 15:09.785 --> 15:10.965 [SPEAKER_04]: Because everybody wants the cool dog. 15:10.985 --> 15:11.846 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, no, what you get it. 15:11.866 --> 15:12.486 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get the shepherd. 15:12.506 --> 15:13.886 [SPEAKER_05]: I, what would you suggest instead? 15:13.906 --> 15:15.127 [SPEAKER_05]: Like it was on the really what's a mile a while. 15:15.147 --> 15:15.987 [SPEAKER_05]: What would you suggest? 15:16.047 --> 15:19.288 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if you had the time to put in the work, then yeah, get the dog. 15:19.308 --> 15:21.068 [SPEAKER_04]: But know what you're getting into do research. 15:21.308 --> 15:22.309 [SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you're in the property. 15:22.929 --> 15:26.110 [SPEAKER_04]: If to stimulate them, you have exercise, then not just mentally, but physically. 15:26.630 --> 15:28.891 [SPEAKER_04]: And if you can do that, they're a fucking great tool. 15:29.331 --> 15:30.231 [SPEAKER_04]: They're a great tool. 15:30.351 --> 15:32.712 [SPEAKER_04]: If you put in the work up front, 15:34.252 --> 15:35.873 [SPEAKER_04]: You can pay somebody of train yourself. 15:36.473 --> 15:41.254 [SPEAKER_04]: You can pay somebody two weeks a month, six weeks to train your dog and you can get a good base. 15:41.414 --> 15:48.016 [SPEAKER_04]: But you still have to have knowledge on how to maintain that base because it can always still go to shit. 15:48.056 --> 15:51.917 [SPEAKER_04]: No matter how good of a dog you get, this never stops. 15:52.830 --> 15:58.413 [SPEAKER_04]: But if you don't have the time, it just can be a good tool if you have the time and you're willing to put in the work. 15:59.094 --> 16:06.178 [SPEAKER_04]: And if not, we'll go ahead and buy that mile and wall and let them lose in your little apartment and go to work and see what happens when you get back from work. 16:06.198 --> 16:09.980 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope I'll be at your neighbor's house because you ate through the drywall. 16:10.481 --> 16:16.745 [SPEAKER_05]: Ha ha ha, ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, 16:17.605 --> 16:21.448 [SPEAKER_05]: But isn't there certain things to know as far as looking in the eye showing your teeth, talking? 16:21.528 --> 16:23.009 [SPEAKER_05]: What kind of stuff should you know of? 16:23.029 --> 16:25.911 [SPEAKER_05]: Say, say you're around a dog in an airport that just do not pet. 16:25.971 --> 16:27.793 [SPEAKER_05]: Is there something you shouldn't, I mean, other than not pet them? 16:27.813 --> 16:29.354 [SPEAKER_05]: Or is that just a deterrent? 16:29.754 --> 16:30.295 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't fuck with you. 16:30.315 --> 16:31.956 [SPEAKER_04]: Have you looked at him in the eyes of challenging him? 16:32.056 --> 16:33.097 [SPEAKER_04]: So it just is that what it is? 16:33.117 --> 16:37.380 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I did that with some puppies that I saw a long time ago, I sold to a good buddy of mine's dad. 16:38.461 --> 16:39.802 [SPEAKER_04]: Dog was in super old and it was 16:41.480 --> 16:41.980 [SPEAKER_04]: Super aggressive. 16:42.000 --> 16:42.441 [SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty chill. 16:42.461 --> 16:49.284 [SPEAKER_04]: It was kind of chill and it was a safe distance away and I was like when we just see and I looked at the eyes And they just made eye contact for a minute sure shit. 16:49.464 --> 16:50.344 [SPEAKER_04]: It started to come at me. 16:50.665 --> 16:54.827 [SPEAKER_04]: Really a puppy No, it was a puppy puppy, but it was it was getting a little bit old. 16:54.847 --> 16:57.408 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a juvenile But he knows it was looking at the eyes. 16:57.448 --> 16:57.968 [SPEAKER_04]: Is there a new? 16:58.068 --> 16:59.069 [SPEAKER_04]: I should not be doing this. 16:59.109 --> 17:03.231 [SPEAKER_04]: I do the testing the water's pushing the button sure shit Don't play that game. 17:03.411 --> 17:03.491 [SPEAKER_05]: No 17:04.011 --> 17:05.954 [SPEAKER_05]: And what about teeth if you smile on me? 17:05.994 --> 17:07.336 [SPEAKER_05]: Is that they care about our teeth or not? 17:07.356 --> 17:08.317 [SPEAKER_04]: Just I can't. 17:08.337 --> 17:10.199 [SPEAKER_04]: It was the eye contact that did it on one. 17:10.219 --> 17:11.782 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, the body language contact. 17:12.322 --> 17:12.643 [SPEAKER_04]: For sure. 17:13.644 --> 17:16.167 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's that's what it's on. 17:16.247 --> 17:19.091 [SPEAKER_04]: As long as you give some of the dogs direction, like with the rinsal, we go back to him. 17:19.552 --> 17:20.473 [SPEAKER_04]: I never touch that dog. 17:22.000 --> 17:24.381 [SPEAKER_04]: Not even when he walked by, do I give him a nice little pet? 17:24.441 --> 17:33.583 [SPEAKER_04]: I just never trusted him, but on Target, if that dog has a job, I can pick that dog up by the vest and give him direction and give him a command that dog is a fucking badass. 17:33.944 --> 17:37.144 [SPEAKER_04]: He was so badass, we had to get rid of him because he was so badass. 17:38.365 --> 17:39.725 [SPEAKER_04]: On Target, he wouldn't come back. 17:40.505 --> 17:41.166 [SPEAKER_04]: He couldn't recall. 17:41.886 --> 17:46.147 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was a, yeah, the rental was an issue, but he was going to have dying. 17:46.827 --> 17:49.168 [SPEAKER_05]: He was going to kill, but he would save someone like his fearless. 17:49.308 --> 17:49.468 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 17:49.688 --> 17:51.989 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, that was something we just look in him in the eyes. 17:52.009 --> 17:52.629 [SPEAKER_05]: He went away. 17:52.649 --> 17:53.790 [SPEAKER_05]: That guy was a lunatic. 17:53.810 --> 17:54.470 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a bad idea. 17:54.750 --> 17:55.130 [SPEAKER_05]: I want. 17:55.150 --> 17:55.370 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 17:55.530 --> 17:55.810 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 17:55.830 --> 17:56.551 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't look him in the eyes. 17:56.611 --> 17:57.611 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't touch him when he goes by. 17:57.671 --> 17:59.792 [SPEAKER_04]: So there's a little like the next, oh, we got Yari. 17:59.952 --> 18:00.332 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 18:00.372 --> 18:00.592 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 18:01.012 --> 18:02.073 [SPEAKER_04]: But I would never look him in the eyes. 18:02.093 --> 18:05.154 [SPEAKER_04]: I would never go up to him and grab him by his face and say, hey, buddy, how are you doing? 18:05.174 --> 18:07.735 [SPEAKER_05]: No, we had one you could Bronco. 18:08.515 --> 18:10.716 [SPEAKER_05]: And he was kind of a, he was just a good bull. 18:10.756 --> 18:11.216 [SPEAKER_05]: He's a good dog. 18:11.276 --> 18:11.856 [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't want by you. 18:12.216 --> 18:12.717 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 18:12.777 --> 18:13.477 [SPEAKER_05]: We had a sin of horror. 18:14.921 --> 18:20.943 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I was a bad handler for him because I had Bronco after kind of got shot for a minute and we just were not a good fit. 18:20.963 --> 18:21.303 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 18:21.603 --> 18:27.125 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I don't think Bronco was I got a I got a picture of him. 18:27.245 --> 18:28.606 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll release it after this podcast. 18:28.626 --> 18:29.286 [SPEAKER_05]: We had a picture of him. 18:29.306 --> 18:33.167 [SPEAKER_05]: He got him in headgear and boxing gloves because we spilled the drink and Jay bad during it. 18:33.227 --> 18:39.449 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a storm winter and no one was working and so we were booze and we dropped when he drank it up and then Bronco was chill with boys again. 18:39.469 --> 18:41.130 [SPEAKER_05]: He's a good boy, but he's not a killer. 18:41.972 --> 18:44.293 [SPEAKER_04]: I had issues with the Montage, but I think that was my fault. 18:44.313 --> 18:44.593 [SPEAKER_05]: Like what? 18:45.354 --> 18:46.634 [SPEAKER_04]: Just couldn't get him to engage. 18:46.654 --> 18:48.535 [SPEAKER_04]: It was their fault. 18:48.595 --> 18:49.856 [SPEAKER_05]: The dog didn't want him to engage. 18:50.316 --> 18:52.257 [SPEAKER_04]: He stuck around working and up dying overseas. 18:52.737 --> 18:53.858 [SPEAKER_04]: Did he die overseas? 18:54.618 --> 18:55.118 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know that. 18:55.478 --> 18:55.618 [SPEAKER_04]: No. 18:56.439 --> 18:58.220 [SPEAKER_04]: So they worked on the different squadron for a while. 18:58.240 --> 18:59.540 [SPEAKER_05]: But he ended up working well? 19:00.261 --> 19:02.402 [SPEAKER_04]: As far as I know, he died. 19:02.422 --> 19:05.763 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, usually when dogs die, they save about six years. 19:06.023 --> 19:06.184 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 19:06.684 --> 19:10.365 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so I can't go into that story because I wasn't there, obviously. 19:12.681 --> 19:14.982 [SPEAKER_05]: But nowadays, you don't need to be there to know everything that happened on the story. 19:16.283 --> 19:16.823 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, hey. 19:18.424 --> 19:23.367 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, the dogs are incredible and how did that work out now? 19:23.407 --> 19:28.530 [SPEAKER_05]: Because the relationship with seals, we had seals mainly running dogs. 19:29.970 --> 19:32.752 [SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of times, green team graduates seals. 19:32.772 --> 19:34.953 [SPEAKER_05]: So the way seals can you explain how to see it? 19:34.973 --> 19:38.095 [SPEAKER_05]: So seals teams, green team, second-tox shooter. 19:43.245 --> 19:46.466 [SPEAKER_05]: If that make any sense, what you said, if you go through green team, which is selection, then you get to the second deck. 19:46.486 --> 19:50.968 [SPEAKER_04]: You pass selection, you were now in the squadron, actually passed selection. 19:50.988 --> 19:52.729 [SPEAKER_04]: There's only so many of those guys are going to be handlers. 19:52.869 --> 19:53.309 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 19:53.529 --> 19:57.571 [SPEAKER_04]: So then you would have other seals come from other commands that were not green team. 19:57.611 --> 19:58.571 [SPEAKER_04]: Past green team. 19:58.711 --> 19:59.752 [SPEAKER_04]: And they would also be handlers. 19:59.772 --> 20:02.233 [SPEAKER_04]: And then we would pick up master at arms. 20:02.433 --> 20:02.533 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 20:02.553 --> 20:04.694 [SPEAKER_04]: And they would go through their selection process as well. 20:05.114 --> 20:05.794 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a good master. 20:05.934 --> 20:07.294 [SPEAKER_05]: We have some really good master's arms. 20:07.514 --> 20:08.615 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm a fucking shooter. 20:08.795 --> 20:10.295 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a dog hand racer. 20:10.435 --> 20:14.696 [SPEAKER_04]: So I got the great dog Cairo because I'm a fucking shooter. 20:14.776 --> 20:15.897 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what I'm doing. 20:15.917 --> 20:17.157 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a dog trainer. 20:17.177 --> 20:18.097 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a dog handler. 20:18.117 --> 20:18.357 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 20:19.558 --> 20:21.098 [SPEAKER_04]: Mastered arms are dog trainers. 20:21.118 --> 20:21.878 [SPEAKER_04]: They're dog handlers. 20:21.938 --> 20:24.859 [SPEAKER_04]: So they would get the more problematic dogs because they can handle most dogs. 20:25.539 --> 20:28.840 [SPEAKER_05]: Those should be the guys with the dogs on target. 20:29.240 --> 20:31.381 [SPEAKER_05]: We can train up a master's arms to where we need. 20:31.441 --> 20:32.321 [SPEAKER_05]: We can train up a 20:33.635 --> 20:34.396 [SPEAKER_05]: vanilla seal. 20:34.436 --> 20:37.918 [SPEAKER_05]: I just said that because it's so fucking ridiculous. 20:38.238 --> 20:44.822 [SPEAKER_05]: That's uh for those of the that who don't know uh vanilla side is uh it's a it's a it's a racist turn for a seal. 20:45.503 --> 20:46.303 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a great time. 20:46.563 --> 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of the motherfucking desert. 24:28.328 --> 24:32.512 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but all this open space on the one fucking group of trees So we land away. 24:32.612 --> 24:33.153 [SPEAKER_05]: What did they do? 24:34.153 --> 24:35.814 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they jumped into the trees. 24:35.834 --> 24:39.595 [SPEAKER_04]: We landed away and made it up to the, there was this little low rock wall. 24:39.615 --> 24:46.558 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just perfect, you know, maybe 50 yards away from the tree line, escalation of force, escalation of forces. 24:46.598 --> 24:48.378 [SPEAKER_04]: You asked the bad guys to come out nicely. 24:48.398 --> 24:50.239 [SPEAKER_04]: They're fucking bad guys, so they're not going to listen. 24:50.279 --> 24:52.160 [SPEAKER_04]: And then you ask them to leave, well, they never listen. 24:52.720 --> 24:57.242 [SPEAKER_04]: So you escalate from there, eventually the call was made from the team leader, I was, 24:58.143 --> 25:04.228 [SPEAKER_04]: on the right hand side, so the dogs use their nose because they're all factory since they're looking amazing, so they can smell bad guys. 25:05.228 --> 25:13.335 [SPEAKER_04]: Positioned myself and near the team leader where he could use the note as the win to his advantage, eventually the call was sinning Cairo. 25:13.635 --> 25:15.977 [SPEAKER_04]: So cinnamon, he's using the win cone. 25:17.098 --> 25:18.358 [SPEAKER_04]: He jumps into the vegetation. 25:18.378 --> 25:20.579 [SPEAKER_04]: I had a strobe on him, but he disappears pretty quick. 25:20.619 --> 25:27.001 [SPEAKER_04]: He was pretty thick veg, and so I'm making the wind was blowing from left to right, so I'm all the way on the right hand side. 25:27.741 --> 25:33.383 [SPEAKER_04]: I start making my way down to the left, and I'm looking for him, and I'm looking for him, and then you hear distinct gunfire. 25:33.803 --> 25:35.603 [SPEAKER_04]: There are gunfire sounds a little bit different. 25:35.643 --> 25:38.324 [SPEAKER_04]: A lot are gunfire, so I know what the fuck's going on. 25:40.323 --> 25:44.748 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we had just lost RIMCO weeks before. 25:44.768 --> 25:45.469 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we did. 25:45.689 --> 25:48.012 [SPEAKER_04]: My buddy Mike too sought lost his dog. 25:48.032 --> 25:48.752 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. 25:49.113 --> 25:50.374 [SPEAKER_04]: Saving Jimmy Hatch's life. 25:50.614 --> 25:53.137 [SPEAKER_04]: And if you want to go read about that, that's a great story. 25:53.418 --> 25:57.342 [SPEAKER_04]: I think he might be the only dog with a silver star, RIMCO. 25:58.520 --> 26:00.361 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought Kyron got we wrote it. 26:00.381 --> 26:03.662 [SPEAKER_04]: We wrote him up for never he never got put and we're busy We didn't get him. 26:03.902 --> 26:04.362 [SPEAKER_04]: He never got him. 26:04.382 --> 26:04.682 [SPEAKER_05]: Too busy. 26:04.722 --> 26:05.783 [SPEAKER_04]: Kelant we're too busy. 26:05.923 --> 26:06.823 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we wrote him up. 26:07.143 --> 26:08.503 [SPEAKER_05]: No, he's written up for two silver stars. 26:08.804 --> 26:09.764 [SPEAKER_04]: He never officially got him. 26:09.824 --> 26:10.384 [SPEAKER_05]: That's bullshit. 26:10.484 --> 26:11.064 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's all good. 26:11.604 --> 26:12.025 [SPEAKER_04]: He got a book. 26:12.665 --> 26:13.505 [SPEAKER_04]: He got a book out of the damn. 26:13.525 --> 26:13.945 [SPEAKER_04]: He got a book. 26:14.025 --> 26:14.585 [SPEAKER_04]: The guys loved him. 26:14.666 --> 26:14.926 [SPEAKER_04]: We had it. 26:14.946 --> 26:15.626 [SPEAKER_04]: We get the work. 26:15.786 --> 26:16.406 [SPEAKER_05]: Kyron was a man. 26:16.866 --> 26:20.407 [SPEAKER_04]: But he gets we got hit and we just lost Remco. 26:21.648 --> 26:22.628 [SPEAKER_04]: And we know what we know it's going on. 26:22.648 --> 26:23.268 [SPEAKER_04]: Here's the gunfire. 26:23.288 --> 26:26.650 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, shit, the first dog I ever got a bite with that was axe. 26:26.670 --> 26:27.710 [SPEAKER_04]: You've been shot through his head. 26:28.346 --> 26:28.766 [SPEAKER_04]: Relax. 26:28.786 --> 26:29.026 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 26:29.566 --> 26:32.347 [SPEAKER_04]: He can still work and he has shot through his fucking face. 26:33.087 --> 26:34.627 [SPEAKER_04]: So anyways, no, it's going on. 26:34.788 --> 26:35.888 [SPEAKER_04]: He's always getting shot all the time. 26:36.628 --> 26:37.828 [SPEAKER_05]: They're saving lives. 26:37.948 --> 26:43.210 [SPEAKER_05]: I get the commander's the memorial that up to the right is the dog memorial. 26:43.330 --> 26:43.770 [SPEAKER_05]: Right next. 26:43.790 --> 26:43.950 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 26:44.010 --> 26:44.170 [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. 26:44.830 --> 26:50.071 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why I remember being in the team room once say, he raised your hand with dogs every saved your life every single person. 26:50.111 --> 26:52.192 [SPEAKER_04]: And then guys start telling stories. 26:52.392 --> 26:52.592 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 26:53.012 --> 26:53.612 [SPEAKER_04]: Multiple stories. 26:54.412 --> 26:54.672 [SPEAKER_04]: Crazy. 26:55.053 --> 27:10.187 [SPEAKER_05]: The Vader story I heard was awesome when the the blue squad, and I think did a hit with Vader and The commander's comments all it's said was Vader needs a cape That was dragging more the fuckers out of the drain his dishes and pull him out of trees and Fucking doing it up. 27:10.227 --> 27:14.251 [SPEAKER_04]: I remember when the Falco got some of that problems with Falco at first Right before he died. 27:14.351 --> 27:15.092 [SPEAKER_04]: We like oh, man. 27:15.112 --> 27:18.455 [SPEAKER_04]: He's not he's not gonna make you my not he wasn't engaged in he was going into a bark and hold 27:19.196 --> 27:21.258 [SPEAKER_04]: Going to a barking hole overseas is a guy who's gonna pop them. 27:21.278 --> 27:24.161 [SPEAKER_04]: Dawson died barking holes, you know, like Suspect puts up his arm. 27:24.281 --> 27:25.643 [SPEAKER_04]: Dawg just sits there and barks and holds them. 27:25.903 --> 27:26.744 [SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna get fucking shot. 27:26.904 --> 27:27.044 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 27:28.025 --> 27:30.688 [SPEAKER_04]: Falco figured it out the next up and he was fucking right. 27:30.708 --> 27:31.309 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we figured it out. 27:31.429 --> 27:32.390 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we figured it out. 27:32.410 --> 27:32.691 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and guys. 27:32.711 --> 27:32.931 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay. 27:32.951 --> 27:33.712 [SPEAKER_05]: Over the came back from. 27:34.032 --> 27:36.975 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so they guys like flying over the weeds. 27:37.016 --> 27:38.197 [SPEAKER_04]: I never got a problem after that. 27:39.812 --> 27:46.602 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I heard going fire, I start to recall Cairo, Cairo was not recalling in Cairo was, I was very fortunate to have him. 27:46.682 --> 27:48.405 [SPEAKER_04]: He recalled no problem. 27:48.445 --> 27:50.067 [SPEAKER_04]: So 30 seconds to a minute. 27:51.429 --> 27:52.090 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's too long. 27:52.110 --> 27:52.972 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a long time. 27:53.012 --> 27:53.312 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yes. 27:53.332 --> 27:53.392 [SPEAKER_05]: So. 27:55.272 --> 28:05.014 [SPEAKER_04]: Making my way down trying to use that low wall and eventually I see him off in the distance since it's coming out of slow and then he just collapses build your mountain walls, don't collapse. 28:05.074 --> 28:06.114 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll run themselves together. 28:06.134 --> 28:07.875 [SPEAKER_04]: I think you take a tennis ball. 28:07.895 --> 28:12.055 [SPEAKER_04]: You sit there in a throw the ball, throw the ball until he dies, they will run themselves to death. 28:12.095 --> 28:13.176 [SPEAKER_05]: They won't collapse. 28:13.236 --> 28:14.196 [SPEAKER_05]: They'd like him more than treats. 28:14.736 --> 28:16.056 [SPEAKER_04]: They will go until they die. 28:16.076 --> 28:17.957 [SPEAKER_04]: So the Belgian mountain wall does not collapse. 28:17.977 --> 28:20.417 [SPEAKER_04]: So my book, I immediately think he's dead, he got to be dead. 28:21.723 --> 28:28.628 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, when the fire fight, 15 shooters up on the tree line is two assholes in the tree line. 28:28.668 --> 28:29.029 [SPEAKER_04]: It's fine. 28:29.289 --> 28:29.789 [SPEAKER_04]: You guys need me? 28:30.650 --> 28:31.290 [SPEAKER_04]: I think you got it. 28:31.390 --> 28:34.973 [SPEAKER_05]: I think you had like 14 plus dudes from SEAL Team 6. 28:35.013 --> 28:36.554 [SPEAKER_05]: I think I think you had those two, would you? 28:36.775 --> 28:36.975 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. 28:37.095 --> 28:39.056 [SPEAKER_04]: So I make my way over Cairo and he's breathing. 28:39.497 --> 28:39.977 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 28:39.997 --> 28:40.377 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 28:40.397 --> 28:40.718 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 28:41.698 --> 28:42.499 [SPEAKER_04]: And one of the medics. 28:42.599 --> 28:42.959 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 28:43.099 --> 28:44.140 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I call it over the radio. 28:45.201 --> 28:48.784 [SPEAKER_02]: It's man, it's cool to see how that shit gets like, and he's solid as fuck. 28:48.884 --> 28:51.226 [SPEAKER_04]: He knew exactly where he was needed. 28:51.346 --> 28:56.230 [SPEAKER_04]: I just make the radio call and he's sliding in, literally as I'm pulling out Cairo's medical kit. 28:57.091 --> 28:57.531 [SPEAKER_04]: What's that bro? 28:58.011 --> 29:03.016 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I just say like whatever Cairo's hit, literally sliding in on his fucking knees and throwing them in the kit. 29:03.136 --> 29:05.137 [SPEAKER_04]: He's ripping it open as soon as I take off his vest. 29:05.157 --> 29:06.198 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sliding his muzzle on. 29:06.218 --> 29:10.261 [SPEAKER_04]: He's stuffing gauze his chest and the Cairo's trying to bite him because, you know, 29:13.839 --> 29:18.041 [SPEAKER_04]: a new immediately, so as soon as he stopped the bleed, like I'm literally picking them up in that bird's landing. 29:18.822 --> 29:19.462 [SPEAKER_04]: Get him back to base. 29:19.622 --> 29:21.844 [SPEAKER_05]: How cool was TF160 coming in on a Cazzy back there? 29:21.864 --> 29:22.564 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a doll in the line. 29:22.584 --> 29:23.184 [SPEAKER_05]: That's awesome. 29:23.204 --> 29:23.625 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a dog. 29:23.865 --> 29:25.806 [SPEAKER_04]: But to us, he's a broke. 29:25.906 --> 29:27.427 [SPEAKER_05]: He's fucking, that's my cousin broke it. 29:27.587 --> 29:28.627 [SPEAKER_04]: I was given my hats off to them. 29:28.828 --> 29:31.009 [SPEAKER_04]: Not only that, but even on the fucking De Laudon Nation, man. 29:31.889 --> 29:46.139 [SPEAKER_05]: I will fly with those guys anywhere any day dude whenever they say the hear the bullshit I know you're not you're smart and not getting in the social media ship But whenever they start the well this mission came up which is the elite unit that should get it should it be dealt? 29:46.199 --> 29:50.862 [SPEAKER_05]: I should have be see everything sex is like really as long as TF 160's flying it doesn't fucking matter 29:51.397 --> 29:52.617 [SPEAKER_05]: Because those dudes are just the pros. 29:52.978 --> 29:53.898 [SPEAKER_05]: No doubt about it. 29:53.918 --> 29:55.899 [SPEAKER_05]: They haven't been the CCT guys or just, you don't hear about it. 29:55.919 --> 29:59.060 [SPEAKER_04]: It was like I was 20 when we did that and I never thought we were going to make it back. 29:59.080 --> 30:10.684 [SPEAKER_04]: We really did have our wheels just done and life insurance policies and max, but I'm like, I'm pretty much going to sleep because if we die, surrounded by the people that I love, doing a fucking great job, this is the thing that something needs to be done. 30:10.784 --> 30:14.225 [SPEAKER_04]: And if anybody's going to get his fucking home, it's these guys. 30:14.305 --> 30:16.666 [SPEAKER_04]: So why am I going to sit here and stress? 30:16.846 --> 30:17.306 [SPEAKER_04]: No, sure. 30:17.346 --> 30:18.206 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to die. 30:18.446 --> 30:20.327 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't want to, but what an ending. 30:20.745 --> 30:23.887 [SPEAKER_04]: But if we're going to fucking, if we're going to set ourselves up for success, this is it. 30:23.907 --> 30:24.908 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know the thing, too. 30:24.948 --> 30:29.731 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the 90-minute flight in was sketch, but if anyone's going to get us there, it's TF-160. 30:29.931 --> 30:30.291 [SPEAKER_04]: 100%. 30:30.331 --> 30:34.334 [SPEAKER_05]: Plus, we had that whatever birds, but we had the four best 60 pilots in the world. 30:35.555 --> 30:36.575 [SPEAKER_04]: So that's why I'm like, yeah, cool. 30:36.636 --> 30:38.477 [SPEAKER_04]: And if we're going to go down, it's just that's God's plan. 30:38.637 --> 30:40.218 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's that there's no, like, 30:41.665 --> 30:51.993 [SPEAKER_05]: The conversations before the bin Laden raid, those were, those were something too with the, you know, we're, because we would fuck around sometimes with the wheels or the, I want turbo to sing tiny dance or acupel it. 30:52.013 --> 30:52.593 [SPEAKER_05]: My favorite. 30:52.613 --> 30:53.174 [SPEAKER_05]: I did binance. 30:53.234 --> 30:53.414 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 30:53.434 --> 30:53.934 [SPEAKER_05]: This is serious. 30:53.954 --> 30:54.875 [SPEAKER_05]: Get the extra life insurance. 30:54.895 --> 30:56.396 [SPEAKER_05]: Everything we've got to do this right. 30:56.416 --> 30:59.558 [SPEAKER_04]: And then after your extortion, we learn some lessons as well. 31:00.119 --> 31:00.439 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 31:00.779 --> 31:05.162 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, because the bin Laden raid was a wake up, but then it was the high of highs and then extortion. 31:06.163 --> 31:08.565 [SPEAKER_05]: And we lose everybody in this like you go to planning funerals. 31:10.165 --> 31:16.029 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was the, I mean, we had been on hundreds and hundreds of missions and nobody's ever told me to make sure my will is done. 31:16.069 --> 31:17.830 [SPEAKER_04]: No life insurance policy was whatever. 31:19.111 --> 31:20.132 [SPEAKER_04]: So that was like the beginning. 31:20.172 --> 31:27.637 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, even taking off The last piss, I had a cigarette, I think, and we're just hugging it out like, all right, get on the bird. 31:27.657 --> 31:28.978 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, you wrote letters. 31:29.499 --> 31:31.080 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, handwritten. 31:33.189 --> 31:35.551 [SPEAKER_05]: I was right in letters, tears hitting the page to my daughter. 31:35.571 --> 31:41.136 [SPEAKER_05]: I wrote it one of my daughters was seven at the time and I remember writing a letter to the 27 year old saying I'm really sorry and Mr. 31:41.176 --> 31:50.945 [SPEAKER_05]: Wedding thanks for taking care of your sisters and your mom and I'm sure you're beautiful What we did was noble Fucking tough man, but then you go out there with what you get dude. 31:50.965 --> 31:52.546 [SPEAKER_05]: How about McCraven speech right before we left? 31:53.127 --> 31:56.830 [SPEAKER_05]: About who's yours and shit and you guys it's a bigger audience 31:57.358 --> 32:00.020 [SPEAKER_04]: We were very fortunate to be able to do what we didn't know. 32:00.040 --> 32:01.041 [SPEAKER_05]: That was very forced. 32:01.321 --> 32:01.902 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the whole. 32:01.962 --> 32:03.943 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't realize you're living history until it's over. 32:04.284 --> 32:07.486 [SPEAKER_05]: But I mean, all bullshit aside, how fucking kickass was that team? 32:08.907 --> 32:09.187 [SPEAKER_04]: Seriously. 32:09.528 --> 32:11.990 [SPEAKER_05]: We could faster like a motherfucker. 32:13.090 --> 32:14.752 [SPEAKER_05]: How are new forums after that? 32:15.172 --> 32:17.434 [SPEAKER_05]: Explain what you're doing for the train up for that bullshit. 32:18.884 --> 32:24.088 [SPEAKER_04]: There isn't, there is a such thing as over-planning, contingency after contingency. 32:24.128 --> 32:25.149 [SPEAKER_04]: We just got back from the point. 32:25.710 --> 32:26.250 [SPEAKER_04]: We resolved. 32:27.231 --> 32:28.672 [SPEAKER_05]: We are seeing your SEAL theme sick. 32:28.692 --> 32:29.393 [SPEAKER_05]: We fast-ropped. 32:29.833 --> 32:30.994 [SPEAKER_05]: We fast-ropped. 32:31.215 --> 32:33.677 [SPEAKER_05]: I was thinking about pulling myself off like I can't do this anymore. 32:33.697 --> 32:35.218 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm going to get 10 and I just forever. 32:35.238 --> 32:39.201 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I didn't use that fast-ropped, descending device anymore, because that screwed me over on that. 32:39.221 --> 32:41.864 [SPEAKER_04]: Did it fuck up? 32:41.904 --> 32:43.285 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have a quick release on one of them. 32:43.325 --> 32:44.426 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the device explained that? 32:44.867 --> 32:48.231 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a device that hooks onto the faster, that can'ts the rope. 32:48.812 --> 32:59.585 [SPEAKER_04]: And then you clip into the device, the dog's clipped into you, you swing the dog, you're clipped into the device, you're both clipped in and then you can feed the rope through once you get to the bottom and you unhook. 32:59.786 --> 33:00.066 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 33:00.567 --> 33:01.248 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot to do. 33:01.922 --> 33:05.483 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't have a quick release on one of the ups and we landed on the side of a mountain. 33:06.083 --> 33:11.224 [SPEAKER_04]: So birds going up the mountain and Cairo is pulling me down the mountain from the river water. 33:11.244 --> 33:12.465 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't have a fucking quick release. 33:12.685 --> 33:14.445 [SPEAKER_04]: My fault didn't think this one through. 33:15.205 --> 33:19.786 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm throwing Cairo up the hill and I'm trying to get this carabiner off the hook and get stuck. 33:20.047 --> 33:21.967 [SPEAKER_04]: And this thing is going, the hook I've just leaving. 33:23.494 --> 33:27.880 [SPEAKER_04]: And my holy shit if they don't see me still attached to this rope and they decide to fly off shit. 33:27.900 --> 33:28.782 [SPEAKER_04]: This is not going to be good. 33:28.862 --> 33:33.008 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm throwing them up the hill and I'm getting exhausted and I finally get off the device. 33:33.048 --> 33:37.834 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm laying on the side of the mountain and I forget who looks or who was everybody was looking at me. 33:38.035 --> 33:39.096 [SPEAKER_04]: I forgot what team leader came with. 33:39.216 --> 33:39.937 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, change you good. 33:42.137 --> 33:42.457 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good. 33:43.038 --> 33:44.119 [SPEAKER_04]: Luckily, I was in pretty good shape. 33:44.279 --> 33:46.180 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was a, I was in evolution. 33:46.381 --> 33:47.421 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a popular factor man. 33:47.441 --> 33:54.447 [SPEAKER_05]: That's like almost like a training scar where when you get in a real position, it's like, well, fuck, we had this safety mechanism. 33:54.467 --> 33:57.990 [SPEAKER_05]: When, when we did the cat and Phillips jump, 33:59.013 --> 34:01.074 [SPEAKER_05]: date time jump and I'm really jumping no problem. 34:01.414 --> 34:04.396 [SPEAKER_05]: But when I got out and realized we don't have safety boats on all corners of the dz. 34:04.456 --> 34:05.477 [SPEAKER_05]: I can't find anything. 34:05.637 --> 34:07.258 [SPEAKER_04]: I can see the Indian Ocean. 34:07.278 --> 34:08.899 [SPEAKER_04]: I can see that's the boxer. 34:09.279 --> 34:09.779 [SPEAKER_04]: There it is. 34:09.819 --> 34:10.680 [SPEAKER_04]: Finally find the ships. 34:10.700 --> 34:11.340 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's head that way. 34:11.360 --> 34:11.661 [SPEAKER_05]: There we go. 34:11.981 --> 34:12.101 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 34:12.121 --> 34:13.562 [SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot of shoots in the show. 34:13.602 --> 34:18.405 [SPEAKER_05]: You know the funniest training star for the cat filers mission was because we flew from Virginia Beach too. 34:30.589 --> 34:39.397 [SPEAKER_05]: Shader was full and then dudes were shit in him already bags and we got put in the tape and not the shit bag put in the bigger bag Shit, we have bag better bag of bags shit That's right the worst thing about that whole thing. 34:39.638 --> 34:50.047 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then the koochie from throw them out the end of the ocean It's like when because we lost the boat we're doing a racetrack and I and I'm talking to the koochie If I said hey, why you what are you gonna do these big bags full of bags of shit? 34:50.793 --> 34:51.954 [SPEAKER_05]: They said we're going to land him in DJ. 34:51.974 --> 34:53.074 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, wait, just throw him out now. 34:53.334 --> 34:55.015 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying, you know, what if we hit your boat? 34:55.035 --> 34:57.957 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm like, I'll give you $1,000 if you can hit one of our people. 34:58.037 --> 34:58.917 [SPEAKER_05]: Hit the boat, guys. 34:59.357 --> 35:00.038 [SPEAKER_05]: They deserve it. 35:00.078 --> 35:02.879 [SPEAKER_04]: Please hit the fucking boat. 35:03.119 --> 35:05.300 [SPEAKER_05]: I will hand the hat around for loose change. 35:05.340 --> 35:05.801 [SPEAKER_05]: You get it. 35:05.821 --> 35:07.582 [SPEAKER_05]: 100 per you get 85% of it. 35:07.642 --> 35:08.662 [SPEAKER_04]: What if we hit the boat? 35:08.702 --> 35:10.923 [SPEAKER_05]: What if he, that was a, and then, but he didn't want hit the boat. 35:10.943 --> 35:12.704 [SPEAKER_05]: See, they flew our boat back to Africa. 35:12.864 --> 35:13.705 [SPEAKER_04]: That, okay. 35:14.385 --> 35:15.306 [SPEAKER_05]: But that was a training score. 35:15.386 --> 35:17.408 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, hello, the guys first got out of the tantrum. 35:17.488 --> 35:24.376 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was going to see the tantrums because, uh, well, the tantrums, we would do that for that reason. 35:25.036 --> 35:28.180 [SPEAKER_05]: Because if you need to jump an interpreter, you need to jump a con guy, which he wasn't. 35:28.300 --> 35:32.925 [SPEAKER_05]: And, and said he fucking, y'allman, um, you're going, you're probably, you're coming on. 35:32.945 --> 35:34.246 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and like waking those just up was fun. 35:34.266 --> 35:35.668 [SPEAKER_05]: Had to change a plan, told me. 35:36.513 --> 35:37.033 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going. 35:37.113 --> 35:38.334 [SPEAKER_05]: Guess I go, you're in the name of it. 35:38.354 --> 35:39.836 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't join the Navy to be a seal. 35:39.856 --> 35:40.636 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to deny that. 35:40.656 --> 35:42.057 [SPEAKER_04]: You're half right. 35:42.337 --> 35:49.523 [SPEAKER_05]: I was given him a JMPI and talking to him about, hey, dude, chicks paid for the shit on the week and that water's 85 degrees. 35:49.563 --> 35:50.363 [SPEAKER_05]: This is a blast. 35:50.383 --> 35:51.124 [SPEAKER_05]: You just cared to death. 35:51.604 --> 35:56.308 [SPEAKER_05]: And the last thing I heard the jump master, the Tana master, say before I left was, well, don't look at me, bro. 35:56.328 --> 35:57.729 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what half the shit does anyway. 35:58.289 --> 35:59.830 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's a good first jump. 35:59.850 --> 36:00.291 [SPEAKER_05]: Combed jump? 36:00.311 --> 36:01.231 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good first jump. 36:01.331 --> 36:02.893 [SPEAKER_04]: That's way, but my pay grade. 36:02.973 --> 36:05.034 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, because they killed three, I didn't kill anybody. 36:06.115 --> 36:06.875 [SPEAKER_04]: they had to help out that. 36:07.675 --> 36:07.995 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 36:08.856 --> 36:09.516 [SPEAKER_04]: That's some shoot. 36:09.576 --> 36:12.736 [SPEAKER_05]: That's some shit out there too, because that wasn't the plan. 36:13.196 --> 36:13.937 [SPEAKER_05]: It was just watched them. 36:14.217 --> 36:14.477 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 36:14.877 --> 36:15.317 [SPEAKER_05]: I went down. 36:15.337 --> 36:16.957 [SPEAKER_04]: I think about the poker factor on that one. 36:17.037 --> 36:20.198 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's, because I wasn't there for the shooting. 36:20.658 --> 36:22.678 [SPEAKER_05]: I was, I was in comms with them. 36:24.159 --> 36:32.380 [SPEAKER_05]: But I guess, and I will have to get one of the shooters, because I'll be damned if I'm a tell someone else's story, even though someone's probably lined up 36:36.721 --> 36:40.004 [SPEAKER_05]: After the shots were taken, they said the pistol was fired. 36:40.024 --> 36:41.606 [SPEAKER_05]: The pistol that was in the boat was fired. 36:42.247 --> 36:46.711 [SPEAKER_05]: So they didn't know until one of our guys got in there, whether or not it can't fill the dead. 36:46.731 --> 36:47.752 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's a pocket factor. 36:47.772 --> 36:52.317 [SPEAKER_05]: And then one of the snipers, he grabbed some dip and just said, everyone leave me the fuck alone now. 36:52.357 --> 36:55.020 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go sit over here and look at the ocean because they didn't get him. 36:55.040 --> 36:56.141 [SPEAKER_05]: And I guess I'll fill this one. 36:56.161 --> 36:56.662 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a beer. 36:57.004 --> 36:58.748 [SPEAKER_04]: And then the slide for life came into play. 36:58.768 --> 37:00.432 [SPEAKER_04]: That's exciting. 37:00.653 --> 37:06.828 [SPEAKER_04]: So then in Buds, you have the O course and the O course you have something called the slide for life and the slide for life is you have these three stories. 37:08.037 --> 37:14.419 [SPEAKER_04]: There's two ways you get up even, hoist yourself up where you just grab platform, do a back flip up, do a back flip up, do a back flip up. 37:14.439 --> 37:14.719 [SPEAKER_04]: So what? 37:14.979 --> 37:15.459 [SPEAKER_04]: 30 feet? 37:16.179 --> 37:16.540 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 37:16.560 --> 37:17.700 [SPEAKER_05]: It's about 30 feet, yes. 37:17.780 --> 37:19.360 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you're gonna get hurt. 37:19.380 --> 37:20.261 [SPEAKER_04]: It's your sand dart. 37:20.281 --> 37:21.941 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so the guys have broken an accent shit. 37:21.981 --> 37:23.222 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you don't want to fall off that part. 37:23.242 --> 37:23.982 [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't fall off. 37:24.122 --> 37:24.862 [SPEAKER_04]: So you're up pretty high. 37:24.982 --> 37:26.863 [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's a route, it's called the slide fly. 37:26.903 --> 37:27.583 [SPEAKER_04]: It starts at the top. 37:27.743 --> 37:29.063 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's slide all the way down. 37:29.103 --> 37:30.744 [SPEAKER_04]: So you start on the top of the route and you, 37:31.550 --> 37:32.970 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, on your chest all the way down. 37:33.070 --> 37:34.131 [SPEAKER_04]: Use your legs to shake your head. 37:34.191 --> 37:34.651 [SPEAKER_04]: Shut up. 37:34.671 --> 37:37.212 [SPEAKER_04]: And if you fuck it up, you flip over and you grab it that way. 37:37.232 --> 37:38.272 [SPEAKER_05]: That's when you get to it for hours. 37:38.872 --> 37:42.333 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, one of the snipers, I hope he gets on here to tell his son. 37:42.353 --> 37:43.954 [SPEAKER_05]: I would love his story is so good. 37:44.514 --> 37:47.215 [SPEAKER_04]: He remember sitting, we had a shit face at his house. 37:47.255 --> 37:48.515 [SPEAKER_04]: It's telling me the whole fucking thing. 37:48.675 --> 37:52.296 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, tell me, I literally could not take it anymore. 37:52.456 --> 37:55.597 [SPEAKER_04]: I had to get to the captain and make sure he was alive. 37:55.617 --> 37:57.958 [SPEAKER_04]: And I fucking just used the slide for life. 37:57.998 --> 37:59.438 [SPEAKER_04]: And I shimmyed all the way down the fucking roof. 38:02.185 --> 38:07.570 [SPEAKER_05]: The story he told me, and it's, I don't care if it's true or not, it's awesome is he's was saying to himself. 38:08.691 --> 38:10.693 [SPEAKER_05]: This is the only time I'm going to rescue someone. 38:10.733 --> 38:12.034 [SPEAKER_05]: I got to think of something cool to say. 38:12.054 --> 38:15.077 [SPEAKER_05]: And he said he thought of Charlie Shane, do over the field theme here to get you out. 38:15.837 --> 38:22.904 [SPEAKER_05]: But I guess, and again, might not be true, but the story I got from him and it's over drink was that he went in there and all of a sudden fully engulfed. 38:23.544 --> 38:40.452 [SPEAKER_05]: live boat they've been using for a toilet for five days in the African huge three news had taken off in front of it he said he looked at Richard Phillips and said I'm going to need therapy fuck that's just nailed it and nailed it on ABC the same thing yeah didn't think I fall into I fall into the shit in the water 38:41.562 --> 38:41.922 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 38:41.962 --> 38:43.142 [SPEAKER_05]: Again, Ricky rumors. 38:43.162 --> 38:44.303 [SPEAKER_05]: This is Nate, I don't know. 38:44.963 --> 38:45.583 [SPEAKER_05]: That was cool though. 38:45.663 --> 38:50.524 [SPEAKER_05]: And then now, we were talking about this offline before week because they said it's a cutter after that. 38:50.544 --> 38:52.425 [SPEAKER_05]: Because nobody knew that was another training star. 38:52.785 --> 38:54.205 [SPEAKER_05]: We've been training since 1980. 38:54.245 --> 38:57.346 [SPEAKER_05]: How do we get the hostage rescue team to wherever 24 hours? 38:57.866 --> 38:58.606 [SPEAKER_05]: And we've been training on that. 38:58.626 --> 39:01.627 [SPEAKER_05]: We hadn't done it one time since 1989. 39:02.047 --> 39:04.048 [SPEAKER_05]: One thing we had thought was, how do we get the guys back? 39:04.829 --> 39:06.450 [SPEAKER_05]: Because you said on the both of her, do you remember? 39:06.670 --> 39:08.410 [SPEAKER_04]: I said on the boat, we sell them both for a minute. 39:08.510 --> 39:10.191 [SPEAKER_05]: But then we went to Qatar for like two weeks. 39:10.211 --> 39:11.031 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't remember that. 39:11.051 --> 39:11.891 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember that. 39:11.911 --> 39:12.952 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, we went to Qatar. 39:13.252 --> 39:16.133 [SPEAKER_05]: What I remember from the jump, did you jump your Rolex? 39:16.753 --> 39:19.054 [SPEAKER_04]: No, because my class was fucked up. 39:19.094 --> 39:20.114 [SPEAKER_04]: And I thought it was a little tape. 39:20.134 --> 39:22.555 [SPEAKER_04]: I should have just taped a little tape because it wasn't quite. 39:22.575 --> 39:23.255 [SPEAKER_05]: You know what pissed me out? 39:23.275 --> 39:24.196 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't keep my report. 39:24.636 --> 39:24.916 [SPEAKER_04]: I did. 39:25.316 --> 39:25.976 [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck you. 39:26.476 --> 39:27.077 [SPEAKER_04]: They kept the rest. 39:27.097 --> 39:27.657 [SPEAKER_04]: So smart. 39:28.268 --> 39:28.769 [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't keep you sunk it. 39:28.789 --> 39:29.510 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I sunk everything. 39:29.550 --> 39:30.010 [SPEAKER_04]: We're supposed to do. 39:30.030 --> 39:31.031 [SPEAKER_04]: I broke you, but I didn't even think I was cool. 39:31.051 --> 39:31.292 [SPEAKER_04]: I was cool. 39:31.312 --> 39:31.532 [SPEAKER_04]: I was cool. 39:31.552 --> 39:31.772 [SPEAKER_05]: I was cool. 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cool. 39:42.806 --> 39:43.106 [SPEAKER_05]: I was cool. 39:43.126 --> 39:43.487 [SPEAKER_05]: I was cool. 39:43.507 --> 39:43.807 [UNKNOWN]: I was cool. 39:43.907 --> 39:44.628 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a lot of stuff. 39:44.788 --> 39:49.816 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, in two with Richard Phillips, you'd better fucking know how much money we will spend to rescue one American. 39:49.836 --> 39:50.357 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a lot. 39:50.938 --> 39:52.300 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's not a wind tunnel time. 39:52.320 --> 39:53.141 [SPEAKER_05]: You've got to nail that exit. 39:53.162 --> 39:54.263 [SPEAKER_05]: Wind tunnel is a cost of about 70,000. 39:54.303 --> 39:55.585 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a lot of tunnel time. 39:55.605 --> 39:58.490 [SPEAKER_05]: But every minute in the wind tunnel, which is into a skydiving, is one junk. 39:59.592 --> 40:02.633 [SPEAKER_05]: But that, what brings that up is with the air ops. 40:03.473 --> 40:14.195 [SPEAKER_05]: You need to nail your jump because that fucking thing, because again, contingency, the boat guys had like 10 cases of 9 mil in the boat for some fucking reason, because you know you need a 9 mil pistol on fucking house arrest. 40:14.215 --> 40:15.456 [SPEAKER_04]: And we were having to reorder the boats. 40:15.536 --> 40:18.556 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we, shooters jumped everything you have. 40:18.576 --> 40:20.497 [SPEAKER_05]: You get to jump in whatever bag you brought. 40:20.997 --> 40:21.457 [SPEAKER_05]: I jumped like, 40:22.337 --> 40:46.924 [SPEAKER_05]: uh uh a leopard towel and some flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy flippy 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good. 41:08.215 --> 41:12.097 [SPEAKER_05]: There's 18,000 feet of nothing, and I don't know what to do with my hands. 41:12.377 --> 41:14.239 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what to do with this. 41:14.339 --> 41:15.179 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm obviously the bitch. 41:15.219 --> 41:15.780 [SPEAKER_05]: He's the man. 41:16.721 --> 41:17.061 [SPEAKER_05]: And then what? 41:17.081 --> 41:17.762 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, then he fucked me. 41:17.982 --> 41:19.143 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 41:19.183 --> 41:20.544 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what it's like. 41:20.564 --> 41:21.465 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to do this again. 41:21.505 --> 41:27.069 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the famous joke about it's like, yeah, but I was the first time I was jump, but I'm in the door and the job master said, John, but I wouldn't jump. 41:27.089 --> 41:27.550 [SPEAKER_05]: He said, job. 41:28.010 --> 41:28.591 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to jump. 41:28.611 --> 41:30.472 [SPEAKER_05]: And he said, if you don't jump, I'm a fucking ass. 41:30.732 --> 41:32.914 [SPEAKER_05]: And you go, well, did you jump while a little at first? 41:33.335 --> 41:35.456 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, you don't want to jump. 41:35.517 --> 41:36.057 [SPEAKER_04]: I owe you. 41:36.097 --> 41:36.297 [SPEAKER_04]: I owe you. 41:36.317 --> 41:36.537 [SPEAKER_04]: I owe you. 41:37.518 --> 41:46.441 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, but that, but that's, because that turned into a, you need to nail this exit, because, you know, the problem on a, on a skydive is when you jump, you're hitting a relative wind. 41:46.461 --> 41:47.801 [SPEAKER_05]: So you're actually going forward about 130 knots. 41:47.821 --> 41:50.402 [SPEAKER_05]: There's like 140 fuchamiles now in human time or whatever. 41:51.222 --> 42:00.945 [SPEAKER_05]: You hit the relative wind, and then if slowly goes down in transition, but if you panic, you flip, and then if you pull on your back, high, low, off to low, is it a low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low, 42:01.325 --> 42:10.231 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but if you fuck that up and then you pull on your back, you're looking at a horse like you could die So you gotta know but we have footage of that job, and people are jumping some gypsy page Don't you don't see out your fucking exit. 42:10.251 --> 42:11.032 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't see the exit. 42:11.052 --> 42:13.774 [SPEAKER_04]: Not only can you kill yourself, you're gonna You're gonna find a fuck somebody else up. 42:13.794 --> 42:14.514 [SPEAKER_04]: You fuck somebody else up. 42:14.754 --> 42:22.079 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because that was uh, that was a tight jump Yeah, you wanted to practice so backflip and it's like you want to help me practice my fuck Yeah, yeah, you're gonna jump on me by the 42:23.792 --> 42:25.073 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we do not attend them. 42:25.093 --> 42:29.776 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and the person who said to it, and they got to have to have, yeah, I'm going to post that picture as good as good. 42:30.076 --> 42:30.876 [SPEAKER_05]: Marana was a good trip. 42:31.076 --> 42:34.478 [SPEAKER_05]: When people asked me what I missed most about the Navy, it had to be the skydive trips. 42:34.679 --> 42:35.319 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think? 42:35.379 --> 42:35.579 [SPEAKER_04]: Great. 42:35.899 --> 42:37.500 [SPEAKER_04]: Stayed in a great place. 42:38.301 --> 42:39.962 [SPEAKER_05]: Mariana was good. 42:40.142 --> 42:41.262 [SPEAKER_04]: Good location. 42:41.383 --> 42:42.123 [SPEAKER_04]: Trident. 42:42.183 --> 42:44.805 [SPEAKER_05]: Nelson Miller, the, the Trident Barring girl. 42:44.825 --> 42:46.306 [SPEAKER_05]: He's got four or five of those now. 42:46.386 --> 42:46.666 [SPEAKER_04]: Does he? 42:47.326 --> 42:49.287 [SPEAKER_05]: Two sign, I want to get back down for him. 42:49.487 --> 42:49.948 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's good. 42:49.968 --> 42:50.228 [SPEAKER_05]: He's good. 42:50.974 --> 42:51.775 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm not a big jumper. 42:52.256 --> 42:53.197 [SPEAKER_04]: So, they were still good. 42:53.217 --> 42:53.898 [SPEAKER_05]: You jumped all the time. 42:54.719 --> 42:55.660 [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't mean it was a big jumper. 42:55.880 --> 42:56.621 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to like it. 42:56.881 --> 42:57.822 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't have to like it. 42:58.784 --> 43:00.225 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, why would you let me jump your tandem then? 43:00.245 --> 43:00.906 [SPEAKER_05]: Just because it was fine. 43:00.946 --> 43:01.527 [SPEAKER_05]: Because it's you. 43:01.547 --> 43:01.988 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, thank you. 43:02.688 --> 43:03.509 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so the jump. 43:03.529 --> 43:04.731 [SPEAKER_04]: I've never just been a tandem before. 43:05.212 --> 43:05.732 [SPEAKER_04]: And I trust you. 43:05.992 --> 43:06.393 [SPEAKER_05]: Now it's gone. 43:06.693 --> 43:07.414 [SPEAKER_05]: So, the fuck is that? 43:08.395 --> 43:10.278 [SPEAKER_05]: The tandem course was not a good deal. 43:12.631 --> 43:24.481 [SPEAKER_05]: So one thing I would have made myself man up early, so I told myself, I would have said it's a man course, but it is the call that you have it like you jump because with the The tan of course, you have to jump bundles and a bundles of the barrel. 43:24.561 --> 43:31.687 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a usually about 300 pounds, 250, 300 pounds, but you get to 400 pounds and you're jumping that shit and actually they're getting pretty famous online. 43:31.707 --> 43:33.048 [SPEAKER_05]: There's there's dudes putting out 43:34.846 --> 43:49.173 [SPEAKER_05]: there's this aircrew something an air force guy or somebody is posting really cool videos of self set do you're getting it down now like they have this like we're out there like just either throw up before you're off the hill or not guys are like really common they know that it'll eventually fall in but uh 43:49.713 --> 44:05.385 [SPEAKER_05]: But with that course, you're jumping that 400 square foot canopy that you put in the same size as a normal canopy, and the way the army does it is you unpack issued package you unpack issued unpack issued unpack issued unpack issued, unpack issued, unpack issued, and you do four of those a day you lost me a pack. 44:05.425 --> 44:05.845 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right. 44:06.506 --> 44:07.306 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, pack repack. 44:07.867 --> 44:08.127 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 44:08.707 --> 44:10.249 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, that was a man course. 44:10.349 --> 44:14.652 [SPEAKER_05]: I've never, I was, what was the, what was some good courses like that, six. 44:15.598 --> 44:16.819 [SPEAKER_04]: sniper school. 44:17.679 --> 44:18.620 [SPEAKER_04]: That was a very good course. 44:18.640 --> 44:20.861 [SPEAKER_04]: I had a kick in the screen for Skype sniper school. 44:21.081 --> 44:22.202 [SPEAKER_05]: Were you forming a sniper school? 44:22.222 --> 44:22.422 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 44:22.502 --> 44:22.722 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 44:23.502 --> 44:24.263 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you that adabary? 44:25.243 --> 44:27.645 [SPEAKER_05]: How do you like sniper life fucking of sniper school? 44:27.965 --> 44:28.405 [SPEAKER_04]: Which part? 44:28.685 --> 44:29.065 [SPEAKER_04]: All of it. 44:29.466 --> 44:30.986 [SPEAKER_04]: Man, camera stuff is. 44:31.767 --> 44:32.207 [SPEAKER_04]: It's still cool. 44:32.227 --> 44:32.927 [SPEAKER_04]: It's still sniper school. 44:34.328 --> 44:36.509 [SPEAKER_04]: I kept saying they kept saying no. 44:36.589 --> 44:39.851 [SPEAKER_04]: You're going, I had a breacher and I was going to learn Spanish and some other school. 44:39.871 --> 44:41.152 [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I'm a fucking sniper school. 44:41.172 --> 44:43.113 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying I kept asking and asking and asking and 44:44.603 --> 44:48.804 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I was told, so two times, they go to sniper school and they go to dev group. 44:49.324 --> 44:52.445 [SPEAKER_04]: It's top fucking asking, or you're literally going to get recommended. 44:52.665 --> 44:56.446 [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to get in trouble, and I still asked again, and somehow I pulled off some. 44:56.466 --> 44:57.047 [SPEAKER_05]: Were you asking? 44:57.187 --> 44:58.147 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, it's the leadership. 44:58.347 --> 45:01.888 [SPEAKER_04]: I was asking certain leadership, and they said, no, don't ask again. 45:01.908 --> 45:02.748 [SPEAKER_04]: I was asking you to ask. 45:02.788 --> 45:04.709 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I just asked this other guy and it worked out. 45:04.749 --> 45:05.329 [SPEAKER_05]: They'll get you there. 45:05.429 --> 45:06.229 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was being conducted. 45:06.369 --> 45:06.949 [SPEAKER_05]: Did they never went? 45:07.530 --> 45:08.150 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what it was. 45:08.410 --> 45:09.710 [SPEAKER_05]: What, how'd you like stocking? 45:10.250 --> 45:10.831 [SPEAKER_04]: I love stocking. 45:11.011 --> 45:11.971 [SPEAKER_05]: Were you good at it first? 45:12.451 --> 45:13.192 [SPEAKER_04]: That was pretty decent. 45:13.473 --> 45:13.633 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 45:13.773 --> 45:14.454 [SPEAKER_05]: My first one sucked. 45:14.635 --> 45:14.795 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 45:15.296 --> 45:15.436 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 45:15.476 --> 45:16.618 [SPEAKER_05]: I knew nothing about cannibal flaws. 45:16.658 --> 45:17.339 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't realize it. 45:19.927 --> 45:25.972 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the great coach, they were teaching that the, the, the big picture of camouflages is not what you're wearing. 45:25.992 --> 45:27.293 [SPEAKER_05]: It's what's behind you and around you. 45:27.313 --> 45:29.675 [SPEAKER_05]: And if you can blend that with layers and shit, I'm not going to give it up. 45:30.195 --> 45:31.656 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, man, that's dude. 45:32.076 --> 45:36.340 [SPEAKER_05]: And when you get to it, where you can be invisible, some of you're shooting at, that's a cool feeling of uncool. 45:36.780 --> 45:46.227 [SPEAKER_04]: And it was also in my 20s, so I didn't really give a shit about, I remember breaking ice water a little bit, like not for, but it was, I was in ice water watching the target on my, man. 45:46.587 --> 45:46.867 [SPEAKER_05]: Really? 45:46.908 --> 45:47.548 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm fucking cold. 45:48.903 --> 45:53.268 [SPEAKER_05]: I went through before I deployed. 45:53.288 --> 45:54.770 [SPEAKER_05]: I was a new guy going through sniper school. 45:54.910 --> 45:59.676 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know a fucking thing about anything So you got to figure you don't know shit about you go to STT then you go to sniper school. 45:59.696 --> 46:03.621 [SPEAKER_05]: You're a snug guy Yeah, I could shoot and so I got lucky 46:08.566 --> 46:10.647 [SPEAKER_05]: So it has life, it sucks until it's amazing and it sucks again. 46:11.588 --> 46:12.408 [SPEAKER_05]: Just how it works, right? 46:12.428 --> 46:13.389 [SPEAKER_05]: It's cool. 46:13.769 --> 46:15.630 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, sniper school was a good one. 46:15.650 --> 46:16.230 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was hard. 46:16.430 --> 46:17.830 [SPEAKER_05]: Did someone pressure on you? 46:18.011 --> 46:19.651 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I knew a guy going to sniper school. 46:19.671 --> 46:20.892 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 46:21.272 --> 46:22.292 [SPEAKER_05]: You will get nothing else. 46:22.312 --> 46:23.353 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a lot of people. 46:23.373 --> 46:23.593 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 46:23.753 --> 46:24.954 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a great school to get. 46:24.974 --> 46:26.754 [SPEAKER_04]: And then you go, everybody else is watching you. 46:26.834 --> 46:28.055 [SPEAKER_04]: And you go back to your team. 46:28.075 --> 46:28.875 [SPEAKER_05]: Then you go back to your team. 46:28.915 --> 46:31.296 [SPEAKER_05]: And then you're the now those small arms instructor. 46:31.316 --> 46:32.877 [SPEAKER_05]: You're teaching people how to side in their shit. 46:32.917 --> 46:34.058 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it sounds silly that, 46:34.918 --> 46:38.061 [SPEAKER_05]: You're teaching ABC else how to sit in an iron sights on an M4, but you are. 46:38.201 --> 46:40.943 [SPEAKER_05]: And you're teaching them the ballistics you're talking about, wind and shell like that. 46:40.963 --> 46:42.164 [SPEAKER_04]: We do so much shit. 46:42.805 --> 46:43.385 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a dude. 46:43.865 --> 46:45.086 [SPEAKER_05]: The Kim's games I love. 46:45.247 --> 46:46.067 [SPEAKER_05]: The Kim's memory. 46:46.668 --> 46:47.649 [SPEAKER_04]: I won't love them these days. 46:48.429 --> 46:49.630 [SPEAKER_04]: No, you don't want to go there. 46:49.650 --> 46:50.611 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you don't want to go there. 46:50.731 --> 46:51.912 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know where I'm at right now. 46:52.412 --> 46:53.613 [SPEAKER_05]: So Kim's games keep in memory. 46:53.693 --> 46:56.256 [SPEAKER_05]: And what they would do is they give you 10 items. 46:57.296 --> 46:58.397 [SPEAKER_05]: You got to look out of for a minute. 46:58.838 --> 47:02.781 [SPEAKER_05]: And then you have two minutes to write down three descriptions of it, right? 47:02.801 --> 47:03.522 [SPEAKER_05]: There's two descriptions. 47:04.527 --> 47:05.988 [SPEAKER_05]: It's three descriptions. 47:06.008 --> 47:11.332 [SPEAKER_05]: So you don't write fork, something you write metal forked eight inches long. 47:11.872 --> 47:12.293 [SPEAKER_05]: Shit like that. 47:12.633 --> 47:13.193 [SPEAKER_05]: But then they got it. 47:13.273 --> 47:15.515 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember there was one Kim game where they took it. 47:15.555 --> 47:17.977 [SPEAKER_05]: They were like, before we went to the range, like, all right, go outside and turn around. 47:18.317 --> 47:21.019 [SPEAKER_05]: Look at the, like, it's flying a roof on one of those shitty old army buildings. 47:21.259 --> 47:22.660 [SPEAKER_05]: And there was 10 items on the roof. 47:22.680 --> 47:23.341 [SPEAKER_05]: And like, what are we doing? 47:23.681 --> 47:24.762 [SPEAKER_05]: And you're like, okay, go to the range. 47:25.302 --> 47:26.483 [SPEAKER_05]: Six hours later you come back. 47:26.523 --> 47:27.684 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, you get two minutes right down. 47:27.704 --> 47:28.645 [SPEAKER_05]: Describe those things like, 47:29.165 --> 47:42.278 [SPEAKER_05]: fuck you, but you're remembering the way that you sing the song, you know, it's like, um, um, copper buck, you know, copper bottle eight inches cap, copper, eight inches cap, uh, you heard with Perk, copper, and you remember that, and then we start to write your answer. 47:42.298 --> 47:42.858 [SPEAKER_04]: She's a little sense. 47:42.878 --> 47:44.240 [SPEAKER_05]: But that's like for range cards, isn't it? 47:45.201 --> 47:45.401 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. 47:46.607 --> 47:47.428 [SPEAKER_04]: of that stuff adds up. 47:47.708 --> 47:50.970 [SPEAKER_04]: It's teaching those little tools on what was your shooting shooting was good. 47:50.990 --> 47:56.394 [SPEAKER_04]: I was a great except for snaps and movers and I think I'm dyslexic a little bit or something. 47:56.414 --> 47:57.254 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what my deal is. 47:57.274 --> 48:06.361 [SPEAKER_05]: When you're shooting snaps and a mover that's going with a weird windage, you're shooting behind something, moving that way, but the wind's going to pull it at a certain distance dead set. 48:06.381 --> 48:07.582 [SPEAKER_04]: Did that got me? 48:07.602 --> 48:08.902 [SPEAKER_04]: I almost feel a lot of sample school. 48:09.663 --> 48:13.826 [SPEAKER_05]: I almost had my shooting buddy fail because I was a spotter on unknown distance. 48:14.755 --> 48:18.039 [SPEAKER_05]: And he missed his first shot and I didn't see it. 48:18.299 --> 48:19.821 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, I have no idea the distance. 48:19.861 --> 48:20.762 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if he went higher to low. 48:20.802 --> 48:21.743 [SPEAKER_05]: I got to make a correction. 48:21.823 --> 48:24.326 [SPEAKER_05]: And the fucked up thing is if I fucked this up, he's out. 48:24.446 --> 48:25.407 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 48:25.427 --> 48:25.787 [SPEAKER_05]: He hit it. 48:25.827 --> 48:27.129 [SPEAKER_05]: I think he just, I think he manned up. 48:27.169 --> 48:29.131 [SPEAKER_05]: And said, I'll do this and just watch the vapor trail this time. 48:29.832 --> 48:30.032 [SPEAKER_05]: Nice. 48:30.603 --> 48:32.143 [SPEAKER_04]: You kid you crushed it. 48:32.243 --> 48:32.744 [SPEAKER_04]: No big deal. 48:33.044 --> 48:39.986 [SPEAKER_05]: It was with this far as I even the because as a spotter you're doing the well, both people are milling and then the spotters watch the vapor trail. 48:40.426 --> 48:41.366 [SPEAKER_04]: And no issues with any of that. 48:41.806 --> 48:43.266 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was those movers that got me. 48:43.527 --> 48:44.887 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the movers really. 48:45.667 --> 48:46.767 [SPEAKER_04]: But I got it finally. 48:46.847 --> 48:48.388 [SPEAKER_05]: And then so you deployed with steel came forward. 48:48.408 --> 48:50.708 [SPEAKER_04]: I just need all the bad guys to stand steel overseas. 48:50.728 --> 48:51.469 [SPEAKER_04]: That's it. 48:51.549 --> 48:53.469 [SPEAKER_05]: It seems like it's not a big ass. 48:53.489 --> 48:54.549 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's getting a little 48:59.523 --> 49:01.584 [SPEAKER_05]: But that was a team 40 and then you deployed as a sniper then. 49:02.285 --> 49:08.128 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as a sniper did it deploy first the point of team four PSD On the best deployment. 49:08.188 --> 49:08.648 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 49:08.908 --> 49:14.952 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like that's the security detail security detail Oh, that was the president of a rack. 49:15.132 --> 49:16.073 [SPEAKER_05]: See that's not the president. 49:16.113 --> 49:19.415 [SPEAKER_05]: That's no that's the book or Clear here. 49:19.615 --> 49:21.816 [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's the guy we put it that's the guy we place there. 49:21.836 --> 49:25.418 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not the president But you should be risking your life for that piece of shit because he did the same for you 49:25.947 --> 49:26.668 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was fun fun. 49:27.328 --> 49:28.869 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, where were you after PSD stuff? 49:29.069 --> 49:29.630 [SPEAKER_05]: Like Baghdad? 49:29.850 --> 49:30.590 [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm. 49:30.630 --> 49:32.091 [SPEAKER_05]: And you're in by your word like... What year? 49:33.352 --> 49:37.936 [SPEAKER_04]: Thousand... Sevenish, 26. 49:37.956 --> 49:40.497 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, a place was hot, no seven. 49:40.517 --> 49:41.538 [SPEAKER_04]: And we weren't doing all that, obviously. 49:41.658 --> 49:43.439 [SPEAKER_04]: We went on two ops on that deployment. 49:43.459 --> 49:45.661 [SPEAKER_04]: And one of them, I was holding security on the back door. 49:46.842 --> 49:50.184 [SPEAKER_04]: Whoa, we didn't really, it was in, you know. 49:50.284 --> 49:51.245 [SPEAKER_04]: So we went to solder city. 49:52.246 --> 49:53.006 [SPEAKER_04]: That was the deployment. 49:53.327 --> 49:53.667 [SPEAKER_04]: Really? 49:53.767 --> 49:54.607 [SPEAKER_04]: That was a good deployment. 49:54.687 --> 49:55.188 [SPEAKER_05]: Tell me about that. 49:56.008 --> 50:00.930 [SPEAKER_04]: That place was a fucking solder city was how big, a couple on any blocks, just full of million fucking bags. 50:00.950 --> 50:13.494 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, so the way that it was set up is Al Qaeda is Sunni, and the solder city under Mugtata, the solder is Shea from Iran, Iran, how are we saying that now? 50:13.934 --> 50:15.335 [SPEAKER_05]: I know we're saying Turkey anywhere. 50:17.937 --> 50:27.184 [SPEAKER_05]: But those are the Shia and the Saudi city was that's your fight in the Iranians, those guys with the, uh, explicitly from a penetrant, those fucking, uh, Eidia. 50:28.245 --> 50:28.725 [SPEAKER_05]: So what was that? 50:28.765 --> 50:29.205 [SPEAKER_05]: What was that? 50:29.526 --> 50:33.569 [SPEAKER_05]: Can you walk us through a good, a good hot mission in Saudi city like Suthanuts? 50:34.263 --> 50:39.207 [SPEAKER_04]: I was though, just mostly sniper with that, so we'd be, we breached. 50:39.587 --> 50:41.108 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it moved a little. 50:41.188 --> 50:42.449 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a sniper's out of city. 50:42.629 --> 50:43.570 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's some shit. 50:43.610 --> 50:43.890 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 50:43.950 --> 50:44.371 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry. 50:44.891 --> 50:48.013 [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't, you hear that minigun going off a lot, that was a good sound. 50:48.194 --> 50:51.296 [SPEAKER_04]: Every time we roll in and hear the minigun go off, you know, somebody died. 50:51.623 --> 51:05.632 [SPEAKER_04]: the minigun from the birds from the uh... now we were on birds real homies we didn't even the front and the lead and rear vehicle have miniguns i did not know that just now i also want to be the gunner and the lead always wanted to be the minigun do you know that's it 51:07.839 --> 51:30.413 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you talk to any of the guys who got me any kind of love to what it really for what did they say they got disappeared Yes, I it was a strong deployment where there was a private there was air crew guy at his first kill when the 47 was landing There was a dude in the world wrote a wash a bad guy and they landed right in front of him and he hit him with the minigun And that was his first kill. 51:30.714 --> 51:32.375 [SPEAKER_05]: I saw him in the childhood after that op 51:33.055 --> 51:41.550 [SPEAKER_05]: and I was I asked him as I was how was that go down and he goes he just vanished and as I hear you did the right thing home with my favorite sounds that in the eight tens coming in danger close 51:43.184 --> 51:52.687 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so solder sits up to, all right, so no, they're doing initial breach and it snipers, we would, everybody, we were still doing, we're not taking it slow. 51:53.208 --> 51:57.549 [SPEAKER_04]: So everything's dynamic fast stuff, but we would just make our way up to the rooftops and hold security. 51:57.629 --> 51:59.130 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I'm not familiar with that either. 51:59.150 --> 52:06.312 [SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, I, I saw it six, but like, you, did you have your designated buildings that would be the Overwatch and you're just trying to, you would play clear your way up to the rooftop? 52:06.332 --> 52:10.114 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would follow in behind the assault force, get to the roof and then basically hold over watch. 52:10.214 --> 52:10.414 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 52:11.598 --> 52:15.600 [SPEAKER_05]: So I just know me like if I know I'm gonna be I'm probably just gonna run through the whole fucking escape there. 52:16.100 --> 52:17.681 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's it. 52:17.761 --> 52:18.662 [SPEAKER_04]: You're clearing along the way. 52:18.682 --> 52:19.682 [SPEAKER_04]: You get into the roof. 52:20.482 --> 52:20.703 [SPEAKER_05]: It's good. 52:20.763 --> 52:21.583 [SPEAKER_05]: And then when you get another. 52:21.603 --> 52:25.305 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, tell me what's it like being on the rooftop and solder city when people are going on? 52:26.606 --> 52:26.866 [SPEAKER_04]: It's good. 52:27.126 --> 52:27.986 [SPEAKER_04]: One of the first guys shot. 52:28.587 --> 52:30.387 [SPEAKER_04]: It's so hot. 52:30.407 --> 52:33.609 [SPEAKER_04]: I heard they were dropping hand grenades from the rooftops into the humvies. 52:33.889 --> 52:35.590 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and this guy was being fucking sketched. 52:35.610 --> 52:37.131 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know I was pretty new, you know? 52:39.415 --> 52:45.742 [SPEAKER_04]: One of the Iraqi counterparts was like, hey, guy over there, he calls me over and I'm looking, I'm like, oh, that guy's fucking sketching. 52:45.963 --> 52:46.824 [SPEAKER_04]: No way would I know now. 52:47.084 --> 52:49.627 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's fucking drop that guy. 52:50.793 --> 52:51.614 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to bug him like. 52:51.634 --> 52:51.834 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 52:51.934 --> 52:52.515 [SPEAKER_05]: How are we? 52:52.615 --> 52:54.196 [SPEAKER_05]: I was sure he's shed that. 52:54.616 --> 52:55.077 [SPEAKER_04]: They were great. 52:55.197 --> 52:55.837 [SPEAKER_04]: I was great. 52:55.897 --> 52:56.518 [SPEAKER_04]: So it was all good. 52:56.538 --> 53:03.124 [SPEAKER_04]: It was just, you know, but eventually he's jumping over the walls, being real sketchy and all I could think of as a man. 53:03.304 --> 53:06.106 [SPEAKER_04]: That was a grenade over and he killed some of my guys. 53:06.767 --> 53:07.908 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to fucking off myself. 53:07.928 --> 53:08.769 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm going to kill myself right here. 53:08.789 --> 53:09.970 [SPEAKER_04]: And he tried to be in sketchy's fuck. 53:10.010 --> 53:10.590 [SPEAKER_04]: He's not listening. 53:10.731 --> 53:13.413 [SPEAKER_04]: So I dropped him and he's up being the guy we're looking for. 53:14.154 --> 53:14.534 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 53:15.909 --> 53:19.190 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean, but like little do I know now? 53:19.431 --> 53:23.893 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like yeah, being around for a long time The motherfuckers I come out and they're looking lose. 53:23.973 --> 53:25.953 [SPEAKER_04]: They're they're just standing there You put the laser on them. 53:25.973 --> 53:26.614 [SPEAKER_04]: They go away. 53:26.854 --> 53:27.334 [SPEAKER_04]: They listen. 53:27.634 --> 53:30.015 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're not Oh, I see where you say. 53:30.035 --> 53:30.655 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay. 53:30.976 --> 53:37.959 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, look at those don't realize well because we can see they can't at least at the time Right Fucking be dropped them whatever. 53:38.159 --> 53:39.559 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, no for sure. 53:39.599 --> 53:40.560 [SPEAKER_04]: It was 100% the right call. 53:40.580 --> 53:40.960 [SPEAKER_04]: They actually 53:42.487 --> 53:50.311 [SPEAKER_04]: During the debrief the next day, I guess he had killed some people in their unit, like one of the person they say, thank you to for getting rid of that. 53:50.572 --> 53:51.772 [SPEAKER_05]: It was good, yeah, it was, I think. 53:51.992 --> 53:53.333 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, what else did you send him to Abelgrider? 53:53.353 --> 53:53.853 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm 30 this. 53:55.154 --> 53:56.075 [SPEAKER_05]: So, this is what it is. 53:56.735 --> 53:56.915 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 53:57.696 --> 54:00.077 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, and then we go to Team 6. 54:00.097 --> 54:03.639 [SPEAKER_05]: What year was your dream team, Green Team? 54:03.659 --> 54:03.919 [SPEAKER_05]: 2008? 54:04.339 --> 54:04.660 [SPEAKER_05]: 2008. 54:05.080 --> 54:06.240 [SPEAKER_05]: I should know all this. 54:06.280 --> 54:07.941 [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I'm getting a... 54:08.121 --> 54:08.862 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm surprised I remember. 54:09.133 --> 54:09.453 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 54:09.993 --> 54:12.114 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, eight, and then we did Charonio 9. 54:12.734 --> 54:14.634 [SPEAKER_05]: No, we did Camp Phillips, and Charonio 9 didn't we? 54:14.654 --> 54:16.134 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you didn't do that. 54:16.154 --> 54:16.394 [SPEAKER_04]: 2009. 54:16.474 --> 54:16.874 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 54:17.355 --> 54:23.396 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so that was, uh, Camp Phillips is a trip and then you sit on there and then then we're just around. 54:23.416 --> 54:25.356 [SPEAKER_05]: We did a Shanktup. 54:25.416 --> 54:25.656 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 54:26.516 --> 54:27.656 [SPEAKER_04]: It's the first Shanktup. 54:27.716 --> 54:28.777 [SPEAKER_05]: No, Charonio 4. 54:28.817 --> 54:33.117 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I went to Shanktup with Silver because we were, uh, we did a deployment. 54:33.137 --> 54:35.618 [SPEAKER_05]: I was, I was the SEA for the Omega's. 54:37.592 --> 54:38.053 [SPEAKER_05]: 10-11. 54:38.434 --> 54:41.624 [SPEAKER_05]: So we got out of there like around February, March of 11. 54:42.366 --> 54:43.530 [SPEAKER_05]: Where were you in that one? 54:43.670 --> 54:44.332 [SPEAKER_05]: Cause you were in Jima? 54:45.282 --> 54:45.962 [SPEAKER_04]: It was in shape. 54:46.463 --> 54:47.143 [SPEAKER_05]: Jamie had a good one. 54:47.163 --> 54:49.324 [SPEAKER_04]: We had a, because we were right back there a few months later. 54:49.484 --> 54:49.804 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 54:49.844 --> 54:50.645 [SPEAKER_05]: We, the same place. 54:50.745 --> 54:56.768 [SPEAKER_05]: I was running, so I would just watch the office, because I was running the, whatever. 54:57.128 --> 55:01.250 [SPEAKER_05]: And I would watch your office and there was a new guy, I don't want to say his name at Red Squadron. 55:01.670 --> 55:04.232 [SPEAKER_05]: And one of his first, his first kills at Red Squadron, he had a saw. 55:05.092 --> 55:09.834 [SPEAKER_05]: And he was placed in front of a barn, and they were hitting the house, but I was all sleeping on the barn. 55:09.855 --> 55:10.875 [SPEAKER_05]: And DJ Shipley's talked to me. 55:10.935 --> 55:12.236 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like his first deployment with us. 55:13.016 --> 55:17.001 [SPEAKER_05]: And DJ talks about how these nine guys, or whatever, ran out right in front of the stuff. 55:17.141 --> 55:18.562 [SPEAKER_05]: It's first up again, nine kills. 55:18.642 --> 55:21.065 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a good throwing seven or nine of them at that point of cares. 55:21.726 --> 55:22.126 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good. 55:22.146 --> 55:22.687 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good day. 55:22.787 --> 55:26.010 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you got to hunt around seven dudes. 55:26.091 --> 55:27.152 [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody gets at least two. 55:29.014 --> 55:31.216 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but then that and then we're then we were down in Florida. 55:35.536 --> 55:37.017 [SPEAKER_05]: and got the recall and the whole thing started. 55:37.057 --> 55:39.259 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we've talked about them in Laundry. 55:39.279 --> 55:43.503 [SPEAKER_05]: There's no, I mean, training faster up and then the only guy to faster up was the pilot. 55:43.603 --> 55:46.766 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was just a little weird because, you know, you walk into the team room, something's going on. 55:46.786 --> 55:48.387 [SPEAKER_04]: It's always just the team room. 55:48.427 --> 55:49.928 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, everybody, what's going on? 55:50.008 --> 55:50.789 [SPEAKER_04]: And this one was just like, 55:52.267 --> 55:54.008 [SPEAKER_04]: We're in the team room, but we're gonna go into the back. 55:54.189 --> 55:54.769 [SPEAKER_05]: That got weird. 55:54.869 --> 55:55.370 [SPEAKER_04]: That was weird. 55:55.830 --> 55:56.070 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 55:56.110 --> 55:56.971 [SPEAKER_05]: So then what do you mean? 55:57.632 --> 55:59.753 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be got the guys that are picked for a mission. 55:59.773 --> 56:00.514 [SPEAKER_05]: We don't know what it is. 56:00.554 --> 56:03.317 [SPEAKER_05]: We got the guys that are at scale teams six that don't know why we're going back to. 56:03.337 --> 56:04.077 [SPEAKER_05]: They're not a lot of talent. 56:04.097 --> 56:06.639 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, well, the JLC started immediately. 56:06.759 --> 56:07.380 [SPEAKER_05]: It was just weird. 56:08.001 --> 56:12.204 [SPEAKER_05]: What would it be like if you were at scale teams six and they're picking, well, you're not at the real scale teams. 56:12.244 --> 56:14.186 [SPEAKER_05]: So you just fuck off while these guys go doing it. 56:14.406 --> 56:16.288 [SPEAKER_05]: And then Blue Squad was over there when we go over it. 56:16.308 --> 56:16.428 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 56:16.808 --> 56:17.689 [SPEAKER_05]: How did they put up with us? 56:19.003 --> 56:22.585 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's all, it's the world one big team is just the luck of the drawing, you know. 56:22.605 --> 56:23.985 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know what else to do. 56:24.005 --> 56:25.466 [SPEAKER_05]: Blue's what was professional's fuck. 56:25.526 --> 56:25.746 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 56:26.327 --> 56:26.967 [SPEAKER_04]: Could have been in yours. 56:27.227 --> 56:29.188 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just, that's just, no, you know, you know, right. 56:29.208 --> 56:34.711 [SPEAKER_04]: So we would have, I'm sure they would have sucked, but at least I would have been proud. 56:36.592 --> 56:37.192 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, seriously. 56:37.212 --> 56:38.473 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, everybody made it home alive. 56:38.533 --> 56:47.397 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's what I was thinking about the mission too, because when we got back and even that shady S fucking debrief that for some reason happened, it was the, for me and it was like, it doesn't, this doesn't matter. 56:48.126 --> 56:50.548 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as soon as the recording device was brought out, that sucked. 56:50.568 --> 56:51.389 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember any of it. 56:51.509 --> 56:55.712 [SPEAKER_04]: All I remember about the whole debrief was somebody disputing the recording device. 56:55.752 --> 57:06.982 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, other than that, once it was established at the recording device was going to stay out, I don't remember, I don't know if it's the TBI, but I don't really remember, nobody wanted to talk. 57:07.022 --> 57:08.183 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no, no. 57:08.603 --> 57:09.604 [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever is going to be said is, 57:11.661 --> 57:28.792 [SPEAKER_05]: I think they've been on Regout Weird because during the same time with that there was also like you go We went to the CB's place and had some peace and shit Then you get on to check your email and it's all over Yahoo, see a theme six kills on me I got like in Cairo to Cairo's dog That's the dog name. 57:28.912 --> 57:31.053 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it wasn't too long as a week or two. 57:31.073 --> 57:39.979 [SPEAKER_04]: I think well, that's like oh great We worked for a lot of law enforcement on the only handler with a dog name Cairo like I Was not happy about it 57:40.959 --> 57:46.665 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I mean, think about all of you, there's the intelligence people, think about how we were willing to sacrifice our lives. 57:46.865 --> 57:47.906 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a suicide mission. 57:47.946 --> 57:48.266 [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't. 57:48.326 --> 57:49.107 [SPEAKER_04]: We had been around. 57:49.187 --> 57:51.049 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we've been inside HBIDs, right? 57:51.069 --> 57:52.150 [SPEAKER_04]: We've been near HBIDs. 57:52.170 --> 57:53.852 [SPEAKER_04]: We're leadership like yourself. 57:53.872 --> 57:54.673 [SPEAKER_04]: We're smart enough. 57:55.333 --> 58:01.559 [SPEAKER_04]: When our way big leadership was like, you're going to go inside this fucking HBID and our immediate leadership was like, nope. 58:02.200 --> 58:02.861 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you're going. 58:02.881 --> 58:04.782 [SPEAKER_04]: No, we're not, I think it's frustrated. 58:04.922 --> 58:09.626 [SPEAKER_04]: And then they just figure it the fuck out and shot fucking rockets at it and blew the building up. 58:09.666 --> 58:12.108 [SPEAKER_05]: We missed with the first rocket and then they started going high order. 58:12.148 --> 58:17.011 [SPEAKER_05]: You were going in that belly saying, no, no, and then we hit it for us to go on a suicide mission. 58:17.372 --> 58:24.597 [SPEAKER_04]: I know I'm surrounded by a bunch of guys that are not going to do something like that because we're smart enough to figure out that we don't, we're not going to fucking do it. 58:25.058 --> 58:27.900 [SPEAKER_04]: So just the intelligence alone for us to be like, yep, we're in. 58:29.341 --> 58:46.953 [SPEAKER_04]: I was convinced he was there right and that was enough for me to be like yeah man if y'all fucking believe it the intelligence it's like I felt bad for him what are y'all gonna do now y'all've obviously dedicated how many years studying this what the fuck are you gonna do after this yeah when when when the girl my uh or whatever they call her 58:48.903 --> 58:55.871 [SPEAKER_05]: They depicted in Zergarh 30 really well when the head of the CIA played by James Gattle, Phoenix, accidentally on Penetta. 58:56.152 --> 58:58.314 [SPEAKER_05]: In the movie he said, what else do you do for us? 58:58.735 --> 58:59.476 [SPEAKER_05]: And she said nothing. 58:59.856 --> 59:00.277 [SPEAKER_05]: I do this. 59:00.337 --> 59:00.757 [SPEAKER_05]: I can tell. 59:01.398 --> 59:02.459 [SPEAKER_05]: And that was her legit. 59:04.297 --> 59:05.698 [SPEAKER_04]: It was enough for us to be like, yeah, let's go. 59:05.718 --> 59:08.039 [SPEAKER_05]: What a relief, too, because I've been working with the CIA a lot. 59:08.059 --> 59:11.961 [SPEAKER_05]: I used to fuck with them saying the worst thing to CIA does is it makes movies about them making them look cool. 59:11.981 --> 59:16.804 [SPEAKER_05]: You guys aren't that cool knife and fucking accident over your names, but then we met them. 59:16.844 --> 59:20.306 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, this is legit, and then you have to helicopter pilots. 59:20.326 --> 59:31.152 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, think about losing half the team as soon as we get to target, flying an hour and a half end of fucking Pakistan, and when soon as we get to the most wanted person in the world's house, we lose half the team. 59:31.872 --> 59:33.573 [SPEAKER_04]: Instead, it actually worked out in our favor. 59:35.022 --> 59:35.382 [SPEAKER_04]: about that. 59:36.803 --> 59:39.624 [SPEAKER_04]: So the intelligence, I was fucking legit, 160th pallets. 59:40.065 --> 59:41.045 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, fuck yeah, guys. 59:41.065 --> 59:42.106 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just fucking nailed it. 59:42.366 --> 59:45.908 [SPEAKER_05]: I would say everyone was live by landing in the front yard and pin it on the wall. 59:45.988 --> 59:48.969 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not sure if there's a truth in here, but he said like, I can fly that motherfucker out of here. 59:49.009 --> 59:50.110 [SPEAKER_05]: I know you, I know he said that. 59:51.108 --> 59:52.169 [SPEAKER_04]: We believe you today. 59:52.249 --> 59:53.730 [SPEAKER_04]: Hold on, let's pump the brakes. 59:54.130 --> 59:54.851 [SPEAKER_05]: He wanna fly it out. 59:54.911 --> 59:55.932 [SPEAKER_04]: That's how good those guys are. 59:55.972 --> 59:56.312 [SPEAKER_04]: I know. 59:56.372 --> 59:59.574 [SPEAKER_04]: So hats off to them, and then everybody on the team, man, like every fucking person. 01:00:00.615 --> 01:00:01.376 [SPEAKER_04]: We all know how it ended. 01:00:01.396 --> 01:00:01.836 [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm. 01:00:02.797 --> 01:00:06.440 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the gunfight downstairs with a carrier, the fucking legit. 01:00:07.941 --> 01:00:08.761 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a fucking gunfight. 01:00:08.801 --> 01:00:10.623 [SPEAKER_04]: People took a shot from the door, right? 01:00:11.023 --> 01:00:11.984 [SPEAKER_05]: It was legit gunfight. 01:00:12.164 --> 01:00:13.785 [SPEAKER_04]: Fighters on every fucking floor. 01:00:13.805 --> 01:00:14.966 [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm. 01:00:14.986 --> 01:00:17.848 [SPEAKER_04]: Is somebody, somebody, somebody thought they were gonna fucking explode. 01:00:20.788 --> 01:00:21.869 [SPEAKER_05]: I could not agree. 01:00:21.889 --> 01:00:24.291 [SPEAKER_04]: He should get the fucking metal after that. 01:00:24.411 --> 01:00:28.674 [SPEAKER_04]: And he literally said, I remember being inside the HBID. 01:00:29.114 --> 01:00:29.935 [SPEAKER_04]: Were you in that HBID? 01:00:29.955 --> 01:00:30.895 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was looking right at it. 01:00:30.915 --> 01:00:31.636 [SPEAKER_04]: You remember that feeling? 01:00:31.716 --> 01:00:35.118 [SPEAKER_04]: How it feels like when you think you're going to explode, legit, like I don't, what's this stuff? 01:00:35.178 --> 01:00:37.980 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I had the EOD guy from the bin Laden Redder's right next to me. 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:38.741 [SPEAKER_04]: Like what's this going to feel like? 01:00:38.761 --> 01:00:40.082 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a weird feeling. 01:00:40.542 --> 01:00:41.763 [SPEAKER_05]: No, just something. 01:00:42.223 --> 01:00:43.924 [SPEAKER_04]: You're running out of a house that's about to explode. 01:00:44.405 --> 01:00:45.886 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember saying, uh, landslide. 01:00:47.108 --> 01:00:53.753 [SPEAKER_05]: running out of the house and just if you I mean imagine being a sniper on the second floor like that means a fucking jump now Don't now. 01:00:54.133 --> 01:01:00.058 [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't matter jump Then we found nothing third floor That's what blow up man. 01:01:00.078 --> 01:01:01.119 [SPEAKER_05]: We've lost dudes on that shit. 01:01:01.139 --> 01:01:09.545 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but no, yeah, let me think about that So I remember going to the first room on the right and Looking for bombs 01:01:10.680 --> 01:01:12.121 [SPEAKER_05]: didn't know the helicopter crash. 01:01:12.482 --> 01:01:13.382 [SPEAKER_05]: There's got to be bombs. 01:01:13.623 --> 01:01:34.721 [SPEAKER_05]: No, but I get you know what I guess too was Adam on McCraven back in J Bad watched the helicopter crash and he said I guess I wasn't there obviously I was trying to figure out how to get in the front house but he said yeah obviously there's been a contingency but don't worry my men are prepared and McCraven later he told me that 01:01:36.796 --> 01:01:41.680 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know if everyone half a team was dead, but I did know the White House freaking out right now is not going to help. 01:01:41.980 --> 01:01:45.463 [SPEAKER_05]: So he just said, hey, everything's fine, which I didn't know the fuck out. 01:01:45.483 --> 01:01:45.923 [SPEAKER_04]: Trust your team. 01:01:46.083 --> 01:01:46.504 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, man. 01:01:46.524 --> 01:01:46.724 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 01:01:46.904 --> 01:01:47.284 [SPEAKER_04]: Of course. 01:01:48.085 --> 01:01:49.106 [SPEAKER_04]: And then. 01:01:50.427 --> 01:01:50.727 [SPEAKER_05]: So what? 01:01:50.867 --> 01:01:51.828 [SPEAKER_05]: So what went on outside? 01:01:51.848 --> 01:01:55.771 [SPEAKER_05]: Because we try to find, we blew the one thing and shit, what was going on outside? 01:01:55.971 --> 01:01:57.953 [SPEAKER_05]: What did you see from the breach to the other breach? 01:01:58.996 --> 01:02:00.377 [SPEAKER_04]: I was doing external sweeps. 01:02:00.617 --> 01:02:01.797 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's right, that's right, yeah. 01:02:01.997 --> 01:02:02.578 [SPEAKER_04]: That was external. 01:02:03.018 --> 01:02:07.240 [SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, it's hard to keep a dog locked into explosive odor. 01:02:08.340 --> 01:02:09.581 [SPEAKER_04]: Especially once the dog's been seasoned. 01:02:09.661 --> 01:02:10.641 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a dog. 01:02:10.701 --> 01:02:12.762 [SPEAKER_04]: All of them all wants to do is fight. 01:02:13.023 --> 01:02:13.443 [SPEAKER_04]: Think about it. 01:02:13.483 --> 01:02:13.743 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 01:02:14.424 --> 01:02:14.784 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:02:14.804 --> 01:02:18.788 [SPEAKER_04]: Getting, biting you guy, getting all the blood in your mouth, you're in a, like, a fight. 01:02:18.848 --> 01:02:20.369 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what a mile-in-law is bred. 01:02:20.449 --> 01:02:24.673 [SPEAKER_04]: And so they live for, or you find a bomb and you get a tennis ball. 01:02:25.573 --> 01:02:28.176 [SPEAKER_04]: Eventually they're kind of like, once they're seasoned, like, fuck that tennis ball. 01:02:28.316 --> 01:02:29.857 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know what I mean? 01:02:29.977 --> 01:02:30.598 [SPEAKER_04]: What would you rather do? 01:02:30.618 --> 01:02:31.618 [SPEAKER_04]: I want to find the bad guys. 01:02:31.638 --> 01:02:31.939 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:02:32.902 --> 01:02:35.443 [SPEAKER_04]: So my job was to keep him locked into explosive odor. 01:02:36.323 --> 01:02:40.264 [SPEAKER_04]: So external breaches or external sweeps looking for escape tunnels too and they come on. 01:02:40.484 --> 01:02:40.945 [SPEAKER_04]: It's been long. 01:02:40.965 --> 01:02:43.385 [SPEAKER_04]: There's gonna be some sort of escape tunnel or explosives. 01:02:43.405 --> 01:02:45.246 [SPEAKER_04]: So just watching for that ought to be something. 01:02:45.786 --> 01:02:57.970 [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing and then once we made our way to the inside, it's just keeping him away from the bodies and away from the glass because there was, you know, stairway was blown, there's glass everywhere, there was dead bodies, windfighter. 01:02:59.062 --> 01:03:00.382 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a fucking legit thing. 01:03:00.403 --> 01:03:07.225 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm pulling them away from bodies, keeping them away from glass, and I'm trying to keep them locked into explosive odor because that's the most thing. 01:03:07.245 --> 01:03:12.487 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought, I figured, I mean, think about how many aspects we saw overseas, or the house is going to be rediscovered. 01:03:12.627 --> 01:03:14.047 [SPEAKER_04]: Keep them locked into explosive odor. 01:03:14.067 --> 01:03:15.308 [SPEAKER_05]: Because it sounds good, a lot. 01:03:15.348 --> 01:03:16.288 [SPEAKER_04]: Something's going to blow. 01:03:16.708 --> 01:03:17.589 [SPEAKER_04]: That's one number one thing. 01:03:18.189 --> 01:03:21.350 [SPEAKER_04]: And then we'll probably going to find an escape room or a safe room. 01:03:21.910 --> 01:03:24.811 [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I thought, thought you would have some sort of safe room that. 01:03:25.752 --> 01:03:26.672 [SPEAKER_05]: And you do two laps. 01:03:27.763 --> 01:03:32.730 [SPEAKER_04]: Two laps on the external and then I brought them on the inside and just started doing sweeps on the room side. 01:03:32.870 --> 01:03:40.620 [SPEAKER_04]: I could keep them walked into explosive order until I got to the second floor and watching them watch them and that's when you walked into the room. 01:03:43.527 --> 01:03:46.408 [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, so when you said, I'm pretty sure I just shot that motherfucker in the face. 01:03:46.508 --> 01:03:46.708 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:03:47.108 --> 01:03:47.848 [SPEAKER_04]: Remember, I looked at you. 01:03:47.868 --> 01:03:50.149 [SPEAKER_04]: I know exactly you're talking about, but we don't have time to fuck around. 01:03:50.169 --> 01:03:51.129 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, oh, shit, noted. 01:03:52.250 --> 01:03:53.450 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm still I'm just watching Cairo. 01:03:53.470 --> 01:03:54.690 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking for change of behavior. 01:03:54.710 --> 01:03:55.491 [SPEAKER_04]: We're job to do. 01:03:55.531 --> 01:03:56.711 [SPEAKER_04]: We're focused in my cool, man. 01:03:56.731 --> 01:03:56.931 [SPEAKER_04]: But. 01:03:58.051 --> 01:04:02.573 [SPEAKER_04]: And then 30 seconds later, drama mode comes over the target or the over the radio. 01:04:03.773 --> 01:04:05.334 [SPEAKER_04]: First high five every given on target. 01:04:05.434 --> 01:04:18.579 [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's awkward to even say now, but it was very fitting at the time It was done even if we die on the way back home They're not gonna sin that over the fucking radio, which is going back all the way to the fucking top They're not gonna say that over there. 01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:19.199 [SPEAKER_04]: It is 100% done 01:04:21.117 --> 01:04:45.965 [SPEAKER_05]: dronimo eke means it's Osama bin Laden and he's fucking dead hundred percent that was something i'm getting goosebumps right now it's like well we because even like my thought was if the building blows up we're killing that motherfucker i'm dying with him but we got him and this is the ending that this is what i came for fuck it let's do it and i'm with i'm with everyone i love right i'm gonna die it's not a bad way to go i'm only best was i go i think i was 28 01:04:46.991 --> 01:04:50.733 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to die, but shit, I don't really want to. 01:04:51.173 --> 01:05:00.098 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, tell my dad, tell him, I always, I couldn't say anything, but you know, he had to go on a trip, like bad news is, you probably won't hear from me again. 01:05:00.678 --> 01:05:02.779 [SPEAKER_04]: Good news is, you're going to be richest fuck. 01:05:05.401 --> 01:05:07.362 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm rich bitch, how will I know? 01:05:07.522 --> 01:05:08.142 [SPEAKER_05]: You'll know. 01:05:08.742 --> 01:05:13.545 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm rich bitch, that's funny, so when you guys were, you were with one of the snipers. 01:05:14.749 --> 01:05:16.271 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you see the tail then? 01:05:16.471 --> 01:05:18.593 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because he made a weird call on us inside. 01:05:18.613 --> 01:05:19.414 [SPEAKER_05]: That was hilarious. 01:05:20.235 --> 01:05:21.156 [SPEAKER_05]: He said something. 01:05:21.196 --> 01:05:23.678 [SPEAKER_05]: I need to get him on here too, but it said, I heard something. 01:05:23.698 --> 01:05:30.665 [SPEAKER_05]: Again, everyone's got their own story and ship can change, but I heard guys inside be on alert because they're ready for us. 01:05:30.685 --> 01:05:31.706 [SPEAKER_05]: They have a training mind. 01:05:33.620 --> 01:05:38.961 [SPEAKER_05]: And then I know I heard someone say no jackass, we crash, yeah, that makes a lot more sense. 01:05:39.361 --> 01:05:43.302 [SPEAKER_04]: I do remember walking around and seeing the tail over the thing, but we didn't know what happened. 01:05:43.522 --> 01:05:45.082 [SPEAKER_04]: No, no calls were coming over the radio. 01:05:45.102 --> 01:05:46.323 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I heard that one going around. 01:05:46.863 --> 01:05:48.063 [SPEAKER_04]: No calls were coming over the radio. 01:05:48.123 --> 01:05:48.583 [SPEAKER_04]: Really good. 01:05:48.603 --> 01:05:49.983 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, fuck, I hope everybody's okay. 01:05:52.104 --> 01:05:52.904 [SPEAKER_04]: But we didn't hear anything. 01:05:53.344 --> 01:05:53.604 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:05:55.145 --> 01:05:55.325 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:05:56.645 --> 01:05:57.585 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then it was time to leave. 01:05:57.625 --> 01:05:59.685 [SPEAKER_05]: And we were on the bird out to get the bird in. 01:06:03.062 --> 01:06:04.343 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the Travis Trits on? 01:06:05.064 --> 01:06:05.244 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. 01:06:05.665 --> 01:06:12.411 [SPEAKER_04]: So he used to listen to it's a great day to be alive with Falco, the dog I was supposed to get, but he died before he was. 01:06:13.412 --> 01:06:16.575 [SPEAKER_04]: So the first appointment you get a couple of collateral duty, you know, what do you like? 01:06:16.955 --> 01:06:19.918 [SPEAKER_04]: Jump in, breach in, sniping. 01:06:20.578 --> 01:06:21.179 [SPEAKER_04]: Fucking dog guy. 01:06:21.479 --> 01:06:30.327 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as soon as I expressed interest being a dog guy, like cool you'll get Falco when you get back And Falco died right before that deployment and he's always Listen to it's a great day to be alive. 01:06:30.347 --> 01:06:38.654 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, the song would be up a lot of the times you sit in there with the boys Yeah, you're on a fucking you're on the bird flying bird home when the sun comes out 01:06:38.714 --> 01:06:39.754 [SPEAKER_04]: What's sitting next to the dog? 01:06:39.794 --> 01:06:40.735 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a great day to be alive. 01:06:41.035 --> 01:06:44.656 [SPEAKER_04]: The job I love, the people that I fucking love, I fucking, it's perfect, it's very fitting. 01:06:44.696 --> 01:06:46.376 [SPEAKER_04]: And I couldn't listen to it after Falko died. 01:06:46.957 --> 01:06:52.178 [SPEAKER_04]: And then we're on the ride back, I'm flipping through my shuffle, and it's a great day to be alive, comes on. 01:06:52.238 --> 01:06:53.859 [SPEAKER_04]: It's okay, that's, this is pretty fitting. 01:06:53.879 --> 01:06:56.660 [SPEAKER_04]: So first time I listen, that's all I'm saying Falko died. 01:06:59.560 --> 01:07:01.081 [SPEAKER_05]: I can try right now if I wanted to. 01:07:01.101 --> 01:07:02.241 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was a good dog. 01:07:02.601 --> 01:07:02.982 [SPEAKER_05]: Great dog. 01:07:05.032 --> 01:07:09.097 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember someone saying our gentlemen for the first time in your life, you're going to be happy to hear this. 01:07:09.117 --> 01:07:10.018 [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to Afghanistan. 01:07:10.078 --> 01:07:10.419 [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck you. 01:07:11.660 --> 01:07:11.820 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:07:12.040 --> 01:07:12.481 [SPEAKER_05]: Holy shit. 01:07:12.541 --> 01:07:13.262 [SPEAKER_04]: There's not a lot of shit. 01:07:13.362 --> 01:07:14.664 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember that I remember. 01:07:14.744 --> 01:07:16.045 [SPEAKER_05]: I had a high five in the house. 01:07:16.165 --> 01:07:17.928 [SPEAKER_05]: Are we allowed to high five again now? 01:07:17.968 --> 01:07:18.568 [SPEAKER_05]: What the fuck was it? 01:07:18.588 --> 01:07:19.329 [SPEAKER_05]: We let him hook it up. 01:07:21.515 --> 01:07:23.815 [SPEAKER_04]: Remember they said over the radio or am I making this up? 01:07:24.056 --> 01:07:25.856 [SPEAKER_04]: Then they say Pakistan just scrambled the juts. 01:07:26.116 --> 01:07:27.236 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I heard that. 01:07:27.256 --> 01:07:28.456 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I did not make that up. 01:07:28.797 --> 01:07:29.017 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 01:07:29.217 --> 01:07:32.677 [SPEAKER_05]: And then we didn't hear by the way, our pilots intercepted him or anything. 01:07:32.717 --> 01:07:37.378 [SPEAKER_05]: We're just like, then you're wondering again, okay, what does it feel to get hit with a fucking missile? 01:07:37.458 --> 01:07:41.359 [SPEAKER_04]: Not the smartest person, but I know a jet goes faster than a helicopter. 01:07:41.379 --> 01:07:44.180 [SPEAKER_05]: Pretty sure an F-16 can be a shun. 01:07:44.220 --> 01:07:44.960 [SPEAKER_05]: Now we're fine with shun nooks. 01:07:44.980 --> 01:07:46.180 [SPEAKER_05]: They're not even in the good birds. 01:07:46.220 --> 01:07:46.920 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, they're great for no. 01:07:46.940 --> 01:07:47.821 [SPEAKER_04]: They're great for her. 01:07:47.841 --> 01:07:49.221 [SPEAKER_05]: They're not fast spot. 01:07:49.281 --> 01:07:49.441 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:07:49.781 --> 01:07:50.222 [SPEAKER_05]: They're big. 01:07:50.822 --> 01:07:51.684 [SPEAKER_05]: They're big and they're loud. 01:07:52.365 --> 01:08:04.401 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but yeah, the flight back and then then we landed and then like I remember when we got off the bird and looking around and then you know walking to the hangar and just looking on them like Everybody's a lot we're fine And did it. 01:08:04.902 --> 01:08:05.783 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was fucking 01:08:07.652 --> 01:08:09.434 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it was good, uh, Bagram. 01:08:09.494 --> 01:08:13.697 [SPEAKER_05]: We went up there, the, the, the, I remember the president came out, brought the share's out for us. 01:08:13.997 --> 01:08:15.519 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and we're just sitting there. 01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:18.882 [SPEAKER_04]: All of us just sitting there with his canoeed head right there. 01:08:18.962 --> 01:08:22.245 [SPEAKER_04]: Watching that great statesman Obama. 01:08:22.425 --> 01:08:23.586 [SPEAKER_04]: He dressed the nation tonight. 01:08:23.626 --> 01:08:25.648 [SPEAKER_05]: I get reported to the American people into the world. 01:08:25.668 --> 01:08:27.149 [SPEAKER_05]: The United States conduct an operation. 01:08:27.169 --> 01:08:29.070 [SPEAKER_05]: The kill was some have been lying in the leader of our kindness. 01:08:29.111 --> 01:08:30.191 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't watch everyone's in a while. 01:08:30.332 --> 01:08:31.813 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll buy out the lies right there. 01:08:32.173 --> 01:08:32.553 [SPEAKER_05]: Right there. 01:08:32.634 --> 01:08:33.734 [SPEAKER_05]: That's how the fuck did we get here. 01:08:33.935 --> 01:08:34.575 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's pretty cool. 01:08:34.795 --> 01:08:35.516 [SPEAKER_04]: And everybody's alive. 01:08:36.357 --> 01:08:36.537 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:08:38.043 --> 01:08:39.905 [SPEAKER_05]: And then that's it and the red room. 01:08:40.786 --> 01:08:42.088 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's good. 01:08:42.148 --> 01:08:42.508 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. 01:08:43.249 --> 01:08:48.636 [SPEAKER_05]: Because I've said the most accurate depiction of what happened after the bin Laden rate was Rob Riegel's depiction. 01:08:48.956 --> 01:08:49.437 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God. 01:08:49.457 --> 01:08:50.458 [SPEAKER_05]: She got wrong with it. 01:08:50.738 --> 01:08:55.604 [SPEAKER_05]: He named a ball in San Diego said the red room because the red room was a trip. 01:08:56.505 --> 01:08:57.947 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's where the problem started. 01:08:58.813 --> 01:08:59.373 [SPEAKER_04]: And then again. 01:08:59.453 --> 01:09:18.687 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, I mean, we're out drinking all night and I don't like most guys went it a lot of guys went home most guys Fucking right in all the blue team guys that were in town because one of the guys from blue team when we got back brought in a job a bottle of Johnny blue And said I was saving this for special occasion think and I remember we said in the red team room with red team guys Blue team guys most of the shooters. 01:09:18.707 --> 01:09:23.670 [SPEAKER_05]: We told the exact story and no one had a problem with it Anyway, what's the red room got you face 01:09:24.651 --> 01:09:34.855 [SPEAKER_05]: And I remember the next day, I actually called the mass shifts and I would be too hours late because I'm going to be too hours late because we just killed a zombie line and I'm not coming in right now to fill a travel claim. 01:09:34.875 --> 01:09:36.435 [SPEAKER_05]: The Navy can keep their $1.50 cents. 01:09:36.515 --> 01:09:36.855 [SPEAKER_04]: That cool? 01:09:38.096 --> 01:09:38.296 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 01:09:40.337 --> 01:09:41.297 [SPEAKER_05]: I know the care at the time. 01:09:41.317 --> 01:09:42.557 [SPEAKER_05]: We're all supposed to be dead, right? 01:09:42.577 --> 01:09:43.518 [SPEAKER_04]: Same thing with fucking Cairo. 01:09:43.538 --> 01:09:48.339 [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, hey, I'm going to take Cairo home and feed him a steak with people who were bringing dogs on, they shouldn't be bring real. 01:09:48.580 --> 01:09:49.340 [SPEAKER_04]: They don't get understand. 01:09:50.170 --> 01:09:51.611 [SPEAKER_04]: It's fucking Cairo. 01:09:51.811 --> 01:09:53.072 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm bringing him home for a fucking sake. 01:09:53.132 --> 01:09:54.533 [SPEAKER_04]: I got my PP slap for that. 01:09:54.593 --> 01:09:55.073 [SPEAKER_04]: Did you really? 01:09:55.193 --> 01:09:58.515 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, the Master Chief, I was wearing the killing of the time. 01:09:58.675 --> 01:09:59.816 [SPEAKER_04]: But I forgive him. 01:10:01.116 --> 01:10:01.917 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm mad enough to help it. 01:10:01.937 --> 01:10:02.677 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll forgive him eventually. 01:10:02.977 --> 01:10:06.519 [SPEAKER_04]: I was very mad for a long time, but maybe he was just going through his own stuff at the time. 01:10:06.679 --> 01:10:07.000 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:08.020 [SPEAKER_04]: He's still a team guy. 01:10:08.200 --> 01:10:08.801 [SPEAKER_04]: He's a team guy. 01:10:09.001 --> 01:10:11.102 [SPEAKER_04]: He might've just gone through some of there. 01:10:11.122 --> 01:10:12.243 [SPEAKER_04]: He was just going through some personal stuff. 01:10:12.263 --> 01:10:13.103 [SPEAKER_05]: He definitely was, too. 01:10:13.123 --> 01:10:14.544 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's an important point. 01:10:14.564 --> 01:10:17.145 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, the other dude who's going through shit, you don't realize it. 01:10:20.727 --> 01:10:21.788 [SPEAKER_05]: We're kind of reprimanded. 01:10:21.808 --> 01:10:22.408 [SPEAKER_04]: No, not bad. 01:10:22.489 --> 01:10:24.390 [SPEAKER_04]: This is just like, don't, you shouldn't have done that. 01:10:24.410 --> 01:10:25.411 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want you to fucking do that. 01:10:25.431 --> 01:10:25.771 [SPEAKER_05]: You know what? 01:10:25.791 --> 01:10:27.372 [SPEAKER_05]: I also shouldn't have brought him a fucking package to him. 01:10:27.392 --> 01:10:27.773 [SPEAKER_05]: But I did. 01:10:27.973 --> 01:10:29.094 [SPEAKER_04]: Number one, I don't give a fuck. 01:10:29.114 --> 01:10:30.015 [SPEAKER_04]: You're not my team leader. 01:10:30.115 --> 01:10:31.596 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't give a fuck if you're a master chief or not. 01:10:31.696 --> 01:10:32.196 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't care. 01:10:32.296 --> 01:10:32.777 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't care. 01:10:32.957 --> 01:10:34.498 [SPEAKER_04]: It's my team leaders. 01:10:34.879 --> 01:10:35.759 [SPEAKER_04]: Are you going to yell at me? 01:10:35.919 --> 01:10:36.840 [SPEAKER_04]: That's who I care about. 01:10:36.860 --> 01:10:37.180 [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody. 01:10:37.240 --> 01:10:37.941 [SPEAKER_04]: I personally care. 01:10:37.961 --> 01:10:39.742 [SPEAKER_05]: I was ripping the agrimizer at the radio. 01:10:39.843 --> 01:10:41.184 [SPEAKER_04]: Y'all would have bought the stakes too. 01:10:41.284 --> 01:10:41.904 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yes. 01:10:42.124 --> 01:10:43.285 [SPEAKER_06]: Of course, you deserve some stakes. 01:10:43.305 --> 01:10:45.347 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, here's the extra fucking stake for him. 01:10:45.467 --> 01:11:13.493 [SPEAKER_05]: do how crazy is that like we get done with the greatest mission fucking modern history and also the admin bitches come out start complaining about stuff it's not crazy we don't listen to that shit there it's insane like literally travel plans like fuck off we're good good fire me I'm good now yeah then I you know it's so what so you went back over then one more deployment what went down so just real quick went we'll get into after maybe anything went downhill was I used to wish I died after that mission because after that 01:11:16.375 --> 01:11:40.141 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very 01:11:46.990 --> 01:11:47.910 [SPEAKER_05]: Let me the library. 01:11:48.591 --> 01:11:51.812 [SPEAKER_04]: So then having the first time and then Nick died, Nick check. 01:11:51.832 --> 01:11:54.554 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm gonna host a dress Oh God, here for a lot again. 01:11:54.574 --> 01:12:08.040 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna sing a new song after a story Because he moved he moved Nick was an our team Can you please Nick so Nick check like they're one of one 01:12:09.970 --> 01:12:13.113 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember he was the legend buff in green team. 01:12:13.153 --> 01:12:13.753 [SPEAKER_05]: I was a team. 01:12:13.813 --> 01:12:35.649 [SPEAKER_05]: I wasn't team leader yet or was I I don't know But I heard about him like he's always got beat up by green team instructions because I like I want that guy But he was just a you had one miss-happ in green team that he yeah, but it wasn't that it was a fight very unlike well Yeah, but the story I like is before this is my favorite Nick check story and it wasn't even there So you need to tell it 01:12:36.659 --> 01:12:42.204 [SPEAKER_05]: You went free fall jump master and it's an army school and we're Navy Seals who never quit. 01:12:42.485 --> 01:12:45.868 [SPEAKER_05]: Please tell what happened at jump school or free fall jump master. 01:12:45.888 --> 01:12:54.577 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a like airborne's a big school in Army, uh, saturday on john master is free fall is a huge cool free fall jump master is up there. 01:12:54.597 --> 01:12:55.758 [SPEAKER_05]: So you're free fall to john master. 01:12:55.918 --> 01:12:56.498 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a call. 01:12:56.599 --> 01:12:56.819 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 01:12:56.939 --> 01:12:57.760 [SPEAKER_04]: And they're great. 01:12:57.980 --> 01:13:01.103 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it's in the middle of the fucking nowhere Arizona. 01:13:02.188 --> 01:13:02.508 [SPEAKER_04]: it sucks. 01:13:02.969 --> 01:13:03.469 [SPEAKER_04]: It sucks. 01:13:04.210 --> 01:13:08.474 [SPEAKER_04]: So at least the only silver lining is I'm there with one of my best friends in the check. 01:13:08.514 --> 01:13:09.695 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my fuck yeah, okay. 01:13:09.735 --> 01:13:10.656 [SPEAKER_04]: We're stuck in the shed hole. 01:13:10.676 --> 01:13:12.437 [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to this school to get check in the box. 01:13:13.398 --> 01:13:14.219 [SPEAKER_04]: At least I'm with Nick. 01:13:15.229 --> 01:13:38.181 [SPEAKER_04]: then my team leader calls me the hey package it I got you a plane ticket maybe the airport and that was kind of weird telling the cadre the hey man my boss call i got to go and i just can cover him what do you mean you can't leave the school like you know my boss called literally they go like well you need to go to this office on the second floor and i did i went over the office in there yeah i'm like oh play this game i might get time my flight is here i have time so i went over the 01:13:40.480 --> 01:13:40.961 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm done. 01:13:41.082 --> 01:13:42.607 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just just telling them to call my boss. 01:13:42.747 --> 01:13:43.891 [SPEAKER_04]: So I gave them my boss's number. 01:13:43.911 --> 01:13:45.818 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure we'll explain it, but then 01:13:47.612 --> 01:13:48.612 [SPEAKER_04]: What happened with Nick? 01:13:48.892 --> 01:13:50.033 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the next day, it was like, oh, yeah. 01:13:50.073 --> 01:13:53.374 [SPEAKER_04]: So I go back to the after a check out and go back, my hey, buddy, we're getting recalled. 01:13:53.474 --> 01:13:54.574 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, hey, man, we're getting recalled. 01:13:54.594 --> 01:13:56.155 [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, I'm not getting recalled. 01:13:57.115 --> 01:13:59.856 [SPEAKER_04]: And it was so weird to me, because Nick was a way better operator than I was. 01:13:59.876 --> 01:14:01.817 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was just Nick was fucking solid. 01:14:01.857 --> 01:14:04.218 [SPEAKER_04]: So it was immediately going, yeah. 01:14:04.898 --> 01:14:06.458 [SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean you're not getting recalled? 01:14:06.559 --> 01:14:08.139 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm getting fucking recalled. 01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:08.699 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 01:14:08.719 --> 01:14:09.640 [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody made a mistake. 01:14:09.660 --> 01:14:10.480 [SPEAKER_04]: I was getting recalled. 01:14:10.500 --> 01:14:11.280 [SPEAKER_04]: But I don't give a fuck. 01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:12.501 [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck you bitch. 01:14:12.881 --> 01:14:14.421 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm even the best thing in this. 01:14:14.721 --> 01:14:16.502 [SPEAKER_05]: They must have forgotten about your stupid ass. 01:14:18.466 --> 01:14:19.186 [SPEAKER_04]: That's right. 01:14:19.226 --> 01:14:19.946 [SPEAKER_04]: Have fun. 01:14:20.006 --> 01:14:20.246 [SPEAKER_04]: How? 01:14:20.607 --> 01:14:21.607 [SPEAKER_04]: Have fun here by yourself. 01:14:21.627 --> 01:14:24.428 [SPEAKER_04]: You cocks up. 01:14:25.388 --> 01:14:26.988 [SPEAKER_04]: And then the next day, he told everybody I quit. 01:14:27.248 --> 01:14:28.489 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the funny shit I've ever heard. 01:14:28.509 --> 01:14:29.529 [SPEAKER_05]: Where's your buddy quit? 01:14:29.889 --> 01:14:30.849 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, where's your Navy's still buddy? 01:14:30.949 --> 01:14:31.429 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he quit. 01:14:32.530 --> 01:14:33.190 [SPEAKER_05]: And he got in there. 01:14:33.270 --> 01:14:34.330 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm assuming he just ran face to face. 01:14:34.370 --> 01:14:34.810 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. 01:14:35.310 --> 01:14:35.790 [SPEAKER_04]: You know Nick. 01:14:36.611 --> 01:14:37.251 [SPEAKER_04]: So he got me back. 01:14:37.311 --> 01:14:37.811 [SPEAKER_04]: He always did. 01:14:39.011 --> 01:14:43.953 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he started and then he was killed, uh, hostage rescue right hostage rescue sacrifice his life. 01:14:44.233 --> 01:14:45.393 [SPEAKER_04]: He took the shots at the gate. 01:14:46.857 --> 01:14:50.179 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, the one-century guy outside of the door, you know, this is in my story to tell either. 01:14:50.219 --> 01:14:51.821 [SPEAKER_04]: But he was a fucking stud. 01:14:51.841 --> 01:14:54.763 [SPEAKER_04]: He knew what he was getting into when he did not hesitate going through the door. 01:14:55.143 --> 01:14:57.605 [SPEAKER_04]: He died to say that American hostage. 01:14:57.965 --> 01:14:59.746 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because the hostage rescue, you're fucking moving out. 01:15:00.527 --> 01:15:01.307 [SPEAKER_04]: He did not hesitate. 01:15:01.467 --> 01:15:01.708 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:15:04.850 --> 01:15:05.270 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, man. 01:15:05.290 --> 01:15:05.991 [SPEAKER_05]: He was a stud. 01:15:06.531 --> 01:15:10.934 [SPEAKER_05]: He was on my team, and he was like, like, car trouble, so fix it. 01:15:10.974 --> 01:15:13.896 [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking issues in the house, so fix it. 01:15:13.916 --> 01:15:15.758 [SPEAKER_05]: Just the man, I don't, you know, I bless him. 01:15:17.266 --> 01:15:17.867 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see you again. 01:15:19.989 --> 01:15:23.953 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, yeah, so you finished the bin line rate thanks for coming, medical retire. 01:15:23.973 --> 01:15:24.634 [SPEAKER_05]: Now what do we do? 01:15:26.996 --> 01:15:27.457 [SPEAKER_04]: I will gain. 01:15:28.198 --> 01:15:29.419 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we got to get an I will gain. 01:15:30.620 --> 01:15:32.282 [SPEAKER_05]: What, how did you do you want to up? 01:15:34.029 --> 01:15:37.650 [SPEAKER_04]: I did one of the IBM's, I did the Iboga in Costa Rica. 01:15:38.010 --> 01:15:39.311 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, that's a grand father. 01:15:39.331 --> 01:15:40.051 [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't good. 01:15:40.151 --> 01:15:40.671 [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't like it? 01:15:40.991 --> 01:15:45.473 [SPEAKER_04]: I like doing the Iboga in five in the old, it was a through vets at the time, Marcus. 01:15:45.613 --> 01:15:46.593 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I'll come in a barbecue. 01:15:46.853 --> 01:15:46.993 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:15:47.734 --> 01:15:50.395 [SPEAKER_04]: Like with your reputation and I had a fucking problem. 01:15:50.815 --> 01:15:53.476 [SPEAKER_04]: Something was wrong with me and I know your reputation. 01:15:53.576 --> 01:15:56.957 [SPEAKER_04]: As soon as I heard him say his story, I'm like, dude, I'm fucking in. 01:15:57.077 --> 01:16:02.019 [SPEAKER_04]: I would left right then a couple of weeks later, you know, vets, they've blown up now. 01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:02.439 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:16:03.499 --> 01:16:08.503 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a veteran's exploring treatment solution that's not vet's dot or vet's solutions. 01:16:08.543 --> 01:16:08.943 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 01:16:09.023 --> 01:16:09.884 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just a wife Amber. 01:16:10.144 --> 01:16:10.804 [SPEAKER_04]: Amber awesome. 01:16:10.944 --> 01:16:12.906 [SPEAKER_05]: There's people pipe better amazing people. 01:16:13.126 --> 01:16:15.047 [SPEAKER_04]: So they do vets and went over. 01:16:15.067 --> 01:16:17.809 [SPEAKER_04]: Did I be gained with them and that was great. 01:16:17.829 --> 01:16:18.490 [SPEAKER_04]: Did I be gained? 01:16:18.510 --> 01:16:19.350 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you be in Marcus? 01:16:19.591 --> 01:16:19.931 [SPEAKER_05]: Capon? 01:16:21.012 --> 01:16:21.512 [SPEAKER_04]: Marcus there. 01:16:21.532 --> 01:16:22.393 [SPEAKER_04]: I think Marcus was there. 01:16:22.433 --> 01:16:26.455 [SPEAKER_04]: But I had two green berets sitting with that fucking all night long man. 01:16:26.816 --> 01:16:28.317 [SPEAKER_05]: Can you explain the experience that I've again? 01:16:28.997 --> 01:16:30.498 [SPEAKER_04]: I began was pretty chill for me. 01:16:31.258 --> 01:16:39.023 [SPEAKER_04]: It, I thought it was gonna be more intense, and it was just more of a, it was showing me some things that I needed to see, but it wasn't like super, super intense. 01:16:39.043 --> 01:16:47.809 [SPEAKER_04]: I was at home and say I felt good the next day, like my brain function felt good, but it was a little disappointed with my overall psychedelic experience. 01:16:47.829 --> 01:16:48.009 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:16:48.890 --> 01:16:50.871 [SPEAKER_04]: Then they gave me a little something called five in the ODMT. 01:16:51.011 --> 01:16:51.471 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, they do. 01:16:51.491 --> 01:16:52.392 [SPEAKER_04]: And I was very naive. 01:16:52.652 --> 01:16:53.833 [SPEAKER_04]: Look, oh, this is just the second one. 01:16:55.110 --> 01:16:58.252 [SPEAKER_05]: That's five in me, it was the most powerful psychedelic in the universe. 01:16:58.292 --> 01:17:02.114 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm the fucking shit you took a hero, it does, didn't you? 01:17:02.134 --> 01:17:06.217 [SPEAKER_04]: I fucking experience what I think is death, I think that's what death will be like. 01:17:06.397 --> 01:17:19.445 [SPEAKER_04]: I have no other words to describe it, and when I came to, I felt like the 18 year old me that was unstoppable showing up to fucking buds, it was all the death off of my shoulders, all the weight off my shoulders, all the burdens off my shoulders, I was back. 01:17:19.710 --> 01:17:20.030 [SPEAKER_04]: Really? 01:17:20.050 --> 01:17:23.874 [SPEAKER_04]: I literally picked up the two fucking guys in the room and I'm fucking, I'm back. 01:17:23.914 --> 01:17:25.876 [SPEAKER_04]: It was like, I was in a movie. 01:17:25.956 --> 01:17:32.743 [SPEAKER_04]: It was like somebody had unplugged the fucking cord from the back of my head, right there in the Matrix, and I woke up, and I was like, where the fuck have I been? 01:17:33.664 --> 01:17:34.304 [SPEAKER_04]: Where have I been? 01:17:34.324 --> 01:17:37.287 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what the fuck has been going on with me? 01:17:37.727 --> 01:17:40.130 [SPEAKER_04]: Like somebody unplugged me, and I woke up, and I'm back, bitch. 01:17:40.170 --> 01:17:40.550 [SPEAKER_05]: Really? 01:17:40.570 --> 01:17:41.451 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm fucking back. 01:17:41.511 --> 01:17:42.772 [SPEAKER_05]: Holy shit, I didn't know that. 01:17:42.872 --> 01:17:43.633 [SPEAKER_04]: I felt like an angel. 01:17:43.913 --> 01:17:44.294 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:17:46.477 --> 01:17:53.949 [SPEAKER_05]: So death like what actually explain it like I can't put it in the words man So you take the big hit you lean back. 01:17:54.370 --> 01:18:00.780 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know I think I died I don't know what is that like here anything could you see it's like geometrical shapes yeah, and then I just he let go 01:18:03.265 --> 01:18:04.266 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have words for, man. 01:18:04.546 --> 01:18:06.208 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know how long it was or how it was quick? 01:18:06.268 --> 01:18:06.908 [SPEAKER_04]: Hell, let's quick. 01:18:06.928 --> 01:18:11.072 [SPEAKER_04]: Remember like, I felt the whole universe going from me. 01:18:11.732 --> 01:18:12.953 [SPEAKER_04]: I was hitting the ground so hard. 01:18:12.973 --> 01:18:14.175 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought I was going to break my hands. 01:18:14.295 --> 01:18:15.936 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh shit, so much energy going through me. 01:18:16.757 --> 01:18:19.039 [SPEAKER_04]: Then I just fucking, I came back, I came back to life. 01:18:19.139 --> 01:18:21.041 [SPEAKER_04]: And I fucking got up and I picked the dudes up too. 01:18:21.341 --> 01:18:23.703 [SPEAKER_04]: I saw the universe in the, in the one of the guys's teams. 01:18:24.283 --> 01:18:26.225 [SPEAKER_04]: The fuck does that mean it's all everything. 01:18:26.265 --> 01:18:27.046 [SPEAKER_04]: Everything's perfect. 01:18:27.486 --> 01:18:41.438 [SPEAKER_04]: The devil could have walked into the room and I would have but fucked him right there You know what I mean It was yeah Fucking good That's so nice to hear that because a lot of guys have had some shit It's not a lot of confidence in bad experiences. 01:18:41.458 --> 01:18:42.939 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk about my second experience. 01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:43.860 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh 01:18:44.200 --> 01:18:44.960 [SPEAKER_04]: that was terrible. 01:18:44.980 --> 01:18:50.864 [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, I stayed around to help for a while, the doctor, Dr. Martin, fucking love that guy. 01:18:51.124 --> 01:18:52.545 [SPEAKER_04]: He was me and him, like, a little team. 01:18:53.045 --> 01:18:56.707 [SPEAKER_04]: And though the therapist, I don't know, how many other people's names I should say. 01:18:58.330 --> 01:19:03.436 [SPEAKER_04]: a great team, great group of people with the doctors and the therapists and all that stuff. 01:19:03.456 --> 01:19:10.465 [SPEAKER_04]: I would just go back and sit because I mean, you're asking these special operations veterans to go to Mexico with these weird people, not weird people, but different people. 01:19:10.485 --> 01:19:11.246 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think fucking people. 01:19:11.266 --> 01:19:11.807 [SPEAKER_05]: The chanting. 01:19:12.528 --> 01:19:15.011 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to give you some drugs and Mexico and you're going to fucking take my kidneys. 01:19:16.082 --> 01:19:18.043 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that thought did cross my mind too. 01:19:18.363 --> 01:19:22.665 [SPEAKER_04]: So you have some special operators veterans sitting with you But you know, but he's gonna play with your boat. 01:19:24.046 --> 01:19:27.287 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, no It's called the extra. 01:19:27.327 --> 01:19:39.133 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah So I'd sit there and I'd go back as much as I possibly couldn't sit with you guys over and over again And there was some I learned my lesson once when I told somebody It's coming from the command of like it's gonna be great. 01:19:39.153 --> 01:19:42.554 [SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna have a great experience And I felt terrible. 01:19:42.574 --> 01:19:43.655 [SPEAKER_04]: He had a fucking terrible experience 01:19:43.928 --> 01:19:44.768 [SPEAKER_04]: But it was what he needed. 01:19:44.889 --> 01:19:46.910 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like you get what you need at the time, right? 01:19:46.930 --> 01:19:47.910 [SPEAKER_04]: So you never know what's going to be happy. 01:19:48.030 --> 01:19:50.712 [SPEAKER_04]: I've had a scene guys have conversations with God. 01:19:52.333 --> 01:19:54.754 [SPEAKER_04]: I know that sounds weird to say and you probably don't. 01:19:55.935 --> 01:19:57.035 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't. 01:19:57.215 --> 01:19:59.276 [SPEAKER_04]: Unless you've experienced what we're talking about. 01:19:59.537 --> 01:20:01.137 [SPEAKER_04]: It sounded, I know I sound like a fucking bitch. 01:20:01.158 --> 01:20:02.058 [SPEAKER_05]: It sounds crazy, I know. 01:20:02.598 --> 01:20:07.861 [SPEAKER_04]: I literally sat there and watched the guy have a conversation with God and I 100% believe you did. 01:20:07.921 --> 01:20:09.242 [SPEAKER_04]: This is not just in your fucking mind. 01:20:10.442 --> 01:20:32.061 [SPEAKER_05]: Until you've experienced something like that, you should probably just think about your judging when I say stuff like that, until you've experienced your experience, you better experience it for, it gave me the vibe, five Emio gave me the vibe of you're in the waiting room now and they're going to prep you for judgment like that's the vibe, because mine was more when I went in the last five, I've done a lot. 01:20:32.842 --> 01:20:36.705 [SPEAKER_05]: The last one was it was sort of a welcome back feeling. 01:20:37.606 --> 01:20:51.642 [SPEAKER_05]: you've been here a lot but not like you've been here a lot like the past year like you've been here and it wasn't a laughter because that would be a negative thought which you don't feel for me it's just a positivity it's more of an understanding if you know what this isn't you've been here and then it was an introduction to 01:20:54.164 --> 01:20:54.604 [SPEAKER_05]: Judgment. 01:20:54.984 --> 01:20:55.644 [SPEAKER_05]: And it was beautiful. 01:20:56.905 --> 01:20:57.965 [SPEAKER_05]: And I've never had a bag. 01:20:58.506 --> 01:21:00.487 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going again, December. 01:21:00.507 --> 01:21:01.447 [SPEAKER_04]: You get what you need, I feel. 01:21:01.767 --> 01:21:06.990 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the third time I went in for I began, not DMT, which is I think 15 times I've done. 01:21:08.010 --> 01:21:13.212 [SPEAKER_05]: I went in there with, I wanted to ask a demon as name, because I always see one demon one now. 01:21:13.312 --> 01:21:14.373 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a thousand. 01:21:15.774 --> 01:21:16.474 [SPEAKER_05]: You see some shit. 01:21:17.118 --> 01:21:17.618 [SPEAKER_04]: See some shit? 01:21:17.979 --> 01:21:21.281 [SPEAKER_04]: The second time I did it, I thought I was stuck in Purgatory for eternity. 01:21:21.761 --> 01:21:22.842 [SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck did that really mean? 01:21:23.182 --> 01:21:25.463 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought I was stuck somewhere where I really didn't want to be. 01:21:25.483 --> 01:21:25.984 [SPEAKER_04]: It was terrible. 01:21:26.564 --> 01:21:29.065 [SPEAKER_04]: And I thought I was stuck there for eternity. 01:21:29.306 --> 01:21:30.927 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what is for every eternity? 01:21:31.107 --> 01:21:32.027 [SPEAKER_04]: Wrap your mind around. 01:21:32.047 --> 01:21:34.249 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, for I'm here forever. 01:21:34.389 --> 01:21:36.770 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm never getting out of here. 01:21:37.731 --> 01:21:38.872 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm and I don't want to be here. 01:21:38.972 --> 01:21:39.312 [SPEAKER_04]: It was of 01:21:39.875 --> 01:21:55.299 [SPEAKER_05]: eternity is if you if you start counting at the beginning of your life and you keep counting and of thinking of counting if you start thinking of the highest number by the time you die in your 80s or 90s you're closer to zero than you are to eternity. 01:21:55.339 --> 01:22:01.481 [SPEAKER_05]: If you think about the vastness that's why the whole thing with with God is like eternity is a long time to be wrong. 01:22:02.921 --> 01:22:03.521 [SPEAKER_05]: So that sucked. 01:22:03.781 --> 01:22:06.522 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah because what do you I mean did you lose track of time in there? 01:22:07.763 --> 01:22:09.825 [SPEAKER_05]: So you're just think you're in it was a void forever. 01:22:09.885 --> 01:22:10.746 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a void forever. 01:22:10.986 --> 01:22:14.249 [SPEAKER_04]: Could that be hell, but what does he have to show me how much I actually want to live? 01:22:14.950 --> 01:22:21.736 [SPEAKER_04]: Because as soon as I saw this little speck of white to where I can escape, it's a kind of shot the fuck out of this tunnel when I came back. 01:22:21.776 --> 01:22:22.657 [SPEAKER_04]: What was the speck of light? 01:22:22.677 --> 01:22:25.080 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, just kind of where it was happening all happened so fast. 01:22:25.140 --> 01:22:28.483 [SPEAKER_04]: I just remember being stuck in this void thinking, holy fuck I'm stuck here forever. 01:22:29.604 --> 01:22:30.965 [SPEAKER_04]: And it was what that's for. 01:22:31.025 --> 01:22:31.786 [SPEAKER_04]: It was horrifying. 01:22:32.006 --> 01:22:32.727 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm here forever. 01:22:34.547 --> 01:22:40.992 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, and then once I saw a little bit of an escape light, and I was just fucking, what did you do when you came to me? 01:22:41.052 --> 01:22:41.813 [SPEAKER_05]: So the mask on. 01:22:41.833 --> 01:22:45.996 [SPEAKER_04]: I had just, it was a weird experience coming back. 01:22:46.016 --> 01:22:48.418 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have the, you fork experience after that. 01:22:48.478 --> 01:22:55.503 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, it was kind of like I wasn't still back on in this realm, it was a kind of thing. 01:22:55.543 --> 01:22:58.646 [SPEAKER_04]: I did like go outside and bury myself in the earth a little bit just to be. 01:22:58.766 --> 01:22:59.707 [SPEAKER_04]: It was quite the experience. 01:22:59.727 --> 01:23:01.388 [SPEAKER_04]: The one was a, that one fucked me up a little bit. 01:23:01.743 --> 01:23:06.689 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I saw you soon after that and you were still processing a lot of shit. 01:23:06.710 --> 01:23:07.470 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot to process. 01:23:07.931 --> 01:23:08.972 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the void is... 01:23:08.992 --> 01:23:11.616 [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't touched it since. 01:23:12.056 --> 01:23:12.617 [SPEAKER_05]: No, you haven't. 01:23:12.898 --> 01:23:13.659 [SPEAKER_05]: Probably never again. 01:23:13.679 --> 01:23:13.899 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe. 01:23:14.480 --> 01:23:15.381 [SPEAKER_05]: That void. 01:23:15.421 --> 01:23:16.983 [SPEAKER_05]: Because I know the feeling... 01:23:18.894 --> 01:23:27.479 [SPEAKER_05]: When you first blast off, you take the hit and you blast off is scary because every time I'm thinking shit, I just died, I'm going to miss everybody. 01:23:28.059 --> 01:23:33.002 [SPEAKER_05]: For me, you do lose track of time, so it's probably three, four seconds, feels like all the time. 01:23:33.022 --> 01:23:36.684 [SPEAKER_05]: But then when I get into the Zen, then everyone's there with me. 01:23:37.724 --> 01:23:40.365 [SPEAKER_04]: I think you felt like I went up, and I went back to the void, huh? 01:23:41.546 --> 01:23:41.826 [UNKNOWN]: Fuck. 01:23:41.846 --> 01:23:42.467 [SPEAKER_04]: That was a good. 01:23:43.027 --> 01:23:43.647 [SPEAKER_04]: We haven't the thing. 01:23:43.687 --> 01:23:46.849 [SPEAKER_04]: First time I died, I was like, oh no, I died and I fuck this whole program out for everybody. 01:23:49.458 --> 01:23:50.960 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not the only thing about other people. 01:23:51.580 --> 01:23:53.582 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that's what was death that I died. 01:23:54.203 --> 01:23:54.743 [SPEAKER_05]: But then die. 01:23:54.964 --> 01:23:55.484 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm great. 01:23:56.545 --> 01:23:58.667 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think that's a learning experience or not that you're back? 01:23:59.889 --> 01:24:00.389 [SPEAKER_04]: I love it. 01:24:00.409 --> 01:24:02.231 [SPEAKER_04]: It showed me how much I really wanted to live. 01:24:02.391 --> 01:24:04.353 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I think it's just not something to play around with. 01:24:06.263 --> 01:24:08.745 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, okay, you can do this, but I'm hoping it's a tool. 01:24:08.905 --> 01:24:26.940 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm hoping to find that out, because I'm going back the fourth time for I begin for anger, because I went for the booze and I quit to backo and drinking, didn't mean to the tobacco thing quit that shit and now the anger and hope, I like, I think I began in the MCU will be part of my life forever, but I kind of wanted to just be done with it. 01:24:27.100 --> 01:24:30.282 [SPEAKER_04]: It'll always be there, but it's also I can be lazy with things sometimes. 01:24:30.302 --> 01:24:30.963 [SPEAKER_04]: It will show me. 01:24:32.403 --> 01:24:33.203 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you have a comeback? 01:24:33.363 --> 01:24:34.104 [SPEAKER_05]: What is on the feeling? 01:24:34.224 --> 01:24:37.445 [SPEAKER_04]: I was so excited the first time it was such a great experience. 01:24:37.465 --> 01:24:39.625 [SPEAKER_04]: I was feeling it when you told me how great it is. 01:24:40.106 --> 01:24:41.606 [SPEAKER_04]: I know I, I could get addicted to that. 01:24:42.006 --> 01:24:42.707 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just feeling it. 01:24:42.727 --> 01:24:43.247 [SPEAKER_04]: Give me that. 01:24:43.327 --> 01:24:43.767 [SPEAKER_04]: Give me that. 01:24:44.567 --> 01:24:47.908 [SPEAKER_04]: But you also have this flip side for like that was the worst experience of my entire life. 01:24:48.188 --> 01:24:49.369 [SPEAKER_04]: So now it shows me that. 01:24:49.449 --> 01:24:51.109 [SPEAKER_05]: It is all encompassing too. 01:24:51.189 --> 01:24:52.010 [SPEAKER_04]: It is all fucking scared. 01:24:52.050 --> 01:24:52.470 [SPEAKER_05]: You're there. 01:24:52.770 --> 01:24:55.771 [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's different levels, like you can do some mushrooms with a mimp, some mimp in the M.A. 01:24:55.791 --> 01:25:10.377 [SPEAKER_04]: Right, you can do some ketamine, which is maybe okay, some mushrooms, or you can go, you can go big, I've never done high wasca, there's all these different, I want to see, or mushrooms, I like the solar side and mushrooms, and the M.D.M.A. 01:25:10.397 --> 01:25:10.777 [SPEAKER_05]: is great. 01:25:11.958 --> 01:25:13.019 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a chili out. 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:13.619 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, let go. 01:25:13.839 --> 01:25:19.785 [SPEAKER_05]: It's, well, that's the thing is I think you need to give into it and trust and be in a place that you can trust. 01:25:20.206 --> 01:25:27.012 [SPEAKER_05]: I like Ambeo because they got a dude down there that administers it was a black belt and just in case you need to be just safe. 01:25:27.232 --> 01:25:28.153 [SPEAKER_05]: He can make you safe. 01:25:28.233 --> 01:25:29.214 [SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's really good. 01:25:30.275 --> 01:25:42.400 [SPEAKER_05]: It's crazy too, because I've watched guys, I wouldn't recommend watching guys do five Emmy-yield before you do it, because I remember in the first guy doing it that I thought didn't like me at all, and unlike when he's having a bad trip, this is going to end the program. 01:25:42.801 --> 01:25:47.783 [SPEAKER_05]: Fuck, he's going to fuck me up, and then he finished and he came over and hug me, he was just he said I couldn't smile, but now I can smile. 01:25:47.843 --> 01:25:48.823 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's true, like that. 01:25:49.484 --> 01:25:56.927 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, you know what I took out of it was the experiences that other people have had at war. 01:25:58.070 --> 01:26:10.925 [SPEAKER_05]: when the dudes have seen some shit and see a theme six to not have the most dangerous job in the war and to talk to some of those guys who did some of those fucking green parades that went lived in the shit for a year and a half at a time 01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:15.402 [SPEAKER_05]: nowhere support driving on these like those fucking dudes are out there amongst it. 01:26:15.522 --> 01:26:17.723 [SPEAKER_05]: We ran into them at Tolkien Gate in South of J. 01:26:17.743 --> 01:26:18.024 [SPEAKER_05]: Bad. 01:26:18.784 --> 01:26:20.005 [SPEAKER_05]: Just fucking out there. 01:26:20.566 --> 01:26:21.166 [SPEAKER_05]: They have some shit. 01:26:21.326 --> 01:26:22.847 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we were pretty fortunate. 01:26:23.708 --> 01:26:24.969 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we're fine on our own terms. 01:26:25.029 --> 01:26:25.269 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 01:26:25.670 --> 01:26:29.352 [SPEAKER_05]: And, and I mean, as a team leader, we have three team leaders per troop. 01:26:29.372 --> 01:26:32.555 [SPEAKER_05]: You have three team leaders for a reason, because if two of us haven't gone, we're not going. 01:26:32.835 --> 01:26:34.837 [SPEAKER_05]: It's literally we could vote on our missions. 01:26:35.724 --> 01:26:47.450 [SPEAKER_05]: Army doing that shit and re-certainly doing that shit right just go out when the when the fucking captain says they're going out to go out every night But that was so what do you're what moving forward is it is a chill now or how does it feel? 01:26:48.411 --> 01:26:57.214 [SPEAKER_04]: I use other tools and I always know that tool will be there if I need it and maybe I do need a little refresher, but I know I have good people that I can call on. 01:26:57.354 --> 01:27:07.497 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, some of the people do like Marcus the Trump Marcus Capone, some of the guys are here, Clint Emerson, while interior to come down just to go, not even do the messages to go to the swim buddy. 01:27:07.877 --> 01:27:08.618 [SPEAKER_05]: That's cool. 01:27:08.678 --> 01:27:09.218 [SPEAKER_05]: It does help. 01:27:09.778 --> 01:27:15.240 [SPEAKER_05]: First time I went, I didn't want to go with other vets because I wanted to share the whole thing and I didn't want people, whatever. 01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:25.544 [SPEAKER_05]: So I went to their detox house for drug addicts and I went with a married couple who was addicted to heroin and I watched both of them get cured overnight. 01:27:25.804 --> 01:27:26.564 [SPEAKER_04]: How crazy is that? 01:27:27.139 --> 01:27:28.040 [SPEAKER_05]: And the woman was pissed. 01:27:28.060 --> 01:27:30.121 [SPEAKER_05]: She didn't have any hallucinations. 01:27:30.762 --> 01:27:32.683 [SPEAKER_05]: And the doc was just just sleep for 12 hours. 01:27:32.703 --> 01:27:33.604 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, it worked. 01:27:34.105 --> 01:27:34.885 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you want heroin? 01:27:34.965 --> 01:27:35.466 [SPEAKER_05]: It worked. 01:27:35.926 --> 01:27:39.489 [SPEAKER_04]: There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no with trolls or something. 01:27:39.549 --> 01:27:39.989 [SPEAKER_05]: She didn't want it. 01:27:40.009 --> 01:27:41.350 [SPEAKER_05]: One of the guys is dope sickers. 01:27:41.390 --> 01:27:41.991 [SPEAKER_05]: I get a mat like, 01:27:42.471 --> 01:27:43.792 [SPEAKER_05]: I know Apple would draw suck. 01:27:43.852 --> 01:27:45.073 [SPEAKER_05]: I can imagine heroin with you. 01:27:45.113 --> 01:27:45.473 [SPEAKER_04]: Seriously. 01:27:45.653 --> 01:27:45.833 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:27:45.913 --> 01:27:48.935 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's what the doctor, Dr. Martine, he's like, I love working with you guys. 01:27:48.955 --> 01:27:54.458 [SPEAKER_04]: Because he would work with all the drug addict kids that don't want to be there, and he like, okay, they've run away. 01:27:54.478 --> 01:27:55.339 [SPEAKER_04]: They don't want to fucking be here. 01:27:56.259 --> 01:27:57.060 [SPEAKER_04]: You guys want to be here. 01:27:57.280 --> 01:27:58.381 [SPEAKER_04]: You guys want to get help. 01:27:58.621 --> 01:27:59.802 [SPEAKER_04]: I love working with you guys. 01:27:59.822 --> 01:28:02.163 [SPEAKER_04]: So you have to want to get fixed. 01:28:02.183 --> 01:28:02.803 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a tool. 01:28:03.044 --> 01:28:06.786 [SPEAKER_04]: If you don't want the fucking, if you don't want, yeah, if you have the most of your, you got it. 01:28:06.806 --> 01:28:07.806 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you do have the water. 01:28:07.946 --> 01:28:12.089 [SPEAKER_04]: And set yourself up for success afterwards as well, because if you're going back in the same environment, 01:28:12.722 --> 01:28:21.948 [SPEAKER_05]: You need to, the thing with the eye began is you get you in a system for eye, me as two months, but you can really reach, I need it too, because I feel unorganized, but like you get too much to schedule your shit. 01:28:23.409 --> 01:28:33.515 [SPEAKER_05]: But like what I've done so like with the drinking thing now that I'm well over a year of no drinking, it's like, I had a real on what hobbies I like, because I, I thought I liked it much, no, I like drinking with people. 01:28:33.535 --> 01:28:35.196 [SPEAKER_05]: And I thought I had a different drink about it. 01:28:35.556 --> 01:28:36.517 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get you to have some juice. 01:28:37.447 --> 01:28:38.527 [SPEAKER_05]: I need to get back in the shit. 01:28:38.587 --> 01:28:39.367 [SPEAKER_05]: I've been playing chess. 01:28:39.768 --> 01:28:40.848 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:28:40.868 --> 01:28:42.688 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, that's my idea. 01:28:42.748 --> 01:28:42.908 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:28:42.948 --> 01:28:43.288 [SPEAKER_05]: Same kind. 01:28:43.308 --> 01:28:44.229 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a little different. 01:28:44.269 --> 01:28:45.189 [SPEAKER_04]: How, what is different? 01:28:45.209 --> 01:28:46.109 [SPEAKER_05]: You're a year purple doll. 01:28:46.429 --> 01:28:47.009 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a purple doll. 01:28:47.029 --> 01:28:47.649 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, how's that going? 01:28:47.930 --> 01:28:48.610 [SPEAKER_04]: It's good, I love it. 01:28:48.730 --> 01:28:49.550 [SPEAKER_04]: It's my happy place. 01:28:49.670 --> 01:28:50.310 [SPEAKER_04]: My new team room. 01:28:50.470 --> 01:28:51.150 [SPEAKER_04]: It's awesome. 01:28:51.290 --> 01:28:51.670 [SPEAKER_04]: Good people. 01:28:51.710 --> 01:28:52.311 [SPEAKER_05]: How many guys are all? 01:28:53.371 --> 01:28:54.051 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a pretty big jump. 01:28:54.111 --> 01:28:54.291 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:28:54.431 --> 01:28:55.111 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'd stand up. 01:28:55.131 --> 01:28:57.212 [SPEAKER_04]: They got judo and cool and they had all kinds. 01:28:57.232 --> 01:28:57.692 [SPEAKER_04]: I got a plus. 01:28:57.712 --> 01:28:59.252 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I got my boy who's 10 months old. 01:28:59.272 --> 01:29:00.813 [SPEAKER_05]: I had to get him to stand up off the bat. 01:29:00.833 --> 01:29:01.693 [SPEAKER_05]: I need to teach him as well. 01:29:01.733 --> 01:29:02.173 [SPEAKER_05]: Watch his man. 01:29:03.712 --> 01:29:04.693 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, jitz is good. 01:29:05.173 --> 01:29:12.498 [SPEAKER_05]: I got I got sour on jitz who wouldn't be the role with team guys in green team Yeah, cuz they're not even white belts are gonna break it fucking on I don't want to stop right here. 01:29:12.518 --> 01:29:18.482 [SPEAKER_04]: So mistakes I made I roll with the white belt 20-year-old wrestler kid Oh, and next thing you know my ankles are fucked up 01:29:18.562 --> 01:29:22.546 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the wrestlers are studs, they're centered about and they're aggression. 01:29:22.566 --> 01:29:25.308 [SPEAKER_04]: You try to throw me in and you're not going to throw me, but you try to throw me in next thing. 01:29:25.328 --> 01:29:31.174 [SPEAKER_04]: You know I'm all I'm fucking hurt, you can't know, but the guy with my professor who owns the gym, he's a vet. 01:29:31.494 --> 01:29:32.375 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he's amazing. 01:29:32.395 --> 01:29:32.775 [SPEAKER_04]: He's been around. 01:29:32.795 --> 01:29:33.716 [SPEAKER_04]: He's just fucking. 01:29:33.736 --> 01:29:35.958 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just, you know, the kind of person you find that you deserve. 01:29:36.258 --> 01:29:40.041 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, now have you mentioned one of our guys is our first collective? 01:29:40.762 --> 01:29:56.494 [SPEAKER_05]: Scott O's sealed him two guy, but he's a fourth degree black belt now So he was I was a team two with him in the 90s and then he got out before 9-11 Which he's still regrets because you never know but he was injured you just knew in the early 90s and he just kept doing that So he's up to him in the Daniel Martin's one of the operators too. 01:29:56.894 --> 01:29:57.535 [SPEAKER_05]: She's a black belt 01:29:58.055 --> 01:30:01.758 [SPEAKER_05]: And she's a threat because she used to roll with teammates, she's on the west coast. 01:30:02.078 --> 01:30:06.762 [SPEAKER_05]: And she would have to explain to them, you didn't just lose to a girl, you lost to a black belt. 01:30:06.942 --> 01:30:09.604 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what happens with the superpower called Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. 01:30:09.624 --> 01:30:10.045 [SPEAKER_05]: Isn't that dope? 01:30:10.285 --> 01:30:10.885 [SPEAKER_04]: It is a super bird. 01:30:10.905 --> 01:30:13.527 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we're going to be out there in Vegas and Scott and Danielle will be there. 01:30:13.547 --> 01:30:14.948 [SPEAKER_05]: So that'll be a fun time. 01:30:15.048 --> 01:30:15.869 [SPEAKER_05]: We're teaching 01:30:17.150 --> 01:30:32.108 [SPEAKER_05]: The course they have is on the unit to get involved with deeply or bigly depending on that is is the intimate close quarters fighting that we're teaching and the way we're designing that is and because with jujitsu with three hours of jujitsu you're going to learn how to do a guillotine. 01:30:33.009 --> 01:30:37.711 [SPEAKER_05]: How to sweep, but our course is you will learn how to win a knife item the back of an Uber. 01:30:38.331 --> 01:30:38.892 [SPEAKER_05]: That's right. 01:30:39.092 --> 01:30:42.013 [SPEAKER_05]: That's got says that nobody wants to fight a monkey with a screwdriver. 01:30:43.133 --> 01:30:43.734 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's good. 01:30:43.754 --> 01:30:45.234 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's going to be no vambler. 01:30:45.254 --> 01:30:45.615 [SPEAKER_05]: That's funny. 01:30:45.655 --> 01:30:46.755 [SPEAKER_05]: I guess we're looking forward to that. 01:30:46.775 --> 01:30:47.615 [SPEAKER_05]: And then that's what we're doing. 01:30:47.875 --> 01:30:48.736 [SPEAKER_05]: How's the speaking going? 01:30:48.756 --> 01:30:49.396 [SPEAKER_05]: We will get. 01:30:49.416 --> 01:30:50.276 [SPEAKER_05]: That's it. 01:30:50.397 --> 01:30:50.937 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a good one. 01:30:51.757 --> 01:30:58.346 [SPEAKER_04]: What just for people listening that higher speakers, what's what's your theme when you get on stage with finding purpose? 01:30:58.767 --> 01:30:59.187 [SPEAKER_04]: That's hard. 01:30:59.267 --> 01:31:01.590 [SPEAKER_04]: Once you find purpose never quit always be flexible though. 01:31:01.610 --> 01:31:03.173 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't be the guy says this is what we're going to do. 01:31:03.213 --> 01:31:03.713 [SPEAKER_04]: It's always been. 01:31:05.135 --> 01:31:08.540 [SPEAKER_04]: You can have that purpose and have that goal that you never quit on but be flexible. 01:31:09.220 --> 01:31:11.142 [SPEAKER_04]: And teamwork and communication. 01:31:11.222 --> 01:31:13.184 [SPEAKER_04]: Teamwork, I mean, come on man, we couldn't have done it. 01:31:13.264 --> 01:31:18.068 [SPEAKER_04]: So not just even with the seal team, they took the whole, we've been talking about this for a couple hours now. 01:31:18.108 --> 01:31:21.551 [SPEAKER_04]: And then the communication, yeah, she moved communicate, right? 01:31:21.691 --> 01:31:22.652 [SPEAKER_04]: Those are, you have to. 01:31:22.912 --> 01:31:26.195 [SPEAKER_04]: And now, well, I bring in the dog thing, because don't speak no English. 01:31:26.575 --> 01:31:27.736 [SPEAKER_05]: No, you don't speak English. 01:31:27.796 --> 01:31:27.936 [SPEAKER_05]: No? 01:31:28.057 --> 01:31:30.619 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's all about body language. 01:31:30.759 --> 01:31:34.922 [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever you want to say, so it's how to use your body language, really like check yourself. 01:31:35.983 --> 01:31:39.686 [SPEAKER_04]: I learned a lot in my hand and I know we talked about sniper school, about some of the good courses that we went to. 01:31:40.266 --> 01:31:42.767 [SPEAKER_04]: Being a dog handler, I can be an asshole sometimes. 01:31:43.928 --> 01:31:48.691 [SPEAKER_04]: It makes me think about how hard it is to train a dog to go to war, do the job that we do. 01:31:49.211 --> 01:31:54.675 [SPEAKER_04]: And I can take all of the years and years of training to get him ready to go to war because I'm an asshole having one bad day. 01:31:55.415 --> 01:31:56.756 [SPEAKER_04]: I can take him and I can put him down here. 01:31:57.697 --> 01:31:59.778 [SPEAKER_04]: So really like learning to check myself. 01:32:00.138 --> 01:32:04.001 [SPEAKER_05]: That's easier so that it doesn't make any way easier, seven way easier. 01:32:04.121 --> 01:32:04.822 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm an asshole. 01:32:04.922 --> 01:32:05.703 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a dick. 01:32:05.883 --> 01:32:07.424 [SPEAKER_05]: I need to talk to myself out loud. 01:32:07.444 --> 01:32:10.567 [SPEAKER_04]: Whether it's like, you know, take five minutes, take ten minutes, take it. 01:32:10.587 --> 01:32:13.349 [SPEAKER_04]: Take the whole day off, and as I take the whole day off, we're training to go to war. 01:32:13.389 --> 01:32:15.010 [SPEAKER_04]: You know how hard it is to take a whole bit. 01:32:15.030 --> 01:32:21.215 [SPEAKER_04]: But if you're not conducting proper training, you're just hurting me. 01:32:22.076 --> 01:32:28.881 [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, that's the base of just, and then I'll dabble in the mental health side for the right, that's a big one. 01:32:30.619 --> 01:32:31.900 [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody goes through hard times, man. 01:32:32.460 --> 01:32:33.981 [SPEAKER_04]: You can't appreciate the good without the bed. 01:32:34.341 --> 01:32:36.062 [SPEAKER_04]: You can't enjoy a lot of that. 01:32:36.162 --> 01:32:36.462 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:32:36.482 --> 01:32:38.504 [SPEAKER_05]: You really got to, that's something in life too. 01:32:38.544 --> 01:32:40.565 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm good at giving advice, but not following it. 01:32:40.585 --> 01:32:46.128 [SPEAKER_05]: But like, if you take a second and put yourself in someone else's shoes and realize they're going through some shit that you don't know, back off. 01:32:46.168 --> 01:32:47.409 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't lay off the horn and traffic. 01:32:47.749 --> 01:32:51.171 [SPEAKER_05]: Or even if you get out to fight someone and road ridges say, you know what? 01:32:51.191 --> 01:32:51.571 [SPEAKER_05]: My bad. 01:32:52.919 --> 01:32:53.320 [SPEAKER_04]: It's real hard. 01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:54.440 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm never going to see you again. 01:32:54.460 --> 01:32:55.701 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a real hard thing to do. 01:32:55.761 --> 01:32:56.242 [SPEAKER_05]: It is tough. 01:32:56.822 --> 01:32:58.043 [SPEAKER_05]: But with that anger, too, that's it. 01:32:58.283 --> 01:33:00.866 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's got to be the PTSD from combat. 01:33:02.046 --> 01:33:08.552 [SPEAKER_05]: Like when I yell at one of my accounts, like you're mean, I'm like, yeah, I must be of the fucking murder in front of family members at night in their bedroom. 01:33:09.012 --> 01:33:09.432 [SPEAKER_05]: That's it. 01:33:10.173 --> 01:33:11.234 [SPEAKER_05]: And then I go, do I begin to end? 01:33:13.195 --> 01:33:14.596 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, that's cool. 01:33:15.237 --> 01:33:18.319 [SPEAKER_05]: The effect of communication, that the CQB that we're going to be teaching, too, is more. 01:33:22.310 --> 01:33:24.471 [SPEAKER_05]: Just keep it, you're making it too hard. 01:33:24.491 --> 01:33:25.852 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't talk yourself into an asswub. 01:33:27.092 --> 01:33:37.277 [SPEAKER_05]: The one that was profound, it's the only thing sick for me was when we were trying to do the parallel hallways because the decinfliction coming into each other, it could be a room in the middle and you don't know how to do it and do it to the camera, do we knock on the dirt? 01:33:37.377 --> 01:33:39.058 [SPEAKER_05]: It's now blah blah, no, because it's gonna know. 01:33:39.519 --> 01:33:40.739 [SPEAKER_05]: And then it's like, okay, here's the new rule. 01:33:40.759 --> 01:33:41.860 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't shoot someone who looks like you. 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:47.783 [SPEAKER_05]: That took, that got rid of 20 stupid rules, like to say if you think of the new regulation, not just don't shoot them. 01:33:48.103 --> 01:33:48.323 [SPEAKER_05]: People. 01:33:48.383 --> 01:33:50.684 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why it just shouldn't know that you're fine. 01:33:51.064 --> 01:33:52.985 [SPEAKER_05]: So we'd rep so much as we'd probably put in the work. 01:33:53.386 --> 01:33:57.848 [SPEAKER_05]: And then I liked our debriefs because we weren't big into talking about how awesome it were. 01:33:58.128 --> 01:33:59.469 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to hear three things you fucked up. 01:33:59.549 --> 01:34:00.329 [SPEAKER_04]: Peroidal. 01:34:00.549 --> 01:34:01.270 [SPEAKER_04]: Tell me what you're fucked up. 01:34:01.290 --> 01:34:02.470 [SPEAKER_04]: I almost killed this tonight. 01:34:03.231 --> 01:34:04.191 [SPEAKER_04]: That's not fun. 01:34:04.371 --> 01:34:05.132 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, that wasn't good. 01:34:05.172 --> 01:34:06.052 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's my bad. 01:34:06.933 --> 01:34:07.613 [SPEAKER_05]: They were good though. 01:34:07.653 --> 01:34:08.653 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the debriefs in training. 01:34:09.694 --> 01:34:10.654 [SPEAKER_05]: The debriefs in a recording. 01:34:12.099 --> 01:34:14.180 [SPEAKER_04]: That's weird. 01:34:14.300 --> 01:34:18.663 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, speaking to these good things, we're going to be doing that too with the operative collective. 01:34:18.683 --> 01:34:23.186 [SPEAKER_05]: What else, because we're coming up on time here, what else is out that you want to talk about? 01:34:23.566 --> 01:34:28.229 [SPEAKER_04]: And then speaking, training, family, family. 01:34:29.230 --> 01:34:30.090 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's my new thing. 01:34:30.110 --> 01:34:33.332 [SPEAKER_05]: I heard someone the other day when someone said, what do you do for a living, he said, I'm a father. 01:34:34.733 --> 01:34:37.675 [SPEAKER_05]: Everything else that I'm doing enables me to be a father. 01:34:37.695 --> 01:34:38.155 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to be a father. 01:34:38.175 --> 01:34:38.615 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to be a father. 01:34:38.635 --> 01:34:39.076 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to be a father. 01:34:39.096 --> 01:34:39.616 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to be a father. 01:34:41.266 --> 01:34:43.009 [SPEAKER_05]: He's not gonna be a baby forever, you gotta enjoy the moments. 01:34:43.229 --> 01:34:45.031 [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of our teammates that are not here anymore. 01:34:45.472 --> 01:34:47.214 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I don't take that for granted. 01:34:47.995 --> 01:34:49.536 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I named my son after Rob Reeves. 01:34:49.716 --> 01:34:50.136 [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. 01:34:50.356 --> 01:34:53.778 [SPEAKER_05]: And he was the one, when people, Jesus, I'm a crying, yeah. 01:34:53.838 --> 01:34:54.118 [SPEAKER_05]: I know. 01:34:55.019 --> 01:35:05.144 [SPEAKER_05]: So when I went to his house after the bin Laden raid, before it starts, obviously, and he poured a glass of wine from self and I was a raging alcohol at the time, and I didn't take a glass of wine with him. 01:35:05.164 --> 01:35:09.587 [SPEAKER_05]: And he took his and he looked at me and said, one of these days, a lot of us are going to die on one of those hellcums. 01:35:10.007 --> 01:35:11.488 [SPEAKER_05]: Profound, I didn't have that glass of wine. 01:35:12.447 --> 01:35:14.448 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think Rod Reef from me, I don't make check for you. 01:35:15.169 --> 01:35:17.711 [SPEAKER_05]: Rod Reef's was the best Navy see I don't remember. 01:35:17.751 --> 01:35:18.491 [SPEAKER_05]: Everything was perfect. 01:35:19.032 --> 01:35:20.092 [SPEAKER_04]: Surrounded by a bunch of pipe it. 01:35:20.132 --> 01:35:22.314 [SPEAKER_05]: Dude, I was like, well, why don't you do it? 01:35:22.374 --> 01:35:23.475 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I had it like that again. 01:35:23.495 --> 01:35:25.016 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I can do anything like you know what? 01:35:25.676 --> 01:35:27.117 [SPEAKER_05]: That's probably a bad idea, isn't it? 01:35:27.137 --> 01:35:27.577 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it is. 01:35:28.158 --> 01:35:29.379 [SPEAKER_05]: Where are you so handsome, too? 01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:29.639 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 01:35:32.064 --> 01:35:48.453 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, like I think about the dudes like Dick Chack and Kevin Houston and and Robert reason and and Lou Langliss and Matt Mills and and going down the list of all the fucking guys badger and and my coke and The best dudes we have survivors guilty of the rule thing too man. 01:35:48.654 --> 01:35:55.838 [SPEAKER_04]: I remember complain like I don't want to leave the squadron I don't want to leave the squadron and the team leader the dogs shut the fuck up Survivors kill an honor 01:35:57.230 --> 01:35:57.690 [SPEAKER_04]: to do that. 01:35:58.270 --> 01:36:04.491 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, the owl, it's always looked up to him, like, shut the fuck up, Nick went, he died. 01:36:05.932 --> 01:36:06.172 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:36:06.732 --> 01:36:06.912 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:36:08.112 --> 01:36:12.273 [SPEAKER_05]: I think survivors' guilt isn't big one, too, for a lot of the vet on vet hate that we see now, too. 01:36:12.333 --> 01:36:22.895 [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of guys have seen the guilt with the gun, like, not to bring up the, you know, Britsalinsky's got some of the worst survivors' guilt he was on talking to a guard with Chapman, and that's a huge event right now that I wasn't there for that. 01:36:22.915 --> 01:36:23.495 [SPEAKER_05]: You weren't there for that. 01:36:23.515 --> 01:36:24.335 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to get into that. 01:36:25.111 --> 01:36:45.715 [SPEAKER_05]: I've seen it, he told me the story and the look in his eyes, the survivor's guilt, and there's survivors who will guys didn't go on certain things, and guys on the warnt on extortion that left and you know, it sucks, everything, you know, the whole, I'm hoping, and I'm talking too much because I'm talking to you, but like the eye began to find me, you know, the healing process. 01:36:45.735 --> 01:36:53.197 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that if veterans, if we can put ourselves in someone else's shoe and realize, like, man, we, we move forward together, successful take care of itself, 01:36:53.559 --> 01:36:54.980 [SPEAKER_04]: I wish we would have that stuff in the team room. 01:36:55.320 --> 01:36:57.561 [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody, everybody could see those going downhill. 01:36:57.701 --> 01:36:58.942 [SPEAKER_05]: It was all the guys about, hey, come on. 01:36:59.102 --> 01:37:00.443 [SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna go back into this conference room. 01:37:01.884 --> 01:37:03.705 [SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna do this a little, a little treatment for a second. 01:37:04.405 --> 01:37:06.026 [SPEAKER_04]: And we're like, oh, hey, look at that, I'm back. 01:37:06.186 --> 01:37:09.368 [SPEAKER_05]: I remember morale was in the shitter before that it was. 01:37:09.388 --> 01:37:10.328 [SPEAKER_05]: It was really bad. 01:37:10.508 --> 01:37:11.869 [SPEAKER_05]: It was, I think guys were burned out. 01:37:11.889 --> 01:37:12.669 [SPEAKER_05]: We weren't admitting it. 01:37:13.390 --> 01:37:16.692 [SPEAKER_05]: And I remember being normal to being a gunfight. 01:37:17.832 --> 01:37:19.653 [SPEAKER_05]: Two days later, we'd be home in a four-year-old birthday party. 01:37:20.734 --> 01:37:21.374 [SPEAKER_05]: And that was normal. 01:37:25.368 --> 01:37:30.810 [SPEAKER_05]: Like watching a dude shoot you just fucking kill people that I'm normal just insane. 01:37:31.490 --> 01:37:40.613 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah if we could have done the mental health thing to instead of the rubsome dirt on it I think we would have been a lot better off because I think you can do a high-begin and psychic delish without being a pussy like you you got a man up to do that shit. 01:37:41.613 --> 01:37:42.013 [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck yeah. 01:37:42.653 --> 01:37:42.833 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 01:37:44.094 --> 01:37:46.194 [SPEAKER_04]: It was the scariest experience I've ever had. 01:37:46.254 --> 01:37:48.255 [SPEAKER_05]: It takes over everything you know and see and smell. 01:37:49.655 --> 01:37:51.476 [SPEAKER_04]: Like the loud universe go through my body. 01:37:51.556 --> 01:37:58.398 [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever, however you want to comprehend that, everything in the whole fucking world, every person, every scream, every body part. 01:37:58.678 --> 01:37:59.099 [SPEAKER_05]: It's crazy. 01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:04.341 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how to put it in the words, but yeah, it was not something that I want to have. 01:38:04.481 --> 01:38:06.081 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a recreational drug, I would say. 01:38:06.421 --> 01:38:07.482 [SPEAKER_05]: How about that when they say, too? 01:38:07.522 --> 01:38:08.762 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I begin to club drug. 01:38:09.343 --> 01:38:10.083 [SPEAKER_04]: Good luck. 01:38:11.163 --> 01:38:14.625 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, yeah, I begin to lay the fuck down in the music's play and we have doctors here. 01:38:15.145 --> 01:38:15.565 [SPEAKER_05]: You're safe. 01:38:16.922 --> 01:38:17.643 [SPEAKER_05]: Go see the devil. 01:38:18.064 --> 01:38:18.405 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:38:18.545 --> 01:38:19.386 [SPEAKER_04]: Go see the devil. 01:38:19.487 --> 01:38:20.148 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:38:21.089 --> 01:38:24.455 [SPEAKER_05]: So let's talk about one more happy thing. 01:38:24.475 --> 01:38:26.419 [SPEAKER_05]: That's some happy stuff in conclusion. 01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:27.681 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's conclude with something good. 01:38:27.981 --> 01:38:29.824 [SPEAKER_05]: Which way, can you don't have a script and I like it that way. 01:38:30.783 --> 01:38:33.183 [SPEAKER_05]: Offerage collective, Vegas, form the one race. 01:38:33.243 --> 01:38:37.184 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to think of something fun to talk about because we did, maybe we've actually talked about it. 01:38:37.244 --> 01:38:40.005 [SPEAKER_05]: I just want to, I'm making that clear that not being there. 01:38:40.025 --> 01:38:41.085 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to get into that at all. 01:38:41.105 --> 01:38:41.305 [SPEAKER_05]: We do. 01:38:41.345 --> 01:38:43.045 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's the survivors. 01:38:43.125 --> 01:38:44.305 [SPEAKER_05]: What's happy that's happening? 01:38:44.345 --> 01:38:45.026 [SPEAKER_04]: That's it, man. 01:38:45.166 --> 01:38:47.706 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the family and family good, man. 01:38:47.746 --> 01:38:50.587 [SPEAKER_04]: What's the, having a job that you actually enjoy? 01:38:50.607 --> 01:38:52.447 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't do these, these speeches are fun. 01:38:52.967 --> 01:38:53.547 [SPEAKER_05]: They are fun. 01:38:53.567 --> 01:38:56.488 [SPEAKER_04]: And pass on value about very valuable leadership and stories. 01:38:56.508 --> 01:38:57.228 [SPEAKER_04]: Talk about my dog. 01:38:57.248 --> 01:38:58.628 [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't want to hear about a dog. 01:39:00.034 --> 01:39:06.277 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and then this is actual valuable stuff that you can bring, not only to your company, but to your family, to the everybody around you. 01:39:06.477 --> 01:39:07.177 [SPEAKER_04]: So that's been fun. 01:39:08.298 --> 01:39:10.599 [SPEAKER_04]: And then all these events that we're going to be putting on the apex protocol. 01:39:10.639 --> 01:39:12.220 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's going to be a ton bro, right? 01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:13.180 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 01:39:13.200 --> 01:39:20.704 [SPEAKER_04]: Just so yeah, finding a job that you actually love to do again has been a big deal coming from the teams, a job that you don't even have to pay me to do. 01:39:22.076 --> 01:39:26.399 [SPEAKER_04]: losing that job and losing everybody's the guy's in finding a another half of us. 01:39:26.719 --> 01:39:28.280 [SPEAKER_05]: We're getting it and we're starting to build too. 01:39:28.300 --> 01:39:29.842 [SPEAKER_05]: We got we got guys coming in. 01:39:29.862 --> 01:39:31.182 [SPEAKER_05]: We got women coming in which is great. 01:39:31.202 --> 01:39:38.988 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to and just the whole thing of training with people and and the lessons learned into the lessons we teach is I think it's great. 01:39:39.008 --> 01:39:39.288 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm excited. 01:39:39.328 --> 01:39:42.390 [SPEAKER_05]: Our first class is going to have a good time and I'm looking for I'm really happy you're here, man. 01:39:42.711 --> 01:39:43.431 [SPEAKER_04]: We got so many stories. 01:39:43.491 --> 01:39:46.053 [SPEAKER_04]: It's the the cutting out stuff has been the hard part. 01:39:46.244 --> 01:39:58.554 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, cutting out which parts have so many stores and so many good lessons that is it is like especially if I had to cut down from a 45 to a 20 minutes like well I don't know I don't what do I cut out It's 40 minutes short 01:40:00.257 --> 01:40:01.438 [SPEAKER_05]: 20 minute. 01:40:01.498 --> 01:40:02.378 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell you. 01:40:03.299 --> 01:40:04.580 [SPEAKER_05]: I had a friend PP on my hands. 01:40:04.620 --> 01:40:04.960 [SPEAKER_05]: That's it. 01:40:05.500 --> 01:40:08.262 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, all right. 01:40:08.322 --> 01:40:09.403 [SPEAKER_05]: This has been a blast today, buddy. 01:40:09.423 --> 01:40:10.223 [SPEAKER_05]: I can't really. 01:40:10.343 --> 01:40:12.004 [SPEAKER_05]: And we'll do this a lot more, but I love you, man. 01:40:12.025 --> 01:40:12.665 [SPEAKER_05]: It's great to see you. 01:40:13.145 --> 01:40:13.946 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give you a hug off camera. 01:40:13.966 --> 01:40:16.527 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll spill shit here, but thank you, everyone, for watching. 01:40:16.567 --> 01:40:17.228 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a men of blasts. 01:40:17.248 --> 01:40:18.008 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thanks, everybody. 01:40:19.749 --> 01:40:20.470 [SPEAKER_05]: Always a blast. 01:40:21.945 --> 01:40:22.946 [SPEAKER_05]: I love talking to cheese. 01:40:23.046 --> 01:40:31.657 [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be we're going to have a good time coming up next month in Vegas at Apex Protocol November 23rd out in Las Vegas. 01:40:31.697 --> 01:40:34.761 [SPEAKER_05]: It's an inaugural Apex Protocol weekend. 01:40:34.781 --> 01:40:36.323 [SPEAKER_05]: If you haven't heard from a go check out, duh. 01:40:37.136 --> 01:40:43.678 [SPEAKER_05]: The Operators Collective Operators Collective, theoperatorscollective.com Operators Collective. 01:40:44.038 --> 01:40:45.559 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a group of us going out there. 01:40:46.339 --> 01:40:47.239 [SPEAKER_05]: I can explain that more. 01:40:47.259 --> 01:40:53.601 [SPEAKER_05]: We just obviously talked about it a little bit, but go check out operatorscollective.com and check out Apex Protocol. 01:40:53.621 --> 01:40:56.122 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the thing we're doing 23rd in Las Vegas. 01:40:56.862 --> 01:41:03.524 [SPEAKER_05]: Form the one racing, we got a kick-ass suite on the 3rd and 4th turn, I believe, which when you're dealing with F1 is very fast. 01:41:03.584 --> 01:41:05.265 [SPEAKER_05]: Really cool to watch those guys drive, too. 01:41:08.151 --> 01:41:10.472 [SPEAKER_05]: Both awesome, different, equally awesome. 01:41:10.712 --> 01:41:14.453 [SPEAKER_05]: I think maybe Taledig and Knights kind of shows. 01:41:18.895 --> 01:41:33.659 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so we got the sweet and that'll be cool because happy-hour stuff, dinner's cocktails, and then we have two days of shooting at Stacotto Ranch, which is gonna be insane shooting moving, known distance reigns, hopefully an unknown distance range but definitely a mile shot. 01:41:34.780 --> 01:41:35.520 [SPEAKER_05]: Working with, 01:41:38.020 --> 01:41:45.504 [SPEAKER_05]: Snipers working with SEAL Snipers, NYPD SWAT Snipers, the Reaper is going to be their Ranger Sniper. 01:41:46.785 --> 01:41:53.408 [SPEAKER_05]: I will be working in the kill house doing TQB communication and flow of movement just for communication, not giving up tactics. 01:41:54.169 --> 01:41:56.510 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be doing some fighting with Scott Oats and Daniel Martin. 01:41:56.530 --> 01:41:57.090 [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to be there. 01:41:57.111 --> 01:42:01.153 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have most of the crew out there, so definitely go check out the Opera's collective. 01:42:01.953 --> 01:42:13.027 [SPEAKER_05]: it's gonna be uh... it's gonna be it's gonna be a good time i'm excited for and uh... if you can learn to take a shot at a mile and hit you're never out of it