WEBVTT 00:08.738 --> 00:16.640 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everyone, welcome to the Delta Flyers Journey through the Wormhole with Quark, Dax, and their good friends, Tom and Harry. 00:17.120 --> 00:21.601 [SPEAKER_01]: Join us as we make our way through episodes of Star Trek Deep Space Nine! 00:21.621 --> 00:21.681 [SPEAKER_02]: Yo! 00:23.001 --> 00:32.744 [SPEAKER_02]: Our host for today are my fellow Trek Actors, Arm and Sherman, Robert Duncan McNeill, and myself, Garrett Wong, for the complete and exciting version of this podcast. 00:33.204 --> 00:36.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Please check out patreon.com for more slash the Delta Flyers and sign up to become a 00:39.686 --> 00:40.186 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 00:40.347 --> 00:41.688 [SPEAKER_02]: Hello there, gentlemen. 00:41.828 --> 00:42.248 [SPEAKER_01]: Howdy. 00:42.268 --> 00:42.589 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello. 00:42.629 --> 00:42.929 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello. 00:42.949 --> 00:43.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello. 00:43.530 --> 00:47.994 [SPEAKER_00]: Can I prevail upon you to make a little blurb while we're here today? 00:48.214 --> 00:48.435 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 00:48.455 --> 00:49.115 [SPEAKER_01]: I love blurb. 00:49.275 --> 00:49.876 [SPEAKER_01]: Blurb. 00:50.136 --> 00:50.657 [SPEAKER_01]: Blurbbing. 00:51.144 --> 01:04.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so if anyone is in Los Angeles and interested in studying with me for Shakespeare, Antias.org has a website up where you can enroll in my classes, starting in November. 01:04.096 --> 01:05.457 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a Zoom class or is it a Zoom class? 01:05.777 --> 01:11.522 [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's why I realized even as I was speaking just now, I realized it's not a Zoom class, it's in person. 01:12.903 --> 01:16.527 [SPEAKER_00]: But I did have, I think, one or two in my last class of people who 01:17.187 --> 01:21.231 [SPEAKER_00]: who may have come from Delta Flyers, and signed up. 01:21.771 --> 01:22.612 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:22.652 --> 01:25.675 [SPEAKER_02]: For those who are uninformed, can you spell Antias for everyone? 01:26.396 --> 01:27.537 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you, Garrett. 01:27.977 --> 01:30.900 [SPEAKER_00]: So, it's a strange spelling because it's from the Greek. 01:31.480 --> 01:35.944 [SPEAKER_00]: It's A as an apple, and it's a Nancy, T as an Tom, A as an apple. 01:35.964 --> 01:39.748 [SPEAKER_00]: E as an Egypt, E as an United, S as an Sam. 01:40.848 --> 01:42.949 [SPEAKER_01]: And he is, and he is. 01:43.770 --> 01:51.713 [SPEAKER_00]: People say, well, I don't taste, and the mantra that we have, if it was, if it was and tears would be, you'd have to pay us, but it's and he has so come and see. 01:52.834 --> 01:53.514 [SPEAKER_01]: I like that. 01:53.774 --> 01:54.314 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, good. 01:54.434 --> 01:56.915 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I hope it's a very successful class. 01:56.995 --> 02:00.097 [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard from people that have taken your class, and they really love it. 02:00.177 --> 02:02.338 [SPEAKER_01]: They learn so much, they have a great time. 02:02.538 --> 02:09.561 [SPEAKER_02]: You are indeed correct, Arm, and there were a couple of Delta Flyer listeners, Delta Flyer's listeners, who did join your class last time. 02:10.001 --> 02:11.386 [SPEAKER_02]: and they told me about it. 02:11.446 --> 02:15.701 [SPEAKER_02]: So thanks, flyers, flyers, you know, I hope you had a good time. 02:22.105 --> 02:25.969 [SPEAKER_01]: So we dive into our form of art, our poetic arts. 02:26.370 --> 02:33.858 [SPEAKER_01]: As I've mentioned before, sometimes I use rhymes.com or whatever it is called to find my rhymes. 02:33.898 --> 02:41.286 [SPEAKER_01]: And as I was looking for rhymes from my limb wreck, it started falling into what Terry does that's sort of free flowing narrative verse. 02:41.366 --> 02:41.806 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, 02:42.387 --> 02:53.610 [SPEAKER_01]: I've never done that, I always go for Limerick, so I'll read my Limerick first, but I also have a second poem that is a free-flowing narrative verse, all right, here we go. 02:54.250 --> 02:55.770 [SPEAKER_01]: For the Limerick goes like this. 02:56.830 --> 03:02.572 [SPEAKER_01]: There once was a starfleet engineer who played his part and seemed very sincere. 03:03.292 --> 03:10.694 [SPEAKER_01]: He followed the plan, did all that he can, so why did the right thing feel so wrong here? 03:12.714 --> 03:13.155 [SPEAKER_01]: Good. 03:13.775 --> 03:14.736 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much. 03:14.756 --> 03:16.317 [SPEAKER_01]: I realize my tense was wrong. 03:16.377 --> 03:18.278 [SPEAKER_01]: He followed the plan past tense. 03:18.798 --> 03:22.181 [SPEAKER_01]: It did all that he can present tense. 03:22.281 --> 03:25.143 [SPEAKER_01]: It should be good, but then can you had to rhyme it so. 03:25.263 --> 03:27.704 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm okay with that artistic license. 03:27.884 --> 03:28.565 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay with that. 03:28.965 --> 03:29.325 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 03:29.406 --> 03:37.312 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, with that imperfection you get an additional poem today, this is rhyming narrative verse, thanks to Terry Farrell. 03:37.453 --> 03:37.893 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's hear it. 03:38.273 --> 03:38.854 [SPEAKER_01]: Goes like this. 03:39.174 --> 03:45.400 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles went undercover, a starfleet man, to infiltrate the syndicates dangerous clan. 03:46.604 --> 03:53.047 [SPEAKER_01]: He earned Bill B's trust, became part of the crew, but the deeper he went, the more their friendship grew. 03:53.827 --> 04:02.531 [SPEAKER_01]: What started as duty became something more, Miles made a friend he had never expected before. 04:02.751 --> 04:03.111 [SPEAKER_00]: Excellent. 04:03.371 --> 04:03.731 [SPEAKER_00]: Excellent. 04:03.791 --> 04:04.512 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent. 04:04.812 --> 04:05.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. 04:05.592 --> 04:06.032 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent. 04:08.150 --> 04:09.010 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what, Robbie? 04:09.151 --> 04:16.274 [SPEAKER_02]: It would not surprise me if you ended up making an announcement after, you know, a few more years saying no longer will I direct. 04:16.514 --> 04:17.995 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm now a poet only. 04:18.375 --> 04:20.917 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you can just go right into poetry. 04:21.017 --> 04:22.117 [SPEAKER_02]: You're throwing it left and right. 04:22.538 --> 04:23.318 [SPEAKER_02]: I love poetry. 04:23.338 --> 04:29.621 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, this is not an ad, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna plug something that I discovered. 04:29.722 --> 04:29.942 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 04:31.082 --> 04:52.765 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a writer poet that I follow on the internet and they mentioned this website called Opel that publishes poetry, but it also is a place that you can write poetry and you may get in this journal and so you pay sort of like a patreon and you join this thing and you get the quarterly 04:53.726 --> 04:55.307 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, magazine. 04:55.367 --> 05:05.971 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a spring just came out, but I started writing poetry on Opel and I love, I got my first quarterly and yes, I love poetry. 05:06.171 --> 05:07.212 [SPEAKER_01]: So I really enjoy it. 05:07.897 --> 05:12.918 [SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, it's not an ad, but it's a great place of people are interested amateur poets. 05:13.318 --> 05:17.199 [SPEAKER_01]: You want to write poetry and feel like maybe you'll get published like me. 05:17.480 --> 05:18.420 [SPEAKER_01]: Opel is a cool place. 05:18.640 --> 05:22.601 [SPEAKER_00]: When I was 11 years old, I wrote a poem sent it in for a contest and I won. 05:23.121 --> 05:24.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I was at 11. 05:24.701 --> 05:26.182 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice. 05:26.442 --> 05:29.903 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think maybe the start of my writing career started then. 05:29.943 --> 05:33.164 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, what was your poem about? 05:33.584 --> 05:34.244 [SPEAKER_00]: Armand that one. 05:35.445 --> 05:40.968 [SPEAKER_00]: In the year of 1948, it must have been a Jewish publication. 05:41.448 --> 05:43.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Israel became a state and I can't remember the rest of it. 05:44.010 --> 05:44.430 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 05:45.212 --> 05:47.453 [SPEAKER_01]: But you want an amazing, wow. 05:47.533 --> 05:53.595 [SPEAKER_02]: And Robbie, I have a very similar question that I had for Armin earlier, for those who were just listening to us. 05:53.655 --> 05:56.756 [SPEAKER_02]: Can you spell Opel for those that are only the most? 05:56.776 --> 05:58.217 [SPEAKER_00]: We shot Opel. 05:58.457 --> 05:59.437 [SPEAKER_02]: Opel? 05:59.657 --> 05:59.978 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 06:00.278 --> 06:08.281 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you want to look up Opel and you want to write some poetry or just see what they're doing, the website is opel.space. 06:08.721 --> 06:09.201 [SPEAKER_01]: S-P-A-C-E. 06:11.722 --> 06:17.424 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, uh, it's not a dot com or it's OPO L dot space off. 06:17.465 --> 06:19.906 [SPEAKER_01]: So never even heard of a dot space before. 06:19.946 --> 06:20.286 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 06:20.346 --> 06:20.886 [SPEAKER_02]: Super cool. 06:21.206 --> 06:21.686 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 06:22.026 --> 06:22.747 [SPEAKER_02]: Very cool. 06:23.187 --> 06:23.947 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to check it out. 06:24.147 --> 06:24.908 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for that. 06:25.028 --> 06:25.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Robby. 06:25.428 --> 06:27.989 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's my high coup for honor among thieves. 06:29.210 --> 06:30.830 [SPEAKER_02]: Secret agent chief. 06:31.931 --> 06:34.292 [SPEAKER_02]: He starts to feel for his mark. 06:35.512 --> 06:37.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Family comes first. 06:39.352 --> 06:40.254 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. 06:40.494 --> 06:41.596 [SPEAKER_01]: Very nice. 06:41.816 --> 06:42.337 [SPEAKER_01]: I do. 06:42.417 --> 06:43.018 [SPEAKER_01]: I do. 06:43.038 --> 06:43.158 [SPEAKER_01]: I do. 06:43.178 --> 06:43.499 [SPEAKER_01]: I do. 06:43.539 --> 06:44.981 [SPEAKER_00]: And emoji. 06:45.301 --> 06:46.223 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 06:46.343 --> 06:47.585 [SPEAKER_00]: Three words in the title. 06:47.825 --> 06:49.087 [SPEAKER_00]: So we start with honor. 06:50.305 --> 07:01.111 [SPEAKER_00]: Honor in the OED and the Oxford English Dictionary is built of course with the U, H-O-N-O, U-R's opposed to the American version which is H-O-N-O-R. 07:01.391 --> 07:08.315 [SPEAKER_00]: It's from the old French of O-N-L, which is spelled O-N-E-R or O-N-L, which is O-N-U-R. 07:11.576 --> 07:23.180 [SPEAKER_00]: The definition of course is a high-respect of steam or reverence according to exalted worth or rank, a differential admiration or approbation. 07:23.560 --> 07:25.921 [SPEAKER_00]: It's first used in the English language was in 1375. 07:26.241 --> 07:35.904 [SPEAKER_00]: The next word is among of the local revelation of a thing or things to several surrounding objects, which it is grouped. 07:36.164 --> 07:38.065 [SPEAKER_00]: It is of course preposition. 07:39.020 --> 07:42.523 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's first used, this is a little earlier than honor. 07:42.543 --> 07:47.868 [SPEAKER_00]: It was first used in 1000, the last word is thief. 07:48.168 --> 07:50.931 [SPEAKER_00]: This one is a really interesting word. 07:51.611 --> 07:56.075 [SPEAKER_00]: Thief, it's from the old English spelled ready for this. 07:56.556 --> 07:58.137 [SPEAKER_00]: P-I-O-F. 07:58.437 --> 08:01.580 [SPEAKER_00]: It's from the tutonic and the Dutch and the old high German. 08:05.393 --> 08:11.939 [SPEAKER_00]: Portable property from another without the knowledge without that person's knowledge or consent of the latter. 08:12.339 --> 08:14.521 [SPEAKER_00]: Converting it to their own use. 08:14.861 --> 08:18.144 [SPEAKER_00]: This one, however, this has got to be the earliest. 08:18.905 --> 08:21.087 [SPEAKER_00]: This world was first used in 608. 08:21.107 --> 08:23.469 [SPEAKER_00]: So it predates among by 400 years. 08:23.489 --> 08:25.690 [SPEAKER_00]: It predates honor by 700 years. 08:31.988 --> 08:34.130 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's spelling of P-I-O-F. 08:34.750 --> 08:37.192 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to start calling instead of a thief. 08:37.232 --> 08:40.735 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say, hey, you P-Of is what I'm saying. 08:40.895 --> 08:43.458 [SPEAKER_01]: It almost sounds like Viking or something. 08:43.478 --> 08:44.739 [SPEAKER_00]: A little Scandinavian. 08:45.279 --> 08:46.220 [SPEAKER_00]: It is to John X. 08:46.260 --> 08:49.202 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's very likely it's influenced by the Vikings. 08:49.422 --> 08:51.824 [SPEAKER_00]: But certainly by the Germanic tribes. 08:52.705 --> 08:59.950 [SPEAKER_00]: And then it is from the old high germers, which, and because it's old high germ and it's Dutch, it's tutonic, it's from that part of the world. 09:00.330 --> 09:01.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, interesting. 09:01.511 --> 09:04.793 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a couple more poems because I'm obsessed with poetry today. 09:04.893 --> 09:10.717 [SPEAKER_01]: So this first patreon submitted poetry winner is a high-coost submitted by Steph Davies, and that is... 09:11.730 --> 09:13.132 [SPEAKER_01]: miles on a mission. 09:13.893 --> 09:15.856 [SPEAKER_01]: Empathy conquers duty. 09:16.657 --> 09:20.623 [SPEAKER_01]: In heritz Chester, all the cat eyes. 09:21.023 --> 09:21.784 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice stuff. 09:21.985 --> 09:23.266 [SPEAKER_02]: We have another poem. 09:23.306 --> 09:28.474 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a Patreon submitted poetry honorable mention, rhyming narrative verse submitted by Jason Oken. 09:29.794 --> 09:46.327 [SPEAKER_02]: What honor lives among the thieves, who kill as easy as they breathe, trapped in a world nundair to leave, a coat of blood they all bequeath, how quickly lines begin to blur, when trust is built on shifting sand, 09:47.007 --> 09:52.112 [SPEAKER_02]: The seeming lie begins to stir, devotion that was never planned. 09:52.312 --> 09:57.537 [SPEAKER_02]: What matters most will still remain when death is all that fate can bring. 09:58.137 --> 10:03.122 [SPEAKER_02]: For family's worth eternal pain, it is the most important thing. 10:04.550 --> 10:07.732 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, Jason, such a good job. 10:07.932 --> 10:10.593 [SPEAKER_01]: What do we know about the story in this script? 10:10.793 --> 10:14.634 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I saw an Asian name when it said story by Philip Kim. 10:14.835 --> 10:16.675 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, it's Harry Kim's ancestor. 10:17.016 --> 10:18.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm very interesting. 10:18.716 --> 10:26.760 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know Philip Kim, but he is the, he's who the story is by, tell a play by Renee Ishavaria and directed by Alan Eastman. 10:27.880 --> 10:33.942 [SPEAKER_02]: And as I go through the guest stars, if anyone has any comments or anything about them, please interrupt me. 10:34.762 --> 10:41.984 [SPEAKER_02]: We have Michael Harney as Chadwick, which I thought, what a country club name they gave this guy. 10:42.124 --> 10:42.645 [SPEAKER_02]: Chadwick. 10:43.425 --> 10:46.926 [SPEAKER_02]: Next we have Carlos Carasco, not the baseball player, but the actor. 10:47.126 --> 10:50.548 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but the actor, the actor is a close friend of mine or wasn't in time. 10:50.628 --> 10:53.050 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not that we've separated, I just haven't seen him for a long time. 10:53.490 --> 10:56.852 [SPEAKER_00]: We did Richard the second together and we really bonded. 10:56.912 --> 11:03.677 [SPEAKER_00]: He is a wonderfully, wonderfully, classically trained actor and I enjoy Carlos a great deal. 11:04.057 --> 11:07.438 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, um, it says he's he's Panamanian he's from Panama. 11:07.598 --> 11:10.178 [SPEAKER_02]: This is what I saw when I was looking at people. 11:10.298 --> 11:11.079 [SPEAKER_02]: He played crawl. 11:11.319 --> 11:21.101 [SPEAKER_02]: Carlos Crest was crawl and a friend of Armen's John Chandler played Fleth, which every time I see it, I want to say filth, but it's not. 11:21.121 --> 11:21.621 [SPEAKER_02]: It's Fleth. 11:22.861 --> 11:23.661 [SPEAKER_02]: John Chandler. 11:24.702 --> 11:29.663 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the syndicate guys, a little in crook as Gailnon, 11:30.924 --> 11:35.853 [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph Cop as Ramus, and Nick Tate as Billby. 11:36.113 --> 11:37.816 [SPEAKER_00]: I would like to see more of Nick Tate. 11:38.437 --> 11:39.199 [SPEAKER_01]: I would, too. 11:39.579 --> 11:41.162 [SPEAKER_01]: I really liked him a lot. 11:41.643 --> 11:42.565 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he did a good job. 11:42.880 --> 11:49.522 [SPEAKER_01]: Nick Tate, by the way, Nick Tate was on one of my favorite science fiction shows Space 1999. 11:50.102 --> 11:52.722 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Nick Tate was a regular on that show. 11:52.782 --> 11:53.623 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, goodness. 11:53.683 --> 11:55.063 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a wonderful actor. 11:55.383 --> 11:57.603 [SPEAKER_00]: He does a great job in this, in this episode. 11:57.623 --> 11:59.264 [SPEAKER_01]: Does a great job. 12:00.344 --> 12:07.546 [SPEAKER_01]: And space 1999, no shade on Star Trek or DS9 or Voyager any of the Star Trek. 12:07.946 --> 12:08.826 [SPEAKER_01]: But when I was a kid, 12:13.007 --> 12:14.628 [SPEAKER_01]: The visual effects were amazing. 12:14.728 --> 12:17.209 [SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was, that was my favorite sci-fi show. 12:17.830 --> 12:18.830 [SPEAKER_02]: It's basically in 1999. 12:19.090 --> 12:19.371 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 12:19.391 --> 12:19.691 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 12:19.891 --> 12:23.753 [SPEAKER_02]: Is going on the guy that got shot, they provided the disrupting things. 12:23.773 --> 12:24.753 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's got to be him. 12:24.934 --> 12:26.775 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the only other guy that had lines that I could think of. 12:26.935 --> 12:27.775 [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit trivia. 12:27.935 --> 12:41.883 [SPEAKER_02]: Charles Hallahan was originally cast in the role of Liam Bilby, but sadly passed away several days before Principal Photography began, Nick Tate who initially lost the role to Hallahan, agreed to do it in his memory. 12:42.823 --> 12:44.084 [SPEAKER_02]: My goodness. 12:44.484 --> 12:51.348 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Charlie Han was a part of the Matrix Repetory Company that I was a part of, a wonderful actor. 12:51.869 --> 13:00.574 [SPEAKER_00]: When I perform at the, at the Matrix, you have to look down the center aisle off and at the end of the center aisle as a picture of Charlie Han. 13:02.957 --> 13:07.842 [SPEAKER_00]: a good friend, a good friend to many actors from the Matrix Theatre. 13:08.062 --> 13:19.512 [SPEAKER_02]: Next bit of trivia, Philip Kim's original idea for this episode was a comic story involving Jake saving the life of the daughter of the Orion Syndicate's leader. 13:20.673 --> 13:23.235 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's so far off of the actual plot. 13:23.255 --> 13:28.620 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a very different, yeah, and instead they just left Jake out of the episode. 13:28.680 --> 13:29.281 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I die. 13:30.485 --> 13:34.090 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so rock at the he definitely got the short end of the stick on this one. 13:34.110 --> 13:36.192 [SPEAKER_00]: My goodness unless he was playing Chester 13:38.127 --> 13:42.689 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, if Chester was a speaking cat, maybe he could have done some, you know, V.O. 13:42.749 --> 13:43.109 [SPEAKER_02]: for that. 13:43.750 --> 13:50.473 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, the next bit of trivia, the syndicate itself had previously been mentioned in the episode, The Ascent. 13:50.933 --> 14:00.537 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember that, yeah, where it planted a bomb on and crippled the runabout carrying cork and auto to a trial where cork was scheduled to testify against it. 14:00.757 --> 14:06.360 [SPEAKER_02]: And in the episode, a simple investigation where Arissa is working as an undercover agent in an attempt 14:07.020 --> 14:07.980 [SPEAKER_02]: to infiltrate it. 14:08.360 --> 14:15.222 [SPEAKER_02]: So a couple of references to the syndicate and never really any stories focusing on the syndicate until now. 14:16.143 --> 14:23.384 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember when they mentioned the Orion Syndicate in earlier episodes and I was like, they're talking about this, did I miss something? 14:23.425 --> 14:30.186 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, it's interesting now to finally see kind of some of the behind the scenes of the Orion Syndicate. 14:30.206 --> 14:32.347 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this was a great idea. 14:33.193 --> 14:41.198 [SPEAKER_00]: It is kudos to our writing staff that nothing has ever wasted nothing, nothing has ever forgotten. 14:41.218 --> 14:47.181 [SPEAKER_00]: If it's mentioned somewhere, it can crop up again and be expanded upon. 14:48.002 --> 14:49.162 [SPEAKER_00]: They were very good about that. 14:49.262 --> 14:50.183 [SPEAKER_00]: They were very out of that. 14:50.843 --> 14:51.384 [SPEAKER_02]: We're great. 14:52.004 --> 14:56.627 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I now, I mean, watching this episode, I started thinking about my goodness. 14:57.287 --> 15:13.894 [SPEAKER_02]: there could be a whole series or a movie similar to the film, the and touchables, where you have the Orion Syndicate as the Mafia organization, and then Starfleet Section 31 or Starfleet Intelligence as sort of, you know, the FBI sort of tried. 15:13.914 --> 15:14.834 [SPEAKER_01]: Great idea, Garrett. 15:14.914 --> 15:15.775 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's develop it. 15:15.795 --> 15:17.876 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do Star Trek series. 15:17.936 --> 15:18.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do this. 15:19.056 --> 15:19.737 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it. 15:19.857 --> 15:20.957 [SPEAKER_02]: It makes me super fun. 15:21.398 --> 15:22.398 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's it for trivia. 15:22.438 --> 15:23.579 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it for trivia. 15:23.599 --> 15:25.320 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's dive into the story. 15:25.380 --> 15:28.683 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we start off in a very dark tavern. 15:28.703 --> 15:33.466 [SPEAKER_01]: I, as I was watching this the first time, I watched for like 10 seconds and I paused it. 15:33.486 --> 15:35.567 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, is the TV broken? 15:35.627 --> 15:37.509 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's so dark. 15:37.989 --> 15:41.451 [SPEAKER_01]: I literally had to shut the curtains and the shades and everything. 15:42.072 --> 15:43.773 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, it's really dark. 15:43.953 --> 15:46.675 [SPEAKER_02]: I turned to me and I said, what's going on with this episode? 15:46.715 --> 15:48.556 [SPEAKER_02]: Why can't I see anything so? 15:48.576 --> 15:50.397 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was very dark. 15:50.577 --> 15:51.117 [SPEAKER_01]: Very dark. 15:51.738 --> 15:52.178 [SPEAKER_01]: I did. 15:52.198 --> 16:00.262 [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to mention this opening shot of the industrial planet, various prime, classic Dan Curry, white establishing shot. 16:00.302 --> 16:02.924 [SPEAKER_01]: And we see them a few times in this episode. 16:03.464 --> 16:05.105 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's a combination of technique. 16:05.145 --> 16:06.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Some of it's painted. 16:06.686 --> 16:09.768 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hand-painted art that Dan Curry has done. 16:10.789 --> 16:33.914 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... some of it is moving you know elements but he combines different stuff into the it he combines like uh... elements of two d animation into three d animation and makes it feel so alive it was really great even had like a little person moving in the window of one of the buildings and i remember dancry was on chock with me 16:34.908 --> 16:45.241 [SPEAKER_01]: did our visual effects on Chuck for most of the run and Dan use that same trick on Chuck when we would sets things in, you know, places we couldn't afford to go. 16:45.261 --> 16:51.749 [SPEAKER_01]: It's shoot background actors on green screen and then shrink them down and put them in the windows of building. 16:51.849 --> 16:52.650 [SPEAKER_01]: So it looked like 16:53.404 --> 17:00.453 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a 3D shot, but it was really just a 2D painting or photograph for something and he'd turn it into a moving thing. 17:00.493 --> 17:01.334 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was great. 17:01.654 --> 17:02.235 [SPEAKER_02]: So amazing. 17:02.255 --> 17:05.819 [SPEAKER_02]: So it starts with a matte painting, and then after that, he'd start doing his own. 17:05.839 --> 17:11.886 [SPEAKER_01]: He starts adding moving elements, you know, people or the floating trains going by, things like that. 17:12.507 --> 17:15.690 [SPEAKER_01]: birds flying through the air, and it's it's very effective. 17:16.170 --> 17:18.412 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a question, Armin, or I have a comment. 17:19.073 --> 17:29.462 [SPEAKER_02]: It's possible the bio-shot game designers were watching this episode and had sort of an influence or something where they thought, hey, this is kind of a look what's possible. 17:29.582 --> 17:30.222 [SPEAKER_02]: It's possible. 17:31.023 --> 17:42.270 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we go out of that establishing shot of Ferris Prime into this bar the first thing I noticed was the ceiling fan I was like It just made me laugh like they've got computers and chips in their brains at all 17:43.132 --> 17:46.634 [SPEAKER_01]: and replicators, but they still have a ceiling fan. 17:46.894 --> 17:54.159 [SPEAKER_00]: But doesn't that give you, I mean, I'm sure that the, the, the patua of this particular episode is filmed in the war. 17:54.779 --> 18:00.402 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, it seems to me that if we look at Casa Blanca, we'll see several shots of ceiling fans. 18:01.123 --> 18:02.744 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they may reference to, yeah. 18:03.124 --> 18:08.948 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's in the genre of kind of a gum shoe, you know, crime-solving thing. 18:09.148 --> 18:10.269 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's it. 18:10.449 --> 18:11.450 [SPEAKER_01]: A ceiling fan. 18:11.490 --> 18:14.032 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just was like, yeah, it's the future. 18:14.052 --> 18:16.193 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they've got, I don't need that. 18:16.253 --> 18:18.855 [SPEAKER_01]: Great air movement without a, you know, 18:19.743 --> 18:21.625 [SPEAKER_01]: a bladed fan on the ceiling. 18:21.705 --> 18:24.227 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we go inside the bar. 18:24.707 --> 18:27.290 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a background guy, they're playing cards, there's something. 18:27.310 --> 18:30.432 [SPEAKER_01]: The background guy has a tube and he keeps sniffing out of it. 18:30.693 --> 18:30.973 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:31.113 --> 18:31.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:31.714 --> 18:32.875 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's really agitated. 18:32.895 --> 18:39.240 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, is that some illegal chatter subsense that we're, I think that's what we were supposed to think. 18:39.540 --> 18:43.824 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, God bless Mr. Eastman for putting that in there, whether or not it was in the script or not. 18:43.864 --> 18:44.845 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, 18:45.385 --> 18:47.026 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it made it look like an affair. 18:47.066 --> 18:47.647 [SPEAKER_00]: It's place. 18:47.707 --> 18:49.228 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a hundred percent. 18:49.388 --> 18:50.889 [SPEAKER_00]: We pan around this room. 18:50.909 --> 18:52.450 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a nice pan, by the way. 18:52.550 --> 18:53.850 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that camera shot. 18:54.011 --> 18:55.591 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did a lot of good Allen. 18:55.632 --> 18:56.512 [SPEAKER_01]: He did a lot of good. 18:56.572 --> 18:57.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. 18:57.192 --> 18:58.413 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of good stuff. 18:59.174 --> 19:01.375 [SPEAKER_01]: It reveals miles at the bar. 19:01.975 --> 19:04.457 [SPEAKER_01]: And then behind him, we see some bad guys in the corner. 19:10.330 --> 19:17.912 [SPEAKER_01]: and they're talking about a shipment of merchandise that's gone wrong and ramus is going to be very angry. 19:17.932 --> 19:23.874 [SPEAKER_01]: I did make a note that Kroll's costume looks like an enterprise uniform. 19:24.574 --> 19:25.435 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the blue. 19:26.555 --> 19:28.616 [SPEAKER_02]: Eh, good call there, Ravi. 19:28.817 --> 19:29.837 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, yes. 19:30.137 --> 19:30.838 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it crawls. 19:30.938 --> 19:32.539 [SPEAKER_01]: How if it looked like an enterprise costume? 19:32.659 --> 19:35.161 [SPEAKER_02]: I just like in the script, Ravi, it flith. 19:35.421 --> 19:36.902 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it says, non-human. 19:37.022 --> 19:37.822 [SPEAKER_02]: And then crawl. 19:37.842 --> 19:39.963 [SPEAKER_02]: It says, very non-human. 19:40.824 --> 19:41.785 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. 19:41.845 --> 19:42.305 [SPEAKER_02]: Very funny. 19:42.465 --> 19:42.685 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 19:42.745 --> 19:47.048 [SPEAKER_01]: But Miles is undercover as a character will learn named Connelly. 19:48.389 --> 19:55.293 [SPEAKER_00]: But he's watching them from the bar I couldn't help thinking Conley Conley is a very famous film film noir writer. 19:55.493 --> 19:59.996 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's with he's the writer for the bar series. 20:00.356 --> 20:03.358 [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought, oh, maybe it's acknowledgement of him as well. 20:03.558 --> 20:04.498 [SPEAKER_01]: I bet it could be. 20:04.618 --> 20:05.459 [SPEAKER_00]: I would not tell that. 20:05.619 --> 20:06.960 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure. 20:07.244 --> 20:30.986 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Flith goes over to the bars com booth and he starts to access the com booth and they're basically trying to steal a free meal, a free lunch by charging it to a government account when we see miles sort of push the button of some device a little red light comes on and this this kind of electrical shock. 20:31.827 --> 20:37.988 [SPEAKER_01]: comes out of the booth where he's trying to steal the food and shocks him and Miles runs over and says, no, no, don't touch him. 20:38.968 --> 20:41.209 [SPEAKER_01]: He's connected, he'll get hurt. 20:42.209 --> 20:44.750 [SPEAKER_01]: But he stops this thing, Miles stops it. 20:44.910 --> 20:47.810 [SPEAKER_01]: Then he offers to repair the damage equipment. 20:48.090 --> 20:50.491 [SPEAKER_01]: So he is immediately useful to these guys. 20:50.531 --> 20:51.731 [SPEAKER_01]: We can tell he's undercover. 20:51.791 --> 20:53.291 [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's playing a game here. 20:53.331 --> 20:54.732 [SPEAKER_01]: He's doing something. 20:54.772 --> 20:55.012 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 20:55.152 --> 20:57.112 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to know why the bartender didn't say anything. 20:58.080 --> 20:58.760 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 20:58.840 --> 20:59.101 [SPEAKER_01]: Ever. 20:59.561 --> 20:59.821 [SPEAKER_01]: Ever. 21:00.061 --> 21:00.541 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:01.282 --> 21:03.123 [SPEAKER_01]: He has a being an assassin later, right? 21:03.143 --> 21:04.243 [SPEAKER_01]: He never says anything. 21:04.563 --> 21:06.704 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, Robby was crawled. 21:06.744 --> 21:08.985 [SPEAKER_02]: The more alien-looking, a heavy. 21:09.186 --> 21:10.566 [SPEAKER_02]: That was crawled right. 21:10.626 --> 21:11.206 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 21:11.387 --> 21:11.807 [SPEAKER_01]: That was right. 21:11.827 --> 21:12.007 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:12.467 --> 21:13.087 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't flat. 21:13.348 --> 21:13.568 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 21:13.708 --> 21:14.088 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right. 21:14.348 --> 21:15.328 [SPEAKER_01]: I just like saying flat. 21:15.549 --> 21:16.609 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's such a cool way. 21:19.742 --> 21:23.724 [SPEAKER_01]: So obviously Miles is a undercover doing something. 21:24.024 --> 21:29.406 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you like his little five o'clock shadow on Miles? 21:29.506 --> 21:29.866 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you? 21:30.407 --> 21:35.809 [SPEAKER_02]: It looked like it looked like it looked like makeup to me. 21:35.949 --> 21:37.230 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're right. 21:37.430 --> 21:44.313 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they probably suggested some hair and stuff like that and stubble and knowing columny probably said no. 21:45.162 --> 21:48.284 [SPEAKER_00]: No, just draw something on that a bit sufficient. 21:48.564 --> 22:01.893 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a sponge and the, the, the, the, the, I was going to say, Armin, that he could have grown it out a couple of days, but because Columns lighter in his hair color, his beard color, probably was too, you know what I'm saying? 22:01.913 --> 22:14.202 [SPEAKER_02]: It came in kind of light and then that dark, yeah, seen there were thinking, oh gosh, we can't even, that doesn't even read and someone came and stippled little black, you know, the problem with Columns growing anything out is a little bit more complicated 22:14.942 --> 22:19.285 [SPEAKER_00]: really is that he was always doing more than one project at one time. 22:19.305 --> 22:27.350 [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, he could run something out for Deep Space 9, but how would that have affected the film he was shooting in Ireland or England or someplace? 22:27.710 --> 22:28.130 [SPEAKER_00]: Makes sense. 22:28.411 --> 22:32.533 [SPEAKER_02]: So after the spike, what happens is that gets the attention of Billby. 22:32.753 --> 22:36.936 [SPEAKER_02]: Billby comes over and sees that O'Brien is the one who stops the 22:40.338 --> 22:53.606 [SPEAKER_02]: Clearly, Croll does this thing in order to sort of cheat the system and spiking is something where I guess it's automated or it's part of the security where you're trying to catch people trying to pilfer from the system. 22:54.327 --> 22:57.629 [SPEAKER_02]: O'Brien stops it, bill be thinks, hey, this is great. 22:57.929 --> 23:02.812 [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you try to fix the fix our kind of interface? 23:02.852 --> 23:03.652 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly. 23:03.692 --> 23:04.653 [SPEAKER_02]: Fix this interface. 23:04.973 --> 23:06.274 [SPEAKER_02]: Bring it back tomorrow. 23:06.494 --> 23:07.615 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll, you know. 23:09.097 --> 23:12.180 [SPEAKER_02]: polished and ready to go, and a Brian goes, okay, no problem. 23:12.501 --> 23:13.602 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we jump to the alley. 23:14.203 --> 23:14.403 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:15.064 --> 23:19.630 [SPEAKER_01]: And we do learn in that billby says, I've seen you around here the last few weeks. 23:19.930 --> 23:21.272 [SPEAKER_01]: You're always tinkering around with something. 23:21.292 --> 23:22.574 [SPEAKER_01]: So we know he's been here a while. 23:22.674 --> 23:22.874 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 23:23.455 --> 23:25.117 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been on this mission for a little while. 23:26.478 --> 23:28.880 [SPEAKER_01]: So now we go into an alley. 23:29.080 --> 23:31.041 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very clandestine meaning. 23:31.061 --> 23:33.603 [SPEAKER_01]: I do love the music here. 23:33.643 --> 23:35.164 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the orchestra was great. 23:35.684 --> 23:37.265 [SPEAKER_01]: The thriller kind of music. 23:37.325 --> 23:38.726 [SPEAKER_01]: It just set this scene nicely. 23:38.766 --> 23:40.087 [SPEAKER_01]: And a real contrast to that. 23:41.037 --> 23:52.082 [SPEAKER_01]: very tense bar that we were just in and the smoke was very cool that very first shot kind of the camera moving right through the smoke as it follows Chadwick. 23:52.362 --> 23:58.424 [SPEAKER_00]: Right and and also the the one or shot that goes from Chadwick to a Brian coming out of the shadows. 23:58.825 --> 23:59.765 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 24:00.385 --> 24:01.586 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was a lovely shot. 24:02.146 --> 24:03.587 [SPEAKER_01]: Alan did a great job here. 24:03.707 --> 24:09.030 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised this is his only episode of DS9 because I thought he did a really good job. 24:09.070 --> 24:10.230 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that something you looked up? 24:10.410 --> 24:11.471 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought he did another one. 24:11.771 --> 24:13.772 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought he only did one. 24:14.312 --> 24:14.552 [SPEAKER_02]: Huh. 24:14.612 --> 24:15.673 [SPEAKER_02]: He did our show. 24:16.193 --> 24:17.734 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's why I'm confusing it. 24:18.074 --> 24:20.596 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Alan Eastman did a few on our show. 24:20.676 --> 24:20.976 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 24:21.016 --> 24:24.317 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he only did one of DS9. 24:24.357 --> 24:24.558 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:24.798 --> 24:24.998 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 24:25.618 --> 24:25.878 [SPEAKER_02]: Shut up. 24:26.138 --> 24:27.499 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd also it is of note. 24:27.679 --> 24:35.661 [SPEAKER_02]: We never know the name of Chadwick until the very last scene where we see him and then he says because that's why it was so shocked I go your name is Chadwick. 24:35.701 --> 24:36.601 [SPEAKER_02]: This entire time. 24:36.701 --> 24:37.881 [SPEAKER_02]: I did not know that's funny. 24:38.301 --> 24:42.022 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but really nice blocking moving around Orion meets Chadwick. 24:42.202 --> 24:51.785 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we learn that he's reporting to Starfleet intelligence They've put him on this mystery mission and he explains how he's he's finally made contact with the syndicate 24:52.826 --> 24:57.232 [SPEAKER_01]: and we do learn in the scene that five undercover agents have been killed already. 24:57.712 --> 24:59.835 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's what Miles is doing. 24:59.855 --> 25:02.318 [SPEAKER_01]: He's undercover here, so this is a very risky. 25:03.606 --> 25:05.248 [SPEAKER_02]: job assignment for him. 25:05.708 --> 25:13.696 [SPEAKER_01]: One thing that's important in the scene is that we learn that O'Brien's mission is to identify the syndicates Starfleet informants. 25:13.756 --> 25:20.943 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's somebody in Starfleet who's feeding information to the Orion syndicate and that's his job. 25:20.983 --> 25:22.424 [SPEAKER_01]: That's Miles, Miles is job. 25:22.584 --> 25:22.844 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 25:23.665 --> 25:24.205 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. 25:24.666 --> 25:37.174 [SPEAKER_02]: We do jump to ops after this scene and because the chief is undercover, everything that the chief usually works on or fixes on dis-nine is now breaking down. 25:37.274 --> 25:46.840 [SPEAKER_02]: So we see we see a scene where a cork and Odo show up to talk to Major Kira about the issues that they're having. 25:46.860 --> 25:51.162 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the shot, by the way, that reveal like bringing Odo and then handing 25:52.703 --> 25:59.112 [SPEAKER_01]: actor who leads us to quark and then quark pulls us back into the two-shot really well done that that opening. 25:59.847 --> 26:00.027 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:00.167 --> 26:03.770 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was concerned about internal security sensors that are malfunctioning. 26:03.870 --> 26:12.557 [SPEAKER_02]: Quark is concerned about a fire suppression system in the bar affecting him serving these flaming cocktails that are very popular. 26:13.018 --> 26:13.478 [SPEAKER_02]: Very funny. 26:13.498 --> 26:21.385 [SPEAKER_01]: What you mentioned, Armin, you mentioned you're like, you wouldn't believe how much people pay for some alcohol burning alcohol or something. 26:21.445 --> 26:22.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, you're right. 26:22.766 --> 26:23.947 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, be right about that. 26:24.957 --> 26:30.200 [SPEAKER_01]: people pay so much extra for nothing more than just lighting the alcohol on fire. 26:30.440 --> 26:30.660 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 26:30.940 --> 26:31.660 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a show. 26:31.760 --> 26:33.221 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the show they're paying for. 26:33.601 --> 26:45.247 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but shared also shows up and of course, Kira guesses, let me guess my function, the infirmary, but she just says, how did you know at this point, the turbo lift comes up and doesn't come all the way up. 26:45.287 --> 26:50.469 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a very stunning, very funny, orphan, and dacks are in there. 26:50.649 --> 26:52.310 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the way it normally worked by the 26:54.351 --> 26:56.932 [SPEAKER_02]: like that was always a very Cherokee right. 26:57.932 --> 27:10.057 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look that way in the final product but yeah oftentimes in rehearsal it was it was that I don't think it ever stopped midway but right but it does in this shot but it was a Cherokee right. 27:10.377 --> 27:23.508 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what impressed me the most, we have Warf and Dax inside there and they're talking about Warf saying there's something wrong with the Turbuliv, but the most impressive part was Terry Ferrell using her arms and her triceps to pop herself out of the Turbuliv. 27:23.568 --> 27:25.389 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was very athletic, of course. 27:25.409 --> 27:29.573 [SPEAKER_00]: She had been, because we went to the gym together, not to get out of the same time. 27:29.653 --> 27:29.833 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:29.933 --> 27:30.753 [SPEAKER_00]: She was very powerful. 27:30.954 --> 27:31.414 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes. 27:31.734 --> 27:33.075 [SPEAKER_00]: Brian had trained her very well. 27:34.156 --> 27:35.937 [SPEAKER_00]: Clearly. 27:36.658 --> 27:38.999 [SPEAKER_02]: And then she's the one that helps warfare out of there, which is great. 27:39.079 --> 27:43.181 [SPEAKER_02]: So everything is falling apart on the station without the chief. 27:43.241 --> 27:46.403 [SPEAKER_00]: And that was a little hard to, you know, get my head around. 27:46.483 --> 27:47.204 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. 27:47.264 --> 28:01.632 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like really seeing dozens of people working for O'Brien, including ROM, including Nog, and other people who actually during the course of the run of the show who've had lines, and they weren't killed off. 28:02.192 --> 28:07.657 [SPEAKER_00]: So why is it that a Brian is the only person that can fix this stuff? 28:08.097 --> 28:10.899 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, they make, they make the station over the top. 28:10.939 --> 28:14.402 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the station is this broken down jalapi, his what it is. 28:14.842 --> 28:15.923 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's not the case. 28:16.243 --> 28:19.206 [SPEAKER_02]: And also, Armin, I did not like Quarks Line. 28:19.726 --> 28:21.928 [SPEAKER_02]: He must have left my idiot brother in charge. 28:22.448 --> 28:26.571 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's already been established that your brother is of, of Wunderkind. 28:26.632 --> 28:27.913 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he knows everything. 28:28.013 --> 28:30.535 [SPEAKER_02]: So if anything, he is the perfect person. 28:31.135 --> 28:33.437 [SPEAKER_02]: to be left in charge of the station. 28:33.497 --> 28:36.058 [SPEAKER_01]: So that line seemed looped to me too. 28:36.178 --> 28:36.499 [SPEAKER_01]: Really? 28:36.519 --> 28:36.819 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't. 28:37.159 --> 28:38.240 [SPEAKER_01]: It did. 28:38.680 --> 28:39.501 [SPEAKER_02]: It was off camera. 28:39.541 --> 28:39.861 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember? 28:40.081 --> 28:40.842 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't pay. 28:41.282 --> 28:41.782 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe. 28:41.802 --> 28:42.843 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 28:43.463 --> 28:51.769 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, it just seemed like the writers forgot about how much they have lauded the capabilities of your brother. 28:52.009 --> 28:55.011 [SPEAKER_02]: And now you have that line, which is sort of demeaning in a way. 28:55.111 --> 28:56.172 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was weird to me. 28:56.443 --> 29:01.069 [SPEAKER_01]: I am looking to see if that line about ROM is in the original script. 29:01.589 --> 29:02.190 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 29:02.210 --> 29:02.390 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:02.650 --> 29:03.331 [SPEAKER_01]: It was looped. 29:03.391 --> 29:04.713 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not an original script. 29:06.563 --> 29:07.083 [SPEAKER_01]: Good for you. 29:07.124 --> 29:07.624 [SPEAKER_02]: Good for you. 29:07.884 --> 29:08.184 [SPEAKER_02]: Good for you. 29:08.205 --> 29:09.145 [SPEAKER_02]: Good catch, Robbie. 29:09.366 --> 29:16.392 [SPEAKER_01]: Even to your point, Garrett, even more odd that they would add that line, hello with in hindsight. 29:16.412 --> 29:17.793 [SPEAKER_02]: They should already know that. 29:17.833 --> 29:18.194 [SPEAKER_02]: You're right. 29:18.414 --> 29:21.076 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the next scene is we go in the captain's office. 29:21.116 --> 29:25.520 [SPEAKER_01]: And Bashir is very worried about a Brian asks Cisco what's what he's doing. 29:25.600 --> 29:31.786 [SPEAKER_01]: And Cisco just won't talk about it refuses to reveal what O'Brien's location is, but he does assure Bashir. 29:32.533 --> 29:33.853 [SPEAKER_01]: that the chief will be fine. 29:33.893 --> 29:36.874 [SPEAKER_01]: He can take care of himself as well as anyone I know. 29:37.734 --> 29:41.155 [SPEAKER_01]: Cisco says, this is the only Cisco scene, right? 29:41.675 --> 29:41.875 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 29:42.735 --> 29:43.095 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 29:43.295 --> 29:49.157 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say everyone got a nice little vacation during this episode, except for, obviously, call them. 29:49.377 --> 29:50.137 [SPEAKER_00]: Step for shit. 29:50.357 --> 29:50.577 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:50.757 --> 29:51.637 [SPEAKER_00]: And call them a question. 29:51.657 --> 29:52.557 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but sit a little bit. 29:52.577 --> 29:54.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Sit actually a little bit more to do than the rest of the day. 29:55.238 --> 29:55.658 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. 29:55.678 --> 29:55.918 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 29:56.038 --> 29:57.098 [SPEAKER_01]: I wish he had had more to do. 29:57.138 --> 30:00.139 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about that in the bonus material, but I had some thoughts about that. 30:00.279 --> 30:07.823 [SPEAKER_01]: We go to the tavern next, and Bill Bees there, Crowl Flyth is there, they're playing cards, when O'Brien comes in. 30:08.343 --> 30:10.444 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got this equipment, he's repaired it. 30:10.664 --> 30:17.148 [SPEAKER_01]: And he is now basically establishing himself as a very useful fix-it-man, and Bill Bees impressed. 30:17.308 --> 30:22.470 [SPEAKER_01]: He thinks, you know, maybe he could join the Orion Syndicate. 30:22.831 --> 30:26.973 [SPEAKER_01]: He notices he's aware that Miles has been down as luck. 30:27.713 --> 30:38.342 [SPEAKER_01]: Going through some hard times, Billby says, I might ask myself how a tinker living in one room in a genami street managed to fix such a complicated piece of hardware so quickly. 30:38.542 --> 30:39.703 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's looked into him already. 30:40.043 --> 30:41.264 [SPEAKER_01]: He's already looked into him. 30:41.624 --> 30:43.286 [SPEAKER_01]: So he knows he's down and out. 30:43.386 --> 30:44.647 [SPEAKER_01]: He's done his research. 30:45.107 --> 30:46.989 [SPEAKER_01]: Billby says, I know a lot about you. 30:47.689 --> 30:50.792 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe more than you want me to know but come with me. 30:51.515 --> 30:56.737 [SPEAKER_01]: and he takes him back to his apartment where he introduces O'Brien to his home life. 30:57.437 --> 30:59.858 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got his beloved cat Chester there. 31:00.138 --> 31:02.079 [SPEAKER_01]: Billby offers some of his wife's cake. 31:02.319 --> 31:11.662 [SPEAKER_01]: I like when Miles takes a bite of it and Billby's not watching and he's like, oh, this is horrible, but he's pretending that it's really good initially. 31:12.615 --> 31:14.536 [SPEAKER_01]: which I thought was a funny little bit. 31:14.776 --> 31:20.538 [SPEAKER_01]: We learned that Bilby's family all live in New Sydney, which I thought was interesting. 31:21.178 --> 31:24.559 [SPEAKER_01]: On this planet that they have Australian city name. 31:24.860 --> 31:31.562 [SPEAKER_00]: I found that strange too about the new Sydney and from a moment I thought, well, there's Nick Tate Australian, then I think, no, that's not right. 31:31.642 --> 31:38.885 [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed oddly earth-centric and specific to earth, and I didn't think the Orion Syndicate was like, 31:39.905 --> 31:42.186 [SPEAKER_01]: an earth organization. 31:42.246 --> 31:44.367 [SPEAKER_02]: It was more of a, I don't know. 31:44.928 --> 31:46.729 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it is a earth organization, though. 31:46.889 --> 31:48.330 [SPEAKER_01]: Then why is it new Sydney? 31:48.470 --> 31:49.710 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not a planet, though. 31:49.890 --> 31:54.713 [SPEAKER_02]: They live on, I think there is various, they're on ferious right now. 31:54.793 --> 31:57.895 [SPEAKER_02]: His family is an all whole another planet, probably, 31:58.907 --> 31:59.327 [SPEAKER_02]: probably. 31:59.647 --> 32:01.768 [SPEAKER_02]: And he is, Billby is human. 32:01.888 --> 32:02.328 [SPEAKER_02]: He is. 32:02.648 --> 32:05.729 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm going to actually now track it off. 32:06.209 --> 32:06.529 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:06.869 --> 32:08.069 [SPEAKER_01]: That helps a lot. 32:08.109 --> 32:10.110 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:10.190 --> 32:11.910 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:12.130 --> 32:14.431 [SPEAKER_02]: He is the only human that we see in the syndicate. 32:14.451 --> 32:14.591 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:14.891 --> 32:19.032 [SPEAKER_02]: Even Raymond isn't Raymond's alien to Raymond has some weird stuff on his face, doesn't he? 32:19.072 --> 32:19.332 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:19.532 --> 32:19.672 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:19.692 --> 32:19.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:20.763 --> 32:21.003 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 32:21.304 --> 32:28.912 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in fact, I wonder if it's interesting, I hadn't thought about that, but Billby's hanging out with a lot of alien types. 32:29.352 --> 32:31.354 [SPEAKER_01]: And in a way, Miles is human. 32:31.414 --> 32:34.497 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, he kind of can connect with him in a way. 32:35.358 --> 32:37.300 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a human down and out like me. 32:37.380 --> 32:40.163 [SPEAKER_01]: I always had bad luck, because Billby talks about that later on. 32:40.424 --> 32:40.864 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't know. 32:41.745 --> 32:42.725 [SPEAKER_01]: He's never had good love. 32:42.745 --> 32:44.586 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's something they missed. 32:44.906 --> 32:46.467 [SPEAKER_00]: They should have played that up a little. 32:46.707 --> 32:48.548 [SPEAKER_02]: They come rotary from human to human, right? 32:48.568 --> 32:49.608 [SPEAKER_02]: There should have been something there. 32:49.648 --> 32:50.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 32:50.529 --> 32:50.989 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:51.289 --> 32:53.490 [SPEAKER_02]: We earthers need to stay together or something like that. 32:53.650 --> 32:53.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever. 32:54.510 --> 32:54.970 [SPEAKER_01]: Something. 32:54.990 --> 32:55.571 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:55.611 --> 32:55.931 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:55.951 --> 32:56.251 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 32:56.371 --> 32:57.471 [SPEAKER_01]: I really, I get you. 32:57.531 --> 32:58.612 [SPEAKER_01]: I see what you're going through. 32:58.652 --> 32:59.772 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing for me. 32:59.832 --> 33:00.853 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt alone. 33:00.913 --> 33:01.133 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 33:01.413 --> 33:02.914 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the only human out here. 33:03.134 --> 33:03.394 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 33:03.694 --> 33:03.934 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 33:03.954 --> 33:04.914 [SPEAKER_01]: That would have helped a lot. 33:05.134 --> 33:10.337 [SPEAKER_01]: Billby does mention that he's pays his monthly fare, which smells like fair. 33:10.377 --> 33:10.937 [SPEAKER_01]: What is that? 33:11.617 --> 33:16.060 [SPEAKER_01]: basically it's his, um, I guess, big, big. 33:16.380 --> 33:17.001 [SPEAKER_01]: His big. 33:17.021 --> 33:17.321 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 33:17.441 --> 33:21.283 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the obligation to the syndicate to be part of this criminal organization. 33:21.303 --> 33:25.966 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to pay a percentage of his earnings to his direct superior. 33:26.247 --> 33:29.068 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost like MLM multi-level marketing in a way. 33:29.189 --> 33:31.610 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what it compiles a pyramid scheme. 33:31.630 --> 33:34.192 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, pyramid screen scheme and mafia organization. 33:34.212 --> 33:38.334 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he says some miles, you know, you can be part of this, too, if you play your 33:39.375 --> 33:42.238 [SPEAKER_01]: from business to more to family. 33:42.258 --> 33:45.781 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh Brian starts to see Bill B is like three dimensional person. 33:45.861 --> 33:47.923 [SPEAKER_01]: He sees how much he loves his family. 33:48.183 --> 33:50.405 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a photo of his family there. 33:50.685 --> 34:03.556 [SPEAKER_02]: I do like the beat between them where he kind of asked about that cake from his wife because do you really like this and he's like, it's too dry and it's the first person to actually, to be honest, be honest, yeah. 34:03.576 --> 34:05.698 [SPEAKER_02]: So then more bonding between these two. 34:05.898 --> 34:07.640 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a line in here that 34:08.280 --> 34:12.423 [SPEAKER_00]: that paid off later for me says something about YouTube could be lucky. 34:12.624 --> 34:21.110 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Bill B believes that as he says at the end of the episode that it's luck had changed and you took the be lucky. 34:21.331 --> 34:22.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that. 34:22.411 --> 34:27.956 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not possible, but I re years later went on to do a movie called Lucky. 34:28.813 --> 34:29.273 [SPEAKER_01]: Really? 34:29.393 --> 34:29.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really? 34:30.273 --> 34:32.694 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he says at the very end of the scene. 34:32.714 --> 34:33.875 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, what do you make of that? 34:33.935 --> 34:35.515 [SPEAKER_01]: Chester talking to the cat. 34:35.795 --> 34:39.276 [SPEAKER_01]: I finally found an honest man must be my lucky day. 34:39.356 --> 34:39.916 [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. 34:39.936 --> 34:40.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 34:40.357 --> 34:44.358 [SPEAKER_01]: And we as the audience know, nobody is not your lucky day. 34:46.114 --> 34:47.914 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the undercover agent. 34:48.034 --> 34:49.615 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the most unlucky day. 34:49.755 --> 35:07.878 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, depending on the casting of that character, that could have been a really sort of nefarious line reading, but because they got Nittate who has just an immediate kindness to him, even though he's playing a syndicate person. 35:07.958 --> 35:08.979 [SPEAKER_00]: A mafia guy, yeah. 35:09.219 --> 35:11.459 [SPEAKER_00]: We sort of feel badly for him, at least I did. 35:11.739 --> 35:15.660 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I did, to me, for him that he's mistaken miles for the real thing. 35:15.900 --> 35:16.541 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 35:17.481 --> 35:22.005 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was inadvertent, but it worked well for the story in a way. 35:22.085 --> 35:25.748 [SPEAKER_00]: Charlie would not have brought that real sort of humanity. 35:25.868 --> 35:29.832 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a wonderful actor, but that is in his 40, who wasn't his 40. 35:30.432 --> 35:30.632 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:31.033 --> 35:32.554 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I liked Nick a lot. 35:32.574 --> 35:41.741 [SPEAKER_01]: I found, and I was surprised when I looked up his IMDB to see that he hadn't had more big series regular roles. 35:42.022 --> 35:42.442 [SPEAKER_01]: Space 1999 was 35:45.304 --> 35:53.457 [SPEAKER_01]: the biggest, the most episodes that he had of any show he had ever done, but he's so charming and warm and, you know, interesting. 35:53.477 --> 35:54.378 [SPEAKER_01]: I was surprised. 35:54.959 --> 35:57.222 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to say something very prejudicial. 35:58.024 --> 35:59.125 [SPEAKER_00]: It's because of his height. 36:01.596 --> 36:02.176 [SPEAKER_00]: Take it for me. 36:02.776 --> 36:04.497 [SPEAKER_00]: It's height because he's short. 36:05.157 --> 36:06.997 [SPEAKER_01]: He's short of stouture. 36:07.237 --> 36:08.297 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's yeah. 36:08.577 --> 36:09.938 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I know that's a gear. 36:10.038 --> 36:11.178 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that's a surprise. 36:11.498 --> 36:15.438 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it from someone who's also, uh, challenge that way. 36:15.679 --> 36:16.559 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 36:17.859 --> 36:21.160 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't hire short actors all the time for good roles like this. 36:21.200 --> 36:23.600 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes for comic roles, I suppose. 36:24.020 --> 36:25.700 [SPEAKER_00]: But, but this is not a comic role. 36:25.740 --> 36:28.901 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a really genuine human role you may have. 36:29.801 --> 36:33.185 [SPEAKER_02]: Robby, did you recognize him right off the bat from space 1999? 36:33.465 --> 36:34.446 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I had to go. 36:34.807 --> 36:48.842 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I had to go look at his I'm DB But once I I really liked him a lot, that's why I went digging a little deeper, and I was so happy to see I was like, oh my show, my childhood, when I was ten years old, I loved that show. 36:49.142 --> 36:50.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:50.263 --> 36:52.325 [SPEAKER_02]: Is Nick Tate still alive, did you see that as well? 36:52.345 --> 36:52.766 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. 36:52.786 --> 36:53.186 [SPEAKER_02]: He is. 36:53.466 --> 36:53.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 36:54.027 --> 36:54.227 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:54.728 --> 36:57.671 [SPEAKER_02]: Nick is from what I found out. 36:57.731 --> 36:58.271 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 78. 36:58.411 --> 36:58.712 [UNKNOWN]: I think. 36:59.052 --> 36:59.492 [SPEAKER_00]: Got it. 36:59.613 --> 37:02.936 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was surprised that I had never run into him off camera. 37:03.556 --> 37:04.377 [SPEAKER_00]: I am too. 37:04.978 --> 37:06.039 [SPEAKER_00]: I've never worked with him. 37:06.099 --> 37:12.085 [SPEAKER_00]: I've never, you know, because this is an actor that I should have known, that I should know. 37:13.005 --> 37:13.205 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 37:13.245 --> 37:26.111 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would I would have guessed my instinct was that you ran in the same circles that you would know each other and we would audition or you and maybe we did maybe maybe we were in the same audition rooms, but I had with some of us. 37:26.391 --> 37:29.153 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, were you a chatter in the audition room? 37:29.233 --> 37:31.234 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, that's I wasn't either. 37:31.254 --> 37:31.774 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no. 37:32.032 --> 37:34.434 [SPEAKER_00]: I would find a corner and stay in the corner until they called my name. 37:34.554 --> 37:41.040 [SPEAKER_01]: Back when they used to have lots of people showing up in person for auditions, and you see a lot of the same faces over and over again. 37:41.060 --> 37:41.600 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 37:41.941 --> 37:51.929 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, there were two types of people, though, the type of people that walk around the corner down the hall to everybody and know everybody and they would just be chatting, oh my gosh, how are you? 37:52.009 --> 37:52.310 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 37:52.370 --> 37:54.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Saw you on this and I saw you on that. 37:54.952 --> 37:55.713 [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on? 37:55.753 --> 37:56.774 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you finish that thing? 37:57.598 --> 38:09.010 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was that those chatters and then there was the people like me or it sounds like you are and who would find the furthest seat away and just sit down and try to Try to concentrate. 38:09.030 --> 38:09.150 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah 38:09.441 --> 38:15.325 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we go back out to the alley again, very nice oneer, Allen Eastman did a great job in this scene. 38:16.786 --> 38:21.770 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles gets the parts that he needs to fix that device. 38:22.591 --> 38:23.932 [SPEAKER_01]: He gets those from Chadwick. 38:25.073 --> 38:27.554 [SPEAKER_01]: And he asked Chadwick if he can see his family. 38:28.175 --> 38:29.416 [SPEAKER_01]: Could he talk to his wife? 38:29.756 --> 38:31.397 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let her know he's okay. 38:32.298 --> 38:34.760 [SPEAKER_01]: And Chadwick says no, not yet, but we can't risk it. 38:34.860 --> 38:35.140 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry. 38:36.277 --> 38:43.243 [SPEAKER_01]: And so Miles goes back to work to his mission inside the tavern, the very dark tavern. 38:43.603 --> 38:50.249 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles gives them these disruptors that he's fixed, the weapons, these clink undisruptors that he's fixed. 38:51.170 --> 38:53.191 [SPEAKER_01]: And Bill B. asks where he got the parts. 38:53.211 --> 38:54.833 [SPEAKER_01]: He gets really angry with him. 38:54.873 --> 38:56.574 [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of surprised me in this moment. 38:56.614 --> 39:02.319 [SPEAKER_01]: Like grabs him by the collar and Miles lies and said he stole them. 39:03.137 --> 39:05.860 [SPEAKER_01]: and Billby thinks he's protecting him. 39:06.500 --> 39:09.683 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, you didn't tell me you stole them in case you got caught. 39:09.703 --> 39:10.844 [SPEAKER_01]: Then I'd be clean. 39:11.085 --> 39:12.186 [SPEAKER_01]: Billby tells his buddies. 39:12.206 --> 39:13.227 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, did you hear that? 39:13.567 --> 39:15.969 [SPEAKER_01]: He's willing to protect me if he gets caught. 39:16.950 --> 39:17.971 [SPEAKER_01]: Try as hard as I may. 39:17.991 --> 39:20.193 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine either of you willing to do that. 39:20.273 --> 39:20.533 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 39:20.974 --> 39:27.540 [SPEAKER_01]: Billby's just getting sucked into this fantasy that in a way that miles is his, you know. 39:27.903 --> 39:29.345 [SPEAKER_01]: this great guy and this good friend. 39:29.565 --> 39:33.370 [SPEAKER_01]: Billby ends this scene by saying, I think it's time we did something about the way you look. 39:33.630 --> 39:35.012 [SPEAKER_01]: We cut to a nice transition. 39:35.072 --> 39:45.845 [SPEAKER_01]: Alan Eastman tilts up off of Miles crossing his feet, you know, in some shiny shoes and tilting up this fancy outfit that Miles is wearing. 39:46.526 --> 39:50.270 [SPEAKER_01]: Which by the way, we never see the shoes that we wear on the show. 39:50.330 --> 39:51.891 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the right fit, right? 39:52.172 --> 39:54.014 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was nice to see the shoes. 39:54.214 --> 39:56.396 [SPEAKER_01]: We hardly ever see feet on people. 39:56.636 --> 40:03.103 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes in a wide shot, I know actors who will if the shot is tight and you can't see their feet, they'll wear like slippers or 40:03.603 --> 40:04.284 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Tim Rusty. 40:04.304 --> 40:04.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:04.664 --> 40:04.964 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:04.984 --> 40:05.184 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:05.204 --> 40:05.444 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:05.464 --> 40:05.704 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:05.765 --> 40:06.045 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:06.065 --> 40:06.265 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:06.305 --> 40:06.645 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:06.665 --> 40:06.945 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:06.965 --> 40:07.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:07.246 --> 40:07.566 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:07.626 --> 40:07.886 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:07.906 --> 40:08.306 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:08.346 --> 40:08.767 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:08.807 --> 40:09.307 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:09.327 --> 40:09.687 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:09.707 --> 40:10.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Rusty. 40:10.127 --> 40:10.548 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:10.568 --> 40:11.148 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:11.208 --> 40:12.149 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:12.349 --> 40:12.669 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:12.709 --> 40:13.089 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:13.129 --> 40:13.570 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:13.610 --> 40:13.950 [SPEAKER_01]: Tim Rusty. 40:32.493 --> 40:36.621 [SPEAKER_02]: Armond, do you recall there's an episode of DS9 where an alien with a very similar... 40:37.459 --> 40:41.300 [SPEAKER_02]: prosthetic that came all the way down he from the nose to the chin. 40:41.420 --> 40:42.581 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was covering the mouth. 40:42.601 --> 40:46.282 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was in an episode where I think it might have been with your character where he was. 40:46.522 --> 40:50.124 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's playing sort of a heavy in that as well. 40:50.244 --> 40:53.305 [SPEAKER_02]: So was it the same alien makeup or similar? 40:53.545 --> 40:54.325 [SPEAKER_02]: Very similar. 40:54.465 --> 40:57.266 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that same piece that came all the way down. 40:57.346 --> 41:01.688 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the name is Razian's that the people the guys thrown darks at themselves. 41:02.868 --> 41:04.991 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, those are nozakans, but nozakans. 41:05.311 --> 41:13.280 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that but this was a whole different nozakans haven't been crazy here that came out this this was literally I've seen the same little. 41:13.420 --> 41:15.722 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's reports on DS9. 41:15.802 --> 41:18.926 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't blame Michael, you know, how many he's done? 41:19.346 --> 41:19.606 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 41:20.527 --> 41:22.949 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna have to repeat stuff every now and then exactly. 41:23.069 --> 41:23.330 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:23.530 --> 41:44.627 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so Yent, this alien that has the rubber over his mouth comes in and Bilby says he wants his money back because these disruptors didn't work and Yent, this alien goes oh well, they worked when I gave him to you and Bilby pushes a couple of buttons shoots him in the leg Yeah, and then he's like, oh, I guess they're working now. 41:44.687 --> 41:45.228 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right 41:45.651 --> 41:45.811 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 41:46.151 --> 41:50.695 [SPEAKER_01]: And after he shoots him in the leg, he tells the saline, you know what could have happened to me? 41:50.915 --> 41:54.257 [SPEAKER_01]: If Raymus got three useless disruptors, he would have killed me. 41:54.438 --> 41:55.198 [SPEAKER_01]: So he kills him? 41:55.338 --> 41:56.419 [SPEAKER_01]: He kills him, yeah. 41:56.939 --> 41:58.320 [SPEAKER_02]: Well Brian does try to stop him, though. 41:58.501 --> 41:59.161 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, Billby? 41:59.261 --> 42:00.122 [SPEAKER_02]: He knows what's about time. 42:00.162 --> 42:01.243 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he tried. 42:01.283 --> 42:03.725 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was concerned, but I don't think he tried. 42:04.785 --> 42:12.149 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I think we saw in this face that this was disturbing, but didn't really make an effort. 42:12.209 --> 42:12.929 [SPEAKER_00]: Why should he? 42:14.270 --> 42:15.471 [SPEAKER_00]: It would have been very hard. 42:15.571 --> 42:17.492 [SPEAKER_01]: It could have blown his cover again. 42:17.792 --> 42:17.952 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 42:17.972 --> 42:20.613 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he protested then without physically trying to stop. 42:20.733 --> 42:21.534 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes. 42:21.654 --> 42:22.034 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 42:22.134 --> 42:24.956 [SPEAKER_01]: So the next scene, we go back to Billby's apartment. 42:24.996 --> 42:29.078 [SPEAKER_01]: There's thunder and lightning outside and Billby's getting a little 42:30.095 --> 42:33.277 [SPEAKER_01]: a little reminiscent, but a little thoughtful. 42:33.317 --> 42:34.338 [SPEAKER_01]: He's having some deep thoughts. 42:34.438 --> 42:36.540 [SPEAKER_00]: And we get a nice close up by the way of Chester. 42:36.720 --> 42:44.286 [SPEAKER_02]: We too, but the during this opening monologue, I kept thinking, is this his just him talking to himself because we see Chester? 42:44.786 --> 42:47.388 [SPEAKER_02]: We hear Bill Bees from beginning of this speech. 42:47.648 --> 42:49.750 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't see Al Bryan until he moves. 42:50.070 --> 42:52.432 [SPEAKER_01]: He takes his jacket off, the camera moves. 42:52.492 --> 42:54.073 [SPEAKER_01]: It takes a while before it's the miles. 42:54.173 --> 42:57.715 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, interesting, interesting way of shooting it, for sure. 42:58.908 --> 43:06.611 [SPEAKER_01]: But he says, you know, I wish I could have, could leave this life, this criminal life sometimes, but he can't, no, he can't leave it. 43:07.032 --> 43:08.932 [SPEAKER_00]: So we, we get billed be a conscience. 43:09.733 --> 43:09.933 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:10.113 --> 43:10.413 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 43:10.893 --> 43:12.954 [SPEAKER_00]: Which makes him more amenable to the viewer. 43:13.214 --> 43:13.414 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:14.075 --> 43:18.437 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think like, like you said, Armin, I like the charm this actor had. 43:18.477 --> 43:22.899 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the character was written very sympatheticly and very, three-dimensionally. 43:24.275 --> 43:28.779 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the audience is feeling a lot like miles in this episode. 43:28.819 --> 43:29.800 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is a good guy. 43:29.840 --> 43:30.820 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a bad guy. 43:30.840 --> 43:31.741 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 43:31.761 --> 43:34.043 [SPEAKER_01]: He mentions his daughter's birthday in this. 43:34.463 --> 43:39.147 [SPEAKER_01]: And so you really start to feel like miles and don't be or becoming real friends. 43:39.988 --> 43:44.550 [SPEAKER_00]: And doesn't Miles ask him, well, why don't you give up this life, and he says, I'm too old to start over. 43:44.710 --> 43:45.350 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 43:45.910 --> 43:46.411 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 43:46.671 --> 43:46.931 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 43:47.251 --> 43:51.873 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Billby kind of, it slips out that they have people everywhere, even in Starfleet. 43:52.053 --> 43:53.614 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a Brian's mission. 43:55.294 --> 43:59.076 [SPEAKER_01]: So he asks, you know, he says, wow, Starfleet really. 44:01.875 --> 44:06.076 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles even says, well, maybe he's a double agent, and he'll be like, double agent. 44:06.156 --> 44:14.178 [SPEAKER_01]: No, then why would they give us the name of all the undercover operatives, which was a little worrisome because Miles is an undercover operative right now. 44:14.198 --> 44:16.799 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're like, wait a minute, this could go. 44:16.819 --> 44:20.880 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's one of the thoughts in the script right there. 44:20.900 --> 44:21.200 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought, 44:22.059 --> 44:41.295 [SPEAKER_00]: you know this guy would be smart enough not to do that to even if it's somebody he trusted or is beginning to trust it's a little too early to spill out all this information yeah well if this was a real professional criminal he would not let his guard down as easily as he does with miles it happens pretty quickly 44:41.475 --> 44:42.615 [SPEAKER_02]: But this explains a lot though. 44:42.635 --> 44:50.837 [SPEAKER_02]: The five Starfleet Intelligence agents who were killed, now we know why is because of this information that's leaked. 44:50.977 --> 44:54.558 [SPEAKER_02]: And now we know why, because my whole question is, why would they go to open Ryan? 44:54.898 --> 44:59.439 [SPEAKER_02]: And now we know, because if you go within the organization, that name will be known. 44:59.519 --> 45:05.240 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you find someone who is not part of intelligence, which is what Chief of Brian is, then you're safe. 45:07.142 --> 45:15.445 [SPEAKER_01]: And we do learn that Ramus met this Starfleet operative when he was vacationing on Riza last year. 45:16.445 --> 45:20.847 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Starfleet person was in charge of the weather control system there. 45:20.947 --> 45:24.909 [SPEAKER_01]: Ramus offered him a lot of money to make it stop raining. 45:25.429 --> 45:29.630 [SPEAKER_01]: So now they know who this Starfleet agent is. 45:29.890 --> 45:30.951 [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be pretty easy. 45:31.011 --> 45:35.753 [SPEAKER_01]: So to me, I was like, oh, well, the Miles' thing is done here. 45:37.567 --> 45:46.690 [SPEAKER_01]: Which felt like a pretty easy wrap up and you know, I wasn't sure where the story was going to go after this, but but he's got the information he needs. 45:46.870 --> 45:48.150 [SPEAKER_01]: That was his assignment. 45:48.810 --> 45:53.792 [SPEAKER_02]: I also like the throwback of the one episode we did see with Ryza. 45:54.412 --> 45:57.373 [SPEAKER_02]: There was that issue with the weather control system. 45:57.433 --> 45:58.053 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember that. 45:58.093 --> 45:59.754 [SPEAKER_02]: That was the whole part of the plot. 45:59.954 --> 46:03.195 [SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, that throwback kind of tracks here as well. 46:04.495 --> 46:09.498 [SPEAKER_00]: and they ratchet up the anxiety again by him getting a phone call saying Ram is wants to see you. 46:09.859 --> 46:10.979 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly. 46:11.500 --> 46:13.081 [SPEAKER_01]: So you think Miles is done. 46:13.141 --> 46:18.564 [SPEAKER_01]: We think our stories over, but as dramatic timing would have it, a phone call comes in. 46:18.984 --> 46:20.845 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. 46:20.925 --> 46:23.727 [SPEAKER_01]: Ram is wants to see Bill be immediately. 46:24.528 --> 46:27.209 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles is even like, wait, it's the middle of the night, really? 46:27.229 --> 46:27.810 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 46:27.850 --> 46:28.030 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 46:28.590 --> 46:28.770 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 46:28.790 --> 46:29.591 [SPEAKER_01]: It could be about. 46:29.891 --> 46:33.334 [SPEAKER_01]: So we cut to the tavern and the barman is there. 46:34.455 --> 46:36.056 [SPEAKER_01]: We see three people beam in. 46:37.498 --> 46:38.459 [SPEAKER_01]: One is very alien. 46:38.479 --> 46:40.801 [SPEAKER_01]: They're all in black suits. 46:40.921 --> 46:42.922 [SPEAKER_01]: These are Ryan Syndicate. 46:43.803 --> 46:44.483 [SPEAKER_01]: Man in black. 46:44.883 --> 46:45.764 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, men in black. 46:45.904 --> 46:46.104 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 46:46.664 --> 46:48.284 [SPEAKER_01]: But Ramissa arrives with the vorta. 46:48.364 --> 46:49.385 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a vorta with him. 46:49.605 --> 46:50.345 [SPEAKER_01]: The plot thickens. 46:50.545 --> 46:50.985 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 46:51.725 --> 46:56.046 [SPEAKER_01]: He reveals that the Orion Syndicate is secretly working with the Dominion. 46:56.607 --> 47:00.768 [SPEAKER_01]: This, the presence of a vorta there says a lot. 47:01.028 --> 47:02.188 [SPEAKER_01]: It explains a lot. 47:02.368 --> 47:06.429 [SPEAKER_00]: I had thought with this was that it's too early for a vorta. 47:07.810 --> 47:08.090 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, 47:09.742 --> 47:10.922 [SPEAKER_00]: They're beaming into a bar. 47:10.962 --> 47:12.263 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't know how many people are in a bar. 47:12.363 --> 47:19.364 [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that they're revealing the fact that they're a part of the dominion just seemed a shotty shotty. 47:19.644 --> 47:32.126 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like, I mean, maybe I'm showing my hand too early, but it seems like the writing of this jumps around the lot without really covering an emotional arc in as deep a way as it can. 47:32.826 --> 47:34.387 [SPEAKER_01]: It jumps around with stuff like that. 47:34.407 --> 47:35.287 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you're saying there. 47:35.307 --> 47:35.487 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, 47:37.593 --> 47:46.520 [SPEAKER_01]: with the word of just beaming in, out of nowhere, it feels like miles should be the ones sort of driving this stuff happening, you know? 47:46.620 --> 47:47.060 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 47:47.180 --> 47:53.045 [SPEAKER_00]: And we find out later in the scene, you know, don't tell anybody that a word it was with us. 47:53.465 --> 47:57.688 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to keep that a secret, don't bring it with you. 47:57.728 --> 47:58.849 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't be, man, man. 47:59.890 --> 48:09.400 [SPEAKER_01]: But if it had been Miles driving it, Miles hadn't had a suspicion that they might be working with the Vorda, and he lowered the Vorda there. 48:09.640 --> 48:18.209 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, tell your boss, tell him, remiss that, you know, if the Vorda comes, maybe they, I don't know, it should have been driven by Miles, more as my point. 48:18.549 --> 48:24.994 [SPEAKER_00]: It just put us on a new track, which was, we wanted to find out who killed the five teleportations. 48:25.695 --> 48:28.557 [SPEAKER_00]: Now all of a sudden, there's a new mystery here. 48:28.677 --> 48:30.458 [SPEAKER_00]: Why are they working with it, Dominion? 48:30.919 --> 48:31.859 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 48:32.780 --> 48:33.421 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true. 48:34.001 --> 48:38.985 [SPEAKER_01]: But it just felt, it felt clunky to me the way that these things sort of landed. 48:40.317 --> 49:01.596 [SPEAKER_02]: But I, I, okay, I know you guys have problems with this, but for me, it was very important to see this border because now, this whole time I kept thinking, is this just an homage to Casablanca, some, you know, film noir, and then outlier episode, which doesn't have anything to do with the rest of DS9, but now we see how, 49:03.607 --> 49:21.637 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess how much the dominion is invested in messing up the alliance or the Starfleet alliance between the Klingons and Starfleet and how much they want to orchestrate and really try to cause issues without really knowing that they're causing issues in those areas. 49:21.657 --> 49:30.222 [SPEAKER_02]: So it to me, it was added an extra layer which I thought, oh okay, well now this episode makes sense which may be rated higher actually than I would have if I didn't have 49:32.823 --> 49:37.208 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like the idea of the Vort of the Dominion working with the Orion Syndicate. 49:37.248 --> 49:37.488 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 49:37.589 --> 49:41.012 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think it was played out orchestrated. 49:41.253 --> 49:46.799 [SPEAKER_01]: Count, you know, the way that the events of this episode happen felt bumpy to me. 49:46.839 --> 49:48.521 [SPEAKER_01]: They just felt like clunky and... 49:48.921 --> 49:50.981 [SPEAKER_01]: a little shoddy to use your word there. 49:51.402 --> 49:52.522 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, make sense. 49:53.142 --> 49:54.002 [SPEAKER_02]: There is a bit of trivia. 49:54.082 --> 49:58.203 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a new transporter effect that was designed for this scene where Ramus beams in. 49:58.403 --> 49:59.303 [SPEAKER_01]: I wondered about that. 49:59.343 --> 50:00.463 [SPEAKER_01]: It sounded different. 50:00.503 --> 50:01.904 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it looked different. 50:02.144 --> 50:05.585 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the other thing that happens in this scene is that Bill B. 50:06.085 --> 50:08.545 [SPEAKER_01]: Witnesses for O'Brien. 50:08.725 --> 50:11.086 [SPEAKER_02]: A Ramus is very, you know, wary. 50:11.146 --> 50:12.086 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, who is this? 50:12.186 --> 50:12.946 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't trust him. 50:12.966 --> 50:15.927 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, well, I witnessed for him. 50:16.227 --> 50:17.167 [SPEAKER_02]: I vouch for him. 50:17.627 --> 50:23.530 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's all that's needed in this Orion syndicate because once you've found it for somebody, it's just verbal. 50:23.590 --> 50:27.071 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to prove anything else because if you're wrong, then you die. 50:27.311 --> 50:28.432 [SPEAKER_02]: You end up getting killed. 50:28.532 --> 50:29.352 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's right. 50:29.492 --> 50:29.712 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 50:30.393 --> 50:30.873 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. 50:31.613 --> 50:32.534 [SPEAKER_01]: So big deal. 50:32.834 --> 50:39.597 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll be has vouched for miles of Brian as being a safe person and a trustworthy person for them. 50:40.297 --> 50:41.138 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a big deal. 50:41.358 --> 50:41.618 [SPEAKER_01]: Huge. 50:41.839 --> 51:01.235 [SPEAKER_01]: We go back out into the alley where Miles is meeting with his contact and He reports about this Dominion connection that the Dominion's working with their Ryan Syndicate and He does identify the Starfleet officer that leaked the information the Ryze guy so Chadwick says well that'll be easy to figure out 51:01.969 --> 51:10.712 [SPEAKER_01]: But he orders him, you know, that mission is technically complete, but you're going to have to stay here longer and discover what the dominion wants. 51:11.072 --> 51:12.253 [SPEAKER_00]: Is not what he's signed up for? 51:12.473 --> 51:18.575 [SPEAKER_01]: No, suddenly the mission has changed and he can't, he still can't call Kiko, he can't call him. 51:21.080 --> 51:29.972 [SPEAKER_02]: the question that I now have after thinking about this is what is Starfleet doing on Ryza controlling the weather system? 51:29.992 --> 51:31.634 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I'm saying? 51:31.694 --> 51:34.538 [SPEAKER_02]: Ryza is not part of Starfleet's domain. 51:34.698 --> 51:37.522 [SPEAKER_02]: It is an independent pleasure planet colony. 51:38.283 --> 51:49.472 [SPEAKER_02]: So there shouldn't be any Starfleet involvement at all unless this person was a civilian who then later joined Starfleet That's the only other way I can explain it, but I'm a little excellent point Garrett excellent point. 51:49.652 --> 51:49.972 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. 51:50.092 --> 51:52.294 [SPEAKER_02]: I learned by nitpicking from the best arm and you 51:55.986 --> 51:58.347 [SPEAKER_01]: We go back to the very dark tavern. 51:58.587 --> 52:00.188 [SPEAKER_01]: Have I mentioned it's dark in this town? 52:00.208 --> 52:13.793 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes 52:14.457 --> 52:16.459 [SPEAKER_01]: They're downloading and a Brian's helping them. 52:16.479 --> 52:17.439 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles is helping them. 52:17.960 --> 52:25.125 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's kind of proving that he's trustworthy by participating in this This bank ice. 52:25.365 --> 52:26.987 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and not just any old bank. 52:27.007 --> 52:33.291 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the the Bolian bank the bank the entire bank of Bolias basically Yeah, so huge deal. 52:33.431 --> 52:34.672 [SPEAKER_01]: I like the jokes at the end. 52:34.692 --> 52:40.296 [SPEAKER_01]: They basically this is a scene about them robbing a bank and a Brian's still playing along and getting in deeper with them 52:41.237 --> 52:45.120 [SPEAKER_01]: But at the end, Billby says, you know, there was thinking about opening an account there. 52:45.340 --> 52:47.802 [SPEAKER_01]: And Miles says, well, maybe you should go with the different banks. 52:48.042 --> 52:49.123 [SPEAKER_01]: One with better security. 52:49.463 --> 52:49.863 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 52:51.144 --> 52:51.665 [SPEAKER_02]: Very funny. 52:51.845 --> 52:52.725 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 52:52.865 --> 52:56.248 [SPEAKER_01]: After their bank robbery, we go back to Billby's apartment and there's a... 52:56.857 --> 53:19.074 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... young woman in the background bill be talks to miles in the foreground says he's basically he's hired an escort for miles and miles is freaking out he's like no no no i've got a girlfriend doesn't he ask or what really what's her name this is where he says oh yeah he's in her name is kimiko he's so he's kind of stays close to you know he adds a lot a couple more syllables 53:20.135 --> 53:27.644 [SPEAKER_01]: but Miles does pay the girl to leave and has a very awkward goodbye which I thought was funny where he walks her to the door. 53:28.525 --> 53:29.366 [SPEAKER_01]: What does he say? 53:29.466 --> 53:31.168 [SPEAKER_01]: He says thanks for coming over. 53:31.668 --> 53:36.293 [SPEAKER_01]: It was really nice to meet you as he's walking around. 53:36.734 --> 53:38.396 [SPEAKER_01]: I just found that I laughed out loud. 53:38.436 --> 53:39.297 [SPEAKER_01]: It was very funny. 53:40.151 --> 53:47.276 [SPEAKER_02]: And for all of you budding secret agents out there, that's how you make your lies work if they're based in truth. 53:47.376 --> 53:50.038 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Kimico, very close to CACO. 53:50.479 --> 53:53.661 [SPEAKER_02]: She works where a flower shop at CACO was a botanist. 53:53.701 --> 53:56.983 [SPEAKER_02]: So, this is a way to not get caught exactly. 53:57.164 --> 53:59.485 [SPEAKER_01]: But, Billby says, Miles should get married. 53:59.725 --> 54:00.006 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 54:00.026 --> 54:08.532 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is again reinforcing that that Billby is a good guy and he's a family man, that family is really important to him. 54:09.385 --> 54:12.967 [SPEAKER_01]: And Bilby does brag about how well he reads people. 54:13.427 --> 54:18.069 [SPEAKER_01]: And he says he really feels sorry for miles, but he promises to take care of him. 54:18.089 --> 54:22.911 [SPEAKER_01]: He says there's nothing like family, nothing more important. 54:23.832 --> 54:28.034 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we're starting to like, Bilby more and more and more so as miles. 54:30.800 --> 54:37.666 [SPEAKER_01]: We cut into the alley for another meet-up with Chadwick where Miles is really worrying about building now. 54:37.706 --> 54:43.691 [SPEAKER_01]: He's starting to develop a real friendship and Chadwick says, Billby chose all this. 54:43.751 --> 54:45.072 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not your fault. 54:45.092 --> 54:47.734 [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever happens, he'll probably end up in Federation Prison. 54:47.794 --> 54:48.875 [SPEAKER_01]: That's our plan. 54:48.895 --> 54:50.356 [SPEAKER_01]: He can't save this guy. 54:50.376 --> 54:51.777 [SPEAKER_01]: He got himself into this mess. 54:51.977 --> 54:52.978 [SPEAKER_00]: And Miles accepts that. 54:53.078 --> 54:58.102 [SPEAKER_01]: We go back into the tavern where the whole gang, our criminal gang, would Billby 55:00.344 --> 55:10.791 [SPEAKER_01]: I always hated those scenes where you had to walk into a room, you know, or on an action suddenly, everybody's supposed to be laughing as this spontaneous, yes, yes. 55:11.011 --> 55:12.472 [SPEAKER_01]: That's very difficult. 55:12.532 --> 55:15.854 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought about that, too, but I thought they did it pretty well, actually. 55:15.874 --> 55:17.235 [SPEAKER_00]: They did pretty well, yeah, I believed it. 55:17.255 --> 55:17.956 [SPEAKER_00]: I believed it. 55:18.236 --> 55:20.037 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Ramison, the Vorda are there. 55:20.097 --> 55:21.318 [SPEAKER_01]: They surprised the gang. 55:21.959 --> 55:24.060 [SPEAKER_01]: They suspect that there's a traitor among them. 55:24.080 --> 55:25.121 [SPEAKER_01]: They line them up. 55:26.002 --> 55:31.547 [SPEAKER_01]: It does look like the word goes over, looks each of them in the eye, and then points to miles. 55:32.348 --> 55:41.336 [SPEAKER_01]: But the bartender comes around behind him and shoots filth, fliff, nuts, fliff, I said you did it too. 55:41.937 --> 55:44.679 [SPEAKER_01]: I did it, I did it, I did it, not filth. 55:44.940 --> 55:47.502 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the bartender is the one which confused me. 55:47.602 --> 55:50.224 [SPEAKER_01]: Like why is the bartender shooting him? 55:50.525 --> 55:51.345 [SPEAKER_01]: When they beamed in, 55:52.046 --> 55:52.746 [SPEAKER_01]: the group of them. 55:53.287 --> 55:53.487 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 55:53.567 --> 55:58.309 [SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't the Bolian guy also with them in the initial beam in. 55:58.469 --> 56:04.552 [SPEAKER_02]: And then now, because I thought, okay, this is the heavy crossing behind the bar and coming around and shooting. 56:04.632 --> 56:06.153 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think he was the bartender. 56:06.253 --> 56:07.594 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I could see that. 56:07.954 --> 56:12.796 [SPEAKER_00]: I would go with Garrett, because when you said bartender shooting, and I went, that's not the way I remember it, but I could be wrong. 56:12.956 --> 56:13.497 [SPEAKER_00]: So, but if 56:14.657 --> 56:15.317 [SPEAKER_00]: I would tell you. 56:15.337 --> 56:16.538 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Garrett's probably right. 56:16.658 --> 56:26.801 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm guessing there was a boolean with them the first time they've been there was so that's why this guy But the way he crossed in it looked like he came from the bar so in the bar. 56:26.861 --> 56:31.823 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so you're not wrong Robbie They just look like the bartender and the bartender is a boolean. 56:32.343 --> 56:39.346 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so I think there's a boolean bartender and there's a boolean heavy So there's two booleans, but I what I was guessing, but maybe I'm right. 56:39.486 --> 56:41.687 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you never want to have two booleans 56:43.789 --> 56:45.550 [SPEAKER_01]: They can only be one bolly in person. 56:45.971 --> 56:46.571 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 56:47.292 --> 56:48.293 [SPEAKER_01]: It's very confusing. 56:48.373 --> 56:49.934 [SPEAKER_01]: But they do kill Flith. 56:50.174 --> 56:54.477 [SPEAKER_01]: We learn that he neglected to pay his fair. 56:54.698 --> 56:57.100 [SPEAKER_01]: His big, his whatever. 56:57.140 --> 57:04.305 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he engaged in some business on the side and anytime you do any side business, it doesn't matter what business it is. 57:04.325 --> 57:05.406 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to pay it. 57:05.466 --> 57:06.787 [SPEAKER_02]: The big on that too. 57:07.107 --> 57:09.049 [SPEAKER_02]: So he cheated them. 57:09.597 --> 57:12.298 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, poor flith is dragged out of the room. 57:12.598 --> 57:16.459 [SPEAKER_01]: And Raymas and Galnon give Billby a very dangerous new job. 57:16.579 --> 57:23.040 [SPEAKER_01]: It's to assassinate a cling on ambassador, use those disruptors that that miles fixed. 57:23.340 --> 57:27.021 [SPEAKER_01]: We learned this complicated plan involves gauron. 57:27.421 --> 57:29.082 [SPEAKER_01]: Gauron is supporting the alliance. 57:29.522 --> 57:32.923 [SPEAKER_01]: There's this other guy, this ambassador that doesn't support the alliance. 57:32.983 --> 57:36.684 [SPEAKER_01]: So if there's an assassination and they blame it on gauron 57:37.890 --> 57:41.733 [SPEAKER_01]: this guy looked like a martyr and it'll help break up the alliance, basically. 57:41.753 --> 57:42.673 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're trying to do. 57:43.274 --> 57:43.434 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 57:43.654 --> 57:54.141 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's the Klingon ambassador to Ferris, who earlier it was he who provided the coils to fix the disruptors to the area. 57:54.201 --> 57:56.762 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's so, so many layers going on. 57:56.802 --> 57:58.063 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's very complicated. 57:58.083 --> 57:58.363 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 57:58.564 --> 58:00.585 [SPEAKER_01]: They do say the murder has got to be carried out with 58:00.705 --> 58:06.673 [SPEAKER_01]: clinging on weapons, the killing will appear to be have been ordered by Gauron, corrects the logic there. 58:06.893 --> 58:10.077 [SPEAKER_02]: I did like the dragging out of Flith's corpse though. 58:10.237 --> 58:14.342 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just like, it was like, spready, spready gold. 58:15.003 --> 58:16.325 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just one of those. 58:19.048 --> 58:20.149 [SPEAKER_02]: I did like the Vortaline. 58:20.189 --> 58:24.974 [SPEAKER_02]: He said where he says I never realized how much the Dominion and the Orion Syndicate have in common. 58:25.555 --> 58:29.278 [SPEAKER_02]: It seems that in both organizations loyalty is everything. 58:29.578 --> 58:35.984 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just it was a nice line there Yeah, who was this Vortal actor was it the first time we've seen this actor? 58:36.045 --> 58:38.006 [SPEAKER_00]: No, he was in the previous episode. 58:38.026 --> 58:38.307 [SPEAKER_00]: I think 58:41.910 --> 58:42.811 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was very good. 58:43.051 --> 58:45.333 [SPEAKER_00]: Armin, what was he doing in the prior episode? 58:45.353 --> 58:45.993 [SPEAKER_00]: You recall? 58:46.094 --> 58:46.934 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to remember. 58:46.954 --> 58:47.355 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't. 58:47.955 --> 58:54.040 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't, but I remember a reading sound familiar that he had been in a previous episode. 58:54.601 --> 58:58.684 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy, Robbie, that I said, oh, I thought it was Iggy Pop again. 58:58.704 --> 58:59.705 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember that one? 58:59.945 --> 59:01.767 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I remember Iggy Pop. 59:01.807 --> 59:02.087 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 59:02.607 --> 59:04.169 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the new board of that we met. 59:04.269 --> 59:05.270 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is this. 59:05.310 --> 59:06.871 [SPEAKER_00]: His name is Leland Crook. 59:07.531 --> 59:07.852 [SPEAKER_00]: Leland. 59:07.872 --> 59:08.352 [SPEAKER_00]: I like them. 59:08.392 --> 59:08.532 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 59:09.707 --> 59:20.369 [SPEAKER_01]: he did a good job to lay a lund he did a great job and it seems like all of these vorta are based on Jeffries first interpretation of what a vorta is like Jeffries. 59:20.389 --> 59:20.569 [SPEAKER_01]: Jeffries. 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border once and when she was cast, the first person she called was Jeff. 59:52.174 --> 59:52.534 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it. 59:52.554 --> 59:53.034 [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. 59:53.074 --> 59:54.015 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't even ask me. 59:54.115 --> 59:55.675 [SPEAKER_00]: She went straight to Jeff. 59:56.756 --> 59:57.796 [SPEAKER_02]: What do I do with this? 59:58.897 --> 59:59.317 [SPEAKER_02]: I love it. 59:59.737 --> 01:00:01.318 [SPEAKER_02]: Which probably all these actors did. 01:00:01.338 --> 01:00:02.298 [SPEAKER_02]: They probably all know Jeff. 01:00:02.319 --> 01:00:03.559 [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, we'd be able to call it. 01:00:03.579 --> 01:00:04.860 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they probably don't know Jeff. 01:00:05.860 --> 01:00:09.063 [SPEAKER_01]: We cut back out to the alley meet-up spot. 01:00:09.144 --> 01:00:12.447 [SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say hook-ups spot, but that's a different kind of meet-up. 01:00:12.867 --> 01:00:14.148 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a whole different episode, right? 01:00:14.249 --> 01:00:17.552 [SPEAKER_01]: We cut up to the alley where O'Brien and Chadwick meet again. 01:00:19.031 --> 01:00:41.261 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... and a brine tells them about this plan to sassination and Chadwick decides he's not going to arrest billby's group instead starfleet will warn the clingsons and allow the clingsons to deal with the syndicate themselves and uh... a brine feels really bad about this he's angry he's not happy at all yeah he's not happy because he knows that uh... billby's going to be killed 01:00:42.342 --> 01:00:54.103 [SPEAKER_01]: and that he's responsible you know this is not he's become his friend and he doesn't want bill be to be killed and Chadwick says you know what thanks for the hard work but you're done with us now we've gotten what we need 01:00:54.990 --> 01:00:59.972 [SPEAKER_01]: This is gonna play out, you're gonna go home and miles punches him in the face, knocks him out. 01:01:00.653 --> 01:01:07.336 [SPEAKER_02]: And before, what preface the punch is, O'Brien says, Chadwick, this is what we learned the name. 01:01:07.656 --> 01:01:13.478 [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess this really pulled me out because I'm thinking, why give him the country club name? 01:01:13.678 --> 01:01:14.899 [SPEAKER_02]: Why did you do this? 01:01:14.919 --> 01:01:18.401 [SPEAKER_02]: Chadwick, Chadwick, yes, and he turns and punches him right there. 01:01:18.701 --> 01:01:21.022 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Chadwick, if you've got to do it, 01:01:21.762 --> 01:01:23.683 [SPEAKER_02]: Your tea time is about to happen now. 01:01:23.723 --> 01:01:24.903 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's a buffet. 01:01:25.724 --> 01:01:28.405 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell Chad work that the tea time. 01:01:28.945 --> 01:01:31.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Ormalname for this episode, sorry. 01:01:32.227 --> 01:01:35.148 [SPEAKER_00]: I particularly like that he interchange the winner. 01:01:35.288 --> 01:01:40.110 [SPEAKER_00]: What Chadwick reminds Miles that the Ryan Syndicate are the ones that deserve to be murdered. 01:01:40.390 --> 01:01:43.412 [SPEAKER_00]: Bill B. and his friends are the ones who murder people, not us. 01:01:43.472 --> 01:01:47.914 [SPEAKER_00]: He says, Moss says, no, we just get the cling on to do it for us. 01:01:48.674 --> 01:01:50.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Miles lost your perspective. 01:01:50.296 --> 01:01:59.864 [SPEAKER_00]: I like seeing black and white in characters and what I'm seeing in this is not so much that the characters are black and white But that the starfleet itself the organization. 01:01:59.924 --> 01:02:08.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as it's shady sides as well Exactly Completely they're not as upstanding as we thought, you know, that's what you see. 01:02:08.472 --> 01:02:10.774 [SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody's hands are completely clean. 01:02:11.074 --> 01:02:11.315 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope 01:02:11.935 --> 01:02:15.238 [SPEAKER_01]: ever in in Star Trek over in life, that's true. 01:02:15.438 --> 01:02:17.080 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so true. 01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:18.862 [SPEAKER_01]: We go back to Billby's apartment. 01:02:19.102 --> 01:02:21.204 [SPEAKER_01]: It is meal time for Chester the cat. 01:02:21.524 --> 01:02:23.286 [SPEAKER_01]: Boy, this cat got a lot of close stuff. 01:02:23.506 --> 01:02:27.290 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got more close ups than Jake did than Jake did. 01:02:27.570 --> 01:02:29.572 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, or that's this good. 01:02:30.052 --> 01:02:31.974 [SPEAKER_00]: And we that's right. 01:02:32.174 --> 01:02:34.656 [SPEAKER_00]: And the cat for this episode was number one on the call. 01:02:34.676 --> 01:02:34.897 [SPEAKER_00]: She. 01:02:35.037 --> 01:02:35.397 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 01:02:35.878 --> 01:02:36.058 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:02:36.601 --> 01:02:37.762 [SPEAKER_01]: He can't have a good agent. 01:02:38.102 --> 01:02:40.424 [SPEAKER_02]: This cat had more lines than some of the series regulars. 01:02:40.464 --> 01:02:42.285 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they got to meow quite a few times. 01:02:42.345 --> 01:02:48.629 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you think it's a train cat, I mean, I watched the cat jump over the sofa and get to whatever it had to. 01:02:49.050 --> 01:02:51.611 [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, oh, they've probably trained that cat. 01:02:51.792 --> 01:02:53.132 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to train a cat. 01:02:53.293 --> 01:02:54.874 [SPEAKER_00]: It's got to be hard to train a cat. 01:02:54.914 --> 01:02:56.635 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cats are very tough to train. 01:02:57.035 --> 01:03:01.218 [SPEAKER_02]: So do you think it was Renee Ishaveria's cat that they just brought on set possibly? 01:03:01.278 --> 01:03:01.518 [SPEAKER_02]: I know. 01:03:01.538 --> 01:03:03.560 [SPEAKER_02]: I really think it was Siroc playing Chester. 01:03:06.003 --> 01:03:07.304 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it, I love it. 01:03:07.564 --> 01:03:09.205 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Tester's getting some food. 01:03:09.245 --> 01:03:11.606 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles is visiting Bill B says he can't go. 01:03:11.906 --> 01:03:13.527 [SPEAKER_01]: He says this is a trap. 01:03:14.448 --> 01:03:15.769 [SPEAKER_01]: And we go to a commercial. 01:03:16.578 --> 01:03:18.039 [SPEAKER_01]: in the old days we went to commercial. 01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:20.600 [SPEAKER_01]: Now we just pause for a second and we come back. 01:03:21.421 --> 01:03:25.243 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles says, you can't go and he admits that he works for Starfleet. 01:03:25.323 --> 01:03:30.586 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles tells Billby, I, yes, I work for Starfleet and Billby freaks out. 01:03:31.067 --> 01:03:33.088 [SPEAKER_01]: He says, I witnessed for you. 01:03:33.388 --> 01:03:33.648 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:03:34.109 --> 01:03:36.110 [SPEAKER_01]: He goes, I'm a dead man. 01:03:36.190 --> 01:03:42.494 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not safe in prison and even if you put me in prison, they're gonna go after my family. 01:03:43.754 --> 01:03:46.116 [SPEAKER_01]: Billby's logic is he just got to play this out. 01:03:46.197 --> 01:03:48.659 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to keep his family safe. 01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:52.682 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to go basically sacrifice himself. 01:03:53.183 --> 01:03:54.023 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great scene. 01:03:54.083 --> 01:03:57.346 [SPEAKER_01]: He realizes that he was a fool to trust miles. 01:03:57.526 --> 01:04:00.709 [SPEAKER_01]: He asked miles to care for Chester and he goes to meet his fate. 01:04:00.989 --> 01:04:01.670 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great scene. 01:04:01.950 --> 01:04:07.614 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very powerful scene, especially because Billby is the one that brings up the whole Starfleet thing. 01:04:07.634 --> 01:04:08.414 [SPEAKER_02]: He says, very good. 01:04:09.555 --> 01:04:11.116 [SPEAKER_02]: When he says, how do you know that? 01:04:11.456 --> 01:04:12.537 [SPEAKER_02]: I suppose you work for them. 01:04:13.017 --> 01:04:14.338 [SPEAKER_02]: Orion says, what if I said I did? 01:04:14.358 --> 01:04:15.699 [SPEAKER_02]: Because very good, you have me. 01:04:15.759 --> 01:04:18.901 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just for a minute, there I actually thought you were working for Starfleet. 01:04:18.981 --> 01:04:22.023 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's this pause when you seal Brian's face. 01:04:22.383 --> 01:04:24.905 [SPEAKER_02]: You pop back to Billby, that Orion says I am. 01:04:24.985 --> 01:04:27.366 [SPEAKER_02]: And it just, it was very moving. 01:04:27.526 --> 01:04:30.148 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought everything was very well done on both actors part. 01:04:30.288 --> 01:04:32.830 [SPEAKER_00]: And Billby says I should really kill you as what I should do. 01:04:33.310 --> 01:04:34.371 [SPEAKER_00]: He does say that. 01:04:34.511 --> 01:04:43.458 [SPEAKER_00]: But no one ever flinch his miles just doesn't think that's going to happen and we'll tell the sheer later on that no, that was never going to happen. 01:04:43.765 --> 01:04:49.848 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he says I, I should probably kill you, but I've already proven that I'm not that smart or something. 01:04:49.888 --> 01:04:54.631 [SPEAKER_01]: He says he said the smart thing to do would be to kill you, but I've already shown I'm not very smart. 01:04:55.051 --> 01:05:05.217 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a way of sort of the writers addressing another option that he could that he thinks about, but then dismissing it with some logic. 01:05:06.137 --> 01:05:10.780 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I thought that was good that they did that because it shows him going through all my choices. 01:05:10.820 --> 01:05:11.320 [SPEAKER_01]: I could do this. 01:05:11.380 --> 01:05:11.841 [SPEAKER_01]: I could do this. 01:05:12.761 --> 01:05:14.344 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not as dumb as he thinks he is. 01:05:14.544 --> 01:05:15.105 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 01:05:15.746 --> 01:05:18.070 [SPEAKER_01]: I do like at the end as he's making his way out. 01:05:18.130 --> 01:05:21.576 [SPEAKER_01]: He says, back home wherever that is. 01:05:22.137 --> 01:05:23.139 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a family? 01:05:23.540 --> 01:05:24.281 [SPEAKER_01]: He asks Miles. 01:05:24.561 --> 01:05:25.443 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles says he got... 01:05:26.097 --> 01:05:28.478 [SPEAKER_02]: Miles is honest, finally he says, yes, I do. 01:05:29.358 --> 01:05:31.658 [SPEAKER_01]: And Billby says, good, that's the most important thing. 01:05:32.578 --> 01:05:34.559 [SPEAKER_01]: So a very sympathetic bad guy. 01:05:34.819 --> 01:05:39.120 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because when he says, oh, Brian says, yes, I have a family. 01:05:39.820 --> 01:05:42.021 [SPEAKER_02]: Billby's all actually relieved. 01:05:42.081 --> 01:05:43.341 [SPEAKER_02]: He's happy for a second. 01:05:43.361 --> 01:05:45.741 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yeah, yeah. 01:05:45.781 --> 01:05:48.262 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, this is what I want for everyone. 01:05:48.282 --> 01:05:50.162 [SPEAKER_02]: Good, have a family, you know, this is great. 01:05:50.242 --> 01:05:52.723 [SPEAKER_02]: And one last thing, look after my cat. 01:05:52.883 --> 01:06:01.469 [SPEAKER_01]: So off Bill Beekos and we cut to an establishing shot of DS9, we're back on the space station, inside of Brian's quarters, Bashir's there. 01:06:01.749 --> 01:06:06.352 [SPEAKER_01]: And Bashir reminds of Brian that he was just doing his job and he didn't have a choice in this. 01:06:06.892 --> 01:06:09.174 [SPEAKER_01]: It was his duty to do this. 01:06:09.874 --> 01:06:18.120 [SPEAKER_01]: And I Brian struggles with that explanation because this mission forced him to betray someone that he genuinely started to like. 01:06:18.180 --> 01:06:18.260 [SPEAKER_01]: He 01:06:19.372 --> 01:06:21.394 [SPEAKER_01]: and Billbee started to trust miles. 01:06:21.995 --> 01:06:26.278 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles started to trust Billbee, and they kind of talk about the morality of all this. 01:06:26.458 --> 01:06:31.002 [SPEAKER_00]: And Bishir does not understand, and Miles does not understand why Bishir does not understand. 01:06:31.503 --> 01:06:32.443 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:06:32.563 --> 01:06:36.006 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very nice code at the end of the episode. 01:06:36.247 --> 01:06:36.467 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 01:06:37.107 --> 01:06:37.468 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 01:06:37.768 --> 01:06:40.370 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we see Chester jumping into a Brian's lap. 01:06:40.570 --> 01:06:40.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 01:06:40.830 --> 01:06:43.933 [SPEAKER_00]: And I forgot in whether Chester continues in the series or not. 01:06:44.257 --> 01:06:52.685 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the same thing I'm wondering, oh, now we're going to see a cat every time we seem about this quarter, but okay, coming in says, who brought this cat in? 01:06:52.826 --> 01:06:54.467 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm allergic to convoluting cats. 01:07:00.762 --> 01:07:12.879 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they tell us the theme, so I think I will just use the theme that they gave us, which is family is the most important thing, or by association, people you care for, but family is the most important thing. 01:07:12.899 --> 01:07:16.784 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very good, and that was mine as well, Robbie. 01:07:17.845 --> 01:07:18.886 [SPEAKER_01]: Mine's a little different. 01:07:19.406 --> 01:07:24.469 [SPEAKER_01]: The theme I got from this is doing the right thing can sometimes be very painful. 01:07:24.729 --> 01:07:25.269 [SPEAKER_01]: True as well. 01:07:25.469 --> 01:07:26.650 [SPEAKER_01]: Miles was doing the right thing. 01:07:26.690 --> 01:07:39.157 [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing his duty as a Starfleet officer and he was doing the right thing because what was going on, what they needed to stop was this nefarious plan by the Dominion and a criminal organization. 01:07:39.197 --> 01:07:40.118 [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing the right thing. 01:07:40.138 --> 01:07:40.538 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:07:41.570 --> 01:07:46.392 [SPEAKER_01]: in the big picture, but on the personal level, it was very hard and very painful for them. 01:07:46.892 --> 01:07:51.994 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not Miles responsible in a different way that we've totally forgotten about. 01:07:52.534 --> 01:07:56.695 [SPEAKER_00]: If he had not fixed to the disruptors, Miles fixed the disruptors. 01:07:57.055 --> 01:07:57.256 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:07:57.496 --> 01:08:03.818 [SPEAKER_00]: If he had not fixed to the disruptors, the plan against the Klingon ambassador could not have gone through. 01:08:04.498 --> 01:08:05.459 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true. 01:08:05.779 --> 01:08:06.780 [SPEAKER_01]: Life is complicated. 01:08:07.140 --> 01:08:07.960 [SPEAKER_01]: That's my theme. 01:08:08.201 --> 01:08:09.762 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to I'm going to restate my theme. 01:08:09.902 --> 01:08:10.102 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 01:08:10.122 --> 01:08:13.044 [SPEAKER_00]: My theme is life is complicated. 01:08:13.104 --> 01:08:13.664 [SPEAKER_00]: Life is complicated. 01:08:13.684 --> 01:08:14.445 [SPEAKER_00]: Even on various. 01:08:14.805 --> 01:08:17.006 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, which is not a pleasure. 01:08:17.147 --> 01:08:18.407 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's funny. 01:08:18.627 --> 01:08:23.110 [SPEAKER_01]: Fairious is the name of the planet and they are nefarious people. 01:08:23.451 --> 01:08:25.232 [SPEAKER_02]: I bet that's where they got the name from. 01:08:25.512 --> 01:08:29.896 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go with the Patreon Paul winner for theme slash less and slash more of this episode. 01:08:30.076 --> 01:08:34.500 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we do, how much would you like to bet that they agree with Garrett and I? 01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:35.461 [SPEAKER_00]: That's about the theme. 01:08:35.481 --> 01:08:36.822 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the family is all important. 01:08:37.122 --> 01:08:39.184 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go to family for some reasons. 01:08:39.284 --> 01:08:39.805 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know. 01:08:39.965 --> 01:08:41.226 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not that obvious to me. 01:08:41.326 --> 01:08:45.030 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was an eherituality, but I didn't think it was the theme. 01:08:45.210 --> 01:08:45.490 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 01:08:45.510 --> 01:08:46.331 [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna lesson. 01:08:46.951 --> 01:08:47.592 [SPEAKER_02]: And here we go. 01:08:47.952 --> 01:08:49.153 [SPEAKER_02]: From Alex Ray. 01:08:50.254 --> 01:08:57.124 [SPEAKER_02]: The theme slash less and slash more of this episode is, justice isn't simple when there's a human face on it. 01:08:57.144 --> 01:09:02.011 [SPEAKER_02]: So they did not follow us, Armin, on that one, and honorable mention, Robbie. 01:09:02.391 --> 01:09:07.819 [SPEAKER_01]: Honorable mention is submitted by Stephanie B, and that is don't get involved with the Orion Syndicate. 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:08.599 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 01:09:09.339 --> 01:09:10.040 [SPEAKER_01]: Very smart. 01:09:10.180 --> 01:09:10.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:11.180 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 01:09:11.500 --> 01:09:16.061 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the end of our podcast, our recap and discussion of honor among thieves. 01:09:16.301 --> 01:09:18.482 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you again to Armin for co-hosting with this. 01:09:18.522 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