WEBVTT 00:00.655 --> 00:02.837 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get ready to talk to me! 00:06.240 --> 00:10.924 [SPEAKER_00]: This show is brought to you by The Mekery, the podcast Network for Mekers. 00:20.292 --> 00:25.116 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go and I'll go and I'll go and I'll talk your favorite knife-related podcast. 00:25.508 --> 00:28.509 [SPEAKER_04]: especially on this German festival and I'm Jeff Fader for Fader Knives. 00:28.869 --> 00:34.652 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm here with Rekomomasi, Momasi Fire Arts, and Craig Lockwood of Chop Knives. 00:34.692 --> 00:37.853 [SPEAKER_04]: This is a weekly podcast, several last week. 00:38.093 --> 00:39.193 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 00:40.074 --> 00:40.874 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 00:40.894 --> 00:41.894 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 00:41.914 --> 00:43.455 [SPEAKER_04]: That interacts with our listeners. 00:43.475 --> 00:51.198 [SPEAKER_04]: If you have questions about knife-making, we talk about dilemmas, we talk about all sorts of stuff, and we're here almost every week. 00:52.380 --> 00:59.842 [SPEAKER_04]: Guys 99% of weeks how are you how's everybody how's every record how are you feeling a lot better now? 01:00.242 --> 01:02.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh good tell you that okay good. 01:02.823 --> 01:15.047 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, let's see We had a small conversation about food and bathrooms just for the podcast, but anyway Let's see the last week. 01:15.427 --> 01:17.707 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see Monday actually this last week's been cool. 01:17.947 --> 01:19.368 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I guess it's been last couple weeks 01:20.228 --> 01:22.569 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but uh, what was it? 01:22.709 --> 01:25.609 [SPEAKER_02]: On Monday and Tuesday, I was actually back up in Bellingham. 01:25.690 --> 01:28.030 [SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned a few weeks, or maybe a got it. 01:28.110 --> 01:33.712 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess it was maybe two months ago, I was working with Nick Anderson and Josh with Prince. 01:34.012 --> 01:35.612 [SPEAKER_02]: We went to Bob Graham or shop. 01:35.872 --> 01:36.432 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:36.992 --> 01:42.974 [SPEAKER_02]: I went back up there to do some kind of like, and Jeff, you might be more familiar with this. 01:43.014 --> 01:46.835 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, when it comes to like, metal sculpture, you kind of have a, 01:47.832 --> 02:10.749 [SPEAKER_02]: kind of infrastructure underneath kind of the more visually compelling aspects the kind of basically a frame and we were up there working on this project, the sculpture project that Bob and several other makers had started like 15 years ago and and so but it needed some work to kind of get it to a more 02:11.610 --> 02:28.799 [SPEAKER_02]: a suitable place so that it can start basically being embellished and so Nick Anderson in Joshua Prince and I went up and did some work with Bob at his shop so you get that two good place we also get the we spent some time hanging out with his apprentice Jess 02:30.180 --> 02:34.363 [SPEAKER_02]: and did some forging alongside with her and making some steel and stuff it was cool. 02:34.744 --> 02:40.709 [SPEAKER_02]: But it was only like a two maybe three-day thing, two-and-a-half-day thing. 02:41.390 --> 02:46.634 [SPEAKER_02]: And we didn't get all of the structural aspects of the frame finished. 02:47.295 --> 03:05.650 [SPEAKER_02]: so I went back up on Monday and Tuesday and did that to just tidy that up and just hang out do some side-by-side, forging with Jess, she's learning more about kind of like forging integrals and stuff like that, and yeah, it was good, it was a good time. 03:05.670 --> 03:05.911 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice! 03:06.431 --> 03:11.196 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good food, good company, and yeah, I think it's fun. 03:11.616 --> 03:16.762 [SPEAKER_02]: Other than that, I'm like playing with this idea of making this bread knife. 03:16.822 --> 03:18.063 [SPEAKER_02]: That I mentioned this before too. 03:18.564 --> 03:23.148 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically, I had a, I had this chef's knife that's been laying around my shop. 03:23.208 --> 03:24.490 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a big-ass chef's knife. 03:25.311 --> 03:29.054 [SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was a new experiment on a pattern essentially. 03:29.074 --> 03:29.175 [SPEAKER_02]: It's 03:29.775 --> 03:36.607 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a way to make a feather pattern without making a hot cutting effect like the steel. 03:36.787 --> 03:39.071 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all just forging manipulation. 03:40.448 --> 04:00.706 [SPEAKER_02]: With the way I set up the pattern, there's a lot of extra black on the outside, so the feather down through the middle of the blade ends up only being like maybe an inch wide, maybe even a lot narrower, maybe three quarters of an inch, and then it's just all this black, and I just it was not tickling my fancy, and I was like, what the fuck am I going to do with this thing? 04:00.746 --> 04:02.028 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, wait a second, 04:02.669 --> 04:04.811 [SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of did started doing some drawing on it. 04:04.831 --> 04:05.792 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, holy shit. 04:05.892 --> 04:07.573 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there could be a bread knife in here. 04:07.613 --> 04:13.818 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I did that, I took the step and I just ground a ton of material away to reprofoil it. 04:14.058 --> 04:18.862 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's gonna be the next thing on the The Old Workbench. 04:19.583 --> 04:20.144 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool. 04:20.344 --> 04:21.625 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 04:21.645 --> 04:23.526 [SPEAKER_02]: And I haven't officially made 04:24.502 --> 04:26.927 [SPEAKER_02]: I've made one bread knife, but it was more like a prototype. 04:26.967 --> 04:34.741 [SPEAKER_02]: It was actually I made it before I came and worked with you Jeff and was showing you at least just like my I brought it on that show. 04:37.222 --> 04:37.602 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 04:37.702 --> 04:38.142 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. 04:38.242 --> 04:39.423 [SPEAKER_04]: I brought it on Epicureus. 04:39.543 --> 04:40.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you did. 04:40.723 --> 04:40.983 [SPEAKER_02]: So. 04:42.344 --> 04:44.644 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, I'm yeah. 04:44.684 --> 04:46.725 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my fake like they surprised me. 04:47.165 --> 04:47.765 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god. 04:48.025 --> 04:48.866 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god. 04:49.046 --> 04:49.806 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god. 04:49.826 --> 04:54.507 [SPEAKER_04]: You're bringing me a Damascus bread and if me, well, I brought it down with crisis. 04:54.527 --> 04:55.868 [SPEAKER_04]: The best acting of all time. 04:55.888 --> 04:56.108 [SPEAKER_04]: God. 04:56.548 --> 04:57.528 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's amazing. 04:58.048 --> 05:00.009 [SPEAKER_02]: She's got an award. 05:00.409 --> 05:01.489 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I 05:03.290 --> 05:13.812 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I'm basically doing my first real bread knife because that one is essentially a chef's knife that had been serrated down the full life of the blade. 05:14.172 --> 05:17.793 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so other than that, that's about what I got going on. 05:18.213 --> 05:20.814 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, actually actually actually one last thing. 05:21.474 --> 05:23.954 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sad I miss Maker Camp, so I hope you had a good time and I can't 05:26.995 --> 05:29.917 [SPEAKER_02]: The kid and I still ended up doing some cool maker stuff. 05:30.758 --> 05:33.920 [SPEAKER_02]: He wants to be a win-to-go for Halloween. 05:34.081 --> 05:35.982 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you guys have familiar with what I'm winning. 05:36.262 --> 05:38.544 [SPEAKER_04]: I know that from the X-Men, but that's what it about it. 05:39.465 --> 05:49.613 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so when to go, it comes from Native American lore and mythology, and essentially it is like this tall slender, like emaciated kind of 05:50.735 --> 06:16.865 [SPEAKER_02]: Where Wolf kind of thing except for it has a deer skull for for it's head and it's that's not it's creepy I get out of the knee guys a picture But we he really wants to do this and so we went and got materials and stuff to make his costume and but we found this guy's SKS props on YouTube and he has these What is it like a template for how he cuts out? 06:18.465 --> 06:27.589 [SPEAKER_02]: All these different shapes and basically just puzzles and glues them together to make different costumes and stuff And he does a lot of armor and stuff, but he does some skulls. 06:28.130 --> 06:35.553 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got like a saber tooth cat skull and a wolf skull And he's got this window go skull and It's super fucking cool. 06:35.593 --> 06:40.335 [SPEAKER_02]: And I turned out really well and Victor is really excited to keep making progress because I 06:40.715 --> 06:41.615 [SPEAKER_02]: This will be the first time. 06:42.116 --> 06:50.479 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been kind of the one Helping to lead with getting his costume put together and figured out for Halloween and I think he's coming together good. 06:50.739 --> 06:51.379 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited for it. 06:51.399 --> 06:51.639 [SPEAKER_04]: Nice. 06:51.940 --> 06:52.500 [SPEAKER_04]: Very cool. 06:52.560 --> 06:52.760 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. 06:52.780 --> 06:54.961 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Halloween. 06:55.021 --> 06:56.001 [SPEAKER_05]: He assumed jays. 06:56.481 --> 06:57.242 [SPEAKER_04]: I tell you this. 06:57.942 --> 06:58.202 [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry. 06:58.442 --> 06:58.702 [SPEAKER_05]: Go on. 06:58.842 --> 06:59.182 [SPEAKER_05]: Go for it. 06:59.202 --> 06:59.563 [SPEAKER_05]: Go for it. 06:59.583 --> 06:59.943 [SPEAKER_05]: Go for it. 06:59.963 --> 07:04.425 [SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna say I have an ultimate Halloween tip, but not yet What were you gonna say? 07:04.445 --> 07:04.885 [SPEAKER_04]: I apologize. 07:04.905 --> 07:05.385 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't wait there 07:05.852 --> 07:14.178 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I was just going to say that fast Halloween has come around and I also know when Halloween has come in because we got the DCI, you know, that's coming up as well. 07:14.218 --> 07:15.259 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we'll talk about later. 07:15.279 --> 07:16.920 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure we'll talk about that later. 07:18.201 --> 07:20.883 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I mean, what have I been doing in the last two weeks? 07:21.003 --> 07:24.525 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, well, I've been in the studio all this week. 07:24.745 --> 07:25.646 [SPEAKER_05]: That's why I'm so tired. 07:25.766 --> 07:30.629 [SPEAKER_05]: I got back like early hours this morning after what five, six days in the studio. 07:35.244 --> 07:40.956 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, the one else, I mean, go, I think that's pretty much it really pretty boring around here at the moment. 07:41.858 --> 07:42.038 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 07:42.519 --> 07:43.902 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you guys getting ready for a hauling? 07:45.789 --> 07:46.730 [SPEAKER_05]: the kids are excited. 07:47.130 --> 07:48.171 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the kids, right. 07:48.191 --> 07:53.695 [SPEAKER_05]: What I was growing up, Halloween was wasn't much, what really wasn't much in the UK. 07:54.276 --> 08:09.708 [SPEAKER_05]: Now it's, so it's just, I know it's huge in America, but it's, you know, we're probably in nowhere near that here, but it's just grown so much, and now the kids are more excited about that than Christmas, and, you know, they're planning what they're wearing, we've got a witch and a cat and a wear wolf, there's all these things going on, 08:14.392 --> 08:20.135 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, but when I was a kid, we'd have a, we'd have a sweet, which we'd try and carve like a pumpkin because we couldn't get hold of pumpkins. 08:20.475 --> 08:27.518 [SPEAKER_05]: There'd be a sweet, that was a rock hard, and they used to stink as well, and it was, yeah, it wasn't very good when I was little. 08:27.538 --> 08:29.719 [SPEAKER_02]: It can't imagine why you weren't looking forward to it. 08:29.739 --> 08:31.240 [SPEAKER_02]: The sweet is not, yeah. 08:31.400 --> 08:34.481 [SPEAKER_04]: The sweet is not a sweetish person. 08:34.841 --> 08:36.122 [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no. 08:36.302 --> 08:37.823 [SPEAKER_04]: It's the same sort of gourd. 08:39.384 --> 08:41.845 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know what to sweet it's like, um, don't know what to call it. 08:43.042 --> 08:57.431 [SPEAKER_04]: Let me Google this right Jeff you tell me about what's been going on with you and let me find Well, I have to say there's a I hate the thing about how all you know Hate is the fact that candy comes into the house and You know, we start fucked. 08:57.511 --> 08:58.431 [SPEAKER_04]: We start tasting it. 08:58.612 --> 08:59.512 [SPEAKER_04]: I hate I hate it. 08:59.672 --> 09:03.895 [SPEAKER_04]: It drives me crazy just because I the last thing I need right now is as candy 09:04.695 --> 09:10.500 [SPEAKER_04]: But I saw something that is the unbelievable, this is an unbelievable Halloween candy tip. 09:10.680 --> 09:11.981 [SPEAKER_04]: I could, I can't even believe it. 09:12.001 --> 09:17.966 [SPEAKER_04]: We saw it on the internet and then I went to make her camp and when I came home, my wife says, I brought you something. 09:19.468 --> 09:21.089 [SPEAKER_04]: Do you guys like candy corn at all? 09:22.603 --> 09:25.085 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, sometimes it's not great, right? 09:25.105 --> 09:26.246 [SPEAKER_04]: It's good. 09:26.286 --> 09:27.167 [SPEAKER_04]: You can't afford to go. 09:27.307 --> 09:28.107 [SPEAKER_04]: Can't afford to go. 09:28.127 --> 09:29.929 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like differences here, oh my Jesus. 09:30.089 --> 09:33.992 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, I mean, you know, I ain't in a sweet, but it's completely different. 09:34.012 --> 09:42.138 [SPEAKER_04]: So candy corn is like a little, it's like a little waxy, tiny, it's like a tiny triangle that's supposed to look like a kernel of corn. 09:42.878 --> 09:45.140 [SPEAKER_04]: I guess that's what I always thought it was supposed to be. 09:45.500 --> 09:50.503 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's usually three colors that's usually white and then brown and orange, right? 09:50.783 --> 09:51.764 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a little tiny triangle. 09:51.784 --> 09:55.426 [SPEAKER_04]: If you look it up, you find the flavor of it's just, it's sweet. 09:55.506 --> 10:00.349 [SPEAKER_04]: It's big in the United States, but I don't know 100% sure it's very popular, because it's just for, you know, usually for Halloween. 10:01.090 --> 10:04.352 [SPEAKER_04]: It's very sweet and it has like a waxy texture. 10:05.252 --> 10:09.513 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's nothing you're right home by like if you had a pile of them and you ate a meat feel sick to your stomach. 10:09.713 --> 10:14.614 [SPEAKER_04]: And this is really it's not a whole lot going on except for it's very sweet doesn't have a flavor. 10:15.734 --> 10:19.975 [SPEAKER_04]: Some and every time when I was a kid we get candy coins if you're just like that's the last candy. 10:20.055 --> 10:22.755 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not nobody's interested. 10:23.415 --> 10:30.957 [SPEAKER_04]: If you take a handful of candy coins and a handful of peanuts and mix them together and just eat peanuts and candy 10:32.277 --> 10:33.978 [SPEAKER_04]: It's unbelievably good. 10:34.618 --> 10:36.059 [SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievably good. 10:36.139 --> 10:37.059 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it like a toffee? 10:37.580 --> 10:38.140 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not. 10:38.180 --> 10:41.582 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just like the combination is unbelievable. 10:41.682 --> 10:42.962 [SPEAKER_04]: Even if you don't like candy corn. 10:43.363 --> 10:48.185 [SPEAKER_04]: So Hillary and I got this guy named bag candy corn, we already got through it because we're eating with the fucking peanuts. 10:49.025 --> 10:49.466 [SPEAKER_04]: So... 10:50.426 --> 10:52.148 [SPEAKER_04]: That's number one. 10:52.428 --> 10:53.709 [SPEAKER_04]: Maker Camp was great. 10:54.410 --> 10:55.451 [SPEAKER_04]: We had a great time. 10:56.132 --> 11:00.116 [SPEAKER_05]: Before you go into Maker Camp, before you go into that news just in. 11:00.416 --> 11:03.919 [SPEAKER_05]: A sweet, you'd call it a retabaga. 11:04.100 --> 11:04.880 [SPEAKER_05]: A retabaga. 11:06.387 --> 11:06.847 [SPEAKER_04]: root today. 11:06.888 --> 11:08.069 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what you'd call it. 11:08.249 --> 11:08.349 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 11:08.369 --> 11:08.509 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 11:08.529 --> 11:08.629 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 11:08.989 --> 11:12.813 [SPEAKER_05]: But we can't get hold of pumpkins on the little so we'd use one of them and that's really hard. 11:12.833 --> 11:15.135 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm trying to call for a terrible kid. 11:15.155 --> 11:17.797 [SPEAKER_04]: That's like the worst part of all time. 11:18.538 --> 11:20.199 [SPEAKER_04]: We will price as well. 11:20.259 --> 11:22.041 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, root a bag is for you guys. 11:22.061 --> 11:29.087 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the more traditional for like the Sam Hain holiday to carve some sort of a root vegetable. 11:29.627 --> 11:30.768 [SPEAKER_02]: The white holiday? 11:31.168 --> 11:31.648 [SPEAKER_02]: Sam Hane? 11:32.209 --> 11:32.969 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that is. 11:33.410 --> 11:38.833 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the traditional, I guess, name or term for the, the Gaelic holiday. 11:39.474 --> 11:43.897 [SPEAKER_02]: That has become the Americanized, let's make money off of every fucking thing. 11:44.477 --> 11:46.519 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, is this supposed to be Christmas? 11:47.259 --> 11:48.320 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what you're talking about. 11:48.820 --> 11:49.020 [SPEAKER_04]: No. 11:49.301 --> 11:49.781 [SPEAKER_04]: Halloween. 11:51.584 --> 11:53.005 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I've not heard that link. 11:53.045 --> 11:55.246 [SPEAKER_04]: I'd quickly add a flag on the street straight. 11:55.446 --> 12:01.050 [SPEAKER_05]: This is a three straight years of just met from three different sides, which I don't know anything. 12:01.630 --> 12:03.031 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what you're talking about. 12:03.071 --> 12:05.533 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what you're talking about. 12:05.553 --> 12:10.376 [SPEAKER_02]: They traditionally carve root vegetables in their fucking horrifying because they look like 12:11.216 --> 12:29.671 [SPEAKER_04]: decapitated baby heads they're fucking disgusting but that's where like pumpkin carving comes from Speaking to the parents who I met at bait maker camp when you talk about your children's language remember when you're listening to this it wasn't me it told you wasn't me it wasn't me 12:30.632 --> 12:33.815 [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, so we get to make your camp. 12:33.875 --> 12:34.535 [SPEAKER_04]: It's really great. 12:34.555 --> 12:35.436 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a very autumn. 12:35.856 --> 12:36.697 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a great event. 12:36.717 --> 12:38.158 [SPEAKER_04]: There's tons of people that you know. 12:38.178 --> 12:42.382 [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people's faces that you remember, new friends, old friends. 12:42.542 --> 12:46.265 [SPEAKER_04]: I got a lot of people came up to me and my wife talked listeners who love the podcast. 12:46.765 --> 12:51.289 [SPEAKER_04]: I got some parents who listen to the podcast and they kid sit in the car. 12:51.689 --> 12:53.490 [SPEAKER_04]: They make their parents listen to the guy I didn't think. 12:53.851 --> 12:56.333 [SPEAKER_04]: And then they said, you remember the kid's language? 12:56.473 --> 12:57.574 [SPEAKER_04]: So I apologize. 12:57.594 --> 12:58.775 [SPEAKER_04]: I had to apologize. 12:59.515 --> 13:05.780 [SPEAKER_00]: And say, and also say, to the kid, what do you do when we're going to kid with this goddamn podcast? 13:06.121 --> 13:06.981 [SPEAKER_04]: It ain't for that time. 13:07.041 --> 13:08.683 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a big whole dude. 13:09.143 --> 13:11.365 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't look at your parents going to try and give me probably either. 13:11.985 --> 13:12.686 [SPEAKER_04]: Respectfully. 13:12.726 --> 13:18.531 [SPEAKER_04]: So it was really nice meeting all these people and remembering faces on frankly. 13:19.211 --> 13:20.672 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I might have dementia. 13:20.732 --> 13:26.998 [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't remember everybody's name, but there was one guy who came up to me and talked to me for five minutes that couldn't remember his name. 13:27.018 --> 13:28.118 [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, nice to meet you. 13:28.939 --> 13:32.840 [SPEAKER_04]: He looked at me like I like I hit him over that head of the baseball bat. 13:33.800 --> 13:37.381 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean it was like I don't remember I don't remember hardly, but his name is guy. 13:37.441 --> 13:39.702 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like hey nice to meet you meet you. 13:39.722 --> 13:43.282 [SPEAKER_04]: He was like he was like slightly mortified. 13:43.342 --> 13:53.445 [SPEAKER_04]: I was like I'm sorry I you know and then there's a lot of that and otherwise it was I was just busy jam packed and did demos with total boat and they were very happy. 13:54.085 --> 14:01.528 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I was fooling around the modern forge guys John Cliff and Jesse and Carrie that was always fun And then the tour mech guys were there. 14:01.568 --> 14:17.073 [SPEAKER_04]: They were working their tails off it a great time and then I was great I was there a great time one of the things I can't believe I never have time to walk around and see other things That's the only drag I wish I could have seen all the Our man howling wolf axles there. 14:17.193 --> 14:17.733 [SPEAKER_04]: He was there. 14:17.753 --> 14:22.475 [SPEAKER_04]: He was doing handling putting axes on handles and they were making it was really really cool 14:23.135 --> 14:24.476 [SPEAKER_04]: a lot of stuff that didn't get to see. 14:26.077 --> 14:28.738 [SPEAKER_04]: But the drinking, it's like unbelievable. 14:28.938 --> 14:37.823 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't, um, I, these guys are walking around with cork containers, or top of beer right here with a straw sticking out. 14:37.843 --> 14:39.464 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what I'm talking about. 14:39.504 --> 14:41.946 [SPEAKER_02]: This, they're drinking beer of the straw. 14:42.666 --> 14:45.767 [SPEAKER_04]: Telling you I'm telling you I'm looking at everyone's good. 14:46.247 --> 14:52.210 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't I'm not I can't I can either do I can either have a drink or two or I can get some sleep. 14:52.610 --> 14:53.470 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't do both. 14:53.890 --> 14:56.131 [SPEAKER_04]: So I didn't do any of it I don't drink at all. 14:56.151 --> 14:56.992 [SPEAKER_04]: I too much to do. 14:57.032 --> 14:57.712 [SPEAKER_04]: I was too busy 14:58.753 --> 15:06.602 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, the total boat, and everybody, you know, that stuff, and a good time, meeting lots of people and, uh, who's funny, John is, John and Johnny, and he's so funny. 15:06.782 --> 15:11.007 [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, you guys like, it's just a little big speed to laugh the whole time, there's some stories I can't even tell. 15:11.247 --> 15:17.134 [SPEAKER_04]: They're a little too, I gotta be careful too, because apparently the things I say on this and other podcasts, 15:18.615 --> 15:19.956 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just like I got to like meet them. 15:20.016 --> 15:28.538 [SPEAKER_04]: I got to like pay the piper every time I meet somebody And I don't even know the talking about remember when you said I'm like I have no idea And then I was like and I got a apologize for something. 15:28.558 --> 15:32.819 [SPEAKER_05]: I can't even remember I said So is this when you put you pretend to be drunk then? 15:32.879 --> 15:34.319 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I don't remember a thing. 15:34.539 --> 15:37.180 [SPEAKER_04]: I just I just I got a 15:37.500 --> 15:54.143 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm learning how to, I'm learning that it's like, it's not, it's a wonderful, beautiful community of people, or some of them, dress like little children, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who 15:54.203 --> 16:12.076 [SPEAKER_04]: guys some of these guys when they show up to this thing it's like when a little kid you said your little child going upstairs and get dressed and put on whatever you want and then they got some ski gloves on and they got them cloak on and then they got a fuck that's gonna burn on and try you know everyone's some people are dressed a little bit like 16:12.837 --> 16:20.399 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, like, I thought you were to adult, you know, they got, you know, core containers of beer and they dressed like a five-year-old metal patient. 16:20.519 --> 16:22.519 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like, it's like a super cut beer. 16:22.739 --> 16:23.939 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, dude, it was crazy. 16:24.039 --> 16:28.120 [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, so we had a great time and then I got back to the shot. 16:28.140 --> 16:29.121 [SPEAKER_04]: I got palm on. 16:29.501 --> 16:34.882 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't stay overnight at Maker Camp, just because my sister lived 25 miles away, 25 minutes away. 16:35.282 --> 16:36.042 [SPEAKER_04]: So I stayed with her. 16:36.082 --> 16:36.902 [SPEAKER_04]: That was really nice. 16:36.982 --> 16:39.103 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just really good to spend more time with her. 16:39.163 --> 16:39.463 [SPEAKER_04]: And then, 16:40.363 --> 16:44.666 [SPEAKER_04]: See a day two, I just kept going and moved my ass and then came back to work. 16:44.706 --> 16:54.413 [SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm just trying to get myself ahead of a lot of orders Because Christmas is upon us, and we're you know loading up and Allison's buying all sorts of merch. 16:54.453 --> 16:59.197 [SPEAKER_04]: We got merch back lots of merch in and Yeah, it's great. 16:59.597 --> 17:03.660 [SPEAKER_02]: So I heard it was quite chilly did it get super went at all 17:04.060 --> 17:04.581 [SPEAKER_04]: It did. 17:04.601 --> 17:06.723 [SPEAKER_04]: It always seems to rain and makers camp. 17:06.763 --> 17:10.846 [SPEAKER_04]: So it made it rained Sunday afternoon, but Saturday was beautiful. 17:11.667 --> 17:14.770 [SPEAKER_04]: And I, like I said, I really try to keep myself busy. 17:14.830 --> 17:21.997 [SPEAKER_04]: So I had brought some steel and I forged out a John Cliff and I forged out this long chopper. 17:22.057 --> 17:28.723 [SPEAKER_04]: I got a finish and then I finished, I made a bowie knife that was fun and a whole tank bowie knife. 17:28.743 --> 17:29.243 [SPEAKER_04]: That was fun. 17:30.164 --> 17:31.424 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the best part for me. 17:31.465 --> 17:33.725 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like the forges are there, the animals there. 17:34.225 --> 17:35.566 [SPEAKER_04]: And I got to be my station. 17:35.606 --> 17:36.906 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to have some fun. 17:36.926 --> 17:38.527 [SPEAKER_04]: So that's really good. 17:38.747 --> 17:39.407 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take you. 17:40.028 --> 17:40.708 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take you something. 17:41.648 --> 17:44.609 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, listen, you talk about working with John and Cliff. 17:46.450 --> 17:48.991 [SPEAKER_02]: It may be think of my night actually last night. 17:49.351 --> 17:52.132 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a friend who used to own a restaurant. 17:52.912 --> 18:14.501 [SPEAKER_02]: the restaurant unfortunately had to close but they're getting ready for pop-up and I went over they're working out of another restaurant's kitchen as a commissary and it was actually a restaurant I used to work in so I knew where everything was and I knew how all the machinery worked everything and it was interesting though because I hadn't been in there in like 15 years 18:15.802 --> 18:34.099 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was there just like I thought I was just going to hang out with my friend and then they needed help with like cutting onions and all this stuff and making like they were making carnitas and so they're doing all this prep work and I just got a board out the fucking knives who are horrendous but I got a couple tuned up so they were usable. 18:35.000 --> 18:37.523 [SPEAKER_02]: and was chopping away and we had a great time. 18:37.563 --> 18:40.387 [SPEAKER_02]: I was there for until like 12 30 this morning. 18:41.328 --> 18:42.289 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll help them out. 18:42.449 --> 18:43.310 [SPEAKER_04]: But it was nice of you. 18:43.691 --> 18:44.251 [SPEAKER_02]: It was fun. 18:44.451 --> 18:53.542 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I think about stuff like that or going up and working with Bob and like how if I'm doing it for myself for some reason it often feels just like 18:54.323 --> 19:19.969 [SPEAKER_02]: like I'm pulling fucking teeth but when I'm doing it to help somebody else or whatever it's like a play it's like it feels like play yeah and I wonder if there's a way to like reframe stuff so just like every time you feel like you have to go do some shit just rethink about it and reframe it is playing just like you get to go do this thing you get to go do that thing and uh i'm glad that you had a shot maker camp because i would love to have been there 19:20.129 --> 19:28.518 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I tell you what, I have to like, I mean, I try to reframe everything too, like, even today for the podcast. 19:28.619 --> 19:34.085 [SPEAKER_04]: Patrick wasn't in today and I had to get a lot of stuff done and I really wanted to. 19:34.245 --> 19:37.629 [SPEAKER_04]: I felt like I feel better about myself if I hit some deadlines. 19:38.169 --> 20:03.548 [SPEAKER_04]: So if you write, you know, 20 minutes before we started getting ready to record, I finished putting together four dives, just get, you know, grind, handstand, glue up, and just, I mean, that to me, for me, what works is like having like a goal in the morning and then once I see it through, I don't even have time to take a leak, and at a time to eat lunch, I just need to, I knew that I would feel better by myself I got done. 20:04.168 --> 20:18.142 [SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean, the other thing is about drinking, like everyone's getting, you know, in my mind, I'm thinking to myself, I don't drink a whole lot, and I have a couple drinks in life on the weekend, but I don't go crazy because I got, I know that I have to feel better the next day. 20:18.162 --> 20:18.742 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 20:18.782 --> 20:22.867 [SPEAKER_04]: But it's interesting how we kind of like, how we think about, especially as we're getting older. 20:23.407 --> 20:31.612 [SPEAKER_04]: how we think about the long term in regards to the decisions what you were saying in regards to how do you reframe the thought process. 20:31.712 --> 20:33.453 [SPEAKER_04]: I got to reframe all sorts of shit. 20:33.473 --> 20:39.716 [SPEAKER_04]: I know that if I have even two beers, I'm gonna not feel as good in the morning as I would. 20:40.036 --> 20:41.297 [SPEAKER_04]: And just decide not to. 20:42.657 --> 20:50.122 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, it takes me three or four days now if I have more than two, three beers the next two or three days I'm feeling it. 20:50.322 --> 20:52.803 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it happens as soon as you hit 40, I think it just happens overnight. 20:52.823 --> 20:53.744 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. 20:53.864 --> 20:58.127 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, too We're having we have I mean sobriety is one of those things that's like 20:59.087 --> 21:01.708 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously, I'm not going to get woo here. 21:02.088 --> 21:05.428 [SPEAKER_04]: But I was talking to my wife because we have a friend who's kind of going through it a little bit. 21:05.548 --> 21:09.589 [SPEAKER_04]: And I was saying to her, I was too afraid. 21:10.269 --> 21:14.550 [SPEAKER_04]: Because I have, you know, there's a lot of alcohol and drug addiction in my family. 21:14.970 --> 21:25.532 [SPEAKER_04]: But there's also, like, I'm so devoted to proving my, I'm living in the shadow of my father and trying to prove that I can do it, that I kind of steered clear and focused 21:29.133 --> 21:37.856 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want this this impediment in my life yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like it's a total impediment You know like having addiction and stuff again. 21:37.876 --> 21:47.939 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm obviously I don't know enough about addiction They got but at the same time like I just I got to get I get any work and I get to move them Time the sand is running out of the hour glass 21:48.724 --> 21:50.986 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, or hate for that, that. 21:51.046 --> 21:51.247 [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. 21:52.328 --> 21:52.628 [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. 21:53.269 --> 21:54.350 [SPEAKER_05]: Time is ticking away. 21:54.410 --> 21:56.212 [SPEAKER_05]: I've got a big five-o come in soon. 21:56.492 --> 21:59.595 [SPEAKER_05]: That's, uh, far out of the valley. 21:59.855 --> 22:00.736 [SPEAKER_05]: Scary time. 22:00.796 --> 22:01.077 [SPEAKER_05]: What's that? 22:01.097 --> 22:02.518 [SPEAKER_05]: What are you doing for your birthday? 22:02.658 --> 22:03.259 [SPEAKER_05]: January. 22:03.339 --> 22:04.120 [SPEAKER_05]: January. 22:04.240 --> 22:04.620 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 22:04.780 --> 22:05.281 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god. 22:05.581 --> 22:06.982 [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, you're really 49? 22:11.195 --> 22:12.675 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're full of shit, frankly. 22:12.755 --> 22:13.576 [SPEAKER_04]: I think you're full of shit. 22:13.596 --> 22:15.036 [SPEAKER_04]: I think you're shaving a couple of years off. 22:15.256 --> 22:16.656 [SPEAKER_04]: Do you reckon? 22:17.176 --> 22:19.097 [SPEAKER_04]: I think you are shaving a few years off. 22:19.157 --> 22:20.797 [SPEAKER_05]: You're mind me saying respectfully. 22:21.617 --> 22:22.337 [SPEAKER_05]: The cheek. 22:22.578 --> 22:23.218 [SPEAKER_05]: Respectfully. 22:23.258 --> 22:24.078 [SPEAKER_05]: The cheek of it all. 22:24.718 --> 22:25.358 [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's happening. 22:25.378 --> 22:28.859 [SPEAKER_05]: It's happening in January and hitting 40. 22:29.479 --> 22:31.579 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't mind hitting 50. 22:32.240 --> 22:35.720 [SPEAKER_05]: It feels my god that the life's over, you know? 22:40.578 --> 23:05.650 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you 23:07.480 --> 23:12.481 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's, I just spilled a cup of tea over me then. 23:14.722 --> 23:15.722 [SPEAKER_05]: That's how much I party. 23:15.742 --> 23:17.803 [SPEAKER_05]: I just spilled tea over me. 23:18.923 --> 23:21.544 [SPEAKER_05]: No, it was, it's, it's, it's almost 40th as well the same year. 23:21.584 --> 23:27.186 [SPEAKER_05]: So I think we're going to do a few things throughout the, you look, couple of holidays and you know, have a whole year of sort of celebrating kind of things. 23:27.226 --> 23:30.426 [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, and nothing major, but lots of little things. 23:30.707 --> 23:31.067 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see. 23:31.307 --> 23:31.627 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see. 23:32.707 --> 23:33.327 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah. 23:34.568 --> 23:35.368 [SPEAKER_05]: Should we get on with the show? 23:35.608 --> 23:35.848 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 23:37.240 --> 23:41.276 [SPEAKER_05]: OK. 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24:39.810 --> 24:56.280 [SPEAKER_04]: So Jeff this is probably aimed at you really well, it's interesting because I ended up talking a just a For a while and you know, there's some types of those those residents that you put in a mold and then you put it in a pressure pot and then the pressure pot So it's to suck out all the bubbles 24:56.960 --> 24:58.181 [SPEAKER_04]: sometimes it's not the case. 24:58.941 --> 25:07.326 [SPEAKER_04]: I use the total both thick set, fat them thick set because it drives very slowly, and the bubbles just don't seem to happen. 25:07.366 --> 25:11.889 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it drives so slowly that it just the bubbles just kind of like, you know, go. 25:12.609 --> 25:21.174 [SPEAKER_04]: It's funny, because I ended up talking to him for a while because the problem that he was having was, he's doing all these handled materials, and he's embedding scorpions in the handles. 25:21.435 --> 25:21.635 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 25:22.195 --> 25:39.281 [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, it's really cool, but however, it's content city because people are really pissed that he's like smushing these, you know, or whatever, I don't know what the hell he's doing, but he's like killing these scorpions and embedding him into things and, you know, rights activists are all up in arms and, you know, whatever. 25:40.181 --> 25:47.124 [SPEAKER_04]: So he's telling me when he embeds them in the handle and it puts him in the pressure pot, I think it's, I think it's squirts out all the air bubbles 25:51.945 --> 25:58.789 [SPEAKER_04]: So we ended up, I ended up having, and he started, I got him a, it's a touch with total boat and they were really super helpful to him. 25:59.709 --> 26:01.931 [SPEAKER_04]: And then he had really great success. 26:02.071 --> 26:06.073 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that, I mean, the hardest part about the Fathom, it's not overnight. 26:06.533 --> 26:11.416 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I did, um, for the demo I did with Ditt total boat, I made some hybrid hand on material. 26:11.856 --> 26:20.401 [SPEAKER_04]: And one of the things you knife makers you need to realize is the people making the hybrid hand on materials most likely aren't stabilizing the wood. 26:20.661 --> 26:25.003 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, so hybrid hand on material is part burl and usually live edge. 26:25.603 --> 26:28.965 [SPEAKER_04]: And then it's got some, you know, resin, colorful resin. 26:29.005 --> 26:33.548 [SPEAKER_04]: And then when you cut them into slabs, it's kind of kind of transition between the 26:34.168 --> 26:36.150 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, the natural wood in the poxy. 26:36.490 --> 26:41.134 [SPEAKER_04]: The problem is is the guys who are making these are not always. 26:41.154 --> 26:51.002 [SPEAKER_04]: You have to ask if they're stabilizing the wood because I bought him, I would have a material that I know they didn't stabilize the wood because after while the wood grows and the material doesn't. 26:51.282 --> 26:53.824 [SPEAKER_02]: What would be the order of operations for somebody to try to do? 26:53.904 --> 27:02.671 [SPEAKER_02]: Would you cast the resin in and then stabilize the wood after or try to stabilize the wood first and then use the casting. 27:02.987 --> 27:22.015 [SPEAKER_04]: great question because this is what I do is I get the wood and then I try to mill it down to the size of the molds because I'm looking for some type of loaf like a different size small ones right and then I'm going to dry out the burles and then I'm going to stabilize the burles and then I really spend time on that. 27:22.855 --> 27:44.658 [SPEAKER_04]: uh... it probably takes two weeks the way i stabilize it really well just because i mean it's it's it's just this for setting the more the more the more liquid you get out of it the better you off you are you know the more it sucks up and you so you know i'm not going to get a note because of the the stabilizing you know police have given me a firm you know talking to 27:45.058 --> 27:49.442 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really listen any of them, but the people who are making hybrid helmets here are our stabilizers. 27:49.462 --> 28:09.778 [SPEAKER_04]: So, I stab, I mill the wood out, dry the wood out, and then I stabilize the wood, and then I really spin a long time with that, and then I put it in the back into the, it's fits, now that I milled it to, it fits in the mold, then I hold it down, usually like a little, because otherwise it'll float away, and then I pour in the fathom thick set. 28:10.438 --> 28:20.277 [SPEAKER_04]: And then it says seven days, but you should, if you can, if you can let a cure for a month, you're better off and a lot of it's because it, it cure so slowly. 28:21.813 --> 28:36.118 [SPEAKER_04]: that it I've used it after a week and then you can kind of scratch with your finger but the longer it goes like I've made a set of scales and I could feel that it was a little bit soft and then I talked to total people and said it'll keep curing on the knife. 28:36.718 --> 28:47.061 [SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time if you just give yourself two weeks for the stabilizing and then maybe like you know a month for the for the resin probably all yeah you know what let's just bring it down a month. 28:47.421 --> 28:48.502 [SPEAKER_04]: I gave myself a month. 28:49.062 --> 29:11.812 [SPEAKER_04]: to make you know five weeks to make a loaf of it and then that's what I used for the total boat demo and it worked great like I said a lot of these handle material guys I don't think they're all stabilizing their wood because I've got a lot of stuff from blade show and the wood is for sure not stabilized it's like not even a question 29:12.372 --> 29:15.393 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's interesting and I'd be cute. 29:15.593 --> 29:22.656 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never heard anybody talk about the the material continuing to cure after it's been put to use. 29:23.477 --> 29:31.460 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there a concern of a dimensional like I should like I guess the areas that are just solid resin of those shrinking? 29:32.521 --> 29:35.302 [SPEAKER_02]: Well that affecting the the I guess the 29:36.148 --> 29:40.049 [SPEAKER_02]: the scale's ability to not like warp after a question handle. 29:40.510 --> 29:41.150 [SPEAKER_04]: Great question. 29:41.210 --> 29:43.271 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I can only speak to the fathom. 29:43.511 --> 29:47.372 [SPEAKER_04]: The fathom, it like you can, you feel it with your finger. 29:48.133 --> 29:51.694 [SPEAKER_04]: And I've made, I just, I'm just, you feel it with your finger. 29:51.714 --> 29:52.514 [SPEAKER_04]: You just finger tip. 29:52.734 --> 29:53.675 [SPEAKER_04]: Like your finger, no, no. 29:53.715 --> 29:54.815 [SPEAKER_02]: And scratches, squish it. 29:55.195 --> 30:04.319 [SPEAKER_04]: Like you can, no, I mean, after a week, like I've done it after a week and then I put the clamps on and then the clamps will leave an impression. 30:05.919 --> 30:10.582 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that you know a slight impression, like if you were like really clamped down on a piece of wood. 30:10.642 --> 30:10.842 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 30:11.502 --> 30:13.643 [SPEAKER_04]: So like that says to me that it's not fully cured. 30:13.663 --> 30:14.304 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 30:14.564 --> 30:20.687 [SPEAKER_04]: And then the ones I did, the ones I did for its total boat, there was no impression whatsoever. 30:21.087 --> 30:24.389 [SPEAKER_04]: But you know with like all that material you can feel with your fingernail, you know? 30:24.569 --> 30:31.052 [SPEAKER_04]: Like you can feel if it feels slightly, I'm gonna say soft, I'm just saying like it's scratchable with your fingernail. 30:31.672 --> 30:35.535 [SPEAKER_04]: But like once it's cured, it's pretty, you know, it's pretty good. 30:35.555 --> 30:48.205 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, especially for a culinary knife, you're not too worried about, I mean, I wouldn't use it for like a chopper, but or something that's like heavy duty, but I think that I think that, I'm not 100% sure anything about the pressure pot stuff. 30:48.525 --> 30:51.007 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know anything about it, I'm not interested at all. 30:51.347 --> 30:54.910 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not even super interested in making this handle hybrid material. 30:54.930 --> 30:59.153 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a fun project when I work a lot with total button that they've been amazing to me. 30:59.833 --> 31:12.683 [SPEAKER_04]: And I have done the H&L hybrid material, but I like the total boat and I've had good success with it right immediately, as long as you give yourself time. 31:13.063 --> 31:14.645 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's the biggest problem. 31:16.846 --> 31:20.509 [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of stuff that needs just time and stuff like that. 31:21.250 --> 31:24.132 [SPEAKER_04]: It does better if you can just not need it tomorrow. 31:24.552 --> 31:26.474 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? 31:26.494 --> 31:26.894 [SPEAKER_04]: Hi, you guys. 31:26.914 --> 31:27.434 [SPEAKER_04]: Stay brought up. 31:28.546 --> 31:28.846 [SPEAKER_05]: Pardon me? 31:30.147 --> 31:33.548 [SPEAKER_05]: I'd say with regards to the pressure part, I think the idea, as you say, is to get any bubbles out. 31:34.048 --> 31:46.052 [SPEAKER_05]: But why don't whenever I've poured resins, I just put the mold on a drill press, work table, turn the drill press on, and just those vibrations will vibrate bubbles out as well. 31:46.813 --> 31:51.374 [SPEAKER_05]: Then whether it's good as, you know, it's usually a pressure bottle, whatever, but it definitely does do that. 31:51.434 --> 31:53.995 [SPEAKER_05]: It definitely shakes out any bubbles. 31:54.035 --> 31:55.176 [SPEAKER_05]: Just put in it on any sort of, 31:55.916 --> 32:01.418 [SPEAKER_05]: to any, you know, rest, like a drill press or a grind to whatever it is. 32:01.518 --> 32:03.399 [SPEAKER_05]: And it'll shake those things out for you as well. 32:03.579 --> 32:08.802 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I do sometimes is actually I'll take my palm sander and take all the sandpaper off. 32:09.422 --> 32:12.543 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I'll just run it for a few minutes around the mold. 32:12.883 --> 32:14.064 [SPEAKER_04]: Like outside of it. 32:14.144 --> 32:17.185 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if it's on a piece of wood, I'll just run it. 32:17.245 --> 32:22.027 [SPEAKER_04]: I used your trick, but my drill presses don't have any vibration, my dog. 32:22.168 --> 32:22.948 [SPEAKER_04]: I got my eye on you. 32:23.588 --> 32:27.150 [SPEAKER_05]: I got the antivide, I got the antivide from the antivide. 32:27.370 --> 32:28.010 [SPEAKER_04]: Antivide. 32:28.550 --> 32:34.733 [SPEAKER_04]: So I was using the Palm Standard, no Santa paper, but it also depends on the temperature. 32:34.753 --> 32:38.795 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like epoxy dries differently in the cold and it doesn't in the heat. 32:39.195 --> 32:40.016 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 32:40.336 --> 32:48.460 [SPEAKER_04]: So, but the answer, and we took care of J. Ma, J. Ma's our guy, and he's having, he's having a good success that's all about. 32:49.160 --> 33:16.557 [SPEAKER_04]: those uh his content with his scorpions are fucking hilarious yeah they're very good yeah he's he's like people are so mad and uh so he's now like making making this scorpion his friend yeah it's his friend and that scorpion follows him around the shop and you know he'll you know it's it's they're getting to the point where the scorpion is the scorpion in a whole hands and we go for a walk it's very fun it's very funny it does a good job 33:17.297 --> 33:32.972 [SPEAKER_02]: In regards to vibrating stuff to shake out the bubbles, I remember seeing, I think it was Travis Wirt's actually, he was making ribbon burners and he's using usually you have a metal form or something like that or even if it's a wood form. 33:33.052 --> 33:39.378 [SPEAKER_02]: But what he did is he chucked a hex headed bolt into his drill press or into a hand drill. 33:39.398 --> 33:39.918 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember. 33:40.739 --> 33:52.167 [SPEAKER_02]: and he ran the head of the hex of the bolt against the outer edge because it's a hex head it's just like rattleing against the outer edge of the thing so that might be another 33:53.147 --> 33:59.912 [SPEAKER_02]: approach, but whatever that hex head is coming in to contact with, especially if it's soft material, it's going to chew it up. 33:59.952 --> 34:02.074 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like the one hole in it, but it'll chew it up. 34:02.314 --> 34:15.845 [SPEAKER_04]: When you're making the handle hybrid material, you also need to kind of make sure that your wood doesn't flow it away, because you tap it into place with like, no, I've done I've done a lot of different things with my favorite way now, as I basically 34:16.445 --> 34:34.731 [SPEAKER_04]: My mole it's a like a latex mole and it's got a little wooden frame around it and then I'll put it on a board and then I'll make sure I have if there's usually I'll pick I'll take a stick and I'll have it or like a piece of wood and I'll have it go across the top and then I'll use a clamp to just hold the wood down. 34:35.371 --> 34:36.571 [SPEAKER_04]: so it doesn't, it's not moving. 34:36.811 --> 34:49.014 [SPEAKER_04]: So when, and then by the, if it's over the week by the time the weekends over, it's usually soft enough that I can remove it, but I'll clamp the wood down into the, into the mold just so it doesn't move. 34:49.034 --> 34:52.615 [SPEAKER_04]: Because if it's your moves, you got, you know, you, you just don't want it. 34:53.195 --> 35:00.337 [SPEAKER_02]: You want it to be flat, you know, well, it's, well, even if you have it all clamped up, I could imagine if it's on a table or a bench of some sort of, 35:04.318 --> 35:09.760 [SPEAKER_02]: adding those vibrations with a hex-headed bolt chucked into a drill, and it's something like that. 35:09.980 --> 35:17.583 [SPEAKER_04]: In the beginning, yeah, because I mean, the bubbles that you're looking for in the beginning are around the live edge. 35:17.883 --> 35:22.125 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, because if there's, so I have the live edge of it set a slant. 35:22.205 --> 35:27.887 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll make sure that it's like an iceberg where the the widest part is at the bottom, and then it's kind of feeding up. 35:28.267 --> 35:49.445 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I'll even take a paintbrush and make sure because you don't want to make sure the bubbles get, you know, trapped in like the crags of your burl, right, and then when I talk to Kristen Brown of fellow boat who's absolutely fabulous, she said that the best part is is it's so slow acting the bubble, the slow acting that the bubbles really don't get trapped. 35:49.485 --> 35:50.146 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's really. 35:50.666 --> 35:57.873 [SPEAKER_04]: It may be just a couple of tiny ones, but you don't really even need the, you don't even really need the. 35:57.933 --> 36:02.838 [SPEAKER_04]: And there's a system in place where they have in the, what they're, you're supposed to mix it for like two minutes for ten minutes. 36:03.338 --> 36:06.601 [SPEAKER_04]: And then you're supposed to let it sit before you pour it for another ten minutes. 36:06.842 --> 36:08.964 [SPEAKER_04]: And then that releases a lot of bubbles, but. 36:09.984 --> 36:11.364 [SPEAKER_05]: I think the heat helps as well. 36:11.404 --> 36:18.026 [SPEAKER_05]: So you get, oh see, you get a chemical reaction specials as a two-part, and that the heat will help bring the bubbles, because you see some people using like heat guns. 36:18.266 --> 36:20.547 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, it's it to get them out as well. 36:21.607 --> 36:24.007 [SPEAKER_05]: But whilst we're talking about this, we're going to need to depth, I suppose. 36:24.047 --> 36:27.848 [SPEAKER_05]: I've done stuff in the past where I've had stuff floating in clear resin. 36:29.489 --> 36:31.429 [SPEAKER_05]: So you're just talking to how would you hold the wood down. 36:32.509 --> 36:36.150 [SPEAKER_05]: If you want something floating, I've done feathers floating in a clear resin. 36:36.270 --> 36:38.491 [SPEAKER_05]: So you pour a certain 36:40.191 --> 36:55.779 [SPEAKER_05]: way to let's it's not fully cured just a day or so then you can put up in this case I put a feather on then poured more on top and you don't see a seam wow they sort of cure into each other so you can have something floating within the within the resin seam. 36:56.259 --> 36:57.800 [SPEAKER_04]: I always wondered how that happens. 36:57.860 --> 36:59.761 [SPEAKER_04]: I know that James Mild's got like a little bit. 36:59.781 --> 37:00.682 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just a double paw. 37:00.782 --> 37:00.982 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 37:01.162 --> 37:07.025 [SPEAKER_04]: He's got like a little he's got like a see-through stick that just kind of just disappears in the pore. 37:07.888 --> 37:08.988 [SPEAKER_05]: But uh, right, okay. 37:09.048 --> 37:11.069 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, another thing that I do is I don't do clear. 37:11.089 --> 37:18.370 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm, I got die and then I got, I got die and I got sprinkles or whatever dust glitter. 37:18.390 --> 37:20.431 [SPEAKER_04]: Like a glitter, I got a really fine glitter. 37:20.971 --> 37:24.472 [SPEAKER_04]: And that makes it kind of, it gives it a little bit more chitoyance. 37:25.092 --> 37:28.373 [SPEAKER_04]: And then it also, I hate, I mean, this is my opinion. 37:28.853 --> 37:32.994 [SPEAKER_04]: When you see handle hybrid material, especially if it's like, scales. 37:33.554 --> 37:58.696 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to see the Corby shank, like I don't want to see any of that, and then the other thing is, I hate that, so I'm also using, so if I die at, and then I throw some, you know, sparkles in there, I usually, it really, you avoid seeing any of that, but I'm always, this is one thing I didn't talk about in the demo is I'm always putting a liner on, especially with scales, because you just want, I want three points of contact. 37:59.540 --> 38:00.420 [SPEAKER_04]: three points of contact. 38:00.460 --> 38:07.204 [SPEAKER_04]: If you call it a contact with the handle hybrid material, because, you know, it's just a safer situation. 38:07.384 --> 38:11.766 [SPEAKER_04]: Because it isn't, you know, we're not talking about carbon fiber or G10. 38:12.107 --> 38:13.587 [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about port epoxy. 38:14.268 --> 38:19.971 [SPEAKER_04]: And you want to make sure that you have enough structure behind it, that it's not kind of like flake off or something. 38:19.991 --> 38:20.131 [SPEAKER_04]: Sure. 38:20.911 --> 38:21.091 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. 38:22.192 --> 38:22.612 [SPEAKER_04]: Look at that. 38:22.992 --> 38:23.753 [SPEAKER_04]: The resin tool. 38:23.813 --> 38:24.433 [SPEAKER_04]: Look at how it goes. 38:24.453 --> 38:25.013 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 38:25.073 --> 38:25.293 [SPEAKER_04]: Awesome. 38:29.381 --> 38:31.802 [SPEAKER_05]: We have some audio to do the next audio one. 38:31.822 --> 38:37.844 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, do it so you guys if you are want to send in your messages. 38:37.904 --> 38:39.125 [SPEAKER_04]: We have Darwin awards. 38:39.505 --> 38:41.786 [SPEAKER_04]: You have feedback. 38:41.866 --> 38:45.687 [SPEAKER_04]: We have a dilemma from our man Ben from EDC Gearhouse. 38:45.707 --> 38:46.808 [SPEAKER_04]: This might be a two-parter. 38:47.488 --> 38:52.970 [SPEAKER_04]: And he went to Nightstar podcast Instagram and he DMed us and then he did a voice recording. 38:53.010 --> 38:54.631 [SPEAKER_04]: So here's the first part. 38:55.935 --> 38:58.017 [SPEAKER_01]: guys, I got a little bit of a dilemma. 38:58.577 --> 39:06.463 [SPEAKER_01]: So we recently restructured our company with our accountant and all that stuff to see where we're bleeding, where we can improve etc. 39:07.084 --> 39:17.792 [SPEAKER_01]: And we kind of came to the conclusion that what was once carrying our company, which is our meal in the services, anodizing, die job, sharpening etc. 39:19.929 --> 39:27.038 [SPEAKER_01]: is actually slowing us down, we're spending too much time on smaller orders and our bigger wholesale bread and butter. 39:27.658 --> 39:36.849 [SPEAKER_01]: The services have been falling by the wayside and you know the deadline to add a little push because of the smaller orders. 39:36.929 --> 39:39.051 [SPEAKER_01]: And so recently we uh... 39:40.736 --> 39:54.948 [SPEAKER_01]: suspended mailing services for the month of October and we're kind of realizing that this might be better for the long run and I'm a little torn because mailing services were our lifeblood for the longest time. 39:55.528 --> 39:59.612 [SPEAKER_01]: We have incredible relationships with our mail and customers. 40:00.132 --> 40:03.375 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a little sad that we came to this conclusion. 40:03.395 --> 40:05.197 [SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of wanted to tell you guys, 40:07.215 --> 40:10.818 [SPEAKER_04]: So, he easy gear house, by the way, P.S. 40:10.858 --> 40:14.562 [SPEAKER_04]: If you're knife-maker and you're looking for knives, easy gear house fabulous, way of the knife. 40:14.682 --> 40:18.385 [SPEAKER_04]: I get all my, he has a whole section of pre-owned knives. 40:18.946 --> 40:24.651 [SPEAKER_04]: I buy a pile of pre-owned knives from him, because the price is really good and they're really good. 40:24.731 --> 40:27.293 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like, especially for R&D or kicking something around. 40:27.974 --> 40:39.383 [SPEAKER_04]: So he had a process where you could send something in and it was when they re-structured, they realized that this service was slowing them down. 40:40.924 --> 40:45.508 [SPEAKER_04]: Should I play part two or just we talk about what do you talk about for the beginning? 40:47.569 --> 40:50.612 [SPEAKER_05]: And play part two, yeah, we can have a deep discussion then, come on, yeah. 40:51.966 --> 40:54.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Also have one for Craig's sir. 40:55.028 --> 40:55.588 [SPEAKER_01]: I never mind. 40:55.648 --> 41:04.134 [SPEAKER_04]: This is going to be quite this is a second question So we'll let's just see what the first question in the second one is for you So what would you do guys? 41:04.594 --> 41:12.078 [SPEAKER_04]: I know how this feels you something your brand butter This is what you're known for you move on should you keep it should you cut it loose? 41:13.119 --> 41:13.559 [SPEAKER_04]: What do you think? 41:15.801 --> 41:16.661 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know. 41:16.741 --> 41:17.182 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like 41:19.109 --> 41:44.683 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you don't you can't I got it's hard to I just I guess transition like cut and dry I'm sure it's gonna make sense for them to transition to doing more of whatever makes more sense for their business or to make their business more lucrative But yeah maintaining those relationships is obviously gonna be really important, but I don't know it's tricky because like you don't want to 41:45.972 --> 41:54.685 [SPEAKER_02]: hurt those people's feelings probably more than anything if they're going to slow down or transition to doing more of whatever I can't remember what he said was going to be more lucrative. 41:54.905 --> 42:01.034 [SPEAKER_04]: So he had a service where you could do these little things where you could send in your knife and that give you the mod up your knife. 42:01.134 --> 42:01.895 [SPEAKER_04]: Little mods, yeah. 42:01.955 --> 42:04.658 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, little mods, and there were a tough very time consuming. 42:05.278 --> 42:07.620 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm just going to break it down with these little mods. 42:08.101 --> 42:12.445 [SPEAKER_04]: And it was time consuming, and it was too expensive for them to do. 42:13.025 --> 42:16.108 [SPEAKER_04]: But however they like to do it, I don't think anyone's going to feel bad about it. 42:16.188 --> 42:19.852 [SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, it's like he kind of thought that that was their bread and butter for all time. 42:20.940 --> 42:37.160 [SPEAKER_02]: And you just say, I wonder if it's possible that he could scale that in a way of just like finding somebody that is less expensive to the business to do that work while it's going to be is spending his time where his time is more valuable and that works more meaningful. 42:37.560 --> 42:38.180 [SPEAKER_04]: What do you think, Craig? 42:38.420 --> 42:38.640 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 42:39.961 --> 42:43.041 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's one of those things you've got to take sort of a motion out of it. 42:43.121 --> 42:47.902 [SPEAKER_05]: If you look in it, you know, growing a business and making a business profitable is possible. 42:48.963 --> 42:52.864 [SPEAKER_05]: You've got to look at cutting those things that aren't, you know, bringing in. 42:54.104 --> 42:57.065 [SPEAKER_05]: It's that whole thing of, you know, time and revenue that they bring in. 42:57.125 --> 43:05.127 [SPEAKER_05]: And if it's not, if you've got other things that are making you more profit in the same time, it makes far more sense to be doing that. 43:08.187 --> 43:22.576 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you could say the lost leaders, they might bring people to you, but you know, if you've got the analytics that you can probably see if those same customs are then spending money on other things, so whether it's worth doing it because it puts the hook in them if you like. 43:23.377 --> 43:29.881 [SPEAKER_05]: But if not, I think, yeah, you've got a sort of business head on and think well, maybe maybe scrap that part of the business. 43:30.261 --> 43:39.568 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we don't know too much about it, you know, but from what he said you've got more of the profitable ways of doing the business concentrate on them. 43:40.589 --> 43:43.892 [SPEAKER_04]: This is a great question because we've cut a few things loose. 43:44.312 --> 43:50.517 [SPEAKER_04]: Since we started with Faderdives, like our outdoor stuff from not doing hardly any of them, we're not putting them up on the website, we're focusing on culinary. 43:50.557 --> 43:55.221 [SPEAKER_04]: So our bread and butter were our bull oaks and all those outdoor knives and 43:55.761 --> 44:00.826 [SPEAKER_04]: We're just not doing them anymore and we're like conscious like yeah, like I've been I bring them up to make a camp. 44:00.846 --> 44:04.730 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll have them as you know, we have some still here from the past few years. 44:04.750 --> 44:10.516 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll put them up for sale, turn kind of Christmas time and stuff yet, but it's not something that we're planning on doing. 44:12.178 --> 44:16.702 [SPEAKER_04]: My suggestion in this regard is maybe it makes sense to hire someone just to do that stuff. 44:17.383 --> 44:33.598 [SPEAKER_04]: like if you had one guy and all their job was that part of the business because maybe it is good for you in regards to keep, I like what both you guys said in regards to maybe it's like the foot hole to having things made. 44:35.079 --> 44:40.564 [SPEAKER_04]: If they say it's got you got to cut a loose or figure out a way to keep it going and maybe that way is 44:41.225 --> 44:43.808 [SPEAKER_04]: to have one guy and it's his department. 44:43.828 --> 44:47.212 [SPEAKER_04]: We call out the lawnmower department, you know, like at that I was at a film. 44:47.612 --> 44:55.661 [SPEAKER_04]: I was at a metal shop and the lowest guy in the totem bowl took care of anybody coming when they got up, you know, I needed their lawnmower welded up. 44:55.681 --> 45:01.107 [SPEAKER_04]: We called it the lawnmower department and it was one dude who was low guy in the totem pole and that was his job. 45:01.627 --> 45:12.355 [SPEAKER_04]: It might be worth it if you have a guy who especially somebody's young and wants to learn and it can be an opportunity for there to be, you keep it on, you know, in stock, that opportunity. 45:12.815 --> 45:19.460 [SPEAKER_04]: But you got to build it in and just, yeah, well, like Craig says, just, you know, make sure that you're not doing it because if it's a loser, then don't do it. 45:20.385 --> 45:28.310 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm guessing it's the customer interaction that's really taking the time because if somebody's getting a little personalized or you know All right, modified to their specs. 45:28.570 --> 45:42.780 [SPEAKER_02]: There's probably lots of tune of throwing back with a customer sure and you know We all know that that's a massive suck, you know, even if you're just having your name like having the knife personalized like Dallying in the right set like the font in the size and the location on the blade and 45:43.280 --> 45:45.881 [SPEAKER_02]: how deep to edit and doing some samples. 45:46.602 --> 45:48.903 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there is a surprising amount of back and forth. 45:49.143 --> 45:49.923 [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I'm just trying to... 45:49.943 --> 45:52.084 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to bring the transcription to just make sure. 45:55.025 --> 46:02.609 [SPEAKER_04]: There are mail-in services, analyzing job, die job, sharpening, etc. 46:02.629 --> 46:03.849 [SPEAKER_04]: So little tiny things. 46:04.470 --> 46:07.571 [SPEAKER_04]: This could be, you know, getting a guy in. 46:07.591 --> 46:09.092 [SPEAKER_04]: You need even a part-time guy. 46:09.532 --> 46:21.303 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, you're your money guys and going to understand in regards to the idea of what you like, because it sounds to me like Ben doesn't want to cut it loose. 46:22.024 --> 46:24.486 [SPEAKER_04]: If you can figure out a way that that's a cut-a-lose, don't cut a loose. 46:25.086 --> 46:28.670 [SPEAKER_04]: But if it's just waste of a waste of energy and time and money, then cut a loose. 46:29.731 --> 46:35.376 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, yeah, I love, I love what you, and now he's got another question for our main man. 46:37.309 --> 46:44.115 [SPEAKER_04]: You can say old Craig them when they don't meet me, I didn't say that God damn I got started over again you sons of bitches 46:53.110 --> 46:55.312 [SPEAKER_01]: a bit about stupidious things we've ever done. 46:55.813 --> 47:02.219 [SPEAKER_01]: I when I first started modding refinishing knives in my apartment, I was marveling at my work like a fucking pretentious dickhead and I was on the toilet. 47:02.239 --> 47:02.980 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, looking this pocket. 47:03.060 --> 47:11.568 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, 47:12.167 --> 47:20.413 [SPEAKER_01]: such a good job and like just looking at it and then it slipped out of my hands and the gigantic, that's well in the gigantic. 47:20.993 --> 47:22.294 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like three and a quarter inch. 47:22.634 --> 47:24.695 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's like cheap enough. 47:24.775 --> 47:31.800 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the inside of my thigh, um, pretty close to the, to the bad artery right there. 47:32.561 --> 47:36.063 [SPEAKER_01]: And I have the narliest scar on my thigh because of stupidity. 47:36.663 --> 47:39.946 [SPEAKER_04]: So parents who are listening to this podcast that was not dead. 47:40.026 --> 47:43.188 [SPEAKER_04]: You see here I saw me talking about his three-inch penis. 47:43.388 --> 47:46.111 [SPEAKER_04]: He's a three-and-a-half. 47:46.691 --> 47:47.552 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, sorry. 47:47.792 --> 47:48.352 [SPEAKER_05]: See you now. 47:48.392 --> 47:49.313 [SPEAKER_05]: I've had a warm day. 47:49.353 --> 47:49.653 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 47:50.454 --> 47:50.954 [SPEAKER_05]: Jay. 47:51.034 --> 47:52.075 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow. 47:52.095 --> 47:53.036 [SPEAKER_04]: Daruna Awards, baby. 47:53.991 --> 47:59.696 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so sitting on the toilet, playing with a knife, and cut, oh Jesus Christ, that could have been far worse. 47:59.976 --> 48:00.637 [SPEAKER_05]: That could, yeah. 48:00.977 --> 48:02.278 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I am surprised. 48:02.298 --> 48:08.724 [SPEAKER_04]: I, I, I tapped my finger with a razor blade accidentally and I was shocked at how I've just went right in. 48:09.224 --> 48:12.247 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just, like, well, it went right in. 48:12.267 --> 48:13.788 [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't, I wasn't like playing around. 48:14.089 --> 48:14.549 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll funny. 48:14.569 --> 48:16.891 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm crazy story, speaking of Darwin Awards? 48:17.932 --> 48:38.544 [SPEAKER_04]: When I was in high school, our college, I was in school in Ohio, there was like a store called quality farm and fleet, and it was, first sculptors, we loved it because they had tools there that the rest of this arborist, this is in 1992, so there weren't a lot, there wasn't a home depot at this point, and we would go and, or maybe there was, but it wasn't around our school. 48:38.984 --> 48:45.528 [SPEAKER_04]: So a good quality farm and fleet, I was with one of the arbor majors, and they had tools that we just didn't see in other arbor stores. 48:46.208 --> 48:48.730 [SPEAKER_04]: And it was a farm fleet store. 48:48.890 --> 48:52.453 [SPEAKER_04]: So it was like for cattlemen and farmers, this would be good. 48:52.913 --> 48:58.397 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm just talking to my friend, who's our major, and we walk past this area where they have cattle prods. 48:59.098 --> 49:03.081 [SPEAKER_04]: So they had these sample cattle prods on display. 49:03.101 --> 49:06.423 [SPEAKER_04]: And we're talking, and I just grab it, and I'm going to waving it around. 49:06.463 --> 49:09.345 [SPEAKER_04]: And we're having conversation, and then I put it to my hand. 49:10.166 --> 49:11.307 [SPEAKER_04]: I pull the trigger. 49:12.448 --> 49:19.831 [SPEAKER_04]: I jumped so high, and I clutched my arm instead of my friend, we got to go get a home now. 49:20.312 --> 49:22.433 [SPEAKER_04]: I could move my arm for like two hours. 49:23.353 --> 49:28.015 [SPEAKER_04]: I had they had a live cattle prod on display. 49:28.035 --> 49:31.437 [SPEAKER_04]: No, and I'm thinking to myself, there's no way this fucker works. 49:32.057 --> 49:38.360 [SPEAKER_04]: And I were having a nice conversation and I had two like burn marks in my palm on my hand from this cattle prod. 49:39.180 --> 49:40.121 [SPEAKER_04]: A cattle prod of myself. 49:41.301 --> 49:41.521 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 49:41.541 --> 49:42.062 [SPEAKER_04]: A stupid little. 49:42.322 --> 49:42.542 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 49:43.262 --> 49:43.462 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 49:43.763 --> 49:45.884 [SPEAKER_05]: I've put up electric fence and we're used to keep pigs. 49:46.444 --> 49:47.165 [SPEAKER_05]: Really proud of it. 49:47.185 --> 49:48.665 [SPEAKER_05]: And I put it up and I call Amy out. 49:48.686 --> 49:49.306 [SPEAKER_05]: Look, it's all done. 49:49.326 --> 49:49.946 [SPEAKER_05]: It looks great. 49:50.867 --> 49:52.488 [SPEAKER_05]: I take a few steps back and my room. 49:52.508 --> 49:54.109 [SPEAKER_05]: I work full over it. 49:55.189 --> 49:56.210 [SPEAKER_05]: It shocks me on the way down. 49:56.390 --> 49:57.391 [SPEAKER_05]: But then I'm wrapped up in it. 49:57.411 --> 49:59.192 [SPEAKER_05]: And it says, oh my god. 49:59.432 --> 49:59.832 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the pulse. 49:59.852 --> 49:59.972 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 50:00.012 --> 50:00.372 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the pulse. 50:00.392 --> 50:00.813 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 50:01.493 --> 50:02.073 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the pulse. 50:02.113 --> 50:02.634 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 50:02.654 --> 50:03.034 [SPEAKER_05]: Terrible. 50:03.194 --> 50:03.534 [SPEAKER_05]: Terrible. 50:03.614 --> 50:04.715 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a little spasm in. 50:04.755 --> 50:07.357 [SPEAKER_04]: And Racco, do you have any, do you have any Darwin awards? 50:08.157 --> 50:08.899 [SPEAKER_04]: Darwin Awards? 50:08.919 --> 50:17.333 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I've been really played with electrical fences, and- No, we had this bit, the bit is to the listeners, and they're sending the door out where you hurt yourself, right? 50:17.373 --> 50:18.274 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do something stupid. 50:18.835 --> 50:21.360 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a couple of years ago, I dropped a knife on my foot, and- 50:23.206 --> 50:24.728 [SPEAKER_02]: while I was trying to like open it. 50:24.748 --> 50:26.710 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't on the toilet. 50:27.971 --> 50:34.679 [SPEAKER_02]: But I was opening it to like get some sticks ready to roast a marshmallows and I'm sitting around the campfire surrounded by children. 50:34.759 --> 50:38.103 [SPEAKER_02]: My kids birthday and I accidentally dropped the knife. 50:38.263 --> 50:44.309 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even notice that I actually stabbed my foot until I'm reaching down the grab it and blood is gushing out of my foot. 50:45.130 --> 50:45.951 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, cheese. 50:46.011 --> 50:49.334 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and those marshmallows knives you need to be careful. 50:49.434 --> 50:52.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had to make a slippery escape. 50:52.757 --> 50:58.522 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've ever had to try to walk on blood, but it's very slippery and flip flops too. 50:59.163 --> 51:00.324 [SPEAKER_02]: So oh, cheese. 51:00.624 --> 51:05.188 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm never no longer wearing flip flops at the campsite anymore. 51:05.789 --> 51:06.329 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man. 51:06.569 --> 51:08.111 [SPEAKER_04]: Good, good, good, good. 51:08.331 --> 51:10.553 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know what you got anything too crazy. 51:12.047 --> 51:16.908 [SPEAKER_05]: What you need is one of those little nice, like one of those little loppinels, which brings us nicely to one of our sponsors. 51:17.228 --> 51:23.249 [SPEAKER_05]: Darmasteeer, I've noticed up and out of work with Darmasteeer on a limited edition little up and out, which looks really, really cool. 51:23.269 --> 51:25.390 [SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm going to try and get it when for my collection. 51:25.510 --> 51:28.871 [SPEAKER_05]: But, yeah, Darmasteeer, we've got the DCI coming up in November. 51:28.891 --> 51:30.151 [SPEAKER_05]: I believe it's November 14th. 51:30.871 --> 51:33.992 [SPEAKER_05]: So, if you don't know what that is, it's the Darmasteeer chef invitational. 51:34.772 --> 51:39.838 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, we've had to build a long cone along where people who chose a domicile steel and then they're making these things. 51:39.858 --> 51:41.119 [SPEAKER_05]: We have to look in a ward ceremony. 51:41.380 --> 51:42.501 [SPEAKER_05]: It's always a really good evening. 51:42.581 --> 51:45.584 [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, but it's an evening for me because at the night time for me. 51:45.664 --> 51:47.326 [SPEAKER_05]: But, um, it's all online. 51:47.446 --> 51:49.148 [SPEAKER_05]: But good to go to domicile.se. 51:50.930 --> 51:55.252 [SPEAKER_05]: and we've got tab on the website for DCI, and you can register for your free tickets. 51:55.332 --> 52:02.756 [SPEAKER_05]: It's all online, everybody, we have lots of fun, we speak a lot of different makers, we see lots of different work, it's always a fun night. 52:02.776 --> 52:08.379 [SPEAKER_05]: So go take a look, and obviously if you've never used Domestee before, go take a look at the beautiful stills that they have. 52:08.799 --> 52:11.961 [SPEAKER_05]: Really easy to use, Domestee.se. 52:12.501 --> 52:17.484 [SPEAKER_04]: And this weekend is the, I think this week is the Austrian knife show. 52:18.424 --> 52:19.526 [SPEAKER_04]: And all right, okay. 52:19.546 --> 52:23.412 [SPEAKER_04]: Damage steel, all the damage steel guys are going to be over there with our friends. 52:23.492 --> 52:31.223 [SPEAKER_04]: And I know Tolmer made a beautiful knife out of, actually, Tolmer made a beautiful knife. 52:31.343 --> 52:32.705 [SPEAKER_04]: We have to thank our friend, Carly. 52:33.266 --> 52:48.740 [SPEAKER_04]: Carly and I had a bet on whether how food would go farther than next to the or the raptors we bet steel and she paid me in the steel and it went to Damn it went to I've sent it to toner and toner used to burn to the knife. 52:48.780 --> 52:50.481 [SPEAKER_04]: So there you go. 52:50.501 --> 52:53.864 [SPEAKER_04]: So thank you Carly and with Carly and thank you in your next 52:56.560 --> 53:00.683 [SPEAKER_04]: We have great listener feedback, by the way, Craig, if you want to go. 53:00.923 --> 53:01.563 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it by that. 53:01.583 --> 53:02.084 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, let's do it. 53:02.124 --> 53:02.524 [SPEAKER_05]: Mix it up on it. 53:02.544 --> 53:02.964 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, guys. 53:02.984 --> 53:04.665 [SPEAKER_04]: You want to spend send us a message. 53:04.685 --> 53:05.646 [SPEAKER_04]: She can send us tonight. 53:05.666 --> 53:06.266 [SPEAKER_04]: Talk podcast. 53:06.286 --> 53:08.968 [SPEAKER_04]: And Instagram, like our man, Fox for Blades has. 53:08.988 --> 53:10.109 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, KTP. 53:10.609 --> 53:13.271 [SPEAKER_04]: When you guys talked about the struggles Morocco is dealing with. 53:13.331 --> 53:15.932 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought of a quote from the great philosopher of our time. 53:16.012 --> 53:16.873 [SPEAKER_04]: Joey Diaz. 53:17.353 --> 53:17.794 [SPEAKER_04]: He says, 53:18.554 --> 53:29.658 [SPEAKER_04]: If I'm going to walk on the ice, I'm at a well-dance bitch, no matter how hard things get, you can always carry yourself with some swagger and style, the whole life community is behind Marreco. 53:29.698 --> 53:30.819 [SPEAKER_04]: We all appreciate you. 53:31.739 --> 53:32.920 [SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate that. 53:34.520 --> 53:38.082 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what goes back to talking about reframing things. 53:38.957 --> 53:48.365 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it can be hard and difficult thing that you're going through, but you can still choose to find some sort of light or happiness. 53:48.445 --> 53:49.186 [SPEAKER_02]: So whatever. 53:49.546 --> 53:50.047 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 53:50.447 --> 53:50.947 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah. 53:50.987 --> 53:51.848 [SPEAKER_04]: My sister died. 53:51.928 --> 53:53.269 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want to be sad. 53:53.289 --> 53:54.871 [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to reframe. 53:54.911 --> 53:56.932 [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to reframe it and choose to be grateful. 53:57.873 --> 53:58.794 [SPEAKER_04]: And that really helped me. 53:59.214 --> 54:00.055 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah. 54:00.536 --> 54:00.996 [SPEAKER_01]: There you go. 54:01.316 --> 54:01.997 [SPEAKER_01]: Dancing on the... 54:02.597 --> 54:04.058 [SPEAKER_01]: On the ice like a bitch. 54:04.158 --> 54:05.198 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I was doing. 54:05.238 --> 54:07.358 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna walk on the ice. 54:08.439 --> 54:11.880 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I choose to like get on the ice bitch. 54:11.900 --> 54:12.580 [SPEAKER_04]: Something like that. 54:12.600 --> 54:13.700 [SPEAKER_04]: I fucked it all up. 54:14.260 --> 54:17.541 [SPEAKER_04]: Our man ADK knife works saw him this past weekend. 54:17.581 --> 54:19.522 [SPEAKER_04]: He says this past weekend was maker camp. 54:19.942 --> 54:25.063 [SPEAKER_04]: And myself and my apprentice were there early Saturday so we could make the rounds and talk to everyone before they got busy. 54:25.443 --> 54:30.204 [SPEAKER_04]: And of course we went to see Jeff and we had a great talk and went to his demo of putting knife scales. 54:30.605 --> 54:34.585 [SPEAKER_04]: He definitely showed the best way to put him on from liners to lay out to epoxying. 54:35.106 --> 54:39.907 [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely taught me a thing or two and I plan on applying to the applying it today when I handle. 54:40.307 --> 54:42.227 [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks again Jeff and to the other two. 54:42.767 --> 54:44.708 [SPEAKER_04]: I thank you for what you two do as well. 54:44.728 --> 54:45.468 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll have a great day. 54:50.650 --> 55:00.237 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we gave some marital advice to our man Leonardo Lee, and we can't remember he asked, you want to hear? 55:00.277 --> 55:11.004 [SPEAKER_04]: If you listen to a couple of two weeks ago, he asked what she'd do as wife wants to get married, and I don't know what to do, so we gave him, let's see what he says. 55:11.044 --> 55:14.127 [SPEAKER_04]: How dare you guys give me actually good advice. 55:14.907 --> 55:15.427 [SPEAKER_04]: fine. 55:15.948 --> 55:16.468 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll do it. 55:16.528 --> 55:20.350 [SPEAKER_04]: She said she'd be okay with the cheap wedding in the past. 55:20.410 --> 55:22.571 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll make sure to tag you guys when it's announced. 55:23.011 --> 55:24.372 [SPEAKER_04]: No, tag us, Leonardo. 55:24.392 --> 55:25.252 [SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna invite us. 55:26.113 --> 55:27.854 [SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna invite us to wedding. 55:27.954 --> 55:28.654 [SPEAKER_04]: You'll put us up. 55:29.094 --> 55:29.415 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that it? 55:29.895 --> 55:30.595 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that a buffet? 55:31.316 --> 55:33.096 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, wrong bar. 55:33.116 --> 55:34.537 [SPEAKER_02]: Ring money to fly us out. 55:34.617 --> 55:37.159 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you'll fly us out, you'll put us up. 55:37.799 --> 55:40.640 [SPEAKER_04]: We got to, I mean, lean out or now that's what you 55:42.422 --> 55:47.028 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, congratulations Leonardo for, you know, listening to us on that. 55:47.929 --> 55:52.575 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, we have, uh, audio messages from our men, wilder knives of Alaska. 55:53.256 --> 55:57.241 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, he sent us, I don't, I think we, I don't think we played this, but I think it's great. 55:57.862 --> 55:59.404 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, he sent us an audio message. 56:01.649 --> 56:06.071 [SPEAKER_03]: couple weeks back you guys were talking about accidental online purchases. 56:06.612 --> 56:13.055 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we had a guy in our office that had an Alexis speaker that he would use to play music and stuff. 56:13.415 --> 56:13.675 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 56:13.715 --> 56:25.081 [SPEAKER_04]: So there was a guy who who bought a knife and then he claimed that his phone was rattling around as pocket and accidentally bought it and you want to get a refund, right? 56:25.621 --> 56:26.141 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 56:26.161 --> 56:29.003 [SPEAKER_04]: So this is let's go back to a wilder of that. 56:29.863 --> 56:31.684 [SPEAKER_03]: And we figured out it was connected. 56:31.704 --> 56:34.305 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to start over a couple weeks back. 56:34.345 --> 56:37.907 [SPEAKER_03]: You guys were talking about accidental online purchases. 56:38.448 --> 56:44.911 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we had a guide or office that had an Alexis speaker that he would use to play music and stuff. 56:45.291 --> 56:48.373 [SPEAKER_03]: And we figured out it was connected to his Amazon account. 56:49.093 --> 56:56.136 [SPEAKER_03]: We started ordering random stuff and we always tried to make it correlate with some conversation We had earlier in the day. 56:56.556 --> 57:10.881 [SPEAKER_03]: So eventually he was convinced that the speaker was listening to him and randomly ordering stuff and He had everything show up from hockey skates kitchen gadgets football jerseys snorkel gear. 57:11.521 --> 57:12.101 [SPEAKER_03]: It was nuts 57:13.862 --> 57:15.382 [SPEAKER_03]: Eventually he was paranoid enough. 57:15.402 --> 57:40.149 [SPEAKER_03]: He threw the speaker away and then what really broke the camel's back was after he threw the speaker away His wife had worked something, but it showed up as a random Address they didn't recognize so they canceled all their cards and had to spend the next month figuring out and reset and up their cards on everything Yeah, he was pretty upset 57:40.990 --> 57:45.936 [SPEAKER_03]: It was pretty funny though, and we didn't tell him about it for probably about six months. 57:46.977 --> 57:54.928 [SPEAKER_03]: He was able to get refunded on all of the Amazon purchases though, so wasn't too bad, but it was pretty funny. 57:57.978 --> 58:00.701 [SPEAKER_05]: It should have ordered another speaker, did you live it to the house? 58:00.821 --> 58:01.702 [SPEAKER_05]: That would be awesome. 58:01.842 --> 58:02.522 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god. 58:02.542 --> 58:05.645 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's people's pranks are unbelievable. 58:06.506 --> 58:10.770 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, imagine having to go through all that, canceling only a card, some dealing with banks. 58:11.310 --> 58:19.278 [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, you know, I mentioned this a while ago, this are mentioned that we had a guy, bought all these knives through his company. 58:19.958 --> 58:22.541 [SPEAKER_04]: And then the company, and then we got a charge back. 58:23.061 --> 58:33.612 [SPEAKER_04]: When we were, I told you they charge, they bought all these knives, and then all of a sudden I got a message from Alice and saying, the company that bought all these knives did a charge back and then took all the money back. 58:33.652 --> 58:35.894 [SPEAKER_04]: They had all the knives, took all the money back, and we had to work out. 58:36.455 --> 58:41.519 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it finally worked out, and what happened was the counting department. 58:42.140 --> 59:07.582 [SPEAKER_04]: was saw some fraudulent stuff and they started doing taking away and the bank did not help anybody and it was a really big problem because they were going to have to resubmit you know the whatever and it turned out thank god Allison just you know Shopify has this thing where you can you where you can kind of appeal the charge back and the appeal did more than anybody else and we ended up getting all of our money back but it took like a month 59:09.183 --> 59:11.144 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it was a pain in a giant pain in the ass. 59:11.384 --> 59:12.265 [SPEAKER_05]: God, that's frustrating. 59:12.305 --> 59:13.525 [SPEAKER_05]: Dealin' with banks. 59:13.645 --> 59:16.767 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they ended up, this made its whole sweats. 59:16.867 --> 59:24.150 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they couldn't get any customer service and it was really one of those things where and then this company had to go through a million orders. 59:24.610 --> 59:29.993 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, they just like, you know, what was, you know, what they needed, what they didn't was really kind of pain in the ass. 59:31.624 --> 59:36.926 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell you what, if you're looking for a good customer service mind and you didn't the market for a grind, uh, what would you go, Jeffrey? 59:36.986 --> 59:58.593 [SPEAKER_04]: I would go to BroadwayCenterworks.com and I saw Ryan Broadway back this past weekend and there's more announcements, BroadwayCenterworks is part of, I don't know, I don't remember the name of the company but it's been, it's part of, I think it's CL Hanson, it's this new, it's this company and they've just purchased, uh, and it's all out there and we're going to talk more about that in the future but he's super happy, it's are usually happy with the company 59:59.694 --> 01:00:11.064 [SPEAKER_04]: Broadback ironworks is great and they're gonna I don't know how it's gonna work, but so far We're gonna stick with a good of a broadback ironworks and put in the promo good knife talk 10 For 10% off. 01:00:11.184 --> 01:00:20.593 [SPEAKER_04]: There's a great the great grinders are my favorite grinders and they're very versatile and they're very User friendly and they get great attachments and if you put in the promo good knife talk 10 01:00:21.173 --> 01:00:22.054 [SPEAKER_04]: You get 10% off. 01:00:22.074 --> 01:00:29.179 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're either going to, I'm either going to, we're going to get some, you know, some information from seal Hanson or maybe we'll have Brian on. 01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:32.161 [SPEAKER_04]: He was saying if I could come on, but he's really happy. 01:00:32.181 --> 01:00:33.341 [SPEAKER_04]: All of them paperwork is done. 01:00:33.381 --> 01:00:36.363 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a lot of work, but, you know, they're really happy with the decision they made. 01:00:36.423 --> 01:00:42.768 [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, Brodbeck's going to have a different, different look, but I think, different looking in the most positive ways. 01:00:44.430 --> 01:00:45.892 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's good. 01:00:46.113 --> 01:00:46.673 [SPEAKER_05]: Very good news. 01:00:46.814 --> 01:00:53.904 [SPEAKER_05]: Very good news because I mean they were they were they grew from the sort of community didn't they, you know, and now to see them, you know, going on to, you know, great things. 01:00:53.984 --> 01:00:54.665 [SPEAKER_05]: It's really nice. 01:00:54.685 --> 01:00:55.687 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, super great. 01:00:55.707 --> 01:00:58.531 [SPEAKER_05]: So you're after if you're after a grinder head to brought back ironworks.com. 01:00:59.392 --> 01:01:00.412 [SPEAKER_04]: We have some more feedback. 01:01:00.432 --> 01:01:01.613 [SPEAKER_04]: We talked about people's nicknames. 01:01:01.633 --> 01:01:02.093 [SPEAKER_04]: Remember nicknames? 01:01:02.133 --> 01:01:03.454 [SPEAKER_04]: The listeners are, yes, funny nicknames. 01:01:03.474 --> 01:01:04.574 [SPEAKER_04]: The listeners love sending into funny nicknames. 01:01:04.594 --> 01:01:05.955 [SPEAKER_04]: Armand, Speedster Stove, Tugby Champion of the World. 01:01:06.015 --> 01:01:18.460 [SPEAKER_04]: It says on nicknames, a train, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, 01:01:19.441 --> 01:01:27.328 [SPEAKER_04]: A training partner of mine had a friend who had a nickname, Tratch, he explained it as he was so ugly. 01:01:27.408 --> 01:01:29.350 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a tragedy he was ever born. 01:01:29.370 --> 01:01:30.832 [SPEAKER_04]: And they were his friends. 01:01:31.612 --> 01:01:32.914 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a terrible thing. 01:01:32.934 --> 01:01:33.254 [SPEAKER_04]: That's it. 01:01:33.274 --> 01:01:34.355 [SPEAKER_04]: That's it. 01:01:34.375 --> 01:01:35.276 [SPEAKER_04]: You should call him. 01:01:36.657 --> 01:01:39.480 [SPEAKER_04]: If you call me Tratch, I had nicknamed me and you asshole. 01:01:39.780 --> 01:01:42.282 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'd make sure that was your name forever. 01:01:44.805 --> 01:01:59.918 [SPEAKER_04]: that's that's terrible you you can't guys in the australians and you see others you guys look you gotta have your stomachs denied you you cast iron stomachs for as you cruelty 809 says hey guys they have an unwanted nick name story for you 01:02:00.458 --> 01:02:05.183 [SPEAKER_04]: The name, the name that I was at school, I had pretty poor imagine the naming. 01:02:06.144 --> 01:02:08.086 [SPEAKER_04]: At school I had a pretty poor imagination. 01:02:08.166 --> 01:02:12.870 [SPEAKER_04]: If your surname was a single syllable, they added why to the end of it. 01:02:13.331 --> 01:02:14.392 [SPEAKER_04]: That was your nickname. 01:02:14.572 --> 01:02:18.796 [SPEAKER_04]: Smith became Smithy, Jones became Jonesy, et cetera. 01:02:18.856 --> 01:02:21.519 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, my surname is Neil. 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.482 [SPEAKER_04]: So adding a why, everyone called me Neily. 01:02:25.042 --> 01:02:28.743 [SPEAKER_04]: That was fine until we had class with Mr. Davis in one day. 01:02:28.764 --> 01:02:34.066 [SPEAKER_04]: I was struggling to get the last part of an assignment that he'd set for us. 01:02:34.266 --> 01:02:45.430 [SPEAKER_04]: Instead of helping me, like a decent teacher would, he declared an allowed voice that I had the most appropriate, that I had the most appropriate nickname that he'd ever heard. 01:02:45.870 --> 01:02:51.653 [SPEAKER_04]: I asked him why he intentionally mispronounced it to make it sound like nearly. 01:02:52.893 --> 01:02:54.937 [SPEAKER_04]: He said, that's right name for you, isn't it? 01:02:55.337 --> 01:02:59.083 [SPEAKER_04]: It's as you never managed to anything fully. 01:02:59.143 --> 01:03:02.609 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm changing your name for a nearly to almost. 01:03:03.965 --> 01:03:08.527 [SPEAKER_04]: From that day on, everyone who spoke to me called me almost and I hated it. 01:03:08.547 --> 01:03:30.136 [SPEAKER_04]: Just come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your house, come back to your 01:03:31.105 --> 01:03:50.339 [SPEAKER_04]: giant normus caper that is like shit head city yeah that really it's all your parents out there listening to this we're right we're I'm not this is a good correct way for obscenities imagine that dude if somebody did that to my kid they would be some fucking words 01:03:52.755 --> 01:03:55.516 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh dude, no matter what shit. 01:03:55.536 --> 01:04:08.264 [SPEAKER_04]: I was one of the things that I never understood as my father was relatively cruel to me, but if any teacher was cruel to me or said anything to me, he was like my greatest defender. 01:04:08.524 --> 01:04:15.329 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I almost wished, more teachers would be mean to me because that's the way I could get the love of my father. 01:04:17.070 --> 01:04:26.596 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you, it was crazy like all of a sudden a teacher would say something in my father would be like like a fucking rabid dog Defending his son and I was just a part of me. 01:04:26.617 --> 01:04:31.620 [SPEAKER_04]: He's just like God, maybe I should get no more trouble You know, because he's the only way just to go fuck themselves. 01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:36.723 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah He fucking hated and the crazy part is I used it 01:04:37.684 --> 01:04:53.888 [SPEAKER_04]: Not intentionally, this is probably trying to, when my daughter was younger, I for sure intimidated some of my daughter's teachers because they, I would stand there at the meetings I would be very straight-faced and then, you know, tattooed arms and then my arms crossed and I would have a sneer in my face or something like that. 01:04:54.288 --> 01:05:03.370 [SPEAKER_04]: And so many of my daughter's teachers would say, well, daughter's teachers would say that to a lot of them say, I don't think your dad likes me very much and she's like, no, no, no, he's just like that. 01:05:03.670 --> 01:05:05.491 [SPEAKER_04]: But I, I remember, I felt like that was part 01:05:08.111 --> 01:05:34.458 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 01:05:35.473 --> 01:05:40.434 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I've got my hand sanding down to only half a sheet of sandpaper. 01:05:40.834 --> 01:05:41.614 [SPEAKER_02]: It's so efficient. 01:05:41.714 --> 01:05:42.034 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow. 01:05:42.434 --> 01:06:01.938 [SPEAKER_02]: I love it But if I'm going to get some I'm going to go over to Texas Ferry Supply and I'll make sure to put in Night Talk 10 when I check out through Texas Ferry Supply Whatever they got for you whatever you need outside that sandpaper it that that promo code's good for all of that Hammer's tools whatever they got 01:06:03.038 --> 01:06:07.480 [SPEAKER_02]: So go text go text amount go check them out and get that in Dosarano. 01:06:07.500 --> 01:06:14.463 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's save your ass and save your hands and get your beliefs in it out Perfect. 01:06:14.863 --> 01:06:15.223 [SPEAKER_05]: Perfect. 01:06:16.204 --> 01:06:18.685 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, go on the Jeff. 01:06:18.765 --> 01:06:19.625 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, what do you want to do? 01:06:20.954 --> 01:06:21.534 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, sorry. 01:06:21.554 --> 01:06:23.335 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought you said you had to, um, we paid back. 01:06:23.375 --> 01:06:23.615 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 01:06:23.635 --> 01:06:24.456 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see back. 01:06:24.476 --> 01:06:25.156 [SPEAKER_04]: We have feedback. 01:06:25.196 --> 01:06:26.537 [SPEAKER_04]: We have, uh, it's up to you. 01:06:26.837 --> 01:06:28.178 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, we could do for some feedback. 01:06:28.218 --> 01:06:29.258 [SPEAKER_04]: I just lost everything. 01:06:29.598 --> 01:06:31.319 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, we could do feedback. 01:06:31.339 --> 01:06:32.280 [SPEAKER_04]: We could do ultimate tips. 01:06:32.300 --> 01:06:33.320 [SPEAKER_04]: We could do Darwin Awards. 01:06:34.120 --> 01:06:34.941 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, anything you want. 01:06:35.961 --> 01:06:37.002 [SPEAKER_04]: Should we do Darwin award? 01:06:37.302 --> 01:06:38.122 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're fun. 01:06:38.983 --> 01:06:39.563 [SPEAKER_04]: They're fun. 01:06:39.603 --> 01:06:39.783 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:06:39.803 --> 01:06:40.884 [SPEAKER_04]: The Darwin Awards are fun. 01:06:41.424 --> 01:06:47.307 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, we did, uh, I'm trying to see where we are. 01:06:47.327 --> 01:06:49.688 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, uh, 01:06:54.683 --> 01:06:56.924 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, this one's from, I think we did this one. 01:06:56.984 --> 01:07:00.805 [SPEAKER_04]: Vost customs begin her knife maker from Netherlands here. 01:07:00.825 --> 01:07:03.625 [SPEAKER_04]: I caught up with the current episodes and I'm going through the last few years. 01:07:04.005 --> 01:07:05.486 [SPEAKER_04]: I have one for the door, Darwin's. 01:07:06.326 --> 01:07:10.487 [SPEAKER_04]: There was an old guy in my first shop in the, oh yeah, we did that one was disgusting. 01:07:11.167 --> 01:07:14.688 [SPEAKER_04]: Justin Miller says, my entry for the Darwin Awards, I was forging some, 01:07:15.648 --> 01:07:20.750 [SPEAKER_04]: stainless steel sand my and decided to go one more heat at welding temperature. 01:07:21.290 --> 01:07:32.474 [SPEAKER_04]: Well the billet got too hot and as I pulled it out of the forge it's split in half and a healthy piece of billet ricocheted straight through my pants off my dangly bits. 01:07:32.915 --> 01:07:36.216 [SPEAKER_04]: You got to have a hot steel on the junk. 01:07:36.256 --> 01:07:38.697 [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing like a giant blister on my boys. 01:07:38.857 --> 01:07:41.038 [SPEAKER_04]: No tugby practice for a good while after that. 01:07:47.550 --> 01:07:48.071 [SPEAKER_05]: Love that. 01:07:48.251 --> 01:07:49.793 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, tugby tugby is the thing. 01:07:49.813 --> 01:08:00.023 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, I'm gonna have to figure out a way to make tugby shirts Thomas Franklin says here's the Darwin Awards edge quenching the J.S. 01:08:00.083 --> 01:08:05.749 [SPEAKER_04]: Test knives I've I've made a hundred of these knives, but it's always full quenched blade. 01:08:06.109 --> 01:08:08.191 [SPEAKER_04]: I decided I need to do an edge quenched 01:08:09.032 --> 01:08:19.635 [SPEAKER_04]: I go to buy a restaurant hot well pan that's perfect, but like a hotel pan, a hotel pan which is perfect but I went wrong in two major ways. 01:08:20.215 --> 01:08:23.596 [SPEAKER_04]: First I got to pan those two shallow, second I didn't buy the lid. 01:08:24.096 --> 01:08:28.437 [SPEAKER_04]: I set up some stops in the pan so I would only quench the bottom into the knife. 01:08:28.937 --> 01:08:32.378 [SPEAKER_04]: The quencher went great, but it instantly caught the pan on fire. 01:08:32.858 --> 01:08:40.820 [SPEAKER_04]: In my nice shop with foam insulation, I found the first piece of scraps sheet steel and put it out, but it wasn't pretty. 01:08:40.860 --> 01:08:44.161 [SPEAKER_04]: The fire splashing out the sides and the full shop of smoke. 01:08:44.561 --> 01:08:49.242 [SPEAKER_04]: The nightmare as my six-year-old was filming me for eight feet away. 01:08:49.562 --> 01:08:53.023 [SPEAKER_04]: Thankfully, no one was harmed, I still get nauseous thinking about it. 01:08:53.083 --> 01:08:53.823 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god. 01:08:54.923 --> 01:08:56.163 [SPEAKER_04]: That shit is scary, man. 01:08:56.603 --> 01:08:58.184 [SPEAKER_04]: That shit is scary. 01:08:59.904 --> 01:09:06.426 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the, it sounds like possibly he heated up the whole blade and then quench just the edge. 01:09:07.566 --> 01:09:10.346 [SPEAKER_04]: I think the, is that how you head quench, quench, you don't? 01:09:10.466 --> 01:09:11.547 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, how do you head just? 01:09:11.567 --> 01:09:14.487 [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen, well, I was just going to say I've seen that done. 01:09:15.247 --> 01:09:17.988 [SPEAKER_02]: I've actually done it myself and yes, it does catch on fire. 01:09:18.008 --> 01:09:25.969 [SPEAKER_02]: Now he knows, but another probably more safe way to do that would be to use like, 01:09:28.990 --> 01:09:47.057 [SPEAKER_02]: Torch and heat up the edge and do basically do a torch heat treat and and then quench let's trick you it is very tricky Especially if you're doing anything over like six inches it's hard to keep everything the right temperature That's for sure, so she said 01:09:50.268 --> 01:09:51.329 [SPEAKER_05]: We haven't said that in a while. 01:09:51.749 --> 01:09:56.631 [SPEAKER_05]: And I always thought that all edge questions was done with a fully, with a fully hot, full blade. 01:09:56.951 --> 01:10:03.354 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I've never assumed people would use a torch because that's got, you know, you said that's gotta be tricky, not to overheat or anything. 01:10:03.475 --> 01:10:04.295 [SPEAKER_04]: I guess that too. 01:10:04.515 --> 01:10:06.216 [SPEAKER_04]: I guess I, I guess I felt the same way. 01:10:06.792 --> 01:10:19.336 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, torchy treats definitely a thing is, but yeah, it is a very tricky process because you have to, you know, have to get hit the right temperature and got to keep everything hot. 01:10:19.796 --> 01:10:32.120 [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if there's a way to do it in the kiln where you like sandwich most of the blade between a couple bricks and only the part of the blade you want to harden is exposed to the ambient air and then you just slide the blade out. 01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.082 [SPEAKER_02]: And quench it that way, but I don't know. 01:10:35.943 --> 01:10:41.228 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I haven't really played a whole lot with edge quenching blades. 01:10:41.788 --> 01:10:43.510 [SPEAKER_04]: What would be nowadays? 01:10:43.890 --> 01:10:46.312 [SPEAKER_04]: What would be the benefit of just edge quenching? 01:10:48.113 --> 01:10:52.976 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think soft to spines, so that's brittle spine, but for what would that be? 01:10:53.056 --> 01:10:54.077 [SPEAKER_04]: What would be the benefit there? 01:10:54.837 --> 01:10:57.599 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, people batten in through wood and stuff like that. 01:10:57.619 --> 01:10:58.420 [SPEAKER_05]: Hard on the same. 01:10:58.720 --> 01:10:59.620 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, camp knives. 01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:01.101 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or really boon knives. 01:11:01.141 --> 01:11:01.381 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:11:01.842 --> 01:11:02.042 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:11:02.482 --> 01:11:11.168 [SPEAKER_02]: That way, the rest of the steel stays in an unhardened state, essentially, making it very, very tough with an extremely hard edge. 01:11:12.050 --> 01:11:29.895 [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, a lot of Japanese swords, I guess one of the common construction styles for Japanese swords is to have essentially rod iron or low carbon steel wrapped around a high carbon edge. 01:11:30.491 --> 01:11:32.232 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're getting essentially the same thing. 01:11:32.252 --> 01:11:38.616 [SPEAKER_02]: You get a hard edge and then all the steel around it that makes the body of the sword is all soft steel. 01:11:38.656 --> 01:11:39.276 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's tough. 01:11:40.637 --> 01:11:55.225 [SPEAKER_04]: If you just put whatever that clock they use for the cement that cement for doing sand mines, are for doing like a hormone, couldn't you treat the whole, couldn't you just wouldn't get similar results? 01:11:55.666 --> 01:11:58.267 [SPEAKER_04]: If you insulated the top of the knife 01:12:00.689 --> 01:12:01.010 [SPEAKER_04]: bear. 01:12:01.530 --> 01:12:05.676 [SPEAKER_04]: If you just he treated it and I kill him with all of it and then you get to say. 01:12:05.916 --> 01:12:08.359 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, but you would still want to do it. 01:12:08.740 --> 01:12:10.602 [SPEAKER_02]: You would do a fully submerged play. 01:12:11.123 --> 01:12:12.305 [SPEAKER_04]: But you can still get the edge. 01:12:12.485 --> 01:12:17.672 [SPEAKER_04]: The edge was watching call would be insulated and you wouldn't risk the problems. 01:12:18.092 --> 01:12:25.695 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, that's just a, I mean, there are a lot of different ways to do a differential hardening, but essentially that was that's what you would be doing. 01:12:25.755 --> 01:12:38.921 [SPEAKER_02]: But instead of partially quenching like along the edge, you would do a full submerging, a submerging, and then the portion of the blade that is insulated doesn't cool down fast enough to properly transform into martensight. 01:12:41.249 --> 01:12:45.795 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you have a martensitic edge with a non-martensitic body of the blade. 01:12:46.096 --> 01:12:48.078 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, I think that's probably a better... 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:49.701 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be safer, right? 01:12:50.061 --> 01:12:51.163 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be a bit safer. 01:12:52.225 --> 01:13:11.215 [SPEAKER_04]: Because you're not even if you're not looking for a home on, yeah, like you still get like you'd still get the same thing and maybe for sure be less I I tell you what I I get I almost always when terms to quenching like I guess I get this big chopper here I like measure how much oil I have and how big my tank is because I'm 01:13:11.535 --> 01:13:15.037 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want, I don't want big flare-ups and flames to get in. 01:13:15.397 --> 01:13:16.578 [SPEAKER_04]: You never know what's going to happen. 01:13:16.598 --> 01:13:18.319 [SPEAKER_04]: I told a story in my old intern. 01:13:18.779 --> 01:13:31.106 [SPEAKER_04]: He pulled, and I told him not to, I told him to keep the kid asking for a forging in, and he pulled it out, and the flames came up on the start following him, and I asked him why he says, I wanted to know what's going to happen. 01:13:31.986 --> 01:13:35.268 [SPEAKER_04]: Shit, fucking, fucking ignite, shit ignites! 01:13:37.060 --> 01:13:37.601 [SPEAKER_04]: I hate it. 01:13:37.641 --> 01:13:45.545 [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I think that's probably one of the reasons why I like save us so much just because you don't have any of that, you know, razzled, that extra razzled, that's on your life. 01:13:48.927 --> 01:13:49.227 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 01:13:49.528 --> 01:13:49.808 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 01:13:51.232 --> 01:13:54.875 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, boo, I'm going to do a question. 01:13:55.236 --> 01:13:58.579 [SPEAKER_05]: Just could I've seen it and I've got an answer for it, really. 01:14:00.060 --> 01:14:02.021 [SPEAKER_05]: Dom Rav designs. 01:14:02.041 --> 01:14:04.844 [SPEAKER_05]: I've got a question about 3D printing handles. 01:14:04.864 --> 01:14:08.787 [SPEAKER_05]: So I printed a few handles over the years to test out length size shape and so on. 01:14:09.247 --> 01:14:11.509 [SPEAKER_05]: But Craig mentioned using them to cast handles. 01:14:12.330 --> 01:14:14.191 [SPEAKER_05]: I should go and back to residents that we talked about earlier. 01:14:14.652 --> 01:14:19.255 [SPEAKER_05]: Just curious how you'd approach doing that with the 3D printer, what materials you'd use for the final handle. 01:14:20.415 --> 01:14:29.702 [SPEAKER_05]: So basically, they'd be for pores for doing resin pores, or, I mean, Jeff also talked about, you know, having doing pores with birds and stuff. 01:14:30.042 --> 01:14:33.544 [SPEAKER_05]: You basically, you need some to contain what you're pouring in. 01:14:33.604 --> 01:14:36.006 [SPEAKER_05]: So I've 3D printed, you know. 01:14:37.106 --> 01:14:39.107 [SPEAKER_05]: Perfect things for handles that way. 01:14:39.187 --> 01:14:45.530 [SPEAKER_05]: What you need to do is because depending on what plastics you use and it could be a bit porous, particularly the way 3D printing works with those lines. 01:14:47.151 --> 01:14:50.272 [SPEAKER_05]: I also use the rubber stuff that you can use for mold making. 01:14:51.033 --> 01:14:54.854 [SPEAKER_05]: I just put the lightest sort of line in inside. 01:14:55.155 --> 01:14:57.736 [SPEAKER_05]: Just do a pour and just move it around and pour it out. 01:14:57.756 --> 01:14:59.056 [SPEAKER_05]: Just get the lightest line in. 01:14:59.376 --> 01:15:00.297 [SPEAKER_05]: Just let that set. 01:15:01.037 --> 01:15:08.122 [SPEAKER_05]: Because that also really helps then get anything that you, you cast in it, just help you get out really, really easy. 01:15:08.403 --> 01:15:11.044 [SPEAKER_05]: Because it's got that sort of rubber line into it. 01:15:11.345 --> 01:15:13.946 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, they're not going to be sort of millimeter perfect. 01:15:13.966 --> 01:15:20.811 [SPEAKER_05]: You always make them bigger because whatever you make, you want to sort of reduce down to what you're making rather than the other way you can add. 01:15:22.232 --> 01:15:25.955 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, they're great for making molds, handles and things like that. 01:15:26.621 --> 01:15:30.064 [SPEAKER_04]: I have a question, with a 3D printer. 01:15:31.044 --> 01:15:36.268 [SPEAKER_04]: Could you make a file to do the handle and the sheath? 01:15:37.649 --> 01:15:39.490 [SPEAKER_04]: And then you press the button to go. 01:15:40.071 --> 01:15:42.913 [SPEAKER_04]: It does halfway, the handle and the sheath. 01:15:43.293 --> 01:15:46.856 [SPEAKER_04]: Then halfway, then you stick your knife blank in. 01:15:47.697 --> 01:15:49.278 [SPEAKER_04]: That's embedded in the handle. 01:15:49.738 --> 01:15:51.179 [SPEAKER_04]: And then you press go again. 01:15:51.299 --> 01:15:54.462 [SPEAKER_04]: And then it finishes off embedding the knife 01:15:57.973 --> 01:15:58.153 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:15:58.955 --> 01:16:08.248 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I've seen people do prints where they posit at a certain point to insert magnets or some sort of hardware and then continue the print. 01:16:08.949 --> 01:16:09.590 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the move. 01:16:11.059 --> 01:16:11.699 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about it. 01:16:11.719 --> 01:16:12.480 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's something to help you. 01:16:12.500 --> 01:16:14.100 [SPEAKER_02]: They did it without any seams. 01:16:14.861 --> 01:16:15.081 [SPEAKER_04]: What? 01:16:15.501 --> 01:16:15.881 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:16:16.041 --> 01:16:16.722 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how I feel. 01:16:16.762 --> 01:16:17.182 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like. 01:16:17.202 --> 01:16:18.022 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a 3D print. 01:16:19.323 --> 01:16:19.663 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 01:16:19.783 --> 01:16:19.963 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 01:16:20.123 --> 01:16:21.364 [SPEAKER_04]: You finished the knife. 01:16:21.904 --> 01:16:23.005 [SPEAKER_04]: The knife is ready to go. 01:16:23.245 --> 01:16:29.488 [SPEAKER_04]: Like you make the knife in the tank and then you just kind of like, it's halfway done. 01:16:29.528 --> 01:16:36.231 [SPEAKER_04]: It's on the bottom side of the scales and then now you drop the knife in and I see what you mean. 01:16:36.251 --> 01:16:37.792 [SPEAKER_04]: And then it's like, I wouldn't want to. 01:16:39.575 --> 01:16:43.700 [SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't want to print a handle that's going to be used. 01:16:43.981 --> 01:16:48.166 [SPEAKER_05]: I've used them for the demos and things I land in test size and and stuff. 01:16:48.607 --> 01:16:51.851 [SPEAKER_05]: Actually use a ability of it, it's not the strongest. 01:16:52.031 --> 01:16:52.913 [SPEAKER_05]: It wouldn't be very strong. 01:16:53.013 --> 01:16:54.414 [SPEAKER_05]: In future, it's stronger. 01:16:54.875 --> 01:16:57.098 [SPEAKER_04]: So at some point, you're going to be able to just do it all. 01:16:57.324 --> 01:16:58.365 [SPEAKER_05]: No, it will be. 01:16:58.385 --> 01:16:58.685 [SPEAKER_05]: It will be. 01:16:58.885 --> 01:17:07.052 [SPEAKER_05]: And actually, I've seen people do things where they're printing things and then they're painting them with a resin on top because you think of the way a 3D print works. 01:17:07.172 --> 01:17:11.716 [SPEAKER_05]: It makes layers so it's easily, it's easily shears if you put a force on it against 01:17:15.659 --> 01:17:16.420 [SPEAKER_05]: against the layers. 01:17:16.620 --> 01:17:20.644 [SPEAKER_05]: Those layers can snap really easily, so they haven't got much sort torsional strength. 01:17:20.944 --> 01:17:23.066 [SPEAKER_05]: But I've seen people paint in them then with resins. 01:17:23.807 --> 01:17:26.209 [SPEAKER_05]: And that really makes them really, really strong. 01:17:26.369 --> 01:17:31.854 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, so you could use that as like a base layer and then you know, make a dip in a resin. 01:17:32.595 --> 01:17:34.416 [SPEAKER_05]: And that could be quite interesting to do. 01:17:34.676 --> 01:17:39.080 [SPEAKER_05]: But generally it's going to be quite light and quite, yeah, not the strongest on it. 01:17:39.100 --> 01:17:41.823 [SPEAKER_04]: So I saw 3D printed metal recently. 01:17:42.143 --> 01:18:06.448 [SPEAKER_04]: I have 3D, I'm like- Yeah, oh yeah, they've been doing that for a while, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 01:18:08.078 --> 01:18:10.141 [SPEAKER_02]: I keep wanting to get sick camp, but it's not. 01:18:10.201 --> 01:18:13.846 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a place where people can go and make shit. 01:18:13.907 --> 01:18:16.671 [SPEAKER_02]: And they don't have to own the fucking equipment, right? 01:18:17.712 --> 01:18:20.717 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just brought borrowers, swapping. 01:18:20.737 --> 01:18:22.459 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it's not, it's like a hell of a... 01:18:23.120 --> 01:18:25.703 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, almost like a make a space, like a space. 01:18:25.783 --> 01:18:26.824 [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus fucking. 01:18:26.904 --> 01:18:27.244 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:18:27.685 --> 01:18:28.165 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry kids. 01:18:28.606 --> 01:18:29.566 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, parents. 01:18:29.727 --> 01:18:30.307 [SPEAKER_04]: The parents. 01:18:30.387 --> 01:18:31.368 [SPEAKER_04]: So the parents listening. 01:18:31.629 --> 01:18:32.970 [SPEAKER_04]: Remember, that was brick. 01:18:33.030 --> 01:18:33.711 [SPEAKER_04]: That wasn't dumb. 01:18:33.751 --> 01:18:34.331 [SPEAKER_04]: Come at me. 01:18:34.351 --> 01:18:34.571 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:18:34.631 --> 01:18:36.153 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:18:36.654 --> 01:18:36.934 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:18:37.655 --> 01:18:41.638 [SPEAKER_02]: Megersway, they have one of those metal 3D printers. 01:18:42.833 --> 01:18:53.432 [SPEAKER_02]: It's I haven't there's tons of stuff they have there I haven't played with they have like a what is it a water jet and a laser Plasma tables they got all kinds of crazy stuff 01:18:54.388 --> 01:19:06.636 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I like the idea of using the 3D printer to create, uh, basically printing the positive and then using it to make a mold, uh, for doing, yeah, resin casted handles. 01:19:06.696 --> 01:19:08.177 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a really cool concept. 01:19:08.217 --> 01:19:13.561 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been actually following, uh, a maker that 3D prints, um, 01:19:14.777 --> 01:19:32.758 [SPEAKER_02]: And then creates slipcasting molds, which is like a slow approach to doing ceramics, when you're not really like throwing things, you're just pouring more kind of a liquidy clay into a, uh, uh, unto a mold and letting it set up a little bit before. 01:19:33.258 --> 01:19:40.360 [SPEAKER_02]: releasing it from the mold, but they're making the positives for those molds out of 3D printed, and they're getting crazy design. 01:19:40.420 --> 01:19:41.280 [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty interesting. 01:19:42.040 --> 01:19:50.262 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's almost kind of, to me, it feels like it almost got a borders on the, like, is this AIR? 01:19:50.322 --> 01:19:53.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Is this something that somebody's like, they're coming up with the idea? 01:19:53.323 --> 01:19:54.843 [SPEAKER_02]: And then they're just plugging in. 01:19:54.883 --> 01:20:01.345 [SPEAKER_02]: So a few words are they really like getting in and using the software to like really fully design and create these shapes 01:20:03.485 --> 01:20:04.646 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's pretty interesting. 01:20:06.088 --> 01:20:06.268 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:20:06.288 --> 01:20:11.673 [SPEAKER_05]: I think the skill is with, I mean, basically, 3D printers, it's a CNC machine, isn't it? 01:20:11.693 --> 01:20:14.235 [SPEAKER_05]: It just screwed stuff rather than having a spinning tool on it, you know? 01:20:15.536 --> 01:20:22.122 [SPEAKER_05]: I think the skill with all those things is learning to sort of, to master them and that design process of making the models, you know? 01:20:22.703 --> 01:20:23.604 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're right. 01:20:23.864 --> 01:20:27.227 [SPEAKER_05]: AI can do that now, and it's quite crazy, but yeah. 01:20:28.021 --> 01:20:34.144 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've never brought this part up, but it is interesting is I have a knife from Aaron Goff, our friend Aaron Goff. 01:20:34.224 --> 01:20:37.746 [SPEAKER_05]: I have one of his knives from the Resolute. 01:20:38.046 --> 01:20:39.767 [SPEAKER_04]: I have the Resolute, you mark three. 01:20:39.787 --> 01:20:44.489 [SPEAKER_04]: I have two of them, and one of them was made like six years after the first one. 01:20:45.190 --> 01:20:49.332 [SPEAKER_04]: When you put them up together, it really is pretty interesting how close they are together. 01:20:50.592 --> 01:20:53.354 [SPEAKER_04]: Even within all of his changes and everything like that. 01:20:54.154 --> 01:20:56.916 [SPEAKER_04]: They're almost identical, and it's amazing. 01:20:57.076 --> 01:20:59.398 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I got one with different colors and different steels and stuff again. 01:20:59.418 --> 01:21:03.621 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that what he does is really quite amazing, and PSP, you don't know. 01:21:03.641 --> 01:21:12.067 [SPEAKER_04]: Aaron Goff is like, I mean, what he's done in terms of figuring out how to, you know, manufacture, micromanufacturing knives, and I don't know if he's doing it so. 01:21:12.087 --> 01:21:19.112 [SPEAKER_04]: But I have to get him back on at some point, but it is amazing, and he gets crazy because people think he's just present button the night pops out. 01:21:19.872 --> 01:21:24.135 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's where the oldest dumbest things in the book. 01:21:24.255 --> 01:21:35.803 [SPEAKER_04]: But pretty soon, I mean, these 3D printers, I mean, they get to the point where they're probably going to be able to mean, you're probably figure out ways to manufacture a type of G10. 01:21:35.964 --> 01:21:47.452 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, sure if you could, like, that whole idea of you start a layer and then you drop something in, like, a fiberglass layer, and do something drop a fiberglass layer, and you could probably tighten everything up and make it a little bit kind of closer to. 01:21:47.932 --> 01:21:51.433 [SPEAKER_04]: That's scaffolding of what my card RG to that G10 is. 01:21:52.674 --> 01:22:03.078 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, going, I've got no doubt that there's people now building through a silly introduction, uh, 3D printers with AI engines in them. 01:22:03.538 --> 01:22:05.699 [SPEAKER_05]: So you don't even have to bring a model to them. 01:22:05.739 --> 01:22:07.319 [SPEAKER_05]: You just tell them what you want to print. 01:22:07.660 --> 01:22:08.360 [SPEAKER_05]: And they'll be doing it. 01:22:08.400 --> 01:22:11.241 [SPEAKER_05]: I've got no doubt there's zero doubt zero doubt. 01:22:11.641 --> 01:22:11.841 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:22:11.961 --> 01:22:16.443 [SPEAKER_04]: And then what would, if all right, you have three different things to make. 01:22:17.862 --> 01:22:18.422 [SPEAKER_04]: for your house. 01:22:19.844 --> 01:22:24.468 [SPEAKER_04]: You get the 3D printer, you get the AI, saying, hey, Alexa, make me this. 01:22:24.488 --> 01:22:29.132 [SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to have to make? 01:22:29.172 --> 01:22:30.273 [SPEAKER_04]: Coffee scoops, right? 01:22:30.373 --> 01:22:30.773 [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody? 01:22:30.793 --> 01:22:32.555 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:22:32.935 --> 01:22:35.397 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:22:35.677 --> 01:22:36.978 [SPEAKER_02]: Like changing. 01:22:38.460 --> 01:22:39.200 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:22:39.240 --> 01:22:40.681 [SPEAKER_05]: Coffee scoops and bottle openings. 01:22:40.742 --> 01:22:42.183 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:22:42.203 --> 01:22:42.963 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, fuckers. 01:22:43.063 --> 01:22:45.125 [SPEAKER_04]: Love making coffee scoops, lazy germs. 01:22:47.879 --> 01:22:50.503 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even want to make art. 01:22:51.024 --> 01:22:53.849 [SPEAKER_04]: I'd probably want it to make like a lamp, you know? 01:22:53.869 --> 01:22:55.571 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 01:22:55.832 --> 01:22:56.533 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:22:56.753 --> 01:22:59.017 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, you could now. 01:22:59.077 --> 01:22:59.277 [SPEAKER_05]: But... 01:23:00.609 --> 01:23:09.115 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I use mine, you know, well, at least weekly, you know, just, you know, fixing things, making things, you know, all the time that, yeah, it's incredible. 01:23:10.136 --> 01:23:11.777 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how I manage with that one now. 01:23:11.977 --> 01:23:12.337 [SPEAKER_05]: Really. 01:23:12.638 --> 01:23:18.942 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, like, for my boat, the other day, I needed to make some stuff for it, and it was just like, yeah, does it very quick to design really quickly? 01:23:18.982 --> 01:23:20.523 [SPEAKER_04]: Very quick to design these things, or? 01:23:22.164 --> 01:23:24.346 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, I mean, it's like anything else. 01:23:24.366 --> 01:23:28.709 [SPEAKER_05]: You can do a quick rough design that will do the job very, very quickly, but if you want, you know. 01:23:31.802 --> 01:23:36.583 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I've made, um, little, like, holed us to put, like, some, I'm gonna say beer. 01:23:36.603 --> 01:23:45.445 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, to put, like, the navigation loads outside because, like, the official ones to buy the proper, they were 400 pounds. 01:23:45.805 --> 01:23:55.687 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, it took me, like, literally three or four minutes, you know, and then it'll print over night and then they're strong and they do the job, um, little, little latches, stop draws open in and things like that. 01:23:55.747 --> 01:23:57.607 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just, yeah, always use an armor. 01:23:57.627 --> 01:23:58.287 [SPEAKER_05]: Always use an armor. 01:24:01.129 --> 01:24:02.910 [SPEAKER_04]: Not my head around learning one more thing. 01:24:03.510 --> 01:24:11.692 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I'm really, I'm just so afraid of learning one more thing or putting my energy into learning one more thing. 01:24:12.132 --> 01:24:13.453 [SPEAKER_02]: You are good in the whole learning. 01:24:13.493 --> 01:24:13.713 [SPEAKER_02]: 53. 01:24:14.153 --> 01:24:14.713 [SPEAKER_02]: You are. 01:24:14.773 --> 01:24:15.473 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to learn. 01:24:15.513 --> 01:24:16.113 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to learn. 01:24:16.734 --> 01:24:17.854 [SPEAKER_02]: Me and I do years old. 01:24:17.974 --> 01:24:28.217 [SPEAKER_04]: I know, I just like, one of these fucking things and I'm just like, oh god, I just, to why do I spend the energy trying to figure this out and that part of me is just like, it's just dread. 01:24:28.717 --> 01:24:28.957 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:28.977 --> 01:24:29.077 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:29.097 --> 01:24:29.297 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:29.317 --> 01:24:29.438 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:29.458 --> 01:24:29.678 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:29.698 --> 01:24:29.798 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:29.818 --> 01:24:30.018 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:30.038 --> 01:24:30.138 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:30.158 --> 01:24:30.378 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:30.398 --> 01:24:30.538 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:30.558 --> 01:24:31.119 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:31.279 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:31.299 --> 01:24:31.619 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:31.679 --> 01:24:31.799 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:31.819 --> 01:24:32.060 [SPEAKER_04]: We did it. 01:24:32.080 --> 01:24:32.180 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:32.200 --> 01:24:32.300 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:32.320 --> 01:24:32.420 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:24:33.601 --> 01:24:33.901 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:33.921 --> 01:24:34.101 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:34.121 --> 01:24:34.361 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:34.381 --> 01:24:34.601 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:34.661 --> 01:24:34.782 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:34.822 --> 01:24:35.062 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:35.122 --> 01:24:35.242 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:35.262 --> 01:24:35.382 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:35.402 --> 01:24:35.502 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:35.562 --> 01:24:35.662 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:35.682 --> 01:24:35.822 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:35.842 --> 01:24:35.982 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:44.309 --> 01:24:49.871 [SPEAKER_05]: Some people are geniuses at it, you know, I'm certainly not ideal to do the most basic way possible, but it gets the job done, you know. 01:24:49.931 --> 01:24:52.431 [SPEAKER_04]: Our man Kyle Taylor uses this 3D printer. 01:24:52.451 --> 01:24:57.673 [SPEAKER_04]: He's making all sorts of great little tools and little things for makers and stuff like that. 01:24:57.713 --> 01:24:58.673 [SPEAKER_04]: He does great job. 01:24:59.133 --> 01:25:00.034 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's amazing. 01:25:00.054 --> 01:25:03.255 [SPEAKER_04]: I just, for some reason, it's just like I get a mental block on all that stuff. 01:25:03.955 --> 01:25:04.135 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 01:25:04.615 --> 01:25:04.875 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:25:07.236 --> 01:25:10.818 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, okay, you hang out with the Tomek guys here that they won't do it. 01:25:11.198 --> 01:25:34.468 [SPEAKER_04]: The Tomek guys came out here, they shipped everything to here and then they came up the Thursday before we had a great time Carl and Jack were awesome and they went up and they were sharpening everybody's knives, everybody was making knives with our man Adam, Uncle Sam Metalworks was running the grinders, the broadband grinders and then people were making their knives and then they were bringing it over and they were learning how to use the Tomek. 01:25:35.028 --> 01:25:46.193 [SPEAKER_04]: And the tourmic guys were teaching everybody how to use the tourmic, and if you can, too, you're going to tourmic.com, tourmic underscore sharp, it was a very, very easy user-friendly machine. 01:25:46.213 --> 01:25:48.454 [SPEAKER_04]: There, there, it's a great water-cooled system. 01:25:48.754 --> 01:25:50.255 [SPEAKER_04]: It was terrific to see those guys. 01:25:50.295 --> 01:25:52.416 [SPEAKER_04]: They were super awesome. 01:25:52.736 --> 01:25:55.737 [SPEAKER_04]: And tourmic.com, tourmic underscore sharpening. 01:25:57.238 --> 01:25:57.498 [UNKNOWN]: Nice. 01:25:57.898 --> 01:25:58.719 [SPEAKER_04]: Nice to see you, little. 01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:01.780 [SPEAKER_04]: What's going on in the world of TV and stuff like that? 01:26:03.450 --> 01:26:05.090 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, I'd be more just gonna go on. 01:26:05.110 --> 01:26:06.491 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:26:06.571 --> 01:26:16.753 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm slightly embarrassed, but I've been back on the peloton for about, like, let's say two months, and it's been great. 01:26:16.793 --> 01:26:19.613 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I just, it makes me feel better. 01:26:19.753 --> 01:26:24.694 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it makes me, it gets by morning started, but we cut loose the subscription service. 01:26:24.714 --> 01:26:27.695 [SPEAKER_03]: Cause like, turned into like 60 bucks a month, and these are gross. 01:26:28.195 --> 01:26:35.839 [SPEAKER_04]: What's even, you know, this is like the internet, I paid 60 bucks for this, I mean, it's just like, I mean, I don't need that motivation, I know I know where I need to be. 01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:39.020 [SPEAKER_04]: So we kind of loose sounds like I'm just going to watch TV or I do it. 01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:45.143 [SPEAKER_04]: And I couldn't find anything I wanted and there's this thing on Amazon and I don't know if you're a comic book person. 01:26:45.163 --> 01:26:48.384 [SPEAKER_04]: When I was younger, I was a huge in the comic books and there's this, this show on Amazon Prime. 01:26:48.404 --> 01:26:54.187 [SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, 01:26:54.367 --> 01:27:02.739 [SPEAKER_04]: The most creative and interesting and disgusting and fabulous animation series is called Invincible. 01:27:03.200 --> 01:27:05.003 [SPEAKER_04]: If you heard of Invincible, watch Invincible. 01:27:05.023 --> 01:27:06.264 [SPEAKER_04]: If you heard of it, Marco. 01:27:06.985 --> 01:27:07.666 [SPEAKER_04]: Goddamn it. 01:27:07.867 --> 01:27:10.050 [SPEAKER_04]: It is action packed and it's like 01:27:10.490 --> 01:27:12.511 [SPEAKER_04]: It's all original superheroes. 01:27:12.711 --> 01:27:35.300 [SPEAKER_04]: They're kind of based on all the other superheroes But it is the most exciting story and they're the voices are JK Simmons You know who he is Walter Goggins and all these people that you've heard of or you've seen you see their pictures And it is four seasons of insanity like if you like comic book stuff 01:27:36.200 --> 01:27:39.343 [SPEAKER_04]: This is unbelievable. 01:27:39.383 --> 01:27:43.887 [SPEAKER_04]: To the point where I thought I was on the second last season, turns out it was in the last season. 01:27:44.187 --> 01:27:45.969 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, now what am I going to watch? 01:27:46.029 --> 01:27:49.211 [SPEAKER_04]: I had a good, you know, four seasons of this goddamn thing. 01:27:49.852 --> 01:27:52.074 [SPEAKER_04]: And it was amazing. 01:27:52.534 --> 01:27:53.215 [SPEAKER_04]: Amazing. 01:27:53.836 --> 01:27:54.236 [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting. 01:27:54.616 --> 01:27:56.818 [SPEAKER_04]: Could it get past how good it was? 01:27:57.098 --> 01:27:58.039 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it good for kids? 01:27:58.339 --> 01:27:58.720 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 01:27:59.120 --> 01:27:59.520 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 01:27:59.761 --> 01:28:00.181 [SPEAKER_04]: No. 01:28:00.261 --> 01:28:00.782 [SPEAKER_04]: No. 01:28:00.902 --> 01:28:01.182 [SPEAKER_04]: No. 01:28:02.652 --> 01:28:06.195 [SPEAKER_04]: There's lots of guts, there's a ton of gore. 01:28:06.435 --> 01:28:06.855 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 01:28:06.975 --> 01:28:10.578 [SPEAKER_04]: There's no sex, there's a lot of cursing, but there is. 01:28:10.658 --> 01:28:11.178 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm out then. 01:28:11.278 --> 01:28:11.799 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm out then. 01:28:11.919 --> 01:28:13.080 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:28:13.120 --> 01:28:13.720 [SPEAKER_04]: You love that. 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:14.741 [SPEAKER_04]: You love it. 01:28:14.761 --> 01:28:16.022 [SPEAKER_04]: Give me some Craig Lockwood. 01:28:16.042 --> 01:28:27.370 [SPEAKER_04]: Give me some comic book sex, but it was like, it's super duper not for kids, but it is like the most interesting stories. 01:28:27.731 --> 01:28:29.292 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just great, really great. 01:28:29.692 --> 01:28:31.792 [SPEAKER_02]: Couldn't you ever watch the boys on prime? 01:28:32.273 --> 01:28:32.793 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna. 01:28:33.113 --> 01:28:40.154 [SPEAKER_04]: I watched the first season of that and that's gonna be that my next You know thing to do while I'm doing the pelter. 01:28:40.954 --> 01:28:45.055 [SPEAKER_02]: I've started watching a carry Which is based off the movie. 01:28:45.795 --> 01:28:46.615 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh the film. 01:28:46.695 --> 01:28:47.416 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 01:28:47.436 --> 01:28:53.417 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen it yet, but I've started watching this series on I think it's over on Netflix 01:28:54.888 --> 01:29:20.640 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really good and also fucking heartbreaking and it's interesting because the original Carry movie was set like it was what in the early 80s or something like that and yeah I think so yeah, yeah, and it's in that was rough enough as it was and now it's like Now it's set in our modern world with social media iPhones and like cyberbullying shit like that Which is like all stuff that's really happening right now 01:29:22.328 --> 01:29:35.492 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's, I think I'm on episode 6 of 8 or something like that, and it is rough, but it's good, but it's, I just feel so bad for the main character. 01:29:36.572 --> 01:29:38.372 [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting, because it's coming to a head. 01:29:39.273 --> 01:29:40.533 [SPEAKER_02]: The season's almost over. 01:29:42.389 --> 01:29:44.710 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just scary as well. 01:29:45.010 --> 01:29:47.511 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, it's not really scary. 01:29:47.551 --> 01:29:49.371 [SPEAKER_02]: Not like a horror film kind of scary. 01:29:50.252 --> 01:29:51.112 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 01:29:51.392 --> 01:30:05.417 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty, I guess like emotionally driven like, especially like I have a 10 year old kid and I can imagine if my kid was getting bullied the way these kid, like kids are treating each other in the show, I'm just like, ugh. 01:30:06.297 --> 01:30:08.138 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's where it like, it gets me a lot. 01:30:08.238 --> 01:30:08.458 [SPEAKER_02]: But, 01:30:09.372 --> 01:30:10.053 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's good. 01:30:10.373 --> 01:30:11.294 [SPEAKER_02]: I've really been liking it. 01:30:11.494 --> 01:30:15.858 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I've been watching East of Eden, which is is that good? 01:30:16.639 --> 01:30:17.119 [SPEAKER_02]: It's good. 01:30:17.780 --> 01:30:20.543 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm only a few episodes in. 01:30:21.483 --> 01:30:23.325 [SPEAKER_02]: I have like three different shows. 01:30:23.385 --> 01:30:25.007 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't even remember what the other one is right now. 01:30:25.888 --> 01:30:26.888 [SPEAKER_02]: But that one was good. 01:30:26.909 --> 01:30:28.150 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of nudity. 01:30:28.690 --> 01:30:29.991 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't got a headspace for that. 01:30:30.232 --> 01:30:31.233 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of nudity. 01:30:31.613 --> 01:30:32.774 [SPEAKER_04]: You got headspace for that. 01:30:32.814 --> 01:30:33.315 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you think? 01:30:35.022 --> 01:30:37.683 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, I mean, the headspace will wash you three different things at once. 01:30:37.863 --> 01:30:39.084 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I can't. 01:30:39.424 --> 01:30:40.204 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I just give up. 01:30:40.224 --> 01:30:42.065 [SPEAKER_02]: That's my ADHD superpower, baby. 01:30:42.105 --> 01:30:44.286 [SPEAKER_02]: I got like five books that I'm listening to. 01:30:44.306 --> 01:30:48.909 [SPEAKER_02]: And a three physical books that I'm reading from time to time. 01:30:48.949 --> 01:30:49.729 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow. 01:30:50.089 --> 01:30:50.629 [SPEAKER_02]: Chase. 01:30:51.290 --> 01:30:53.271 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, yeah, I'm struggling. 01:30:53.991 --> 01:30:56.152 [SPEAKER_04]: I think, what are you watching these days, Craig? 01:30:57.887 --> 01:31:10.375 [SPEAKER_05]: nothing I've been in the studio a week um no I'm not I know everybody's telling me you need to watch slow horses it's on that it's nice you don't watch it or all right let's go back you've seen any of it 01:31:11.661 --> 01:31:29.702 [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 01:31:30.541 --> 01:31:38.984 [SPEAKER_04]: I think everybody thinks she's all right because she's going to a lot of everyone thinks everyone does all these funny videos of people sticking all sorts of stuff in their mouths thinking like she's taking a run. 01:31:39.004 --> 01:31:40.924 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think she's great. 01:31:41.064 --> 01:31:45.566 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything does because the Yankees are out. 01:31:45.586 --> 01:31:47.206 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not I don't have baseball anymore. 01:31:47.246 --> 01:31:55.669 [SPEAKER_04]: So now we're waiting for the next starting this coming week and then we watch we're watching homeland you've seen homeland. 01:31:57.153 --> 01:31:57.974 [SPEAKER_04]: That's on Netflix. 01:31:57.994 --> 01:32:03.138 [SPEAKER_04]: That's about the CIA preventing war and Claire Dane's terrific. 01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:04.679 [SPEAKER_04]: So there you go. 01:32:04.699 --> 01:32:06.181 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I've seen previews for that one. 01:32:06.201 --> 01:32:06.701 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen it. 01:32:06.721 --> 01:32:07.482 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's great. 01:32:07.882 --> 01:32:15.629 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm also watching Mobland and also, I've only seen the first season of Slow Horses, slowly watching through. 01:32:15.669 --> 01:32:16.049 [SPEAKER_02]: What is it that? 01:32:16.069 --> 01:32:18.411 [SPEAKER_02]: There's like four seasons of it now. 01:32:19.092 --> 01:32:21.113 [SPEAKER_04]: I think there's six or seven. 01:32:21.274 --> 01:32:22.935 [SPEAKER_04]: Slow Horses is the best show on TV. 01:32:22.955 --> 01:32:23.776 [SPEAKER_04]: That'll love that show. 01:32:23.996 --> 01:32:24.837 [SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome. 01:32:25.550 --> 01:32:29.454 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, we did the first currently on like one-a-week kind of thing. 01:32:29.474 --> 01:32:31.677 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a currently on the season like one-a-week. 01:32:31.697 --> 01:32:34.440 [SPEAKER_04]: They all up except for the new season is one-a-week. 01:32:35.040 --> 01:32:36.422 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it's great. 01:32:36.802 --> 01:32:37.203 [SPEAKER_04]: It's great. 01:32:37.984 --> 01:32:39.085 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice to have that awesome. 01:32:39.445 --> 01:32:40.907 [SPEAKER_02]: It's 66 years old. 01:32:41.307 --> 01:32:42.809 [SPEAKER_02]: That's impressive. 01:32:43.410 --> 01:32:43.650 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:32:43.950 --> 01:32:45.091 [SPEAKER_02]: What did you just stand up? 01:32:45.892 --> 01:32:47.533 [SPEAKER_02]: What's that she can stand up? 01:32:48.713 --> 01:32:55.855 [SPEAKER_02]: No, she's beautiful, but it's uh, I don't understand what the thing is with people what's the problem with her? 01:32:55.995 --> 01:32:56.815 [SPEAKER_02]: People give her a hard time. 01:32:56.835 --> 01:33:04.157 [SPEAKER_04]: Just make fun of they make fun of the fact that they think that she's she when she takes a bite of something She's like shudding a whole spatula in her mouth. 01:33:04.197 --> 01:33:04.617 [SPEAKER_04]: She eats. 01:33:05.057 --> 01:33:07.358 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh I see like she's eating. 01:33:07.518 --> 01:33:11.859 [SPEAKER_05]: She didn't seem she clearly enjoys food and I think that's a good thing. 01:33:12.179 --> 01:33:12.420 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:33:12.500 --> 01:33:12.660 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:33:12.740 --> 01:33:13.700 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen the show 01:33:14.120 --> 01:33:14.620 [SPEAKER_05]: That's great. 01:33:15.081 --> 01:33:17.423 [SPEAKER_05]: My wife likes it, so... And everybody watching. 01:33:17.803 --> 01:33:20.945 [SPEAKER_05]: If everybody's you enjoy making knives, you need to head over, too. 01:33:22.183 --> 01:33:27.507 [SPEAKER_05]: Maritimeknifesupply.com, and to have a look at the stuff they've got, actually, I'm just on the website now. 01:33:27.567 --> 01:33:28.808 [SPEAKER_05]: They've got everything. 01:33:29.169 --> 01:33:32.512 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, abrasives, tools, even stuff to make tools. 01:33:32.572 --> 01:33:33.853 [SPEAKER_05]: They've got it all. 01:33:34.233 --> 01:33:35.114 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, go take a look. 01:33:35.174 --> 01:33:37.015 [SPEAKER_05]: Laurence is a good dude, so I know listen to the show. 01:33:37.376 --> 01:33:45.142 [SPEAKER_05]: Maritimeknifesupply.com, abrasive steel, telemetials, equipment tools, folder parts, everything you need. 01:33:45.382 --> 01:33:45.943 [SPEAKER_05]: Go take a look. 01:33:46.083 --> 01:33:48.144 [SPEAKER_05]: And you know Maritimeknife Supply, don't worry. 01:33:48.184 --> 01:33:50.827 [SPEAKER_04]: He's probably listening to this episode from isn't the South Pacific. 01:33:51.447 --> 01:33:53.088 [SPEAKER_04]: He's in like to hate, that's the idea. 01:33:53.128 --> 01:33:55.651 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's doing some snorkeling on that. 01:33:55.691 --> 01:33:57.893 [SPEAKER_05]: He's not listening that Yeah, he's listening. 01:33:57.953 --> 01:34:00.495 [SPEAKER_04]: He loves this goddamn show. 01:34:00.575 --> 01:34:03.738 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, he's listening to the South Pacific doing some scuba diving 01:34:05.133 --> 01:34:06.113 [SPEAKER_04]: That's how I shoot all time. 01:34:06.233 --> 01:34:16.316 [SPEAKER_04]: Should we have a done that if you have the feeling to that I've been to Tahiti, but I've not been to I've not been to I used to be patty certified PADI. 01:34:16.336 --> 01:34:18.697 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. 01:34:18.717 --> 01:34:19.998 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not snorkel scuba diving. 01:34:20.378 --> 01:34:20.698 [SPEAKER_02]: Really? 01:34:21.098 --> 01:34:27.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I had it for a couple years only when a couple times I wouldn't be mad at doing it again 01:34:29.207 --> 01:34:35.670 [SPEAKER_02]: But getting the certification here in the Northwest is crazy, especially in the summertime when I got it because there is massive algae blooms. 01:34:36.871 --> 01:34:50.157 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was only, I think the basic underwater dive it allows you to go to 60 feet, which I think is around 20 or 25 meters or something like that. 01:34:52.783 --> 01:34:58.668 [SPEAKER_02]: It was freaky because I got down there with my, it was, everybody was paired with an instructor. 01:34:58.688 --> 01:35:09.498 [SPEAKER_02]: I, like, were cruising around and I like, swam over, or, and whatever, overall, a log of some sort, and they're all this, there was a rat fish or something down in the water. 01:35:10.425 --> 01:35:34.293 [SPEAKER_02]: and I was looking at it and then I looked back up to keep following my instructor and he was fucking gone and all of a sudden I was like holy shit there are six stories of water on top of my head right now because I'm down at the bottom and I was like fuck and I started freaking out a little bit and luckily I caught just the slightest glimpse of his foot like his, he has 01:35:38.774 --> 01:35:41.815 [SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of like the 15-20 minutes that we were down there. 01:35:41.915 --> 01:35:44.256 [SPEAKER_02]: I was, I did not want that to happen again. 01:35:44.776 --> 01:35:54.119 [SPEAKER_02]: But I can imagine going to somewhere like Tahiti or getting certified like in the Caribbean or something like that, Hawaii is awesome because the visibility there is amazing. 01:35:54.799 --> 01:35:56.460 [SPEAKER_02]: But Washington is rough. 01:35:57.881 --> 01:35:59.202 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, and it's cold. 01:35:59.643 --> 01:36:09.451 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it would scare the light five to me, just being down there and seeing something and not being able to sort of breathe properly, you know, have to remain calm and stuff. 01:36:09.511 --> 01:36:13.274 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the problem is getting away fast enough if you need to. 01:36:13.714 --> 01:36:14.335 [SPEAKER_02]: You just can't. 01:36:14.835 --> 01:36:15.135 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:36:16.056 --> 01:36:16.516 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:36:16.596 --> 01:36:16.896 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:36:17.016 --> 01:36:17.436 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 01:36:17.736 --> 01:36:21.878 [SPEAKER_04]: I used to get a claustrophobic from snorkeling, so... That's really... 01:36:22.298 --> 01:36:22.998 [SPEAKER_02]: I fucking love it. 01:36:23.538 --> 01:36:23.738 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:36:24.759 --> 01:36:25.519 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean to all of it. 01:36:25.799 --> 01:36:27.160 [SPEAKER_02]: Snorkeling, scuba diving. 01:36:27.660 --> 01:36:28.620 [SPEAKER_02]: You could try snuba. 01:36:29.801 --> 01:36:30.381 [SPEAKER_02]: You heard of that? 01:36:30.801 --> 01:36:31.281 [SPEAKER_05]: Go ahead. 01:36:31.441 --> 01:36:32.922 [SPEAKER_05]: What's that? 01:36:33.042 --> 01:36:35.383 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a mix between scuba and snorkeling. 01:36:36.183 --> 01:36:54.211 [SPEAKER_02]: And so essentially you have an air tank, but rather than wearing it on your back, you have a hose that follows with you and you can go down a bit deeper, but it's very similar to like scuba diving in that, or sorry, snorkeling in that way where essentially you breathe like you would normally throw a snorkel. 01:36:54.991 --> 01:36:56.692 [SPEAKER_02]: But it allows you to go deeper in the water. 01:36:56.712 --> 01:36:57.453 [SPEAKER_02]: That's about it. 01:36:57.893 --> 01:36:58.554 [SPEAKER_04]: Snoopa. 01:36:59.014 --> 01:36:59.495 [SPEAKER_04]: Snoopa. 01:36:59.535 --> 01:37:02.697 [SPEAKER_04]: This fucking name or these names are terrible. 01:37:03.077 --> 01:37:03.517 [SPEAKER_05]: Madness. 01:37:04.855 --> 01:37:06.136 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, let's call it a day, shall we? 01:37:06.476 --> 01:37:07.157 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm snoober. 01:37:07.457 --> 01:37:08.378 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, snoober. 01:37:08.598 --> 01:37:10.659 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, snoober. 01:37:11.580 --> 01:37:12.541 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you all for listening. 01:37:13.041 --> 01:37:14.542 [SPEAKER_05]: We should speak to you again next week. 01:37:14.963 --> 01:37:16.244 [SPEAKER_05]: Any ideas for titles this week? 01:37:16.264 --> 01:37:24.510 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, snoober, snoober, snoober, snoober, snoober, stave, snoober, just snoober. 01:37:24.670 --> 01:37:25.951 [SPEAKER_05]: Snoober, don't do it, yeah. 01:37:26.932 --> 01:37:28.373 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, okay, yeah, thank you all for listening. 01:37:28.393 --> 01:37:29.794 [SPEAKER_05]: We should be back next week. 01:37:30.054 --> 01:37:30.854 [SPEAKER_05]: Bye for now.