WEBVTT 00:10.300 --> 00:19.162 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello and welcome to medium litter at the show we're too long time best friends try to sharpen up their media literacy skills by talking about a new movie in theaters each week. 00:19.662 --> 00:25.664 [SPEAKER_00]: My name is Monica Scott and my co-host is Emily Fay and today we're talking about a whale fall. 00:28.044 --> 00:31.725 [SPEAKER_00]: So spoilers from here on out that is your warning. 00:32.345 --> 00:39.147 [SPEAKER_00]: I get into a little bit of the 4DX experience in the beginning but then we go right into the full synopsis of the movie. 00:40.527 --> 00:56.036 [SPEAKER_00]: flashing red lights, spoiler warning, the guy goes in a whale, you don't you don't want to know what happens next, you know So that's that if you're listening to the audio of this you may want to check out our YouTube channel Where you can see full video episodes every single week. 00:56.496 --> 01:08.643 [SPEAKER_00]: Um Okay onto the show Okay 01:11.938 --> 01:28.674 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, it's time, it's time, it's Walefall, it's Walefall week, everything is week now, even though that actually makes less sense than ever, I'm addicted to calling things something week. 01:29.514 --> 01:29.855 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Wale. 01:30.055 --> 01:30.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:30.936 --> 01:35.220 [SPEAKER_00]: And also, Mommy week, maybe our worst performing episode ever, I think. 01:35.740 --> 01:36.781 [SPEAKER_01]: and you know why that is? 01:37.502 --> 01:38.903 [SPEAKER_01]: Because people don't respect mothers. 01:39.704 --> 01:46.510 [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly, they just, these movies needed to be clear that those work girl dad movies, you know, everyone would be all over at. 01:46.571 --> 01:51.836 [SPEAKER_01]: People don't respect mothers, and that is why nobody wanted to hear about mommy week. 01:53.377 --> 01:57.181 [SPEAKER_01]: And I actually think that that makes it extra important that we did that. 01:58.135 --> 01:58.876 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right. 01:59.016 --> 01:59.937 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes it. 02:00.677 --> 02:02.238 [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing important work here. 02:02.258 --> 02:06.502 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a medium-literate with Monday weekend. 02:06.542 --> 02:10.445 [SPEAKER_01]: We can only hope that the whale fall weak does better. 02:10.705 --> 02:12.687 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it will because it's about boys. 02:13.708 --> 02:14.108 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 02:15.329 --> 02:24.097 [SPEAKER_00]: I am sort of wondering if anybody else saw this movie because it is, of course, coming out in the shadow of the Nathan Fielder movie, which we will talk about in a few days. 02:24.197 --> 02:24.397 [SPEAKER_00]: But, 02:27.492 --> 02:29.313 [SPEAKER_00]: not found anyone talking about this. 02:29.493 --> 02:39.376 [SPEAKER_01]: I've actually been really thinking about how Nathan Fielder's coolest trick he's ever played has been on Whalefall. 02:40.996 --> 02:46.998 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I genuinely like I was wonder I was like I'm sure there's some logistical reason but I was like 02:48.160 --> 02:51.201 [SPEAKER_01]: because this movie was announced so late, right? 02:51.281 --> 02:53.242 [SPEAKER_01]: It was such a late addition to the schedule. 02:53.542 --> 02:54.623 [SPEAKER_01]: Why this week? 02:54.743 --> 03:04.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Why this week with there's already so many things coming out that we're all kind of, it was like, I don't know, maybe Street Fighter was gonna be the biggest popular, whatever. 03:05.028 --> 03:07.269 [SPEAKER_01]: Whalefall was probably gonna do pretty well. 03:07.509 --> 03:09.370 [SPEAKER_01]: Then there's like something says the melody, there's a, 03:10.210 --> 03:18.676 [SPEAKER_01]: but then it's just like drop this in the middle of it so that it's just like blows everything into a little corner to gather dust. 03:19.537 --> 03:24.781 [SPEAKER_01]: It's, I feel bad for all these movies that we're like, look, this is great. 03:25.061 --> 03:26.642 [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to work out great. 03:27.763 --> 03:34.648 [SPEAKER_00]: Nope, yeah, they didn't know that they were going up against the maybe only 03:36.158 --> 03:39.500 [SPEAKER_00]: the only documentary that's ever going to be nominated for Best Picture. 03:43.302 --> 03:43.882 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't know. 03:43.902 --> 03:45.143 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't know what they were looking at. 03:45.163 --> 03:46.704 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for them. 03:46.724 --> 03:51.947 [SPEAKER_00]: But hey, I saw Will fall right as soon as I could. 03:51.967 --> 03:54.648 [SPEAKER_01]: Me too and my theater was full. 03:55.229 --> 03:56.169 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, me too. 03:56.269 --> 03:58.710 [SPEAKER_01]: But people were not being so kind after. 03:58.730 --> 04:00.612 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh really? 04:00.652 --> 04:01.192 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:04.342 --> 04:04.602 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 04:04.622 --> 04:05.903 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get into that. 04:07.124 --> 04:15.588 [SPEAKER_00]: People were absolutely buzzing after mine, but I believe that's because I saw mine in 40X. 04:18.830 --> 04:24.893 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is like strapping into a theme park ride for two hours. 04:25.414 --> 04:25.754 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 04:25.834 --> 04:30.416 [SPEAKER_01]: So I can't wait to hear about it because I purposely didn't want to hear about it till 04:31.897 --> 04:39.264 [SPEAKER_01]: But while I was watching it, I was like, damn, I bet this was the perfect 40X movie, I bet it was amazing. 04:40.084 --> 04:43.207 [SPEAKER_00]: It's my first and only 40X movie, like I don't know if I'll do it. 04:43.227 --> 04:48.071 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I liked it a lot at 40X. 04:49.212 --> 04:49.953 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say. 04:52.498 --> 04:57.380 [SPEAKER_00]: I, it was the most distracting movie going experience I've ever had. 04:57.580 --> 05:02.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was a ton of stuff that this movie doesn't have like, it's not like people talking in rooms. 05:03.043 --> 05:13.127 [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess I didn't miss dialogue, but you are so giddy while you're being jossled and having water shot at your face. 05:15.869 --> 05:20.673 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, and like, I mean, they do a lot more than I realize. 05:20.754 --> 05:21.514 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew the water. 05:21.754 --> 05:30.942 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew the shoot water and knew that they do like puffs of some kind of fog and I knew the seats moved. 05:31.463 --> 05:32.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Are there smells? 05:34.025 --> 05:36.187 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't smell a single smell at the time. 05:36.407 --> 05:37.528 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there are smells. 05:37.548 --> 05:38.449 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I made that up. 05:39.312 --> 05:45.226 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have heard that there are smells because a lot of people said during the Odyssey, which I think the Odyssey 05:46.544 --> 05:52.289 [SPEAKER_00]: Among all the other things it did really put 40x on the map for people, because I had never considered. 05:52.949 --> 05:58.134 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that maybe an LA or like in circles that are like quite tapped into like movie stuff. 05:59.294 --> 06:06.600 [SPEAKER_00]: I had heard people talk about 40x, but I had never once considered even figuring out where a 40x theater was. 06:06.680 --> 06:08.302 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, until the Odyssey. 06:08.842 --> 06:15.247 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm just like the idea of paying for a movie is so unpleasant now. 06:16.748 --> 06:22.192 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, past my $30, um, sure. 06:22.292 --> 06:22.972 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I do it. 06:23.052 --> 06:28.155 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I do it a fair amount because my AMCs don't really show Indies too much. 06:28.255 --> 06:28.635 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 06:29.176 --> 06:31.357 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, which is just sort of a curse of the suburbs. 06:32.097 --> 06:35.579 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but like, I have a landmark theater that will. 06:35.599 --> 06:39.762 [SPEAKER_00]: So I, I, I have already made my piece with doing that sometimes. 06:39.822 --> 06:40.902 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say it was expensive. 06:40.922 --> 06:41.302 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like 20, 06:42.383 --> 06:44.765 [SPEAKER_00]: dollars or something 25 dollars is really expensive. 06:45.426 --> 06:51.491 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean that's less than just like Dolby it and I am see if you were like paying for Dolby ticket. 06:52.151 --> 06:52.832 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 06:52.852 --> 06:55.494 [SPEAKER_00]: That's okay. 06:55.554 --> 06:56.855 [SPEAKER_01]: That's less than I would have thought. 06:57.996 --> 07:00.898 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to I have to tell you something about these period. 07:01.078 --> 07:01.519 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 07:03.500 --> 07:07.223 [SPEAKER_00]: First for podcast purposes 07:08.725 --> 07:12.048 [SPEAKER_00]: Start screen recording on your phone, and I'm about to send you something. 07:12.068 --> 07:17.213 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, boy, okay, okay, I am. 07:17.233 --> 07:18.494 [SPEAKER_00]: I am screen recording. 07:19.054 --> 07:25.740 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I've sent you something important. 07:31.566 --> 07:32.847 [SPEAKER_00]: Monica got the bucket. 07:37.445 --> 07:40.970 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here's what I I didn't know about my fort first of all. 07:41.070 --> 07:56.148 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard as fuck to open It's I got the whale I got the whale popcorn bucket and here's why I had no idea that the ticket I bought included one 07:57.447 --> 08:01.570 [SPEAKER_00]: So I texted you from the theater and he said this is crazy. 08:01.590 --> 08:15.461 [SPEAKER_00]: We're like the only people here who didn't buy the bucket But I wasn't seeing the bucket anywhere for sale, and I was like, that's so weird people really went crazy for this But and I was like, yeah, makes sense and then we got to our seats. 08:15.541 --> 08:16.342 [SPEAKER_00]: We're like, oh 08:18.284 --> 08:18.905 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't lie. 08:19.426 --> 08:22.651 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't lie people are going crazy for the bucket because we all got the bucket. 08:22.791 --> 08:24.213 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god! 08:24.233 --> 08:29.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, so this kind of sounds like the deal of a lifetime. 08:31.542 --> 08:33.283 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, so it was like a fan event. 08:33.323 --> 08:35.084 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, I think that's what it was. 08:35.104 --> 08:38.126 [SPEAKER_00]: It was early access fan events. 08:38.146 --> 08:39.726 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, look at his little eye. 08:41.247 --> 08:42.388 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still screaming, recording. 08:42.408 --> 08:43.969 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm zooming in on his eye. 08:43.989 --> 08:48.671 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, you'll have to send me the screen recording. 08:48.711 --> 08:51.212 [SPEAKER_00]: So I can, here I'll send you the other two pictures. 08:51.272 --> 08:52.913 [SPEAKER_00]: I took so that you can have them. 08:52.973 --> 08:58.596 [SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted the listener, or I guess the YouTube watcher only, sorry to the audio listeners. 09:00.117 --> 09:01.318 [SPEAKER_00]: to experience it with us. 09:01.618 --> 09:02.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God. 09:03.379 --> 09:03.839 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 09:03.999 --> 09:06.560 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that you did a whole little photo shoot. 09:07.100 --> 09:08.461 [SPEAKER_00]: In my backyard with the whale. 09:08.561 --> 09:09.321 [SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful. 09:09.441 --> 09:12.122 [SPEAKER_00]: I assume Alex was the photographer. 09:12.583 --> 09:12.803 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 09:13.463 --> 09:14.083 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I can't. 09:14.624 --> 09:15.084 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't. 09:15.284 --> 09:17.305 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't be free like that in front of people. 09:17.365 --> 09:18.085 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? 09:18.105 --> 09:18.405 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 09:18.425 --> 09:19.886 [SPEAKER_01]: This what what's a cold again? 09:20.106 --> 09:20.586 [SPEAKER_01]: I have it too. 09:20.626 --> 09:21.226 [SPEAKER_01]: Lens buddy. 09:21.407 --> 09:22.087 [SPEAKER_01]: Lens buddy. 09:23.047 --> 09:24.608 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, wonderful. 09:24.788 --> 09:30.333 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when someone's taking a photo of me, I just sort of stand like the Lorax. 09:30.413 --> 09:33.475 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why. 09:34.036 --> 09:40.080 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't, I can't hit any other posts, but like, arms down belly out. 09:42.656 --> 09:47.317 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I can't believe it, but I have two whale popcorn buckets in my house, right? 09:47.457 --> 09:48.198 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow! 09:48.298 --> 09:49.778 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you gonna do with them? 09:50.318 --> 09:51.858 [SPEAKER_01]: I genuinely have no idea. 09:52.019 --> 09:58.960 [SPEAKER_01]: So this was a 20-something-dollar ticket for 4DX that included the popcorn bucket, which is probably like $35. 09:59.160 --> 10:04.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I, again, never track these popcorn buckets that closely. 10:05.302 --> 10:07.343 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really more of your culture than mine culture. 10:09.083 --> 10:10.684 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just an observer. 10:10.984 --> 10:11.905 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't buy the popcorn. 10:11.925 --> 10:14.967 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's the way it's the same way in which I am a Disney adult. 10:15.147 --> 10:17.668 [SPEAKER_01]: I am just an observer of the culture. 10:17.688 --> 10:21.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I had seen we were in line. 10:21.431 --> 10:24.292 [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, also, I will say we never go to a regal. 10:24.452 --> 10:26.754 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't I don't think I've been to a regal in like, 10:28.148 --> 10:29.309 [SPEAKER_00]: eight years or something. 10:30.390 --> 10:32.771 [SPEAKER_00]: There was no none in New Orleans. 10:32.912 --> 10:38.055 [SPEAKER_00]: There are none near us, but there's one in the city that has a 40X screen. 10:39.016 --> 10:41.338 [SPEAKER_00]: So, so that was the one we went to. 10:41.698 --> 10:44.800 [SPEAKER_00]: So we were just kind of getting all over the place being at the regal. 10:45.741 --> 10:48.323 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, and we were in the line was really long. 10:48.343 --> 10:51.966 [SPEAKER_00]: And we were like in the line with all the whale holding popcorn bucket people. 10:51.986 --> 10:54.468 [SPEAKER_00]: And we were like looking at all the popcorn buckets and it was just, 10:55.208 --> 10:56.989 [SPEAKER_00]: it was a whole experience. 10:58.230 --> 11:03.592 [SPEAKER_00]: And the energy going into a 40 x screening was electric. 11:03.712 --> 11:10.396 [SPEAKER_00]: And I asked the guy next to me, because he said, we were trying to figure out something before the movie started. 11:10.436 --> 11:15.539 [SPEAKER_00]: You could see these little like holes to rose ahead of us. 11:15.579 --> 11:16.099 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, 11:16.619 --> 11:31.854 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, are those going to shoot water up on this and he turned to me and he was like wait I was asking the same question and the answer was yes, they were going to shoot water Wow, um, they also drip water from the ceiling. 11:31.974 --> 11:32.554 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god 11:33.838 --> 12:01.445 [SPEAKER_00]: There's also huge fans, so the first 40 X thing that happens in whale fall is like you're getting these sort of like drone shot like sweeping views of Monterey Bay coastline and You start to sway with the like sweeping shots back and forth and then like fans just start blasting 12:03.855 --> 12:04.816 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it cold? 12:06.257 --> 12:13.444 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just the air from the room and it doesn't stay on the whole time, but it's like, you're supposed to feel like you're at the beach. 12:13.524 --> 12:19.329 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like windy and you're swaying and then the other. 12:22.191 --> 12:39.449 [SPEAKER_00]: only other important 40X thing I was going to talk about was that um the first real experience of 40X where you like really get into it is the scene where Austin Abrams is entering the water and he's kind of getting thrashed by it. 12:39.469 --> 12:42.372 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a little bit and that felt like 12:43.513 --> 12:57.136 [SPEAKER_00]: They program in everything 40X can do so it's like they like for like four minutes or however long this Sequences They're shaking you they're like jolting you forward. 12:57.476 --> 13:11.880 [SPEAKER_00]: There's things that hit your legs the back of your legs There's there's there's spout there's like air spouts behind you that will shoot air from behind you And there's also things that will press into your back 13:13.632 --> 13:15.954 [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't even really make sense for that. 13:18.296 --> 13:20.078 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like all that stuff is happening. 13:20.158 --> 13:24.543 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, if there was like lightning or something, some big crack that would happen at any point. 13:24.583 --> 13:26.905 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that happened during this sequence, but they had like, 13:28.950 --> 13:49.658 [SPEAKER_00]: blazing white lights that would like almost like photography flashes that would flash really quick and it just was a very intense experience you find yourself like covering your soda and like yeah I've always thought about like can you really have snacks during a 4DX 13:50.518 --> 13:55.786 [SPEAKER_00]: I had snacks and I brought a can of liqueur from home and it survived fine. 13:55.806 --> 13:58.029 [SPEAKER_00]: The couple are seem deeper than usual. 13:58.049 --> 13:58.991 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 13:59.011 --> 14:03.978 [SPEAKER_00]: And the seat, I will say Alex was like two tall for it, which always happens to him on everything. 14:04.018 --> 14:04.339 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, 14:05.640 --> 14:17.303 [SPEAKER_00]: You're supposed to have your feet up on this little thing so that when it's moving around, you're not like, but he couldn't quite do that, like he kind of would either hunch all the way forward or be slouched weirdly. 14:17.883 --> 14:20.764 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was a little challenging for him to really get into it. 14:20.784 --> 14:25.885 [SPEAKER_00]: But for me, I'm the right size for it, so I fit perfectly and it was, 14:27.216 --> 14:27.616 [SPEAKER_00]: chaos. 14:27.656 --> 14:29.096 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a really chaotic experience. 14:29.156 --> 14:30.637 [SPEAKER_00]: That is my review of the 40X. 14:30.857 --> 14:35.758 [SPEAKER_00]: And like also you kind of like lose track of a lot of stuff that's going on in the movie. 14:36.558 --> 14:40.319 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is my main complaint. 14:40.359 --> 14:46.400 [SPEAKER_01]: Like were they like shaking you around every time he's getting shaken around in the whale stomach? 14:48.381 --> 14:53.202 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if it was, if it was like a big moment where he's getting like, 14:54.285 --> 15:08.287 [SPEAKER_00]: moved around meaningfully then yes the seats would move but actually what they deployed more is like the little things that will hit you like in the back and it like shoot air at your head like just stuff to kind of like 15:09.825 --> 15:11.846 [SPEAKER_00]: make you feel like you're being affected. 15:11.866 --> 15:14.428 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, they shot so much water at us. 15:15.429 --> 15:16.870 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God, that's so funny. 15:17.010 --> 15:19.731 [SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't shoot from your seat. 15:19.831 --> 15:22.633 [SPEAKER_01]: It shoots everyone from the same holes. 15:24.474 --> 15:27.957 [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of, so it, so we were like, 15:28.977 --> 15:30.357 [SPEAKER_00]: They're in two rows, right? 15:30.617 --> 15:35.158 [SPEAKER_00]: The 40X seats are grouped in rows of two. 15:35.239 --> 15:38.779 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's essentially like little quadrants around the room. 15:38.879 --> 15:42.240 [SPEAKER_00]: And all those little groupings will move together. 15:43.560 --> 15:50.882 [SPEAKER_00]: Essentially, what ends of happening is that we were on the second row. 15:50.902 --> 15:54.623 [SPEAKER_00]: So on the back of every seat in front of us, we could see little holes. 15:55.877 --> 15:59.241 [SPEAKER_00]: And those were where the water splashes were coming from. 15:59.601 --> 16:01.683 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was like some for every person. 16:04.306 --> 16:06.068 [SPEAKER_01]: See, I would be worried if I had snacks. 16:06.128 --> 16:09.432 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be worried about the mystery water like getting on my popcorn. 16:10.753 --> 16:14.818 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say that it doesn't, but it wasn't like, 16:17.258 --> 16:21.181 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't so much water that it felt like that was a problem. 16:21.422 --> 16:23.203 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? 16:23.223 --> 16:27.847 [SPEAKER_00]: And you have a different set of circumstances with your feelings around stuff like that. 16:27.907 --> 16:35.554 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm pretty loosey, greasy, but it was like, I'd get five little drops on my face. 16:35.814 --> 16:37.495 [SPEAKER_00]: It just was like, it happened frequently. 16:37.835 --> 16:41.699 [SPEAKER_00]: And then occasionally, when it happened from the ceiling, that I can't explain. 16:41.999 --> 16:44.301 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also couldn't figure out where it was coming from the ceiling. 16:44.361 --> 16:44.982 [SPEAKER_01]: I really looked. 16:46.062 --> 16:51.245 [SPEAKER_01]: What did they do when he almost gets out of the whale's mouth and then falls back in? 16:52.966 --> 17:03.372 [SPEAKER_00]: You get jossled when he lands, you know, you're kind of you're you're like You're like moving the whole time so like 17:05.392 --> 17:19.016 [SPEAKER_00]: As he's in the little tongue thing, it's vibrating when the whale makes a sound, and then you get poked in the back when it seems like the whale kind of like tenses its tongue maybe in that scene. 17:23.623 --> 17:24.485 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's it. 17:24.585 --> 17:26.047 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're getting hit with missed. 17:26.108 --> 17:33.260 [SPEAKER_00]: I think a little bit in that scene because he's like out in the like facing the ocean where it's splashy. 17:33.360 --> 17:37.067 [SPEAKER_00]: So would you say you loved your 40X experience? 17:38.362 --> 17:39.403 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I really did. 17:39.463 --> 17:45.386 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, it's like you kind of fucks up a movie for you, right? 17:46.347 --> 17:49.228 [SPEAKER_01]: So it felt like it would be like perfect for a second viewing. 17:50.129 --> 17:56.853 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, yeah, because we walked out of this and I was like, I would see it again because I think I missed stuff. 17:57.553 --> 17:59.714 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of, I don't do it. 18:00.575 --> 18:01.475 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you should try it. 18:01.775 --> 18:03.296 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, it sounds fun. 18:03.696 --> 18:04.457 [SPEAKER_00]: For journalism. 18:04.717 --> 18:05.778 [SPEAKER_00]: For journalism. 18:06.760 --> 18:16.329 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sounds like good, because I know I was thinking about your experience when I was seeing it, I was like, this seems like it would be a really good 40X movie. 18:16.429 --> 18:26.358 [SPEAKER_01]: I can picture exactly how it would work, you know, which is opposite, like, verity where I was like, I can't imagine how that would work. 18:27.019 --> 18:28.120 [SPEAKER_00]: No, not at all. 18:30.047 --> 18:31.107 [SPEAKER_00]: No, not at all. 18:31.287 --> 18:33.148 [SPEAKER_00]: What do they do during the tooth biting? 18:33.168 --> 18:35.008 [SPEAKER_00]: The tooth in the headboard scene. 18:35.028 --> 18:36.268 [SPEAKER_00]: A verity, I wonder. 18:36.428 --> 18:38.149 [SPEAKER_00]: I just wonder. 18:38.249 --> 18:38.929 [SPEAKER_00]: They bite you. 18:39.369 --> 18:41.069 [SPEAKER_01]: They bite you, they bite you. 18:41.509 --> 18:42.490 [SPEAKER_01]: You were the headboard. 18:42.630 --> 18:45.250 [SPEAKER_01]: Someone comes around and bites everyone. 18:45.350 --> 18:49.991 [SPEAKER_00]: One by one. 18:51.431 --> 18:52.492 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay. 18:52.852 --> 18:55.112 [SPEAKER_00]: Now we should get into wailful for real. 18:55.232 --> 18:55.932 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah. 18:56.372 --> 18:57.053 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay. 18:57.373 --> 18:58.473 [SPEAKER_01]: Should we give our synopsis? 18:59.146 --> 19:00.487 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you want to go first? 19:00.747 --> 19:00.987 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 19:01.588 --> 19:01.908 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 19:02.088 --> 19:02.288 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 19:02.629 --> 19:02.829 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 19:04.110 --> 19:07.632 [SPEAKER_01]: Austin Ebrum's is Jay, a young man. 19:07.972 --> 19:13.256 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe in college, the diver, you may know him better as the diver from the popcorn bucket. 19:14.457 --> 19:16.879 [SPEAKER_01]: And he is back home. 19:16.959 --> 19:19.100 [SPEAKER_01]: His dad died a year ago. 19:19.641 --> 19:24.664 [SPEAKER_01]: His sort of like cool, like locally beloved like, 19:25.545 --> 19:35.555 [SPEAKER_01]: tatted off like ocean dad and him and his dad had a complicated relationship but he's home and his dad had 19:37.354 --> 19:45.318 [SPEAKER_01]: Mesothelioma, and decided to go out on his terms by jumping into the ocean with a weighted belt. 19:45.899 --> 19:47.800 [SPEAKER_01]: And so they don't have his body. 19:48.400 --> 19:52.722 [SPEAKER_01]: And so Austin Abrams goes out early morning. 19:52.782 --> 19:54.843 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm going to go get his remains. 19:55.864 --> 20:00.426 [SPEAKER_01]: But instead he gets eaten by a whale, a big sperm whale. 20:01.047 --> 20:01.367 [SPEAKER_01]: He gets 20:04.900 --> 20:26.607 [SPEAKER_01]: with along with a squid so then first things first in the whale stomach he has to fight the squid and then a bunch of other things happen in the stomach he tries to get out through the through the bowels but there's like stomach acid so he can't do that because it's burning him and 20:28.155 --> 20:29.976 [SPEAKER_01]: And so he's like, how am I going to get out of here? 20:29.996 --> 20:31.976 [SPEAKER_01]: He only has like an hour of oxygen. 20:31.996 --> 20:39.338 [SPEAKER_01]: And this whole time, it's like, in our cut with like memories of his like complicated relationship with his dad. 20:41.939 --> 20:48.121 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the whale goes really deep into the sea. 20:48.780 --> 20:50.800 [SPEAKER_01]: and then it gets attacked by Orcas. 20:51.701 --> 20:59.422 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the whale and his dad are like one, like he's like speaking to his dad, but also his dad is the whale. 21:00.182 --> 21:09.684 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the sperm whale, he's inside of calls for help from other whales, and then they end up at the surface again, and the whale is dying. 21:10.064 --> 21:16.126 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he remembers something his dad told him, and he realizes he can make an explosion occur, 21:17.406 --> 21:26.909 [SPEAKER_01]: the steel wool pads that he found in the, he found a bag of in the whale stomach earlier, litter, litter bugs. 21:27.789 --> 21:29.650 [SPEAKER_01]: I have litter bugs to think for that. 21:30.350 --> 21:35.532 [SPEAKER_01]: And he put batteries in his pack to weigh him down more earlier. 21:36.292 --> 21:38.893 [SPEAKER_01]: And he has the oxygen. 21:38.953 --> 21:42.494 [SPEAKER_01]: So then he like blows a hole through the side of the 21:47.454 --> 21:51.376 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's that we get out of the way. 21:52.777 --> 21:54.838 [SPEAKER_01]: And he feels like he understands his dad better. 21:57.239 --> 21:58.059 [SPEAKER_00]: And so do I. 22:00.501 --> 22:00.981 [SPEAKER_00]: That was good. 22:01.021 --> 22:02.502 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is everything that happened. 22:03.602 --> 22:05.663 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here I go. 22:08.705 --> 22:10.586 [SPEAKER_00]: I practiced this, by the way, three times. 22:11.246 --> 22:13.407 [SPEAKER_00]: Three times. 22:13.427 --> 22:14.427 [SPEAKER_01]: To your whale bucket. 22:18.722 --> 22:29.068 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well-fall follows Jay, a college student who returns to his hometown of Monterey, California after the death of his beloved salty sea dog father, Mitt. 22:29.829 --> 22:35.952 [SPEAKER_00]: Jay and Mitt had a contentious relationship leading to up-to-mitt's death, which makes the trip home especially loaded. 22:35.972 --> 22:42.336 [SPEAKER_00]: The rather than undergo cancer treatment, Mitt chose to end his life by jumping into the ocean with weights tied to his body. 22:42.736 --> 22:46.058 [SPEAKER_00]: His family resents the decision in part because it left them without a body to mourn. 22:47.455 --> 22:53.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Jade decides that he is going to use the scuba diving skills his father taught him to search from its body himself. 22:53.636 --> 22:58.738 [SPEAKER_00]: While he's underwater, a sperm whale lunges first squid and accidentally swallows Jay along with it. 22:59.318 --> 23:01.798 [SPEAKER_00]: Once inside the whale, a clock starts ticking. 23:01.838 --> 23:08.020 [SPEAKER_00]: Jay has roughly 60 minutes of oxygen left and has to figure out how to escape the stomach of the whale before he suffocates. 23:08.980 --> 23:12.641 [SPEAKER_00]: As Jay struggles to survive, we flashbacks in memories of his difficult relationship 23:17.722 --> 23:23.027 [SPEAKER_00]: J's injuries begin to pile up and his oxygen continues to dwindle as starts to feel a bond with the whale. 23:23.728 --> 23:28.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, in the ocean, the whale is attacked by a pot of orcas and is gravely injured. 23:28.893 --> 23:36.980 [SPEAKER_00]: As the whale's family comes to its rescue, when tries to bring it back toward the surface, J, now running out of time begins to surrender to the possibility of death. 23:37.781 --> 23:42.385 [SPEAKER_00]: He imagines conversations with his father in which the two are finally able to understand one another. 23:43.226 --> 23:52.392 [SPEAKER_00]: But remembering Mits' advice gives Jay one last idea, using a battery and still wool, he ignites the remaining oxygen in his tank and blows his way out of the already dying whale. 23:53.733 --> 23:59.637 [SPEAKER_00]: Jay reaches the surface, badly injured, but alive, and finally finds some sense of closure with his father. 23:59.657 --> 24:03.580 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's whale fall baby. 24:12.726 --> 24:24.934 [SPEAKER_01]: When you first see the premise and the poster, you're like, oh, this is one of those like fake movies that sometimes you open the AMC app and see and you're like, what the fuck is this? 24:25.414 --> 24:31.898 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it looks like a shark NATO equivalent, like one of those like really shitty B movies. 24:32.378 --> 24:39.183 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's like the first thought, and then, as it got closer to coming out, you're like, sorry, wait, who's in this? 24:40.409 --> 24:55.349 [SPEAKER_01]: like oh okay I misunderstood what what this is and then you realize not only is it a real movie but it has big stars and is like a very earnest drama. 24:56.474 --> 25:02.780 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's like a really beloved book that I also like, I'm reading his other book right now. 25:02.800 --> 25:05.102 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's another book. 25:05.882 --> 25:11.247 [SPEAKER_00]: It's called Angel Down and it won the Pulitzer last year, which is why I started trying to roll. 25:13.649 --> 25:17.311 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's very hard to read because it has a weird structure. 25:20.172 --> 25:21.873 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not that far into it. 25:23.014 --> 25:39.744 [SPEAKER_00]: The premise of Angel Down is like, it's World War One, and soldiers are sent to find a soldier somewhere, and they find an angel has been knocked out of the sky by artillery, and they have to help the angel get back. 25:40.504 --> 25:46.090 [SPEAKER_01]: So his books always have a real concept, a real premise. 25:46.110 --> 25:50.795 [SPEAKER_00]: This guy loves a premise, a real premise, and it's really horrific. 25:51.155 --> 25:54.679 [SPEAKER_00]: The book is also like, it's known for being like really graphic and upsetting. 25:55.379 --> 25:59.103 [SPEAKER_00]: The weird structure for Angel Down is that it's written in one sentence. 26:00.313 --> 26:18.160 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so, it's a little, it's hard for my brain to get used to, but it is good, but, but I've never read whalefall, but I know that's also like a beloved book, and all of the interviews I could find with the director pretty much always had the writer with him, too. 26:20.114 --> 26:21.035 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. 26:21.475 --> 26:23.916 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a big father's and sons book, obviously. 26:23.956 --> 26:25.578 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a big time. 26:26.458 --> 26:27.859 [SPEAKER_00]: Big time, this is in sons. 26:27.979 --> 26:34.543 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay boy dad week No, I was really thinking a lot during the movie. 26:34.563 --> 26:35.964 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like kind of so glad. 26:36.004 --> 26:38.426 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like a boy with a mean dad. 26:38.646 --> 26:39.867 [SPEAKER_01]: That seems horrible 26:41.522 --> 26:44.925 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it just like, I don't know. 26:45.605 --> 26:47.587 [SPEAKER_00]: I really, I liked this movie a lot. 26:47.627 --> 26:56.614 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I, you know, yeah, now that we're like getting into the movie, I cried a lot during the Whale Orca stuff. 26:57.334 --> 27:00.837 [SPEAKER_00]: That did look so beautiful. 27:01.297 --> 27:03.259 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like look beautiful. 27:03.359 --> 27:04.920 [SPEAKER_01]: Whales are beautiful. 27:05.020 --> 27:06.821 [SPEAKER_00]: They're beautiful creatures. 27:07.942 --> 27:17.549 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why, but I can feel particularly emotional about the ocean and I don't I've never spent any energy trying to like understand that about myself. 27:17.669 --> 27:18.990 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just something I know. 27:19.610 --> 27:22.773 [SPEAKER_00]: So I also feel very... 27:23.073 --> 27:25.375 [SPEAKER_00]: This may be a lot of my stuff. 27:26.475 --> 27:33.939 [SPEAKER_00]: outside of the father's stuff which is not mine but like I'm incredibly claustrophobic. 27:35.700 --> 27:43.285 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very afraid of marine life like and I'm very afraid of like the the bottom of the ocean. 27:43.845 --> 27:45.286 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, same. 27:45.446 --> 27:49.268 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say I have like a very healthy fear of of the sea. 27:49.986 --> 28:09.128 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I respect it, I just keep my distance and you know, it's whenever it's like, you know, like the ocean is like really scary there's so much going on in there it goes too far down and we don't know what's going on down there and it just seems like really lonely and cold. 28:10.682 --> 28:14.525 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's very, I find the images really haunting. 28:16.786 --> 28:34.317 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, listen, we're recording this at night, so I'm just like spilling all this stuff about myself sometimes, I don't do this so much anymore because I'm not like scrolling right before I go to sleep, but sometimes when I would catch myself in bed, scrolling for too many hours, 28:35.398 --> 28:37.779 [SPEAKER_00]: Because, you know, you can let like three hours. 28:37.939 --> 28:38.159 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 28:38.179 --> 28:38.840 [SPEAKER_00]: Just doing that. 28:39.600 --> 28:40.940 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what it's built for. 28:41.861 --> 28:52.105 [SPEAKER_00]: And I would do this thing where if I started to feel like I wasn't feeling anything for too long, I'd look up footage of shipwrecks. 28:55.997 --> 29:19.843 [SPEAKER_00]: Like like when they send a little like thing down there, either one either if they either a little Rover down there looking at a shipwreck with like overgrown stuff or like boats sinking Wow, okay I And it just like makes me feel upset I think but for some reason it just like I think I 29:21.540 --> 29:21.980 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 29:22.200 --> 29:31.465 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just when I feel that like, this is why I took all the shit off my phone because like I would just do it for so long that I would be like, I haven't felt anything in three hours. 29:31.545 --> 29:32.426 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel crazy. 29:32.886 --> 29:42.591 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just would try to trigger some feeling and just make you feel sad or does it make you feel like in awe or does it make you feel scared? 29:42.751 --> 29:43.792 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's all of them. 29:44.923 --> 29:54.566 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I felt that also about the whale's, the whale's stuff in this, but what I was in say is this belongs in the 40X portion, but we hadn't really talked about the details. 29:55.666 --> 30:07.670 [SPEAKER_00]: I cried so much during the Orca stuff with the whale goes back up and just, yeah, it's so beautiful and like ethereal and haunting and sad. 30:07.730 --> 30:10.311 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like sad the way Orca's are so violent. 30:10.871 --> 30:15.335 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, but then I'm, I'm crying in a 40 X stuff. 30:15.375 --> 30:21.601 [SPEAKER_00]: That's like, still jostling me, and you're like, I'm not crying. 30:21.641 --> 30:24.124 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just the water being shot at my face. 30:24.564 --> 30:30.210 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, like, only being, and that felt really stupid. 30:32.058 --> 30:33.038 [SPEAKER_01]: like crying on a roller coaster. 30:33.058 --> 30:34.459 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't cry, but I did think that that scene was very beautiful. 30:34.479 --> 30:50.063 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when it looks like they're like in space and they're just like, and it's so dark and it's shot like, you know, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, 30:51.707 --> 30:56.270 [SPEAKER_00]: It's clearly like half practical and half CG. 30:57.070 --> 31:00.873 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't, it just has this really like ghostly. 31:00.893 --> 31:02.814 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I look to it. 31:02.974 --> 31:06.156 [SPEAKER_00]: And I really like that stuff a lot. 31:06.236 --> 31:09.778 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do like, I like Monterey California. 31:11.059 --> 31:17.003 [SPEAKER_01]: All of the shots of, yeah, just like landscape were so beautiful. 31:18.015 --> 31:26.717 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say that the guys like that that are like the boat guys that work, they wish they look like Josh Brown. 31:26.817 --> 31:27.378 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god. 31:27.438 --> 31:27.958 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 31:28.298 --> 31:29.558 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny. 31:30.738 --> 31:43.362 [SPEAKER_01]: I did think like when they first, when they first show him in the full like, you know, bund up to the top flannel, tattoos, like all that shit they're like, okay, yeah, and 31:47.894 --> 32:16.191 [SPEAKER_01]: very like cool kind of aggro dad and then like mild mannered son like normal son instead of like cool guy son and his dad's square it's like the opposite like that is a real thing and I do think that's an interesting dynamic because it's like Josh Berlin does look like a hot like old skater in this 32:17.291 --> 32:33.419 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's really good description and it is funny that you really do hire I mean Josh Brolin the man every time I've seen an interview with him He like is a very sensitive like reads he really loves books He's like obsessed with books. 32:33.479 --> 32:40.143 [SPEAKER_00]: He was so excited to do this movie He's like obsessed with this book and I like I've seen so many videos of him where he's like 32:41.785 --> 33:04.293 [SPEAKER_00]: The interviewer will say where they're from and he knows the name of the book store in that area like he's just a book-ish little dufist But it is funny that he's like the guy you hire to play this exact type of guy every time Yeah, yeah, this is dynamic is really familiar. 33:04.653 --> 33:06.354 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where it's like 33:08.228 --> 33:19.074 [SPEAKER_01]: big personality and then like the kid who just like isn't or maybe they would be but they're too in the shadow of their big personality parent, you know? 33:19.094 --> 33:22.055 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and like 33:23.416 --> 33:32.699 [SPEAKER_00]: Did the, did the, I mean, this movie was certainly, and maybe the book also, not subtle about the, no, it's not enough. 33:33.299 --> 33:35.179 [SPEAKER_00]: It worked for me for the most part, though. 33:35.219 --> 33:43.462 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought it was thoughtfully done, uh, just in a very clear direct way. 33:43.702 --> 33:45.042 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it worked for me too. 33:45.102 --> 33:46.662 [SPEAKER_01]: I like, again, I, I didn't 33:52.444 --> 34:02.127 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, their relationship, where it's like, when he's like, I didn't tell you I read that book because I don't want you to know I liked something that you liked. 34:02.187 --> 34:03.627 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I get that. 34:04.827 --> 34:19.131 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the father's son storyline in this movie is like so tragic because, like, it's very much a story about 34:21.230 --> 34:37.496 [SPEAKER_00]: how about like the journey of seeing your parent as a human being, like in seeing their humanity, and that's a hard thing to get to, like it takes a long time, and some people never get there. 34:38.156 --> 34:49.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's so clear that like, it's like, you know, his dad didn't have a complicated relationship with like the sisters That was very like straight forward just like good. 34:50.186 --> 35:04.578 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, also town Yeah, we're like everyone fucking loved this guy It made me feel very old to see Jane Levy as like the card again older sister in a movie 35:05.568 --> 35:06.248 [SPEAKER_00]: What is she from? 35:06.288 --> 35:10.351 [SPEAKER_01]: She was really familiar to me, but I know she was in the like 20th. 35:10.431 --> 35:13.693 [SPEAKER_01]: I think 13 Resident Evil, but she was in suburbia. 35:13.713 --> 35:14.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember suburbia? 35:16.854 --> 35:17.675 [SPEAKER_00]: Suburgatory. 35:17.735 --> 35:18.876 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, not suburbia. 35:19.176 --> 35:19.556 [SPEAKER_00]: Suburbia. 35:19.616 --> 35:20.376 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just so work. 35:21.177 --> 35:22.057 [SPEAKER_00]: Suburgatory. 35:22.077 --> 35:24.699 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think I saw it. 35:25.239 --> 35:26.920 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a show she was in. 35:27.080 --> 35:31.723 [SPEAKER_01]: Then there was some other show I never watched, but I think had like musical stuff in it. 35:32.203 --> 35:38.268 [SPEAKER_01]: But she's like been around, but it's just like, I remember her is like playing like the teenage daughter. 35:38.848 --> 35:41.431 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now she's the cardigan sister. 35:41.451 --> 35:45.434 [SPEAKER_01]: She's the cardigan sister. 35:45.474 --> 35:46.835 [SPEAKER_00]: The cardigan comes for all of us. 35:46.855 --> 35:58.044 [SPEAKER_00]: I got one for my birthday this week. 35:58.664 --> 36:01.487 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean it is interesting that 36:01.967 --> 36:11.581 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, I feel like I see a version of this type of relationship and a lot of the like writer men that I know, right? 36:11.661 --> 36:16.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, they have a sturdy Midwestern father who like repairs stuff. 36:17.750 --> 36:19.131 [SPEAKER_00]: and is like, what do you do? 36:19.691 --> 36:21.552 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's over there. 36:22.893 --> 36:29.457 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's less aggro, most of the versions of this I've seen, but um, but I don't know. 36:29.597 --> 36:43.366 [SPEAKER_00]: I really appreciated that like, this wasn't some story where like, mitt is abusive, mitt is like, he's not really, he just goes at everything the exact wrong way for this. 36:43.626 --> 36:45.327 [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to cut him with the knife. 36:46.821 --> 37:05.993 [SPEAKER_00]: but it's like he's drunk and he's trying to do a thing he's trying to be like oh the thing doesn't like this doesn't hurt me it's like he like hits him it's not like he he's just really really like hard on him he's hard on him and and he's like and it's 37:07.503 --> 37:23.574 [SPEAKER_00]: the movie doesn't it is like slightly more subtle about this doesn't hit you over the head with it that like he's he is hard on him because he's scared for him and like his belief that he had to be so tough and he can see that his son isn't and like I think that's a story of a lot of 37:24.905 --> 37:35.314 [SPEAKER_00]: those two specific generations, like, those kids that, any one Austin Abrams age, doesn't necessarily have to grow up that tough. 37:36.275 --> 37:38.577 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the world is not that hard. 37:39.177 --> 37:42.640 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it's just a random American kid for the most part. 37:42.800 --> 37:43.160 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 37:43.561 --> 37:47.444 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's also like, living in a million dollar home in Monterey. 37:50.186 --> 38:08.161 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's also just like he's like so unlike him and He doesn't want the same things as him, but like he doesn't get that and he's having like a hard time with that because He like wants to pass on all this stuff and then he's like why don't you care about this? 38:09.842 --> 38:10.643 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like 38:12.605 --> 38:16.986 [SPEAKER_00]: I think what made me really sad, I didn't cry about the father's on relationship at all. 38:17.026 --> 38:30.970 [SPEAKER_00]: I really only cried about the whales, but it's just sad watching it and thinking like, this does seem like the type of relationship we're like, 38:32.712 --> 38:57.320 [SPEAKER_00]: once Jay got into his 30s or 40s, he could probably have a pretty cool, like they just had to have those weird teenage years and probably those weird early 20 years, like he needed to differentiate himself, like there's a falling out of the nest and becoming your own thing so that you can come together with your parents as people and then death just gets 39:00.761 --> 39:19.823 [SPEAKER_00]: yeah and it's sad and it's real like that happens all the time yeah um and yeah so I liked that stuff a lot and I thought it was well played it wasn't like overly I don't know it wasn't overly sentimental it wasn't like 39:21.678 --> 39:37.025 [SPEAKER_01]: too much but it was very direct I mean it it also it is just fun there were several times where I was like wow all okay like it's like a pat like father's on relationship and then it's like 39:37.978 --> 39:43.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, he's inside a whale, right? 39:43.505 --> 39:50.573 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's inside a whale, this movie is inside a whale. 39:51.534 --> 39:57.601 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, again, I think that the trailers made it feel like this was more of a... 39:58.622 --> 40:16.151 [SPEAKER_00]: Jaws type situation or some like that that was gonna be the energy my co-worker was like isn't that like Jaws and I was like no because the whale has no malicious intent Yeah, yeah, and then like toward the middle or end of the movie I was kind of like I don't don't hurt the whale. 40:16.231 --> 40:16.831 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know 40:19.112 --> 40:32.248 [SPEAKER_00]: Will whale is just doing it's thing he doesn't the whale doesn't even know you're in there Yeah, just thinks it has a stomach ache He just thinks like something's going on 40:33.902 --> 40:39.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, a new fear unlocked in, in squidbeaks in this movie. 40:39.807 --> 40:41.929 [SPEAKER_01]: That's, I mean, you're like, oh my god. 40:42.009 --> 40:45.852 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I thought his biggest problem was like being inside a whale. 40:46.252 --> 40:50.516 [SPEAKER_01]: But then it turns out there are extra problems within the whale. 40:51.557 --> 41:02.266 [SPEAKER_01]: He also was being attacked by a squid, which then it's like, oh my gosh, the idea of like, eating things that then are still like a lie of inside of you for a while, crazy. 41:02.786 --> 41:03.266 [SPEAKER_01]: gross. 41:03.586 --> 41:06.428 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there was one of you doing all that. 41:08.249 --> 41:15.452 [SPEAKER_00]: And I did see, I mean, listen, the scientific community is coming for this movie, right? 41:15.472 --> 41:17.012 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, just can't happen. 41:18.613 --> 41:26.196 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, I sent you that screenshot that was like, I was trying to search something about whalefall, and I typed, is whalefall, or canned whalefall. 41:26.236 --> 41:27.937 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, all the searches were like, 41:32.740 --> 41:33.100 [SPEAKER_00]: No! 41:33.921 --> 41:34.761 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not? 41:36.002 --> 41:43.629 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, this is sourced from a single Instagram real-life song of a marine biologist debunking this movie. 41:44.510 --> 41:49.394 [SPEAKER_00]: She said that the first stomach compartment that you would be in. 41:50.755 --> 41:51.476 [SPEAKER_00]: would crush you. 41:51.496 --> 41:59.047 [SPEAKER_00]: It would simply, it just like crushes with an incredible amount of pressure. 41:59.107 --> 41:59.588 [SPEAKER_01]: Fine. 41:59.948 --> 42:03.313 [SPEAKER_00]: The second compartment where the acid, the stomach acid is. 42:04.294 --> 42:05.516 [SPEAKER_00]: Whale stomach acid is 42:07.378 --> 42:09.560 [SPEAKER_00]: more acidic than battery acid. 42:10.621 --> 42:14.125 [SPEAKER_01]: So he would have just been like burned to on risk immediately. 42:14.365 --> 42:16.507 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the wetsuit would not be protecting him. 42:16.887 --> 42:27.898 [SPEAKER_00]: No, but then the funny thing is she also said squids are naturally weirdly resilient to acid. 42:29.420 --> 42:30.340 [SPEAKER_01]: But he was dead. 42:30.960 --> 42:33.521 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bright, but the beak is the only thing left. 42:34.121 --> 42:44.384 [SPEAKER_00]: That frequently in a whalefall situation where they find the body at the bottom of the ocean, there will be a pile of like 40 squidbeaks because they can't digest those. 42:44.524 --> 42:45.724 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. 42:46.084 --> 42:49.205 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the squidbeaks is their corn. 42:53.049 --> 42:59.238 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like oh and I watched that video before I was on the movie and then I was like oh funny squidbeaks do come up in this 43:01.792 --> 43:05.975 [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of swore and I chewed you. 43:06.035 --> 43:17.443 [SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of wondering when I saw this was like, and I genuinely don't know the answer, but I'm not trying to poke science holes in it, because I'm not a scientist, famously not a scientist. 43:19.204 --> 43:24.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Doctor, when the whale starts to glow down, into the deep ocean. 43:26.803 --> 43:27.863 [SPEAKER_00]: Would that not kill you? 43:27.883 --> 43:30.764 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would kill you. 43:31.305 --> 43:32.945 [SPEAKER_01]: I would think it would kill you. 43:33.065 --> 43:38.347 [SPEAKER_01]: And then also when it goes back up, one thing I know about is the bends. 43:38.867 --> 43:41.108 [SPEAKER_01]: That is one ocean thing I know about. 43:41.188 --> 43:42.569 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, surely. 43:44.977 --> 43:49.001 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it doesn't, can't that give you like brain damage or something? 43:49.582 --> 43:52.144 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought that could really, really, really harm you. 43:52.204 --> 43:57.049 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that much about scuba diving or the rules, but I do know that like pressure stuff really matters. 43:57.069 --> 44:03.936 [SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering if the whale itself was acting as some sort of summery and barrier? 44:03.956 --> 44:06.999 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean the pressure. 44:08.060 --> 44:13.702 [SPEAKER_00]: That could be because the whale can withstand the pressure, so maybe inside of the whale's body is fine. 44:13.722 --> 44:19.004 [SPEAKER_00]: But, but it just like break his ear drums. 44:19.084 --> 44:19.905 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 44:22.746 --> 44:27.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was a close-up where I was like, is his eye about to pop right now? 44:27.587 --> 44:29.408 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought his eyes were going to explode. 44:30.188 --> 44:32.769 [SPEAKER_00]: I, this movie was viscerally upsetting. 44:33.530 --> 44:36.971 [SPEAKER_01]: He just, he can't catch a break. 44:37.631 --> 44:39.952 [SPEAKER_00]: No, let's give him a rom-com next, maybe. 44:40.052 --> 44:47.894 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, things just really... Austin Ebrom's is just, it'll be since some sort of situation. 44:48.714 --> 44:53.256 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he is, you know, he is our nation's foremost talking to himself actor. 44:53.376 --> 44:57.517 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that was, this was again where it was like, he's just so good at it! 44:58.772 --> 45:00.053 [SPEAKER_00]: It always feels natural. 45:00.113 --> 45:00.353 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 45:01.354 --> 45:06.258 [SPEAKER_00]: And this time he had to do it with a fucking like scuba rig in his mouth for a lot of it. 45:07.559 --> 45:09.661 [SPEAKER_01]: And wearing a ridiculous outfit. 45:11.422 --> 45:12.963 [SPEAKER_00]: A scuba suit? 45:13.363 --> 45:15.405 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, scuba suits look so stupid. 45:15.425 --> 45:17.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Makes you look like a little fish. 45:17.867 --> 45:18.648 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do this. 45:18.668 --> 45:21.089 [SPEAKER_00]: He's doing so dumb. 45:22.350 --> 45:26.173 [SPEAKER_01]: When he was talking to the jellyfish, 45:29.156 --> 45:33.339 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is so cute. 45:34.320 --> 45:36.501 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even handle it. 45:36.742 --> 45:40.344 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I can't handle how cute and charming this is. 45:40.384 --> 45:42.726 [SPEAKER_01]: He's being so cute right now. 45:43.907 --> 45:45.788 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's, yeah. 45:47.189 --> 45:54.134 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do think that was an important character moment to show that he's not like, that he does care about the sea creatures too. 45:56.305 --> 45:58.907 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, then it's just like, wake up, wake up, buddy. 45:59.948 --> 46:03.491 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and he's like, you need some water and like, dip some in a little bit of water. 46:03.511 --> 46:08.594 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm getting some, do jellyfish just glow like that? 46:08.675 --> 46:14.479 [SPEAKER_00]: I get that the stomach was like bioluminescent, but does that just happen in jellyfish? 46:14.499 --> 46:15.960 [SPEAKER_00]: I think some do. 46:16.561 --> 46:16.921 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 46:16.981 --> 46:18.082 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, actually. 46:20.065 --> 46:34.320 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because you know what the aquarium like I feel like they're usually in the dark But you can see that I always yeah, I always feel like they're like illuminated by one underneath light 46:35.887 --> 46:41.330 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there must be something to, I'm sure, they wouldn't put something fake in a movie. 46:41.851 --> 46:46.694 [SPEAKER_00]: They would never, I appreciated that all these sets were practical. 46:47.675 --> 46:48.875 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome. 46:49.195 --> 46:52.418 [SPEAKER_00]: You said that thing and it's like that's so cool because 46:53.602 --> 47:11.079 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, I, I didn't assume that, I didn't assume it either and the thing I sent Emily is the Instagram account whalefall movie is just like run by like crew or like I don't know who's running it but it's a bunch of behind the scenes video. 47:12.260 --> 47:18.262 [SPEAKER_00]: from crew members who were just like working on this and it has like what 200 followers or something? 47:18.282 --> 47:29.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did see one comment on one of the videos on that account was like, I think fans or people who are just aware of the movie have like found this account slowly. 47:30.307 --> 47:35.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I found it because Vulture tagged it in something clearly thinking it was the official account. 47:35.771 --> 47:54.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh 47:55.685 --> 48:03.489 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think she's seen it because this movie is really, it respectful to whales. 48:03.950 --> 48:06.051 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's kind of all about respecting men. 48:06.071 --> 48:10.453 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of all about how they're like magic and special. 48:11.934 --> 48:18.257 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in a lot of ways, there were parts of this that felt like, 48:20.219 --> 48:23.682 [SPEAKER_00]: It was exploring, like, what if you were trapped inside a god? 48:23.702 --> 48:24.343 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 48:24.363 --> 48:24.703 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 48:26.685 --> 48:27.005 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 48:28.406 --> 48:35.852 [SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of times where, like, he leans against the wall or something, and I'm like, oh my god, he's leaning against the inside of a whale's stomach right now. 48:35.872 --> 48:36.692 [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy. 48:37.313 --> 48:39.955 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, but there are moments where it's like tender. 48:39.975 --> 48:41.156 [SPEAKER_00]: He's doing it tenderly. 48:41.216 --> 48:41.456 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 48:42.417 --> 48:46.020 [SPEAKER_00]: And the things where he's like developing a relationship to the whale, 48:47.795 --> 48:54.717 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it's sweet, it was sweet, I just like, I like the ocean, I like being sweet to whales. 48:55.338 --> 49:02.720 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, you kind of want to like talk to those workers and be like, guys, don't you know you're attacking an endangered species. 49:03.968 --> 49:04.609 [SPEAKER_01]: cut it out. 49:06.391 --> 49:07.713 [SPEAKER_00]: I have two different thoughts right now. 49:07.773 --> 49:20.049 [SPEAKER_00]: Neither of them have anything to do with the movie necessarily, but did you see the video a few weeks ago of the orcas that like just like demolished a sunfish? 49:21.571 --> 49:35.141 [SPEAKER_00]: No, oh my god, maybe I'll find it and put it and clip it out here, but there's a video and it's two orcas and one orca with its mouth is just holding the fish in place. 49:36.362 --> 49:59.865 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the other Orca is full speed slams into it and the fish just like explodes into a million views And it's the craziest thing I've ever seen Orca's Orca's have different PR than they did when I was kid It is You were seeing sea world ads every week Aside from the cruelty 50:00.745 --> 50:08.809 [SPEAKER_01]: That's really insane that they thought it would like work out well to keep those as like slaves. 50:10.570 --> 50:10.950 [SPEAKER_01]: You know? 50:10.970 --> 50:12.491 [SPEAKER_01]: Truthfully. 50:12.531 --> 50:14.352 [SPEAKER_01]: What did they think was going to happen? 50:15.633 --> 50:19.735 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and now the workers of the world are more evil than ever because of it. 50:20.055 --> 50:20.455 [SPEAKER_00]: I think. 50:20.875 --> 50:22.476 [SPEAKER_00]: They're on their revenge. 50:23.036 --> 50:25.918 [SPEAKER_00]: The other thought I was having was I'm wondering. 50:31.647 --> 50:33.509 [SPEAKER_00]: it was mostly about whales. 50:34.690 --> 50:43.117 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm wondering generally, generally, we, we every lesson had to do with whales, every book had to do with whales. 50:43.697 --> 50:54.146 [SPEAKER_00]: I vividly remember like the my only memory from kindergarten maybe is the day we all went outside with string to show how big different what types of whales are. 50:54.807 --> 50:57.649 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm now wondering, it's like, it's what, 50:59.230 --> 51:07.893 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like when you talk to someone from another state, and you're like, yeah, and then you have to make a mission out of Styrofoam in fourth grade, and they're like, what are you talking about? 51:08.013 --> 51:12.975 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, oh, I went to school in California, and that's a thing we do there. 51:13.115 --> 51:18.017 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I don't think so. 51:19.838 --> 51:22.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Because you were in a beach town too, right? 51:24.099 --> 51:25.600 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we definitely went on like, 51:27.413 --> 51:35.880 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of stuff about the beach and litter on the beach was a big topic. 51:36.240 --> 51:40.543 [SPEAKER_00]: So there was definitely a lot of marine chatter. 51:42.565 --> 51:50.711 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say my version of everything being about whales is just recently I realized to ask the question, 51:51.972 --> 52:01.157 [SPEAKER_01]: When other, did other people have the experience of like when they were a kid like elementary school and younger. 52:01.898 --> 52:08.301 [SPEAKER_01]: They were just like always holding a snake because I feel like when I was a kid I was just always holding a snake. 52:08.922 --> 52:11.123 [SPEAKER_01]: And we were all just always holding a snake. 52:12.403 --> 52:16.126 [SPEAKER_00]: And that didn't come up for me. 52:16.326 --> 52:17.386 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't. 52:20.082 --> 52:26.408 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that might be like a very 90s, early 2000s LA thing. 52:26.988 --> 52:36.256 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like, every birthday party, everyone had a birthday party at some point where like the reptile person came. 52:36.597 --> 52:37.437 [SPEAKER_01]: That's really funny. 52:37.517 --> 52:46.826 [SPEAKER_01]: With a bunch of reptiles, I had a birthday party in preschool that was the reptile party, where it's like, look, and I understand now, this is not, 52:48.088 --> 52:52.111 [SPEAKER_01]: this probably would not be considered good look. 52:52.332 --> 52:53.292 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a 90s. 52:53.373 --> 52:54.614 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a 90s, okay? 52:55.194 --> 53:01.099 [SPEAKER_01]: And they just had all their animals and it's like, okay, here comes the tortoise. 53:01.219 --> 53:06.584 [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody stand with your legs apart and the tortoise is going to walk through everyone's legs. 53:06.964 --> 53:10.925 [SPEAKER_01]: And then here's a snake who wants to have the snake, who wants to hold the snake. 53:11.405 --> 53:27.190 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there is this place that I think still exists called ecosystem and I think Culver City that they had a bunch of like rescued, like mostly reptiles, but also some other like exotic animals that they found in a suitcase or something. 53:27.310 --> 53:34.452 [SPEAKER_01]: And but it was mostly reptiles and you go to people would have birthday parties there all the time, like a whole party package where it's like, 53:35.272 --> 53:42.558 [SPEAKER_01]: everyone goes around and you hold snakes and I was just holding a snake a lot and I don't know this. 53:42.739 --> 53:47.282 [SPEAKER_01]: I just recently thought about how that might not be a universal experience. 53:49.024 --> 53:52.627 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no that didn't that wasn't happening for me. 53:53.047 --> 53:53.548 [SPEAKER_00]: I was in. 53:55.059 --> 53:58.600 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I went to elementary school in 1989. 53:58.780 --> 54:00.361 [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that crazy? 54:00.681 --> 54:02.321 [SPEAKER_00]: I think in a garden in the 80s. 54:03.282 --> 54:04.102 [SPEAKER_00]: Damn! 54:04.362 --> 54:04.922 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm old. 54:04.942 --> 54:06.683 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're the court again. 54:06.703 --> 54:07.963 [SPEAKER_00]: You're the court ancestor. 54:08.803 --> 54:10.644 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the guard against his doom. 54:10.684 --> 54:12.664 [SPEAKER_01]: You missed the snake birthday, boom. 54:12.844 --> 54:14.285 [SPEAKER_01]: You missed the snake. 54:14.305 --> 54:14.565 [SPEAKER_01]: I did. 54:14.585 --> 54:14.705 [SPEAKER_01]: I did. 54:15.245 --> 54:23.688 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think I was in school during early, save the whales type of stuff. 54:25.048 --> 54:41.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but also I went to elementary school in Carl's Bad, which at the time didn't have Lego land or any of the other stuff it had like flower fields And so like it was whales it was constant Education about whales and also we'd have like 54:43.022 --> 55:02.583 [SPEAKER_00]: once every two buns there would be an assembly with a lifeguard about like beach safety because it was such a surf town and so yeah but it was like kind of wild so like it was lots of like you have to drag your feet so you don't step on a stingray and here's what you do if this happens and here's how you get out of a rip current and like 55:03.043 --> 55:06.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Constant education about how to not die at the beer. 55:06.406 --> 55:21.116 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't let the seed take you children So no wonder I like look at the beach with all in fear now did Josh Bullon ever come in sort of tell you step by step What to do if you get eaten by a whale? 55:22.637 --> 55:31.960 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess someone who was that type of guy was probably who was educating the school, the local schools about that. 55:32.200 --> 55:42.944 [SPEAKER_00]: And there were plenty of men in that town when I was a kid in 1990 that lived at the beach and kind of looked, you know, 55:44.104 --> 55:45.506 [SPEAKER_00]: tan jacked old guys. 55:45.526 --> 55:46.547 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that was it. 55:46.587 --> 55:48.450 [SPEAKER_00]: That was a good coincidence. 55:48.490 --> 55:58.443 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so those towns always have those Now what would you do if you were in the situation? 55:58.463 --> 56:00.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god 56:03.434 --> 56:15.023 [SPEAKER_00]: I, well, listen, I wouldn't be, first of all, there's no way, I'm never swimming in water deep enough that a whale can be there. 56:15.563 --> 56:18.926 [SPEAKER_00]: But, um, you know, die, I think I would die. 56:18.946 --> 56:20.707 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really really fast. 56:21.088 --> 56:23.930 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I would probably just take out my oxygen. 56:25.024 --> 56:25.364 [SPEAKER_01]: thing. 56:26.606 --> 56:32.131 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know what else to, you, even think to do. 56:32.151 --> 56:32.712 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 56:33.292 --> 56:36.736 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was wondering. 56:37.679 --> 56:38.660 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, never mind. 56:39.120 --> 56:40.922 [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't wondering this, I take it back. 56:41.663 --> 56:51.291 [SPEAKER_00]: I was about to say I was wondering why he didn't try and find the blowhole and try to get out that way and I just realized not all whales have blowholes, so that's probably why. 56:51.311 --> 56:59.618 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, I didn't know that, but I think the blowhole section is not connected in any way to the stomach. 56:59.678 --> 57:00.299 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 57:00.359 --> 57:04.903 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like he would have had to get like out into a whole mother's system. 57:05.263 --> 57:07.224 [SPEAKER_00]: like in two ways as long as there's something. 57:07.924 --> 57:08.724 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. 57:09.224 --> 57:11.044 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think not every whale has that. 57:11.284 --> 57:11.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Really? 57:13.485 --> 57:14.345 [SPEAKER_00]: I went to whale school. 57:14.365 --> 57:16.106 [SPEAKER_01]: I went every whale out of that. 57:17.346 --> 57:21.347 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, have you ever gone snorkeling or anything? 57:22.007 --> 57:23.628 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even going to hate snorkeling. 57:23.808 --> 57:24.408 [SPEAKER_01]: Me too. 57:24.488 --> 57:25.388 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't, okay. 57:26.951 --> 57:27.171 [SPEAKER_00]: same. 57:27.832 --> 57:29.353 [SPEAKER_00]: I have gotten, but I hate it. 57:29.373 --> 57:33.336 [SPEAKER_01]: I went one time and it was in elementary school. 57:33.976 --> 57:36.618 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the teachers ran a marine biology club. 57:37.178 --> 57:40.140 [SPEAKER_01]: Once a week after school, we didn't do much in the club. 57:40.160 --> 57:46.025 [SPEAKER_01]: The only reason to join was because then you could go on the Catalina weekend trip. 57:46.545 --> 57:47.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's fun. 57:47.366 --> 57:47.726 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 57:49.147 --> 57:49.607 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like 57:56.870 --> 57:57.631 [SPEAKER_00]: there was snorkeling. 57:58.973 --> 58:01.435 [SPEAKER_01]: And I hated it so much. 58:01.976 --> 58:03.678 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt really freaked out. 58:04.199 --> 58:05.801 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I couldn't breathe. 58:06.281 --> 58:09.445 [SPEAKER_01]: I was feeling very claustrophobic, but also exposed. 58:09.625 --> 58:11.167 [SPEAKER_01]: I hated it so much. 58:12.168 --> 58:14.811 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we were supposed to go again the next day. 58:15.692 --> 58:18.994 [SPEAKER_01]: And there were, me and a couple of the girls really didn't want to go again. 58:19.174 --> 58:21.156 [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the moms helped us hide. 58:21.176 --> 58:24.197 [SPEAKER_01]: And so the snorkeling trip left. 58:24.318 --> 58:25.498 [SPEAKER_01]: So we didn't have to go. 58:25.698 --> 58:27.500 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we saw a bison. 58:28.200 --> 58:29.961 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, everyone else was called that's fun. 58:30.041 --> 58:30.682 [SPEAKER_00]: The bison. 58:31.162 --> 58:31.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Catalina. 58:32.002 --> 58:32.423 [SPEAKER_00]: Ellison. 58:32.443 --> 58:42.989 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're listening and you're not in California, Catalina is a little island off the coast of L.A. And there's a herd of bison that were left there by westerns that used to shoot there that now just are like a, 58:44.050 --> 58:44.890 [SPEAKER_00]: They just just started there. 58:44.910 --> 58:45.931 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they're... 58:47.892 --> 58:48.192 [UNKNOWN]: They're... 58:48.712 --> 58:51.093 [SPEAKER_01]: They're... Yeah, I really did not like snorkeling. 58:51.253 --> 58:51.393 [SPEAKER_01]: I... 58:52.174 --> 58:59.877 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd remember I really fell hard for a sea cucumber that I got to hold. 59:01.805 --> 59:08.188 [SPEAKER_01]: I really loved him and I wanted to see Cucumber as a pet so bad, but you can't really have them as pets. 59:09.869 --> 59:14.291 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I hate the New North Tennessee, so I would never dive. 59:14.631 --> 59:16.132 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I would never dive. 59:16.152 --> 59:17.773 [SPEAKER_00]: I would never dive. 59:17.913 --> 59:19.474 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's really frightening. 59:19.534 --> 59:21.455 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's cool that people do it. 59:23.155 --> 59:28.658 [SPEAKER_00]: And I find the jobs where you have to do it really interesting and scary too. 59:28.678 --> 59:29.619 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so scary. 59:30.439 --> 59:37.807 [SPEAKER_01]: because if you're doing it in a job capacity, like that usually means you're doing it in like a dangerous way. 59:38.628 --> 59:47.117 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, there people have to do it like under bridges for some reason or like a lot of body retrievals or like 59:48.775 --> 59:50.996 [SPEAKER_00]: And isn't there underwater welding? 59:51.156 --> 59:54.338 [SPEAKER_00]: Is like a job that's been readably dangerous? 59:55.679 --> 59:56.739 [SPEAKER_00]: All of that freaks me out. 59:56.759 --> 01:00:00.941 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, being under the water freaks me, yeah, I mean, too. 01:00:00.961 --> 01:00:06.725 [SPEAKER_00]: I went snorkeling twice in my adult life. 01:00:07.325 --> 01:00:13.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Once in Grenada or Barbados or something, like on a cruise with my dad. 01:00:14.689 --> 01:00:14.889 [SPEAKER_00]: And I, 01:00:18.786 --> 01:00:26.529 [SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting, you said you snorkeled in Catalina because my most hated animal in the entire world is an eel. 01:00:26.549 --> 01:00:28.229 [SPEAKER_00]: I hate eels. 01:00:28.349 --> 01:00:34.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Me too, I think they're the scariest, most evil of very long time. 01:00:34.231 --> 01:00:36.332 [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't even look at eels. 01:00:36.392 --> 01:00:46.976 [SPEAKER_01]: They viscerally chilled me so to my core that I couldn't even at aquariums, like really look at eels for too long because they're very upsetting. 01:00:47.736 --> 01:00:51.780 [SPEAKER_00]: We should call this episode two women being really normal about the ocean. 01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:56.664 [SPEAKER_00]: We're just like listing things we hate about it. 01:00:57.084 --> 01:00:59.767 [SPEAKER_00]: But Catalina has a lot of eels. 01:00:59.927 --> 01:01:02.129 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's a very eel heavy place. 01:01:02.589 --> 01:01:07.033 [SPEAKER_00]: But I snorkeled in like Barbados or something and um 01:01:09.816 --> 01:01:22.089 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember being scared, but like not wanting to admit it to family members, I didn't let them know me that well, and so I went with them and we're kind of just like, once we all got out in the water. 01:01:23.677 --> 01:01:24.978 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just off of beach, right? 01:01:25.058 --> 01:01:29.499 [SPEAKER_00]: So you just walk into the water together, and then you're all kind of doing your own thing. 01:01:30.340 --> 01:01:38.483 [SPEAKER_00]: And I essentially did it until I saw an eel and then I got out and just sat on the beach and was like, no, no, no, no. 01:01:38.503 --> 01:01:44.525 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I did it again like a few years ago in Hawaii with Alex and same situation. 01:01:44.545 --> 01:01:49.907 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw some kind of eel looking creature and I was like, no, I'm done. 01:01:50.907 --> 01:01:59.569 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually do think I might enjoy it in like a tropical sea where the water is clear. 01:02:00.349 --> 01:02:05.450 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a bunch of like pretty colorful things to look at. 01:02:05.751 --> 01:02:14.893 [SPEAKER_01]: I think with Catalina, it's like, it's so gray and dark and rocky and everything over there. 01:02:14.913 --> 01:02:18.153 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the water is kind of like, I don't know what's going on. 01:02:18.333 --> 01:02:20.334 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm down here and I don't know what's going on right now. 01:02:21.074 --> 01:02:31.161 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm just scared of reefs too, like there's so much life in them, and it's really cool, but I prefer a glass bottom boat, which is like a big thing in Catalina. 01:02:31.241 --> 01:02:38.846 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've never been on one because every time I've gone to Catalina, I haven't been as an adult. 01:02:38.886 --> 01:02:48.613 [SPEAKER_01]: I might have outgrown this, but I never went to Catalina without barfing a lot on the way there and back. 01:02:49.293 --> 01:02:49.953 [SPEAKER_01]: And so then. 01:02:50.013 --> 01:02:51.174 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting. 01:02:51.654 --> 01:02:55.916 [SPEAKER_01]: I am still very prone to nausea, as I say. 01:02:56.217 --> 01:03:00.659 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was like the most like motion sickness prone kid. 01:03:00.979 --> 01:03:03.400 [SPEAKER_01]: We kept like a bar bag on the car and stuff. 01:03:03.860 --> 01:03:07.822 [SPEAKER_01]: And so on the boat to Catalina, I would always go, that right on the deck, just like that. 01:03:08.603 --> 01:03:16.067 [SPEAKER_01]: And so then by the time we got there, even if like, I don't know that people were going with, we're going, it was like, no, Emily, like, 01:03:16.827 --> 01:03:19.228 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you shit got on another boat right now. 01:03:20.908 --> 01:03:23.249 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've never been on a glass of wine on a boat. 01:03:24.349 --> 01:03:25.869 [SPEAKER_00]: That's really funny and sad. 01:03:28.130 --> 01:03:29.650 [SPEAKER_00]: My mom had that problem too going. 01:03:29.670 --> 01:03:32.811 [SPEAKER_00]: We went a lot, but she always made her really smooth. 01:03:33.892 --> 01:03:35.392 [SPEAKER_00]: But there used to be three options. 01:03:35.512 --> 01:03:36.892 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I'm so sorry listeners. 01:03:36.912 --> 01:03:38.733 [SPEAKER_00]: We're like talking about Catalina for a half hour. 01:03:39.554 --> 01:03:50.827 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, they're used to be three different options of boats to get to Catalina, like you used to be a bigger destination, and there was one that was a catamaran, and it was so fast, it only took like a half hour or something. 01:03:51.147 --> 01:03:55.973 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we, and it was more expensive, but that was like the only one we'd take, because then it was the only one she would have said. 01:03:57.714 --> 01:04:04.256 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like gonna be the, yeah, it was like a timer starts, okay, back to willful, back to wills. 01:04:04.496 --> 01:04:08.838 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, wills are crazy because they are so big, like they're just so big. 01:04:09.758 --> 01:04:15.820 [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost unfathomable, like it's hard to comprehend how big a sperm will is. 01:04:15.940 --> 01:04:17.360 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like one of the biggest ones. 01:04:17.640 --> 01:04:17.980 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 01:04:18.101 --> 01:04:19.021 [SPEAKER_01]: And so then it's like, 01:04:20.287 --> 01:04:23.792 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you were inside a whale, it's like, how do you get out? 01:04:24.113 --> 01:04:26.115 [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many layers and stuff. 01:04:26.756 --> 01:04:28.779 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's so much love for us, so thick. 01:04:29.781 --> 01:04:34.427 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, that nearer, that nearer, nearer escape is brutal. 01:04:36.216 --> 01:04:49.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's also, it looks really silly out of its context like, I looked, I looked it up and just the, it was sitting in the tongue. 01:04:52.369 --> 01:04:54.131 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kind of cradled in the tongue. 01:04:54.911 --> 01:04:55.772 [SPEAKER_00]: It is absurd, but 01:05:01.944 --> 01:05:25.315 [SPEAKER_01]: sounds and looks so fucking silly but then while you're watching it you're like oh this is actually like ten thralling but then it is kind of it does go back to the silliness a little when he's like you know gathering has a little arsenal of tools stuff like oh now he has a beak and a sock 01:05:32.793 --> 01:05:35.415 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess he was kind of using the beak to climb. 01:05:36.795 --> 01:05:38.176 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it hurts the whale. 01:05:38.236 --> 01:05:46.141 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's sort of the hardest part is like, when you're watching this movie, you're like, well, I'm not like rooting against the whale. 01:05:46.321 --> 01:05:52.345 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I would hope that like I bet sometimes we have little cuts in our stomach, and it's probably fine. 01:05:52.905 --> 01:06:12.935 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, yeah, um, but like if I were him, I would, I guess that's why they have the way old dive is because I would have just kept trying to get out through the mouth, like again, again, but it's like, well, you can't get out now. 01:06:14.453 --> 01:06:17.556 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're in the blackest depths of the sea. 01:06:18.237 --> 01:06:21.140 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would take two hours to swim to the surface. 01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:32.691 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it makes me really sad when, like, see animals, like, when you just, like, when a whale is just, like, on its own, swimming around. 01:06:33.372 --> 01:06:34.533 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so lonely. 01:06:36.162 --> 01:06:38.543 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then it's family came. 01:06:39.123 --> 01:06:41.403 [SPEAKER_00]: It's family coming made me so emotional. 01:06:41.643 --> 01:06:43.004 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, but then they left again. 01:06:43.084 --> 01:06:46.384 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, I think that, yeah, there's something real, they knew he was dead. 01:06:46.404 --> 01:06:48.265 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they knew he was dead, you know. 01:06:48.285 --> 01:06:50.905 [SPEAKER_00]: They were like, sorry, we'll help you, but you're dead. 01:06:51.246 --> 01:06:53.946 [SPEAKER_01]: It also just seems so crazy to be an animal. 01:06:53.986 --> 01:06:58.767 [SPEAKER_01]: We're like, literally every second of your life, something's trying to kill you. 01:06:58.787 --> 01:07:00.588 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:07:00.728 --> 01:07:03.328 [SPEAKER_01]: Like your whole life, like something is actively like 01:07:07.592 --> 01:07:31.687 [SPEAKER_00]: yeah it's really sad it's sad to watch it's sad to watch happen um i can't think too hard about the whales or i will start crying um you know how did you take the ending with the voice like because i think the intent it's intentionally sort of open to interpretation 01:07:32.511 --> 01:07:38.573 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it was just in his head. 01:07:38.694 --> 01:07:39.314 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you mean? 01:07:40.194 --> 01:07:41.695 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:07:41.835 --> 01:07:42.975 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was full. 01:07:43.155 --> 01:07:49.978 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was just him imagining it. 01:07:51.048 --> 01:08:00.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and succumbing to like the shock his body is in because he broke his foot and it has methane poisoning. 01:08:00.315 --> 01:08:05.099 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's in this main bowl and burned by acid. 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:09.182 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he's running out of oxygen. 01:08:09.202 --> 01:08:17.029 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's I thought that he was like in in a bit of a twilight at that point. 01:08:18.330 --> 01:08:18.630 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:08:20.063 --> 01:08:23.485 [SPEAKER_00]: And they had whatever the poisoning was that person described with the bends. 01:08:23.505 --> 01:08:39.253 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the bends is no, the bends is when if you're diving or if you're under water in any capacity like at a certain point, you can't come up too quickly or the pressure, it like does something to your whole body. 01:08:39.273 --> 01:08:45.777 [SPEAKER_01]: Where it's like, I think it's supposed to be this like unimaginable like full body pain. 01:08:47.098 --> 01:08:52.901 [SPEAKER_01]: like just like whole ryffic um I don't even know if you can there dive from it. 01:08:52.941 --> 01:09:03.669 [SPEAKER_01]: You might you might be able to dive from it if it's like but it's it's about the pressure um I see but no I think that I was saying it was like nitrogen poisoning or something. 01:09:03.709 --> 01:09:04.950 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes that's right. 01:09:06.270 --> 01:09:10.272 [SPEAKER_01]: but it was kind of funny. 01:09:10.372 --> 01:09:11.972 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean this is every movie. 01:09:11.992 --> 01:09:13.213 [SPEAKER_01]: This is what plots are. 01:09:14.993 --> 01:09:18.835 [SPEAKER_01]: It was really funny how convenient everything was in the end. 01:09:19.775 --> 01:09:24.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean it is also it's so funny that he like, 01:09:25.498 --> 01:09:38.257 [SPEAKER_01]: put a battery in his pocket for a weight and it's like one battery and it's just like Why were there all these loose batteries in the trunk of his it was just so it's like oh 01:09:39.643 --> 01:09:56.050 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank god there's randomly steel wool in the whale's stomach, and you have this battery, and also the whale's dead, so you don't have to have any qualms about hurting the whale. 01:09:56.570 --> 01:10:04.253 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was happy for him, I was happy he got out. 01:10:04.983 --> 01:10:11.989 [SPEAKER_00]: I was happy for his family who would be fucked up beyond the leaves if they lost another relative with no body. 01:10:14.791 --> 01:10:25.140 [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about how like if you were in a whale stomach part of it would be like I got to get out of here so I can like tell everyone all the time. 01:10:25.400 --> 01:10:27.502 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the best party in anecdote. 01:10:27.982 --> 01:10:30.903 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy who, like, one time I got eaten by a whale, I don't know. 01:10:30.943 --> 01:10:36.784 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy who, like, they, they info the studio invited him to a special screening. 01:10:37.164 --> 01:10:40.224 [SPEAKER_00]: He was swallowed by a whale once for, like, a minute. 01:10:40.364 --> 01:10:41.084 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you get up? 01:10:41.664 --> 01:10:43.205 [SPEAKER_01]: Did it just, like, spit him up, like, a cat? 01:10:43.445 --> 01:10:44.605 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so. 01:10:45.105 --> 01:10:47.325 [SPEAKER_00]: It was, like, rehe, he said it's, like, really short. 01:10:47.405 --> 01:10:51.386 [SPEAKER_00]: The amount of time he was in the whale is just, like, some fucking dufists from Boston. 01:10:51.406 --> 01:10:52.986 [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking, fucking poser. 01:10:53.006 --> 01:10:54.007 [SPEAKER_01]: A lobster. 01:10:54.067 --> 01:10:55.527 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's, like, a lobster fisherman. 01:10:55.547 --> 01:10:56.127 [SPEAKER_01]: There's something. 01:10:57.208 --> 01:10:57.988 [SPEAKER_01]: That's so fun. 01:10:58.008 --> 01:11:01.031 [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, I got even my oil for like one second. 01:11:01.051 --> 01:11:05.474 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like one minute out of the side of the way. 01:11:06.055 --> 01:11:09.197 [SPEAKER_00]: They were like, they invited him to the screening. 01:11:10.238 --> 01:11:12.840 [SPEAKER_00]: They did a whole social media video with him. 01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:14.842 [SPEAKER_00]: And this was just like, that's so cool. 01:11:14.862 --> 01:11:16.163 [SPEAKER_00]: What did you think of the movie? 01:11:16.183 --> 01:11:18.485 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, oh, it was awesome. 01:11:18.725 --> 01:11:20.106 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe it. 01:11:20.326 --> 01:11:23.149 [SPEAKER_00]: It was not a complicated man, I don't think. 01:11:26.291 --> 01:11:27.694 [SPEAKER_01]: He was probably like in that minute. 01:11:27.714 --> 01:11:30.378 [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, whoa, this is crazy. 01:11:30.418 --> 01:11:30.959 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited. 01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:31.960 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, all right now. 01:11:31.980 --> 01:11:33.563 [SPEAKER_01]: What the hell? 01:11:33.583 --> 01:11:38.130 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she was like, oh, does that make you think differently about seafood? 01:11:38.190 --> 01:11:38.731 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, no. 01:11:40.812 --> 01:11:45.554 [SPEAKER_01]: Like in the sense where it's like, you were the seafood, you and the squid were the same. 01:11:50.876 --> 01:11:52.397 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. 01:11:52.497 --> 01:11:53.177 [SPEAKER_00]: So, buddy. 01:11:54.357 --> 01:11:57.699 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this poor movie, I hope does okay. 01:11:58.099 --> 01:11:58.559 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 01:11:58.639 --> 01:11:59.219 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt so bad. 01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:08.803 [SPEAKER_01]: There were people, people laughed when Josh Brullen said they call it way off all. 01:12:09.703 --> 01:12:10.984 [SPEAKER_00]: But that is what they call it. 01:12:11.124 --> 01:12:12.125 [SPEAKER_00]: I know! 01:12:12.246 --> 01:12:13.287 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting! 01:12:13.607 --> 01:12:22.055 [SPEAKER_01]: And then afterwards, when I was validating my parking, there were two people behind me, and they were talking about how bad it was. 01:12:22.135 --> 01:12:25.158 [SPEAKER_01]: And then she was like, I guess I'm not allowed to choose the movie anymore. 01:12:25.178 --> 01:12:27.220 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I don't think it was bad. 01:12:27.421 --> 01:12:28.061 [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it. 01:12:28.141 --> 01:12:31.605 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think it could have been 15 minutes shorter, but I did enjoy it. 01:12:32.542 --> 01:12:36.083 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have time for this kind of thing, you know what I mean? 01:12:36.123 --> 01:12:40.724 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I like that it was, I think people may be your mad. 01:12:41.545 --> 01:12:42.785 [SPEAKER_00]: Or I would imagine our mad. 01:12:42.845 --> 01:12:45.166 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not Sharknado or Jaws or whatever. 01:12:45.186 --> 01:12:48.527 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that it's like an interesting, 01:12:49.487 --> 01:12:50.427 [SPEAKER_00]: family drama. 01:12:50.567 --> 01:12:51.468 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, me too. 01:12:51.628 --> 01:12:56.849 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not have been interested if it was just another random big piano movie. 01:12:57.229 --> 01:13:05.732 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I liked that it's such a fucking crazy stupid sounding premise, and then it's like a very, the movie's very serious about it. 01:13:06.192 --> 01:13:25.005 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and it's like, it's the best of, like, genre stuff that it sneaks in a real human story experience in something that's like, okay, I will say I got some misinformation that, um, 01:13:26.281 --> 01:13:39.431 [SPEAKER_01]: the character of Jay that Austin Abrams character was a gay guy in the movie and so that I have to be like, I want to win him being in the whale. 01:13:39.471 --> 01:13:41.372 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna come off that he's gay. 01:13:41.392 --> 01:13:45.575 [SPEAKER_00]: Who was spreading that? 01:13:45.635 --> 01:13:48.917 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I'm supposed to think. 01:13:53.402 --> 01:13:55.424 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the gay agendas strikes again. 01:13:58.907 --> 01:14:01.009 [SPEAKER_00]: The gay agendas comes for whalefall. 01:14:01.509 --> 01:14:06.754 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to do a circle when I was like, I don't know if he's gay. 01:14:09.644 --> 01:14:26.562 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was like a major plot point, but the dad asks him if he has a girlfriend or a boyfriend at some point and he's flattered right by being asked if he has a boyfriend or he's just kind of like, oh, things thanks for being open minded or whatever, but yeah. 01:14:28.484 --> 01:14:33.348 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought he meant things like, that's a compliment, you think I could pull a hot guy. 01:14:34.449 --> 01:14:37.932 [SPEAKER_01]: Well he didn't say hot, he couldn't be an auger. 01:14:42.516 --> 01:14:43.116 [SPEAKER_00]: That's funny. 01:14:44.217 --> 01:14:47.901 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what else do we have to say about this movie? 01:14:49.022 --> 01:14:51.344 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, do you have a favorite kind of whale? 01:14:52.745 --> 01:14:53.926 [SPEAKER_00]: The popcorn bucket kind? 01:14:55.105 --> 01:14:56.426 [SPEAKER_00]: the popcorn bucket whale. 01:14:57.147 --> 01:14:59.268 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, well, I love a narwhal. 01:14:59.468 --> 01:15:03.151 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you can't see one in real life, but I think they're cool. 01:15:05.172 --> 01:15:07.194 [SPEAKER_00]: But that feels like a little bit of a... 01:15:08.953 --> 01:15:24.784 [SPEAKER_00]: quirky millennial answer, so my other answer is beluga whale only because I saw one at the aquarium here and it is just so striking. 01:15:24.884 --> 01:15:26.625 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so crazy to look at. 01:15:27.525 --> 01:15:29.686 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're really cute too. 01:15:29.706 --> 01:15:30.366 [SPEAKER_00]: They're cute. 01:15:30.386 --> 01:15:32.427 [SPEAKER_00]: They have that bump on their head. 01:15:32.447 --> 01:15:33.147 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:15:33.768 --> 01:15:39.250 [SPEAKER_00]: They kind of look like they're smiling and they're just so starkly colored against their backdrop. 01:15:40.491 --> 01:15:43.992 [SPEAKER_01]: Baby Beluga was a big, big part of my childhood. 01:15:45.173 --> 01:15:45.753 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that a show? 01:15:46.573 --> 01:15:50.355 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's the, it's the, Rafi song. 01:15:51.507 --> 01:15:52.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay. 01:15:52.407 --> 01:15:54.988 [SPEAKER_00]: Baby, blue, good, and the deep blue. 01:15:55.028 --> 01:15:58.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't get this in copyright trouble. 01:15:58.409 --> 01:15:59.169 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know it. 01:15:59.209 --> 01:15:59.529 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 01:15:59.549 --> 01:16:03.150 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's about a baby, blue, good, and also his mom. 01:16:03.230 --> 01:16:07.392 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ruffy wasn't operating, I think, when I was a child. 01:16:07.952 --> 01:16:13.373 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know if I have a favorite kind of whale, I asked that, but I wouldn't just see a list of whales. 01:16:13.933 --> 01:16:19.335 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm sure I could choose one from a list, but I'm having a hard time off the top of my head. 01:16:20.255 --> 01:16:26.537 [SPEAKER_00]: I do think there are some whales that are really cute that have like a little, like, cute little smile face. 01:16:27.117 --> 01:16:27.397 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:16:27.497 --> 01:16:34.859 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do always think that there's like a dolphin whale type thing that, this is stupid, bad casting. 01:16:34.899 --> 01:16:36.419 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know the name of the fucking whale. 01:16:36.459 --> 01:16:38.180 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to vaguely describe it. 01:16:38.540 --> 01:16:39.980 [SPEAKER_00]: I vaguely look at my whale. 01:16:41.380 --> 01:16:43.481 [SPEAKER_00]: No, whale is our whales that are cute. 01:16:43.921 --> 01:16:44.621 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no. 01:16:44.681 --> 01:16:47.142 [SPEAKER_01]: Whales are like the most beautiful creatures. 01:16:49.045 --> 01:16:59.109 [SPEAKER_01]: they make me emotional as well because they're just so special and that's a relief to hear actually because I was like, wow, I'm like, I'm like, I'm a stronger person. 01:16:59.129 --> 01:17:01.430 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, as whales, I haven't thought about whales in a long time. 01:17:01.450 --> 01:17:14.655 [SPEAKER_01]: They really like to say that they feel emotion stronger than humans do, like that part of their brain is like more powerful and bigger than ours, so it's like, however 01:17:20.208 --> 01:17:20.869 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god. 01:17:20.949 --> 01:17:29.835 [SPEAKER_01]: And I like when they have friends, they have songs that like travel from like pod to pod and the salmon hats, remember the salmon hats? 01:17:32.116 --> 01:17:33.497 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the salmon hats. 01:17:36.699 --> 01:17:37.560 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:39.501 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's why I should be for Halloween this year. 01:17:40.482 --> 01:17:41.122 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah. 01:17:41.222 --> 01:17:42.323 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh well with the salmon hats. 01:17:43.913 --> 01:17:45.734 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any use for a popcorn book? 01:17:46.114 --> 01:17:49.956 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you should be the little salmon hat on him. 01:17:50.276 --> 01:17:55.379 [SPEAKER_01]: I do, what if in the popcorn bucket, instead of the little diver on the side? 01:17:56.340 --> 01:18:00.762 [SPEAKER_01]: What if when you opened it up, he was like sitting in there? 01:18:02.003 --> 01:18:02.823 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's fun. 01:18:03.103 --> 01:18:04.284 [SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't that be kind of fun? 01:18:05.224 --> 01:18:06.885 [SPEAKER_00]: This is so hard to open. 01:18:06.905 --> 01:18:08.626 [SPEAKER_00]: I like can't do it. 01:18:09.467 --> 01:18:10.087 [SPEAKER_00]: There we go. 01:18:10.107 --> 01:18:12.568 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I want to say more about this movie, 01:18:13.989 --> 01:18:17.491 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is a very straightforward film. 01:18:18.131 --> 01:18:19.351 [SPEAKER_00]: It's very straightforward. 01:18:19.411 --> 01:18:23.233 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's okay that we only talked for an hour and 20 minutes. 01:18:25.114 --> 01:18:28.995 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a lot of things keep happening inside the whale. 01:18:29.896 --> 01:18:32.677 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Father Sun Relationship. 01:18:33.137 --> 01:18:35.218 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are just two things that just keep happening. 01:18:35.698 --> 01:18:49.198 [SPEAKER_00]: those are the two modes of the movie and it's good and we should see our parents as people I think it's before we before they die and we have to understand that as a whale that we are inside of. 01:18:50.900 --> 01:18:51.480 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 01:18:53.261 --> 01:19:00.604 [SPEAKER_00]: Plus, I'm sure we'll have a pretty long conversation in a few days about you can see everything. 01:19:00.824 --> 01:19:03.485 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's okay. 01:19:05.485 --> 01:19:05.705 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:19:05.745 --> 01:19:17.510 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think this movie is like, there's something kind of old school about it and that it's like a perfectly serviceable 01:19:19.417 --> 01:19:37.430 [SPEAKER_00]: thriller like specific premise thriller drama like yeah and that's why I wish that it had its moment in the sun me too and I think it's really cool that they 01:19:37.930 --> 01:19:49.518 [SPEAKER_00]: that the sets were practical and just like CG enhanced, you know, and that they built a huge whale robotic whale head that is so cool. 01:19:49.598 --> 01:19:50.619 [SPEAKER_00]: In a tank of water. 01:19:50.739 --> 01:19:52.260 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got that's really cool. 01:19:52.360 --> 01:19:53.080 [SPEAKER_01]: That is so cool. 01:19:53.101 --> 01:19:57.824 [SPEAKER_01]: And also I know that if I saw that in real life, the whale, the 01:19:58.963 --> 01:20:04.947 [SPEAKER_01]: the mechanical whale head in the water, it would still need to my absolute fucking core. 01:20:05.027 --> 01:20:07.608 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be as upset as if I had just seen an eel. 01:20:08.108 --> 01:20:09.649 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's upset anymore. 01:20:10.670 --> 01:20:22.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever seen video of that shark that was found in like urban adventures on YouTube went into some place in Florida? 01:20:22.837 --> 01:20:40.423 [SPEAKER_00]: an inside of it was a tank with a massive shark, like in, you know, whatever liquid it's those things are like the preserved shark is just it was huge though and it had been just in there for like 01:20:41.986 --> 01:20:46.390 [SPEAKER_00]: years abandoned and it was one of the scariest things. 01:20:47.030 --> 01:20:48.271 [SPEAKER_01]: What is that fear called? 01:20:48.311 --> 01:20:51.914 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like sub-micanophobia or something. 01:20:52.474 --> 01:20:52.975 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe. 01:20:52.995 --> 01:20:59.099 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a specific word for the fear of man made. 01:20:59.740 --> 01:21:04.023 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's just mechanical things or any sort of man made thing under water. 01:21:08.045 --> 01:21:09.386 [SPEAKER_00]: I have that, whatever it is. 01:21:09.486 --> 01:21:10.547 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:21:10.607 --> 01:21:14.750 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder why that is so viscerally like terrifying. 01:21:15.130 --> 01:21:17.371 [SPEAKER_01]: There must be something, but I don't know what it is. 01:21:18.812 --> 01:21:24.036 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's interesting that I think this movie hits so many of people's like viscerally terrifying. 01:21:24.796 --> 01:21:25.377 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:21:25.457 --> 01:21:34.843 [SPEAKER_00]: It's why I'm kind of kind of baffled that people didn't see it or people aren't that interested because I just feel like it's October and it is. 01:21:36.412 --> 01:21:39.153 [SPEAKER_00]: in line with like, get freaked out. 01:21:39.234 --> 01:21:46.697 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess it's like, it's not quite October style scary though, cause it's not like creepy scary. 01:21:46.978 --> 01:21:49.779 [SPEAKER_01]: It's more like a survival type. 01:21:51.040 --> 01:21:54.782 [SPEAKER_01]: It's more like a, it's more in the fall fall category. 01:21:55.642 --> 01:21:56.182 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 01:21:57.643 --> 01:22:01.967 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it did also, the devils came out this weekend, right, too. 01:22:02.487 --> 01:22:04.869 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's too big of a weekend. 01:22:05.049 --> 01:22:06.710 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the October move. 01:22:06.770 --> 01:22:08.131 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think for me. 01:22:08.252 --> 01:22:10.493 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's only in theaters for one week. 01:22:11.094 --> 01:22:12.075 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so. 01:22:12.815 --> 01:22:17.116 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, listen, I'm sorry to whale fall, but I really like to you, I'll recommend it. 01:22:17.496 --> 01:22:21.317 [SPEAKER_01]: I also, I think it's like a really fun theater movie. 01:22:21.457 --> 01:22:29.539 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it's just fun to go to the movies and be like, I wonder how this guy gets out of this whale. 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:31.320 [SPEAKER_00]: How's he gonna know? 01:22:31.360 --> 01:22:35.461 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think that is just like innately fun. 01:22:36.441 --> 01:22:36.801 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:22:37.962 --> 01:22:38.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay. 01:22:39.302 --> 01:22:39.562 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, 01:22:41.338 --> 01:22:45.159 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you in a couple of days, for you can see everything, guys. 01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:47.700 [SPEAKER_01]: See you then. 01:22:48.100 --> 01:22:48.661 [SPEAKER_01]: Bye. 01:22:53.462 --> 01:22:56.543 [SPEAKER_01]: That was our episode on Walefall. 01:22:57.664 --> 01:23:08.307 [SPEAKER_01]: If you liked this episode, if you saw Walefall with a friend, if you're currently inside a whale, the best way to get us more 01:23:10.928 --> 01:23:23.957 [SPEAKER_01]: listeners, viewers, so that we have money to buy whale popcorn buckets and 40X tickets would be to text the direct link to the episode to a friend. 01:23:24.417 --> 01:23:32.003 [SPEAKER_01]: You can also raid and review us on Spotify or Apple podcast and you can follow us on YouTube, TikTok, 01:23:32.603 --> 01:23:40.915 [SPEAKER_01]: Instagram, all those places, and we will see you in a few days with, uh, you can see everything. 01:23:41.355 --> 01:23:41.656 [SPEAKER_01]: Bye! 01:23:45.160 --> 01:23:48.846 [SPEAKER_00]: Medium Litter, it was created and produced by Monica Scott and Emily Fay. 01:23:49.366 --> 01:23:54.013 [SPEAKER_00]: Our theme music was composed by Christian Larson, and technical help is from Alex Luchin. 01:23:54.974 --> 01:23:57.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for listening and we will see you at the movies.