WEBVTT 00:00.402 --> 00:12.485 [UNKNOWN]: Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world, but the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, where we continue to follow the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden now. 00:12.525 --> 00:18.687 [UNKNOWN]: There's just some of the scenes overnight, a thousands of Americans gathered in some operation Osama bin Laden's death. 00:19.047 --> 00:24.869 [UNKNOWN]: Former Navy SEAL Roboniel says he has thought about the mission every day since that Mayday in 2020. 00:25.029 --> 00:32.352 [UNKNOWN]: in multiple conversations you had with Rob O'Neill over the past year and a half, how did you describe that his head kind of exploded? 00:32.432 --> 00:32.772 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 00:33.032 --> 00:37.154 [UNKNOWN]: I actually hit him three times, so I shot him twice when he was standing and once I was doing it. 00:37.214 --> 00:38.815 [UNKNOWN]: That is the fucking American man! 00:38.835 --> 00:39.155 [UNKNOWN]: He's the man! 00:39.175 --> 00:39.755 [UNKNOWN]: Go, go, go! 00:40.096 --> 00:43.717 [UNKNOWN]: We are not going for fame, and we are not going for Bravado. 00:44.557 --> 00:54.502 [UNKNOWN]: We are going for the single mom who dropped her kids off at elementary school on a Tuesday morning, and then 45 minutes later, she jumped toward death out of a skyscraper. 00:55.238 --> 00:58.120 [UNKNOWN]: your need help, hang up, and then die your operator. 00:58.681 --> 01:08.889 [UNKNOWN]: I'm Rob O'Neill, and this is the Operator Podcast. 01:12.652 --> 01:16.936 [UNKNOWN]: What is up, it is time for another episode of the Operator Podcasts. 01:17.016 --> 01:19.098 [UNKNOWN]: Today we're going to talk to Clint Emerson. 01:20.652 --> 01:29.856 [UNKNOWN]: former Navy SEAL current author, 100 deadly skills, series actually, we'll get into that too that's exciting. 01:30.136 --> 01:38.000 [UNKNOWN]: Entrepreneurist stuff, he's the most recent addition to the Operator's Collectivity will be with us at ApexPro to call next month in Vegas. 01:38.780 --> 01:54.752 [UNKNOWN]: his his career is pretty interesting to navy seal obviously and then seal team six but a different side from from my side the not not on the assault or side but some of the other cool guy stuff that you when you think of like Jason born type shit really smart dude very very 01:56.788 --> 01:57.828 [UNKNOWN]: Very clever tactics. 01:57.868 --> 02:01.609 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to shut up right now and let him talk, but enjoy this episode of The Operator with Clint Dembers. 02:01.769 --> 02:02.709 [UNKNOWN]: I excite it today. 02:02.749 --> 02:03.610 [UNKNOWN]: Clint Dembers in this year. 02:03.690 --> 02:04.090 [UNKNOWN]: Finally. 02:04.310 --> 02:04.630 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, yeah. 02:04.670 --> 02:05.210 [UNKNOWN]: It's good hanging out. 02:05.230 --> 02:06.170 [UNKNOWN]: And I said, finally, be kidding. 02:06.190 --> 02:09.531 [UNKNOWN]: Well, not finally, we meant, I think we mentioned it once and now we're just doing it. 02:09.611 --> 02:09.811 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:10.031 --> 02:12.072 [UNKNOWN]: But welcome to The Studio Welcome to The Operator podcast. 02:12.292 --> 02:12.592 [UNKNOWN]: Awesome. 02:12.612 --> 02:13.492 [UNKNOWN]: Pretty awesome. 02:13.672 --> 02:14.092 [UNKNOWN]: I like it. 02:14.112 --> 02:14.992 [UNKNOWN]: It's turning out good. 02:15.092 --> 02:15.572 [UNKNOWN]: It's not bad. 02:15.592 --> 02:19.193 [UNKNOWN]: We're still obviously needs a little bit of lining in the back and the new chair. 02:19.213 --> 02:21.174 [UNKNOWN]: I got you sitting in a kitchen chair, sorry, about that. 02:21.374 --> 02:24.735 [UNKNOWN]: Technically, I offer this one, which isn't official one. 02:26.897 --> 02:28.855 [UNKNOWN]: Well, this is fun though, what are you doing up to? 02:29.965 --> 02:30.906 [UNKNOWN]: That's a great question. 02:31.446 --> 02:32.967 [UNKNOWN]: I did I began 90 days ago. 02:33.107 --> 02:34.248 [UNKNOWN]: That was 90 days ago. 02:34.268 --> 02:34.848 [UNKNOWN]: We started with that. 02:34.968 --> 02:36.509 [UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, a little bit of a background. 02:36.829 --> 02:38.830 [UNKNOWN]: Can you give us a background Bud's class, Navy Seal? 02:38.971 --> 02:39.691 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, sure. 02:40.772 --> 02:44.634 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Bud's class 203 started with my class finish with my class. 02:44.694 --> 02:45.895 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's important for us. 02:46.215 --> 02:48.677 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of people don't know that there's rollbacks. 02:48.777 --> 02:51.298 [UNKNOWN]: And then there's people that took two, three years to get through Bud's. 02:51.858 --> 02:54.940 [UNKNOWN]: I was lucky to do, okay, let's start with it. 02:55.000 --> 02:56.321 [UNKNOWN]: 208, start with them and do it with them. 02:56.441 --> 02:56.721 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 02:59.703 --> 03:00.244 [UNKNOWN]: That was tough. 03:00.344 --> 03:04.628 [UNKNOWN]: I remember the couple of the classes before I got there, there was some serious classes. 03:04.948 --> 03:06.589 [UNKNOWN]: There was one that graduated like 11 dudes. 03:06.729 --> 03:06.990 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:07.450 --> 03:08.371 [UNKNOWN]: I think it was pretty rough. 03:08.411 --> 03:09.872 [UNKNOWN]: I think it was mostly San Diego. 03:09.892 --> 03:11.714 [UNKNOWN]: It actually had a winter during those. 03:12.074 --> 03:12.654 [UNKNOWN]: And that's what. 03:12.775 --> 03:12.895 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:12.915 --> 03:13.035 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:13.195 --> 03:13.315 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:13.335 --> 03:14.576 [UNKNOWN]: That's what's under a lot of dudes. 03:15.137 --> 03:15.617 [UNKNOWN]: Extra cold. 03:15.797 --> 03:17.418 [UNKNOWN]: What was the, okay, what was the thinking? 03:17.678 --> 03:19.120 [UNKNOWN]: Let's just back up than why the Navy. 03:19.680 --> 03:22.742 [UNKNOWN]: It's an interesting story like when I grew up in Saudi. 03:23.263 --> 03:24.844 [UNKNOWN]: So that's already interesting to ship. 03:24.884 --> 03:31.829 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so my dad worked for Ramco and on one of our vacations passing through Frankfurt Germany. 03:32.750 --> 03:34.391 [UNKNOWN]: Saudi didn't allow Coke at the time. 03:34.431 --> 03:41.356 [UNKNOWN]: So my first goal and we would land the first stop, you know, when you've depart Saudi, land in Frankfurt immediately go, get a Coke. 03:41.516 --> 03:41.997 [UNKNOWN]: That's pretty cool. 03:42.297 --> 03:43.418 [UNKNOWN]: He's a group of just drinking Pepsi. 03:44.110 --> 03:58.635 [UNKNOWN]: Now what is it we obviously know there's money behind what is that that's really interesting I didn't know that what why so there's two reasons I've heard the Saudis at the time co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- 04:08.359 --> 04:12.400 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so okay, the Jewish people ran, ran Coke and then ran white. 04:12.420 --> 04:13.420 [UNKNOWN]: That was it, and then just Pepsi. 04:14.140 --> 04:15.240 [UNKNOWN]: So they only allow Pepsi. 04:15.260 --> 04:18.081 [UNKNOWN]: They don't have a P in Arabic, so it's Bebzy, Bebzy, Coke. 04:18.341 --> 04:20.221 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, grew up drinking that. 04:20.241 --> 04:24.542 [UNKNOWN]: Soon as you get to Frankfurt, I go to the bar across from our gate for our next flight. 04:24.642 --> 04:26.383 [UNKNOWN]: I get a Coke, and there's a guy staying in there. 04:26.983 --> 04:27.823 [UNKNOWN]: It's got tattoos. 04:27.843 --> 04:29.363 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, hey, what's what's your tattoo? 04:29.383 --> 04:30.263 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, it's a trade in. 04:30.283 --> 04:31.584 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, what's a trade in? 04:32.264 --> 04:34.564 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, it's represents, you know, seal stuff. 04:34.604 --> 04:35.765 [UNKNOWN]: It's the teams and this and that. 04:35.785 --> 04:36.625 [UNKNOWN]: And he's telling me this whole 04:38.245 --> 05:00.013 [UNKNOWN]: Hey kid, you remember when we, uh, we bomb Libya and like yeah, actually I was the color guard for George Bush senior as when he was vice president and holding the flag as a boy scout, while he's telling a Ramco employees that, uh, hey, if Libya does anything, they're gonna do it here because your closest targets will have C130s and stuff lined up for you guys to get you out of here if things get crazy. 05:00.873 --> 05:04.456 [UNKNOWN]: So I tell him that and he's like, well, yeah, so we me and my buddies. 05:04.516 --> 05:10.180 [UNKNOWN]: We went in and took out any aircraft guns So that the B1-11s could come in low and not have to worry about getting oh, wow. 05:10.200 --> 05:13.402 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow guy and I'm like, wow, what do you mean? 05:13.722 --> 05:15.123 [UNKNOWN]: You know like what does that mean? 05:15.163 --> 05:23.329 [UNKNOWN]: You took him out He's like, yeah, you shoot everybody you put demo on there and you blow it up and you run away And I'll fuck yeah So I want to do it first of all how over you this time 05:23.892 --> 05:24.492 [UNKNOWN]: I like 10. 05:24.572 --> 05:26.173 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's doing his firing new up. 05:26.213 --> 05:26.473 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 05:26.593 --> 05:27.233 [UNKNOWN]: Is he a recruiter? 05:27.273 --> 05:27.714 [UNKNOWN]: He's just there. 05:28.334 --> 05:29.234 [UNKNOWN]: He's probably could have been. 05:29.254 --> 05:29.874 [UNKNOWN]: He probably should have been. 05:29.974 --> 05:30.154 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 05:30.214 --> 05:30.895 [UNKNOWN]: But here's the best. 05:30.935 --> 05:42.839 [UNKNOWN]: So fast forward, get through Buds, show up to seal team three, seal team three, focus on the Middle East, start talking to the old guys, hey, were we the ones that went in, took out these any aircraft guns and they don't know, they're like, no, they never fucking have. 05:42.859 --> 05:48.101 [UNKNOWN]: And it sounds like I know our E. You know, so the operational readiness exams, it sounds like a big, made up thing. 05:48.141 --> 05:48.402 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 05:48.842 --> 05:49.682 [UNKNOWN]: Fast forward again. 05:49.742 --> 05:50.662 [UNKNOWN]: Get to seal team six. 05:50.722 --> 05:51.783 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, had to bend them. 05:52.795 --> 05:54.295 [UNKNOWN]: We have a command to story in, right? 05:54.455 --> 05:54.715 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 05:54.735 --> 05:55.155 [UNKNOWN]: Go in there. 05:55.215 --> 05:57.456 [UNKNOWN]: Like, hey, did we ever go in and tell you how I think? 05:57.476 --> 06:00.256 [UNKNOWN]: Like, wow, I ain't thinks the old team's six was even fucking developed yet. 06:00.296 --> 06:01.377 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh, that's a good point. 06:01.557 --> 06:01.817 [UNKNOWN]: Wow. 06:02.317 --> 06:05.377 [UNKNOWN]: And so this whole thing was a fucking lie. 06:05.757 --> 06:09.098 [UNKNOWN]: There was never team guys going into any aircraft guns. 06:09.618 --> 06:13.899 [UNKNOWN]: So that B111s can come in low because B111s will never come in low. 06:13.959 --> 06:16.960 [UNKNOWN]: Because I was gonna say that sounded a little fish. 06:17.120 --> 06:18.520 [UNKNOWN]: Let's get to a young kid. 06:19.160 --> 06:22.402 [UNKNOWN]: Was that a was he a seal you think you know, I think he's a total fraud. 06:22.582 --> 06:27.885 [UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh because maybe he'll support how many how many frauds how many frauds more than there are seals. 06:28.085 --> 06:31.126 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah That patch is Watson who is a famous Vietnam seal. 06:31.166 --> 06:41.532 [UNKNOWN]: I met him when I was going through sniper school as a new guy And I think he said something like yeah, we had like 50 of us who fought in Vietnam and I met all 30,000 of them Like there's yeah, that's very true. 06:41.552 --> 06:41.712 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah 06:42.272 --> 06:42.572 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:42.592 --> 06:44.292 [UNKNOWN]: So, some dude transferred to the tattoo. 06:44.432 --> 06:44.673 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:44.793 --> 06:45.033 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:45.293 --> 06:48.753 [UNKNOWN]: I pretty sure ran into a fake seal and in Buffalo this weekend too. 06:48.793 --> 06:51.134 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm to the I'm 50 years old now to two things I don't need. 06:52.074 --> 06:54.535 [UNKNOWN]: I don't need to get my ass kicked by someone who's lying about. 06:54.555 --> 06:55.195 [UNKNOWN]: It's up kid. 06:56.415 --> 06:58.736 [UNKNOWN]: No, I just, I'm kind of over that argument. 06:59.076 --> 06:59.296 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:59.576 --> 07:00.576 [UNKNOWN]: I was going to ask you how you handle it. 07:00.616 --> 07:08.838 [UNKNOWN]: Because the last time we were in Santa Barbara doing goplats, diving, training, going to goplat, training, and we're out at the bars. 07:10.836 --> 07:15.620 [UNKNOWN]: There's this table of women with one dude, and of course all my buddies are like, let's go talk to him, right? 07:15.640 --> 07:18.143 [UNKNOWN]: So we go over there and the girls are like, what do you guys do? 07:18.183 --> 07:20.685 [UNKNOWN]: We're lobster divers, and they're like, oh, you dive? 07:20.725 --> 07:24.048 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, yeah, scuba dive, don't know, whatever it takes to get lobster. 07:24.468 --> 07:26.210 [UNKNOWN]: And they're like, he dives? 07:26.550 --> 07:28.492 [UNKNOWN]: This guy's standing at the table with all these women. 07:28.512 --> 07:30.234 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're like, oh yeah, what are you doing? 07:30.294 --> 07:32.596 [UNKNOWN]: They're like, well, oh, boys talk about it. 07:33.640 --> 07:34.940 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm a Navy SEAL. 07:35.140 --> 07:36.441 [UNKNOWN]: Like what? 07:36.761 --> 07:38.441 [UNKNOWN]: You're a Navy SEAL, boy. 07:38.521 --> 07:40.621 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, yeah, yeah. 07:40.721 --> 07:41.742 [UNKNOWN]: Like what are you doing up here? 07:41.762 --> 07:44.542 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, well, they train us how to fly F-18. 07:44.602 --> 07:46.063 [UNKNOWN]: So damn, what team was he? 07:46.083 --> 07:46.943 [UNKNOWN]: He's guy went all the way. 07:46.983 --> 07:47.463 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 07:47.523 --> 07:49.643 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, in for penny, in for pound on this now. 07:49.683 --> 07:50.343 [UNKNOWN]: He's, right. 07:50.503 --> 07:53.924 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to fuck all 11 of these girls tonight. 07:53.964 --> 07:55.644 [UNKNOWN]: So you are a Navy SEAL. 07:55.804 --> 07:57.085 [UNKNOWN]: And you're going to be a fighter pilot. 07:57.165 --> 07:58.245 [UNKNOWN]: I know this is good. 07:58.645 --> 08:05.648 [UNKNOWN]: And so one of the guys Mark at the table pulls out his seal team three coin just slides It's a good way to do it. 08:05.708 --> 08:06.428 [UNKNOWN]: That's a good way to do it. 08:06.468 --> 08:07.769 [UNKNOWN]: My guy could fix it up. 08:08.289 --> 08:12.011 [UNKNOWN]: He looks both sides puts it down he slides it back to center and he goes fuck 08:12.953 --> 08:15.934 [UNKNOWN]: And then he turns around about face goes out the door and that was the end of him. 08:15.954 --> 08:19.216 [UNKNOWN]: That the best thing he could do now was the 20 minutes later. 08:19.616 --> 08:20.737 [UNKNOWN]: He comes back with his friends. 08:20.837 --> 08:21.697 [UNKNOWN]: No, he did not. 08:21.717 --> 08:23.598 [UNKNOWN]: Because he so humiliated, right? 08:23.798 --> 08:29.201 [UNKNOWN]: So they come back and it turns into a full on bar fight because this kid lies about being the seal. 08:29.221 --> 08:30.221 [UNKNOWN]: Of course, they all got their ass. 08:30.241 --> 08:31.762 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what did he tell his friends? 08:32.592 --> 08:33.453 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know. 08:33.713 --> 08:35.075 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a bad idea. 08:35.095 --> 08:35.475 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 08:35.495 --> 08:39.419 [UNKNOWN]: So it's like, hey, there's I was lying to chicks about being a kick-ass UFC fighter. 08:39.459 --> 08:40.560 [UNKNOWN]: All these heavy weights came in. 08:40.620 --> 08:41.361 [UNKNOWN]: Let's go fuck them up. 08:41.641 --> 08:42.182 [UNKNOWN]: It's like no. 08:42.622 --> 08:46.567 [UNKNOWN]: And the other time, this actually spawns memories when I was getting my pilot's license. 08:47.067 --> 08:48.669 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm up at Montgomery Field. 08:49.069 --> 08:51.472 [UNKNOWN]: I did the 30 day package. 08:51.492 --> 08:53.234 [UNKNOWN]: You just go nonstop twice a day. 08:53.834 --> 08:54.975 [UNKNOWN]: You're ground school and flights. 08:55.736 --> 08:57.017 [UNKNOWN]: smashed together, ready to go. 08:57.677 --> 08:59.998 [UNKNOWN]: And my flight instructor who is from afghanistan. 09:01.618 --> 09:03.399 [UNKNOWN]: And this is in San Diego. 09:03.619 --> 09:06.060 [UNKNOWN]: This is just before 9, 11. 09:06.080 --> 09:07.600 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's before 9, 11. 09:07.940 --> 09:09.281 [UNKNOWN]: And I can't. 09:09.301 --> 09:09.741 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 09:10.581 --> 09:13.682 [UNKNOWN]: So you're more involved in this. 09:14.383 --> 09:17.003 [UNKNOWN]: So this guy's like, hey, one of my students is a seal. 09:17.023 --> 09:18.024 [UNKNOWN]: He's going to be here today. 09:18.624 --> 09:19.124 [UNKNOWN]: And of course, 09:21.465 --> 09:38.707 [UNKNOWN]: See the same core here, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 09:40.378 --> 09:48.242 [UNKNOWN]: I'm a team three and of course he about faces and leaves. 09:48.282 --> 09:50.102 [UNKNOWN]: Well good, but this time there's no fighter. 09:50.603 --> 09:54.184 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what do you think the guy said to his friends before they came back to fight? 09:54.204 --> 09:56.785 [UNKNOWN]: Well, they didn't like to brawl or were they good? 09:57.005 --> 09:58.886 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, they didn't have a chance. 09:59.106 --> 09:59.506 [UNKNOWN]: That's funny. 09:59.746 --> 10:02.588 [UNKNOWN]: Well, you know the deal, like you see two or three of us. 10:02.628 --> 10:07.210 [UNKNOWN]: You have to assume there's an entire troop and or platoon depending on where you are in your career. 10:07.250 --> 10:07.470 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 10:08.410 --> 10:29.963 [UNKNOWN]: It could be 16 guys could be 22, but there's usually not just two or three of them and that's that's we had We had that happen at my wedding The rehearsal dinner we went across the streets, but I was with Kid Rock and but we're in we're in Cape Cod So there's it's weird story so he's we're at dinner, so because when Kid Rock is allowed to be in Cape Cod But he's kid cut. 10:30.123 --> 10:30.943 [UNKNOWN]: He's kid rocked them. 10:30.963 --> 10:32.864 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, true, so he's kid rock the fuck out of us. 10:32.884 --> 10:33.665 [UNKNOWN]: He looks like kid rock. 10:33.725 --> 10:33.945 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah 10:34.105 --> 10:38.327 [UNKNOWN]: And so these frat boys want to fight him as soon as we get in, but he doesn't know there's like nine seals with them. 10:38.607 --> 10:38.907 [UNKNOWN]: Oh wow. 10:38.987 --> 10:50.911 [UNKNOWN]: And so when like you're saying though the guys were like when the guys were talking shit and our guys are surrounding them it was funny because I knew the bounce your kid rocked in the bounce right and I look at the guy and go, hey, are we good in the bounce or big black guy go, so we good. 10:51.751 --> 10:55.453 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it's still like you're saying though, they're probably other dudes hovered did it ever go. 10:55.653 --> 10:56.513 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it went down for big time. 10:56.753 --> 11:02.235 [UNKNOWN]: My wife's boss pulled the plastic sword he got from the pirate museum on like it's not going to do anything, but it's a call. 11:02.575 --> 11:16.414 [UNKNOWN]: have you ever pulled up if you're a soldier or a fight technically yes yeah that's kind of cool it was plastic and you get dual swords so yeah so frank for frank for frank for you meet him and then ten and then you want then you want to go to buds from there but it's out of your abus fascinating 11:16.815 --> 11:28.579 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Saudi, um, interesting place to grow up in as a kid, because at the time it was the most radical, you know, Islamic state that there is, it still is totally, but it's like one up a little, I think in B.S. 11:28.599 --> 11:36.682 [UNKNOWN]: done a good job trying to westernize while also think in the elderly's happy because that's where the problem is not the younger Saudis, it's the older Saudi been around a while. 11:36.702 --> 11:37.803 [UNKNOWN]: The young guys, and even in B.S. 11:37.843 --> 11:44.546 [UNKNOWN]: is a young guy too, and with the power, the money, the way they can expand the global alliances, I think in B.S. 11:44.606 --> 11:50.629 [UNKNOWN]: is that stuff, too, in other countries, either on the money UAE left the OPEC, one of them wasn't ever in it, but that stuff's kind of like that. 11:50.989 --> 11:51.209 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 11:51.629 --> 11:57.272 [UNKNOWN]: If you, what, okay, that's a kid growing up there for me, it was kind of a paini-ass. 11:57.332 --> 12:03.715 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're not nice to Westerners, they really don't like you, and they don't want you there, majority of that population at the time in the 80s. 12:04.775 --> 12:06.016 [UNKNOWN]: You know, they didn't want anything to do with you. 12:06.176 --> 12:10.820 [UNKNOWN]: You know, they wanted to keep their, you know, it's the home of Mecca, right? 12:10.860 --> 12:13.082 [UNKNOWN]: So they don't want Western influence. 12:13.102 --> 12:14.023 [UNKNOWN]: They don't want you there. 12:14.283 --> 12:16.064 [UNKNOWN]: And so I was getting my ass kicked. 12:16.584 --> 12:19.807 [UNKNOWN]: You know, when I was eight years old, came back to the states for high school. 12:19.867 --> 12:26.432 [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, there was 20 year old Saudi men that just wanted to basically beat the shit out of us on a regular basis. 12:26.492 --> 12:29.214 [UNKNOWN]: And they're really good throwing their sandals or hitting you with their sandals. 12:29.254 --> 12:31.176 [UNKNOWN]: And it's like a, it's like an art form for them. 12:31.856 --> 12:33.357 [UNKNOWN]: And they're highly accurate with those things. 12:34.278 --> 12:35.078 [UNKNOWN]: And that's an insult to it. 12:35.098 --> 12:38.680 [UNKNOWN]: They would just be sandals and the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 12:38.720 --> 12:42.321 [UNKNOWN]: And what the soul's your soul's your feet, how long, how long were you in Saudi Arabia? 12:43.541 --> 12:45.162 [UNKNOWN]: I guess that came out to about eight years straight. 12:45.282 --> 12:45.522 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 12:45.562 --> 12:45.822 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 12:45.842 --> 12:46.362 [UNKNOWN]: Give her take. 12:46.683 --> 12:48.463 [UNKNOWN]: So out of end fighting quite a bit. 12:48.923 --> 12:49.624 [UNKNOWN]: Getting your ass kicked. 12:49.644 --> 12:50.584 [UNKNOWN]: Getting beat up by a group of, yeah. 12:50.824 --> 12:51.024 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 12:51.384 --> 12:55.946 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, and there was a couple of times where we pull in like thumbtacks out of our back. 12:55.966 --> 12:59.947 [UNKNOWN]: They were just once they got you down on the ground, they put little thumbtacks in your back. 13:00.508 --> 13:01.328 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're little kids. 13:02.329 --> 13:04.130 [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, there was other stuff. 13:04.150 --> 13:13.374 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, a really highly strict, you know, if you did anything, your dad is responsible, you know, that country, yeah, any member of a family does anything wrong, the father pays the price. 13:13.454 --> 13:14.114 [UNKNOWN]: That's the culture. 13:15.174 --> 13:16.975 [UNKNOWN]: And that includes expats. 13:16.995 --> 13:21.517 [UNKNOWN]: So you always had to think about that like, oh, my dad might end up being the one pulled in. 13:21.717 --> 13:22.878 [UNKNOWN]: And I'll give you a great example. 13:22.898 --> 13:24.598 [UNKNOWN]: I've gotten this brand new dive knife. 13:24.918 --> 13:27.880 [UNKNOWN]: It was like, still at a double-bladed pointy, like a dagger. 13:28.860 --> 13:35.906 [UNKNOWN]: And we were going up to Korea Beach, which is on the Persian Gulf side as a school trip to the beach or something like that. 13:36.786 --> 13:44.332 [UNKNOWN]: And I had this brand new dive knife and my buddy sitting next to me, I had it out and of course I just went like this. 13:44.692 --> 13:45.893 [UNKNOWN]: It's a little juke with it. 13:46.053 --> 13:47.875 [UNKNOWN]: And the air just didn't like that motion. 13:48.755 --> 13:54.380 [UNKNOWN]: And this kid reflexes shoves his hand all the way through the knife, right? 13:54.420 --> 13:55.641 [UNKNOWN]: The whole his whole hand, 13:56.450 --> 14:02.092 [UNKNOWN]: comes up in between his index finger and his middle knuckle and comes out the blade comes out his palm. 14:02.292 --> 14:03.152 [UNKNOWN]: Hold it. 14:03.172 --> 14:03.893 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 14:04.033 --> 14:05.373 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's an issue now. 14:05.533 --> 14:10.115 [UNKNOWN]: So now he pulls it off, starts bleeding like crazy, you know, and now turns into this huge issue. 14:10.275 --> 14:11.515 [UNKNOWN]: My dad gets pulled in. 14:11.535 --> 14:15.877 [UNKNOWN]: We're like, I was like, holy crab because it got labeled a knife fight and it wasn't. 14:15.897 --> 14:20.679 [UNKNOWN]: It was just me being an idiot going like that and then coming up and slam this hand against the point. 14:20.919 --> 14:21.939 [UNKNOWN]: And yeah. 14:21.979 --> 14:24.040 [UNKNOWN]: So that turned into almost getting deported. 14:25.100 --> 14:38.350 [UNKNOWN]: There was another time when they have like diplomatic immunity like we do here for a lot of the foreigners no If you're if you work for the embassy or consulates, yeah, but not not okay, okay, but they like if you stole something with a cut his hand off 14:39.542 --> 14:45.503 [UNKNOWN]: Yo, yeah, his hand though, they would they would cut well for theft and like actual crime. 14:46.504 --> 14:52.625 [UNKNOWN]: They usually take that will go, you know, the father will pay the price in some form, but the person who does it gets their hand cut. 14:52.725 --> 14:53.685 [UNKNOWN]: That's the same. 14:54.125 --> 15:07.168 [UNKNOWN]: Actually, the most recent one, just a couple of years ago, there was a golf tournament over there and one of the golfers had their club stolen by the security guards kid and then with them, within a month or so, that kid's hand was taken, you know. 15:08.233 --> 15:12.775 [UNKNOWN]: So they still do it, and they actively, you just don't hear about it. 15:12.795 --> 15:13.915 [UNKNOWN]: You know, they're good at keeping stuff. 15:13.935 --> 15:18.536 [UNKNOWN]: For good reason, yeah, they, uh, what's the process? 15:18.556 --> 15:20.717 [UNKNOWN]: Like anesthesia or do they just shot that fucker off? 15:20.997 --> 15:25.919 [UNKNOWN]: What I heard when I was a kid is, yeah, it's just chopped and then straight into a valet oil to coderize it. 15:29.040 --> 15:32.623 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's no they're not a really real upside. 15:32.703 --> 15:37.788 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to cut and then shit out of you and then yeah, and then medical attention Everything because I remember seeing that's quite a punishment. 15:37.948 --> 15:45.535 [UNKNOWN]: I remember seeing Saudis walking around Mr. Lambs and stuff and you could tell like the end of it gets that like this colored white almost because they're tan, right? 15:46.255 --> 15:50.399 [UNKNOWN]: So as if it's a burn, you know, but that's a hell of a punishment. 15:50.679 --> 15:53.482 [UNKNOWN]: What's the what is the effect that has on the crime rate? 15:54.365 --> 15:57.107 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, there's no crime, there there is a lot of it. 15:57.127 --> 15:58.829 [UNKNOWN]: So you mean they don't just do no cash, but let them go. 15:59.729 --> 16:02.892 [UNKNOWN]: Wow, it almost sounds like if someone did that, that would turn into chaos. 16:03.092 --> 16:03.772 [UNKNOWN]: I know, man. 16:04.073 --> 16:11.859 [UNKNOWN]: Almost like plants there is some conservative values that we could, I think we used to have. 16:11.939 --> 16:12.279 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 16:12.299 --> 16:21.867 [UNKNOWN]: We don't anymore, but it's crazy when I hear stuff like queer's for Palestine because a lot of these retards don't know how far right the Muslims are. 16:22.567 --> 16:48.644 [UNKNOWN]: these are very conservative people yeah you don't blow yourself up for God because you are pro abortion right you know yeah yeah you're going to paradise it's almost like like when people say that this guy came over and he just was acting crazy you know he wasn't acting crazy at all he was acting the way he was raised yeah yeah he's he was very in tune it's all I know any look at opportunity that's worried but everything falls into that little very small window of opportunity what opportunities do they have outside of their religion 16:49.204 --> 16:49.424 [UNKNOWN]: Nothing. 16:49.684 --> 16:50.104 [UNKNOWN]: Not much. 16:50.644 --> 16:56.106 [UNKNOWN]: So, of course, they're going to be devout and they're going to move forward with it in the way that they've been taught since they were born. 16:56.346 --> 16:56.926 [UNKNOWN]: You know? 16:56.946 --> 16:58.086 [UNKNOWN]: They were born, yeah. 16:58.126 --> 17:07.229 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you even see some of the cartoons that came out of Gaza and stuff like that with their Sesame Street is the muppets are cutting the heads off of other muppets. 17:07.589 --> 17:07.789 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 17:07.929 --> 17:08.389 [UNKNOWN]: That's bad. 17:08.649 --> 17:09.870 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, I mean, and I'm not. 17:10.170 --> 17:10.570 [UNKNOWN]: That's weird. 17:11.370 --> 17:18.555 [UNKNOWN]: You only know what you're taught, and this goes for any race or religion, baby rats don't grow up to be bunny rabbits. 17:18.836 --> 17:23.039 [UNKNOWN]: So if you teach your kids shit, they're going to be shit growing up, and I don't care what you look like, that's right. 17:23.259 --> 17:27.902 [UNKNOWN]: And if you teach them, Jews are bad, or teach them, muslims are bad, or teach them Christians, like they're going to go to hate it then. 17:28.022 --> 17:30.704 [UNKNOWN]: I think, well, it's that passion piece that I'm sure you've noticed. 17:30.724 --> 17:37.409 [UNKNOWN]: You've, whether it's Afghanistan or Iraq, and you see that eight-year-old kid on the side, looking at us, for assholes, we're just what? 17:37.449 --> 17:40.592 [UNKNOWN]: We are assholes, you know, and now you're going to grow up hating us, 17:41.052 --> 17:47.214 [UNKNOWN]: When I used to get pissed as a young seal when the left would say, well, if you kill a terrorist, you just make more terrorists. 17:47.234 --> 17:47.674 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't buy that. 17:47.694 --> 17:48.214 [UNKNOWN]: I buy it now. 17:48.734 --> 17:52.435 [UNKNOWN]: If I've killed dudes in front of their kids, those three kids are now terrorists. 17:53.015 --> 17:53.235 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 17:53.375 --> 17:54.176 [UNKNOWN]: Or they don't like me. 17:54.316 --> 17:57.577 [UNKNOWN]: Or whatever my version of a terrorist did, well, I mean, someone comes and kills my dad. 17:57.637 --> 17:58.557 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not a terrorist anymore. 17:59.057 --> 17:59.317 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 17:59.377 --> 18:00.397 [UNKNOWN]: I can, yeah, shit. 18:00.417 --> 18:01.438 [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna get better. 18:01.558 --> 18:01.858 [UNKNOWN]: I know. 18:02.218 --> 18:02.418 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 18:02.658 --> 18:03.978 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of lessons learned out of all that. 18:04.038 --> 18:04.438 [UNKNOWN]: The same. 18:04.599 --> 18:05.739 [UNKNOWN]: But y'all got these interesting. 18:05.899 --> 18:07.879 [UNKNOWN]: I look at Saturday like the opposite of Switzerland. 18:07.899 --> 18:09.640 [UNKNOWN]: I feel like we need to watch them more carefully. 18:09.680 --> 18:11.500 [UNKNOWN]: I think sometimes they get a pass. 18:11.680 --> 18:16.722 [UNKNOWN]: But my two senses when you are in everybody's back pocket, and everybody is in yours. 18:17.242 --> 18:17.542 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 18:17.582 --> 18:19.723 [UNKNOWN]: And it's some worth watching. 18:20.163 --> 18:22.483 [UNKNOWN]: You know, they own 10% of Chinese oil. 18:22.523 --> 18:26.164 [UNKNOWN]: They've got, they've got their hands in everybody's stuff. 18:26.204 --> 18:26.404 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 18:26.965 --> 18:27.445 [UNKNOWN]: What is that? 18:29.423 --> 18:32.529 [UNKNOWN]: There's vested interest in oil, obviously. 18:32.749 --> 18:35.334 [UNKNOWN]: We were talking rabbit holes earlier too, is that yeah. 18:35.495 --> 18:38.260 [UNKNOWN]: How's it gonna affect them when we find out how much oil is actually in Alaska? 18:38.880 --> 18:40.902 [UNKNOWN]: and that oil's not rare, and it's not a fossil fuel. 18:41.322 --> 18:44.285 [UNKNOWN]: And well, the bigger myth, right, is hey, we're gonna run out. 18:44.365 --> 18:45.647 [UNKNOWN]: The earth is gonna run out. 18:45.807 --> 18:48.890 [UNKNOWN]: The earth's gonna magically stop producing oil at some point. 18:48.930 --> 18:52.353 [UNKNOWN]: Well, how could we, when there were so many dinosaurs that all came from? 18:52.434 --> 18:54.476 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I saw some of my pajamas. 18:54.536 --> 18:55.276 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 18:55.316 --> 18:57.899 [UNKNOWN]: So like, I pay a day bucks a gallon for diesel on a good day. 18:58.159 --> 18:59.340 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, learning that is a kid. 18:59.481 --> 19:02.003 [UNKNOWN]: Like oil is just dinosaurs, you know, it's like what? 19:02.464 --> 19:02.624 [UNKNOWN]: What? 19:03.024 --> 19:09.986 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you think someone had a conversation like do we tell them dinners or real or Santa's not real Which but they just went with them? 19:10.006 --> 19:10.766 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know which one. 19:11.027 --> 19:21.990 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm just kind of which Santa was real Santa made everything better, right and you know speaking to Coca-Cola That's the reason that he wears red now because they so co-can market he was green before 19:22.877 --> 19:23.137 [UNKNOWN]: Really? 19:23.157 --> 19:25.880 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how's that for learning shit on the operator point, can't you? 19:26.260 --> 19:26.761 [UNKNOWN]: Santa Claus. 19:26.781 --> 19:28.062 [UNKNOWN]: Because he was a green dude. 19:28.182 --> 19:29.684 [UNKNOWN]: Green is, like, too close to the Grinch. 19:30.104 --> 19:30.264 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 19:30.605 --> 19:31.005 [UNKNOWN]: Good point. 19:31.866 --> 19:37.852 [UNKNOWN]: After Saudi Arabia, you met their dude in Frankfurt, but then you moved, you said, I'm in erupting the shit. 19:37.912 --> 19:38.232 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 19:38.272 --> 19:43.438 [UNKNOWN]: So we finished out our time in Saudi, and during that time I went and got Patty certified. 19:43.918 --> 19:47.182 [UNKNOWN]: in Cuba, like whatever the minimum age I think is 12. 19:47.903 --> 19:56.994 [UNKNOWN]: So I got certified in all that stuff over there, came back to the States once high school and then went to college and then just had to join. 19:57.295 --> 19:58.156 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I'd had that. 19:58.196 --> 19:59.497 [UNKNOWN]: It was the fun too long. 19:59.718 --> 20:00.959 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was like time to go. 20:01.300 --> 20:02.942 [UNKNOWN]: What were you doing to prep for Buds? 20:04.648 --> 20:05.768 [UNKNOWN]: Well, I got lucky. 20:05.788 --> 20:12.930 [UNKNOWN]: I ran in, I met a guy, you probably, you may know Rick and Strum and Brian Chestnut. 20:13.330 --> 20:13.870 [UNKNOWN]: I don't check that out. 20:13.890 --> 20:15.070 [UNKNOWN]: They're two or in Houston. 20:15.751 --> 20:16.291 [UNKNOWN]: I was in Houston. 20:16.311 --> 20:18.391 [UNKNOWN]: Chestnut name really stands up for some reason. 20:18.631 --> 20:19.111 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 20:19.171 --> 20:21.832 [UNKNOWN]: No, it's all, like, really good energy's coming to mind. 20:21.872 --> 20:22.212 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 20:22.432 --> 20:24.513 [UNKNOWN]: He's kind of a jolly good guy. 20:24.613 --> 20:25.933 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know him well, but it's something good. 20:25.993 --> 20:27.293 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, here's the time. 20:27.313 --> 20:28.434 [UNKNOWN]: He dropped out. 20:28.494 --> 20:34.135 [UNKNOWN]: I think he was at UT, El Paso, and he was like a linebacker or something, and then I met him because he was friends with Rick 20:34.995 --> 20:36.596 [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, the three I'm here. 20:36.656 --> 20:37.396 [UNKNOWN]: I am this young. 20:37.416 --> 20:57.382 [UNKNOWN]: They're like four or five years ahead of me and I'm this young kid It's like I want to go to buzz and I heard you guys went anyway and then we all ended up motivating each other and they ended up You know, coming back in early's Rick Rick had already been in and then me and Brian were the new guys right to the Navy We go to boot camp go to end up in Buds class 203. 20:57.482 --> 20:57.762 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 20:57.902 --> 20:59.163 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah show up and 21:00.443 --> 21:01.684 [UNKNOWN]: You know, you get your ass handed to you. 21:01.724 --> 21:02.345 [UNKNOWN]: What are you going to do? 21:02.425 --> 21:07.909 [UNKNOWN]: Was there anything to, was anything shocking or surprising, because were you ready for it or not? 21:07.949 --> 21:11.792 [UNKNOWN]: I felt like I had at least a little bit of a head start having an eyewitness like Rick. 21:12.192 --> 21:14.914 [UNKNOWN]: I could say, yeah, I mean, you just need to be good at pushups. 21:15.214 --> 21:16.275 [UNKNOWN]: All the body weight stuff. 21:16.295 --> 21:18.297 [UNKNOWN]: He was the first one to say, don't come on the weight room. 21:18.837 --> 21:25.502 [UNKNOWN]: you're just going to give yourself injuries, and if there's any place in injury is going to pop up, it's in but and it's going to stick there. 21:25.522 --> 21:27.003 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, someone's going to get worse. 21:27.124 --> 21:29.626 [UNKNOWN]: And so I think a lot of good is good because of that shit. 21:29.646 --> 21:33.408 [UNKNOWN]: It's not that that's hard, which it is like over this fucking pain to get a tweak. 21:33.849 --> 21:35.930 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, that's over. 21:36.031 --> 21:38.733 [UNKNOWN]: That's a good point too, because mindset pretty much is everything in life. 21:39.213 --> 21:41.975 [UNKNOWN]: And if you go into buzz afraid, it's a bad thing. 21:42.676 --> 21:44.017 [UNKNOWN]: It's good to know someone who'd made it through. 21:44.437 --> 21:48.999 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I had an instructor tell him he got to hell week, but he knew enough. 21:49.299 --> 21:49.799 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 21:49.939 --> 21:50.339 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 21:50.360 --> 21:51.140 [UNKNOWN]: That's why he was out. 21:51.960 --> 22:03.245 [UNKNOWN]: You know with me and now we're back in and it was awesome because you know basically Rick is like a pseudo mentor while before I went in and then he's like well, I'm gonna go do it again. 22:03.265 --> 22:03.545 [UNKNOWN]: It was like 22:04.405 --> 22:06.487 [UNKNOWN]: I missed that part so he's going through to get okay. 22:06.567 --> 22:06.767 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 22:06.787 --> 22:06.987 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 22:07.207 --> 22:22.456 [UNKNOWN]: So now my now my mentors now with me And so we we're in same buds class and everything together and fucking it was It was Buds you get your ass hand it, but I was glad I push-ups pull ups You know core work swimming and running. 22:22.476 --> 22:25.158 [UNKNOWN]: That's all you pull ups and pull ups pull ups pull ups. 22:25.178 --> 22:25.418 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah 22:26.779 --> 22:28.079 [UNKNOWN]: I had a horrible time pull-ups. 22:28.099 --> 22:28.920 [UNKNOWN]: I was in remediation. 22:28.940 --> 22:32.622 [UNKNOWN]: I thought that that's one of the reasons I get dropped couldn't the pull-ups. 22:32.722 --> 22:34.242 [UNKNOWN]: I obviously couldn't swim for shit. 22:34.322 --> 22:34.583 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 22:35.483 --> 22:39.645 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to tell you right now about BlueTube because I tell you about them every week. 22:40.005 --> 22:42.167 [UNKNOWN]: Listen up guys, what do women want? 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28:58.194 --> 28:59.215 [UNKNOWN]: No, well, then you made it right. 28:59.255 --> 28:59.736 [UNKNOWN]: I guess so. 28:59.936 --> 29:00.597 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, somehow. 29:01.197 --> 29:02.158 [UNKNOWN]: What did you do really good at? 29:02.178 --> 29:02.719 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 29:04.020 --> 29:05.422 [UNKNOWN]: I was going to show it up on time. 29:05.482 --> 29:05.942 [UNKNOWN]: Sometimes. 29:06.002 --> 29:06.222 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 29:06.523 --> 29:07.404 [UNKNOWN]: Show up on time. 29:07.424 --> 29:10.046 [UNKNOWN]: And I definitely, I was mid-pack guy. 29:10.627 --> 29:16.573 [UNKNOWN]: I remember, I remember, you know what really kind of caught me onto it was, uh, room inspections. 29:17.300 --> 29:19.683 [UNKNOWN]: Because that's the only sort of realized way. 29:19.703 --> 29:22.085 [UNKNOWN]: These instructors are just seals that are on shortage right now. 29:22.846 --> 29:24.968 [UNKNOWN]: And they're going to hammer you because they got hammered. 29:25.028 --> 29:26.930 [UNKNOWN]: If I can entertain them somehow. 29:27.965 --> 29:41.949 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so we started putting like power bars on the horizontal surfaces and like gun mags is open and like we had the music playing and I remember like nine instructors and they're like we're so fucked and he goes who's stereos at like Well, it's mine and structure songs is like well, that's way too. 29:42.209 --> 29:43.530 [UNKNOWN]: That's not loud enough for two pockets. 29:43.570 --> 29:44.330 [UNKNOWN]: It turns out like okay. 29:44.350 --> 29:50.251 [UNKNOWN]: This is going well But like you do the realization I think that once you snap out of this is just a place that you can make it through. 29:50.692 --> 29:51.812 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that would help I think do you think 29:52.962 --> 29:56.443 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, not really, but no, it's hard. 29:56.483 --> 29:56.824 [UNKNOWN]: It's fun. 29:56.884 --> 29:58.964 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the bribery was part of the game though. 29:59.024 --> 30:00.665 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, everyone was doing it. 30:00.685 --> 30:09.769 [UNKNOWN]: You could have like a refrigerator stock with something that you thought the instructors like logs of course of Copenhagen was the big one because that's valuable. 30:09.849 --> 30:15.071 [UNKNOWN]: But it gets you on their good side, but you're still going to surf zone and you're freshly start screens. 30:15.471 --> 30:15.871 [UNKNOWN]: That's true. 30:16.051 --> 30:17.072 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you pretty much every time. 30:17.872 --> 30:20.797 [UNKNOWN]: But if you get busted, they can kick you out too. 30:21.157 --> 30:23.641 [UNKNOWN]: Almost so bribing to the point, if I wasn't bribing, he was just full. 30:24.282 --> 30:25.564 [UNKNOWN]: I had a play to fresco you to be. 30:25.584 --> 30:27.306 [UNKNOWN]: I was still steaming when you'd be. 30:27.326 --> 30:27.487 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 30:27.547 --> 30:27.727 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 30:27.787 --> 30:28.007 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 30:28.228 --> 30:28.989 [UNKNOWN]: Hell week then, um... 30:29.912 --> 30:32.355 [UNKNOWN]: Hell week, uh, man, what a blur, right? 30:32.655 --> 30:39.482 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I remember like getting to Wednesday and then after that, man, just you're clinically insane, you know, when's the week deprivation? 30:39.562 --> 30:43.707 [UNKNOWN]: And so, um, you still remember your book, Kristian touches them? 30:44.848 --> 30:48.972 [UNKNOWN]: I just went out for class 203, 30 year-old. 30:48.992 --> 30:49.853 [UNKNOWN]: Scott Paget was there. 30:50.534 --> 30:50.774 [UNKNOWN]: Was he? 30:50.974 --> 30:51.175 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 30:51.675 --> 30:53.418 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, J Redmond Scott page it. 30:53.578 --> 30:55.821 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's how I knew you're oh two of two. 30:55.841 --> 30:57.944 [UNKNOWN]: Two of you're talking no 200. 30:58.004 --> 31:05.054 [UNKNOWN]: You're talking to him She even it's page it was like I think my best class and in one 70 I mean, okay, no, he told me about a 30 year reunion. 31:05.074 --> 31:08.619 [UNKNOWN]: I assume that was it could Jay or right before us okay in 203 we just had hours 31:09.582 --> 31:17.647 [UNKNOWN]: We had ensued the boat crew, actually, the three of us that are left, all ended up at the command. 31:17.888 --> 31:18.168 [UNKNOWN]: Really? 31:18.368 --> 31:21.050 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so it was that Jeff Hill? 31:21.290 --> 31:21.750 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 31:22.811 --> 31:23.351 [UNKNOWN]: Great guy. 31:23.551 --> 31:25.653 [UNKNOWN]: And, uh, was it ship? 31:26.959 --> 31:27.279 [UNKNOWN]: Goodman. 31:27.499 --> 31:27.719 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 31:27.879 --> 31:29.100 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's cool. 31:29.160 --> 31:29.340 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 31:29.840 --> 31:32.501 [UNKNOWN]: I ended up there with one other guy. 31:32.681 --> 31:36.262 [UNKNOWN]: Do other guys one guy went to blue one guy to red with me one guy there. 31:36.342 --> 31:45.285 [UNKNOWN]: I went through hell week with I don't want to say his name yet No, I just I think he'd try to 30 but stud so good You know how you promote yourself out of a job. 31:45.545 --> 31:52.127 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he got promoted to senior chief at red squad So he had a leave for a little bit to come back to true cheap but during that little time guess what he missed 31:53.067 --> 31:53.668 [UNKNOWN]: been lottery. 31:53.968 --> 31:54.468 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, bummer. 31:54.548 --> 31:55.729 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that sucks. 31:56.129 --> 31:56.830 [UNKNOWN]: No, that sucks. 31:56.870 --> 31:57.430 [UNKNOWN]: It's just a stud. 31:57.670 --> 31:58.591 [UNKNOWN]: But I have good book. 31:58.611 --> 32:02.494 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, hell week, they'll go through with those dudes and I, you know, no, actually, yeah, I talked to Wojo. 32:02.514 --> 32:04.475 [UNKNOWN]: I don't really say his name yet, but I talked to him today, I think. 32:04.975 --> 32:05.495 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah. 32:05.636 --> 32:06.596 [UNKNOWN]: Hell week is something though. 32:07.057 --> 32:07.257 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 32:07.277 --> 32:09.418 [UNKNOWN]: Anything to add out of just make it to Wednesday or anything. 32:09.438 --> 32:12.980 [UNKNOWN]: I just remember the hallucinations, you know, when it's time to do around the world. 32:13.261 --> 32:14.581 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's rattling. 32:14.642 --> 32:19.465 [UNKNOWN]: The marine layer was in the shapes of like, like almost like evil cranes. 32:19.485 --> 32:20.846 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I remember just ducking, 32:21.526 --> 32:22.487 [UNKNOWN]: You know, like you're paddling. 32:22.507 --> 32:27.770 [UNKNOWN]: I do whole time because it feels like it's just coming down on you and you see dinosaur or I don't know. 32:27.830 --> 32:30.511 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't know kind of drag it on a carrier that wasn't there. 32:31.171 --> 32:39.396 [UNKNOWN]: It almost, you know what it felt like was when you if you go to Vegas in the Venetian, if you go inside and they have the fake ceiling with the clouds and shit, that's kind of what it felt like. 32:39.416 --> 32:40.957 [UNKNOWN]: That's, I mean, I'm just on a saying. 32:40.977 --> 32:41.337 [UNKNOWN]: That's good. 32:41.637 --> 32:42.718 [UNKNOWN]: And then how they secure you guys? 32:42.798 --> 32:44.659 [UNKNOWN]: Is anything, anything happened crazy? 32:44.679 --> 32:46.040 [UNKNOWN]: You're just, you're done. 32:46.828 --> 32:47.649 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't remember. 32:47.790 --> 32:51.655 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, towards the end of it, we didn't even have anybody special to secure us. 32:51.976 --> 32:53.197 [UNKNOWN]: And I was just like, all right, you're done. 32:53.237 --> 32:56.342 [UNKNOWN]: And I remember my parents came out. 32:56.723 --> 32:58.245 [UNKNOWN]: I remember my mom just like, 32:59.485 --> 33:01.187 [UNKNOWN]: What the fuck did they do to you? 33:01.207 --> 33:02.968 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just like, mom, she's gonna go in. 33:03.369 --> 33:05.210 [UNKNOWN]: No, you don't fucking do this to my baby. 33:05.270 --> 33:10.696 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just probably, I mean, my mom was a different breed, but she lost her shit when she saw it. 33:10.716 --> 33:12.157 [UNKNOWN]: They were feeding it and broken. 33:12.177 --> 33:15.820 [UNKNOWN]: And that's, you know, your thighs are the same diameter of the ankle. 33:15.840 --> 33:16.641 [UNKNOWN]: Everything's bleeding. 33:16.841 --> 33:19.664 [UNKNOWN]: You're elbows and your wrists are the same diameters, your shoulders. 33:19.704 --> 33:23.007 [UNKNOWN]: And I mean, yeah, all my fingernails and all my toenails are gone. 33:23.027 --> 33:23.868 [UNKNOWN]: Remember that? 33:24.128 --> 33:34.658 [UNKNOWN]: I remember when they gave me instead of a handful of petroleum jelly to put on your hell weakness, the gave me a tube of it and a huge gator and they said, go to sleep and I asked them when hell was going to start up again. 33:35.439 --> 33:36.259 [UNKNOWN]: And my parents were there too. 33:36.279 --> 33:38.602 [UNKNOWN]: I don't remember them at all, but I picture of it. 33:38.622 --> 33:38.842 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 33:39.322 --> 33:44.185 [UNKNOWN]: They took me to like an eye hop and I remember eating like four plate separate meals. 33:44.205 --> 33:46.026 [UNKNOWN]: We went to Marie County for that of the street. 33:46.166 --> 33:46.726 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 33:47.026 --> 33:48.287 [UNKNOWN]: Well, maybe it was Marie County. 33:48.307 --> 33:49.007 [UNKNOWN]: They did a good defense. 33:49.027 --> 33:49.127 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 33:49.147 --> 33:52.209 [UNKNOWN]: I was going to say what did your helmet get, but I think I should end on Friday. 33:52.229 --> 33:53.130 [UNKNOWN]: The first it didn't. 33:53.210 --> 33:53.650 [UNKNOWN]: That's bad. 33:53.690 --> 33:56.191 [UNKNOWN]: Remember the foot locker or the shoe place? 33:56.271 --> 33:56.491 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 33:56.551 --> 33:57.212 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 33:57.252 --> 34:01.194 [UNKNOWN]: But first, because my feet were like two sizes too big, because they were so swollen. 34:01.794 --> 34:02.255 [UNKNOWN]: Bottom. 34:03.615 --> 34:03.976 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 34:04.016 --> 34:04.596 [UNKNOWN]: For a constant baby. 34:04.616 --> 34:04.876 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 34:04.916 --> 34:05.217 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe. 34:05.277 --> 34:05.697 [UNKNOWN]: Tivas. 34:05.937 --> 34:07.738 [UNKNOWN]: And then went to Marie counters in the forward. 34:07.879 --> 34:08.939 [UNKNOWN]: I think I did exactly that. 34:08.979 --> 34:09.119 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 34:09.600 --> 34:10.601 [UNKNOWN]: Four separate meals. 34:11.041 --> 34:17.706 [UNKNOWN]: You know there was a class after us in the 230's ish that secured hell week on Wednesday. 34:18.987 --> 34:19.087 [UNKNOWN]: Why? 34:19.107 --> 34:20.388 [UNKNOWN]: Because so many people are quitting or something. 34:20.448 --> 34:23.951 [UNKNOWN]: There was a rumor going around that they were going to secure hell week on Wednesday. 34:23.991 --> 34:28.174 [UNKNOWN]: And like the exo or some shit said it's secured now or some stupid stupid. 34:28.314 --> 34:29.955 [UNKNOWN]: I had three of those guys in my fourth puttune. 34:30.395 --> 34:30.756 [UNKNOWN]: Huh. 34:33.444 --> 34:36.125 [UNKNOWN]: I got to find out, but I mean, people had to have been to him. 34:36.145 --> 34:36.605 [UNKNOWN]: I was something. 34:36.625 --> 34:37.346 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to talk to you a guy. 34:37.366 --> 34:39.127 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying his name, but he knows that he knows who he is. 34:39.727 --> 34:40.287 [UNKNOWN]: And he's out. 34:40.347 --> 34:41.628 [UNKNOWN]: And he's what I say to him. 34:41.668 --> 34:42.488 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe she's not at all. 34:42.608 --> 34:43.168 [UNKNOWN]: Not at all. 34:43.228 --> 34:43.849 [UNKNOWN]: Not at all. 34:43.989 --> 34:44.869 [UNKNOWN]: You're good. 34:44.889 --> 34:45.629 [UNKNOWN]: I promise. 34:45.689 --> 34:47.030 [UNKNOWN]: If they were, I'd say something. 34:47.430 --> 34:48.210 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, they secured. 34:48.250 --> 34:48.971 [UNKNOWN]: So what we did with them. 34:48.991 --> 34:53.393 [UNKNOWN]: So they were also the class that, one of the first for SQT, seal qualification training. 34:53.473 --> 34:55.754 [UNKNOWN]: So they get, so remember, we used to check in without a try. 34:55.774 --> 34:56.954 [UNKNOWN]: That you earned it from Repetune. 34:56.994 --> 34:57.394 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 34:57.414 --> 34:58.195 [UNKNOWN]: Tune, she gives it to me. 34:58.915 --> 35:12.284 [UNKNOWN]: We precisely, but these guys show up and then we found out about Wednesday all week and like okay give me your tried is now We put them in a cage like a bird cage You're gonna earn these you're gonna re-earn them Technically you're 50 to 26, but you're not wearing like the red picture Yeah, yeah, so we did that. 35:12.364 --> 35:17.308 [UNKNOWN]: It was good, but that's turned out to be very solid fucking do's that's cool But yeah, but Wednesday is kind of a 35:18.137 --> 35:33.511 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, everything shuts off and I don't remember the parts and peas when they make you, you know, the sun's coming up and they make you hold the paddles over your buddies, your swim piece face and you're falling asleep and you're hitting each other to keep each other awake right if we're, we both had a paddle right now yours would be right here. 35:34.832 --> 35:41.096 [UNKNOWN]: Were you guys convinced that the instructors when you were eating were filling the bolts full of sand that you were carrying because they can't be this heavy without sand? 35:41.196 --> 35:43.457 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah, they weren't just boats got heavy. 35:43.477 --> 35:43.898 [UNKNOWN]: They were heavy. 35:43.918 --> 35:44.858 [UNKNOWN]: So why this heavy? 35:44.878 --> 35:47.020 [UNKNOWN]: It's like you've been carrying them for five fucking days, bro. 35:47.260 --> 35:48.240 [UNKNOWN]: On your head, why are you bald? 35:48.321 --> 35:48.881 [UNKNOWN]: Same reason? 35:48.941 --> 35:49.701 [UNKNOWN]: Everything hurts. 35:50.182 --> 35:50.482 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 35:50.822 --> 35:55.545 [UNKNOWN]: And then, uh, what was the other one that I hated the, uh, the 5.5 mile swim? 35:56.486 --> 35:56.706 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 35:56.866 --> 35:59.208 [UNKNOWN]: Were you a sort of, uh, not really. 35:59.428 --> 36:00.109 [UNKNOWN]: I was mid-packed. 36:00.309 --> 36:00.509 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 36:00.529 --> 36:01.069 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 36:01.089 --> 36:02.891 [UNKNOWN]: I was into the pack once we got longer swims. 36:03.111 --> 36:05.572 [UNKNOWN]: That's where that's where my real weakness showed up for sure. 36:05.833 --> 36:07.814 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but it's all about the swim buddy. 36:08.134 --> 36:10.476 [UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, that's why I passed Buds because of Monty Sheriff. 36:10.496 --> 36:13.578 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're with a, yeah, you're with somebody fast and you'll be fast. 36:13.698 --> 36:15.700 [UNKNOWN]: If you're with someone who knows how to guide, right? 36:15.720 --> 36:17.022 [UNKNOWN]: If you just want to stray, you're fine. 36:17.062 --> 36:19.624 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, zig-zag, you're not going to make the time. 36:20.225 --> 36:23.048 [UNKNOWN]: People don't admit this though, but a lot of guys were afraid of sharks and everybody. 36:24.013 --> 36:24.833 [UNKNOWN]: I never really thought about it. 36:24.853 --> 36:34.716 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's because having gotten my dive certification so young and diving in the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea, I'd already seen sharks on the Red Sea side of Saudi. 36:34.736 --> 36:35.696 [UNKNOWN]: It was tigers out there. 36:35.836 --> 36:36.156 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah. 36:36.416 --> 36:38.176 [UNKNOWN]: And you just, and actually they're feeding out there. 36:38.496 --> 36:42.317 [UNKNOWN]: Because they chummed the shit out of that water with camels and beef in the beaches. 36:42.377 --> 36:50.919 [UNKNOWN]: You could walk about a quarter mile off out and it's still up to your waist and then just drop three, four hundred feet and it's the most beautiful wall with a four-year-old senior oil. 36:50.999 --> 36:52.420 [UNKNOWN]: And so you just free-flat, you know, 36:54.220 --> 37:04.030 [UNKNOWN]: looking at him, I remember, I had an adult dive buddy and hit me on the shoulder and he was already turned around up against the, so I turned around. 37:04.050 --> 37:11.096 [UNKNOWN]: There was, you know, there was sharks just circling out there, just right in front of us and I was like, oh, I was like 13 years all. 37:11.116 --> 37:12.558 [UNKNOWN]: What the fuck am I doing? 37:13.438 --> 37:38.394 [UNKNOWN]: I think Hollywood screwed us like they do a lot with jaws because I don't I've been with great whites I've seen I can count 33 different great whites I've seen and they're just quiet really yeah I agree no no I'm purpose sorry no no I don't know how many have seen us I didn't I saw I think one at night one it's that coming out and that's it no but I've been seeing them like afterwards these things are just I'm convinced that if you get a bit by 37:41.014 --> 37:46.375 [UNKNOWN]: Well, there's a rumor that the Drager, the sound of the Drager is what keeps them all that keeps all the purters away. 37:46.695 --> 37:47.576 [UNKNOWN]: The sound of a Drager. 37:47.736 --> 37:48.236 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, really. 37:48.256 --> 37:49.356 [UNKNOWN]: The internal spowls. 37:50.456 --> 37:50.856 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 37:51.276 --> 37:51.496 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 37:51.657 --> 37:52.977 [UNKNOWN]: I'd say groupers get curious. 37:52.997 --> 37:53.917 [UNKNOWN]: They'll just carry fucking things. 37:53.937 --> 37:54.257 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 37:54.917 --> 37:56.258 [UNKNOWN]: They, and they don't, they don't move. 37:56.478 --> 37:56.538 [UNKNOWN]: No. 37:56.558 --> 37:57.438 [UNKNOWN]: They're pretty mean way. 37:58.298 --> 38:03.019 [UNKNOWN]: The ones in the Gulf are called Humor, and they're the size of like a VW bug. 38:03.559 --> 38:09.781 [UNKNOWN]: And as a kid, they're big and they're black and they just sit there with their big droopy long faces and the eyes on the side they're had. 38:10.741 --> 38:16.645 [UNKNOWN]: And you just put the hot, I would always take hot dogs with me or for my dives and they would just almost take your hand with it. 38:16.705 --> 38:19.106 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it was about the scariest damn thing, awesome. 38:19.187 --> 38:19.907 [UNKNOWN]: And they don't move. 38:20.147 --> 38:20.928 [UNKNOWN]: They just sit there. 38:21.048 --> 38:22.789 [UNKNOWN]: They do not give a shit about anybody. 38:23.629 --> 38:24.250 [UNKNOWN]: You're like, yeah. 38:24.730 --> 38:26.771 [UNKNOWN]: The mother ocean is a mother fucker. 38:27.112 --> 38:28.332 [UNKNOWN]: Have you ever seen the fish? 38:28.472 --> 38:30.814 [UNKNOWN]: So there's a part, and I'm going to screw this up and I'll hear about it. 38:31.114 --> 38:36.197 [UNKNOWN]: There's a part of the Congo River right at the mouth that part of the Congo River is like 600 feet deep. 38:37.358 --> 38:38.898 [UNKNOWN]: but it's in the current. 38:38.918 --> 38:41.719 [UNKNOWN]: So it doesn't have, it doesn't go into a swamp. 38:41.959 --> 38:45.340 [UNKNOWN]: It just goes Congo river, drop, because it's dropping out of mountains. 38:45.760 --> 38:50.682 [UNKNOWN]: So there's these fish under there that can't get out of the current and we're talking millennia. 38:51.142 --> 38:54.703 [UNKNOWN]: And so there's like fish with trunks, like elephants and shit down there. 38:56.219 --> 39:06.046 [UNKNOWN]: And I literally saw this like two days ago and probably all bullshit probably for me, yeah But yeah, I don't know why I was talking about that, but yeah, the internet told me Yeah, it was true. 39:06.126 --> 39:08.107 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then the fish called me a fraud. 39:08.327 --> 39:12.170 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it was the internet You didn't but have fun 39:13.371 --> 39:22.020 [UNKNOWN]: The fish in front of him did, but he was a mother-ocean of some of the shit out there is crazy, because we talk about the space exploration of shit. 39:22.360 --> 39:28.267 [UNKNOWN]: I did a swim, my first deployment, we crossed the Atlantic on the US as Austin, and we did a two-mile swim in the middle. 39:29.048 --> 39:36.792 [UNKNOWN]: On one day when it was flat and just to know there's 5,000 feet of water below you and it's clear and it's almost so clean It's not salty like that's just yeah, there's so much shit on here. 39:36.832 --> 39:37.312 [UNKNOWN]: It's bad. 39:37.332 --> 39:38.313 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's amazing. 39:38.773 --> 39:42.175 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no overwhelming to think about to It is yeah the depth. 39:42.695 --> 39:49.059 [UNKNOWN]: I Did um Yeah, and I would tell people that I'm not lucky enough to get eaten by a shark on a bud swim There's no we're not that lucky. 39:49.179 --> 39:53.241 [UNKNOWN]: That's why no one's been attacked because they won't it would like a leopard eating it on the ocor She's just gonna have to yeah 39:53.783 --> 39:56.245 [UNKNOWN]: Well, you got to love how the instructors treat it when it's time, right? 39:56.325 --> 39:59.829 [UNKNOWN]: You wait to do that long swim out at St. in Camini Island. 40:00.249 --> 40:04.573 [UNKNOWN]: They play the movie, jaws while your forces and others run and watch it, right? 40:04.713 --> 40:07.416 [UNKNOWN]: Watch it and then, okay, now we're going to go do this night swim. 40:07.636 --> 40:08.677 [UNKNOWN]: Shark appreciation. 40:09.318 --> 40:11.159 [UNKNOWN]: Where it's all, you know, you got burned down. 40:11.179 --> 40:12.220 [UNKNOWN]: Show great whites everywhere out there. 40:12.240 --> 40:12.981 [UNKNOWN]: Birch at Island. 40:13.061 --> 40:14.442 [UNKNOWN]: It's a breeding ground for creepers. 40:14.462 --> 40:14.603 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 40:15.370 --> 40:20.034 [UNKNOWN]: People know, what is it, what is that the food chain, right? 40:20.054 --> 40:20.814 [UNKNOWN]: So you got the birds? 40:20.894 --> 40:21.234 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 40:21.254 --> 40:26.078 [UNKNOWN]: Should I, which brings in the seals and the seals, which then brings in the great whites, which brings in us. 40:26.298 --> 40:26.739 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 40:26.779 --> 40:27.919 [UNKNOWN]: But I don't love the food chain yet. 40:28.740 --> 40:30.181 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, that was a cool place too. 40:30.321 --> 40:31.782 [UNKNOWN]: Did you enjoy Sacramento? 40:32.163 --> 40:33.063 [UNKNOWN]: We did 40 straight days. 40:33.383 --> 40:33.684 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 40:34.144 --> 40:35.305 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 40:35.445 --> 40:36.365 [UNKNOWN]: I had double dose. 40:36.405 --> 40:37.266 [UNKNOWN]: So I went out there. 40:37.646 --> 40:40.867 [UNKNOWN]: That's how I got to know Ray Cash here. 40:40.927 --> 40:48.891 [UNKNOWN]: Jason Redden and all those guys, because I was sent out there before a class stop to support out at St. Clemente Island. 40:48.971 --> 40:50.512 [UNKNOWN]: And so I got to know those guys. 40:50.732 --> 40:53.733 [UNKNOWN]: I have a great story about Ray, but we won't talk about it here. 40:53.753 --> 40:54.394 [UNKNOWN]: We can tell it. 40:54.414 --> 40:58.636 [UNKNOWN]: If it's no good as long as we have it on the paper record, I think that's more important. 40:58.676 --> 41:01.797 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, those guys were, you know, I think I know 41:03.438 --> 41:03.738 [UNKNOWN]: It could. 41:03.758 --> 41:04.739 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was probably a couple. 41:04.899 --> 41:05.499 [UNKNOWN]: I'll let him tell. 41:05.539 --> 41:06.399 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, or you tell. 41:06.439 --> 41:07.019 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's all right. 41:07.039 --> 41:07.480 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to do it. 41:08.160 --> 41:15.402 [UNKNOWN]: Um, but yeah, I was out there for, I think it was maybe like a month and then came back, classed up and then back out there for my class. 41:15.462 --> 41:19.604 [UNKNOWN]: And I was just, you know, that's the moment when you're like, oh, shit. 41:19.624 --> 41:20.644 [UNKNOWN]: We're kind of almost there. 41:20.884 --> 41:27.987 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did, it did, uh, like, just got a, you all you got to do is just don't have a safety violation with the deck holder. 41:28.007 --> 41:28.527 [UNKNOWN]: You got to do 41:30.628 --> 41:39.872 [UNKNOWN]: Just follow through with everything, but the runs out by that time too, I noticed the impact physically that buds had on me because by time we got out there. 41:41.300 --> 41:43.262 [UNKNOWN]: That's when I noticed that, oh, wow. 41:43.302 --> 41:48.948 [UNKNOWN]: I've actually gained about 20 pounds, the pull-ups with, it didn't matter how much you put on me. 41:48.968 --> 41:53.572 [UNKNOWN]: I can knock him out and then the runs, I was running a fucking wind out there. 41:53.792 --> 41:57.076 [UNKNOWN]: Didn't, didn't matter, we did the machine at that point. 41:57.136 --> 42:01.120 [UNKNOWN]: I was bad at pull-ups, we're out there with gear, you had to 10, 10 pulls, whatever before child. 42:01.320 --> 42:03.562 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to 50, but then we did a 5K. 42:05.525 --> 42:06.786 [UNKNOWN]: We've been running a boot so whole time. 42:06.806 --> 42:07.906 [UNKNOWN]: Now we're on pavement. 42:07.966 --> 42:10.367 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, in running a boot town and make you run bad. 42:10.407 --> 42:10.947 [UNKNOWN]: We did a fun. 42:11.027 --> 42:11.367 [UNKNOWN]: I ran. 42:11.447 --> 42:12.148 [UNKNOWN]: I'll never forget. 42:12.168 --> 42:15.749 [UNKNOWN]: I ran a 5k in 15 15 and I finished third. 42:16.129 --> 42:16.289 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:16.329 --> 42:18.210 [UNKNOWN]: So two guys beat that fucking time, right? 42:18.430 --> 42:19.491 [UNKNOWN]: Which is sprinting. 42:19.891 --> 42:20.811 [UNKNOWN]: I had about the same. 42:20.831 --> 42:22.852 [UNKNOWN]: And that's the first time I was at the front of the pack. 42:22.892 --> 42:24.593 [UNKNOWN]: Dude, and just running as hard as you can. 42:24.613 --> 42:25.853 [UNKNOWN]: And then you stop and like that's it. 42:26.233 --> 42:26.794 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 42:26.834 --> 42:28.594 [UNKNOWN]: But it wasn't like holy shit. 42:28.614 --> 42:32.096 [UNKNOWN]: We're working now reading not drinking eating while shooting blowing shut up. 42:32.921 --> 42:34.203 [UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, I'm learning like, okay. 42:34.423 --> 42:34.623 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:34.884 --> 42:37.347 [UNKNOWN]: You know, and you get to see the new Mar-Rops facility. 42:37.367 --> 42:38.568 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, that's cool. 42:38.609 --> 42:41.592 [UNKNOWN]: You kind of get to see a glimpse of what the seal teams do. 42:43.113 --> 42:45.555 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, we got to see a platoon out there first platoon. 42:45.575 --> 42:47.436 [UNKNOWN]: We said, well, we saw them run by the cage and they growled. 42:47.456 --> 42:48.977 [UNKNOWN]: It was like a bunch of fucking cage animals. 42:49.257 --> 42:51.838 [UNKNOWN]: Remember the child runs the team three guys are in there. 42:51.898 --> 42:51.998 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:52.018 --> 42:52.179 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:52.199 --> 42:52.399 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:52.419 --> 42:52.559 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:52.579 --> 42:52.679 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:52.699 --> 42:52.819 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:52.879 --> 42:54.040 [UNKNOWN]: But we said, they did us a favor. 42:54.080 --> 42:58.222 [UNKNOWN]: They went out there and they didn't double up their water blast and it went low order. 42:59.003 --> 43:02.525 [UNKNOWN]: So they had a wait was it 72 hours for it can go check it somewhere. 43:02.545 --> 43:03.525 [UNKNOWN]: So we had 72 hours. 43:03.565 --> 43:04.686 [UNKNOWN]: We couldn't get wet and sandy. 43:05.366 --> 43:05.887 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm bad. 43:05.907 --> 43:06.527 [UNKNOWN]: You see glass. 43:11.310 --> 43:12.971 [UNKNOWN]: I used to go back out there. 43:14.272 --> 43:31.663 [UNKNOWN]: My brother is like 11 years younger than me and there's a portion of my team three career where I had to go get him and kind of raise him, brought him out to San Diego and everything and while I had him, I took it because what people don't know, San County Island is actually an MWR facility. 43:32.023 --> 43:33.904 [UNKNOWN]: So you can fly out there on a Navy bird. 43:33.924 --> 43:34.124 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 43:38.267 --> 43:42.555 [UNKNOWN]: go over to Mara's facility, get a free room, you know, you can eat at the Chowhaw for free. 43:42.635 --> 43:43.076 [UNKNOWN]: It's awesome. 43:43.136 --> 43:47.224 [UNKNOWN]: And we were you're taking kayaks, beach by whatever cruising around. 43:47.264 --> 43:48.767 [UNKNOWN]: Well, there happened to be a platoon out there. 43:49.770 --> 44:10.432 [UNKNOWN]: and they're doing call for fire on the other side of the eye and so they take my brother it's so now they're using green lanterns and whatever all kinds of laser tools and lighten up different targets and then my brother gets to get on the radio call for fire holy shit calling is a high school oh my god and then watching AC DC 130 at night just light up the sky live ammo dude 44:11.514 --> 44:21.608 [UNKNOWN]: I mean do that and there's something I and I don't even care how many fights you've been in that never gets old right As you want 30 going hot fuck you It is so cool. 44:21.668 --> 44:25.954 [UNKNOWN]: I just have America's mighty assets Have you ever been above at any given? 44:27.616 --> 44:32.119 [UNKNOWN]: So, when I finished the island, I was like, they're like, go ahead, go to the devil, get your record, you're going to see all the other two. 44:32.139 --> 44:33.139 [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, what the fuck does that mean? 44:33.400 --> 44:33.500 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 44:33.520 --> 44:34.620 [UNKNOWN]: You just went to do a team three. 44:34.640 --> 44:35.821 [UNKNOWN]: How's that transition there? 44:36.582 --> 44:38.163 [UNKNOWN]: Um, well, I had to go to 18. 44:38.203 --> 44:39.783 [UNKNOWN]: So you graduate, but oh, shit. 44:39.824 --> 44:40.684 [UNKNOWN]: It's a short course. 44:40.984 --> 44:42.805 [UNKNOWN]: Back in, I was in the last short course. 44:42.845 --> 44:43.025 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 44:43.246 --> 44:43.446 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 44:43.466 --> 44:43.946 [UNKNOWN]: And that was out. 44:44.006 --> 44:49.249 [UNKNOWN]: That was at Sam Houston, which was where I, ironically, was where I was born, I was born at Fort Sam Houston. 44:50.110 --> 44:51.291 [UNKNOWN]: Um, nothing's ironic. 44:51.531 --> 44:51.771 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 44:51.891 --> 44:53.832 [UNKNOWN]: And then I ended up back there for that. 44:54.112 --> 44:54.653 [UNKNOWN]: And then, 44:55.630 --> 44:58.265 [UNKNOWN]: had to go to jump school and then go check into team three. 44:58.365 --> 44:59.029 [UNKNOWN]: How's life, jump school? 45:00.620 --> 45:09.225 [UNKNOWN]: You know, you just, you just, you have enough of you go to, you know, get in trouble. 45:09.465 --> 45:13.467 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you do, because the army kids are all like, oh my god, we're like black hats. 45:13.587 --> 45:19.711 [UNKNOWN]: That is the worst time of someone's career to get sent to, because that is a prestigious school and it's a good school. 45:20.011 --> 45:20.171 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 45:20.211 --> 45:23.873 [UNKNOWN]: And the black hats, well, until they do that stupid dance to keep, they have to do that dance to keep your attention. 45:24.033 --> 45:24.253 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 45:24.753 --> 45:25.394 [UNKNOWN]: That's ridiculous. 45:25.414 --> 45:25.874 [UNKNOWN]: But, oh yeah. 45:26.014 --> 45:32.816 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just enough to get in trouble, but you know the night that you have the Pucker factors that 800 that 800 foot was an hour. 45:32.836 --> 45:35.216 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the eight and well the eight again with my lot of the plane. 45:35.776 --> 45:36.456 [UNKNOWN]: We didn't do that either. 45:36.496 --> 45:38.337 [UNKNOWN]: We didn't eight hundred that you don't get it. 45:38.357 --> 45:39.537 [UNKNOWN]: You don't have no reserves. 45:39.597 --> 45:41.938 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's no need to ask either straight out. 45:41.958 --> 45:45.158 [UNKNOWN]: The good news about that is you have the rest of your life to figure that shit out. 45:45.218 --> 45:46.559 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 800 feet is not far. 45:46.639 --> 45:46.899 [UNKNOWN]: No. 45:47.359 --> 45:49.639 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was that was like, is this safe? 45:49.680 --> 45:50.300 [UNKNOWN]: Why are we doing it? 45:50.320 --> 45:51.000 [UNKNOWN]: No, it's not safe. 45:51.100 --> 45:51.800 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're doing it. 45:51.920 --> 45:52.880 [UNKNOWN]: No, it's not safe. 45:53.001 --> 45:54.621 [UNKNOWN]: This is when we all invade a country. 45:54.841 --> 45:55.021 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 45:55.141 --> 45:56.422 [UNKNOWN]: This is the opposite. 45:56.442 --> 45:57.102 [UNKNOWN]: This is awesome. 45:57.523 --> 46:00.984 [UNKNOWN]: That was the lowest jump and I never did one lower after that. 46:01.004 --> 46:01.284 [UNKNOWN]: Did you? 46:01.825 --> 46:02.665 [UNKNOWN]: Never. 46:02.765 --> 46:05.026 [UNKNOWN]: You have to, you need to pull your reserve by eight. 46:05.346 --> 46:05.826 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 46:06.126 --> 46:06.907 [UNKNOWN]: That's the minimum. 46:06.927 --> 46:08.127 [UNKNOWN]: Like you're done. 46:08.147 --> 46:09.268 [UNKNOWN]: I think I've 800, right? 46:09.988 --> 46:11.069 [UNKNOWN]: No, you're saying exactly right. 46:11.189 --> 46:14.650 [UNKNOWN]: It's 12, 25, 1, 2, 5, 1, 2, 5, 0 is your jump and the eight is a combat jump. 46:14.670 --> 46:14.830 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 46:14.850 --> 46:15.391 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 46:15.611 --> 46:17.211 [UNKNOWN]: No, I've never heard of anyone doing this. 46:17.231 --> 46:17.692 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we did. 46:17.712 --> 46:18.132 [UNKNOWN]: That's not one. 46:18.712 --> 46:22.276 [UNKNOWN]: And it was just like, we're all looking at your like, yeah, you slowed on you on the ground. 46:22.296 --> 46:23.157 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, so it isn't wise. 46:23.197 --> 46:23.538 [UNKNOWN]: Wow. 46:23.578 --> 46:25.360 [UNKNOWN]: No, but it's kind of awesome. 46:25.400 --> 46:26.021 [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't have that. 46:26.041 --> 46:27.943 [UNKNOWN]: Well, that's fucking badass. 46:28.123 --> 46:29.725 [UNKNOWN]: No, that I thought it was cool at the end. 46:29.805 --> 46:30.826 [UNKNOWN]: The history and everything. 46:32.367 --> 46:36.630 [UNKNOWN]: I did think that Stripes was probably the most accurate army movie ever. 46:36.890 --> 46:38.631 [UNKNOWN]: At least that's what you're expecting, right? 46:38.651 --> 46:46.556 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you know, it's like I had a moment two weeks into it where I'm standing up and falling down into a sawdust, I'm just standing and falling. 46:46.636 --> 46:47.397 [UNKNOWN]: And I just stopped. 46:47.977 --> 46:48.117 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 46:48.157 --> 46:50.639 [UNKNOWN]: And a blackhick and what I was like, is this harder than what you just went through? 46:50.659 --> 46:53.140 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, no, no, it's not harder, is it what you're doing? 46:53.180 --> 46:54.441 [UNKNOWN]: It's the dumbest shit I've ever done in my life. 46:54.641 --> 46:56.162 [UNKNOWN]: Throw me out of the plane, let me get on with my life. 46:56.202 --> 46:57.203 [UNKNOWN]: That whole PLF thing. 46:57.223 --> 47:01.145 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, is there what, because people were failing it, you know, and for us, it's 47:02.398 --> 47:09.162 [UNKNOWN]: It's supposed to be more difficult, or, you know, you know, feet, knees, knees, hip, or whatever the hell it was. 47:09.182 --> 47:12.384 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's, uh, what's your fourth point of contact with your ass, right? 47:12.404 --> 47:15.245 [UNKNOWN]: Cause they would say, get your head out of your fourth point of contact with your fifth point of contact. 47:15.265 --> 47:15.946 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, third point of contact. 47:16.832 --> 47:19.774 [UNKNOWN]: So I was cool then back out west team three and then what it goes on there. 47:19.794 --> 47:20.255 [UNKNOWN]: What year was that? 47:20.275 --> 47:22.336 [UNKNOWN]: That was ninety ninety six. 47:23.097 --> 47:23.397 [UNKNOWN]: Seven. 47:23.877 --> 47:24.358 [UNKNOWN]: Somewhere on there. 47:25.158 --> 47:26.039 [UNKNOWN]: Check in the team three. 47:26.299 --> 47:29.622 [UNKNOWN]: Team three was the only one really operating at the time because we own the Middle East. 47:29.642 --> 47:30.763 [UNKNOWN]: So a lot of ship mornings. 47:30.843 --> 47:31.763 [UNKNOWN]: So that was cool. 47:31.804 --> 47:33.245 [UNKNOWN]: We're doing reconnaissance from. 47:33.885 --> 47:34.786 [UNKNOWN]: on the K.A. 47:34.866 --> 47:43.233 [UNKNOWN]: for all the blackout ships coming out of Iraq and Bargo against Saddam, so anything from oil to dates to the other dates weapons or whatever. 47:43.273 --> 47:46.937 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, anything that was you'd board it, you know, so that was pretty cool. 47:46.997 --> 47:47.977 [UNKNOWN]: Any, any good ones? 47:49.108 --> 47:51.951 [UNKNOWN]: Man, like, every single one was different. 47:51.991 --> 48:02.720 [UNKNOWN]: You know, there was times when it was dowels and you're literally, we had a modified, you know, the, in order to get out of a swimming pool, you know, it's got basically three steps on it, all on and on. 48:02.740 --> 48:04.682 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, we would take those modifiers. 48:04.782 --> 48:07.745 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we had those just need that little short step and the nod to a dowel. 48:08.545 --> 48:10.707 [UNKNOWN]: I remember get on and you're on nods. 48:11.248 --> 48:14.330 [UNKNOWN]: And I remember there was a pile of people 48:15.175 --> 48:23.349 [UNKNOWN]: underneath this anybody superstructure, they're all huddled together sleeping and intertwined into the huddle of people was also rats. 48:24.745 --> 48:29.826 [UNKNOWN]: like staying warm together out there on the golf at night. 48:30.646 --> 48:31.747 [UNKNOWN]: And you just kind of focus. 48:31.807 --> 48:33.487 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, they're fucking cats on board. 48:33.527 --> 48:34.287 [UNKNOWN]: What are those? 48:34.307 --> 48:45.010 [UNKNOWN]: Because when we put our lights on, and what it would maze me is you'd have a helicopter roll in once we were on, then okay, now our over lunch was a sniper on a helicopter. 48:45.050 --> 48:45.190 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 48:48.078 --> 48:50.059 [UNKNOWN]: And these people would not wake up. 48:50.380 --> 48:59.205 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, never yelling at them and flashlights and everything else and, you know, and they kind of slowly come out of, and they're mostly all packies. 48:59.225 --> 49:01.867 [UNKNOWN]: They're all deck hands and they come out of it. 49:01.887 --> 49:05.109 [UNKNOWN]: And you just see the rat scurry out of the pile of bodies. 49:05.649 --> 49:06.150 [UNKNOWN]: Where do they go? 49:06.190 --> 49:06.870 [UNKNOWN]: Like what though? 49:06.950 --> 49:07.811 [UNKNOWN]: They just go back to the... 49:07.851 --> 49:12.734 [UNKNOWN]: They're looking similar scurry down to the bottom or somewhere, but I have never... And those are not that big though. 49:12.874 --> 49:14.795 [UNKNOWN]: These are, this was 120 footers. 49:14.815 --> 49:15.356 [UNKNOWN]: They can get up. 49:17.277 --> 49:18.778 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but they're mainly smuggling dates. 49:18.798 --> 49:19.298 [UNKNOWN]: They love it. 49:19.398 --> 49:19.979 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 49:20.039 --> 49:21.239 [UNKNOWN]: Why are they smuggling dates? 49:21.279 --> 49:24.621 [UNKNOWN]: Is there a scene like, is there the, yeah. 49:25.322 --> 49:28.624 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think black market dates are any better or worse than dates. 49:29.124 --> 49:30.144 [UNKNOWN]: And then we did some tankers. 49:30.284 --> 49:33.326 [UNKNOWN]: We did some, you know, we're at 20 knots, pulling upside these things. 49:33.386 --> 49:34.147 [UNKNOWN]: It was doing oil. 49:34.307 --> 49:34.427 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 49:34.447 --> 49:35.347 [UNKNOWN]: And they're blacked out. 49:35.367 --> 49:38.949 [UNKNOWN]: They would always, you know, they would always ride that Iranian 12 months. 49:39.030 --> 49:40.090 [UNKNOWN]: Of course, my line. 49:40.170 --> 49:40.991 [UNKNOWN]: So if they pulled down, 49:43.392 --> 49:46.774 [UNKNOWN]: They play those games with us, but we'd always, you know, take it down. 49:46.814 --> 49:47.554 [UNKNOWN]: Those were fun though. 49:47.574 --> 49:49.795 [UNKNOWN]: That was, did no shots fired ever, I imagine. 49:50.156 --> 49:50.856 [UNKNOWN]: Didn't see that. 49:51.156 --> 49:51.336 [UNKNOWN]: No. 49:51.416 --> 49:54.538 [UNKNOWN]: That was, that was when real world training was really good training. 49:54.558 --> 49:54.878 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 49:54.998 --> 50:01.802 [UNKNOWN]: It was, too, because we came over there with Team 2, and we got that Russian tanker, and then we did a couple of date boats, but it's okay. 50:01.822 --> 50:03.182 [UNKNOWN]: Here's the question I've been dying at. 50:03.202 --> 50:03.963 [UNKNOWN]: Did you get to Thailand? 50:04.887 --> 50:05.807 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah. 50:06.168 --> 50:08.069 [UNKNOWN]: I asked Clark in postado this question. 50:08.089 --> 50:14.071 [UNKNOWN]: I want to ask you because I'm I'm a free 911 seal on the East Coast and we had it Europe and yeah and we're in the good places. 50:14.332 --> 50:19.394 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I asked him what was the day in a life of a deployed Navy seal in Paddy of each time. 50:19.654 --> 50:19.914 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 50:20.274 --> 50:21.235 [UNKNOWN]: Can you describe a good day? 50:22.157 --> 50:23.898 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he said you guys would start at the blow job. 50:23.938 --> 50:24.739 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just giving you a bar. 50:24.839 --> 50:25.579 [UNKNOWN]: And just to bar. 50:26.460 --> 50:27.721 [UNKNOWN]: Well, I was married at the time. 50:27.761 --> 50:28.441 [UNKNOWN]: Baron of five. 50:28.741 --> 50:29.742 [UNKNOWN]: I witnessed plenty. 50:30.242 --> 50:33.284 [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, we pulled in there once for liberty. 50:33.925 --> 50:37.907 [UNKNOWN]: And I had, uh, that platoon was rack and stacked man. 50:37.967 --> 50:40.209 [UNKNOWN]: But one of the guys was Glenn Dordy. 50:40.509 --> 50:41.770 [UNKNOWN]: And so yeah, I was Glenn. 50:41.810 --> 50:42.710 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't think God's in. 50:42.730 --> 50:43.531 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and Bob. 50:43.551 --> 50:44.311 [UNKNOWN]: Great guy. 50:44.431 --> 50:45.332 [UNKNOWN]: Everybody's best friend. 50:45.372 --> 50:46.292 [UNKNOWN]: One of my best friends. 50:46.553 --> 50:46.913 [UNKNOWN]: And, um, 50:48.124 --> 51:17.008 [UNKNOWN]: uh... we're both medics i think i was the alpio and he was my secondary for on the medic part um... but we pull in there we go out and uh... Glenn has a whole lot of fun one night right yeah and uh... we can't find him you know and then eventually we find them but it took like all day and it's matter of me waking them up and he's got three checks you know on either side of them and it was like what the fuck and he doesn't remember what he's done but he's nervous wreck 51:17.928 --> 51:21.611 [UNKNOWN]: And so Glenn's like, man, I don't know if I, I don't remember anything. 51:21.631 --> 51:22.731 [UNKNOWN]: I don't even know if I covered up. 51:23.052 --> 51:25.533 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like, I got to get an HIV test. 51:25.553 --> 51:27.675 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I set that up and I'm like, I don't know if I can pull that off. 51:27.695 --> 51:29.376 [UNKNOWN]: I got to go to the fucking embassy to pull that shit off. 51:29.396 --> 51:34.479 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, because this is back when it takes like six months to get your HIV back. 51:34.559 --> 51:35.580 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 51:35.760 --> 51:42.804 [UNKNOWN]: Each test costs like $2,500 and anyway, so it was so funny to go to, I can't remember, it was an embassy or a consulate. 51:42.844 --> 51:43.945 [UNKNOWN]: Try to pull this shit off. 51:45.366 --> 51:46.647 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, what should we say? 51:46.667 --> 51:47.787 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, well, just typical. 51:47.807 --> 51:49.288 [UNKNOWN]: It's a car accident or it's bought everywhere. 51:49.769 --> 51:51.069 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, obviously, you and I are Maddox. 51:51.089 --> 51:51.930 [UNKNOWN]: And we helped it out, right? 51:52.450 --> 51:55.091 [UNKNOWN]: And so we go there thinking this is going to be some unique story. 51:55.111 --> 51:56.812 [UNKNOWN]: No, that had to hurt. 51:56.832 --> 51:57.773 [UNKNOWN]: Every Wednesday, baby. 51:57.833 --> 51:58.753 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 51:58.814 --> 51:59.994 [UNKNOWN]: Like, okay, we need to get HIV. 52:00.074 --> 52:02.095 [UNKNOWN]: I lumped myself into it. 52:02.115 --> 52:03.216 [UNKNOWN]: So just so we, yeah. 52:03.676 --> 52:03.956 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 52:03.976 --> 52:06.458 [UNKNOWN]: And it's like, yeah, we just need, we had this accident. 52:06.478 --> 52:08.419 [UNKNOWN]: They're just like, right. 52:08.439 --> 52:10.860 [UNKNOWN]: The old, two, two car accident. 52:11.200 --> 52:12.601 [UNKNOWN]: Bobby's flew everywhere. 52:14.502 --> 52:17.204 [UNKNOWN]: And just, yeah, they'd heard that one one too many times. 52:17.404 --> 52:20.666 [UNKNOWN]: That is, of course, you know, they give it to you. 52:20.866 --> 52:24.148 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and they actually, there was a prophylactic at the time. 52:24.168 --> 52:30.332 [UNKNOWN]: I can't remember what the hell that stuff was, but you would take it every single day to try and get ahead of the virus. 52:31.072 --> 52:31.393 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 52:31.473 --> 52:32.553 [UNKNOWN]: But Glenn was freaked out. 52:32.653 --> 52:33.354 [UNKNOWN]: That describes, 52:35.455 --> 52:37.075 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe what a night could look like. 52:37.135 --> 52:41.856 [UNKNOWN]: That's so funny that you walk in and he's got that riding free, wild horse look. 52:41.956 --> 52:43.476 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I put anything on. 52:43.576 --> 52:44.437 [UNKNOWN]: I don't remember this. 52:44.677 --> 52:48.477 [UNKNOWN]: Other than I know all three of them have tits, I'm pretty sure two of them are girls. 52:48.517 --> 52:49.297 [UNKNOWN]: I have no idea. 52:49.337 --> 52:49.497 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 52:50.278 --> 52:53.958 [UNKNOWN]: The other thing that every person should take advantage of in Thailand is a sudsy. 52:54.158 --> 52:54.698 [UNKNOWN]: Did you hear really? 52:54.738 --> 52:55.338 [UNKNOWN]: I've heard about the sudsy. 52:55.358 --> 52:56.019 [UNKNOWN]: Why don't you explain it? 52:56.039 --> 52:56.979 [UNKNOWN]: I know that it is. 52:56.999 --> 53:00.999 [UNKNOWN]: Basically, Thailand's version of a very erotic massage. 53:01.239 --> 53:02.460 [UNKNOWN]: You can keep your shorts on. 53:03.020 --> 53:04.020 [UNKNOWN]: You walk into a room. 53:05.238 --> 53:11.481 [UNKNOWN]: And there's basically, you know, those blow up floaty beds that you can put in your something pull, and whatever, what does that call? 53:11.501 --> 53:13.362 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like a bad, the fucking floaty mattress. 53:13.382 --> 53:14.322 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, floaty mattress, yeah. 53:14.903 --> 53:16.943 [UNKNOWN]: And it's covered in soapy water. 53:17.564 --> 53:20.425 [UNKNOWN]: And so you'll get on it, and then three girls will come in the room. 53:20.445 --> 53:24.147 [UNKNOWN]: Three, and they too are covered in soapy water. 53:24.327 --> 53:26.328 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm imagining they don't have a lot of clothes on. 53:27.163 --> 53:28.245 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, they don't have very much on. 53:28.585 --> 53:34.813 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and there's a bucket full of more soapy water, and then they just use their bodies like snakes. 53:34.893 --> 53:39.919 [UNKNOWN]: And they just cruise around, they're using their entire body to massage your body. 53:40.948 --> 53:50.116 [UNKNOWN]: and they come across the top, all the way around, flip the over, keep doing it, and they've got this whole thing they do, and there's options in that moment. 53:50.196 --> 53:54.961 [UNKNOWN]: I like to do something different, but I didn't take advantage of that, but like five of your taxes? 53:57.243 --> 54:04.409 [UNKNOWN]: But I was being a medic, I'm obviously, I'm where the most paranoid mother funds in the group, so I was like, do not touch my shorts. 54:04.789 --> 54:07.352 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, they'll leave them on, please, thank you. 54:08.032 --> 54:12.296 [UNKNOWN]: But it is, it is, it's, you come out of there. 54:12.316 --> 54:14.418 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, completely relax. 54:14.458 --> 54:16.640 [UNKNOWN]: No different than any other massage, it's just how they do it. 54:16.680 --> 54:17.861 [UNKNOWN]: You do, because it sounds awful. 54:19.002 --> 54:20.003 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it does, doesn't it? 54:20.283 --> 54:24.607 [UNKNOWN]: No, I've heard of a massage, and like, it is an erotic massage, but like, dudes come out reset. 54:25.451 --> 54:30.697 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think everything over there was dirt cheap, you know, and it's always three. 54:31.098 --> 54:42.211 [UNKNOWN]: Kind of like Bolly, we did a, we did it to stop in Bolly, too, and you can sit on the beach, get massage by three women, eat, stake in lobster, and each of those things is seven bucks. 54:42.912 --> 54:48.654 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm taking lobster seven bucks a 90-minute massage by seven women seven bucks at the time. 54:49.074 --> 54:52.455 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you go to an ATM and pull out 20 bucks. 54:52.575 --> 54:54.216 [UNKNOWN]: It's like a stack that you are like. 54:54.236 --> 54:55.036 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're got gunned in. 54:55.056 --> 54:55.616 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you are. 54:55.636 --> 54:56.597 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you are a pimpin. 54:57.317 --> 55:00.778 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, if we could pull that off there would be no war. 55:01.907 --> 55:16.763 [UNKNOWN]: steak massages beach and I know I mean I travel a lot of people get along with we got to figure out what the problem is well put in perspective two weeks later have to be left that's when the sorry club was bombed yeah by uh... was that a.s.f.g. 55:16.923 --> 55:17.483 [UNKNOWN]: and a.s.g. 55:18.084 --> 55:18.685 [UNKNOWN]: abuse i.f. 55:18.725 --> 55:22.709 [UNKNOWN]: group and so they bombed it killing like who's that like 55:24.083 --> 55:25.925 [UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of Aussies because Bollywood. 55:25.945 --> 55:26.705 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I remember that. 55:26.745 --> 55:27.626 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 55:27.746 --> 55:28.326 [UNKNOWN]: I do remember that. 55:28.347 --> 55:30.568 [UNKNOWN]: I want to say it was like 120 kids a lot. 55:31.249 --> 55:31.569 [UNKNOWN]: You know? 55:31.829 --> 55:33.991 [UNKNOWN]: And we were in the Sorry Club every night. 55:34.371 --> 55:36.013 [UNKNOWN]: And in two weeks later, that thing gets smoked. 55:36.033 --> 55:37.093 [UNKNOWN]: Time is up, your time is up. 55:37.133 --> 55:37.274 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 55:37.314 --> 55:38.915 [UNKNOWN]: I remember that you actually were going to holiday there. 55:39.315 --> 55:39.535 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 55:39.635 --> 55:40.696 [UNKNOWN]: That was what you was at that. 55:40.716 --> 55:41.537 [UNKNOWN]: So we're talking that. 55:41.997 --> 55:43.078 [UNKNOWN]: That was what it's been a minute. 55:43.258 --> 55:44.339 [UNKNOWN]: So that's 2000. 55:44.359 --> 55:45.200 [UNKNOWN]: I don't remember. 55:45.500 --> 55:46.160 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe 2000. 55:46.281 --> 55:46.661 [UNKNOWN]: Where? 55:46.861 --> 55:47.301 [UNKNOWN]: So on 9-11. 55:49.067 --> 55:57.953 [UNKNOWN]: I was just crossing Coronado Bridge going to work in three in my wife at the almost fitting and saying, well, yeah, that's like, that's like prophetic. 55:58.013 --> 56:00.415 [UNKNOWN]: I'm on the Coronado Bridge going to sealed him three. 56:00.435 --> 56:00.615 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 56:00.735 --> 56:01.396 [UNKNOWN]: It's 911. 56:01.916 --> 56:02.156 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 56:02.316 --> 56:03.497 [UNKNOWN]: And that's fucking change everything. 56:03.857 --> 56:04.058 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 56:04.238 --> 56:06.439 [UNKNOWN]: Wife at the time calls says, hey, we're under attack. 56:06.459 --> 56:07.700 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, well, I know we're not. 56:08.040 --> 56:10.662 [UNKNOWN]: You know, and then I park going on the quarterback. 56:10.682 --> 56:14.765 [UNKNOWN]: There was a TV on the quarterback in those days and everyone's around the news. 56:14.865 --> 56:16.867 [UNKNOWN]: And just as I look over my buddy's shoulder, 56:17.607 --> 56:21.578 [UNKNOWN]: Second plane goes into the second tower and I was like holy shit and then that 56:22.620 --> 56:25.702 [UNKNOWN]: are two-plotans from Team 3 left within a couple of weeks. 56:25.782 --> 56:28.224 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they went straight to Afghanistan. 56:28.284 --> 56:29.425 [UNKNOWN]: Be careful, Team 3's going. 56:29.485 --> 56:32.668 [UNKNOWN]: Like that's, you don't even know you're just going. 56:32.688 --> 56:33.548 [UNKNOWN]: So we'll figure it out. 56:33.628 --> 56:37.191 [UNKNOWN]: Hence the reason why McCraven did force 21, right? 56:37.231 --> 56:39.193 [UNKNOWN]: So Team 3 cannot handle two wars. 56:39.233 --> 56:40.914 [UNKNOWN]: And I rack and have games at the same time. 56:41.714 --> 56:46.758 [UNKNOWN]: So then, in court, basically flipped the switch and then put all teams involved in the wars. 56:46.838 --> 56:51.282 [UNKNOWN]: Well, then, I mean, within 10 days to two weeks, there's already rumors of invading Iraq. 56:51.902 --> 56:52.683 [UNKNOWN]: What does that go for? 56:52.743 --> 56:53.264 [UNKNOWN]: Of course we are. 56:53.464 --> 56:54.345 [UNKNOWN]: Try to kill not daddy. 56:54.466 --> 56:55.908 [UNKNOWN]: Well, pretty sure about that. 56:55.928 --> 56:58.131 [UNKNOWN]: Bath a man handed out the fucking box cuters or whatever. 56:58.511 --> 56:59.452 [UNKNOWN]: That is another rabbit hole. 56:59.472 --> 56:59.833 [UNKNOWN]: Who knows? 57:00.073 --> 57:01.215 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure. 57:01.735 --> 57:04.159 [UNKNOWN]: So the answer to that is what is so you're in a platoon at the time then. 57:04.800 --> 57:07.303 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, in a platoon we're finishing our work up and then. 57:07.323 --> 57:08.665 [UNKNOWN]: That's a good time to be finishing our work up. 57:09.043 --> 57:18.645 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Afghanistan went off, so I remember what we ended up doing the initial push and Iraq. 57:18.785 --> 57:19.465 [UNKNOWN]: You on the invasion? 57:19.886 --> 57:20.066 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 57:20.246 --> 57:21.666 [UNKNOWN]: That's incredible. 57:21.726 --> 57:22.826 [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't on the invasion. 57:23.186 --> 57:24.987 [UNKNOWN]: I'm making you very clear where I wasn't wasn't. 57:25.487 --> 57:26.167 [UNKNOWN]: It was not on that. 57:26.187 --> 57:28.007 [UNKNOWN]: I've heard that invading a country's a blast. 57:28.127 --> 57:29.328 [UNKNOWN]: You've been everywhere, right? 57:29.348 --> 57:29.948 [UNKNOWN]: I was not there. 57:30.768 --> 57:32.008 [UNKNOWN]: I was on the Captain Phillips raid. 57:32.028 --> 57:33.389 [UNKNOWN]: I was drinking coffee when they shot. 57:33.429 --> 57:34.189 [UNKNOWN]: Didn't do shit. 57:34.709 --> 57:35.309 [UNKNOWN]: You're excited. 57:35.429 --> 57:35.709 [UNKNOWN]: Very good. 57:35.769 --> 57:37.130 [UNKNOWN]: And thus we're drinking a happy hour. 57:37.170 --> 57:38.030 [UNKNOWN]: I took all three shots. 57:39.310 --> 57:49.916 [UNKNOWN]: No, that initial push was, you know, that's like true like seeing conventional war kickoff like that and special operations at the time didn't know its place in a conventional war. 57:49.956 --> 57:50.936 [UNKNOWN]: That's a very good point. 57:51.097 --> 57:56.459 [UNKNOWN]: And so we were kind of figuring it out, building the plane, you know, while we're flying it, kind of moment. 57:56.760 --> 58:00.462 [UNKNOWN]: And so we went and took down the kickoff was taken down. 58:01.342 --> 58:04.143 [UNKNOWN]: Maybot, which was the largest gas oil platform in the world. 58:04.623 --> 58:09.225 [UNKNOWN]: Simultaneous hit, we had guys hit alpha, peninsula, and then that's it, fuck about us. 58:09.305 --> 58:18.108 [UNKNOWN]: And then we hit the go-plats basically secure the oil, prevent environmental disaster because sedan likes to light everything on fire, blow everything up. 58:18.168 --> 58:18.348 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 58:19.349 --> 58:27.211 [UNKNOWN]: CIA said, hey, there's, you know, what three bad guys, one hostage, and we're like, all right, we're coming from the water and it's a big lit up like a Christmas tree. 58:27.251 --> 58:28.292 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, oh, this ought to be fun. 58:29.253 --> 58:33.517 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm number one man on to the surf decks start going up the stairs all into that super structure. 58:33.537 --> 58:40.584 [UNKNOWN]: This thing was a click long seven decks of seven colors for 16 of us to like a click long seven decks. 58:40.704 --> 58:42.406 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, pull up four tankers of this thing. 58:42.426 --> 58:45.809 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 85% of Iraq's oils come out of this thing, right? 58:46.570 --> 58:53.877 [UNKNOWN]: And so, yeah, the goal is to get to the super structure because supposedly this thing is kind of rigged below. 58:54.922 --> 58:56.386 [UNKNOWN]: Um, I didn't think of that. 58:56.727 --> 58:59.793 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, sub-surface explosives all the way through the whole thing. 59:00.194 --> 59:01.858 [UNKNOWN]: Fuck, triggering device and burthing. 59:02.907 --> 59:05.188 [UNKNOWN]: they did not light it off obviously or we'd all been dead. 59:05.849 --> 59:07.049 [UNKNOWN]: Oh wait, they had that there. 59:07.189 --> 59:07.469 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah. 59:07.589 --> 59:10.131 [UNKNOWN]: I thought it was just the threat like there's not going to be tiger shirt. 59:10.191 --> 59:11.792 [UNKNOWN]: No, there's really a whole thing. 59:11.992 --> 59:12.632 [UNKNOWN]: Holy shit. 59:12.752 --> 59:17.095 [UNKNOWN]: And they had any aircraft guns, shoulder-fired weapons, they just didn't want to get their G-hat on. 59:17.335 --> 59:17.555 [UNKNOWN]: No. 59:17.695 --> 59:19.036 [UNKNOWN]: There was 27 dudes. 59:19.516 --> 59:24.398 [UNKNOWN]: And they all made a thinking of Pinky swear we're not set this off, right guys? 59:24.418 --> 59:25.379 [UNKNOWN]: Right, right Muhammad. 59:25.599 --> 59:28.522 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so they didn't even hear it out loud. 59:28.762 --> 59:30.263 [UNKNOWN]: There was really no resistance, right? 59:30.283 --> 59:50.122 [UNKNOWN]: So we get on and we see that's a deterrent coming around the corner and there's like all of them huddled together like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 59:52.003 --> 59:55.526 [UNKNOWN]: And it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a not fucking kicker dude. 59:55.566 --> 59:57.267 [UNKNOWN]: We, I mean, that was a long night. 59:57.667 --> 01:00:01.890 [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, there was 27 guys, no hostages, right? 01:00:01.930 --> 01:00:04.452 [UNKNOWN]: So once again, CIA intelligence leading the way. 01:00:05.332 --> 01:00:11.657 [UNKNOWN]: Um, but then, yeah, the whole thing was loaded to blow, triggering device, short all of cashier. 01:00:12.257 --> 01:00:16.780 [UNKNOWN]: In each guy had 10 grand in US currency in his back pocket. 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:17.321 [UNKNOWN]: And we're like, what? 01:00:22.248 --> 01:00:26.271 [UNKNOWN]: Right? 01:00:26.651 --> 01:00:33.216 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, each guy has $10,000 fresh from the bank, stacked, wrapped, perfectly, all of them had it on. 01:00:33.236 --> 01:00:34.517 [UNKNOWN]: We're like, what the fuck is this? 01:00:34.537 --> 01:00:35.838 [UNKNOWN]: They're like, said, dumb. 01:00:36.218 --> 01:00:36.979 [UNKNOWN]: Like, said, I'm what? 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:37.779 [UNKNOWN]: Said, I'm paid off. 01:00:37.799 --> 01:00:40.361 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm like, well, why wouldn't you leave the 10 grand with your family? 01:00:40.481 --> 01:00:40.661 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:00:40.921 --> 01:00:41.922 [UNKNOWN]: Because we're not going to blow it up. 01:00:41.942 --> 01:00:42.423 [UNKNOWN]: We wanted to keep. 01:00:42.463 --> 01:00:43.263 [UNKNOWN]: I can't trust my family. 01:00:44.564 --> 01:00:45.285 [UNKNOWN]: They kept the money. 01:00:45.325 --> 01:00:46.405 [UNKNOWN]: That's a very honest answer. 01:00:46.505 --> 01:00:46.766 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:00:46.926 --> 01:00:48.347 [UNKNOWN]: And they're like, they just weren't going to do it. 01:00:49.275 --> 01:00:50.736 [UNKNOWN]: And that's awesome. 01:00:50.816 --> 01:00:57.699 [UNKNOWN]: So they had a plan, so they got the bombs up so when the inspectors come from Baghdad, like, look, hey man, one love, that's right. 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.861 [UNKNOWN]: Fuck that, I'm surrounded with Americans, three hots of cotton, 10 grand, I'm a pocket baby. 01:01:00.941 --> 01:01:02.201 [UNKNOWN]: That's right, that's right. 01:01:02.221 --> 01:01:04.282 [UNKNOWN]: What's so you get those do 27 of them? 01:01:04.502 --> 01:01:06.283 [UNKNOWN]: Then you have to interrogate all of them. 01:01:06.483 --> 01:01:08.044 [UNKNOWN]: How's your Arabic after living inside a baby? 01:01:08.564 --> 01:01:09.665 [UNKNOWN]: This is a shway shway. 01:01:09.705 --> 01:01:14.447 [UNKNOWN]: I grew up taking Arabic, you know, I can get away with understanding and get more like it's speak it. 01:01:14.507 --> 01:01:15.808 [UNKNOWN]: So you have interpreters with you? 01:01:16.549 --> 01:01:21.495 [UNKNOWN]: Um, we did not, you know, that was before I think we knew we needed interpreters. 01:01:21.855 --> 01:01:27.102 [UNKNOWN]: So, no, it's, it was so early, we didn't know when we had news from team 6 come back from Afghanistan. 01:01:27.122 --> 01:01:30.086 [UNKNOWN]: The first thing you said is you're not going to believe if I tell you what it's like so go see it. 01:01:30.427 --> 01:01:32.589 [UNKNOWN]: Second of all, everything we've ever learned, fucking dump it. 01:01:33.270 --> 01:01:35.331 [UNKNOWN]: because the center peeled peel, fuck that. 01:01:35.411 --> 01:01:39.174 [UNKNOWN]: No, I just find the largest rock you can, which will be this big get your entire body behind it. 01:01:39.194 --> 01:01:40.634 [UNKNOWN]: Don't fucking move till the air force shows. 01:01:40.654 --> 01:01:41.435 [UNKNOWN]: There's your new SOPs. 01:01:41.635 --> 01:01:42.756 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like, wow, really? 01:01:43.176 --> 01:01:43.396 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:01:43.896 --> 01:01:47.318 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, so, because I'm thinking you have to interrogate these, just what do you do with them? 01:01:47.338 --> 01:01:48.299 [UNKNOWN]: No, maybe we did. 01:01:48.619 --> 01:01:53.222 [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, what do you have a crew come up from conventional Navy Army, something like that? 01:01:53.242 --> 01:01:54.302 [UNKNOWN]: The Marines came on board. 01:01:54.322 --> 01:01:54.463 [UNKNOWN]: Good. 01:01:54.543 --> 01:02:01.667 [UNKNOWN]: Once we had it secured, then we got on the boats, went back to Kuwait, jumped in our hombees, keep in mind, our hombees had plastic doors, no armor. 01:02:02.247 --> 01:02:03.228 [UNKNOWN]: Got on Highway 1. 01:02:03.628 --> 01:02:04.168 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, shit. 01:02:04.228 --> 01:02:04.629 [UNKNOWN]: Kuwait. 01:02:05.229 --> 01:02:05.990 [UNKNOWN]: Two Baghdad. 01:02:06.310 --> 01:02:06.510 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:02:06.530 --> 01:02:07.471 [UNKNOWN]: So we're on the highway. 01:02:07.491 --> 01:02:08.712 [UNKNOWN]: We'll drop daylight. 01:02:09.172 --> 01:02:09.953 [UNKNOWN]: And there was a point. 01:02:10.033 --> 01:02:10.373 [UNKNOWN]: No. 01:02:10.393 --> 01:02:11.234 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 01:02:11.254 --> 01:02:13.655 [UNKNOWN]: This is the most patriotic moment in the whole thing. 01:02:13.715 --> 01:02:14.656 [UNKNOWN]: Is on Highway 1. 01:02:14.676 --> 01:02:15.417 [UNKNOWN]: You look to the right. 01:02:16.334 --> 01:02:21.018 [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, the entire east was the Marine Corps and the west of Iraq was the Army. 01:02:21.859 --> 01:02:25.902 [UNKNOWN]: And so when we, there's a point on the highway, you look left and right and it was the line. 01:02:26.603 --> 01:02:31.587 [UNKNOWN]: And that line was moving, fucking artillery tanks, hauling ass. 01:02:31.607 --> 01:02:33.829 [UNKNOWN]: That's a thunder, I mean, it was awesome. 01:02:34.009 --> 01:02:35.310 [UNKNOWN]: Online across that desert. 01:02:35.430 --> 01:02:37.452 [UNKNOWN]: Our army moved so fast. 01:02:37.492 --> 01:02:40.455 [UNKNOWN]: That's what we had the Jessica Lynch thing because they fucking lost supply. 01:02:40.495 --> 01:02:41.475 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, just lost. 01:02:41.656 --> 01:02:41.956 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:02:41.996 --> 01:02:43.517 [UNKNOWN]: We ended up getting non-ossery in. 01:02:44.618 --> 01:03:03.241 [UNKNOWN]: center watching gold squad and roll in with them camis from us are hotel and re-off we've been sleeping under our fucking humbese by the time they show thanks for the work now back off seal came to sixes here that's it we're a lives damn it is a fucking cable TV work now we'll go rescue just yeah that's funny 01:03:03.782 --> 01:03:11.492 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he's from Team 3, you're looking at us because we're covered in dirt, we're sleeping in the dirt, you know, and there's a good team guys from Team 3. 01:03:11.732 --> 01:03:16.518 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and they're kind of like, you guys been, you guys been in it, we're like, fuck yeah, been here. 01:03:16.538 --> 01:03:18.981 [UNKNOWN]: It's a whole time dog and dealing with this, you know. 01:03:19.642 --> 01:03:21.585 [UNKNOWN]: It's so, on Nassarillo, it was a cluster of fun. 01:03:21.625 --> 01:03:22.365 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:03:22.486 --> 01:03:23.227 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes it was. 01:03:23.347 --> 01:03:25.289 [UNKNOWN]: It was trench warfare and all kinds of weird shit. 01:03:25.309 --> 01:03:25.990 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man. 01:03:26.451 --> 01:03:27.392 [UNKNOWN]: This is an invasion. 01:03:27.512 --> 01:03:28.093 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:03:28.393 --> 01:03:33.900 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was a first time to see like damn that guy's kind of like a little intimidated by these dirty asses. 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.803 [UNKNOWN]: Like I'm saying, everything we knew was different. 01:03:36.843 --> 01:03:38.225 [UNKNOWN]: Everything we thought we knew was different. 01:03:38.245 --> 01:03:38.846 [UNKNOWN]: It was awesome. 01:03:39.184 --> 01:03:40.385 [UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, we learned that shit, too. 01:03:40.425 --> 01:03:43.867 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, yeah, well, that the door's open and the house is running at the fight over with fuck no. 01:03:44.128 --> 01:03:48.270 [UNKNOWN]: Because Al Qaeda's in there with machine guns, watch, boom, the truth shit, you gotta learn everything over. 01:03:48.751 --> 01:03:51.593 [UNKNOWN]: And that's when I complacency is caused by success. 01:03:51.613 --> 01:03:57.097 [UNKNOWN]: You know, because your ass handed to you, you get, it's like, people started dying, they got bored. 01:03:57.357 --> 01:03:57.717 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 01:03:57.777 --> 01:03:58.057 [UNKNOWN]: Fuck. 01:03:59.221 --> 01:04:05.065 [UNKNOWN]: So um, yeah, that's uh, so we washed in on us for you to get rescue or a Jessica landscape from a barman. 01:04:05.745 --> 01:04:06.386 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're right there. 01:04:06.586 --> 01:04:08.587 [UNKNOWN]: They flew in a gorilla package, didn't they? 01:04:09.068 --> 01:04:09.488 [UNKNOWN]: They came. 01:04:09.508 --> 01:04:15.352 [UNKNOWN]: They hit that place so hard the bottom floor and then the guys came from the top and I think they met halfway and took her out of there. 01:04:15.372 --> 01:04:17.873 [UNKNOWN]: There's zero resistance on the way in or on the way out. 01:04:17.893 --> 01:04:18.694 [UNKNOWN]: Do they breach anything? 01:04:19.646 --> 01:04:29.095 [UNKNOWN]: So they just went and got her, you know, um, common friend of ours, I'll just go this first name Jeff was the gunner on one of the homies and just let the bottom of that. 01:04:29.275 --> 01:04:30.756 [UNKNOWN]: I guess that's a good quality. 01:04:30.796 --> 01:04:36.762 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, before anybody went inside, I mean, nobody was alive on the first day. 01:04:36.782 --> 01:04:37.583 [UNKNOWN]: No, every fire. 01:04:38.063 --> 01:04:38.564 [UNKNOWN]: Dry man. 01:04:38.944 --> 01:04:39.504 [UNKNOWN]: It's pretty cool. 01:04:39.585 --> 01:04:41.026 [UNKNOWN]: So what happens after that deployment? 01:04:41.106 --> 01:04:43.528 [UNKNOWN]: Any how many trips before you went on a trip? 01:04:43.688 --> 01:04:46.931 [UNKNOWN]: We went all the way up to, you know, Baghdad. 01:04:46.951 --> 01:04:50.054 [UNKNOWN]: There was time and Baghdad, time and to create any way. 01:04:52.684 --> 01:04:56.147 [UNKNOWN]: All of it was eventful, but nothing like what was to come. 01:04:56.387 --> 01:04:59.489 [UNKNOWN]: Because our leadership then didn't know what to do, right? 01:04:59.930 --> 01:05:03.332 [UNKNOWN]: We had all this leadership and didn't have combat experience or know what other thought it was. 01:05:03.352 --> 01:05:04.033 [UNKNOWN]: Other fault, right? 01:05:04.153 --> 01:05:04.553 [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't. 01:05:05.174 --> 01:05:08.156 [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, famous people on the ground, I got to work for. 01:05:08.256 --> 01:05:10.878 [UNKNOWN]: So, at the time, it was Colonel Kelly. 01:05:10.958 --> 01:05:11.699 [UNKNOWN]: Was the Marine? 01:05:11.979 --> 01:05:13.701 [UNKNOWN]: The am on the ground. 01:05:13.821 --> 01:05:15.762 [UNKNOWN]: He did a good job because he didn't have a problem. 01:05:15.782 --> 01:05:16.383 [UNKNOWN]: He moved a little. 01:05:16.403 --> 01:05:19.705 [UNKNOWN]: He was the first got first guy, get promoted on a battlefield, 01:05:22.513 --> 01:05:23.754 [UNKNOWN]: So, that's just cool. 01:05:24.074 --> 01:05:27.656 [UNKNOWN]: He actually looks like the guy that needs to have to just for me, right? 01:05:27.676 --> 01:05:29.357 [UNKNOWN]: You know, he just needs a little man. 01:05:29.638 --> 01:05:30.318 [UNKNOWN]: Fuck, he's cool. 01:05:30.418 --> 01:05:33.300 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, when we got down on the street, he came and got you guys my seals. 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:33.940 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, yes, sir. 01:05:34.060 --> 01:05:34.601 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, all right. 01:05:34.621 --> 01:05:35.301 [UNKNOWN]: So here's his deal. 01:05:35.942 --> 01:05:37.282 [UNKNOWN]: There's a town called suck ass. 01:05:37.342 --> 01:05:39.724 [UNKNOWN]: I probably pronounced that wrong, but it's just called suck ass. 01:05:39.824 --> 01:05:41.925 [UNKNOWN]: Topulation 80,000. 01:05:41.945 --> 01:05:43.907 [UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of bad guys going there and start killing him. 01:05:43.947 --> 01:05:44.247 [UNKNOWN]: And we're like, 01:05:45.240 --> 01:05:45.940 [UNKNOWN]: There's okay. 01:05:46.061 --> 01:05:47.041 [UNKNOWN]: Roger that, General, whatever. 01:05:47.261 --> 01:05:47.602 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:05:47.622 --> 01:05:48.242 [UNKNOWN]: It's a little similar. 01:05:48.262 --> 01:05:49.283 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure. 01:05:49.723 --> 01:05:51.024 [UNKNOWN]: Of course, we're all like, what do you mean? 01:05:51.965 --> 01:05:53.165 [UNKNOWN]: Sound called suckas. 01:05:53.245 --> 01:05:53.826 [UNKNOWN]: Suckas. 01:05:53.866 --> 01:05:54.646 [UNKNOWN]: Population 80,000. 01:05:54.766 --> 01:05:56.608 [UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of bad guys go kill him. 01:05:56.868 --> 01:05:58.229 [UNKNOWN]: Wiper, what's the name of that town? 01:05:58.369 --> 01:05:58.849 [UNKNOWN]: Suckas. 01:05:59.429 --> 01:05:59.750 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:06:00.250 --> 01:06:01.851 [UNKNOWN]: But you know, there was a lot of good times. 01:06:01.931 --> 01:06:02.592 [UNKNOWN]: And then, um... 01:06:03.292 --> 01:06:06.753 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, coming to you was actually a longer road than just coming there. 01:06:07.714 --> 01:06:08.754 [UNKNOWN]: Well, you can't for different reasons. 01:06:08.774 --> 01:06:14.357 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to, you can, yeah, you talk about you because I'm not going to say that like, yeah, um, good shit. 01:06:14.377 --> 01:06:22.500 [UNKNOWN]: So one of my deployments that come back and somebody asked like, hey, they're screened for this special stuff at Warcom and at the time it was Admiral, uh, Callon. 01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:24.621 [UNKNOWN]: Bert Calen great guy. 01:06:25.182 --> 01:06:38.273 [UNKNOWN]: He's past away now, but yeah, very forward thinking and I screen for this program and eventually you get briefed in and like yeah We got this fine fix finish thing that now is becoming important when fine for the next what? 01:06:39.193 --> 01:06:43.095 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, we're really good at the finish, but we need the fine and the fixed figure. 01:06:43.155 --> 01:06:44.796 [UNKNOWN]: True words never spoke. 01:06:45.056 --> 01:06:48.778 [UNKNOWN]: And for those listening finish is just killer capsule, but for seals it's usually kill. 01:06:48.798 --> 01:06:49.498 [UNKNOWN]: We really don't do all that. 01:06:49.518 --> 01:06:50.198 [UNKNOWN]: There's killing capturing. 01:06:50.799 --> 01:06:51.619 [UNKNOWN]: There's other units for that. 01:06:51.899 --> 01:06:56.802 [UNKNOWN]: And then the fine and fix is really fine, is at the time it was very simple, it was a second human. 01:06:56.822 --> 01:06:59.103 [UNKNOWN]: Now you've got a thousand ends that can't even keep track of. 01:07:00.063 --> 01:07:07.148 [UNKNOWN]: And then the fix really boils down to the surveillance or the location and tracking that all it until it's time to kill them, right? 01:07:08.649 --> 01:07:16.555 [UNKNOWN]: And so we built, you know, we did deployments and built all of that portion of NSW. 01:07:17.275 --> 01:07:33.227 [UNKNOWN]: There was basically six of us at Warcom, two of us that were enlisted, the rest were like master chiefs, and then we had a whole ton of contracted C.E.I.C.I.A., D.E.A., you name it, just to get all the flavors and letters in there, and which hurt and help. 01:07:33.607 --> 01:07:34.248 [UNKNOWN]: It does that. 01:07:34.668 --> 01:07:38.411 [UNKNOWN]: But the hurt is worth the help. 01:07:38.451 --> 01:07:39.591 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the juices with the squeeze. 01:07:39.611 --> 01:07:43.654 [UNKNOWN]: Your hope and they can open doors, turns out they can't open any, because they light on their resume and nobody checked it. 01:07:44.535 --> 01:07:56.620 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, you had a room full of guys that knew some stuff and so then we built the fine fix capability for Naval Special Warfare I was in charge of the AFO program and then do you explain a little bit with that? 01:07:56.720 --> 01:08:01.802 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, so advanced force operations is really just getting into areas that are not 01:08:02.742 --> 01:08:03.944 [UNKNOWN]: we are not at war with. 01:08:04.364 --> 01:08:13.355 [UNKNOWN]: So it used to be called OPB, which is operational prep of the battle space Congress changed the name because that alluded to, oh, it's going to be a battle space? 01:08:13.395 --> 01:08:14.076 [UNKNOWN]: Well, no, it's not. 01:08:14.156 --> 01:08:17.560 [UNKNOWN]: So it would switch it to OP, which is operational prep of the environment. 01:08:18.508 --> 01:08:28.593 [UNKNOWN]: And that's just really going in ahead of time and building infrastructure and you're using different kinds of ants to create a foothold that nobody knows about. 01:08:29.013 --> 01:08:32.535 [UNKNOWN]: And then now if something goes down, you can make it happen. 01:08:32.855 --> 01:08:35.757 [UNKNOWN]: And so, it's good, it's really cool that it's fucking awesome. 01:08:35.777 --> 01:08:36.177 [UNKNOWN]: It's really cool. 01:08:36.217 --> 01:08:37.638 [UNKNOWN]: Probably one of the best jobs ever. 01:08:37.698 --> 01:08:38.178 [UNKNOWN]: I think so. 01:08:38.698 --> 01:08:54.190 [UNKNOWN]: One sub piece to that, that where I got to, you know, do for you guys on a somewhat regular basis was what's called RSO and I, which is reception staging, operational integration, yeah, I haven't said that in a while. 01:09:02.697 --> 01:09:16.534 [UNKNOWN]: Set up routes, set up safe sites, set up vehicles, whether you've got a common deerum or biome or whatever, and now I can receive a force off the beach, brief, you know, put them into a vehicle, and the cycle of darkness taken to a safe site. 01:09:16.654 --> 01:09:17.455 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, you know, 01:09:18.536 --> 01:09:30.081 [UNKNOWN]: get brief them up on the target, take them to the target, they clean house, then sanitize them, and then put them back out to see, and you then you go to work the next day whenever you're happy. 01:09:30.741 --> 01:09:38.485 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it took about two years, again, the trust of second deck guys, and then really it was on the set. 01:09:38.565 --> 01:09:38.745 [UNKNOWN]: It was 01:09:39.465 --> 01:09:42.986 [UNKNOWN]: We're in, uh, second deck guys being being, the ceiling six shoes. 01:09:43.006 --> 01:09:43.906 [UNKNOWN]: We caught, we call them. 01:09:44.127 --> 01:09:46.387 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, second deck is a very traditional. 01:09:46.507 --> 01:09:48.748 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a stand for the people as a. Yeah, yeah. 01:09:49.188 --> 01:09:51.529 [UNKNOWN]: Um, those are green teamers. 01:09:51.649 --> 01:09:53.069 [UNKNOWN]: I was not a green teamer. 01:09:53.209 --> 01:09:57.871 [UNKNOWN]: I was pulled from NSA to come do this type of stuff, um, because I had already done it. 01:09:58.311 --> 01:10:01.752 [UNKNOWN]: And, uh, had some successes outside of the fence line. 01:10:02.132 --> 01:10:05.113 [UNKNOWN]: And then so some, basically, the, what is it? 01:10:05.133 --> 01:10:07.514 [UNKNOWN]: The Magnificent 7 or 9 or whatever the master chiefs? 01:10:08.354 --> 01:10:15.237 [UNKNOWN]: came up to NSA and say, I think they call it a mag seven or mag seven and came up. 01:10:15.257 --> 01:10:16.158 [UNKNOWN]: They saw what I was doing. 01:10:16.178 --> 01:10:19.739 [UNKNOWN]: They said, hey, come down with us and so I was like, fuck yeah. 01:10:19.779 --> 01:10:21.640 [UNKNOWN]: No, that's it's such a different. 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:23.461 [UNKNOWN]: It's a such an awesome environment too. 01:10:23.581 --> 01:10:23.761 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:10:23.941 --> 01:10:27.743 [UNKNOWN]: It's it's it's the it's the sexy shit that's not actually. 01:10:27.823 --> 01:10:28.023 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:10:28.263 --> 01:10:31.685 [UNKNOWN]: That the this part of say like this part gets credit like the 01:10:31.925 --> 01:10:37.410 [UNKNOWN]: Actually, I'm trying to think of way to say it because it's bad ass to do it, no credit at all. 01:10:37.450 --> 01:10:41.273 [UNKNOWN]: But it's like, when you're talking about building a battle space, that's just awesome. 01:10:41.533 --> 01:10:41.733 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:10:41.873 --> 01:10:43.775 [UNKNOWN]: You're literally setting everything up. 01:10:44.015 --> 01:10:47.538 [UNKNOWN]: Set everything up so that everybody wins at the end of the day. 01:10:47.618 --> 01:10:50.020 [UNKNOWN]: And it's like, like I said, you can ask for a better job. 01:10:50.580 --> 01:10:51.861 [UNKNOWN]: And you're doing it by yourself. 01:10:51.901 --> 01:10:57.006 [UNKNOWN]: And for me, that was where the prize was because all the success and all the failure resides solely on you. 01:10:57.086 --> 01:10:58.287 [UNKNOWN]: Brilliant. 01:11:00.202 --> 01:11:03.144 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then uh, yeah, it was, here's the funny story. 01:11:03.204 --> 01:11:08.008 [UNKNOWN]: So I, uh, I went and tag a specific boat. 01:11:09.129 --> 01:11:14.954 [UNKNOWN]: And then it was some guys from Silver Squadron come over, never met him before. 01:11:14.974 --> 01:11:17.276 [UNKNOWN]: I get up doing exactly what I do. 01:11:17.316 --> 01:11:20.338 [UNKNOWN]: I brief you guys up, say, hey, this is the, this is how it's going to go. 01:11:20.358 --> 01:11:24.661 [UNKNOWN]: And oh, make sure you take the device with you when you leave the boat after you fucking smoke this guy. 01:11:25.582 --> 01:11:31.965 [UNKNOWN]: And they'll like Roger that and the team later comes up after where he's like, hey man, this is a fucking cool job. 01:11:32.025 --> 01:11:32.646 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I know. 01:11:32.666 --> 01:11:35.067 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, are you ass? 01:11:35.087 --> 01:11:36.808 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, if you do, I'm at the command. 01:11:36.868 --> 01:11:37.048 [UNKNOWN]: I do. 01:11:37.168 --> 01:11:38.488 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, what the fuck? 01:11:38.529 --> 01:11:38.769 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:11:38.989 --> 01:11:39.469 [UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah. 01:11:39.769 --> 01:11:41.030 [UNKNOWN]: No, I do whatever. 01:11:41.830 --> 01:11:43.752 [UNKNOWN]: Not too many of me, but I do what you have. 01:11:43.772 --> 01:11:46.795 [UNKNOWN]: This is my full-time job and he's like, holy shit. 01:11:46.815 --> 01:11:48.696 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then that was the win. 01:11:48.736 --> 01:11:51.959 [UNKNOWN]: And then that story then spread like wildfire. 01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:53.821 [UNKNOWN]: And then at that point, you guys. 01:11:53.901 --> 01:11:55.743 [UNKNOWN]: Well, that was, we got someone's been on both. 01:11:56.965 --> 01:11:57.525 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:11:57.625 --> 01:11:57.946 [UNKNOWN]: Sort of. 01:11:58.006 --> 01:11:59.426 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's kind of what we're going. 01:11:59.466 --> 01:12:00.006 [UNKNOWN]: Definitely. 01:12:00.587 --> 01:12:02.527 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I definitely got to tag some of those. 01:12:03.368 --> 01:12:04.908 [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, just the whole program is doing that. 01:12:05.208 --> 01:12:05.709 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:12:05.729 --> 01:12:12.751 [UNKNOWN]: Like the point of making is there's so many people behind the scenes that are working, that kind of a job that like shooters don't even know. 01:12:12.791 --> 01:12:16.993 [UNKNOWN]: Like the layers below the layers that people at the command don't understand is so cool. 01:12:17.273 --> 01:12:19.776 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a lot going on. 01:12:20.817 --> 01:12:27.485 [UNKNOWN]: And to be part of that at that level, obviously, like dream come true, you know, what a fucking awesome opportunity. 01:12:27.585 --> 01:12:32.290 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm always like, man, that was the life, you know, like it was a good space for a while. 01:12:32.631 --> 01:12:37.396 [UNKNOWN]: You get on a plane, the 100-granded cash, business casual, business class, ready to go. 01:12:37.836 --> 01:12:37.977 [UNKNOWN]: And 01:12:38.819 --> 01:12:39.680 [UNKNOWN]: just go get it done. 01:12:39.900 --> 01:12:46.725 [UNKNOWN]: So when you fly into a spot, let's say you have the cash, and when it's just assume you're building a battle space that we like to say, what do you do? 01:12:46.765 --> 01:12:47.305 [UNKNOWN]: Just can you why? 01:12:47.525 --> 01:12:51.488 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, don't give obviously TTPs, but what, uh, I want to see, here's my cash. 01:12:51.508 --> 01:12:53.190 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go, I'm going to find a house on a pace. 01:12:53.210 --> 01:12:53.590 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:12:53.910 --> 01:13:02.817 [UNKNOWN]: I think probably one of the cooler things I can talk about from a training point of view that was pretty cool is the ultimate goal is how do you take an operator tournament to an operative? 01:13:03.497 --> 01:13:13.785 [UNKNOWN]: So an oscillator is night vision body armor, shoot people on the face and operative is business class, business casual crews in and still killing people, but in a much different way. 01:13:14.646 --> 01:13:24.613 [UNKNOWN]: So you really what you're doing is what we kind of coined going back in our seal history is more of a naked warrior concept. 01:13:24.773 --> 01:13:31.739 [UNKNOWN]: The naked warrior of World War II was your UDTs, your knife, your mask, and a haversack, right? 01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:34.861 [UNKNOWN]: So what's the modern version of that? 01:13:35.001 --> 01:13:46.111 [UNKNOWN]: It's a guy that you educate really well in tradecraft who has a very devious mind and then has the ability to be creative on the fly under pressure overseas by himself. 01:13:46.471 --> 01:13:49.954 [UNKNOWN]: And so we would, I give you examples. 01:13:49.994 --> 01:13:55.959 [UNKNOWN]: Like I one time I could go to the suit and purchase an answering machine. 01:13:57.288 --> 01:14:04.513 [UNKNOWN]: And that answering machine, all the answer machines have what's called a DTMF board inside. 01:14:04.753 --> 01:14:09.076 [UNKNOWN]: That's a dual-tone multi-frequency board on that board are relays. 01:14:09.336 --> 01:14:13.879 [UNKNOWN]: Now, when I call that answering machine, and I want to listen to my messages, I'm going to press one. 01:14:14.459 --> 01:14:16.921 [UNKNOWN]: That's when I flip a switch inside relay number one. 01:14:17.401 --> 01:14:18.142 [UNKNOWN]: Lounge it play. 01:14:18.622 --> 01:14:22.184 [UNKNOWN]: You can do two for rewine, fast forward or ready race, whatever. 01:14:22.245 --> 01:14:24.706 [UNKNOWN]: So all those relays have a function inside that 01:14:26.931 --> 01:14:31.555 [UNKNOWN]: Well, being a naked warrior, I go, oh, I can weaponize that, right? 01:14:32.075 --> 01:14:34.737 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so now I can take that answer machine apart. 01:14:34.757 --> 01:14:36.419 [UNKNOWN]: I can take the DTMF board out. 01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:39.061 [UNKNOWN]: I can take a burner phone, flip phone. 01:14:39.201 --> 01:14:41.583 [UNKNOWN]: It has auto answer on the line in. 01:14:42.263 --> 01:14:47.648 [UNKNOWN]: Now I can take the line out to those relay's and put them on whatever I want. 01:14:48.028 --> 01:14:54.233 [UNKNOWN]: So now when I call the phone on auto answer press, one relay one does what I want to whatever I put it on. 01:14:55.075 --> 01:14:55.355 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:14:55.535 --> 01:14:55.775 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:14:55.955 --> 01:14:57.236 [UNKNOWN]: Now, I don't need black boxes. 01:14:57.296 --> 01:14:58.676 [UNKNOWN]: I don't need np7s. 01:14:58.716 --> 01:14:59.537 [UNKNOWN]: I don't need shit. 01:14:59.757 --> 01:15:00.797 [UNKNOWN]: I can go to your car. 01:15:01.517 --> 01:15:02.578 [UNKNOWN]: I can break into it. 01:15:03.238 --> 01:15:11.601 [UNKNOWN]: And then I can hook all this up to the fuses inside of that vehicle and pull off what we kind of coined the phrase of Venus fly trap. 01:15:11.841 --> 01:15:15.702 [UNKNOWN]: So now the bad guy comes out Obama was big on positive ID. 01:15:15.963 --> 01:15:16.203 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 01:15:16.223 --> 01:15:17.083 [UNKNOWN]: So PID. 01:15:17.123 --> 01:15:17.403 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 01:15:17.483 --> 01:15:18.163 [UNKNOWN]: I see him. 01:15:18.944 --> 01:15:20.524 [UNKNOWN]: You know, on comms, hey, can I do it? 01:15:20.544 --> 01:15:21.324 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, you can do it. 01:15:23.685 --> 01:15:40.912 [UNKNOWN]: the fuel pump, bring that car to a stop inside of an alley, right where I want them on the X, then I can press 2, his steering wheel airbags, smashes him in the face, and then, you know, the second part is four guys, Venus fly trap, come in. 01:15:42.315 --> 01:15:42.736 [UNKNOWN]: and he's gone. 01:15:43.156 --> 01:15:43.396 [UNKNOWN]: Wow. 01:15:43.737 --> 01:15:43.937 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:15:44.337 --> 01:15:44.998 [UNKNOWN]: Not a bad deal. 01:15:45.679 --> 01:15:47.842 [UNKNOWN]: That's brilliant. 01:15:47.942 --> 01:15:50.805 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just over thinking about how cool this sound by it is, man. 01:15:52.367 --> 01:15:55.171 [UNKNOWN]: No, that's, no, that's incredible because that is outside the bus. 01:15:55.231 --> 01:15:57.253 [UNKNOWN]: But that's creativity with him. 01:15:57.273 --> 01:15:58.975 [UNKNOWN]: I airbag is so creative. 01:15:59.055 --> 01:15:59.616 [UNKNOWN]: That's brilliant. 01:15:59.776 --> 01:16:06.522 [UNKNOWN]: And the point being is like no it is a naked warrior at that level is I can send you overseas. 01:16:06.542 --> 01:16:09.264 [UNKNOWN]: So what does that mean you're buying your buying an instrument seen a soldering iron. 01:16:09.424 --> 01:16:16.470 [UNKNOWN]: You're going to have to buy some fuses for the vehicle and break the fuse before it because you're replacing the fuse the broken fuse with leads coming off. 01:16:16.670 --> 01:16:21.474 [UNKNOWN]: And now you've got control and it's but the reality is it's no different than what terrorists were doing. 01:16:21.494 --> 01:16:26.378 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're taking the same exact board but they're put it on IEDs and controlling IEDs the same exact way. 01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:33.323 [UNKNOWN]: And, um, but you can use it for covert clanship all day long, but what was that training? 01:16:33.383 --> 01:16:34.343 [UNKNOWN]: Well, that's B.W.E. 01:16:34.443 --> 01:16:36.064 [UNKNOWN]: It's basically electronic electricity. 01:16:36.084 --> 01:16:47.351 [UNKNOWN]: You're teaching a MACDC, you know, difference between the two and giving them of that education, which is key and making them a master where the fucking soldering iron and they can still pull off the same thing as 22 dudes. 01:16:47.771 --> 01:16:48.411 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, with guns. 01:16:48.451 --> 01:16:49.132 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, seriously. 01:16:49.292 --> 01:16:51.273 [UNKNOWN]: But you're doing it in a place where there is no war. 01:16:53.021 --> 01:16:55.243 [UNKNOWN]: And I think stuff like that happens a lot more than people realize. 01:16:55.703 --> 01:16:56.544 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, everywhere. 01:16:56.924 --> 01:17:00.887 [UNKNOWN]: I would, because we don't have the, we don't have the only Intel services. 01:17:02.108 --> 01:17:04.910 [UNKNOWN]: And I think that actually if you get high enough, they kind of work together. 01:17:05.370 --> 01:17:05.590 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:17:05.991 --> 01:17:06.591 [UNKNOWN]: Way up there. 01:17:06.871 --> 01:17:07.052 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:17:07.352 --> 01:17:07.592 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:17:08.312 --> 01:17:08.513 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:17:08.693 --> 01:17:09.333 [UNKNOWN]: That's not so. 01:17:09.373 --> 01:17:11.435 [UNKNOWN]: So you got to Afghanistan too then. 01:17:12.023 --> 01:17:12.503 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, a little bit. 01:17:12.663 --> 01:17:12.863 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:17:13.064 --> 01:17:15.825 [UNKNOWN]: That was part of a different program that you know about, but we can't. 01:17:15.985 --> 01:17:16.345 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:17:16.405 --> 01:17:17.145 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:17:17.205 --> 01:17:17.425 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:17:17.445 --> 01:17:21.147 [UNKNOWN]: Cause at the command, I'm going to bring this up because it's out there now. 01:17:21.187 --> 01:17:23.168 [UNKNOWN]: You don't, you're not on social media a lot now, but. 01:17:24.288 --> 01:17:47.516 [UNKNOWN]: uh... our command my ex-quater was i wasn't there was a vault of the tucker guard robber's rich and so now there's the big uh... john chatman britz lebin ski metal on a metal of on a recipient uh... slab is a legend yeah uh... i i wasn't there for that i have a hard time talking much and i wasn't there for yeah uh... it's a tough one i don't know why people are are opening this back up right now 01:17:48.205 --> 01:17:50.070 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have something to do with a movie or something. 01:17:50.110 --> 01:17:51.152 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there isn't movie coming out. 01:17:51.192 --> 01:17:56.906 [UNKNOWN]: I think Ron Howard directed a loan at Don, which is the book about Chappy, which is a fan to have read a twice. 01:17:57.912 --> 01:17:59.853 [UNKNOWN]: I don't even understand where the description I don't know. 01:17:59.873 --> 01:18:07.477 [UNKNOWN]: I saw a clip where Mitch Hall was just said, I think he was asked a question like, does he deserve the metal ball? 01:18:07.497 --> 01:18:10.198 [UNKNOWN]: He was basically like, no, he doesn't necessarily said. 01:18:10.878 --> 01:18:11.439 [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't there. 01:18:11.559 --> 01:18:14.900 [UNKNOWN]: And I guess the argument is the footage was edited. 01:18:15.160 --> 01:18:18.162 [UNKNOWN]: The footage that we've seen that shows John Chapman fighting out of the... 01:18:19.357 --> 01:18:21.118 [UNKNOWN]: Trench your original footage horrible? 01:18:21.258 --> 01:18:23.180 [UNKNOWN]: I guess I don't get couldn't see through the cloud. 01:18:23.300 --> 01:18:23.940 [UNKNOWN]: I guess. 01:18:23.980 --> 01:18:28.704 [UNKNOWN]: But my whole thing is now, I hate to see people who weren't even close to their being subject matter experts. 01:18:29.364 --> 01:18:30.665 [UNKNOWN]: Bristol Biscuit was right there. 01:18:30.985 --> 01:18:33.587 [UNKNOWN]: And I remember hearing the story from him, right? 01:18:33.647 --> 01:18:34.948 [UNKNOWN]: Not right after, but after. 01:18:35.088 --> 01:18:37.090 [UNKNOWN]: And I've never seen survivors guilt that bad. 01:18:37.690 --> 01:18:40.632 [UNKNOWN]: But I remember him saying, Chapman was dead, and we have to get off his mountain. 01:18:41.033 --> 01:18:42.554 [UNKNOWN]: I just say, I hate to see people get in the view. 01:18:43.074 --> 01:18:45.396 [UNKNOWN]: If you weren't there, how do you know and drag his name to the mud? 01:18:46.076 --> 01:18:46.317 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:18:46.457 --> 01:18:47.157 [UNKNOWN]: That's my question. 01:18:48.564 --> 01:18:53.730 [UNKNOWN]: The overhead that I saw before it was public, you couldn't even make out what was going on. 01:18:54.530 --> 01:18:57.353 [UNKNOWN]: It's like a fucking blizzard, right? 01:18:57.453 --> 01:18:58.595 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, everything was shit. 01:18:58.715 --> 01:18:59.375 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so. 01:18:59.956 --> 01:19:02.719 [UNKNOWN]: Well, then they're saying, we pixelated. 01:19:02.739 --> 01:19:03.280 [UNKNOWN]: What do you mean? 01:19:04.141 --> 01:19:05.282 [UNKNOWN]: But they look like, I don't know. 01:19:05.342 --> 01:19:06.883 [UNKNOWN]: It's a tough one that I don't think if you were there. 01:19:07.524 --> 01:19:12.849 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think especially being that vehement against guys who were there because I know guys got shot turbo got his leg blown off. 01:19:13.730 --> 01:19:17.193 [UNKNOWN]: And I've been shot at, but not that close with PKMs. 01:19:17.213 --> 01:19:21.637 [UNKNOWN]: Like you, you're, slides making a decision in the dark in the snow at night after losing a guy. 01:19:22.157 --> 01:19:22.618 [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm. 01:19:22.658 --> 01:19:24.219 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, I mean to, to say something. 01:19:25.180 --> 01:19:25.941 [UNKNOWN]: It's a coward. 01:19:25.981 --> 01:19:28.083 [UNKNOWN]: That's, yeah, it's a tough. 01:19:28.123 --> 01:19:29.424 [UNKNOWN]: Slibinski is a fucking stud. 01:19:29.544 --> 01:19:29.764 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:19:29.985 --> 01:19:31.106 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm going to, I'll say that. 01:19:31.146 --> 01:19:32.527 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was a fucking stud. 01:19:32.567 --> 01:19:35.790 [UNKNOWN]: And he was one of the master chiefs. 01:19:35.850 --> 01:19:40.194 [UNKNOWN]: I think he was one of them that came up to NSA and pulled me out of there. 01:19:40.434 --> 01:19:40.634 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:19:40.854 --> 01:19:43.056 [UNKNOWN]: Because he was, it was the base. 01:19:43.076 --> 01:19:45.078 [UNKNOWN]: I hold a mass chiefs of the, yeah, right. 01:19:45.098 --> 01:19:46.679 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that. 01:19:46.700 --> 01:19:47.680 [UNKNOWN]: But I, I mean, he's a badass. 01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:51.664 [UNKNOWN]: And just to, I mean, I know there's family issues, but I don't think it's any of our business. 01:19:53.001 --> 01:19:53.842 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, the families are. 01:19:54.282 --> 01:19:59.865 [UNKNOWN]: Well, John Cham's family's obviously involved and I I want to be as fair to everyone as I can. 01:19:59.905 --> 01:20:01.566 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not I don't have an opinion other than 01:20:03.115 --> 01:20:05.857 [UNKNOWN]: probably shouldn't be driving people through the mud over this shit, right? 01:20:06.178 --> 01:20:11.462 [UNKNOWN]: Well, what was the other thing that just came up with another team guy and well with the slab thing? 01:20:11.622 --> 01:20:11.802 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:20:11.982 --> 01:20:24.413 [UNKNOWN]: No, they said there's more footage and one of the guys that was there Andy stuff had it on clear the clear hot podcast and they're just saying there's more footage and what Andy saying is he's just trying to watch all of it and there's a difference in them guys that were there since something else. 01:20:25.234 --> 01:20:26.295 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't know John Chapman. 01:20:27.918 --> 01:20:31.160 [UNKNOWN]: He ran at a machine gun nest and he's awarded a medal one. 01:20:31.180 --> 01:20:32.320 [UNKNOWN]: I have no problem with that. 01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:41.064 [UNKNOWN]: That's a story and get and if his family says hey at the medal one of you is him his his Stand or his Memorials too far than move it up. 01:20:41.905 --> 01:20:42.265 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know 01:20:43.530 --> 01:20:57.018 [UNKNOWN]: This goes back to a bigger question and you know, you and I were talking about eras as team guys and the competitive nature out here, yes, you know, in the civilian sector and I try to steer clear of all of it. 01:20:57.138 --> 01:20:58.039 [UNKNOWN]: It's a good idea. 01:20:58.119 --> 01:20:58.499 [UNKNOWN]: You get. 01:20:59.500 --> 01:21:14.294 [UNKNOWN]: I get hammered quite a bit and then I don't understand why I don't know how you That was yeah, that's a weird one because when I I said on a podcast recently I followed a brave guy into a room at the top of stairs going to die so he wouldn't die alone And he jumped on suicide. 01:21:14.314 --> 01:21:15.255 [UNKNOWN]: I've always I shoot in a lot. 01:21:15.295 --> 01:21:21.582 [UNKNOWN]: It's like I don't understand what part of like everything before that's a pretty good record I have a silver star and four bronze stars with valor in gun fights 01:21:22.082 --> 01:21:24.704 [UNKNOWN]: Well, now you have a letter from a Craven it's a confirmed kill now. 01:21:24.984 --> 01:21:30.929 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like they forced you have They couldn't they forced me to confirm a kill and my only kill is a song a bit loud. 01:21:30.949 --> 01:21:31.569 [UNKNOWN]: It was just hilarious. 01:21:31.589 --> 01:21:40.316 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you had a little run in with some some of the after math some of the yeah, I want to get into that because 01:21:41.116 --> 01:21:42.157 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you've been telling me this. 01:21:42.177 --> 01:21:44.418 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't even know what was really story. 01:21:44.578 --> 01:21:45.498 [UNKNOWN]: It was my departure. 01:21:45.818 --> 01:21:47.139 [UNKNOWN]: Like out of the Navy, it was horrible. 01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:55.382 [UNKNOWN]: So like you do 20 years and that last year, or roughly close to, yeah, you can put your retirement paperwork in 24 months out. 01:21:57.023 --> 01:22:14.351 [UNKNOWN]: Most people do so that you can start working on what your next life is going to be and so I had that paperwork turned in And everyone you know, but you know the command that you still working, but everyone kind of knows all right put in for retirement Yeah, so somewhere in the middle of that 01:22:15.283 --> 01:22:34.328 [UNKNOWN]: this book comes out ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 01:22:34.746 --> 01:22:52.753 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, what is this why and he's like, I don't know, and so I'm sitting at home now and like a week goes by and I'm not hearing anything from my, my, and you're still home, my master chief, my CEO, my troop chief, you know, 01:23:00.555 --> 01:23:09.317 [UNKNOWN]: Many finally calls me maybe a week or two into it and like, hey, yeah, still don't know much, but can you beat me at the grocery store outside at courthouse of states? 01:23:10.022 --> 01:23:10.922 [UNKNOWN]: He's a food line or something. 01:23:11.182 --> 01:23:11.723 [UNKNOWN]: Not the food line. 01:23:11.743 --> 01:23:12.263 [UNKNOWN]: What's the other one? 01:23:12.283 --> 01:23:19.726 [UNKNOWN]: It's an East Coast one nicer nicer nicer than food line blasted it Anyway, it's a rainy day. 01:23:19.806 --> 01:23:20.967 [UNKNOWN]: Pull into the parking lot. 01:23:21.087 --> 01:23:22.047 [UNKNOWN]: Jumping his car. 01:23:22.547 --> 01:23:23.128 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, I got it. 01:23:23.228 --> 01:23:24.348 [UNKNOWN]: I got to take all your creds. 01:23:24.488 --> 01:23:25.148 [UNKNOWN]: I got to take your bat. 01:23:25.168 --> 01:23:27.369 [UNKNOWN]: You badge and everything to get into the command. 01:23:27.389 --> 01:23:28.210 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, what? 01:23:28.650 --> 01:23:31.091 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, yeah Like what the fuck is going on? 01:23:31.111 --> 01:23:33.052 [UNKNOWN]: He's like what the fuck is I have no idea. 01:23:33.092 --> 01:23:33.392 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm like 01:23:34.592 --> 01:23:35.813 [UNKNOWN]: take it off, give it to him. 01:23:35.873 --> 01:23:37.234 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, holy shit. 01:23:37.254 --> 01:23:38.075 [UNKNOWN]: This feels now. 01:23:38.095 --> 01:23:39.316 [UNKNOWN]: It feels, this is serious. 01:23:39.376 --> 01:23:40.257 [UNKNOWN]: Now it feels worse. 01:23:40.337 --> 01:23:41.578 [UNKNOWN]: You know, there's almost criminal. 01:23:41.658 --> 01:23:42.599 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, just go home. 01:23:42.839 --> 01:23:43.580 [UNKNOWN]: I'll keep you in the lip. 01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:44.081 [UNKNOWN]: Go home. 01:23:45.462 --> 01:23:48.625 [UNKNOWN]: Weeks go by weeks, just seem like or whatever. 01:23:48.685 --> 01:23:49.065 [UNKNOWN]: Whatever. 01:23:49.225 --> 01:23:49.826 [UNKNOWN]: And then, uh, 01:23:52.388 --> 01:23:57.632 [UNKNOWN]: get another, so yeah, no, actually it was like a month or two of this like house arresting with no word. 01:23:58.152 --> 01:24:05.958 [UNKNOWN]: So in the middle of that, I call, you know, Louis Free, who is a retired director of the FBI. 01:24:05.998 --> 01:24:09.140 [UNKNOWN]: He's a retired federal judge and he's just a good American. 01:24:10.153 --> 01:24:15.917 [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, hey, you know, I don't know what's going on here, but I feel like I got a lawyer up in some form of a hundred percent. 01:24:15.937 --> 01:24:16.057 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:24:16.278 --> 01:24:18.119 [UNKNOWN]: And so Louie was like, no problem. 01:24:18.139 --> 01:24:18.639 [UNKNOWN]: I got you. 01:24:18.659 --> 01:24:28.686 [UNKNOWN]: And Louie's reputation, sealed communities when those teammate guys turned over a detainee to the CIA and then the detainee conveniently died after being given. 01:24:29.067 --> 01:24:34.451 [UNKNOWN]: And so the teammate guys were then taken to court for supposedly detainee abuse or some shit like that. 01:24:35.091 --> 01:24:57.329 [UNKNOWN]: and Lou we walked into the courtroom and you know everybody knew who it was and they dropped the case and against those guys but that so then I had heard that story so that's why I got them on my team and he was he was like the voice reason, the voice of calmness, I mean great dude he talked to me every day like hey it can't be that bad everything's gonna be alright and whatever it is we will face when it happens you're gonna be fine 01:24:57.789 --> 01:25:00.851 [UNKNOWN]: Because I was like, I couldn't think of anything I'd done wrong, you know? 01:25:00.911 --> 01:25:01.952 [UNKNOWN]: You hadn't done anything wrong. 01:25:02.012 --> 01:25:02.252 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:25:03.012 --> 01:25:05.854 [UNKNOWN]: So, finally, I get a call. 01:25:05.954 --> 01:25:11.017 [UNKNOWN]: This is like a month or two and I probably lost 20 pounds sitting in my house, stressing the fuck out. 01:25:11.958 --> 01:25:17.061 [UNKNOWN]: And it's like, yeah, I've got to come in, you know, and I'm going to sit down with the investigator and I'm like, I'm like, best of gear. 01:25:17.141 --> 01:25:18.101 [UNKNOWN]: Like, anybody told? 01:25:18.121 --> 01:25:18.522 [UNKNOWN]: Like, no. 01:25:18.542 --> 01:25:19.022 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, 01:25:19.522 --> 01:25:20.143 [UNKNOWN]: So I go in. 01:25:20.163 --> 01:25:21.765 [UNKNOWN]: I got checking at the visitor center. 01:25:22.205 --> 01:25:24.047 [UNKNOWN]: I get escorted to the MWR. 01:25:24.067 --> 01:25:24.488 [UNKNOWN]: Shitting me. 01:25:24.588 --> 01:25:25.949 [UNKNOWN]: escorted to MWR. 01:25:25.969 --> 01:25:27.011 [UNKNOWN]: That thing on the old. 01:25:27.051 --> 01:25:28.332 [UNKNOWN]: We are opening up the new building. 01:25:28.672 --> 01:25:29.253 [UNKNOWN]: Now I'm over here. 01:25:30.194 --> 01:25:31.836 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's where the plumbers go. 01:25:31.856 --> 01:25:32.997 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's literally. 01:25:33.017 --> 01:25:35.200 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and wives for to get briefed on that. 01:25:35.220 --> 01:25:35.400 [UNKNOWN]: They do. 01:25:35.420 --> 01:25:38.984 [UNKNOWN]: That's where we have the, yeah, I was, yeah, I was awarded a silver star on that building. 01:25:39.024 --> 01:25:39.885 [UNKNOWN]: That's where the wives come in. 01:25:41.146 --> 01:25:44.670 [UNKNOWN]: So I go in there and they sit down, they got this big, free-ring binder. 01:25:44.690 --> 01:25:46.812 [UNKNOWN]: And I kind of see you with the pages. 01:25:46.832 --> 01:25:48.494 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just like, yeah, I know what that is. 01:25:48.534 --> 01:25:51.417 [UNKNOWN]: Because I started my retirement company. 01:25:52.377 --> 01:25:55.521 [UNKNOWN]: And so they're going, so did you start a company called Escape the Wolf? 01:25:55.541 --> 01:25:56.241 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, yep. 01:25:57.102 --> 01:25:58.343 [UNKNOWN]: like, are you making any money? 01:25:58.823 --> 01:25:59.203 [UNKNOWN]: Like, no. 01:25:59.563 --> 01:26:00.864 [UNKNOWN]: I just got the website going on. 01:26:00.884 --> 01:26:01.744 [UNKNOWN]: Started this game. 01:26:01.824 --> 01:26:05.046 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just I got all the infrastructure set up. 01:26:05.306 --> 01:26:05.546 [UNKNOWN]: Hmm. 01:26:05.766 --> 01:26:14.190 [UNKNOWN]: They keep flipping and like do you have this like, you know, zero trace, which is this fairer day bags and stuff, I was saying, like, yep, maybe made any money off that? 01:26:14.230 --> 01:26:17.372 [UNKNOWN]: No, this is all just being built for retirement, you know? 01:26:18.404 --> 01:26:19.685 [UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, that's the problem. 01:26:19.705 --> 01:26:25.971 [UNKNOWN]: You know, if you have any outside forms of income going on, we need to know about my, but I'm not making money. 01:26:25.991 --> 01:26:26.591 [UNKNOWN]: I don't have any. 01:26:26.651 --> 01:26:28.052 [UNKNOWN]: Well, we need to know about that this. 01:26:28.072 --> 01:26:30.314 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, yeah, I already filled out a chip. 01:26:30.995 --> 01:26:34.858 [UNKNOWN]: I had a chip that said, respectfully request to start my retirement company. 01:26:34.878 --> 01:26:38.481 [UNKNOWN]: Sign by, sign by all five of my head shit. 01:26:38.501 --> 01:26:40.743 [UNKNOWN]: They're like, he looks about at the bottom of your head. 01:26:40.763 --> 01:26:41.524 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, what? 01:26:42.184 --> 01:26:43.966 [UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, I already got approval for all this. 01:26:45.300 --> 01:26:51.165 [UNKNOWN]: They're like, and I was like, is that, is that what we're worried about for weeks or months of months of getting home? 01:26:51.225 --> 01:26:54.787 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and they're like, well, we'll have to get back to you close the line right now. 01:26:54.807 --> 01:26:56.709 [UNKNOWN]: That's the end time for me to go, right? 01:26:57.269 --> 01:27:01.353 [UNKNOWN]: I go back home, give Louis an update, and he's just like, man, your community. 01:27:01.613 --> 01:27:03.274 [UNKNOWN]: He goes, I don't understand you guys. 01:27:03.334 --> 01:27:08.218 [UNKNOWN]: I don't like, and so then finally, I get the story. 01:27:09.245 --> 01:27:14.166 [UNKNOWN]: The story is, the CEO at the time had gotten a call from the Joint Chiefs. 01:27:14.566 --> 01:27:15.066 [UNKNOWN]: That's not good. 01:27:15.486 --> 01:27:26.668 [UNKNOWN]: And it was like, Captain, why are your men getting out and writing books on top secret operations or covert operations? 01:27:26.708 --> 01:27:27.509 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right. 01:27:28.269 --> 01:27:30.789 [UNKNOWN]: And of course, the CEO at the times like what? 01:27:31.169 --> 01:27:34.670 [UNKNOWN]: And the CEO comes from a family generations 01:27:35.623 --> 01:27:37.825 [UNKNOWN]: Admiral, so me and Admiral for him was very important. 01:27:37.845 --> 01:27:40.867 [UNKNOWN]: His grandfather was an Admiral, his dad was an Admiral now. 01:27:40.907 --> 01:27:42.608 [UNKNOWN]: He's about, he was facing it. 01:27:42.628 --> 01:27:49.252 [UNKNOWN]: If your COC team's actually going to make Admiral, unless something like this could derail a entire fucking line, yeah. 01:27:49.332 --> 01:27:50.733 [UNKNOWN]: And your legacy and your family, yeah. 01:27:50.873 --> 01:28:00.320 [UNKNOWN]: That dude went into total, fucking annihilation mode of anybody and everybody that he could that he had control over inside the fence line. 01:28:01.220 --> 01:28:12.905 [UNKNOWN]: So what it turns out is I was one of probably 20ish dudes who had been ID of having like extracurricular activities or else outside sources of funding. 01:28:13.785 --> 01:28:14.485 [UNKNOWN]: But didn't happen. 01:28:14.505 --> 01:28:17.267 [UNKNOWN]: It turns out I was the only one who had permission. 01:28:18.527 --> 01:28:25.430 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, if it wasn't for my deputy in Black Squadron who was an army guy, the army's good on paperwork, he was like, make sure you. 01:28:25.570 --> 01:28:30.092 [UNKNOWN]: And also, and also after my experience with seals and army guy might have my back. 01:28:30.672 --> 01:28:38.196 [UNKNOWN]: Like shit, so if it wasn't for the army guy who loved admins stuff, you know, telling me to fill that out. 01:28:38.556 --> 01:28:39.096 [UNKNOWN]: Thanks, Chris. 01:28:39.577 --> 01:28:43.378 [UNKNOWN]: I would have probably been, you know, tried and pulled and who knows how it would have gone. 01:28:43.398 --> 01:28:43.739 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:52.643 [UNKNOWN]: But fortunately, that was kind of the end of the story for me, but the rest of the story goes on where you got 19 other dudes who now are getting looked at for all kinds. 01:28:52.663 --> 01:28:54.024 [UNKNOWN]: You had guys that were, um, 01:28:55.386 --> 01:29:18.360 [UNKNOWN]: had like they're renting their house or two out that they owned and that oh you didn't report that you were collecting that money and they got trouble there was a renting a house again trouble all kinds of stuff I think one guy had like a stump grinding business on the side there's not doing anything yeah and it's like pay us more there was some there was a bunch of hokey stuff and but the big ones were the guys that 01:29:19.405 --> 01:29:35.925 [UNKNOWN]: went and uh... did something for a bit i think it was it call for duty or call it's called all of duty is a call for a call of duty i'm going to look it up because of the call of duty right now they're screaming at us watching this because we don't know what it is i'm saying i'm i stopped playing it because kids were picking my ass 01:29:36.706 --> 01:29:42.148 [UNKNOWN]: It's called so the call for duty or it's call of duty call of duty. 01:29:42.168 --> 01:29:46.350 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it's original title is call of duty seal team 6. 01:29:47.330 --> 01:29:57.134 [UNKNOWN]: It came out and hit the shelves, but these guys that you just see them says guys it helped team says guys went to a gas black water they rented out a kill house. 01:29:58.194 --> 01:30:05.496 [UNKNOWN]: and they got, had up these special like video so that it would turn them into characters. 01:30:05.536 --> 01:30:11.617 [UNKNOWN]: It's a much easier way to take their movements and film their movements and then that way you can apply it to the game. 01:30:12.337 --> 01:30:22.279 [UNKNOWN]: So they filmed other movements in a killhouse with these special cameras and RCI guys, you know, fast forward, the game is already out. 01:30:22.839 --> 01:30:24.640 [UNKNOWN]: In the CI guys at the command 01:30:27.757 --> 01:30:30.058 [UNKNOWN]: And when they would zoom, I didn't know any of this. 01:30:30.878 --> 01:30:32.918 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the C-I guys, the command figure this whole thing out. 01:30:32.978 --> 01:30:34.298 [UNKNOWN]: Get the fuck out of here, really. 01:30:34.338 --> 01:30:35.279 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't know any of this. 01:30:35.319 --> 01:30:39.960 [UNKNOWN]: So on the game, you could zoom in on the serial numbers of the rifles. 01:30:40.780 --> 01:30:43.160 [UNKNOWN]: And so then they backtrack the serial numbers. 01:30:43.340 --> 01:30:44.760 [UNKNOWN]: You know how to have an annuals in real quick. 01:30:44.780 --> 01:30:45.181 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah. 01:30:45.201 --> 01:30:46.181 [UNKNOWN]: Wait, now this is what I heard. 01:30:46.201 --> 01:30:47.581 [UNKNOWN]: So then, no, that's what fucking happened. 01:30:47.601 --> 01:30:47.821 [UNKNOWN]: That's all. 01:30:47.841 --> 01:30:57.183 [UNKNOWN]: So the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show 01:30:58.400 --> 01:31:02.802 [UNKNOWN]: So Matt, I think, yeah, he was, he said, hey, guys is a good deal. 01:31:02.822 --> 01:31:05.082 [UNKNOWN]: Everybody gets something like that. 01:31:05.262 --> 01:31:07.643 [UNKNOWN]: And so they all went down there. 01:31:07.663 --> 01:31:09.364 [UNKNOWN]: I think there's like a couple of days of filming. 01:31:09.504 --> 01:31:11.825 [UNKNOWN]: And one of the guys is a friend of mine. 01:31:12.305 --> 01:31:14.466 [UNKNOWN]: So that's how I mean, I heard it straight from one of them. 01:31:14.926 --> 01:31:18.347 [UNKNOWN]: I think they got, it was like a whopping 3,000 bucks for their time or something like that. 01:31:19.232 --> 01:31:23.735 [UNKNOWN]: But in, you know, in retrospect, you didn't worth a dishonorable discharge for that shit. 01:31:24.175 --> 01:31:25.176 [UNKNOWN]: That's worse than anything. 01:31:25.216 --> 01:31:35.063 [UNKNOWN]: Some of the guys got definitely got their trident's pulled and we're like, told, hey, you're going to sweep the quarter deck for a year and then once the year was up, they were, you know, you're going to see out the sea later. 01:31:35.263 --> 01:31:42.028 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, kind of made the, you know, have your Celtics shooter at the level of being picked by a guy on the bin Laden rate to make a video game, you're pretty senior yourself. 01:31:42.428 --> 01:31:42.648 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:31:42.728 --> 01:31:44.890 [UNKNOWN]: And if you get, if you're on quarter day, we'll watch without a 01:31:46.910 --> 01:31:47.110 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:31:47.991 --> 01:31:48.771 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's awful. 01:31:48.811 --> 01:31:51.773 [UNKNOWN]: That was that was it was a whole lineup of dudes all kinds of that. 01:31:51.793 --> 01:31:53.634 [UNKNOWN]: Were these guys on the bin Laden rate or how many? 01:31:53.935 --> 01:31:54.675 [UNKNOWN]: Was there I don't know. 01:31:55.756 --> 01:31:56.816 [UNKNOWN]: You would I don't know. 01:31:56.856 --> 01:31:58.497 [UNKNOWN]: You'd probably know if any of those. 01:31:58.518 --> 01:32:01.680 [UNKNOWN]: I remember a couple guys went because I was getting out of the Navy at this time. 01:32:02.200 --> 01:32:03.601 [UNKNOWN]: But Bistan asked me to do it. 01:32:03.621 --> 01:32:05.122 [UNKNOWN]: I could have used three grand. 01:32:05.142 --> 01:32:06.102 [UNKNOWN]: Get out of the Navy of 16. 01:32:06.202 --> 01:32:08.644 [UNKNOWN]: I just wonder if free grand was really worth it. 01:32:08.764 --> 01:32:09.685 [UNKNOWN]: No saw worth it. 01:32:09.705 --> 01:32:13.667 [UNKNOWN]: But now I you did tell me something earlier at the very end of the game. 01:32:13.967 --> 01:32:14.548 [UNKNOWN]: Allegedly. 01:32:14.968 --> 01:32:27.077 [UNKNOWN]: So, you fast so once they, I think it was the CI guys at the command that on the game number one, they didn't like the name of being called Sealtime Six. 01:32:27.137 --> 01:32:28.638 [UNKNOWN]: That was number one. 01:32:28.658 --> 01:32:31.720 [UNKNOWN]: Number two, you had an option of a Tomahawk. 01:32:32.041 --> 01:32:33.882 [UNKNOWN]: So you could start doing Tomahawk kills. 01:32:34.022 --> 01:32:34.823 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and blood. 01:32:35.603 --> 01:32:47.694 [UNKNOWN]: It's close and weapon technically and you only you know if that's a method or not and then as far as I know it's actually a man Okay, I have a Tomahawk here somewhere and I don't care I didn't care it's a waste of what you did not get a Tomahawk I have one yeah, I have one here. 01:32:47.714 --> 01:32:48.034 [UNKNOWN]: I have one here. 01:32:48.094 --> 01:32:52.258 [UNKNOWN]: I'm a kill no, I didn't I wouldn't I didn't care do you know anybody ever had I actually don't 01:32:53.098 --> 01:32:55.779 [UNKNOWN]: I know you hear things you're not even in the fix line. 01:32:55.799 --> 01:32:59.380 [UNKNOWN]: I thought you guys I had to run on the red car Did you ever do red contacts? 01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:03.202 [UNKNOWN]: I don't have this twenty thousand dollar set of titanium teeth. 01:33:03.522 --> 01:33:09.284 [UNKNOWN]: No, I heard the gold team guys on the hostage rescue attempt on a on a yacht 01:33:09.884 --> 01:33:11.606 [UNKNOWN]: where they had already killed the smallest article. 01:33:11.746 --> 01:33:12.567 [UNKNOWN]: I remember that one. 01:33:12.587 --> 01:33:16.071 [UNKNOWN]: I heard that he actually got a Tom Hawke killed because they win in close. 01:33:16.292 --> 01:33:16.872 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:33:17.072 --> 01:33:17.713 [UNKNOWN]: And he's a bet. 01:33:17.733 --> 01:33:18.594 [UNKNOWN]: He died in exhaustion. 01:33:18.875 --> 01:33:19.155 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:33:19.215 --> 01:33:19.996 [UNKNOWN]: Bad mother fucker. 01:33:20.016 --> 01:33:20.757 [UNKNOWN]: He's where they were going. 01:33:20.797 --> 01:33:23.300 [UNKNOWN]: It was tight space in the guy in front of him. 01:33:23.320 --> 01:33:26.944 [UNKNOWN]: The Somali jumped out and jumped on the back of number one man. 01:33:27.044 --> 01:33:29.006 [UNKNOWN]: Heath was number two and pretty much took his head off. 01:33:29.147 --> 01:33:30.188 [UNKNOWN]: I love that so much. 01:33:30.208 --> 01:33:30.328 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:33:30.528 --> 01:33:34.311 [UNKNOWN]: I got a call down Robinson tonight at Heathdaad and tell him that's just so funny. 01:33:34.331 --> 01:33:35.552 [UNKNOWN]: And it was one of the first. 01:33:35.572 --> 01:33:36.352 [UNKNOWN]: Rob Reeves are two. 01:33:36.713 --> 01:33:36.913 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 01:33:37.053 --> 01:33:38.094 [UNKNOWN]: Rob Reeves is a bad motherfucker. 01:33:38.114 --> 01:33:39.835 [UNKNOWN]: Rob Reeves was the best seal I've ever met. 01:33:40.215 --> 01:33:40.455 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:33:40.515 --> 01:33:41.416 [UNKNOWN]: That was a pleasure. 01:33:41.436 --> 01:33:41.957 [UNKNOWN]: Not by far. 01:33:42.177 --> 01:33:42.617 [UNKNOWN]: But he was. 01:33:42.957 --> 01:33:48.601 [UNKNOWN]: I was on the deployment with them on the same time because I was in Somalia for that whole thing. 01:33:48.641 --> 01:33:52.244 [UNKNOWN]: And that's what, you know, because we were helping on that end and then they were, yeah. 01:33:52.644 --> 01:33:53.965 [UNKNOWN]: That was the quest. 01:33:53.985 --> 01:33:54.366 [UNKNOWN]: The quest. 01:33:54.406 --> 01:33:54.626 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 01:33:54.686 --> 01:33:58.289 [UNKNOWN]: There are a part of a flattoy of Christians handing out Bibles on the other side. 01:33:58.309 --> 01:33:58.389 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 01:33:58.429 --> 01:33:58.629 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 01:34:02.021 --> 01:34:12.947 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I know that, uh, you know, I just know that, um, like, I just know Jonas Kilsaw, uh, Yeah, John really took that, took that heavy. 01:34:13.147 --> 01:34:17.309 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because he, he was with you guys, right, Captain Phillips. 01:34:18.009 --> 01:34:23.352 [UNKNOWN]: He was, he was with black that was there also, right, and he went a lot of the talking and he was proud, Eddie. 01:34:23.992 --> 01:34:27.257 [UNKNOWN]: He helped talk that small on to the boat for you guys. 01:34:27.577 --> 01:34:38.232 [UNKNOWN]: The word I got because I wasn't one of the shooters on the thing was he was very happy that he was talking in the menu because he was all about a peaceful resolution, not knowing he's getting these guys closer to red team snipers and they're going to fucking kill him. 01:34:39.257 --> 01:34:44.723 [UNKNOWN]: like I was I was so confident I have a Jonas was credited for like really doing the job. 01:34:44.743 --> 01:34:45.964 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, he didn't talk in, right? 01:34:46.184 --> 01:34:52.210 [UNKNOWN]: Well, I think what happened to his Jonas was relieved by our exo at red and shortly thereafter, shots were fired. 01:34:52.430 --> 01:34:52.730 [UNKNOWN]: Got it. 01:34:53.271 --> 01:34:54.132 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say his name. 01:34:54.152 --> 01:34:54.912 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's out yet. 01:34:54.932 --> 01:34:58.156 [UNKNOWN]: I think he's I think he's working on a either one or his second. 01:34:58.216 --> 01:34:59.277 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm not gonna say his name. 01:35:00.398 --> 01:35:04.922 [UNKNOWN]: Now you fast forward and it's time to do the quest where it was the opposite result. 01:35:05.383 --> 01:35:09.327 [UNKNOWN]: Jonas was talking and then the Americans ended up dying. 01:35:10.168 --> 01:35:11.209 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, Jonas was talking to him. 01:35:11.289 --> 01:35:11.589 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 01:35:12.029 --> 01:35:12.870 [UNKNOWN]: He was kind of trying it. 01:35:12.910 --> 01:35:19.356 [UNKNOWN]: I think he was trying to do the same thing and because it ended the way it did, it was, well, I remember sitting talking to him. 01:35:19.416 --> 01:35:24.521 [UNKNOWN]: I think we were in fucking Yemen or somewhere and he was just, it was heavy on his heart that he was like, man, I had such success with 01:35:25.387 --> 01:35:32.414 [UNKNOWN]: You know, the captain Phillips aspect of it, and then to do the same, this was, this was, we're working close to extortion. 01:35:32.434 --> 01:35:36.879 [UNKNOWN]: So this wasn't, yeah, because in the very next run, that, yeah, extortion he went to. 01:35:36.899 --> 01:35:39.502 [UNKNOWN]: Because I remember because I went to Rodriguez House after the bin Laden raid. 01:35:39.522 --> 01:35:41.384 [UNKNOWN]: We were talking about both. 01:35:41.524 --> 01:35:46.389 [UNKNOWN]: And he actually said to me, one of these days, a lot of us are going to die on one of those helicopters. 01:35:46.469 --> 01:35:46.629 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow. 01:35:46.669 --> 01:35:47.470 [UNKNOWN]: It's a weird. 01:35:47.650 --> 01:35:48.151 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:35:48.874 --> 01:35:57.243 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just heard guys get busted down because all I went to Jayson and I went over a silver and I had talked to because the after extortion I went to silver and then just everything was shit after extortion. 01:35:58.845 --> 01:36:04.951 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think as you know, that was like a all hands extortion was all hands like that moment. 01:36:05.132 --> 01:36:05.913 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, now is. 01:36:08.101 --> 01:36:18.605 [UNKNOWN]: My part in that was going to Matt Mills house and telling Tamara Zoey and Bryce, the kids, you know, like, hey, you know, and full dress blues and initially they had some just regular navy dude going. 01:36:18.625 --> 01:36:19.606 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, no fucking way. 01:36:19.626 --> 01:36:20.206 [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely not. 01:36:20.226 --> 01:36:23.147 [UNKNOWN]: We've got to be familiar faces, and I knew that family was a team three. 01:36:26.113 --> 01:36:50.601 [UNKNOWN]: and uh... that was to a map and it's still f***ing badmills and they go animal and i would go uh... i'm getting goose bumps thinking about when i would go boxing no no i didn't know i didn't know i didn't know i didn't know i didn't know i didn't know i didn't know i've seen with the ready room at the bar uh... and when i walk in his big asses up their smile and cross i don't like tonight just got f***ing awesome he was just the light of every year that was a big story man every single f***ing dude on there it's like the best dude we ever have yeah 01:36:51.401 --> 01:36:56.765 [UNKNOWN]: It's like that's what God puts them there in one spot, the guys that can do anything. 01:36:56.785 --> 01:36:58.146 [UNKNOWN]: Rob Reeves like I said, I could do anything. 01:36:58.307 --> 01:36:59.808 [UNKNOWN]: Tom Ratt could do anything, Ratt could do anything. 01:36:59.828 --> 01:37:00.849 [UNKNOWN]: Ratt's left could do anything. 01:37:00.889 --> 01:37:02.130 [UNKNOWN]: I can Kevin Houston, Lou Langels. 01:37:02.310 --> 01:37:03.070 [UNKNOWN]: Just Lou Langels. 01:37:03.270 --> 01:37:03.851 [UNKNOWN]: Not an animal. 01:37:04.131 --> 01:37:04.511 [UNKNOWN]: The animal. 01:37:04.531 --> 01:37:10.176 [UNKNOWN]: Dude, Lou, I remember he was a red team guy and one of the first things when I went somewhere he was on, oh, shit, I was looking for someone. 01:37:10.196 --> 01:37:11.377 [UNKNOWN]: He just said, oh, you're always welcome here. 01:37:11.437 --> 01:37:12.478 [UNKNOWN]: Like meaning where I am. 01:37:13.058 --> 01:37:14.239 [UNKNOWN]: Dude, that's just fucking cool. 01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:14.699 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:37:15.220 --> 01:37:16.541 [UNKNOWN]: I knew I noticed he was one of those 01:37:18.242 --> 01:37:38.053 [UNKNOWN]: Drink smoke and party for the fucking sun comes up and still run up and down like all day long Yeah, he was our all over And even Canadian Oh, yeah, we can't find that Lou Lou through Do then see I guys figured out how to get to the ending or they had to talk to was it Activision that that owns that 01:37:38.213 --> 01:37:38.993 [UNKNOWN]: It sounds like it. 01:37:39.114 --> 01:37:42.636 [UNKNOWN]: I think they had to call them and say, look, he made it. 01:37:42.676 --> 01:37:53.322 [UNKNOWN]: The game had, once you got to a certain level, supposedly your red squatter patch, you like earn it digitally at the end of the game or something like that. 01:37:53.342 --> 01:37:53.942 [UNKNOWN]: That's crazy. 01:37:54.262 --> 01:37:58.585 [UNKNOWN]: So between the Tomahawk's, the patch, and I think the title, 01:37:59.490 --> 01:38:02.552 [UNKNOWN]: They had to pull all of it, and then they renamed it covert. 01:38:02.592 --> 01:38:05.494 [UNKNOWN]: They had to pull a bunch of shit out of the game, and then I think they called black ops. 01:38:05.974 --> 01:38:07.555 [UNKNOWN]: I think they switched it to black ops. 01:38:07.875 --> 01:38:15.140 [UNKNOWN]: So if you got a copy of one, the sales says, you'll see, I got a fry, if you haven't one out there, just tell me, I want that now. 01:38:15.160 --> 01:38:19.723 [UNKNOWN]: But I think they had to pull it, switch it, and turn it, I don't know, some drama, man. 01:38:19.943 --> 01:38:21.584 [UNKNOWN]: That's all I'm saying, team guys and drama. 01:38:21.624 --> 01:38:25.146 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it seems like, because I mean, I left it after that. 01:38:25.226 --> 01:38:26.126 [UNKNOWN]: I got out before 20. 01:38:27.147 --> 01:38:28.688 [UNKNOWN]: How was the transition to weird? 01:38:28.708 --> 01:38:32.171 [UNKNOWN]: How was the transition then for you to get your 20 ever really short? 01:38:32.291 --> 01:38:36.735 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's suck not having like a normal retirement with family and friends and all I was so bitter. 01:38:36.755 --> 01:38:40.918 [UNKNOWN]: I probably would have never written a book if it wasn't for that moment, honestly. 01:38:40.938 --> 01:38:41.179 [UNKNOWN]: Really? 01:38:41.379 --> 01:38:41.579 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:38:42.340 --> 01:38:44.441 [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't in the guy that was going to get out and write books or anything. 01:38:46.042 --> 01:38:54.965 [UNKNOWN]: What a friend of mine who had already published books was like, hey, you want to do a book together, and I was like, sure, fuck it, you know, because I just got in my ass handed to me for no reason, you know? 01:38:54.985 --> 01:38:56.325 [UNKNOWN]: For absolutely no reason at all. 01:38:56.445 --> 01:38:57.965 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, just like a party. 01:38:57.985 --> 01:39:07.208 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it all came together in the Triton Board when a certain master chief, you know, was like, so you bought Matt business house. 01:39:08.048 --> 01:39:11.029 [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, yeah, what does that got to do with anything? 01:39:11.962 --> 01:39:13.483 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, well, how long have you known him? 01:39:13.543 --> 01:39:14.863 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I don't really know him that well. 01:39:14.903 --> 01:39:16.564 [UNKNOWN]: I said, I fucking hung out with maybe twice. 01:39:16.624 --> 01:39:29.511 [UNKNOWN]: And one was at element five or whatever name his business was and maybe another time at the command for, you know, but the wives, his wife at the time and my wife did the deal and they're, yeah, we're, I was working, Matt's working. 01:39:29.651 --> 01:39:35.954 [UNKNOWN]: I don't fucking know the guy and they're just like total silence, like, you know, leveraging silence to see if I had more to say about that. 01:39:35.974 --> 01:39:36.634 [UNKNOWN]: And I just didn't. 01:39:37.574 --> 01:39:38.055 [UNKNOWN]: And, um, 01:39:38.830 --> 01:39:51.743 [UNKNOWN]: You know, the whole thing really was about math and it, you know, it was all blurry at the time, but they just were taking it out on anybody that had, I think, ties to him or they thought that had ties or that had extracurricular shit going on. 01:39:51.763 --> 01:39:51.964 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:39:52.925 --> 01:39:57.990 [UNKNOWN]: And, um, yeah, I don't know if he knows how much of a, like, big fucking, 01:39:59.089 --> 01:40:18.535 [UNKNOWN]: tsunami that was created inside the fence line gives a fuck is that fucking book but whatever you know life goes on and it does it certainly does doesn't yeah I mean so I ended up you know no retirement no nothing just fucking left and um but once I got out wait you didn't retire every time 01:40:19.835 --> 01:40:22.756 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay, but I mean, that's what I mean, it's just there was no return. 01:40:22.776 --> 01:40:26.997 [UNKNOWN]: I'll fair enough in at the coming year like you know like the shit that you kind of want Did you should have it? 01:40:27.037 --> 01:40:28.937 [UNKNOWN]: That's when you get the coolest fucking paddle. 01:40:28.957 --> 01:40:34.178 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, and you too you get the coolest fucking plaques Yeah, oh, I got there for a playing owner. 01:40:34.218 --> 01:40:34.878 [UNKNOWN]: I know that's playing it. 01:40:34.898 --> 01:40:35.919 [UNKNOWN]: I just left him with the silver. 01:40:35.939 --> 01:40:39.719 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't get shit So like fuck team guys are in charge. 01:40:39.759 --> 01:40:40.560 [UNKNOWN]: Why would you get a shit? 01:40:41.480 --> 01:40:41.640 [UNKNOWN]: But 01:40:42.900 --> 01:40:50.065 [UNKNOWN]: I had my company escape the wolf, which, you know, my first client was the Wall Street Journal, so I couldn't complain about that. 01:40:50.245 --> 01:41:06.117 [UNKNOWN]: It's also educating all their journalists on, you know, travel safety and stuff abroad, and then that led to Humana, where I did workforce education for all the 65,000 employees, then I helped build them their in-home health care, where they had nurses, occupational therapists, 01:41:09.539 --> 01:41:13.340 [UNKNOWN]: So, gave them skill sets so they could survive dangerous situations. 01:41:13.700 --> 01:41:15.781 [UNKNOWN]: That was about 10,000 of them. 01:41:15.801 --> 01:41:25.564 [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, over the, since I've been out, I've literally educated probably hundreds of thousands of employees in this country on how to just deal with different situations. 01:41:25.844 --> 01:41:33.027 [UNKNOWN]: Mostly under the realm of workplace violence, domestic violence, um, you know, specifically to like active shooter and stuff like that. 01:41:33.167 --> 01:41:33.547 [UNKNOWN]: But, mm-hmm. 01:41:34.047 --> 01:41:36.869 [UNKNOWN]: And then at the same time, had a hundred daily skills, which that's what I love. 01:41:36.889 --> 01:41:39.011 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I want to look at that. 01:41:39.031 --> 01:41:39.792 [UNKNOWN]: That's the third one. 01:41:40.152 --> 01:41:41.333 [UNKNOWN]: No shit, it's the most fun. 01:41:41.774 --> 01:41:43.815 [UNKNOWN]: Look at that showing it to every camera we got. 01:41:44.416 --> 01:41:45.697 [UNKNOWN]: Now, this is a badass book. 01:41:46.778 --> 01:41:55.945 [UNKNOWN]: I got a hundred, actually, I think before I even worked at Fox, you were there and you had a, you put it in a river or one of your guys had a copy sent it to the Greenland for me. 01:41:56.406 --> 01:41:58.407 [UNKNOWN]: I was just there and they said, hey, Clinton, I'm so sure. 01:41:58.707 --> 01:41:59.988 [UNKNOWN]: So I have a copy you signed. 01:42:00.028 --> 01:42:00.609 [UNKNOWN]: This is awesome. 01:42:00.629 --> 01:42:02.070 [UNKNOWN]: By the way, this is so cool. 01:42:02.090 --> 01:42:02.410 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 01:42:03.111 --> 01:42:28.157 [UNKNOWN]: fucking rice but the third book has a bunch of our buddies in it because I went around the country oh really filming their top five fighting moves in the vertical therein so if it's a sci-ok guy he gives his sci-ok stuff really it's uh i've got you know zoltan for five finger death punch because no shit huh you guys he's really good you just yeah yeah yeah and he's kind of dated into the Gracie world his uh his girlfriend's zoltan's fucking badass yeah 01:42:30.438 --> 01:42:30.598 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:42:30.658 --> 01:42:31.099 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 01:42:31.139 --> 01:42:31.799 [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't going to go. 01:42:31.839 --> 01:42:32.019 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:42:32.080 --> 01:42:32.240 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:42:32.620 --> 01:42:34.262 [UNKNOWN]: Um, that was a couple other guys in there. 01:42:34.282 --> 01:42:36.704 [UNKNOWN]: You know that teach specific skills. 01:42:36.724 --> 01:42:37.104 [UNKNOWN]: That's good. 01:42:37.204 --> 01:42:38.245 [UNKNOWN]: I was ahead of this whole. 01:42:38.626 --> 01:42:40.487 [UNKNOWN]: I put QR codes in there for each skill. 01:42:40.607 --> 01:42:46.333 [UNKNOWN]: If you put your phone on it, you get a badass high-end video on how to do that skill. 01:42:46.393 --> 01:42:47.073 [UNKNOWN]: Where are they? 01:42:47.133 --> 01:42:48.735 [UNKNOWN]: Where can people find their nose on? 01:42:49.075 --> 01:42:49.315 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:42:49.756 --> 01:42:53.719 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to get this on the website because you're going to come along with operators collective now. 01:42:54.120 --> 01:42:54.300 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:42:54.660 --> 01:42:55.180 [UNKNOWN]: That'll be fun. 01:42:55.220 --> 01:42:55.841 [UNKNOWN]: That's going to be good. 01:42:55.861 --> 01:42:57.742 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to do an event coming up here in November. 01:42:57.762 --> 01:42:58.663 [UNKNOWN]: You're going to be out there for that. 01:42:59.043 --> 01:42:59.643 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think so. 01:42:59.724 --> 01:43:00.604 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, do it. 01:43:01.024 --> 01:43:01.925 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to put a think up. 01:43:01.965 --> 01:43:02.105 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:43:02.125 --> 01:43:04.647 [UNKNOWN]: Well, you're going to be divided everything. 01:43:05.648 --> 01:43:09.610 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're going to be doing sniper shit shot out to a thousand yards or a mile. 01:43:10.011 --> 01:43:12.292 [UNKNOWN]: So 1600 CQB stuff. 01:43:12.672 --> 01:43:13.093 [UNKNOWN]: Fighting. 01:43:13.153 --> 01:43:14.033 [UNKNOWN]: Scott, don't scum it out. 01:43:14.233 --> 01:43:14.434 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:43:14.774 --> 01:43:15.574 [UNKNOWN]: He's been blessed. 01:43:15.594 --> 01:43:16.055 [UNKNOWN]: He's been good. 01:43:16.395 --> 01:43:19.017 [UNKNOWN]: Scott, Scott, and I were came in through. 01:43:19.057 --> 01:43:22.179 [UNKNOWN]: He actually gave you credit for introducing him to Jiu Jitsu. 01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:28.381 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he wanted if I was he was all he like the moment he right side. 01:43:28.401 --> 01:43:29.001 [UNKNOWN]: He loved it. 01:43:29.121 --> 01:43:31.021 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, he's a fourth three black belt now. 01:43:31.041 --> 01:43:32.081 [UNKNOWN]: He's just taking it all the way. 01:43:32.582 --> 01:43:33.582 [UNKNOWN]: We were at court. 01:43:33.602 --> 01:43:34.242 [UNKNOWN]: We were at court. 01:43:34.482 --> 01:43:37.022 [UNKNOWN]: Cormon school together and that's where that's what he said. 01:43:37.182 --> 01:43:37.642 [UNKNOWN]: That's what he said. 01:43:37.662 --> 01:43:38.883 [UNKNOWN]: I was at JKD guy. 01:43:38.903 --> 01:43:39.403 [UNKNOWN]: He went to learn. 01:43:39.423 --> 01:43:41.863 [UNKNOWN]: It was basically just, you know, jab soup. 01:43:41.883 --> 01:43:42.463 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 01:43:42.483 --> 01:43:46.224 [UNKNOWN]: Because seal teams were doing like scars on the scientific degree out of normal response. 01:43:46.464 --> 01:43:46.704 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:43:46.804 --> 01:43:48.184 [UNKNOWN]: But then like UFC came in. 01:43:48.204 --> 01:43:49.965 [UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, we did just so we found your face. 01:43:50.205 --> 01:43:51.425 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I've been learning that then. 01:43:51.465 --> 01:43:51.625 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:43:52.305 --> 01:43:53.246 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he went all the way with it. 01:43:53.446 --> 01:43:54.087 [UNKNOWN]: He did a good job. 01:43:54.107 --> 01:43:57.250 [UNKNOWN]: Well, because he, Scott thought out right around, because it was like you're saying the outcome. 01:43:57.291 --> 01:43:58.091 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he said, right? 01:43:58.111 --> 01:44:01.055 [UNKNOWN]: He got hurt, but he was still in, and then he got out right around 2000. 01:44:01.135 --> 01:44:03.918 [UNKNOWN]: And right around 2000, 2001. 01:44:04.278 --> 01:44:07.562 [UNKNOWN]: So as you're starting the out process, then 9-11, you're not letting you back in. 01:44:07.622 --> 01:44:07.842 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:44:08.122 --> 01:44:08.823 [UNKNOWN]: So it's got it. 01:44:09.023 --> 01:44:09.624 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that sucks. 01:44:09.804 --> 01:44:11.805 [UNKNOWN]: And that's, but that'll be fun out there in Vegas. 01:44:11.865 --> 01:44:13.025 [UNKNOWN]: We'll be doing some more stuff coming up. 01:44:13.045 --> 01:44:14.886 [UNKNOWN]: What, what, what, where else should people find you? 01:44:16.106 --> 01:44:18.487 [UNKNOWN]: Um, well, my socials are back up and running. 01:44:18.527 --> 01:44:19.807 [UNKNOWN]: I took like a six month break, right? 01:44:19.827 --> 01:44:20.267 [UNKNOWN]: That was smart. 01:44:20.407 --> 01:44:22.328 [UNKNOWN]: How was the feel that someone else is managing them? 01:44:22.548 --> 01:44:22.788 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:44:22.828 --> 01:44:22.948 [UNKNOWN]: Good. 01:44:22.968 --> 01:44:23.488 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, good. 01:44:24.069 --> 01:44:24.429 [UNKNOWN]: I begin. 01:44:24.549 --> 01:44:24.789 [UNKNOWN]: I begin. 01:44:24.809 --> 01:44:25.369 [UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about that. 01:44:25.609 --> 01:44:26.109 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, quickly. 01:44:26.309 --> 01:44:26.509 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:44:26.609 --> 01:44:27.030 [UNKNOWN]: Not quickly. 01:44:27.350 --> 01:44:28.210 [UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about I begin. 01:44:28.710 --> 01:44:29.130 [UNKNOWN]: Let's see. 01:44:29.230 --> 01:44:35.272 [UNKNOWN]: So Sarah Monoly, Sarah Monoly, I thought it was pretty interesting, as you know, right? 01:44:37.893 --> 01:44:40.936 [UNKNOWN]: If, are you burning, you know, I think, so here's what I would say. 01:44:41.176 --> 01:44:43.178 [UNKNOWN]: This is my suggestion for people interested. 01:44:43.418 --> 01:44:44.840 [UNKNOWN]: Number one, it's not a magic pill. 01:44:46.021 --> 01:44:50.565 [UNKNOWN]: But number two, I would say go do the therapy first, so you understand your why. 01:44:50.585 --> 01:44:50.966 [UNKNOWN]: There you go. 01:44:51.406 --> 01:44:56.731 [UNKNOWN]: Because for me, my why was abandonment, trust issues, control issues. 01:44:56.771 --> 01:44:57.672 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can name it. 01:44:58.213 --> 01:45:00.735 [UNKNOWN]: And they probably still affect me today, right? 01:45:00.815 --> 01:45:01.095 [UNKNOWN]: But, 01:45:01.776 --> 01:45:11.844 [UNKNOWN]: therapy will identify it because if you don't know why you're kind of having issues, whatever it is, well then you really can't get your intention squared away when you go do that. 01:45:11.864 --> 01:45:12.665 [UNKNOWN]: That's very good point. 01:45:12.685 --> 01:45:12.845 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:45:13.025 --> 01:45:14.607 [UNKNOWN]: And intentions is everything, right? 01:45:14.627 --> 01:45:19.230 [UNKNOWN]: As you know, you write your intentions down out with the old and with the news, probably the best way to sum it up. 01:45:19.651 --> 01:45:20.812 [UNKNOWN]: You're part of it precisely. 01:45:21.332 --> 01:45:29.599 [UNKNOWN]: And then when you go under the mask, you're constantly reminding yourself of those intentions, those intentions because I really want this shit to fucking 01:45:31.320 --> 01:45:38.602 [UNKNOWN]: And so I was, you know, abandonment, trust, control, run it through my head through the whole under the mask experience. 01:45:38.882 --> 01:45:40.422 [UNKNOWN]: You know, as you know, it's roughly 14 hours. 01:45:40.462 --> 01:45:42.523 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to strip literally. 01:45:42.843 --> 01:45:44.684 [UNKNOWN]: And then I slept for 36 hours. 01:45:44.924 --> 01:45:46.084 [UNKNOWN]: Did you afterwards, really? 01:45:46.124 --> 01:45:46.544 [UNKNOWN]: I'm asleep. 01:45:46.564 --> 01:45:47.384 [UNKNOWN]: I've ever had my life. 01:45:47.424 --> 01:45:48.765 [UNKNOWN]: Right after, you'd not not. 01:45:48.985 --> 01:45:49.285 [UNKNOWN]: Wow. 01:45:49.505 --> 01:45:49.965 [UNKNOWN]: Right after. 01:45:50.305 --> 01:45:52.526 [UNKNOWN]: Holy shit, slept all the way until it was time to do. 01:45:52.546 --> 01:45:53.046 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, DMT. 01:45:53.066 --> 01:45:54.226 [UNKNOWN]: I've been me. 01:45:54.326 --> 01:45:54.986 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 01:45:55.906 --> 01:45:57.287 [UNKNOWN]: And now what would you? 01:45:57.907 --> 01:45:59.128 [UNKNOWN]: Do you want to get in the eye beginning at all? 01:45:59.568 --> 01:46:03.312 [UNKNOWN]: So eye beginning for me, what was unadventful? 01:46:03.852 --> 01:46:05.954 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it was a lot of the void. 01:46:06.555 --> 01:46:13.901 [UNKNOWN]: You're in space, which I think some people have actually described as their version of hell. 01:46:14.542 --> 01:46:15.082 [UNKNOWN]: I've heard that. 01:46:15.162 --> 01:46:18.145 [UNKNOWN]: And so I was in that for majority of it. 01:46:19.692 --> 01:46:23.393 [UNKNOWN]: Um, the way it started though is keeping your eyes open under the mask. 01:46:23.493 --> 01:46:30.255 [UNKNOWN]: Imagine looking into a cereal box in the cereal box has like black felt lined walls. 01:46:31.595 --> 01:46:37.877 [UNKNOWN]: And now of a sudden, from the rear, going down the side walls is every color you can think of. 01:46:38.637 --> 01:46:47.399 [UNKNOWN]: Then the the furthest wall, which is almost as like a projector screen down there, lights up and now my head starts moving towards it. 01:46:48.220 --> 01:46:52.701 [UNKNOWN]: And then my face kind of smashes into that screen. 01:46:53.301 --> 01:46:58.283 [UNKNOWN]: And now you go into warp speed, stars flying by at warp speed. 01:46:58.543 --> 01:47:00.183 [UNKNOWN]: And then that's right when I threw up. 01:47:00.503 --> 01:47:01.243 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:47:01.644 --> 01:47:03.684 [UNKNOWN]: And so you throw up, come back. 01:47:04.064 --> 01:47:06.085 [UNKNOWN]: And I got all of my, 01:47:07.245 --> 01:47:08.926 [UNKNOWN]: purging done before midnight. 01:47:08.966 --> 01:47:10.127 [UNKNOWN]: I was the first one. 01:47:11.128 --> 01:47:14.530 [UNKNOWN]: And then then the rest of the night was just the ride. 01:47:14.570 --> 01:47:19.833 [UNKNOWN]: And it was everything from different very all mine were very crowded African village. 01:47:19.874 --> 01:47:25.237 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, maybe because, you know, we know this root comes from Africa. 01:47:25.317 --> 01:47:25.777 [UNKNOWN]: The bone. 01:47:26.098 --> 01:47:26.818 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:47:27.258 --> 01:47:30.300 [UNKNOWN]: And then a lot of I saw images of my mom and dad. 01:47:30.521 --> 01:47:32.102 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we've been dead for a little while. 01:47:32.122 --> 01:47:32.942 [UNKNOWN]: Did that. 01:47:32.962 --> 01:47:33.963 [UNKNOWN]: Did you communicate with it? 01:47:34.596 --> 01:47:36.017 [UNKNOWN]: No communication with them. 01:47:36.318 --> 01:47:39.721 [UNKNOWN]: Probably the biggest standout was when I said, show me God. 01:47:39.741 --> 01:47:41.162 [UNKNOWN]: And so show me God. 01:47:44.647 --> 01:47:54.998 [UNKNOWN]: was like a film reel came down and in cursive white writing on the first piece of film, like projection film, right, like old movie. 01:47:55.018 --> 01:47:55.759 [UNKNOWN]: You can see it. 01:47:55.919 --> 01:47:56.099 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:47:56.960 --> 01:47:58.501 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, it said, show me God. 01:47:58.702 --> 01:47:59.603 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, okay. 01:48:00.003 --> 01:48:04.367 [UNKNOWN]: And then as it reel down, now all of a sudden this black medallion, 01:48:05.471 --> 01:48:17.394 [UNKNOWN]: Look like it could have been stone, carved, circular, it had carvings in it, but when you're under eye-begining or under the mask, if you've tried to focus, you'll lose it. 01:48:17.454 --> 01:48:23.235 [UNKNOWN]: So you're using your peripherals really to see what you're looking at, and then it was backlit by fire. 01:48:24.336 --> 01:48:30.537 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not a church person, I don't know anything about that stuff, but I'll tell you since then to do the research. 01:48:31.217 --> 01:48:33.338 [UNKNOWN]: The black stone is the center of the earth, usually the map. 01:48:34.432 --> 01:49:00.877 [UNKNOWN]: the magnet maybe and hell maybe yeah that's what my so yeah the things that I was able to extract fire has always been representation of God and burning bush burning bush and that was Moses and it was a stone as part of that story yeah and cleanse by fire and judgment to fires the cleanser yeah and so who knows right that's the 01:49:02.961 --> 01:49:05.582 [UNKNOWN]: But what I saw was different than anybody else's. 01:49:05.622 --> 01:49:06.662 [UNKNOWN]: No, she was like, I saw God. 01:49:06.702 --> 01:49:07.262 [UNKNOWN]: I see Jesus. 01:49:07.362 --> 01:49:09.283 [UNKNOWN]: But for me, it was fire. 01:49:09.363 --> 01:49:10.343 [UNKNOWN]: It was that stone. 01:49:10.383 --> 01:49:15.604 [UNKNOWN]: The stone had some kind of engraving on it, but I could not read it. 01:49:15.925 --> 01:49:16.745 [UNKNOWN]: No, what it was. 01:49:17.205 --> 01:49:20.186 [UNKNOWN]: And then, yeah, that was part of the highlight reel for them. 01:49:20.746 --> 01:49:23.987 [UNKNOWN]: I'm again, it's kind of like that, but then the five of you know, can you explain that? 01:49:24.047 --> 01:49:24.647 [UNKNOWN]: How that worked out? 01:49:24.767 --> 01:49:26.067 [UNKNOWN]: For me, five M.O. 01:49:26.087 --> 01:49:26.507 [UNKNOWN]: is dark. 01:49:27.107 --> 01:49:27.368 [UNKNOWN]: What? 01:49:27.568 --> 01:49:28.848 [UNKNOWN]: So like Sean and I. 01:49:29.088 --> 01:49:29.848 [UNKNOWN]: No shit. 01:49:29.868 --> 01:49:30.908 [UNKNOWN]: We had the same experience. 01:49:31.268 --> 01:49:32.809 [UNKNOWN]: Like it was not good for me. 01:49:33.089 --> 01:49:33.609 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, what happened? 01:49:33.629 --> 01:49:34.509 [UNKNOWN]: I took the first hit. 01:49:35.129 --> 01:49:35.429 [UNKNOWN]: Nothing. 01:49:36.049 --> 01:49:36.929 [UNKNOWN]: Didn't do anything to me. 01:49:37.149 --> 01:49:42.110 [UNKNOWN]: And then my, was they call him your house, your house monitor, or the, you know, the person. 01:49:42.130 --> 01:49:42.531 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:49:42.571 --> 01:49:42.871 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:49:43.271 --> 01:49:46.111 [UNKNOWN]: And he was, he was like, oh, no, you're not one of those. 01:49:46.191 --> 01:49:47.432 [UNKNOWN]: It's like a moon to this shit. 01:49:47.492 --> 01:49:48.692 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, take another hit. 01:49:49.072 --> 01:49:50.472 [UNKNOWN]: Oh boy, take it to the hero. 01:49:50.492 --> 01:49:51.172 [UNKNOWN]: Hero does. 01:49:51.332 --> 01:49:52.933 [UNKNOWN]: We did, the first one was hero. 01:49:53.013 --> 01:49:54.393 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, so I did the second one. 01:49:56.598 --> 01:50:03.876 [UNKNOWN]: I mean frog man hit and I've got larger than normal lungs and I filled them up and then did the whole like fall back and 01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:09.342 [UNKNOWN]: And it was just a feeling that came over my body. 01:50:10.543 --> 01:50:17.789 [UNKNOWN]: But I could, you know, the mask on, I could see where the sun lights trying to penetrate, because you're outside to do this. 01:50:19.750 --> 01:50:23.353 [UNKNOWN]: And it almost, it felt like forever. 01:50:23.373 --> 01:50:34.262 [UNKNOWN]: I was just like waiting for it to kick in, waiting, waiting, and then all of a sudden, man, I could not, I started crying and could not stop 01:50:37.087 --> 01:50:43.909 [UNKNOWN]: And I rolled over and got on my knees and I was still in it, I guess, and I had moved to my back, moved to my sides. 01:50:43.929 --> 01:50:48.531 [UNKNOWN]: They said I was reaching out and trying to hold, you know, people's hands. 01:50:49.511 --> 01:50:51.732 [UNKNOWN]: But it was just constant and then. 01:50:53.363 --> 01:50:54.544 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it was not good. 01:50:54.824 --> 01:50:56.425 [UNKNOWN]: Most people say they had this great experience. 01:50:56.465 --> 01:51:01.008 [UNKNOWN]: It was a fucking horrible, and then what I mean was you could see there's a void. 01:51:01.028 --> 01:51:02.428 [UNKNOWN]: It was nothing. 01:51:03.389 --> 01:51:07.031 [UNKNOWN]: There was no video that it was unlocked. 01:51:08.132 --> 01:51:14.916 [UNKNOWN]: It unlocked grief, shame, every fucking sad, every every negative emotion you can think of like agony. 01:51:15.596 --> 01:51:18.799 [UNKNOWN]: it let it all out and all it wants. 01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:21.701 [UNKNOWN]: There was, it was, I was a fucking mess. 01:51:21.781 --> 01:51:27.005 [UNKNOWN]: And I, and I remember when it was going on, like it was a part of me that was trying to think, oh, maybe this is all happiness or something. 01:51:27.665 --> 01:51:32.189 [UNKNOWN]: You know, you know, because you hear people saying it's the most happy thing and I'm sitting there going, this is not happy. 01:51:32.209 --> 01:51:33.150 [UNKNOWN]: This is fucking horrible. 01:51:33.550 --> 01:51:33.850 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:51:34.291 --> 01:51:40.135 [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, post at post I've again, I'm at like plus 90 right now, probably 100 days, or whatever. 01:51:43.020 --> 01:51:45.523 [UNKNOWN]: You know, the whole time it's been negative feelings. 01:51:45.804 --> 01:51:48.367 [UNKNOWN]: I haven't had, I was, it did, it did not let up. 01:51:48.467 --> 01:51:49.469 [UNKNOWN]: It's, sense that out of the whole time. 01:51:49.489 --> 01:51:51.211 [UNKNOWN]: The whole time, the whole time, the whole time, the whole time. 01:51:51.231 --> 01:51:54.055 [UNKNOWN]: For the five of me, the whole time I've been home, it's been negative feelings. 01:51:55.056 --> 01:51:55.277 [UNKNOWN]: Like. 01:51:56.752 --> 01:52:03.037 [UNKNOWN]: enough to, like, if fucks with me right now, like, I could, I could literally start see when I start talking, it builds me up. 01:52:03.197 --> 01:52:03.837 [UNKNOWN]: This is bad. 01:52:04.218 --> 01:52:05.118 [UNKNOWN]: What do things mean down? 01:52:05.259 --> 01:52:08.161 [UNKNOWN]: What did the, do you have you talk to the counselors down there since? 01:52:08.181 --> 01:52:08.641 [UNKNOWN]: What do they say? 01:52:08.661 --> 01:52:16.247 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you know how, like, what I noticed with that whole system, and it's not to dog it, but when you get on with the counselors afterwards, you're collecting data. 01:52:16.367 --> 01:52:17.368 [UNKNOWN]: They're not counting you. 01:52:17.908 --> 01:52:19.549 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, I can, I don't, I don't usually talk to them again. 01:52:20.290 --> 01:52:20.470 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:52:21.091 --> 01:52:23.653 [UNKNOWN]: But I have a therapist and we've been talking about, but it, 01:52:25.082 --> 01:52:37.672 [UNKNOWN]: it's been nothing but negative shit the whole fucking time do you and so that's where Sean and I what did Sean see I didn't I know Sean said he I watched most of that interview actually he did with uh uh I think with Tucker and he said he saw hell 01:52:38.886 --> 01:52:53.483 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't I didn't well, but I mean hell we saw what what what what's funny is after that interview He saw the same thing is me, but when people said well, what did you see nothing nothing and that was the same for me This is the voice well, that's what hell's the voidness. 01:52:53.503 --> 01:52:55.565 [UNKNOWN]: So you're away from God fucking. 01:52:55.585 --> 01:52:59.469 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, because like I think too I don't want to get all religious or whatever, but 01:53:00.303 --> 01:53:04.789 [UNKNOWN]: when people talk about Satan, the Lucifer, it's not like he's running hell, he's a prisoner in hell. 01:53:05.210 --> 01:53:12.159 [UNKNOWN]: Hell is a wrath of God, you're being punished by God, and that would be void. 01:53:12.179 --> 01:53:16.384 [UNKNOWN]: They say fire and they say weeping and gnashing of teeth, which would happen and avoid. 01:53:17.205 --> 01:53:30.829 [UNKNOWN]: But, I mean, that's some scary shit, because what I wanted to, I thought I was at the waiting room to go to judgment, seen like, oh, like it was good, scariest fuck, like, when the, you know, but you grew a Catholic, yeah, I don't want to fucking think, I don't want to get the falses. 01:53:30.909 --> 01:53:34.910 [UNKNOWN]: Or I didn't learn if you, but if you've been, Jesus found me about a year and a half ago. 01:53:35.210 --> 01:53:40.271 [UNKNOWN]: That's right, I would say Jesus found me, but I didn't find Jesus, but I, um, was that before after I began. 01:53:40.772 --> 01:53:41.892 [UNKNOWN]: Aft, well, both. 01:53:42.932 --> 01:53:45.714 [UNKNOWN]: Um, well, I mean, your first time Jesus. 01:53:45.774 --> 01:53:46.634 [UNKNOWN]: No Jesus. 01:53:46.654 --> 01:53:48.335 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, but the third time was the biggest one. 01:53:48.715 --> 01:53:50.136 [UNKNOWN]: The third time was devout. 01:53:50.256 --> 01:53:57.700 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, but that was I mean that wasn't during the I mean it was after but like it was the judgment thing for me was almost a it was so 01:54:14.458 --> 01:54:25.150 [UNKNOWN]: when I was when I got into nothingness it was it was a welcome back and the mood wasn't laughter because that would cause embarrassment that that would not be something heavenly. 01:54:25.710 --> 01:54:30.775 [UNKNOWN]: So it was a shift in the energy of the welcome back and it almost like you're going into almost a judgment because 01:54:31.927 --> 01:54:37.549 [UNKNOWN]: I, you know, I'm trying to, this, I sound like a lunatic right now anyway, but like you see in the Bible when the first thing in Angel says be not afraid. 01:54:38.270 --> 01:54:39.610 [UNKNOWN]: But that's translated in English. 01:54:39.630 --> 01:54:41.091 [UNKNOWN]: It's essentially stop fucking screaming. 01:54:41.271 --> 01:54:42.131 [UNKNOWN]: I'm a, I'm a good guy. 01:54:42.772 --> 01:54:47.814 [UNKNOWN]: But that's more of what my experience is, and then you get a beautiful feeling, and then you come out and you're like, wow, I just saw God, and here's some more to know. 01:54:47.994 --> 01:54:48.494 [UNKNOWN]: Good for you. 01:54:48.514 --> 01:54:50.915 [UNKNOWN]: Well, fuck, and that's, I'm, I, I'm going back in December. 01:54:51.235 --> 01:54:51.635 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, really. 01:54:51.815 --> 01:54:52.756 [UNKNOWN]: Try how many times is that for you? 01:54:52.796 --> 01:54:53.376 [UNKNOWN]: It'll be four. 01:54:53.436 --> 01:54:56.777 [UNKNOWN]: Then for five of you, well, DMT will be 15, 16. 01:54:56.937 --> 01:54:59.378 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I kind of, I'm, I don't think I'm going. 01:54:59.478 --> 01:55:00.138 [UNKNOWN]: I think I'm good. 01:55:00.558 --> 01:55:02.519 [UNKNOWN]: You might be the, I mean, I don't know. 01:55:02.539 --> 01:55:04.099 [UNKNOWN]: But I don't like the negativity, though. 01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:04.620 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:55:04.740 --> 01:55:12.302 [UNKNOWN]: Because normally, right after it's the positivity, and then that wears into negativity, around the 90s, the interesting part of this is yet that all these feelings. 01:55:13.683 --> 01:55:14.063 [UNKNOWN]: And then, 01:55:15.682 --> 01:55:23.294 [UNKNOWN]: the decisions that I have made on this post 90, I question now, you know, because it's like, was that 01:55:25.450 --> 01:55:31.552 [UNKNOWN]: the place I've been put in now is leading to certain decisions, or if what if what if I was put in your place? 01:55:31.772 --> 01:55:36.553 [UNKNOWN]: And it's time to make decisions would I have been, I don't know, different, you know. 01:55:36.693 --> 01:55:39.554 [UNKNOWN]: But my second one was different. 01:55:39.574 --> 01:55:40.154 [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't good. 01:55:40.554 --> 01:55:42.555 [UNKNOWN]: First and the third were good. 01:55:43.335 --> 01:55:48.937 [UNKNOWN]: For the full experience from sweat lodge to five of you know, was the second first and third were good. 01:55:49.277 --> 01:55:49.937 [UNKNOWN]: Got it. 01:55:50.017 --> 01:55:51.457 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to fourth to it's crazy. 01:55:51.477 --> 01:55:53.438 [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, the thing about it too, like I'm going with a friend of mine, 01:55:55.817 --> 01:56:22.918 [UNKNOWN]: I'm concerned because I heard people get religious and I said well you don't get religious you find Jesus and it's not that you find Jesus it's more of a oh there you oh you've been here the whole time yeah and he seems pretty cool I don't want to get all religious on you but that it was void is there what do you thought so I mean well as it relates to Jesus no the positivity negativity I feel like the negativity is kind of weird enough but it's still there how's the anger? 01:56:23.733 --> 01:56:26.035 [UNKNOWN]: There was no, I don't know if there was anger blended into it. 01:56:27.416 --> 01:56:27.616 [UNKNOWN]: Good. 01:56:27.656 --> 01:56:28.156 [UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah. 01:56:28.517 --> 01:56:29.037 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think so. 01:56:29.197 --> 01:56:30.018 [UNKNOWN]: I get angry. 01:56:30.038 --> 01:56:35.181 [UNKNOWN]: That's the reason I went back this time is to work on my pinpointing anger out of nowhere. 01:56:35.342 --> 01:56:36.462 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:56:36.562 --> 01:56:40.205 [UNKNOWN]: Like if someone innocent text me at the wrong time, then I just like lashing. 01:56:41.046 --> 01:56:41.366 [UNKNOWN]: Got it. 01:56:41.786 --> 01:56:46.630 [UNKNOWN]: So, but now with that moving forward, what what what what what what what what Avenue's unit. 01:56:47.921 --> 01:56:55.967 [UNKNOWN]: Well, maintain therapy, and then of course, turning more to the Bible and really digging in on that, which I've been doing. 01:56:56.047 --> 01:56:59.830 [UNKNOWN]: I think I told you I'll share a story of an angel, but it's the only thing I can call her. 01:57:00.871 --> 01:57:13.882 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sitting in a sauna, a cold plunge place, and I'm in the sauna, and there's a, you know, a woman from Africa is already sitting in there. 01:57:15.124 --> 01:57:35.682 [UNKNOWN]: and uh... we we exchange maybe two or three cents like hey what's up has been going i noticed she had a accident where you're from she said Nigeria is like all right cool and then it's a song so you just kind of going around world she's reading a book and uh... i go i i had a call so i finished that's my get out of the sun i go outside i'm sitting down i do a call 01:57:36.825 --> 01:57:40.511 [UNKNOWN]: And as she comes out, she's like, hey, can I tell you something? 01:57:40.651 --> 01:57:47.402 [UNKNOWN]: And I'd just finish my meeting and like, yeah, and her Nigerian accent, she's like, 01:57:48.755 --> 01:57:50.477 [UNKNOWN]: I got to tell you something while I was in there. 01:57:50.497 --> 01:57:57.485 [UNKNOWN]: I got a message from Jesus and I was like, okay, and she's like, yeah, Jesus wants to meet you soon. 01:57:58.006 --> 01:57:59.467 [UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking, is that mean I'm gonna die? 01:58:00.849 --> 01:58:05.214 [UNKNOWN]: And then she's like, and your voice, your voice, 01:58:07.402 --> 01:58:12.126 [UNKNOWN]: the sound of your voice, you are going to be a battleaxe for God. 01:58:12.186 --> 01:58:14.328 [UNKNOWN]: Well, and I was like, what does that mean? 01:58:14.828 --> 01:58:15.068 [UNKNOWN]: Right? 01:58:15.649 --> 01:58:24.176 [UNKNOWN]: And then she ended up with like, and you, you will meet a lady, a lady that will come from the flesh of God, and she will grow old with you. 01:58:25.777 --> 01:58:28.600 [UNKNOWN]: And I was just like, huh, thank you. 01:58:29.340 --> 01:58:32.323 [UNKNOWN]: But the reality was, is it was so moving, 01:58:33.775 --> 01:58:35.376 [UNKNOWN]: There was no sarcasm coming from me. 01:58:35.416 --> 01:58:45.162 [UNKNOWN]: It's only right now as I tell the story, but at the time, I mean, I hugged her and... Yeah, I'm feeling that she hugged her back and, you know, it was, you never met her before. 01:58:45.182 --> 01:58:46.603 [UNKNOWN]: And never met her, never seen her again. 01:58:47.424 --> 01:58:50.106 [UNKNOWN]: And so you go, like, like, what? 01:58:50.186 --> 01:58:56.770 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, you know, and so there's signs, I feel like, you know, for people out there that maybe on the fence the way I was, 01:58:58.675 --> 01:59:03.759 [UNKNOWN]: When you actually start looking, those signs will become more and more prevalent. 01:59:04.079 --> 01:59:07.161 [UNKNOWN]: They will just start staring you in the face, right? 01:59:07.221 --> 01:59:14.746 [UNKNOWN]: And so, and I think I've, you know, had moments just around stubborn, you know what I mean? 01:59:14.766 --> 01:59:16.147 [UNKNOWN]: I think I've been stubborn about it. 01:59:16.167 --> 01:59:17.948 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, yeah, I believe Jesus existed. 01:59:18.028 --> 01:59:24.873 [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, and it's not till recently, go, okay, really the pinpoint part of the whole thing is the resurrection. 01:59:26.003 --> 01:59:42.559 [UNKNOWN]: Do you believe that three days later he rose and yeah, you know, and that's the peace and I think that was the part where, you know, you think it's myth, you think it's legend or you don't really know. 01:59:42.579 --> 01:59:47.124 [UNKNOWN]: But now like when the science starts slapping in the face, you know, okay. 01:59:48.800 --> 01:59:59.304 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, I kind of want the same time as moment where you say you're not sure and he shows up and shows you No, I have like now I can say all right. 01:59:59.664 --> 02:00:00.504 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm a center. 02:00:00.524 --> 02:00:04.566 [UNKNOWN]: I have sand Sounds like a fucking other while the right road right now. 02:00:04.666 --> 02:00:14.850 [UNKNOWN]: I believe Jesus existed and he died on the cross and he was re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re 02:00:15.470 --> 02:00:30.173 [UNKNOWN]: That's where I'm at, but it's, you know, it has been a very skeptical road for me for a very long time growing up in Saudi being surrounded by, you know, radical Islam, you know, and then of course for us wars are either religion or real estate. 02:00:38.015 --> 02:00:41.236 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, anyway, that's kind of that type of game buddy. 02:00:41.496 --> 02:00:42.317 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's good. 02:00:42.357 --> 02:00:43.377 [UNKNOWN]: That's a good segue. 02:00:43.417 --> 02:00:51.520 [UNKNOWN]: We can leave it there because we're obviously doing a pitch protocol in November, but I want to re-engage, come to an eye-begin and December. 02:00:52.241 --> 02:00:53.801 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, you can tell about it. 02:00:53.821 --> 02:00:54.741 [UNKNOWN]: You go with, yeah, be happy. 02:00:54.761 --> 02:00:55.922 [UNKNOWN]: You want me to getcha on that one? 02:00:56.202 --> 02:00:56.862 [UNKNOWN]: not to do it. 02:00:56.942 --> 02:00:58.623 [UNKNOWN]: I'd go with you to be your support. 02:00:58.683 --> 02:01:00.484 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, let me look into that for short animal. 02:01:00.504 --> 02:01:01.225 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a good idea. 02:01:01.245 --> 02:01:02.365 [UNKNOWN]: I'm fucking photographer. 02:01:02.405 --> 02:01:03.166 [UNKNOWN]: I'm bringing another guy. 02:01:04.146 --> 02:01:05.227 [UNKNOWN]: Well, I appreciate you stopping by. 02:01:05.247 --> 02:01:08.148 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to do a lot more of this, but the book is awesome. 02:01:08.168 --> 02:01:09.869 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to probably put on my set too. 02:01:09.909 --> 02:01:13.311 [UNKNOWN]: I got to make sure we're legal with everything because the last thing I need is another lawsuit. 02:01:14.112 --> 02:01:15.032 [UNKNOWN]: Awesome time. 02:01:15.052 --> 02:01:15.492 [UNKNOWN]: So good talk. 02:01:15.552 --> 02:01:15.953 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 02:01:15.973 --> 02:01:16.253 [UNKNOWN]: Cheers. 02:01:18.883 --> 02:01:40.285 [UNKNOWN]: that is something isn't it I love hearing from other team guys that are doing different stuff to just to hear find out what else they're doing with the war I think that the uh... and while walkie peace was right after been on right before extortion so it would have been a lot bigger news if if we didn't if we didn't lose extortion one seven 02:01:41.651 --> 02:01:58.279 [UNKNOWN]: But it's so cool that to hear the stuff that Clint was involved with to just just do is doing stuff out there that you don't hear about what a great dude you got to make sure to pick up his book to and then you can join us in apex protocol it's in November of November 23rd in in Las Vegas go to 02:01:59.780 --> 02:02:14.488 [UNKNOWN]: Go to our website, theoperatorscollective.com, look at Apex Protocol, but we're going to be out there, clins going to be out there, I'll be out there, Nick Irving will be out there, will Chesney, a lot of different seals, a lot of fun, a lot of shooting F1 racing, go check that out. 02:02:14.888 --> 02:02:26.614 [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, I'm really happy you joined us for this operator, operator of the operator, this episode of the operator podcast, and if we see you at Apex Protocol, you're definitely never out of the fight.