WEBVTT 00:00.191 --> 00:03.173 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to this very special episode of the 63rd podcast. 00:03.313 --> 00:05.755 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Mark Rober. 00:06.295 --> 00:09.598 [SPEAKER_02]: And our special guest today is Mr. Beath. 00:10.038 --> 00:10.318 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah. 00:10.879 --> 00:11.259 [SPEAKER_02]: And... 00:13.981 --> 00:14.901 [SPEAKER_00]: Camera man John? 00:15.382 --> 00:16.362 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's got something worse. 00:16.382 --> 00:20.545 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like the most offensive canceled youtuber but like in recent memory. 00:20.565 --> 00:23.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Ahhhh. 00:23.507 --> 00:24.168 [SPEAKER_02]: Tabascus? 00:26.011 --> 00:27.192 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's two days. 00:27.692 --> 00:28.112 [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, sorry. 00:28.152 --> 00:28.793 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a side space out. 00:28.813 --> 00:30.414 [SPEAKER_00]: What was your question? 00:30.634 --> 00:31.775 [SPEAKER_00]: No, but he's controversial. 00:31.815 --> 00:32.495 [SPEAKER_00]: Your question is coming. 00:32.515 --> 00:33.556 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably not with our audience. 00:34.636 --> 00:39.700 [SPEAKER_02]: We're just coming up with a fake name to introduce the podcast to make it sound impressive. 00:40.420 --> 00:41.601 [SPEAKER_00]: Your asmin gold. 00:41.721 --> 00:46.424 [SPEAKER_00]: He did a Nakado avocado thing where he actually cleaned up and he looked really good. 00:46.784 --> 00:47.825 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's him right there. 00:47.925 --> 00:49.166 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 00:49.766 --> 00:50.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 00:50.466 --> 00:52.248 [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, I'm asmin gold. 00:53.148 --> 00:54.209 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're the glow up. 00:54.289 --> 00:55.691 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, damn. 00:55.791 --> 00:59.515 [SPEAKER_01]: The most the most canceled person I think recently is Ed Sheeran now. 01:00.135 --> 01:05.261 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's true Yeah, we shouldn't talk about canceled people. 01:05.281 --> 01:06.362 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're gonna get ourselves 01:10.905 --> 01:14.207 [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, dude, I have, like, talking at least going on in the real world. 01:14.267 --> 01:16.588 [SPEAKER_02]: I just do, I just do like science all day. 01:16.988 --> 01:19.929 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'll get like glimpses or someone will be like, have you heard of this? 01:19.949 --> 01:21.950 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I know I haven't and I don't want to. 01:22.030 --> 01:26.232 [SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think the funniest thing is you do, yeah, you do a whole episode on canceled people. 01:26.612 --> 01:32.615 [SPEAKER_01]: You bring up all, yeah, all the people who've messed up, but then in order to have an opinion, you need to 01:33.355 --> 01:45.459 [SPEAKER_01]: Also weigh in on everything they've been canceled on and that's when your opinion you get canceled for every single reason that all these people Yeah, you know are having to yourself ten times at the same time. 01:45.479 --> 01:49.561 [SPEAKER_02]: How this idea I feel like this is a good idea. 01:49.581 --> 01:54.723 [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody should do it is like some sort of media surrounding canceled people 01:55.283 --> 02:19.133 [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's like a podcast that is like hosted by a canceled person and the guests are canceled people yeah, or some sort of like game show it's just canceled people that's good, but you have to draw a line somewhere like have like how bad was the cancellation right yeah I guess not like if they're not in jail, it's fair game right the bar is pretty low if you're doing content and like 02:19.933 --> 02:22.874 [SPEAKER_02]: Completely yeah, I think that's good. 02:23.214 --> 02:23.554 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 02:23.574 --> 02:46.482 [SPEAKER_01]: There's the only way to do it is if you only have canceled people like on Yeah, only canceled people But the worst part is once if you have a bunch of really bad people like there's obviously the the range of like you get canceled because you say something that's like, you know A bit out of left field for your audience and they just kind of reject you, but in another audience you're acceptable There are some people who got canceled 02:48.423 --> 02:54.125 [SPEAKER_01]: I like it like people who've just actually done things that they should be a part of no group within their agenda. 02:54.165 --> 02:58.967 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm saying borderline it's the people who should be in jail, but somehow. 02:59.007 --> 02:59.447 [SPEAKER_01]: No, okay. 02:59.487 --> 03:11.831 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 03:15.592 --> 03:17.474 [SPEAKER_01]: You could be rehabilitating their image. 03:17.494 --> 03:18.254 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they did something. 03:18.295 --> 03:34.088 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 03:41.474 --> 03:42.254 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what it is. 03:42.314 --> 03:46.737 [SPEAKER_00]: Even though you don't go into the, they don't get a chance to defend themselves about everything. 03:46.977 --> 03:48.778 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, wait, I don't, I actually don't know. 03:48.818 --> 03:53.300 [SPEAKER_01]: I think, actually, no, a better, a better, as you can say, you go in. 03:53.620 --> 03:57.602 [SPEAKER_01]: The cancel person goes in and I don't know what you would have to do it. 03:57.642 --> 04:02.285 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a judge or somebody, you actually have to present your case to uncancele yourself. 04:02.725 --> 04:03.085 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, great. 04:03.165 --> 04:03.605 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 04:03.686 --> 04:07.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that you might get obliterated, like people will actually, 04:08.708 --> 04:19.738 [SPEAKER_01]: Mount a case against you and you have to fight it gives you the opportunity in the Whatever in the court of, you know, public opinion That's not a court. 04:19.798 --> 04:20.618 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a court. 04:20.658 --> 04:23.681 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that you're gonna bunch of like youtubers that are but the jury 04:26.595 --> 04:43.560 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 04:56.203 --> 05:04.047 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if it's not like I've learned, like, and so like whatever is the most entertaining outcome is usually what the court of public opinion will be fighting for? 05:04.527 --> 05:09.049 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so I think having creators as the judge maybe it not has to be anonymous too. 05:09.069 --> 05:12.750 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the creators can be there, but like the votes have to be maybe anonymous. 05:12.950 --> 05:17.432 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, people in the comments start a list of canceled YouTubers we should have on this. 05:17.512 --> 05:20.214 [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, well, you do it all live. 05:20.274 --> 05:21.614 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a full court case. 05:22.155 --> 05:25.156 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the people can the viewers vote. 05:26.735 --> 05:33.579 [SPEAKER_01]: And then if you lose, then you're still canceled and also probably more evidence came out against you, so your life is significantly worse. 05:34.159 --> 05:35.420 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think 05:37.750 --> 05:43.293 [SPEAKER_02]: You would have to pay not a lot of money or a ton of money to get these people on. 05:43.313 --> 05:44.154 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't actually know which one. 05:44.474 --> 05:49.237 [SPEAKER_02]: It might be somewhere depending on where they are in their cancellation or how it was. 05:49.417 --> 05:51.758 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you just need a few success cases? 05:51.818 --> 05:54.520 [SPEAKER_01]: Like someone was canceled for something. 05:54.840 --> 05:59.643 [SPEAKER_01]: They go on and they completely present the case that it was a misrepresentation. 05:59.683 --> 06:03.185 [SPEAKER_01]: It's all a misunderstanding and everyone forgives them. 06:07.007 --> 06:12.532 [SPEAKER_02]: People that you like slowly work your way down and it's so buffed this. 06:12.932 --> 06:22.621 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's the most it's such an exploitative medium, but it's I feel like there are examples of this it's so exploitative, but the people you're exploiting no one likes, so it's like 06:23.922 --> 06:30.325 [SPEAKER_01]: It becomes okay, like people watching go this is not okay, but he's happening to someone I don't like so it's okay. 06:30.486 --> 06:31.326 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the other thing? 06:32.627 --> 06:48.155 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really matter like you ever you like the Paul brothers or like the Paul brothers are They're like certified geniuses and I think that they like don't mean to be bad people like I think they just sort of like are like Maybe bad people 06:48.915 --> 06:51.636 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and like, are they canceled? 06:51.656 --> 06:56.178 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know, but they like keep doing things that give them this negative publicity. 06:56.498 --> 06:56.798 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 06:56.978 --> 07:04.502 [SPEAKER_02]: And they thrive from it and so it's really like not even an opportunity to redeem yourself. 07:04.542 --> 07:06.322 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just straight up more publicity. 07:06.382 --> 07:12.425 [SPEAKER_02]: And that pretty much always converts into some form of, you know, revenue, which is sort of like what? 07:13.045 --> 07:20.708 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's actually a fan of them though, like I've never met anybody who likes them looks up to them. 07:20.768 --> 07:21.609 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean now. 07:21.669 --> 07:33.394 [SPEAKER_02]: No back in the day, maybe, but yeah, but the past five years No, no in the like the engagement is like basically like Zilt like you have a he had a podcast at one point that did really good 07:34.673 --> 07:36.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, okay, Logan. 07:37.435 --> 07:38.956 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, like, no maverick. 07:39.016 --> 07:39.536 [SPEAKER_02]: It was the. 07:39.996 --> 07:41.537 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, lots of now. 07:42.037 --> 07:49.341 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, but the podcast is definitely like gone down since COVID, but also like they're still doing it. 07:49.382 --> 07:50.722 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's the same thing. 07:50.742 --> 07:52.703 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're still doing some form of a podcast. 07:53.524 --> 07:58.927 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and so like they're like, he's doing like wrestling stuff, too. 07:59.347 --> 08:02.109 [SPEAKER_00]: And they were just at the fucking, like, yeah. 08:02.129 --> 08:03.850 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's something dude. 08:04.050 --> 08:05.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you see the picture? 08:05.250 --> 08:10.693 [SPEAKER_02]: He was like a terrible white trash, like, mullet, it like straight up looks fake. 08:10.754 --> 08:11.714 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, out of a movie. 08:11.734 --> 08:13.475 [SPEAKER_00]: His hair is just like, it's pretty awesome. 08:13.495 --> 08:15.696 [SPEAKER_00]: He looks like he just got off a weekend bender or something. 08:15.896 --> 08:17.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you awesome. 08:19.859 --> 08:25.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it looks like, you know, people, uh, like, it looked like he was lost at sea for about a month. 08:25.962 --> 08:26.703 [SPEAKER_00]: Like a survivor. 08:26.723 --> 08:27.103 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 08:27.869 --> 08:36.219 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you ever see like the fake pictures or people like in a private jet like the influences in a private jet for the Instagram, but it's like a it's like a set Yeah, but they present it as if it's real. 08:36.439 --> 08:43.828 [SPEAKER_02]: That's like almost what the picture looks like it looks like a set for like a pentagon like a photo app Yeah, yeah, but it's real 08:44.809 --> 08:57.221 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, no, I think, yeah, like, like, I think that there is definitely something for people doing this just to like get any kind of bump in there, you know, online, create a make more money. 08:57.481 --> 09:07.250 [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be surprised if a large majority of these canceled creators are totally willing to do something like this for just like the exposure. 09:07.766 --> 09:29.362 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think a lot of them don't even care also, you know, because they just they power through it and it's like, you know, sure it gets people talking about them, but really they didn't actually do anything like wrong right or maybe as the various as it was exactly, yeah, yeah, I feel like in 50% of the cases of like a public execution, there's always kind of some head scratching of like, is this like, 09:29.842 --> 09:43.546 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, everyone's so against like death penalty and they're so against, you know, and then all of a sudden, you know, it's like, you deserve people get canceled for an opinion about something, you know, for something that they say, people just don't agree with, you know, it's not even something they did. 09:43.606 --> 09:44.406 [SPEAKER_00]: It's entertainment. 09:44.546 --> 09:46.007 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just entertainment. 09:46.347 --> 09:51.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you see the cycles of like, uh, like the cancellation starts, people start making content about it. 09:51.948 --> 09:54.129 [SPEAKER_02]: The person comes back and makes their own content about it. 09:54.409 --> 09:56.670 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it just like starts this vicious cycle. 09:56.810 --> 09:57.130 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:57.290 --> 09:58.791 [SPEAKER_02]: of this like death spiral. 09:58.891 --> 10:00.051 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't know. 10:00.071 --> 10:02.633 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually have no idea how people deal with that stuff. 10:03.193 --> 10:04.673 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the the ukulele lady? 10:05.414 --> 10:05.854 [SPEAKER_02]: Sir name. 10:06.874 --> 10:07.495 [SPEAKER_01]: I forget. 10:07.575 --> 10:08.275 [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know. 10:08.295 --> 10:10.516 [SPEAKER_02]: Miranda Miranda things. 10:10.556 --> 10:11.737 [SPEAKER_02]: I think hers was kind of question. 10:11.757 --> 10:12.897 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember exactly. 10:12.917 --> 10:13.538 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even remember. 10:13.558 --> 10:18.980 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that one was one of the ones who just like, well, I'm not going to defend. 10:19.260 --> 10:21.261 [SPEAKER_02]: There was something I don't actually don't remember what it was. 10:21.281 --> 10:22.582 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it was something that underwear though. 10:23.522 --> 10:24.043 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember. 10:24.223 --> 10:24.423 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not. 10:24.623 --> 10:25.324 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she gave. 10:25.724 --> 10:27.585 [SPEAKER_01]: She sent like underwear to a fan. 10:27.625 --> 10:28.085 [SPEAKER_01]: Something. 10:28.106 --> 10:29.767 [SPEAKER_02]: It was something weird like that. 10:29.847 --> 10:30.547 [SPEAKER_02]: And I like I don't know. 10:30.567 --> 10:31.448 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, did they ask for it? 10:31.808 --> 10:32.228 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 10:32.349 --> 10:34.690 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe I like, I literally. 10:34.710 --> 10:36.351 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's one of those things. 10:36.432 --> 10:38.293 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like she sent it. 10:38.533 --> 10:43.937 [SPEAKER_01]: And then One of her things was, oh, it was like an inside joke with my audience, but everyone's a gay. 10:43.977 --> 10:46.539 [SPEAKER_01]: But you still sent your you still sent it to a child. 10:47.059 --> 10:50.861 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's kind of like, it's like very hard, it was something like that. 10:50.881 --> 10:55.403 [SPEAKER_01]: Like very hard to justify, but then also, I don't think she even, she didn't defend it. 10:55.463 --> 10:59.265 [SPEAKER_01]: She just made a ukulele song. 10:59.325 --> 11:00.466 [SPEAKER_00]: Say I'm not sorry. 11:00.826 --> 11:02.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to be so weird. 11:02.066 --> 11:05.468 [SPEAKER_00]: We're in the unboxings, like sometimes people ask for letters back and stuff. 11:05.548 --> 11:05.848 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:06.329 --> 11:10.351 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I remember one time somebody just sent us a bunch of like playboy trading cards. 11:10.391 --> 11:10.851 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. 11:10.871 --> 11:14.773 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was a bunch of people that wanted letters back and you're like, oh, everybody gets a playboy trading card. 11:15.553 --> 11:18.155 [SPEAKER_00]: And then also like, uh, no, look at this kids handwriting. 11:18.175 --> 11:19.416 [SPEAKER_00]: He's definitely not 18 yet. 11:19.456 --> 11:26.040 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, do everything he's to find out, like, a, like, a soccer magazine. 11:26.080 --> 11:26.560 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 11:26.620 --> 11:26.920 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 11:26.941 --> 11:27.821 [SPEAKER_02]: And a family member. 11:27.861 --> 11:28.642 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is family. 11:28.662 --> 11:29.362 [SPEAKER_02]: Which was so big. 11:29.382 --> 11:30.123 [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't see anything. 11:30.163 --> 11:32.224 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, which one senior junior? 11:33.425 --> 11:34.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was a senior. 11:37.400 --> 11:38.001 [SPEAKER_02]: Which president? 11:39.222 --> 11:40.803 [SPEAKER_00]: No, not the desert storm trading cards. 11:40.963 --> 11:41.364 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, fuck. 11:41.484 --> 11:42.865 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 11:43.486 --> 11:44.947 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I think a podcast. 11:45.288 --> 11:47.910 [SPEAKER_02]: I think some sort of game game shows kind of expensive. 11:48.931 --> 11:53.275 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of, I like the idea of a trap door that it's our council, everybody pushes a button. 11:53.295 --> 11:55.137 [SPEAKER_02]: And they just like, oh, that's good. 11:55.337 --> 11:55.678 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 11:56.158 --> 11:57.039 [SPEAKER_02]: Like canceled again. 11:57.780 --> 11:59.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe they, they fall into like a pit. 12:00.822 --> 12:01.403 [SPEAKER_02]: What's in the pit? 12:02.557 --> 12:08.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Spooky lighting, some foam blocks, shame, or of shame. 12:08.719 --> 12:12.240 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, a waiver, and a couple of thousand dollars, only if they sign the waiver. 12:12.320 --> 12:16.081 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I, I've been, 12:20.640 --> 12:22.041 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh god, I forgot what I was going to say. 12:24.022 --> 12:26.063 [SPEAKER_00]: You were just talking about the game show, like, you know? 12:26.683 --> 12:29.584 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm podcast game show, like what else we could do. 12:29.684 --> 12:32.826 [SPEAKER_02]: I've just been like glued, I've been glued to my computer. 12:33.486 --> 12:37.408 [SPEAKER_02]: And I have, how have do you clean your computer? 12:38.448 --> 12:39.349 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm having this problem. 12:39.589 --> 12:41.950 [SPEAKER_00]: I've, like, once every three years. 12:42.170 --> 12:44.211 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the symptoms I caused to clean your computer? 12:45.242 --> 12:47.444 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, my crafty is what I've stopped working. 12:47.504 --> 12:47.764 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 12:47.924 --> 12:48.164 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 12:48.184 --> 12:48.685 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 12:48.825 --> 12:50.026 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, elaborate. 12:50.386 --> 12:50.946 [SPEAKER_02]: What did it do? 12:50.966 --> 12:51.807 [SPEAKER_02]: How was the symptom? 12:53.068 --> 12:58.011 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember I used to tell you all that I'm like, my computer just keeps randomly turning off and I can't figure out what it is. 12:58.111 --> 12:58.472 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 12:58.492 --> 12:59.973 [SPEAKER_00]: I was getting like blue screen errors. 13:00.013 --> 13:01.154 [SPEAKER_00]: I was getting glitches. 13:01.214 --> 13:02.334 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes it wouldn't food. 13:02.354 --> 13:03.375 [SPEAKER_00]: It would get hot in the loop. 13:10.360 --> 13:13.962 [SPEAKER_00]: But the whole thing, yeah, like, so I'm like, oh, maybe it's just really dusty. 13:14.982 --> 13:15.822 [SPEAKER_00]: So I cleaned it. 13:16.203 --> 13:17.403 [SPEAKER_00]: That didn't fix the problem. 13:17.583 --> 13:17.863 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 13:18.083 --> 13:22.765 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I noticed like the graphics card had corrosion on the pens. 13:23.806 --> 13:23.946 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. 13:24.066 --> 13:24.306 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 13:24.326 --> 13:30.889 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's because the water cooling loop dripped like one or two draft or something on the graphics card and fried it. 13:30.969 --> 13:33.850 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I've been having the same problem which has shut off. 13:34.190 --> 13:35.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that the same thing as you Nigel? 13:37.243 --> 13:40.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, I mean, I haven't had a problem in a while. 13:40.607 --> 13:41.428 [SPEAKER_01]: No, lucky dog. 13:41.949 --> 13:43.450 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and your SSD. 13:43.551 --> 13:43.891 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm. 13:45.172 --> 13:49.497 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it only happened when the GPU, I've been doing some like GPU stuff. 13:49.638 --> 13:50.198 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm. 13:50.238 --> 13:53.722 [SPEAKER_02]: And it only happened when the GPU was like running it full tilt for a bit. 13:54.593 --> 13:59.156 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I, like, took it apart and it's like, it's pretty clean on the inside. 13:59.176 --> 14:02.459 [SPEAKER_02]: My cat lays on top of the box, so it's like, there's, it's fucking disgusting. 14:02.499 --> 14:06.221 [SPEAKER_02]: I should just like, there's like a filter on top of the fans and it's like filled with the cat. 14:06.742 --> 14:08.603 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, but nothing made it inside. 14:08.623 --> 14:09.424 [SPEAKER_02]: But nothing goes in. 14:09.444 --> 14:10.925 [SPEAKER_02]: The inside is like really fine dust. 14:11.705 --> 14:25.195 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I just took a bar and cleaned it and I like, I unplug all the power cables and then plug them back in and I'm hoping that fixes it, but like, man, it really makes me, I don't know. 14:25.933 --> 14:29.134 [SPEAKER_00]: I was also having a problem at the same time, separate problem. 14:29.814 --> 14:31.515 [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought this was the cause. 14:31.675 --> 14:37.777 [SPEAKER_00]: My SSD wasn't like plugged into the motherboard correctly or something. 14:37.797 --> 14:50.022 [SPEAKER_00]: I just remember looking at it with a thermal camera and it was like $195 degrees and I wasn't really doing anything and I think it was like the power connection on it or like who knows the data lines, something wasn't set correctly. 14:50.782 --> 14:52.806 [SPEAKER_02]: I have- have you looked into like computer parts? 14:52.826 --> 14:58.638 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know that everybody knows it's expensive like have you actually looked into computer parts like what your current computers were there 14:59.764 --> 15:00.744 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no. 15:01.084 --> 15:02.445 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because I bought my computer. 15:02.485 --> 15:03.985 [SPEAKER_02]: I built it like six or seven. 15:04.065 --> 15:08.046 [SPEAKER_02]: God, maybe even eight years ago, and it's worth more money now. 15:08.586 --> 15:09.146 [SPEAKER_02]: No way. 15:09.186 --> 15:10.227 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, then I paid for it. 15:10.267 --> 15:10.527 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude. 15:10.987 --> 15:14.408 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just was last year. 15:14.428 --> 15:17.769 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like, you know, and sometimes I get lucky doing things. 15:18.629 --> 15:22.610 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I decided to re to upgrade all the computers around the office. 15:23.630 --> 15:25.691 [SPEAKER_01]: And part of it, I was like, you know what? 15:25.711 --> 15:27.352 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go all in on RAM. 15:28.273 --> 15:34.977 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I built I think four computers or five computers or I think it was four computers or what? 15:36.042 --> 15:53.307 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I decided not to, but they're like 30, they were the 9950X, so like 16 core AMD, I also bought our 5080s for every single one and then I also got 128 gigs of RAM and for each one dude, I think it was 15:54.568 --> 16:10.129 [SPEAKER_01]: two months after or was one month after I bought a 128 gigs of RAM it was triple the price yeah it was right when they announced they're like oh no the massive RAM shortage they're not making RAM for people anymore it's all data center crap so then 16:10.990 --> 16:17.877 [SPEAKER_01]: I literally was like, if I wanted to, I could sell half my RAM and it will fully subsidize all the RAM that I have. 16:17.917 --> 16:20.900 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would just only out only have 64 gigs after that. 16:21.701 --> 16:24.724 [SPEAKER_01]: And then even now, the 5080, I looked up the price the other day. 16:25.225 --> 16:27.927 [SPEAKER_01]: Canadian, they were already inflated at the time. 16:28.007 --> 16:28.768 [SPEAKER_01]: They were 1,400 on Amazon. 16:30.790 --> 16:35.353 [SPEAKER_01]: And now I checked yesterday, they're 2400 so they've got up a thousand dollars. 16:36.054 --> 16:37.675 [SPEAKER_01]: I could literally sell all the RAM. 16:38.336 --> 16:40.837 [SPEAKER_01]: The graphics cards like you're saying all for a profit. 16:40.997 --> 16:42.519 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, wait, what did I, I just bought a 59 D like. 16:43.725 --> 16:45.886 [SPEAKER_00]: four months ago, I can't remember what I paid. 16:45.906 --> 16:50.189 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a best buy, and it was like, you know, one that came with RGB lights. 16:50.429 --> 16:54.211 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was maybe like 500, 400 above MSRP. 16:55.272 --> 16:56.032 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I've seen. 16:56.052 --> 16:58.634 [SPEAKER_02]: What are they, what are they normally a thousand? 16:58.654 --> 17:01.195 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a 50, 80s are like probably under 2,000 or 50, 80 or 50, 90. 17:04.217 --> 17:04.417 [SPEAKER_00]: 58. 17:04.498 --> 17:05.339 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, coward. 17:05.719 --> 17:07.081 [SPEAKER_00]: The 58 was a 50. 17:07.101 --> 17:07.161 [SPEAKER_00]: 90. 17:07.321 --> 17:08.602 [SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense. 17:08.923 --> 17:09.143 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 17:09.183 --> 17:12.367 [SPEAKER_01]: 58 was like a thousand US for a while. 17:12.387 --> 17:13.708 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe I do have a 59. 17:14.169 --> 17:14.950 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember, man. 17:15.395 --> 17:25.798 [SPEAKER_01]: I looked up at 1590 recently on Amazon right now in Canadian, they were $8,000 and when I was looking at it, when I was buying them, they were $3,000. 17:26.458 --> 17:30.540 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the computer that I, I think it was okay, I was like, that's obscene. 17:30.700 --> 17:44.544 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a 24 core bread wrapper that I bought mostly for like video editing and I'm like, the stuff that I'm doing with it right now, I'm like, I need, I want more, I'm like, 17:45.284 --> 18:07.127 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how much more money would it cost to like get the for the same socket the like the 36 or 48 core one it's just like straight up more money than I like spent on the entire computer when I got it like I think I paid like a thousand dollars for that chip and it's like like It's something between a thousand and 2000 at this point for the same exact one 18:08.165 --> 18:08.905 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's insane. 18:09.165 --> 18:12.246 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's actually in that shit insane. 18:12.306 --> 18:20.949 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't I don't think at any point in my life Have like has a computer been like more of a resource than it is now like even old computers, man. 18:21.169 --> 18:21.529 [SPEAKER_01]: Like yes. 18:21.649 --> 18:26.811 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like I was about to say I stepped on my Mac, but I have an M1 MacBook Pro. 18:26.851 --> 18:31.192 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I was so sad because it was like I think I talked about this Like several months ago. 18:31.532 --> 18:32.352 [SPEAKER_01]: I stepped on it. 18:32.752 --> 18:35.933 [SPEAKER_01]: So it has no screen now, but I was literally thinking I can get 18:38.558 --> 18:43.943 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly for an obscene amount of money because people would just be like, Oh, it's I just need the computing power it. 18:44.003 --> 18:46.886 [SPEAKER_01]: I can just where's back it like before all this. 18:46.966 --> 18:49.348 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were to sell it, people will be like, Oh, yeah. 18:49.549 --> 18:49.889 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 18:49.909 --> 18:51.551 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the price to fix the screen? 18:51.791 --> 18:52.852 [SPEAKER_01]: How much could I get for it? 18:52.912 --> 18:55.835 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, they pay you like not very much for it. 18:56.976 --> 19:02.261 [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas now, yeah, you can probably get way more than you should, because like you said, someone to want it for a server computer. 19:03.962 --> 19:25.601 [SPEAKER_02]: it's so easy to do, like I, I, I, I, I, I mean, you know what, we don't, we don't have to get no, I don't get it, I, I, it's like I honestly though, it's moving on, having like a basically like a, like not even a render farm, but like a, like multiple computers working on the same thing for validation and like having them talk back and forth, like a server farm has been like, 19:26.722 --> 19:47.234 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, I don't know man, it just makes me want to grab every old computer that I have laying around And like set them up in a closet and then just make them like work like instead of like sitting there and doing nothing Yeah, like do work like go do things that need to get done Yeah, even those old laptops that I have yes like everything like those might be too old, but like they'll do something 19:51.589 --> 19:53.331 [SPEAKER_02]: I, uh, oh my god. 19:54.412 --> 19:57.454 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it looks like grandpa cards are at all time high right now. 19:59.536 --> 20:02.439 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's Dude, 600 bucks over MSR. 20:02.479 --> 20:03.800 [SPEAKER_00]: What's happening with games? 20:04.640 --> 20:07.423 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the game, what's the game situation for gamers? 20:09.016 --> 20:20.382 [SPEAKER_01]: All I know, dude, all I know is that I'm waiting for the day that, I don't know, just everything, this, it can't keep going like this, can't it? 20:20.922 --> 20:30.667 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I do, I know, I mean, my, my expertise, my, you know, me, my geopolitical economic education for my education that I don't have. 20:32.108 --> 20:33.871 [SPEAKER_02]: right, it's like supply and demand, right? 20:33.931 --> 20:47.829 [SPEAKER_02]: If people are demanding a bunch of things, then the price shoots up and that's what's happened and if the price shoots up then like more people want to tap into that money and so they then start making things to tap into that money 20:49.148 --> 20:54.031 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that it's like the whole, I don't know, I had this thought the other day. 20:54.051 --> 20:56.873 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, bear with me, it's only half-formed. 20:56.973 --> 20:59.195 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, I find it kind of interesting. 20:59.215 --> 21:12.684 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause something I always thought that was, I mean, interesting was that when radio active stuff was first discovered, the biggest application it had was like glow in the dark paint, glazes. 21:13.024 --> 21:14.645 [SPEAKER_01]: They just were like, it's like cool. 21:14.725 --> 21:15.046 [SPEAKER_01]: Cool. 21:15.906 --> 21:17.628 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're like, yeah, it affects Phil. 21:17.688 --> 21:19.630 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can do like some imaging stuff. 21:19.690 --> 21:20.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Bomb. 21:20.991 --> 21:27.177 [SPEAKER_01]: So what I'm trying to say is like, then at some point over a short period of time, it accelerates to its making bombs. 21:27.618 --> 21:30.321 [SPEAKER_01]: And now there's like radio access of badge. 21:30.361 --> 21:31.121 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't own it. 21:31.462 --> 21:33.924 [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like I always thought that was interesting. 21:33.944 --> 21:38.208 [SPEAKER_01]: That I went from like benign and useless, not useless, but like very benign to like, 21:39.029 --> 22:04.074 [SPEAKER_01]: mass destruction and I feel like there's a parallel there to just the the good old gamer just trying to buy a graphics card and you know play a game and then suddenly now it's like people are hoarding it because if they can build these data farms it can probably make like AI to hack places and so governments are gonna want to clamp down literally I just saw an article that they busted a legal smuggling of graphics cards because 22:07.615 --> 22:25.665 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't people are going to traffic graphics cards and they're going to target to steal them because if you can build like you could build your own like little AI thing because at some point, you know, what's it called, you try to do get whatever any of the big AI services to plan some horrible. 22:25.785 --> 22:28.046 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude, I mean, you ever can't do that. 22:28.326 --> 22:32.128 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever talked to an open source model? 22:34.074 --> 22:53.333 [SPEAKER_02]: uh yeah dude you can ask them anything and they do not care care at all in saying except if you ask the Chinese one what happened on June 19th I don't know if it's a my we can ask you right now a friend hooked one up for me 22:54.540 --> 23:16.471 [SPEAKER_02]: Which one is it I don't actually know I think one is quiet and with the other one dolphin no, no, not that Don't know that one But like I said how to make a new yeah, and it was just like it just tells me how to make a new can I was like well, how do I do it doing using only things from home depot and it just laughed at me 23:18.332 --> 23:22.998 [SPEAKER_02]: It's said to go, you're basically going to need all these things, which are really expensive, right? 23:23.018 --> 23:23.318 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 23:23.358 --> 23:24.299 [SPEAKER_02]: But like affordable. 23:24.560 --> 23:24.820 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 23:25.561 --> 23:29.646 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the problem is actually, I mean, we've talked about this before, it's like the centrifuge. 23:29.986 --> 23:30.267 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:30.527 --> 23:33.310 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, it's just a minor problem to do it. 23:34.091 --> 23:40.016 [SPEAKER_02]: and like the power consumption to do it and the time to do it, the physical space to do that. 23:40.776 --> 23:46.200 [SPEAKER_02]: And but it had like a full sort of like, not planned, but like explanation of like where to get. 23:46.260 --> 23:47.761 [SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy materials from. 23:47.781 --> 23:51.364 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, you could like these are countries like basically how it worked back in the days. 23:51.384 --> 23:58.409 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you went to sort of like they would go to like collapsing, uh, you know, countries that like were nuclear, like had nuclear technology. 23:58.949 --> 24:05.614 [SPEAKER_02]: And then once the governmental structure started falling apart it became a lot easier to do like a back room under the table You know, okay. 24:05.634 --> 24:07.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, how do we make a government fall apart? 24:07.656 --> 24:07.956 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 24:08.056 --> 24:22.668 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, exactly And you know, I mean, I'm just sort of it doesn't really matter right because like I'm never going to fall these instructions because yeah I'm saying But like I'm assuming that this is all like relatively pointing in the right direction information. 24:22.688 --> 24:25.330 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah You know, you're not asking to do anything complicated. 24:25.350 --> 24:25.710 [SPEAKER_02]: What is it? 24:25.970 --> 24:28.691 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, that sounds pretty ambitious for a first project. 24:28.751 --> 24:30.752 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you should try making nitroglycerin first. 24:30.772 --> 24:33.394 [SPEAKER_00]: That's way more easy to make with stuff from the hardware. 24:33.414 --> 24:38.256 [SPEAKER_02]: I ask you how to make, you know, everyone's favorite, uh, uh, stimulant. 24:38.396 --> 24:41.598 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just like, it gave me the, the method to do it. 24:41.658 --> 24:43.919 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're like step for say, I told it's like step by step. 24:44.599 --> 24:48.321 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you do the, I don't even want to, I don't want to say it. 24:48.341 --> 24:51.803 [SPEAKER_02]: The elaborate, the, the, the, the shake. 24:52.472 --> 25:17.300 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and but yeah all I was all I was saying is that I think that it is such a weird parallel how it goes from these innocuous items these graphics cards suddenly like everyone wants them it's not just like the average person it's like the government wants your graphics card and you're like man I just I just 25:18.320 --> 25:21.684 [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to be able to go to the store and buy a graphics card play a game. 25:22.125 --> 25:28.552 [SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe maybe, I mean, I could be completely wrong and I probably am, because maybe the demand just keeps going and going. 25:28.592 --> 25:32.036 [SPEAKER_02]: Going is that they will be cheaper, right? 25:32.056 --> 25:33.658 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you're going to end up with, like, what's the thing? 25:33.978 --> 25:36.039 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like a huge surplus, like a huge surplus. 25:36.059 --> 25:38.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, because everyone winds, I always like fidget spinners, right? 25:38.500 --> 25:44.523 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember the fidget spinner debacle, like, yeah, that whole fad pumped up a bunch of like enthusiasm for fidget spinners. 25:44.543 --> 25:51.226 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the time it got down to these like little, like, local businesses that we're ordering shipping containers full of them, that's like giving them a way. 25:51.246 --> 25:51.886 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 25:52.186 --> 25:58.330 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, oh, we've ordered, we've vastly over-estimated the, you know, demand for these things. 25:58.390 --> 25:58.670 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 25:58.770 --> 26:00.811 [SPEAKER_02]: The fad died and you end up dying. 26:00.891 --> 26:06.595 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you saw those things for f**king years, I know, here's shelves, man. 26:06.635 --> 26:06.875 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:06.955 --> 26:13.059 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it was insane how long that like supply of fidget spinners coasted for. 26:13.839 --> 26:23.927 [SPEAKER_02]: Like when you probably had their way borders, like I can't get in bearing for a wheels man Or like they were trying to get rid of these shitty bearings that they'd made for fidget spinners and they're like passing him off Escape board bearings. 26:23.947 --> 26:25.008 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah garbage. 26:25.088 --> 26:39.760 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah It's up maybe what happens if we're lucky is you get this like big wind up of you know Like semi-conductor and in memory and other whatever other bullshit goes into these things because like they're just straight up is like 26:41.211 --> 26:44.916 [SPEAKER_02]: an order of magnitude more demand like I don't actually know how much demand there is. 26:44.976 --> 26:47.539 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not infinite, but a lot. 26:47.799 --> 26:55.890 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just wanted all to collapse and then like you said, there's just like, well, like, howl it's of graphics cards for pennies on the dollar. 26:55.910 --> 26:57.011 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's my question. 26:57.051 --> 26:58.453 [SPEAKER_00]: New generation comes out. 26:58.633 --> 26:59.313 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. 26:59.433 --> 27:01.374 [SPEAKER_00]: You think they're just going to keep all the deficient ones. 27:01.554 --> 27:02.535 [SPEAKER_02]: So here's like an idea. 27:02.555 --> 27:05.596 [SPEAKER_02]: A friend of mine had an idea years ago that I still think was a really good idea. 27:05.636 --> 27:09.858 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's in San Francisco, works for tech company, his stock would vest. 27:10.218 --> 27:12.239 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he'd have this money that would just get taxed. 27:12.299 --> 27:20.243 [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, well, I need to figure out a way to do something with this so that I can write it off or however, however that works I don't actually know. 27:20.783 --> 27:28.027 [SPEAKER_02]: And so his plan was like, what if we set up a solar farm in the desert and we put a sick Bitcoin miners on that? 27:28.660 --> 27:43.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so you like invest your infrastructure into the miners, which then I don't even remember the whole scheme and never did it, but like the idea was you never would you'd never look back, you would just leave them there for a year. 27:44.348 --> 27:47.830 [SPEAKER_02]: And it would just always be mining even if it was worth left. 27:48.705 --> 27:58.488 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it just you just forget about it and so I feel like right now because of you know whatever the like compute shortage or whatever, I don't know I live no idea what's going on. 27:58.988 --> 28:04.610 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel you just set it up and then you just literally leave that box plugged in forever. 28:04.890 --> 28:16.213 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's how like most like Google, like these big servers do it like they just sometimes they like will decommissionment, but like why would like there's not really a reason to like if it has capacity, you just let it go open a new data center. 28:16.413 --> 28:16.733 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:16.753 --> 28:19.075 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it costs more money than it's generating. 28:19.375 --> 28:19.895 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 28:19.915 --> 28:21.096 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys have your open a new one. 28:21.536 --> 28:26.419 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, at that point, I mean, it might like who knows what kinds of new technology is going to come out. 28:27.039 --> 28:30.802 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you now have to like go uninstall the old stuff reconfigured. 28:30.822 --> 28:32.262 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it like it might be worth it. 28:32.403 --> 28:36.285 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like versus just building a new one in the middle of your neighborhood. 28:37.736 --> 28:38.276 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it could be. 28:38.316 --> 29:01.966 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, you know, with the new, uh, with the Chinese laser cutter modules, like you can buy those on eBay right now for, you know, 100 hundreds of dollars, because there are polls from the old, like factory, uh, because it's just so much more efficient to have, like, a slightly better laser, uh, even if you, like, just bought this laser for $10,000, it's worth it to just throw it away and buy a new one for $15,000, because it's more efficient 29:07.368 --> 29:29.862 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the laser I understand because it's like it requires like infrastructure around it, right, but like a box is just doing compute like the way I see it is it requires zero main And if it requires maintenance and that means maintenance is like doesn't destroy the profitability they'll do the main Yeah requires maintenance and that it's like like a total space and we get like totally a car 29:30.785 --> 29:40.911 [SPEAKER_02]: So like if you like you ever see the thing recently where they're like pay you to like have a freaking server like on your house Yeah, I saw that like I don't know. 29:40.971 --> 29:52.599 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just somebody that like proposed that idea and like sort of insane idea Um, like would they come out and take it off at some point or they just leave it there forever 29:53.586 --> 29:55.487 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, okay, so this is what I'm thinking. 29:55.768 --> 29:58.910 [SPEAKER_00]: The new generation of hardware is going to be so much better. 29:59.190 --> 30:03.113 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be like trying to run an Xbox game on an Nintendo 64 or something. 30:03.253 --> 30:03.553 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 30:03.593 --> 30:15.201 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it'll just take that like current hardware, like the past hardware, so much longer to like compute and answer on these new giant models, like who knows that that they're actually just paperweight. 30:15.282 --> 30:18.424 [SPEAKER_02]: I know, you're totally right, but like if there's a solar farm somewhere, 30:23.127 --> 30:28.852 [SPEAKER_02]: If you get rid of it, you now have to like rip everything out and reinstall all new stuff. 30:29.373 --> 30:32.236 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the interim is like it's out of commission. 30:32.676 --> 30:40.143 [SPEAKER_02]: The whole grid around it needs to be built up versus just like buying the plot neck to it and building a second one. 30:41.173 --> 30:46.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I think what data centers are using for their graphics cards and stuff aren't consumer graphics cards. 30:46.718 --> 30:49.320 [SPEAKER_00]: They might be using the same with chips and stuff like that. 30:49.340 --> 30:50.361 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have talked about this. 30:50.601 --> 31:00.830 [SPEAKER_02]: I looked into you how much money, like a one server that is like answering your chat, like you haven't checked on. 31:01.030 --> 31:01.450 [SPEAKER_02]: $300,000. 31:01.470 --> 31:03.112 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, how big is it? 31:03.436 --> 31:13.581 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like I don't actually like server rack like one server rack or is it one box like I don't know like one one row of a server but power I have no idea just talking on my ass. 31:13.621 --> 31:16.403 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's like an entire rack. 31:16.503 --> 31:20.945 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, I can't imagine that one little box costs $300,000. 31:21.445 --> 31:24.487 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've seen what they that you know server GPUs look like 31:25.167 --> 31:25.447 [SPEAKER_00]: A.I. 31:25.468 --> 31:26.829 [SPEAKER_02]: they're like, I think it's like multiple. 31:26.869 --> 31:27.069 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't. 31:27.129 --> 31:34.595 [SPEAKER_00]: I really just look like a big chunk of silicone like a silicon chip on a board with like copper water heating or water cooling box on it. 31:34.675 --> 31:35.736 [SPEAKER_00]: It looks crazy. 31:36.929 --> 31:53.434 [SPEAKER_02]: I, I'm definitely, yeah, I, I think there's two ways to go this down, like, you either, like, you're kind of consumer gaming GPUs are like, uh, going to be really cheap in the future, or anything that gets installed, will like never be uninstalled. 31:53.934 --> 31:54.494 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 31:54.514 --> 31:57.895 [SPEAKER_02]: And when you finally do get something on install, it's going to be like 10, 15 years old. 31:59.662 --> 32:21.460 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that that makes sense because like you can you can get pretty shitty graphics cards right now like they're they're still worthless right like you I feel bad saying this but like the 1080s or the home the precious I have the 1080s are not expensive because they don't really have they don't like have any value towards this compute and so like they would be stupid to install on I mean I'm sure somebody's done something but like 32:23.570 --> 32:23.891 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 32:23.971 --> 32:25.853 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that we might do. 32:26.173 --> 32:28.056 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we might just be sort of host, right? 32:28.096 --> 32:36.286 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why would somebody manufacture like consumer grade hardware when the demand is in the like server grade hardware, right? 32:36.326 --> 32:37.167 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know. 32:37.347 --> 32:40.050 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think I don't know, man. 32:41.652 --> 32:42.712 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it might just be screwed. 32:42.732 --> 32:44.113 [SPEAKER_02]: I think gamers might be screwed for them. 32:44.133 --> 32:47.075 [SPEAKER_00]: I think people that own compute, we're not going to own computers. 32:47.335 --> 32:48.416 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no. 32:48.436 --> 32:51.178 [SPEAKER_00]: I have Chromebooks with Wi-Fi, that's it. 32:51.218 --> 32:53.459 [SPEAKER_02]: You have an operating system is on the cloud. 32:53.639 --> 32:56.121 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like phones will still be a thing. 32:56.241 --> 33:00.324 [SPEAKER_02]: And like maybe gaming moves to like mobile devices. 33:00.444 --> 33:01.424 [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea. 33:01.485 --> 33:03.026 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I really genuinely don't know. 33:03.126 --> 33:04.466 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been playing a bunch of games recently. 33:04.486 --> 33:05.167 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you played anything? 33:06.298 --> 33:12.863 [SPEAKER_00]: I play some, like, you know, on the computer, but no, like, crazy intensive games. 33:12.923 --> 33:19.849 [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I think what's, what's coming out, like, Grand Theft Auto, probably some new call of duties. 33:19.909 --> 33:23.572 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, nobody really owns Xboxes or play stations anymore. 33:23.592 --> 33:31.058 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, for the most part, I mean, some people do, but I doubt they're selling as well as they used to, like, probably by an, you know, orders of magnitude. 33:31.198 --> 33:31.498 [SPEAKER_00]: Why? 33:33.339 --> 33:38.682 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think it's like a like a millennial thing now. 33:38.942 --> 33:41.763 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I think computer performance has gotten like better. 33:41.843 --> 33:43.704 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but what's like, what are like 10-year-old kids doing? 33:45.065 --> 33:47.186 [SPEAKER_02]: Are they just doing like tech talk and stuff? 33:47.586 --> 33:48.666 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, they're playing the game. 33:48.686 --> 33:49.947 [SPEAKER_02]: They're doing probably on their phone. 33:50.167 --> 33:50.707 [SPEAKER_00]: No, on a computer. 33:50.727 --> 33:53.749 [SPEAKER_01]: They're doing crypto scams or 10-year-olds scams? 33:54.129 --> 33:54.889 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably VR. 33:54.949 --> 33:55.390 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them. 33:56.010 --> 33:57.050 [SPEAKER_01]: Which one is the other thing? 33:57.090 --> 33:57.551 [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing? 33:57.571 --> 33:58.051 [SPEAKER_01]: The robot. 33:58.271 --> 33:58.651 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 33:58.791 --> 34:00.432 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, you can take a look at the phone though. 34:02.067 --> 34:18.587 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe I don't know you don't know you kidding me the absolutely there's a way to leave that gap open I bet my life that you can play roblox on a phone I don't know anything about roblox I know that it's like club penguin, but mixed with grant theft auto and parents don't know it 34:19.091 --> 34:28.079 [SPEAKER_00]: I think before you used to have like exclusive releases for consoles, but now you don't, most, you know, most the time they just release it like on all platforms. 34:28.239 --> 34:32.403 [SPEAKER_02]: What what even is like the gaming hype right now other than GTA 6? 34:32.463 --> 34:36.887 [SPEAKER_02]: Like what is like I remember being, you know, in middle school elementary school. 34:36.907 --> 34:38.609 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so much hype for game. 34:38.769 --> 34:40.150 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the new Halo is coming out. 34:40.370 --> 34:43.451 [SPEAKER_02]: Do all of duty freaking yeah bent bro. 34:43.491 --> 35:04.901 [SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah, I remember like new Halo came out and I didn't even play games because my parents didn't let me But like I would play at friends houses, but I was shit because my parents didn't let me yeah, and so it was like I don't even remember like what would it come out and like late high school Which Halo is that like was it the last Halo one for maybe yeah, and like there were there's like 20 people in that in someone's house 35:05.976 --> 35:11.457 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, yeah, like a whole thing did land parties were so good when you literally had to hook up. 35:11.737 --> 35:18.519 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, basically you're your ex box and people have to come over and bring your shit to your friend's house. 35:18.619 --> 35:21.280 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it was like it wasn't just like casual. 35:21.300 --> 35:24.680 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a whole All those cords and everything. 35:24.840 --> 35:26.921 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like what what is that now? 35:27.021 --> 35:31.902 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that that's not that's not now Is it like it doesn't happen and it's just sad. 35:32.022 --> 35:34.963 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's like you're just it's all online 35:38.605 --> 35:59.537 [SPEAKER_01]: I think so because there was that time where it's like if you wanted to play multiplayer you had to go to someone else's house because there was only split screen offline like you had you had to you know meet up where is I think it's a balance and it is really convenient that you can connect with people without leaving your house but also that makes you kind of never leave your house. 36:02.383 --> 36:03.724 [SPEAKER_02]: I just haven't played anything. 36:03.764 --> 36:10.048 [SPEAKER_02]: The only games I played haven't been playing any child, playing like super Mario Odyssey, which is like at this point, like what six plus years old? 36:11.169 --> 36:11.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:11.449 --> 36:13.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Association, like, or, no, that's not a switch. 36:15.571 --> 36:16.512 [SPEAKER_02]: My switch from like 2018. 36:18.373 --> 36:20.475 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I don't even like the new Mario games. 36:20.696 --> 36:21.977 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's so much going on. 36:22.157 --> 36:24.980 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, isn't it like just visual stimulation overload? 36:25.000 --> 36:26.182 [SPEAKER_02]: Not too bad. 36:26.222 --> 36:27.063 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know. 36:27.103 --> 36:29.445 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not it's not really like my jam. 36:29.826 --> 36:34.030 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I like more exploration, but I just like don't anything. 36:34.111 --> 36:34.871 [SPEAKER_02]: Just don't any time. 36:35.572 --> 36:44.383 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just always always be for congrinding right did you ever play halo of board the map making asked about it? 36:44.463 --> 36:48.829 [SPEAKER_02]: I never I didn't I wasn't allowed my parents would well, you're for your friends place. 36:48.969 --> 36:50.791 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know didn't let me play cuz shit 36:52.198 --> 36:53.359 [SPEAKER_00]: board was a lot of fun. 36:53.399 --> 36:54.879 [SPEAKER_00]: You would have loved for it. 36:54.899 --> 36:55.220 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:55.640 --> 37:00.482 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it was like a really, really well implemented map maker for halo. 37:00.883 --> 37:02.403 [SPEAKER_02]: I probably think I kind of remember that. 37:02.664 --> 37:06.926 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you definitely like if you're playing online, you probably, you know, played maps that people made. 37:07.106 --> 37:07.526 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 37:07.666 --> 37:10.808 [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, you could put vehicles down weapons down like the high school. 37:11.228 --> 37:29.048 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, even Halo 3 had for it and it was just so good and there were so many weird little mechanics that you could tinker with to like, you know, it's like redstone in my craft basically like Yeah, I think there was there's like, you know, portals and there's like timers and all this other stuff that you can set up 37:29.208 --> 37:47.215 [SPEAKER_02]: The only thing I did kind of like that was a Starcraft custom maps and oh yeah, no yeah fucking idea what was going on it was crazy like I like I remember like just building custom maps and like seeing all the crazy ship people did with like really exploding 37:47.595 --> 38:06.871 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for the warbs that's like, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop 38:12.650 --> 38:21.383 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I like I basically didn't really get to like play with that at all because it's like it was there, but it was completely like we should play starcraft 38:22.051 --> 38:28.995 [SPEAKER_02]: What even, I remember in, it's like, sarcraft two was supposed to come out when I was like a sophomore in high school or something. 38:29.455 --> 38:36.880 [SPEAKER_02]: And I ran cross-country and the cross-country is sort of like notorious like, to nerds, I think, you're kind of saying. 38:37.560 --> 38:38.841 [SPEAKER_02]: And at least my team. 38:39.401 --> 38:45.685 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like magic that gathering, but like not the like competition edge, like skinny magic that gathering is like athletic ones. 38:45.985 --> 38:47.026 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's custom. 38:47.146 --> 38:57.736 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and so I like those guys that I'll play Starcraft and they were like so excited like that those get like a year old in me like this group of there. 38:57.976 --> 39:06.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, and it like just never came out Oh, they kept delaying it until ringing it and I think it and I was in college with the time it came out Yeah, that's right. 39:07.005 --> 39:09.027 [SPEAKER_02]: Like didn't have I was like didn't have any free time 39:09.408 --> 39:34.886 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it came out and it was it was free to wasn't it it was like a free maybe I'm game I do not remember for life I mean I don't even I don't know what startcraft even is it still start crafty right now like yeah I think it I think it is maybe they have like expect like automatic updates now do updates or something But like what would you even update it was perfect how it was I know I just love this sort of like I don't know I just like it's so simple 39:35.365 --> 39:36.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like chess. 39:36.786 --> 39:37.847 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know. 39:37.947 --> 39:39.008 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm bad at chess. 39:39.048 --> 39:41.329 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm also bad at sarcaf. 39:41.530 --> 39:45.172 [SPEAKER_02]: I really like playing traditional sarcaf to actually isn't very fun when everyone's very good. 39:45.212 --> 39:46.593 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're playing like rank there. 39:46.853 --> 39:47.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 39:47.934 --> 39:48.775 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all custom maps. 39:49.035 --> 39:50.456 [SPEAKER_02]: I played a couple of my friends in. 39:52.740 --> 39:58.085 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like a tower defense ones, the ones where you have to like get from point A to point B and there's a bunch of obstacles. 39:58.205 --> 39:58.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 39:59.086 --> 39:59.427 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:00.007 --> 40:00.748 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, sweaty. 40:00.808 --> 40:01.909 [SPEAKER_02]: Starcraft is horrible. 40:02.269 --> 40:04.832 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember it on the N64 probably not? 40:05.072 --> 40:05.713 [SPEAKER_02]: Barely. 40:05.753 --> 40:05.993 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 40:06.113 --> 40:08.776 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I had, I like played the emulator version. 40:08.796 --> 40:10.197 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, this is a nightmare. 40:10.357 --> 40:10.698 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:10.818 --> 40:12.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, Starcraft on a nightmare is a bad experience. 40:12.920 --> 40:14.021 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you play Starcraft at all, Nigel? 40:15.831 --> 40:32.257 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... now not really what what was your like was it consuls or what in like a little bit of a school i would say mostly console i played uh... diablo two a lot that was like pc no yeah i played i played a mix 40:33.357 --> 40:39.819 [SPEAKER_01]: I probably, yeah, I played it on the computer as all RPG stuff, so I played Diablo 2 as also Guild Wars. 40:39.839 --> 40:40.339 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't it? 40:40.359 --> 40:41.740 [SPEAKER_00]: Diablo? 40:41.760 --> 40:41.980 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 40:42.000 --> 40:46.321 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the idea was supposed to, and then I played Guild Wars, which is really good. 40:47.182 --> 40:56.265 [SPEAKER_01]: And then on the Xbox, I would just play, I played a lot of Halo, and then I would also just, you know, play new games that came out, whatever was fun. 40:57.577 --> 41:00.458 [SPEAKER_02]: It kind of sucks that I didn't really get to play a lot of stuff growing up. 41:00.478 --> 41:03.340 [SPEAKER_02]: It was always at Friends House, which maybe made the experiences more special. 41:03.360 --> 41:15.186 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, yeah, it's, it's a little sad to me that I can't ever have that experience because like even now I could go and like buy the game or emulate it and it but they're all like shit. 41:16.187 --> 41:19.448 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like they're shit now like back then it was amazing. 41:19.528 --> 41:28.951 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I know your imagination was like I remember my friend had this game It was like monster farmer or something like that and you could like mix them on you like breathe the monster Was that a Matt game? 41:29.211 --> 41:30.171 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember that. 41:30.191 --> 41:43.435 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even I think you could like put a different CD in like in the place Yeah, I played that you have yeah, and I remember just like the little snippets that I would like get to sort of like you know like watch my friend playing I was like this is awesome and then I'd be like all right. 41:43.455 --> 41:43.755 [SPEAKER_02]: We got it. 41:43.795 --> 41:44.015 [SPEAKER_02]: God. 41:44.035 --> 41:44.295 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like 41:45.475 --> 41:47.436 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like it it was 2D wasn't it? 41:47.516 --> 41:56.218 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I literally type okay Cannot remember for the life and and and but like I know now if I wouldn't play that I'd be like Mensley disappointed. 41:56.538 --> 42:04.461 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember I did that once I tried to find all the old Matt games that I used to play Just like no, yeah, socks, but no good when you're a kid 42:04.965 --> 42:15.815 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, um, I think the most hours I sunk in just to games would have been like maybe either Starcraft or Frozen Throne, which I still have no idea how I convince my parents to like let me play. 42:15.835 --> 42:18.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that a Warcraft? 42:18.777 --> 42:19.338 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Frozen Throne? 42:19.358 --> 42:20.299 [SPEAKER_02]: Frozen Throne is the expansion. 42:20.359 --> 42:26.364 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, my parents would not meet play Warcraft, because yeah, because probably because the cover was like, and it was a monthly subscription fee. 42:26.584 --> 42:26.904 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's no. 42:29.397 --> 42:30.599 [SPEAKER_00]: No, okay. 42:30.619 --> 42:32.442 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this would have been work. 42:32.642 --> 42:33.043 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. 42:33.283 --> 42:33.904 [SPEAKER_02]: Really work out. 42:34.104 --> 42:39.592 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like for I think like work What was warcraft before world of warcraft? 42:39.652 --> 42:40.374 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like starcraft 42:41.124 --> 42:43.425 [SPEAKER_02]: Was it really yeah, so like workcraft was like starcraft. 42:43.445 --> 42:52.870 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like exactly the same thing just like different mythology and Then there was frozen thrown which was like the expansion to it and it was the exact same thing. 42:52.890 --> 42:56.731 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like battle net It was like custom maps like I to this day. 42:57.292 --> 43:09.017 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I have ever played any part of an official Warcraft pain or like I've literally I do not know anything about like the racers like 43:10.838 --> 43:11.379 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah. 43:11.560 --> 43:12.642 [SPEAKER_02]: Warcraft no idea. 43:13.343 --> 43:16.509 [SPEAKER_02]: Like actually no idea how the normal campaign goes. 43:16.669 --> 43:17.471 [SPEAKER_02]: All custom games. 43:17.771 --> 43:18.312 [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome. 43:18.833 --> 43:23.242 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think I could still enjoy the custom, like a tower defense game, so I think it would still be fun. 43:23.613 --> 43:28.335 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we should, uh, Nigel, maybe you should download Starcraft, like, brood war. 43:28.355 --> 43:35.698 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're free now way, we could totally, there's no fucking way that you cannot set up a local area network. 43:36.198 --> 43:38.499 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I think I think I think it still exists. 43:38.859 --> 43:39.320 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know. 43:39.360 --> 43:40.260 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought by that shut down. 43:40.600 --> 43:44.762 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I think that there's like, you can, I think there's like other servers now. 43:44.982 --> 43:45.662 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here's the problem. 43:46.042 --> 43:48.203 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we can make an extra, that could be an extra. 43:48.443 --> 43:51.745 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, here's like the problem. 43:53.139 --> 43:57.923 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the ecosystem that supports the custom games, I don't know if that exists anymore. 43:58.103 --> 44:00.766 [SPEAKER_02]: And so like, you might need like 10 people to play. 44:01.867 --> 44:02.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. 44:03.320 --> 44:11.228 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you can't play some of the custom games without a full lot of it or they become like kind of sad if you don't have a full hobby. 44:11.248 --> 44:20.917 [SPEAKER_02]: So like yeah, I wonder we could probably set something like do like a safety I bet you a lot of people in safety third game night patron do nerd games. 44:21.778 --> 44:23.640 [SPEAKER_02]: I would be down to do that figure that out. 44:24.120 --> 44:33.991 [SPEAKER_02]: Got to be frozen thrown and I remember this one game and I like I cannot I cannot I don't like maybe Somebody out here is gonna know what you're talking about let me describe it. 44:34.031 --> 44:36.974 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like Fuck, I don't know how to describe it. 44:37.014 --> 44:44.943 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like you had like a hero and you like started the bottom and then the like the mobs would like come down 44:46.898 --> 44:49.740 [SPEAKER_02]: The top or the bottom, it was like a long, like tall map. 44:50.041 --> 44:50.381 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 44:50.421 --> 44:52.863 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was like a, it sounds like legal legends. 44:53.564 --> 44:55.225 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I can't, I literally. 44:55.365 --> 44:57.267 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they had this four starcraft, too. 44:57.307 --> 45:02.931 [SPEAKER_00]: And you would upgrade your character by like, after every wave, you would like teleport to this area of full of upgrades. 45:02.972 --> 45:03.072 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 45:03.292 --> 45:05.333 [SPEAKER_00]: And you was like, walk into, yeah, that one. 45:05.474 --> 45:06.154 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. 45:06.234 --> 45:09.917 [SPEAKER_02]: I have like snippets of, you could like, purchase them or better characters. 45:09.957 --> 45:12.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you could do one of those, like, to like write it hard. 45:12.760 --> 45:15.242 [SPEAKER_02]: If you did not catch up, you were fucked. 45:15.982 --> 45:18.984 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like so you had to like get things. 45:19.424 --> 45:24.107 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you had to do well or like the fashion you fall behind like the more screwed you were. 45:24.307 --> 45:41.637 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and if like somebody got reinforcements to like yeah, like planes like yeah, because like if somebody got really good, then all of a sudden they would start like killing everything and then you would start falling behind and you didn't have money for upgrades and like the further behind you got with upgrades like yeah, oh, you could die to and if you died, you went to a graveyard and then people could like revive you 45:42.317 --> 45:58.680 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, you're yes, I remember that, you could like sit on the sidelines and watch the game and then if somebody you could see like after the round they would teleport to the place where they can buy things and you're like, come on, walk towards the Levi go get the Levi and they wouldn't I would do it because it was nice. 45:58.800 --> 45:59.140 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 46:00.141 --> 46:16.547 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude, like I still remember that vividly because we like never like I don't even know if you could win and I don't think you can Like I played that over and I've already sort of remember like being stuck in lobbies where you just like wouldn't get enough people And they'd be like all right like looks like refresh and you'd leave and rejoin. 46:16.587 --> 46:20.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like finally would star and then like somebody would bail and you're just like 46:21.603 --> 46:23.404 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, good times. 46:23.624 --> 46:24.365 [SPEAKER_02]: I know. 46:24.765 --> 46:31.649 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like nothing better than the days where you could just like veg out on a computer like on a weekend for as long as you can. 46:31.669 --> 46:34.890 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, without any existential, like, you know, yeah, exactly. 46:35.591 --> 46:37.552 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I got to know feeling my gut attention. 46:37.612 --> 46:39.733 [SPEAKER_02]: And it becomes $10 a gallon tomorrow. 46:39.753 --> 46:41.214 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 46:41.614 --> 46:42.575 [SPEAKER_00]: You still game Nigel? 46:44.095 --> 46:45.716 [SPEAKER_01]: Not really. 46:45.896 --> 46:48.398 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been, I kind of spent the last year. 46:50.383 --> 46:57.325 [SPEAKER_01]: Putting way too much effort and trying to finish videos that I was foolish enough to think that I could work and finish my on my own. 46:57.805 --> 47:00.706 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so I guess it's everything. 47:00.746 --> 47:02.006 [SPEAKER_01]: It's everything, man. 47:03.407 --> 47:05.147 [SPEAKER_01]: But I am hoping to game again soon. 47:06.028 --> 47:06.308 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 47:06.708 --> 47:07.568 [SPEAKER_01]: What's your like? 47:08.328 --> 47:10.629 [SPEAKER_02]: I hate to win the game from your childhood. 47:11.575 --> 47:32.665 [SPEAKER_02]: from my childhood you you know what i'm saying you're like what do you call that the of god core memory yeah or something no like so the age of like uh... like i would say ten like ten years old is yeah pretty like a great threshold right like under ten you're like a child over ten you're like starting to become like a youth 47:33.585 --> 47:59.794 [SPEAKER_02]: But you're not anywhere near an adult, yeah, like that's a sort of like your first Like autonomy or or semblance of Agency over like the world like ten years old like you can stay home alone You could like walk to the store or waste your whole summer playing video games online, but it didn't feel like wasting right yeah And you can like you can play like more advanced games like what was that game for you? 48:05.047 --> 48:07.130 [SPEAKER_00]: As a kid, Diablo and Halo. 48:07.471 --> 48:08.492 [SPEAKER_02]: Job and Halo. 48:08.512 --> 48:09.553 [SPEAKER_02]: What did you play before those? 48:09.914 --> 48:12.738 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you get the, wait, did you get the high boost to armor for Halo 3? 48:13.058 --> 48:14.180 [SPEAKER_00]: The fuck is high boost to armor? 48:14.320 --> 48:14.761 [SPEAKER_00]: I did. 48:14.921 --> 48:15.622 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you? 48:15.722 --> 48:16.383 [SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah. 48:16.583 --> 48:17.585 [SPEAKER_01]: Joe, I got everything. 48:17.805 --> 48:19.227 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was, you had to reach level 50. 48:20.888 --> 48:28.651 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the thing that got me the worst in Halo is there was you had to beat to beat the last level. 48:28.751 --> 48:36.774 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm the hardest difficulty, but you had to do it in Blitz some understood all the skulls, the skulls. 48:36.794 --> 48:37.854 [SPEAKER_00]: You had to have the skulls on. 48:37.874 --> 48:38.114 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 48:38.335 --> 48:41.836 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the skulls activated and it had to be done online. 48:42.176 --> 48:44.417 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's some random stipulations, dude. 48:44.957 --> 48:59.873 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I do it four times because literally we I won and then the cut scene glitched and it's like, oh, you just disconnected you're in turn out wasn't it just was like server error a lottery and I had to I had to do it like four times. 49:00.393 --> 49:01.134 [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god. 49:01.314 --> 49:01.775 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 49:01.795 --> 49:04.418 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you remember when you know you have a lot of spare time. 49:04.438 --> 49:07.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like thinking about that now. 49:07.362 --> 49:09.004 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, crazy. 49:09.265 --> 49:12.088 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like I literally have no spare time. 49:13.510 --> 49:14.551 [SPEAKER_01]: And what's crazy is 49:16.053 --> 49:21.675 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't even like nowadays someone would do it because they want to post a YouTube video or the record it. 49:21.715 --> 49:27.498 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I was just doing it so that when I go on my account, I would have the, I think it was like you got a helmet for it. 49:27.598 --> 49:37.242 [SPEAKER_01]: So when you played online, you would, you would have just the nice little, like, uh, is a, maybe it was the blame helmet because that was like the hardest, uh, achievement. 49:37.342 --> 49:37.902 [SPEAKER_00]: I could look at it. 49:37.922 --> 49:38.582 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember. 49:38.882 --> 49:42.244 [SPEAKER_00]: Or I think you only got the flame helmet if you've played with bungee employees. 49:42.744 --> 49:47.825 [SPEAKER_00]: Because they had like blue flame helmets and I think you would get like a orange flame helmet if you played with them. 49:48.185 --> 49:48.765 [SPEAKER_02]: That's cool. 49:48.805 --> 49:50.846 [SPEAKER_02]: I think yeah, like randomly. 49:51.446 --> 49:53.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, sometimes they would just hop in. 49:53.226 --> 49:54.086 [SPEAKER_00]: I played with them once. 49:54.386 --> 49:57.627 [SPEAKER_00]: That's I think in, you know, years of gaming, they were in my, in my lobby. 49:57.667 --> 49:57.827 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 49:57.847 --> 49:58.507 [SPEAKER_02]: That's cool. 50:01.148 --> 50:11.030 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I, if I, I mean, I don't even, I don't even know what, like I'm trying to think if I just had like one day right now to just like not to not do anything in just play a video. 50:11.654 --> 50:32.311 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it would take some like wind in like I'd have to like I'd have to like somehow just like bring myself to accept it I think the last time I played a lot of video games was breath of the wild After our house burned down and I like haven't sort of done anything like that in a long time 50:33.652 --> 50:42.956 [SPEAKER_02]: I played a bit of the Harry Potter game because Chelsea likes Harry Potter, but I want to do like, you know, I don't know, I played a little bit of that sort of TV or something. 50:42.976 --> 50:44.437 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of could have everybody. 50:44.457 --> 50:45.477 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they really don't. 50:45.497 --> 50:47.838 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't really, it's not like Granted out at all. 50:48.358 --> 50:50.159 [SPEAKER_02]: And that makes, that's sort of a bummer. 50:52.140 --> 50:57.866 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was just like, you know, like what if video games, like, yeah, video games and I was like maybe maybe, I don't know which one. 50:57.946 --> 51:00.349 [SPEAKER_02]: And I tried, uh, didn't, didn't work great. 51:00.949 --> 51:07.676 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and so I like spent a little bit of time, but like I'd like really quickly hit this wall of like, this is just a huge fucking waste. 51:08.537 --> 51:11.098 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it wasn't, it wasn't interesting or exciting. 51:11.178 --> 51:15.359 [SPEAKER_02]: You could start to see the repetition of, like, just like the grind. 51:15.379 --> 51:16.479 [SPEAKER_02]: The grind, yeah. 51:16.760 --> 51:21.881 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, like, portal, I think, is like one of the best games ever, because it wasn't a grind. 51:21.921 --> 51:25.422 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like this weird, like, lore exploration, puzzle solving. 51:25.442 --> 51:27.543 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you felt like you were discovering something. 51:28.263 --> 51:32.924 [SPEAKER_02]: And so it was like, so much fun to like go through the problems. 51:32.984 --> 51:36.185 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think half life was kind of like that too, or you're like, 51:38.266 --> 52:03.794 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, and I just don't know like off the top of my head like what even that is like what is the game that like it's sort of I was like I people play like expedition 33 a couple years ago and I'm like I don't know what that is Yeah, like me no I there's so many good games that that aren't like you know triple a blockbuster games That all have really good stories and like adventure and discovery to them that I don't know like just 52:07.935 --> 52:08.596 [SPEAKER_00]: and suck you in. 52:08.656 --> 52:10.537 [SPEAKER_02]: We're like bio-shock, I never put bio-shock. 52:10.798 --> 52:11.659 [SPEAKER_01]: Bio-shock was good. 52:11.679 --> 52:12.359 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't play that either. 52:12.419 --> 52:13.700 [SPEAKER_00]: I played that. 52:13.720 --> 52:17.564 [SPEAKER_01]: But I want to see, I found out what the helmet was. 52:17.604 --> 52:21.527 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the recon helmet in Halo. 52:21.668 --> 52:25.971 [SPEAKER_01]: And I actually, the qualifications just gave me PTSD. 52:26.192 --> 52:27.753 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like your worst, it's worst. 52:27.993 --> 52:29.274 [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, it's worse than what I thought. 52:29.475 --> 52:29.695 [SPEAKER_01]: OK. 52:29.795 --> 52:32.237 [SPEAKER_01]: It's you have to beat the final level in Halo 3. 52:33.378 --> 52:44.527 [SPEAKER_01]: on legendary with online co-op of four people with the iron skull on meaning if anyone dies once you restart the whole game. 52:45.749 --> 52:49.852 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay and you have to every person has to finish it while writing in a ghost. 52:51.436 --> 53:09.509 [SPEAKER_01]: every so you have to make sure that every player that probably wasn't that hard was get a ghost so you there's a whole way to do it like you have to strategically get the vehicles at certain parts of the the map so you all have you're probably like four ghosts they probably blow up like so you have to time it right so you get them before like whatever 53:10.650 --> 53:27.291 [SPEAKER_01]: And he destroys the comments or drives it off a cliff, but it was like if anyone dies, you restart and if you're playing it alone, you're just joining with randoms, so sometimes I just play in like a matchmaking game and you would talk to people and be like, hey man, you want to try to do this and just bunch of randoms would do it. 53:28.132 --> 53:41.556 [SPEAKER_01]: But I had to do it four times because three of the times people just disconnect like I literally was in the cut scene like about to win twice and It just says like you just see goes so and so left the game. 53:41.616 --> 53:45.758 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like oh And then just that's it and then it restarts your game. 53:46.178 --> 53:46.458 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 53:46.478 --> 53:49.419 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that restarts it or someone dies and does something stupid. 53:49.459 --> 53:50.539 [SPEAKER_01]: How long is it actually? 53:51.519 --> 53:56.341 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be days But like each game like how long when you say it research your game like how long is that? 53:57.500 --> 53:59.663 [SPEAKER_01]: How are like 20 or 30 minutes the last map? 53:59.763 --> 54:01.726 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's not too bad, four times. 54:01.766 --> 54:03.989 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but one death and you have four people. 54:04.009 --> 54:07.274 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the space ship, right? 54:07.574 --> 54:12.862 [SPEAKER_00]: If I remember, like the spaceship was falling apart and you had to get out, yeah, or something. 54:14.617 --> 54:17.279 [SPEAKER_02]: What, what is the like the Halo lore? 54:17.319 --> 54:21.882 [SPEAKER_02]: Why I feel like I've watched like some YouTube videos and like I never played Halo because actually wouldn't let me. 54:23.423 --> 54:27.406 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was, cause there's like Earth there in some parts too. 54:27.486 --> 54:31.830 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that I think Earth was destroyed by the time that rings came out. 54:32.090 --> 54:37.854 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then the rings who made it right is there's like some of the four runners made the rings which is like an ancient alien. 54:37.914 --> 54:38.715 [SPEAKER_02]: The Toyota thing. 54:39.235 --> 54:40.636 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, just a bunch of them. 54:40.676 --> 54:43.078 [SPEAKER_02]: Toyota SUV, anthropomorphic. 54:43.662 --> 54:57.665 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the come carries and I think they they the the the car is made the rings to destroy the flood, which was an ancient alien like bio Scourge thing how the rings destroy the flood. 54:57.845 --> 55:03.627 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, because they like lined them up and they turned them into like a giant particle accelerator and then they would just Just enjoy the rings. 55:03.647 --> 55:05.307 [SPEAKER_02]: There was like grass and water and stuff. 55:05.527 --> 55:07.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they're huge. 55:07.328 --> 55:07.628 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 55:07.668 --> 55:08.628 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like some of the biggest 55:15.831 --> 55:18.914 [SPEAKER_00]: because they had to like live on them to build the rings. 55:19.154 --> 55:19.555 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 55:20.055 --> 55:20.956 [SPEAKER_00]: I actually have no idea. 55:22.117 --> 55:26.001 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't actually don't know the deep lore, but I think it's a healing. 55:26.041 --> 55:26.841 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it really is. 55:26.861 --> 55:31.746 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was like sing healing like invaded earth at one point. 55:32.266 --> 55:35.830 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Kevin's got that's more that's more lower than I've ever. 55:36.010 --> 55:38.152 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I never really questioned it. 55:39.473 --> 55:55.716 [SPEAKER_00]: then we want aliens you were fighting those were that those are the same healing they're like this conglomeration of a bunch of different alien races that were led by the arbiter or like the profit or something um he was like like a religious cult why are they so they were trying to take over your 55:56.536 --> 56:13.084 [SPEAKER_00]: But what about the big bad guy then this the scored score the flood the flood so then So eventually they have to the aliens and the people have to start working together to take out the flood Right, and then that's where they like just start discovering the four-runner artifacts Like they didn't even know what their rings were at first. 56:13.104 --> 56:15.144 [SPEAKER_00]: They had to figure out what their rings did. 56:15.405 --> 56:20.327 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that you find out in the video game And I'm probably missing a whole lot here 56:20.967 --> 56:31.574 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, you know, a lot of other weird like, you know, alien religious factions that like continue to try to kill you even when you're you when you are fighting for yeah, both yeah. 56:34.696 --> 56:37.218 [SPEAKER_02]: Why is killing the little alien so much fun. 56:38.081 --> 56:41.325 [SPEAKER_00]: I think even the other aliens enjoy killing the little ones. 56:41.345 --> 56:44.810 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's part of those poor guys. 56:44.850 --> 56:45.390 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting. 56:46.372 --> 56:47.513 [SPEAKER_02]: Why is it so funny? 56:47.553 --> 56:54.201 [SPEAKER_02]: He was the one who was the one who was the one who invented it. 56:54.261 --> 56:55.143 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a long one. 56:56.610 --> 56:57.471 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's meant to be fun. 56:57.651 --> 56:57.911 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 56:57.931 --> 56:58.092 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 56:58.712 --> 56:59.433 [SPEAKER_01]: But do they like it? 56:59.513 --> 57:01.035 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that in a part of it. 57:01.055 --> 57:01.475 [SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't. 57:01.895 --> 57:02.496 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 57:02.516 --> 57:05.799 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, have you ever gotten into like a fight in the Harry Potter game? 57:05.819 --> 57:10.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to go and clear out some band of bad magic people? 57:10.704 --> 57:12.766 [SPEAKER_02]: The like trappers or yeah. 57:12.806 --> 57:13.227 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 57:13.267 --> 57:13.587 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 57:13.707 --> 57:14.648 [SPEAKER_02]: It can be pretty brutal. 57:16.150 --> 57:19.894 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, but like yeah, but like I want to be able to just, you know, 57:20.839 --> 57:29.385 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the whack anything I know, but it does feel funny like your Harry Potter or whoever you are you just like go around and kill like Yeah, you want the Andres playing the game. 57:29.405 --> 57:38.110 [SPEAKER_02]: She must have filled like 500 people right They want they don't show that in the movies listen you gotta get out of your system in video games Otherwise it comes on real life. 57:38.170 --> 57:38.470 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 57:38.811 --> 57:39.031 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 57:40.231 --> 57:43.033 [SPEAKER_02]: So are there any mods for that game? 57:43.113 --> 57:45.335 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I bet there are interesting 57:46.222 --> 57:48.464 [SPEAKER_00]: Only on Steam though, and that's why people don't play on none. 57:48.564 --> 57:49.685 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it consoles anymore. 57:49.705 --> 57:50.666 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 57:51.006 --> 57:51.226 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 57:51.246 --> 57:52.547 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get that idea. 57:53.128 --> 57:54.088 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do some research. 57:54.188 --> 57:55.309 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm out to find some time. 57:55.650 --> 57:56.550 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 57:57.031 --> 57:57.291 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 57:57.611 --> 57:59.753 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go over to the Patreon extra right now. 58:00.393 --> 58:02.835 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to everybody who supports us on Patreon. 58:02.855 --> 58:06.258 [SPEAKER_02]: What you get on Patreon is no ads on the podcast. 58:06.738 --> 58:08.960 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't get an RSS feed because I don't know what that is. 58:09.440 --> 58:10.882 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we should figure that out. 58:11.742 --> 58:12.323 [SPEAKER_02]: a big good idea. 58:12.363 --> 58:16.085 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe during the safety third podcast we figure out an RSS speed. 58:16.105 --> 58:18.507 [SPEAKER_02]: Like everyone has been asking for an RSS speed now. 58:18.527 --> 58:20.728 [SPEAKER_02]: I do not know what an RSS speed is. 58:20.828 --> 58:21.548 [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea. 58:21.789 --> 58:25.731 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's it's existed since I've been on the internet and I still have no idea what is it. 58:25.951 --> 58:29.854 [SPEAKER_01]: It's also it's probably one simple search away. 58:29.874 --> 58:32.836 [SPEAKER_01]: You can probably fit what is RSS stand for no idea. 58:33.736 --> 58:34.837 [SPEAKER_01]: But we can really 58:41.310 --> 58:49.039 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I people been asking that and I'm like real-time streaming service to I'm a two afraid You want to hit my leg my muscle like this. 58:49.419 --> 58:50.520 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, all the way down. 58:50.640 --> 58:54.405 [SPEAKER_01]: That's weird What does that mean do we want to know what RSS sense work? 58:54.465 --> 58:58.609 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I look it up But it's RSS feed. 58:58.629 --> 59:01.933 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's try one more time Kevin's real time is good, maybe 59:03.132 --> 59:03.672 [SPEAKER_02]: real time. 59:04.733 --> 59:05.854 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I looked it up. 59:05.874 --> 59:07.394 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, I haven't looked it up. 59:07.755 --> 59:08.015 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at it. 59:08.035 --> 59:09.756 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we got to get some better guesses first. 59:10.296 --> 59:17.040 [SPEAKER_02]: A really simple service real time stream service. 59:19.201 --> 59:22.143 [SPEAKER_00]: Real tech streaming system. 59:22.543 --> 59:22.823 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 59:23.383 --> 59:24.664 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, is it like a proprietary? 59:24.764 --> 59:25.564 [SPEAKER_00]: I have not maybe. 59:25.684 --> 59:25.925 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 59:25.945 --> 59:26.125 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. 59:26.265 --> 59:26.805 [SPEAKER_00]: Through that one out. 59:26.825 --> 59:27.465 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a case. 59:27.485 --> 59:28.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Do we get close? 59:32.700 --> 59:33.000 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 59:33.901 --> 59:36.162 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, that's actually so funny. 59:36.182 --> 59:38.322 [SPEAKER_01]: What did you say it was, Will? 59:38.523 --> 59:39.343 [SPEAKER_02]: Real time. 59:40.183 --> 59:41.604 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you said something else before that. 59:42.524 --> 59:46.326 [SPEAKER_02]: Really stupid. 59:47.006 --> 59:50.508 [SPEAKER_01]: So you might be shocked, but the art is really. 59:51.028 --> 59:51.848 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 59:53.849 --> 59:54.690 [SPEAKER_01]: Simple. 59:55.710 --> 59:57.131 [SPEAKER_01]: Simple is the second one. 59:57.231 --> 59:58.031 [SPEAKER_01]: No shit. 59:58.231 --> 59:59.512 [SPEAKER_01]: Really simple stream. 01:00:00.692 --> 01:00:02.574 [SPEAKER_01]: Really simple syndication. 01:00:03.214 --> 01:00:05.036 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, syndication. 01:00:05.056 --> 01:00:08.258 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I can't believe it's actually really simple. 01:00:08.278 --> 01:00:10.060 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're saying that you're like, I don't know. 01:00:10.560 --> 01:00:11.121 [SPEAKER_01]: Really. 01:00:11.341 --> 01:00:11.961 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit. 01:00:12.101 --> 01:00:14.664 [SPEAKER_01]: Simps to so cold, really simple. 01:00:15.024 --> 01:00:16.545 [SPEAKER_02]: Rats squirrel salad. 01:00:16.565 --> 01:00:29.776 [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 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