WEBVTT 00:03.945 --> 00:06.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Let the gay off me for a gay off podcast. 00:07.327 --> 00:18.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Jay Jerdin makes his grand return to that's a gay ass podcast, Jay, do you know that you were the ninth ever guest of this podcast and now we're hundreds of episodes in? 00:18.620 --> 00:19.621 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew I was early. 00:19.641 --> 00:26.508 [SPEAKER_00]: I was here before a lot of people before a lot of people showed nip before a lot of people showed pit. 00:27.168 --> 00:38.079 [SPEAKER_00]: I was talking about being a horror with you Eric William some happy to be one of the early supporters when the early guest and you know what you're doing a great thing. 00:38.988 --> 00:48.018 [SPEAKER_01]: J. Jordan and you're doing a great thing for being on foul and 15 times for spreading the bisexual gospel for being hot as hell and getting a haircut right before this. 00:48.799 --> 00:55.507 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the podcast is hit just around 300 episodes and your episode went up in March of 2021. 00:55.527 --> 00:56.027 [SPEAKER_01]: So we got really. 00:58.430 --> 01:13.613 [SPEAKER_01]: A hard-hitting question to start off with is, if we fast-forward to the present, we're recording this on September 30th, the last day of Bivisibility Month, Jay Chardonnay, what is something you have done to affirm your bisexuality, lately? 01:14.131 --> 01:27.162 [SPEAKER_00]: lately and by lately, I mean two days ago on threads, yes, threads, I said threads needs less AI and more titties and boy did people show titties. 01:27.542 --> 01:35.909 [SPEAKER_00]: There were cisgender titties, there were trans titties, maybe some non-binary titties, boy titties, girl titties, they them titties. 01:36.169 --> 01:38.551 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to waste water to see naked people. 01:38.631 --> 01:40.453 [SPEAKER_00]: They're naked people who will show you right now. 01:41.280 --> 01:45.583 [SPEAKER_01]: And thank you so much for dropping they them videos this early in this recording. 01:45.683 --> 01:49.746 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really important for us to show love to all forms of tit. 01:49.806 --> 01:51.227 [SPEAKER_01]: You know I am a huge supporter. 01:51.628 --> 01:51.988 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine. 01:52.028 --> 01:52.408 [SPEAKER_01]: I did. 01:53.990 --> 02:00.074 [SPEAKER_01]: I wrote down in my notes about your take on AI porn because I, too, hope that it goes away. 02:00.574 --> 02:05.978 [SPEAKER_01]: But what's funny is that when you did the podcast last, I was listening to our episode. 02:06.058 --> 02:07.859 [SPEAKER_01]: It is such a time capsule. 02:08.039 --> 02:10.360 [SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about something called Clubhouse. 02:10.380 --> 02:12.081 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you remember what Clubhouse? 02:12.142 --> 02:12.682 [SPEAKER_01]: Clubhouse. 02:12.722 --> 02:13.282 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 02:13.562 --> 02:14.943 [SPEAKER_01]: Last ever about four minutes. 02:15.264 --> 02:22.168 [SPEAKER_01]: So do you think that AI porn will go with the same route as Clubhouse where it's going to be something of fun years that we forgot happened? 02:22.683 --> 02:33.107 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that now people will start to realize that all of the things we can do with technology, great. 02:33.307 --> 02:37.569 [SPEAKER_00]: I love being able to say, hey Google, look up this thing for me. 02:37.709 --> 02:40.590 [SPEAKER_00]: I love being able to say, put this in my phone, Siri. 02:40.910 --> 02:41.670 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine. 02:41.890 --> 02:45.952 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily want to pay an AI generative. 02:47.007 --> 02:53.348 [SPEAKER_00]: unit to create a poster when I can pay a really cool artist to make a poster for me. 02:54.329 --> 03:02.510 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that some people think, oh, you just all anti-AI, I'm not anti-AI because I talk to Siri. 03:02.590 --> 03:04.331 [SPEAKER_00]: I talk to Google, I get it. 03:04.951 --> 03:10.192 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want you outsourcing things that actual humans can do, like show me their insights. 03:10.907 --> 03:14.269 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and we love to see real human insides. 03:14.309 --> 03:15.410 [SPEAKER_01]: And I've always of that. 03:15.450 --> 03:16.830 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to look in. 03:18.611 --> 03:26.075 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I'm worried to ask this question because AI doesn't actually come up that much on that's a gay ass podcast, but I am glad we're having this conversation. 03:26.095 --> 03:33.900 [SPEAKER_01]: Because listen, do I vehemently disagree with AI porn with AI graphic design with creating art VA? 03:34.040 --> 03:35.060 [SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely do. 03:35.160 --> 03:36.481 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to tell you something right now, 03:38.442 --> 03:47.287 [SPEAKER_01]: That my ADHD brain loves to go to an AI whatever and say, hey, I've got 12 things to do on my to-do list Can you help me attack them? 03:47.687 --> 03:49.628 [SPEAKER_01]: Jay Jordan, do you support me as an AI? 03:49.928 --> 03:50.989 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not mad at that. 03:51.189 --> 03:52.529 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not mad at that. 03:52.910 --> 03:55.151 [SPEAKER_00]: I use predictive text sometimes. 03:55.191 --> 03:57.472 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's Proto AI. 03:57.772 --> 04:04.876 [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen people be like if I'm sitting in the email and it says bad if I type best Common and it completes wishes for me. 04:05.436 --> 04:06.837 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not mad at that 04:07.397 --> 04:09.819 [SPEAKER_00]: There is no world where I mad at that. 04:09.899 --> 04:18.685 [SPEAKER_00]: We kind of have to get away from that very kind of disingenuous you and AI and get to some of the specifics that I think piss people off. 04:19.085 --> 04:22.167 [SPEAKER_00]: What yes, but AI is a good comedian friend of mine. 04:22.187 --> 04:23.308 [SPEAKER_00]: A personal thing is very funny. 04:23.328 --> 04:25.610 [SPEAKER_00]: Olivia Carter just had one of her jokes stolen. 04:25.630 --> 04:28.071 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I saw that soon by an AI. 04:29.152 --> 04:43.575 [SPEAKER_00]: a good amount of malagamation of things online and then it turned it into a woman doing stand up in a fake theater in Appleisure telling the joke that Olivia told on the tonight show to tie it all back to all of what we were discussing earlier. 04:43.815 --> 04:44.115 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:44.135 --> 04:44.815 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's that. 04:44.955 --> 04:46.135 [SPEAKER_00]: That is terrible. 04:46.155 --> 04:47.115 [SPEAKER_00]: That is soulless. 04:47.295 --> 04:48.716 [SPEAKER_00]: It is disgusting. 04:49.116 --> 04:49.796 [SPEAKER_00]: It's stupid. 04:50.236 --> 04:55.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Some people watching that think it's real and that I think is even more devastating because it is worse. 04:56.456 --> 05:10.805 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like there's videos right now that are going around where you obviously know that they're AI, but I think even John Marko might have said this recently that the reason why it's so difficult to live right now is because gone are the days where you can watch something and know it's real. 05:11.285 --> 05:17.769 [SPEAKER_01]: Every single thing that we are watching now, we have to take the first step to say, am I watching something that was really filmed? 05:17.869 --> 05:20.031 [SPEAKER_01]: Am I watching something that are real human being did? 05:20.171 --> 05:22.772 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead of being like, I'm having it a human experience. 05:22.832 --> 05:23.012 [SPEAKER_01]: I think 05:24.113 --> 05:28.496 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to really go to the heart of why I'm bringing it up on this podcast. 05:28.516 --> 05:29.697 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what they're doing now? 05:30.137 --> 05:31.318 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's all related. 05:31.338 --> 05:32.119 [SPEAKER_00]: This is all connected. 05:32.199 --> 05:36.022 [SPEAKER_00]: Now they're taking images of sexy, hunky men. 05:36.322 --> 05:40.785 [SPEAKER_00]: They're taking images of gay men, already on the beach, men who already look great. 05:41.085 --> 05:50.952 [SPEAKER_00]: And people are filtering them through a tiny AI filter that gives them less body fat, that gives them more muscles on celebrities, on pictures we've already seen. 05:50.972 --> 05:52.153 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're coming. 05:52.613 --> 05:54.654 [SPEAKER_00]: Andy Cohen, why are we doing this? 05:54.814 --> 05:55.694 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't need this. 05:55.774 --> 06:02.697 [SPEAKER_00]: If we know what it is, it's an account that just kind of wants traffic and that wants volatility and trying online. 06:02.737 --> 06:09.240 [SPEAKER_00]: So it wants people to say, oh, this person will talk or it wants people to fight in the comments section and say, this is fake because it just drives traffic to the site. 06:09.260 --> 06:13.062 [SPEAKER_00]: And then some people accidentally click on the ad that's associated with that account. 06:13.182 --> 06:14.462 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so evil. 06:14.822 --> 06:15.823 [SPEAKER_00]: It's horrible. 06:16.703 --> 06:38.736 [SPEAKER_01]: and if we made now triple down on this when we were kids growing up our body this morphia was coming from real people in real ass now we have to deal with robots telling us so we have too much body fat it's so fucked up no the my body this morphia is supposed to come from who Chris Evans hello America when he comes up and his titties are the juiciest biggest titties 06:40.039 --> 06:40.439 [SPEAKER_00]: coming up. 06:40.720 --> 06:42.701 [SPEAKER_00]: We can't do that. 06:43.322 --> 06:58.094 [SPEAKER_01]: No, and A. I could not put whip cream on his hairy titties with two cherries, banana coming out of his ass and none of the team movie A. I could never move him up with the watch that and comedy central late at night standing up being like, I'm warning for this. 06:58.275 --> 07:00.436 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to I don't know why. 07:00.456 --> 07:01.898 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it is. 07:02.398 --> 07:22.796 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm honey for you remember when you used to be a little queer boy and you to watch a movie and you'd see a butt it's you know Ryan Philippi there are a bunch of different butts throughout kind of late 90s early 2000s movie history male but specifically where you'd be like why why is this in here is this for me I do love this 07:24.025 --> 07:27.408 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you have to look around and make sure nobody is watching your eyes stare at that. 07:27.428 --> 07:33.274 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, um, there, another movie from this era that for whatever reason made me Hornie road trip. 07:33.735 --> 07:35.336 [SPEAKER_00]: There is no. 07:36.037 --> 07:36.277 [SPEAKER_00]: Why? 07:36.858 --> 07:45.786 [SPEAKER_00]: Because the same reason American pie made me hornie as a queer person whenever men and whenever like you're a little queer boy, you start to see. 07:46.767 --> 07:55.957 [SPEAKER_00]: not just the all your friends are like, oh, uh, funny, a sex comedy, you as a little queer closet boy like kind of hot too, right well, great. 07:56.017 --> 07:56.498 [SPEAKER_01]: All agree. 07:56.878 --> 07:58.720 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's also. 07:59.541 --> 08:07.230 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of boys sort of in a teamwork scenario where that already feels sort of homerotic and then if I may mention, 08:07.750 --> 08:24.519 [SPEAKER_01]: There's this, I, I all respect to this actor, but he's like, of the time he looks like like he was always smoking weed, skinny, sort of like, gone cheek and there's one plot point where he like picks up this like big black woman who has a thing like the cheetah panties, the cheetah panties exactly. 08:24.919 --> 08:33.363 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know why, but something about that Twinkie straight man fucking her also made me turned on because I, you know, it's, it taught me anything was possible. 08:33.383 --> 08:34.764 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess ain't necessarily. 08:35.144 --> 08:48.293 [SPEAKER_00]: It made you realize it like bigger bodies are sexy, different bodies get together, they're fun and social taboo, they're fun and some very expectations of sexualities and sexual desires. 08:48.353 --> 08:51.735 [SPEAKER_00]: There are all these things that we can't even articulate growing up. 08:52.216 --> 08:56.078 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw the substance and I loved the substance. 08:56.118 --> 08:56.739 [SPEAKER_00]: I was also like, 08:57.299 --> 08:58.840 [SPEAKER_00]: I had all these different feelings about it. 08:58.860 --> 09:19.398 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big body hard guy and they're really parts of it that were also funny, but one of the big takeaways from the substance for me was that it was the first time I don't sense I've noticed that we saw like a hairy guy's butt featured prominently in a movie and I was like, that guy's butt was hairy, more hairy than you ever see in a movie. 09:20.850 --> 09:27.072 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, this is this is the right place to bring up Harry, but you know what I mean, but some people were like, oh, that's that's crazy. 09:27.092 --> 09:29.133 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, that's that's good. 09:29.673 --> 09:45.718 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's not only good, but it's you know, we can talk about how AI is fucking things up, but we can also talk about the wins and the wins are Harry, but in the substance there was even the reason why I know that is a big deal is because years ago, one of the Jonas brothers, I'm going to say Nick. 09:46.318 --> 10:04.286 [SPEAKER_01]: had a lower back body, a lower back hair on some sort of magazine photo spread and it was such a big deal that he didn't like wax his lower back that like like I don't know the sort of like happy trail for but he was redoing the marquee mark spread he was wearing 10:05.146 --> 10:24.818 [SPEAKER_00]: underwear, but it was low slung enough and because of the lighting, you can see that you have like a couple of toughs right before he had the you just grab the perfect like the the posterior happy trail is for the absolute anterior one and we are so grateful that happy trails and hairy butts are being celebrated on the front and the back, but 10:25.278 --> 10:48.953 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also happy to be able to celebrate Jay Jordan's return with a podcast question that is advanced take from the first time you did this we asked whose fault is it that your buy but I want to ask Jay Jordan either who was your first buy or who was your first gay guy the first time you saw somebody either in person or on a screen and you said that one who was who 10:49.733 --> 10:57.482 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the first gay guy that I remember going what's up with that gay guy was in the gay guy. 10:57.822 --> 11:06.472 [SPEAKER_00]: It was Paul Rudd in the object of my affection that used to play on ABC family, Fox family, then free form. 11:07.353 --> 11:17.220 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a gay person who was best friends with Jennifer Aniston in this movie where they were like kind of like a It was a pretty willing grace for me. 11:17.741 --> 11:29.489 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a movie on ABC family or Fox family and I would Watch it because Paul read his playing a gay guy and he plays such a good gay guy. 11:29.669 --> 11:32.591 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like this he was he was so 11:33.842 --> 11:45.276 [SPEAKER_00]: cute but also so different than any other depiction of a gay guy ever seen because he was like kind of he had just got broken up with, he was kind of sad, like Jennifer and his team was also in love with him. 11:45.536 --> 11:48.920 [SPEAKER_00]: So there was this sort of bye nature to their relationship. 11:49.180 --> 11:49.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:49.901 --> 11:53.202 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was one where specifically member going, oh my goodness. 11:53.462 --> 12:00.724 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, at that time, when I went to my friends, who had kind of expensive cable, I think, maybe there's a couple of years after that. 12:00.944 --> 12:07.846 [SPEAKER_00]: The cast of Noah's arc, like, it was just like a bunch of sexy gay black man, but they weren't being made fun of. 12:07.926 --> 12:10.487 [SPEAKER_00]: It was their show, so they weren't the joke, so I was like, what is? 12:11.167 --> 12:11.827 [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on? 12:11.967 --> 12:13.268 [SPEAKER_00]: What's happening here with it? 12:13.528 --> 12:16.530 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're also witnessing this in the south. 12:16.690 --> 12:18.330 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a Mississippi. 12:18.430 --> 12:20.591 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is fraught with tension. 12:20.651 --> 12:28.855 [SPEAKER_01]: I also, I just need to interrupt to give you a big thanks for the object of my affection drop because I am ashamed to admit. 12:28.955 --> 12:30.616 [SPEAKER_01]: I did not know this movie existed. 12:30.736 --> 12:34.318 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going, it seems like it was made for my gay ass. 12:34.658 --> 12:38.640 [SPEAKER_01]: If only because the reason it was written by Wendy Wasserstin, 12:39.040 --> 12:58.056 [SPEAKER_01]: who a famous playwright who for my gay theater girl is out there wrote the Heidi Chronicles and wrote uncommon women and others she was written many of very famous play and yet made Paul Rudd gay shout out yeah and this was like I mean this was uh 12:59.257 --> 13:00.639 [SPEAKER_00]: Paul Red is handsome. 13:00.699 --> 13:01.500 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a vampire. 13:01.540 --> 13:02.461 [SPEAKER_00]: He's well preserved. 13:02.501 --> 13:03.462 [SPEAKER_00]: He's done everything. 13:03.563 --> 13:05.545 [SPEAKER_00]: He's done if he's having work done. 13:05.585 --> 13:06.807 [SPEAKER_00]: He's doing it in such a way. 13:06.827 --> 13:12.494 [SPEAKER_00]: You will never know Paul Red in that movie with such a gay little cutie pie. 13:12.574 --> 13:15.918 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there were like other queer men growing up, but 13:16.499 --> 13:29.450 [SPEAKER_00]: like who I would see like we had we had like a couple of guys in my high school who people called gay and they weren't gay they were just so pretty that boys didn't know how to negotiate the fact with 13:30.432 --> 13:41.265 [SPEAKER_00]: These, these like juniors and seniors that were like, they were pretty, they were 17 year old guys and we were like 13 and like the younger kids big with that guy's gay and be like, no, you can just say he's hot. 13:41.565 --> 13:44.649 [SPEAKER_00]: You could just say he's hot because I'm interesting. 13:45.089 --> 13:45.390 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 13:45.430 --> 13:48.514 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a guy once who came into my high school, he treasure from a different school. 13:49.054 --> 14:09.391 [SPEAKER_00]: and it was before I was out but I remember being like we should all ask him like what his old school was like where he's from we should be really nice to him and people were like why would be nice to him and then my head was like because he's cute but what I told him I said she would be nice to people who come to our school you guys when we have a little school spirit I was like I tree was like yeah what's going on with this guy he's doing a different 14:10.270 --> 14:16.257 [SPEAKER_01]: No, see us, young queer people love to do a monologue of self-importance when really underneath it. 14:16.297 --> 14:18.680 [SPEAKER_01]: We just want to talk to the hot guy. 14:19.220 --> 14:27.870 [SPEAKER_01]: The amount of times I would try to be a friendly guy to a hot jog was just so transparent. 14:28.210 --> 14:28.991 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think, um, 14:29.712 --> 14:36.396 [SPEAKER_01]: Over on the subject side of this, I do want to hear about if you were getting down in Mississippi, if you were having any gay experiences. 14:36.496 --> 14:43.220 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll drop the lower for your first gay moments, but also your current, what makes you squirt currently. 14:44.040 --> 14:53.686 [SPEAKER_01]: But since you do love to give a hot take and we were talking about Paul Rudd as a straight, gorgeous man, I want to ask a question that is about another straight man. 14:54.066 --> 14:57.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Feiss recently said he wants to play Mary Todd Lincoln in 14:58.889 --> 15:02.814 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Jay Jordan, you have gone on record and saying you like to argue. 15:03.255 --> 15:05.117 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's have an argument now. 15:05.137 --> 15:07.961 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a straight man be able to play Mary. 15:08.241 --> 15:09.743 [SPEAKER_01]: You take a stance and I'll argue it. 15:11.826 --> 15:13.287 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a couple of rules. 15:13.947 --> 15:20.770 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a couple of audition requirements for cis straight men being able to play Mary Tile Lincoln in Omery. 15:21.091 --> 15:24.852 [SPEAKER_00]: So I will argue in favor of it and you can argue against. 15:25.313 --> 15:29.555 [SPEAKER_00]: Great, you're argument, you start because I think more people will agree with you. 15:30.335 --> 15:42.399 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so listen, Jay-Jord, and you're saying that cis-strait men should be able to play Mary Todd Lincoln, a play written by Cole a school that was literally built upon the ideas that queer culture is radical. 15:42.479 --> 15:55.843 [SPEAKER_01]: And if a non-queer person or even a non-woman who has been other than treated like a lower class, if that person is not playing Mary, then a defecing tire purpose of that play, why would we let a cis-strait man play a role 15:57.223 --> 16:03.845 [SPEAKER_01]: basically built into the idea that we are not treated as a part of the majority or people who deserve respect. 16:04.105 --> 16:05.106 [SPEAKER_01]: Jay, what do you say? 16:05.366 --> 16:14.209 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the one way we can make sure that they understand just how important the task they are undertaking is as if they give Eric Williams head first. 16:14.729 --> 16:20.351 [SPEAKER_00]: If they give Eric Williams head first, then they can play Mary Todd Lincoln. 16:20.971 --> 16:24.312 [SPEAKER_00]: I think if A Blinken gets shot in the back of 16:27.292 --> 16:35.277 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what we can do to make sure they understand just how important queer roles are. 16:36.157 --> 16:47.544 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's really hard for me to come back from that, because I can't have disagree at all with the need to serve in head from a man with the bone structure of Mike Fise. 16:48.064 --> 16:52.167 [SPEAKER_01]: In his little panties too, from his little, in his little, in his little, in his little, 16:53.182 --> 17:18.608 [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, did you know, did you know that not only did my advice to challengers, but he was in the broke back mountain like on stage play opera often there's a okay there's a very specific type of straight sis male sometimes dancer usually just like actor with the capital A brain where it's not just that they want like meaty roles they want to say 17:19.448 --> 17:26.093 [SPEAKER_00]: the way I can get these gay thoughts out is I got to do something gay. 17:26.373 --> 17:27.754 [SPEAKER_00]: And it can't just be in private. 17:28.135 --> 17:29.816 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to do it on stage. 17:29.916 --> 17:31.377 [SPEAKER_00]: There's got to be blocking. 17:31.677 --> 17:34.219 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to receive a note on the way I bought them. 17:34.540 --> 17:35.761 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to do it. 17:36.001 --> 17:36.781 [SPEAKER_00]: It's listen. 17:36.881 --> 17:37.442 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to bring it. 17:37.502 --> 17:39.123 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say his name because we've said it once. 17:39.644 --> 17:41.705 [SPEAKER_00]: It's why J. Marco loves falsettos. 17:41.925 --> 17:45.228 [SPEAKER_00]: J. Marco is the only straight man I know who loves falsettos. 17:45.248 --> 17:45.388 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't 17:45.528 --> 17:47.208 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you care so much about this? 17:47.468 --> 17:49.229 [SPEAKER_00]: It's such a specific gay show. 17:49.469 --> 17:50.369 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just a gay show. 17:50.429 --> 17:51.449 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an age show. 17:51.749 --> 17:54.029 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a rapist who loves falsetto. 17:54.670 --> 18:01.471 [SPEAKER_01]: It does shock me that John Marco chooses that as a William Finn musical is one of his favorites. 18:01.491 --> 18:10.352 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think you're making a point that all straight men who go into theater or capital A acting, they are queer whether they are fucking women and the real lives are not. 18:10.512 --> 18:11.272 [SPEAKER_00]: And you wanna know why? 18:11.532 --> 18:13.593 [SPEAKER_00]: Because every man with a blue collar job 18:15.895 --> 18:24.779 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's, you know what, Marco did come on this podcast and did say that he was accused of being gay in high school, which sort of means that he did deal with homophobia as well. 18:25.139 --> 18:43.808 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know what, I salute the straight men for even wanting to play Mary is actually maybe in a way, now I'm arguing your side, maybe in a way it is a compliment and maybe it is the assimilation of queerness in mainstream society that might be for the greater good. 18:44.188 --> 18:45.429 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, everybody in the comments. 18:45.529 --> 18:46.270 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you mad at me? 18:46.370 --> 18:47.271 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you mad at Jay? 18:47.511 --> 18:48.452 [SPEAKER_01]: What are their straight men? 18:48.472 --> 18:50.754 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think could play or should never play Mary? 18:51.074 --> 18:55.958 [SPEAKER_00]: Let us know what you know who could play Mary in a couple of and a couple of cycles. 18:56.458 --> 18:58.180 [SPEAKER_00]: Get Eric Stone Street in that. 19:00.241 --> 19:03.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Get Eric Stone Street in them, Bradda, as curls. 19:03.824 --> 19:04.565 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd watch it. 19:05.226 --> 19:06.006 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd watch it. 19:06.747 --> 19:07.748 [SPEAKER_00]: I would watch it. 19:10.365 --> 19:12.106 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think I wouldn't fired. 19:12.986 --> 19:16.508 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's in, but can it be a really limited run, Jake? 19:16.528 --> 19:17.629 [SPEAKER_01]: Can it be like a week or two? 19:17.729 --> 19:18.449 [SPEAKER_00]: Two days. 19:20.790 --> 19:23.872 [SPEAKER_01]: A strictly limited from from November fourth to six. 19:24.572 --> 19:28.934 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's how you know that Mary is a dream gay role. 19:28.954 --> 19:30.535 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, guys, go, can I go for a little bit? 19:31.055 --> 19:31.956 [SPEAKER_00]: I got something. 19:32.596 --> 19:32.956 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 19:33.016 --> 19:34.017 [SPEAKER_01]: It's an 85 minute play. 19:34.317 --> 19:36.378 [SPEAKER_01]: They can memorize those lines for two shows. 19:36.898 --> 19:37.939 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fine. 19:38.039 --> 19:43.882 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, Eric Stone Street, you've got your next gay role, and that is Mary Todd Lincoln. 19:44.002 --> 19:44.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 19:44.362 --> 19:46.363 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so you've put on threads. 19:46.683 --> 19:48.664 [SPEAKER_01]: My husband caught me masturbating again. 19:49.025 --> 19:52.186 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we call it when I look at my standup videos for clips. 19:52.587 --> 19:52.747 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 19:52.787 --> 19:56.889 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I want to ask you, Matt and I have a couple of therapists who says, we are in a 19:59.130 --> 20:02.079 [SPEAKER_01]: How does your husband Garrison deal with your need for attention? 20:02.279 --> 20:04.064 [SPEAKER_01]: Or I'm so sorry, your stand-up comedy? 20:05.773 --> 20:09.495 [SPEAKER_00]: He begrudgingly understands that stand up. 20:10.215 --> 20:19.540 [SPEAKER_00]: She is, I really think stand up is a, is, I think stand up is not just part of our relationship, but now stand up. 20:20.140 --> 20:22.741 [SPEAKER_00]: It kind of moves in between us and stand up. 20:23.402 --> 20:28.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Material will come from me, filter through him and then go back out to the public. 20:28.564 --> 20:30.765 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's material where I say, I'm gonna say this. 20:30.905 --> 20:32.106 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the best examples, 20:35.250 --> 20:56.948 [SPEAKER_00]: I just very sensitive to his response to it when the jokes in my special, I was talking about my husband's, uh, his gender identity and so during the pandemic, my husband, he played a little bit with like he-they pronouns and he just figured out where he was in the gender spectrum and we were talking about like not everyone does boy the same, my boy is different than his boy and it's different than everyone else's. 20:57.268 --> 21:25.223 [SPEAKER_00]: And so around that time I wrote a joke and the joke was funny, but also was kind of putting him in the spotlight in a way that I wanted to be respectful of so the joke was My husband recently came out to me as a little bit non-binary that means he usually feels like a boy unless there's a bug in the house and that is one of those things where I love letting people know that I'm talking about it, but also I did ask his permission. 21:26.785 --> 21:40.132 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think what's helpful probably for that joke too is that it's a really fucking funny joke and it would be it would be one thing if you were like, hey, can I do this sort of like half baked joke that's making fun of you, but no, it's like That's why you're such a good joke writer. 21:40.152 --> 21:49.557 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's because it's very clear what your intent is, but you're also a good partner to ask him because I'm if I'm being honest, I think Matt and I still deal with 21:50.137 --> 21:57.361 [SPEAKER_01]: the presence of my work in our lives because we have to be obsessive about it in order to be successful. 21:57.641 --> 21:57.941 [SPEAKER_01]: I think. 21:58.382 --> 22:09.127 [SPEAKER_00]: And you also really have to figure out how to both paint with a personal and specific brush, but also one that is comfortable. 22:10.148 --> 22:19.810 [SPEAKER_00]: for them, like I have a shout out to the next thing coming out, I have a company central set that's coming out now, where I do talk about my husband's genitals a bit. 22:20.150 --> 22:22.351 [SPEAKER_00]: And in a very positive way, it's great. 22:22.471 --> 22:25.232 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm basically talking about how big it is. 22:25.632 --> 22:30.273 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're, and they're going to people in the comment section who are going to be like, let me see it. 22:30.333 --> 22:33.293 [SPEAKER_00]: Or they're going to be people who go true, I remember. 22:33.774 --> 22:36.854 [SPEAKER_00]: But there are, there are those elements 22:41.056 --> 22:42.478 [SPEAKER_00]: I told him I was going to say it. 22:42.878 --> 22:44.140 [SPEAKER_00]: I asked him if I could do it. 22:44.500 --> 22:49.526 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, yes, part of it is like, you know, in a very ego centric way. 22:49.546 --> 22:51.629 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you want to all these people must be big. 22:52.350 --> 22:53.571 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no. 22:54.632 --> 22:58.537 [SPEAKER_00]: But I was trying to like, I'm trying to flip a couple of things with, um, 22:59.845 --> 23:06.929 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, you know how a lot of times I stand up and it sounds so fucking like old, but it's still the case. 23:07.370 --> 23:10.792 [SPEAKER_00]: So much of stand up is like dicks or grows. 23:12.308 --> 23:35.141 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I know we live in a patriarchal, we live in a patriarchal, phadocentric world, and so for a woman to say she doesn't like Dix on stage is is a bit, it's still radical, because it's a woman having an opinion on the male body and things are being subverted, but there is also a level of kind of casual homophobia if every Dix is gross, because like, I don't think every Dix grows. 23:35.321 --> 23:38.243 [SPEAKER_00]: I've tasted a lot of them, so I'm tasting that some of them are gross. 23:38.943 --> 23:44.484 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them are, you know, and when they're gross, they happen to shower real quick, happen to shower real quick for me. 23:45.465 --> 23:49.706 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, the whole, the smell and taste is a whole other conversation. 23:49.726 --> 23:50.146 [SPEAKER_01]: That's cool. 23:50.186 --> 23:53.607 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you go, woo, onions. 23:54.167 --> 23:55.167 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you go, wait a second. 23:55.247 --> 23:57.668 [SPEAKER_00]: Woo! 23:58.208 --> 23:59.148 [SPEAKER_00]: You ran over here. 23:59.168 --> 23:59.968 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 24:05.907 --> 24:08.108 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, did I tell this to it a recent guest? 24:08.188 --> 24:23.318 [SPEAKER_01]: I've smoked so much weed that sometimes my thoughts run together, but one time somewhat recently before I was potentially hanging out with a friend that we do those things with I had to do therapy from a hot car. 24:23.638 --> 24:27.481 [SPEAKER_01]: I like the only way I can make the timing work was like sitting in the back seat of my Kia. 24:28.281 --> 24:34.566 [SPEAKER_01]: And the whole time I'm sweating, just being like, God, I hope this doesn't turn funky, but I turned the air on eventually. 24:34.606 --> 24:39.070 [SPEAKER_00]: We made it, we made it work, but... Oh, mama, not Udadi. 24:40.711 --> 24:42.353 [SPEAKER_01]: But also like, I've been very, whatever. 24:42.373 --> 24:47.997 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to save this part for the sub-stack, because I don't like to go on main talking about smegma. 24:48.417 --> 24:53.462 [SPEAKER_01]: One thing you said five years ago when we spoke was that you were in a, because the pandemic was raging. 24:58.225 --> 25:10.913 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's another tease for the sub-stextide because I love the, you know, I love to queer guys talking about our long term relationships and like the realities of being with someone because how long have you been together? 25:11.013 --> 25:13.715 [SPEAKER_00]: We've been together for 15 years this November. 25:14.435 --> 25:15.955 [SPEAKER_01]: insane insane. 25:15.975 --> 25:16.916 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're worth 13. 25:16.936 --> 25:17.536 [SPEAKER_01]: You're 15. 25:17.596 --> 25:25.158 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like I didn't realize that this was going to be possible for our people, but we shot out all of the the giants made this possible for us. 25:25.218 --> 25:26.018 [SPEAKER_01]: We thank them. 25:26.498 --> 25:27.438 [SPEAKER_00]: We thank you. 25:27.498 --> 25:28.638 [SPEAKER_00]: We know who we thank. 25:28.718 --> 25:29.439 [SPEAKER_00]: We thank you. 25:29.479 --> 25:34.660 [SPEAKER_00]: New Patrick Harris and David Berksford for keeping those boys locked in those cages where in those puppy masks. 25:35.080 --> 25:35.600 [SPEAKER_00]: We thank you. 25:36.686 --> 25:39.507 [SPEAKER_01]: And I will absolutely keep that in. 25:39.988 --> 25:46.571 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's do one more question before we do the final podcast question on the main feed. 25:46.991 --> 25:51.573 [SPEAKER_01]: Since I did some research on you, you also posted on threads. 25:51.833 --> 25:55.875 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone should always make fun of Chris Brown and his current fans. 25:55.955 --> 25:57.736 [SPEAKER_01]: We should be feeding that dead horse. 25:57.836 --> 25:59.877 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the only thing he hasn't hit. 26:05.197 --> 26:07.599 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're allowed to listen to Jordan Sparks. 26:07.939 --> 26:11.681 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a shame that Chris Brown has the bill on that song. 26:12.342 --> 26:13.323 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a shame. 26:13.563 --> 26:14.143 [SPEAKER_00]: What's again? 26:14.603 --> 26:20.607 [SPEAKER_00]: Once again, Chris Brown hurting a woman's career by just existing. 26:21.048 --> 26:22.789 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're right, you're going to listen to Jordan Sparks. 26:24.124 --> 26:34.146 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for that, uh, because I also agree and I, uh, wasn't, uh, hoping that you would allow me to keep, uh, click in my heels to misjored it. 26:34.166 --> 26:35.447 [SPEAKER_01]: And I hope she's doing well. 26:35.487 --> 26:42.028 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder the reason the reason this podcast is doing 300 plus episodes is because this is good journalism. 26:42.389 --> 26:45.229 [SPEAKER_00]: This is great investigative journalism. 26:45.569 --> 26:47.170 [SPEAKER_00]: More people need to do the air creams. 26:47.450 --> 26:48.310 [SPEAKER_00]: You're sending press that. 26:49.432 --> 27:08.701 [SPEAKER_01]: and Jay Jerdin, I stand on the shoulders of bisexual muscle giants, final question on the main side of this episode is going to be the character actress question, Jay Jerdin, if the world was ending and you could only save one character actress. 27:09.021 --> 27:09.621 [SPEAKER_01]: I must know 27:15.204 --> 27:22.589 [SPEAKER_00]: They're so many amazing, amazing women who really can steal a movie and make it their own. 27:24.590 --> 27:30.795 [SPEAKER_00]: I could say Judy Greer, I could say Leslie Mann, and these are people who often get confused. 27:31.175 --> 27:35.018 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe I said both their names so that I can cover my tracks. 27:38.782 --> 27:54.759 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness, you know, oh, I'm trying to think of the last person who really made me go, God damn it, I want them in more stuff, because that's your reaction to the character actor, she goes, oh, more stuff, please, please, hmm. 27:56.973 --> 28:06.163 [SPEAKER_01]: While you're thinking, let me tell you a crazy, I was looking back at previous episodes because I'm like, I was submitting for this award thing. 28:06.463 --> 28:12.150 [SPEAKER_01]: And the episode I submitted for gas podcast was with Car and Sony, who's in a movie called a nice Indian boy. 28:12.210 --> 28:13.171 [SPEAKER_01]: He's an incredible actor. 28:13.731 --> 28:23.544 [SPEAKER_01]: and he told me a story that he was shooting a movie years ago with Jennifer Coolidge, and this was before White Lotus, and Jennifer Coolidge, obviously, one of the character actresses that we bring up the most. 28:24.025 --> 28:31.595 [SPEAKER_01]: She said to him on set that she was thinking about retiring, because she was playing the same roles over and over, and she felt like she had done what she was meant to do. 28:32.115 --> 28:37.736 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it was not long after that that she did white lotus and the sort of run-and-sum so Jennifer Coolidge came up. 28:37.756 --> 28:45.778 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think like you're bringing up a good point which is that when we talk about these women, we're talking about performers who we think deserve the world. 28:46.358 --> 28:52.680 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm so glad that Jennifer Coolidge is now, you know, has even more financial stability and admirers. 28:52.960 --> 29:10.155 [SPEAKER_00]: I think because of her very recent kind of like critical claim, people forget her, some of her very, very, very funny character actress roots, I'm going to say I need Nisi Nash and stuff until I die. 29:10.952 --> 29:13.534 [SPEAKER_00]: Until I pass away, I want it could be serious. 29:13.975 --> 29:14.715 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be funny. 29:15.216 --> 29:15.976 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be short. 29:16.336 --> 29:18.078 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be like it could be recurring. 29:18.158 --> 29:19.339 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be single episode. 29:20.039 --> 29:24.283 [SPEAKER_00]: I need need to see national stuff and I need the comedian Loonnell and stuff. 29:24.363 --> 29:24.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Loonnell. 29:25.043 --> 29:25.804 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God. 29:25.824 --> 29:27.806 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see Loonnell more. 29:28.106 --> 29:28.526 [SPEAKER_00]: I will go. 29:28.927 --> 29:29.607 [SPEAKER_00]: Get out the way. 29:29.627 --> 29:29.867 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 29:30.128 --> 29:32.269 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see Loonnell more. 29:32.469 --> 29:33.610 [SPEAKER_01]: I love Loonnell. 29:34.191 --> 29:35.152 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that so much. 29:36.266 --> 29:59.150 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, both of those character actresses and performers are people that I would give a limb to having for them to come on this podcast because there are certain black women that obviously have not been given their due, but every time they show up to anything, they give you a 12 out of 10 performance and so it's about time that their resumes, bacon counts and 29:59.890 --> 30:03.613 [SPEAKER_01]: the conversations that we have are just about how they should be working non-stop. 30:03.993 --> 30:18.924 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, it's very impolite to bring up a person's age, societally, especially a woman, but I want to say Neseenash is only 56, and she's got a lot of years ahead, and I cannot wait to see what she's 30:26.188 --> 30:26.929 [SPEAKER_00]: so much stuff. 30:27.049 --> 30:29.510 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see Lou now and so much stuff. 30:29.811 --> 30:41.339 [SPEAKER_00]: I love a character who I love a character actress who is funny, but then who also can like give me a shift. 30:41.459 --> 30:42.800 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like truly like 30:43.944 --> 30:46.526 [SPEAKER_00]: give you some beautiful life advice. 30:46.626 --> 30:47.966 [SPEAKER_00]: Make you laugh. 30:49.107 --> 30:52.949 [SPEAKER_00]: That's like, as a, as a queer man. 30:54.250 --> 31:00.133 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you go, oh, I feel like I'm being constantly overlooked for things. 31:00.173 --> 31:04.216 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm not necessarily going to have any sort of like 31:05.346 --> 31:11.114 [SPEAKER_00]: people who want to support me in this very straight boys club of comedy of entertainment. 31:11.334 --> 31:14.739 [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of character actresses, whether that be because 31:16.229 --> 31:32.158 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not seen as the romantic object in films or whether it's because Hollywood's fat phobic, Hollywood's misogynistic, Hollywood has a bunch of, you know, Hollywood is anti-black, specifically anti-black women when it comes to some of the trends in Hollywood. 31:32.538 --> 31:40.443 [SPEAKER_00]: When you see a good character actress, you go, oh, she knows, she, she doesn't know exactly what queer men go through and he's not just queer. 31:40.783 --> 31:55.459 [SPEAKER_00]: But they have a version of it that they have to get through all the time and they have to fight through all of this stuff just to get past to deliver some of the favorite parts of movies and that is so well said. 31:56.780 --> 32:10.950 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that I think what's so smart about that is because that's probably what's underneath this question why I love them so much is because I see a lot of my struggles I said a lot of things I've been through I know that they have also had to overcome and another. 32:25.820 --> 32:26.722 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? 32:26.802 --> 32:33.594 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a level, and because budget management also loves, I mean, and it's there. 32:33.634 --> 32:35.357 [SPEAKER_00]: There's like a level of 32:37.057 --> 32:55.430 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a level of reverence and veneration and honor and respect that we give to female actors and female performers that I think we just go that's so good. 32:55.510 --> 32:58.192 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't people to know how good that is. 32:58.713 --> 33:01.595 [SPEAKER_00]: You remember when the first time you saw Danielle Brooks in 33:04.857 --> 33:06.058 [SPEAKER_00]: You and who is tasty? 33:06.719 --> 33:07.820 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is she so good? 33:08.260 --> 33:11.763 [SPEAKER_00]: Where has she been and you go she you and then she went to Yale, right? 33:11.783 --> 33:14.105 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, she's not a july art. 33:14.865 --> 33:16.026 [SPEAKER_00]: She's like classically trained. 33:16.487 --> 33:16.967 [SPEAKER_01]: She is. 33:16.987 --> 33:18.448 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a great question. 33:18.868 --> 33:29.017 [SPEAKER_00]: That's my favorite feeling is when you go who is this black woman killing it in this TV show and then you go she's good and then you go go classically trying 33:29.745 --> 33:31.365 [SPEAKER_01]: Juilliard by the way, Juilliard. 33:32.226 --> 33:38.107 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, your gay ass, Mike Owen, see her do a color purple on Broadway and then thing to yourself. 33:40.608 --> 33:44.189 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so lucky to be able to see Tasty belting on a Broadway stage. 33:44.449 --> 33:46.590 [SPEAKER_00]: And to get to Tasty Be So Fea, too. 33:46.610 --> 33:49.251 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's at, I get very happy. 33:49.571 --> 33:51.131 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's also how I feel about stand up. 33:51.171 --> 33:56.793 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I always tell people like, the stand up formula to make me, at least current me is like, 33:57.553 --> 34:11.691 [SPEAKER_00]: Wanda plus roi would join your plus some malani and then you stir it up and then if you bake it you get like you get a good version of Jay but it's just like. 34:12.512 --> 34:16.517 [SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things where I am, I'm always happy when I get this guy. 34:16.537 --> 34:19.300 [SPEAKER_00]: And there are people who are younger than me and Bublin. 34:19.380 --> 34:23.104 [SPEAKER_00]: There's this comic in Philly, Ebony, Ebony Williams, I think. 34:23.264 --> 34:24.966 [SPEAKER_00]: Ebony, make sure I got there right. 34:25.366 --> 34:28.570 [SPEAKER_00]: Now let me correct Ebony Moore, Ebony Moore from Philadelphia. 34:28.590 --> 34:31.733 [SPEAKER_01]: Ebony Moore, we shot out the amazing comedian Ebony Moore. 34:33.555 --> 34:51.435 [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot wait to look up her stuff, but also people listening to this right now, I'm going to assume all most of them know who Jay Jordan is, but just in case they don't Jay will you tell these stunning listeners where to follow you and obviously you've got many a special to watch many a clip online, but what would you like for them to know? 34:52.282 --> 35:00.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you can follow me on all social media at J-J-J-R-D and J-A-Y-J-U-R-D-E-N. You can buy tickets on j-J-J-R-DN.com. 35:01.104 --> 35:01.964 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm touring. 35:02.004 --> 35:04.604 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm currently on tour now with a completely different hour. 35:04.944 --> 35:07.645 [SPEAKER_00]: You can watch my special, yes, ma'am on Hulu. 35:07.785 --> 35:08.825 [SPEAKER_00]: Also on Tubi. 35:08.925 --> 35:11.725 [SPEAKER_00]: Also on Amazon Prime and Apple TV+. 35:12.225 --> 35:15.826 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can listen to me on different podcasts like this one. 35:16.486 --> 35:20.547 [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, hey, there is something really fun coming out 35:22.088 --> 35:24.520 [SPEAKER_00]: I can tease the comedy central thing that comes out. 35:25.720 --> 35:29.202 [SPEAKER_00]: early October, and then at the end of October, I'm in Los Angeles. 35:29.222 --> 35:33.404 [SPEAKER_00]: So about tickets to see me in October, Dynastie Tech Friday. 35:33.644 --> 35:52.454 [SPEAKER_01]: So everybody, go follow Jay, go see him live, performing all around, and of course go watch the specials, and Jay, it is just so cool to be able to have you on this podcast in its first few weeks, and then to sort of have this reunion, I'm just, I'm, I know the next one will not be so long in between. 35:52.514 --> 35:54.415 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just want to tell you how grateful I am that you're here. 35:54.915 --> 35:56.696 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but let's go to Substack. 35:56.816 --> 36:13.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go keep talking and in fact, um, stunning listeners if you want to go be a paid subscriber do that now because I'm about to ask Jay about, uh, his husband's big cock, maybe not actually, but I'm also going to ask about some first kisses of some third, herstery. 36:13.707 --> 36:15.028 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, that being said, 36:15.868 --> 36:20.329 [SPEAKER_01]: let's do a question about the polyness of it all. 36:20.589 --> 36:27.691 [SPEAKER_01]: When we last spoke, you had a long distance third that you're sort of navigating the COVID nest of it all. 36:28.792 --> 36:30.372 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you call yourself poly? 36:30.392 --> 36:36.534 [SPEAKER_01]: And if so, what have been your most fun or recent or memorable poly experiences? 36:36.734 --> 36:40.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was still considering myself a person who engages in 36:41.415 --> 36:43.575 [SPEAKER_00]: fun, ethical, not monogamy. 36:43.636 --> 36:46.756 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the term poly sometimes turns people off. 36:47.176 --> 36:50.617 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a joke right now where I say I can't be poly because I don't have a cape. 36:51.397 --> 36:56.538 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I went up. 36:56.858 --> 36:59.199 [SPEAKER_01]: I went to college where there was a cape guy. 36:59.359 --> 37:03.460 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's a, it's a beautiful tradition at every, every institution. 37:04.163 --> 37:11.826 [SPEAKER_00]: And I still love having fun as a married person who is committed to my husband. 37:11.846 --> 37:13.666 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there are straight people. 37:13.706 --> 37:15.967 [SPEAKER_00]: They've been very slow on the uptake. 37:16.067 --> 37:21.369 [SPEAKER_00]: Also there are a bunch of straight men who kind of ruined all of the progress that were made. 37:21.449 --> 37:23.349 [SPEAKER_00]: David Harbor Reggie Watts. 37:23.369 --> 37:24.870 [SPEAKER_00]: There are a couple of straight men. 37:25.610 --> 37:31.014 [SPEAKER_00]: who really, they keep fucking up the stuff that striped people were getting closer. 37:31.334 --> 37:32.855 [SPEAKER_00]: They were like, okay, maybe we can have them. 37:33.135 --> 37:36.378 [SPEAKER_00]: But then these straight men's got fucking up. 37:36.418 --> 37:41.882 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that like, I mean, in the cutest way and in the softest way, 37:42.907 --> 38:03.976 [SPEAKER_00]: Being non monogamous means if I'm dancing at mother disco and someone's dancing behind me I don't have to check in with my husband like can this person dance on me because that's like What this is for a lot of people the blanket version of this because with some heterosexual couples They'd be like and then and then can you but she was dancing on people he was dancing on her 38:05.197 --> 38:13.189 [SPEAKER_00]: Crazy concept you can get a little kiss get a little smudge if you want to get a kiss Why not Not everyone can handle it. 38:13.770 --> 38:15.192 [SPEAKER_00]: I can I can I can I can 38:17.702 --> 38:37.141 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then let's ask, do you have any memorable stories of the recent years that was like a beautiful night out that became an unsuspecting sluddy situation that you feel so grateful that you are in this ethically nominogamous relationship, anything that was either hot and embarrassing formative? 38:37.622 --> 38:40.364 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember I went out with some friends. 38:41.145 --> 38:58.226 [SPEAKER_00]: And these are friends that like I have hooked up with in the past, I've hooked up with them with my husband without my husband, but I went out with them and was fun like dancing with them like their married couple and then I was with them and like we're just kind of dancing. 38:58.807 --> 39:05.791 [SPEAKER_00]: and then because they're a married couple, they start to like kiss and have fun with each other. 39:05.871 --> 39:19.297 [SPEAKER_01]: For the rest of the interview, head to sub-stack linked below where you will also find chats with Colin Braun, Rich Burns, Christopher Pattison Rosso, Tyler Varvel, Sebastian Dino, Cody Silver, Johnny Sibly, Sam Altizer, and more. 39:19.758 --> 39:26.901 [SPEAKER_01]: It's at sub-stack.com slash at Eric Wills, and I will see you there for a gorgeous Harry Hornie Time.