[SPEAKER_05]: Hey Andre, after 17 years, I finally got to borrow and drive a Mazurati sports car.
[SPEAKER_05]: Never ever driven a Mazurati sports car in the entire history of TNF studios.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nope, never did never.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dang, that's a big occasion.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is, and I was so excited and doing it turned into an other nightmare of a train wreck, and I'll tell you that story.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't you also drive a Masarade sedan, but also turned into a train wreck?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like 13 years ago, I borrowed a, I think there was a quadriporting sedan from the dealer.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ah, and they said, we've got 13 of them sitting here because they weren't exactly hot sellers.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can take this one and you can go review it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Tommy and I took it to go and review.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_05]: And four minutes into the review, they called me and they said they needed it back.
[SPEAKER_05]: What?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep, four minutes and 15 sitting on the lot and then they said we need this one because somebody came by and they want to buy this one and that was really kind of when we stopped borrowing cars from dealers.
[SPEAKER_05]: What we still sometimes do this now, but with a much better result.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, so this is a special show today.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're trying something and we don't know if this is going to work.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a proof of concept show.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if this doesn't work, please don't hold us responsible
[SPEAKER_05]: It's, you know, I've been listening to this car pro show on the weekend, which is a radio show, and people actually call in and ask some questions.
[SPEAKER_05]: What car should I buy?
[SPEAKER_05]: As you know, asking questions, especially for our Patreon members, is something that we answer during our shows, but they're always typed.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when people type questions, you just can't have a conversation with them, you can't get the full details.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so in about 10 minutes, we're going to
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll let you guys our patrons or if you guys are watching this Live you'll be able to call in we've got the phone right here.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna do this very low tech We're gonna just put the phone up to the mic and look this is a nice iPhone This is an excellent phone.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can actually ask us a question and we'll be happy to answer it or just have a car chat with us.
[SPEAKER_05]: What's the number Cole?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll be able to tell you in a second, the number is 7203105435.
[SPEAKER_04]: But don't call just yet, just give us a few minutes, 12 minutes more, because I want to hear your Maserati story.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I got to tell you the story of war from Maserati.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was going to explore it, my mom.
[SPEAKER_05]: passed away last year about this time, and she left me a condo on Mark Island.
[SPEAKER_05]: And my man's accurate was kind enough to arrange for a Mazurati 2026 MC pour alone.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whoa, that's the car.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a hot looking car.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just to be called the Mazurati MC 20.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this was like a dream of mine to drive, this is a convertible spider version.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it starts at 285,000 only.
[SPEAKER_05]: Only.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think this one probably has tested is like 300,000.
[SPEAKER_05]: 621 horsepower, twin turbo V6.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's got about as much Italian.
[SPEAKER_05]: What's that I think called something about life?
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't think.
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's that Italian version of that as you can expect.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's very bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's absolutely stunning.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was so excited.
[SPEAKER_05]: OK. And the initial problem was, and if you fast forward in this video, you'll see.
[SPEAKER_05]: And look, here's the problem.
[SPEAKER_05]: I knew this was going to be a issue because my wife was coming down with me as well because we're trying to fix up this condo because my mom bought an 83 and she has not basically refurbished this condo's own.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's old and it looks like something from 1983 and she was coming down.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you fast forward through this video, Cole, you'll see me showing how much space there is for luggage in the car and we picked it up at the airport, there we go, there we go,
[SPEAKER_05]: And so I'm sure your wife was really happy with it, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, this is as much luggage space as you get.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's it, right there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me show you.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's okay, I'll just act back.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a backpack.
[SPEAKER_05]: You won't fit, what about the carry on?
[SPEAKER_05]: You won't fit because the back kind of slopes down and you won't fit.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there is a front, a front will hold a folder, literally.
[SPEAKER_05]: It will hold a folder.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll fold her.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can see the slope, it won't fit a roller board.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so my wife had to have her roller board on her lap.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure that was not.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, she was not happy with me.
[SPEAKER_05]: And also she couldn't get her laugh because it's got the diahedra doors, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: So I put the bag on her lap, close the thing, and then of course it makes, there's a front.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's the folder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, or maybe a laptop with 50 laptop, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So now, but you know, the chance to drive a $3,000 Italian convertible hardtop convertible is very rare.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was like, I told her about it, she was mad at me and you know how that goes when your wife's mad at you.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's okay, but it wasn't okay, but did you take it out after you got back from the airport?
[SPEAKER_05]: It gets worse.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so I get in the car.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have a horrible drive down because she's giving me that look like you made me do this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I hate this car.
[SPEAKER_05]: It has no room for my life.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I got in late, and I parked it behind the condominium complex.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm been on to me.
[SPEAKER_05]: There was a basketball, not court, but just a hoop.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was it up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the next day, I get up.
[SPEAKER_05]: I go to drive the car because I'm super excited.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this is what I find.
[SPEAKER_05]: A giant spider web of cracks in your windshield.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then if you go to the next picture, there was a zombie left a note.
[SPEAKER_05]: You want to read the note?
[SPEAKER_04]: The note says this is very small note.
[SPEAKER_04]: My daughter was shooting baskets.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... on the hope and hit your window with the ball please call me at yara yara yara we can pay which is very nice so this gentleman left uh... note on the car basically his daughter was playing basketball and the basketball hit the window and what do you think the gentleman was thinking when he saw a hot two cedar three hundred thousand dollar car three hundred thousand dollar and the shield is not like your tundra which were replacing that no it's a wrap around windshield which is looks
[SPEAKER_04]: Expensive.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, everything looks expensive on this car.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was I was absolutely like gutted Not just for me, but for the guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that what'll happen is that the scars are insured and so I think Mazurati will pick up the bill What's alone from Mazurati?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it belongs to them.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the anchored and also I mean it's bad for everybody I mean this was just a freak accident
[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, the first time I review, you know, what is an essence of the supercar, and I have a one day, and my wife has pissed at me, and, you know, you know, what we should problem, broken, and it's not just a little crack, I mean, it's, it's spidered, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, uh,
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was, it was no good on-dry, and then I also had another problem, which was kind of the PC-resistence, there we go.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some French believe.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is, you know, we bought a bunch of sports cars over the last several years.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Tommy has his ass to Martin.
[SPEAKER_05]: We had a Porsche 911 Targa, and then we had a CA Corvette 2020, and the one thing that all three of them had in comic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you imagine the one thing that all three of them had in common?
[SPEAKER_05]: The breaks sounded like a rusted 1980s who Honda oh civic oh wait I have an idea about this an incredible piercing squeal every time you hit the bridge could it be a very high performance count carbon ceramic
[SPEAKER_04]: brake rotors that were not hot.
[SPEAKER_05]: It could be, but this car didn't have carbon ceramics.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, so all three of those cars have this horrible squeaks.
[SPEAKER_05]: So when you hit the brakes, you see a Arportia and Tommy's asking, it's like, you know, it's like, it's really, it's just embarrassed because you're in the 300,000 dollar car people are looking at you now for the wrong reason.
[SPEAKER_05]: And guess what this car did?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's squeaked.
[SPEAKER_05]: Very badly, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, did you did the video, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you heard it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cole heard it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was, it was embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_05]: So between the crack glass, between, you know, my wife's reaction to the car, and between, you know, the the squeaky brakes, I just didn't drive it very much.
[SPEAKER_05]: My dream turned into a literal nightmare.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because it just took the wind out of my sales and the car looked the car is absolutely gorgeous I'm not blaming maybe the squeaky brakes are a high performance.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have to high performance thing All would know right maybe high performance.
[SPEAKER_05]: We should have taken on a race track and take it to the ground.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm sure they love that
[SPEAKER_05]: But it could be that because these cars all have that in common in performance cars and I was just gutted and I was miserable and it turned into, you know, a sad sad state of affairs.
[SPEAKER_05]: But like I said, the cars absolutely gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_05]: The materials are it's all out in terror.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's what the Italian cars are all about.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the style, it's the occasion, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the engine note, the Steve Engel.
[SPEAKER_05]: It has a, you know, a regular torque converter instead of a dual clutch, so it's a very comfortable car to drive.
[SPEAKER_05]: The steering.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's precise, it's like wired to your brain, and you put that top down, it's incredible to sound something.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's lower there.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you know how, what do you think that car and a truck having common?
[SPEAKER_05]: Go to the point where I put the top down, wouldn't you?
[SPEAKER_05]: There's something that that in a car and a truck having common.
[SPEAKER_05]: It has a tailgate.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it doesn't have a tailgate.
[SPEAKER_04]: It has a tonal cover.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, so we're gonna watch the top go down now and it has this beautiful like motion where you can see the back comes up the back comes up to the rooftop and by the way that hardtop is also photokromantic, so you can make a darker weather.
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's a little tiny piece of glass behind my head there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, little piece of glass goes up and down.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you got like a tundra.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's got the little window.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I see.
[SPEAKER_05]: It goes up and down just like a truck window.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think we've come to the supermarket portion of the show where we're going to let people try to call it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a couple of comments.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're live on Patreon as well at patreon.com-tfalkar, which is our only page.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's a couple of comments in the chat room saying first of all, great job for that person and his daughter to leave a note.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was David.
[SPEAKER_04]: David, you're amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's a lesson for the child and it's, you know,
[SPEAKER_04]: And then also now there's a comment says that Roman, unfortunately, they think that Maseradi will ban us for life like Subaru.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've been very bad, not on purpose, but we've never driven Maserati's.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's not like, I don't think Maserati will be in us for like- But what if Maserati makes a pickup truck?
[SPEAKER_04]: What then?
[SPEAKER_05]: I actually call the guy and I said, you know, he was very nice and he was super apologetic and I was super apologetic because I felt bad for him.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I mean, the thing is, nobody wins in this, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Maserati loses, I lose, the daughter loses, the guy loses.
[SPEAKER_05]: It may be this common, it's true, maybe he taught his daughter a really good lesson.
[SPEAKER_05]: take responsibility for it and you know, I'm sure that windshield's going to be in thousands.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not more.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so it was really nice for him to leave that note because the easiest thing in the world would have been just a you know, scary away and not take any blame for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was I was very grateful for that.
[SPEAKER_05]: So are we ready for Collins?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just turned off to do not disturb message and call what's the first number?
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you guys want to talk to us give us a call, let's see if anybody calls.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if 10 people call it once?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so 720 310 545 that's a number 720 310 310 54 35 what nobody calls Then we sit here for the next 40 minutes.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's good for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was boring
[SPEAKER_05]: My proof of concept show is not going to exactly happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we need to talk about what's happening because there's a phone call.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Go for an answer it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, put on speaker.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_05]: To accept press 1.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's in the voice mail.
[SPEAKER_05]: Press 2.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_04]: Update settings.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, somebody called, somebody called, okay, why it's calling, okay?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not accepting it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you do it again?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's not, it's not doing that beep.
[SPEAKER_05]: It should be doing the beep.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's a reason it's not doing the beep.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why isn't it doing the beep, hold on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you show it to cool?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was working.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we're using Gmail and it's Yeah, try again.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is this is exhibiting you on me to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I failed This is gonna be like that Maseradi review pretty soon There you go, it did that time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello Oh, wonderful hold on let me let me put you on speaker Okay, you're on speaker who's this?
[SPEAKER_05]: hey dad i just came from florida yeah i'm not new there i'm more than simple for it i'm your not your marko island but uh but it yeah done i i use the one commenting on some of our shows as well oh always yeah i'm always comment i'm always doing stuff well it's done thank you so much yeah thank you it's wonderful to have you on the phone and it's wonderful to have you on the show so is there a question we can answer
[SPEAKER_01]: And as I'm doing here at your new series, the hands free 2000.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have a couple of friends who have Tesla's that are around.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want for a huge room down from North Carolina here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brian went to driveway, he said, in touch the steering wheel.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a direction going, coming down or going back up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he knows, he's a staunch believer in how amazing it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And his theory is the reason why no one else is doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's saying, you know, for a while, Tesla basically is already at, you know, is going to go level four, slash level five, but they're just saying it's only level two, and you have to watch it because they don't want to take the liability, like, you know, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't a car accident.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then there's also his additional, you know, theory around that is like, that's why, you know, if you know, also actually not that, well, my other question for the question is, is why are other farm manufacturers not maybe picking their footsteps and doing similar things?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why can't secure the crews or blue crews?
[SPEAKER_01]: You put in an address, and it only works on the highway.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't put the GPS in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't follow the GPS, like the Tesla does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't they do something similar
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, taking a consideration and you're only using cameras and guess what our eyes are just cameras too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't see why they need all these additional sensors and stuff like the BMW system or the Mercedes system.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just to be level three and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you bring up a lot of really great points.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me take a step back.
[SPEAKER_05]: So for all of you who don't know, we least test the model Y at the end of last year.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we wanted to do it because we wanted to do a series that we're calling hands-free 2000.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the goal is to drive the car 2000 miles without ever touching the steering wheel or the pedals.
[SPEAKER_05]: And try to see if full self-driving latest version allows you to do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And actually, very fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm verified.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the thing that prompted that was, as I've been saying, my mom passed away a few a year ago now, and my stepfather, who's 93, we're at the moment where we almost had to take his car away from him because, you know, he's getting the point where he's getting into more and more accidents.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I figured that a computer could probably drive a car better than a 93-year-old, and that's not trying to, you know, disparate.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you dising 93-year-old?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: I figure at that point.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd rather be.
[SPEAKER_05]: sitting as opposed to driving.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so that was imposed for that series, and we've owned a bunch of, this is our sixth Tesla, so the last one was a cyber truck, and that had full self-driving, and what would happen is it would work until, and the question is, did they get rid of the until, and the until is,
[SPEAKER_05]: like I was driving home one day from golden and the car was the truck was making a left-hand turn and there was a guy coming out onto the main road which I was and then the truck almost turned left not into the road but into him and that's that until moment where you have to grab the wheel and you have to keep yourself from
[SPEAKER_05]: crashing into something or somebody else, and so everybody online has been saying that their latest version of FSD Supervised is better than that, and so we wanted to test it, and we're doing that in a number of ways So this week actually Tommy is driving the car or not driving it to be specific and he's gonna have his conducting
[SPEAKER_05]: He's conducting a week of driving and he's going to have his experiment at snowing now so we're finding out if it works in the snow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next week, I get it, and Andre gets the case gets it, so we're going to have four episodes where each person is going to not only test it, but we're also going to get, we have another phone call coming, and so if you're calling, we're on the line, we'll get back to you in a second, actually, give us a second here, whoever is, it's from Fredericksburg, Texas, so call back when we're done with this question and we'll answer it for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, so we're all going to drive it, and then the idea is, we're going to hopefully find out if not only it works, but if we like using it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're questions, so let me get to your question down.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there are five levels of autonomy, we're at level two, and level two basically means that the driver has to be able to take control if something goes wrong at any moment.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're saying that your friends are saying that maybe Tesla's FSD's at level 4 and the difference between level 2 and level 4 and level 5 is basically at level 3 the car can drive itself without the input of a human But there are certain conditions at which point like whether or not
[SPEAKER_05]: or maybe certain locations, where you might have to take control.
[SPEAKER_05]: By level five, you basically don't have to have a steering wheel.
[SPEAKER_05]: The car can drive itself without super-beach timing anywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: Under any weather conditions, and your friends are asking, is it system really a level four or level five?
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the proof is in the pudding, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: If I were a level four, then I suppose if I were selling a car with that, I would be advertising that.
[SPEAKER_05]: because at that point that would be a huge time saver time saver and I was just actually reading a comment that Elon Musk made recently and that is he was talking to the video has just come out with a set of tools that are supposed to allow full self-driving further manufacturers.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the problem that Tesla has run into and and this is what Musk was saying is you can get to like 99% but it's that last
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's those edge cases that are hard to predict and hard to figure out and at level five and level four and at level three you have to be at a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can't be at ninety-nine percent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Also liability.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then the other thing where liability comes from.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so, friends are saying that liability is the issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, the only level three system that right now that exists is Mercedes and they have it between like
[SPEAKER_05]: Vegas and LA and the car could only do 55 miles an hour and the big difference is that at that point Mercedes takes a liability on to itself.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if the car crashes, if it's not supervised, in other words, level three, in other words, I'm sitting in the car and I'm texting in the car crashes.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can then be not at fault because the cars at level three and it's the manufacturer and so his friends are suggesting that Testotos don't want to go to level three or level four because then they would have to take the reliability and responsibility on to themselves And I guess Mike down I guess my my thought on that would be test is already being sued
[SPEAKER_05]: from a lot of people under the level two system right there's a lawsuit right now where a Tesla basically drove itself into an oncoming truck and a family of four died they're getting sued for that and over the years they have been sued so your friends may be on to something but I think Tesla's going to get sued no matter what they do so I'm not sure that that is the case but it's it's interesting conspiracy theory I kind of get it well can I
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, go ahead, Don.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead, Don.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a super quick follow-up is, you know, you could make the, well, first off, the ones, this one, this one, they're in Bob and our older version, the FSD.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're talking about the newest version.
[SPEAKER_01]: Either that one of like 14.2, whatever it's called.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was one that, you know, that my friends are, you know, all, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: saying that the most amazing thing in the world and in Iran says, you know, that last one percent that that's the issue, I think that could be said for any human driver too.
[SPEAKER_01]: That 99, I mean, you know, as current duty issues, you're no longer going to go out any condition, but there's always that there's always some, I don't say even more than that one percent that certain people should not be driving in a certain situation, they shouldn't be getting themselves in.
[SPEAKER_01]: In those cases, they can pull over when the case may be too, so I think that our unit can also be made.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure what we're going to say.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just a couple more comments.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you asked about super crews and blue crews.
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are four than GM systems.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the latest news there is that I was recently in the Cadillac Optic with the super crews.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it doesn't do point to point navigation, hands free, which is, I think, well, I think they're getting there.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what they said was, it's coming in like a year or a year and a half.
[SPEAKER_04]: So GM is working on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is it not ready yet now?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think they're conservative.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, Tesla's the absolute exact opposite.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the other reason we're doing the series now, by the way, is because you compare now, MSD with the grock, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Because it comes with grock,
[SPEAKER_05]: The problem my mom would have had or Carl would have had is actually inputting the address Whereas with grock you can just say you can set your home location you can set your work location If you really want to keep it simple you can just go hey, grock drive me home and the car will then drive you home Or if you know the if you know if you don't know the address Yeah, you could like I need to go to the bank so you could say hey take me to blah blah blank in Boulder and the car will do that And so I think when you pair those two it becomes very powerful for people who are
[SPEAKER_05]: of that age now where, you know, they're having their driver's license or their cars taken away and that means freedom in America and that's hard.
[SPEAKER_05]: So let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you drive?
[SPEAKER_01]: I drive all older cars, I have, you know, my daily driver is actually an old portution that I bought for in Newt, so I got 280,000 miles on it, I have an F-150 and then my wife drives a flex that you wouldn't get a pull from her, dead hand, I don't think that she loves that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, what is it about the flex that people love so much?
[SPEAKER_05]: That car has such a following.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why do you think you love it?
[SPEAKER_05]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's super, like, we've, from a liability standpoint, we've, I have about 160,000 on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, both that brand new and 2015, and it's been,
[SPEAKER_01]: to get to put a dollar of actual repair work into it and to space it's like the back seat for the limo back there and then and then we just threw all our crap in there and it's loaded around my wife is only five foot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So first climbing in, jumping, climbing anywhere, she gets all the space and she just kind of like sits into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know there's no climbing needed and it's a big car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she likes that comfort of the big car feeling.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if she just, she loves it and I don't think it's our brooch or vehicle
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those cars sold in two places.
[SPEAKER_05]: They sold in Detroit, and they sold in LA.
[SPEAKER_05]: For some reason, people in LA, and people in Detroit love the flexes that was like a hot bit for those cars.
[SPEAKER_05]: And in Florida, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey dude, thank you for being such a super fan.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for calling in.
[SPEAKER_05]: And thank you for a great question.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like these.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this format by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you should continue.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we appreciate you.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we'll talk to you next time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ciao.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, if you guys are watching and you want to call in, actually this guy just called him, we'll call him back, okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: And while you're calling him back, Rivian recently also had their technology day where they talked about self-driving and autonomy and they said actually a lot of these companies are working on their own.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, hardware and software.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, how are you?
[SPEAKER_05]: Hold on a second, let me put you on speaker.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, who is this?
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Ted, thank you for calling and sorry we were talking with Don.
[SPEAKER_05]: Don, yes, so I called you back.
[SPEAKER_05]: So thanks for calling.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oops, somebody else is calling, whoever's from Phoenix will call you back.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll call you back, yeah, we'll call you back.
[SPEAKER_05]: Go ahead, what's your question?
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, I'm a bit nervous.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I'm talking to my heroes now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not heroes.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were like, last week, you gave me some advice on some marriage advice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a 2008 F.J. Cruiser that had a frame like Swiss cheese.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that happened to some of them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that happened to some of them.
[SPEAKER_05]: They did not have, the frames did not hold out well.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what happened, did you convince her to get something else?
[SPEAKER_02]: I, yes, by virtue of the fact that it just showed up in the driveway.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, OK, so you kind of followed that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You kind of fold our advice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that true?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're all kind of kind of, I didn't have to show you say the count as to to ask your, to basically not ask your permission, but say, hey, we need to do cars.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just went in, bought it, bought it on.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should really cool with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you went the forgiveness route.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did.
[SPEAKER_05]: What was a car?
[SPEAKER_05]: What's a car?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a Porsche guy, and this is a base use version, you know, depreciation special.
[SPEAKER_05]: What year?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a tour of 2019.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So is that the first gen?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, that's like the third gen. No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I can't remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a Porsche guy, I'm just, you know, I don't know what the generation is.
[SPEAKER_05]: And how do you like it?
[SPEAKER_04]: It is a very nice car.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it everything?
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it a six cylinder?
[SPEAKER_05]: Or is it an eighth?
[UNKNOWN]: It's a six cylinder.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a base turbo, you know, a base six cylinder turbo.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's, I don't know, my, you know, my primary car, and I know, you, you'll probably recognize it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But my daily driver is my upper H1.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's about as different from that vehicle as it possibly can be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'm right to cayenne.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what convinced you to go after a cayenne being a h1 driver?
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that is a world of difference there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I needed something because the H1 is what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a lot of time in the shop.
[SPEAKER_02]: It requires a lot of maintenance.
[SPEAKER_02]: I needed something to get me around town.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also didn't want to get something like an Ineos Grenadier or Lair Cruiser or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Essentially, just with the H1 does, it's just not as good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the H1 is better than all those cars in every regard in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, there's no reason to have two off-road vehicles that can also carry, you know, 4,000 toxic capacity.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's, uh, one of those things where I just needed a nice get around town car that's comfortable and fun to drive.
[SPEAKER_05]: And what, what, what, what was your buying experience like, where did you find this portion?
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to come back and say I found one online and had a ship here and the process was smooth and dangerous and we got a nice extended warranty which was important to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't better all.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, you hear about horror stories about people dealing with dealerships and you know, mine was just walking.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the paperwork and we'll have to have to talk about 30 minutes actually.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that sounds amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was really nervous when you asked us this question a couple of weeks back, and I was like, I hope it really works out, but it sounded like it did work out.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's really amazing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's a great car.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a great car.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you got, you got a really good car there, and I think everything you wanted.
[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, the Porsche is fun and great, but I'm more interested in the H1 now.
[SPEAKER_05]: As a former, under as a former H2 owner, what questions do you have?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, first of all, which H1 do you have?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that this the four door?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's called the HNCS, which is the wagon, and actually during the COVID, I actually did a video for you guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you guys ran it on the on the channel.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but yeah, it's a 2003 bright red.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got an engine and a called a P400, which is kind of the ultimate evolution of the 6.5 turbo diesel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's got about 400 horsepower and about 850 foot-thousand torque I guess at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's currently being rebuilt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about by finding gears.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, so it's 2080, and I talk about it way too much.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's cool, but it's also red, which is a really cool color.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fire house red, it's 110 made in that color for that year or so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, but so it doesn't have a timing belt or a timing chain has timing gears, but I'm surprised that was an issue.
[SPEAKER_04]: Were you surprised by that too?
[SPEAKER_02]: At the 65 has normally a tightening chain, and the problem is those tightening chains stretch out.
[SPEAKER_02]: They actually have over the span of 30,000 miles, they can stretch out about an inch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that proves off the tightening.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I converted over a tightening gear set, which is aftermarket, and of course, you know, what happens when you put out the market stuff on it, it typically fails.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what happened here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Very interesting.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, before we let you go, give a question for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, are you guys ever going to have like a maybe a Patreon event or anything at the ranch or anything like that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'd love to schedule a road trip on the Colorado sometime I've never been there and would be, I'd love to have an excuse to come out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we've been thinking about doing that a lot, you know, we want to do like a lot of people are doing live podcasts and they're doing it kind of, you know, as a fundraiser and not for themselves, but as a kind of a commercial event and we don't want to do it that way.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we thought we could probably set up like a little studio at the barn, at the big barn, at the ranch, and have people come out.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that is certainly on the agenda for one of the weather turns nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know,
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Stay tuned.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're considering it.
[SPEAKER_05]: We love our fans.
[SPEAKER_05]: We love the fact that you guys are unable to do this job.
[SPEAKER_05]: So hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'd love to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's always a little bit nervous because when we do like a call-in show like this or an event which we tried before and some other locations when nobody shows up, it's kind of, it's still terrifying.
[SPEAKER_05]: But like you showed
[SPEAKER_05]: Alright, take care.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, bye.
[SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we have another call.
[SPEAKER_05]: Here, you want to call once you call this time.
[SPEAKER_05]: You get the next one.
[SPEAKER_05]: And while you do that, remember when we were talking to Dan?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he said he has a fusion.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, Dan, if you're listening, we have a story about a fusion.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you remember our fusion story, Andrew?
[SPEAKER_05]: for big guys in the small car.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, we were at the Chicago Auto Show.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was a few years back.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we decided to not fly back because there was a snowstorm coming, so we rented a car.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it was me, Andre Nathan, and our videographer, Ian, and we drove back a thousand miles in a Ford Fusion.
[SPEAKER_05]: And as much as I love the Ford Fusion, I did not love being in the back of that car with four guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: And well, the problem was that it was a car with bolt tires, and we were going through a snowstorm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was another big problem.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, this is Andre and Roman.
[SPEAKER_04]: Trying to call you back.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, what's your name?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you see my name on the screen at CWScape XLT4, it's for my name is Chris Warren.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, hey Chris.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been, I've been following you guys for years and years,
[SPEAKER_03]: you grow and you know keep up the good work that was kind of the main thing but one of the questions I had for you guys more was what do you see as an upcoming trend or you know something that you kind of see and that would excite you that's coming up
[SPEAKER_03]: where we're kind of in between with, you know, from you guys this perspective.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we just discussed this this morning, actually, in our meeting.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's a great question.
[SPEAKER_05]: So let me give you a couple of trends that I think are coming.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think in the truck world, a deficit trend and we haven't seen anybody else, but obviously forward and the Santa Cruz coming with the compact truck, but the compact truck is coming.
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, slates coming back with or coming in with its tiny little truck.
[SPEAKER_05]: For it's also going to have one, I think that certainly the stout, which is the Toyota truck, is somewhere being discussed or planned or putting in production.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think we're going to see a lot more small trucks in the next couple of years.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's one of the big truck trends I think I see.
[SPEAKER_04]: What about car trends, Roman?
[UNKNOWN]: Where supposedly kind of that mid-sized?
[SPEAKER_03]: Which would now be like a mid-sized circuit when they used to be more compound?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but maybe I think Roman was mentioning smaller like a rampage, you know, how they have the little ram rampage in Brazil that type of thing, but the other thing we're discussing this morning in our meeting just TFL was,
[SPEAKER_04]: plug-in hybrids.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's going to be big this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're just talking about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they've been around.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's luxury plug-in hybrids.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's some basic ones, like the Prius, which is a little bit more affordable.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think we'll see a lot more of that throughout.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have another call, but we'll call them back.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, Chris, where are you located at?
[SPEAKER_03]: a phoenixers on the area and we're having a massive thunderstorm at the moment, which is very unusual for us.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what do you drive?
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you drive?
[SPEAKER_05]: What's your, what's your vehicle?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have a, I have a 2021 explorer King Ranch suite.
[SPEAKER_03]: My twin turbo and then my wife has a 17 forster that we've done some offroading with and you'll light flight modifications too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I used to go to Phoenix quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some great off-roading around a patchy junction if you've gone down there and north of Phoenix or some, and then if you really want to go like serious, crown king, there's two ways of crown king.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's an easy way, and then there's a hard way.
[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't take the force to the hard way.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's easy way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's hard way with the fork, there's a way of setting up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not many can, it's really sad.
[SPEAKER_05]: yeah exactly uh... so uh... love air is all now thank you for calling will uh... we appreciate you watching us and thank you for the great question yeah appreciated very much thanks
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's call back the other one who called Andre.
[SPEAKER_05]: In another trend, I think, of course, are the e-rebs, the exchange vehicles.
[SPEAKER_05]: So this is kind of like where you have both the combustion engine and electric motor.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the combustion engine just works as a generator, obviously.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is something that
[SPEAKER_04]: BMW came out with in the car that you own the I3 and now of course in the RAM And I think that's gonna be a very popular option and a very popular thing for people and Also the return of all the very cheap electric cars that were on lease Over the last year or two coming back into the market and that could create some interesting dynamics
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, there's been a lot of like, I told you so in the electric car world.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I think the death of the electric car has been far exaggerated.
[SPEAKER_05]: I still think it comes down to this Andre, how much gas do you have at your house?
[SPEAKER_04]: At my personal house?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, how much does one ounce?
[SPEAKER_04]: How much electricity?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, almost unlimited maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's all our panels.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it becomes that that becomes the ultimate reason why electric cars are going to do very well Because everybody has electricity you don't have to go and I think with the advent of solid state batteries at CES this year There's a motorcycle company and I can't recall the name the just in search.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, first introduced the first solid state battery in a motorcycle
[SPEAKER_05]: Georgia charges in like I want to say it's only a 33 kilowatt hour battery but I want to say Georgia is from 0 to 110 minutes that's 200 not to maybe 90 in 10 minutes and gets you know incredible range and I think with the advent of electric
[SPEAKER_05]: Solid state batteries, what you're going to see is something that allows an electric car to exceed the range of and truck a budget.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, as long as it's similarly priced to a comparable combustion vehicle, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: If you have to pay double the price for some of these technologies, I think it makes less sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we're seeing those prices come down as long as they're coming down more.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's what's going to be interesting.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm hoping it's like kind of like hard drives.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, where we keep exponentially increasing the amount of room that we have in a hard drive and we keep decreasing the amount of money So give me a call.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's who is up next.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this is great.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you guys for calling in.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is really fun talking to you It's really interesting getting your take and I love to figure out what you guys are driving Okay, so I clicked call and nothing happened.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, one one one one more second try it again There goes negative put on speaker.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, there we go.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we're calling is the the only calling show where we call you This is Roman and Andre who's this?
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, man, thanks for calling in or I was saying we're the only calling show where we call you Yeah, thank you for calling so what's your question that?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think it's thing, maybe it's more of a suggestion.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you probably get a ton of these and sometimes they crash and burn, but I think one thing that I started to see a little bit when Jen was on the show and get ready to have a baby, I have a family my own, and I think it'd be cool to see more of that flavor of when we're looking at vehicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: How does it work for families rather than that daily drive than like how do we find those cars for car people, but also factory in when this family's involved and I know that doesn't hate your whole audience, but it's been something that was cool for me to see and cool for me to think about when we think about my wife's car and things like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think not otherwise, I mean, I have what.
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved all the content you guys put out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So really appreciate what I think I do.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's you know a really excellent point that you make There was a girl here.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll give you a quick story.
[SPEAKER_05]: There was a girl here in Denver who started a website called Motherproof And basically what she did was she got a lot of young ladies who were kind of in that
[SPEAKER_05]: you know, child-bearing years of their lives to write for her.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're seeing kind of a version of this on TikTok now with all the kind of influencers who are women who are doing car reviews from a female slash mom standpoint.
[SPEAKER_05]: But she was there first and she did very well with it because I think that women by cars differently than men do and I don't want to get it stereotypical here because it's really easy to fall into that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's a different way of purchasing a car.
[SPEAKER_05]: And what she ended up doing was selling that motherproof website to cars.com, which is a huge brawling website.
[SPEAKER_05]: And what they did with it was basically just turned it into, like, how does a car seat fit into a car?
[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought that was a shame because it's more than just, you know, how a car seat fits into a car.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's of course important.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's also all the other things that come with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, right now, what we have in that point of view
[SPEAKER_00]: car person and you have a family your choices you get a mini van or you get a suburban right that's that are some kind of a big asset or do you really truck right yeah no yeah yeah and even throwing in because like for example like I was wanting you know I want my sports card and even picking one of those was like factoring in having two kids and being able to go out of the family so like they really drove me more to the challenger having a bigger back seat and like
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just, it's weird things like that where you're still looking for those cars that are so fun, but it doesn't even, like you said, doesn't just have to be car seats.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can be anything when you're thinking about a family road trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, no, just, you know, even if it's just a part of the assessments, it's everything is helpful.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys do that, you know, especially for people love cars.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, how old are your kids or do you have kids?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're now seven to nine.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, so, so what was your solution to that?
[SPEAKER_05]: What did you get?
[SPEAKER_05]: What card did you?
[SPEAKER_05]: What was your car loving first?
[SPEAKER_05]: What did you get?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always had so I personally drive a ram 1500 so big cab nice for the kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I even take trims that they can even relaunch in the back seat with the layer me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's my daily driver.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then my wife, you know, as much as she's not a car person, she still loves fun cars to drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have to go to Rango this past year and she's been loving it.
[SPEAKER_00]: very nice and you know, take to the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of a combination of the fun car, but enough space for kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you buy a hellcat Durango?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, start team.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun, but that was hard argue because that my third car in the garage is I have a challenge or step hack.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's the fast car.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got the we got the pen star in the Durango.
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look like a Dodge commercial
[SPEAKER_04]: But you have a nice layout, you have a sporty car, you have an SUV, and you have a pickup truck.
[SPEAKER_04]: What else do you need?
[SPEAKER_05]: I would say this, Andre.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think sometimes the ability to be safe and vehicle is not just not getting into accidents, but being able to get out of accidents quickly.
[SPEAKER_05]: So a hell cat Durango would help with that because if you see trouble coming, you can quickly scoot out of the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, that was a joke.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was a joke.
[SPEAKER_05]: But here's something funny.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was listening to this podcast, one of the UK podcast called The Intercooler.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it was this was seen through glass, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: And the guy has a young baby.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he has like a one year old or a two year old.
[SPEAKER_05]: And his solution, get this to your problem is he had a portion 911 GT3 without the back seat.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Without the back seat.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he went and had a back seat retrofitted to his 911.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that he could put the kid in the back.
[SPEAKER_05]: All the money in the world.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we do.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, well, well, well, thank you for calling and thanks for the great question.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll call back on the emergency place when I put the Hellcat to Rango in the garage.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Take care.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if we should be in business giving marriage advice.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think we're really bad at it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that ends the portion of the Colin.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that actually were pretty well.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was amazing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you guys are the best out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for calling in.
[SPEAKER_04]: And also we'll find out.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you could hear, I think you can hear pretty well on the phone call.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, let us know in the comments below if you're listening to this as a podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: If the quality is good enough.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, let us know if you like this call-in format.
[SPEAKER_05]: If this is something you want us to continue because I think that was relatively successful.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's talk about a couple other cars.
[SPEAKER_05]: Before we wrap this up, we've got a few more minutes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he just mentioned that he wanted, you know, Jen and of course Mary who left, unfortunately, she just so you guys know Mary was with us for a year and then she got a job closer to home.
[SPEAKER_05]: She had a long commute, she was coming from Ford
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and she decided that she wanted something closer to her house, and so she got a job at the CSU University University working in their film department.
[SPEAKER_05]: So congratulations Mary.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you're wondering what happened to her, it was just really a question of convenience, which, you know, I applaud.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't move the company for you, Mary.
[SPEAKER_05]: But she drove our long-term Nissan Leaf for I think it was that whole year and we just got it back in a lot of miles and a lot of miles so as you recall we least a leaf when Leafs seemed was good here in Colorado.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was at $9 a month, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so we paid another mean when a lot of those cards are going to be returned, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's that's exactly where I was going to.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you saw it because we had that car for other like six months and then all those cheap ass leases that we got dumped here in Colorado and the reason we got these cheap leases was because the state of Colorado offers additional tax benefits.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... to allow you to sell these things and least these things very cheaply uh... but what's going to happen to that leaf when we return it in six months uh... it's going to appreciate like crazy but it's going to make for a really inexpensive a commuter or be first car for like the student or see a third car for somebody who just needs an around town car don't you think and i think that there's there's all these electric cars that are going to fit into that category
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I mean, we talked about on our track podcast, we talked about Escalade IQ.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, a lot of these SUVs are six digit vehicles, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: 140,000, $150,000 for a lot of these very fancy and capable vehicles, but that's not good enough if you need the commuter, if you need a simple vehicle just to get around town.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so what made...
[SPEAKER_05]: cars explode you can argue that what made cars so popular was the model T was a model T that Ford basically brought that because like like with electric cars regular cars started very expensive they were they were toys they were for the you know very wealthy people and then Ford came along and basically created the assembly line and what he did was democratize
[SPEAKER_05]: mobility using the car which is a car and now what's going to happen is I think all these electric cars that were very expensive are going to come off lease and are going to be actually relatively affordable so people who would normally not consider an electric car and this there's a certain percentage of people who hate the electric car with the burning passion I get that because of politics you know there's been an intersection of electrification and politics I never got that I don't know why something has to be political that's you know a thing
[SPEAKER_05]: But it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the world we live in.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it will make cars affordable.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like I said before, you know, how much electricity do you have at the house unlimited basically?
[SPEAKER_05]: Whereas how much gas do you have?
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to go to the gas station at some point to convenience of electric car, along with its affordability.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we'll get a lot more people driving electric that normally wouldn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's kind of my take on what's going to happen in the next few years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but then we have a couple of comments here in the live chat from Olivia Ear and Jonathan who said the song quality was pretty good decent Maybe that the best and we could also if this was successful I mean we couldn't make the quality better.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we can't yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's not out of the question, of course, we just wanted to try something, and it worked really beautifully.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you know, this is a radio show, you'd have a call screener, and you would put people on hold, you would ask questions, but obviously we don't have, but just it's just call on the two of us sitting here.
[SPEAKER_04]: The call is like juggling several, several things right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: You want to be a call screener call?
[SPEAKER_04]: He says, no, he's happy just to be at it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we can do it if it's really huge.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if it's really working.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all right, so that's still leaf.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then I've got to tell Jen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, Jen's coming back.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jen, baby was born early.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just with Primi.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so she was going to come back originally now, but because the baby was born a month early, she's going to take some more time off and she's going to come back.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully if all goes well next month, so I'm looking forward to her return.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we miss you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the next car I want to talk about was kind of the biggest surprise of the year for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you've been driving this recently, and I told Tommy, I just went to breakfast with him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I told Tommy that I would actually buy this car for my mom or for myself or for my wife with my own money.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is the passport transport.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you think of that car?
[SPEAKER_05]: We've done a bunch of things with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Honda was kind of enough to loan it to us for three months.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was thinking to myself, oh, just another.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, a two row crossover and it's very surprising and I'll give you my take and I'll get yours So first and foremost, I love the look of the thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the color I love I'm a color guy So I love the orange color, but also the headlight pattern with the little U shape that goes around.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's cool I agree it's it's especially the trail sport we're talking about because it's got a little bit more aggressive tires I love the way it looks it's they nailed the look of it
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's hot, it's angry.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the interior is hot.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got this chocolate cupicino interior.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just absolutely beautiful.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was worried that it wouldn't do very well off-road, but it's actually been surprisingly good off-road.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we have another video coming next week where I took it actually with case.
[SPEAKER_04]: We had the Land Cruiser versus Passport.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, stay tuned for that video.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: They knocked the look out of the ballpark and also the engine the power train is pretty good It's a traditional V6.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been in the ridge line forever with an everywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the pilot has it.
[SPEAKER_05]: The only only downside of the engine is it's a little thirsty, but a gas being two bucks a gallon now is
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's not that thirsty.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, from 22 to 24ish MPG, that's not too bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: So two things I don't like about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I say, the fuel economy, especially now with high brids and terrible and all high brids, it's a little, it's a little on the thirsty side, but you're eyes not horrible and I don't like to push button transmission.
[SPEAKER_05]: But outside of that, a car play works like a dream.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: By the way, that was, you know, that Mazurati.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was my favorite thing about it, the car play.
[SPEAKER_05]: It worked.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it worked.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's basically you connect, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Because it's just a Lance's promise.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was supremely surprised at how good off-road the passport is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Given that this one only has like eight inches of ground clearance.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's 0.3.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I thought it would be much worse.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you feel, you know, a special driving it, which is something you can't say about a mid-sized crossover.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a styling.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't look like a
[SPEAKER_04]: but I would not buy it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why is that?
[SPEAKER_05]: What don't you like?
[SPEAKER_04]: We disagree on this point, you and I. I don't like to drive receipt.
[SPEAKER_04]: The driver's seat bottom seems too hard to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just I don't really get comfortable in the driver's seat.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a huge contention with people.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you don't fit in the seat, you don't buy it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't buy the car, yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you like to see it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea what that's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, the reason that we got rid of the Raptor, Ranger Raptor was the suit, you know, like they hoped me in the back right right where my like neck hits my back that little bump there.
[SPEAKER_05]: It just poked me right there and every kind of my drove it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was always like trying to fiddle with myself trying to get the comfortable and you had no issues with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, as much as I love the tune.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I can't sit in the truck and you like to haunt a passport seat and I don't like the bottom cushion Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean Actually this chair.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sitting in this pretty bad too What do you want?
[SPEAKER_05]: I treat you want?
[SPEAKER_05]: I want the lazy boy you want it you want a call screen there you want it on hold feature I want the lazy boy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you want a better chair?
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, the good news is that we are trading it, Tommy's going to California, so we are going to be getting a ridge line to replace it, which is great.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a really good news, especially since we've purchased a first generation ridge line as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so by the way, those two were not really super planned out.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we just saw kind of a really, really interesting first generation ridge line.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Hondo was kind of enough to actually loan us.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the other thing I wanted to talk about was an nasty surprise.
[SPEAKER_05]: So as you know, if you guys don't know, I recently purchased or the company recently purchased 997 Porsche 911.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the kind of the Holy Grail for Porsche for some reason, you know how, like, if you're a watch guy, and I'm kind of becoming a watch guy because my wife bought me a watch.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was an ample watch guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: But my wife found me, she bought me a nice watch, it's called the, I can't think of the name right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a two-door.
[SPEAKER_05]: A two-door, yeah, two-door, which is like the budget Rolex.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: But not a four-door.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, a two-door.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pepsi.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really found it, it was a used one.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really found it with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if that's the watch, it's popular watch with Pepsi is the popular watch, it's gotten very popular.
[SPEAKER_05]: Basically, it's got that little ring around it and the top is like the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue and the blue
[SPEAKER_05]: So, if you watched the video, I did a video saying everything that's wrong with my 9-11.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there were basically like five things wrong with that I paid.
[SPEAKER_05]: We paid $35,000 for it at a haggardy auction and the reason it was relatively inexpensive, especially for a 9-9-7, which has become the 9-11 Duke, Desjure.
[SPEAKER_05]: for a lot of Porsche Fishingados was because it was on the auction, but they had no paperwork.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if it doesn't have a replaced IMS or if you don't know that there's no borescoring, it makes it an industry replacement potentially.
[SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of people are afraid of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, after the auction ended, I was the highest bidder at like 29,000, and Hagrid Eeking back and said, hey, we'll
[SPEAKER_05]: will sell it to you for 35 with fees and here's two inches of paperwork showing you all the work that was done on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it had the IMS replaced, they did a compression testing, compression was good if you have board scoring usually, that's an indication of a bad compression and this one had good compression.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I felt comfortable with those two major issues.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I talked to the guy and he said, yeah, it's a car, the integrity guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: He said, it's a car I'd be willing to buy, it's in great shape.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it shows up and immediately, like immediately, I go to use a squirters on the squirters don't work.
[SPEAKER_05]: The passenger seat, when you move it back and forth, it doesn't go back and forth.
[SPEAKER_05]: It goes left and right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So one of the motors or something is stuck.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's not going back and forth.
[SPEAKER_05]: The heated seats don't work.
[SPEAKER_05]: The little controls for the garage door opening don't work.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the window goes past your window goes down, but not up.
[SPEAKER_05]: So five things.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those are kind of minor issues, but still issues.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a car shifts well, drives well.
[SPEAKER_05]: We haven't done any bore scoring checks.
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to do like a computer camera in there and you check for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's like a $1,000 thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I take it to a local...
[SPEAKER_05]: Repair shop here that I know and they set me back a very very detailed description of everything that is wrong with it with pictures How much you think that came back at?
[SPEAKER_05]: To repair it all everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cold you know that number?
[SPEAKER_05]: Just colonel that number.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I put a I put a side 5,000 for repairs Close, he said 20 your close.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is including the window everything else
[SPEAKER_04]: You paid $35 for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I put aside $5, 15, 18, 18, $18,000 to do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everything that's wrong with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they found a lot more wrong with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So for instance, the radiator's leaking, the suspension is completely original to the car.
[SPEAKER_05]: The tires are bald in places.
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are easy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those are easy.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a crack in the manifold.
[SPEAKER_05]: You and I can replace the tires.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we're going to replace those.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those we can do.
[SPEAKER_05]: or manifold, or bushing or replace suspension, so they want to take you to take the bank.
[SPEAKER_05]: In one of 18,000, a $35,000 car, that's not happening.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, so I said, I said, thanks to Squirty thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Fixed a window, so it goes up, but it's cold.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the car has two buttons.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I thought the reason that the two buttons for the heated C student work is that when you have a Porsche of that generation, the computer sometimes forgets what features came with the car.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so if the battery goes dead, and then you don't do the hand-off to the new battery while keeping the power on the computer may forget that the car has heated seats.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I thought it was that, but they said that there are actually no connections for heated seats under the seats.
[SPEAKER_05]: So as if the car has no heated seats, like the seats don't have heaters in them.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's got replaced or something wrong seats.
[SPEAKER_05]: So maybe the computer was replaced or maybe the seats were replaced, but there is no.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I can't imagine the Porsche would put heated seat buttons, but not the wires.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not the not the wires.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that still remains a complete mystery.
[SPEAKER_04]: maybe this is where it plays by previous owner so I said I said fix like the five things okay I would just say the same thing because I mean this is not yeah also for $18,000 Roman you could buy four rich lines yes for $4,000 a piece that we just bought yes yes so that's a lot of we've had this bell change did you figure that yes it has a timing belt changed which is great
[SPEAKER_05]: uh yes so uh that was that was kind of an ask to surprise so we just had a caller who bought a cayenne yeah twenty nineteen yeah so congratulations on getting the extended one but yes i didn't want you on the phone this story but that's what i thought of when you said you bought a cayenne and hopefully uh you don't have eighteen thousand dollars of bill but you do your her well yes extended warranty
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so, yeah, we're going to do about 4,000 that we're going to talk to our friends.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, uh, I should get dressed on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe and get, uh, hopefully he was alive.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe his wife was okay with the cayenne, because he thought about the extended warranty, and she appreciated that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe that's what happened.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think he can get an extended warranty in 2005, 9, 11, 9, 9, 7,
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not even sure that it doesn't even grain your warranty can do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not even grain your... And I'm not even sure that it does have...
[SPEAKER_05]: Doesn't have bore scoring or...
[SPEAKER_05]: I know that I am SSB replaced, so I'm good with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I'm not sure about that MS. Any comments there?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, our friend who called in with the Hummer H1 says that his Hummer repair bill is about 15k.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it is a pretty bad soundtrack.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's also the engine problem.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the timing gear explosion.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's basically a new engine probably.
[SPEAKER_04]: Could be.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, thanks for calling by the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anything else in the other comments?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, before you wrap this up?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, so some people said, oh, it was a six year and a hundred mile, hundred thousand mile.
[SPEAKER_04]: extended warranty in the cayenne.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're covered.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they said quality of the, well, we consider the zoom call, by the way, somebody's talking about zoom, but, but I think, I mean, if we can patch people in on the phone, zoom, you could have multiple people I suppose.
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess you could.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess you could.
[SPEAKER_05]: So maybe that's the next.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we'll think about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a great.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a great suggestion.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who is that?
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have my glasses on.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I can't see.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think nothing to see here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing to see here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for suggesting that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's not a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: But then you got to send out the invites.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, which we can do, which we can do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but thank you for joining us here.
[SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, the portion is at the dealership.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to talk to our friends about getting new tires and we're going to do some, I think this is a good opportunity to do a tire review, comparison, comparison, so we will do some testing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then before we wrap this up, one last thing, we had talked about this on the phone.
[SPEAKER_05]: So as we said, whoever asked us the question about what trends, we're going to be doing a new video series.
[SPEAKER_05]: baseline challenge and you want to tell what that is Andre because this is this goes right to that question.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this is a test to figure out which is the best plug-in hybrid by distance right because plug-in hybrids have slightly bigger batteries than normal hybrids actually a lot bigger batteries and some of them go 20 miles on a charge, some of them go 30, some 40, we want to see how far
[SPEAKER_04]: falls a 40th parallel exactly exactly so it's exactly straight and it's also straight road that we can go out and back on so and test it out.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so just like a lap record we're going to get the plug and hybrids we're going to charge them up at the office we're going to take into base line.
[SPEAKER_05]: and we're going to measure just how far we can go on one charge and then we're going to set like a like a lap time.
[SPEAKER_05]: In other words, this car, a distance, this setting.
[SPEAKER_05]: When 20 miles, this one 30 miles and we're going to have a crown of champion, whatever one can go the far of this before the engine kicks in.
[SPEAKER_05]: So stay tuned for that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we're going to do that over at TFL EV.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll have two series running coal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Cole, why are you calling him out, calling him out, we have hands free 2000, which Cole is working on.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we're discussing at the meeting this morning, were you thinking that that might be your series, Cole, he didn't think so, he didn't think so, he didn't think so, he didn't think so, he wanted to be your series, Cole, no, he, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll give it to somebody else.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, we'll give it to one of the other guys Cole has got his hands full with the new call and show I've knew things here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's also the screener now.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a screener It in charges setting up now zoom calls.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right guys.
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