[SPEAKER_01]: what is up everybody welcome to the stack on Alex I'm Justin I'm Pete and on the stack we talk about a bunch of books that have come out this week and this is the first stack of the new year so in this a stack kick it off with a big one literally it's got the big guy isn't it's the stack stack in your backpack let's go
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely Patman, ArcM special number one from DC Comics, where it by Scott Snyder and Frank Teary, art by Joshua Hickson, and before we get into it, I am just going to give a blanket spoiler warning here for every single book that we talk about in the stack.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just beware of spoilers.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are all on stands now.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is what we're learning.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a quilt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Different things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Slightly different things.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all different.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how, but they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a one shot set in the world of absolute Batman, focusing on the title on the origins of Ark M, which is a facility, a jail and laboratory right off the coast of Gotham,
[SPEAKER_01]: and in multiple other locations around the world, there's different arcs.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we are going back in time here to focus on Arkham asylum and interestingly, getting a yet another riff on the origin of the absolute Joker, pivoting off of absolute Batman number 15, which kind of gave the origin of the Joker in a couple of different iterations.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're adding even more information there.
[SPEAKER_01]: leading to some surprise railing reveals at the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you guys think about this one shot?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first off, epic cover alert.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is just absolutely badass.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big Batman.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big Batman of lurking over arc M. There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: it's uh... it's uh... it's beef Batman which is great uh... yeah this is just uh... really awesome i was really impressed with this story the only the downside is Batman wasn't really in it but uh... you know it was still in such a history
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, Justin, what was that?
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets direct some shot near the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I didn't the Andy comes in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, this was just really cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a great use of a one shot to kind of explore this absolute kind of world in this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I definitely thought it was worth the time and energy for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this year, we are light on time and energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, penis, conserving everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is actually good time to bring up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be judging every comic in the stack for now on an efficiency scale.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and any of that fall behold, the threshold is done.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: No thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of us is a, in 2026, one of us is a bad AI model.
[SPEAKER_02]: See if I can pick which one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I dare you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Arkham stories, anytime they come up, because it's always something.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm stories or Arkham stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about all Arkham asylum-based where you get the history of the family, because the family's always like one person who's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm normal guy who want to open and stay in asylum and keep it going for my legacy in life.
[SPEAKER_02]: This one fucked up thing happened and it's like cuts to, like, some murdering their entire family constantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, at any way, I'm normal, except for this part of my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we get a lot of that story here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's well told.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the art is sort of, uh, Frank of via S, uh, you could say.
[SPEAKER_02]: by Joshua Hickson, if that gives you a reference.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just to jump in there, Joshua Hickson did the incredible art on the deviant with James time on the floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: This feels like a very different style here, which I was surprised by.
[SPEAKER_01]: Much brighter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It still has that sort of like horror in its bones, tone to it, but there is, there's just more light, I think, across all the panels, so it doesn't feel quite as horrifying.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the villain set up at the end of this has been teased and I got to say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's well, I like the twist here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the twist here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was surprised by this because like I was intimidating towards the beginning, we've got this
[SPEAKER_01]: And my impression was was, oh, this is going to be the origin of our camp, but to get very heavily in spoilers, they do jump back to the 1800s all the way through 1945 to show, here's the development of Arkham Asylum at the end result is, well, they bird down Arkham Asylum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dot dot dot, now there's these facilities.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: As a dark arc of a siloed story, very cool, Scott Snyder-fragged area, of course, no-a-thru to egg, like we talked about, Jonathan Hickson's art is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just surprised that we get like zero origin in terms of arc and itself, like how one thing got to another, but maybe there's an arc and special number two in our future.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm like you said, this is sort of a secret Joker origin, essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, I like how subtly it was played here because there's a nice, a little journey we go on to that story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I thought, I know you thought the age of Revelation was over, but not quite yet, because it is time for X-Men number 23 from Marvel, written by Jen McKay, art by Tony S. Daniel.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is an age of Revelation epilogue if you have been reading along over the past couple of months with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know that Scott Summers for the present had his mind taken to the future, while his future self was set to the past, he just got back to the present at the end of the age of Revelation
[SPEAKER_01]: and found his future self is really muckin' stuff up here for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where we get to see in this issue as we rewind in time and see what went down with the cyclops of the past leading up to a couple of cliffhangers at the end here.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you guys think about this issue?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were kind of like hot and cold about age of revelation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, you're raising your hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd just like to jump in and kind of start things off here a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Scott is the fucking worst dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what's even worse than Scott is future Scott is even worse than their normal Scott.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is just to kill one guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very Scott.
[SPEAKER_01]: it's the classic would you go back in time and kill Hitler if he was a little bit older and like maybe you know it's like pee for anybody it doesn't frequently listen to the show he hates this scenario because he loves Hitler go ahead because he does bring it up a lot but we don't know that pee would go back and watch Ghostbusters in the theater
[SPEAKER_02]: If you had a time issue, yeah, I'd kill baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd kill baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two tickets from this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe Hitler.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, peak kills baby Hitler's for breakfast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, no problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go on murder, uh, baby Hitler and between Matt Nays, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Get some popcorn, go right back.
[SPEAKER_00]: In between, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess if you're private jet, right, fly it from left coast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's nothing more lucrative than being a baby hitler killer.
[SPEAKER_01]: According to me, uh, you guys are the one industry that's growing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the only one here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't take away that job.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys love this, I, I'm the only one who doesn't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the actual content of the book, Justin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't enjoy this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, this is the kind of thing that I feel like could have been more of a spine to the revelation event if we were seeing this future Scott and we're, because it's just all held in this single issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is just like, very much like I'm killing revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm killing revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's his one thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: wish we got to see a little bit more of him over time be like oh this is what it used to be like and have a little like you know war battleground nostalgia for like a time before the age revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well we are also seeing Pascal in the age of revelation trying to figure out what's going on there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish we had more space to tell the story.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just wanted to kind of ask you a couple questions about why you like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like if a future me showed up and was just saying all sorts of crazy And he just was like, I'm so sorry for everything I've done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't sound like me.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that it'll be a different you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, I'm just saying that the LePage of Revelation is what I'm looking forward to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are we doing this here?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like we just had another beast.
[SPEAKER_00]: We just dealt like why are we having a love of empathy?
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to say I thought this story overall with some exceptions was more interesting than most of what we got an age of revelation for the reasons that Justin is saying we got
[SPEAKER_01]: we start off with like Scott has this incredible plan where he's like I've marked it down to the second I know exactly where everybody's gonna be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember it perfectly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, peace.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's kill up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's kill up except we know that the wrong beast got set forward so the beast is still there.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Chris up his plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a cool move.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's a cool scene to have at the beginning there.
[SPEAKER_01]: To your point Justin, I think
[SPEAKER_01]: there could have been more philosophical debate because the more most interesting thing to be in this book was when Doug Ramsey who was the person he's cut back in time to kill is like just talk to me tell me what went wrong so we can make it better together and this future Scott is like no I'm going to kill you you're like fuck you man this is how it starts yeah you think you can change and you better think
[SPEAKER_01]: it's a real bummer to me is then at the end of the issue, Doug being like, well, guess I got an age of revelations, I'm just wondering how do I go out and I'm like, oh, come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is, that it's frustrating though, because it's, you know, like all this revelation guy is so badass and so evil, yet all we do is deal with other things and we don't pass that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the, I'm talking about this issue and the present, the revelation
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is an interesting idea in terms of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is revelations.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's still revelations.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is revelations.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's definitely not what Pete needs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's exactly what I mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have this character and we don't get to know anything about him ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this just drives me nuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's supposed to be whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like, yes, peace.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is still talking about the future version of Revelation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not Doug Rabs of you is currently in the present.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think about this, that the Terminator idea of like, can you change your future, particularly if you travel back to the past, is perennially interesting and they start to deal with this in this issue, but because they simply have to move on to other things, they ditch it by the end to be like, no way of preventing this, this is just going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: When veering off in a different path, when they've already applied, there is a different path happening with
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever is going on with Magdito, which is very confusing, is more interesting to me, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and it's two things are interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want I would post back to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: This new era is called Shadows of Tomorrow, which implies like the age of Revelation is going to be important.
[SPEAKER_02]: Going forward, that's casting the shadow of what's coming, I believe, is what the title is meant to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, do you think that, like, at the end of this issue of slight spoiler, Doug, Bay and Warlock, go off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we going to be checking in with them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is the age of revelation going to be a big part of what's going forward?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or are we just going to stare at a pop-off and we're not going to see them for a while?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know, but I think prediction prediction, I think they will disappear for a while and then come back where he's moved further along to Brode to being revelation while we also get 3K is developing the X virus and the big question is whether they will actually continue up to the point of this could become the age of revelation, but things changed so frequently in comics who knows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do want to agree with Justin that I think shadows of tomorrow is a cool name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here it go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's see what we think about the next name of the next title, which is the Nightmare Before Christmas.
[SPEAKER_01]: The shiver of Christmas Town.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dynamite.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rin by Torin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chromeback.
[SPEAKER_01]: Art by Edu Menna.
[SPEAKER_01]: This takes place after the events of Nightmare Before Christmas.
[SPEAKER_01]: And focuses on another Halloween, where they're trying to bring Halloween to Christmas town.
[SPEAKER_01]: They create a durable bear who loves to eat candy and eat sugar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shimmer Lock, Shock, and Barrel decide to kidnap, of course, and things go heartily wrong with a reconstitute Oogie Boogie from there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely a big nightmare before Christmas pad on the podcast, and I would say I think turn Colonel Beck perfectly captured the tone of the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some almost rhyming narration or poetic narration that goes throughout that I thought really sounds like the movie
[SPEAKER_01]: The characters are good, and I thought the art was really nice as well, and I do really enjoy this new character shiver.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're a fan of the movie, I think this is a fun one to hand the kids in your life.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Edu Menna Art is a good job of translating the sort of dark tone of the movie, dark windboat still whimsical tone into the comic book world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just, I think the arts phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is very cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shiver the bear is my favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you're favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a great vibe to the art that I think kind of does a good job of.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel like the movie come to life, but it has a similar vibe in a cool way and it feels fresh and new, which is exciting and still a part of the original piece.
[SPEAKER_02]: If he's okay, Boogie's such a supervillain is my question.
[SPEAKER_02]: The reveal at the end, I was like, what's the plan?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's just a big bag.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a bag of bugs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what's the plan?
[SPEAKER_02]: New plan seems the old plan just be, be a problem?
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what a bad problem is.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the last thing is, I watched it every Halloween with my family.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oogie Boogie does not have much of a plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I've said.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sugar water is probably what Oogie Boogie Boogie's sugar water.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will also throw out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a lovely chat with Toran over at Baltimore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Comic Con a few months back where we talked about the challenges of working within the guidelines that Disney gives you for a title like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So definitely go back and get that a list and now that it's actually out.
[SPEAKER_01]: because I think it's very eliminating.
[SPEAKER_01]: She talks a little bit about some of the stuff she wanted to do, but could not do, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, there it comes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That man, number five from DC Comics Written by Matt Praction, Art by Jorge Amenez.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is date nights sort of for that man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a doctor scientist that he is trying to recruit while she scientists.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doctors, scientists, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like one of those, doctor scientists from comics.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: and say you see sort of a shade character.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's a little bit of a shade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest, she is being pursued by various assassins and Batman in his Bruce Wade guys needs to protect her the entire time leading to a surprising moment to the end there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this issue was a ton of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: What about you guys?
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is just a running gun Batman story.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels so different from a lot of the Batman runs we've had.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a while here, I like featuring this Dr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Scientist character.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she and Bruce are having a nice date, despite their sort of a date.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a date, even though they both agree at a point that it is a date.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, great review on our last date of what they were great car chase stuff great just great Bruce Wayne issue with Bruce being a person and not being that man without the right close on
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a blast, a really cool cover, sets an awesome tone for the insides.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think this is just a really bad ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe a new love interest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Woo hoo.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, great action.
[SPEAKER_00]: Non-stop, very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I literally recommend that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also think your face, it's an awesome tone for the insides.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I don't know how to feel about that, but all right, thanks.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's complimenting your guts, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Take it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great guts.
[SPEAKER_02]: My guy's got great guts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing spider bad number 19 from Marvel Written by Joe Kelly, art by Pepe Lovaraz, space spider man wants to head home, and he needs his new space friends to help him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But unfortunately, Helgate, the man who beat him within an inch of his life,
[SPEAKER_01]: is in his way leading to a confrontation at the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you guys think about this one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, let's go to you first.
[SPEAKER_02]: I great call going to me first.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That hurt.
[SPEAKER_00]: That hurt a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, no, Pete was had his hand up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The words literally coming out of his hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you'll have to wait for that verbal diarrhea one more second.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoy this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this run.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Spidey in space.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this cast of characters around him and let me tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this sort of romance happening between him and Rayleth.
[SPEAKER_02]: This alien from the same world as Helgate.
[SPEAKER_02]: A great way to connect these characters in a way that we I didn't see coming when we first met them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Spidey was just running for his life from Hellgate, putting Peter in such a strange place but being so true to the Peter Parker core.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hard task and I feel like Joe Kelly has really nailed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was surprised how much I enjoyed this issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ice cream bit was a stericle Very much enjoyed that Day No, not a date.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not a date.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not a similar energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I've never seen something called a romcom which is sure for romantic comedy No, I haven't like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen these issues none of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen every single one of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: No way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never seen none of them
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that, you know, she made a very specific, like, hey, you know, I don't love you, but, you know, I, I like I appreciate you and I love you, but it's not like we're in love.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never heard in a Ramka.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that was a clear line in the sand.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, but other than that, this is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let me ask you, from the period, it's funny to me that you, obviously you have a real chip on your entire body about Pete and MJ.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but this is good rom-com work that's being done here in the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to respect the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying my best to resist it, you know what I mean, they're talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: I stop resisting, stop resisting, let the be a part of the meek you.
[SPEAKER_02]: There any show please, this is, this is a meek you, you need to be the peek you and be a part of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, I, you can't cheat on MJ, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like let's take it back.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's, she's taking it back.
[SPEAKER_01]: But she's not as we're going to be talking about it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with what you guys are saying the romance is hot in this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is laugh out loud funny throughout the stuff with Helgate is great and shut up to pepper the roses are there's a couple of panels here where like where Helgate is standing in front of this portal is very ominous there's a page towards the end where
[SPEAKER_01]: Rayleth, this letter name is reaching out for a Spider-Man and saying, give me your hand that's just like so impactful.
[SPEAKER_01]: It means so much when you see that and that comes through almost entirely because of the art.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great book.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of the best Spider-Man runs I've read in a very, very long time, so very excited about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They spend a lot of time approaching hammock passion.
[SPEAKER_02]: The best idea for a date, but in practice, very difficult, I would argue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Godzilla, number six, for Mighty W, written by Tim Seely, art by Nikola Sismedia.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the final battle between Godzilla and the boy with Godzilla powers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a big spoiler for the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: He kills Godzilla.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the end of God's eyes at the end of this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Godzilla energy goes into the kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason RIP.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the only part I didn't like.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, like I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty well those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the next issue with the red cond, you know, it's permanent.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's permanent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't buy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But do you ride a lizard for a pet pee?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't say that I have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to say big idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting you for Christmas.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you were getting towards, we used to have Nudes' pet and they would always crawl out of the tank into the ventilation system and dry out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of what happens to Godzilla here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Godzilla definitely.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knew it's himself here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't happen to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought this was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the action, touching ending there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can face whatever, together.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a beautiful statement.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just don't think that Godzilla really died at the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm lying to myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's turned into just a juice.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's energy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just out of curiosity, Pete, you love letters pages, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember that correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you flip from the last page for Gotzilla dies to the letters page?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm immediately following that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did look at the letter space.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did read all of the letters in the letters page, OK?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be something you want to look at if you're curious about what's going to happen to Gotzilla Daxton if he's really dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess we can kind of move on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll call it messy about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to pay a compliment to this team here in that, you know, Godzilla, you expect to just see him like breathing his nuclear fire or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to build an ensemble that like, I really liked the characters and the story we get in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a nice emotion to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really am pulling for all of them in this world at their different areas and Godzilla actually becomes sort of the least important character, which I'm always down for.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you shouldn't say that when you're reading the Godzilla book.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was he was 20 25s mad at the air.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've moved on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's 20 days.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you sure?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see a mother's page in this issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you thinking of the Godzilla Teaspoon Ninja Turtles?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about the next page where they say Godzilla is coming back and a brand new energy for the next issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's all new all energy all rage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, that's the, that's the favorite words.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just crazy to me that you were like, well, I'm done with the issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not looking at this next picture of Godzilla.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right next to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he'll be back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Godzilla somehow will return.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely superman number 15 from DC Comics, written by Jason Aaron, art by Juan Ferraro.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the team supreme from today's new journals back together with Superman after the battle of the Kansas.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is now flying all over the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really truly trying to be a hero in a more active way, living on the Kent farm at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: But be while there's a big bad villain stuff,
[SPEAKER_01]: That's always that and next issue next issue if you flip to the letters page P you would see squirrel nut sippers A cup of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just take it away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do love this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been banging on the drum for this title, which I think is underrepresented in the compliment circle that is the absolute universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really just love the characterization here and the way that Jason Aeron has snuck up on.
[SPEAKER_02]: the superman origin or the superman must have when it comes to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a sort of teen or a young man at least on the Kent farm, but the Kent's aren't there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's still doing the things that he has done in the main universe when he was this age living in smallville, but they're all fucked up because it's the absolute universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get a surprise reveal of a hero slash villain that's coming down the pipeline Little nods to perhaps a relationship a changing relationship with lowest lane like it's all great stuff and it's It has this era of dread that I think epitomizes the vibe of the absolute universe even above all the other excellent books in the line
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I mean, uh, I think this is cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: The cape thing is a little weird with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: The, I miss the cape.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the cape.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you like this cape.
[SPEAKER_00]: The, it can be anything you want cape.
[SPEAKER_00]: The kind of spawn cape, if you will.
[SPEAKER_02]: I miss it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't, it doesn't have a personality anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I miss all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, or soul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's just how you say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think that is all soul.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: The cape thing pulls me out a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, even this cover here looks great.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like the capes are just, it's not, it's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's too much movement.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's just a great sequence where he's talking to Rayshoggle.
[SPEAKER_02]: He sort of reforms Rayshoggle as he's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, aging and not able to get into the Lazarus pit that it was though there was just an ingenious sequence to have here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I that I wanted to give a shout out to one for era on the art just works absolutely great with Jason Aaron, but there are so many different settings and so many different looks here.
[SPEAKER_01]: multiple stages of his life.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say, I was a little disappointed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this is nothing about the book.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought that as racial school aged from his like Hulking Vendal Savage form, that he would become like skinny racial school that we know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just became an old man.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought it was really bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like Superman reforming him and working on him and working on him and trying to get through to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a lovely issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really well done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimate Wolverine number 13 from Marvel Written by Chris Condon, art by Dometica Carbone.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is
[SPEAKER_01]: tying in sort of to ultimate endgame as the world is falling apart with the maker coming back sort of TBDC of the endgame for more on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Wolverine Manuel is trying to help Gene Gray heal and we're also getting a origin of ultimate Eliana Rasputin aka magic at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus we get to see ultimate Wolverine fight a bear.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ursula.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is just great.
[SPEAKER_00]: The, um, the bear fight to see which.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ursula major is the Ursula.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, major is the giant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ursula.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ursula major.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or maybe he won't be sure, but it's just or so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just just a major, but he does know the importance of body language.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does just place under to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the sewers.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not under to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's like kind of a sea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I consider this sewers to be part of the sea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when I go for the beach, I'm usually going under ground into the sewers.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go to the sewers first.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you get out to the beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been seeing, you know, I live in New York, uh, Pete, and there's a lot of rats on the subway, and I've been, when I see one, I do a little karate, see the, like, just see, see the same thing to like, be like, oh, yes, because I, I want to splinter, you know, I want to find a, I want to find a disgusting rat, train it to in karate, and then have it also become my careful, what you wish for, my friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, getting back to this book.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the art.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the action.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also like the dark colors I feel like it was such a cool tone and look to this issue that I wanted to just highlight absolutely fantastic because it was a fun-ish
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like the way this PIVITs a lot, I mean the backstory here is the last issue of this was originally meant to be the last issue of the series and then Marvel was like hey Chris can you do more this is a wildly popular great book and you feel the PIVIT here there's a pacing change as we're sort of turning the story in another direction, I really like that direction and it's rare to see a book actually take that time.
[SPEAKER_02]: to, like, slow down for a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: We see you will ranges Rex and shit as we're becoming accustomed to this being a magic-focused villain, perhaps villain at the core of this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Carmen Redclaw, belly of the beast, number one from Dark Horse Comics, written by Mike Mindyol and Ray Allen, Art by Ray Allen.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a weird Western set in the universe of Hellboy, tying kind of two lobster johns and particularly as this bounty hunter travels throughout the west with a dark, demon lizard odder shoulder.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had encounters, some beasties and a goolees throughout.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a lot of fun, I really like the art here, and I thought this was a surprising, very different corner of the Hellboy universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you guys think?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the art.
[SPEAKER_00]: The lizard was fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: The baby really creeped me out.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do a good job of having it be like Cartoonie, but also creepy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a fun line they walk.
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you're unable to find a new hellboy type character basically anywhere in the world, this guy's got, he's like a magic, creating a new hellboy style person and our carbon red clies is really very much like him.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got this ghost lizard riding shotgun with her.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of dread, sort of friendly dread in the air in this first issue and something I'd like to keep up with.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do one of those specifically give a shout out to Ray Allen, because I believe she specifically designed this character even more than Mike and Yola, but I hear what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: It fits like it slots right into the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Green Latter number 10 from TC Comics written by Al Ewing, art by Sid Codian, Joe Mullen, has been shot by Goldface and is lying dead on the floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we pick up the not dead injured on the floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: as she tries to figure out how to fight back against Goldface when Gold is the only thing she's weak against meanwhile we get another new potential villain maybe ally we don't know by the end of the issue what do you guys think about this this was fun it was great to see Joe punching golden balls you know getting her powers back so this was a blast I really love the art
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, the old gold member got when he was had come in there, a great art tons of action.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was a cool story.
[SPEAKER_02]: How you can keep being able to find new little ways to make this weird and different while just keeping these like Joe's journey and emotions at the center of the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like this villain sort of like, we don't know much about them except that they're a goal all gold all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sounds familiar.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Joe's really becoming such a great hero in the absolute universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up, my apologies.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize we're doing al-U-Aq back to back, but then I'll do it for D3 from Marvel, written by al-U-Aq, art by Carlos Gomez.
[SPEAKER_01]: This issue Madame mask is making your moves coming directly for Mary Jane and Vettum.
[SPEAKER_01]: and she and they just got to deal with it as best as they possibly can working with Paul in particular who is a strange just for a very jaded trying to find a place of his own.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is the funniest book on the stats like this is
[SPEAKER_01]: I would readjustly, ridiculously, laugh out loud, funny throughout, and it's just like, Bob, Bob, Bob with the jokes, nod, stop the entire time.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing with Paul, trying to make an example of what we know is Fred's, but he gets it all wrong, and then Dylan Brockby, like, oh, right, you come for another dimension.
[SPEAKER_01]: I totally forgot about that, and then they just keep going with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a great issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also like the fact that, you know, MJ's putting a dude in the front zone, so we're not the worry about Paul anymore, it makes me very happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but fun stuff, you know, venom is bugged by Matt a mask and that whole kind of life figure in that out is fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I enjoyed this more than I thought I would.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you, Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is one of the funniest books on the stands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Each scene is funny in a different way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a great sitcom, like they're finding a way to just have comedy woven in here to also great super-errogues.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just love Mary Jane as Venom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think it just works so hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that Al's able to balance that tone is excellent, I think the art is really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the surprises here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The AIM goofs are very funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: And even just like the first three pages that are just funny murders of different villains that we've never seen before.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought was really well done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to ask you, I'm the Paul tip.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen the casting rumors surrounding a character playing Paul in the upcoming Spider-Man?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really worried about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Paul makes it jump to the silver screen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think when safety is also going to be in the next by your man, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe she's also going to be Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody that they cast from now on is going to be playing Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that's correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Paul by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to throw it out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: The funny this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Letting Paul be the absolute sad sack worst is so funny at every single point.
[SPEAKER_01]: The repeated pleading of him to be like, please just act better when we're trying to pretend because he was listening to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a part new apartment that's also terrible blown up is funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we talked to all about this back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Comic Con.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is what he was referring to because he's like, yeah, things are going to get worse for Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to finish this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a meta thing to write a character that is hated, but make it to know that and write toward it and make it funny and self-referentially bad for him is so hard to do and it's done well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to jump in on some of you said earlier.
[SPEAKER_00]: MJ is venom is so enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_00]: At first, I was like, what the fuck when this first happened, but this is really one me over.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been such a cool thing for MJ.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I've been really enjoying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I didn't, I was a little weirded out by this issue was the boobs cover, where you just got like, full on boobs for some reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: So other than that, I think you paid extra for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy we're talking about this right now like I'm just getting the script for the new Spider-Man movie and a lot of it is just just Peter Just hyping up Paul so that he and Mary Jane gets together Because Mary Jane doesn't know if you don't know if you remember Mary Jane doesn't know Peter at the end of the movie
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't remember it was the whole ruin the whole fucking movie for me How the whole movie takes place in the diner and it's him being like you got it
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, uh, I'm, yeah, I'll just say the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, hi, I'm Sadie Singh from Stranger Things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I show that everybody uniformly loved, particularly at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you should check out this guy, Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should date him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And let the end of the movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: That whole sentence just made me an angry that you said they're, they're married.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could say that about a lot of senses on this podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and weird, this is, I mean, it's crazy that they're giving away the entire script, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe MJ, the character in Spider-Man brand New Day is like, I just want to break character right now and say, I'm Zendaya, and I'm breaking up with Tom Holland to marry the fictional character of Paul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the marry actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just what I thought it couldn't get worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't write this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just want to watch it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Archie vs. Biden.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk straight or things later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on our Patreon podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Patreon.com slash comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can archaive versus minor threats number four from Dark Horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Oswald and Jordan Bloom and Timmy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He art by Scott Koblish is the final part of this crossover.
[SPEAKER_01]: All of the archi characters have become super villains and all the super villains of Biter threats have become archi comics characters and they just got to figure this mess out by the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I really loved about the series beyond everything being very enjoyable and hitting all the tropes you'd expect is the way they managed to wrap this up to reveal some surprisingly emotional information about playtime, our main character for the binder threats universe, really hit me towards the end here and a way that I was not expecting.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the joy of minor threats that they come up with these fun high concepts.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then slowly under the surface are like, oh, by the way, we're going to hit you with this
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what they do here too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about that a lot and how they work editorially in the minor threats universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, do they just have like a doc or a whiteboard where it's like, playtime is fucked up in this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it has to, you have to infuse that into every story because they do in a way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even beyond that, there's commentary about the archie characters here, and a way that is poignant, even though these are characters we've known for, our entire lives, essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, finding new poignancy here, teaming them up with unlikely partners in the minor threats of villains.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really great.
[SPEAKER_02]: The minor threats is taking so many risks and telling some great stories at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: yeah i was really blown away by this book it's hysterical it's such a great use of all these characters the arts unbelievable it's got such a great tone to the art it's just a great great great comic uh sale on miss absolutely hysterical and uh taking care of business so i had a blast
[SPEAKER_01]: DCKO, night fight, number three from DC Comics, written by Joshua Williamson, art by Dan Mora Batman has been taken out of the main DCKO competition, and is forced to fight a bunch of Robbins who have become better Batman than he ever became.
[SPEAKER_01]: This issue, he takes some different texts.
[SPEAKER_01]: with the Batman of Robins and tries different techniques, which the heart of apocalypse really doesn't like.
[SPEAKER_01]: The heart of apocalypse wants to see a fight and kill his Robins and Batman just keeps figuring out otherwise around it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love how they're running through the series.
[SPEAKER_01]: It could just be a series of escalating fights, but of course Batman thinking his way out of the proud of my thought is really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a pretty strong intubation here that Batman may work his way back into the tournament, which is going to be another big change to everything that this is going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: So cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this crossover.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this crossover continues to be a ton of fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting, I was a little confused about who was fighting, who a little bit, but man, this is a blast, and Love the kind of history and everything they were talking about in here fun pace to this, but yeah, it gets it does such a great job of Building to the kind of the big battle that's coming in such a cool way
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with all of that, the surprising ways that all of these fights took place in this issue, I thought was good, especially in an event that is about fights being interesting and weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue found a way to one up that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to talk about the end, and so I am going to spoil the last page.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a grown-up Damian Wayne says to Batman, much older Batman.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is your grandson.
[SPEAKER_02]: His name is Alfred.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they're raising their own butter?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great way to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a home from Butler, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the best way to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fucked up to have a kid be like, you're going to be mine, Butler.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why else would you have a kid?
[SPEAKER_01]: I had two kids, my daughter and my son, and we only had my son so I can have a Butler.
[SPEAKER_02]: Smart.
[SPEAKER_00]: How's that going to get a little Butler?
[SPEAKER_00]: And your wife gets a Butler as well, you're saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: a house made if you will.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're very generous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry we've been watching a lot of gilded age.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that did quite work for me about that moment is
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a simulation of Damian Wayne who's coming to his like, uh, the heart of a apocalypse actually made me too smart for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know exactly what's going on, but just so you know, it's going to pull one more trick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's your grad son.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that the simulation of Damian knows this isn't real, at that that knows this isn't real, means that instantly he's also going to know the grad son isn't real.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, that moment didn't quite hit for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hear you on that because it was like yes, but the next issue text I thought brought it home for me Just Batman versus happiness and I was like, oh, that actually does track like even the simulation can fuck him up If it's like this is what it's like to feel good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, guy
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, anyway, regardless, I'm still really enjoying this next up ultimate X-Men number 23 from Marvel by Peach Mamoca.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the pen ultimate issue of this title.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're getting a bit of a swerve here going back in time and showing how there has been a character behind the scenes the entire time working throughout.
[SPEAKER_01]: pretty much all the issues of this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just had a state of the ultimate universe where we talked about this quite a bit among the other titles shared that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you guys think?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you guys think about this issue?
[SPEAKER_00]: Worth it for the art alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you have me at a page Mamoko.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is just it's just so unbelievable art.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't
[SPEAKER_02]: The art is good and there's sort of a gimmick here where we're going through time going issue by issue in some cases to sort of see what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think my sort of take or what we talked about a lot with this comic still stands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even in this issue which is like oh you guys want to know what's really been happening, I'll show you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of I was like no idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, don't say as somebody who re-read or read the entire run up until now to prep for the state of the ultimate universe, I'm right there with you just it was like, what's that?
[SPEAKER_01]: How does this connect?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is she like there's even date markers in there and I still couldn't quite follow how this was supposed to blow the whole thing wide open, but
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it does loop back to the beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does provide additional information about what other characters I don't think it does necessarily was like, this is the mind blower that it was supposed to be, but still a very good issue of this title.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe it wasn't wraps up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll go back and look at this and it'll make more sense, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what this issue I think was meant to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be like, let me show you the guide pose.
[SPEAKER_02]: But even just the last page of this is just a fantastic page that I'm like, oh, it makes me want to pick up the next issue even though as I said, I don't quite know what's happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're saying it's worth it for the art alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: The twilight zone number three from IDW written and drawn by James Stoco.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a black and white issue from Stoco about a battle that seems to be fought back in time, but is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually being fought.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the twilight zone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, god.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you didn't think I was going to say that, but I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love James Stokos, Art.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love looking at everything that he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: His hyper-detailed style is always absolutely wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're stealthily stoko?
[SPEAKER_01]: I am.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if this works at all for a twilight zone story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what a twist!
[SPEAKER_02]: That was yeah ironic weird in the twilight zone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I sort of agree with you this felt like like I was like James still go oh doing some samurai stuff totally tracks but then the the quote unquote twist I was like oh sort of the planet of the apes ish type twist
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it's the sort of thing we have so many anthologies going on right now that it's hard not to think of other ones, but like, this is something that my, it's not quite as hard focus, but it might work in one of like the EC, sci-fi, anthologies or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this doesn't feel like a Twilight Zone thing at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think part of it is that like, it's very joky and goofy.
[SPEAKER_01]: more intimate, more tension to it and this doesn't have that at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though it's a good comic, it just feels like there's a bit of a misnomer there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was having a blast with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really loving the art.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was enjoying the first couple twists and we get to that last one and I was kind of like, well, that's a little bit of a let down, but still pretty creative and cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what a sad note at the end there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cheetah, Cheshire robbed the Justice League Debra Six from D.C. Comics, where you look like local art by Nicholas Scott.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the last issue of this title that Pete has been really down on for five issues.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Johnny couldn't lately over here as decided to hop on board with the last great issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: the entire time you've been talking about like god they're just taking all this time to set up the heist there's so much set up the heist come on just get to it already well this issue they do get to it there are big twists they do wrap it up in a ridiculously satisfying fashion
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have been on board since beginning because I love this team, I love these characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they didn't phenomenal job throughout.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a great, I think, under the radar series that I really do hope people go back and read and trade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's smart, it's funny, gorgeous art from Nicolas Scott.
[SPEAKER_01]: What more do you want?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so let me just first say, yeah, yeah, I had my arms crossed when they do stuff like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: You, they, no one ever gets robbed.
[SPEAKER_00]: The bad person does.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really impressed with this last issue and it makes me want to go back and re-read the others and maybe enjoy it in a new light because.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uncrust your arms.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, this whole time I was like here they're never.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't fucking beat the Justice League.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're fucking, come on, you can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: All the Justice League, you get the you go it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really impressed with the heist, the twist.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was blown away and then was like, my bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I want to go back and reread because I was, I just think the art's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is such a cool, yeah, the way this ending just kind of really opened it all up for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So apologies, Alex.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a nice piece.
[SPEAKER_01]: I worked really hard on this book, so I really appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, coming back from the the page of Revelation to apologize to us as I predicted earlier on in this episode, it happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, it's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: The art in this book is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: We throw around the words twists and turns a lot on this podcast and this book really does it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
[SPEAKER_00]: at the end we get a classic the end and the beginning and I would like to see more from the yeah I mean I was really nervous about like the way they just devied like just kind of like had all the treasure and like all you take this I was like guys there's the jar of star also that you're being very casual about and I'm just really worried about how casual you are about our jar full of star us okay because that's going to be a real problem if that gets loose
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll have to see if it continues.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up, Wolverine number 14 for Marvel Written by Solid and I'm Med, art by Martine Kokolo.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is also under the shadows of tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't really have anything to do with age of revelation.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a straightforward Wolverine tale of in protecting some mutants and fighting and then teeming up with silver savages.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, speaking of which.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just which speed up was just and let's do a heat check as soon as I saw this cover I thought oh, man This is Justin's favorite character like as he excited is he nervous like how were you feeling when you saw this cover and did you get a Bona in your pants like a wow talk to me about or I don't anywhere else That's true I got a bone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know where
[SPEAKER_01]: somebody's not good side the thing with this first Whittaker was great in that movie by the way yeah what a like that I love ghost dog how dare you sir yeah ghost boner much gotta gotta clip that ghost dog so it stops getting ghost butters oh boy oh my god
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be afraid of no to your cats folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, to to your point.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this cover I love silver-sable now my favorite character, but up there for sure Come on, however you say this story doesn't have anything to do with shadows of tomorrow I would argue this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't have anything to do with anything
[SPEAKER_02]: in this story Wolverine comes upon an abandoned he's driving past the gas station he's like oh I want gas he's like he gets there and he's like I guess this place is abandoned there's vines growing all over I was like what he's like bet the gas is old I was like yeah that's not a gas station dude
[SPEAKER_02]: and then he gets attacked by some mutants who are like rich, I guess, because they're paying silver-sable to defend them, even though they themselves have mutant powers and are defending themselves against Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some other random people show up for like, let's kill these mutants.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no Wolverines here, and then silver-sable Wolverine, like, let's fight the, it just, it was a bit of a big letdown for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: The story was just almost non-sensical.
[SPEAKER_02]: and from a little absolute any bit of logic point of view.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and Wolverine's defense, he was driving very fast past what he thought was a gas station ran out of gas and then had to walk back and then realized it was, you know, how fast you have to be driving to not notice that a gas station is covered in pretty fast wheels.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty damn fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how Wolverine loses life.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I'm not as harsh on this as you.
[SPEAKER_01]: This felt like a very straightforward.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just,
[SPEAKER_01]: to read this literally any time, Wolverine storyline.
[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, I was expecting, coming out of a big event, you expect like resetting the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting a new mission statement for the whole line, and that's not what it is here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically like, could have happened, any, this could have come out 30 years ago when I wanted to Blake tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, silver-sable is the leader of Symcoria, and she's like, yeah, I've defend this gas station from these two randoms.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes money gets tight.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you gotta make some gigs.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's how it works.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's gigging.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's just sitting Uber and night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some days here flush, some days here not.
[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta take gigs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a freelance, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Get the vibe.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can save her in a name.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are the same person.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know why you're.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was a blast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this team.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the art was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the twists and turns.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, team up Alpha Flight in the next issue, teaser that I did notice in this comic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: This comic is also from the last page.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you skipped the last page, you would have.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I love alpha flight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we need to keep building them up as like, no, but they're a real threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're a real threat this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what's supposed to be happy here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to take that Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried about this fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is how, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should be worried.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the fighting is old friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an emotional battle as well as a physical one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But don't you think fighting your friends would be easier than fighting strangers?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know the other weaknesses.
[SPEAKER_02]: What, yeah?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Pete could be like, hey, the funky vegan or whatever, like you know, like his weakness is the battle like, that's a great point.
[SPEAKER_00]: You might get your point, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, F. My life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: F. Oh, number seven from Dark Horse comics written by Kelly Sue DeConic, art by David Lopez.
[SPEAKER_01]: In this issue, our main mom character is trying to track down her daughter who has been taken by a media
[SPEAKER_01]: to a true crime convention.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, her son who is a big Harry monster and her husband are locked in prison with a guy with glowing eyes.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a wildly creative comic where so many things are going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say the thing that really struck me this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been very surprising about this book is I feel like it started on even keel between the Bob of the Sun and has slowly become just like about the bomb a whole lot more, which
[SPEAKER_01]: It is Kelly Sue writing about herself add to her family through the leds of metaphor, so it makes sense that she would be focusing on herself and her own issues and things that she's going through and they're great, they're fun to see, but I'd love to get back to the sun a little bit as we head towards the final issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: No book goes harder in folding in like magical realism or metaphor as reality at then this book and it's fun like it just really the one-to-one translation of a real life emotion into comic book plotting is is really something to see I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this continues to be really fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the art, love the kind of all the madness that we get in this issue, a lot going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the sun is very enjoyable, and I'm sure we'll get back to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes you'll little mom timing and roll that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any other wrong?
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you want to say anything wrong?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was just saying that and wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: That bad Greedow, the question Arcadia number two from DC Comics by Gabriel Hardman.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a tech company that all three characters are investigating in different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: Greedow is fighting against them.
[SPEAKER_01]: That bad has been hired by them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the question is, where could you get entirely different area in the dirtiest post-discussing place is possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're all slowly starting to come together and discovering that shock or shockers.
[SPEAKER_01]: This tech company is not that great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're really complimentary of the first issue of this black label series.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you think it held up in issue two?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy to have a book where Batman is like a dick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's just really wrong and through this entire issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also like standing around, just kind of like talking, I'm like, what are you even doing here?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is just, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, just to throw out there, not to interrupt.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think this is channeling like,
[SPEAKER_01]: What, the 70s, early 80s version of this character is probably like right before Dark Knight and everything redefined him when he was a little more like, I'm a superhero in the center here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Green Arrow was the counterculture guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had question if he was a dirty, weird guy, I was a dirty, weird places.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think, yeah, it's different than we're used to, but it's kind of neat and interesting to see him in that position.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Batman is like they're they're paying me so I have to do what they say and it's like that's yeah, well, not a very modern Batman Tells you yeah, I agree it's it's got a little but questions great in here, though, arts also great I'll pick out check out the next ones who have it's
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like the art and I think it has a very much action movie plotting that feels like it's a big story in each issue gives us that next big piece.
[SPEAKER_01]: Devil on my shoulder number two from Dark Horse Comics written by Kyle Starks, Art by Peotr Koalski, last issue we got a woman who was beaten and brutalized within an inch of her life to the point that they thought she was dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: They threw in the river and now she is coming back for her revenge and issued to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't wait for that revenge.
[SPEAKER_01]: It starts right at the beginning of the issue and that continues onwards from there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin and I talked to Kyle Starks about this book and a bunch of other stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: extensively it was about his vertical book we ended up talking about this quite a bit as well so do you go listen to that interview yet a lot of insight on John yeah please I lived it you get a lot of insight on this issue we did talk about this issue a little bit or talked around it without specifically getting into spoilers but would you guys think about this I mean with the world cup coming to the America's next through this year like definitely check out the first four or five pages of
[SPEAKER_02]: This really gets you high for the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the more horrifying images that I've read recently.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this is Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: You must be excited because this first couple of pages are a preview of Ted Lazarus season four.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't yuck my yam, you asshole.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is some violent shit here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love the art, love the action, some great knife play, some sneaky knife moves, which I'm always about, but yeah, that soccer shit was really fucked up.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it continues to be brutal and I think that's what we're going forward on the line talking to Kyle about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a supernatural element here that we legitimately just haven't really got to yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're setting really slowly planting the seeds and letting the story just be violent as its main storytelling engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great team.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing a straight over the plate, horror book here, and that's a lot of fun to read even when it's terrifying.
[SPEAKER_01]: JSA, number 15 from DC Comics, written by Jeff LeMier, art by Gavin Greedry, we're continuing the JSA year one arc that is slowly bringing the team together with a mystery back in their mystery men days.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we said with previous issues, this is exactly the mode that I want to see JSA.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I continue to personally really enjoy it, but what about you dudes?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this has got such a great vibe old school kind of feel to it, which is really fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a cool tone for this book.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the last panel.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you got Dr. Faite saying some fucked up shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, this is going to kill everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of classic Dr. Faite feel and move.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wonder Woman is great in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this is this is different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wonder Woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: but still with the same vibe and look.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think Jeff Lameer just doing a great job of balancing all these characters and telling another complicated story in this world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Gavin Gweedree's art.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say about a year ago in a week, almost.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were down in New Orleans with Gavin at our show, at SHIFT, where our guy remembers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bro Carey where we hung out and talked to Gavin about he I think he may have mentioned this or at least Teased that he was working on this and it was very excited about it a no-laman to his core and we got to eat caviar with him that Brett fed to us.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fantastic
[SPEAKER_01]: Really was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring me back there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up, minor threats.
[SPEAKER_01]: The last devil left alive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number three from Dark Horse Comics room by Patton Oswell and Jordan Bloom, art by Scott Hepburn.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are continuing in the main story of minor threats, which finds multi-versal gentrification coming to town and the supervillains and superheroes fighting back against it.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about this main storyline that has no archie comics characters in it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I've been beating the drum for this as well alongside abs of Superman.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like, I love this universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's an endlessly creative area, the overarching story here of the inter dimensional gentrification is really smart and interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I got a highlight riding in the man car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see in the back back there with this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: So funny, uh, so uh, like,
[SPEAKER_02]: the boy that turns into a car when he gets wet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say a lot of cartoon from back in the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we've talked about this before and just a really funny take on having this person be a real as a wheel man in the minor 13 reverse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was really a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was such a great issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tons of action.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mar the man car is a really awesome, the puking was fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: The little fly guy continues to really be awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you say puking was fun, does that you or the character?
[SPEAKER_00]: The character who was kind of grossed up by being on the insides of a car where it was all like guts and stuff, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the most disgusting car you've ever been?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've definitely been in cars where people like open up the door and like trash fell out and I'm like how am I gonna get in you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how about you?
[SPEAKER_00]: You were lured in by the food in the trash No, I was lured in by this was my only option for a ride you know what I mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, but you would call for a raccoon Uber.
[SPEAKER_00]: So
[SPEAKER_02]: When there's old coffee cups on the dashboard, that's when you get into a dirty car.
[SPEAKER_02]: When the dashboard is a place of disposal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, all right, poison ivy number 40 from DC comics.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Poison ivy from DC comics written by G. Well, Wilson art by David G. on Felicia.
[SPEAKER_01]: Poison ivy is finally back in Gotham City and boy, that might have been a big mistake on her part as she is taken captive by Vendal Savage.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was now the police commissioner in town and tasked with being there essentially environmental
[SPEAKER_01]: I was very excited about this and I'm very excited about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to hear what you guys think because we talk a lot about how generally when we have a book we're like, yeah, this is good.
[SPEAKER_01]: We stop talking about it because we don't have anything additional.
[SPEAKER_01]: We stuck with poison ivy because I think all three of us love poison ivy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I continue to love poison ivy, but I'm very excited because it feels like it's making some big plot moves starting at this issue to move it back into the main continuity, rather than its own side pocket continuity, which hopefully will give us a couple more things to say, other than this is good, I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but the thing is even as we're saying that in this being one of the most consistently great comics and the stands for all of these 40 issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: is it continues to innovate like this new villain that comes in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I found which is like a I essentially or like algorithmic decision making you could say maybe is great like it's not heavy handed and it's like satire it's just telling like this is what is happening in Gotham and you can make the parallels to the real world if you'd like.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's all through an emotional lens of Poison Ivy being threatened and her close loved ones being threatened as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this continues to be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I enjoy it, and the art is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this is a real ocean moment here in this comic where I was like, did she just murder death kill that person?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh crap, that lady with the monocle could be dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I am excited to see what's going to be on the other side of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it is hard to keep talking about something that's great after you've already
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of said it, so yeah, I don't know, teenage Ninja Turtles, Godzilla, number two for Mighty Debbie, if I'd say, silly, art and buying fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: They talked about Godzilla earlier in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's my favorite issue of the week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, great.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we buried it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We buried it at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say anything further about it or give it a description.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess I will.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is shredder's mask with Godzilla reflected in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty cool looking.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like Godzilla was shredder for a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, wait, who's shredder?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I took it as it's like shredder wearing a Godzilla hat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I took it as like I'm looking at shredders for a fraction and maybe I'm Godzilla, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, fight on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your dream, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your dream is to wake up looking at air and be like, huh?
[SPEAKER_02]: Huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream, what's your dream
[SPEAKER_01]: is part of a big plan by shredder and the foot plan and crank and all the baddies which I guess Pete, which I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Tim Sealy did it again.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what a combo.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got Godzilla and a bunch of other kind of, uh, Kaiju monsters and then shredder and his monsters.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, man, uh, this is just fantastic, uh, loved all the action, love all the kicking butt and, uh, man, uh, I had such a blast reading this comic.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was one of my favorite of the week.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's, I have a lot of questions happening here.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is book is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do enjoy the combination here.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of splinter action.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get to see a moment where Casey Jones is facing down Gidora.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like King of the Monsters, essentially holding a bowling pin and he goes, son of a.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, that's Casey Jones right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Throw that bowling pin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow, I've never heard of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how it works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't usually throw the pins.
[SPEAKER_01]: You throw the bowling ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do the bowling ball, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you standing, which side of the bowling alley?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you standing?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, pizza pin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pizza pin.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, he, he, he's both the balls.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a pin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sure all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a boller.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's think you could be either be a bowling ball or a pin in this role.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've always been a pin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a tougher job.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a tougher job.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just have to fall down or stand up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was fall down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had a machine, picks you up and puts you back in place.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the dream, baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you got it's hard taking those hits, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what everyday feels like.
[SPEAKER_02]: I go to say, I lay down and go to sleep and then the pin center picks me up by the neck and says, get back to work, stand in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Time to get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But all's all there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, a couple of follow questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a section here where the turtles are talking about their favorite pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you mentioned rhubarb pizza.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know what rhubarb is?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what rhubarb.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a little word.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is this a sweet pizza?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're dipping into the like the pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: Turtles are famous for going outside of the norm of pizza toppings and getting goofy with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: The turtles are all turtles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but the teenage weird ninja turtles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah, I do a lot of crazy stuff that's crazy is that because they live in a sewer Or do they just have like a yeah, they have like something wrong with their taste buds because of the ooze Well, it could be that too, but I'm sure a little from Kyle Mayo from Kyle and me and I do you think they ever just like open their mouths That the sewer water run into it and just like eat whatever comes into their mouths
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess if they're feeling lazy, because you like like the way tracker eats shit to track that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not in the week and week segment, there's stuff for you to talk more about tracker and check out week and week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait for a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hit your dot.com slash comic book club.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot of way for the next episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me be honest, if you're sitting in a, if you're eating piece in a sewer, every topping is garbage, every time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So how dare you?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's another section here.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's another section here.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's another section here.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's another section here.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's another section here.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's another section here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say it's an LAX.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a pizza wall where you put a money in and then a while later the pizza comes out and it is disappointing
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, your expectations were high for the wall pizza.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was there, I was flying back from LA with my kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is going to be cool, it's a pizza wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: We put the money in and then it buzzes in there, they get you, you get a door, it's like an auto mat.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably just the pizza came out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's fucking less making it behind this wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was less of a fun trick to show my kids a cool adventure in the airport.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not so a section in here where I'm splinters talking about how much money he has in his robes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That much money do you think splinters got out of it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it depends on which role he's got fans here.
[SPEAKER_00]: One's got more money in it, but you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he keeps more money in his fancier clothes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you do that?
[SPEAKER_02]: You, like, in your suit, you got a hundred, hundred bones.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell us, man, I mean, Spunner lived the same life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Peter's a Tuxedo in his pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is closet that has like thousands of bucks at this pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: He shrunk it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has aunt, man, about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his retirement account.
[SPEAKER_01]: is his retirement sex and do we have anything else to say about this comic because it's great one more of this it's also got a cool cool cover really fun stuff I started there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hellboy in the BPRD the Ghost ships of Labrador and over to from Dark Wars comic story by Mike Bigola and Rob Williams art by Lawrence Campbell I know I believe all three of us but I was definitely very high on the first issue of this which found hellboy
[SPEAKER_01]: investigating a weird ghost filled island.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was ultimately swallowed by a ghost well, and that's where we find him.
[SPEAKER_01]: This issue trapped on a ghost ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta say I still love this two issue series, but it definitely falls into the trap that I feel like you mentioned a lot just in where it basically wraps up by Hellboy being like
[SPEAKER_02]: well guess that wrapped up yeah there are a lot of heroes in modern comics who have almost no agency in air ventures he shows up and he's like what the fuck and then he's like well that was crazy and he goes about for the next one's like what what did you do bro yeah everything was always like man your hand is powerful and i'm like he didn't even use yeah that it seemed like he was just kind of like
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was, he was hurt by the swimming in circles line, you know, you mean he's sitting there on the Dockle on like well, that was a funny bit like this he resolves this story by by the adventure by escaping using his his powerful hand his giant right hand and but at the end Abe finds him swimming in circles And he's the last lines are literally yeah, I was swimming in circles one arms kind of bigger than the other, you know I was like what a little joke end to this
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing is that the first issue, it wasn't like deadly serious, but there was like a creeping dread happening throughout it, and this one is nonstop jokes pretty much the entire time, so it's just a surprising turn.
[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed the both, but it was a surprising turn for me she wanted to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and just there's a great, but something that Mike Miniela does that I love is there's just a panel in here where if the rats are like, oh, oh, some's coming or something like that and I like I love those little random cutaways And no one else treats ghosts like Mike Miniela where he's like the ghosts are like it sucks being dead help us We just want to be at the be our bones or whatever and it's very funny, great tone
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: The arts fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really cool story.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, you know, the Hellboy just kind of sitting alone dealing with the fact that, here's a hard time swimming was kind of a sad place to leave them, but also kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just kind of deep in thought of like, man, I can't go swimming because I can only swim in circles.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, other than that kind of realization or dealing with that, I thought it was really
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[SPEAKER_02]: It always suppin' visit Peter's bowling alley where he's standing patiently in the backline waiting to get struck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, I hope they don't go to strike.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got a seven-peat split coming my way.
[SPEAKER_04]: They sit on crappy couches and they let us see what we can And he's just nothing, they're like fast, they're short, they're speaking So grab your ring, hammer, don't relay, or it'll fail