WEBVTT 00:04.958 --> 00:07.287 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello and welcome to the home Mrs. and podcast. 00:07.307 --> 00:08.772 [SPEAKER_00]: My name's Phil, joining me as usual. 00:08.852 --> 00:10.217 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got Rihon, Tadeleignite. 00:11.101 --> 00:12.606 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, good how are you? 00:12.755 --> 00:13.035 [SPEAKER_00]: Very good. 00:13.055 --> 00:13.316 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 00:13.356 --> 00:13.897 [SPEAKER_00]: Happy new year. 00:13.917 --> 00:14.378 [SPEAKER_00]: 2026. 00:14.999 --> 00:16.381 [SPEAKER_00]: Happy new year. 00:16.421 --> 00:16.601 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 00:16.621 --> 00:17.262 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's actually new year. 00:17.282 --> 00:17.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Stay for me still. 00:17.984 --> 00:18.605 [SPEAKER_00]: So there we go. 00:18.625 --> 00:19.226 [SPEAKER_00]: I was recording. 00:19.246 --> 00:20.107 [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. 00:20.127 --> 00:20.427 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice. 00:20.668 --> 00:23.412 [SPEAKER_00]: This podcast is sponsored by Herbuses Cloud 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20261, there has been some cool headlines that came out. 01:49.330 --> 01:55.699 [SPEAKER_03]: We actually had a little bit full and I had a little bit of a conversation about it offline with one of our previous guests. 01:57.241 --> 02:00.625 [SPEAKER_03]: Not Darren from the House of Open Home Foundation. 02:00.986 --> 02:01.546 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, correct. 02:01.747 --> 02:06.573 [SPEAKER_03]: Open Home Foundation around this new thing coming out, part of music assistant. 02:07.474 --> 02:16.907 [SPEAKER_03]: But essentially, with music assistant capping their first full-time proper dedicated employee, IE Marvin, 02:17.647 --> 02:22.835 [SPEAKER_03]: They're now releasing a wireless sync streaming protocol called Senspin. 02:24.138 --> 02:34.795 [SPEAKER_03]: So the idea is you're able to send high fidelity audio, album art, visualize your data, and all that stuff, an automate, automatically adapting to the devices capabilities. 02:35.078 --> 02:35.879 [SPEAKER_03]: What does that mean? 02:37.081 --> 02:47.777 [SPEAKER_03]: So we've got, for example, an e-paper display that can throw into album cover, and you might have multiple music players that are playing the music. 02:48.318 --> 02:59.635 [SPEAKER_03]: So sonos, for example, I think they pioneered that where with, especially with audio over IP or like what, you know, as we're streaming it, 02:59.615 --> 03:14.464 [SPEAKER_03]: the fact that your speaker at in your office and your bedroom and your living room, all of those speakers are synchronized, all in phase, so as you're walking through that house, yet a beautiful whole-homodial kind of experience, right? 03:14.604 --> 03:16.307 [SPEAKER_03]: Even though it's all wireless. 03:16.287 --> 03:34.245 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, so essentially what happens is now music assistants come this new functionality called sense spinner the new protocol called sense bin brings in that functionality in to music assistant and Ergo home assistant as well with as your leveraging music assistant automations there. 03:34.664 --> 03:37.948 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's super exciting. 03:38.008 --> 03:45.978 [SPEAKER_03]: So now that means if you have multiple voice pees like I've got on behind me there, maybe you've got a couple others around the house. 03:46.599 --> 03:51.706 [SPEAKER_03]: This was the big thing is when you want to play music, you couldn't synchronize it, you couldn't play it. 03:53.828 --> 03:59.035 [SPEAKER_03]: Even if you could, I don't think you could play it all together, but even if you could play it all together in a group, 03:59.555 --> 04:00.437 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't really sound great. 04:00.597 --> 04:00.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:00.998 --> 04:01.218 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:02.160 --> 04:06.047 [SPEAKER_00]: I know getting synced audio like around the house. 04:06.067 --> 04:10.796 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Sonos had patents on this day had pretty much locked down right. 04:10.816 --> 04:13.120 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not an easy thing to do. 04:13.421 --> 04:14.102 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 04:14.142 --> 04:18.731 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have an experienced sense being it. 04:19.011 --> 04:20.614 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't tried it out. 04:21.155 --> 04:22.778 [SPEAKER_00]: I am. 04:22.758 --> 04:23.740 [SPEAKER_00]: it's skeptical. 04:23.940 --> 04:31.352 [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's probably enough to mention that there is support for some airplane two devices, Google Chrome devices. 04:32.494 --> 04:35.238 [SPEAKER_00]: You can also test it out using the web browser. 04:35.379 --> 04:45.475 [SPEAKER_00]: If you open up a music system, I believe in a web browser, there is a play button there, and then that can then sink to a voice assistant PA. 04:45.910 --> 04:59.278 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, I'm skeptical, I hope like the, I think the goal is that you could have an airplane device, a Google Chrome device, a Sonos speaker and your computer and all the audio would be seen. 04:59.498 --> 05:02.164 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, to do that, um, 05:02.144 --> 05:05.247 [SPEAKER_00]: Perfectly, like Sona says, Sona says control of the software and the hardware. 05:05.727 --> 05:16.677 [SPEAKER_00]: So they know more ways and all the tricky bits, because as soon as you get even just a fraction out of sync, it can throw off that whole house audio feeling. 05:18.178 --> 05:32.151 [SPEAKER_00]: And even in the notes here from Music Assistant, it does note that, you know, they do support Apple A2, but there is an 05:32.131 --> 05:43.026 [SPEAKER_00]: I think this is fantastic and it's also part of now the open home foundation and the open home project so it's open source and can be used by anyone. 05:43.566 --> 05:46.010 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm very interested to see where this goes. 05:46.290 --> 06:00.990 [SPEAKER_00]: I have on my personal user but you know why not open I would love to be able to only get my personal speakers with you know maybe a cheaper parent speaker in the future. 06:01.713 --> 06:07.300 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I mean, I think there's some really cool cool things you could do around the house, right? 06:07.361 --> 06:09.203 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I don't know. 06:09.343 --> 06:11.506 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see anything about Amazon Echoes. 06:11.606 --> 06:12.547 [SPEAKER_03]: I might be wrong. 06:12.828 --> 06:19.277 [SPEAKER_03]: But I didn't, so, you know, if you're like me, you're still kind of at a luck there. 06:20.098 --> 06:21.279 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was a bold one then. 06:22.341 --> 06:23.702 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 06:24.604 --> 06:25.645 [SPEAKER_03]: Which isn't 06:25.827 --> 06:26.928 [SPEAKER_03]: ideal for me. 06:26.948 --> 06:29.932 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess that made me a component like the hacks component. 06:30.733 --> 06:33.636 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think a little bit, but I still think there are restrictions there. 06:34.798 --> 06:39.884 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't because at the end of the day, you want to be able to send a MP3 URL. 06:39.924 --> 06:43.668 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, or whatever form a URL to the Amazon Echo. 06:43.708 --> 06:45.971 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that is what you can't do today. 06:46.712 --> 06:49.675 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or at least not natively through. 06:49.891 --> 06:50.212 [SPEAKER_03]: music. 06:50.673 --> 06:55.406 [SPEAKER_03]: So again, there's still, there's still some way to go there from, and I don't think that's on music. 06:55.487 --> 06:57.412 [SPEAKER_03]: This is, and I think that's on Amazon. 06:59.398 --> 07:00.280 [SPEAKER_03]: But that's huge. 07:00.300 --> 07:02.667 [SPEAKER_03]: I think those are some massive improvements there, right? 07:02.707 --> 07:03.850 [SPEAKER_03]: There's, um, 07:04.184 --> 07:27.154 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a firmer update available for the voice pe that includes some functionality there as I mentioned that and then you know they're adding lyrics support smart fading ability to track we've I mean we've talked about this in previous episode so this this this this part is not a newer feature but like ducking audio with your voice pe's and stuff like that like 07:27.607 --> 07:40.868 [SPEAKER_03]: it's it's actually getting somewhere right like this is this the project is actually moving forward and it's getting some really cool features and functionality and I think you know I'm excited to see where it goes do I think it's there yet? 07:41.549 --> 07:53.648 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's mostly there yet I think it's mostly there I don't think it's 100% there again like for me I'd have to replace all my echoes which voice 07:54.202 --> 07:59.590 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think obviously, you're not going to listen to high fidelity audio, voice PA. 07:59.610 --> 08:04.218 [SPEAKER_00]: I've always been absolutely never changing, you know, that 3.5 mil audio out, but even then that's unalogable. 08:04.298 --> 08:06.842 [SPEAKER_03]: Even then, how would you getting out from there, right? 08:06.862 --> 08:09.265 [SPEAKER_03]: The data is, I don't think the dark on there is powerful enough. 08:09.326 --> 08:10.287 [SPEAKER_03]: But. 08:10.267 --> 08:17.758 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I've been seeing people on Facebook and a lot of these other, like, Reddit and stuff at that, where who are building speakers with. 08:18.319 --> 08:27.533 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, right now, there's still mostly based on the voice PE, but I'm sure there's somebody working on something with a more powerful 08:28.441 --> 08:44.861 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, some feedback from some previous episodes, BMK, 789 on YouTube, I loved our brain-solving ideas for inventory and ROC with network shock, and they've suggested an episode dedicated to run an eye brain-solving solutions for products in this my home. 08:46.162 --> 08:50.247 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you've got a problem in your smartphone or you're struggling to automate something, 08:50.227 --> 08:55.692 [SPEAKER_00]: or set us a voice note to that same email address. 08:56.312 --> 09:03.719 [SPEAKER_00]: And if we get enough responses, we'll either do them in segments, so much what we're doing right now, or we'll do a hold of a sorry on them. 09:04.019 --> 09:06.661 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if you've worked out a solution yourself, I mean, you want to see how we would automate it. 09:07.202 --> 09:09.884 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, always love a challenge in automation, right? 09:10.224 --> 09:14.708 [SPEAKER_00]: There's always many ways that's going to cat, especially with home, assistant and all its fancy ways of doing things. 09:14.768 --> 09:16.129 [SPEAKER_00]: How would we do it compared to you? 09:16.230 --> 09:20.233 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's a interesting fruit for thought for other people in the community as well. 09:20.213 --> 09:21.335 [SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect. 09:22.837 --> 09:31.188 [SPEAKER_03]: One of the other comments we saw that that was pretty interesting is Toby Mall has been having a decent amount of success sending chat to P.T. 09:32.690 --> 09:39.139 [SPEAKER_03]: their own home assistant logs, which then tells the AI to be like, hey, go, figure this out. 09:39.279 --> 09:42.163 [SPEAKER_03]: Go, why is my home assistant not acting the way it should? 09:42.243 --> 09:42.924 [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on? 09:43.905 --> 09:46.689 [SPEAKER_03]: Help me troubleshoot a home assistant. 09:46.849 --> 09:47.250 [SPEAKER_03]: So, 09:47.399 --> 09:48.761 [SPEAKER_03]: I know I've done this in the past as well. 09:48.941 --> 09:54.689 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great way of trying to troubleshoot just getting a second set of eyes on it. 09:55.270 --> 10:00.296 [SPEAKER_03]: And to me, it's like, if I still can't figure it out, then it's a go to the forum, something like that. 10:00.336 --> 10:01.958 [SPEAKER_03]: But that's part of my investigative process. 10:01.979 --> 10:08.647 [SPEAKER_03]: It's Google, check the forums, check chat to PT, and then I'll go post it on the forums or discord or something like that. 10:09.048 --> 10:09.829 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah. 10:10.805 --> 10:17.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do like, I am the guy that has 50 occupiers open in my home, this isn't instance. 10:17.537 --> 10:24.349 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't want to look at what my logs are saying, you know, like 50 something. 10:24.369 --> 10:24.770 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 10:25.031 --> 10:25.632 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 10:25.652 --> 10:25.812 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 10:25.832 --> 10:26.714 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get into a bit later. 10:26.734 --> 10:26.974 [SPEAKER_00]: Why? 10:26.954 --> 10:28.136 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 10:28.437 --> 10:30.340 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, new features in 2026.1. 10:30.360 --> 10:33.165 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been trying to remember say 2026 now. 10:34.007 --> 10:43.765 [SPEAKER_00]: The home dashboard has had some big changes for our mobile devices, these release, so the home dashboard will now display summary cards like lights, 10:43.745 --> 10:52.546 [SPEAKER_00]: climate, security, media players, weather, and energy directly at the top of the view, followed by your favorite areas. 10:52.566 --> 10:59.863 [SPEAKER_00]: So this replaces the previous tab-based navigation and it should give you an instant access without any extra tabs or anything. 10:59.843 --> 11:05.832 [SPEAKER_00]: There's also a new devices page which will now appear on the Home dashboard to show all orphaned devices. 11:05.872 --> 11:19.373 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you haven't assigned a device to an area in the Home dashboard is trying to organize things into areas, there'll be a new data bottle that we'd like to arrange devices button that you click on and then that will show all the devices that haven't been assigned to an area. 11:19.774 --> 11:21.196 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can go in from there. 11:21.937 --> 11:22.999 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's beautiful. 11:24.447 --> 11:29.378 [SPEAKER_03]: There's also a pretty decent update around the purpose of a conditions and triggers. 11:30.320 --> 11:36.914 [SPEAKER_03]: So it adds a lot more trigger types to this new methodology that they're using. 11:37.335 --> 11:44.430 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're not familiar with this, honestly, we had a decent chat with it about it at nauseam last month with Frank. 11:44.410 --> 11:45.933 [SPEAKER_03]: Check out that episode first. 11:46.073 --> 11:49.539 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot easier than me going through some rising a lot of that stuff. 11:49.579 --> 11:50.601 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of nuances to it. 11:50.621 --> 11:52.404 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of why did we do it this way? 11:52.884 --> 11:54.848 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, but I mean, why did they do it this way? 11:54.888 --> 11:55.849 [SPEAKER_03]: I had nothing to do with it. 11:56.791 --> 12:03.803 [SPEAKER_03]: And what that brings to home assistant and ultimately to Asus users. 12:03.985 --> 12:07.429 [SPEAKER_03]: But here's basically the overview of all of the new triggers they got added. 12:08.851 --> 12:25.131 [SPEAKER_03]: So the button trigger fires, which when a button entity has been pressed, climate triggers, now cover a lot of their common scenarios, so like HVAC mode changes, temperature changes, target temperature across the threshold, those kind of triggers, which are actually pretty nice to have there. 12:25.872 --> 12:31.579 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's also all triggers for the current temperature, humidity changes, 12:31.863 --> 12:34.346 [SPEAKER_03]: and that's just, that's just climate. 12:34.826 --> 12:50.422 [SPEAKER_03]: There's device tracker changes so you can start to see when people leave, come home, who's the first person to arrive, last person to arrive, or whatever changes, humidifier triggers, again, when is it on off, starts drying, those kind of things. 12:51.303 --> 12:58.630 [SPEAKER_03]: Like triggers based on brightness changes or anything like that, locks, scenes, 12:58.610 --> 13:00.453 [SPEAKER_03]: update triggers. 13:00.473 --> 13:03.840 [SPEAKER_03]: So when an update becomes available, you can start to do whatever. 13:03.860 --> 13:06.144 [SPEAKER_03]: So sometimes people say, hey, updates available. 13:06.745 --> 13:14.679 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me just fire up a backup quickly before I even go into the interface and hit that hit the backup button or anything like it's in there. 13:14.800 --> 13:17.244 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it's yeah. 13:18.266 --> 13:19.909 [SPEAKER_03]: But you've been having some weirdness. 13:20.041 --> 13:49.221 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I want to face this, so last month when we had Frank on and we were talking about, you know, the purpose-specific conditions and triggers, I was really excited when Frank told me about the idea that you know, you label a device or a present sensor and then you can actually on that label right like a something that's labeled as a present sensor, I mean a room, then you could find anything that's labeled light and turn that on like this makes perfect sense. 13:49.623 --> 13:56.073 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I didn't have, I was like, whatever, I'll put that in the back of the mind and when I do my next automation, I'll get to it. 13:57.115 --> 14:03.745 [SPEAKER_00]: If you following me on social media, you would have noticed I did put out a tweet that I had randomly was at work on date and we had a blackout at home. 14:04.266 --> 14:08.873 [SPEAKER_00]: So when I got home, this was a bit, it didn't come up completely. 14:08.893 --> 14:11.016 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, my satellite J.S. 14:11.597 --> 14:14.141 [SPEAKER_00]: container wasn't online, so I had to break that back up. 14:14.161 --> 14:18.027 [SPEAKER_00]: But the weirdest thing was that my, 14:18.310 --> 14:24.366 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it being network was fine, except for my acquire FP1 presence sensors? 14:25.048 --> 14:31.165 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, these are Zigbee-based, in a way, sensors, but we, you know, but kicks out with this whole edit wave. 14:31.666 --> 14:33.872 [SPEAKER_00]: I think right, right, got these from China. 14:33.852 --> 14:40.160 [SPEAKER_00]: Must be, you know, I think like when I looked at the receipts, so, yeah, they were all unavailable. 14:40.320 --> 14:42.023 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, okay, that's weird. 14:42.583 --> 14:50.574 [SPEAKER_00]: I would press in the button on the back of them, trying to hard refresh, you know, like the aquarium, you like, let's get into pairing mode dance. 14:50.674 --> 14:53.778 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's, it's a bit of a tricky dance to do. 14:54.499 --> 15:00.687 [SPEAKER_00]: I could not for the life of me get any of these six devices to come back online. 15:00.667 --> 15:15.722 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, well, I guess I'm just going to have to bite the bullet, luckily a pull of automation had sent me some of their presence sensors to test out, and I've also got those link and link motion devices as well that I've been testing out. 15:15.702 --> 15:27.485 [SPEAKER_00]: I will just have to move those around and I don't want to go through the usual process of let's create entity ideas, let's move entity ideas over, I was like, you know what? 15:27.505 --> 15:31.152 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to activate this beta lab feature and go ahead and do it. 15:31.993 --> 15:36.141 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, unfortunately it's still very much a lab's feature and the 15:36.121 --> 15:38.807 [SPEAKER_00]: The dream thanks all beyond is not anywhere near there. 15:38.827 --> 15:51.615 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think there was that's ability to do like a if motion is detected in a very internalist light sort of thing or that that doesn't exist yet it might exist as a 2026 one. 15:51.595 --> 15:57.026 [SPEAKER_00]: I really wanted to trick it on a device with a specific label, so like how do I do this? 15:57.127 --> 16:00.935 [SPEAKER_00]: So I actually ended up creating a template and I actually had a bit of success. 16:01.015 --> 16:05.805 [SPEAKER_00]: So I changed the rooms of the devices that I needed to move around. 16:05.825 --> 16:10.515 [SPEAKER_00]: So for example, I had a device in the larger, I was like, there would just be, I'll just... 16:10.495 --> 16:11.997 [SPEAKER_00]: Repurpose that device from the laundry. 16:12.097 --> 16:17.362 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tag it as a present sensor and then I will sign it to the laundry room. 16:17.762 --> 16:32.277 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't create a template that goes through and for the room, it will then loop over each devices and it's tags, find all the ones, filter out there and you don't have the tag presence and then check their binary sensor status. 16:32.958 --> 16:36.942 [SPEAKER_00]: If the binary sensor is of the occupancy type, I believe it is. 16:36.922 --> 16:51.267 [SPEAKER_00]: From there, if any of those markers true, that binary sensor that template binary sensor goes to true and then presence is detected in the room and then I can trigger on that entity as opposed to a single devices entity if that makes sense. 16:51.327 --> 16:58.018 [SPEAKER_00]: So now I can have two motion sensors as long as I've tagged the both as presence and both. 16:57.998 --> 17:00.341 [SPEAKER_00]: label or mode in that area. 17:00.381 --> 17:03.003 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter what entity ID they have. 17:03.264 --> 17:15.076 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter anything else as long as the label and the room match and they've got a device type of occupancy and that underlying template sensor will be much true or false when they entity changes. 17:16.558 --> 17:24.446 [SPEAKER_00]: So now I can move devices around and not have to worry about okay that room that presence sensor in the bathroom is now in the laundry. 17:24.466 --> 17:27.870 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to go and update entity IDs 17:27.850 --> 17:30.655 [SPEAKER_00]: So I had big success with that. 17:31.036 --> 17:38.770 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I had to use an automation somewhere along the line to manually trigger an update of the template entity. 17:38.870 --> 17:44.982 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to do an update sensor call because it is an underlying template. 17:45.443 --> 17:49.470 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't always catch the event triggers. 17:49.450 --> 17:56.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so still finessing that a little bit, so yeah, that's that was my little wind there. 17:56.249 --> 18:00.582 [SPEAKER_03]: So overall, what are your thoughts on the new method? 18:00.602 --> 18:01.665 [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, it's a little different. 18:01.685 --> 18:04.573 [SPEAKER_03]: You've had to go, you kind of had to do a roundabout way. 18:04.553 --> 18:06.876 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 18:06.896 --> 18:17.971 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, like, what also happens how often your movie, you know, physical devices around, the good thing I like about this is, you know, being in a valve is like, don't repeat yourself, right? 18:18.992 --> 18:19.392 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:19.412 --> 18:21.956 [SPEAKER_00]: And this enables that 100% right. 18:21.976 --> 18:33.531 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, now I don't have to worry about, like, if I add, if I've got a long room, right, like a hallway, if I add a motion sensor at the other end of 18:33.511 --> 18:37.876 [SPEAKER_00]: to the new edge of the idea, I just label it in the UI and it's done. 18:40.018 --> 18:42.781 [SPEAKER_00]: So it sort of gives me that flexibility, right? 18:42.901 --> 18:51.410 [SPEAKER_00]: Or if you know the device, you know, runs out of batteries, or there's a, you know, like, it just doesn't work anymore. 18:51.430 --> 18:52.672 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, there's that people want to stop working. 18:52.772 --> 18:54.594 [SPEAKER_00]: I can switch it out for another device. 18:54.814 --> 18:55.235 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 18:55.255 --> 18:55.675 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 18:56.236 --> 18:57.477 [SPEAKER_00]: I also, 18:57.457 --> 19:06.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Because in my office, I didn't have another device to use, I was like, oh, how can I, you know, make, like, how do I define presence? 19:06.771 --> 19:13.962 [SPEAKER_00]: So I then just created another template helper based on the power level of my screen on my desk, on my computer. 19:14.443 --> 19:16.005 [SPEAKER_00]: So my laptop is there. 19:16.103 --> 19:23.533 [SPEAKER_00]: I can then say, OK, if power is above X amount of watts, Mark occupancy is detected, labeled that helper as a present sensor. 19:24.154 --> 19:27.539 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, with the sound as soon as my computer turns on, the room is marked as occupied. 19:27.899 --> 19:29.622 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't changed any automations, right? 19:29.902 --> 19:36.652 [SPEAKER_00]: So now my existing relations that do the lights during the aircon, they just see that the room is now occupied. 19:37.253 --> 19:44.743 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter if you're seeing there is presence, 19:45.635 --> 19:47.059 [SPEAKER_03]: so do something. 19:47.079 --> 19:47.339 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 19:47.359 --> 19:48.161 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't care. 19:48.181 --> 19:49.064 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't care the matter. 19:49.204 --> 20:03.019 [SPEAKER_03]: That's from an F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 F-1 20:03.640 --> 20:06.664 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that was my frustration with the choir. 20:06.724 --> 20:09.067 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I went away for Christmas, Scott back. 20:09.768 --> 20:12.612 [SPEAKER_00]: And would you believe we must have had another block out while I was away? 20:12.652 --> 20:17.458 [SPEAKER_00]: And all those FP1 sensors somehow working again. 20:19.201 --> 20:21.203 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that's the home assistant issue. 20:21.263 --> 20:24.468 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is my frustration with the Zigbee, right? 20:24.968 --> 20:27.792 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just so, 20:27.772 --> 20:30.676 [SPEAKER_00]: One minute, it depends which way is the wind blowing, right? 20:30.696 --> 20:33.501 [SPEAKER_00]: It's reliable one minute and then flakey the next. 20:34.002 --> 20:37.908 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not enough visibility, like I still haven't been able to reset. 20:37.988 --> 20:46.741 [SPEAKER_00]: I think for my memory, I have removed my office FP1 from the ZGB network, but it's still on my ZJ dashboard for somehow. 20:47.322 --> 20:49.946 [SPEAKER_00]: Because when I walked into my, when I got home, I walked into the office the lights turn. 20:50.106 --> 20:51.248 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hang on. 20:51.228 --> 20:52.370 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't turned my computer on. 20:52.430 --> 20:53.331 [SPEAKER_00]: Why the lights turning on? 20:53.892 --> 20:56.076 [SPEAKER_00]: And the sensor just laying on my desk. 20:56.516 --> 21:01.544 [SPEAKER_00]: And it just remembered because I still have it tagged as an occupancy sensor. 21:02.386 --> 21:03.748 [SPEAKER_00]: That template thing kicked in. 21:05.350 --> 21:08.515 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't know what happened interesting. 21:08.536 --> 21:11.080 [SPEAKER_00]: It's certainly, I don't think it's the devices are working again. 21:11.761 --> 21:12.782 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very impressed with devices. 21:13.063 --> 21:15.206 [SPEAKER_00]: I still use them. 21:15.226 --> 21:16.408 [SPEAKER_00]: But 21:16.388 --> 21:18.072 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why are they stopping working? 21:18.393 --> 21:19.616 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it still a mystery to me? 21:19.777 --> 21:22.544 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not that invested in finding out why this time. 21:23.145 --> 21:25.311 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just happy that they're working again because that's a new six. 21:25.872 --> 21:30.985 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got six or seven of them that I don't have to replace and you know in the way of sensors aren't cheap unfortunately. 21:31.687 --> 21:33.672 [SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't looking forward to that. 21:36.065 --> 21:36.706 [SPEAKER_00]: But there you go. 21:36.726 --> 21:37.348 [SPEAKER_00]: That's my rat. 21:37.368 --> 21:37.749 [SPEAKER_00]: There is a win. 21:37.789 --> 21:48.531 [SPEAKER_00]: I will, if people are interested, I will upload the template code somewhere to just do something and you can focus on it or improve it. 21:49.053 --> 21:51.357 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll try and get out next couple of weeks. 21:52.380 --> 21:53.001 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a perfect. 21:55.526 --> 21:56.368 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 21:57.513 --> 22:06.527 [SPEAKER_03]: That's, yeah, I don't know, that sounds like there are some good and there's some bad radiance with everything, but sounds like there's more good than bad. 22:07.128 --> 22:07.649 [SPEAKER_00]: Very good. 22:08.891 --> 22:10.914 [SPEAKER_00]: How resilient is your smartphone, right? 22:10.934 --> 22:22.272 [SPEAKER_00]: Like those FP1 sensors were pretty critical in like, I don't know, just like you're walking to a really light side turn on, but you're then back that up, right? 22:22.437 --> 22:34.656 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think using things like these templates and labels and all that as opposed to specific devices can allow you to quickly pivot to another solution. 22:35.257 --> 22:35.878 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 22:36.118 --> 22:36.839 [SPEAKER_00]: How a level, right? 22:36.859 --> 22:44.331 [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're in a living room, instead of replacing computer model with TV, right, someone turns a TV on, assuming the room's occupied, until you go. 22:44.891 --> 22:45.272 [SPEAKER_00]: Totally. 22:46.265 --> 23:02.845 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I mentioned some of the other episodes where I went through all of my sensors and tagged everything with like all my automations, all my sensors, all my everything, like everything is tagged with a multiple tags, almost things, right? 23:02.905 --> 23:09.412 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I know, we have areas and stuff, but I still have like, like, you know, my basement, so I have a basement tag, right? 23:09.432 --> 23:09.893 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, 23:10.480 --> 23:13.512 [SPEAKER_03]: That way, I don't know when or where I'm going to use it. 23:13.532 --> 23:13.913 [SPEAKER_03]: It's there. 23:13.933 --> 23:16.222 [SPEAKER_03]: If I ever choose to use it, go ahead. 23:16.483 --> 23:17.307 [SPEAKER_03]: Use a grab it, right? 23:17.327 --> 23:19.495 [SPEAKER_03]: So. 23:21.230 --> 23:32.428 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, there are some new protocol dashboards in 2026.1, so the settings page has had a little bit of a restructure around, and there's now buttons for each protocol that you have enabled. 23:32.508 --> 23:42.264 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you've enabled Zigbee, Zed Wave, or Matter, they will be now a button in that settings page that will then take you to the dashboard for that protocol. 23:43.867 --> 23:45.229 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think 23:45.209 --> 23:57.226 [SPEAKER_00]: That just makes it a little bit easier on the armways going in and for example, when I just go and check out those FP1 sensors when I have to go in and go to the devices page, go to ZHA, thank for devices and then I've got the dashboard or whatever. 23:57.246 --> 24:00.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, with settings ZB done. 24:00.911 --> 24:01.552 [SPEAKER_03]: Quick, easy. 24:01.713 --> 24:02.794 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's nice. 24:03.495 --> 24:06.880 [SPEAKER_03]: And speaking of protocols matter, now has an update as well. 24:06.960 --> 24:11.166 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no support for controlling volume levels on matter speakers. 24:11.703 --> 24:15.648 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe some of those speakers could be integrated in the music system, and you can use, yeah, you know. 24:16.229 --> 24:18.032 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a nice audio goodness. 24:19.674 --> 24:27.504 [SPEAKER_00]: Statistics that statistics and graph card now includes a link to the history panel in its header, just like the history graph's card already had. 24:28.025 --> 24:33.913 [SPEAKER_00]: So selecting a link takes you directly to the history with the same entities and time range pre-selected. 24:33.893 --> 24:36.957 [SPEAKER_00]: which is actually a very, like, I like that. 24:37.017 --> 24:38.499 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the most times everything. 24:38.519 --> 24:41.182 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I'm always, you know, clicking the history in the gut. 24:41.242 --> 24:47.090 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now I have to re-select the time period, re-select the entity, just to get to, you know, the time period I wanted to be. 24:48.111 --> 24:50.214 [SPEAKER_03]: Smart things has been a little bit of an update too. 24:50.234 --> 24:56.121 [SPEAKER_03]: It's got some new sensors, including air quality sensors, for PM1, PM2.5, and PM10. 24:56.438 --> 25:06.534 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there's also more food filter use of tracking fridge temperature sensor for the one door for traders and fan speed controls for your rangehood. 25:06.574 --> 25:11.703 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you have a Samsung smart kitchen, yeah, there you go. 25:13.546 --> 25:20.757 [SPEAKER_00]: Now rubber rock users, if you have a Q7 device, a rubber rock Q7, they are now supported with harm system. 25:20.998 --> 25:22.480 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can go ahead and integrate them. 25:24.198 --> 25:29.368 [SPEAKER_03]: The ping integration, which is like one of the original integrations, got some love them too. 25:29.388 --> 25:32.274 [SPEAKER_03]: It can now track packet loss as a percentage. 25:32.895 --> 25:34.338 [SPEAKER_03]: It's also disabled by default. 25:34.358 --> 25:35.720 [SPEAKER_03]: So go and turn it on if you like. 25:36.482 --> 25:39.848 [SPEAKER_00]: Squeeze box now offers alarm monitoring. 25:39.928 --> 25:43.455 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can get battery sensors to track if an alarm is upcoming. 25:43.435 --> 26:13.442 [SPEAKER_00]: active or snooze, plus it will also be a time stamp sensor when the next alarm is scheduled, which is actually, I don't use Questbox for our YouTube's SONOS, and that is also another anyway to add some pre-order motions around, you know, with SONOS, you've got a SONOS one with a voice in it, you can set an alarm for X amount of time, and then you can then have that exposed to home resistance, and then you can do 20 minutes before the next alarm, you 26:13.422 --> 26:14.824 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's nice. 26:16.687 --> 26:17.248 [SPEAKER_03]: Hick vision. 26:17.469 --> 26:26.403 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you're not familiar with American camera company, somewhere the real link in some of those other ones, NBR support is now here for them. 26:26.604 --> 26:32.393 [SPEAKER_03]: So you can now do extended event detection and automatically automatically discover video channels. 26:33.132 --> 26:37.237 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you're looking to upgrade your smart home, you can't go past the Zeus. 26:37.738 --> 26:42.043 [SPEAKER_00]: The Zeus have just released their brand new Zenwave Long Range RGBW Demo. 26:42.684 --> 26:47.029 [SPEAKER_00]: You can now automate 12-24 volt LED strips with full brightness and color control. 26:47.089 --> 26:55.039 [SPEAKER_00]: It's designed to easily install behind your memory wall switch, or you can pair it with a Zenwave scene controller for more flexibility. 26:55.019 --> 27:04.033 [SPEAKER_00]: You can use the RGB Dope, the RGBW dimmer for accent lighting under cabinets, behind screens, or ever crazy you can think to put RGBW light strip. 27:04.503 --> 27:16.102 [SPEAKER_00]: Zeus are also an official works with Home Assistant Partner, helping know we cast up by providing long-range devices for testing the Home Assistant Connect is added W8 to radio, so you know you're in friendly hands. 27:17.244 --> 27:25.498 [SPEAKER_00]: Zeus offer a range of affordable and individual devices, including water leak sensors, water valve controllers, smart plugs, and scene controllers. 27:27.318 --> 27:37.548 [SPEAKER_00]: There's then 78 high-power really allows you to control and monitor higher load appliances up to 40 apps, which is perfect for pool pumps, air compressors, and other high-power outlets. 27:38.810 --> 27:43.815 [SPEAKER_00]: So for the best prices on all Zeus products, head over to thesmartesthouse.com. 27:44.335 --> 27:46.337 [SPEAKER_00]: That's thesmartesthouse.com. 27:47.278 --> 27:50.842 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's talk some new integrations, Phil. 27:52.083 --> 27:54.726 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't get off with air patrol. 27:54.824 --> 28:02.971 [SPEAKER_03]: They've got some air conditioning units that you can now add in through home assistant through their air patrol Wi-Fi devices. 28:03.372 --> 28:04.212 [SPEAKER_03]: So go there you go. 28:04.353 --> 28:05.994 [SPEAKER_03]: I think sounds like it's a local too, so. 28:06.555 --> 28:06.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:07.395 --> 28:09.157 [SPEAKER_00]: You've got an E-Gage. 28:09.297 --> 28:14.101 [SPEAKER_00]: You can now integrate E-Gage energy monitors for residential and commercial applications. 28:14.702 --> 28:18.505 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to use with solar panel installations. 28:18.686 --> 28:19.787 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's available. 28:20.727 --> 28:23.650 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice. 28:24.423 --> 28:24.884 [SPEAKER_00]: cool name. 28:26.226 --> 28:34.558 [SPEAKER_00]: If you have a cool name, I'd type to that, but I didn't really, like, you know, you say, I'd get in one I'm so like it, plus plus yeah. 28:34.819 --> 28:41.949 [SPEAKER_03]: You can now connect your plus plus button to homocysteine for quick and easy control of your smart home. 28:42.050 --> 28:43.332 [SPEAKER_03]: I really like the name. 28:43.352 --> 28:50.262 [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't tell you what they do, but I'm fairly they have a button and you can connect to to homocysteine and 28:50.967 --> 28:56.154 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to do it, I don't know if there's like a plus, plus, but there's no fuss with this button or something like that, right? 28:57.075 --> 28:58.938 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, maybe it's a gap grade version. 29:00.600 --> 29:00.760 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:01.060 --> 29:07.469 [SPEAKER_00]: I can fish audio, maybe can I use fish audio as text to speech servers to generate natural sounding speech in the home assistant. 29:08.731 --> 29:11.955 [SPEAKER_00]: I've never heard a fish audio, I tried to get 11 labs. 29:12.976 --> 29:13.617 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 29:13.597 --> 29:17.883 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, but I just, I put the API key in and just, how Mrs. was erring out. 29:17.963 --> 29:20.286 [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't, then I moved on. 29:20.747 --> 29:22.209 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, maybe I'll try it at official audio. 29:22.930 --> 29:28.297 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there you go, fish, another, I guess, unique name and fish audio. 29:29.619 --> 29:31.681 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, of course I get these names. 29:31.902 --> 29:33.384 [SPEAKER_03]: Fresh Nath tracker. 29:33.864 --> 29:36.087 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I hope I'm not butcher in that name. 29:36.528 --> 29:38.811 [SPEAKER_03]: I apologize if I am. 29:39.247 --> 29:45.597 [SPEAKER_03]: But track the location of your pets and monitor their activity using the rest nap GPS trackers. 29:45.797 --> 29:48.842 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm guessing one of those letters is silent. 29:49.102 --> 29:49.964 [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't tell you which one. 29:50.244 --> 29:50.865 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah. 29:50.885 --> 29:51.887 [SPEAKER_03]: Think of that. 29:51.907 --> 29:53.669 [SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder if they are battery. 29:53.789 --> 29:56.874 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, are they obviously got a battery in the bit? 29:56.894 --> 29:58.256 [SPEAKER_00]: Are they like 4G? 29:58.737 --> 30:00.219 [SPEAKER_00]: Are they Wi-Fi? 30:00.700 --> 30:01.261 [SPEAKER_00]: Or how do you? 30:01.782 --> 30:03.545 [SPEAKER_00]: Or is it like you find my network, right? 30:03.725 --> 30:04.506 [SPEAKER_00]: Or tile network? 30:05.267 --> 30:07.110 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I wonder like, yeah, how? 30:08.491 --> 30:11.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, are they, is it reporting to base all the time? 30:11.318 --> 30:14.024 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause, you know, Kat runs away into the middle of the wards. 30:14.044 --> 30:16.049 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's no one around with the LIFE or Android. 30:16.069 --> 30:19.777 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're not getting a ping from a, yeah, unless it's got. 30:20.619 --> 30:26.112 [SPEAKER_03]: We should, we should do an episode on just chatting about tracking. 30:26.092 --> 30:29.096 [SPEAKER_03]: right like in an ethical way. 30:31.199 --> 30:31.399 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 30:31.479 --> 30:34.243 [SPEAKER_03]: As I said that it was like wait, backtrack here. 30:34.423 --> 30:37.327 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we are laughing about it. 30:37.347 --> 30:38.989 [SPEAKER_00]: There is like a lot of ethics around. 30:39.310 --> 30:40.211 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely. 30:41.472 --> 30:42.013 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. 30:42.414 --> 30:42.754 [SPEAKER_00]: As well. 30:43.715 --> 30:52.487 [SPEAKER_03]: Like my my kid, get a good track until until they're of an age where we're 30:53.176 --> 30:56.000 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to, then that's gonna happen, right? 30:56.020 --> 30:58.685 [SPEAKER_03]: Whether it's gonna be an air tag or whatever, right? 30:59.085 --> 31:02.811 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got some cool ideas I'd love to share those, but maybe we should do that. 31:02.831 --> 31:05.816 [SPEAKER_03]: We should do that, we can get to talk about it. 31:05.836 --> 31:09.281 [SPEAKER_03]: Give us a shout or a comment on YouTube or wherever you are. 31:09.321 --> 31:13.007 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell us if there's not something you care about, then if so, we can do that. 31:14.624 --> 31:20.132 [SPEAKER_00]: home link you can know in your home link devices to trigger smart home routines from the comfort of your vehicle. 31:20.874 --> 31:36.337 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm guessing they've got like yeah something in your car that you can then yeah I think home link is I think they're actual like third party company that integrate with different vehicles like I can picture their logo on different cars. 31:37.018 --> 31:38.100 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be like 31:38.452 --> 31:39.473 [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking of the same thing, right? 31:39.493 --> 31:43.517 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so from, from card or home automation, I'm just going to please my home control. 31:44.398 --> 31:47.801 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been part of your vehicle with this month, okay? 31:47.821 --> 31:54.387 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I think I've only ever seen them with like integrated garage store orphanages and stuff like that into vehicles. 31:54.747 --> 31:56.709 [SPEAKER_03]: I think those are home, like, how might people not? 31:56.729 --> 31:59.692 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so yeah, they can interact with a whole bunch of things. 32:00.012 --> 32:01.754 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing that's going to be like the US only. 32:02.455 --> 32:03.075 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there it is. 32:03.215 --> 32:04.196 [SPEAKER_00]: Like potentially. 32:04.276 --> 32:05.117 [SPEAKER_03]: Potentially. 32:05.654 --> 32:07.736 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do, yeah, I've gear up. 32:08.357 --> 32:12.842 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, they have, they look like they've got, um, yeah, sort of, yeah. 32:12.862 --> 32:18.568 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think like global car manufacturers would be hard-pressed to use something that's just addressing one solution, right? 32:18.588 --> 32:21.371 [SPEAKER_03]: Some one, one country or something like that. 32:22.152 --> 32:23.474 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 32:23.494 --> 32:24.214 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look at this one. 32:24.274 --> 32:25.596 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, look at this one. 32:25.656 --> 32:27.538 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you can have that. 32:27.618 --> 32:28.619 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 32:29.540 --> 32:29.741 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:29.881 --> 32:30.341 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 32:30.361 --> 32:31.122 [SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of me. 32:32.266 --> 32:40.680 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what's vision plus so if you have their smart heating system, you can now allow remote control of individual heating zones. 32:40.700 --> 32:41.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, go. 32:42.443 --> 32:45.749 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'll put it into the backward incompatible changes for 2026.1. 32:45.889 --> 32:53.582 [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to have a rent about 2025 or 12 for a second here. 32:54.052 --> 33:01.547 [SPEAKER_00]: So in, so really how I mentioned before that I have like 50 repairs in my home assistant instance, right? 33:01.567 --> 33:01.767 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:02.068 --> 33:02.288 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:02.989 --> 33:07.999 [SPEAKER_00]: So I religiously run the beta of home assistant, right? 33:09.622 --> 33:10.885 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:10.905 --> 33:11.065 [SPEAKER_00]: And I 33:12.260 --> 33:21.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Upgraded to 2025, 12 before I recorded with Frank to test out, you know, mainly to test out the close movement automation routines, which is the perfect specific triggers. 33:22.797 --> 33:29.728 [SPEAKER_00]: And as usual, the repairs went up and I just added them to the pile, so I'll get back to that later. 33:29.708 --> 33:37.615 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the repairs was actually for my EcoWit sensors, so EcoWit are my weather station. 33:38.476 --> 33:43.681 [SPEAKER_00]: So my how much rain I've been getting over the year for a month or that. 33:44.401 --> 33:52.108 [SPEAKER_00]: The repair was saying that the underlying statistic unit or measurement or something has changed from totally increasing something else. 33:52.128 --> 33:59.715 [SPEAKER_00]: So the repair was to wipe all my existing data and start again. 33:59.695 --> 34:02.682 [SPEAKER_00]: I know this is a beta thing. 34:02.722 --> 34:04.867 [SPEAKER_00]: I am definitely not hitting that repair button. 34:05.348 --> 34:06.611 [SPEAKER_00]: I will wait for it to be fixed. 34:06.691 --> 34:13.507 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I saw someone else have raised an issue against the beta, so I followed that GitHub issue. 34:14.068 --> 34:16.033 [SPEAKER_03]: See the issue seeing. 34:16.013 --> 34:17.817 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, why is it bleeding all my stuff? 34:17.837 --> 34:33.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's find a way to correct whatever is actually totally like they're all from my understanding and reading all these GitHub comments the underlying issue is that it is a total increasing thing like whatever, but the change that went into like in 2025 to 12 34:33.327 --> 34:37.777 [SPEAKER_00]: probably shouldn't be there from my understanding, maybe it shouldn't go back. 34:38.539 --> 34:42.027 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the upshot is that 2512 went out with this in. 34:42.227 --> 34:43.370 [SPEAKER_00]: It's still in 2026.1. 34:43.470 --> 34:50.205 [SPEAKER_00]: It has not been addressed as being multiple patch versions of 2025-12, so it was 1, 2, 3, 4. 34:50.185 --> 34:59.496 [SPEAKER_00]: there's a couple of pull requests with trying to come up with a solution for the eco-whip sensors. 35:00.117 --> 35:19.399 [SPEAKER_00]: Some people have come up with some Yamil code to have to use the customise option in home assistant to force home assistant to use the legacy or the previous 2025 or 11 way of storing values so that the database is, you know, 35:19.379 --> 35:32.601 [SPEAKER_00]: I just laughed about it because I think like it wasn't highlighted in the 2025 level, that's right, in 2025, 12 release notes as a potential, you know, backwards incompatible change. 35:32.621 --> 35:39.552 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you know, deleting data is, you know, it's a, yeah, it's not incompatible, delete it. 35:40.794 --> 35:43.058 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess that incompatible, but it's 35:44.000 --> 35:56.252 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I would also want to just highlight you few are using the integration and if you have hit the repair button, I would just encourage you to maybe try and download a back up or something, maybe the temperature's already been done there. 35:56.953 --> 36:10.767 [SPEAKER_00]: I am hoping somewhere on there will be a patch for this integration fixed because right now the I guess I was lost all of December as it's 36:10.747 --> 36:20.271 [SPEAKER_00]: long-term data, potentially now as we move into January, because those devices aren't putting data into the long-term C6 engine. 36:22.377 --> 36:27.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just frustrates me that it was 36:27.942 --> 36:37.018 [SPEAKER_00]: not highlighted enough or that, you know, it has, it's taking like, you know, this is done. 36:37.038 --> 36:38.801 [SPEAKER_00]: It's being deleted from people's essence. 36:38.821 --> 36:39.001 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:39.142 --> 36:39.322 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 36:39.482 --> 36:39.803 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not. 36:40.224 --> 36:40.444 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:40.504 --> 36:48.278 [SPEAKER_00]: And I would say, like, some people say, oh, you know, like you could put it into like any other system, I would take it out into exporting to confirm it. 36:48.298 --> 36:48.398 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 36:48.378 --> 36:57.330 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope this has like their long term statistics engine that we've more to, you know, storing long term data in the data way so that we can do some fancy automation rules and stuff. 36:57.371 --> 36:59.894 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's hard. 37:00.635 --> 37:09.708 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, if you're an ECO with user there, yeah, 2025, 12, did unfortunately, has introduced a break-in change. 37:09.928 --> 37:12.371 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say to your long-term statistics for your devices. 37:13.333 --> 37:16.377 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's wait and see if I can be wronged out for that. 37:16.795 --> 37:17.436 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:17.456 --> 37:17.716 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:17.736 --> 37:24.845 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I made me pay a lot of hitting a hair button on any of those things just together to touch it. 37:25.006 --> 37:26.708 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 37:26.728 --> 37:33.617 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe maybe yeah, maybe it's not a backward and cattle change, but it's a breaking change for if you care about the statistics. 37:33.637 --> 37:33.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:34.398 --> 37:34.518 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:34.538 --> 37:37.302 [SPEAKER_00]: Which I think a lot of people, that's why I have the weather situation, right? 37:37.362 --> 37:38.223 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, sure. 37:38.503 --> 37:40.926 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let's go back and look at that sort of stuff. 37:41.707 --> 37:41.888 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 37:41.908 --> 37:42.008 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:42.028 --> 37:42.128 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:42.985 --> 37:48.474 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, onto the 2026.1 backwarding compatible changes, cool master. 37:49.215 --> 37:52.260 [SPEAKER_00]: So the climate entity is provided by the cool master integration. 37:52.821 --> 37:55.405 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I use medium for the medium fan mode. 37:56.126 --> 37:56.747 [SPEAKER_00]: Makes sense to me. 37:57.388 --> 37:59.913 [SPEAKER_00]: And before the change, it was just mad. 38:00.894 --> 38:09.448 [SPEAKER_00]: If your automations are using mad when setting or querying the fan speed, you'll have to change it to use the full-term medium. 38:10.019 --> 38:13.263 [SPEAKER_03]: Unified Protect, suspect this one might affect a couple of people out there. 38:14.945 --> 38:24.017 [SPEAKER_03]: Select the entity, select entity state values have been changed from the original mixed case format to snake case format with proper translation. 38:24.077 --> 38:29.605 [SPEAKER_03]: So that just again, it helps improve consistency and localization and that kind of stuff. 38:30.245 --> 38:39.958 [SPEAKER_03]: So the Chin Type Recording Mode, Infrared Mode, Status Light Mode, HDR Mode, Doorbell Text, LCD Message, and a few of the others all are affected. 38:40.057 --> 38:49.054 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you have any automations that use that with your unify protect system, make sure you update them as many tastes. 38:49.523 --> 39:02.240 [SPEAKER_00]: the telegram integration or the telegram plot integration, allowing extra or unused parameters has been removed from the action of telegram block entities. 39:02.360 --> 39:09.690 [SPEAKER_00]: So only users who have used undefined parameters for the telegram block actions will be affected by this broken James. 39:09.750 --> 39:16.138 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're using very basic telegram block actions, you should be fine. 39:16.118 --> 39:24.747 [SPEAKER_00]: If you are affected, you can remove the parameters from the automations and scripts that are available to support, which I'll support by Telegram. 39:25.568 --> 39:26.369 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you should be good to go. 39:29.332 --> 39:34.378 [SPEAKER_03]: And last but not least, of our list, at least, VisaC. 39:35.218 --> 39:38.982 [SPEAKER_03]: The advanced sleep fan mode has been changed to advanced underscore sleep. 39:40.244 --> 39:44.168 [SPEAKER_03]: If you have any automations or scripts using that, update them. 39:45.245 --> 39:46.328 [SPEAKER_00]: That's 261. 39:46.628 --> 40:01.523 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's amazing that like even people going on holidays for December we can have such, you know, there's a lot of stuff in terms of release that would be all pushed into February and then February. 40:02.064 --> 40:04.249 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's going to be another massive release. 40:04.229 --> 40:16.768 [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to share something that I found outside of my Reddit or someone's email newsletter I can't, or maybe it could be a social account river where I found I'm sorry for not giving you props for that. 40:17.268 --> 40:29.106 [SPEAKER_00]: But the shadow SVG generator looks like a cool hacks integration so it can show the sun or moon position and shadows against a house. 40:29.086 --> 40:44.192 [SPEAKER_00]: So essentially you can get an SVG layout or outlight of your house and then this will then have a picture of it or a lot kind of a sun and then cast a shadow over your house. 40:44.375 --> 40:54.819 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is actually really interesting because I've always struggled with like the automations for my blinds based on what angle is the sun out, but the as in this, what's everything else. 40:54.900 --> 40:59.751 [SPEAKER_00]: This interaction allows you to see like a nice shadow of your house. 40:59.731 --> 41:08.783 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I guess, great for dashboards, but I'm hoping that you could then leverage that into automations, right, and make those automations a bit tighter. 41:08.964 --> 41:12.148 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I thought that was a really cool iteration. 41:12.288 --> 41:16.374 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice to see, you know, random hack things popping up. 41:17.595 --> 41:18.056 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:18.076 --> 41:18.877 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's cool. 41:18.897 --> 41:26.127 [SPEAKER_03]: But, and a lot of people have their dashboards as their, like, oh, it's right, like you saw something with your picture of your house, sometimes you have the home layout. 41:26.107 --> 41:31.484 [SPEAKER_03]: uh, whatever that looks like you can take that and wrap it in a nice, uh, SVG there too, right? 41:32.046 --> 41:32.507 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:32.527 --> 41:32.868 [SPEAKER_03]: I hate yours. 41:32.949 --> 41:36.079 [SPEAKER_03]: My house and here's the sun against my house, I guess. 41:36.801 --> 41:37.483 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:37.717 --> 41:42.665 [SPEAKER_00]: So yep, if you just go have a look, otherwise that's 26.1. 41:42.685 --> 41:53.023 [SPEAKER_00]: As you record this, we have guaranteed, yes, this goes out, so yes, it's on, I'm about to hang out from this recording and jump on a flight. 41:54.786 --> 41:56.349 [SPEAKER_00]: We're home, look forward to seeing you there again. 41:56.389 --> 42:01.277 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got a whole bunch of episodes coming out. 42:01.257 --> 42:08.886 [SPEAKER_00]: This month, you can also get access on our Patreon and YouTube members, otherwise see you guys in the next episode. 42:08.906 --> 42:17.517 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a lot of stuff you want to see out of the SES, if you can catch us in time between this airing and us leaving from CES, which should be there. 42:17.817 --> 42:20.300 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be there for a day or two, that time. 42:20.320 --> 42:23.724 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, give us a show, 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