[SPEAKER_01]: One man claimed to walk the corridors of time itself, the so-called sleeping prophet, a humble photographer from Kentucky, he entered trans-states where his voice changed, his eyes closed, and answers flowed.
[SPEAKER_01]: answers to questions about health, lost civilizations, human destiny, and the unseen mechanics of the universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Over decades, he delivered thousands of readings while apparently unconscious, speaking on everything from holistic healing and reincarnation to Atlantis, Earth changes, and humanity's spiritual evolution.
[SPEAKER_01]: His followers hailed him as a conduit to divine knowledge, his critics dismiss him as a product of suggestion, subconscious patterning, and wishful thinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yet some of his medical insights and historical claims continue to unsettle lingering in the space between coincidence and clairvoyance.
[SPEAKER_01]: What makes his legend endure is not just what he said, but when he said it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Long before New Age movements gained traction, his readings described ideas that would later resurface and psychology alternative medicine and esoteric philosophy.
[SPEAKER_01]: With a profit or projection, his legacy remains woven into the modern fascination with hidden knowledge.
[SPEAKER_01]: This casefile joined the theorists as we descend into the dreamlike depths of trance, prophecy, and paradox, with, and girl Casey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Alien theorist theorizing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Braden.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Zell.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Dan.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm Andrew.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we had a little pre-meaning before the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I must have rolled the fucking lowest dice roll on the short strike.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're all in that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is Zell was laying out a lot of paths from my understanding of what Zell was saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Zell later on a lot of paths before us of what which paths we could take as ATT as theorist theorizing, merging, unmerging, canceling, coke, zero, coke, regular, and I just want to let everyone know, here it is, that from now on, because of this decision that we all made, it was a resounding yes, hard for some, it was a resounding yes, across the board, we had it was yes,
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're, we're things are moving.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're moving a great way.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not stopping.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did things move or did they never move?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything is moving.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, even if you think it's not working.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is constant motion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like the universe, I like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, but listen, today we're talking about fucking Edgar Case first off.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is for that one motherfuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is for again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Say again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Edgar Case.
[SPEAKER_04]: Casey.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where you said it like this, we're talking about Edgar
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're just like fucking mushed as one.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not Edgar case.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was KKC.
[SPEAKER_05]: KC.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I fucking thought it was Belle case all day.
[SPEAKER_05]: It sounds like case.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it looks like it was case case.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like case.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw people were people read it out as KC.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is this episode for one motherfucker.
[SPEAKER_00]: One guy made two comments that was like, you had never talked about Edgar case.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't ever talk about Edgar case.
[SPEAKER_03]: We talk about it now.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are and it's all thanks to you Okay, so sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all this guys fall.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's his name?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me call him out here.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's his name here on Facebook please say Yeah, I'm gonna give you your full fucking government name, too, brother.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got your son.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whatever whatever information I can get for you Let's see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's he was like
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, never talk my egg gays in the second time I saw a comment like that for me I was like, you know what fuck this guy?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about him Um, but I don't see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll find the chair.
[SPEAKER_00]: Docs.
[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Docs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul.
[SPEAKER_00]: And listen, if this episode does poorly, you're banned from everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're banned from the group, you're banned from Facebook.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually might even write up right to Facebook, say you're a hacker or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you rub or scams, whatever I can do, make your life miserable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to, yeah, I'm gonna call, I'm gonna call your workplace and I'm gonna be like, this guy ruined our show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, don't be surprised if Chris Hanson's knocking on your door, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea about him, which is one of the reasons why we've never talked about him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'd never literally never heard of him until these two Facebook comments.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, all right, what's this guy's deal?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is this something we want to talk about?
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we sure?
[SPEAKER_05]: We've never talked about him on an old case, huh?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been brought not for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: I say we've definitely not.
[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't talk about him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's this in stuff?
[SPEAKER_03]: We would have talked about him.
[SPEAKER_03]: We probably talked about him during Atlantis.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this guy gets hit to tie.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't really hypnotize people.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just sleeps.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, he he'd to hypnotize people too.
[SPEAKER_04]: He got in the business.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was just hypnotizing himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let's go through it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You learn how to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then he started hypnotizing other people.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he's guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, who is this guy?
[SPEAKER_03]: Edgar Edgar Casey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Edgar Casey born March 18th, 1877 in Christian County, Kentucky to a pair of farmers as my grandfather.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was also born into a fairly, since it is called Christian County, it is appropriately super Christian.
[SPEAKER_03]: It must look like ironically, ironically.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the Muslim stronghold.
[SPEAKER_03]: Casey had expressed a very deep interest in the Bible from an early age.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had said by age 10, one of the things that is kind of claimed is that he would just commit it to actually reading the Bible from cover to cover each year, which I've only done once.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, one of the things that I read, I saw that too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I read this and I saw that he read it annually.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in one of the claims of why this guy is so fucking amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the times, just like one of the first times he ever read the Bible, he fell asleep on it and he woke up and he had read it through osmosis, like he didn't know what his fucking skill.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know when you wake up and there's like, it's you got that sleep face, he had the Bible verses just imprinted in his brain.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I remember them all and he was like, quote, new his mom, like, Bibleers just she's like, how did you read this?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, no, I fell asleep on top of the Bible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know all of the Bible.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was his kind of fame and I was like why is this motherfucker reading it after like why is he continues that Devote man He's now he's just reading it for finally opening each page and scooping the fucking words up and putting it as head He just 12
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's so funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I'm gonna read from now on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna open a book at work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like, I read this memo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna get it off.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you call it?
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you call that?
[SPEAKER_05]: What you call that?
[SPEAKER_05]: That's got to be a new word, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a reading by waft.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like what's the waft read a verb for that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember it's like that we can start doing the seminars.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know the space reading for the flash, the words.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can read 900 words per minute.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you only have to read you just for kids to know how to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Waff those words up there, baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: Getting into a trans, like, say, you make books.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you sell it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Get tapes out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Waff Don Fonix.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I have a whole industry now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, this is forget.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_00]: New direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, forget this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Waff Don Fonix, it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but that's the, like, that's, I was like, why does imagine right now, you fell asleep.
[SPEAKER_00]: You fucking smammerize the book, you memorized the book, falling asleep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're like, okay, I, I know every verse.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm impressing someone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're like, you're gonna manually fucking flip the pages after on if something you've already memorized, like, how boring would that seem?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's the Bible, so very boring magic.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I could get through wafting fucking Genesis.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, there's some pretty, there's a pretty fun part to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm supposed to pre-genesis.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Genesis, this is the Nephilim, and all that, all that shit, and the fuck of Flood.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't need to go off the screen.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't need to go off the screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to go off the screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to
[SPEAKER_00]: You got it, you got to get a double whafting in there, you don't, you don't ask it enough to get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, people are probably so confused about what you're talking about, because we've had his name where he's frowned in that huge whafs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run the bridge, he's run
[SPEAKER_04]: How's that jump, but that's not even the first story of how he learned that he could waft.
[SPEAKER_05]: You haven't even got anywhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're right, guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's already been seeing angels and fucking ghosts and shit before this happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you're way ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that like it?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be our unit.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got a nail on the fucking brain before this happened to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the waft, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of the shine, he's got, he's got the waft.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the waft.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us about the name of the brain, Andrew.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the extent of what I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got a nail in the fucking brain.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I locked his fucking pituitary gland.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK. All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought there was going to be more to that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he took that.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it was wine to back.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's born a group in Christian Valley.
[SPEAKER_05]: foreshadowing he can waft information out of books and through the ether or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: But as a child, like how does he, he says, he's a psychic.
[SPEAKER_05]: This guy's a psychic that he's known as a psychic, the sleeping profit, whatever you want to call him.
[SPEAKER_05]: So how does he get the powers?
[SPEAKER_05]: It starts the young.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So in all seriousness, at some point in his early childhood, he fell off a fence post and landed face first onto a board with a protruding nail.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that is one of the things that they say that might have unlocked his powers.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for where to hit him somewhere in the brain.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll try and look it up, but maybe in the frontal cortex, maybe you have to like, yeah, like how far did it go in?
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the skull skull from what I understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I led you to the nail pierced the center of his forehead where the third eye is located.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's why all of the third eye.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just got it for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just got it, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, that's legit.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's in his biography nails to the forehead.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how big of an nail you get.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he kept a time in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like how big of a nail is this?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like when we talk to him, it's in your third eye.
[SPEAKER_05]: How deep did it penetrate?
[SPEAKER_05]: Was it like a little Brad nail or something?
[SPEAKER_05]: Spike.
[SPEAKER_00]: It said it said the reportedly punctured the cranium and entered the brain cavity.
[SPEAKER_00]: His father quickly pulled out the nail.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're not supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: FYI, anybody listening, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you don't pull things out?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you leave a minute?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but.
[SPEAKER_00]: But where to get the host.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're allowed to pull things out like his father as long as you do what his father did immediately and poor Turpentine into the whole.
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes of the brain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it's the mix of like the Turpentine straight through die and then the turpentine being just that baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd let's probably with these guys are fucking like RFK they just die at blue and they sell it
[SPEAKER_04]: fucking methylene blue goes right in your mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just adds he immediately resumed normal play soon after Like licking windows and fucking eating cats shit kids are built different back then
[SPEAKER_05]: So he took a nail to the brain, and then the first story of him is like his father.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he, well, I've heard a few versions of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: One is father was like beating out for being a bad Speller.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's he fell asleep on his spelling test.
[SPEAKER_04]: What, what I read.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's how, well, the story goes the first one is he was a terrible Speller has father found out pretty much beat him.
[SPEAKER_05]: He kept on knocked out fell on the book, absorbed information of the book and knew everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, I'm just looking at, because I disliked in his injuries.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, other childhood injuries that may have unlocked his powers, a baseball hitting his spine.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's next, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The piercing is testicle.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where do you Google as you go?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, where do you, how do you jump ahead so quick?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because I had no idea about the fucking nail.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I looked up the nail.
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, what were Eggers' caseies injuries?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I didn't, I had no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know I'd be a person there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God, my God, my God, my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's our story.
[SPEAKER_00]: I sort of a government head boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're talking about injury childhood injuries.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bucky and I walk this condition.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got you got the stick to the testicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You killed my momentum.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stick to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a stick to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's no big deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we could riff on that big deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then then what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say I guess you got powers.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see there was one of those three or a combination of all three that gave Edgar Kasey access to the what he realized, you know, in early life was that sleeping was the key to this ability that he had to either absorb knowledge or he also reported seeing like, you know, we've been some type of spiritual medium.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you talked about,
[SPEAKER_03]: seen like the income portal form of his grandfather wandering around the house at some point and also a several winged visitations, which I think actually one of them was when the spelling anecdote that you said, I think there's a version out there where Casey said he heard the voice of a woman which he had seen before, some kind of winged image when winged figure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell him to fall asleep and then when he fell asleep on the book he he said that he woke up and he could spell Everything from those where's they were practicing that evening
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that's like, it's interesting because yes, he figured out he unlocked his powers by sleeping on stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, this kid has been seeing spirits and ghosts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he said, his grandfather did he, they died not.
[SPEAKER_04]: He died in a house fire or something, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And like this is something that can police freak out his entire family, but they'd come in and he'd be like, oh, I had a conversation with Grandpa.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is what he said.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like he would have information on the family that he would have no idea about, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: That would obviously be coming from his grandpa.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, so it kind of backed it up a little bit like they didn't really have any written record of any of these things to the point where you like got sent to go live with other family members, right, like his parents are kind of like we got off load this fucking little weirdo Weird for a little bit to his fucking that was an uncle
[SPEAKER_04]: It was pretty common back then too, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you would go stay, you'd have parents who'd have 16 kids and we were like, ah, more lived than expected.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we got offload a couple of these fucking kids for a bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's a mystery.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a stomach free labor over to the other part of the family, extended family.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, Casey unlocked his, you know, unlocked his sleeping ability is Osmosis or Waffenstein.
[SPEAKER_04]: How would his mind blasters?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then another facet of the the incredible abilities are ascribed to Edgar Casey would be the healing aspect of his powers and this the first one apparently like the first four ray into that.
[SPEAKER_03]: that Avenue of psychic powers was what Braden said apparently I think it's associated with the hit in the ball in the spine I guess when he was sleeping at night after the injury his family heard him muttering about remedies or treaters how to treat it and they did what he said
[SPEAKER_03]: said and then he apparently was he was impressed.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was it's interesting too because they kind of like they they talk about he was so he got hit in the spine by the baseball and he was knocked unconscious for a while after the event and when he came to his sister because it happened at school I think his sister described that he like came back possessed.
[SPEAKER_04]: different like angry he was acting up he was being weird he was like running home and fucking digging like he was like feral almost which you know when we're now that we're learning like a lot of times like people do get a little squirrely after they get hidden head injuries right like this is normal you know you're not really copus mentis after a significant fucking brain trauma well what's that sounds a bit he has a great word copus mentis copus mentis
[SPEAKER_05]: Meaning there's a sound mind.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at this guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at his guys with his vocabulary.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's guys smarter than we think.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I got a fucking nail with a forehead and I'm locked my fucking third eye.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, you've hit your head a few times.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have more powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, sure you don't have more third eye.
[SPEAKER_04]: My fucking powers are mislined eyes and fucking nightmares.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I got from head of three.
[SPEAKER_04]: He can't focus.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got our fucking glasses because it was bullshit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it honestly with like this guy like if that's how you got powers like I honestly feel like every single one of us is probably taking a headshot with one of those fucking ruthless school dodgeballs, you know the ones like the tethered ones
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not like rubber legs have their bonds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're 10 their balls.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, they're dodgeballs, but they're like they got a grip on them.
[SPEAKER_00]: RIP.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you the real rip and they've got to be full.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and make that fucking like yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, those are devists.
[SPEAKER_00]: Full face like full face and better than your face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it like sinks onto your face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no way you wouldn't be good powers to even eat one of those.
[SPEAKER_03]: So even though being a reported spelling genius and being able to absorb the information by just sleeping on books, Casey wasn't a great student.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did quit school or is reported to have quit school around 8th grade.
[SPEAKER_03]: He left this school in systems.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you know why he quit.
[SPEAKER_03]: He wafted all the books.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He jumped fucking grades like massive.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is a way better skill than the Matrix on the downloaded.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm kind of a library.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you go into library and legit, just like swinging in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he must have he must have still had an appetite for books because he did take several jobs after leaving school and like a think at least.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, two, three of them were in bookstores.
[SPEAKER_03]: He worked in like a lot of bookstores.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, he's probably doing a lot of lofty in there, perhaps.
[SPEAKER_03]: But one of the most significant jobs is he took a job as a door to door, insurance salesman, and it was during this time, like as his tenure, you know, while he was working as this,
[SPEAKER_03]: insurance ailment.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just felt he developed a kind of severe case of laryngeitis, which led to him pretty much like losing his like most of his voice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fuck a money maker.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm selling shirts.
[SPEAKER_03]: No voice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't sell people with it without being a talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he had to kind of step away from the job.
[SPEAKER_04]: As if you're showing up at people's doors like RFK, he could do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... in an effort to try and treat it because they tried all kinds of remedies went to all kinds of doctors and which all meant with uh... you know very uh... failures uh... and actually a hypnotist was visiting his town at one point and the case he went to go see the swimming
[SPEAKER_03]: Fibonetist who I guess who's, uh, you know, Hockenout Cures and he said that he could treat Casey for a mere $200, which I wonder you got.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't do $150,000, but $7,000, $7,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, fix that now, fix that boys from right now for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'd be talking right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the hypnotist, I don't know where Casey scrunched up the money from, but he paid the hypnotist.
[SPEAKER_03]: And hypnotist noticed something interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: After he placed Casey into a hypnotic state, or reportedly Casey was able to speak clearly while under the influence of the hypnotist.
[SPEAKER_03]: While in that hypnotic state he was able to speech perfectly.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when he woke, the voice was gone again.
[SPEAKER_03]: the voice was lost.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he could dream he could speak, but he couldn't speak.
[SPEAKER_03]: When he woke up, yeah, yes, allegedly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, you know, even though they, which means does he, so, like, Edgar doesn't know this.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this guy's like, well, see, kid, when you were asleep, when I had him dies, you were speaking totally fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's happening now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Must have been wearing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got more money, kid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the, well, no, the, the, the, the hypnotist told him like, you know, he was stumped.
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't know why his case would speak clearly while under, you know, hypnotized, but he couldn't speak while he was outside of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Casey himself figured out that this, that they were on the right track, and he put himself into a hypnotic state, which he called auto hypnosis, and while asleep as you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you put a belt around your neck and your claws, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what it is and while while under this auto hypnotic state Casey when ahead and he said that reportedly diagnosed what was causing his laryngeitis and also how to treat it
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... apparently it had to do with something about the circulation in his vocal quarters is not really clear and uh... there's said he was going to be able to repair it while in his trance uh... and that's how he began to like began his healing careers and so when he's unconscious in some type of different state he can access the
[SPEAKER_03]: records of the universe is, you know, you can meditate, you can realign your meridians and you know, focus your cheat and then put it all in together, circulated out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: How many meridians do we have?
[SPEAKER_05]: 12.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have 12 meridians.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some like they all going to be perfectly fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you mean fucking metaclorians?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean meridians.
[SPEAKER_03]: Metaclorians are just like tiny little silly things.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's when they say 20,000 metaclorians is like what's the count on that?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like 20,000 parts per million, 20,000.
[SPEAKER_05]: I also is at the concentration of the power level over 9,000.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it the, is it the density of 9,000, which is like over 9,000, it's like not that much.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm pretty sort of like Lord Beerus is like a fucking 9 billion.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he is.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's where we get new different colored hair and he's keep levels keep going up and up and like they should have kept the fucking power system in a nice linear line.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you know 100% who was a powerful.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I don't Android 17 wins a term into power somehow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who how now make any sense makes no sense makes no Fuck the yeah It's gonna find a way to make old characters relevant again, and we're like we don't need them.
[SPEAKER_04]: We've moved on They're gone, huh?
[SPEAKER_04]: Not pickle as orange pickle and it's getting like he was already a super dynamic Indian or whatever the fuck
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but now he's weakling, or just like, oh, he's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good joke.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like listen, I like my Nemekean's fucking green.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, that's it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pick a low had a nice glow up, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: He got him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't like he had a nice glow.
[SPEAKER_04]: How many fuses is this fucking nail?
[SPEAKER_04]: That was good enough for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was bad ass.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nail was a fucking G. He played his part.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not culturally appropriate.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, NEMICS are green, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need or everyone can have their own DBZ characters that NEMICS are green.
[SPEAKER_05]: And just like Edgar Casey, they could use telekinesis.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now that maybe Edgar Casey was like TN because he's got the third eye.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: On the on the route of developing further developing his psychic abilities, like Casey decided to put these things to work apparently.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, he was he was working a number of different careers while he was pretty much yet a long engagement.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he married to as a Gertrude.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is like a little fucking true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, they moved around a couple times, including a time where they spent a while under working as the KC petroleum company where, uh, he worked with a couple of people where they basically kind of marketed his psychic ability and trying to get investors that saying that he could find oil wells during like the oil low rush of that around that time being like moving down to Texas and being like we can find oil wells with the psychic abilities.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, didn't go so well.
[SPEAKER_05]: that was like because didn't didn't they have a son and the son died so she never really trusted that he could do it and yeah we're in yeah okay so it's also the second son and one of the son's died one of his son's died right japan had one line
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and so yeah, there were some things where Gertrude, you know, is actually like, you think she kind of maybe beyond bored with the whole entire, you know, his, his psychic abilities, but apparently Gertrude was kind of like a big like direct detractor at first.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the reasons being that Zell mentioned that their second son Milton had died, you know, it's like where were you at on that one hot shot, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's a good look for you when you're like, I can heal all I know everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then shortly after Milton's, you know, tragic young death, Gertude actually contracted tuberculosis.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, does he have a fucking cure for that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a little fucking therapeutic adjustment at the
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you if you believe the stories and you know Gertrude was treated for a tuberculosis by a number of physicians and then most of them kind of told them that you know nothing was going to be able to to help her and I think this is bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: The leeches, the cocaine, the cigarettes, none of it worked.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We try it all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Castor oil.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm your giver of water land.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: All that stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, I mean, it got from one of the other, one of the more, I guess dramatic stories is that she was pretty much like a physician wrote to Casey saying that, you know, your wife does not have long to live.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of her longs is not getting any air.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is extensive scarring and the other long, you know, you should make, make time with her.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, if there's anything to your, and you know, the doctor kind of appealing to the be like, if there's anything to these
[SPEAKER_03]: You need to know it now, now is the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, apparently I grew up performed a reading for her, and she got better.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this led to Gertrude's life-long supporting and ever husband's future, you know, helines and...
[SPEAKER_04]: Isn't that the Elizabeth Devers?
[SPEAKER_04]: Look at, like, what a woman.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's a fucker.
[SPEAKER_04]: Doubt's the guy until she's on her deathbed.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what it took for some support.
[SPEAKER_04]: Gertrude, like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You couldn't believe in the guy?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to door to door trying to sell fucking insurance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my god, I'm going here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and as you imagine him, Edgar two, he's like, he's he's doing his little psychic reading.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, comes back from his trans.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, there's no cure for the kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I don't believe you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, there's nothing in there, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you don't believe him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a, it's bullshit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never believe him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so as, you know, as as Edgar's as Edgar's a notoriety spread throughout, you know, the region, you know, he would, he would receive like letters, you know, they were like regular articles about him and like local newspapers and things like that and so people kind of came to know and be familiar with his abilities and that he was known for for these aliens.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he would receive letters and correspondence about people who are in dire straits or looking
[SPEAKER_03]: you know for someone to help them out heal them or one of their family members and uh you know it's kind of reported that for most of these healings all Edgar needed in order to diagnose or you know give advice about you know how to treat these people is that he just needed a person's name and their location.
[SPEAKER_03]: whether that was I think it was exactly latitude and longitude, but I think it was just kind of think you give them the general idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's in Maine, yeah, third house on the right, on, you know, Willow Street, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I'll sleep on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Make sure you get this off today.
[SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of what Casey was kind of known for, and this is kind of what also kind of keeps him relevant today, is that a lot of people would call, I think one of the titles that he holds is that he is like the father of holistic medicine.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of his diagnosis is kind of veered away from the, what was kind of the new though, reassured whatever the,
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of like the current medical stuff at the time like which was killing it by the way which was cocaine and you know a lot of that stuff you know kind of an extra shock a lot of yeah a lot of it stuff I'd kind of probably today it would even be considered quackery or whatnot but you know most of it you've seen anything else worked better with it
[SPEAKER_03]: most of the stuff that that the ones that did get better that it's like his recommendations on kind of boiled down to changes in diet more exercise and rest.
[SPEAKER_04]: What about that thing that had the fucking button in the throat?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You talked about that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I, so Dan, your Auguster are going to know this, but they used to make buttons out of a weird material that wouldn't show up on an X-ray, or X-rays back then.
[SPEAKER_04]: I forget I was like an animal fat or some shit, hard nanofat, potentially.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like this kid had a debiliting problem with the throat, he hypnotized him, and found out that there was a button in this kid's throat, which no one would have had any idea because it wouldn't obviously show up on an X-ray.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's weird though.
[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't really line up because like the way the symptoms wouldn't really line up with a button and throw up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just a button.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a button and throw.
[SPEAKER_04]: Save the day.
[SPEAKER_04]: If he say button like he's like this is obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a button lodging his throat.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like he was just comforting the kid kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you can tell what's going to he's like, I saw the button, I saw the button, to tell my dad's the fucking beat me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and a lot of it, a lot of it, like I mentioned, was kind of his approach to like changing like dietary dietary guidelines for a lot of these people who are a whole person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like RFK.
[SPEAKER_03]: So wait, you're telling me to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're telling me to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want me to tell you what they are like, is that like one of those things?
[SPEAKER_04]: This is something that we didn't even know as of 2019.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's pretty cutting edge technology.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here, the Edgar Casey dietary guidelines are here.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for breakfast, one should have cereals or citrus fruit juices, but never combined.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, put it in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fruit never.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whole wheat bread, eggs, milk or all.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're just having orange juice in the bowl with honey nut cereals.
[SPEAKER_03]: People do one should lunch on raw salads or vegetable juices, but never with vinegar-based salad dressing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, vinegar brissel dressing is a good though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, cooked to leave you vegetables or legumes with fish, foul or lamb in lesser quantity, uh, we're suggested as the dinner item.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, nice lean meats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: My dosis.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you want to keep those foods that are the more alkaline that is, uh, do not take red meats, no fried.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is no fried, uh, no fried foods.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead and sing out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: a seedic acid is to be avoided, so my doctor now, as our various food combinations such as starches and sweets, citrus juices, milk or cereal, and market milk or cereal, so don't put those two together.
[SPEAKER_03]: Multiple starches, oysters, and whiskey, coffee, and milk, or cream, or tomatoes, or and meats, all those, yes, they're all very inflammatory, that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So carbonated drinks are strongly condemned because the gases are detrimental.
[SPEAKER_03]: Except for beer, he recommended beer.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard dark breads are to be preferable to white.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and let's see, let's see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bo's a commercial.
[SPEAKER_03]: The, the, the, there should be a ratio.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a three or a good sourdough.
[SPEAKER_03]: Three above ground vegetables to every root vegetable consumed.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one leafy vegetable for every pod vegetable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, okay, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's good for your stomach.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you cook it, it apparently like releases some like better things that help you got Was it on JFK?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard the guidelines, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's on fucking egg your case.
[SPEAKER_03]: He Red wine is recommended if accompanied by dark bread.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know why I was saying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know it's because I fucking reached into the ether while I was sleeping and unlock some of Edgar Casey's work while I must have wafted some of it in.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we got I got to take a quick piss break.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't wait too many beers before but after the break we're going to get back into There's a little bit of Atlanta stuff Why people actually believe them and why people don't we fucking harp on it But yeah, I drank too many beers before we started and I'm back on the boo on the weed with the boo's it's like increasing decreasing my bladder capacity
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also you got a little older and I just find that the bladder just is the first thing to be like, well, that's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: It does start to let go of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're back.
[SPEAKER_03]: So one of the things that Kate Edgar Casey is probably most well known for besides his psychic healing abilities is the readings because this guy did
[SPEAKER_03]: 14,000 or 14,000 something document readings, which are all I think a lot of them are actually a lot of this it's probably like one of the well most well documented cases of kind of the the psychic readings and all of this stuff because a lot of this stuff is maintained by
[SPEAKER_03]: by like the association for research and enlightenment, which was like the KC Foundation, and still exists today out in Virginia Beach, like you can actually go there, and they still do stuff out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's just pretty much a holistic healing set.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if he was around like even like 60 years later, he would have been like a fucking
[SPEAKER_00]: Scientology leader, you know, like a cult leader like nowadays.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he had the opportunity to do that, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he got in for he got into like the oil and gas came for a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he worked with JP Morgan for a little bit like I can't remember it was one of the
[SPEAKER_04]: was a Boston Globe, whatever the owner of one of the major newspapers wanted to hire him to give him readings every day exclusively.
[SPEAKER_04]: But one of the stipulations was like they're like, I'm going to give you a thousand dollars a month or a week or something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the stipulations was he has to drive around in a black Cadillac and where a turban.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, no, I can't do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you could have been easy to sell for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's where I
[SPEAKER_00]: like that was one of his goals like a genuinely thinch thing sky had like well and or for the most part had good intentions but who knows well one of the things I read like about when like people would ask him where he got his gifts he would be like and they don't really well he'd be like I don't really know how I'm doing it it's just like I'm either like a god or something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: but it's never like he was like yeah he never really was like I'm the chosen one to do except he was he kind of like from what I read was like had kind of like a reluctant like confusion about how he was doing these things as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: His his he always did struggle with kind of reconciling his abilities with like his his really he had a very deep dedicated faith like Christianity like he was it is documented that he was very he's a very
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a very big Jesus guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, fan of the Holy Spirit, you know, and that dedicated to that cosmology and worldview of, you know, the father son of the Holy Spirit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of his readings, most of his readings were always framed around that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a lot of it, like the, a lot of Christian mysticism and stuff like that is like all of his, with the way that he would phrase and a lot of the,
[SPEAKER_03]: the ways that he would kind of relate his readings with all B stuff kind of either Bible references or stuff like pull from the Bible or Christian belief system any of that stuff we kind of come out like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the other things we're getting to probably has more things.
[SPEAKER_03]: like his most one of his famous things is Casey on Atlantis.
[SPEAKER_03]: He would, another one of the things that besides the Christian mysticism and those things in, you know, a little bit of the ossophie, is like he did also kind of become like a proponent of reincarnation.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the things that he was kind of famous for is that he would, when he adjudges his sleeping,
[SPEAKER_03]: do some of his auto hypnosis sessions, he would like regress into his former life as like a resident and I think he had like a couple of them that like couple different lives and the past lives of people who lived in Atlantis or were related to Atlantis.
[SPEAKER_03]: and there are details that he gave about Atlantis beyond what, you know, the plato allegory for Atlantis as it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Atlantis, according to Casey, was a real physical location, not a man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was located in the Atlantic Ocean, specifically.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you come up with that?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's in the Sahara.
[SPEAKER_00]: We learned this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It could be.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it wasn't necessarily one land mass.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, you know, separate multiple islands.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess, you know, joined in some kind of like confederation.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it just was destroyed, but not all at once.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a series of cataclysms.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the part I found interesting because we always hear as like it just like it just collapsed into the sea.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I guess it was a series of it kind of because it was a get a couple of them, but the final collapse happened around 10,500 pieces.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what date that's a good date right there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's that much side with?
[SPEAKER_04]: Much luck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Younger dry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so the, the Atlanteans were possessed of advanced technology.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it was in his readings.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does specifically kind of reference that they had access to some kind of crystal-based energy system.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think there was the mention of some kind of large, but it's basically the Disney movie with the giant crystals.
[SPEAKER_03]: of running like a powering a lot of the devices and the, you know, the ancient future technology of the Atlantians.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was their misuse of this technology that caused some type of geologic instability and then Lennox.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lennox.
[SPEAKER_03]: The dice cap by accident.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they had, I guess, you know, he talked about like the cultural organization of Atlantis, one of those saying that the society was split between, you had your spiritually aligned groups and your materialistic factions.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's also, I believe, mentioned that the Atlantians did have, the Atlantians like physically were like superior to us, like the regular human race, I guess they were, you know, taller, more robust.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they also had access to some kind of psychic
[SPEAKER_03]: the path of abilities, which some at legends you may have access to lofty and I heard.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Apparently there was a faction that would use these telekinetic, these psychic abilities to control others, which is a big no-no, but they said, fuck it, I guess, and did it anyways.
[SPEAKER_03]: but after Atlantis fell, you know, completely obliterated by the crystal nicks or, you know, too much whafting who knows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the, these Atlantean survivors, you know, there were survivors, that went and spread out amongst the, you know, where they went.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's take a guess, where they go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Egypt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Egypt, bands, one.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go back, you happy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Possibly maybe that might be an older, but definitely we got they went to the UK ten They went to like those jambles Central America Had to if all the pyramids and stuff Think of the god down in Asia East Island boom, Megalith Repony yeah, good good memory good recall.
[SPEAKER_05]: I forgot that was the real name
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to do a justice and not give it a Western name.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not be racist and called these trial and for Chris for the christian.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're up in Newy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's rep in Newy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're else.
[SPEAKER_05]: The moon.
[SPEAKER_05]: We know that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's about it though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shit, we don't have a doubt one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the buzz far as I got, I believe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and across, I think, you know, North America, I think at one point, and when during his readings, he said the mound builders of, like, that's what the mound is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Super mound, the Ohio Valley, and these places, I mean, some, but somehow related to it.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are those regulates on, like, Montana or something in the arson?
[SPEAKER_05]: They're like a crazy wall in Montana.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to look at that, yeah, check that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not a bad theory for this guy to be shootin' out when he did, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's, because it basically like Graham Hancock is that he's not saying it's Atlanteans that we're, that did this, but, you know, we talk about a, like, advanced civilization, an advanced civilization that may have given past on this knowledge to these places, and he's, this guy is kind of singing that same tune,
[SPEAKER_00]: right maybe he's often some details it to me it's like it's weird that they attribute this to as a mess because I guess he says it comes he says it'll rise again but maybe he meant the theory
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know, it kind of doesn't look in a Google, he's maybe he's looking at like Google analytics in the case of records.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, man, people are going to be fucking searching this again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it technically kind of would come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: So at Casey die January 3rd, 1945, you know, and so a lot of his, a lot of his readings and prophecies were all kind of like, have all been bound together and well maintained because
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, it was at the, what did I say?
[SPEAKER_03]: The Association for Research and Lightenment still went on, and I think was maintained by, you know, I think a couple of generations of his family.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they were keeping these things.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the, one of the predictions that people say, like, case, it kind of gives Casey credibility, or like, this is, this is his big bread and butter, is that he said that Atlantis would rise again, has been said, between 1968 and 1969,
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, it was discovered then.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Casey stated that a portion of Atlantis would rise or be discovered near Bimini in 1968 or in 1968.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this is probably one of his most explicit date base predictions.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of his predictions are kind of vague, kind of whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Bimini, and if people didn't know, is the westernmost district of the Bahamas, and it comprises a chain of islands
[SPEAKER_03]: And on September 2nd, 1968, while diving about five and a half meters or 18th of a water off the northwest coast of North Bimini, Joseph Manson Valentine.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, they encountered what they called a pavement.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it looked like these, these, well, these kind of geometric, clean, cut large slabs of frock or, you know, mineral or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they used to make a little thick stones down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, and they found the they were noticeably rounded and they looked like they could possibly have been human made and They let this was a lot of triggered off a lot of discussion and revisiting of Casey's prediction and you know Other I don't know how you can quantify any of this is Mrs. this guys hitting
[SPEAKER_04]: He's bad enough fucking hundred.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: In this case, he's the minus one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so this was one of his big hits.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, this is always kept, you know, Casey, a little bit relevant.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it wasn't his only prediction.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't his only date specific prediction.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of his other predictions is there is going to be a major poll shift in global destruction around 1936 to 2000.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, again, that's something that we talked about, you know, that's talked about now, it's like the drifting poles and if they were to flip in reverse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we win all the world's conferences.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we talk about reverse the 180 degrees.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, he was like, there's going to be dramatic pullshifts, massive continental of people, widespread destruction of cities, and pretty much like this would happen before the end of the 20th century as one of his.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like he made it sound like it was like, remember that guy Charles Hapgood in the continental, like, crossbow displacement, where it was like the Earth was like, just spins, and all of a sudden you're at the North Pole and you freeze to death instantly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, something like age after day after tomorrow, yeah, yeah, I can Quaid to come and sell in a sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's right because right now the like the polls are Excellent like flipping but they're drifting like and they're like seeming like they're speeding up
[SPEAKER_03]: And with these, he also went on to detail that he thought, you know, he believed from his readings and that portions of the United Eastern United States, including New York, with an experienced major destruction.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is all before the 20th century is what he was predicting, pretty much like they would be underwater, you know, algorithm predicts that too in the year 2000 or whatever it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess, you know, he also predicted that California would.
[SPEAKER_03]: partially or totally sinking to the sea at some point, like Escapra MLA, Kurt Russell, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the one I mean.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm thinking I'm like, you know, you hear that and you go, okay, well, that's a little crisp, but it's like, it's on the fault line.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a fucking massive enough gigantic quake, like we all grew up being told like, any day, it's coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any day, it's coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did the big ones come in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that could be a little bit of reality.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, so he's not far off and it's like was there enough science and data back in for them to know that that's a thing that they're good You fucking massive earthquake.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know if they knew what tectonic plates really were and before 1900.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they're having earthquakes for sure for sure They probably didn't know what it was though
[SPEAKER_05]: and they didn't have an idea that the gods are angry and they're like fuck this is california masturbated too much now the world shakes but they wouldn't know california's on this point played the tecconics discovery evolved from an Alfred weggerner weggerner's 1912 theory of continental drift on 1912 the theory was
[SPEAKER_05]: in the scientific journals.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it still took years after that to be called.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Edgar was whafting it.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's whafting it in.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's whafting it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's whafting it in the sense of like geological time.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's pretty accurate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like that will happen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like if we're if the we're going with like the we're billions of years old the planet and you say like it's going to happen like he's going to be right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he was given.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean he was given dates at this point.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but he's going to catch records are using the different like masterstone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what does going on in the
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it could be 1930s after you know he was he was totally different timescale Well, who knows what the future the when this happened what kind of calendar system they're using maybe they've reset it a couple No, we all know Jesus is coming back and then it's gonna start at zero again, and they'll be a know that was that was supposed to happen in 1998 That car is that what we're doing is that what we're doing every time he comes back.
[SPEAKER_00]: We just fucking yeah There's gonna be an it's gonna start and then zero out.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's gonna be like BC They're like BCC and they're gonna keep going back every 2,000 years or whatever it is
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a little late though, if it's over 2000, it's a little late.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: My mum's saying it's going to show me the deal.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was late.
[SPEAKER_03]: The current case he was like he was going to come back in 1998.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's late a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a geologic time.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's fashionably late.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I mean, it could be a bit to blink when I for him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not constrained by a time.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a spiritual being.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think they were he also called that there was going to be massive changes in Europe's jacquit free like it's an entire thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think parts of Western Europe were going to sink.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, new land and new land was actually going to come out of the ocean.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that was a Superman, Return of Superman was it was that there was just going to be a new complete land mass was just going to rise up out of the North Atlantic.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think, uh, is it not what happens when if the ice caps were to melt like suddenly?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like the weight of the ice like it's the ground like sponges back shoots back out of the water if you're just evaporate all the ice instantly
[SPEAKER_05]: I've heard that before.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's exactly what we've heard about ground elasticity due to glaciers melting.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't made it up, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't gone down that far.
[SPEAKER_05]: Buddy, don't you have a fucking profit too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I'm wafting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you wafted that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're wafting right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't go to the library with Nova not that long ago.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I could have gone through that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that could have a lot of stuff in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've been mainly kids books.
[SPEAKER_05]: Scooby-Doo.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like to be fair the only thing you're wafting at our library is fucking mess It's horrible It's like in clone of there's this like they built a super nice library like three years ago.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's super nice and all around it Junkies dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: You try and take the kids in and there's like live in the entryway.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're like, oh, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: Hey
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, for you just face the bathrooms, yeah, it's all in the living.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're waffle.
[SPEAKER_04]: They watch the, they get on the computers.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're fucking good for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad for the librarians.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to, they're so cute.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty angels.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so I mean, there's, there's a lot of predictions that he threw out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, did he, did he, did he, did he?
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls was not one of who I can't remember is one of his one of the ones that he's also yeah one of the things that he's kind of always said was that there was going to read a discovery of the hall of records which had to do with Atlantis
[SPEAKER_04]: problematic when like all these prophecies and everything are like being shared now by his own like company essentially or the foundation and his name they are you know it's like of course they're like grandiose and good and well isn't that what they're like isn't the left Paul the one they want to light our because he he's not the one that's what he said that I mean that's that's from him yeah it comes from him
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the things that's really interesting I thought is kind of funny, and I think we talked about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We might have mentioned Edgar Gacy on during the Pyramids thing because one of who's considered the foremost authorities on Egyptology in the United States, as Mark Lainer was actually, he was inspired by Edgar Gacy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he, a lot of Edgar Gacy's predictions and a lot of his descriptions of the, you know, how the records and these, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: to build the pyramids and some of these megalithic structures was shared by the Atlanteans to the Egyptians, Marklinger kind of said that a lot of this stuff was his impetus for becoming an Egyptologist, like studying Egyptology and becoming what he did and went to go work on and he's made a number of discoveries and kind of pushed Egypt topology forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like he was actually like he was actually I think some of his stuff was actually funded by the association for research and enlightenment like he had a very close relationship with them as as Casey was one of his kind of a, you know, role or his.
[SPEAKER_03]: inspirations for for that and to actually kind of become an Egyptologist.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're just kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even though a lot of stuff to you discovered is like, oh no, like the Egypt were built by like actual workers that had camps there and stuff that they've excavated and kind of that stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he's still a national project, Dan.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just a fucking national project.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it's a lot of that stuff is still pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of has some lasting power because like Andrew is saying is like, is he, yeah, he does have a pretty good PR team with the legacy of his association for research and like it must be on like a great grandkids now or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the it is just it just the association for research and enlightenment has just changed hands into the first person who is not a casey like I think there was like three success of generation because he died in one of the 50s or something right like 45 45.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so that's like that's like a great big someone's great grandpa really Yeah born in just before 1800 18 what 18 80s or something 18 90 18
[SPEAKER_05]: 1877, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think this is now it is now run by someone who is not directly related to the first part two is not directly related to aggregation at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it is still there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you can still go.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have lectures and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I looked I was looking at their website the other day for something.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't for this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was for something else that they popped up by
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they still do stuff out there, um, I think they were, I think they had like a special viewing of that age of disclosure film at some point, like I was looking at their calendar where they all slept and went into chances.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, so in the end, pretty much, there's a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_05]: who swear by Edgar Kasey's life and all of he's done.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of people who say he's maybe not like a grifter himself, but he was kind of like manipulated into being one, because people made money off of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, some of his predictions were weird enough with what's like what we know now, and I'm just like, I don't believe that he would have the knowledge to make these guesses.
[SPEAKER_00]: making this and like it wasn't an exact science but it's like he was getting information from somewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: or just like really good at pattern recognition and like making good, really sound predictions that like hit close to home.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate listening.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Simpsons writers have been there in a few years.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they have taken a page out of it for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, I never got the like grifter sense from like reading about them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I agree that like yeah, I felt maybe that people took advantage of him and used him too, grift.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like when you hear him, it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a lot of times we kind of will talk about someone like, yeah, fuck that guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he sucked, but he's like, I don't know about this guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, from the things like I was bred.
[SPEAKER_04]: He said, Well, times.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like he, he went broke several times from all accounts and seemed like he, uh, like he believed in what he was doing, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: He believed he was making a difference helping people, which is no harm in that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, a lot of people point to like the, what are their goals that you give people?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's looking whack fucking advice though.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're definitely is.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so the 12,000 cases are like, what was the analogy given at the start of the episode?
[SPEAKER_05]: And she said, what was yours?
[SPEAKER_05]: And black and squirrel blind squirrel blind squirrel blind.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mine's not once a while.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's always braids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Braids dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Spades dead.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's fucking saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Broken clocks, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Twice a day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Broken clocks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Twice a day.
[SPEAKER_05]: That kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he made so many predictions.
[SPEAKER_05]: but the lore only really includes like his top 20.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like one we didn't really talk about but one of the ones they point to is he was making a reading on a guy and he wasn't in his apartment and he's like always actually on a train the train's late because they're car accident and like they supposedly that was verified and I see he's a profit and then he gave him the medical information once he got back to the apartment.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's the odd one, but out of 12,000 or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, a couple of people like, man, like, then just, and even like the information that you say he gave, like, just the general basics of health, eat better, sleep better.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's just chains or just a chain change and diet, I guess, you know, not even if it's, I mean, it's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not recommending people get radical surgeries or anything, like that, you know, basically just change up your diet.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all like a second like a parent now, but back then like people were fucking shocked when they learned that they should fucking wash hands before fucking free school greatest what human achievement of science and like medical health wash your hands.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they fucking doctor started was like heresy when they for when the guy suggested it being not doing it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're like that's fucking retarded.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not doing that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's safe killing a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who thought doing was a surgery and then doing a surgery on someone else with washing hands would have been a good idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's doing a surgery, taking a bread and scratch your ass and getting right back in the fucking scratch your ass.
[SPEAKER_05]: If I get back in there deliver a baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's all good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we're the babies dead.
[SPEAKER_04]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing new that fucking corpse.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was just doing an autopsy on everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but so I'll end that a lot of people point to like the consistency of how it went about.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like just like it was always name hypnosis.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like a very regimented.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was almost like a medical procedure.
[SPEAKER_05]: Even Oaxi wasn't considered medical.
[SPEAKER_05]: So people point to that, and the ongoing research because of it, and like, the, just the lore behind it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do I go out?
[SPEAKER_05]: If it wasn't, it wasn't grifting, but it wasn't a bad guy who's trying his best, and he might have actually been a little psychic.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the other side are like, well, there's actually no scientific validation of blind trials or anything that you could actually like measure.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, I have a lot of like vague language like I feel that Or I think that like of not like you have a tumor in your left lung, you know
[SPEAKER_05]: And then like, really spell it all for people.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a lot of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: They said, yeah, a lot of them, they said, like, the, you know, some of them, you know, they're saying that the conditions that people that people who did get better, they're like, they would have gotten better anyways.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if it wouldn't have.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they'd buy who knows.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like, you know, there's a lot to be said for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there was one kid that came and saw him that was, like, supposedly, definitely ill or no, she.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was developmentally impaired for whatever reason, and he's like, oh, she's got a lack of blood flow to her brain due to a pinch something in her back.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, uh, fucking a couple of chiropractic adjustments, and she'll be right as we're going to take her down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she'd get kicked by the donkey, and then she was fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's a little fuckin' seems like some fluff in to me, but hey.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the Edgar is the Casey lawyer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's a very interesting thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Adam's pretty much like you've never heard anything about him, but it's like, I've heard about him talk to everyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you've ever had like an entry, like a passing interest in Atlantis, like whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like he's he's on there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we talked about him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like when we did Bob Avenga originally, we all talked about Edgar Casey in the episode I'm pretty sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: not as much as like a brief.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, his him and well, him and it's probably Blvd's case that you're thinking that may mean blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because Blvd'sky, H.P.
[SPEAKER_03]: Blvd'sky, a lot of people will compare the two, like some of Casey's predictions, kind of pull in some of her stuff too.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they are both, they became popular figures in the esoteric circles themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of yeah, it's like between the two you're like you got a lot of cool stuff to go through if you've ever two of the most well documented You know figures and esoteric The occipity whatever, you know, there's a lot there's a lot of reading to do in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It could probably do like six podcasts about Like one one's good One's good One's good Anyways, we got one more beauty this week It better be that much of a question a good case.
[SPEAKER_05]: I hope so
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