[SPEAKER_02]: What is up, everyone?
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Comic Book Club, I'm Justin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am Pete.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we are here doing it like we always do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Always just the two of us never more like dark lords of the Sith.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, two and only two and no one else has ever there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a bone cold in New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're all dying out here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, this is normal for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You live in some sort of snow belt.
[SPEAKER_02]: People don't know about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They see the comic boxes there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Around that is an igloo.
[SPEAKER_02]: He lives in a house of ice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, how are you doing tonight?
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... it's uh... it's uh... it's crazy out here the world's uh... insane but uh... you know i'm happy that we get to talk about comics i'm excited about our show and our amazing guests so you know i'm hanging in there man hell yeah well you know what let's get to it i'm very excited about this book um... we have a great guest uh... she's the writer of first freedom the story of opalie and juneteenth please welcome out to our rectangles on jelic rosha
[SPEAKER_00]: I love this good record.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for letting me be in your rectangles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, it's always well.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's rectangles with in rectangles.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all the world is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Long as we're not being squares.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had the option to do squares.
[SPEAKER_02]: We said hell no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're pushing for rhombus, but we're never going to get there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, actually, let's talk about this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: He tells us about the book first.
[SPEAKER_02]: First, freedom.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the book, the first freedom story of Obole and Juneteenth is this.
[SPEAKER_00]: mix of biopic tells about the life of Dr. Opoli, who people call the grandmother of Juneteenth, because she's always been extremely passionate about helping people, but she got a little bit of a fire after she retired from her day job helping kids in school to continue helping the community and eventually decided that she was going to walk to Washington, D.C. to raise awareness.
[SPEAKER_00]: to make Juneteenth a national holiday.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's got this really incredible story, but we also blend it together with some real history, including the history of Juneteenth, the history of why it's called the first freedom as well as some other key points in history that happened during this Opal's life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, so what's,
[SPEAKER_02]: the getting into the book like the book has like I love the story structure like you like you're saying you jump around in time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's when you're telling anyone story, how did you come upon that as a way of sort of getting into it and being able to incorporate so many other sometimes dramatic events into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the thing about approaching a story of a person who is a century old, is it like, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: Overwhelming about weird cards.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was like to approach it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like to we you like went out of your way to be like, I'm going to bring this in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you're like you even went in deeper than you, you know, quote and quote needed to.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think for me, it was talking to Dr. Lee, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like having these conversations, listening to the stories that when she'd smile or things that I felt like were important or things that seemed
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put it this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes we think about our heroes.
[SPEAKER_00]: We think they're perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We never they've never made a mistake.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've never been madly deeply for the wrong person.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've you never had to go through all of the things that all of us go through.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was really important one to keep the authentic misopolean it like he still has this energetic.
[SPEAKER_00]: very joyful, hopeful, almost like when you're a kid, you're like, no, but let's do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you do it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so part of it was, I love to win this opening told the story about the buckets and I won't give anything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it felt like it had to be in the book.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[SPEAKER_00]: But also that night at the White House at the holiday party was real.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was this opportunity to show that contrast of 1936 on a farm in the middle of Texarkana is where she starts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the next thing you know, the president of United States is acknowledging her name at the White House.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, just on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what was it like being there?
[SPEAKER_02]: And are you like scribbling notes on like a very tiny notebook or is that working?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I used to work on Capitol Hill.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I had an opportunity to have gone to the White House that in my past job as a new foundation.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's every year for the holiday party is something different, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Every year,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's the big thing, the first lady gets to decide how all of the rooms are decorated and every single president makes it different.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was kind of incredible this year because this dog's couldn't be there because I don't know if you know the story about your Biden dogs there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we're not people dogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, not hanging out a commander.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe was the name that was.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are a great commander and no, yeah, and so commanders like in this little stuff like he's represented as a stuffed animal and Joe Biden also had a cat president Joe Biden also had a cat so stuff supported a fun cat, but yeah, right less reported upon, but it it's always incredible seeing.
[SPEAKER_00]: the kids' choirs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And seeing people look at this winter wonderland.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Alvin Eps did such an incredible job capturing the hallway where Ms. Opul is walking down and like all of the snowballs are just hanging with the eye sickles.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was wonderful seeing her because it wasn't her first time at the White House, but she was just as excited as if it was the first time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, that's so you go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I just loved that you you brought up the artist.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love the art style of the book as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, it's so informative and such and so it's a great way to tell this story that kind of makes you feel like you're part of the journey, which is so great.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, he talk a little bit because there are these just amazing panels that you feel like you feel such a motion, uh, they do, uh, the artist has such a great job of capturing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can you talk a little bit about like, maybe why you went with the artist that you did or how you guys kind of like talked about bringing these panels to kind of life.
[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to Megan Brown, who is my incredible incredible incredible editor, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: She went out of her way to find some really amazing artists.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Alvin, Bex, Millisant, and also I'm going to shout out the colorist.
[SPEAKER_00]: Demali, the variations in color, the variations, and like adding texture into the color was so important for us to ensure there was also tone diversity.
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
[SPEAKER_00]: They did such an incredible job at ensuring, and let's be real, I was also like, no, that's not the kind of car, this is the kind of car, and I sent them about, for each section, they probably got about a 50-page photo reference.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm, wow, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thing to go with it, because it's hard to explain to people,
[SPEAKER_00]: what you mean by pig tails in 1936, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because most people have one image of how a little girl would dress in 1940.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was a big deal to make sure we had those variations.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, these pages.
[SPEAKER_02]: How appropriate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I love all the research that you had on hand, especially like you don't hear about a lot of books that are graphic novels that are where you at first hand interview with the subject.
[SPEAKER_02]: What was that like?
[SPEAKER_02]: How did you, it's a lot of translation you're doing here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's let's, so I've spent a lot of my, my career interviewing people.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's I've been very lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: where I've had some really incredible interview with folks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've interviewed one of the first people who was on the first reading writers, but I've had some really incredible opportunity, but also like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Holland.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: For Waterloo.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is very different.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the Tom Holland story.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next graphic novel.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoops.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but it's the way she made space.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, we worked really closely with Diane Sims, her granddaughter, who's also portrayed in the book, who has been absolutely incredible and now is like,
[SPEAKER_00]: per right and left hand and getting a chance not just the interviewer.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the way we did it, it wasn't just an interview.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we went down at that first week as a week before Christmas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and we helped wrap the Christmas giveaway boxes, we went to church, we had two couples farm, we went by the house a couple of times and I had the privilege of going back again and just like writing on a day with her.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm seeing how that day went and her getting dropped off or speaking engagement and you know that did you know that that's what you're going to do going in that feels like impromptu or like very meticulously playing the speaking engagement this the second trip was very kind of impromptu like I knew I wanted to go to Texas for cannons see the families land.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew I wanted to go to Wiley College so we can have a better understanding because Wiley is actually quite a small college, but
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to see if we could do any additional research.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even when I went to Texas, Arcana, they like connected me with another close cousin.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we can do more conversations.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I interviewed Ms. D on and her children.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the first trip down, I was lucky enough we had a camera crew come with us, because I also want to make sure we got the references, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because these aren't references, it's just all Google Fort Worth in 1940.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't get the specifics now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not getting the specifics of that side of town.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so it was pretty incredible getting those little story benchmarks.
[SPEAKER_00]: But once we did all that, I'm like, and now I have to go back and find the actual dates for everything that she just said.
[SPEAKER_00]: because when she said, when I'm younger, she meant 40.
[SPEAKER_00]: She had mean 16.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: When a 97-year-old woman says, when I was younger, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's got to mean 80, like you don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, and look, to be that lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's so much more of our life that just wasn't going to fit in the book,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just getting a chance to talk with her, just getting a chance to see her files, getting a chance to see what she saves.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even as things she didn't talk about, so there are things that she didn't talk about that were just once you start pulling the string, you find out.
[SPEAKER_02]: What can you say, what that is?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think so, finally,
[SPEAKER_00]: not nothing in like a bad way, but like, yeah, find out she was a chair person of the MLK parade as well and you find out that she's featuring this book club and she was like Fort Worth's Texas woman over the year in, you know, the late 90s early 2000s and that she was a precinct chair and she had started this other organization that gave scholarships and just like
[SPEAKER_00]: When did you sleep?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I feel like, I mean, just based on learning about her from your book, like, her life was huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not gonna remember everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: In my life, a she lived like nine lives.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And raised four kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: that is wild, getting in a little bit deeper into, into that, like there's a lot of, talk about the mirrors.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the mirror is very important in this story.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, one of the hardest parts of the story was figuring out where to start.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that particular first page, which I loved to death,
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like Miss Opel was carrying her younger self around with her all the time, anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to find a way to bring things full circle in that man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to convey to people who have always had running water, most people, right, who generally know what a phone is, and they know what a computer is,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, ring water in from out that, how do I convey the, like, how, how much life she's had and being able to contrast that because I really wanted people to see that her personality, her faith, her ability to want to do for others was rooted in what her family would have done.
[SPEAKER_00]: and how people took care of each other and how people made sure everyone was okay and I wanted that to start on the farm because she had such fun memories of it and that's what had led her to starting Miss Opel's farm and getting to the farm to table and why I was so important for her to do these food banks and eventually I was like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Can we just do this and like, pull the audience through the mirror?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, work really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really, what I liked about it, especially, because yes, it helps us sort of get the window in.
[SPEAKER_02]: but it felt like it helped really capture like the child like joy or like the she was able to maintain especially hearing what you're describing being with her this like energy and purity of a kid throughout a life of like living through an amazing amount of history yeah that was just a great way to get that image across right at the top of the book a question from easy reader how long
[SPEAKER_00]: The first year was mostly research.
[SPEAKER_00]: My editor had to pull me out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was always something else.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was always like, oh, here's a photographer who took all of the pictures that I was finding.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I got to get his book.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, with algorithms and databases, like you're never going to find the same thing each time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But putting those dates together was really important to me, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: If something happened during the Great Depression, then it explains why someone was looking for work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: If someone's parent, like her dad went into the Navy after her parent split, like, that makes sense because it's World War II and Korea, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, and I wanted those things to make sense because that history so many times is told out of context.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, it's,
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it creates a barrier to us being truly able to relate to it, and then negative is like, I'm going to need you to write the book, so the outline was made while I was doing the history, and then we really did a process where the family looked at it and
[SPEAKER_00]: the family would give feedback of something needed to be shipped, shipped in, and there'd be certain times or I'm like, nope, that hasn't been, I'm so sorry, I have the, because that's a lot of times what had to happen for me not because I was pushing back against them, but because I was trying to put the book in a decently chronological order, because as you know, that is sometimes get sacrificed when it comes to condensing things,
[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to know if they got married before or after MLK was shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know if he was just over for dinner or if they were living together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that would change the way I depicted the scene.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, that was something really important to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that process continued, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like every time I get stuck, I'd make sure I double check.
[SPEAKER_00]: And but I was really great going back and forth with the family and there's a number of times you're like, yeah, that didn't happen like this or she might not have said it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you were an actual nickname.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now you said that you did work on Capitol Hill and DC, it's a, that's I'm sure we don't want to get into that perhaps, but
[SPEAKER_02]: to talk about sort of politics for a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't imagine why politics would be something you know when to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, I mean, to touch on a little bit at a time when history, especially Black history, is literally being erased from everywhere that the government can get a chance on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: How did that feel working on this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And like you're just saying, like being getting even more specific with the information and being a steward about this information to tell a police story.
[SPEAKER_00]: more determined to put in every single reference that I could without overwhelming the story.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was really the big thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like even the businesses she goes to where they're making their drop-offs at that point of the book with her mom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are based on real, fourth, worth businesses that no longer exist.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they reference real people, like William Goosnek McDonald was the first self made black millionaire in Texas and he became the first black chair of the Republican party and started a bank, right, like these people made such an incredible impact that you can look up
[SPEAKER_00]: And that beauty salon, thank you for agreeing with me, Duma, beauty salon is there, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, you then go down rabbit holes, you're like, don't go down the rabbit hole of learning about Dr. Baker's story, walk away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love how much you're stopping yourself from doing research.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like people get don't love research, I think, but you're like, I can't do any more of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not allowing me to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I love it because it does dictate like, what's her dad still in a house?
[SPEAKER_00]: What's her dad not still in a house?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, because you want the story to be accurate.
[SPEAKER_00]: And luckily, you know, my dad's a librarian.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a librarian.
[SPEAKER_00]: I teach black history in African American, rhetoric and culture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am missing a fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can sense a missing fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: The absence of fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a couple questions here coming in.
[SPEAKER_02]: One from a stray bullet, who is our chef down in New Orleans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stray, Angelique is in New Orleans.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's where she lives.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is on the nerd wall?
[SPEAKER_00]: That is
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't remember the full name of it's like big marbles where he did all his work about his um, his variant covers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a big fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's science.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, good dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what's on there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's more stuff on the other side of this nerd wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's lots of comic books that I hung up, but yeah, that's
[SPEAKER_00]: That's got it on.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the one, that's the prime position.
[SPEAKER_02]: I should say that when we first got on with Angelique, her first question was, Pete are those long boxes or short boxes, which baller question, no one's ever asked that before, so it shouts to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, do I need to worry for your safety?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we always do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Easy even to also ask, does Angelique still get to read X-Men comics?
[SPEAKER_00]: I read them for fun now, but yes, I do read the fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to read them for work anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's going to be enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_06]: The strong comments have been unbelievable lately.
[SPEAKER_06]: So good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mirawat is...
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's an incredible writer.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had him on here and he also is so like energized about doing that book so excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I don't know how you're doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Moving, the way he moves between big ideas and jams, I'm like most people try that and it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's somehow like dancing to the random drops of that book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even through the major revelation, he's still fucking good at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is he is always like,
[SPEAKER_00]: And as, um, I think my, it's Mira and I, oh, what is this, the partner that he worked on when he first came to Marvel, my brain is completely blanking right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you could just tell they're both wired.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they just, they love the art of comics, they love the art of making
[SPEAKER_02]: So, what are you working on now in comics?
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you, what's your next move after doing a big, big project like?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, congratulations.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_06]: So great.
[SPEAKER_00]: one is getting this book out as far and wide as we possibly can.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am talking on something I cannot talk about yet, but hopefully we'll be able to talk about soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's independent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Doing the pitch thing, but we're looking forward to a couple more Marvel's voices coming out this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had it about.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, honestly,
[SPEAKER_00]: trying to find more ways to tell really cool stories with people that already exist in history.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you want to stick with like really getting history bringing history to life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I also feel like there's room into making some of our real history people and just superheroes by utilizing their actual characteristics in history.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and let me say while I was reading this, I was like, this is like a superhero origin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's structured and I'm like, he snuck it in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And shout to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, the scene, especially like, one of the scenes that really popped for me is when you jump back and it's the sergeant talking to his commander.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, to have a scene that that like, I don't know where just.
[SPEAKER_02]: just like literally popped off and I was like oh I did not expect this and then to jump right back and like it was like that kind of I already said it but weaving in and out is really good but like thank you I think that's that Nat Tausen has a question how do you write history and make it feel a compelling like a compelling story in that homework?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah so I honestly and I will say this I probably wouldn't have made the statement two years ago it's like one you have to be a person who gets really excited
[SPEAKER_00]: about the history, like you can't just like you have to be energetic and energized because I think when you're like that, you find a place that are relatable and you are innately looking into what is interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when we went down that first time, like I put
[SPEAKER_00]: I really wanted to go to the site of the house from 1939.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when we went to the site, there's no house there, and I'm like, oh, I have to know what happened this house, because the house didn't fully burn down.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a story.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I finally find like this track record of the house.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone here, like this and this and this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, the properties are in the trust.
[SPEAKER_00]: What trust is this?
[SPEAKER_00]: What's happening?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the next day, I'm talking to Miss Dion and Miss Opel Negro.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a tap for humanity owns it and they're going to give us the property.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this was like a little like this was a significant amount of time before they broke ground on the house she now lives in, which is on the property, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I immediately went
[SPEAKER_00]: like we don't we don't really have a choice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I got very lucky in that we didn't have to make the house up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not have foretolds that the house would exist before we were done with the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: So your answer to the question is history is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: History is basically cool, fascinating.
[SPEAKER_00]: When it's people who are okay with things being wrong and things not going exactly as planned and people being in perfect, like history is fascinating.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm the type of person when I found out that by the end of the Roman Empire, that the piping,
[SPEAKER_00]: and the Roman Empire had basically caused the IQ of the Roman Empire to lower significantly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, maybe helping to cause the downfall the Holy Roman Empire, fascinating to me that they led poisons themselves in technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: terrible but yeah well yeah it's not all we talk about is the pipes part they don't talk about how made them made them dumb till they lost I'm just nobody wants to talk about the part where the pipes were led yeah well true I didn't know that myself so that's I'm yeah thank you for sharing your mind there that's a pretty cool
[SPEAKER_02]: Strable at controversial question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't say specifics, but what neighborhood is this?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in Fort Worth in the polytechnic neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_02]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can literally just google it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Google, Miss Opel, gets brand new house.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was covered widely because it is on the exact property that in 1939, I'm a mom, rent her family out of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he comes back with real question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll actually be attending Chewbaccus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I am contemplating attending Chewbaccus.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I am in town.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I am a big fan of the Chewbaccus parade.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, if the nerds here have never gone to Chewbaccus, it's worth just coming down for that parade.
[SPEAKER_00]: You see, just how nerdy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta go.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not my list of things I gotta do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete's this close to movement in New Orleans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just put it out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're saying it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: We welcome all.
[SPEAKER_02]: What more do you need?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else you'd like to plug or promote or say out the world on
[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed this conversation, but I really enjoyed that you focused on, like, look, history can be mad boring, like it can, it could be dry when we dissected from these are real people's lives, and it's real stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: And one day, we too shall be history, and I really
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be used just to read, it could be used to have a good story, it could be used as like an educational resource because I really wanted to be like, I can't fit everything in here, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's just while though kids now, like, I didn't have this and I was a kid where like, it's like, here's your assignment and it's like a sick graphic novel.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, one of these, it's so lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is my hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: yeah now i mean you're nailing it uh... the book is uh... first freedom the story of opalian juneteenth it's fantastic i love reading it definitely go pick it up on jolique it's been such a pleasure talking to you we'll see you at chubak is uh... sometime in the future yeah definitely uh... great great to be happy here yeah take care so thank you play that
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[SPEAKER_02]: Angelic Roche.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: the stories are right there it's you don't need to they're just great and when you have a great story Taylor like her and her artists like it to have it in a graphic novel form it's truly I can't recommend it enough yeah it's great on so many levels like she was talking about I mean you can just it's beautiful art art wise it's a it's a beautiful book artistically well done
[SPEAKER_06]: And then there's just so many great layers of not only history, but then just of somebody's life and struggles and, you know, it's all the things wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but one thing before I guess we shouldn't go while we're sticking in our sort of New Orleans portion.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should talk about our cocktail featured cocktail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He works at shift down in New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just amazing food all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every week he makes a cocktail.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a special shout out to Mr. Nat Townsend.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is Nat Townsend's hot tater toddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and there are a lot of ingredients in this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's um, hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Water, honey, brown sugar, orange, lemon, clove, ginger, nutmeg, cinnamon, peppercorns, allspice, whole lemon, cloves, cognac, a maro, pachas, bitters.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know how to say pachas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alex doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And two dashes of your favorite orange bitters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angostura, works.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, that's for all the sikis out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is to, um, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and if you want this recipe, this one that is hard to just read the ingredients because there are so many we will send it to you I'm drop us a no ad comic book live Yeah, Gmail and we'll send you the recipe But it's a it's a great hot-toddy He doesn't know how to spell that's name, which is very funny Please check it out That's me the star of cocktail 100%
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that'll start to turn over to our favorite section because you guys make it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is your audience questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a question, just please drop it in the comments.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will answer it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will talk about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will mull it over like a great mulled wine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another hot beverage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you might have.
[SPEAKER_02]: But before we get to the audience questions, Pete, what you got on your drink table.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm just doing a little Godzilla beer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, so you bought a some sort of case of this stuff, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes in life Things are catered towards your nerdy likes and if you put Godzilla on a product
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, what that product is, I will then buy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you hear that brands?
[SPEAKER_02]: The marketing works.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really real out there, fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Glad to hear that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am drinking some sort of hobo in a groany.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, good for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sheen, I only had sweet or sour driver moods, so I did driver moods and some... Spumado on top.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an insane cocktail, but it's working.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really working.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he's speaking of ingredients, you know, something I want to talk to you about today is I don't know if you've ever tried to make your own hot sauce that you put on garbage plates, but an honor of the bill's game this weekend, I was in charge of making the hot sauce.
[SPEAKER_06]: You made hot sauce, that's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: The meat hot sauce that you put, you ground beef into, you cook it for hours.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I had all spice in there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just like it was in the list of ingredients for the look at you.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's how things were recipes stuff, all right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, man it was it was delicious and I was super proud of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Unfortunately didn't help the bills win, but man, we made garbage plates on Saturday.
[SPEAKER_06]: The whole family like my mom made the max salad, my brother made the burgers,
[SPEAKER_06]: And the fries and stuff, and I brought the meat hot sauce, so it was a magical time until the game started, but man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine when it started.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really was.
[SPEAKER_06]: The end was absolutely heartbreaking, and you know, I'm still, uh...
[SPEAKER_06]: Still not over it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean both of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not Buffalo's devastated as usual.
[SPEAKER_02]: We cry when Josh cries.
[SPEAKER_02]: Question number one, what flavor is Godzilla beer from the greater good?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a it's PBR.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a it's a PBR.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a perfect combination of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that the other side of the camp?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is the other side.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look.
[SPEAKER_06]: See this one geared towards me.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, it says a takpeter right there.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it did.
[SPEAKER_06]: It did attack me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why does it say a takpeter?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, they're attacking the things that I love in a way that makes me spend my money.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, they're wouldn't attacking your wallet.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or yeah, or I'm winning, I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're definitely winning.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were able to take Godzilla a character we've been in and did with the comics and now it's on your beer.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're you're definitely winning.
[SPEAKER_02]: From Shreyflat, what's something besides comics you would go on a massive deep dive to research?
[SPEAKER_02]: deep dive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much you love research.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about Angelique loving it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I do.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do love research especially when you're working on something.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, in college, we had to do like pitches for documentary and we did like a
[SPEAKER_06]: the seven hundred fifty seven page uh... documentary proposal on the adward or what is it seven hundred pages yeah and they no longer do the class in college because it like broke people uh... it's too many pages yeah it's it and we did too we did do two who is the one up these it it was on Edward rule off the learning murder there's a bar in cornell
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... called rule-offs and it's on uh... named after a fucking mass murder well that's very unlike peat thing to like well uh... you know was in class so it wasn't like you know we had to pick our team picked it out of uh... we also did the second one on halatosis uh... it's a crazy class man but i mean we would work non-stop like the dude who is presenting on halatosis
[SPEAKER_02]: outlover from stress like i i had to like drink dive to try to catch his head from hitting the stage it was insane i have to see this section of your life are you doing 700 phage document well you're you're like it sounds like you were you the alics of this group
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm never the Alex of the group but you're always the peat of the group.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that tracks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess that really tracks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Massive deep dive that I would go into.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'd actually do like research as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's rare to get the time to really sit and go into something any more of these days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but definitely food.
[SPEAKER_02]: I cook a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm always like trying to figure out more things with food.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as a parent, you're always researching something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, but for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Easy reader says, are you guys suffering from mutant event fatigue?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is wearing me out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now this coming off the age of revelation, we're sort of in a not event right now, but all the books are branded as we're moving on to the next thing that's happening.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know if the short answer is yes, because I haven't been enjoying the
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you're you're have fatigue without the events, too, so I think that's a good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have just a mutant comic fatigue.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Shadows of tomorrow are all the books are branded now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it still does feel like an event.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I don't have the event fatigue, um, I actually like the way it's coming out of the event.
[SPEAKER_02]: Megasolagus Battle, maybe I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: The springboard out of the event has been my favorite part of the last couple of X-Men events specifically because it does feel like there is some creative direction there as opposed to an age revelation we're a little bit stuck in gear.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's where we are from Straybullet, Brooklyn, his son wants to know what your favorite comic was that you read today, broken my son, not the burrow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, shout out to Brooklyn, the son, and not the burrow, but also shout out to the burrow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Shout out to the burrow, that's where I am.
[SPEAKER_06]: Brooklyn, you know.
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, what is the, I can pull that right up, actually.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't have to think about it at all.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, plan it, she-hawk is the favorite comic that I have read today.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great comic.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Favorite comic I read today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'll be, be real about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, uh, Angelique's, uh, the first freedom was the favorite comic I read today.
[SPEAKER_02]: question that no one were likely greater good with McDermott Farad was the first move each of you to make as the new head coach of the bills Shouts if you did if you don't want to hear this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll keep it quick, but I will say it would to be to get a receiver for Josh Allen to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, maybe a receiver that you can keep healthy all season would be huge
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was so emotionally broken like I couldn't believe that nobody was challenging the play that was not an interception it was a catch it's just I felt for McDermott because buffalo has been over the years like brushed aside like the buffalo sabers and the Dallas stars were famously in you know this
[SPEAKER_06]: in the playoffs, there's still a couple of finals.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure which after all this time.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of emotionally scarred me, but like the guy who was in the crease scored and then later they changed the rule and I feel like this non-catch-catch thing, they're going to have to clarify that in a rule and it's just like every time Buffalo suffers and so when he was like, I'm sticking up for Buffalo, I was like, dude, I hear you man because that was such a like
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow, I think of that not be challenged like all of a sudden it was like this crazy play and we're like, yeah, he intercepted it and it was like yeah He had it last, but I don't know like it's a bummer.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's leave it to a U.P.
[SPEAKER_02]: to take a football question A comic book podcast and somehow shift into hockey a conversation.
[SPEAKER_05]: No goal bro You know Buffalo seen a lot of shit dude that poor city
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and I hear it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, honestly crochet had to hear the rest of this cocktail and hot sauce conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And welcome back.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're still, uh, we'll some making moves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: So nice to be able to keep joining us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, question from Capricorn Media products.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen primate?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did wildest hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're into animals killing humans, this is for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen primate of no movie, uh, where, um, a, uh, and a monkey kills a lot.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah, I mean, this is tough because as you know, I'm not a big fan of the The plan of the ape stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is not I first I thought he was talking about primal and I'm excited for the news Well, this has we say have you seen primal the show on HBO Max which is Getty Tartovsky's show.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I've seen all the seasons and there's a new one coming out them very much.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's hour.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's out now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god How did I not know that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know you don't know that it's okay uh... you don't know that often while i'm excited to check that off because uh... it's a great show
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is a great show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been enjoying it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on to another question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Straight bullet, do you agree with McDermott being fired now?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's through strange choices.
[SPEAKER_02]: From Ken and Blizzard LG, any of the entire comic, not yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, well, it's all hopefully very soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will hopefully be able to start talking about that more and share with you the premise and what happens in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, a lot of football questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think from Stanley do you think cold load team should have to have a dome?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, let's Hey, here's the tough thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody loves to watch a game in the snow, but it is brutal to play.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean like?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the opposite.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine to play.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's brutal to watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you watched it?
[SPEAKER_02]: No game?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's nobody.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's horrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're sitting the bench is cold.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm just saying that like, there's something magical and so cool about it to watch so like, yes, I don't want to don't because it's like so many great memories are tied to like snow games and like, oh my god, but to take that away just seems kind of crazy, but you can understand like rain like I remember I went to like a bear's giants game one time and it just rained so bad like you couldn't it was just too much to sit there, you know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... unbearable uh... i i feel bad that i cannon malice lg heard new fans of already heard his feelings with my take on pletit the apes that's a problem with today's kind of openness is that you know so much about people you're going to find things that really bother you you know where is before
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you didn't have access to all the likes and things about people, so like, are you saying you're too out there with likes?
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm too out there, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, people don't too many things.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not the problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: We used to have different opinions, it was okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's now that that's less accepted.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you have to say what you like, and it's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our show is built on having different opinions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of that, Peter, if you've seen he did rivalry, says not thousand.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I don't even know what that is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you should watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're a hockey fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the hockey show.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, that's that new, yeah, everybody was talking about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in short.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the original.
[SPEAKER_06]: He did rivalry.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, come on.
[SPEAKER_06]: Give it, give it.
[SPEAKER_06]: leather cannons the first like let's bow down to the OG a little bit it's like I think those are you can all watch all those shows they're very they're quite different I would argue yeah sure there's scope is plan of the age to scary since her chance no it's just it like I I was having this discussion at the buffalo fun kind of party we were having
[SPEAKER_06]: on Saturday there's this guy doesn't like star wars and I was like what the you know and he was like it the Pew pew like something about it and there's something about like
[SPEAKER_06]: seeing it or I'm not I just like this is dudes in mass like I don't know what it is like sometimes I can get lost in the story and the brim is and sometimes I'm just I can't and there's something about plenty of the apes for me that just keeps me at arm's distance where I'm like well it keeps the thing you got a lot of different options because you're you're talking about the originals because then you know the new ones that are like pretty good
[SPEAKER_02]: As far as that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure the original the original movie is is amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember watching as a kid and being like this is so Good and weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so weird You don't know I just don't know what it is about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the I can't get into it for some reason
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... that house and you think david's turn to try to justify signing so many infielders at this is really crossing a line and i cover this mess shit this fad uh... because the arcane heart says it is inevitable out here in turns into a sports podcast out is going to be like mind blown that this is what we talked about uh... but in his face that's what you get for not being here
[SPEAKER_02]: From it came from the radio.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you thoughts about the Duffer Brothers not having the Ann written before filming began?
[SPEAKER_02]: Given that they had all this time to make it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course we're talking about stranger things.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't quite have any Wasn't saying yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean it seemed like some people got endings and other people didn't It seemed like they were setting up for another show or another season of something for me, but really
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it's just otherwise like why do some people get like an amazing ending and then other people are like We're ending here.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like we don't know what happens to them.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's just like all right, but it's not disappointing.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's hard because like as a comedian As someone who likes to do improv, like, you know, sometimes you put an idea out there and see what happens and like, you know, I'm not an amazing writer like the Duffer Brothers, you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: So sometimes you start writing an idea in a changes, so I can understand like wanting to leave room for something to see How it's gonna kind of do it organically, but
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, that's it's kind of just just to hear it.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like, well, that doesn't look like a good idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a I have a couple.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have two answers for this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think from a production point of view, they went from making a season of television to eight movies essentially is what they made in this final season.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that is a lot more work.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were doing a lot of directing and they were doing a lot of producing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when it says they didn't have it written, I believe there weren't scripts for it, but I bet they've had that ending conceived and in their heads for quite some time because honestly I thought the ending works.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it actually worked really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: It did leave the story open in a way that wasn't trying to gimmick you trying to get another project.
[SPEAKER_02]: It felt very much like great stories I like where the heroes go off and there's more that we can imagine in the story and I really appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially from a show that is about nostalgic storytelling and sort of a retro idea of modern TV and movies can be so
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it all came together really well, and if they didn't have the script finalized, I'm not mad about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only when it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: RE recent Marvel movies that it really bothers me the viewer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Audience question, favorite to win the Super Bowl?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just not the Patriots.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just not the Patriots, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you excited for Stanley?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you excited for the Wonder Man show?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I am also excited that actors in it can't wait to see what they're going to do I hope it's you know all of the hype This we've had this for so many Marvel shows lately where it gets close to what they're coming out and all the hype is just in news Not just hype all the news is insanely name It's just like hey, they won't let anyone watch it until it's on the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like that's not a good sign, but
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, we got to keep, keep up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Wonder Man of Character, I've always liked back in the comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about Retro and Estalgia storytelling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Classic 90s Marvel character.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Strictler, what sports do you fall upside beyond the obvious few?
[SPEAKER_06]: I watch.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know, I do, I like the, the Olympics when they're on, but yeah, I normally, I, I got basketball, hockey, and baseball, and do a ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who do you, who do you follow hockey?
[SPEAKER_06]: Sabers.
[SPEAKER_06]: Really.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sabers next Giants.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's used to fought.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's used to be a great lineup, suffering, quite some time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He used to be like, okay, you just like to win.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now, no, no, no, I got a story on each, why, I like you, Steve.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love watching.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't follow hockey, but I love watching hockey live.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no more like exciting sport to watch live in hockey.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's so intense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah so much fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to watch college basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to watch darts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody watching darts out there?
[SPEAKER_02]: There they'll show Darts on one of the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the Ocho bro Matt will even on one of the weird stations I have on like this Samson TV we have we'll get Darts sometimes I'm like what the fuck is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great fantastic and last question Can Melissa LG growing up with your other have been on Cobra the foot or a stormtrooper man great question.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I mean, I almost want to say obviously none of them because they're all bad guys, but
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... uh... uh... cobra famously didn't get shot a lot you know what i mean for bad guys like they're always missing with their bullets and stuff like that so i feel like i would have lived the longest on cobra you're so just self-preservation you're just because Darth would have definitely choked me out if i was a storm trooper there's no he has choked out those storm troopers uh... they just got lit up like who's that guy in the corner and i'd be like oh shit
[SPEAKER_02]: Even as a kid, I was like, when a stormtrooper would get hit by like a Ewok rock and they'd be like, oh I was always like, man those guys are soft
[SPEAKER_02]: But I always thought, I would be a, I feel like I'd be the stormtrooper that really changed everything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but you got to say the foot, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because they got to skateboard and stuff and live underground and that's what you kind of set up, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was one of my only real exposure to what New York City was.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I was a kid, that just that movie, essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, yes, you're popped up and grown up movies, but I was like, this isn't for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but you told you with the real New York City was like, yeah, I was like, okay, I could get with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can just hang out with your friends if you do a little bit of crime.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is it for your audience for your great questions all around.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for sending them in.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now it's time for a little section that is no one's favorite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Pete's favorite because he is the star of this section.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is trivia.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is a part with you back to you with a lovely audience.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's an opportunity when 25 $3 to midtown comics online because you've got 25 bucks.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why not go to a combo shop, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why not, just say me to say trivia, to play trivia that is, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kay for the radio says, no Alex equals fun fact times that is correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: A little new tradition that seems to be happening is that every time Alex isn't here, Pete adds a new letter of answers and has something related to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's very nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: So just say me if you would like to play first stand-up or first hang up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we got showy clerk coming here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey This showy needs twenty five dollars to spend on comics and not puppets Not puppets.
[SPEAKER_06]: I miss the choice in real life.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right, so see you in every I see you once a month
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: I should.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see another comic book shop?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I see him had a little show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do called character's welcome Yeah, he looks right there's a little place you can park your sled dogs out front if you want to make your way up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh Nice good to know get on your mucklux
[SPEAKER_06]: Alright, today's trivia is no country, my guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Today's trivia is about the cowboy character Rogue, and a small nod to the legend, Jimmy Cliff, RIP, and thanks for all the great music.
[SPEAKER_06]: Please listen to all four options before making your selection.
[SPEAKER_06]: Here we go, show a cool question, number one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Rogue's first appeared in Whatcomic in 1981.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it A, Avengers annual number 10?
[SPEAKER_06]: B, just because he's a man, doesn't mean he's a good camper.
[SPEAKER_06]: C, Stephen Campman.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or D, Justin shares.
[SPEAKER_06]: In case you're wondering, hey, what's Justin shares?
[SPEAKER_06]: Justin could share something or anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, or he could be a character from one of his shows.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, characters are welcome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do I know what to share?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well that's that's the fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, you know, like it's a dealer's choice.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can show everything you like Feel free great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what this choice comes back with debating probably between two letters to say He's probably wondering if he should save Justin shares or if he should pick it first one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's true That's a great point, but he is thinking a lot of a Kerchenson says e-mortrafia.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh Yeah, she's on more trivia
[SPEAKER_02]: Strable it with a heavy D Shoei-Cler says D But also hey, look he can't not get it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh great sharing a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will share that I Over the course of my time doing characters on the show characters welcome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had written a written a lot of things in Sharpie on my body
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, one of those things cuck, one of those things, uh, dickless, uh, one of those things, fuck puppy, one of those things across my back straight from the titty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Your wife is, uh, incredible woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, she's like, hey, what's all this black marker on the sheet?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, oh, yeah, you got it.
[SPEAKER_02]: My comedy is messy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Permanent marker on the sheets bro, oh that's not a good luck not a good luck not a great man What a great chair?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah a great chair.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna go deep.
[SPEAKER_06]: They say all right here.
[SPEAKER_06]: We go question number two Who is writing this new badass road comic is it a Eric of shalt be?
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if I should put you on a McDonald's menu or an action movie see belltram McLean
[SPEAKER_06]: or see our D Justin shares.
[SPEAKER_06]: Strictly just so you didn't share anything I didn't already know that's okay show if you know Tight friends you, you know, you might know stuff that others don't yeah That's 100% you get to see him once a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am try.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I never see Pete I'm trying to think of things that I haven't said on this show But have said in my that well you could share about like maybe a Film center to be show you a reason like a Job or something you were working you know, I mean
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good call.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm always interested in, you know, stuff you work on a Shrekler a but more d-heave a more d That's a shaker.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can't help but I get it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, he's always right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the correct.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah He or let's get the shaker.
[SPEAKER_02]: I share.
[SPEAKER_02]: I worked in a show called Deezus and Merrill
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we had one of the first pieces I directed for that show was with John Legend.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was the guest and the idea was John Legend has said he would write a song with these is a maro and it we only had an hour to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we sit down and we had not pre-planning this so it was like true improv and we're like okay, Maro, what do you want this song to be about?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says to John
[SPEAKER_02]: Eating it so so in John laughed and then he wrote he Jesus was like let's stop for a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to go to the bathroom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus left to go to the bathroom John led you just literally tinkled on the keyboards I'm on an actual piano and then he wrote he wrote a song with the guys called chocolate galaxy It is so fucking good
[SPEAKER_02]: uh you could that sketch is still online it's I believe it's still on the people listen to chocolate galaxy yes oh that's nice so just google chocolate galaxy if you want to hear a legit vanger track about
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I'm just he's got to be so lucky his parents didn't name them like John mediocre, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, I don't joke, I like it, you thought of that didn't really want to say it, but I've really been to had to, you know, had to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes you got to get one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes when it's in the head, you got to, you know, you got to share it.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, we've got last one.
[SPEAKER_06]: who's the great artist on this new bro comic is it a Luigi's uh... got the guri uh... uh... be just because you're old and a dick doesn't make you wise see Richard wise or steed just in chairs uh... just in shares i'd google chocolate galaxy and it came back with a fudge cake recipe that's no one i wanted
[SPEAKER_02]: drop in the link in the chat and I just show it clear this is the longest we've ever listened to the trivia music I will say that yeah yeah well let's show it color likes the milk it you know what he does he does like to milk it to what stings is if uh if this was the live show you know he'd be he'd have some puppets or something in between the downtime you know okay he writes a slap d slap a slap d
[SPEAKER_02]: Stanley is a good point.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also need Pete shares.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, uh, Pete.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a share shit?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I pass my share to you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeez, uh, also someone who worked a lot on the film television sets as also lived a wildlife I've known people 20 fucking years now.
[SPEAKER_02]: It still still tell a story where I'm like What what section of your life what are you doing this in?
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you somehow reveal that you were like 60, I'd be like, I of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've lived definitely an extra 20, 25 years than me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's nice of you to say, but the gray beard, you know, definitely.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, let's see, what do I want to share?
[SPEAKER_06]: It was funny because I was a old friend of mine called me, and we were talking about the good old days, and we were talking about the time where I was living out in a lay and working for a film company, an independent film company.
[SPEAKER_06]: she was the voice of the bride of Chucky and the Chucky movies it's like Lily's something or if I said that at the time I had I should win in a Nobel Peace Prize anyways she was a she was unbelievable and this was before like
[SPEAKER_06]: phones or google maps or anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm driving around LA trying to find the place to drop off this film because they finally got it done and they needed to get developed and I couldn't find it for the shot on film.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah and I was like driving around LA with like just a shotgun seat full of canisters film canisters trying to find the place to get the film to both.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's
[SPEAKER_06]: I had to drive all the way back to the there of film office and they were so pissed like this guy has his whole family there and they're waiting to go on vacation and like I had to drive back and say I couldn't find it he was so pissed if I wasn't like an intern working for Silk Greta he would have just like murdered me I'm sure but it's like it was I couldn't you know it was just a he-uh
[SPEAKER_02]: That's some keystone cops here right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's having a round.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you answer the, did you finish the trivia question?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, um,
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: club paradise club paradise great and who would the guy that perished Jimmy cliff what was he known for
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm a Louisville reggae music and also lots of different kinds of music, but mainly known for his unbelievable reggae music.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know you were such a fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love music.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you love music.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stable.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did get lost in trivia a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get us talking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get us Sharon.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why old people talk so much because they just have so many stories.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... folks tomorrow is new comic book day as uh... as peat patrone says he uh... enters the chat happy pre and cbd uh... there's a lot of comics uh... come out tomorrow peat what are uh... a couple that you're looking forward to a row number one as well as planet as she hawk number three uh... just uh...
[SPEAKER_06]: I think this is a really cool first issue for a rogue, and yeah, I'm excited to see what they're going to do with her.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's such a great character.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just plan that she call it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's been such a smart, cool take on putting she Hulk on a planet's a car and what that would mean.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: All the changes and all the great stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think it's just such a fun fish out of water story and, oh man, I'm just having a blast with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has been very fun looking forward to that coming out tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to give it up for assorted crisis events coming out tomorrow to issue number A for Moons comics or my guide Dennis camp.
[SPEAKER_06]: Does you can camp in for a while?
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't camped.
[SPEAKER_02]: I make some sort of Dave Campman or what he said.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the trivia, I love this comic.
[SPEAKER_02]: it's upsetting almost all the time so looking forward to another real deep dive into tragic the tragic consequences of human life as told through a world where time itself and the world is broken in a sci-fi way really enjoy that and I'll also shout out red coat number 60 from Ghost Machine that comic
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really become one of my faves in the in the stack whenever it's coming out It really really self-contained it reminds me the storytelling cadence is similar to starman a book that I love where we follow our main character as He has sort of a main thing of being in a mortal Soldier, but he's also a near-do well, so he gets into a bunch of sort of one-off scraps Looking forward to what happens tomorrow just an obsessive camping.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love tent life
[SPEAKER_02]: Stray Bullet, what is Justin's shirt?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is rock and roll with lots and lots of words.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a Josh Ritter to our shirt.
[SPEAKER_02]: of course wearing the Felix the catch shirt that we bought the same one of some day we were hoping to match up again but a last it is not today actually not wearing an underneath great folks that's the show we have lived and done a fantastic show here as a pleasure to have you here thanks for listening real quick say that we are sucking on a cheese steak
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're doing, but what we're doing is we're saying goodbye, and we're saying goodbye is what we're doing Second out of chiefs take Pete former resident of Philadelphia.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right guys Ben a great show check us out on comic book club news patreon.com slash comic book clubs and subscribe sees on blue sky Instagram or check us out of comic book live dot com we'll see you next week good night everybody Thanks for hearing yourself with me, Jim
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bye!