WEBVTT 00:00.031 --> 00:01.113 [SPEAKER_00]: Can we talk 7-ounce? 00:01.133 --> 00:03.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Can we talk about 7-ounce? 00:03.477 --> 00:19.845 [SPEAKER_00]: Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 00:27.672 --> 00:31.278 [SPEAKER_00]: I've always admired the occupation of Butler. 00:32.099 --> 00:38.949 [SPEAKER_00]: The remains of the day, a 1993 film starring Anthony Hopkins, made a big impression on me as a teenager. 00:39.731 --> 00:47.082 [SPEAKER_00]: There was something about the order, the etiquette, the way everything needed to be just so that appealed to me. 00:47.230 --> 00:55.882 [SPEAKER_00]: But alas, I was turned off from the trade when I heard a black man say that Butler was another way to spell B-Och. 00:55.902 --> 01:00.889 [SPEAKER_00]: Deep down, I've always known that that's not true, that the Butler's not a B-Och. 01:00.909 --> 01:02.731 [SPEAKER_00]: The Butler is a shrewd character. 01:03.512 --> 01:05.815 [SPEAKER_00]: Abelahandel any situation with boys when. 01:06.456 --> 01:07.838 [SPEAKER_00]: Others might panic. 01:08.088 --> 01:25.653 [SPEAKER_00]: completely competent, understanding everything while, asking nothing, on the observing, that making subtle adjustments like a, capped into the wheel of his ship, steering everything smooth, whilst those observing believe they're witnessing a natural, occurrence. 01:26.554 --> 01:37.690 [SPEAKER_00]: Supernatural is the influence of a good Butler, home without the whole production would crash, every dish to the floor should a steady hand sweat, 01:38.480 --> 01:38.981 [SPEAKER_00]: I get it. 01:39.862 --> 01:52.786 [SPEAKER_00]: I admire the Butler, as did today's subject Archibald Thomas Hall II, who despite being born with a Butler's name decided to go by Roy, which I thought was strange. 01:53.407 --> 02:00.319 [SPEAKER_00]: Until I got to know him better and realize that strange is what you need to be in the first place to even consider the gig. 02:00.687 --> 02:09.685 [SPEAKER_00]: Queer is maybe the better word, but I'm honored gentlemen such as I might reconsider and go a little further to use the word questionable. 02:09.833 --> 02:14.440 [SPEAKER_00]: Then once those questions were answered, go all the way and land on monstrous. 02:15.161 --> 02:27.420 [SPEAKER_00]: As the press did, causing the upper crust of society to nearly choke on their biscuits, her sons and buttered skulls, sputtering red faced over neatly pressed morning newspapers of the time. 02:28.382 --> 02:38.237 [SPEAKER_00]: I gasped upon learning how a common man turned con man and filtered their most trusted trade, perverting every tenant of it. 02:38.656 --> 02:41.405 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Dark Topic, I'm your host, Jack Luna. 02:42.248 --> 02:43.693 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a true crime happening. 02:44.777 --> 02:46.101 [SPEAKER_00]: The Monster Butler. 02:58.720 --> 03:12.460 [SPEAKER_00]: Archibald Thompson Hall II was born July 17, 1924, in a humble flat on a nameless street, known today as Ibrox Road, in the part-tick area of Glasgow, Scotland. 03:12.760 --> 03:15.063 [SPEAKER_00]: His parents were Marion and Archibald. 03:15.624 --> 03:26.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Archie would become Archibald Hall Sr. when our future brother arrived on the dumbwader, which I guess would be his mom at that time seeing how she was the one serving meals and wasn't that bright? 03:27.779 --> 03:28.499 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I made that up. 03:28.880 --> 03:30.202 [SPEAKER_00]: The dumbwader choked there. 03:30.222 --> 03:30.983 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a dumb joke. 03:31.303 --> 03:34.106 [SPEAKER_00]: In the spirit of this episode, I made that up. 03:34.146 --> 03:39.493 [SPEAKER_00]: You see Archibald 03:39.473 --> 03:41.238 [SPEAKER_00]: He always wanted things to be more. 03:41.859 --> 03:50.522 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe he was a born performer of the flame-boyant, gave variety, not allowed to flourish in his time in circumstance and forgive me. 03:51.124 --> 03:55.896 [SPEAKER_00]: I vowed to button myself up and stay appropriately on task. 03:56.146 --> 03:56.928 [SPEAKER_00]: for this episode. 03:57.710 --> 04:11.607 [SPEAKER_00]: Archibald Senior worked as a shipyard laborer, the family lived in modest working-class conditions, typical of pre-war Glasgow, a city marked by industrial grit, poverty, and social divides. 04:11.738 --> 04:14.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Archibald's father was a stern but distant figure. 04:14.824 --> 04:22.357 [SPEAKER_00]: Often absent due to work, leaving the household primarily under the rule of the strong world mother of the situation, Marion. 04:23.098 --> 04:32.295 [SPEAKER_00]: She instilled in archibald junior a sense of discipline, but also contributed to an unstable home environment, fraught with emotional turbulence. 04:32.630 --> 04:41.864 [SPEAKER_00]: From a young age, Hall exhibited signs of detachment and rebellion, he was a social outcast amongst his peers, struggling to form a maintained friendships. 04:42.524 --> 04:51.077 [SPEAKER_00]: School held little interest for him, he frequently skipped classes, referring to wander the streets or are mercimself and solitary pursuits. 04:51.277 --> 04:59.053 [SPEAKER_00]: During his free time, Archibald Junior would sneak into local variety shows and cinemas, captivated by the glitz and glamour they portrayed. 04:59.835 --> 05:04.685 [SPEAKER_00]: These experiences ignited a deep-seated longing for a life of luxury and admiration. 05:05.467 --> 05:09.876 [SPEAKER_00]: He added a live silver screen stars like Carrie Grant, and to catch a thief. 05:09.856 --> 05:21.280 [SPEAKER_00]: and David Niven and Raffles, whom embodied swath webinar thieves, charming rogues navigating high society with ease and escaping consequences through wit and elegance. 05:22.182 --> 05:30.700 [SPEAKER_00]: Raised in a cramped, working-class home with limited prospects, Archibald Hall Junior became obsessed with escaping his origins. 05:30.764 --> 05:36.677 [SPEAKER_00]: He dreamt of wealth, fame, and the social acclaim afforded to performers and aristocrats. 05:37.419 --> 05:44.014 [SPEAKER_00]: Viewing crime not as a moral failing but as a pathway to the refined life he craved. 05:49.850 --> 06:03.770 [SPEAKER_00]: Hallsby's sexuality emerged early, a dangerous trait in an era where homosexuality was illegal in the UK, under the offenses against the person active 1861, and the criminal law amendment active 1885. 06:04.871 --> 06:13.984 [SPEAKER_00]: Hallsby's face severe societal stigma, harassment, and legal persecution, often lead into imprisonment or chemical castration. 06:13.964 --> 06:20.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Despite this, Hall boasted of an innate, magnetic, sexual attraction that drew both men and women to him. 06:21.658 --> 06:29.392 [SPEAKER_00]: He claimed numerous affairs with rich and successful individuals using these relationships to glimpse the opulent lifestyles he desired. 06:30.053 --> 06:38.588 [SPEAKER_00]: However, verifying these claims is challenging, archabled Hall Jr. was a consummate storyteller, prone to embellishment. 06:38.770 --> 06:49.387 [SPEAKER_00]: What is certain is that he learned young, to wield his sexuality as a tool from manipulation, charming his way to circles that offered opportunities for advancement or exploitation. 06:50.209 --> 06:57.100 [SPEAKER_00]: An older divorced neighbor named Mrs. Phillips played a pivotal role in his sexual awakening, a milk of the time. 06:57.080 --> 07:08.395 [SPEAKER_00]: According to Halls on account in his memoirs, she initiated him into intimacy, introducing Hall to a world of sophistication and indulgence that contrasted sharply with his humble upbringing. 07:09.136 --> 07:17.788 [SPEAKER_00]: This encounter fueled his taste for the high life and reinforced his belief in using personal allure to his sense social matters. 07:17.768 --> 07:31.339 [SPEAKER_00]: Around this time, Archbola Hall Jr. also experiment with cross-dressing and explored London's underground gay scene after relocating there, further blurring the lines between his identity and performance. 07:32.585 --> 07:37.633 [SPEAKER_00]: By age 15 in 1939, Hall's criminal tendencies materialized. 07:38.193 --> 07:45.965 [SPEAKER_00]: He began with petty scams such as stealing, red cross collection tins, then redistributing them, posing as the pickup boy for each. 07:46.786 --> 07:51.353 [SPEAKER_00]: These early cons demonstrated his emerging talent for deception in acting. 07:51.620 --> 08:02.298 [SPEAKER_00]: His first major run-in with a law came in 1941 at barely 17 when he was sentenced to 60 days in jail for two charges of theft from a residence and one for forging a check. 08:02.959 --> 08:08.488 [SPEAKER_00]: The court, concerned by his youth and apathy, referred him to a psychiatrist. 08:08.508 --> 08:17.323 [SPEAKER_00]: The evaluation described him as emotionally detached, apathetic, and unremorseful, traits that would define his psychopathic profile. 08:17.388 --> 08:28.145 [SPEAKER_00]: In May 1943, all received another 30 days for theft and violating wartime rationing orders, a common offense during World War II, when resources were scarce. 08:28.766 --> 08:36.679 [SPEAKER_00]: By 1944, a more thorough psychiatric assessment painted a chilling picture, a cold world, on the psychiatrist. 08:36.659 --> 08:42.750 [SPEAKER_00]: He gives me the impression that he is acting a part in which all the time he is living in a purely imaginary world. 08:43.270 --> 08:47.017 [SPEAKER_00]: He is no moral sense whatsoever, and is a danger to society." 08:47.778 --> 08:48.159 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 08:48.900 --> 08:59.258 [SPEAKER_00]: This diagnosis for shadowed his lifelong detachment from reality, where all viewed life as a stage, and himself as the starring anti-hero. 08:59.390 --> 09:17.922 [SPEAKER_00]: post-war Hall's crimes escalated between 1945 and 1950 he alternated between freedom and incarceration, spending more time inside prisons and mental institutions than out over 70 years and total sentences have been handed down to him before his eventual life terms. 09:17.902 --> 09:23.229 [SPEAKER_00]: He was confined to psychiatric hospitals three times on grounds of insanity and escaped thrice. 09:23.910 --> 09:26.314 [SPEAKER_00]: Showcasey is cunning and resourcefulness. 09:26.915 --> 09:29.538 [SPEAKER_00]: During these periods, Hall transformed himself. 09:30.099 --> 09:43.538 [SPEAKER_00]: He studied etiquette books, learned about aristocracy, antiques, and fine wines, and practice 09:43.518 --> 09:50.997 [SPEAKER_00]: This self-education was deliberate to infiltrate upper class households as a butler, scoping them for thefts. 09:51.466 --> 10:02.599 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall adopted the alias Roy Fontaine, inspired by actress Joan Fontaine's role in Alfred Hitchcock's Rebecca 1940, which he watched obsessively. 10:03.260 --> 10:09.327 [SPEAKER_00]: The film about a naive woman marrying into her aristocracy, a word I can't fucking say, because I'm not this part. 10:09.847 --> 10:10.628 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying here. 10:11.129 --> 10:20.680 [SPEAKER_00]: The woman uncovers dark secrets, and this resonated with Hall's aspirations and receptions, 10:20.660 --> 10:23.524 [SPEAKER_00]: polite, charming, and impeccably mannered. 10:24.165 --> 10:29.192 [SPEAKER_00]: He resisted rehabilitation, viewing prison as a temporary setback rather than a deterrent. 10:29.853 --> 10:38.365 [SPEAKER_00]: Stealing jewels remained his favorite crime, though he was notoriously inept at evading capture, often due to overconfidence. 10:38.665 --> 10:57.361 [SPEAKER_00]: In the late 1940s, Archibald Hall Junior moved to London, drawn by its vibrant nightlife and relative tolerance for homosexuality, despite its illegality, the city was divided by gangs, and Hall immersed himself in the criminal underworld, posing as an aristocrat, or wealthy American, to convict them. 10:58.042 --> 11:07.170 [SPEAKER_00]: He perfected scams like the Sheikstein, where he impersonated a Middle Eastern dignitary 11:07.150 --> 11:09.574 [SPEAKER_00]: involving fake engagements to access jewelry. 11:10.415 --> 11:18.066 [SPEAKER_00]: One notable house was the Mobile House job in the 1950s, where he burgled at high society residents, stealing valuables worth thousands. 11:18.727 --> 11:25.918 [SPEAKER_00]: He also targeted the Montague arms and stage breakings and Henley blending theft with confidence tricks. 11:26.236 --> 11:38.693 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall claimed affairs with prominent figures like Lord Boothby, a bisexual politician linked to scandals, and playwright Terrence Radigan, using these connections for insider information on valuables. 11:38.740 --> 11:43.548 [SPEAKER_00]: Whether true or exaggerate, these stories bolstered his self-image as a magnetic rogue. 11:44.190 --> 11:55.029 [SPEAKER_00]: In 1964, he was sentenced to 10 years for jewel thefts, while at Bluniston Prison in Suffolk, he escaped in 1966, but was recaptured, adding five years to his sentence. 11:55.810 --> 12:02.622 [SPEAKER_00]: Parold in 1972, all briefly attempted legitimacy, but reverted quickly to crime. 12:02.990 --> 12:09.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Reports from 1970 suggested a rest for selling secret papers to the Russians, which Hall denied as a miscarriage of justice. 12:10.378 --> 12:24.332 [SPEAKER_00]: He downplayed his insanity diagnoses as an adult, hiding these to maintain his glamorous facade, and steady boast of sexual conquest and luxurious exploits, crafting a narrative of aspiration over pathology. 12:25.032 --> 12:32.440 [SPEAKER_00]: Throughout the 1950s and 60s, Hall interspersed prison stints with butler positions, gaining 12:32.420 --> 12:36.264 [SPEAKER_00]: He worked for various aristocrats, studying their habits to plan thefts. 12:36.965 --> 12:46.475 [SPEAKER_00]: In 1973, he was in prison again at Long-Larton, prison in Worcestershire, where he met David Wright, a small-time crook, beginning a sexual relationship. 12:47.195 --> 13:01.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Released in 1977, all secured a Butler position with Lady Margaret Peggy Hudson, the widow of Sir Austin Hudson, a former conservative MP at Curlton House, 13:01.310 --> 13:05.937 [SPEAKER_00]: The job came via an agency with a reference from his father-in-law John Wooten. 13:06.598 --> 13:12.186 [SPEAKER_00]: Lady Hudson impressed by his politeness hired all at 20-pound per week. 13:12.206 --> 13:19.217 [SPEAKER_00]: All claimed he enjoyed country life, but his true intent was to case the estate, and nearby homes for robberies. 13:19.366 --> 13:29.067 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, released in October 1977, remember that says prison boyfriend, joined Hall in Scotland, Lady Hudson liked right, and offered him a handyman role. 13:29.768 --> 13:35.400 [SPEAKER_00]: This created tension, right new Hall's Conman passed, and threatened exposure. 13:35.498 --> 13:39.607 [SPEAKER_00]: Wright stole the ring leading to a heated argument with the Butler in all. 13:40.249 --> 13:51.213 [SPEAKER_00]: One night, Wright, the working handyman of the estate entered Hall, the working Butler of the estate's room, and fired a shot through the ad board, while they're having sex probably, which is completely cool. 13:51.634 --> 13:54.520 [SPEAKER_00]: Missing Hall, and then pistol whipped him. 13:54.500 --> 14:00.287 [SPEAKER_00]: They reconciled with drinks and finished up their sex, but haul plotted revenge from here forward. 14:00.988 --> 14:09.998 [SPEAKER_00]: The next morning during a rabbit hunt, but their Roy Fontaine, whom we know as haul, continued referencing him as haul, monitored rights ammunition. 14:10.859 --> 14:14.423 [SPEAKER_00]: When his boyfriend writes gun emptied, haul shot him in the ad. 14:15.264 --> 14:21.992 [SPEAKER_00]: Hearing mutters continue his mutters from his bitching boyfriend, he fired three more times into that ad, to silence him. 14:22.057 --> 14:28.147 [SPEAKER_00]: He dragged the body to a stream, covering it with dirt, branches, and boulders out in this hunting area of the estate. 14:28.828 --> 14:35.159 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he returned over the next few weeks doing dog walks to add concealment each time. 14:35.760 --> 14:40.167 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall told Lady Hudson that Wright had taken a job in Torque. 14:40.147 --> 14:42.670 [SPEAKER_00]: Suspicious, she had local police investigate. 14:43.331 --> 14:46.356 [SPEAKER_00]: They escorted it all eventually off the property. 14:46.996 --> 14:51.523 [SPEAKER_00]: Thinking he might have something to do with this, though they never found the body in that time. 14:51.683 --> 14:54.527 [SPEAKER_00]: They eventually did, but in that time they never found the body. 14:54.867 --> 14:59.413 [SPEAKER_00]: And Hall was taking these walks with the dog to see if the dog could sniff the corpse out. 15:00.014 --> 15:09.327 [SPEAKER_00]: It could at the beginning, but after he covered it up a few times and really covered it up in the evenings without the dogs, eventually the dog was not. 15:10.150 --> 15:12.272 [SPEAKER_00]: Michael Keto, 39. 15:12.632 --> 15:15.695 [SPEAKER_00]: This is now in the year 1977, late 77. 15:16.556 --> 15:26.885 [SPEAKER_00]: He shared halls on stable childhood, hall and out of grace from the Lady Hudson estate, under suspicion of murder, began a relationship with Michael Keto. 15:27.566 --> 15:31.729 [SPEAKER_00]: Archbald Hall, Roy Fontaine, left eagerly. 15:31.769 --> 15:33.571 [SPEAKER_00]: They hadn't found the body yet. 15:33.931 --> 15:40.157 [SPEAKER_00]: The reason why he was bringing the dog by the body all the time was to make sure it couldn't 15:40.137 --> 15:46.907 [SPEAKER_00]: a bunch of dirt to it, a bunch of branches, dig the whole deeper, smoosh it down when he could. 15:47.708 --> 15:56.181 [SPEAKER_00]: And eventually the dog would stop alerting to that body, searches by the police, by bloodhounds, it went the same way. 15:56.882 --> 16:02.030 [SPEAKER_00]: He left eagerly off the property, thinking maybe somehow some way they will find the body. 16:02.450 --> 16:03.512 [SPEAKER_00]: I was boyfriend right. 16:04.842 --> 16:06.764 [SPEAKER_00]: Holy fuck it's cold in here. 16:06.985 --> 16:07.606 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so quiet. 16:07.626 --> 16:14.594 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got to put some of these feet warmers on my feet And I have I have some sneaky cigarettes here. 16:14.614 --> 16:16.637 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna smoke don't tell nobody. 16:16.857 --> 16:32.257 [SPEAKER_00]: I made promises I was smoking couple cigarettes I got a bottle back here to I didn't want to drink on this one But I'm gonna take a slug of that and I'll be would be straight To yeah straight and back to you in a moment. 16:32.778 --> 16:34.680 [SPEAKER_00]: You know I used to work as they 16:36.230 --> 17:00.246 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... ice maker and everybody's side is you know straight normal and yet to run around the ice and fix things and as a pebbler at a curling rickie at a walk backwards and pebble ice and there's no way you can be drinking or doing anything fucked up and that spot or else you'd fall over gotta tell you i learned how to walk straight backwards while a hammer doing that job and uh... 17:00.226 --> 17:01.290 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to do it here. 17:01.651 --> 17:02.314 [SPEAKER_00]: I need a slug. 17:02.374 --> 17:04.542 [SPEAKER_00]: I need a smoke again. 17:04.582 --> 17:05.325 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't tell nobody. 17:05.767 --> 17:06.570 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like I get it right. 17:06.730 --> 17:08.055 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get it right now. 17:09.340 --> 17:09.922 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be right back. 17:10.605 --> 17:11.468 [SPEAKER_00]: Like a Butler. 17:17.303 --> 17:20.347 [SPEAKER_00]: That's had to late 1977, Michael Keto. 17:20.928 --> 17:24.293 [SPEAKER_00]: 39, shared Archbola Hall's unstable childhood. 17:24.313 --> 17:25.554 [SPEAKER_00]: He had been fostered. 17:26.155 --> 17:29.640 [SPEAKER_00]: He joined the Armed Forces, but was dishonorably discharged for robbery. 17:30.341 --> 17:31.723 [SPEAKER_00]: He was twice married with a daughter. 17:32.284 --> 17:34.587 [SPEAKER_00]: Keto survived on odd jobs and petty crimes. 17:35.188 --> 17:42.518 [SPEAKER_00]: On the run after robbing a pub, he met Archbola Hall through mutual acquaintance, Mary Coggle, in a London pub. 17:42.498 --> 17:46.823 [SPEAKER_00]: Keto saw the partnership as a chance for big money deferring to Hall's leadership. 17:47.504 --> 18:06.227 [SPEAKER_00]: All continuing with his butler skills in order to con people got his way into the service for a one Walter Travers Scott Elliott, or in 1895, a former Labour MP for Akrinton, and an antique collector from a wealthy Indian business family, the Bombay Company Madras. 18:06.460 --> 18:21.161 [SPEAKER_00]: And his wife lived in the estate, Dorothy Alice Scott Elliott, 22 years his junior, they married in 48, Dorothy, daughter of a Calcutta merchant, suffered crippling arthritis in early Sonility by November of 1977. 18:22.463 --> 18:25.127 [SPEAKER_00]: The couple lived in a luxurious, London flat. 18:25.107 --> 18:27.150 [SPEAKER_00]: filled with priceless antiques. 18:28.211 --> 18:29.733 [SPEAKER_00]: All had worked for them a month. 18:30.153 --> 18:32.937 [SPEAKER_00]: When, outtracking with keto, they planned the robbery. 18:33.617 --> 18:40.085 [SPEAKER_00]: Touring the flat they reared the wine cellar, Dorothee came across them confronted them demanding to know who keto was. 18:40.746 --> 18:44.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Keto grabbed her, covered her mouth, dragged her to a room where she fell. 18:44.250 --> 18:46.733 [SPEAKER_00]: They suffocated her with a pillow. 18:47.174 --> 18:49.237 [SPEAKER_00]: Did these new lovers and hauling keto? 18:49.917 --> 18:54.523 [SPEAKER_00]: Panicking the loader body into a rented car is planning to dispose of it in 18:54.672 --> 19:05.067 [SPEAKER_00]: They drugged the elder, her husband Walter with pills and whiskey, convincing the days 82 year old that Dorothea left, I had and they were going to find her. 19:05.708 --> 19:18.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Mary Coggle, whom these couple, these men, these gay couple, met in the pub and brought along in this moment, as an accomplice of theirs, Mary Coggle 19:18.466 --> 19:28.503 [SPEAKER_00]: Dressed in Dorothy's fur coat, wore wig, and Dorothy's jewelry, and personating her to avoid suspicion while withdrawing large sums from the couple's bank. 19:29.324 --> 19:34.753 [SPEAKER_00]: The group drove north, staying at a rented cottage in Newton, Arlesh, Cambodia. 19:34.987 --> 19:40.334 [SPEAKER_00]: They buried Dorothy Facedan, a ditch near Braco, or a lock-earned, per Shire. 19:41.055 --> 19:48.705 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall and Keto made trips back to London to steal and fence and teaks, telling the groundskeeper that the Scott Eleitz had gone abroad unexpectedly. 19:49.266 --> 19:59.560 [SPEAKER_00]: Walter, the 82-year-old man of the manner, was kept drugged for six days to continue to sign checks with his fake wife here in Mary Coggle. 19:59.540 --> 20:09.637 [SPEAKER_00]: He began to grow restless after a while though insisting on walks whether or not that they couldn't prevent him from taking or else he would get really riled up. 20:09.898 --> 20:13.684 [SPEAKER_00]: They were keeping him alive to have him there to sign checks. 20:14.346 --> 20:21.398 [SPEAKER_00]: They drove to Blair Athol, Athol, Blair was an asshole that they knew but they could laugh. 20:21.418 --> 20:22.780 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to keep buttoned up here. 20:23.654 --> 20:26.898 [SPEAKER_00]: They drove to a place called Blair Athol, Earth Shire. 20:27.419 --> 20:30.543 [SPEAKER_00]: For the night, then they went to the Intervess Shire. 20:31.364 --> 20:42.379 [SPEAKER_00]: Walter this A.T. rolled man in the manner, asked to relieve himself at one point, this is when Hall strangled him with his scarf, hearing moans, keto, beat the old man to death with a shovel. 20:42.920 --> 20:49.088 [SPEAKER_00]: They buried him in the woods near Tomuk or Glenn Affrick, where foxes later disturb the grave. 20:49.068 --> 20:56.040 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Mary Coggle, who is pretending to be the wife here, she was known as Bellfast Mary 51 years old at this time. 20:56.520 --> 21:03.572 [SPEAKER_00]: She met Hall in 1972, a prostitute, and fence, she sold him stolen checkbooks and licenses. 21:04.113 --> 21:10.063 [SPEAKER_00]: My apologies, I said they met at the bar, yes they met up at the bar, but Hall knew her previous. 21:10.043 --> 21:12.988 [SPEAKER_00]: She was involved peripherally in the Scott Elliott murders. 21:13.428 --> 21:15.932 [SPEAKER_00]: She sat in the car during the old man Walter's killing. 21:16.493 --> 21:21.400 [SPEAKER_00]: Her role had been impersonating his wife Dorothy after she been murdered for bank access. 21:22.101 --> 21:29.933 [SPEAKER_00]: In public, she poorly acted the socialite, insisting on wearing Dorothy's mint coat with embroidered initials, risking exposure. 21:30.254 --> 21:32.237 [SPEAKER_00]: She got two into the character. 21:32.217 --> 21:38.723 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall and Keto decided she knew too much once the old man was dead when Belfast Mary wanted to return to London. 21:39.163 --> 21:41.005 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall insisted she discard the coat. 21:42.006 --> 21:45.729 [SPEAKER_00]: It's got, you know, it's the victim's coat with her initials on it. 21:46.470 --> 21:47.231 [SPEAKER_00]: She wouldn't do it. 21:47.331 --> 21:48.192 [SPEAKER_00]: She wanted to keep the coat. 21:49.012 --> 21:51.735 [SPEAKER_00]: As she packed, Hall struck her with a fire poker. 21:52.335 --> 21:53.556 [SPEAKER_00]: Keto held her arms. 21:54.097 --> 22:00.823 [SPEAKER_00]: They suffocated her with a plastic bag, 22:00.803 --> 22:04.229 [SPEAKER_00]: The next day, they dumped her in a stream under a bridge in Middle-B. 22:04.830 --> 22:05.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't free Shire. 22:06.312 --> 22:09.577 [SPEAKER_00]: She was discovered on Christmas Day 1977 by a shepherd. 22:10.098 --> 22:14.786 [SPEAKER_00]: Her body showed headlassarations bruises on the left of your shoulder and arm from the poker. 22:15.427 --> 22:18.011 [SPEAKER_00]: Her cause of death, massive hemorrhage from a blow. 22:18.793 --> 22:22.138 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall would they declare that she had simply fallen in hit rocks. 22:22.859 --> 22:26.305 [SPEAKER_00]: He expressed regret, quote, 22:26.842 --> 22:28.144 [SPEAKER_00]: Her involvement was minimal. 22:28.765 --> 22:32.450 [SPEAKER_00]: She mainly had introduced Keto to Hall. 22:33.071 --> 22:33.973 [SPEAKER_00]: But off. 22:33.993 --> 22:36.096 [SPEAKER_00]: That being said, I got to stop there for a second. 22:36.116 --> 22:37.959 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she did a bit more than that. 22:38.059 --> 22:49.356 [SPEAKER_00]: She got two into the character, freaked all the Keto out, and got killed, thrown to men's clothes, thrown to a ditch, and her body wasn't able to be identified for quite some time actually until. 22:49.808 --> 23:08.712 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... haul himself gave that up on January the 13th of 1978 one Donald Macmillan Thompson Hall halls half-brother younger by 17 years was released from prison after three years for burglary accrued unkept pedophile Donald disgusted archbilled his brother 23:08.692 --> 23:16.981 [SPEAKER_00]: But Archibald revealed plans to Rob, Lady Hudson, and Hall regretted including him in the knowledge of these plans. 23:17.762 --> 23:25.051 [SPEAKER_00]: So one night when they're getting drunk, they wanted to demonstrate tying techniques for an upcoming robbery, and Keto bound Donald. 23:25.611 --> 23:34.041 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall then chloroformed his half-brother, then poured chloroformed down his throat drowning him in the bathtub afterwards. 23:34.021 --> 23:42.734 [SPEAKER_00]: They placed them in the trunk, and then headed to North berth, and then headed to North berwick, Debarium. 23:43.435 --> 23:44.136 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't laugh there. 23:44.156 --> 23:45.378 [SPEAKER_00]: That was just me clearing my throat. 23:45.618 --> 23:47.280 [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't do that. 23:48.042 --> 23:50.946 [SPEAKER_00]: In seven months, Hall had killed five people. 23:52.668 --> 23:55.152 [SPEAKER_00]: Things were completely out of control. 24:01.173 --> 24:14.268 [SPEAKER_00]: January 1978, Rod heavy snow, Archibald Hall Junior instructed Keto to swap the rental plates ending in 999, because he deemed that number unlucky as it matched emergency numbers. 24:14.990 --> 24:17.477 [SPEAKER_00]: But Keto forgot the tax disc. 24:17.761 --> 24:18.723 [SPEAKER_00]: This was a bad move. 24:19.405 --> 24:25.317 [SPEAKER_00]: When they stopped in Dunbar for food, they stayed at Blendheim House Hotel in North Burwick, due to the storm. 24:26.159 --> 24:33.254 [SPEAKER_00]: Owner, Mr. Wright, suspicious of Hall's nervousness during registration, called police fearing a skip on the bill. 24:33.855 --> 24:38.385 [SPEAKER_00]: Police when they arrived noted that vehicle, the rental with the switch plates. 24:38.365 --> 24:42.269 [SPEAKER_00]: And they saw that there was a plate-disk mismatch. 24:42.609 --> 24:46.253 [SPEAKER_00]: You can see the tax-discably they call it on the vehicle. 24:46.654 --> 24:48.656 [SPEAKER_00]: It did not match the plate number. 24:48.676 --> 24:50.958 [SPEAKER_00]: Paul and Keto claimed that they had borrowed the car. 24:51.739 --> 25:01.929 [SPEAKER_00]: At the police station, Paul managed to escape while going to the bathroom and got through a window, searching the car later police found Donald's body. 25:02.530 --> 25:03.211 [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, fuck crap. 25:03.711 --> 25:04.152 [SPEAKER_00]: The brother. 25:04.672 --> 25:05.453 [SPEAKER_00]: To haul. 25:07.373 --> 25:11.159 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall was recaptured at a haddington roadblock in a Dunbar taxi. 25:11.760 --> 25:15.546 [SPEAKER_00]: He swallowed pills at that point in a suicide attempt. 25:15.566 --> 25:19.312 [SPEAKER_00]: He failed and was treated at Edinburgh Hospital, he recovered. 25:20.274 --> 25:33.735 [SPEAKER_00]: Keto confessed first, Hall followed, leading police to bodies amid media frenzy, and deep snow they exhumed right from the stream, Dorothy from her ditch, and Walter partially eaten by foxes. 25:33.715 --> 25:40.667 [SPEAKER_00]: An antique dealer and new castle underline linked the car to undervalued sales from the bloody Scott Elliott flat. 25:41.408 --> 25:45.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Over 3,500 pound in valuables have been stolen from that. 25:45.876 --> 25:46.277 [SPEAKER_00]: A state. 25:46.858 --> 25:52.888 [SPEAKER_00]: Bell-Fast Mary Mary Coggle's Christmas discovery and hotel records connected everything. 25:52.868 --> 26:08.744 [SPEAKER_00]: Archible Thompson Hall II, aka Roy Fontaine, was tried in Edinburgh, in May or November of 1978, accounts vary, and then in London, maybe once in one place, next to the other place, that's what I can figure from it, but who gives a fuck? 26:08.764 --> 26:10.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Paul confessed to all five murders. 26:11.087 --> 26:17.273 [SPEAKER_00]: Described as a psychopath with a cold, side of me when aroused that is cold and completely heartless. 26:17.675 --> 26:19.137 [SPEAKER_00]: He received four life sentences. 26:19.778 --> 26:21.721 [SPEAKER_00]: Scotland recommended 15 years minimum. 26:22.322 --> 26:24.125 [SPEAKER_00]: England recommended never to release. 26:24.926 --> 26:26.228 [SPEAKER_00]: Keto got three life terms. 26:26.709 --> 26:27.971 [SPEAKER_00]: No minimum in Scotland. 26:27.991 --> 26:29.514 [SPEAKER_00]: 15 years in England. 26:30.215 --> 26:31.637 [SPEAKER_00]: Public records unclear. 26:31.697 --> 26:34.882 [SPEAKER_00]: The public records are unclear on Keto's release or death. 26:35.423 --> 26:44.357 [SPEAKER_00]: Ironically, that arrest likely saved him from haul, killing him eventually, as he always would, with witnesses and accomplices in his crimes. 26:44.860 --> 26:48.784 [SPEAKER_00]: Archibald, Thompson Hall II, received a whole life tariff. 26:49.384 --> 26:51.666 [SPEAKER_00]: What a Britain's oldest, unrecorded. 26:51.686 --> 26:53.348 [SPEAKER_00]: He attempted suicide multiple times. 26:54.088 --> 26:58.392 [SPEAKER_00]: In 1995, he wrote to the observer, demanding Euthanasia for lifers. 26:59.113 --> 27:07.460 [SPEAKER_00]: He published a perfect gentleman written in 1999, which was later retitled to kill and kill again, and then the wicked Mr. Hall. 27:08.021 --> 27:14.867 [SPEAKER_00]: The book romanticizes his life as a connoisseur of fine wines and expert in antiques 27:14.847 --> 27:21.577 [SPEAKER_00]: He cornered the media, starting bidding wars over the book, and encouraged relatives to profit from his notoriety. 27:22.358 --> 27:38.341 [SPEAKER_00]: Archibald Thompson hauled a second, aka Roy Fontaine, died of a stroke in September 16, 2002, at HMP Kingston, Port Smith, age 78 he was, the only prisoner to serve a full natural life sentence without parole. 27:39.583 --> 27:41.125 [SPEAKER_00]: He was my great uncle. 27:42.691 --> 27:43.574 [SPEAKER_00]: I was fucking with you. 27:43.856 --> 27:44.719 [SPEAKER_00]: The story kind of sucks. 27:44.739 --> 27:47.148 [SPEAKER_00]: So I want to do something there for you. 27:47.169 --> 27:48.032 [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't my great uncle. 27:48.413 --> 27:48.955 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a liar. 27:49.598 --> 27:50.642 [SPEAKER_00]: Just like he was. 27:50.909 --> 28:18.908 [SPEAKER_00]: Archibald Thompson hauled a second transition from thief and con man to murderer driven by resentment towards the affluent he and feet yet aspired to emulate unlike typical serial killers he targeted acquaintances when threatened his accounts mixed fact and fantasy discrepancies highlight his delusions psychologically archibald hall exhibited classic 28:18.888 --> 28:27.462 [SPEAKER_00]: was he star-struck, craving fame, a class warrior, resenting nobility, or mad, present sanity commitments. 28:28.263 --> 28:33.051 [SPEAKER_00]: His books reveal a man desperate for legacy as a legible scoundrel, not a monster. 28:33.853 --> 28:44.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Media sensationalism granted him the notoriety he sought, cementing his place in criminal history, despite his wishes as the monster butler. 28:54.848 --> 28:56.389 [SPEAKER_00]: And that will do it. 28:57.451 --> 28:58.171 [SPEAKER_00]: The Butler did it. 28:59.152 --> 29:05.218 [SPEAKER_00]: After all, no need for a long drunken rant after every episode, especially when I'm sober. 29:06.019 --> 29:06.780 [SPEAKER_00]: Forgive me for those. 29:07.040 --> 29:10.924 [SPEAKER_00]: I once in a while I'll let it rip at the end, but I mean, I think most of you are cool with it. 29:14.147 --> 29:17.970 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm gonna lay off those for a bit because I'm sober and I'm at a cigarettes. 29:18.451 --> 29:20.273 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's a good idea going forward. 29:20.653 --> 29:22.695 [SPEAKER_00]: I should think it would be a good idea. 29:23.215 --> 29:33.608 [SPEAKER_00]: And now that I'm a proper gentleman with this new year of 2026, beginning with the monster about their whom I'm so inspired by, especially with killing everybody that part. 29:33.728 --> 29:35.470 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm kidding, I don't want to kill anybody, God. 29:36.131 --> 29:39.535 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm now into the idea of hunting, though, like a proper gentleman, of course. 29:40.016 --> 29:44.021 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the process of completing the safety tests that I need to complete. 29:44.081 --> 29:46.544 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm obtaining a possession license for a rifle. 29:47.064 --> 29:49.668 [SPEAKER_00]: Here in Canada, you're not born with the right to bear arms. 29:50.329 --> 29:53.172 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless we're talking t-shirts, but it's a little cold for that. 29:53.219 --> 30:00.391 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing a proper vest right now, so it's heated, actually I have a sweater underneath it so I don't have bare arms at the moment. 30:00.912 --> 30:01.333 [SPEAKER_00]: Where was I? 30:01.433 --> 30:11.050 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I have to prove yourself capable and prepared and sing to own a gun here, which is insane or so I'm told by some of my American friends, with completely bare arms. 30:11.671 --> 30:13.354 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking wife beaters. 30:13.469 --> 30:17.334 [SPEAKER_00]: their wife beaters who cut the sleeves off their t-shirts. 30:17.354 --> 30:20.198 [SPEAKER_00]: I live in a place where you should know how to get your own food. 30:20.718 --> 30:27.227 [SPEAKER_00]: The literal middle of nowhere, and it's making me nervous depending on they're always being meat at the grocery store, sometimes there isn't. 30:27.788 --> 30:30.631 [SPEAKER_00]: Always being gas at the gas station, sometimes there isn't where I am. 30:31.392 --> 30:33.435 [SPEAKER_00]: One bad month out here and we're at a luck. 30:33.888 --> 30:35.773 [SPEAKER_00]: Last of the delivery list up here. 30:36.896 --> 30:40.505 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you're going to become a perfect gentleman with a weapon. 30:40.986 --> 30:42.830 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to shoot a bunch of rabbits in here. 30:43.171 --> 30:47.181 [SPEAKER_00]: Baby, here I'm, baby, mostly I like to eat, I want to kill him. 30:47.201 --> 30:47.703 [SPEAKER_00]: I like to kill. 30:48.204 --> 30:50.911 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't fit because they got the tender meat. 30:50.931 --> 30:51.492 [SPEAKER_00]: It's getting... 30:51.472 --> 30:57.338 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of a bad month, check out Dark Topic Plus where I've added a new show, Jack Luna's bad news. 30:57.978 --> 31:03.684 [SPEAKER_00]: A monthly recap of current crime events spanning the terrifying mysterious and odd, of each month. 31:04.425 --> 31:11.371 [SPEAKER_00]: Get on there on Dark Topic Plus and you'll get that every month at the high level tiers, and they drop once in a while, while those 13 floor drops. 31:11.972 --> 31:16.636 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone loves it, don't check it out, there's free trials of bound, links in the show notes. 31:17.718 --> 31:18.238 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, 31:18.843 --> 31:21.586 [SPEAKER_00]: This has become a bit of a bore, I dare say. 31:22.507 --> 31:26.492 [SPEAKER_00]: I dare shoot, and I, for one, blame the Butler. 31:26.913 --> 31:32.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Until next time, keep those eyes cocked, those doors locked, and stay paranoid, big love, everybody, happy new year. 31:33.580 --> 31:39.407 [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, let me share one more thing with you before you go. 31:40.248 --> 31:48.478 [SPEAKER_00]: As your Butler and true crime, it's something I've been working on here. 31:49.083 --> 31:53.569 [SPEAKER_00]: Then that's because you weren't where you were supposed to be in those times. 31:55.090 --> 31:59.816 [SPEAKER_00]: Any time you look back and see that gap, you weren't supposed to be there. 32:01.639 --> 32:03.180 [SPEAKER_00]: You were supposed to be somewhere else. 32:03.841 --> 32:05.303 [SPEAKER_00]: You made the wrong decision. 32:06.825 --> 32:17.318 [SPEAKER_00]: Make the decision going forward that you feel in your gut you should make every single time. 32:18.547 --> 32:19.209 [SPEAKER_00]: with you.