[SPEAKER_01]: Hello and welcome back to ActRAC.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Jed Wolpa and I am thrilled to have a fabulous show today.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have with me the one and only anesthesia god.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I probably do not even need to introduce this person, but I will say anyway that this is one of the most influential anesthesia focused Instagram pages on the entire platform.
[SPEAKER_01]: anesthesia god has over 16 million views every month, 16 million.
[SPEAKER_01]: roughly 270,000 followers.
[SPEAKER_01]: That puts the account in the top one to two percent of Instagram creators by Reach Efficiency and among the top half percent of medical creators by views and just to put that in perspective, most successful professional or anesthesia focused accounts have somewhere in like the five to 40,000 followers range.
[SPEAKER_01]: While anesthesia God, as I said, has 270,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And consistently delivers nearly 60 times that number in monthly reach, which means people are sharing these things so widely because they love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it really says a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think about the quality of the account and how far reaching it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Asia God is a CRNA and a system professor, but we cannot disclose his name or university affiliation.
[SPEAKER_01]: He practices full-time clinically and has been in practice for more than 10 years, including academic teaching.
[SPEAKER_01]: He specializes in neuro and pediatric anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is your God.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey man, what's happening?
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely thrilled to have you here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the incredible work you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to talk about, let's talk about you a little bit first.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me a little bit about you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know you're a CRNA.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as I mentioned, you've been practicing for about 10 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you been doing pediatric and neuro-analysis at that whole time or has your practice evolved over time?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I started out to in pediatric anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really loved pediatric anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was, you know, it's a little more challenging.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was different.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, you know, always those moments of terror where you're like freaking out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, these kids bounce back so quickly that it's like, okay, wow, he's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was just blue.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's in back you drinking apple juice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're good.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I love that aspect of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do a lot of adults as well, but I think like primarily now I'm doing more adults.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do do some neuro.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do teach pediatrics and teach neuro, though.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it was sort of my focus.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I kind of like do a little bit of everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I loved pediatric anesthesia as a resident, but I think for me I had kids at the same time, and so I would be taking care of these babies while I had my own babies at home, and it was tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I, in the end, I decided to go other ways, but I have a ton of respect for people who do that every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've, you know, that's the, the one thing is, you know, kind of keeping it together in the operating room because I feel like the entire staff is watching you when things are going bad with the kid and depending on your reaction is how people are going to react, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I'm flipping out, they're going to flip out, but plenty of times I'll drop them off and pack you and went to the locker room and gone to the fetal position and cried for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, again, thanks for the work you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have also, of course, this this outside or or other job.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure it is a job.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do an incredible amount of work with anesthesia God.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're posting multiple things every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: When did you first start this account?
[SPEAKER_00]: Start it like the end of 2021.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the start of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the start, so about five years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what was the inspiration, you know, was this just, what was the origin story?
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us how you got going.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a student with me in the operating room, and I was, of course, teaching, but I was also making fun of everyone in the operating room, which is what I normally do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Behind the drapes and they were like, you should have a mean page, and I was like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really even know what me, like I knew what a meme was, but I didn't know like there was these huge pages that just did memes, and I started following this account, Gassie CRNA, which was he's really the OG of like anesthesia memes, and he was like the only one doing it, and I was like, okay, so maybe I could just make fun of people on the internet instead of doing it in the operating room, and I started it up, and I
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a group called CRNA moms.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are a Facebook group.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're tens of thousands of them in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a very select group.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to prove you're CRNA, you have to prove you have a child.
[SPEAKER_00]: It literally, if the send them blood samples to get into this group, it's difficult to get in.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't let just anyone in.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I started posting some content and someone took the content from there and put it on that Facebook page.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I literally woke up the next morning, it's like 5,000 followers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, these, these women are like New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: So from there, the next day was like another 5,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it pretty much was just growing exponentially from them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do owe a lot to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do owe a lot of, you know, Gassie Sierra and I started posting some of my stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was how I kind of,
[SPEAKER_00]: start of the growth, but they were my big kickoff shout out to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love them very much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, do you have a background in comedy?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like anybody can, can I guess that up a meme page?
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, they don't necessarily going to be funny and popular and can consistently, so over time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, was this just something you learned on the go or did you have prior experience with this kind of kind of making people laugh, comedy of any kind, improv?
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything that might have helped you be successful with this?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my mom's friends, think I'm funny in Facebook.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, I was a class clown in high school.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a class clown in middle school, in grade school, in middle school, like whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a comedian for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm a comedian for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I tend to, I like to make people laugh, of course, and I think,
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you, there are mean pages that I see and I can just what, I can look at the memes and just be like, that's not really a funny person.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying very hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, this comes very easily.
[SPEAKER_00]: The content comes easily because a lot of it is sent to me from people and then I just kind of alter it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also I just can see a picture and be like, I can relate that to the OR in some way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess it's just more creative flow than it is comedians status.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now that's interesting that people so when you first started I'm assuming this was all your own self generated content and then as you got more well known and popular than people started sending your stuff is that kind of how it happened and now it's mostly stuff you alter from others or is it a balance kind of between the two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I get a lot of my DMs or everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the reason why I think this page is grown is because it's an organic following of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're almost cult-like, these people, which I love.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, really cool to have that.
[SPEAKER_00]: that sort of, that feeling of community, there is a very strong feeling of community.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've raised hundreds of thousands of dollars with this page, you know, for, you know, someone is sick, someone passed away, someone needs this, someone needs that, I don't post a lot of that, so when I do people react to it and I don't post a lot of it on purpose because I do want it to, to be like, okay, well, you know, he's never recommended this, now he's recommended this, I want to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't do a lot of advertising, I don't do anything, so it is a very organic group of people,
[SPEAKER_00]: and it was grown organically so they are very committed to the page and they are committed to sending stuff, you know, for example, take the, I don't know, everyone's into the whole nail thing is, is got everyone think I'm a female, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Part of being an honest is just, I didn't want people to come to the page.
[SPEAKER_00]: just because they wanted to see me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted them to come to the page for the content and not really care about who I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ironically, when you're anonymous, they care more about who you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's almost like, you know, you're, there mission becomes who is this person, especially a bunch of type A and a strategic people that are like we need to know what this person is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's to become sort of fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never set out to hide my gender, but with the nails, I think people assumed I was female.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the nails came from Follower.
[SPEAKER_00]: They set me something, and it was their nails, you know, against like a civil flooring bottle, I was like, that looks cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: They match, post it at once, and then, you know, that night I get 30 dms of the nails, and people liked it, so I kept doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so that's how a lot of the things evolve in the page of the page sort of evolves itself, kind of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I have to ask about the nails when you say sometimes 4 out of four, is that a rating?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that like 100% rating?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is that mean something else that I don't understand about about nails?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I was kind of forced to learn a little bit about nails, like I know what a fillin is.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they've grown out too much, and there's a space between the cuticle and the nail, it's like, okay, they need a fillin.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've learned that because, like, I'll post nail, and then, you know, they'll come in the dents, but like, those are horrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: She needs a fillin.
[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't gotten them done, or, you know, so I try not to rate them too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just like, when the colors match, but these, the females on the page seem to love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, looking at my demographic, it's about 72% females on the page.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they really enjoy the nail content.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then anything else that came along, then the men got upset about the nails.
[SPEAKER_00]: They started sending their fancy watches, so they started post the watches, so things just sort of catch on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's a lot of things that don't catch on.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are sending me cool sneakers for a while, and then that kind of faded out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd just kind of go with the flow and see what's happening at the page and what people really want to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of what I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so do you, so let's say you post a sneakers and is it that you're looking into see kind of the hits and the shares and then if that Peter's out, you say, okay, enough with the sneakers, is that, is that the feedback you get to kind of decide how to pursue different areas?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I go to the DMs for everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what a lot of content creators don't do.
[SPEAKER_00]: They start to be like, you know, if this is so huge, this page, I'm getting so many DMs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to ignore that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I may maybe do the ones that have a verified star, whatever it is, a verified check.
[SPEAKER_00]: I try to go through every single DM, which is, I probably get about 250 a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's something silly, I just glance over it or I'll throw a little heart on something or whatever, but for the most part, I am trying to see
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I see someone will send me some news thing in anesthesia and I'll get three or four of those, I'm like, right, they want to hear about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting like three or four of these.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I really pay attention to the DMs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I interact in the DMs, which a lot of content creators don't do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they just focus on pumping out content and not really,
[SPEAKER_00]: gaging what's going on with the audience and I think that was a big part of my growth as well as to And now it's at a point where it's like they can't believe I'm responding to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, I'm not like untouchable here This is like an Instagram page and I'm a normal person like but um, it's allowed me to also help a lot of people because if you go through the DMs there is
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a percentage of people that are in trouble or they're not, you know, they're not doing well on the residency or they need, you know, they need to be talked off the ledge and I'll take the time to do that sometimes, I'll say like listen, you can call through the app, let's have a conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: I may have done that so many times.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of behind the scenes of the page that people don't really see is the work that goes behind the scenes with, you know, talking to people or interacting with people in the DMs with the DMs or everything and I think a lot of content creators don't understand that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's really amazing and I picked up a little bit of that from something that things you posted.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I imagine when you first started, this was really just making people laugh.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was memes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's some point.
[SPEAKER_01]: you started to have this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's still there for sure, but you also started to have what you just mentioned, which is this ability to reach and help people who maybe are struggling in their training or who are feeling down or who just needs someone to talk to, but you somehow ended up as that person who they reach out to, when did that happen along the way?
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that pretty early on or is that more recent?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was pretty early on, because I think being funny people assume you're a potential, which is really cool about, I guess, you know, making jokes and being funny in the internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: it's strange people will what always surprises me when people write to me and they say they want me to do their anesthesia if am I available to I work near any hospital like you know lay people don't know and they just think like you know I could just walk in any hospital like I'm giving anesthesia room six guys I'll see you in a little bit like you know they they're like what would it take for you to do my anesthesia I'm like
[SPEAKER_00]: How does it go from making jokes on the internet to this guy's got to do my anesthesia?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some trust there, or something that makes them feel comfortable, or I've had a major major
[SPEAKER_00]: female celebrity come to me because she's having a mile of me and she had questions about the anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even disclose who this is because she's very, very famous, famous actress, but, you know, there's some degree of trust that comes along with, I guess, the humor of it all.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really sure how that works, but, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: But people definitely are not shy about reaching out and saying, hey, I'm in trouble.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have a posture syndrome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the operating room.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going on with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm very good at talking to you off the ledge because I'm very passionate about anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you've gotten this far, I'm not letting you juggle off that ledge.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get you through this.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you got into the residency or you got into the CRNA school, like we're going to you through.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so people just want to say hi to me before they go take their boards.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll call them the morning of their boards and say good luck.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do all kinds of stuff like that, which I love a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what really, what that says to me, the part about people reaching out and saying what you do my anesthesia is what we, I think, have lost in some ways in medicine, right, which is that people would take someone they know and feel a connection with.
[SPEAKER_01]: over without knowing anything about their medical skills right just because of that connection and we don't have that very much anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean we I had a patient the other day who was a physician here and so I when I found out I was going to do the anesthesia form I reached out I called them the night before and I just said you know just wanted to say hi and tell you I'm you know yesterday questions
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it really made a difference to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of said to myself, you know, I really should do this for everybody, but, you know, I don't, maybe I will start.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, that kind of thing, just having some connection is amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what this shows, is that people who feel that connection with you, that override almost anything else, because they don't often feel a connection with their sometimes any other doctors, but certainly their anesthesia providers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I try to, and I make that a point in my, you know, sort of, in my daily, you know, daily giving anesthesia routine is to try to have a few minutes of that patient and not just talk about the history, not just like, say, open your mouth as much as you can to get your tongue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's more about like, you know, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: something to I try to make everyone laugh at least once before we hit the hour, you know, make them feel somewhat comfortable with this person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's a bizarre experience of you think about you walk in and then it's like this guy is going to put me full of drugs, put me to sleep right now and basically have my life and his hands and I've met him five minutes ago and he's just asking about my diabetes and if I took my own zampic.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: That I think that's a very challenging thing, and as usual, we have to sort of win them over and sort of gain their trust even more so it peeds, you know, like, okay, I'm going to talk to you and bomb, and then you're going to hand me this baby right now, which is, it's crazy if you think about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is really crazy and credit I haven't had to do it wouldn't one of my daughters had a procedure You know, it is even for someone who knows all of the people and knows all the things about it It is incredibly stressful and nerve wracking to hand your kid over to somebody else even someone you know So absolutely agree with you there Do you know for fuel?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would feel that if I weren't your shoes, I would feel at least sometimes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I feel a lot of pressure, like pressure, that I have to get stuff out on the account.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a post stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also maybe pressure that I've now developed this reputation amongst at least my followers of someone who will do things like, call you the morning of your boards or respond if you say I'm in trouble or I'm struggling or I'm upset or I'm not doing well in training or I have in post or center.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, do you ever feel like
[SPEAKER_01]: it's what if you can't get to it all, you know, just that feel like too much pressure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you can handle it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, it's interesting because if there is a shift with me, if there's something going on in my life and there, you know, if I'm going through a rough time or something, um, people pick up on it almost immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: The followers, they, they do get to know you,
[SPEAKER_00]: There is, so a lot goes into the memes, a lot of people think it's very simple and like, oh, he just took a picture and wrote something on it, there's always something in there that has to do with me whether it's the song I choose, sometimes the song just suits the meme but sometimes it's, if I'm feeling a certain way I'll post a certain type of music for that
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like a timeline for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can go back and through and look through the memes and say, oh, I remember that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going through this at that time.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're more than what they've seen.
[SPEAKER_00]: And aesthetically, I'm very crazy if it's like, if it's cropped in some way that I don't like, I'll just throw it away.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, people don't realize all that stuff that sort of goes into what looks like a really simple meme.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they won't notice when I'm off a little bit and say, hey, are you doing okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: You only posted once today and so at three times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'll just shut down a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have enough content, open up my iPhone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: How much content is in there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just waiting to be posted, because sometimes I kind of like, well, I should do that, sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it, so I kind of have to think about it, but before I post it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I usually have something ready to go on of just post it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually the stories die down a little bit if I'm really busy or if, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: It's strange because when there's something going on in your life and the people around you, they will judge you for posting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, let's just make an example like say, you know, I have a girlfriend or something and you're like, oh, you're really mad.
[SPEAKER_00]: You posted like seven stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: How mad are you?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, so that part is hard that everyone's watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if I don't grade my students' exams, it's like, okay, yeah, but you also posted like 30 stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't have an exam grade.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's annoying kind of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could see that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you estimate like how much time on average do you spend a day kind of putting this together and putting things out?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, including responding to DMs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably close to three hours, I would say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do a little bit in the morning and then I'll do a little bit like on breaks at work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a throughout the whole day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of scattered, but yeah, probably two to three hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it you must enjoy right I mean, you can't spend that much time on something if you're if you're feeling it's just a grind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sure at times it is when you maybe have your stress your tire, but in general, you must you must get a lot out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just, it's such a cool creative outlet.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is, it's a very weird feeling to have, like 270,000 people at your fingertips.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is, it's a very strange feeling.
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes I'll just kind of go off the road, I'll just be like, are I gonna post a picture of my kitchen table?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just do things like, because I just wanna be on hinge, but it's just because it's a very powerful feeling to know that you have all this at your disposal.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's also cool to know you can do something really positive with it, you know, and you can do something cool with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of always there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where it's headed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a parable business man.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sure I could have monetized this and made a ton of money on it, but I haven't done anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a very DIY ethic which just do everything yourself, you know, I print my own stickers when they're in stock and they're never in stock But I don't keep up on things and people like start outsourcing this stuff and I'm like I feel like if I outsource it It's gonna lose something and I'm always afraid that something will happen with this page as far as like, you know It I never wanted to change as long as it's working, you know
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely, and it is certainly working, is the different kind of things that have come out of it, the stickers, the scrub hats, was that something you envisioned for the beginning or did someone suggested to you, where did that stuff come from?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, listen, I never thought this was, so when I set out to make this page, I wanted it to be a human person, you know, I didn't want to call it like, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: and excuse you means, man, like, I wanted to be like, this is an anesthesia, God, this is a person, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted it to be an actual person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was laying a bed one night like two in the morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I started messing around with that dumb emoji, really.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really silly, this logo that I created, you know, just sitting there sort of like trying to make this thing look like me a little bit, I guess, this is the little icon that's on the main page.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I do anything to change that logo, people immediately start calling, go back to the old logo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I literally put it into chat to you because you know, I was like, change the lighting, make this look a little more professional and I post it the next day and I was like, what is this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Take this out of here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's the old emoji?
[SPEAKER_00]: And that emoji became the brand pretty much.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for the hell of it, I was like, let me print out like 300 stickers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll throw it up on a website, see what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were sold out in like 17 minutes and I was like, what is going on with this like this is crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at that moment probably anyone would have said I need help.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to like, you know, outsource this stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so I printed 300 more.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm literally sitting in my house, linking envelopes sending these things out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, this is wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was something cool about handwriting each person's address and sending it to them and they're like, oh my gosh, you actually wrote my address.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's something cool about it all, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've turned down tons of scrub deals.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've turned down palm mask deals.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, everyone has come to me and because I'm anonymous, I can't do anything with it really.
[SPEAKER_00]: Except do like some little bit of advertising, but as far as monetization goes, I haven't done much of it
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the interesting things about the page of people don't know is it's literally always one post away from being shut down by Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: I am, I mean, I wanted to come on here and talk a little bit about the haters because people don't believe me when I say, I have people that hate me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why, you know, we're sitting or talking about, like talking people with the legend.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a group of people that are out for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I post a vial of medication on this page, it could be glyco, it could be anything, it could be neocnephrine.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I just post that vial to my story, it will almost immediately be taken down and flagged for drug trafficking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't think Instagram is watching me that closely, but someone is watching the page where one of those vials pops up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I fought with Instagram and I've tried to, you know, tell them, this is a medical page.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are prescription meds that we use and I would never post ketamine and never post like Fence and all or something like that, but even just a vile, it's flagged for drug trafficking.
[SPEAKER_00]: And people don't realize that I'm so restricted with the content with what I do from Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a, the page literally was almost shut down.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave me the final warning.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a few months ago, it was someone sitting on a sofa.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the sofa was, it was not a flood.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the sofa was, you know, running down a river.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looked funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it wasn't, but, you know, so I said, like leaving the room shoulder or a thrascape or something like that, whatever, because of all the water.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was flying.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's for like making fun of third world countries.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, it was really, that was probably my worst violation.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to tell, I have to censor so much and be so careful with what I post because it's literally right now I'm on warning to be shut down, it's always kind of been on warnings since I started it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that eliminates me from monetization, that eliminates me from the explorer page, and that's why I say this is organic because Instagram algorithm hates me.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I see a stranger and I say, hey, what's up?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I see you got follow me on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: They will literally have to type A and E as T. You know, unless that's a type it up to the GA for it to actually pop up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where did you think of me?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd never would have guessed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and so, and you think, look, what's the driver?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're saying there are people who have for whatever reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've just decided their anti your account.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're like reporting every time they see something that they think is reportable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't think they're reporting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, ironically, the people who don't interact with me are about the 10 to 20K anesthesia influencer people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stay with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be right back.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and we're back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see you one of their posts and like, oh, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to like this and I like it and I look at their account.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they don't follow me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So right there is kind of like, no, I don't think everyone should follow me.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're in anesthesia, you've seen one of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen something about or heard something about me with the amount of stuff that gets shared.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I mean gets 4,000 forwards, like someone has shown you something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you didn't follow me, you probably don't like me or whatever it might be or not like my content, but that is the demographic that I have the least amount of, like these people that are so called anesthesia influencers or any type of influencer in the 10 to 20k follower range.
[SPEAKER_00]: They hate me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And why do you think that is any idea?
[SPEAKER_00]: because they ain't me, they're jealous.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do, I think, I mean, I don't know, I mean, but listen, this was a, this was no small thing that I did, like, this was not an easy thing to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I don't know why you'd be jealous.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually put the work in to do this and work to really hard on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I could actually probably help you if you, if you DM me and we talk a little bit and you got some content like you could put on, maybe I'll help you put on some content like, I don't understand the whole, like, oh God, this anesthesia God.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard, like, you know, there are, I've heard
[SPEAKER_00]: someone talking on a podcast about me saying like, you know, I talk about how real it is to go to CNA school.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of people out there going, like, oh, anyone could do CNA school.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone, it's like, no, it's kind of hard, it's difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: And anesthesia is difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we make jokes and say, like, you know, you're sitting on a chair all day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not easy stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, there are a few hours of boredom and moments of terror.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the moments of terror, what you're like.
[SPEAKER_00]: trained to do and I try to be real with people, you know, in that way and I think a lot of people think, you know, I discourage people from like, you know, going further than maybe, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess I could see somebody in anesthesia might not like the idea of portraying anesthesiologists as sitting in chairs all day and not doing anything, but I mean, I think you have to know that's like how we joke about ourselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the biggest contrast of a joke like it's like we talk about that, but we really know what goes on and the people in the room know what goes on.
[SPEAKER_00]: They know like we might be sitting, but we're actually listening and we're watching and we see everything that's happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think it's, you know, it's one of those things though, like you're not doing good until you have like a bunch of people hating you also, you know, if you have haters, then you know you're doing something right is what I've always been told.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's just how I see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't possibly make everybody happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So 270,000 followers.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't all be CRNAs and SRNAs, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: There aren't that I think there aren't that many.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like 67,000 in the United States, but yeah, so that was, that was one of my challenges, like how am I going to get bigger than anyone, as I've ever gotten on for anesthesia memes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, if you have such a niche account, you'll only get, you'll plateau at some point.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I started to plateau at probably the 70K range.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, how do I keep this going?
[SPEAKER_00]: How do I engage surgeons now?
[SPEAKER_00]: How do I get other people involved with this?
[SPEAKER_00]: And still make relevant and asthesia content.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when sort of the veterinarian stuff came in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did some dental stuff that came in.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think the surgeon started catching on that I was, you know, that it's kind of like, hey, he's making fun of anesthesia, but he's also making fun of boss.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think if you make fun of yourself, you can get away with making fun of other people as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of surgery people got like, you know, gotten involved, a lot of ICU people started getting started doing so ICU content.
[SPEAKER_00]: The veterinarian concept to me is the most interesting, because that group of providers is so underappreciated, they're undercompensated.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they took this as, this is a human anesthesia person who's recognizing what we do, he's got a big platform, and this stuff is actually cool, like the human stuff is cool to see, but it's really cool for the humans to see what we do.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we've seen a billion people get anticipated, like let's see a rabbit get anticipated.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it exploded on my page from mostly the anesthesia people loved it because it was like wow I put kids to sleep or people to sleep every day like let's see how they're putting you know a sheep to sleep You know So they absolutely love the content and the vets are probably some of my most loyal followers because they feel like I'm spreading somewhere and it's about You know these people listen do these people are smart man
[SPEAKER_00]: they have to know every species, like you put a get go to sleep and then you're put in like a cat to sleep, like this wild stuff, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the amount of knowledge, but they also do a lot of things at very certain, they decawto blocks, they do like stuff that we could do, which is like, wow, this is really cool to see, you know, the two worlds collide.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that you include that content.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you tell me about the name?
[SPEAKER_01]: You said you didn't want it to be a kind of generic name, like Anastasia memes.
[SPEAKER_01]: How did you pick Anastasia God specifically?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, tank, land, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me more.
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, they're the bad, like, they're the baddest rap group ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're, they're a clan, they're a crew.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were just, they were the gods, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they spelted G-A-W-D, so I was like, all right, well, if they're the rap gods, I'm the anesthesia god, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: You sometimes post, I don't know if it's things from, it's, is there another account called nail gods, or is that like just something you put on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that just a part of the meme?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, people started to try to like, yeah, I don't, so I don't play into all the hashtags and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't do anything that Instagram wants me to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes people are hashtagging like nail gods and all this stuff and I start, I toyed around the idea of making some, you know, I think people would probably buy a shirt that said nail gods because they just love the content, but nothing ever really came of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's just kind of a hashtag that's out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you're, I think, only on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you thought about other platforms like TikTok and YouTube, or have you purposely stayed only with Instagram?
[SPEAKER_00]: I played around with TikTok a little bit and I kind of made TikTok like a highlight reel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone actually took the name anesthesia god on TikTok and I tried to message them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't give it to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm the real anesthesia god on TikTok.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I only got to about 7,000 followers on TikTok.
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't grow on there because
[SPEAKER_00]: I think TikTok is more showing your face, you know, get ready with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I make up that I'm going to like tap on the the lids, you know, and that's not what I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of seeing memes pop up on TikTok doesn't really work for people.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I have any content that I actually film live, like if something in the operating room or something, I'll put it there and it does well, but other than that, the algorithm there is very different and they're looking for like how clear to your eyes look, are you lined up with the camera and like all this weird stuff?
[SPEAKER_00]: that these influencers do so it's it's just not the right format for for the memes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that makes sense and so when you think about all the I mean I thousands maybe more who knows of memes that you've posted over time do you have a favorite I mean that must be like you get that question up for all the time but you know if you think a favorite of few favorites that you think back on that you really loved.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the interesting thing about the memes is if I love it and I'm sitting there in a lounge making a meme and I'm cracking up laughing to myself, my co-workers think I'm not, so I thought I was like, I'll be making something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those do horrible, like the ones that I really love, like they do terrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I gotta tell you, I have to do in this for years.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't know what something is gonna do until I put it out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I never know.
[SPEAKER_00]: And ironically, the means that do the best are the means that are that I create in three minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I throw something spontaneously in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I post it out there and it'll take off like crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this morning, I sat there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I probably sat there almost an hour editing a real,
[SPEAKER_00]: I was putting a typing sound in it, it was a guy texting, he was texting his wife, I'm sorry, I couldn't get back to the hours crazy, but he was sitting with his feet up on the end of the season machine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was great and look great, it sounded great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I posted this one, it absolutely flopped like it was terrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the ones that I just do off the cuff usually happen very, very quickly and they do very well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the last time I put into it, it seems like the better it is and the more spontaneous it is, the better it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, once I start thinking and getting my brain into it, it usually doesn't work out for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you must just have that kind of natural instinct of what's funny and what's not, and maybe that's why the spontaneous things just come off well.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you say something did well or it flopped, are you judging that based on shares and likes or what information do you get back?
[SPEAKER_00]: I usually look at the likes, but initially I will.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I don't get, you know, if it doesn't hit 100 likes in 10 minutes, I usually archive it and delete it because within 3 to 4 minutes I can tell if this thing is going to take it off or not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually by the 10 minute mark, I should be somewhere in like the 3 to 400 likes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll also look at the number of people that saw it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I see, all right, 3,000 people saw this and three people liked it, that's not very good.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if 3,000 saw and 30 like it, we're doing okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have all these weird sort of metrics that I use in my brain for like, is this gonna be successful or not?
[SPEAKER_00]: You should always leave it there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I just, like, I want everything to be a hit on the page, which is really bad, but it's not the right thing to do for the algorithm, but it's just what I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a personal account that I use, it's a personal anesthesia, it's personal just my Instagram account that I go and I follow all the movies and I follow all the movie clips and funny meme pages so I go there and actually
[SPEAKER_01]: okay interesting so when you yeah i was i was gonna ask you about that because obviously some people people send you stuff and you can mess around with it but if you're going out looking for your own content you've got to have a pretty wide kind of knowledge of the of the current culture in order to find that stuff right i mean and that sounds like yours you're going on your personal account you're looking for whatever's happening in the in the zeitgeist right now and then picking some of that
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really successful memes are ones that can, that will happen sort of on the fly too.
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a major, if there's a, let's say, Super Bowl is always a big night for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Something will happen in a half time show.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll start showing thing, and then I'll turn that into something, those usually do really, really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you could do something that's going on in real time, that usually works out to be really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what some of the, like, can you think off the top of your head, some of the most popular posts of all time?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one with 33 million likes, and that was someone starting an IV very, very quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: People love the IV content, and there's someone just through the IV and from across the room, and it was like, that really took off.
[SPEAKER_00]: there was a post with, I actually got to talk to Steve O'Neill, Steve O'Neill from Jackass.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like an MTV thing and they were like, you know, these stunt people, like doing all these crazy stunts.
[SPEAKER_00]: He actually got someone to put a spinal in him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he started, he put a helmet on and then ran as far as he could run before the spinal kicked in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was diabolical, it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I posted that and people loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was totally crazy content.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Steve, I mean, this guy's got like millions of followers.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was so mad.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, why did you put this up there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Take this down immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, it's doing really well and he's like I want it down wherever so I threw my phone number in there I didn't think I ever think of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I threw my phone numbers in the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like call me bro And he literally called me and he was like I'm like why are you so mad dude?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tag you.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want me to do and he's like no, he's like I'm doing a tour and I'm showing all this content that is not been released online And this is one of the things I was gonna show on the tour
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, well, dude, it's got like 20,000 likes on this thing already in a couple hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can we turn into an advertisement or something?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yes, he's like, put this, link the tickets to this for the tour.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I ended up like talking them off the ledge.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was very cool talking to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what did you do this, man?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he was, you know, it was really fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've met a lot of cool people and like a lot of cool things like that have happened for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: That one was really cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the ones about intubating in the ICU.
[SPEAKER_00]: It gets, because I love to get people crazy in the comments.
[SPEAKER_00]: And anesthesia people think, hey, we're the ones that can anticipate where they are, people like no one else matters, that sort of attitude.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I post something like, I don't know, like Rocky Balboa entering the ring or something, it's like anesthesia showing up to intubating the ICU.
[SPEAKER_00]: The intensivists go crazy, the rest of it there was go, like, I love the fighting with the anesthesia people like you guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: We inspire our own people.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need you guys to come and like, I love stuff like that, you know, like, that's stuff so it's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: The intubating in the ICU ones are hilarious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also, I love from that story about Jackass, that one of the things, and I try to tell my own, my kids this, and my residence, everybody is, in general, people give up too quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's an example of a lot of people, when they're told, listen, take that down, that's my copywriter, whatever, take it down, whatever's for like, sorry, okay, it's down.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you said, look, here's what I need to call me, let's talk about it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's such a long shot, but it paid off and it worked, and that's a great example of just rather than give up, you know, try to talk to people, and often things will come that you don't expect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I wanted to know that there was a sort of, there's a whole demographic of anesthesia people that find this fascinating that you're running with a spinal in your back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we think it's crazy who knows what your blood pressure is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows, like, you know, yeah, this huge sympathetic to me or I, you're running around.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was running around like a bullpen with a loose bull to it was wild, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was, I was like, this is doing so well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you want this up there?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've already tagged you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've done everything I can do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I, I mean, I definitely give credit where credit's due.
[SPEAKER_00]: I always tell people DM me if you have anything or, you know, people send me something like, oh my god, that's got my hospital in the background.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I will always take it down immediately for people, but in that case, I was like, this dude's so old, why do you want to take it down?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's kind of use it as a promotional video thing and he went for it, which was really cool and it was cool to get to talk to him, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've talked about some of the kind of themes in your meme, who talked about the nails and the vet medicine and chairs obviously is a big thing of anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_01]: Watches.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of those I want to ask you about.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's this theme
[SPEAKER_01]: And the one that people are always trying to show you a picture of is a blood pressure of 123 over 45 with a map of 67 so that it's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 is that what I have a couple questions about that is anywhere to come from and be you know how is it possible I feel like that it may are people messing around with the numbers or how are they getting it to be exact.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, so I had to look into that because so it's happened to me before.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been like, once you three revives like seven, I was like, okay, how that happened?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you calculate the map of 123 over four of five, it's not going to be six seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I found out that that map is an estimate or, you know, there's more science to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's an estimate pretty much so it sometimes gets this estimate of 67.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I posted it happen to me a couple of times.
[SPEAKER_00]: I posted it once.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been like everyone's mission in life to like to get this blood pressure, but I've also had like people sending me like, you know, chat GPT screenshot saying like, you know, a diastolic of 45 is not good under anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for New Year's I posted once 120 over 80, like this is the new goal guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if we're led to everybody because I'm getting so much crap about the ones who I get crap about everything man.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that even the ones, the nails forgot it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every nail pick I get, every person at DMZ about nails, I get three infection control carons, tell me like this can't happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the blood pressure they're coming from me now, that too.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny, I would not have guessed that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've ever seen a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, but it is pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: How about the license plates?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it, it was that again, just people sending you some kind of anesthesia or medicine related license plates?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, especially in Texas, if you drive into the doctor's parking lot, anywhere that has license plates, I mean, it's at the point, and some of them are really funny because they're just, they're so over the top, but it's at the point now where when I post, so I always take everything else out on the license plate, I don't show their registration, obviously, and something that I try to even hide the state, but they know the colors.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now when I post something like that, I get a message like, hey, that's my license plate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Take that down or, I mean, I literally posted some guys vote to the other day for the name of the vote.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was funny though, something about sedation or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the vote and then he's like, that's my dad's vote.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it C, D, D, D or something?
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I put up a thing like, give me your vote names.
[SPEAKER_00]: People can't like really great vote names.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you posted a ton of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're crazy over the boat name.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: How about footwear in the OR?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have pictures of surgeons in barefoot and flip flops in crocks with their feet hanging out of all kind of cowboy boots like where I get where to that couple.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just, you know, I don't think anesthesia people realize how much we're looking at feet all day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're literally sitting in the operating room with this, you know, drape up, and we're looking at people's legs.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are kicking the shoes off, or people got weird socks on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you put this out there for like 270,000 people, like they find, you know, a lot of people take the shoes off, or they're wearing heels, because they're going out after they're operating, like it just became a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's another thing people just started sending me these things and it's just one of those things that took off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are there others in your mind other kind of themes that you've had over the over the five to six years you've been doing this that stand out is having been a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe something that isn't around anymore, but it once was that you remember being fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was there, you know, people used to send me their anesthesia setup, which that that was kind of basic that really didn't go anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: people were sending me their actual car for a little while or show me their car keys.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's been all kinds of stuff over the years, but a lot, you know, some stuff just doesn't take and then some stuff just go crazy over.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll never know what it is that makes them go, but there is definitely some stuff that just doesn't do well.
[SPEAKER_01]: interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what are your plans moving forward?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is obviously incredibly successful.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to make any changes.
[SPEAKER_01]: People will continue to appreciate you doing exactly what you do, but is that the plan or do you have any future plans that you want to disclose to us?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I always fantasize like someday I'll retire and then take this name and like go do lectures and delete, you know, sold out Madison Square Garden,
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, I prefer me, like, whatever, like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would love to do something with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, you know, it's, it's, it's, like, it's just weird to have this, like, built in audience, what do you do with them now?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I tried to, I kind of dabbled in podcasting a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I made a couple episodes, I mean, they're horrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just me cursing, and like, I had no idea what I was doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was talking about, like, you know, going to Target and someone at the dog, like, I didn't know what I just had no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I posted two episodes and it was like, everyone went to listen to these episodes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was like, it was in the top 10 new podcasts for Apple music in like the first week.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, this is like crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, right, this is like a crap that I put out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're waiting for something and then I give them something and then it explodes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's huge.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know where to go with it all, you know, I know it's gonna go somewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna do something positive with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, review books.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do something cool eventually with it right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just fun to keep growing and that's really the challenges to keep growing beyond anesthesia.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't deviate from anesthesia if I do people flip out, like the followers go crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't post anything but it's got to have some kind of anesthesia tied to it usually.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I would just love to keep growing and you know, do my thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well fabulous, it is really, really fun and great work that you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's turn to the part of the show where we make random recommendations.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have something you'd recommend the audience check out for fun?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so some of the pages, I love, uh, I mentioned Gassie Serena.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great, he's got a great mean page.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do, I like Tiffany Moon.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got good content.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Anna the nurse.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's a OB nurse.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got really good content.
[SPEAKER_00]: Olivia Reeves is probably my favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: She is, uh, she has more followers than me and she has a Serena.
[SPEAKER_00]: But she does like a lot of makeup content.
[SPEAKER_00]: She does really cool stuff, but she's just a super funny human being and Probably one of my probably one of the really good friends that I've made along the years doing this She's the one I go to for advice when I need like content advice.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's very very savvy with it all and doing very successful things with her pages mostly tech talk, but she's great And where you while he's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's there's a bunch of pages that I like about
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the people I follow pretty much, so I mean, I only follow 80 people, so that's the stuff I really like if I follow them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will say if you talked to Tiffany Moon, tell her, I think we were in the same residency program and I think she was two years ahead of me.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I remember her a little bit from then, but she's obviously done a lot of cool stuff since then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I actually got to meet her in person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to her, she sent me her book.
[SPEAKER_00]: She sends me candles and she's always supported the content.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's been a really, from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's been a huge supporter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I surprised her on her book signing in New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, you know, I post the video.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was like, who should I make it out to?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like anesthesia God.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, oh my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, wait, we're both StarStruck or we're each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was, it was a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to recommend a fabulous book that I love.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called an immense world by Ed Young.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is all about
[SPEAKER_01]: how animals sense the world and all their different senses and some of the amazing things that have evolved in nature, like the fact that dolphins and whales can actually use sonar to not only see fish, but if they've already been caught on a line, they can tell where the hook is inside that fish and then they can bite the part of the fish that is not including the hook and pull it right off the hook.
[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty incredible stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Anastasia God, thank you for what you do and I hope you keep doing it and find even more success.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much for coming on the show
[SPEAKER_00]: I was happy to be here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And dude, I have to tell you, people were freaking out that I was coming on this show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know I listened to this show, so I was always like, hey, this is this guy, the way you present things in such a way that it's very easy to wrap your brain around.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was in the L.R.
[SPEAKER_00]: last week, and I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going on the Akraq podcast and the people like, what, like, the students are flipping out and everyone's flipping out.
[SPEAKER_00]: They, like, I didn't realize, I knew I listened to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize it's like the whole world's listening to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think what you're doing is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: and I do love your content as well and I really appreciate you having me on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well thanks so much, it was a pleasure.
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