[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I want to go back to bed.
[SPEAKER_06]: God.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was a horrible idea, John.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's flash banged us with the lights in here It was what happened to you give somebody like a like a new way to control things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, take it way too far.
[SPEAKER_04]: John's gone mad with power look at this Oh, where's all right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Where did our shutter stock logo go?
[SPEAKER_06]: How do we end up with a sauce at thorn?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, do we take this light to the sauce at thorn?
[SPEAKER_04]: The set of stock is up here on the fireplace.
[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to this very special episode of the tape to the podcast.
[SPEAKER_06]: We got a whole list of things to talk about.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's, I think, first things first though.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nigel, you look so clean and healthy.
[SPEAKER_06]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_05]: Do I?
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd feel dirty and not a healthy.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, well, if that's on the inside, whatever you're doing on the outside is working.
[SPEAKER_05]: Really?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you have this, it's like low.
[SPEAKER_06]: A glow, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you pregnant?
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm tested.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's, uh, I think, I think they're my, I think I might know why actually.
[SPEAKER_04]: Any morning sickness?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's, it is morning, the earliest we've ever recorded, say, the third podcast.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not just like a natural sunshine glow on.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they're it and so actually now that you you mentioned it it's because there's a window next to me It looks great.
[SPEAKER_06]: It looks very nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: It actually does it's very clean the lighting's good lighting's good literally Just a window.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think we're not used to sunlight.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I You know why did you wake us up at the crack of dawn to record this podcast
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was originally, I said, 11 year time.
[SPEAKER_05]: We still said, have a 10.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, you got to go, yeah, I did, yeah, yeah, you moved, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's where you're, so you're not at the office right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got your new apartment?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so that's why the room is also echoey.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, you can't see the floor, but it's a mess.
[SPEAKER_06]: Really, what kind of a mess?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like a food mess or like box mess?
[SPEAKER_05]: And though I was just like wires and crap, also I panicked when I was setting up this podcast because I got back and there was like 15 minutes before and I realized I didn't have OBS installed I also had no microphone.
[SPEAKER_05]: The webcam was on the show was working.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is this a new computer?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, is this a new computer that you and.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just a home computer that I guess I, I just don't, I reform I did it like a month ago.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I never installed a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was going to ask if you're rich because you can't buy computers anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're still playing for our graphics cards and I didn't say anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then they came for the ram and I was still silent because I already had a computer that worked and it didn't affect me until I'd like a couple months later when I needed to
[SPEAKER_05]: We, it's kind of like, I mean, I feel like other YouTube people can relate to this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Every time you post a video and you know there's income coming in, that's when you feel if you can actually invest and take a breath.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think it was the liquid nitrogen video.
[SPEAKER_05]: I posted it and I'm like, damn, we can finally do some upgrade.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I went and
[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of the computers that we were using were at least like they were on the five years old my brothers was set in another are for our friend next was eight like they were the computers like I literally built it
[SPEAKER_05]: as just like a personal computer in 2016, one of them.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, so it's, so that's what I say.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I read, I mean, actually my brother and Nick got handy downs, but we rebuilt like the editing computers, and literally like two months after I built them, the RAM prices went up by three times.
[SPEAKER_06]: My, I've never in my life been so attracted to the old shit PC that you have laying around.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like I, I have the two computers here that are you started looking at them like, What you got in there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like if like you're in prison, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: In all of a sudden, the like the dating pool has gone down to basically nothing, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like you start looking at things in a way that you normally never would have looked at before.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to get more or less.
[SPEAKER_06]: A specific map, but these computers that are just sitting that are probably 10 years old that have, you know, like 16 or 32 gigs of RAM and like they're still they're high in computers from the time, but like not anymore are like starting to look like a viable.
[SPEAKER_06]: I could use that for a project or like why shouldn't I, because you know what's that computer would cost right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like probably two grand.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like actually.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: What was like the RAM in general, I told my brother is if the RAM prices have gone up I would not have even made the computers because I was like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna go crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna put 128 gigs a RAM of DDR file.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're the reason why RAM is so expensive right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: You bought it all.
[SPEAKER_06]: You bought one sick of RAM anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Guess how much in Canadian, 128 gigs of DDR file was?
[SPEAKER_04]: Over a thousand no 12 hundred no for me how much I pay how long ago I was gonna say 12 hundred Canadian I didn't like whenever I posted the video maybe like October.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know when it was oh When you bought it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh 600 Canadian
[SPEAKER_02]: on the news.
[SPEAKER_04]: On 28.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have one.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like 400 American.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not even.
[SPEAKER_06]: Of every 24.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, year and a half ago, I bought 128 gigs of ram for Sarah, vengeance, DDR4.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it cost me $240.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, that I think is at least $1,000 or no way we can click on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's see if it's still so like my graph is 480 Canadian.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is like $800.
[SPEAKER_06]: Here's this 480 Canadian.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so like three something on the US.
[SPEAKER_04]: DDR5 or 1100 or 128.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can't even get DDR5.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, DDR, a five, 120, this is like $1,400 for some of the things you bring up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, in Canadian, what I paid for is right now on eBay for $14 or $1500.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you got them nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, now I'm out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You see a Canadian website is selling it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a laptop memory.
[SPEAKER_06]: But think of it like this, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you don't need to buy ramp.
[SPEAKER_06]: All you need to do is pay a couple of dollars a month or like 14 different services that will do your creative work for you on their server.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So really, we're just outsourcing our ramp.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the data set.
[SPEAKER_06]: Instead of having to pay for our ramp upfront for a couple hundred dollars, over our life we can spend tens of thousands of dollars pay for other companies that they can do our work for us.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know, like the the best part about RAM is when it's not instant, yes, you know, there's a latency if you're a question why I like to use film when taking that's my favorite part about high speed memory right it like makes you value the time you spend on the computer because everything you would like it to do takes a lot of time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you really feel like your money's worked.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, imagine it feels like there's a lot going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: All the tools you use on a daily basis, they don't get all if you're in a net goes out, which is like the bottleneck to your entire, you know, paycheck that you need to pay for rent and stuff like that, like the future really is starting to look bright.
[SPEAKER_04]: first they came for my graphics cards and I didn't say anything and then the clankers started drinking our water and I didn't say anything and then they came for the ram I know and there was no one left to speak the clankers are stealing our ram and I think we should we need to uprise I think so too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Kill them, kill them all, rip their ram out of their spine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why can't they just make more of them?
[SPEAKER_04]: Where's the ram?
[SPEAKER_04]: Where is the ram?
[SPEAKER_04]: He has stopped us all.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: If we just go into the data center, so we'll rip it out.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a carried man, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what?
[SPEAKER_04]: What does it?
[SPEAKER_04]: What dry ass desert?
[SPEAKER_04]: Give me some names here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to know some names.
[SPEAKER_04]: Of a state, to what state?
[SPEAKER_04]: What small level?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I want an address.
[SPEAKER_04]: What address?
[SPEAKER_06]: For the data center?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you should ask those questions.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet you can't.
[SPEAKER_06]: I bet you can't miss it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I bet you it's the biggest bucket building you've ever seen in your life.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's like security at those.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that harm security.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I guarantee it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because they know we're going to steal their RAM.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, all I'm waiting for, well, I've said this before, but with my friends, but I actually think it's gonna be very disappointing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm waiting for the day when the AI bubble bursts and all of those cards get flooded onto the market because there's eight-quatch really in cards, but then it really is that they're not actually graphics cards, they're just like rendering cards.
[SPEAKER_06]: How did, how did it?
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was gonna happen with crypto.
[SPEAKER_06]: It kind of did.
[SPEAKER_06]: How did like, you know, okay, crypto is cigarettes.
[SPEAKER_06]: and AI is vaping like you got oh cigarettes are like not cool anymore you're like okay cool we're done with cigarettes and then vaping swoops in and like picks all those people up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's entirely different because with crypto you're still profitable.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you have all of them.
[SPEAKER_06]: No I mean like consuming like consuming all the the of the if you resources right like because grat GPUs were like apparently has to find because
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but now they've mostly moved on to A6 and special team miners.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but like I thought there would be a collapse, but then all the other crypto currency is might still use graphics cards.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so it's like we never got the collapse as crypto was probably moving away from graph.
[SPEAKER_06]: Then yeah, I picked up, so we never got our bubble pop.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that, yeah, I think Nigel's right, like once AI starts moving on, like they're just going to completely abandon the old generation cards and grab new cards.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't like stay competitive with old cards in AI.
[SPEAKER_06]: But then where are the old cards go?
[SPEAKER_06]: Where is the market?
[SPEAKER_06]: Where is like the aftermath of it now?
[SPEAKER_06]: Probably just back to the crypto people who are like, is that trickled down?
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they're going to buy all of them.
[SPEAKER_06]: Raffin' on trickled down, Raffin' on monster.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like the way that the AI stuff's going to in, do you think open AI already, these mega companies, these massive data centers, if they decide to upgrade or change other cards, do they're going to
[SPEAKER_06]: new building, new building more than I genuinely think this is actually a very interesting person.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think that's a great question, Nigel, and I think there's somebody out there that could answer it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, for example, when you store files on Google Drive or drop up, where are those?
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, the cloud, where is the cloud?
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, like, you know, like the idea of like technical debt, like this is a huge problem with, with, you know, software platforms when they grow.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think like Twitter had this problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it like vine.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think a lot of these companies had this problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, it's, it's you and me.
[SPEAKER_06]: We kind of know a little bit of software.
[SPEAKER_06]: We do a thing and then all of a sudden it blows up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or like, you know, millions or tens of millions of users.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we're sitting there looking at this like piece of shit software that we wrote and we're like, oh no, oh no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so they never, they never like it was never built to handle that.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was built for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: He said like how bad Facebook is.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's like a cancer, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like and so you end up with this this whole platform that was like never designed to be good.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just made and then you have to start bandating it later.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think like storing files is a good example.
[SPEAKER_06]: You build this enormous piece of infrastructure.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're storing information, but you can't ever turn it off.
[SPEAKER_06]: ever.
[SPEAKER_06]: So if you invest money to like build a new one, you have to then have the new one take over the old one and then you take the old one down to then upgrade it up to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to have like a raid array of data centers.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I could you know, yeah, they maybe would like they would like go through it upgrading it all at once.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or sorry, like a slowly right where you like upgrade like one rack at a time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I also could see it genuinely being cheaper to just make
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then building a new data center.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then the old ones just keep going.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, what's cheaper?
[SPEAKER_06]: Living in a house that's like kind of not great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or fixing the whole thing all the way.
[SPEAKER_06]: The whole thing all at once.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like you have to move out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You see what I'm saying where it's like it just I think there's enough money in it where they just leave it forever That's my guess, but it's probably somebody that has a bit more experience with this I could tell us like maybe they slowly upgrade it Maybe they leave it forever Maybe they you know the all the other thing they'll ever decommission in until it's like to completely fuck
[SPEAKER_04]: If it is like, you know, they just replace some modules in the rack, then they could like, you know, take the two racks next to it and condense it down to one rack.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: In a way of like all the data will now fit in one more drive.
[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe that's how you could go through it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like a constant migration of yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm in one single to the end of this like center.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have to go all the way back around and just start again with the new generation of stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: like how does how do videos get delivered to people right like how does it like when you post a video on YouTube like when it when it's at its peak you can be having like you know I'm out on Nigel like maybe a hundred thousand views an hour what's your peak maybe some of the fifth yeah sure
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, let's say like, peak a hundred, imagine trying to deliver a hundred thousand.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I'm pretty sure that YouTube treats like a video from one of us way differently than a video that a person that nobody subscribed to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're, you have to definitely have your video stored multiple places all over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I upload it YouTube and YouTube's like distributed to all of the, like, yes, the servers around the country.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no way it's one file.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no way it's one file right like it literally has to get like I bet you the amount of processing that has to happen to deliver a video when you post it is insane.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah versus one like a smaller channel it can just live on one server because it's not going to be distributed to a a million people at once.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how any of this works but all I know is there's no way
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, and there's probably like multiple copies of the video and stuff like that too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like how does that happen?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, how does it like do I think it's like, I mean, graph.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like that's, I mean, my dollars is very limited.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I know a lot of the backup that I do is through backblades as like cloud storage.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you compare the price between backblades and like Google or even Amazon, the price is way lower and when I quickly looked it up because, you know, you're wondering, okay, if it's so much lower than is this like something we
[SPEAKER_05]: Whereas Amazon, Google, Microsoft, is exactly what you said.
[SPEAKER_05]: You upload one file and they're like, oh, we put it on the East Coast server, the West Coast server.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have a South American server, European server and Asian server.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they just, it goes everywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: So then you're kind of, yeah, it's like you upload one file, but then there's like 15 copies in the world, which also means that a media or hits Eastern US,
[SPEAKER_05]: You still got your file in Asia that you can pull.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where's if a media or hits the backblaze headquarters, you just lose everything?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, this is a huge, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, doesn't Google store data on physical tapes?
[SPEAKER_06]: These I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I wonder what they use like what data is that like our Google drive is on tapes?
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe he's like deep storage.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but what is deep storage?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like stuff that is not hasn't been accessed for a decade.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it denser?
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: But why maybe it's like easier to store it?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's dead.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or a deep storage.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think the
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think it's cheap and it lasts because I know that like flashes trash for like long term storage and they card drives are pretty good, but they might have some issues.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know I think it's just cheap and good and doesn't deteriorate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Google uses tape storage.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's called LTO technology for cost effective high secure cold storage and critical backups.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like they do backups in case of like data center or failings or cyber attacks.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Google restored Gmail after a 2011 bug using the tape.
[SPEAKER_06]: Ah, backup tape.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is for their system.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's not necessarily.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like they're, they're raid, raid 100.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, or it's like, Yeah, and it's all robotic too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like pull the tapes, read them all that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like you kind of make sense because you know, we're running, we're running stuff making files.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we go, we want to back it up to the cloud.
[SPEAKER_05]: going to back it up to the Amazon cloud, but that doesn't make any sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if they're going to back up, for example, like Gmail, it kind of makes, I mean, as soon as what they do, they just have, they take a snapshot every so often of, you know, the state of things.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then if things explode, they can, you know,
[SPEAKER_05]: But it back because I don't see you're going to give that your data to I think compared to competing company Like a very Kind of have to be proud.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're backing them up.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're backing us up.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're backing them up.
[SPEAKER_06]: You just keep But the already new companies using the same infrastructure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we just use we use Google Drive But Google doesn't know that and so they are storing their stuff with you, but you're just using that Isn't that how this whole AI thing is working anyways?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like one big kind of speed
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you were talking about your paranoid about dropping it because you're cat and then and then I was like, Oh, wow, that's a very interesting for you to say because I brought up this memory that lives on my head every time I take any of my articles, I wouldn't say shame, I would just say my dumb ass cat, so you know when you like you're holding something and you drop it and it disappears.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I couldn't find it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're like, how far could it have possibly gotten?
[SPEAKER_04]: And it like you start with a small ear, right by your feet, then you're like, okay, whoa, yeah, okay, which craft.
[SPEAKER_06]: Where to go?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, actually, where to go?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: The only trick I have is, I mean, obviously other than listening to it, which is off of you in the garage and you have headphones that you drop a screw, you don't have, like, literally the one clue of just your ears figuring out what direction it was.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's to take my phone turn the flashlight on and put it all against the ground.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's like you can cast, you can try to cast shadows off the ground if you're like a noisy floor.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyways, I have no idea where they are all went and I took another one and then later that day, my cat is acting very
[SPEAKER_04]: You're cat-cut every rat in a square mile radius.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it works the same with cats.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I don't know how it works.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: All I know is he was not acting strange in like a murdering rat in a mile radius.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was more just like very lethargic and kind of like, Oh.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I find the pill chewed up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't we didn't like get into the I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't really into the pill.
[SPEAKER_06]: You think maybe it just got a few Maybe a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because you you take the extended release.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the pill filled with a bunch of balls in it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, so got some balls out.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if my cat had any balls in its mouth.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay
[SPEAKER_06]: But I do know that he chewed on it and I do know that he was acting weird and I think that it could have been causation or correlation.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know which, which where we were, but I think maybe maybe like maybe Adderall doesn't do good things for cats.
[SPEAKER_06]: That would probably kill your cat.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what that's kind of the vibe I had at the time.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so it
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it deadly?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the dose would be like you taking 12 pills at once.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably more.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably like 24 pills at once.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I. Yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so that was that was a do not do not drop your hat or all moment for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: I also thinkfully cats are so picky that that like chance of them actually eating the pills super low.
[SPEAKER_06]: infuriating have you ever had to give a cat medicine even your dogs medicine?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they do everything they can to spit the pillow And then this asshole voluntarily eating one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you couldn't do it if you tried.
[SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't do it if you tried The incident falls on the ground and disappears.
[SPEAKER_06]: He finds it and starts chewing on it So I don't know maybe he chewed on it and like enough of it dissolved that it started negatively affecting him Is there is there a dosage of matter all you could give a cat?
[SPEAKER_06]: that wouldn't, that would have the same effect.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: You think so?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because like, maybe like, he didn't eat the pill.
[SPEAKER_06]: So like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyways, that's my drug story with my friend.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet you could give a cat one milligrams of outer all.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think they would do?
[SPEAKER_06]: Do they, someone's definitely done this?
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it signed this out, signed just to make our medicine?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do rats do on outer all?
[SPEAKER_06]: Just, they break out of the maze.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that enough?
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he was just like heart rate increase and he's just like freaking out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't think they have like the same reward mechanism that we do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe it's as much as I believe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or they're like not conscious to understand what's going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they just like they get all the side effects.
[SPEAKER_04]: will be like, yeah, or it affects their, um, you know, there's like part of their half of outer all affects your like sympathetic nervous system in half, affects your like central nervous system.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's why you get like that kind of jittery feeling your heart rate goes up.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's affecting like half affects your body half affects your brain.
[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe it's, it's, your cat doesn't have a very big brain.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all body.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you just felt maybe like,
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe like that was just high in a bad way.
[SPEAKER_04]: In a bad way.
[SPEAKER_06]: Great Jimbo.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't he pills you find on the ground?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the moral of this story.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nigel has your cat ever eaten a pill?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or lab.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it's been a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Never let him go around the lab.
[SPEAKER_05]: You definitely lick everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, be bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He would mess up the lab.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love he's been at the office, but he wasn't allowed in the workshop or the lab area.
[SPEAKER_04]: One time, I went out to dinner with Sandra or something and we left a bottle.
[SPEAKER_04]: She left a bottle of ibuprofen on the counter.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the dogs jumped up on the counter, knocked it off.
[SPEAKER_04]: The bottle hit the ground and opened up and we get home and we're like, there's a bunch of pills on the floor.
[SPEAKER_04]: We
[SPEAKER_04]: And they were trying to get like the goldfish that were further back on the counter.
[SPEAKER_04]: They couldn't get them.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they were like jumping up.
[SPEAKER_04]: They knocked the pills over and we don't know how many they They definitely So I look it up and apparently ibuprofen is like deadly for dogs.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like it's like a two pill kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're like oh great.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like we have no idea how many they ate if they ate some
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think there was also goldfish on the floor too, so it's like, they were, oh, they did get the goldfish.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like, great.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have to go to a vet or something like that, but they were all closed because it was late.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we call in emergency vet and we're like, what do we do?
[SPEAKER_04]: And they said, you have to get your dog to throw up.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're like, okay, how do we do that?
[SPEAKER_04]: And they said, of hydrogen peroxide, you have to feed your dog like, you know, a few ounces or like shots of hydrogen peroxide.
[SPEAKER_04]: And let me tell you, they do not like hydrogen peroxide.
[SPEAKER_06]: Did you do it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we couldn't get them to sweat like we're like trying to like I put it in a water bottle and we were like squirting it in their mouth like the 3% stuff and they were just like Just spitting out the peroxide their mouths were foamy they looked like rabbit little goblins but the veggies told you to do some shit that's basically impossible.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so what we ended up doing was we soaked a bunch of goldfish and hydrogen peroxide and the dogs just went and ate it all, ate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the goldfish and then they threw up like 10 minutes later.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Did you dig through the throat for pills?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we had to.
[SPEAKER_04]: And guess what?
[SPEAKER_06]: None.
[SPEAKER_04]: None.
[SPEAKER_05]: No pills.
[SPEAKER_05]: poisoning their glorious fishies with peroxide.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did that make them second.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, they're love for fishies.
[SPEAKER_04]: They still love gold fish.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like their favorite tree.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can hear me opening their eyes if they're dead.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no association.
[SPEAKER_06]: I genuinely think that you are happier if you are dumber.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the Kevin's dogs are like a big part of that thought process for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the less that you can think about things, the more excited you just get about, like everything's a surprise.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You get to look forward to stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're not worried about the consequences because you don't, you don't actually know how to correlate the consequences.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the best, I mean, the only example I've lived with that is just being a kid.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because you know, there's a point in your life as a kid.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're not even sure what dying is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, bills don't really make any sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everything always gets better, looking out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like you're describing the dog.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's kind of the state, they always live in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Especially if you have good parents, you don't realize it's like a warrior fighting for your existence, your whole life.
[SPEAKER_06]: You just have this shielding for any of you.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's what's traumatizing when you have to go into the real world and you realize that you've been protected this whole time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, it's definitely, every time I read any sort of story or went on and read it, I was like, people's traumatic
[SPEAKER_06]: Hmm, I don't know how somebody could do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I did it, I mean, this is just like a, it is kind of interesting because it's like, I don't know why I just thought about this, it's like, if you experience basically you experience life too young, you get trauma, no, you get hard, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_05]: enough that when they're real world hits, you don't just crack in fall apart.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you have it, your brain is developed enough to like persevere through the real world.
[SPEAKER_05]: The real world comes to early.
[SPEAKER_06]: like it's it is a I don't know how to describe this other than there's like a plethora of things happening like one if you don't feel like you have to worry about the little things you can think about the bigger thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like your ambitions can be bigger like if you're worried about paying bills and you're like Oh, I have to get a job to help my parents pay for our rent.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're not thinking about you know doing any like maybe extra curricular or or thinking bigger about the future.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like I need to get a job now Yeah
[SPEAKER_06]: This is Chelsea.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think kind of grew up a little bit like this.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you don't have to worry about those things, you can be more interested in stuff at school or more interested next to Chris.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like the hierarchy of needs.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so if your needs become, you know, you're immediate survival, you're going to think about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then during your childhood, instead of, you know, like having bigger dreams or ambitions, you're going to be focused focusing your time on just the survival part of you.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I think that it's very important to provide some semblance of a safety net so that people grow up thinking about the bigger picture of what they could do in their life or what their ambitions are.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not just about the immediate, I must survive.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's probably the biggest gift you could give your kids is them not having to focus on the ground and let them look up at the sky.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, total.
[SPEAKER_06]: That makes any sense.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I think that would.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I think it does, because it's like a huge amount of, I mean, what I even do today is, because I have time as a kid to be like, you my goal this weekend is to like cut open fireworks and make a really cool whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to build a ramp so I can jump I bike off of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and like that is what kind of a, yeah, completely turned me into the person I am today.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whereas, yeah, if, you know, at age 14, I had to get a job because my parents were struggling and it's just like,
[SPEAKER_06]: But I feel like having to get a job is not even as bad as this fear that you have to get a job.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you literally have to contribute.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like so much work.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like the weight is on you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like it's almost, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like that pressure of like, oh my God, like I need to contribute to this household, like make sure that we, you know, like, like I don't know, there's something, there's something I think traumatic about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But Nigel that's so funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: My dad also showed me how to cut open fireworks like you know the round mortars and like pour out all the powder beads.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, my dad my dad didn't show me but I discovered it on my own that you could like
[SPEAKER_05]: What I, I didn't get the massive ones, but they, and I figured out the ones that were the most powerful, but like, you don't cherry bomb type ones.
[SPEAKER_05]: It launches the firecrack.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys are lucky.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so it's just filled with like, there's no stars in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's only, it's only flash.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing, no pretty stars that fly out, no sparks, just like a grenade that shoots into the air.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you realize, because in Canada, firecrack is illegal, but I was like, I can just cut open this thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: and just take the fire cracker out and then it would take the original fuse from the thing onto it and then you just blow stuff up.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think I found one of them that was the most powerful but it did start to scare me because I'm like, yeah, these are the things that you hold, then it'll blow your fingers off.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a parent's job not to tell the kid not to play with fireworks, but to show them the idea of the property.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, like, let's sit down.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to watch spaghetti hands together and then you can make your own decisions.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like,
[SPEAKER_05]: funny is that that never happened to me.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I was browsing the internet and spaghetti hands you know presented itself.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that was one of the last days that played the fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think that's all I was already worried and then when I saw that and I was like that is what would happen
[SPEAKER_05]: Too far I was always safe so I'll say the one thing that my dad did because we grew up with baby guns and my dad had little firecrackers, he didn't steal like the two things he was like, if you don't wear safety boggles with
[SPEAKER_05]: almost like with most things, he's like, you're stupid and he's like, you will lose you something will happen in your stupid and he goes and never throw firecrackers or fireworks because he's like, you, he's like, you'll blow your fingers off or have like some damage.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think because when he was a kid, he had new people who lost eyes or had hand damage.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he's still that so heavily in us that we never threw those big firecrackers.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I just be idea that if I screwed up, I could become like spaghetti hands.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Completely stopped me from playing with them.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, what I would do, if my child is ever into fireworks or doing it, we will watch spaghetti hands and I will be like, you know, if your life, you can make your decisions and I just want you to know that if you do ever blow your hands up, I will always be there to wipe your ass for you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that, if either of my parents had said it something like that to me, I think that I would have never touched fireworks.
[SPEAKER_06]: The fear, the fear of being like, you know,
[SPEAKER_06]: like, it's not the hands, it's the idea of like having to rely on it and it's like, you're half of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, ah, oh, I should find, I could send you the video.
[SPEAKER_05]: If I can should be able to find it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, what also scared me was these firecrackers, I just, I started thinking, like I said, I think it was acting to spaghetti hands.
[SPEAKER_05]: I started thinking, hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: What would this do if I held on to it?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm only just probably steam it do the things that we blow up.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm assuming it could be bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I just had to run into experiment.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is one of the first recorded Nile Red experiments.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is the hot dog gloves?
[SPEAKER_05]: That was earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was, we spot chicken.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of the same thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think I told you about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: We bought some chicken cutlets.
[SPEAKER_05]: I, I think it was or yeah, we wrapped it around the firecracker and then I connected to a a lab stand.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when I went off, it just sprayed the fence with chicken and I was like, I, I, I, I've seen it off here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just chicken paste on the, on the fence that I'm just like, optimized it, just vaporized the poor chicken.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like we had that experience far too late in life with the here three.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, but he still had it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, that was, every time I think, every time I had this conversation, that's like, all I could think about was like, man, I could straight up just not have like half my face.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, that could have been me.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, that's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're like, oh, yeah, sorry, Pete.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, it's like totally fine too.
[SPEAKER_04]: He just projected on to yourself, like, that could have been me.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was me.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like that's so bad for you, Peter, but what's worse is that could have been me.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that everybody deserves to be able to almost blow their face off.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when I was a kid in Indiana at my grandparents house, we had we could buy any firework.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was like, they would just sell us the boot like fireworks like straight up at the fireworks store.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here, take some of these kids and he just gives us a handful of like real MADs.
[SPEAKER_04]: that so we're in her backyard throwing like M80s into this dried up lake this time of years like dry and it's the muckiest mud.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's that ooey gooey.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's floppy topey mud on the bottom of the lake.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it just like blows this huge crater in the mud and it's like
[SPEAKER_04]: The lobs of my job is like slapping down on the ground, and it's just like the crater holds its shape.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we were throwing them.
[SPEAKER_06]: I never had any leg.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but we knew what they would do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: We could blow like a friggin' 12 inch diameter crater.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to blow a hole in your hand, too.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, now do we have something to show you?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, is it related to one?
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just very excited to show you this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Somebody clipped.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we'll just show you it's it's uh, I would say it's a now red TikTok there's trap.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about the now red TikTok there's trap?
[SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever figured out why you get so many of these?
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you think about this at all?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think about it all the time and I have I literally don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how are you making them I'm not making them do you have come across them organically on your own like you're scrolling and you're like all you see on your paid all your for you know no, okay, I've only been I've only been set up against my will.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to get against your will is this one this one this one I this might be my favorite one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't you know John to the link.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's in the, uh, this, I, I've watched this probably a dozen times now, yeah, and it doesn't get old, it is, it is, it's so it starts here in the podcast, I literally don't know you somehow instigated it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I instigated it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I genuinely, this is the funniest thing that I think has ever come out of this podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is this John?
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, got it?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, Jim, he's trying to suck you dry.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, look, look.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wave it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got thanks, Jim.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good question.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't look like swabs.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good question.
[SPEAKER_04]: It makes us seem like, yeah, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or pause before we get copyrighted, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But really, he's just trying to, like, totally deflecting that question.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you have nothing to have, you know, it's horrible.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's great, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: I like makes these needs help.
[SPEAKER_04]: Click on the profile.
[SPEAKER_04]: What else do they have?
[SPEAKER_04]: Help making more.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like, oh, that's a good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, anyways, I've definitely watched that a lot and I'm gonna keep watching it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so it's Nigel literally just falls up.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like the classic how The flex from a question because he doesn't want to answer it and make him just even get a much more Yeah, what do you get up deflecting just cool
[SPEAKER_05]: You're like, had it was like prepared like, perfect response to such an awful response to that just, yeah, super prepared and always on my toes.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I wanted to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, I want to see the rest of their TikTok though.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you want to click through it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to, is there anything else on there, Dawn?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think maybe they made a fan cam with me?
[SPEAKER_06]: Or you, nobody makes fun cam.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't, it's only Nigel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's so, who's trying to suck you off right now, Will?
[SPEAKER_06]: Ah shit, uh, nobody.
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_06]: Be did that come across school?
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_05]: You guys, you're okay, you got to act toy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, what else do we got?
[SPEAKER_05]: So someone asked you that, Will, you have to answer it.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you did, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got to have a, you got to have a vague answer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nobody.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wait, there's two.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God, one of them, another Nigel one.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's two Nigel fancams.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's the one, how many views does the, the, the one have, go down a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: 70 thousand, okay, what's the one, the other one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's a suit.
[SPEAKER_06]: There was, there was one, I remember the last time we watched it, where it was just like some girl like
[SPEAKER_06]: And she was just like, oh, I think I did remember that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was so degenerate.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was so, it was like, I cannot believe somebody filmed this and posted it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that one was like, me?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it was a bold.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was what?
[SPEAKER_06]: A bold.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how you do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you could write a book to explain how you do that, you would make you solve it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or say it was the bold.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, fortunate.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then the book fortune favors the bold.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I told you my first tip.
[SPEAKER_05]: You have stacked clay.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the opposite of bold.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bold.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the opposite of bold.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes things are paradoxically.
[SPEAKER_06]: How do you feel about an anime figurine?
[SPEAKER_06]: We make anime figurines of us.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know that now.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're using his sales to subsidize our ours.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a three pack you have to buy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know strong feelings.
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you want to be a sexy man or a sexy girl?
[SPEAKER_06]: Feminize sexy man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Would you want to be like, you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the white food pill, like a white food version of yourself.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll do it ourselves the best.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like lab made Nigel or
[SPEAKER_04]: off.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like I feel made.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or you know like how they they always have like the dude all the anime is where it's like set in Victorian times and like you have the guy like you know Joe Joe how they're dressed like that something like that but with ripping off weight.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nigel Joe would be good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you what?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, not see what.
[SPEAKER_04]: Joe Taros.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Joe Star.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I, I know that like manufacturing stuff like that, you end, the whole thing would basically be for fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you would, it would, it would be, it would literally not make any money because it costs so much money to make those and you have to sell a ton of them.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, it would, it would like, it would only do it literally just for fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if we could do a collab with like hollow live?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they, so we like Nigel in a war girl, um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, you're in half the elaborate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and that's like the only one I know, or like, did the mouse one?
[SPEAKER_06]: Or Goro?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she's the shark one.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're porting New York.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then there's a, what's the, the tip mouse or the, um, the mouse?
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's the mouse one?
[SPEAKER_04]: Anything about what is can you explain how I was how do you not okay hollow life, but it's the v tuber collective yeah and they have a bunch of v tubers.
[SPEAKER_04]: In the hollow verse okay which is hollow live and I don't know I think most of them are like actually Japanese there's some American ones.
[SPEAKER_04]: here.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know, they just stream, you know, that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes they make music.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they play games.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just like it's just the two were personas.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, what's different between that and just.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they do collapse with each other.
[SPEAKER_04]: It sounds just like you too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, how low life is like this huge huge studio.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like, these are like, like, they're like idol level, the two birds.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not just like you're one of the
[SPEAKER_06]: do they allow white American men?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the criteria?
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to sound, yeah, sound sexy.
[SPEAKER_01]: How does that?
[SPEAKER_01]: How is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: How is the judge?
[SPEAKER_04]: I have no, uh, the guy, the V2 word.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: He has a name.
[SPEAKER_04]: They mentioned that.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're saying Nigel has a chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nigel could definitely be on a V2 restroom.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying it's like a game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why couldn't you be on the stream?
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't think we have that appeal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could probably do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Will your character be?
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it like human?
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it like animal theme?
[SPEAKER_06]: Do they do the animal theme thing?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think actually it probably would only work if you streamed to you know So like you like but then you go on to their channel or do something and then you're a V2 or avatar too And they're just too funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's dudes I don't know on that hollovers.
[SPEAKER_06]: How do you it's on read it all the time and I had to like download an extension block it Yeah, I just grow past it and I don't ask any questions.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just I know it exists
[SPEAKER_04]: There's so I have like, oh man, I've blocked like half over like 40 subreddits from hearing out the front page.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hell no, I'm blocking everything until that just comes up naturally.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, okay, so you had some stuff you wanted, you wrote on the slide board last time that I'm curious about.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's been here for a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, what, what have you never got?
[SPEAKER_04]: Big ass fans.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like, and I just have I talked about, um, my dream fan, how every fan that they sell is weak and pathetic.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I want to make like a brick and turbo fan doing fan?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, like a desk fan, or the slightly
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, just to like, bolt that to your desk because everything you buy like, okay, so say like an eight inch desk fan that you would put on your computer desk or something like that, yeah, it, it sucks yeah doesn't blow no you want
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you like, how do you live?
[SPEAKER_04]: If you let it get them, no, but, you know, if you want a fan to move air around a room, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you like, can't really do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: You need a big fan to do it, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because they make the fans like scale their power with how big they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you want, you know, so I don't want to have to have a 18 or 24 inch fan in the room to move some air around.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just make a 12 inch fan spin faster.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you can't buy, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody sells that.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you look at the back of a computer, you're like, what the hell?
[SPEAKER_04]: You're probably trying to sell it.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like, why do you all alive getting far too sweaty?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I just want a small fan that has a lot of power for cooling yourself down or moving the air in your room, coming up dust.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're gonna like everybody agrees with me fans aren't that powerful You know you turn it to three and you're like, wow, I wish it had a four or a five for but like what like to just have more air To be colder.
[SPEAKER_04]: How why why's fan speed such a no I'm trying to get to the bottom of the problem is it like
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there isn't a problem on it's more of just like I want my family faster.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and fans if you look at the wattage rating It's really weak.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like why don't they just make bigger fans?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I Wait, what are you saying I do?
[SPEAKER_05]: I was going to say that I think we're in a situation where we'll just doesn't get it, Kevin, don't you get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, you don't you to explain like you just you just have to say fancy to be stronger and get some people who will you know who fight for that and will no matter what you explain to him.
[SPEAKER_04]: He will ask you questions.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think this started when I was in Florida, and I had this double-sided garage, so you could drive through the whole garage.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would open both garage doors, but there would never be a breeze.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like, I would get a few of those box fans, and I would set them up on one side to try to create this like draft through the garage, but they just weren't powerful enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like, you know, if you go to Home Depot, you get like the whatever size fan, they're pretty much always like a box fan.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're always like the same wattage.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, then if you get the slightly bigger box fan, that's like, you know, $50, that might be a 30 or 40 watt fan versus a 20 watt fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, you have to have like three or four big fans to move any air.
[SPEAKER_06]: You want to create like a wind tunnel.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I was I was saying if you just had one really powerful fan that was a size of a box fan right it would move a lot of air and then you would only need one fan.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why don't they do that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know because they only use the really the cheap OAC induction motors that are like very linearly scaled to how big they are to how much power they can put out.
[SPEAKER_06]: You want like a like a I want a brushless motor.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want you have to put sandbags down you'll have to put sandbags down on this fan It's flying away Those they would kill the people that bought it.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you would just put like you know a support give it like the triangle stand You gotta put the big burning fingers do not stand in the intake zone of the fan or you get fucking That would be so cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: You could just buy an old shitty airplane and take it's jet engine off That would be so cool, but I can't why not?
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody sells one not that I know about
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but what if I don't want a guy from care to see R.C.
[SPEAKER_06]: Jet.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, then you put you do the Ventura thing and you put it like 50 feet in front of the garage.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, it's the air moving, but the air from the exhaust is not going in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying, I want to sell huge ass fans with enormous liability waivers.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: The only thing bigger than our fan is the contract you have to assign that dismisses us of all liability when you get fucking sucked into it because it's 12,000 horsepower you know like No, you don't because you don't get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not trying to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's some YouTube videos that I would like to watch.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't get it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just don't get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe John can find a video of like a of a 3000 or 5,000 watt fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's lower motor startup.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just the noise that it makes.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is worth the money of whatever it cost.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: But don't don't think about it too much.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, how much money you're willing to spend on a family for?
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I would, I would, I would.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I, you, I think you could sell it for 50.
[SPEAKER_04]: No way.
[SPEAKER_04]: 75, 100.
[SPEAKER_04]: How many horsepower are we want?
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just like a 200 watt fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the size of like, like, of us, I don't know, 15 inches.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be loud, maybe 300.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the watt, the wattage of the fan that I have in the garage, the exhaust fan, that's 300.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's kind of loud.
[SPEAKER_04]: It cost 250 dollars.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no reason that does not move a lot of 200 dollars.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's like a shitty, like, a each back one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no way you can sell a big fan for $50.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you can.
[SPEAKER_04]: Could maybe many people just make you think fans are more complicated than they are.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, it's the, it's the supply chain in the logistics.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and there's tons of brushless motors and airplane propellers that you could sell.
[SPEAKER_06]: You could sell kits.
[SPEAKER_06]: That would probably help with the liability problem when people get stuck in there.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you just put a metal cage on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if someone's got you already know not to stick your finger inside of a fan?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do I?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, no, that's why they put cages on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And how much is a cage cut?
[SPEAKER_04]: $50.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's already more of that right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what?
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's injection molded.
[SPEAKER_04]: It costs $1.
[SPEAKER_04]: Blacksick?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or even the metal ones.
[SPEAKER_04]: Guys are high.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just get a box fan and be happy with a little bit of Eric gives you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to get a box fan and put a 10,000 watt motor on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the fucking blades are going to rip off.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're seeing like a CD spinning too fast.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is the problem is you got to make it spin faster.
[SPEAKER_06]: When you make it spin faster, the blades are designed to spin slower.
[SPEAKER_06]: So when your blades are going to be shit, they're not going to work great and they're going to flex and flop.
[SPEAKER_04]: What about you Nigel?
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you want a really powerful?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you agree that fans could be more powerful?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that it is aggravating that fans aren't more powerful, but I don't think that the position of the fan is the desk.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like 30 degrees where you live, you're round, Fahrenheit.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I'm not saying like, what do you need a fan for?
[SPEAKER_06]: He thinks up.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what I'm saying is that what is hard to find is a good, it like, fang.
[SPEAKER_05]: You go to the store and you buy a fan, because you're like, oh, I'm gonna be, I don't know, uh, but to make some smoke.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to blow this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, away.
[SPEAKER_06]: The bond you have a band will work for that.
[SPEAKER_06]: the $10 for each.
[SPEAKER_05]: I found one that that is pretty big and it's like a, it has a, if you turned it on its face and you turned it on, it has a cage ram it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It kind of feels like it's achieving some left and that's the one I use for for everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: You hear it sounds like a propeller when it's got how busy it is that crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: in diameter or radius.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, radius.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's like a. Oh, I know it, but why plant or like a need.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's probably two, two and a half feet as a diameter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's kind of the bad thing is if you want a more powerful fan, they just make the whole fan bigger instead of making it spin faster and making the, you know, motor more power.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have a full dynamic theory here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's the one thing I, before you say it, I want to say one of my the greatest things that ever bought is one of those little.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was a replaced little compressed air can.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the dusters.
[SPEAKER_05]: The dusters.
[SPEAKER_05]: It, it is ridiculously powerful and the fan is like what like an inch and dying.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's the right way to do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, yeah, it rips.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you scaled it up like Kevin saying, you'd get like a little turbo jet.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay, here's my, here's my fan through my fluid dynamics there.
[SPEAKER_06]: When you have a fan, a small fan, it's creating like a tunnel of moving air, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And the thing that's stopping the air is like the sheer layer right because you have air that's not moving and you have air that's moving right and so you have like this boundary that of like friction that is going to slow the air and like kind of affect the stream negatively.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like if you have a really small fan and you're trying to get a jet of air like it won't go that far.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like an air compressor right you like spray the air out it's like yeah you can right can feel it you can feel it and then I pretty quickly like.
[SPEAKER_06]: you know, tapers off because that, that, like, you know, friction that, like, shear layer is like eating a lot of energy.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if you have, like, you ever see like the really big fans, like, for open sauce, you see sometimes we can rent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, they're like 48.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's, yeah, they're like the size of a piece of pride.
[SPEAKER_04]: Our 48 inch ones, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We, there you go.
[SPEAKER_06]: 48 foot band.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's like, okay, I'm thinking, like, that fan is
[SPEAKER_06]: But that sheer area is like a two dimensional, it's like surface is a perimeter and the volume now of it, like there's like a squared.
[SPEAKER_06]: I see you're like moving more air in the sheer areas, you know, significantly smaller, like less.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so you can move that air farther.
[SPEAKER_06]: So are you talking about like fast flow quantity of air moving like volume in general?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, because I think you can do it by with a smaller you fan, but I think more power what I'm saying is that the bigger fan will do a better job.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to avoid.
[SPEAKER_06]: You want a small fan?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but then just use like the world's biggest air compressor and a tiny nozzle.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't want that on my desk.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want, like, if I want a desk fan, like the eight inch fan.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just fucking rip the wall.
[SPEAKER_06]: I already want it to be about to take the wall or think as bad as it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Man in there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Imagine when your wall is just a giant box fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be cool, but you know what to be cool?
[SPEAKER_04]: One really powerful box fan to move the air around in your room.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sometimes you just need a big fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I mean, no, sometimes you get a small fan with big power and they don't make that I want to think big fan with medium power is better than small fan with enormous power.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want, I want a fan that's on my desk that's that small and I want it to be able to to blow my monitor off of my desk if I, you have to bolt it to death.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, you could do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you would sound like a fucking artist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nigel's a fan.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would sound like an airport.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're not a fan.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not a fan.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just sucks.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think of sucking ass.
[SPEAKER_06]: I really hope my family doesn't listen to this podcast for a wide variety of reasons but specifically because I would love to talk shit about the holidays
[SPEAKER_04]: This is all going to be you because I know that my family watches me my dad does why my sister sometimes does You're no way Yeah, she she just she likes podcasts, so she's got them all and like I don't know Spotify Really ran out of every other podcast until she goes sometimes ours comes up and she listens to it We have like a jar of tea at home
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like a big mason jar and it's just got tea bags in it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, like unused, like I loved my wife.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, got damn it.
[SPEAKER_06]: She listens to this to review it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, maybe I shouldn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, it's really like it's the worst way to store tea.
[SPEAKER_06]: It looks too jar.
[SPEAKER_06]: But like you can't stick your hand in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's also really big.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take out some tea bags.
[SPEAKER_04]: You need to take them all.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you want like a tea at the bottom of the bag.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, they're mixed in.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a bunch of, yeah, it just happens.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, if you want something at the bottom, because it's like everything is it kind of like, so you buy a box of tea and when you have the last few bags you throw it in the mason jar so you can get rid of the, you know, the empty box.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's sure we'll say that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: So what happens is the T at the bottom never gets used because you literally have to you have you can't stick your hand in there to dig like I like actually contort my hand and it still doesn't really kind of all wedge in there so you have to just take them out.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you have to like pull them out, you know, if you're like a couple at a time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyways, that's that's what I imagined when you told me your sister is like some podcast sometimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, it all came back.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's desperately, like the only thing left is like the war.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, my dad says that he sometimes watches it to help him fall asleep.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, that makes me feel like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, we don't have to talk about all that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You shall.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, what I want to talk about?
[SPEAKER_04]: My family's crazy bro.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to tell you that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's family's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is your family crazy, Nigel?
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, for the most part, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's a pen.
[SPEAKER_05]: If they have to quant qualify, crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just have to deal with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, sometimes I'd rather just be at home.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it's like Christmas.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the one time of year where you have to go on, you know,
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, you're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have to.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it's in my family.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not getting an inheritance or anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it really is just from the goodness of my heart.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: I get nothing from this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I could leave it anytime.
[SPEAKER_04]: And also I say, I don't want any presence too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want any presence because, you know, we're flying with one bag.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to have to deal with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's still got me presence.
[SPEAKER_04]: What did you get for Christmas?
[SPEAKER_06]: What do I get for Christmas?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was like, I always get like beef jerky, which is a huge win.
[SPEAKER_06]: My mom buys me a Marzipan, world market, I like Marzipan.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, world market is a food store.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's us, it's like a Tuesday morning, but more food oriented.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, because I drove past it and I'm like, oh, world market.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think like I've heard of that before and they have good food.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they like looked inside and it's like a bunch of rugs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like, it's like a different world marketing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like got shit in it and if you're parents to drag you, if your mom drags you there, it's never your dad.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like not as bad as getting dragged to like a Tuesday morning or what's the furniture store, the peer peer one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, who's day morning was the worst fucking horrible.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you lucky bastard.
[SPEAKER_06]: Imagine like princess auto, but for home bodies, like your mom, like imagine dad wants to go to like prison.
[SPEAKER_06]: Saw to your mom wants to go to the her version of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hobby Lobby, you know how they have like the home decoration section?
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they have like the craft section.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's only the home decoration section.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, I got when you're a kid.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like generally the worst.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like Guantanamo Bay.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's horrible.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I I remember my brother and I still bring it up my mom gets mad because we're on vacation once my mom was like I really want to stop and create in barrel.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would rather you drive off the overpass right now, put me into a barrel, fill it full of concrete, throw them into the ocean.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we exaggerated, but my dad straight up just went to bed on one of the display beds.
[SPEAKER_05]: And my brother is
[SPEAKER_05]: ended up they had a random thing we could try to grind pepper and my brother and I got gold to grind as much pepper as we got it because there's just a huge supply and I in our minds we were there for hours.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how long we were at that time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Big was the pie though.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a business like this like little podium with a stack of, I don't know why they set it up like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you can like refill it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like a big hopper full of peppercorns down into a grinder like you cranked it with your hand.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's like there's a separate grinder that you could.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the filler was for the employees and it went like low, they could add more and then it's just just be this pepper grinder on display, you could just see how it works.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we set our minds to grinding all of the stuff we didn't achieve it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But like a hand twist one for your wrist thoroughly right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think we're going to have like a crank on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, or was a hand twist?
[SPEAKER_06]: I know I've, I've shared this before, but like the pepper grinder I have at home is like probably one of the most awesome purchases I've ever made in my life.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they sell it anymore, at least it's not an Amazon.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like $40 like five years ago.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, expensive.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it literally just looks like a hand twist one.
[SPEAKER_06]: It looks like a pepper grinder that if you saw at the thrift store should be like $5.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, how does it work?
[SPEAKER_06]: What's so special about it?
[SPEAKER_06]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's exactly the same as a normal pepper grinder.
[SPEAKER_06]: It seems to be, but the grinder is all metal.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It, it, fucking rips.
[SPEAKER_06]: Really.
[SPEAKER_06]: Dude, it makes so much pepper.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's like, is it like a justible too?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you just all have to do is like screw it on the bottom.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's it's like it literally feels like every other pepper grinder, but it works.
[SPEAKER_04]: So goddamn yeah, we had one and I took it apart and I'm like, oh, that's why it wasn't working.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had to take it apart.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's all plastic.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it could just be that it's metal.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it literally destroys the pepper.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you can crank like in one turn, it will crank out all the pepper you need.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: One full turn is everything you need like it is back.
[SPEAKER_04]: This one had a dial.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like small meat like fine the course.
[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was good.
[SPEAKER_06]: You in a corn or you know something.
[SPEAKER_06]: I can't remember.
[SPEAKER_06]: I can't find it.
[SPEAKER_06]: If anyone's in the market for a pepper grinder, I strongly would go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, but so gifts, Nigel, did you get anything?
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you give any cool gifts?
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you get any cool gifts?
[SPEAKER_04]: Unicorn.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's $70.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: My entire holiday has been dominated by moving.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just like.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it's just been.
[SPEAKER_05]: busy but no I think I feel like it's the classic as you get older people generally give you a gifts and you receive you are like my family started doing the like the gift exchange where you only have to get for one person oh because it was just it was just a lot to try to find gifts for everyone um but no I got I got some nice stuff usually it's just things that are kind of useful
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm honest in my mom I thought my mom got me underwear, but it was like long johns for the for the cold weather.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those are actually really useful here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do they got some candy?
[SPEAKER_05]: Those are good chocolate.
[SPEAKER_04]: My mom is the queen of stocking stuffers.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like she goes, that's where she spends most of her time is like finding all the coolest little trinkets that she could find that would fit in a stocking.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, you know, like, check out area, Barnes and Noble.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: How it's filled with, like, disposed and gadgets.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that, those kind of little stress balls and my mom did just finish that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then one day she was like, I'm done.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's like, she's like, if you're officially too old for me to do this anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: He did this for a while, it was just, What did you run this brand?
[SPEAKER_02]: Great, great, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Grinch.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would come in.
[SPEAKER_05]: She would wrap everything and then it was just a lot of work.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's just, she already was also the one who cooks all the dinners.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hmm, she kind of like solos a lot of like how many slabs three four slabs and how so you got two brothers and you're dead.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's that's a lot of slabs Flab and blob too many slabs.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would be I would be done to if I did deal with that Manitials.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think my sister is the only thing that keeps my mom saying really When you think well the thing that I'll give Fred to my mom for she did quickly turn 18
[SPEAKER_05]: 25.
[SPEAKER_05]: She quit when I think my youngest brother was 30.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you guys are old enough that I don't need to get you stockings like stuff anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: This way, Tony was kids.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: We had, um, no, I shouldn't have.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I can tell a story.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, you tell a story.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what Sandra's step sister just had a baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, like, so we were doing that like older person Christmas where everybody gets each other a few gifts, but mostly it's just hanging out and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we go over this year, the baby's like one year's old and this house was packed to the, from the Florida, the ceiling with gifts.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they couldn't even bring all the gifts home.
[SPEAKER_04]: in their heart there was like you know like work little kid work benches rocking horses bean bag chairs like everybody bought this kid like five or six presents each like I feel like one episode of jeopardy and I'm like yeah shit kids don't need for five hundred dollars and it's gonna have no idea what's going on he's like you know not even two years old he's one and a quarter and what I wanted 16 months
[SPEAKER_04]: Mac don't don't don't don't do that to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's way too early in the morning.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, this kid got so many presents.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, you know, we each get one present.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're just like, okay, we're done.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like Christmas is renewed when there's a new kid in the family.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, yeah, it's in all the parents feel like, wow, Christmas is back.
[SPEAKER_04]: We get to do it again.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think there's less kid in general.
[SPEAKER_06]: People definitely.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so it's like when there is, when a kid does appear,
[SPEAKER_06]: it's like a like a holy miracle and everyone just you know you've ever seen those buffet videos with like the shrimp line oh yeah and the crab line it's like it's like the opposite it's like the kid is the the consumer and the buffet is the family yeah and the shrimp are like flying off out of the boat
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like they put a giant fan that Kevin built it's it's one of the shrimp.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen the one be the tenant?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I have I watched it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I watched it, but I have not seen it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, or yes, that makes any sense.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it does genuinely
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, and it reverse entropy buffet line, where the kid is the.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, you know, you know, when you're younger and your parents are like, stay away from girls, don't have sex, don't do this.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then like, three years later, they're like, a meat girls have sex, give us kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you're like, what the fuck mom, dad?
[SPEAKER_06]: They're like, they're like, they went too hard.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're like, no, no, no, and then they realize, like, oh, God, we're never gonna get the thing that we want.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's grandkids.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think the world went too hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's it, scaring people from having kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, what do you mean the world, the economy, the economy, the social, everything.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just find it very funny, like what's, what's like like a very controlling parent?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like what's sort of stereotype of that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm trying to think of the kids that I went to school with where they had that like, like the most, I don't see hypocritical, but the
[SPEAKER_06]: And then immediately, like, where's my grandkids, like, you're literally not allowed to spend time with girls and then three years later, they're like, where's my grandkids?
[SPEAKER_06]: And you're looking at them like, where what the fuck this is not the parent I grew up with?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, where did this pivot come from?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like the over control.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's almost like, you don't say it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't have any friends like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would imagine that would happen with girls more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so I'm trying to like, I've got John's parents wearing like, I can't I know a little bit you parents thought you were having sex in high school.
[SPEAKER_01]: My parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gross later grades now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: My parents didn't have it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they didn't care.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think one time my dad in like, I usually came back from Costco and he'd like, I didn't think it must have been a joke.
[SPEAKER_06]: He gave me like a giant box of kind of.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he was, I don't even remember what he said to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was like, yeah, at that age blah blah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it must have been like 16 years old.
[SPEAKER_06]: I did not use a single one of them.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those are like cursed condoms.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_06]: You push my appreciate the confidence in your son, though, dad.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that was a waste of money.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every time you would just be thinking, yeah, this is my dad, you know, you tell her by dad got me these.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no, tell who a girl.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, where to that where?
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, but like imagine if you did, you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but when did I have that opportunity?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think maybe once I had that opportunity.
[SPEAKER_06]: But then I was like, there's gotta be something wrong with this,
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought you were saying, um, you could never use condoms that your dad gave you because it would just feel awkward.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that's not why I couldn't use them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he imparted his energy onto the condoms.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I just, I never had an opportunity to use the condoms.
[SPEAKER_04]: I see, I see.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do to my own.
[SPEAKER_06]: Buff.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was, I was, um, of a student of science and engineering.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have dreams.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I did, I had okay grades, but like my goal in life was not to use those.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was to build cool machine.
[SPEAKER_06]: And women only will get in the way of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you look at me now and told me a story about you, a few stories about you in high school.
[SPEAKER_04]: The fuck?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you guys threw some parties at your place.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: Your sister did.
[SPEAKER_04]: He did, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why, can you tell me what this is?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm saying like, you're saying you're saying you're focused on grades and not women.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, or girls, and then you had parties at your place.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would say that I don't think I would have initiated a party.
[SPEAKER_06]: I had friends that would come over.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have friends, but like, they were probably the ones who would, like, throw a party.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I would, they would, like, throw a party at my house.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it was never like a crazy party.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I, she said it was never like a crazy party.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, multiple, like, I have this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Y'all say, I heard them do told me this one time she was having a party with her friends at the house and you decided to launch off some fireworks in the backyard that was me and then the cops came and and like they're like we heard there, you know, there's a party so there's a bunch of cars on the street.
[SPEAKER_04]: Your parents are out of town.
[SPEAKER_04]: The cops show up and everybody has to hide and she's like, oh, I think it was the neighbors that shot off a firework.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then as soon as the cops leave, like 10 minutes later, you shoot off another one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That sounds like fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's like 30 kids drinking underage in your parents' house while they're on vacation.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: How old were you were there, but it wasn't your life high school?
[SPEAKER_06]: Sounds like sound like sister would have done.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You want to talk about the one party that where I was cleaning up.
[SPEAKER_06]: you believe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You said to play it below up and make balloon.
[SPEAKER_00]: That troll you're dead with that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I see how do we how do we do this?
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, so there was a party.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a party in high school.
[SPEAKER_00]: You lived it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 10th grade.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was 10th grade because it was a project.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like right around the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[SPEAKER_00]: How are you gunned by me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, probably me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you probably scootered over or bike to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, walk, just close.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you, I like never been a party before.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, like, like a big rager.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I would say like reach a high school as close for me in my mind, it was a rager, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a big party.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a big house and it was a big party.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of people there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think like, you know, football team was there, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like one of those type.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you and because you are you and you're kind of aware you don't drink So you were cleaning up in the kitchen.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just you kept like throwing away beer Or light I don't know why you don't do that anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: It people make fun of you They would have made everybody clean up at the end anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Nightly do you ever get invited to a party in high school like that?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, sorry, get that TV or specific, like, like, like a, like a, like a trade party.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like a place where you could use the condoms you're dad bought for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a traditional like high school party.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or in high school, people have parties all the time actually.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but that's something like a question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you, did you, did you clean up them?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like,
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe at the end, it depends if it was like one of your friends' houses or not.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, these are, these are, this is like not like my friends house, like the people who knew, but not like hanging out with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were not friends.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, which is why you invited me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was trying to be friends, like, I know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you can go.
[SPEAKER_01]: What, are you like, we think you're trapped here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, as I have a geared now, I've never used any of those kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Pull out game was too strong, you know, you don't have, you know, I'm not even.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I could say it.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't have to pull out if it's, if you've never got, you know, I think that I regret nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was at a, um, a party in college one time.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was at like the Frat House across the street for my student apartments.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just remember being there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this guy was running around like screaming at people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pick up your shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he would see you put down an empty cup.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he would scream at you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you would have thrived in that
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't know why they didn't appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which is disrespectful asshole.
[SPEAKER_04]: You thought maybe if I clean, they'll invite me to more parties.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember, I remember them trying to get me to drink too.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, I don't think you like 15 years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, 15 is probably pretty young.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was everybody there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I really did any of that until.
[SPEAKER_04]: 16.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember 16.
[SPEAKER_06]: Kelsey was extremely drunk.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, off of one beer and off ice.
[SPEAKER_06]: Probably like a cap full.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was, that was, that's a, I don't want to say it's a fond memory.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a memory that I have.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Pupu.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just opening and closing the door.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what's worse, cleaning up, you know, being made fun of forecleaning up or getting yelled at for not throwing your can away.
[SPEAKER_06]: Being made fun of forecleaning up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cause like, you know, when you think about it, it is a weird thing to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're out of partying with people partying and then hands and things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were at Jake laser's party.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe six months ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I started cleaning up because there was literally no place to put anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You remember that?
[SPEAKER_04]: That was like it was bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think the difference is like if you're participating in the party and also cleaning.
[SPEAKER_06]: We weren't I showed up on you just heard cleaning and I just started cleaning.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, then we're the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I needed to put my beer down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you weren't like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had nowhere, so I'm like, I had to drink it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, yeah, yeah, well, no, I, we brought like a waste.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the whole, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: The, uh, they make fun of you for cleaning up.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you cleaning up is a reflection on their party.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is probably the most chad way of phrasing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, Nigel.
[SPEAKER_06]: I needed that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was like, you know what, I wouldn't have to clean up.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you entered stained vein, it's just the same thing with like holiday parties like with your family, too.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, I just want to do something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I totally get the enormous problems with sitting around.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't know if that's the brain damage or just not enough, um, and fetemines that have been prescribed by a doctor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure, I'm sure there are a lot of contributing factors.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because I really try to like not go on my phone, like I really make, I make like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my sister would always yell at me for that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you definitely would go on his phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I couldn't, because my sister would shoot you.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was shaming me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Good, good on her.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but also like, I really want to go on my phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you have to find I found the box of legos my box is better.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's good.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's better.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and so I think that is just how my how I operate and in high school.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was I needed something to do and what do you I mean really what is standing around drinking talking to people.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's not doing something The drinking makes it easier to do to clean to not think about anything and just talk that's true
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't really do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what it's for.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's literally the point of, uh, you know, you see what I want it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like if we're drinking, we should be also like fishing, you know, like you're on the pier.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like a hobo's do where you go on the pier.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the point of drinking is to lose your inhibitions.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that's the whole point is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it makes you feel better about your everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now worry about that's the house is being a mess.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should try it sometime.
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: Makes my bad too late.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's too late.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's too
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, um, I don't.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, maybe maybe this is like an apt description of summary of who I think I am.
[SPEAKER_06]: I made moonshine in high school.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_06]: I did not drink any of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: I let my friends drink it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you don't say like I enjoy the process of making it, but I'm not going to drink it of breaking the rules yeah doing it right and then get the way with that exactly and like I don't want this
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you never get high on your own supply.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: I also, you know, all the stories about about to move and try to people who ain't blind.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I failed my friends make it.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're all fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: They can be fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're not blind.
[SPEAKER_06]: The John drink any now.
[SPEAKER_06]: John definitely didn't drink.
[SPEAKER_06]: John was like me, but probably no, I'd say we're probably the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, John John, John, John, John would have been cleaning with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we get along so well.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so yeah, John St. he got invited to a party once because his friend was a magician and wanted John to film him doing his magic show.
[SPEAKER_06]: Was he good or bad?
[SPEAKER_06]: Where was it?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I should also say this just occurred to me my high school was very everyone in the grade was kind of more or less friends.
[SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of the parties were people would throw a party and everyone in the grade was invited.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I wasn't I theoretically agree it over a hundred, but it's like, yeah, it was like a hundred and something But probably at a party was like 30 people would show up Um, but it's like anyone could show up if they really wanted to There's a lot of people were like, I don't really feel like I know the host out well I'm just not really gonna go to this one
[SPEAKER_05]: And everyone also kind of did their own thing, but like the large grade, like, you know, big parties, kind of anyone in the grade to go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like it was very different than when I hear, you know, the typical high school parties.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like my brother, my younger brother went to a more typical high school.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he would talk about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Plenty of people through parties, and it was definitely not everyone was invited.
[SPEAKER_04]: what these kinds of parties love them then and high school really yeah yeah it was like I don't know maybe Florida was a big party place or drinking like about it yeah just the drinking and the partying and the hanging out yeah hanging out doing what though yeah drinking and partying and trying to you know flirt with girls and stuff like high school
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, meet girls.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, say, you know, you want to kiss girls.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's fucking cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not even drunk.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to start throwing up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Were you a chat or pretty gay?
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you chat?
[SPEAKER_04]: Were you a chat in high school or not?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but I tried to be, I think, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't like a chat, but I wasn't.
[SPEAKER_06]: What was your, what was your batting average?
[SPEAKER_04]: how many zeros trying to think of how many zeros frequently would you let me just say yeah you missed all the shots you don't take okay did you miss all the shots you took I don't like swinging oh yeah that's always the hardest part mm-hmm yeah I'll clean out a party bill never swing
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they say, you know, rejection doesn't feel as bad as you think it does.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you're like, wait, yes, it does screw that screw over.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like like now to I'm so glad I'm not a kid in this day and age is it would not just be like, oh, you got rejected it would become like potentially like a bigger or deal like people would make funny in a larger scale with social media and what you're making it worse for all the kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I mean, kids, kids shouldn't we had social kids don't party that's what I'm saying kids don't party they don't care if they're afraid of like publicized social rejection.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tell us you think kids are not promiscuous anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're not, I've seen lots of news articles saying that they don't drink, like, he impregnities down.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you see, that's, that's the mom who's like, no sex.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then, it once their kids 20, they're like, where's Mike Randbabies?
[SPEAKER_06]: And their kids are like, I literally am afraid of the opposite gender.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm, yeah, I'm going to play video games among discord all day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think a reason why parties were so big in Florida is because we had out east.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we had the beach towns.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we had the country.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the country was like, you know, the idea of like the third space or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it called the third space for the anyway that's where it was the party the partying because it's like a place where the kids could just get away And just like hang out you know like on some old like abandoned ranch for something like that we would do the beach the bonfires on the beach.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we couldn't do the beach like that the cops would be there in a minute, but Yeah, so you had a spot like that, but now I feel like where is that spot.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's discord, which is some, like, actually, it's like probably three orders of magnitude more effective than Trojan condoms.
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