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[SPEAKER_01]: It's his vote.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're ruthless.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, we should be ruthless and Democrats need to be ruthless in all kinds of places.
[SPEAKER_11]: I wish more good people were ruthless.
[SPEAKER_11]: I wish more good nations were ruthless.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mentioned to you today who came into the bar.
[SPEAKER_11]: During World War II, if we hadn't been ruthless, there's a whole lot of countries that would now be speaking German.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I know that there are a lot of countries who are like,
[SPEAKER_01]: the US needs to come help me well sweet cheeks we need your help now so you guys need to come help I don't take a whole lot of countries want our help well this is true there are yeah no not anymore yeah Trump really we have we we are now the bad guys the allied forces along with Germany are allied against allied against the united states right now so we're the bad guys
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I keep saying the U.S. of the bad guys.
[SPEAKER_11]: I keep hearing from some people who were the bad guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are considered the bad.
[SPEAKER_11]: There are people that in the nation, the nation is considered the bad guys, but we are the good guys.
[SPEAKER_11]: Congratulations.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you're here hanging out with us in the bar, you are also like us behind enemy lines.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the enemies are the people who are in charge.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I do call them enemies because they call us enemies.
[SPEAKER_11]: Literally Trump is out there threatening again.
[SPEAKER_11]: he's been throwing around the threat to use the insurrection actions his first regime yes he has but now he's got people that will do it yes and that's part of the danger and that's one of the reasons why i wish that there were more good people who didn't doubt didn't say oh gee i don't know is this going to be something is this it's got is this going to follow every letter of the law is this going to upset somebody
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you think they care about it on their side?
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you really think they care if it upsets?
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you really think they care if they have to retcon the law?
[SPEAKER_11]: They got the Supreme Court purposely, so that they can do whatever the hell they want, rewrite the law later.
[SPEAKER_11]: You don't think we can do it and do it for a good reason to do it on the good side?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if they've got the Supreme Court on their side, the Supreme Court will be against us if we break the law.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, of course.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: The Supreme Court is no longer legitimate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, and that's only six people on it aren't legit.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and we are going to have to fix that.
[SPEAKER_11]: There are a lot of things that we are going to have to fix, and we're going to have to be ruthless about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: We're going to have to be ruthless about doing good, about helping people.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I know it's kind of crazy, bud.
[SPEAKER_11]: There are speaking of ruthless stuff in the news on tap today in the first round.
[SPEAKER_11]: Obviously, we are talking about Trump's violent immigration wars and what the ice monsters are doing.
[SPEAKER_11]: I saw a report on CNN.
[SPEAKER_11]: I saw, I think, somebody chatting on, was it NBC News now?
[SPEAKER_11]: These are local officials.
[SPEAKER_11]: who are saying that either they directly or their constituents are reporting to them that they're seeing what used to be called black lockers, provocateurs, on Brelemann, exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: People who aren't locals, people who are there stirring up trouble.
[SPEAKER_11]: So if you're listening by the way on AM950 right now, it is night time, get your ass inside.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not kidding, because you should not be out there protesting, especially at night, especially with the monsters that Trump would say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Speak careful, just be careful, be peaceful, be careful.
[SPEAKER_11]: They gotta be careful everywhere right now.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think.
[SPEAKER_11]: The number of reports of ICE and DHS agents, not just in Minnesota, but all over the country trying to do whatever we had, we had the story actually yesterday in the news on tab about somebody breaking somebody's head in California, literally, breaking their skull.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's blinded when I.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then it has a fractured skull.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's down in the orange curtain.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's down behind the orange
[SPEAKER_11]: And yet even there, there are people, some of them who used to support Trump who are like niner, no, this is the things they're doing.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have a list of what the ice monsters are doing in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_11]: First of all, last night, it is disputed as to what went on, but it's a kind of a tough area of Minneapolis and the ice monsters decided to stir up trouble.
[SPEAKER_11]: and people there looks like a guy from Venezuela and a couple of his friends were like you are not going to drag us off they need to drag you off anyway and an ice monster shot the guy in the leg mm-hmm but it's not just Minnesota ice once 10,000 more agents on the streets of America everywhere and they've got all kinds of spy gear and spy things yeah calling them
[SPEAKER_11]: It's not off.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's not wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what I did read an article the other day I didn't send it to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of long.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a personal article this woman wrote.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was going to apply to work for ICE just to kind of see.
[SPEAKER_11]: She was on slate in as are in a couple of places too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And they're like,
[SPEAKER_11]: If you do a simple Google search of her, she's a journalist who hates Trump and hates ICE.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she was she was given to field office with she ever even continued the application.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they said, thank you for you've made it through the process.
[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't even continue it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just kept because and she said when she went in person before everything, there weren't that many people there.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, and there's a story that they've been pushing that ice and and the Trump regime have been pushing that oh, well, there is an error so some people may not have had training They're doing it on purpose.
[SPEAKER_11]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're sending these people out untrained on purpose So among other things then they can attempt to say well, we did no Is knowing is not knowing a law and excuse?
[SPEAKER_11]: No Jody's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ask any police officer an actual police officer
[SPEAKER_11]: see look.
[SPEAKER_11]: You got to know the law, but they don't care.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think for a long time there are a lot of people, and I will say, especially centrist Democrats, and some of you you know, former Republicans, anti-Trump Republicans, some of you independence out there who've been, you've been in love to say this.
[SPEAKER_11]: Tom Hartman is a great piece.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have there in the first round in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the long and short, I rewrote the headline could make it a little more accurate, but Tom's basically asking you what point do we admit this is an immigration enforcement, but a regime of purposely racist brutality because that's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he heard him today talking about a friend of his daughter who got married to a Mexican national years ago during the Obama administration and she's a super white as you can get and he's a lovely Mexican national at the time they had one child and he came here without paperwork.
[SPEAKER_01]: before they got married and had obviously been here undocumented a while met her got married child so minimum of a year and some change and just you know doing the math in my head there and he said that what happened when in this is during the Obama administration like I said there was not gone their door and it was two ice enforcement people in suits
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, uh, with their badges and they're not not all ganged up like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, breaking down the door and they basically just entered IRS levels, suit and tie.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with your ID and all of that stuff, and so you can see their name.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly and so they knocked on the door and I can help you and they came in and they told the family look you haven't been in this country legally You don't here's the paperwork to show it You have X amount of time a month or so or more whatever time period it was because Tom Hartman did not recall being exact amount of time They were given X amount of time to leave the country
[SPEAKER_01]: on their own and then potentially reapply for him to become now that he's married to an American citizen, reapply if you want to move back into the country because that actually happened to a friend of mine in the 90s.
[SPEAKER_01]: there are procedures for it and people have been using those procedures for years for decades and so the Bernie Sanders tried to help him out he couldn't because hey the paperwork is accurate it's it's valid you need to leave and getting deported is different than going hey you guys this is wrong you got to get out or it's going to be more uncomfortable based on that you got to reapply you got to go through the hoop right and so they they took off and moved to
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it was there was no flash bangs.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no tear gas.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was none of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like my friend Steve, he moved out here.
[SPEAKER_01]: God in the early 80s.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he was here on a tourist visa from England.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you've done better for like almost 15 years.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he's a hell of a tourist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's waiting to strike.
[SPEAKER_08]: But, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: working and doing, you know, doing all sorts of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he met his still wife and they've been together 30 plus years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he met her and they got married and because he hadn't been back to England in years, he had married in Americans, the U.S. citizen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he thought he could go back to England, see if she could meet the family, you know, that didn't come for the wedding.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They go to England for a week or so, they come home and when they landed in New York before they came back to Los Angeles, they landed in New York and as they're going through customs, customs looks at his passports and says, oh no, you're getting back on that plane.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they said, well, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you
[SPEAKER_01]: your last, you never got stamped back, back and forth basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: You never got stamped back in England until just recently.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you got here on what 1981 or whatever it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they literally made him get on a plane and go back to England that day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was not allowed back in the country
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though he's married to his still wife, she was a flight attendant, so it was easy for her to kind of go back and forth and keep her place here and all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, she was capable of that kind of thing without losing her job, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_11]: But I mean, Very, very specialized situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and they had to pass all the tests that you have to pass, proving that it's a real marriage and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, very simple, dude.
[SPEAKER_11]: But long and short, the point is it was a lot of paperwork and a lot of time, it was not a lot of violence.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: And not a lot of jacked up dudes in camouflage with guns threatening violence.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's that's not how it's supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is, I mean, and top of our immigration is supposed to be about paperwork and rules and laws.
[SPEAKER_11]: It is not supposed to be about terror and violence and scaring the hell out of people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Donald Trump in his best year has yet to deport as many people as Obama did in one year by almost half.
[SPEAKER_11]: You mean, wait a minute, Jody.
[SPEAKER_11]: You mean half-assing it and doing it wrong doesn't actually improve.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially when you're not even, I mean, some of the people are going after.
[SPEAKER_11]: are even are citizen or they have green cards or they have the proper visa whatever is so much more to talk about with this we will talk about it here it is a Thursday night John Fugle says is going to be in a just a little bit we have a very good sweet and sticky drink of the day coming up and of course we'll pour another round for you here from the news on tap hang out with us it is Thursday nights thanks for being here at the politics box
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[SPEAKER_11]: I did put salt on a watermelon when I was a kid a lot of people like that Yeah, and I don't these days in part because well my wife is allergic to watermelon
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[SPEAKER_11]: Joe, he's right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Anyway, they are.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look, we like to be able to talk about things like melons and salts and fun.
[SPEAKER_11]: And instead, these Trumpian jackasses in ice.
[SPEAKER_11]: The way the immigration is supposed to be, it's supposed to be boring.
[SPEAKER_11]: Bye!
[SPEAKER_11]: Most people work, it's supposed to be, please do this, please do that.
[SPEAKER_11]: And most people are like, okay, fine, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And okay, and also with Biden and Obama, they were going after the people that were criminals.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, they went after them more.
[SPEAKER_11]: I can't remember the legal or Capitol Hill's room, it's called Privileged Basically.
[SPEAKER_11]: They said, put the people who are the bad people first on your list of people to go after.
[SPEAKER_11]: These people are going, we didn't have the right, I didn't find the right up, you didn't find the right up, but we both heard it multiple times.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think a lot of people have the story last night about guy with a six month old and other kids in the car trying to get away from some of the ice stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_11]: They ended up throwing, oh, was a flashbang and a tear gas.
[SPEAKER_10]: in the car, and yes, take the kids all the kids to the hospital.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, everybody's still in the hospital as far as I know.
[SPEAKER_11]: Because ICE tear gasped, the car full of kids in what universe is tear gasping a car full of kids going to help stop crime.
[SPEAKER_10]: Illegal immigration or crime or both in what universe does that help.
[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Steven Miller is saying that these ice monsters, as we call them, have full immunity under no.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's even saying that state, city, and county officials can't tell them no.
[SPEAKER_11]: No.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yep, he is wrong again.
[SPEAKER_11]: Steven Miller is he is one of the biggest problems.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I have absolutely nothing nice to say about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same, nobody like, nobody that really knows him likes him except his stupid wife.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she likes Elon better.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think she likes the power.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: And she doesn't like, well, he may have some money.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm sure that I was thinking nearly as much as Elon does.
[SPEAKER_11]: But I think she likes, I think she likes the fact.
[SPEAKER_11]: Steven Miller has his hand up Donald Trump's ass, and he's using Donald Trump as a puppet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she thinks, I think she thinks she's going to be first lady.
[SPEAKER_01]: She will never be first lady.
[SPEAKER_02]: News flash.
[SPEAKER_02]: Daddy never going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not if we have legitimate elections that will never happen.
[SPEAKER_11]: I have been hearing a lot more people worried about the legitimate election thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, because he wants to take the ballots again, because he has now an army that will go get it for him versus last time, but we also have a lot of people, a lot of especially your local sheriffs, your local police, as we're seeing the local police in the Twin cities who are fighting against the ice monsters.
[SPEAKER_11]: It seems like it's a lot right now, but in order to create this kind of chaos,
[SPEAKER_11]: They have about 3,000 ice monsters, ice and DHS people there, compared to the twin cities who have about 1,200, but I remember we did numbers on this.
[SPEAKER_11]: This was back before the holiday break, the December holiday break.
[SPEAKER_11]: And we looked at the numbers and simply put, among your local police, your state, and your whatever, all the different officials who aren't ice monsters, who aren't under Donald Trump's control.
[SPEAKER_11]: There are way more of us than there are of them.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, yeah, this is just another one of you things.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is why Trump has been threatening to use the insurrection act since his first regime.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah, well, I'm going to use the insurrection act.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, now he's got people that won't stop it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the difference between now and then.
[SPEAKER_01]: There were people then that were like, no, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is bad.
[SPEAKER_11]: But there are still more of us in there.
[SPEAKER_11]: We're more of us on the ground and there are more of us across the country.
[SPEAKER_11]: The idea, the thing that I keep
[SPEAKER_11]: pushing amongst the folks on our side is we have to remember the what we say everywhere we say has consequences.
[SPEAKER_11]: So when we get people worried and get people afraid, there are a whole lot of people who will just pull back.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I understand what you're saying, but you also have to not be as naive as you sound and understand that he's got people, they will turn their guns on.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've already turned guns on us.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're waiting for us to turn guns on them, and what he wants, and it's potentially going to happen, and that is what he wants, and then he will have the right to do that.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that's the problem.
[SPEAKER_11]: Except when you get in that area, and you're looking at a whole lot of fuzzy stuff,
[SPEAKER_11]: Right, just like law, depends on numbers.
[SPEAKER_11]: It depends on, they're all kinds of laws that were laws and then they weren't.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I understand that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right, and I'm saying the numbers are absolutely against these monsters.
[SPEAKER_11]: We've got some pieces there under the America wants to abolish ice section in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_11]: New CNN poll confirms half of Americans know that ice is making U.S. cities less safe.
[SPEAKER_11]: and then we've got a great piece from strengthen numbers.
[SPEAKER_11]: You could look at the CNN poll, the Quinnipiac poll, the Yugav Economist poll, I mean, the polling is all saying the same thing over and over and over.
[SPEAKER_11]: You're looking, ICE used to be a 70-30 issue.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now that usually is is when you're when you're talking in politics a 70 30 issue a 70 30 issue you want to be on the 70 percent side of things like more than 70 percent of people actually want abortion to be legal they wanted to be safe and rare but they also want to be legal
[SPEAKER_11]: More than 70% of Americans actually want gun safety laws.
[SPEAKER_11]: And at local and state levels, they've been instituting more of those.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, of course, because we've got the Trump regime and the illegitimate Supreme Court, yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Perfect example.
[SPEAKER_11]: I call it the illegitimate Supreme Court.
[SPEAKER_11]: I am waiting for some city or some state to say what has been said in the past to the Supreme Court.
[SPEAKER_11]: F you make me.
[SPEAKER_11]: So the Supreme Court rules and says, well, and I'm going to do it.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's what everybody should do this way.
[SPEAKER_11]: And everybody absolutely knows that they're just doing whatever Donald Trump says.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so the city of the state goes, make me bite me.
[SPEAKER_11]: You have no power to enforce it.
[SPEAKER_11]: You're wrong.
[SPEAKER_11]: And everyone else at every other level says you're wrong.
[SPEAKER_11]: So you think you have the right make me prove it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Come at me, bro.
[SPEAKER_11]: people go, oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I go, they can't do it because they don't have the numbers.
[SPEAKER_11]: They are going to use the mass media, the TV, the radio, the internet to try to make it look like everywhere is the arrest of that guy in Minneapolis last night.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're going to try to make everywhere look like the murder of Ms. Good.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're going to try to make it look like they
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, that doesn't mean that I'm, I even saying, you know, that things are not touching and hearing and scary because they are.
[SPEAKER_11]: But the absolute numbers prove even a lot of mega people are like, man, this was not what I voted for and we all know that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think having that knowledge helps reduce the fear, having that knowledge that you're like, you know, that's one of the reasons why we go through the news and why we tell people, you know, you're not crazy.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're trying to make you feel like you're crazy.
[SPEAKER_11]: You're not crazy.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're trying to scare you.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it is scary.
[SPEAKER_11]: But also, there's a difference between being naive and understanding
[SPEAKER_01]: you also I think okay so there's a possibility of Minnesota's national guard being called out sure and I honestly I wish I wish that governor walls was a bit more ruthless in calling out the national guard and their mandate should be do not shoot at ice agents unless they shoot at you the what and then we are in a civil war between state government and federal government
[SPEAKER_11]: Can I absolutely understand that?
[SPEAKER_11]: But if the ice agents shoot at the National Guard first, the National Guard lit her under lock and shoot back at them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, Feds, guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: He calls in the Army.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the insurrection act and puts everybody down.
[SPEAKER_11]: except you actually have to have the, this is one of those things having been in the military that I see throughout a lot of the news.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I see lots of people on all sides think this.
[SPEAKER_11]: Soldiers are not mindless at all.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's use your hypothetical, and let's say that the ice people shot at the national guard.
[SPEAKER_11]: They know because some of them are national guard members.
[SPEAKER_11]: They knew if this hypothetical would happen, and the national guard says we are doing our job to try to make sure that no violence happens and that you are able to do your job ice, but you are not going beyond your scope, which they can do.
[SPEAKER_11]: government walls could do that, other governors could do that, Prince Kirk could do that, do some could do it, whatever.
[SPEAKER_11]: They call them out like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Everybody would see that the ice monsters started.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then the soldiers have, they have the option.
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you follow an illegal order?
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you follow an illegal order to shoot against people who started the battle?
[SPEAKER_11]: And the answer is no, you don't follow the illegal order.
[SPEAKER_01]: a bunch of people just followed illegal orders into Venezuela and these are high level people following orders into Venezuela.
[SPEAKER_11]: And they're in their high level because in part, the Trump regime has been putting them there over the last year.
[SPEAKER_11]: I know that there I know, but I also know that there are lots and lots of people all over the government and in the military who are regular people and who are regular people like the polls that we're seeing.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're saying I'm not going to do illegal things.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're not.
[SPEAKER_11]: Everybody has got to understand what's going on and make the decisions for themselves.
[SPEAKER_11]: And one of those decisions happens to be, if you get an illegal order, it's one of the things you had the story yesterday on a list of slot can.
[SPEAKER_11]: I was wondering if it would go further and of course it did.
[SPEAKER_11]: We've got that a little bit further down in the fourth round on Capitol Hill.
[SPEAKER_11]: So there are four more Democratic members of Congress.
[SPEAKER_11]: So you got Slotkin and Kelly and I believe for House members basically all the Democrats who said don't do illegal orders Now we've got a video up on our YouTube page where we actually ask Len Kirchner about this There are lots of reasons you don't do illegal orders, but this is one of the things we've been talking about here at the politics bar for a long time now, which is
[SPEAKER_11]: The current state of affairs is not going to last for the next 50 years, and if you engage in following an illegal order and you're a member of the military, congratulations, you're going to need the current situation to stay this way for the next 50 years.
[SPEAKER_11]: Or it can be your ass going to jail.
[SPEAKER_11]: Accountability is going to happen.
[SPEAKER_11]: So do you want to follow an illegal order or do you want to follow the law?
[SPEAKER_11]: The choice is to follow Donald Trump, or the choice is to follow the law, and you need to be ruthless about that.
[SPEAKER_11]: And Democrats also need to be ruthless about these ice monsters.
[SPEAKER_11]: I still see some who are being nearly mouthed about, you know, should we do this thing about the budget?
[SPEAKER_11]: And I am seeing more thankfully who are saying, we don't have a choice.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have some great write-ups about that in the news on Tap Today.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have one from Mary Trump, outlining why ice is beyond reform.
[SPEAKER_11]: Greg Sargent put out a great piece, noting that Joe Rogan, who we played the co-yester, a couple cuts from him, and then his take down of ISIS handed Democrats a political weapon.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the weapon look, if we have to shut down the government to shut down these ice monsters, being able to romp into places from coast to coasts, off 50 states and seven territories, do whatever the hell they think they want.
[SPEAKER_11]: Instead of knocking new drawer gently and providing
[SPEAKER_11]: If that's what we have to do, to shut the government down, to stop the ice monsters, then shut it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't have a problem with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when you say that war there to be a scuffle, let's say, between a national guard person and an ice person, right now, the national media is just reporting, whether it's true or not, that Ross had internal bleeding.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they're reporting it as if it's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the problem with the media.
[SPEAKER_01]: They would, they would report that the guard shot first.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mark my words.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they would.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they would because that would be the Christy Nome and Donald Trump saying it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And therefore, that's what happened.
[SPEAKER_11]: There are a whole lot of people also who are not listening to the national media anymore because they don't trust them.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't trust them.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I'm in the media.
[SPEAKER_11]: You are, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't trust them at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not if I had gotten that report outside, say I worked at the New York Times or ABC or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got that report.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be like, well, what hospital was he taken to?
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get his medical records when we talk to him like a week later?
[SPEAKER_11]: Why didn't we hear about it right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're not reporting that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just reporting things.
[SPEAKER_11]: The admin saying that this had been stenography.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is what Trump third.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're doing a stenography.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's one of the reasons why people don't trust the national media anymore.
[SPEAKER_11]: The national news media is because they're doing stenography.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, Donald Trump says it's supposed to be true.
[SPEAKER_11]: Nope, that's not how you do journalism folks.
[SPEAKER_11]: And if that's how you're doing journalism, go get a job at Walmart.
[SPEAKER_01]: And trust me, had he actually been for sure injured, there were to be a press conference outside that hospital.
[SPEAKER_11]: Jody's right.
[SPEAKER_11]: See, you got to walk through a logic with smart people like Jody and me.
[SPEAKER_11]: John Fuegel sang who will be here shortly.
[SPEAKER_11]: And of course, we got a drink of the day coming up too.
[SPEAKER_11]: In fact, we can do that next.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
[SPEAKER_11]: We will do the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_11]: It is a Thursday, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Fresh in your drink and come right back and hang out with us.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know what day it is, it's Thursday.
[SPEAKER_11]: Tomorrow's Friday.
[SPEAKER_11]: We'll hang out with you both days here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_11]: We had John Fuckel saying coming in because you know how it goes.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's Thursdays with Thuglefang.
[SPEAKER_11]: of course we do have a few more rounds from the news on tap but of course we do have the drink of the day we want to do that for you as well by the way if you missed the drink of the day or any part of the show maybe you missed a few go saying interview you're like I could swear he's going to be at the end he's coming over early best thing you could do just subscribe at the politics bar dot com six dollars a month get you the podcast ad for each you can fast forward to rewind to whatever point you want
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, Jody.
[SPEAKER_11]: We've been talking about some sticky situations.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, but there there was a I was not prepared for this one today.
[SPEAKER_11]: I looked at the drink of the day because usually Jody writes these up ahead of time and I thrown in my two and a half cents for whatever it is some days and I looked and I was like, what?
[SPEAKER_11]: I was I was not prepared it.
[SPEAKER_11]: At first I was thinking, oh, this would be kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can get the details and this is kind of
[SPEAKER_11]: Sticky and nasty.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was an ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's pictures too.
[SPEAKER_11]: I only got a few in there, but yeah, but they're kind of gross Especially that one that's a little bit further down with the guys like covered covered in it Yeah, of course if you subscribe, you know exactly what we're talking about already and if you don't can you help them lighten the folks Jody who don't understand yet
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so the drink of the day is called a Boston Rumpunch, which is inspired by the Boston Milassus disaster on January 15th and 1919, the same year we passed copyright law, um, it's just in my brain from school, um, so a giant tack of Milassus exploded.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the primary alcohol made from it is rum, hence being a rum punch.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: So we got, obviously, but I looked to the couple I added a couple other details in there because I was like, wait a minute, I remember some stuff from physics about this.
[SPEAKER_11]: Um, molasses is, it's a heavy.
[SPEAKER_11]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's, I mean, it's a liquid, um, but it has, what is, what is the term?
[SPEAKER_11]: basically means depending on the temperature and pressure that is used to transport and move it, its viscosity, whether it's thinner thick changes, you can create weapons.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not suggesting you do, but you can create literally, and there are weapons that create this because of non-Newtonian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's 40% more dense than water.
[SPEAKER_11]: And in this particular case, that created an even worse situation.
[SPEAKER_11]: The attack exploded, as you noted, but they had loaded at the previous day.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: And of course, they warmed up the molasses to pump it in the previous day that warm molasses were sitting on top of cold molasses in a tank that they later found was just completely not what it should have been to hold all of this.
[SPEAKER_11]: And they overloaded the tank, caused the thing to burst.
[SPEAKER_11]: The descriptions you found, and then I found another one too from a scientific American.
[SPEAKER_11]: The Boston Post wrote about this in 1919, molasses waste deep, covered the street, and swirled and bubbled about the wreckage.
[SPEAKER_11]: Here in their struggle to form, whether it was animal or human being.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, you may be like, what?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: The heavy density that Jody noted, and as the scientific American article notes, a wave of molasses does not behave like a wave of water, a wave of molasses is even more devastating than a typical tsunami.
[SPEAKER_11]: So what happened is this tank burst and a wall of syrup surge, remember most of its warm, so it's surged out really fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people got stuck.
[SPEAKER_11]: because it was like 40 degrees.
[SPEAKER_11]: So all of a sudden, it coalesced.
[SPEAKER_11]: So a wave of brownish liquid fills up the street you're in and then suddenly you can't even walk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 150 people were injured.
[SPEAKER_01]: 21 people were killed and the number of horses died because they couldn't move either.
[SPEAKER_11]: Damn.
[SPEAKER_11]: Clean up took weeks is nasty.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's nasty, but from this horrendous disaster,
[SPEAKER_11]: So, 119 Bostonians brought a class action lawsuit against the company that owned the distillery where the molasses.
[SPEAKER_11]: I liked it the last name of the treasure of the company was Jell, which, you know, tends to give him the given molasses.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: That.
[SPEAKER_11]: But they did.
[SPEAKER_11]: The treasurer who had overseen it, overseen the building of the tank, clearly did not do his job.
[SPEAKER_11]: They sued, as well as the first class action lawsuits and Massachusetts.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you, Massachusetts for doing that.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it paved the way for modern corporate regulation.
[SPEAKER_11]: A lot of laws governing construction were changed as a result of the disaster, which Donald likes to get rid of.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: and Republicans in general, like it really relations.
[SPEAKER_11]: But look, it was a horrible disaster, but some good things can come from horrible things.
[SPEAKER_11]: True.
[SPEAKER_11]: So sometimes you're more focused on a disaster and in the moment, God, I can imagine being hit by that wave.
[SPEAKER_11]: I can imagine the terror.
[SPEAKER_11]: Those people in the forces felt, but...
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, buildings were to strike some of them.
[SPEAKER_11]: So, pushed off their foundations, even?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a horrible, horrible disaster.
[SPEAKER_01]: but the drink is pretty good, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_11]: What is it in a Boston rum pod?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to need a shaker and a mudler.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't used one of those in a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: A vegetable peeler, a colon class, some ice, a lemon, two ounces of traditional Jamaican rum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: One and a half ounces of fresh lemon juice, sugar, and you garnish with an orange slice and or a strawberry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which sounds just yummy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So first to use the vegetable peeler to remove a bit of yellow peel from the lemon to avoid the, avoid the white stuff underneath just the yellow part.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, I, D, H, P, the Pith.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, don't be pithy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to pet the frog once I didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: My partner did.
[SPEAKER_01]: The worst thing you can do to a living animal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, poor guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like the my little gross.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Take the vegetable peel and get a little bit of the peel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you place the lemon peel in a glass or container and add the sugar.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it can vary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it doesn't say how much sugar.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all a matter of your taste.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would start with a pinch and go on from there.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right, you know, don't go with the tablespoon.
[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe if you like sweeter, go with a teaspoon or half teaspoon, but whatever you're afraid, whatever you're flavoring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what you do then is you use your mother to grind together the sugar and the lemon peel until it's thoroughly muddled, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like my brain.
[SPEAKER_01]: And...
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you add the lemon juice, water to make lemonade to your taste, so you're making lemonade now, kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you add the rum and lemonade to the shaker, you add the ice and shake it until cold, you pour it, unstrained, just pour it right out, pour it right out, pour it right out, and you garnish with either the orange slice or the strawberry and or the strawberry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like a very refreshing drink.
[SPEAKER_11]: It does, especially when you compare it to what we were talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: What the story was about.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is a light drink with a nice taste versus molasses down the street.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: But yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, since we want something a little bit lighter and we're talking about drinks.
[SPEAKER_11]: Some good news, Jody, you check this down in the fifth round.
[SPEAKER_11]: CBS now claims that Whiskey Friday was just an experimental test.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they got a lot of, like, what the hell are you thinking, emails?
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm sure they got reaction from that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I did see our name, Bandy, about, and a few places, and I was like, good, tell them, tell them about us, please, but I'm like, what the hell, man?
[SPEAKER_11]: You're so desperate, Barry Weiss, that you got to steal from us a couple of folks who have a small radio show and a podcast, and you're stealing from us.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that's sorry, S. Sirius, like what the hell?
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_11]: Some other media matters, by the way.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is a little bit more serious.
[SPEAKER_11]: The FBI has searched the home of the Washington Post reporter that happened yesterday.
[SPEAKER_11]: The post put out an op-ed defending her, which they is glad.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I'm glad they did.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's a lot of shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's a lot of shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, I don't think this is anything legit, but I think this is their attempt to try to get names of people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: I am pretty sure that this particular journalist was smart enough not to keep actual names tied to stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I, it's, I mean, you know, reporters keep their sources close to the vests.
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully if she has their her sources written down, they're written down in code.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly, and I, and yes, turn on was do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they do.
[SPEAKER_11]: Some other good things, if you were a fan of the dead and Bob weir, you can check out the link in our entertainment section there.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's going to be a big public memorial in San Francisco on Saturday.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sounds like a plan for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like a appropriate place.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly, I think so too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Speaking of places, Bruno Mars has added a few 30 plus new dates to his tour this year.
[SPEAKER_11]: So he's great.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's he's freaking fantastic.
[SPEAKER_11]: I wish he put out more more work, but you know, the stuff he puts out is pretty pretty solid.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's very talented.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very talented kid.
[SPEAKER_11]: Speaking of talented, Coco Gothen, Venus Williams are set for potential face-off in the Australian open in the second round.
[SPEAKER_11]: So that should be pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: People who are not exactly talented, however, 20 people now have been indicted, including former college basketball players,
[SPEAKER_11]: In that federal basketball game-fixing scandal, I remember we had the story about this.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was this last year's October or November or something like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, now they actually got a bunch of them that are actually in trouble.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it's like, yeah, come on man.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, they were shaving points and it's just it's dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get caught somebody's going to figure it out.
[SPEAKER_11]: People are smart, people are paying attention these days.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is not rocket science, y'all.
[SPEAKER_11]: But some folks is not exactly wise.
[SPEAKER_11]: So some good news and some mixed news in election land today.
[SPEAKER_11]: So federal judges have allowed the California congressional map to stand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope that holds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it will.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Elito basically made a point when he ruled with Texas.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_11]: And also the Virginia House Democrats of overwhelming past the redistricting bill there.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's setting that to the state Senate for likely passage means it'll be on the bill here and we'll probably get that through.
[SPEAKER_11]: So the balance at that point actually may end up shifting to Democrats unless Florida does something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Florida doesn't have a whole lot of time to do something.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, and there are a lot of Republicans down there who have checked with their their voters and their voters are very much against it.
[SPEAKER_11]: they may not be as against the redistricting thing as they are against ice, but they're like let's not play these games.
[SPEAKER_11]: So Republicans thought they were going to go in and on a national basis for the U.S. House pick their voters and voters have made it clear.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thanks to, frankly, you know, a ruthless governor out in California, some ruthless Democrats in Virginia,
[SPEAKER_11]: Who have said, no, you ain't gonna go, we ain't, we ain't, we ain't playing games.
[SPEAKER_11]: And ruthless Democrats in other places in the country too, who are saying, you know what?
[SPEAKER_11]: We'll step up and I am very glad.
[SPEAKER_11]: When we talk about being ruthless, that's what we mean.
[SPEAKER_11]: If they want to play, y'all, let's go.
[SPEAKER_11]: But it does not look like the Republicans are going to be able to gerrymander their way into success in the house.
[SPEAKER_11]: So ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_11]: Just kind of, you know, one of those kind of things that that's the kind of thing that makes me happy when you look at it and you say, hey, you want to, I mean, you know, it is a competition and we can compete, but we've got to not be afraid to do so.
[SPEAKER_11]: especially because we have better ideas.
[SPEAKER_11]: Also we have better gas.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have John Fugel saying coming in and he is one of our favorite guests.
[SPEAKER_11]: He will talk to us about all this Michagas going on and I'm sure he's got some definite different look perspectives as far as this goes.
[SPEAKER_11]: I know Frank Conna has some good perspective.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'll see if I can find his is post or whatever on social media about that as well.
[SPEAKER_11]: It is the top of the hour.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look, dude, you gotta do.
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[SPEAKER_10]: John Tugelsang, we're in the house.
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[SPEAKER_10]: John, thanks for coming to joining us tonight.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, we're riff-rath.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, we don't always do everything the way you riff-rath.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We do have lyrics, great music from Lonnie and of course, we have the wonderful John Fuckel sent here.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you by the way, everybody listening on all of our great radio affiliates, whether you are listening on AM950 in the Twin Cities or WCPT AMA20 Chicago, maybe you're listening in Atlanta on Georgia now.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You're listening in Tennessee on the D2 or talk.
[SPEAKER_11]: I haven't up my notes.
[SPEAKER_11]: I was looking at some of the names sorry.
[SPEAKER_11]: Of course, maybe you're listening a progressive voice is radio somewhere around the
[SPEAKER_11]: I wish more people would be listening to you and paying attention to you either when you're here on the show or you know on some other show around series XM because you do often have a lot of good things to say I have to admit that that some of the things that I see people say to you on social media.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like really don't come at him I got all matter of hateful things set to me all day long on social media.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to narrow it down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like at this point, the ones who actually spell your correctly, I respect, I don't care how much they ate me, I think I understand if they can understand a posture fees, I'll forgive the hate.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, like, like, I see, I see sometimes, I'm just saying as a general thing, because I don't remember specifically, but I'll see like religious people who claim that they're like members of the cloth or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm at John.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you with you?
[SPEAKER_11]: And I'm like, okay, first of all, John is literally written to book.
[SPEAKER_11]: You guys don't even read the book that you're speaking about.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so I just, and I'm like, what the hell is that?
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, sorry, it just, it makes me frustrated as hell.
[SPEAKER_11]: And obviously, I'm sure you've gotten some of these kinds of same people.
[SPEAKER_11]: Coming after you were some of the stuff going on in Minnesota and the ice moths.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get a much more pious level of death threats since I made the New York Times best-seller list, which is really nice when the deep Christians weigh in.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, you look at what's going on in Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, it's just so despicable.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've really found a way to normalize murder of an American citizen and these are the Christians I think it's great that they're taking a break from clumsily covering up child rape and the Epstein files to clumsily cover up the murder of an American citizen We can all see on video from multiple angles But they they found a way to make the Christians go along with it and and it's by putting the dead lady on trial I mean, I mean, I like like let's investigate the dead woman like this scooly do film
[SPEAKER_03]: Scooby-Dooville in logic, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: The real mystery is why the victim made us do this and that's Look at all the top career officials in the civil rights division who are quitting because they were ordered Not to investigate the shooting.
[SPEAKER_03]: The amount of lies already told by Trump and Vance and Christy Known and now seeing how attorneys in the civil rights division which is supposed to automatically investigate they all quit just a big science And don't look here
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no way history won't call this a cover up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Investigations like this don't go after the guilty.
[SPEAKER_03]: They protect the system and it shows how dumb they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: If Donald Trump had just come out and said, you know what, folks, it's a tragedy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's have the investigation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not jump to any conclusions.
[SPEAKER_03]: See what the investigation really had.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he had said that, he would have shut the liberals up.
[SPEAKER_03]: He would have shut everybody up and we all would have said, oh, gee, that was actually measured, but they can't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Instead, they all do JD vans logic, which is this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But she was a terrorist, so it's good that she's dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the Christian souffle.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're serving up to these hypocrites.
[SPEAKER_03]: I swear to God, man, it's like, and all this again, over the lies about illegal immigration.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, it's all racist, John.
[SPEAKER_11]: All racist.
[SPEAKER_11]: Our friend Tom Hartman did this great piece.
[SPEAKER_11]: We've got it in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_11]: But literally, he's basically saying in his piece that he writes, at what point do we admit this is not immigration enforcement?
[SPEAKER_11]: It's just a whole racism.
[SPEAKER_03]: twenty forty five twenty forty five as a year pasty face white bread honkeys like me become a minority right that's the year that we become a minority white nation and that number twenty forty five is driving so much of the policy and the hatred and the elections that we see right now and again you know i i i i really love hearing these white maga people
[SPEAKER_03]: talk about, well, they should just respect our laws.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love, love hearing about migrants, not respecting the laws of our nation from people who knowingly voted for a felon.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just about the racism.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they wanted the border crossing to stop, they'd start locking up the white people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: All the hiring and they would take these Republicans will never take down the giant help one in sign in our border.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't, because they need the exploitable marginalized labor and they need the racism from that labor
[SPEAKER_03]: to win elections.
[SPEAKER_03]: They could end border crossings in a day without calling a single cop.
[SPEAKER_03]: They won't.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think you've had Tim Miller on your show before I believe I have not had Tim Miller on my show.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, he's I mean, he's he's somebody that's actually he's making his way through doing number of of left-leaning things and.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but but the funny thing is I remember when he was still Mitt Romney's flag and the first time that some of the people on the right.
[SPEAKER_11]: gripped their pearls and caught their breath about Tim Miller because I think he was on CNN and he was talking about immigration and he said because he comes from the libertarian corner of the universe and he said look you really want to stop immigration and then he said almost identically what you just said and they all went
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to stop that you want to be effective just take down the help one It's on you come out there and say that anyone who hires any undocumented immigrant is going to do one year in a federal Pen boom you say don't care if it's a nanny don't care if you're a construction company Don't care if it's some guys at home depot you bring home to help with your yard work anyone hires on you at home depot You get one year in prison.
[SPEAKER_03]: They'll never do it because
[SPEAKER_03]: they don't want the border crossings to really stop.
[SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump has given an amnesty to the entire agricultural sector because he knows that prices of food would jump up substantially if we threw those illegal out of the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, if you want to know how racist they are,
[SPEAKER_03]: I will give $1,000 to anybody you can show me footage.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a check in my wallet ready.
[SPEAKER_03]: For anyone who shows me footage of Meghan Kelly ever calling a white lawbreaker and illegal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Y'all find me one undocumented who's broken more laws confirmed than Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_11]: True.
[SPEAKER_11]: And of course, the annual were white and racist, but we're trying not to be white and racist, holiday is coming up, and of course, by that, I mean, MLK day.
[SPEAKER_11]: Because as we all know, they all tried, we're not really racist, but you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course there's only one MLK court that they know that's the only one that they only one Yeah, yeah, and they have the same hate against him that they had when he was still alive They call him a communist, you know, they I mean I had a pastor writing me all day about MLK being an adulterer and I'm like
[SPEAKER_03]: You literally vote for Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_03]: You literally vote for a man.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, this is private.
[SPEAKER_03]: This guy emailed me I've been like you literally, I mean, I lived in New York City in the 90s.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember man Maybe taking Marla Maples out every night in front of the in front of the paparazzi Just to publicly humiliate the mother of his children
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that MLK had human failings makes his professional and social achievements even greater because he's not a marble statue, he was a flawed man, and he still managed to lead a movement that ended racial segregation and apartheid in this country with zero violence, and they can't stand it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You will never hear these people attacking MLK.
[SPEAKER_03]: attack the institution and culture of racial segregation.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you have anyone in your family talking crap about MLK, just say, but segregation was evil, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really good that MLK helped end segregation with no violence, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And you'll find out where they stand on the moral spectrum.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: That has been, I think, a shock to a lot of more gentle people.
[SPEAKER_11]: We've been using the word ruthless a lot today because
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, you know, vote ruthless because no, it's a vote because we're ruthless as in Ruth Badernaut We're Ruth, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, but I do think and I knew that I love that because there was a whole series of posters that had the the ruthless thing But I do think we need to be ruthless because we are ruthless I mean four years ago at the end of Joe Biden's first year in office
[SPEAKER_03]: We had cut child poverty in half at at 5.3 million jobs managed the most ambitious vaccine rollout in the nation's history.
[SPEAKER_03]: Trump had no plan to get shots in arms.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had already passed a $1.2 trillion investment in water roads, bridges, and broadband.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Dow hit 36K for the first time and Biden had created more jobs in eight months.
[SPEAKER_03]: than George H.W.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bush, George W. Bush, and Trump's first term combined.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where we were a year ago, one year into Biden's second term, when we still had a plague going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, numbers don't lie, friends.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, no, they don't.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that's, but, and that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: People can place being ruthless with being evil and being mean.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it's not.
[SPEAKER_11]: Being ruthless sometimes just means you're not afraid to do the things that have to be done.
[SPEAKER_11]: And you're going to do them even if people don't like it.
[SPEAKER_11]: You just gonna do them.
[SPEAKER_11]: One of the things that I really wish that more of us on our side would do, contact your member of Congress for God's sake and tell them that there is a chance to stop these ice monsters in these DHS monsters.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's right at the end of this month.
[SPEAKER_11]: And you know what if that means we have to shut the government down, then by God shut it down.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Be ruthless about it and say these people are going to learn to behave or we're going to spank their ass and that's how it works.
[SPEAKER_11]: And if you don't like it, suck it.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's how it works.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's being ruthless.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to point out what's the difference between Donald Trump and most of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has no soul.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, the difference is if a guy screams out pedophile protector, most of us don't think that's about us.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of us know he's not talking at us.
[SPEAKER_03]: When a guy screams out pedophile protector and you give him the finger, again, a smart man would have said, a pedophile protector, where?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me arrest him.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have a smart evil guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a dumb evil guy.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: He just stated the absolute 100% truth.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you look at how UAW was supporting him, by the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's inspiring.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really, UAW's statement supporting this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what reminded me of what this reminded me of was when Hillary Clinton was on the debate stage with Tulsi Gabbard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she mentioned a Russian asset.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody else on that stage besides Tulsi was offended.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You mean, Tulsi, who's been left out of the Venezuelan plantings?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, Tulsi, who is pretty much a ghost right now.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, she is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably find her.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Could be great.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's being ruthless is something that Democrats need to get comfortable with.
[SPEAKER_11]: Independence need to get comfortable with it.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you are a...
[SPEAKER_11]: Never Trump or non-Trump Republican for whatever reason be ruthless change or registration You know be ruthless do the right thing and don't apologize for it do it
[SPEAKER_11]: because we need more people on our side to do that because the people who are on their side, they're questioning, hell John, we got a lot of polls.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have a great piece from strengthened numbers in the news on tap today that says literally immigration used to be just a year ago, a 70, 30 issue in favor of Donald Trump, it's now 70, 30 in favor of Democrats, abolish ice is popular more than half of Americans, two thirds of Americans want to say, you know what?
[SPEAKER_11]: There's no way that ice can be reformed.
[SPEAKER_11]: Get rid of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not going to happen, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this Democrats were talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: What Democrats will do?
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, the smartest thing Joe Biden did four years ago, five years ago, and everyone was saying abolish the police.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was he came out and said, no, no, no, folks, no, man, come on, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not abolish the police because Joe Biden's mission was to show middle.
[SPEAKER_03]: independent america that he wasn't that liberal right and you can guarantee any democrat is going to do the same thing they'll say reform ice because they want to put space in between themselves and the liberal thing abolish ice i'm not saying it's right i'm saying this is how they do politics so be ready for it but a lot of of them need to look at the polls and rise you know what abolish ice you get people more on your side by saying that oh listen i want to see roofless the new men's fragrance by jv briskar
[SPEAKER_11]: I would love that too.
[SPEAKER_11]: John, can we have you around for one more round?
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, if you insist.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_11]: How we do?
[SPEAKER_11]: We do.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Our common friend Frank, by the way, had a great post up on Blue Sky.
[SPEAKER_11]: He said, it's kind of interesting.
[SPEAKER_11]: He said, mogul's act and acquiesce to Trump and give him everything he wants.
[SPEAKER_11]: Media elites obediently stay silent when he says, quiet, piggy, it took a working class guy to say Trump's face what he is,
[SPEAKER_03]: the powerful our cowards and I was like we love Frag he's just freaking Frank on if you mean Frank on yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
[SPEAKER_11]: It's the whole thing of it's great to have fun and entertaining people who know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like I generally like Molly John Fast, but I was surprised at the fact that I think was this morning that she asked on social media about She's like, you know, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_11]: All this fraud stuff is kind of bogus coming from that propaganda's jackass who made the video.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: and he was he even he was a pretext because for the last five or six months on the right they've been trying to pull this racist anti-Semali crap yeah on tim walls and their goal was to get tim walls to not run again and congratulations he stepped down thinking that hopefully that would satiate these monsters
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to get Senator Klobuchar, are you idiots?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Governor Klobuchar.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the Treasury last week, the Treasury just announced they're going to open more audits and investigations because there is so much fraud in these Minnesota charities and the Department of Agriculture just cut a $129 million in payments to Minnesota because of widespread fraud and...
[SPEAKER_11]: They're not fraud.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's not fraud there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, hang on, hang on.
[SPEAKER_03]: First off, we have to dispense with the notion that people who vote for Donald Trump care about fraud.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look at the amount of people he's, he's pardoned, convicted of Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Doran and DeGron, Davis, this is Donald Trump's, 26 million dollars in education fraud.
[SPEAKER_03]: He paid $2 million for charity fraud, felony convictions on bank fraud, and insurance fraud.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he had cops beaten on the Capitol's steps to literally defraud American voters.
[SPEAKER_03]: you don't get to pretend you care about fraud and you work with Donald Trump as long as that's the baseline we can go deeper in it because also also by the way wasn't we convicted of 34 counts of fraud that's what i'm talking about yeah but i mean but here's the thing you don't you don't have to buy magas lies admit that in this scenario the government failed this was what happened in Minnesota was an unacceptable breakdown in oversight it was not
[SPEAKER_03]: an immigrant conspiracy or a democratic party plot or proof that social programs don't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what Magga is doing is exploiting real hard to push racism and to defund public services and to long their lives and it allows them to really violate Jesus in so many ways, namely abandoning the poor, abandoning the sick.
[SPEAKER_03]: The main thing to remember, when your racist uncle is talking about all the Samoyans.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was fraud by private contractors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not welfare recipients.
[SPEAKER_03]: Private non-profit operators, not the families receiving aid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, there's zero evidence that shows the beneficiaries receiving the aid.
[SPEAKER_03]: committed any fraud and Trump knows this but he's got to try to say the spy is well fair it wasn't well fair abuse it was contractor fraud and it happens when governments outsource services right I mean he claims that 90% of the fraud was caught by some always that's a lie there's no evidence for that number he made it up
[SPEAKER_03]: collective blame is evil if he had proof each show it but but again like the Minnesota prosecutors did their jobs feeding our future that case that led to convictions for conspiracy for money laundering so that's it's not a cover up it's accountability but the real problem here is and i'll stop preaching about this but it's okay we're like a preaching
[SPEAKER_03]: Throughout the country, U.S. welfare programs rely very heavily on third-party contractors and the Republicans demanded we privatize this, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Privateization of the contractors, but then they defunded oversight.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't want the government doing this business.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want private industry to do it, but they want no oversight.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that invites fraud.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you outsource public services,
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to invest in auditing and the Republicans would do neither Trump doesn't fight fraud.
[SPEAKER_03]: He pardons it over 96% of child care spending is legitimate and what they're doing is making poor family suffer the Somalians in Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_03]: their victims and maga is attacking the very people harm by the fraud because of the color of their skin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Grifters stole from Somali families and now Trump is getting the racist to blame Somali families.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: The media is not talking about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, the media has failed.
[SPEAKER_11]: Joe, you were mentioning that in our first hour, how the media has been failing so badly.
[SPEAKER_11]: Calta, it's, you know, in media, I don't know if you've ever heard it referred to this way, John, it's a stenography.
[SPEAKER_11]: Donald Trump says, instead of, you like his thing with Iran, Donald Trump said, dude, he doesn't know squad about what's going on.
[SPEAKER_11]: You got professionals.
[SPEAKER_11]: who don't know what's going on because it's so so closed off over there but back they're just going with Donald Trump says and I'm like no no no things are happening Donald Trump and his merry band of monsters are retconning whatever happened so it looks like he can get in front of it and I did this so they just so right
[SPEAKER_11]: So it drives, it drives us nuts when the media is not reporting it properly.
[SPEAKER_11]: Media has been and any missed things, too.
[SPEAKER_11]: They missed Claudette Colvin.
[SPEAKER_11]: A lot of them did.
[SPEAKER_11]: Dying.
[SPEAKER_11]: A great success.
[SPEAKER_11]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_11]: They concentrated on Adam, who basically lost most of his business.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I think he's racist.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he really was, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he really was.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I, you know, I hate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't like, I'm not dancing on a guy's grave.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, right, if Scott Adams had called out racism, if Scott Adams had been a guy who devoted his public life to like being anti-bigotry, anti-discrimination, that's what we don't be talking about what died.
[SPEAKER_03]: But instead, we're talking about something else.
[SPEAKER_11]: And you compare that with Claudette Colvin.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was really a reason for Bus Boycotts.
[SPEAKER_11]: But because she was 15 and single in pregnant in the south,
[SPEAKER_11]: they couldn't really use her, but Rosa Parks, we did a whole drink of the day about literally about this last year.
[SPEAKER_11]: And you guys can check it, go to the politicsbar.com, search Rosa Parks or Claudette Colvin, and you can see.
[SPEAKER_11]: But instead of concentrating on Claudette Colvin and the great things that she did is a several rights icon.
[SPEAKER_11]: She's exactly the kind of person
[SPEAKER_11]: that the supposed fraud that these racist maggots are going to have, she's exactly kind of person who could have helped and she made a wonderful, wonderful thing of her life that could have ended horribly.
[SPEAKER_11]: It could have been a whole different story.
[SPEAKER_11]: And you know, she made it that way because people did help her because she did.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly right and that's also why most conservatives that's why most conservatives have no idea who she is and her death went unmentioned on right wing Cable news because they don't know
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're all, they're too busy getting ready to explain why Martin Luther King Jr. was a communist and, and God, the, the, the, we can, we can, we can openly hate MLK day now, those people, I, I love hearing what a terrible adulterer Martin Luther King was from people who voted for Donald Trump, you know, it's just, it's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me more about lawbreakers while you vote for a felon heroes, please.
[SPEAKER_11]: I just, I mean, you know, sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: in some ways them wearing the red hats is like them wearing the white pointy hats at least we can see them coming down the street but my god just just be nice if they just and we have been seeing some of them start to be freaked out by the ice monsters be freaked out by the I'm sure you saw the story about the the kid six months old kid in a car enough car for kids and yeah it's like
[SPEAKER_11]: And even Joe Rogan is like, dude, that's too far.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like, yeah, we told you a long time ago it was too far.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, glad you're, you know, finally at least on that particular thing on the bus.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kristi Known, Kristi Known makes me so ashamed to be an evil plastic surgery addict.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, it used to be like a hip club.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now it's like, you know, it's just awful.
[SPEAKER_03]: well look you know but but you don't shoot dogs and cats she's she's a whole other can you imagine like murdering a dog and having the the native Indian tribes of your state ban you from setting foot on 26% of your state's acreage and you have an adulterous affair with Corey Lewandowski I'm sorry if I'm Christie known I want to have something more evil than all of that on my resume so people don't talk about that stuff
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, no one's going to talk about killing the dog in the first paragraph of her obituary, but they'll talk about the killing of a woman in Minneapolis in the first paragraph of her obituary, and we have to remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kristi Nome and J.D.
[SPEAKER_03]: Vance and Donald Trump have already told so many lines about this murder that there's no way the history books will not record this as a government cover up up in America.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_11]: You actually wrote a really good piece about the Renee Good cover up.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, it's it's we got the link in the guest section in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_11]: The Renee Good cover up arrived before Renee Good's ambulance.
[SPEAKER_11]: I was, so there was a young gentleman in his wife and their dog.
[SPEAKER_11]: In case you missed it, John, I have a new dog in my house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, congratulations.
[SPEAKER_03]: How wonderful.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, his name is Christopher, and he's napping here in the bar next to me.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can tell he's comfortable because he's on his back, pause up, so he already likes the house.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's good.
[SPEAKER_11]: But we had another dog here in the neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the young man who owned him, his wife was a little bit more moderate, but he was a little bit more extreme.
[SPEAKER_11]: And they moved out here beginning of the week.
[SPEAKER_11]: They got a new place.
[SPEAKER_11]: Doug gets a yardier.
[SPEAKER_11]: But the guy, he's right wing.
[SPEAKER_11]: Last time I saw him, he says, hey, this Renee Good thing, this shooting thing, this whatever, you know, well, every referred to it.
[SPEAKER_11]: And we're talking about him.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I said, did you even know that Christy know was calling her a terrorist before she even knew her name?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And he says,
[SPEAKER_11]: No, I hadn't heard that because he gets all his media from my wing sources and he's like, yeah, no, and I said, does that make any sense to you?
[SPEAKER_11]: And he's like, no, at least, I mean, you know, usually they know who it is.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, they have some idea and I said, no, why, and even that just kind of took him back and he's like, well, but, but, but, but maybe the guy and I kind of walked him through the stuff that you and I talked about, Jody, the wheels that you've mentioned, being poignant, got down the conversation and he's like,
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, if nothing else, this doesn't look like it was a clean shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a clear shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: But look at the language they use.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Christy known declared the agent blameless before there was any kind of investigation.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a government cover-up of a murder of a citizen.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we see the video.
[SPEAKER_03]: The SUV is reversing before trying to turn to the right and get away.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why would this woman
[SPEAKER_03]: want to run this guy over.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was her motive?
[SPEAKER_03]: What was her motive for ending her life and running over one ice agent with 20 other ice agents watching?
[SPEAKER_03]: They can just follow her home with their license number and get her.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no motive whatsoever if she wanted to kill the guy she would.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if that's terrorism, she's trying to get away from these masked armed cowards trying to get in her car.
[SPEAKER_03]: If that's terrorism, then what do you call federal
[SPEAKER_03]: to the broad daylight, line on camera, we now call that law enforcement.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, after killing her, the agent who was so terrified for his life, we all know what his first recorded words were.
[SPEAKER_03]: Effing bitch.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, wow, that guy clearly feared for his life, from a calm woman driving away.
[SPEAKER_03]: I barely survived.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, again, normally the Department of Justice's civil rights division would come investigate any time a cop kills a citizen because that's what they do every time a cop kills a citizen
[SPEAKER_11]: because we don't have a real civil rights division anymore.
[SPEAKER_11]: When you won, in her marry band of idiots.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when you watch the video, Ms. Good's wife was mocking this guy's manhood.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's enraged.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this man, baby, had a phone in one hand, and a gun in the other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Show me a better metaphor for America this decade.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, if you're filled with rage, not fear, and your first words after putting three bullets at a woman's face are effing bitch,
[SPEAKER_03]: There are those who would say that sounds like a civil rights violation.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are those who would say like, wow, you seem to have an anger problem with women.
[SPEAKER_11]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_11]: No.
[SPEAKER_11]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the thing that I keep reminding folks, good folks, across the board who are saying, this was wrong, is the folks who are saying, well, we're never going to have accountability.
[SPEAKER_11]: I say, we will.
[SPEAKER_11]: We will.
[SPEAKER_11]: There will be accountability.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's not going to be soon.
[SPEAKER_11]: But it is going to come and if you're that ice monster that guy He's what say he's in his early 30s Let's say he lives another 50 years.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's gonna have to worry about every day for the next 50 years You know what Donald Trump has turned on everyone including sometimes in his own family.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah Donald Trump tomorrow decides that it benefits him more He will put the full weight of the government and stop this ice guy flat and now the ice guy has to be worried
[SPEAKER_03]: every day for the next 50 years about being convicted of murder and you know what good good for help and by the way he should be more concerned with in the afterlife when he goes before St. Peter and here's the words f***ing bitch look look look look look look look I 100% that's the I that's the way I think St. Peter should actually I mean Donald Trump's gonna spend the afterlife hearing people call him quiet piggy so you know get ready close
[SPEAKER_03]: Carma swings two ways.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you guys so much for having me How did you return today too?
[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, we know we know we know you got to go because we know you got a couple things going on over its Series X and who you got on an I job?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know we're taping our Martin Luther King holiday special a bit early right now So because we're gonna be on tape on Monday because I'll be an LA writing the next book So thank you guys so much for having me
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[SPEAKER_11]: Good luck on the book.
[SPEAKER_11]: Obviously have a great show this evening.
[SPEAKER_11]: And of course, you guys should always listen to John when you get the chance series XM evenings.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, you guys can come here hang with us and go hang with John actually works out really well, especially if you're like in the East Coast.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe listen to John first.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We'll send Travis here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will see you tomorrow on what's your name show and it's great to see you both.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Hi, John, have a good evening, buddy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bye-bye.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We have one more, actually.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I always I love coming to the bar and hanging out with you, Jodie, but man, this this week is definitely taxed both of us.
[SPEAKER_11]: You obviously do a step show, although you guys have been doing great.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's it has been fun listening to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love Bella here at the power of Christo Christo too is that she's the father's greener.
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[SPEAKER_11]: to go.
[SPEAKER_11]: Today, by the way, on the news on tap, which hopefully you guys have subscribed at the politicsbar.com, there are a few things, obviously, that we have, are actually just talking about this.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right way, you're extremists.
[SPEAKER_11]: The anti-abortion extremists are pushing the Senate bill.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, so remember when we were talking about the ACA subsidies deal with Jared the other day.
[SPEAKER_11]: And he said that he'd heard the same thing that I'd heard.
[SPEAKER_11]: which is good because we don't always have the same sources up on capital.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's the senators are still trying to put this clutch of not just a straight extension of the ACA, but this other thing out there.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the right wing extreme anti-abortion folks have basically taken a gigantic poop all over this alternative plan and just like a dirty diaper rub that whole thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can vote for this turd of a plan, or you can vote for what the house sent over, which is just, you know, the three-year extension, which Timmy Kane, my senator is just, he says he's going to put it up and I'm, I'm damn hoping he follows through, but he's ruthless about following through.
[SPEAKER_11]: And, you know, look, that's, that's what we need to be.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then say, look, you can vote for the turd.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can vote for this and fix the problems later.
[SPEAKER_11]: My, my that is they will, but today, by the way, is the last day that for in a lot of states, we've it's 40 states that you can get your ACA plan.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you haven't already, some states have different extensions, check ACA signups.net, the site of our friend Charles Gabbah.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you guys have any questions on that, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look, if they end up signing this bill, they'll do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: Remember when Congress did during Biden Harris, during the first year, and they had to pass the extra bill, and they passed these subsidies in, and then they had to adjust to the time scales and everything?
[SPEAKER_11]: The states all figured that out already.
[SPEAKER_11]: They did that just in case any state or any federal thing changed the way that the ACA subsidies work.
[SPEAKER_11]: So they have the mechanisms built in already.
[SPEAKER_11]: This isn't, I mean, yeah, it's more paperwork.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's going to be kind of a little bit of a pain in the ass, but it's health insurance.
[SPEAKER_11]: Health insurance is always a pain in the ass.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's always pay for work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Millions of people have yet to sign back up.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, what is it now down now?
[SPEAKER_11]: I think we had that yesterday down 1.4% and mostly in quote-unquote red mostly in Republican Because they need the money because they're well, it's good.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right, but but but this is just the people who have self reported who have said that they're not buying it because they can't afford it That doesn't include all the people who aren't gonna be out of renewing is it's I mean
[SPEAKER_11]: But the numbers of people who will actually, if they don't get this fixed, is going to be, it's going to be big.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: So I am just, I don't know, I look at all of this and I am constantly surprised at how many people are not informed.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I wish more people were better.
[SPEAKER_11]: I wish more people would sign up for the newsletter, the news on tap, but we put out.
[SPEAKER_11]: So they can be better informed about things like the ACA subsidies.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's frustrating.
[SPEAKER_11]: I know I know you print out a lot of stuff at stuff.
[SPEAKER_11]: She doesn't.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think she kills as many trees as we used to on Randy show.
[SPEAKER_01]: But she's kills a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we do tend not all the time, but every now and then we'll.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll turn them over so we reuse the same sheets of paper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like certainly when I sit in for her and Chris sends me stuff and I print it here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Double-sided.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't do double-sided because that's too difficult.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I'll do is I'll do single-sided, take them back home and then when he sends me stories for the next day, I use that same sheets of paper just over.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: That makes sense.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it doesn't end up being double-sided.
[SPEAKER_11]: Just none of us.
[SPEAKER_11]: It does.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look, there are lots of things that we can do.
[SPEAKER_11]: That is a small thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: But yet there are seven and a half, roughly almost 8 billion people I think, or maybe there are 8 billion people on the planet.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm talking about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: But, but imagine if every person on the planet, yes, I know they stop making penny shut up.
[SPEAKER_11]: But if every person on the planet gave us a penny, I mean, holy hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that being a joke and change.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it would be really hard to put in those little things to take to the bank.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the time.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, they're the roles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have to do that or they don't take the money.
[SPEAKER_11]: They don't take the money.
[SPEAKER_11]: They have the things we used to have one of those before the fire in 2008, where you can put it in and it puts, I had those when I was a kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had one of those when I was a kid.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, those are kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, you just find a play with, but yeah, real pain in the blood.
[SPEAKER_11]: But still, I mean, if people, you know, look, if you can get 8 billion people to send us a penny, I'd be happy with that, just say.
[SPEAKER_11]: So, you know, small change can make a big difference.
[SPEAKER_11]: But you have to be, you have to be firm about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: You have to be not to overuse the word which we've used today as ruthless about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then of course you have the opposite of ruthless.
[SPEAKER_11]: You have waffling and stupid.
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you hear about this one?
[SPEAKER_11]: The Trump HHS under RFK Jr terminated then reinstated less than 24 hours, thousands of grants, millions of dollars for substance use and mental health.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to kill us all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_01]: people will die because of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: People are going to die.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, and they've already, there have already been deaths because of the kind of crap that they pulled with USAID.
[SPEAKER_11]: There have been, I mean, they're yanking it around.
[SPEAKER_11]: Part of the reason they yank the stuff around is that they want people to get mad and overreact so they can come down on them.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's what they're trying to do, obviously, many apples with these ice monsters.
[SPEAKER_11]: With some of these, we know
[SPEAKER_11]: And look, if you're smart, especially for Minneapolis now, sun is down.
[SPEAKER_11]: Congratulations.
[SPEAKER_11]: Stop.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go home.
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you like we used to do when we were kids?
[SPEAKER_11]: When the street lights come on, you get your hands on.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, this is just makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And lock your doors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't open the door unless somebody's got a warrant.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, God, have you seen some of those videos of these ice monsters going through the neighborhood, knocking on the doors and the
[SPEAKER_01]: up in Minneapolis?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you heard about the door-dash person that was hiding in somebody's home?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: How in Frank of that?
[UNKNOWN]: God.
[SPEAKER_11]: I saw one video where Guy was was Ice Monster was not kind of a door in this manga.
[SPEAKER_11]: I had his gun.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: And remind him said, I have a second amendment right.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is my property.
[SPEAKER_11]: Get off my property.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the ice guy was suddenly like, oh, oh, okay, I guess I'll go.
[SPEAKER_11]: But if I have the right to be here, he's like, no, you don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're trespassing.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're trying to stir stuff up.
[SPEAKER_11]: Really glad that for all those people wherever you're protesting and whatever you're doing to help don't take the bait right or fry was right on that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Do not take the bait.
[SPEAKER_11]: And for whatever, whatever you do and just know that there are there are more of us.
[SPEAKER_11]: it's just this is scary.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is scary.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is tough, but we got to be tough.
[SPEAKER_11]: We are tough.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, we made it through one regime of this jackass.
[SPEAKER_11]: We made it through one year of this other jackass, same jackass just different time, but still.
[SPEAKER_11]: We're tough.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's not always fun.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's fun when we get a hangout with you guys here at the bar.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, it's fun.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's fun if you're hanging out over at the Stephanie Miller show or, you know, over with the John Fugelsang or at the Bob Cesca show.
[SPEAKER_01]: You mean Mr. Mrs. Cesca's show?
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_11]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_01]: Stephanie Sheska.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she's a... Stephanie Sheska.
[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, she's married to Bob.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was news to both of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys missed that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob posted about it on his blue sky today.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was an AI Google thing that said that they were married.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is why you don't let AI, especially just any AI.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you're looking for basic facts, do not let the AI find those facts.
[SPEAKER_11]: Please.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: The fact that, I mean, there's so many things in there.
[SPEAKER_11]: You got the whole Bob and Kimberly thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: Then you have the fact that Stephanie's lesbian thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: Then you have the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's somebody did post, Bob.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a thing to tell you about your wife.
[SPEAKER_01]: You might want to, you know, think about this.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look, Bob is handsome.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm a heterosexual man.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I will admit that Bob Sesska is a handsome man.
[SPEAKER_11]: But Stephanie Miller, while she loves Bob, but not like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: the hell.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is why we don't just let technology run rampant.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's one of the reasons why I really wish that they got more of a hold on technology.
[SPEAKER_11]: Miss this one, it was I didn't get it in the entertainment thing today, but McConaughey decided to copyright
[SPEAKER_11]: his alright alright alright phrase, so that it can be blocked from being used in abused by AI.
[SPEAKER_11]: Good.
[SPEAKER_11]: Which I'm like, look that is a smart way, that is being ruthless in your use of copyright laws to say, oh, oh, that is one of my favorite lines and it's a great movie too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Alright, alright, alright.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, you know, basically, I think he's worried about them using his actual voice doing it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Versus you and me doing it because it should be his name and likeness and voice and everything should be protected.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look, that's his job.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's what he does.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's what actors do.
[SPEAKER_11]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look.
[SPEAKER_11]: I get that that it may be easier sometimes to just ask Google, ask Siri, ask chat, GPT, whatever it is, but there is value in doing your own homework and value in finding the facts out and doing it yourself.
[SPEAKER_11]: There really is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did a Google thing on just my name.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were right that I'm married to Lonnie, but they conflated me with my little sister.
[SPEAKER_11]: You guys are not the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, first of all, if I don't have children, so there is that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you have cats, but I mean, I don't have human children, one who just turned 29 and the other one who's 19.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it lists those two.
[SPEAKER_01]: It lists some issues that she's had and it's public knowledge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some issues that she's had with her youngest son.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, not me.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look, doing things the right way pays.
[SPEAKER_11]: It really does.
[SPEAKER_11]: It doing your homework being smart, taking care of your community, being a government worker, being an ice agent.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you're an ice, if you work at ice in DHS and you do things the right way, that pays too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Just do things the right way.
[SPEAKER_11]: So tomorrow, do we know what's going on with Anita and Karen?
[SPEAKER_01]: We definitely have Karen.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're waiting on Anita.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, we will find out about that.
[SPEAKER_11]: We will talk about that tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, by the way, also next week.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have Paula Powell Stone and Phil.
[SPEAKER_11]: It.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do on Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's going to be it.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's way, heck of a good.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, of course, we got some other guests next week too.
[SPEAKER_11]: So look, tomorrow we will be here.
[SPEAKER_11]: Karen will be here.
[SPEAKER_11]: Hopefully, you need it will be as well.
[SPEAKER_11]: Hopefully, you guys will be here as well.
[SPEAKER_11]: So look, go home, get some extra sleep.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then we'll see you here tomorrow night Friday night at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_11]: Have a good one, y'all.