[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to the very special episode.
[SPEAKER_06]: So say they're podcasts.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it bad etiquette to start a podcast off with a video?
[SPEAKER_06]: Seems like like shitty, like a shitty thing to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: I found a really cool video.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, actually read it, delivered it to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: I said, and you don't find shit on the internet.
[SPEAKER_06]: A billion dollar company delivers it to you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Serves it to you.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then we serve it to you.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we'll just go describe it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Did you watch it?
[SPEAKER_06]: Nigel John, pull it up on Nigel.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so it's it's it's seven point.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's an earth quake.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's an earth quake in me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Me and mom.
[SPEAKER_06]: Something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and it's the most insane earthquake footage I have ever seen from like a security camera.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's in front of it looks like a really nice kind of house-gagated yard, the 7.9 and there's like a normal earthquake.
[SPEAKER_06]: But halfway into it, like a second and another earthquake, the entire right side of the screen shifts, like 10 feet, like literally everything as far as you can see, like this is imagine imagine the ground shakes, it's an earthquake and then your neighbor's house and like everything along like the line where the fault was is now 10 feet away, like what do you see it?
[SPEAKER_07]: Wow, like that's a bit of a power line off of the distance fell over, too.
[SPEAKER_06]: So like when I was a kid, I lived through the Northridge earthquake, because my parents lived in LA and that I don't remember at all.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I was going through VHS tapes and if anybody doesn't know the Northridge earthquake was like the yeah, it was like the, you know, maybe there have been bigger ones, but like for the time being it's like the
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, for everybody that's still alive in California.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, what's our JFK?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it the Twin Towers?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, what's sort of a thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and it, it's like, overpasses collapsed, which is crazy, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I found it overpassed.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's something we made.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're the ground, the entire ground, we should put a link to the video in the description of the podcast.
[SPEAKER_06]: Did you watch it again?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just move.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the entire, imagine like a neighborhood and then like, there's a line, like drawing a imaginary line and everything just moves 10 feet.
[SPEAKER_06]: You see the power, the power line, like the power tower, what do they call this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do they call this?
[SPEAKER_06]: Power, uh, uh, power pole, but it's not a pole.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just a pole.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know, let's call the power tutor.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's got to be a name, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: There is a name, uh, uh, uh, power tower.
[SPEAKER_07]: I like power tower.
[SPEAKER_06]: Power tower.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you can, like the power tower moves in a way that you should never see anything that tall move.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, there was a skyscraper, the entire skyscraper would have just moved 10 feet.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and, well, the bottom of it would have moved 10 feet.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then the top of it would still be, it would be like, whoa.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would move a couple hundred feet.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would start like waving around.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's the quarter circle?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but it just made me think like, because I don't remember that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, I, I, I was saying I found like a VHS tape, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: So my dad, um, was like a reserve deputy, like police officer at the time.
[SPEAKER_06]: And, uh, he has, he had just footage that he filmed on our home camera.
[SPEAKER_06]: As he was like going around doing stuff when the whole town is like destroyed.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't remember, but they gave out, I think like the Anaheiser Bush, their the bottling facility, like they like switched to water.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe they always keep a water supply if canned water.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they like start distributing.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it almost like turned into a thrilled country for like a couple of months.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, probably like a week was like chaos.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so like, what else happened during that earthquake?
[SPEAKER_07]: Was it like gas lines were all broken water lines broken?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, or lines?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the lounge.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know exactly, but it was, but it was, it was basically, we're camping.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, we're almost camping.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which, like, seeing from some like the video footage that my parents have, it almost was kind of nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can I say that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because we'll have many people died.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that means okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's probably not that high.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was like, well, there are people driving off the like collapsed overpasses and stuff like because they didn't Just driving and they didn't see that the road was gone.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but kind of remind how many 50 seven.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's a lot.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's yeah, for the whole for that big one.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that seems like probably reasonable.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but like as far as natural disasters go, yeah, it's a lot.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a lot.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, like hurricanes, only a few people.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe like 10 people die in a normal hurricane, maybe.
[SPEAKER_06]: But imagine like, like, overpasses gone on active freeways.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you could totally even just like one big overpass, you could easily 50 people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Imagine you're driving on the overpass and it shifts over 10 feet and the cars are just kind of like still floating there Yeah, and then they I don't know like You're like totally free after a second, but the kind of almost like community vibe like the camping It was like I was like a block party, but because everything was like messed up people almost were Just hanging out
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's how it is after Hurricane too.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like it's kind of fun for like the first day or two.
[SPEAKER_07]: But then the power's not on by day like two or three.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, running out of water.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's humid as heck out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, what that reminds me a bit of, um, I just talked about the other day in I think it was 1999 in Montreal.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had an ice storm.
[SPEAKER_00]: All Wikipedia pages.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I saw 99, I saw 99 North American ice storm, 34 fatalities.
[SPEAKER_00]: It basically shut the entirety of Montreal down.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for two weeks, we had no power, but outside was just glass.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember as a kid, I loved it because it was a camping with my family, but it's like my dad had a generator.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, two weeks.
[SPEAKER_05]: No power.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was free.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's freezing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was actually like difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's like, so my, all my cousins, so my aunt uncle and then my cousins and then my grandparents all stayed with us because my dad had a generator, so we were able to at least have like a bit of power and you know, cook things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was 1998 actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I was like eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I remember it was fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I remember you got side.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I don't know if you ever see photos or videos of when like big freezing rain hits and like the trees, the branches are like touching the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so way down with the dice.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: It snaps all the branches and they hit all the power lines.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like your life is just to go out in certain places because you'd be driving and in certain places there'd just be live power lines on the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, oh yeah, don't wanna go by that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it took them weeks to get everything just fixed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What but as a kid it was amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were like camping and I was like man if I was in a adult, I'd be we had an ice storm here last year and we lost power for like a few days and I was like man if this was one of for two weeks, I'd be so mad.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what we had solar.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was kind of nice and Florida.
[SPEAKER_06]: We could transition to talk about more solar.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, there's been no updates.
[SPEAKER_07]: Another have Florida.
[SPEAKER_07]: It would be nice to have solar.
[SPEAKER_07]: When the hurricane takes out all the utility
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wait, is it called a utility pole?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Power pole?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, the utility poles like up.
[SPEAKER_00]: What they put the phone stuff on, I thought.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like a transformer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Same thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Power pole, utility pole.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they high powered towers?
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, I looked as if I'm right at it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we aren't the only ones that don't know exactly what to call them.
[SPEAKER_07]: So like the big metal ones.
[SPEAKER_07]: I like Pylon, I like power tower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our tower is six.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: A utility power tower.
[SPEAKER_07]: Totally referred to as a transmission pole telephone pole telecommunications pole power pole hydro pole telegraph pole telegraph post.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Demia utility pole or utility thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're usually wood, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like just those wooden things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would say that's like kind of the bottom of the barrel description of utility pole.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they do carry the power to your house.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like, you know, it's the final stretch power poles.
[SPEAKER_06]: Definitely something no like yeah, I think what what is the like when you're driving on like the highway and there's like not the huge one not the Pilons but like normal one where it's like what is how many volts is that like you said 30,000, 60,000 probably I think like 22 22 So I think that probably once you go 27 something like once you go above that then you price are getting different different power structures, but I
[SPEAKER_06]: You're earliest memory because I don't remember the Northridge was quick.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I would John, what year was that?
[SPEAKER_06]: 90, 94.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I would have been like three to a three.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't have really any memories that I can like pinpoint.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you know, you know, are you like you can't, yes, differentiate between like media and reality with your memories because I think I have like one memory, I have one, I don't even know if I should share this one memory.
[SPEAKER_06]: This one's pretty bad, not that bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of, I mean, it's funny, you know, maybe maybe we cut it out if it's bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not that bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: And, but like my sort of like the earliest earliest memory I can think of is
[SPEAKER_06]: like an image of the kitchen and I don't know if that has been like reinforced by like a photo or something but I like there's like something about like that liminal 1990s kitchen like not like not really even
[SPEAKER_06]: like an actual thing memory, like a thing happening, but just sort of like being in the kitchen.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I don't know if there's like a sentience moment that happened right then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just like.
[SPEAKER_00]: So my question is, is your, you're describing, do you remember an image?
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember like a setting like either something I don't know describe it where it's like you see a picture and and I think I'm too far away from it now But like I can't tell if it was like a picture in that picture just immediately just like What like there was a thing like of like being in I don't know it was very long.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you live in that house for maybe four years?
[SPEAKER_07]: from like what ages born to four or three, maybe.
[SPEAKER_07]: So can you remember anything else about the house?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like if you walked through, I remember when you had kind of kind of, I think I remember like the staircase kind of felt like it was in the middle of the house next to the front door.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do have another one where I had like built like a tunnel under my bed with my crap under the bed.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like I would be like, I would go under the bed.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because back then you were small enough to like fit under the back.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and yeah, and the room was carpeted.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember like hiding from my grandma or something like that, but that's because like I smashed my face when I was younger.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like on a chair and the like, you know, you can take chairs out of a van.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't know if they still do that, but like a lot of cars bigger utility cars.
[SPEAKER_06]: You could like take the entire like row of seats out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so we would take it out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes my parents had this astro van, like basically kind of a more family windowless van kind of, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like leaning on it and it tipped over and I like base planted in the concrete.
[SPEAKER_06]: My nose disappeared.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember at all.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I mean, it's because I hit my head really hard enough to like completely like my nose is flat to my face.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like I seen pictures of that of my nose flat, but like I don't remember it.
[SPEAKER_06]: ah, but I like remember the bad, oh, you know the one thing I do remember this one is there's like like depositories for kids for to make them poop.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you call that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Really?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: I remember they like, yeah, they're like, um, like gel capsules.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember they were like sticks.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were like little white sticks.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's something like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: For if you like weren't put, you were like constipated.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: They call that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if they still do that anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember it's that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I thought I had some traumatic memories.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't like explicitly remember.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just remember like not liking those things.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember a lot.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, how old are you when
[SPEAKER_07]: four or five yeah I remember that I remember like being in kindergarten and like with a classroom looked like I even remember the preschool earlier than that though I remember preschool having to like sleep on mats but just like that one memory and then I remember the playground looks like really yeah how how does like some stuff literally preschool how old were you for preschool I
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe what's he like a glycerin, but it's yeah, it's good.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I remember a lot, I just can't place it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I can place those because I know that like, oh, at this, I must have been this age during this memory.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because it's at school, which is like a yeah, which place it was.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's that's the earliest.
[SPEAKER_07]: What would that be like because kindergarten would be four I think unless war I mean, I don't know I don't know what would be earlier because I don't have a frame of reference, but I have a lot of memories, you know, being a kid doing things.
[SPEAKER_06]: They call my mom enough like hanging out under the deck, you know, imaginary phrases.
[SPEAKER_00]: It says two.
[SPEAKER_00]: What, preschool is like the average for kindergarten?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just no, just to remember things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was too.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just what I think in my head.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you remember?
[SPEAKER_00]: But what I was going to say was, was interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like my memory was just in my parents house.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had this big black TV stand thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And on the side below the TV, there'd be like stuff in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And at the time, it was just like photos, like albums, and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember my mom had it open and I walked over because she wanted me to look at a photo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably of like me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the photo was.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's funny because I always view that as like my earliest memory, but as I was thinking about it now, I. I didn't just like only remember that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I thought stuff before I remembered that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's right, like I was thinking stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: while walking to the, to see the photo.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember that I did have a thought, but I don't have an image for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I only have an image for when, like, I saw the photo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also don't remember what the, I don't remember what the photo was.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, so there was like a little bit of,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the visual, I guess storage started a little bit after the, uh, the thought storage or something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but it's weird because it's like it's not like you, it's not like that was your first memory.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like for some whatever reason, like that's the only thing that like stuck.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because like when you were, when you were 10, did you remember stuff when you were two and then when you're 20, you don't remember stuff when you're too anymore, like, is that I don't think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think the other thing is like, if you, if I were to like, if I were to basically be able to make it so that you can't remember anything, right, yeah, it's like you don't remember anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you have no functional memory at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you could argue like do you even exist because you don't know you really don't know what's going on if you can't remember anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm going to come in mom really cook it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to ask.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like it's the same thing as a kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not really consolidating those memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're still existing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like because you can't remember it, you feel like you didn't exist.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, Mom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_06]: We're talking about our earliest memories and one of mine was when I when we were living in Santa Clarita that you guys had these like suppository sticks that that tell like if I was constipated you remember that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of vaguely.
[SPEAKER_06]: What were those?
[UNKNOWN]: What were those?
[SPEAKER_03]: What those were just to help things slide out a little bit better.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but what what was it?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, because I remember it looked like a hot glue stick.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like a suppository, bend over, sneak it up.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was, how big was it actually?
[SPEAKER_06]: How long had I not poo for?
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, I'm in knowing you.
[UNKNOWN]: It was probably like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got like four days or something.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my God, that's not so bad.
[SPEAKER_07]: So you're saying a hot glue stick, but in reality, maybe it was alive.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, that could be bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me some more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, actually, I don't, but I mean, it wasn't that big thing to get them in there, so, okay, I've been not big, maybe you just said it in front of me.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: You're welcome, son.
[UNKNOWN]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're welcome, son.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, sir.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks.
[UNKNOWN]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think there's like some like a shared memory.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, is it trauma?
[SPEAKER_06]: What is the, what is the, yeah?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, probably.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and you're imagining it to be a lot bigger than it was, because it was probably somewhat traumatic.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think there's, I think I'm forgetting my, you know what, like, I didn't like talking about this now like refreshing old memories of like getting your mouth washed out with soap, too.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, getting my, I don't know what to brush teeth brush maybe, maybe there's something now I'm like remembering a thing and I don't even know how to describe the thing like.
[SPEAKER_06]: And sort of as the mask or something, it was yellow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Dude, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_06]: Brains are weird.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I, well, I moved, um, we lived in one house from zero to two and then we moved into like the house that I lived in for the next like 10 or 12 years and I kind of remember the front yard of the first house I remember a bush I think I remember being in a bush and that's all I remember just that I couldn't tell you what the inside looked like, but I can of the bush of the house of the house.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was a babysitter, maybe a babysitter, okay, um, and uh, this is like, I don't even, I don't even, I don't even know how old I would have been, like, maybe two or three, and I remember that she was Hispanic and she asked if I wanted to talk a milk and then show me your boob.
[SPEAKER_06]: Whoa, that's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I said no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, were you, you were a victim?
[SPEAKER_00]: As a kid, what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe she actually just thought you were like, I don't know, hungry.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, she's just like we're just like how would you say you were again?
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Think about just let's play the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's play the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine this was a male saying the same thing to you Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying it's good.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you shouldn't do that I don't do Don't do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's just kids being kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I must probably like I don't even know I don't even have a frame of references like that's what yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't even maybe
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, on the other end of that spectrum, well, wait, wait, wait, can you repeat the story?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I might have missed and interpreted it.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, I think that means you didn't interpret it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay, so like a babysitter just like a girl in the neighborhood that would like watch me sometimes in my sister.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wait, so how old was she?
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can imagine this, like, I'm trying to put myself in the mindset and I, I could only imagine this being like a teenager.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's still very weird middle school exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is very weird.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I don't I don't remember I don't really remember what I remember other than just I think like the reason I remember it is the fact that I was like, Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_07]: The next probably like five years of your life being like
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, really though.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't have ever forget that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I remember very little other than the like, like, whatever, whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: You probably said something at one point and your mom's like, brushed it off.
[SPEAKER_07]: We talking about.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you pointed another Hispanic woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: She has chocolate milk and your mom's like, Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyways, that's my youngest weird memory.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, the other end of that spectrum, our babysitter was she lived next door.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was, uh, one of my friends older sisters.
[SPEAKER_07]: She must have been middle school or high school.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we tighter up in the basement.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like actually, yeah, with like duct tape or something, they have like these structural supports that come down from their basement.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, our basement, my basement, like down to the floor, like a metal pole, it's like four inches around.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know, I think she was like going along with it, like, oh no, like my brother, and, you know, my brother are tying her up.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we like did just kept going.
[SPEAKER_07]: How do you guys?
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I probably like, uh, six and four.
[SPEAKER_06]: Was she pissed?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's some point for you guys.
[SPEAKER_07]: At some point, yeah, she was like, she was mad.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do kids are like, kids are sort of insane.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I just, I remember, like, if kids were adults, our shit would be fucked.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like you kids were the size of adults.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, or like like if adults behave like children like there's I just remember there's just like all sorts of insane almost like gang it's like non non weaponized games
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's tons and grenades.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would be, they would do, it would be so bad.
[SPEAKER_07]: Imagine every kid woke up tomorrow with a hand grenade.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, like it would be apocalyptic.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what it sounds like.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the only reason you survived childhood is because like most children are weak and they don't have access to weapons.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the impulse control and like the violence and aggression is like off the chart.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, I mean, it's not like all the time, but I just something there is like a packed mentality though the kids have totally like just a little monkey like a pat.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like a pack of wild monkeys.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, just like I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: They like you up and steal your bananas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like vandalize your shit, like I just, you know, I mean, oh, yeah, we would do as a kid, nothing horrible, but like, you're like, I would never do anything like, like, dry, I spawned with their dry spots and yeah, I think don't ditching people.
[SPEAKER_06]: I phone calls.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: But even like, just kids on kids, like the sort of just how me.
[SPEAKER_07]: We, yeah, we had some some prank that we would do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, but first I just remembered we, the reason that we tied her up is because my dad tied my brother with duct tape to that same pole.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like a cocoon.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you're like, okay, yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, okay, but our bad idea was we would pretend to hold the string on either side of the road.
[SPEAKER_07]: So when we saw car coming, we would unspool the string and then when the car got close, we would both on either side of the road, like pretend to pull a tie.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's a classic.
[SPEAKER_07]: And get cars to stop, and some people would get so pissed.
[SPEAKER_07]: They would get out of their car and chase us.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's so silly, too, because they're in this thing that's basically unstoppable.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, just hit the road and they would see like the whole point of it is is you have enough time to do go through this whole action.
[SPEAKER_07]: You see a car coming.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: So they see you.
[SPEAKER_07]: They see you doing something in the road.
[SPEAKER_07]: They have plenty of time to stop.
[SPEAKER_07]: They mostly stop.
[SPEAKER_07]: you know, and then they would get mad.
[SPEAKER_07]: How old are you then?
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe like seven eight.
[SPEAKER_07]: We would also take duct tape and we would put like a big loop of it on the road and we would put like the snappers, the that's snapper pop.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, fireworks on it.
[SPEAKER_07]: So when the car hit it, they would hear a pop and then
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it works really good.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's a really funny funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Yeah, I was gonna say a reminder me of I we did that too, which is terrible but we I remember it was in my elementary school We were building snowman
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know when it's like after school trip, I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we were just building a bunch of snowman and then eventually someone was like, oh, we'll build one in the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's funny because like, there's parents around.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone just thought it was kind of funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we built a, we built a full snowman and then this random dude, he's driving down the street.
[SPEAKER_00]: He stops his car and he goes, hey, get out of the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, do you want me to destroy the snowman and all the kids are like, yeah, he's like, and the parents too were like, they're like, yeah, like, yo, he's going to do it to the guys like, okay, everyone back up, I'm going to run it over.
[SPEAKER_00]: He like, it's in a school zone so he doesn't floor it, but he probably goes like 95 at least twice the, you know, he goes like probably like twice the limit of like a school zone so he goes like pretty fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he like stops pretty quickly and you hear some parents go, ooh, he gets out.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh my god, dude, it's because it was all.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like icy snow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was very heavy and he didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when he hated it, he just dented his hood in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just corrupt.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just like I don't remember I've ever been like not even mad.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like yep That's I I really don't know what I was expecting He's like snow was the snow was really heavy wasn't it ever was like guys like no one warned me I'm gonna match it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like well He's like it is what it is and he just said have a good day everyone in the left Having the parents are like this poor man just come like a thousand
[SPEAKER_06]: It's better than like if it had been taller and like the head like separate and like goes to the match No, it's shield.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's what I thought was the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I thought it was going But it was just so buddy like literally got like a thousand dollars worth of damage his hood was all crumpled in his cars messed up
[SPEAKER_06]: I had a friend or guy, he got in trouble for throwing water balloons at cars and like Darwin was really surprising because I was like thinking to myself, you know, when that happened, that like, you're really stupid.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not because you got caught, but because you're just like standing
[SPEAKER_06]: Side of the Red Dog, waterblins of cars like what the fuck do you think is going to happen?
[SPEAKER_06]: First of all, is that even fun doing waterblins of cars for a kid?
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but like like just standing on the side of the Red is like probably middle school is like late elementary school and then like throwing a waterblin at the car like what?
[SPEAKER_06]: What?
[SPEAKER_06]: Where in where in your head was that going?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well
[SPEAKER_06]: Like an overpass, at least it's hard for them to like, get off and get back around.
[SPEAKER_07]: But just on the side of the road.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: We did that with sling shots and and paint balls.
[UNKNOWN]: Mmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we did that with snowballs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, everything's snowballs.
[SPEAKER_06]: It feels fine, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: The paintballs.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, they're icy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we couldn't damage them.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it was kind of, there was like a fence and then like a big, grassy part and then the road.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, and we were trying to hit the cars as they drove like perpendicular to us.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, we would just have to like shoot a bunch of paintballs and maybe we would hit one car.
[SPEAKER_06]: This made me think of just all the terrible things.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is like a rush of terrible things he did as a child.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember one time we took like the nut off of this kid's bike, off the front wheel.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like, it didn't like go and so they like, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's like you basically cut his brake line.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you cut the the brake line.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is arguably worse than cutting the brake line.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't, all I remember was we got a bunch of trouble and then nothing really happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is good.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think everybody in the comments listening to this needs to put down like what their childhood pranks were and what yeah, what are some bad things you've done.
[SPEAKER_07]: What's the worst thing you ever did?
[SPEAKER_07]: And we'll rank you guys next episode.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's the worst?
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's getting cool for Christmas?
[SPEAKER_06]: Get up.
[SPEAKER_06]: I killed my family.
[SPEAKER_06]: God.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nigel, did you ever get in trouble for anything?
[SPEAKER_07]: Reckless?
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_07]: Nigel was born with a fully developed prefrontal cortex.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I remember, this is the only, so I think every kid did like dumb stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like yeah, we threw snowballs at things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dumb crossing into like evil though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of remembered like it's hard to remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got one in the meantime, but I was going to see the only time that sticks out to me as like getting caught and getting in trouble because like, you know, all the other times I got away after think about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ones I got caught, but the one I've this was just like a crime of opportunity my friend there's a local plaza near.
[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up so we'd go there all the time when my friend and I were walking back from a further away mall and so we stopped there to go to the bathroom, so whatever we stopped there to go to the bathroom and on the way out to head back to my house we just saw like a pile of tiles.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And just a pile, like a stack of tiles.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, friends, like, yo, let's just smash some tile.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we just picked up tiles and just threw them on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I remember we had like a couple as we walked away, just threw them over our shoulders.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then just kind of like jogged away.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we went around, we went around the parking lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're walking through the parking lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember just he, I don't remember he said it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They remember just walking and hearing something behind us.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't remember what he looks like.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like some scruffy old like they're the classic like how a scruffy old janitor looks in a show Like long hair in his kind of scruffy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He grabbed both of both me and my friends fly our collar and lifted us off off the ground
[SPEAKER_00]: 11 at a time and he's just he just like we're on our tippy toes and he just heard a yelling at us Oh, that's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like screaming at us.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he said.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just swearing.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was scary.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I was terrified I'm ready to fight her
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say, I was in high school, my friend, I think we were in grade seven or yeah, they were grade seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like 12.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like scared.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went silent.
[SPEAKER_00]: My friend was a fighter and just started yelling back at him.
[SPEAKER_00]: So guys just swearing at us, saying all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my friend just went full denial.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he was just like, whatever, just started insulting him.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he just like, get your hands up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ugly.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he's
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, why are you touching kids like just screaming at him?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy is like, you broke like whatever and he's like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I didn't break anything like you see.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he said, see and I was like, you ugly like moron.
[SPEAKER_00]: I started screaming at the guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just pretend like he has no idea what he's talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy actually let us down and he was like, oh, oh, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were, I thought.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the denial actually he like second guest himself and just let us go But I was I was just paralyzed.
[SPEAKER_00]: But my friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just He he fought for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: He and he he won that Nigel's the you made the guy back there fight or flight or freeze I guess I was pretty Dude
[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine you're walking, you hear something you turn around and just a giant dude grabs you by your collar and lifts you up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even what was happening for a second.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think Nigel's friend just took over and Nigel didn't even have a chance to react because his friends like, I don't say anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I literally was like, I just made that noise.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, my friend wasn't already just like, sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: It seems like a Reggie thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: My friend probably appreciates my friend Hans.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he died.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wait, so he's in jail now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't remember seeing construction, but making it unpacked them.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, he was going to use them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, smash them on the floor.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's one of those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, as an adult, I would be like, I would be mad at the kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, it's like what he did was like kind of insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely I'm like grabbing two kids and just screaming at them and saying that like it was nothing productive.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I remember him saying he's a he I think it was like you're lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't smash your faces in and it's just like just threats and screaming And I'm like in high even at the time I was like Okay, we deserved that but also that was kind of crazy.
[SPEAKER_06]: I did that sort of part for the course for a construction guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah Sort of like the best that they can do in that situation is
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like, we deserved it, but also as an adult, I can't even imagine just grabbing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's screaming.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would have to be like active, like you're like pulling them off of something.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, or dragging them back to the pile, then saying clean those things.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna eat, oh, yeah, you're gonna eat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The times that I see people like treat a kid like that is like if the kid is actually
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, you see some of those instances where it's like, you know, a cop or something is trying to deal with a bunch of kids and the kids are actively like punching him in the face and you're just like, okay, well, then they definitely, that's a different situation where it's like we're just walking through a parking lot and we're accused of smashing some tiles.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's like he is ultimately escalating it because it's like My friend told me I think if I remember now he's like oh, I almost swung at him and I was like Obviously, I would have been bad, but at the same time like that's what the guys creating that environment when you sneak up on kids and grab them It's not crazy that the kids gonna punch you
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I would.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, little vicious one in what you're scrapping with some kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like now you're fighting with some kids in a parking lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And guess what?
[SPEAKER_00]: You call the cops?
[SPEAKER_00]: You lose.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you get you win, you're a loser.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you lose, you're a meggle.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's actually that's case.
[SPEAKER_06]: There you go, Jeff, or a little bit.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're a scary scenario.
[SPEAKER_06]: You go to Jeff for a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you got your ass kicked by.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no good outcome of doing that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's all you always got to get like naked if someone's trying to fight you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody wants to get the ass kicked by a good guy.
[SPEAKER_07]: You got a pack of naked kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I remember the floor of the flies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not real to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this just the same Kevin will say what a Kevin get caught doing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I told the story before, but it was in seventh grade.
[SPEAKER_07]: I, I was like, brought superglue to school.
[SPEAKER_07]: And there was this kid I didn't like, and at lunch time, I superglue his zipper shot on his backpack.
[SPEAKER_07]: Good shit.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it was like under the table, I sneakily like pulled it towards me, just like unloaded the entire like tube of superglue on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Kevin's like sophisticated, like malicious child.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, this isn't, this is like advanced.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I can't know, that's like a typical prank, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Super glue.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, no, that's this is advanced.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: I wasn't smart enough to get away with it though.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_07]: You came up with it and you followed it through.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I read too much Calvin and Hobbes.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, that seems like, but it started smoking.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's the first time I see that.
[SPEAKER_07]: How many put on me a lot?
[SPEAKER_07]: It was probably like one of those, I don't know, like half ounce tubes, like not the tiny single use ones maybe a little bit bigger and like he instantly like, I don't know somehow knew it was me right away.
[SPEAKER_07]: It seemed like he was like, I think he was like maybe on the other side of the table or he was on like the, you know, table behind me.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's I think I saw it smoking and I tried to throw it back and then he like kind of saw that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I got in trouble for that one.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I got like, you know, detention.
[SPEAKER_07]: My parents came.
[SPEAKER_07]: We had to like buy him a new backpack seventh grade.
[SPEAKER_07]: So what?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: You are an asshole.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but I think he deserved it because I never.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: I just didn't.
[SPEAKER_07]: I can't remember.
[SPEAKER_07]: I just didn't.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was never a bully, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I just had people that I didn't get along with who are also probably like we bullied each other kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the worst thing I did in high school that I can think of right now is I don't know if I should just wait for like sending uh...
[SPEAKER_06]: sending a box like a fake sex store order to a classmate to neighbors house.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I remember that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That one.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was the fair.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was like, I think.
[SPEAKER_06]: But tell it again.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I, I, I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I was just, you know, getting into the, uh, Adobe, uh, sweet, you know, in high school, you like, they have all the stuff installed.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, if you're like learning Photoshop and all these things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you know, you want to exercise your skills and so how funny would it be to make it look like somebody order like a box of stuff from some sex store.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you ship it to the house right next to them.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so then the neighbor gets the package and then sees the name and then has to go deliver it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's like not discreetly labeled.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just like clearly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was like the condom deep.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you got that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, just, I like the idea of like the neighbor, I think, deliver this box.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I think that actually happened.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's so fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I, I like, it was really nice too.
[SPEAKER_06]: I say it's nice, like a kid could have, I could have done it to try to make it look like a legitimate pass.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you have to find that Photoshop file?
[SPEAKER_06]: So I do it, it might be on like some hard drive.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wait, how old were you?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like high school?
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe 10th graders.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: So whatever that is like 15, maybe 16.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they ended up like, they just like threw it away then everything opened and they just threw that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, I think I even put like Mr. Last name, too.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it could be like What then they open it if they had open it with the kids Oh, you're trying to get the class Oh, you're trying to get them in trouble, but just make like an awkward situation
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I did a good job.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, I also made a website in 7th grade, you know, when you could make this free website.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I think it was like geocity or weekly kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it was like, it had like a bunch of flash games on it.
[SPEAKER_07]: It had like funny pictures.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then I also put like this map.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was like a map of the world, but it was all labeled really wrong.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think it was labeled at the time, like, this is what George Bush thinks the world was going to get people to cite it for projects or something.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, so I retitled it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, this is what Mr. whatever are principal names.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's the world looks like.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then I also had a big red nuclear button on the page.
[SPEAKER_07]: It says, do not click this.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if you clicked on it, it went to a porn website.
[SPEAKER_07]: I remember which one to is 89.com really yeah and somehow the the school found out about it and they knew it was me I think says I don't I have no idea if I'm gonna go inside and go inside me yeah
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it was like my, yeah, my like username, I sent it to all my friends too.
[SPEAKER_07]: So someone sent school.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, something or their parent side, but yeah, like the school deputy pulled me aside, and I just remember her.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I really like your website, but it was this like, you know, like, um, Peggy from King of the Hell, kind of looks like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I still remember her, like in my face, like hard core pornography.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it was just like,
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I feel like I'm trying to think like the worst thing I probably was the bicycle like helping with the pulling the bolt off the nut off of the forks because even though like the the kind of deep up prank was just like weird right like it's just stupid.
[SPEAKER_06]: I can't imagine anything like that now, but it's not, it's not great, but it's not the worst thing ever, it's just like, what, I mean, it's funny if you're a kid, it's awesome if you're a kid.
[SPEAKER_04]: But now you do it too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, anybody who do it to now would just be like, we're like, I feel like when you're a kid, there's like no rules.
[SPEAKER_06]: You just, you're just like living your life and doing, you're like, you have a thought and then you think about, you know, for two seconds if it's a bad idea and if you can't.
[SPEAKER_06]: decided it's a bad idea, then you just do it and then later you realize it was a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I think you could still do it.
[SPEAKER_07]: You could like send that package too.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm Slavs.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was going to say Nile's lab.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_07]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why me?
[SPEAKER_06]: Who picks up your mail?
[SPEAKER_06]: Reggie.
[SPEAKER_06]: Reggie?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: It turns out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like when a package arrives at the office, who grabs it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're about to find out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it you?
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it ever you?
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yes, it's me every now and then without fail.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Nigel Megamasturbator
[SPEAKER_06]: Not gonna tell you when, though.
[SPEAKER_06]: You gotta just let this brew for like an eight months.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a lot of, uh, a lot of scheming going on.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't even see the outcome.
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's okay though.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you're about it, actually.
[SPEAKER_06]: I got a man on the inside.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know this dude Mark Grover Glitter bomb style, where this is the camera right in the side of the scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: John, where were we at?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that we've, I think, you know, we've, we've, we have, I think done a good enough job of this podcast that we can move on to the solar conversation now.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I just just get it out of your system.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just let's hear it.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I ordered this this part, the part, the communication board.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Talks between the batteries and the car.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, the batteries and the inverter.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I also bought a OBD2 Bluetooth adapter for like $7 on Amazon.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you know, they sold stuff that cheap on Amazon.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the an app is a car scanning app with car scanner for like $5 for like a permanent always with no ad And oh my god I don't know why I would ever buy an OBD2 reader that had a screen on it or like go to harbor freight because you can get with like $70 Oh, then you have to like decode it in the like instruction manual or something, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: This app
[SPEAKER_07]: gives you everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the coolest shit I've ever seen in my life.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you can look at any part of your car in real time.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it will display like the mass air flow sensor.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, if you ever like, you know, I mean, if you were trying to fix your car or something, but like what I bought it for is to try to read the battery information, but like I'm like, I hate I don't know, so like made me think of a thing that I have.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that is, I do not use the App Store.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do not use the Google Play Store.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do not use the Apple App Store.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do not buy App.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the last app that I bought or downloaded even was appropriate for like 10 bucks on my iPad.
[SPEAKER_06]: But like on my phone, I think I've paid for maybe in my life, like four apps.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, same same about that like nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't I literally like my phone does not run software.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like default apps or like big things.
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got you know just freaking car scanner of VPN like there's no games.
[SPEAKER_06]: No nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just utility apps like I don't yeah like not there is nothing
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, because it's so polluted, the app store is just, it's a cesspool.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a swamp.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I assume that everything is shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, it is shit.
[SPEAKER_07]: It 100%.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, it's toxic to me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Bro, I can't even download like a ruler.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: On my phone without it being vested with ads or like, I have to pay to unlock centimeters or something.
[SPEAKER_07]: The bullshit.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's how I feel like I, you know, I remember like maybe I was just really shitty at computers, not that I'm good at computers now.
[SPEAKER_06]: But like back in the day, you could find all sorts of free software that was mostly free.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like the rest case scenario, you would fuck your computer up and with a virus.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: And like all the free flash games on line.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like those websites are turbo cancer now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like in, that's how I feel about like going to the Google place, Google place for our app for is like you just look at it all and it feels like land of mine.
[SPEAKER_06]: So where it's like, I don't look at things and like, oh, that looks cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: I look at things like even when I type something in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: All the like sponsored posts above it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're like, I don't know which thing is like the thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which one's the thing?
[SPEAKER_05]: And like the, I feel like I'm trying to be tricked into downloading something else.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I know that if I don't download like the official app, like just, you know, it's basically like sorting by only downloading things with the most reviews and most downloads, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's like if you download an app, like if you search like the, like, we'll just do right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what you, I had this idea, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: apps have gotten worse, the place has gotten worse over time.
[SPEAKER_07]: If there was a way to sort by oldest, you would get real high quality apps.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not the trash that they have today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And like real games to play like on the plane kind of thing, like half of the games I download now meet an internet connection.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah to display.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have to say that many good examples now, but like like sometimes like this is a car scanner app was kind of like I maybe should search something that I'm not I don't have installed currently like you search for a thing would let's just say like How do you spell do lingo come this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I want to search for like a specific thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I search to lingo.
[SPEAKER_06]: There, the first result on Dolingo is battle, but like, yeah, this, this is what I hate about, I don't know if you can see this.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I need.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, when you search for something, literally the entire ecosystem is trying to get you to click on the wrong thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was driving the other day and I like typed in, I was like searching for food and I like selected food, and it's it routed me left and I was like, no, I'm definitely supposed to go right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where is this taking me?
[SPEAKER_05]: I clicked an ad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, yeah, you click food it quickly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, as it loads, it loads it and it popped under my thumb.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, yeah, this literally could have taken me to like the wrong side of town.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_05]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know their money.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't all that matter.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't like I do not download apps I do like my phone to me is basically like an advanced calculator and so this is like the first time in a while I just downloaded that the car scanner app but it made me think like if I went to Harbor Frey or Home Depot or some auto parts store out of the zone and bought one of those of which but we need to scan it's like the the shitty ones are like 40 50 bucks.
[SPEAKER_06]: The nice ones are like hundreds of dollars.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but for 13 bucks.
[SPEAKER_06]: So like the seven for the reader plus five for the app and the app is free.
[SPEAKER_06]: It just has ads and like limited features, but it was like, oh my god, I'm gonna pay for this a sec.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have something that's like orders of magnitude better.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like orders of night and that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: There are there's stuff on the on the play store that's, you know, worth it worth a few dollars, but it's hard to find number one.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just so reluctant.
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like I'm so reluctant to like I'd rather go to the store and buy like a thing that just works and will work forever.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like there's something about using your phone that I hate.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it feels like even if it's like better, it won't lie.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the Apple die or your phone, like you're stopping supported by it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you're going to have to go.
[SPEAKER_06]: But this like the stupid OBD2 reader that I've had that I bought at Harbor Freight years ago, like still work, even though it's kind of shitty.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: I did this with my land rover.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I had to get program on my computer and then run like a USB cable to the OBD2.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it would be nice to have it on the phone.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but then it just stops working eventually.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm saying it's like, there's something where like, I would, I, there's something in my brain that feels better about buying the physical thing that work, then to like buy something in the phone.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the phone app, it like actually makes everything so much like it, I just stay away.
[SPEAKER_06]: It feels toxic.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there aren't many useful phone apps.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, or if they are, they've been like, and should have fired.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what are you not, Joel?
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you hopping right now?
[SPEAKER_07]: I like on X, like hunt and off road, but I don't have that anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like even as like a generic app.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, what do you, like, what use anything?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just don't do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to have like, I really have the account if.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, but I feel like it doesn't count if it's like, you know, the Amazon app or something like tied to the utility.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because otherwise it's like, it just that that's just you're just trying to shop or buy something.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have way, Mo, is that count.
[SPEAKER_07]: Airtubble.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, you know what I have that I like.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's next space flight.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's powered by the National Science Foundation.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do they do?
[SPEAKER_07]: It just tells me when a rocket's going to launch, and it sends me a note of things like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's really high-oys new there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, here's a weird app I have, it's a tag info, it's a NFC reader.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have NFC tools.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's just like let's you read NFC.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's just a utility that like you access the hardware on your phone.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have Vesk tool actually see like all this right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: It says like download NFC tools download mine map or WhatsApp.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, like updates that I have that for some reason I have to do it manually.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, here's here's one light meter for doing digital for photography using the camera.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's good.
[SPEAKER_06]: Make mastercard as I count as an obscure app that I've gotten from the app store.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I use that app.
[SPEAKER_06]: Uber, I mean, that's really like I just don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't have bubble level.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good that I have.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't, yes, you need that.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the problem is you can't see where it is because when you when you level an ad shows.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you're you're like inviting like the dirty kid from Charlie Brown into your like freshly mopped house Is other ads on it
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there was one.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what iPhone has?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why the built-in?
[SPEAKER_05]: Why the fuck is that not just like a free thing that some some dude made in like 30 minutes?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why is everything hyper monetized for these like little utilities?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like every time I 3D model some shit, I like put it online.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I have like a I made a chicken feeder that I uploaded to printables.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm just like.
[SPEAKER_06]: I like spent time doing this.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just putting it out there.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to never going to try to sell this shit.
[SPEAKER_07]: See, it has a measuring app, too.
[SPEAKER_07]: So let's see if I can measure the screen.
[SPEAKER_07]: So start there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Is this iPhone or you downloaded this?
[SPEAKER_07]: iPhone.
[SPEAKER_07]: Does 14 inches.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's good for like bigger things, but it's not good for something up close.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it probably is really good at medium-sized things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it breaks on big things, but whatever is in the plight or range.
[SPEAKER_06]: But like what I, what I, my plan is like I wanted to actually can do this after the podcast, I want to see if we can read the sell voltage in either one of the Tesla's either Chelsea's probably yours is the only one here right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: So basically plug the OBT2 in the reader, the Bluetooth reader, and then you can like read the health of the battery.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm assuming.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you can use that like if you're looking for, we can't Sandra's going to run club.
[SPEAKER_06]: Ah, no, don't take the motor home.
[SPEAKER_06]: Damn it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: because then you like you can tell if the battery is healthier not before like buying a total one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just ripped the battery out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you see, otherwise you have to like rip the battery on connect to it to measure it, but you can just like I'm assuming you can just like plug the OBD2 and read the state of like any EV battery and then use it for your solar system.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, speaking of batteries and motors and stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was at this guy's lab last night and he was telling me we were telling, I was telling him about like we're going big on solar right now and he's like, oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: It ended up just talking he used to work for zero motor cycles and he said that those motors that come from those motor cycles would go perfect in its hailer done.
[SPEAKER_07]: And they go up to like 120 for the sport model.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, and they're very smart.
[SPEAKER_07]: He says they're like the size of a can of paint.
[SPEAKER_05]: 57 kilo watts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep, that's like, that's like, I'm 10 of the power of like a high performance Tesla.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, it would buggy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, those motorcycles were pretty fast and how much do they weigh like a 20th of a Tesla.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's like probably double the power density.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the only thing that was holding those motorcycles back was the batteries.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, the bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was thinking the Taylor done even.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's got the the lead time or lifetime 36 volt battery in it that I think could probably pump out like 800 amps for like.
[SPEAKER_06]: As back in or two, I'm assuming the current drop drops pretty quickly when they're accelerating, but like 800 amps times 36 volts, how many I'm only watching that give us, I'm good, three times, you do it, three.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where the hell did my phone go?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I would say like, eight, what I say, eight.
[SPEAKER_05]: 800 amps.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love, I love kilowatts for like four thousand and four.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean 30 kilowatt.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was off by a factor.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you could get 30 kilowatt outside of that battery for about one second before it got really pissed off and told you and it shut itself up.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: So if your motor will even bra that.
[SPEAKER_06]: but the normal one won't.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, it won't.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was researching motors a while ago because I don't know if he actually knows how motors works.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's fucking magic.
[SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever looked into like the induction motors where it's like the stator and rotor are like, you get four wires, which is the Taylor Don motor is, which I was trying to figure what the buck is going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, what is this?
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I watched this video.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was like a Russian professor and I am more confused.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like because you could like normal motors.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think they tied they tied the two together.
[SPEAKER_06]: Learned series.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so the rotor and stator are like.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't overpower one of the other, but you can, like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I like, I actually, yeah, I don't know how to describe what happens, because it's not straight lines.
[SPEAKER_07]: The, the, the, the coils act like magnets that repel each other.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they switch in a way, yeah, but you can control, if you control the current separately between them, you can, like,
[SPEAKER_06]: You can do things that don't like what kind of thing I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember what happens, but like if you, there's like a whole like college class kind of style set up, like a lab set up.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can control like the current.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like a very act.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like two very acts.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe it was like three.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like total power.
[SPEAKER_06]: rotor power, stator power, and when you would change, when you would change toll power, like obviously, it's what happens is it's like scales, linearly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but when you would change the rotor and stator power, like it would, it would just like, it would, it would fucking do things and it would be like, like, I current low speed kind of like, okay, I mean, you can do that with, there's a ton of really complicated motor control algorithms.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I remember being very confused.
[SPEAKER_06]: I watched like a couple of videos and I was like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't need to know how this works.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't really need to really understand it and that's okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes you got to take that out and keep doing what you're good at.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you don't need to solve a problem right now, you can just take for granted that it works and assume that someone else got, you know, they got paid to like figure this out.
[SPEAKER_06]: We could figure anything this out, but we've just had to spend all of our time doing it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't want to.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'd rather just do the thing like make the tailor done go fast.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not, I don't have to write the software.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so if the tail is done right now, I think the best case scenario is like, like some people get as much joy writing the software to control a motor as somebody taking that motor and putting it into a Taylor dot.
[SPEAKER_06]: That I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think right now, if that, if the super motor chart, which we don't know how to read on the motor is right, if it's 300 amps peak, like maximum current draw at low RPMs, is that right?
[SPEAKER_06]: It seems maybe, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then when it gets hot, yeah, the motor chart and somebody can tell us if we're well, it has to do with like, I don't know, there's like a super big load on the motor like it's not moving.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's like the coils are always on a shorting.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, that's definitely what it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think that yeah, I think this might also have to do with the this thing that the yes, the like the front through each coil.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah,
[SPEAKER_06]: So you can, yeah, I know it, anyways.
[SPEAKER_07]: I like three wire motors better.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's easier.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Taylor-Done Peak draw might be like 10 kilowatt.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: The 15, which is like, only horsepower is that?
[SPEAKER_06]: What's the horsepower?
[SPEAKER_06]: 750 watts?
[SPEAKER_06]: Is that right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I just say, I say a thousand, but I think it is 75.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and so like 10 horsepower, that seems too much.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the Taylor-Done's actually drawing almost nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that it might be like four horsepower.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think because it's geared down a lot, uh, you don't really notice how much power it has, but it never slows down.
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
[SPEAKER_07]: Except when it goes up a really steep hill.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like, yeah, with a bunch of big, big boys on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I think that, uh, I've, I'm imagining like 57 bill a lot in that table of done.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think that you actually could probably not use too much of the existing drivetrain if you put that in there.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you mean you could use the differential.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, definitely the differential.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't think you could use the drive well, or chain or chain.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's a chain.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe you could know it would do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would definitely destroy the chain.
[SPEAKER_07]: Get a bigger chain.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's easy.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's simple.
[SPEAKER_06]: Actually, I think that it's fused at the ground.
[SPEAKER_06]: because the wheels couldn't actually deliver enough.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: To break the chain.
[SPEAKER_06]: I bet you could not break the chain using the wheels, which means that the 57 horsepower will actually never, you'll never propagate it to the ground.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you won't have this problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: 57 kilowatt.
[SPEAKER_07]: Unless once you start getting up it up to really high speeds.
[SPEAKER_07]: What is 57 kilowatt's the worst?
[SPEAKER_07]: Or a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: 57 kilowatt's the horsepower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me do the math.
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me a second, give me a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: 75.
[SPEAKER_00]: Five.
[SPEAKER_07]: Is it really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Five horsepower in the tail.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it actually 75?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you guess?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you sure?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like exactly that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: 76.4.
[SPEAKER_06]: Did he say where does he have any of them?
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, nobody said that you can usually get them for about $1,000.
[SPEAKER_07]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's fresh.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now all of a sudden out of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have what would just the motive.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me check eBay right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: And when he says it fits like physically fits or like the mechanics are like pretty easy.
[SPEAKER_07]: The mechanics are pretty easy.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're small.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can mount them in any orientation because they're air cooled.
[SPEAKER_07]: Air cooled?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: What?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: With fans?
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it has like an impeller on the motor that sucks air in.
[SPEAKER_07]: When it runs, that's wizard stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wizard magic.
[SPEAKER_07]: Actually, air cooling of 57 kilowatt motor.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: With just a fan on it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think because it's like, it spins really fast, but it's geared down.
[SPEAKER_06]: So let me see a zero motor cycle motor This is like the problem with this stuff is it's like it's all fun and you realize like the individual components Start adding it because even like a controller to deliver 57 Oh, like guys, he doesn't you almost want the whole motorcycle probably for the batteries and the controller and the motor Dude you wouldn't even believe that this is actually a It looks like a prank.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like the size of the dudes booze.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like the size of my e-bike motor
[SPEAKER_06]: 1500 bucks.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll controller.
[SPEAKER_06]: That controller and motor.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, but that's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it just a brushless motor?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Holy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's not, it just has been on it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not even an input.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you have to put a blower on it?
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that there's, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: It must have to do with what, when it's driving, there's air being forced over it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm.
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